Jack - Trump's Tax Nightmare (feat. Greg Proops)

Episode Date: April 8, 2019

S3E14 - Joining us this week is Greg Proops from The Smartest Man in the World Podcast! Plus, Jordan has a story about the inaugural, Jaleesa has an update on a Saudi reactor, and AG will be talking about everything Barr, Mueller, and the grand jury. Enjoy! 

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Seriously, I had such a good time at those shows. They were fantastic. That was incredible probably the best time of my life Yeah, nice. Yeah, it was amazing to first off get to put faces to names on Twitter and Facebook and the people we interact with and emails and everything and Yeah, it was just incredible to be there with everyone that's like the venue said we have the nicest most compassionate Audience and you could feel it and everyone is just a joy to talk to and it was it was so fun So thank you so much for coming out. Yeah, they did both venues. I've been doing this for 14 years, and your audience is clearly the premium audience. Everyone was generous. Most generous audience, they said, yeah, just all around amazing. Smartest audience. The best people, literally.

Yes. And the best people. We did. We brought the best people. We did. We found them for reals though like we actually did So again, that was just so much fun. Thank you guys and if you have an experience a live show We recommend it April 18th, Largo miniapolis Parkway theater on June 14th That'll be fun and then we're working on adding some more cities We're looking at coming to what San Francisco Denver, Portland, Seattle, Chicago that come into what San Francisco, Denver, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, somewhere in the South.

We have to find like one centralized location in the South to hit. Maybe we can do a Twitter poll or something. Yeah. That's a good idea, Joe. Because you mentioned Memphis and Nashville, or New Orleans, or Atlanta. Yeah. Atlanta would be big.

Yeah, Atlanta would be labeled too. Yeah. Austin, more West. Definitely. And Jerry Liberal, for sure. Yeah, I mean, it would be labeled too. Yeah, yeah, a little more west definitely and very liberal for sure. Sorry, Austin. Well, also would be a fun one to go to too. But I haven't, I haven't seen how far they are on our list of how many cities could be like four people. Yeah, we're saying Twitter poll. Yeah. Yeah, we feel like people in the South would really come out,

maybe in a higher rate than people in other cities that might have more numbers too, because it's like, save me. Yeah, that's true. That's safe space. Yeah. But in the big cities, I mean, all usually the big cities are pretty blue. Yeah, that's very true. Pretty blue.

That's very true. Maybe if we went to like Athens. Yeah, like at the home, R.E.M., that'd be badass. Ooh, a little Georgia. They're probably liberal there, huh? Because that's like a college town. There's super liberal there. Yeah, they're very awesome be badass. Oh, and a little Georgia. They're probably liberal there, huh? Because that's a good college town. They're super liberal there.

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Joining us today for the interview from the smartest man in the world podcast and whose line is it anyway on the CW is Mr. Greg Proops. He will also be joining us live at the Largo in Los Angeles April 18th, along with Elizabeth Kronais McLaughlin from the Resistance Live show. I love her. She'll be on the panel. Proops will be the interview. It'll be fantastic.

We'll be talking today about the public backlash against the bar letter and the response from the Department of Justice. Jordan has a story about the inaugural. That's new and Jalisa has an update on a Saudi reactor, a nuclear reactor in Saudi Arabia. I'll be talking everything bar and molar in the grand jury. We have a lot of molar news to get to, but before we jump in let's check out my new favorite segment, Corrections. It's time to stay, it's time for me to say I'm sorry. Oh, I made a mistake. Oh.

Okay, so this week I had the honor, distinct honor, of being blocked by Kendall Anion on Twitter. He had tweeted back on March 24th that the Mueller report had completely exonerated Trump. There was no collusion, no obstruction, no coordination, blah, blah, blah. And I retweeted him recently for overreacting and he immediately blocked me and apparently many others. So because everyone was retweeting it and everybody who did got blocked. And he refuses to correct the record. Apparently he doesn't have a corrections segment. So today's corrections are brought to you by Kendelanian.

That's beautiful. Thank you. It's in his honor. It appears that because Mueller, she wrote, did not freak out about the bar memo. We did a little, but we didn't flip the fuck out Kendelanian style. We don't have too many corrections this week. First, we were wondering why the employees of Deutsche Bank, Deutsche Wantalone, would knowingly give loans to unqualified orange morons. But apparently, loans count, and I knew this, but I hadn't put these two together.

Loans count as assets on a bank's balance sheet because of the interest paid. And most banks have a commission structure to pay out high performers with regards to loan origination or orange nation. That's Trump would say. How do you loan an orange Nate? Don't you want a loan?

So that makes sense because the more loans they sell, the more performance awards they get. That's that whole Wells Fargo thing that they had to go and answer to Congress too was because they were adding all these products to people who that you account they didn't sign up for so that they could make their quote unquote quotas. Yeah, I won one of those little chunk of that settlement like $14 I think or something. Yeah, how nice of them. Yeah, 14 bucks back to the people. All right. And meanwhile all their CEOs are walking free. Totally okay with me not. Totally okay with me, not. I just said not.

Like it's, like it's 19 or 19 or 19. And that's character. As F. So not. El. So let's see, another correction here. On Tuesday's daily update for patrons, we discussed the phenomenon of something that's legal,

but still totally shitty. Like perhaps the collusion outlined in the full molar report that didn't rise to the level of criminality beyond a reasonable doubt perhaps. And one of our patrons, so she's heard this term before on another podcast and they call it lawful but awful. And I like that. I like that too. That's like pretty much how Trump lives his life. Totally blameless. Like Man of Fort. Blameless and shameless. Lothal but awful.

But also unlawful. Yeah, blameless and shameless. That's pretty great. Also, I was trying to remember the name of the papers that Mike Gravel read into the record back during the Watergate years. I knew it began with a pee. I was like, what is it?

It was the Pentagon papers. And I can't believe I a pee. I was like, what is it? It was the Pentagon Papers, and I can't believe I forgot that. I'm like, it's not Panama. We just had those Pentagon Papers. You're human, hey. We were having that discussion, but thank you. Thank you for that. We were having that discussion because we were hoping that someone from a House committee

would read the full Mueller report and the underlying evidence into the public record as well. But given that it's almost 400 pages and that doesn't include the underlying evidence, that could take a minute. So, once it comes out though, we're going to make an audio book pod. We're going to read the whole report. We're going to use that Charlie Brown sound when adults are talking for redactions until it gets annoying probably.

So we'll read that. And we'll also be reacting in real time. I think that that has to be that way because I won't be able to get through some of these passages without being like, what the fuck bro? And so they'll probably be, it'll be a mystery science theater 3000-esque podcast. You can't see the Mueller report on a movie screen, but we'll be reading through it. It'll be a series. So that way, you don't have to read the whole thing yourself, though, I know you guys, and you will definitely read the thing yourselves. You

guys are honest. Yeah. Otherwise, the corrections portion of this show would not exist. Finally, my biggest error, and I have to admit this, was trusting bar at all. It's more than clear Trump is leaning on him to protect him from quote, embarrassing information, unquote, and the report, Mueller report, getting out to the public. Today, even Trump tweeted that he hasn't seen the report, but if history is any indicator, that means he has, because he, whatever he has done, he says he hasn't, whatever he hasn't done, that means he has, because he, whatever he has done, he says he hasn't, whatever he hasn't done, he says he has.

You can usually expect the opposite to be true from whatever he tweets. And if he hasn't, by chance, he sure was cavalier about exonerating himself from any wrong doing before ever having seen it. Lots of folks tried to warn me about bar, the ladies at Gaslit Nation, for example. I think I was maybe just a little too optimistic, a little too just to see I'd. Sorry about that, Justice Porn. Because as the weeks have gone on, it is obvious now that Barr isn't the up and up guy. I was giving him the benefit of a doubt to be.

Yeah, and also maybe sort of mischaracterizing his relationship with Moller a bit as if that means anything definitively that their buddies. Yeah, I wonder how Moller feels about all this and Andre, I mentioned that backstage of the show, she's like, they were buddies, you know, like, how do you think Moller feels? Because maybe Moller feels like we feel a little weirdly betrayed. We're gonna do that a little bit because there are some staff now on Mueller's team that are for the first time in two years saying something. Yeah. And I don't know if there's a way to call him out legally bar, that is, on this particular obstruction of justice, which is what I think it is, but I hope that Congress is able to

get to the report. That's really the important thing in the end here. The grand jury met Friday for the first time since Stone was indicted. I guess that's considered robustly continuing. And seemingly I haven't learned my lesson about optimism, but I'm hoping, can you please some more justice porn on you, that they were also pretty upset about bars characterization of the Mueller report. And maybe they petitioned the court to have their findings released

to the House Judiciary Committee. They have to know they can because that's how Jaworsky got his roadmap report to the House Judiciary under Judge Sikara during Watergate. That would be the best case scenario for me right now, but I also, please, I don't wanna get your hopes up just to be dashed.

I mean, somebody has to be hopeful. Yeah, even if we get knocked down, I think it's important to be hopeful. That's what Obama taught us. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a stuck guy. Hope then change. Then tears and wine. Then Trump, I guess. Yeah, exactly. Hope then change. Then reversing everything you work so hard to do. We laugh so we don't cry. That's precisely it. All right, guys, those are corrections. So it's time now to move on to the news with just the facts. All right, guys, let's kick this off with a tiny story from last Sunday about Jeff Bezos.

He's the Zillionaire owner of Amazon and Washington Post. And as you probably know, a while back, he dropped an op-ed in Medium, saying that he was being blackmailed by the inquirer and its parent company, American Media Inc. or AMI. The publication had gotten a hold of some naughty texts that he sent to his mistress Lauren Sanchez. Her brother Michael, a friend and associate of folks like Roger Stone, sold those texts apparently to the inquire for $200,000. However, in the op-ed, Bezos said that he thought the Saudis were involved somehow, and that really stuck out to us.

The Saudis obviously hate Bezos because of his affiliation with the Washington Post as owner affiliation, like he's just sort of a Jason to be honest. And as we know, Jamal Kashoggi worked for the Washington Post. And we know the Saudis were in bed with Trump and the inquirers. The magazine published a whole issue about how amazing the new crown princes in Saudi Arabia and how great the new Middle East is because of Saudi Arabia. So the inquirer lawyers sent a letter to Bezos saying that if he didn't publicly come forward and say that the inquirer and AMI were not politically motivated, they would publish

all the dirty pictures. Well, Bezos wasn't having it. So he published a story about being blackmailed. He's like, fuck it. He blew it up and he did that in medium and told AMI to go fuck themselves, basically. My new favorite phrase, moral law go fuck yourself. This is of course compounded by the fact that AMI blackmailed Bezos a month after they signed a non-prosacutorial agreement with the Feds in the Hush Money Catch-In Kill scandal, in which they promised they wouldn't keep priming. So I'm waiting for AMI, Pecker, Pecker, Dylan Howard in the Inquiry to Face Legal Consequences for Shitting on their Non-Prossecution Agreement. But just this last weekend, Bezos a security specialist named Gavin DeBecker.

He's a dude without standing credentials. He's come forward saying with high confidence that the Saudis had actually infiltrated Bezos' phone with the specific intent of harming him. In fact, AMI demanded Bezos deny finding evidence of hacking in their investigation, and insists there is no involvement by any third party, claiming the leaks came from a single source, Michael Sanchez. Saudi Arabia is, of course, denying any involvement with the matter. That's how they do.

I'm sure Trump will be like, well, he denied it. He denied it. Well, he'd be. He denied it. What can be posted for any further investigations on the matter? Say it was just the brother. How would he even have gotten those photos? He literally broken in his sister's phone and took them. I think they got them from the Saudis and then he sold them. Right. Yeah. It seems.

And then presumably maybe the Saudis got a, they don't need his money. I was going to say actually maybe they got a cut of the $200,000, but they probably don't even care. They probably said, they just wanted the blackmail part. Yeah, and they probably said, you keep the whole thing, just you get it so that you look like the, you know, that plausible deniability thing.

Yeah. Yeah, and I'm wondering if that $200,000 payment was made in cash. Yeah, I guess it'd be cheaper than it'd take any that money. It'd be like taking someone out for dinner for their birthday and being like, so you want to split it? I'm going to go Dutch. Also this week was the huge story about the security clearance whistleblower named Trisha

Newbold, who has told a House Committee that Trump officials granted clearances for 25 individuals that specialists had denied, citing multiple issues including foreign influence, conflicts of interest, concerning personal conduct, financial problems, drug use, and criminal conduct. So when I thought I might not be able to run for office, it looks like I can. It was proven later in the week that one of the individuals is definitely Jared Kushner. Others include Rob Porter, Half-Man, Half-Mustache, John Bolton. proven later in the week that one of the individuals is definitely Jared Kushner. Others include Rob Porter, Half-Man, Half-Mustache, John Bolton, as you refer to him, J�.

And Ivanka. We don't know for what specific reasons each individual was denied clearance. And Monday, Elijah Cummings wrote a letter to the White House Council Pat Sipalone, demanding documents regarding the matter and that he was prepared to issue Sipalone, Sipalone, demanding documents regarding the matter and that he was prepared to issue Sipinas. Republicans in the oversight committee wrote their own letter, accusing the Dums of cherry-picking, new bolds testimony, and even said at one point, quote, there were only very serious security concerns with like four or five individuals.

So apparently the Republicans are cool with four or five people with very serious security concerns in the White House. And the newsstandard for them. Apparently the Republicans are cool with four or five people with very serious security concerns in the White House. The new standard for them. And then on Tuesday, the House oversight committee voted to issue a subpoena for Carl Klein. He is the supervisor who ignored the recommendations from the investigators and granted the security clearances for 25 people despite their applications. All the warnings, FBI, CIA, all the security specialists being like, no dude, no. And so he was like, don't touch these files.

Leave them alone. I think he suspended her without paid for two weeks for something stupid, like downloading or uploading attachments into emails in individual PDF files instead of grouping them all into one PDF file or something like that. Whatever. Okay, do you guys remember a little Jacob, Jacob Wol?

Oh, of course. Yeah, he's the 22 year old that's been banned from training securities, who tried to accuse Mueller of sexual misconduct. Well, the law and crime blog told us Tuesday that the FBI appears to have an active criminal investigation into Wall's fake company called Surefire Intelligence. It's fucking intelligent. A journalist from the Young Turks apparently submitted a FOIA request, a freedom of information act request for information related to Surefire intelligence, but the FBI refused stating a criminal probe is open and ongoing, so we can't give it to you right now.

As we reported in late 2018, wool and Jack Berkman held a really weird press conference promising that Mueller's accuser was going to come forward and tell her story, but she never showed up. And apparently, Jordan, you talked about this in the daily episodes, she had hired him to investigate someone and he took her money and did no work. Like paid him $2,000 or something like that. Yeah, and tried to get her to then work for him right after that.

Right, and then, hey, do me a favor. Yeah, fuck you. Then we had the thing where Avonotti was arrested for domestic violence, but authorities never charged him and Avonotti blamed Wall for that. And there was a time Jacob traveled to Minnesota to be a dick to Ilhan Omar, and he faked death threats against himself

and then filed a false police report about it. Yeah, he's a jessie's small and in politics. Surefire intelligence was Wol's fake investigative company that he created a LinkedIn profile for using photos of celebrities and his mom's phone number. Say how do your mom call me? We had put some beans on the FBI charging him with crimes, so I hope those beans come true. Yeah, so do I, that guy, such a...

What a life he's lived already. He's one of his peers old. I think he's the definition of an ass hat, right? Like, that's a young Roger Stone. Yeah, a little pebble. A little Roger Stone. He's one of those punchable faces, like a Marker's Chelly and Spencer. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, he's the worst one. You just want to punch him in the face. Like, why? Why are we coming live for it now, Iggy? Yeah, like... Ted Cruz. Mm-hmm. Just, why be a professional troll when you can do anything else? Same. Why? Why waste your life for it now, Iggy? You're, yeah, like, Ted Cruz. Just why be a professional troll when you can do anything else? Same.

Because also, I don't think they believe they can do anything else. Yeah, something happened there. They feel so worthless. They need to do something so ridiculous to get attention or something. Well, then I take great comfort in the fact that he feels worthless. Well, I want to find out what his second hobby is.

I want to see him invest in that. Like, what if he likes to, you know, knit or something? Like, just anything else. Invest your energy in something else. He knits little spooge cozy's for himself to jack off into. Yeah, do that. Do that.

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Splooge cozy. Splooge cozy. Splooge cozy. For today, only if you pay another 599, we'll throw some Roger Stones in that speech cozy. Yes, we have all different kinds. There's the Brittany and the JLo and the, you know. This got real.

They all have names. Yeah. I mean, hey, make an essay. It's 2019, do what you want. Can I trademark this verbally? So if he tries to seal this idea, we can sue him. Yes, go ahead. Is that how contracts work?

I think he probably can't say it. He probably come right back at your stand. Uh, I already got a trademark on it three years ago. Check it out. Boots cozy. His hand knitted. He is brilliant. Yeah. All right, guys, we'll be right back at your stand. I already got a trademark on it three years ago. Check it out. Damn it. Boots cozy is hand-knitted. He is brilliant. Alright guys, we'll be right back. Hey Mueller junkies, everyone knows that sticking to a weight loss plan can be hard.

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Internal Revenue Service for six years of President Trump's Trumps. President Trump's personal and business tax returns both. And we reported a couple weeks ago that the Finance Committee was mulling over expanding their tax requests to include his business. I don't know if that committee officially requested his personal returns also, or if they handed this off to ways and means because maybe ways and means has a stronger legislative case to request both personal and business returns.

So it sounds to me, and I'll put beans on this, that they were like, hmm, we should expand this over in the where were they. They were in the house initially, I think it was the house finance committee. And so then they were like, oh, maybe we can get both. And so they started talking to ways and means and they came up with this plan. So this is their plan now. According to the law, if requested by House ways and means, the Treasury via the IRS shall release the returns to them for any return that they ask for, provided it's relevant to the work of the Congress. And that's

shall is important. It's not may or might, or if you feel like it, or if the president's not embarrassed. The argument they're making here is that it's the duty of the committee to evaluate the operation of the IRS in its administration and enforcement of the tax laws. Quote, the IRS has a policy of auditing the tax returns of all sitting presidents and vice presidents,

yet little is known about the effectiveness of this program. Unquote, basically, they're saying that in order to determine if the IRS is doing its job, they need to see Trump's tax returns and determine whether congressional action may be needed to require such audits and oversee that they are conducted properly. That's a pretty strong case to make,

evaluating the effectiveness of a law that's on the books that you don't have any information about. So I think it's a strong case, but Friday, Trump's lawyers wrote a letter to the Treasury arguing that by demanding the returns, Congress is violating Trump's first amendment rights. Quote, the first amendment prohibits the government from harassing political opponents and retaliating against disfavored speech, which is true. I remember learning that one of the articles from Peach Met for Nixon was that he abused his power by asking the IRS to audit Democrats running for, I think it was Congress, his political opponents. The difference here is that the Ways and Means Committee is making a really good argument

that part of their job to provide oversight, they can't do that if they don't get these tax returns. They can't determine if the IRS is effective in its don't get these tax returns. They can't determine if the IRS is effective and its audits without seeing his returns. So they need the returns to potentially develop legislation to ensure that the oversight process is functional. It's so funny how they're just both using like bullshit reasons basically.

Yeah, but the Treasury has never turned down that request in the history of like all president. So it would be so weird for them to be like all of a sudden This is harassment. Yeah, it was some Trump supporter on Twitter was like this is unprecedented It's his right to not have to turn over stack his name one president that they've done this too And I'm like I can't because they've all released their tax returns voluntarily. Yeah, I fucking weirdo At least since Nixon I think Ford't, but he released a summary of really long summary. Right. But the treasury itself, the department has never like denied

our request to comply with the law. No. Correct. So this would be really unprecedented in that area. Yeah, I would. AIDS close to Trump have said he's going to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court. Uh, this is a hill and people are willing to die on it. Is what they said. Yeah, that's not the phrase. The phrase is, this is a hill we're willing to die on. Not this is a hill and people and people will die. Well, they're making sure you know that they're not going to die on the hill. They're going to have a fall guy. Taxes are a hill. Anyway, I think this is the delay tactic to hopefully push the release of his taxes past the 2020 election. And it seems that a few months ago, Trump had pushed to install a hand-picked chief of

council, or excuse me, chief council for the Internal Revenue Service. New York Times reported Thursday that Trump asked Turtle Dick Mitch McConnell to prioritize a confirmation vote for Michael Desmond to take the post at the IRS, indicating it was a higher priority than the nomination of attorney general bar. This tax battle comes on the heels of another request for his taxes as reported Wednesday in raw story. Elijah Cummings of the House Oversight and Reform Committee launched a probe into Trump's finances.

And in response, Mazar's tax and accounting firm said they're ready to turn over 10 years of Trump's tax returns. They just need a subpoena to formalize the request. They called it a friendly subpoena. Hey girl, you up. Subpoena and chill. So Cummings has told reporters that Mazar's asked for the subpoena and he will provide it. So it appears the Dums are coming at Trump's taxes from multiple fronts and we will keep

you posted. Let's see here, the Guardian reported this week that the Saudis are almost done with the construction of their first nuclear reactor and Jelisa will have details. Yes, gross. Super gross. Then some weird shit went down with Cohen this week, like normal.

First, we got this statement from his mob lawyer, Lanny Davis, quote, Mr. Cohen was only recently able to access a hard drive with important documents. Said Drive contains over 14 million files which consist of emails, voice recordings, images, and attachments for Mr. Cohen's computers and phones. Mr. Cohen has only had time to go through less than 1% of the drive, or about 3,500 files. Mr. Cohen needs time and resources and assistance

to separate out privileged and personal documents from these 14 million files to make the rest available for review by various congressional committees that have sought his help." So according to various new sources, Cohen only recently gained access to a tranche of documents seized in the FBI raid last April.

But the FBI, but if the FBI, I don't, this is weird because if the FBI has them, can't they just give them to Congress? I mean, I suppose Cohen wants the ability to go through them and cherry pick what he sends to Congress. That's what it sounds like. But why? Why have that privilege? And exactly why?

Because if the FBI has them all, and they didn't charge them with anything additionally, it's not like they can send this over to Congress all of it, and Congress will come up with new crimes that the FBI didn't find and refer them back. I think he's just pushing his luck. He's just trying to stay out of jail. And how do we know Cohen would even turn over

all the relevant material? Why does he get to pick? Yeah, I'm sure he would hide the things that would further incriminate him. He's not a total idiot. Yeah, but like I said, the FBI had it all. They wouldn't incriminate him. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

So what is he even going to separate? What confidential, just embarrassing things for him? I don't know, but yeah, because it could leak out of the Congress more than it would leak out of the Southern District. Yeah. But Cohen's lawyers said they'd,'d quote located several documents that would have significant value. But of course, he would need time before he goes to jail to sort through everything.

That's the key. That's the very, yes. He's like, yeah, I got all the stuff back that y'all already know about. Yeah. I need time to go through it. I hope they're like, I feel like jail would be the perfect time for you to do that. Oh, yeah. What you get in my lamp, you know, what more do you need? Lots of free yeah. Yeah, get him a lamp. You know, one more to you need.

Lots of free time. Yeah. If you're not looking at papers, you're looking at walls. Yeah. It would be so funny. I'm Mr. Com. We determined with the amount of material here, it would take you about three years to go through it.

So bye. That's just perfect. I read a copy of this letter that Cohen's lawyer wrote, Lanny Davis, I didn't see any mention in there that Cohen only recently gained access to the files because he got them back from the FBI after the raid. So either the FBI has it all, like I said, and just gave it back to him,

or maybe Cohen withheld these files the whole time because he wasn't in a formal cooperation agreement and not required to hand over everything. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe he has something in there that they don't actually have and he's trying to hide it. Maybe that means though that the FBI didn't find them during their reign. Right.

So he would have to have been hiding them but like, I don't think that's likely. Under the cushion, when his butt, it's the butt drive. 14 million fouls in his butt. That's me at that, anywhere, be song. But put a light in your butt, I said, make it right in your butt, put everything in your butt, said, make it right in your butt, put everything in your butt. Nice.

Make it sing in your butt, you remember? No, I just know it, but I love it. Eddie Murphy in the butt drive. Apparently though, Lanny Davis told Buzzfeed News that Cohen didn't have these documents during his closed door testimony recently because they had been seized by prosecutors and he didn't get them back until last week. So either he's lying, which would be really stupid, or they weren't as but. I've heard from some people that it is actually a mob tactic to withhold some evidence until

right before you go to jail to delay entry, but I'm not sure. Yeah, that makes sense. It just really does seem so shortsighted. No one's going to be like, thanks for this, buddy. No issues with the timing at all. That's all forgiven. I would just be like, we'll get it from the FBI, man. It's cool. You don't have to settle down.

Go with jail. I doubt it was in his butt. Yeah, no, I don't think it's hard. Metaporglian literally. That's funny. It's a lot of files for the butt. It is. Well, they compress it so much, you see, is modern technology.

Yeah, I don't know if our technology allows for so much compression that you could fit 14,000, 14 million files in your butt. I also feel like if they were files that the FBI hasn't seen yet because he had them in his butt, that part of the story would have leaked. And then that would have been the headline. Yeah, this is crazy. But leaks.

Okay, right? Right? Yeah, no, I agree with you. agree with you yeah I just never grew up me neither that's why I need validation constantly right right guys right yes right right right hey oh my gosh I coughed at 37 38 but if you can't take it out don't worry I love you guys um ignore uh let's see here along with this letter this letter that he wrote Lanny Davis there's a 12-page memo, the outlined evidence of a conspiracy to collude

with the Russian election interference on behalf of Trump in 2016. The memo says, again, that Trump instructed Cohen to lie and say all Moscow Tower project contacts ended as of January 31, 2016 using code language. And nay, discussions day, upta our tray in us go me. That's good.

wink wink. I don't even think Trump can comprehend pig Latin. Is that the code used? Morse code. Neat, neat, neat, neat, neat. I learned from monster zinc. I don't know if he's seen that one. Oh, I've learned that one as a kid. But yeah, yeah, yeah, been around for a while. code. Ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne-ne- his false testimony about Trump tower Moscow to Congress, a Trump lawyer called him up and congratulated him on his testimony saying his client was happy with Cohen's testimony.

Client probably Trump. The memo makes new claims, apparently, about Trump taking a much more active role in the Moscow project than previously reported. Quote in May 2016, Cohen told Trump he could travel to Russia to assist the building of the project before or after the GOP convention in August and Trump agreed. And I just picture him out there with a hammer and a hard hat. Like, I'm ready to go, guys. What do you need? Help you build it.

This proves then that Trump knew the Russian contacts continued past January 31st, despite his coded language. The memo also implicates Ivanka, stating she knew Cohen lied to Congress and they had communicated about her health spa at the top of Moscow Trump Tower. We already knew this though. We saw those emails that were released. We reported on a little while ago where Abby Loll was saying, you know, keep her out of your mouth when you're talking about Trump Tower. Even before then, we talked about the spa like months ago. Yep, yep.

And Lanny Davis closed by saying, quote, for him to surrender to jail in 30 days would be a detriment to committee search for the truth as well as a miscarriage of justice. Wow, English major much. Also just hand over the files and they'll look through them. Yeah, so dramatic.

No, but a criminal not going to jail is a miscarriage of justice, you guys. That's just some spin shit, if I ever heard it. It totally is. And finally, this week, guys, we learned from the guardian that the Department of Justice officials, there are Department of Justice officials that were told they were going to meet with William Barr

last summer on the same day. He submitted his unsolicited memo that called the Special Counsel's obstruction of justice inquiry fatally misconceived. So bar, here's the timeline, bar wrote the 20-page memo when he was a private attorney. Three weeks later, well that day he wrote the memo, the justice department officials were told they were going to meet with him. Three weeks later, they met with him for lunch.

And then he was nominated to be a attorney general six months later, right after the midterms, right? The meeting was apparently arranged by Stephen. I don't know if that's it, Stephen Segal. Wow, that's a bad ass meeting. Stephen Engel, the head of Office of Legal Counsel at Main Justice. Engel is now a legal advisor to the White House and is the guy bar consulted with before he decided there wasn't enough evidence found to establish that Trump had obstructed justice. Turns out, Engle is also the guy, along with Rosenstein, that bar addressed his 20-page memo to the one saying Mueller's investigation into obstruction was fatally misconceived and legally insupportable. This is clearly a cover-up, but what I can't figure out is what the hell's going on with Rosenstein?

Yeah. That's a good question. No, I think not only they worked on it together, I think that's what I read. He consulted with them and then together they came to the conclusion that it didn't constitute obstruction. Right, yeah. That's a fuck. Also life is better when you replace Angle with Steven Segal.

Like so too. It makes the whole thing way more fun. In terms of what the fuck Rosenstein, I feel like there are times throughout this where we put a lot of hope in these people that are still not like our people, you know. Yeah, what happened to that? We were wronged at like trust and like at two Snoop Dogg. Yeah, mm-hmm. What?

Eighties Snoop Dogg. We're remember what they were. That's funny. At two Snoop Dogg. One thing that would Jeff Sessions. So you're a dad gay because it's you have to put the A, E, the A. Oh, yeah, I learned from a correction. Oh, yes.

Wait, why? Because it is the nominative. We didn't learn how to say it. You're addressing them directly. Ah. And so it's Brutay instead of Brutus. Oh, oh, right. That's right. Yes.

I'm impressed. Yeah. Well, that's the class, but that's impressive. At two Snoop DaGay. Mm. Mm. Mm. Yeah.

Yeah. Rosenstein A. But remember back when Rosenstein and Sessions had that dinner together. Yeah. And then we were, and Muller was there. Yeah. Wait. No, that was with Romney, right?

No. No. This this is one that happened We put it was from a long time ago. There were three people. Yes, there were three people and I can't remember here the third one. Okay, sessions Yeah, was it it was someone else it must have been someone else from justice, right? Was it Rosanna's time? Oh, it was no well Francisco Romney was the other creepy dinner, the little general. Yes, exactly. Thank you. And during that time, we looked at sessions and we're like, sessions is going to flip on

Trump. We had to hope in him. We still hated him, but yeah, you're right. We did consider him being one of those guys. Well, as we thought, Rosin's dad, we thought by hanging out with Rosin's dad, he was being true. Yeah, that's how much we had that inherent trust in Rosin's dad. Yeah.

I think maybe we need to revoke our Snoop Dag love. Mm. Yeah. I mean, we didn't give him that much love, but like we considered him, he's, you know, was said to be a heat shield against the Mueller, like he protected Mueller from getting fun.

Is he in the sexy Justice calendar? No. Okay. We're Republicans in the sexy Justice calendar. He shared for Bob Mueller. Yeah, come, he's changed. They all. Yeah, Comey's changed their affiliation. They all changed their affiliation. Not Rose and Sino, he hasn't changed his...

No. Wow. Well, we know that. That's a tell. Yeah, I mean, I guess it doesn't necessarily mean that they were nefarious and intense necessarily. Although they definitely have been in many points in their life. Which is why they were not to be trusted in the first place.

That's true. I suppose as this Mueller report comes out, bit by bit, and piece by piece, as we pry it from their cold dead hands, skeptical beans. We'll find out. So, I don't know. But we'll be right back, guys, with hot notes. Thanks to Care of for supporting Muller She Road.

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You'll be glad you did. All right, welcome back. Hot notes. Okay, guys, today Jordan has a story about the Trump inaugural, but first, Jalisa, you have an update on the Middle East Marshall plan. Yes, so according to new satellite images, Saudi Arabia is within months of completing its first nuclear reactor. However, it is yet to show any willingness to abide by international regulations preventing them from making a bomb. The reactor is located in the King Abdulaziz city for science and technology, which is on the outskirts of Riyadh. And reactor is located in the King Abdulaziz city for science and technology, which is on

the outskirts of Riyadh. And the satellite images of the site were taken by a former director of nuclear inspections, Robert Kelly. He confirmed that it is a very small 30 kilowatt research reactor that is almost finished. Kelly said, quote, I would guess they could have it all done with the roof in place and the electricity turned on within a year. And Kelly knows what the fuck he's talking about since he worked for the International Atomic Energy Agency for over three decades. The satellite images also show that a 10 meter high steel tubular vessel, which will likely contain the nuclear fuel, has been constructed and more work is being done on the ground surrounding it.

And I love that it's a tubular vessel because in the 70s tubular meant cool, but now it just means scary. 80s, but yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, basically. Totally tubular. I guess the 70s are like everything before 90s to me. Those are valegirl thing. That's totally tubular. Oh yeah, it's tubular.

So yeah, it's creepy now. Kelly also said the main purpose of the research reactor would be to quote train nuclear technicians, which would be crossing a red line because at this point Saudi Arabia is supposed to undergo inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency, but so far they refused to comply. Bloomberg was the first to publish these satellite images. Bloomberg has been killing it with these stories, and all of this is happening while the U.S. Department of Energy granted seven permits

for the, quote, transfer of sensitive nuclear information by U.S. businesses to the Saudi government. Not to mention, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Energy Secretary Rick Perry have completely blocked all congressional committee efforts to find out exactly what the authorizations were for. Congress also wanted to know which companies were involved. However, on Tuesday, the head of the independent nuclear reactor commissions was silent when repeatedly asked whether the commission had been, quote, consulted on the nuclear permits.

In fact, last week, California Democrat bad Sherman. Brad Sherman. It's a good guy. He got it. He told Pompeo, quote, if you cannot trust a regime with a bone saw, you should not trust them with nuclear weapons. Many people believe that Kushner and Flenz spearheaded the push for a quicker deal that would allow the sobbies to bypass the standard regulations.

And even if Trump vetoes Congress's request for further information on these permits, they can still sue the administration, just like they're suing them for everything else. And we'll see what happens there. But that's my hot note, basically. Nice. It's scary. Yeah. We've been going over the Marshall Plan.

Now that's an Argentinian reactor, right? Correct. It was an Argentinian. Yeah. But it's being maintained in Saudi Arabia, yes. So they've got people it's built there Uh, and I think we discussed the size of it a little bit in our daily episodes Yeah, how it's not considered large, but it's still you know can do some damage

Yeah, it's still it's still a reactor But it's um yeah, like you just like you said it's probably for training purposes Mm-hmm, and it doesn't really have anything to do with the secret ones that Trump is trying to get through. Right. But still, if you're doing this in plain sight, what are you doing behind closed doors, you know? Right. And this was all fully non-transparent, as you were saying. Yeah, they won't agree to comply with basic universal regulation. No. And they want to enrich their own uranium instead of purchasing it from somewhere else,

which is the really, really, really, really expensive way to do it. Congress even offered a deal with them, and they were like, no, we're good. And the only time you do that is because you want to enrich it. Absolutely. And enriching it means that you're removing isotopes, taking it from U238 to 235, which I think makes it less stable. It'll wash it free. It'll be reactive. Yeah, I think makes it less stable. It'll function. It'll be reactive.

Yeah, it'll fish in by itself. It's like, it's always like, it's always in fire mode. It's like an anxious, true fire mode. And then it just fish in by itself when it creates potassium and all these other things plus neutrons. And neutrons are the dangerous part. Because and the reason people can't, don't want to be exposed to neutron radiation, is because neutrons are about the size of a hydrogen molecule and hydrogen

is the center of a water molecule and you're made of 70% water, so you'll just boil from the inside. Oh my goodness. If a neutron's react with the water in your body. Oh no. Oh yum, that's intense. And there's a couple different kinds of radiation. Alpha can be stopped by like clothing and beta can be stopped by thicker things

But yeah, I hear with certain reaction like exposure You can just take off your clothes and take a shower and you'll be okay, but only certain Not new trend radiation. You need like seriously eight feet of different materials including polyvinyl and Certain tempered steel and another and then water and then another layer of steel and that's kind of what the reactor's housed in is this shielding. Like the nuclear boobies? Yes. Oh no.

That's what's in the nuclear boobies. They're not so sexy anymore. Yeah, those boobies are going to get breast cancer. Oh my gosh. Oh no. Okay. Yeah, that's a tough one. All right, it's just a radiation. No, the things I was thinking. Yeah, that's a tough one. All right, it's just a radiation.

No, the things I was thinking. Yeah, no worries. The things I was thinking. Yeah, I was thinking it's a lot of things too. Oh, yeah, not you. Not you. We stopped ourselves. No, you know, as a, as a,

the things that was going on in my head right there. I had a bad pun. I'm like, oh, but, oh, but I could, oh, don't say that either. The people. And then we could, no, don't say that. That's true, breast cancer is not a joke Mm-hmm, no, no, but you're fine Jordan. Thank you. No, I definitely wasn't that it was it was all of the subsequent triggers in my head

Yeah, all the B roll in our head I know that everyone's like oh, I wish you would have said it no, no, you don't The fact that when comics censor themselves, you don't wanna know what the hell they just thought. Right. All right, well thank you. Thank you, Julie, so for that reporting. No problem. That is terrifying.

Marshall Plan, we've been on it since episode two. No, six. No, six. I think, six. Two was the Magnetski Act. Oh, you're right. So check out episode six, all about the Marshall Plan. Came out December, I think, of 2017.

It was a long time ago. We were in our kitchen, pardon the sound quality. Now we're in a very professional studio 50 feet away in my spare room. But anyway, thank you for that reporting. That's really comprehensive and it's important that we follow this because that's one of the main things that this Grand Bargain was about Seth Zaibhurtz and talks about the Grand Bargain was about getting stethis out, a nuclear bomb. Oh yeah.

All right, well thank you. Jordan, what is the haps with the Trump inaugural? Yeah, so the House Intel committee is asking for information from Stephanie Winston walkoff. She's a friend of Monia Trump and she is very involved in the planning of the Trump inaugural, which we've now designated as a bringer show. We talked about that in our midweek episode. Which in comedy is a, we're saying the inaugural was a bringer show. We talked about that in our midweek episode. Which in comedy is a, we're

saying the inaugural was a bringer show, right? And comedy of a bringer show is a show that you only get to perform on if you make your friends pay to come watch you. But of course, all of Trump's friends that he made pay for tickets live outside the country, hence nobody physically showing up and leaving a pit in national mall. Bigger than the one that exists in his heart. So that was, oh, I wrote that. Yeah, that's right. I read that. Anyway, they're looking, they're looking for any details on foreign entities that may have been trying to influence Trump through offering gifts to him and his family as well as records about donors to Trump's inaugural committee. They're also asking for info on any communications

between Trump and inaugural and UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Russia to name a few. We also learned to that a federal grand jury apparently subpoenaed walkoff in October of 2018, which indicates a deeper probe than was initially expected, right? Insert Paps, my joke here. I was gonna say, I was gonna bring it up. Butt files. Butt files. Butt files, that's beautiful. The Mueller report is out there.

No, no. You should. You should. Can we make a show called Butt files, like please? There's ones that people have stashed for safe keeping before they go to jail. But I also feel really bad for the people who try to Google our show, because if you Google Butt files, I'm sure that you're not gonna get what you're looking for. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that.

So this is Peter from the house. It's a separate subpoena from the one that federal prosecutors issued back in February to the Trump and I girl as a whole. So just note that. But it was definitely for similar reasons. I'm not going to be able to tell you that. So this is Peter from the house. It's a separate subpoena from the one that federal prosecutors issued back in February to the Trump

inaugural as a whole. So just note that. But it was definitely for similar reasons, like subpoena documents about donors, finances, and documents on their activities. So walkoff as a reminder, she worked in the White House until the inaugural's committee tax filing showed that walkoff had created a company weeks before the inauguration that received $25 million as a vendor. So she basically created a company and oversight that provided services for the inauguration and got to get that money herself. So she was overseeing the money that she was getting.

It's a D issue there. And apparently, when Southern District of New York swiped off Coenshirt last April, they came across recordings between Coen and Walkoff in which they talked about concerns around exorbitant inaugural spending and how the planning of the inaugural was managed. So, that's the one where she was like,

what if we get audited, what the fuck are we supposed to do? Right, yeah. And so that recording was a really big part of SCN wise kickoff of that whole investigation. So she's also apparently been cooperating with the Southern District and their probes into Cohen for a lot longer than the inaugural committee was aware, which is kind of funny.

Like, what, you been cooperating? It's like I don't even know you anymore. I can't keep track of it all. Right. Yeah, how many seven investigations in Do You Know Your Own Right Now? That's crazy. Yeah.

It's funny to me too, because the lawyer is the one that told The Inoguro that he wasn't aware of her cooperating, which I don't know how that works. But and then also the Eastern District in New York has also been looking into the Tropanocchio committee like you said, what's the many different Los Angeles? Los Angeles.

Yes. In the Eastern District too, they're specifically looking into Tom Barrick's ties to the Middle East. So, this is like a multi-headed hedron, is that what that's called? Hydra? Hydra? Hydra?

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Hydra? Hydra? Hydra? Hydra? Hydra? Hydra? Hydra? I'm trying to describe or is it no Duccahedron or 12 side it dies? We'll get a corrections or a confirmation. Yeah, I knew what you meant Jordan at least you got I got the gist of what you were going for. Thank you. I appreciate that Hydra Hydra Hydra Hydra that's the lady with the snakes in her head. No, that's Medusa. God damn it We're getting to the hard questions now. It's half journalism. The Hydra, more often known as Hydra, is a serpentine water monster in Greek and Roman mythology. Its layer was in the lake of Lerna, and it's got heads, many heads. Many heads. Okay. Many heads. Well, that was worth it. Many headed serpent.

Oh, it's kind of. So they are snakes. So I could see how you would conflate it with the snakes on Medusa's head. Right. But she just turned you into stone. Right. If you look at her. But also had snakes on her head. Hate that. But herself was not a snake. Correct. She was a lady. It conduit to snakes. Yeah, just like Monster Zing. They're Lady Head Snakes in her head. Yes. Yeah. It comes with a tool. That's right. Yeah. All right. Thank you. Bring it back. You can call back to Monster Zing, the lady had snakes in her head. Yes. Yeah, it comes with tools. Cool circle, that's right, yeah. All right, thank you. Bring it back. You can call back to Monster Zing.

All right. Nice. That was very helpful. So considering this multi-headed investigation network exists, I don't think that this is going to be the end of individuals receiving subpoenas as it relates to this matter or investigation because Adam Schiff of all it especially not in the House Intelligence Committee right because Adam Schiff has said that the panel will investigate any financial or other leverage that foreign actors

might have over Trump and his administration. So he's dedicated to this. He is dedicated. He's dedicated to this. He is dedicated. Mm-hmm. Thankfully. Thank you, Jordan. Yeah. You're welcome. Yes, so I was right.

Doha Decahedrin. I was wrong and then right. Doha Decahedrin is 12. But it's an eye-secker, Heedrin. It's a 20-sided die. So there you go. 20 faces. Ancient Greek, meaning 20.

Wow. What a seat. Interesting died to play with. Dice? Is that plural? I think die is singular. I think I need to be a bit English. What a morbid way to.

Yeah. Say that. Yeah, usually I roll 120 sided die or because, I mean, two. Who needs to choose between 40 fucking things? That's funny. That would be a weird game of crap. Come on. 800. All right, cool. Well, thank you for that. Trump and I girl going down. Guys, this was a really interesting week in

grand jury news. Let's rewind back to bars letters, plural letters. It was just the one, but now there's four, I think. So we know the bullshit summary from March 24th, right? It's not even a summary. After a bunch of media outlets exonerated the president, immediately, including Candelanian, who has blocked me for calling him out on it, I had thought for sure Trump would get an approval ratings boost. Remember we talked about that?

We were like, it's gonna be bummer, his approval rating's gonna go up. But he got nothing. He got 0.1% of a boost. And polling shows that most Americans don't accept bars characterization, and 84% want to see the full Mueller report. So that's an important thing to remember going forward,

because now that was the best it could have possibly ever gotten for Trump with the Mueller report was that moment. It will never be better than that for him. And he got 0.1% of a boost out of it. So then a second letter shortly followed walking back the first letter from bar telling us to stop referring to his letter as a summary. He also blamed the media for mischaracterizing it as a summary instead of himself. And that second letter is also when bar said that he would be redacting the molar reports, specifically hiding information in four buckets.

Grand jury information, sources and methods trade craft, other classified info, that's one, on charge third parties, which could include the president, um, shit that could be embarrassing to Trump and information subject to executive privilege. So Barr says he has no plans to give the report to the president, and he'd make all those decisions himself. And that he would not make the April 2nd deadline demanded by Congress, but that he'd have to have it to them like by mid-April. So rather than wait for a redacted report, the House Judiciary voted Wednesday to subpoena

the full report and all the underlying evidence and documentation. And while we were waiting for that, we heard from Mueller's team for the first time in two years. They didn't know, Neriapip from them until this. Apparently, some members of the team told the press they were really pissed off about Barr's characterization of their work. And the New York Times told, and the Washington Post reported that Mueller staffers had actually written summaries for each section of the report. There were multiple sections. And that that front matter was pretty much immediately ready for public release. Jerry Nadler, the Democratic chair of the Judiciary Committee,

we all know Jerry. Mr. Nadler sent a letter to Barr asking for the summaries, give me the summaries, this is disturbing, and all communications between the Department and Special Counsel regarding the release, or lack thereof, of the Mueller report. He's like, why the fuck are you? Bro, they had written the summaries and you didn't give them to us.

You gave us this bullshit thing and I'm terror by paraphrasing. And now, you know, so now I want to see all the communications about it. You fucking piece of shit. Bar fired back on behalf of main justice saying he didn't actually really, on behalf of himself, saying he didn't release the front-matter summaries prepared by the Mueller staff because they contained grand jury materials and grand jury information. So this Weapons Great Asshole wants us to believe that the Mueller team members wrote summaries for the public that included information that can't be viewed by the public.

And I just call bullshit on that. That is not possible. There might have been some things in there that could be quickly redacted, but their characterization of this front matter is that it could pretty much immediately be released to the public. Yeah, it was public ready with the intention of being released to the public. I mean, it seems pretty clear, but we know bars and tensions are aligned with Trump. That's why he was placed there. We were optimistic, but we were wrong. And

now, you know, what do we, now we can see like we were blind. I'm sorry, I miss led you all. It's okay. Hey, I'm so ashamed. I also, I mean, it looks like that's, that's like a likely thing, but we don't know everything yet. Like you said. So, we don't, we don't. Yeah. But speaking of grand jury stuff, Mueller's grand jury met Friday for the first time since Roger Stone was indicted, as I mentioned earlier during corrections. And then there was a CNN article that went out Friday

with a super misleading headline saying a federal appeals court ruled that federal district judges do not have the power to make grand jury records public. Okay. CNN. First. Uh, true public, public. They don't have right to make it public.

Uh, very misleading headline because this case was about an author that was writing a book about a guy that got murdered in the 50s and he was asking the court for the grand jury material so he could write his book. And the court decided this dude couldn't have him because the court doesn't have the inherent power to release grand jury materials outside of Rule 6E to the public. But do not worry, everyone. Rule 6E allows for release to Congress under certain circumstances. That is how the Jaworsky stuff made it from Watergate, from their grand jury to Congress.

And it's how the Ken Star grand jury stuff made it to Congress. But he also released his full-ass report. Because those situations fall within the purview of Rule 6E. And CNN's trying to make it sound like Mueller can't release his grand jury stuff. Sorry. But that's not the case at all. So this probably won't have any effect. It could, you know, depending on how the, you know, the court decides

But I don't think it's going to have any effect on the Mueller grand jury material And I wish these assholes would quit misapplying case law. Yeah Do you remember when there was that case? Everyone was flipping out about because the mainstream media Said everyone should freak out about it was US versus gamble And it had to do with the dual sovereignty doctrine and double jeopardy. And everyone was like, this is gonna be able to pardon everybody.

Yeah, with the Supreme Court. Yeah, this is another one of those. Everyone, it's cool. I forget what exactly they were trying to say. I knew you were gonna ask me that. God damn it. Double jeopardy, right? Who is it about?

They were basically trying to say, it was this guy who had committed a crime. He went to jail and then he was charged again at the state level and they said you aren't allowed to do that because of the dual sovereignty doctrine and that was because he'd already gone to jail. So that's kind of it and they were saying you can't do that and that's a very specific instance and I think that that that is double jeopardy and that applies to that specific case. But it wouldn't in these other cases where these guys haven't gone to jail yet

and where the crimes aren't the same. And cause this was the exact same crime. And in these like the Manafort case, you know how he's being taken down in New York by the attorney general there. They're separate crimes. Or is it the DA, Manhattan District Attorney for all the real estate?

Mortgage stuff. Crimes, mortgage stuff fraud, stuff like that. I think it's the DA. That's Attorney for all the real estate? Mortgage stuff? Crimes, mortgage stuff, Rod, stuff like that. Ooh, I think it's the DA. That's a all. That's all, I think it's side-vants, right? I can't remember. Anyway, that's all different. Those are different crimes.

Yeah, so it's not the same. Well, no, wait a second, they're the same crimes, but it's tax, it's tax stuff. And so they have to do with state taxes and local real estate stuff because he evaded federal taxes and that was the federal prosecution. Here he evaded the state taxes. Okay. So basically charging for the same crimes went on a stay level instead of a federal level.

Right. Yeah. And that being considered like a separate or like new proceeding. It's technically a different crime because he evaded state taxes instead of evading federal taxes. Right. There's like, there's different different business and that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whole different like system, right? Yeah, yeah. So this is one of those kind of things, the USB gamble. From experts and lawyers I've spoken to, including Bard McQuade, Mueller Grand jury material falls within the 60 guidelines. And there's a lot of precedent for this. Again, it could, like I said, it could go anyway, but I really think that the law is on the side on our side on this one. But this week, Judge Barrel Howe, the one that would decide on the

grand jury stuff being sent to Congress, ruled that she would not release the name of the mystery company from country A, because the case is still ongoing. That's the continues robustly case. And maybe that's what the Grand jury was meeting about this Friday or perhaps, like I said, Justice porn, total space beans, complete theory based on nothing. Please don't hold me to this. But maybe the Grand jury is also pissed about the bar memo, like I said before, and they know from listening to Molarishi wrote about the Jaworski Road map. And maybe they went down there to authorize the release of the materials to the

house judiciary, just like the Watergate Grand Jury took upon themselves to do. This is a dream of mine. Again, don't get mad if it doesn't come true. Dreams. All right, you guys ready for sabotage? Yes! Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. All right. Initially, this sabotage was about what did not happen this week. We were expecting to get an update on the Sam Patton, like a sentencing update, a sentencing memo in the Sam Patton case, filed by the Mueller team. And that was due midnight last night. Came and went. didn't hear anything.

And that immediately said to me, I remembered that whole manifold filing when they got it all. And they were supposed to release it by midnight, but they were so much of it, they had to go through it and redact it for public consumption. And so that's what I thought was happening here. It says, they're looking at it.

They're deciding if it can be released to the public. And if they redact any or part of it, that means that those parts are still part of an open and ongoing investigation, which makes sense. Because as Jordan, you were saying there are seven investigations into the president's inaugural. And Sam Patton is the guy who was selling tickets, you know, getting the money of the bringer. Yeah. To the bringer, the Ukrainian bringer show. And basically, you take $50,000 from the two dudes that got

the polling data from Manafort via Kalimnik and funneled into the inaugural. That's one of, and I know Muller was and handed off, was looking at all kinds of people like, why were there so many Chinese folks, Chinese businessmen and stuff like that? What was all with all the Ukrainians? And why were they all there? And so I know that they're all, that's a heavy investigation. There's still, it's still ongoing, but yeah, Mueller's done.

Yeah, he might be, but seven in the face. That goes to Mueller lives on. Well, just two minutes ago, somebody sent me something. It's a photo, I think of a case docket and it says I'm looking at it right now. April 4th, 2019. Recommendation of PSI report prepared by Suspo Kelly Kramer-Soraz. No idea. As to W. Samuel Patten regarding final pre-sentence investigation report, not for public disclosure per judicial conference policy.

Entered April 4th, 2019. The end. So I don't know if somebody made this up or if this is really what happened, but apparently we aren't allowed to see what's in that report yet. Interesting. So you might need to take that on that knowledge with you in to the fantasy indictment league. Oh yeah. I'm gonna be a dick. No it is gonna be okay. I'm gonna be okay. Just calm down. I can't calm down. I'm gonna be a dick. All guys, it is time to play and I get to go first.

I pick a Sange. God dammit. A Sange apparently is hours to days away from being snatched up, kicked out of the Ecuadorian Embassy. I'm worried about his cat, I want to know what's going on with his cat. There should be a Sange's cat on Twitter just to keep me up to the, yeah, I think someone said they actually do have it. Good. And I hope, I hope we get to trade,

you have follow the footsteps of the cat. Yeah. That's my biggest little bean prints, little beans, most of my biggest worry is his little pizza. So, uh, good pick, good pick. Julie, I'm gonna go with Wiselberg with the Cohen stuff. I think it's still gonna brew up, you know, some thinnier. Wiselberg. the Cohen stuff, I think it's still gonna brew up, you know, something. Weiselberg. Wicked leaks.

Wicked leaks. Wicked, wicked. Can I call him Weiselberg? I'm sorry, I know we're past it, but like that's in a potential, okay, cool. Weiselberg. I have a question. I keep picking Wicked leaks in addition to a sange because I'm assuming that that would entail like a different level of procedure.

Sure. A different indictment. Yeah, I would imagine. What is, if he's the like ahead of it then, isn't he still the person that's primarily implicated? I think we can like, as an entity could also be indicted just when you indict an entity. Right now I know it can't. When you indict an entity, you aren't indicting any person.

You're indicting the entity itself. So who goes to represent them, just a lawyer? And that's it. I think so. I know what a representative is. That's a good question. Interesting. Okay,'s it. I think so. I know what a representative. It's a good question. Yeah. Interesting.

Okay, well, yeah. I mean, he'll be fucked to double fucked, but right. It's, yeah. It is definitely a separate thing. Like we indicted Progoshan and Concord Management. And Concord Management. Concord Management. Yeah, yeah.

The IRA, dudes. And he, and Concord Management is represented right now by American lawyers. Progoshan is nowhere near the courtroom. Obviously. He's not gonna come to the United States We'll be snatched up in a second. Yeah, good example, but yeah apples to oranges though a little bit different Yeah, totally okay cool wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki wiki. Shut up Let's see. I'm gonna go with AMI Cool and inquirer. I think it would be AMI since it's the parent company, but it might just get the inquirer,

but I think, no, yeah, AMI was the one who signed the Non-Proscutor Agreement. One of them. Cool. I'm going to do Ivanka. All right. Yeah, I don't think she's invincible a little. What do they call it behind her back? The White House staff calls her royalty prince or something like that?

Like some kind of prince. Her majesty? Yeah, but it's not even a big burn. call it behind her back the White House staff calls her royalty or something like that, like some kind of princess. Her majesty. Yeah, but it's not even a big burn. It's just like, that's their way of like making the White House princess. Yeah, something like that. Yeah.

Bitch. Princess royalty, I think is what it is. Which is a cool rapper name. I know someone who's like Princess Nochi, and so I can see that working out for her mixtape. But yeah, Ivanka. Yeah, I can't wait to hear Ivanka's mixtape. You know, I would give it to her because like, if he? Yeah, but bad Bobby. She's the one that was

like, catch me outside like a bad baby hyperpynosure name. She's a really good rapper. Like, Ivanka should get out of politics and get into hip hop and she might be more well liked. You're not buying it. I'll let you know. Although, a lot of people don't realize I can rap. That's so true, A.G. You got mad bars. Bars. Thanks, man. Okay, yes, Ivanka. Let's do Tom Barrick.

Good one. Nice. That guy's in trouble in like nine different ways. Yeah, he's the anti-Berock. He's the anti-Berock. He just needs a Van Dyke, like a mustache. An evil goatee. Yeah, yeah.

All right, I'm going to go with Dylan Howard, lawyer for AMI. He's also had a non-priced execution agreement. Pecker didn't, but Pecker got partial immunity. Yeah. So I'm going to go with Dylan Howard. OK. I'm going to do Sherry Dylan. Good one.

Yeah, one of those tax councils for the Trump org. Kushner. Kush. Good, Kush. I'm gonna go with the picker. Oh, that's you're gonna say. I'm gonna go with the picker That you're gonna say pulling down there. Yeah, I'm going all in on the AMI stuff. I like that It's like a theme of it. Yeah, that's the fourth one. That is your fourth. All right. I will go with junior Yeah, such a long shot, but it's just I want to I mean something right just for his face for his beard with little thing on his face totally yeah, I indict him for that I indict you

I'm gonna say Corsi plea agreement bringing that background bringing it back in that case I'm gonna go with Blavotnik for my last one he's the guy who gave a bunch of money to Mitch yeah I'm trying to write his name and I'm like I have no idea how to respel this B L A V A T and I K wow I wasn't too far off just a couple of letters just all the just all but Okay, I am gonna go with... We got all the kids except for Eric. I mean, honestly, Eric's just a fun one-of-pick, but...

Yeah, I'm gonna go with Eric. Because you never know. I don't think he's clean, and I always feel like I leave him out of the pink, so... I have all the other siblings. Well, I forget that Tiffany is a person, that's right. But I pick Eric over Tiffany. So, I forget that Tiffany is a person, that's right. But I pick Eric over Tiffany. So does her dad.

Yeah, I know it's kind of a throwaway, but if you're going to get one sibling, you might as well get them all. Yeah. I think, yeah, you guys have, Jordan has one more. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Or did it, let me see.

One, two, three, four, yeah. Oh shit, I'm so sorry. No worries I was just sitting here Research and Blavott Nick. He's a wealthiest man in the UK and the 50th wealthiest person in the world Wow and Bayesos is X-Y who's about to be the fourth richest woman every time I see her face Unlike that's the face of the four. That's really it's the smirk on her face is what it seems like She's really she's gonna be a little happy that. Or sad that her marriage is falling apart. So I don't want to be a dick.

Yeah, that's also a bummer. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to say dirty, dirty bird, dirty bird. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, right, yes, Michael Sanchez. Yeah, because if they find more teeth to that Saudi connection, I'm going to think they're going to indict him. Bains. Nice, okay, that's all fine for us. All right, guys, that's how we do the fantasy indictment league. We will be right back with the interview with Greg Brookes.

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Today for the interview, one of my favorite comics, he's got a new album out on iTunes called The Resistance. You know him from the smartest man in the world podcast, and whose line is it anyway? He'll be joining us live at the Largo in Los Angeles April 18th. Please welcome Greg Proops. Greg, thanks for joining us on Muller's She Road. Hi, EG. Hello, Mueller's. How are you? Good, how are you? I'm great. I'm great. We just got back from the road. You're on the road, so roads.

Yeah, massive roads. And in D and Apple, we're going to Bloomington tonight, which is kind of the, uh, I don't know how to describe it, the Berkeley of Indiana, if there is such a thing. Okay, kind of like Athens in Georgia. Exactly. Well, right on. Let us know how that goes. That'll be cool. Are you doing a, you're, are you touring on your album?

Are you doing Who's Line? Oh no, this is a Who's Line, yeah. We got Dave Foley with us this week, and then next week Drew is doing a bunch of shows, and then Dave comes back. Oh cool. And then I go to a Star Wars convention. Ooh, where's that? In Chicago, on the 14th.

15th. Nice, we just had Wondercon and then Comic-Con's coming up. We always go to that. Yeah, I've never been before. I mean, I went to Comic-Con. Oh my God, and like 80 something when it was little dinky, nothing. Yeah, like three booths and guys selling comic books and that was it.

Right, there was a comic book exactly and now, uh, uh, yeah, this is some big Star Wars to do in Chicago, so they asked me to come to my doing it because uh, I was, what I was in, of course, the finest of all the movies, The Phantom Menace. We did an animated show last year called The Resistance and I was in that as well and and then there was one a couple years ago called my camera break. I think it was called Climors. I played a bad guy in that one which was cool and I tried to kill Prince of Mandala and then my character gets blown and then to blown away and then they call me after I did it and I was like you want to do the same character again. And I was like, my character's dad.

And they were like, great, it's Star Wars, it's prequel. So you never really dad in their universe. Well, that's a bonus. It's a good job, security. Did it, right? Yeah, they'll just reboot it every few years with time travel and you're good to go. Exactly.

Somehow I keep popping up in every incarnation of it. So I couldn't be, it's good, it's fun. Yeah, that is good. Well, I wanted to talk to you a little bit today about the, I want to see how you were feeling after the quote-unquote release of the quote-unquote molar report. And the now seeming walk back on the call for exoneration and no collusion and no coordination by the mainstream media. What, how are you, how are you thinking about this? Well, I mean, it's, it's, it's disappointing and disgusting, of course, but I mean, I think this was there.

The reason they even picked bar to be the AG is because he's completely in the bag. Um, Karab, he's already written a bunch of papers and that with other guys in the bag, corrupt, he'd already written a bunch of papers and met with other guys at the federalist society, saying that he didn't feel the president could ever be indicted and that he blocked that at every turn. And so, you know, Mueller's a square, you know, he's a straight shooter and his team sent him this giant report because that was what they were legally supposed to do, the news. They didn't leak it or give it to Jerry Nadler or the New York Times or whatever, or whatever the right wingers think the press does, give it to the Lefty Lesbian, vegan journal, and Madison, Wisconsin. They played ball and they gave it to the Justice

Department and he stuffed it. Then he gave that crappy, adapted semi-collarant, non-sentence letter and then with a two subsequent letters that haven't clarified anything. And of course they did a victory lap about it. I mean the one thing you can be sure of, obviously I'm burning with rage over the whole thing, but the one thing you be sure of is that if Genie Piero and of Orn's 45 or screaming something very loudly that it's the absolute opposite of the truth because their compulsive congenital pathological liars, they have no track with the truth whatsoever. So him screaming occlusion and exoneration and all that means, there's tons of it in there.

And they said, you know, you've been reading at New York Times and the Washington Post last couple of days, Mueller's team's packed off. That it's being characterized this way, that it's some sort of blanket exoneration of them. They're like, by no means is it that. There's tons of stuff in there. This is an international conspiracy to commit crimes, and they've done a lot of research on it,

and they spend a lot of time putting it together, and apparently have their own version that is redacted and ready to go to be released to the public without endangering anybody that doesn't want to endanger. There's a bargehole rationale that certain people will be heard or whatever. It flies completely in the face of how he acted during the Clinton administration.

And any precedent, let's be honest, when they were in Peach Clinton, Ken Star, who's a terrible, terrible person and lawyer, released that awful report, and it was lurured and damaging and basically made Clinton more popular because it was so awful. And I think that all of the bars reasons are just complete nonsense and he's still wrong. So I don't know, there was a long answer. But I don't, I think it's gradually going to leak out. I think that they're subpoenaing the devil out of the report. I think that eventually the Nathalie's committee will get it. And also, I feel like this, this White House is super leaky. It seems to me someone might get, uh, jumpy and then throw it out there.

That is a distinct possibility. You're right. That is everybody. It's pretty cut through it there. And they all kind of want to dick each other over. So I mean, he's down to putting Hermann Cain on the fat. We're talking about someone who you wouldn't let him walk your kid across the street. You know, what I mean, not only is he a noun predator, he has all the qualifications to be a Trump appointee. He is stupid, arrogant, entitled, and a sexual predator. You may remember when Hermit came to him for president, a reporter asked him about his back of stand, and he thought that it was a made up country and he went, it was Becky, Becky, Becky stand,

you're trying to trick me, trick me by knowing where a foreign country was or what it was. And then his campaign went down in flames because it turned out he was sexually harassed, he everyone on the earth. So he's exactly perfect for 45 to put in there. And who is the other cat more, whatever his name is? He hasn't paid his wife anything, you know, basically you have to be an abuser of winning for him to recognize you and acknowledge you. And then failing that or including in that a white supremacist is those are sort of the two and willing to lie at all times. Now I think when you Mattis left, Mattis certainly fit the bill because he was screaming white supremacist but I think you just got tired of lying all the time. You know, at a certain point this military training kicked in and he was like no I can't. I'm tired of lying all the time. You know, at a certain point, this military training kicked in and he was like,

no, I can't. I'm tired of you changing your mind every two seconds. I mean, because literally, you know, what successful policies have come in the last two years? They got the tax cut for the rich, and that was pretty much it. The only legislative thing. Maybe some of that crappy prison reform thing.

Of course, establishing the, you know, the child detention prison had a file camp so that they have for immigrants now and all that. They don't have a lot of, I mean, he was going to close the border was he, and then he walked that one back. We were going to have, we were going to destroy the Affordable Care Act, and then they walked that one back after McConnell called him and what do not do this to me. And I think that everything that they come up with is so wildly unpopular with the public. The only reason we're not chasing everybody through the streets with torches is because

the mainstream media is run by guys like Jeff Zucker and they're white guys and they want to protect this, they want to keep it going. To them, it's a game, to them, it's a horse race, to them it's both sides are equal. That's why the mainstream press exoneration of them and repeating a crappy lighthouse talking points was a real shameful, shameful episode. If anything they should have all just went, this is their version of this. We're gonna wait until we see it. And I didn't see a lot of reporter other than Rachel, of course, and some other, you know, astute reporters, Natasha Bertrand, and you know, the usual ones that are that dig deep, David Cornen, the ones that are experts

on this all went no. And the, but the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the of times in Washington Post and all happy to put out op-eds about how it should be over. First of all, there's no such thing as collusion we've talked about before. There's conspiracy. Collusion's a made-up word. And then there was Cohen's. I'm sure if you saw that today, Cohen's lawyers have tons of stuff. They're a mad that he's going to have to do three years for what they've described as doing what Trump asked him to do. And so they're saying, you know, he's got tons of material on the Russian meetings and

all the things that we need to place. I mean, even if they say that they're exonerated, it doesn't change the very facts that we already know that there was a meeting at Trump Tower. There was a real estate deal in place that Trump Jr. and Jared worked the meeting with Manafort. It doesn't change the Manafort's going to jail, it doesn't change the cones going to jail. I think it was a major fail on the media, but then, Angie, I'm just so, I don't believe in the fake news thing, I really, I really detested it. So Nazi German ages makes me sick.

It's absolutely out of the Nazi playbook. They always use that phrase. And it's also Annie Semitic, let's be honest. But to call it the press, fake news and the lying press is, we'll read what are the Germans, what are the Nazis call it, the Logan press, right? They lie. Yeah, straight out of Gerbels' handbook. Yeah, absolutely. Gerbels invented that, you know, really popularized that idea because they had movies and radio and Hitler, more than FDR, pioneered the use of the radio address. As soon as we had a popular in the 30s, he

went on every week, and then it was all about the Jews and the communists and the intellectuals and the queers and this and that and demonizing everybody. And I think this is what they tried to do. However, having said that, I feel like the press could have been a little more staunch about this Mueller report instead of folding and just going, oh, well, he says he's exonerated. He must be. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I think they did definitely fold, like you said. And, you know, speaking of one of our biggest mistakes was kind of giving bar the benefit of the doubt. We're like, he's friends with Mueller. He's been the AG before.

Yeah, I was around contra, kind of a cover-up, he kind of a pardony guy. But let's wait and see what happens. And now it just seems to me like he's doing cover-up for Trump instead of being an independent, you know, head of the Department of Justice. I think the whole point of his appointment was that he assured them beforehand, much like Kavanaugh or much like Gorsuch or Mininchen or Ross or D'Aus or any of these knuckleheads that are in there. They had a sure answers beforehand that they would absolutely protect them at all costs

and tow the line. And that's why he was put in. The Senate approved him because we're missing four Republicans with a conscience. All these things passed by a couple of three votes. And if Mitch McConnell was to suddenly turn into a box of cornflakes tomorrow, it would be the best thing that ever happened to the United States. He's been the most destructive force of impolitics in the last 20 years. The thing I can't wrap my head around is what happened to Rosenstein States. He's been the most destructive force of impolitics in the last 20 years. The thing I can't wrap my head around is what happened to Rosenstein.

He seemed to be a heat shield for this whole thing, and now he is not. No, he noticed how quiet he's been the last week. I think they've been muscling him, and I think I had a feeling that I thought he might even resign at some point over this nonsense, but I think they're just going to try to. They don't have a big overarching strategy, and he's not a genius. He doesn't think of long-range plans or anything like that, because he doesn't have any thoughts

about long-range plans. He doesn't read. He receives all his information through television, and he doesn't even watch all the stations, he only watches the one he likes. And, you know, Moses, he was a replacement, and I think what scared him at first was that he had too much integrity. And now we're seeing that he's willing to kind of play ball on this tale. Yeah, I just don't get it because he is a witness in the obstruction of justice case. Huh?

So, Bar is clearly a structing justice because he's reviewing up to three letters now, explaining why he isn't releasing the report that he said he was going to release. Of course, 45 said a week ago, hey, release him, let everyone see him. And as soon as he cannot, no, don't release him. Because he knows that there's going to be page after page after page after page of the page of descriptions of him obstructing justice and other nefarious activities going on. I think that the attorney generals in New York and Virginia, their jurisdictions are going to be carrying on with this case for a long time. I don't think anyone's out of the woods on this.

I don't think it even begins to discreet the scope of the Trump crime organization. I think when Adam Schiff gets Mueller in front of the committee, which he described as inevitable yesterday, that's going to be a moment and hopefully that'll be televised. Do you see Bob Mueller up there for all day, in front of that committee? Of course all the Republicans are like morons, he's in Jordanal scream and you know, and they'll all act like the penheads that they are and they're having a race to see. You can be the stupidest between Louis Gummer, Matt Gaetz, Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan, and of course the Ripper Hensel Steve King. But I think when they get Mueller in there, Mueller is

going to be very forthcoming. And now we have Jerry Nadler, who based on the Washington Post and New York Times reporting from this week saying that there were people in Mueller's team who wrote up summaries, front matter for each section of the report that were intended for the public, that NADDler's demanding these summaries and trying to find out, get all communications regarding why these summaries weren't released.

And Barr is sort of walking at back, saying that he couldn't release the summaries because they contained grand jury material. So he wants us to believe that career DOJ FBI Mueller team lawyers wrote Summaries for public consumption that weren't allowed to be viewed by the public and that has got to be the dumbest thing

I've ever heard. It's absolutely the biggest blanket lie into It now we're into like the communist Russia playbook here where you just say something that's absolutely all versus the truth as you said Mueller's team or what did what a 45 always call them the 15 angry Democrats which they aren't aren't all experienced prosecutors and They were never going to write something their summation. I'm sure is extraordinary reading You know, it's gonna be be page after page of Fox, laid down very carefully. It's not going to be the income here.

I believe there's no full sentences on the first copy for page letter that Barford out. Right. Just sentence fragments. So this is where we're at here. We're at the illiterate level of governance. Yeah, it is. It's a shocking state of affairs, but I don't think, you know, Where's the illiterate level of governance? Yeah, it is.

It's a shocking state of affairs, but I don't think, you know, I don't think it holds together forever. Here's a question for you. Do you think that the Democrats, some people are saying the Democrats, Jerry Nadler, the committee chairs in the house should wait to see what they get from bar before they start demanding the report? Or do you think they're right to immediately request and then probably subpoena these reports?

I think they're right to do it. I think Neil is the on the finance committee. He's asked the IRS for all of 45's returns. I think that that's why 45's, you know, running around crazy and saying crazy stuff like windmills cause cancer and stuff because he's being besieged on all sides Now everybody knows for a bloody fact which we already knew that Kushner not only has a security risk You should have never had security clearance that he's

What was I can't remember the exact description the other day, him and Ivanka were described as, their personal encounters with people were not even savory, meaning my guess is that they've been calling up every Saudi and Chinese person they could and tried to sell every thing they know. And so that's coming down on into Felix Saider's gonna testify, is he not in a week's time.

Cohen is desperate to squeal more because if Cohen is desperate not to do any of that three years. If his lawyer is blue that thing open today with all this Russian stuff and are like, please look at it. He just doesn't want to go to prison for what he feels like Was his job his job was to cover up his job was to intimidate his job was to be the mob lawyer and So he did it and then he got caught for it and He got you know, he got federal time and now he's wants to sing and sing and sing and sing I mean, you know the idea that anyone's defending him at this

point is this is the lowest point in history for the Republican Party. Obviously, I lived through Watergate and I lived through Iran Contra and I lived through Whitewater and W and Cheney and they were all just awful. There's been like four presidents ever who weren't white supremacists, you know, and The amount of corruption in Reagan administration was astonishing and It was recommended that he put everyone in jail and Herbert Walker came in and just wrote a Brody again out of jail free card. What happened in Iran counter was a complete breach of the Constitution and the Bolin Amendment. It was really bad.

What happened in Watergate, it's kind of smallish potatoes considered compared to what this is going on now. We're talking about a contact with the foreign power to disrupt the United States and have changed the course of the election, which it did. And we know all this. And my God, the National Security Advisor pleaded guilty and is going to go to jail. And he had all the code books and he had all the information and he spent a couple months in office just selling it all out to the Russians.

And yet people come on TV and yell and scream and people write fiery abeds and Lindsey Graham gets up every morning and Mitch McCogill up every morning and eat a drinkable of human blood because they're on a keto diet or whatever You know go about their merry way Let me ask you this, hey, because I'd like to try to understand evil and I keep coming back to the horrible or well-earned conclusion that he makes in 1984 when O'Brien is torturing Winston at the end. And Winston says, I know how. I just want to know why. Why do we have this state of terror?

And O'Brien says, power, the reason for power is power. And power is the power to inflict pain on other people. And that's it. Because there isn't a big, but what is it? The revolution isn't over to the government, the revolutionists to install the government. And I'd like to think that it's not that way, but I'm kind of believing

with these people. It is, because otherwise, why would you want the entire world poisoned, want everything, the economy to be destroyed, are standing to be toppled in the world. Why would you do all these things? What's the end game of it? I know McConnell's real old, Why would you do all these things? What's the end game of it? I know Maconald's real old But not all of them are real old. Certainly they realized there This is he'll his presidents you will be over in a couple of years or at least will face the possibility of being over And what are they going to run on? I mean the midterms wasn't a big smashing success for them. They barfed up 100 seats to women, all of a sudden there's all these women of color running

around Congress which has them completely scared. And their term for scared is crazy, right? Anytime anyone's progressive or of a different color or of a different gender, they're crazy. Yeah, they're gaslighting us basically. And to your point about, you know, the Orwellian, I know how, but why? We've got a friend, friend of mine, comedian named Tamer Katan. He's got a new podcast out called They Tried to Barrier. It's about immigration. Very funny, but also very progressive guy.

And he talks about how fear and hate and power, you know, being the things that they're after, as the why, are like an addiction because they're easy. And so I think when I, to answer your question there, when I frame this power and hate and fear is kind of an addiction, like a drug addiction. It seems to make a little more sense to me as to why they would continue to go after this power for seemingly no other reason than to hurt people.

And it's because it feels good to them and they're addicted to it. Yeah, because you know, they're hemorrhaging women. They have been for a while. The midterms was an absolute forum on him and his policies. Well, the only way they can win is to cheat. That's the only way they can win. They have to make sure that the ultra-cold stays in, which is why there needs to be a big push to abolish it.

They have to make sure that voter suppression is entrenched, which is why he wants to make co-bots of, you know, voterings are. And co-bots the most egregious oppressor of voters since Brian Kamp and a screaming white supremacist. They want to make sure women can't have health air, which is, you know, the Nazis did the same thing. One of the first things in the 30s was to ban abortion. I think they're literally trying to kill democratic voters

by abolishing health care, taking away welfare, taking away food stamps, taking away Medicare, shutting down the border, because I took our car, took our carlson said the other day that Democrats want open borders because we want to quote-unquote change the population, which is Nazi shit right there. But I think they're literally trying to eliminate, through death, democratic voters, and then

also, you know, they're attacking it from multiple sides, right? Because you've got all those things that I just mentioned, plus the district thing, plus the voting czar, killing voting rights bill suppression, and teaming up for an adversaries who are global authoritarians to try to suppress the vote. Yep, and all these things are going on. But at the same time, if the election happens, one, there's all, of course, the crazy dog scenarios

of they try to stop the election and happening. Two, the election happens, he loses, and he refuses to advocate, and somehow the Justice Department has to remove him from office, or the Army, or whatever happens at that point. Then if it comes to coup, if it's allowed to, if we even have an election that was as tainted as the last one, they're going to lose. All the states that went for him got weep and eyesed. I think everybody's hipped at the jive. I think people are more galvanized than they ever were. I'm sure in your life

You've seen people that didn't ever care one wit for politics. All of a sudden are card carrying in the street signing up going to meetings activating, you know becoming activists and I think It's kind of scaring them a little. The world's changing real fast. The problem is they got a lot of billionaires. They got all the resources because rich white guys run everything and they got a lot of rich white guys.

Yeah. And regarding your point on gaslighting, because I think one of our listeners maybe emailed me and said that where that term originates from is somebody who was telling another person that they were crazy because that person thought that the lights in these gas lamps were getting brighter and dimmer and he would change the levels of them but tell them but tell the other, you're crazy if you think that until the person believed it. But if you can find a way to measure the light, and I think he'd said something like,

it's called the luminous flux or something like that, then that's the way to resist being gaslit is proving that the light levels are changing. And so I just thought that was a really interesting sort of analogy and metaphor for kind of what's going on right now. And because you know, you know, I'm going to get a bunch of emails saying I'm absolutely insane thinking that Republicans are suppressing the vote in ways that actually physically harm. You're not insane at all. Denying people, health care is a great way to kill a bunch of people. Infinmity-metallity rates, gigantic, high now, where we're really insane at all. Denying people, healthcare is a great way to kill a bunch of people.

Infant mortality rates, again, like they high now, where we're really poor in that. People are, there's poverty level. I'm here in Indianapolis. I've been hit up 72 times between here and across the street. Poverty is raging. And then we have to hear Howard Schultz go on and talk about how socialism will never work.

And Jamie Diamond talking about how, you know, G. Capitalism is great and everything. And it's like, Jamie Diamond should be in jail for what happened in 2008. And Howard Schultz should just shut up. If he really wants to help, he shouldn't run for president. He should give one of the women running for president, but go put Jillian dollars and campaign. No, yeah, you know, people don't want to believe it worst. I still get people saying to me, you used to be funny before you were all political. I've won, I've always been political. And two, you hiding your head in the sand and wanting me to just make you laugh as a clown is not going to stop everything that's happening.

And three, I'm a citizen of my pay taxes and I have as much right as anyone else. And four, I'm really, really funny, so fuck you. I'm gonna tell you who the joke is. And I have the foxes that I get up. So, they are trying to kill people, and they are trying to do this. It's not paranoia. There's a movie from 1940, maybe, with Ingridgrid Bergman and Charles Boyet and it's called Gaslight and it fantastically, Angela Lensbury plays the slutty horrible duplicated is made in it and Ingrid Bergman is with Charles Boyet and he keeps lying to her all the time. She's like, well did this just happen? He's like, you're imagining it there and she starts to go mad. And that's exactly what they're trying to do. What was it?

Orwell also says the chief command of the party was to absolutely not believe what you saw right in front of you. Yeah, what you see with your eyes and here with your ears. And that was their final something or other. Yeah. Yeah, that's their final and most important command. There's a scene in the book where he uh because he works at the Ministry of Information, which is the Ministry of Truth, which is in charge of lies and the chocolate rations gone from three grams to two grams and

Then he's given the assignment to write the article the next day that the chocolate rations been raised to two grams and he had written he he just saw it, come across his desk the day before, that it was lowered, and so he writes it and sends it and you know the world goes on and I feel like that's where we're at now. We reached a level of criminality where 45s destroyed so many, you know, we were not having cross-conferences anymore. They just shout, well, what did she say the other day? Smokey, I said, uh, I got in trouble because I called her Sarah Huckaboo and Pound Cake. It wasn't meant to be about her weight.

It was just a lie. I thought it was funny. But, uh, I try not to fachion. Smokey, I said, uh, Democrats are sore losers. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. There's a hundred black women narrers all over the country Chicago just elected a black lesbian woman mayor San Francisco has a black woman there and land has a black woman mayor New Orleans Charlotte

The face of everything changed and still only women are Only 25% of the Congress and what 23% of the Senate and still men are not about it and still men are pushing women around and making comments about Cortez and making they're crazy they're out of control and You've seen how excellent all the new Congress women have been Katie Porter and Katie Hill and I Anna Prasley and Cortez they get in there and they dig deep and they don't let these guys off the hook. And I think that the people who chair all these committees, it's just a world of change.

And I think that's what's got them spooked, too. They didn't expect after the Ryan Congress, for this Congress, to be fulfilling their job, which is to conduct oversight. But Pelosi said it yesterday. She said, you want to be presidential. Let's see the bar report. You want to be presidential. Let's see your touch returns.

And we're going to keep asking until we get them. And that can meet some hope to carry on. I'd like to think that, you know, I don't know about fixing this in my lifetime, but certainly we can pull back from having a crime family run the show here. Because it is confusing and depressing every day to wake up to this and try to make any kind of sense out of that. Yeah, well, I think the answer is that we just, we've been saying it for a while now,

we just have a vote in numbers to big to manipulate. It's up to us, really. We've always been saying, you know, Mueller is not a messiah. He's not a savior. And Andrea Chaloupon, the show a couple of weeks ago, said, we are the Mueller's we've been waiting for. And we have to leave this up to ourselves in Congress. The Mueller report, or excuse me, the bar letter,

did not give Trump any boost. I thought his ratings would go up, but they did not, or his approval rating. But it didn't. And so I think that what slowly drips out of this Mueller report on top of all the public reporting we already are aware of can only be negative for him. So we just have to keep demanding that, demand his tax returns, keep these investigations full throttle and vote. Fortunately, we're Democrats, we can do two things at once. So I think that's going to be the answer.

We get the government we deserve. We have to work harder, we have to battle electoral college, we have to battle redistricting, we have to battle for an influence, we have to battle redistricting, we have to battle foreign influence, we have to battle cheating and misinformation and disinformation campaigns and propaganda. But I think we can do it. There's way more of us. I think we can do it. I agree. I couldn't agree more in G.

I think the overwhelming tide, like you said, if everyone voted who wasn't for this, they're standing there, chance of winning. And I also noticed that within a couple of days, all the polls came out and no one believed them. Everyone believes that Muller was right and that they shouldn't be withholding this. And this isn't really working either. But then nothing they do really works.

They just keep repeating stuff in line and screaming and hoping it all goes away, which is I think their big game plan is to help it all goes away. which is I think they're big game planists to help it all goes away. I mean, part of why I could see him not wanting to ever leave the office is that he's certain to be chased down as a private citizen.

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