James Bonding - A View To A Kill with Kumail Nanjiani

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

Kumail Nanjiani joins Matt and Matt to discuss a James Bond movie for the ages. Specifically 57. That is the age of Roger Moore in this movie. It's got everything we never knew we wanted from a Bond movie. Including a tenuously unnecessary plot about race horses. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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It's the James Bonding podcast. Hey, everybody. Welcome to James Bonding. I'm Matt. I'm also Matt. Oh, boy. Have we got a guest for you, kids? Well, let me first say that any human being that would set aside two hours and 11 minutes to watch this film.

And I'm on record as loving this film. Sure. And then do a podcast about it. Carmatically has something good coming in another life. Thank you. Oh, thanks for having me. And I will say that when I signed up for it, I didn't know it was two hours, 11 minutes of this movie. Kamail Nongjiani.

Kamil, we've promised you to the audience before, and you finally showed up. I finally showed up. I'm sorry. I was going to do octopus secrets to speak in Hindi and Urdu a lot, and I felt like I would bring a new perspective to it. But you held out for the best. Okay, so here's... I'll tell you my history with James Bond. Please.

I've probably seen all the movies. I was never a big James Bond fan. When I was a kid, I liked some of them. Like, I liked Moonraker, obviously, and... No one's ever said that. No one said, obviously. There's space stuff in it, right? There are lasers.

That's the one with Jaws, right? Yes. So I liked him a lot. There's two with Jaws. But yeah, go ahead. Yeah, there are two with Jaws. So I've seen all of them. I don't remember very much about them.

So for this one, I've seen the new ones. And so for this one, I didn't want to look up because I know some are better than others. So I didn't want to go in with anything. And for me, it was 40 seconds in when he's snowboarding in California, girls comes on. I was like, I think I know what type is. Had you, so you had not seen this one before.

Well, here's the thing. I didn't remember anything except right at the end when they're in the shower and he throws the towel on the robot. Yeah. I remembered that probably because I was a kid watching it feeling all horny and weird. Yeah. And then the robot, like I felt I was the robot and the towel being thrown on me. And I was sort of like, oh, no, I've done something wrong.

So that's probably why. So I have seen it in that, but that's the only part that stayed with it. Is this the robot in the towel the metaphor for everyone's feelings in watching this movie? Like, oh, no, I've done something wrong by watching this movie. I should have done this. I feel so wonderfully bad watching this movie. I love it. It's a lot goofier than I thought it was going to be.

Is this one of the goofiest ones? Yeah. Yeah, it's up there. But it's also, that's what you get with the Roger Moore movie. You get some goofball goofiness. That's right. And this is his last one. So they're going all in on that.

I think, and that's just playing on the fact that he's 57 going, we might as well have some fun. He looks. he's a very handsome man he looks every single day of that 57 he's watching it like why is this old man like which day of his 57th year

do you think he's on well if you look at like Tom Cruise who's got this movie coming out the American what is it called this Tom Cruise movie Mission Impossible Oh sure we'll call it that He's got a new movie coming out

Oh that one American Made Yeah true story And he looks incredible And he's 60 No Isn't he 60? Is he? I feel like he's that

up there. No, he's got to be. How old does Tom Cruise? Someone find out who's out. Well, he's probably Roger Moore of you to a kill age. Let's see. I'm guessing 57. That's what I was going to get. I mean, just, that's, but let's compare that. Let's compare the looks of these two individuals. It's also the technology

now. He's taking stem cell bats and rubbing fetuses on his face. I've heard stories of him getting in freezing cold jacuzies right before every shot. Is that true? That was told by somebody who had firsthand or information and I am not one to spread those kind of rumors, but take it to the back.

So he likes a cryo sort of therapy situation. 55. Okay. So he added five years to him. Roger Moore, Octopus, E. Well, I think, I'm going to airplane mode you just so we don't have the buzzings. Oh. There we go.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, do you know what? We'll just put the phone over closer to you. Yes, sorry. There you go. Yeah, that's good. Is there also a flirty thing with MoneyPenny all the time?

Like, because in the beginning, I was trying to figure out the vibe of it. And I was like, there seems to be a lot of like double entendant or however you say it. Yeah. Yeah. Like she says, he says, I'll fill you in later, Moneypenny. And I was like, was that just, is he flirting with her? What's going on? So do they have a flirty relationship?

Yes. All throughout. Now, I noticed something different here. Oh, I noticed some new things too. Did you too? Yeah, I've got a few, what I call, Glofts that's Gourley's lookout for this. Moneypenny's wearing a wedding ring in this movie. What?

She's got a ring on her left ring finger. Now, maybe it's just some kind of costume jewelry because she's going to the races. But it looks like a wedding ring and an engagement ring. You know, when you go to like a nice party and they have like the bartender said, like at a house but they've hired them, if they're attractive women,

they'll be wearing wedding rings. And a lot of times they're like, if we just do it so we don't get bothered, maybe MoneyPenny didn't want to get bothered at the races. Or by James Bond himself. She's finally like, She finally figured it out. I have gone to human resources countless times and nothing has done about this.

Yeah, just because he's the best. Also, he's now like 57. Get another guy who's not like a serial sexual harasser. I don't know why she wouldn't let him throw her hat. Yeah, what was that moment about? I think it's too dainty. But maybe again, she's just, she's fed up. Like, we've seen the polite girl who's been sexually harassed for years upon years and doesn't feel she has any recourse.

But she's finally speaking up. Maybe she quit. That's why she's not in the next one. Oh, she's not in the next one. Which one is she training her hot replacement? Is that octopusy? Penelopee small bone, is that? Penelopee small bone.

Do you guys watch them chronologically? What's the order here? This go around, we are watching. We each get to pick the next one. So I chose this one. So you haven't watched all of them? No, not yet. Wow.

Well, I mean, we have. In life. In life. Sure. And on the last season of the next season of the next. podcast we did. Yeah. And last moment is interesting because I did notice that I said did I miss something but maybe you're

right it's just like whatever he wants to do I'm going to do the opposite. This is the only recourse I have. If you want to zig, I'm going to zag. It's all my microaggressions. I forgot we see 003. Dead in the snow. Dead in the snow. Yeah that's it. We should be keeping tabs of how he show up. How many

O's die in the course of an investigation. And there's got to be more than 10. Like we got to finally get into the double digits. You never hear of single 010. Yeah, there's no double O. It would be single O10. I'm single O10. We didn't think this through.

We should have done a different scheme. Well, that's what happened with the numbering of this podcast. I had wanted every podcast to be double O whatever. And once it got to 10, the numbering just went 010. I was like, no. It should be double O10. And I'm not fixing it. I'm single O10, reporting for duty.

I don't get it. a lot of work. I have a permit to kill. Someone who has a license has to be with me so I can kill. I'm a learner's permit for killing. My mom usually accompanies me, but she's a bingo. How long have you been a single oath? I'm hard to tell. I don't do time. I don't do time. He's wearing a swatch. A James Bond swatch. Last episode, we went over this limited edition series of James Bond villain swatches that are incredible. And I don't mean that in the best way. I was joking. No.

They did a swatch tie-in. They did a swatch tie-in for sure. So the villain in Tomorrow Never Dies as a media mogul, so his swatches all newspaper headlines. It's black and white. So he's not wearing that. It's what... No.

It's a line of watches inspired by each villain. I think that sounds great. Speaking of villains, this has a great one. Oh, boy. My only note for him. I think he has too many schemes. He's got his fingers in too many pies. That's exactly.

I had never. noticed how unnecessary the horse thing is nothing to do with it and his big plan is a double earthquake that is what it is he called it a explaining it then James Bonner the girl goes

so a double earthquake that's overthinking you've overthought all your scenes we're going to get there but I do love in that in that map room where they're figuring it out that the map room that's in the in the in the blimp no the one in the cave

the one in the mine. I love how she intuitively knows how to turn on the switch to show the double earthquake happening. Yeah. Like when she puts it together, she hits a switch that runs the fault line lights. Did you want the movie to be longer? Did you want them to figure out what the right switch was?

Was that your issue with it? I didn't need any of that. On the record, I would take that deleted scene at the very least. Sure. I'd love to see it deleted scene. But this is, I don't know, Kamel, if you're familiar, but James Bond invents snowboarding in this. Was that the first snowboarding?

As far as I know. Yeah, as far as we know. In a fictional film, as far as we know. Really? I want to, first of all, I want to say, I did love this movie. I had a great time much. I was caught, entertained. Love the snowboarding.

That was the first time snowboarding. I loved the half car. I was on board. The half cars. Grace Jones is a star. She's amazing. Her career should have been much bigger. Really, I know we talk.

talk about this a lot. It really made me miss the James Bond's that are just the single mission. Like this movie can live and die on its own and for many it dies. Yeah. But for me it just it lives on. Well, I think that's sort of the, and I don't know what is the cause of the, well, I guess it's, is it the Marvel expanded universe that is causing all of the serialization of things? And I think Batman, the recent Batman movies. Yeah, but Marvel is the one everybody's trying to emulate Marvel right now. Like every time you talk to someone, they're like, we have this. character that nobody's going to be, I can't name. I have the perfect example in my head, but I can't say it.

Sure. If they hear it, they'll know. Yeah. They'll come after you. They'll come at you. Hard. You know, they tried to do it with Ghostbusters. They were going to like launch this whole world.

And they were, you know, I guess Harry Potter is sort of that with the fantastic beasts existing in the same universe. Oh yeah. Now it's beasts. Yeah. You got your. Beasts of no nation. That's my least favorite.

Hapodder movie. There's hardly any magic. Sexy Beast? Hardly any magic. Sexy Beast is a good entry for that, though. Kingsley is so magical in that. Because Game of Thrones is going to start doing that now, too, right? Yeah, they're going to do like a spin-offs.

That I don't mind so much. Spinoffs gave us many great things, like Laverne and Shirley, Frasier, mod. How hard was it for you to not use Frazier as the first example? Yeah, really. You were like Frasier, but I can't lead with it because I'm Matt Myra. It's going to be too on brand. It wasn't hard, but I did have to think about it.

I don't want to drop Frazier first. I should have gone with Fraser last. I did think that Christopher Walken was amazing in this. Zorin is a great evil-sounding corporation name, his name. This is the first time I watched it through the eyes of what would David Bowie have been like in this movie. And I think he would have been great. I think I'd still take Wocken, but... Wocken was great.

Well, it is like, it's one of those... Oh, of course, at some point Christopher Walken played a Bond villain. Right. And he does so with, I mean, I think it's the best matching of his personality and role. Right. That's right. He also, so his story is that he's like a genetically engineered by like mistake. Yeah.

And he's like a super genius, but also a psychopath. Yeah. But they don't really get into that aspect of it too much. It's sort of mentioned, but you see that he betrays his people all. They have the problem of showing it through horses. Yeah. There is a moment, though. They're showing his story through horses.

This movie jumps to horse. When he, when Zorn yells, you jeopardize mine. You know that part? Of course. There's a reaction after that. Lookout for it where you feel like he went psychotic when he delivered that. Is this a gloft or just a regular look out of it? It's a regular observation.

Although I got a really great gloft coming up in just a second. He reacts afterwards like, oh, I got psychotic, didn't I? Okay. Okay. And it's worth watching for. So he overreacts and then there's this like almost prolonged reaction pause where he just kind of rolls his eyes back in his head a little bit and goes, it takes a breath and it's like, oh, that's that right. I'm an evil psychotic genius and I'm doing it again. Yeah. Yeah, I'm showing it again. Yeah. He's, he's great and it. That sounds like, what is a gloft? It's a Gorley's lookout for this. Is Dolph Lundgren a gloft? He's, he would be, but I think most people listening to this. No, that he's in there. He's in like one quick little thing. Yeah, he was Grace Jones' boyfriend at the time. She was like, I've got the perfect guy.

And she was right. Yeah. Well, so is a strong couple. Eminem agrees. Can you imagine their babies? Their sex must be facie. Or it's just so missionary. No, most of their sex happens in the air.

Like, they're throwing each other around. Oh, yeah. All of the penetration is in it. You can't tell whether to film it or call the cops. Do you know that sexual position where the guy like picks up the grill and they do it standing? Yeah, of course, dude. Do I ever? It would be the reverse where she's holding him.

Somebody please don't do a drawing of that. Well, it's coming now. I disagree. You know what? Somebody please do a cross stitch of that. Or an animation. I would love to see it. A cross stitch of that.

Oh, my God. All right. Here's my gloft. All right. Matt, I think you might really appreciate it. Please, I love a gloft. When 007 is digging up single 010 in the snow or double O3. Yep.

You get a close-up on his ski gloves. His zippers have dangling bees on them for James Bond. This is the first time I've ever wanted an actual piece of James Bond apparel. Their white leather snow gloves and the zipper have a little, like, almost like a charm bracelet bee on them. Uh-huh. So look out for that. That's a great glove. It's not a J-B, it's just a B.

Just a B. Yeah. Okay. That is a great glove. love. Wow. Thank you. Thank you, Matt, for watching with such a keen eye. I've seen this movie so many times that I feel I'm looking in the background now for just gems.

You know, I just, I found myself watching this movie and really focusing on this unnecessary horse plot. It got to you. It really bothered me. I have two things about it. One, exactly right. It has nothing to do with anything. Two, that thing of the injection happens while the horse is running. Yeah.

is actually a great idea unless they also drug test after the race. Right. Why would they not also just do that? That happens a lot. It also, it's like, for me, it's really like the inspiration for Vin Diesel's character

and Fast and the Furious. That's the Nas. When he hits that button. Yeah. That's the Nas. I've seen one of those movies. What? That's for our next podcast series,

Furiously Fasting. And you guys won't eat and watch movies. We can't eat. Oh my God. What if we did it? What if we recorded a series and we just, we watched all seven of them but did not eat? So we're doing commentary while we're watching them and this is like a 14 hour podcast. And we're fasting.

And so that's about food and these movies. Look at it. Because more and more about food. Hello. Look for it on Stitcher Premium. Yeah. And we like to add in to add in. To add to the suspense of the podcast, we invite a guest over for each movie, but they're allowed to eat.

Okay, I'm going to add something else. You're right. They can only eat your favorite foods. Oh, boy, oh boy. And the thing is, we do this right as the next one is coming out. So right when we finish the last home video one, we go straight to the theater, still recording. So hungry with the smell of popcorn? Yes, and we watch the last one. Maybe you can eat it, eat during that last one.

Yeah, yeah. That's our reward. We get movie theater. Maybe it's a drinking game, but it's an eating game. So in the last one, only when they say certain things. So when they say family, I have to eat a whole hot dog. Yeah, you can eat a whole hot dog. You get to eat a whole hot dog. Yeah, by the end of it, you're going to be.

All right. Look for this on Stitcher Premium in 2019. I thought what the bad guys in this, and I love Grace Jones, and I love Max Zoram, I think they need to work on focus, too many teams. Yes. but also on seeming less evil. They're like fully so evil. They're presenting as evil from the beginning.

Their name is Zoran. Yeah. When she's doing that, when she kills the person with the, there's a fly in his soup, whatever that guy, the butterfly person. The papillon, yeah. Yeah. It's so obviously her.

Like, don't send the most recognizable person in your entire corporation. Like, it's so obvious. The head. They just need to like chill it a little bit. There is a little too much swinging of that thing. Like she really does fucking wind it up. But this scene, and I've always thought this is ridiculous too because there are clearly easier ways to kill someone.

But it is in the great vein of restaurant assassination scenes that demand that the person is killed by the particulars of the restaurant like Salazzo and the Godfather. They've got this great toilet we can hide a gun behind. Well, they just have. happen to have this butterfly lady who doesn't think, so let's use that. Hang on a second. I would put those two scenes up there.

You're saying the restaurant just happens to have a toilet. No, it has one of those old-timey chain toilets that you can hide a gun inside the tank or behind the tank. You can hide a gun in any tank. Look, I'm not saying the movie says that. I'm not seeing you, the most idiosyncratic things about these two restaurants are, one has a toilet and the other has the flying birdfish at all. The flying butterfly fish is a line. Tessio specifically says that joint will be great because it's got one of those old-timey toilets that you can hide a gun behind.

We got to go to this restaurant because it has apps on the menu and we can use that. They have fantastic, fantastic pizza, but also they have a gun. They have a gun hold hiding place. No, they already have a gun there. Okay, so before we jump into the Eiffel Tower area of the movie, I do again, I want to point out my favorite line in all of James Bond. that is delivered by someone that isn't James Bond. Wait, let me see if I can guess. Sure.

It's in M's office. Okay. I'm not sure. And it's the reason the prime minister cannot fathom Max Zoran would be behind any of this. Oh, because he's a prominent businessman or something? He says, Max Zorin, that's impossible. He's a leading French industrialist. Oh, yeah, he's never French in the movie.

I was like, oh my God, Warkin's going to do a fucking crazy accent. It's going to be great. He's not. But it's like, that's the worst reason you can give for anyone to not be evil. He's a French industrialist. Yeah, that sounds so evil. Baseline for that is like pretty evil. So he's a genetically engineered, presumably born somewhere in a concentration king.

Well, he was a staunch anti-communist who came from East Germany. But he has a New York accent. Well, he has no accents. He's sure of that. according to the script. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Schedule.

Schedule. He does say schedule. He has also a pretty good line, which I liked, which was the Duke owned this because he thought he was going to get reincarnated as a horse. Oh, yeah. That felt like an improvost. Why would anybody write that? That has so little to do with anything. And James Bond just takes it in stride because they didn't get it on his coverage.

They got it on Christopher Walker's. covered the door, he'd already gotten bronze. Rajamore was like, it'll be fine. I don't need to react to it. Roger Moore is in a hot tub at that point, and he's just acting to someone else, I'm sure. Yes, that's right. When we're in M's office, I also like to give a report on the size of Q's hands. And we see them up close here.

So in Golden Eye, Q's hands are just giant. Like, he's clearly got some kind of swelling or something. Yeah. What do you mean? Q, you know, that character, Q? No, I know Q's. His hands are just huge as a giant. man that the actor they're just meat hooks okay and enormous hands in this one i'm going to put them at a

golden eye minus two they're not quite at golden eye but they're pretty big so i can doctor know they're kind of minus seven yeah or whatever so many different actors have the bed for q for q so many so many just two three really you're forgetting cleese no but he was r he was q in dine other day oh they switched him to q yeah so this guy the shape the size of his hands has varied over his career They've grown exponentially. Like, it seems like that part of his body never stopped growing. Okay. There's some serious swelling.

I'm curious when we get to the world is not enough. Yeah. Is he still with us? No. And unfortunately, he died in a car accident, not even old age. So he probably would have kept doing him. Oh, my God. So there's the new guy.

Now the new guy. Ben Wisha, yeah. He's the young guy with the great hair and stuff. Yeah, he does have gray hair. Yeah. And then there was John Cleese who was there for, he was Q in one movie. He was R in the previous movie. He's done two movies.

Yeah. Okay. And then, so there's only been three actors. And there's also the cue from Never Say Never Again. Don't count them. Okay. Okay. It's non-canon.

I don't know why we would count this. Okay. Yeah. No, obviously, it doesn't count. It's ridiculous, man. And before we get too far ahead, I do want to say that it is a big point of contention for a lot of people. But when California girls comes on and that's not. Uh-huh.

I do get a smile on my face. I don't know what to say. I will tell you, it was like 9 a. Emily was out of town. This was yesterday. I woke up, I got breakfast. I was like,

I watched this movie not knowing what the level of quality was. And when that came on, a feeling of dread washed over me. At 9 a.m., I was like,

oh, okay. Did the dread? And it's for so short, too. It's for like 30 seconds. It doesn't play for very long. And it has an awkward fade out into some very dramatic music.

So it's very strange. It's like you guys get the jump. This is the jump. Punchline's done. Let's move on. We all know what this is. It's the, I've got to say it's the second use of a pop song in a James Bond movie. Well, there's, what are you thinking of?

Matt Monroe. Oh, right, but there's also the Clash London Calling in one of the Braud ones. Which comes later. Yeah. To this point. Chronologically, it's the second one. And I'm only giving it to Matt Monroe's from Russia with love because it's on the radio. Well, then Bula loop one.

Oh, underneath the mango tree. Underita Mango Tree. Yes, and he sings it. Yeah, and I think isn't it also on a radio too? Yeah, it is. Yeah, all right. Wow. Back to the podcast.

Yeah, you guys really do know a lot about this. Covering the important things. I wrote down, always this funny question mark. This one is more, right? Like, I'm an early riser myself. There's a lot of dick jokes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I'm not reading into it. I wonder what the count, the dick joke count is in Roger Moore films, like the double entangro. Across his entire career. across all of the all of the Roger Moore. Yeah, his are more like just specifically Dick related as opposed to Connery's.

Yeah, and I've seen a lot of, a lot of kill counts. You know, we have each James Bond's kill count. I see that floating around on the internet quite a bit.

Still the leader, Pierce Brosnan. Really? Yeah. How many was he in? He's in like five, but he kills... No, he did four.

Four. He's in four. I said they'd like five. he does he just has a barrage of killing he uses a lot of automatic weapons when like big movies

were doing that yeah yeah it was also like he was doing a lot of the PG-13 killings where there's no blood and and a couple of his cold openings are him fighting armies too so it's true just a lot of cluttered

I mean in in Dina the Day alone he kills half the North Korean army right and in Tomorrow Never Dies in the beginning and the end he basically takes on an army Yeah. He's great. I can't wait for him to be on the podcast, even though MacGorley does not care for him. You're going to have to explain that to his face. I'm just not a change. I'm just going to start. I'm sure you know this, but he was going to be Bond, but then he chose Remington Steel instead.

That's not true? He was going to be Bond, but NBC chose him instead. They renewed Remington Steel. Oh, he was stuck in the contract. There was a period of time where Remington Steel was just about to be canceled. Then he got the bond part. Then, then, he got the bond part. NBC was like, we got a strike on this beautiful PR we're getting for free. So we're going to renew Remington Steel. Oh, my God. That's like the Tom Selleck, Indiana Jones thing.

Didn't they kind of pull the same thing with him? He got Magnum? Yeah. He already had it, I think, and they wouldn't let him out, I think. Yeah. Have you seen that video of Tom Salick as Indiana Jones? He's great. It's on the Bluroy.

I think he's very good. When he meets... Mariam. Yeah. It's so interesting. It's like seeing Eric Stoltz in back to the film. Yeah. There's a screen test of Sam Neal for James Bond, too.

That's pretty interesting. Oh. Roger Moore wasn't for sure coming back for Octopusy, so they screen tested him. He was good? He does a little boring. He does okay. Yeah. Yeah, okay.

I wonder if they would have changed the script. Probably. Do you know, like make it less. Yeah. Wink, wink, nudge. It would probably been a like transition into the Dalton style, I think. Ugh. Oh.

I also want to say. I would watch a whole movie of Grace Jones just trying to calm down a horse. I found that very compelling. I really was into it. I rewound that so many times because I could not figure it in the long shots. If there's sometimes where she's doing it, there's sometimes there's a stunt person where I'm like, okay, that's a black woman. Okay, that's a white woman in full body, black body. Then that might be a man.

And I could not figure out what was what. So it's anybody's guess. You're just when there was a double when there was not a double. How could you tell them? was a white person. That's actually my question as well, Mancourt. Well, I'll tell you. There's a good reason because at one point her hat and hood falls off and it looks like it didn't mean to and her, the hair looks lighter. Like shit, like it wasn't supposed to be exposed and you could see some lighter hair for one

quick shot. Interesting. I don't know. I'm not saying that's totally the case. Like I don't have the confidence I do with my wig dog. It's not a gloft. No, it's not a gloft. It's a, hey, take a look. Yeah. Okay, let's talk about the... Are we moving part, the horse? Past the horse? I'm still... I mean, we're moving into Horsetown.

Okay, let's move. Are we? I think the horse thing exists solely because they went... We haven't done horses yet in James Bond in any serious. They did a little in Goldfinger, but not like races. Is this the first one credited to Mike Wilson and Albert Broccoli? Is this the first one? Because I noticed they got the double-producing.

producing credit, Albert Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson. I'm not sure. Which makes me wonder, now this was a Richard Maybomb. So they both got to put full stories in? That's what it's like completely unrelated. Yeah, that's what it seemed like to me. Because Michael G. Wilson was doing a lot of script doctoring on these movies while. And more than that.

I mean, he was co-writing them. Yeah. So I feel like the horse thing is Michael G. Wilson. Could be. That's what I'm deciding. I will say with the horse thing, I know we've all. poo-poot it, said it's unnecessary. They did have me on the hook for that because I was genuinely like, how, wait, it's, I was

on board so hard, like, but it's not bread as well. How does it have the juice at the end? What happened? I was like, what is the mystery behind that? You were really into bloodlines? I was on the hook. I just knew everyone was flabbergasted and I was like, I really hope to explain this. And I thought with the explanation, very satisfying with the, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I can see that. I've got no issue with the horse thing. Well, also like, I mean, just to, like, cram the microchip thing into that. I just was like, what? What do you do it? What microchip thing into that? That the microchip was inside the little vial, and that was what released the steroids into it. It was just a simple remote control thing.

You don't need to put the microchips in every damn thing. Yeah, I completely agree. That's how they were trying to connect it. It was so loose and tangential. What does it have to do with the microchip? They're in the horses. The horses had the microchips in them. It was a very long detour.

It was immensely long. It took, how long did it take it? It had to be an hour. It's really like, An hour of the movie had to be the horse. It's definitely the first half of the second act is all horse. Yeah. Until, you know, they.

And also, it's like the worst. We'll get to that. But like, all right. So let's talk about Jenny Flex. Oh. Who's this? Jenny Flex is the lady who, one of, one of Zorn's Hinch women.

Three hench women. Allison Dutie, she's from Last Crusade. Harrison Ford's love interest in Last Crusade. So she just plays people who betrays people? Yeah, that's it. I mean, she's got to run. That was three years after this, right? That wasn't that long.

No, it was a, oh yeah, you're right. It was 89? 89, yeah, so four years. So she's been in with two James Bonds. She was in with Connery and Roger Moore. Yeah. Wow. Okay.

What were we going to say? And Walter Donovan, who played Christos. You can buy, where there's an auction happening in the next day or so, the next couple of days that you can, one of the things you can win, a lot of Donovan's clothes are up for auction as well as Indy's Bullwhip. $32,000. Yeah. And there's. That's how much Indies Bullwhip is. That's the estimate on the auction.

I think it goes for more. Starting. But that's the actual. what they eat is. But not from Raiders, right? One of them. I think it's from last crusade. It's from the crystal skull.

Oh. It's breeding starts at $30. $32. And it's just a green screen whip. But I wanted, but I wanted more out of Jenny Flex. And I wanted more out of the other hench lady. Mm-hmm. They don't get to do much except die.

Her name, which I always thought was the name of the woman with the butterfly and the thing, is Papillon Sousou. And that which means butterfly. But she's not the butterfly woman in the Eiffel Tower. Wait. Wow. Yeah, I know. The Asian lady.

Asian hench woman. Is Papillon? That's her real name. Oh, that's the actor's name. But I thought for sure when I saw that in the credits, I'm like, oh, that's the butterfly woman. And they chose her because she already does this act. In fact, I think I've even said as much with no authority.

That's very funny, though. You would think sometimes things just come together and make sense. Like this one. For instance, I was watching when Harry Met Sally. They do a, they take a dig at Kish. Do you remember?

Oh, real men eat Kish. Huh? Real men eat Kish. What is that? That was the thing that was popular at this time. It was a book. And it was about, it was like the kale of that time,

I think. Because when Harry Met Sally, there's a line that says it's the Kish of the 90s. I remember this. Kish of the 90s. From that, I was like, Oh, Kish must have been like. like a hip new avocado toast type of food in the 80s.

And then they take a dig on, clearly, because he's like, it's just an omelet. You know, like they, so clearly, Kish was like the hip new thing that everybody was doing. And they were like, we're going to puncture this. But it was, it was, yeah, I think it was meant to be like a she, she thing. And so you had to, like, get permission for a man to make Kish just wasn't done. You know, that was the sort of thesis. Well, if anyone's going to give us permission for a man to do anything. That's right.

I'm going to look up this Kish of the 90s quote. And I did no. research because I'm glad you told me about the real men eat kish. 80s. Pesto is the kish of the 80s. What? Pesto is the kish of the 80s. Wait, but the kish thing was in the 80s.

I think it must have been late 70s and then Pesto was the next. But what's interesting is these hip things come and then they do, they don't go away. They get incorporated into normal. Everyday life. Yeah. So the kish is just part of our life. Pesto is just part of our life. I assume kale will be just part of our life.

I don't want that. that to happen. Avocado those? I like kale. I don't like kale. It tastes bitter to me. I like kale chips. Sure.

I like when they're baked and dry and covered in other things. Trity Joe? Do you like those? I haven't had those. Oh, wait. The book is called Real Men Don't Eat Kish. Oh, see, that makes more sense. That makes more sense for the joke.

That's more definitely like, hey, this is like a foofy food and, you know, if you're like a straight, red-blooded American man, you don't eat shit like this. this is for women. By the way, on the cover, there's real men don't eat kish. I know we talked about this last time

we did this movie, but it's important. A guide book to all that is truly masculine, and there's a picture of the seal of the United States, like the eagle with the wings and the emblem, but in its claws are a television, and what looks to be like a boom box or something? Best selling tongue-in-cheek books,

satirizing stereotypes of masculinity. Wow. That's real men don't eat kish? To popularize the term Kish eater referring to a man who is a dilettante A trend chaser

In overanxious Conformist To fashionable forms of love Oh, that's metrosexual We're bringing Right, right Metrosexual used to be Kish eater

I'm going back to that I'm officially going back to that On this podcast Oh God You're a Kish eater I try to be a Kish eater You're definitely a Kish I'm a Kish eater

I'm a proud keysheeter I went through a whole Kish phase Just a couple months ago When I ate it like 3 or 4 times a week I prefer for Frittata because it doesn't have the crust and therefore I don't get the carbs.

See, I should say the irony is I actually do hate Kish. There's something about the texture that feels like soggy bread. Same with Fritatah, I can't eat it. Oh, yeah? So you wouldn't like the suviate egg white bites from Starbucks. No, I don't. You're missing out. Whoa, so those are like super healthy?

I love them. I do love Kish because of the crust. I like the crust. The crust I can do. Yeah, it's the rest of it. It's the egg part you don't like. No. Are you an omelet man?

Sure, I like omelets. So if Roger Moore, More made you a quiche. You'd eat it. Would you eat the whole thing? Yeah. Well, I mean, I eat part of it and then like bronze part of it. What's this bronze pie slice?

Oh, it's a quiche Roger Moore once made for me. Oh, I see why you bronzed it. Thanks for having me over. I did really do it take a dig at quiche though. Yeah. I like that. The Eiffel Tower Chase. Uh-huh.

I think it's one of those very iconic James Bond. things. It was big at the time too because remember Superman too had a big Eiffel Tower action set piece where Lois Lane is trapped on the elevator. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. We were really going to it for a little while there. Camille, have you ever noticed how the thing that pulls down your crawl space is like a tiny Devo hat? Oh, it is. Emily loves Devo. We have Devo action figures.

Is that deliberate? If you pull that, do they come raining down? They're up there. They're warming up. It's a tiny divo, and I can't get over it. What happens at night in here is the tiny divo guy crawls up there, gets his hat, and puts on a little show. It puts on a little show. Matt and! Matt and! Matt and!

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Yeah, he don't know. I should add to my galaxy No I mean it is ridiculous There's no way the real man talks like that I would love to see what the real voice was like I have it written down here My notes that he's a dirty Frenchman

He sure is Can I ask a question? I think this is before it Why does Grace Jones fuck him Just because she's caught snooping around So she has to be like actually I'm just here to fuck you And so they just go through with it You mean when he's in her bed

Yeah to find out more. Because Zoran goes, go, go. But so that's also great acting. That's also great face acting from Christopher Walker. Yeah, because he was like, What the hell? So they both don't want to do it and they do it to get information.

I think baby they both do want to do it. Yeah, they have a good time. Yeah, I think they're both into the idea of like, what's this guy like? What's she like? Yeah. Let's fucking find out. She was so exotic as a child, like just, you know,

she was part of the, that punk scene that I was always a little like, what is this? And now as a grown man, I find myself more and more charmed by her. Yeah, she was very specific. I mean, I'd beg her, Echish. Yeah. I saw her perform a couple years ago, and she was really something. Really? What was she performing music? Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Kind of. Was she a good performer? Good show? Yeah. Yeah, she was great. And Future Islands opened for them. Oh, they're great. Yeah, I love them.

And I said it at the time, but I felt like their whole set was just summoning her. Yeah, because he does, like, just... It's a specific kind of magic. The whole thing's called... It's a specific kind of magic that conjures her. I think this line is also before the Eiffel Tower where he slept well. A little restless, but then I got off eventually. Oh, yeah.

It's a great line. It's a fantastic line. They are pound for pound. delivering, I think, his worst and best's double entendre. You know what? One of his greatest lines is because, oh, I have it written here. You guys continue on and I'll look for it. Okay.

The German doctor's hair lets you know he's evil. And his monocle. Oh, all the evil people really present as evil on first glance. It's really ridiculous. We should talk about the taxi chase. Follow that parachute? I really love the car getting cut in half.

It's so good. Yeah, I thought the car getting cut in half was right. It's incredibly done. It's a real like, I don't think we ever see that in a James Bond movie where the thing that he's riding in gets so torn to shit. It's got to be, and he just keeps going.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a great, it's a cool image. It looked great. It was fun. It was funny. It understood what it was. It was goofy.

The bus jump, too, is amazing. The bus jump's, great and he knocks off all that luggage, which I felt bad for the people inside. Their luggage was just gone on the road. And then I also felt bad for the couple getting married.

Because he jumps on her, he jumps on their cake. But he falls directly on that cake or at least like three quarters of the way on that cake. And he gets up and there is no cake on him. None. He smashes the cake and there is no cake on him.

I did not notice that. That is very annoying. Yeah. There's no continuity there. Also, the guy falling on the cake looks nothing like Roger Moore. And he does such a weird, like almost manic and pose. Yeah, like he just falls straight. I've never seen legs straighter.

Yeah. Than when he's falling through glass onto a cake. Yeah. I know. Congratulations. Very good. Oh, before we, I'm sorry. Sinjin, Smith.

Uh, huh? Sinjin Smyth. Go ahead. Yeah. Sinjin Smyth. But it's St. John Smyth. Right.

They're saying Sincen Smyth. And Jinsman. Yes. Also, why I pick such a cumbersome name? It's so much. It's clearly like, oh, of all these, this is the name that stands up. Don't you want a lame name? I think it's part of his having fun with his cover.

Yeah, it's got to be a British thing that we just aren't as familiar with or something. Shingen Smyth. Like how Jack is a nickname for John or something. Patrick, you think we don't know about that? No, I know we know about that. Oh, you're saying. that that that's our St. And Smith.

So wait. Is it, why is it, are they saying Shingen or St. John? They're saying Singen, I believe. That's the, do you think so that's like Mike to, from Michael? I think, but I don't know. You're saying. It's my guess. It says St. John Smyth.

Yeah, yeah. Also, he says, is this a joke they do always when they're like he's going as does he, where he says the name's Sinjyn Smyth. James Singen Smyth. Like, did it, that job. They don't, no. Yeah. That's ridiculous.

They don't know. He doesn't always use that name. No, I know, but he's referencing that. He's referencing that. Yes. That's not a joke that they do. But also, by this logic, and diamonds are forever, shouldn't the leading lady be credited as Jill Sinjin?

Right. Yeah. Jill Sinjin. Jill St. John. Maybe she was like, you know, like, my friend Thomas Middle Ditch is like, it's Thomas, it's not Tom, it's not Tom, it's not Tom. Maybe she's like, it's not Sinjin.

It's St. Oh. Some people don't like it. Like some people are Matthews, you know. Not us. Yeah, no. No. We don't care for it.

But I'm also like, if you call me Matthew, I'm not going to, I answer to it. Do you think that Matt Perry and Matthew LeBlanc, or maybe I flipped that? I did flip that. Matthew Perry and Matt LeBlanc. Yeah. Do you think they were like, okay, we got to figure out who's who here. Oh, yeah. One of us is going to be Matthew.

One of us is going to be Mattie? Yes. But we kind of call each other Maddie. Yeah. Yeah. That's just our pet name. Is it? weird to be friends with someone who has the same name as you?

I don't have that experience. Well, we're not friends. Okay. We're a professional. Or host a podcast. That is weird. That is odd. No, because I grew up with so many mats that it's so common for a generation.

It's just not weird to call someone your name and someone else responds. I just don't have that experience. Right. Between 1975 and 1985, 40% of American boys were named Matthew. And Kumil. Yeah, I got to meet him. Is Kumil common in Pakistan at all? It's not common in Pakistan.

I'd met one Kamel in my life in Pakistan. And then I haven't met, in my entire life I've met one Kamal. Did your parents get it from the line? Was there a Kumal in like your great-grandfather? No, it's a very religious. It's like a deep-cut religious, specifically Shia name. So like if I was named Lazarus or something, that would be like the analog for today? Well, Lazarus is still...

That's worked its way in department. popular culture. It would have to be like... Engel Ramos. Yes. What? Engel Ramos. Yes.

Who's that? That's the farthest back we can trace the goarly lineage to a guy named Engel Ramos. Engel Ramos Gourley. Not... It sounds like ignorant. I know. You can say it.

It's okay. Well, Camel has now become more common, not because of me, but like when my family did it, it sort of was a way of being like, we're Shia. Yeah. We're not Sunni. because no Sunnis will have that name. Oh, I see. And I think from that,

sort of like trying to reclaim an identity, it sort of becomes slightly more common. It's still not a common name. But I will say this, when I was in like the sixth or seventh grade, there was a new brand of condensed milk that came out. It was called Kumal, but spelled C-O-M-E-L-E.

And the tagline, it was in Urdu, but it would be like, thick sweet so far this checks out it was like the single I'm trying to

malaydar creamy yes it would be like yeah Kumal thick sweet creamy milk that was a real nightmare

from people did they really wanted my was there a jingle was there an Erdu jingle no it was like they would always just say gara

meita malaydar dude and people will be like yelling that at me across the street hey can have your thick sweet creamy milk oh man real nightmare did they know that was come huh did they know that that was yeah i think we all the problem with that though is what if there was someone that really wanted your thick sweet creamy milk and you wouldn't act on it

i would think that if someone actually wanted it they would find a different way to communicate it to me then yelling at me across the playground i'm just saying statistically it's possible in a very derogatory manner well i think i might have missed one out of So naming you, Kumail, was like the keesh or avocado toast of his day. Yes. Oh, it was a swing. Out of all my, like, my brother has a much more common name.

So I think they were like, they got me. And then they were like, oh, this one's a total fucking little weirdo. So let's go to a more normal name. My parents have very common names. Most of my cousins have pretty common names. Well, then why you? Why did you get that? I don't know.

They were. Does the, is it common? Is it, you know, because baseball has all of. these terms and I wonder if cricket shares any of them where like you're trying to hit a home run or a sixer as they say do you swing for the fences is that a thing that people say no i i haven't heard that okay no well your parents swung for the fences yeah they swung for the fences they were going for a sixer and they you know but instead they got a sticky week it come on dude that doesn't make sense.

And I think you know it. There is a scene in The Big Sick where you're explaining cricket on a board, which is something you did to me when we were working on, remember Jonah's video game pilot? Yeah. You got up at the whiteboard and essentially wrote the same exact things trying to explain cricket to me. I can explain cricket to you in 20 minutes, but you really have to forget baseball. 20 minutes.

Well, I've never learned baseball, so this sounds good to me. 20 minutes. Well, that's a pretty big in-depth explanation. because I think people are always just like still trying to transpose it to baseball. Right. You really, there are similarities. I won't have that problem. Did you know in Casino Royale there's a whole deleted scene at a cricket match?

No. That whole opening scene with a fight in the bathroom is at a cricket field. Really? Oh. He's kind of like stalking that guy through the bleachers of a cricket match. Oh my God. We would have been even longer? What's funny is that, you know, all the terms of, like you say, sticky wicket, because it sounds funny.

There are so many funny, like Yorker, Googly, silly made-on, silly made-off. These are actual legit. Silly? Silly made-on. That means closer. Like, Medon is a little further away. But they don't mean silly like goofy. No.

Silly madon is closer. They don't even make the connection. So like long-on is far away. It's a fielding position. Long-on is far away. If it's a straight line to the batter, it's like right by the boundary, right by the wall, the home run wall. That's long on.

Then that straight line a little bit closer. is mid-on, and then that same line, super-close, is Silly M-on. My question is, why do they need names for these shifts, these defensive shifts? Do they... Well, you got 20 minutes? Do they have to call them out? Do they have to announce them? No, but someone, you know, if the captain sets the field and they change the field,

so in baseball is pretty much the same, and cricket does, like, many different variation. So they can just be like... You think it's... Long-on, Silly Miron. See, that's a non-baseball person, watching baseball right there. There are many defensive shifts in baseball. They'll even... Yeah, but they'll get closer or further away.

They'll even move all of the players over to one side of the diamond. But that doesn't happen often. Doesn't happen often, but can. Yeah, but in cricket, that happens often. You can also get people super close. So, like, you can get a... Like, here, there's a catcher, but no other field is really close, you know, generally. In cricket, you can have, like, people super close to you.

Do they worry about the ball hitting them in the head? Yeah, it's a very hard ball. Yeah. People will wear helmets when they field up close. Yeah. I don't care for this. I love this cricket discussion, though. I don't care for getting hit in the head of the hard ball.

No, no, no, no. Okay. So in the, we get Patrick McMay, who narrates, if you, Kamel, you might not know this, but there's a series of documentaries they put on all of the laser discs that were then transferred over to the DVDs. Now the Blu-rays, there are documentaries about each James Bond movie, and Patrick McMee does the narrating. For all of them. He plays Tibbet.

Yeah. Sir Godfrey. Sir Godfrey, who is Tibbitt. This is the first time I put it together. The driver of the rolls. And he was treated like that. Yes, that's amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. He drives the rolls, Royce. He's James Bond's cover driver. His valet. The guy was like, well, he'll get my bags. Like that guy. Yeah. And he was...

Timit, stop wheezing. Yeah. And I like that they had to record, like, scripted fights. Yeah. To, like, leave right under the... It's really spectacular. Kumail might not remember this, but the British series, The Avengers.

Yeah. That's, he's, he's one of the Avengers. Oh, wow. Yeah. He's like, when he was much younger. Him and Emma Peel, him and Tracy Bond. That's right. Diana Rig.

Diana Rig. They were the Avengers. I did not know Diana Riggs from that. I know her from Game of Thrones. Yeah. And I was like, this is, you know those older British actors who can, like, do everything and work in all different modes? Like Jeffrey.

Rush or somebody you're like, you can do everything. Because that's all they do. Jeffrey Rush would be a good bond villain. They can do... Oh,

it would be a great bond villain. Classically trained like British stage actors can do that thing which not a lot of American actors can do, which is they can be really over the top

and still believable. Like they can really swing for this. They can really go for a sixer but still feel real and not feel over the top. Is that a term? Go for a sixer? No.

I want it to be a term. Speak dinosaur. a Riggs language. But I love him in this movie. I think he's fantastic. He's wonderful. It's very funny. I love the Rolls Royce.

When I put it together, he's an actual sir, and then to think he's just killed in a cheap gas station car wash, it's all the more tragic. I like that he went to a car wash. Like he had his cover story and still did it and went to the car. Yeah. That is a very good point. That is a bit. His cover story was I'll go to a car wash. But because he did dirty the car.

If it was dirty, yeah. But also it's like, why not go do that thing first, you know, where you're trying to notify M and get word out, then go to the car. Right. Because you're going to get the car dirty on the way back probably. It's like when I'm going to Starbucks and I need to stop at 7-Eleven. Yeah, what are you doing? Wait, those are too similar. Pick a different thing.

Oh, but that's my day every day. But it's also more important to get that message out. Yeah. He should have done that first. Also, Maydays everywhere she needs to be. So she's in the room or coming to the room when Bond is there. She makes love, gets out of her clothes instantly. Yeah.

She gets out of her leotard instantly, too. That is in Bond's room, right? It's her room. It's her room. It's her room. I thought it was his room. But then she's also the gatekeeper when Tibbitt is leaving. Yes.

I'm sure she's waiting for him because she knows she's going to take care of him, but it does seem weird that she's just ever. I think in many ways it makes her the most formidable henchman. In James Bond history. Yeah, I think she's one of the better ones. Do they generally turn at the end? No. No, just Jaws and her?

Jaws and her. Yeah, are there any others? There might be some. We're lovers, not experts. Yeah. Oh, that's good. That's a good way to say it. I should have said that one.

I had my X-Files podcast. Would have saved me a ton of grief. Oh, I'm so angry. You hear it from the people, don't you? Yeah, you hear it from the people. When you tackle a popular franchise, hear from the people. You hear and ex-files fans are lovers and experts. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what we started this season by reminding everyone, don't get mad at us if we get something wrong

canonically. We just, we love the franchise. We're not experts in the franchise. And if you know the truth, then it's not, who's it hurting? Right. You already know. Yeah, you're fine. You're fine. And if you don't know, you don't know. You should say the truth is out there. I don't have it, but the truth is out there. Did you ever get through all of those? No. Well, it got weird. Well, we got busy with the movie. The Big Sick, it's in theaters right now. Back out on Wide Release, right?

Yeah, it's back out on wide release this weekend. Trying to take down the Bodyguard that movie? The Bodyguard's Bodyguard's Bodyguard? The Bodyguard is Bodyguard's? My God. That movie was number one. Three weeks in a row. We were like 9 million unlavered a weekend.

It's crazy. I don't even know what movie that is. That's the hitman's bodyguard. Oh, that one. Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. Sam Jackson. I went to Whitney who's in Kevin Costner.

Then I went to that Matt Dillon, Chris Makepeace deal from the late 70s. You guys remember that one? Nope. No. We don't. You remember that? Camel was born somewhere else and I just didn't care.

Look it up. It's a goodie. Of course, I haven't seen it in 30 years, so. Yeah. But it's the big sick is back in theaters and it's on iTunes. We're actually, I don't know if I'm hard to say this. It's coming on iTunes very soon, but they're trying to push the release date because it didn't think it would still be playing in theaters.

And so, I don't know. Honestly, I think it's worth seeing in the theater. It's fun to laugh with people. And it's fun to hear sobbing from other parts of the theater. Community. It's a beautiful, beautiful movie. Thank you, man. You're very welcome.

Now, back to this, we're in Horsetown, right? I want to talk a little bit about the German doctor. So when he is saying that he's not a doctor of medicine, he's lying, right? Because he's clearly a doctor of medicine. does he literally have a doctorate in medicine? Well, he says he has a PhD, right? Right. Do you think it's in medicine?

Well, it's not in medicine, but it is like genetic engineering and stuff. Which I feel like you have to be a doctor for. Also, are Nazi doctorate's transferable? Yeah, can they write a prescription? It could be... I need some Xanax. It could be like when someone

immigrates here from anywhere and has to go back to fucking... That's my dad. Did he have to go to medical? He had to do. Genetically engineered? Yeah. Yeah.

My dad was a Nazi doctor. Oh, that's weird. It was a real tough thing. That's crazy. Yeah, he's super old. But now he's back in demand. He's back. He's got a whole young following that.

No, my dad was a doctor in Pakistan when he came here. You don't have to go to medical school again, but you have to take the exam, the USML. The exam you take at the end and you have to do your residency again. Okay. That's another, what, two years? Three years residency. and then the studying for the exam and, you know, everything's... But he didn't have to study, right?

He had it all. No, he said that a lot of medicine has changed. Like, they just know so much more now than they did. Like, you know, he took his, it was in his 50s and he'd done it in his 20s. So like 30 years later, all the textbooks are completely different. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow.

He was like, you know, using leeches and shit. Double doctor. Yeah, he was giving abortions by having them pour sour milk, under a tree of the full moon. I thought it was Coca-Cola. Camale milk? Sour camille milk. There were some confusing nights, but...

The only thing I know about this doctor is his eyebrows are like awnings. They are incredible. Do you think... Here's my question. Do you think that he had this hair when he auditioned? I think that's what got him the part. A serious question. Like, do you think that they were like...

Probably. Probably. He probably plays this kind of thing a lot. This hair. Let's keep this for this role. He probably plays this kind of thing, I would imagine. Though I don't feel like I've ever seen him in anything, but we should look up. Does he essentially created Max Zorn, right?

Yeah. That's where, it's his baby. They have like a bit of a father-son relationship. Yeah, when he's dying. He's the only one that he shows affection. Yeah. He taps his hat. And he's screaming at him from the blimp.

Max, Max. Yeah. It's sort of sweet in a way. Also, don't understand his plan with the dynamite. What is he going to do with the diamond? Did he just carry dynamite around? Like he's intending not exploding exactly when it's midair where Bond is, because it ain't going to stick on anything.

No, it's not a sticky grenade. It's quite possibly the worst plan I've ever seen. It is a comical, like if a child drew a stick of dynamite, it would be that. It's like an old-school cat. And of course they have to fumble with it, you know. It gets lit and dropped. Yeah. It's ridiculous.

Okay. So, German doctor, great. The horse. I will say the horse auction looked appealing to me. I love any auction scene. I liked the whole huge stuffed horses. Like you could walk, you walk by all those. They weren't statues.

They were just stuffed horses. Taxidermied horses. Which makes me think, maybe I want a taxidermied horse. Weird thing. How much does that goat for? I don't know. I'll do one cheap if you want one. Oh, you'll actually make the taxidiv.

Get me a horse. I'll do that too. I've thought about getting. my dog taxidermy after he passes. Now, okay, how do we feel about this? I have real confliction about this, because we've talked about this for our dumb cat, and immediately I'm like, no, because they always turn out to be emaciated, bizarre versions of themselves that don't age well, and you're going to be reminded of a ghoulish version of

the pet you love. I don't want to stuff my cat. My wife, however. You want to stuff bagel? Yeah. You want to stuff her with some of your kumail? Marty. Stop it.

I just scolded you with my wife's nickname reflexively before even thinking that. Oh, that's what you call her? They call each other, Marty. For some reason, I still don't fully understand why. It was in her wedding speech. Yeah, she said once, you look like a Marty. And so I started calling her that out of like a nickname revenge. And it's just stuck.

But I didn't even think, and I just scolded you like we were joking. That's how much happened. That's how close we are. So much is going on. I like the tough horses, do? I don't like stuffing animals. I think it's fucking weird. If it's like some cool animal that I don't know.

You'll never see you again, dies of natural causes. Let's get it stuff. I don't want my cats. No prior relationships. No prior relationship. So Amanda wants... No, I think we both arrived at the same. Cloning was a different story.

Cloning is absolutely a different story. Dore and I have discussed this too and the fact that I've discussed the fact that I would like to clone Bo. I have no ethical... I was saying yesterday on... on the podcast video of my wife, I was saying that I would like to get bow cloned, have the clone puppy born so that the clone puppy can be in there when the older bow gets put down. Oh, Jesus.

And then it would just be a cycle. It would be like a transporter. Yeah. You know, because when you're transported in Star Trek, the dirty secret of all of it is, you're dead. Yeah, you're getting cloned. You get killed and then you rematerialize on the transporter pad. But your memories are intact. Everything's intact.

All the synapses and everything are there. Well, aren't you doing that every second? seven years anyway with just your... With Ponfar? No. Cellular... Yeah, regeneration. Sir, yeah, I guess.

But so I want to just keep a steady stream of bows. I also want to see how Beau would react to puppy bow. I was pro-cloning Margot simply because we could then raise her from a kitten, which we didn't get the chance to do. And there might be a shot at her having some semblance of a decent personality. Are there...

Are they cloning animals? No, they don't do it in... I don't know about dogs, but... United States. But you can get it done. Other places? Yeah. Yeah, but I think it's not very successful and you're not even guaranteed to get your

animal back. We got to use up a lot of the existing animal. The clone is 90% this one. What if they just send you back? It's all we got left is a tape. Totally separate cat going. Yeah. I mean, we really nailed some recessive genes on this one.

Oh, my God. This is a badger. I'm going to look into it. But I feel like within 10 years, you know. Oh, my God. We're going to be cloning everything. If Bo makes it to 13 or 14, I feel like we're going to make it to that. We'll get them cloned.

Yeah. Well, join us in 10 years when we do our Stitcher podcast. Our Stitcher podcast, too fast and very hungry. All right. I want to see the scene where Bond comes out of the lake after breathing from the tire and has to walk home. So crazy. That's not seen. The next time we.

see him after he's underwater breathing air from a Michelin tire. That is one of the scenes that I remember when I was watching it I was like oh I guess I've seen this one because I remember this little flash. Yeah. Well you just need to know what to do in case of you going underwater with a car and you can't resurface because the villains are outside still. It's good to have that knowledge in your head that you can breathe out of a tire. But it is so weird to me that they just flashed to him in San Francisco.

Yeah, I think they don't want to show that undignified version of James Bond. And we don't want to see it. Maybe they just feel like, oh, when he's soggy, he looks every bit of 57. Yeah, probably. He's 57 sopping wet. So we also meet the Bond Girl of this movie at the Chateau. Yeah, Tracy Sutton, or what's her real name? Tony Roberts.

Tony Roberts. who is a third plot to this movie. Right. Second tier Charlie's Angel, right? Was she in the second wave or even the third? Yeah, maybe. Is she American? I think so, yeah.

And Beast Master. She was in Beast Master. Oh, she's Beast Masters, lady. I have her autographs from the James Bond card set when I bought a bunch of cards. So you didn't meet her. Hers was one of the... No, no, no. I definitely googed her.

Yeah. Yeah, why not googs? Yesterday, googged her to see what's going on. I remember that was one my dad always would say, like, oh, yeah, Tony Roberts, huh? You know, she for some reason really stuck out with him. What was your relationship with your dad? We were swingers together. Oh, cool.

Get over here, Maddie. Oh, my God. Are we at the presentation? Well, yeah, because I have something to say about that. Of course. I like the jar of sand. I don't know what you. I like that.

A jar of sand. What are you going to use it for? I'm just going to sift it in my fingers. And then that'll be that. But it has got to be clean. I like that. I might also keep some Star Trek earworms in there. Yeah.

Star Trek earworms. This sequence is not a one-two punch. It's a one, two, three, four punch. Because it begins with this great demonstration, followed by one of the best assassinations in a Bond movie. Yes. Turn a metal staircase into a slide from a blizzard. limp. Yeah. And this guy comes flying out. Then it's followed by, and I never noticed this before,

May Day putting on her sunglasses, which are asymmetrical ovals. Did you notice that? One is vertical and one is horizontal. No, I did not notice that. Which is then followed by a great pun, with Christopher Watkin saying that he had to drop out. Yeah. And then it's ended by use of the title, what of you, of you to a kill. I mean, if that isn't a stunning two minutes of American. I mean, it's quite a sequence in cinema. It really is. Also, but I just want to know what happens to that blimp. Don't we see it at the end? No, that's not the same blimp.

That's a very small blimp. Is it? Wait, what? I think they're meant to be the same blimp. No. No way. Is it the same coloring? Yeah.

The external blimpy part, but I'm talking about the undercarriage of the blimp. Oh, but they were in the, right. I think that's above that. Disagree. Disagree. I think they're two completely different blimpers. Well, I think, like, technically. Yeah, you're right.

No, no, I think story-wise even. You think they intend that to be two different ways? Yeah, because one's a hidden blimp inside of a shack. Yeah. Right? Right. Oh, you're right. And the other blimp is this giant blimp that has a conference room and multiple levels.

Okay, I think you're right. So he has like a business blimp and like a fun blimp and a fun blimp and a hidden blimp. Yeah. He's got a multiple blimp situation. I do love the idea of like, yeah, let's bring blimps back for me. Yeah. Yeah, and let's have a bunch of different kinds. Yeah.

How fast can. a blimp go. Not. Not fast. One not. Well, then one not. What was that trip like from fucking Germany to New York? Oh, the Hindenburg?

You know, other blimps. Not great. Other blimps have made it further, yes. But also, clearly that that thing goes fast enough for them to sneak up on Tracy in the end and snatch her. Yes. I mean, that's preposterous. Yeah.

Everything else in this movie checks out completely. Other than that. Yeah. just snatch her up. You guys talk about it. I gotta pee. All right. So,

Kamel, watching this movie again, well, not again, but watching this movie for the first time through adult eyes.

Did you, did you think to yourself if this is what James Bond is always like, I'm going to go back and watch all these Roger Moore movies, or did you go like,

I get it? No, it made me want to watch the best five. Oh. Like, I actually emailed my friend who's a big,

big James Bond fan, not you. Well, this is weird. why wouldn't you email me? Well, because I didn't want to talk to you about it until the podcast. Oh, I was texting my... This is...

I feel a little betrayed here. No, no, no, no. I didn't... I purposefully did not text you about this. Because if I was like, what are the best 5X files episodes? I wouldn't text somebody else. Well, this is just feels... I just didn't want to hear your opinion on this one.

I see. I just... I didn't Google it. I just wanted to go in completely clean. Did your friend text you back to the five best? No, but I... But as I was watching this one, I was like, I'm watching Voodoo or Kill what's going on. And he said it was a series low.

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. But I disagree. Oh, I mean, filmmaking-wise, yes. Yeah, no, it's super fun. But I want to see like the five. It made me want to see the five best ones. That I would love to get you that list.

What is that list? Well, it's not to get controversial. Casino Royale. Okay. See that one. It's gold. Finger. Okay. From Russia with

Love. Really? Yeah. Well, now, here's he's asking for the five best James Bond movies because I was asking him what this movie made him want to do and he said that he wanted to see the best five James Bond movies. So I was trying to give him the list and then I'm after I got Casino Royale, Goldfinger,

and from Russia with Love, I then started to go, well, I'd throw Vue to a Kill in here, but it's not one of the best. it's just one of the more fun to watch. That's fair. You've got to represent the whole series. Honor Maddoge's Secret Service. Yeah. Maybe a live and let die.

You might want to put living daylights in the way. Should we just give him one? We'll give you one from each bond. Okay. How does that work for you? Yeah. Living daylights, obviously. From, yeah. From Timothy Dalton gets the living daylights.

Best or at least the most representative of each actor. Yeah. Okay. So Connery. Sean Connery gets Goldfinger. Yeah. Goldfinger has to be the one because that's like really, that becomes the template for all James Bond movies that come after that.

Lazy's Be, on a Magic's Secret Service. He came out of the box, hit a Sixer and left. He did one. Yeah, he did one, one and done, but it's a great one. It's a long story, but he thought the, like, counterculture was taking over and he didn't want to play a stiff. Really? Yeah, that's his one on it.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Wow, so what was that, like 60s? That was 69. Okay, wow. Okay, the hippies were coming in. Yeah, he was like, I can't play this guy in a suit.

Yeah, that's very funny. He wouldn't shave his beard from the premiere, and they got all upset with him. Wow. He, yeah, yeah, really worked out for him. And then as far as Roger Moore goes, you've already seen View to a Kill, so I feel like we get a freebie. We can give him another Roger Moore. I'd say live and let die. A lot of other people would say spy who loved me.

Yeah. You know, I'll say live and let die as well. So you're living, let die from Roger Moore. He's only 45 in that one. Yeah, he was my James Bond in the sense that when I first started watching James Bond movies when I was a kid. It was me too. The new ones were all Roger Moore. So he was my first James Bond.

Yeah, and from Pierce Brosnan, there's going to be some disagreement from myself and Matt on this because I enjoy Pierce Brosden a lot more than Matt does. That's not to say he doesn't enjoy you, Mr. Brosnan. We'll see you on the podcast. But tomorrow never dies for me. Golden Eye. It's the gold finger of the Braznan era. Disagree. Everybody thinks it's the best. Don't listen to him. Okay. All right. I won't.

It's tomorrow and everyone. GoldenEye. Okay. You don't want to see Terry Hatcher in a Bond movie? I mean, I could take it or leave it. Wouldn't you rather see Famke Yonson and Isabel Shrup? Is that Zia on top? Yeah. Is that who that is? Would you? Yes, you got Sean Bean.

I've seen all of them. All of these, but I don't remember. Like, I know GoldenEye. Who's the baddie? Sean Bean. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You know, like Jonathan Price is the bad guy? I do like Jonathan Price. I mean, come on.

Okay. Yeah, it's tricky. All right. One of my favorite lines in this movie was, maybe this is later, but a bubble stickle my chikovsky. Yeah. I really thought that was a... Chikovsky. I looked at their music, too.

They've got... Cossette tapes of Chikovsky, what I think is Art Garfunkel, and then some vaguely Asian music from the Orient. That's their playlist. Was it called music from the Orient? Probably. Oh, we did not talk about the computer scene. Yes.

Where the, he's putting in the facial images of James Bond. His reactions to that are so good. So good. He's getting happy. He's getting excited that this guy's a license to kill. He's like, oh, he's getting like turned on. I think he feels like, oh, they sent this guy after me.

I feel great. I'm very important. a great and he like have them look around like oh look over there oh look over here i love it yeah and i really think christopher walkin is so delightful and i also love the graphic license to kill that comes up yes yeah that would be a good desktop oh that would be a good desk that screen okay so we got to san francisco and and i have a real problem with this and i don't remember if we talked about it the last time we talked about view to a kill so you've talked about view to a kill we did a crossover episode with how did this get made where we did a live one at Largo.

I see, I see, I see. So, this is our, actually, this is our first official James Bonding. That's right. View to a Kill. Yeah. But the fact that the code language in San Francisco is for the guy to ask if he is looking for anything special. Is, good, do you have any soft shell crabs? Which is something

What if somebody wants Anyone could say? I wrote that down. Do people not ask for soft shell crabs? Like it's crazy. But you guys didn't see the sign. Wuhan's hard shell crabs only. Only hard shell crabs.

Yeah. So I just feel like there has to be I feel like 20 times a week. Yeah. This guy is showing his CIA badge to a stranger. I just want soft shell crabs. Why do I go to walk with you?

I didn't do it. anything. Why are you showing me this? Okay. So I want to ask for soft shell crap. Jesus. Yeah. Exactly. Does he put English on it? Does he go like, can I have some soft shell crabs?

His backup one? He's like doing his eyebrows. It's just high. Yeah. That guy is showing a CIA badge to every fucking person. It's a ridiculous. It's, okay. The bubbles took of my Tchaikovsky.

And I like how the head of the KGB waits downstairs for her to finish blowing 007. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The head of the KGB is downstairs in a car waiting to play a tape. That's right. But then he gives her a little flirty thing when she gets in. Oh, yeah, of course. Oh, Dave got

nothing going too. Yeah, I think so. Was there something I heard about this, or am I making this up that this was at some point meant to be obvious character, Barbara Bach? They were going to bring her back from Spy Who Loved me. That would have been great. I know. I'm going to use the restroom, too. Okay. Matt and I will

talk about how wonderful this movie is. Yeah. You know, when they go to her house and those guys attack, this is along the lines of no cake on Bond when he falls through the thing. She keeps talking about her granddad's ashes, and there's no ashes in there. It's very annoying. Why? I don't know.

I feel like it might have been a choice for the stuntmen not to get ashes in their eyes. It would have been cinematically. It would have been great. It would have been very exciting. I liked how there was rock salt loaded into the shotgun. But look at how the painting of her granddad looks like Powers Booth. The painting of her granddad looks like she bought it on the wharf. Yeah, it doesn't look like.

It's not a good painting. There's a painting in Zorren's office that looks like Ted Cruz, too. It is weird to see the wharf exactly the same. Like the Guinness Museum is still there. Oh, really? The wharf souvenir shop is still over the shoulder. older right there. It's fascinating to me how those places are still in existence.

Yeah, San Francisco doesn't change much. We've never been to Sketchfest at the same time. No, you're always like a weekend before or after. So if we can arrange doing it on the same weekend, you and I should take a view to a kill tour of San Francisco. We should just do James Bonding up there. Well, I mean, if you think we should do James Bonding up there, please tweet at SF Sketch Fest. Although I can't make

Sketch Fest this year, so it's already a move forward. Oh, forget it. But I'd love to do it next year. Why can't you plans. You have so many plans. You have so many plans that go against the fiber of our being. I'm sorry. Sketchfest is nine weekends long and you're gone for all of them. It's not actually nine. It's like five weekends. Yeah. Anyway, long story. This is insane. I'm going to get to the bottom of this off air, kids.

We're going to find out why Matt Gourley is abandoning you. I'll never tell you. I'll be disappointed that it's not a scandalous reason. God, I hope it's scandalous. Okay, so, you know what, we can still do a show in San Francisco when I'm on hiatus. We have talked about going on a little mini tour, and I think I might be up for that. There were three or four people that were interested in us going to UK. I saw that. There were three or four people that were like, yeah, come.

We can play in their living room. Besides London, where would be the best city in the States to go that you could also do a lot of sightseeing bond-wise? Bond-related sightseeing would have to be San Francisco, Las Vegas. or New York. Or New Orleans. There's not a ton of New York, just the Harlem stuff. I feel like that's great.

Do you remember when I went to, when I went on Google Maps, street view, and found the exact corner that he was standing on and showed you the picture of both of them? Yeah, that's right. It's one of my best detective work I've ever done.

Crowning achievements. So where are we now? We're talking about the women's lib joke? No, we're talking about San Francisco. Okay. And how it hasn't changed and that this Guinness Book of World Records Museum is still right where that is.

Really? Yeah. And then we were talking about Tanya Roberts's house. And how her urn with her granddad has no ashes in it. Yeah, and she, like, dusts her hand or something? Yeah. But there's nothing. Nothing on the floor.

Yeah. Nothing anywhere. He says, sorry, Granddad. Yeah. Loved a good fight. Maybe he was a ghost. I do, but I was saying to man, I do really like the... They never found his body.

He was blessed at sea. I like James Bond taking the shotgun and going to work on people. Yeah, with Rock Salt. He thought it was real. He was, like, going to fucking blast people. Yeah, he was going to blow people's heads off. Yeah. See, that's why, you know, who was it?

Who has the much bigger kill count? Oh, Pierce Roslin. He's using real guns. This is the difference. Back then, they didn't want to be like, oh, we don't want to just, like, murder five people suddenly. So it's like, oh, it's Rock Salt. But I did like that, though, because at first I forgot that that was the case. And I was like, why is this guy still moving after the shotgun blast?

Yeah. And then when I found out it was Roxas... I do like how he's like, what's this loaded with? She's like, Rocksalt. He still keeps using it. What a strange thing, because I think my dad had a Rocksout shotgun ready to go, too. Like, it's just a weird thing. I don't want to kill anybody, but I do want to shoot a Home Invader.

You know what other movie has it? What? Kill Bill. One of the Kill Bill's has it. He, uh, Michael, Michael, and shoots her with rock salt before he buries are alive. And it hurts.

Jeez. Yeah, it looks like it hurts a lot. Yeah. She's a mess. She's not dead, but she's a mess. Kill Bill. I think that's such a great couple of movies.

I want to throw some credit at Roger Moore here. He's recently passed. He deserves a little bit. We always talk about how Zoran is such a good actor in this, Christopher Walken. This is why Moore works for me and Broson sometimes is an issue for me.

In the scene when they're in the city hall office and Zorn shoots that city planner guy. Oh, yeah. More gets really serious, which in this movie that is so crazy and wacky, it's hard to go from tone to tone, but he really underplays it where I think Brosnan gets a little melodramatic

and he really plays up the drama. Moore, I feel like, just knows that he doesn't need to add any sauce to it. He just plays it straight and simple and I actually, it feels right. I don't know. Something, I like it. I like it when it's serious.

Yeah, I noticed that moment too. I like that. Did you dislike or like the sharper image credit card? I think it's of the time and it fits very well. It's very, very real men don't eat keesh. What did you think of the curly toupee on the chain thug? Was your wigdar? Chain thug?

The guy that's wielding the chain. Are you guys a wigdar people? Oh, he's the inventor of wigdar. Oh, oh, yes. Yeah. It's, I mean, that's basically a helmet with hair on it. Because he gets hit with the urn, too, and it feels very on purpose. That hair is like that guy in Sopranos that ends up being like the secondary villain and Billy Bats and Goodfellas.

Like, it's just ridiculous hair. Did you notice the Molotov cocktail that Zoran uses? I mean, I saw them both. I don't know if this is technically a gloft, but it's Bacardi rum. Oh, like he's going tropical with his Molotov cocktails. Okay. Nice. Do you think Bacardi had a, had a buy with that?

Definitely. Okay. We want to be the new face of revolutionary vandalism. I wrote down that the acting from Tanya Roberts, I cannot tell if it's the worst acting I've ever seen. or perfect acting. I know what side of the fence I fall on. Are you talking about a specific scene? I'm talking about in the house

when she's talking about while she's gone through with Zorn and the $5 million check. For me, that scene, I could not, my brain couldn't process her acting. I thought, that's why I asked, is she American? Because sometimes she speaks

in a way that, you know, sometimes you're like, I don't know, this is a foreigner or bad at acting? And I don't mean that it's not a dig at foreigners. I'm a foreigner. I just mean sometimes you have people who don't have English as a first language, and when they're speaking in English, you could see like, oh, there's some words that aren't fully connecting in the way that an American actor would connect with them,

but it's actually more interesting. Right. And I like that. Like, you know, like Mads Mikkelson, I think it's part of what's compelling about him is that English is not his first language so he's like saying things slightly weirdly emphasizing different words. I noticed that with her where I was like she's saying

things weird and I can't quite figure out what's going on. Either Tanya Roberts was terrible at acting or she is her generation Christoph Waltz. It's one or the other. I will offer a third solution that most of her stuff is ADR. There's a lot of ADR in this movie and that you're ever going to get a... Do you think that's because they like

what's happening on set in a James Bond movie where they have to use so much ADR? I don't know. Well, in the early days... Is there constantly, like, a gas generator power in the lights? Like, what is it that is making all of this ADR happen? Well, a lot of times you'll see in movies that there's one scene that has a lot of ADR and clearly they didn't mic one person right that day.

So, like, that'll happen. That happens all the time. Especially in her scenes where she's going, James, you know, that's clearly ADR'd and it doesn't fit with what her face is doing. Same with Auburjean. It's just, it's just something's off-kilter, and that may be what you're experiencing. I feel like it's not exactly her fault. My favorite ADR joke is with her when she's wearing heels,

and he says the women's lip line, you know, like women's lip, they're taking over the teamsters. That is such an 80s line. Yeah, yeah. Such an 80s line. 80s line. 80s line. 80s.

80s are the last. They want to vote next. They can already vote. Well, then what are they complaining about? I sort of hold scene. What do you think of the killing of Lee? I think it's sad. I like that guy.

He gets killed in everything we talked about this last time, but he plays Indy's sidekick and Temple of Doom in that opening scene, Wuhan, and he gets kind of killed and dispatched in a way that feels sad, too. Yeah. There's just some people who, like I was watching Close Encounters yesterday, and I just saw Tootsie,

and I was like, Oh, Terrigar was just the woman that people were leaving or not seeing under the very noses. Yeah, Tootsey, yeah. Yeah. With Tootsie, it's like, you should be with Terry Gar. Yeah. You're being insane.

She's the best. It took a Mr. Mom for her. to be fully appreciated as a wife and partner and breadwinner. That's true. Worst delivery of a line than James Bond movie, I believe, is I still have my security badge. The way she delivers that.

I still have my security badge. Like where she, no, no, it's not, you're giving it something that she didn't give it. What is she doing? It's more of a, well, the things are in the office. I still have my security badge. See, it's ADR, I'm sure. That's, I'm sure. A's D.

That's what it is. What I'm blown away by, I didn't ever caught this before, the cutaway scenes of the man fishing in the boat. He's, and then... The man just enjoying his time on a lake. After everything, that lake is drained. No. I made that up. He got to be in here.

I didn't catch him as far. I didn't catch him either. Then that lake is drained. Is that just something tidally that happens? Because that is a full body of water. that they somehow managed without special effects to drain. I don't know if it's like a reservoir or something that they were able to shoot on that they could really drain that. That was incredible.

Could have been a reservoir for sure. We'll have to. Hats off. When we get John Glenn on the podcast. Did you guys know that water and faults could lead towards quakes? I'm sure that's right. Well, don't be. I don't know if it's so true.

No, I would think that it could, right? It would change the pressure and the fault, certainly. Yeah, I would assume that that's such a big thing that they wouldn't just, I would assume. I assume that pumping water into a fault line could be detrimental. This is the wrong one to have my dad on. He's a geologist. He could answer this. Is he really?

Yeah. But, man, your dad seems great. Instead, we had him on Goldfinger. Yeah. Where there's no geological need for him to be on. And he's not an expert on blue Terry cloth. Yeah, gold. We should have asked about gold.

I'm going to look to sell water and fault line. I've got a gloft for you. Oh, please. When they get in the blimp out of the shack. Uh-huh. And everything's looking. looking good for the Zoran crew. What we've established is the other blimp, yes, go ahead.

And Scarpine, his other henchman, whom I just love in this movie. He's so loyal. Yeah. There's a quick cut when they're first taken off, and it's like they cut in halfway, and he's looking at Zorin, piloting it, and going, away. And they're having this cute little, like, little boy moment that I never caught before. Even the doctors behind them, and they're all like, we did it, we did it. You guys were good.

excited that all that all those things went to plan but you never see scarpine because he's always very serious and sober and for him to and he's kind of looking at zorn for approval yeah it's just a tender moment where I would watch a whole show based on these three why are those guys reinforcing the bottom of the lake because they because they're just they're assuming they're actually doing a mining operation oh they just think yeah right right yeah that makes sense all right yeah should we we should talk about May Day's turn She says the words What did she say?

I thought he loved me? Something like that. Yeah. And then immediately turns. And then sacrifices herself. Yeah. But is it... She has to hold the break or whatever she says.

Yeah. There's a part of me that thought. They even thought like Roger Moore when he's pushing her any trips was a sort of like, what if I purposely tripped here? and can't catch up with her. Oh, it's too far. Oh, no.

You go on ahead. You go on ahead. Oh, don't sacrifice. But I do like, I really like how she's laughing. Yeah. Like, she's like real giddy about it. And I love her, I love the image of her just coming out of that mind with one arm raised in the air. You're getting Zorn's point of view for this, too.

And Zorn's reaction to that is really great action. dude like he's truly like surprised and it's like I felt bad for him he was devastated. He was devastated that his plan didn't work. Right, right. That's what I mean. Not about her. Just that his plan didn't work. But he was playing it so real and weird. He wasn't like dracks. It wasn't like that.

It was like a very human reaction. Like he was like devastated about it. Yeah. It was great. But the fact that of all people to foil it is Mayday the person he just betrayed. See, that's why I don't. really see why people have it out for this movie so much because I know it's campy and it's stupid and goofy, but there's some great stuff in it.

I have never not enjoyed watching. Is this really considered one of the ones that the fandom doesn't get behind? Yeah, it's one of the low points for most people. That's funny because while you're in the bathroom, I texted my other friend while I was watching this movie because I didn't want to talk to Matt about it because I wanted to talk to him about it here. He's a massive James Bond fan and I texted him. And he said it was a series low point. Yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with, I grew up with this on cable saw and the theaters loved it.

Yeah, loved it. So let's get to the... He gets antennaed in the dick. I like that. He gets antennaed in the dick. Do you remember that? I thought that was great. A lot of dick stuff.

There is. And also, I mean, let's talk about this climax. It's a great... We're better to have this fucking climax than on the most iconic structure in all of San Francisco. Yeah, yeah. And they pulled it off. beautifully. Like, there's some amazing stunt work on there. Have you...

You've been to the bridge, right? But it's, I want to say... Yeah. It's, maybe it wasn't then. It's, like, the most over-y-you... Like, when there's an alien attack, that's the first thing that goes. Sure. They are destroying the Golden Great Bridge, like, every...

Yeah. Every movie. Yeah. Yeah. Full House. I mean, it's... By now, it's gotten a little played out, I would say. I mean, even May Day and Zorn are. impressed by the view. To a kill.

Yeah. Breath of taking. But you've stood next to that. You know how they have that piece of cabling? The suspension cable where you can see the inside of it. Oh, I haven't seen that. Next to the bridge if you're walking on the bridge. They have a piece of that cable.

It's essentially the big red pipes, quote unquote, that James Bond is walking on. Those are actually just thousands of steel cables. Oh, my God. All wrapped up. Covered in steel. It's very impressive. And it's also bigger. It's bigger than that in real life.

Really? So when he's like hanging on it and stuff like that, it's bigger. I see. So anyway, it's just some Golden Gate Bridge. Fascinating. Fascinating. I love after it all goes down and they've won and they're up there. This isn't quite a one-liner.

It feels like a good character thing that Moore says because it comforts Tracy and he just goes, never a cab when you need one. Yeah, and she laughs. Yeah. And she's like, oh, it's going to be okay. And I, like, I love those kind of one-liners in these movies that come from a character. That was a good one. The most suspense I felt in this movie was after Zorn had been dispatched and the airship had

blown up, I was fearful that the axe was going to fall onto the cars. Oh, yeah. Because the axe that he's fighting him with, it's like sitting there. And she's like, when she's climbing up, she's like hitting the. axe and I'm like that axe better not fall. And that's the origin story for a current day Bond villain. Like you killed my mom one time. Yeah, the axe fell. Yeah. I was on the golden grape. Yeah. Oh boy. That is good. And then we come full circle to what we first started talking about, the shower scene, which is interesting because it's literally Roger Moore's last scene is James Bond. He'd never do another.

And it's a robot watching him shower and throw a towel on him. And that's us. We're done seeing Roger more there. He throws a towel on us. We never see him anymore. We're cute. We are cue in that. Wow. I definitely, I remembered that very specifically because I probably rebound and watched it. You know, it's interesting where like when I saw that girl, Tanya Roberts, I was like, that girl's stunning like while watching it now. And I clearly, when I was a kid and watched it, had the exact same reaction and was accessing, because there's so many attractive women in this movie. Yeah. But my brain was accessing, I think, that. And I kind of felt like that kid again watching this.

And so I think that's the shower scene. I reround it and washed it a bunch of times. And that's probably why I remember the robot in the towel and stuff. I find it odd that Q would park an RV so close to the entrance of that house and not just go in and say, hello, James. Yeah. You don't think he wants to try out his thing? He knows what he's going to find, and he's happy to find it.

Also, his hands wouldn't fit through the door. How does the surveillance robot get up the stairs? I'm sure it's got little wheel boosters. We didn't have robots that could climb stairs until, remember when that Honda one that fell over? Yes. That was like 10 years ago. You got jets. I can't wait for the special edition of a view to a kill.

In the second one, right, attack of the clones? All of a sudden, R2 had jets. You've seen that. What do you think of this bad BB8? The, oh, dark BBA? Yeah, what do you think of that? What is that in the new one? Yeah.

Is he bad? I'll watch it when... I'll watch it when... I'll watch it when... Of course you're going to watch it. I'll decide. I'll watch it when it comes out. No, but I'll decide how I feel about it because I'm not even...

Do you have you seen this video that I'm talking about of the robot not being able to climb the stairs? Yes. Yeah. It's the funniest. Argo. What is it called? No-go. It's Honda's Asimo robot.

Asimo. Oh, yes. Yeah. You can see Asamo at Disneyland. He's there? Yeah, presented by Honda. I used to be able to see... Well, I think it's gone now,

but you used to be able to see him in the... Where the Carousel Progress used to be. Clearly a nod to Isaac Asimov, right? Yeah, it must be. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. But that's not a good nod, seeing how... Just took out the letter?

I robot went. Hmm. No. That's right. They're doing what he warned us again. yeah that's like it that is true that's like a doctor saying like I'm here's my new iron lung machine called Frankenstein yeah well that's a bad it's like having an omelette shape like a chick it's like a doctor saying take this pill I've named it AIDS yeah but the

the pill helps AIDS oh beat say it's it's he thinks it does okay right he's just he's just a confused individual well one thing we should cover right before we wrap this up is the Duran Duran song in the opening titles. Where are your thoughts on that? We didn't even do that. You like that song? Oh, yeah, I did like that song. I like that whole sequence with the glow in the dark paint and all that.

And you texted Emily a picture of it. I did because the woman on fire, there's a girl skating through fire. She's not really in the fire. No, I mean, but there's fire in front of her and she's just skiing in place to this Duran Duran song. How long do you think she had to do that move? Probably 45 minutes. I will say it made me think that.

there's going to be a lot more skiing in the movie than just the opening sequence. Yeah. They really set that up. Yeah, that's true. But like, it just seems like, I texted that to Emily because it felt like to me something that Emily vibed with. Right. Yeah.

Like, it just feels like something Emily would enjoy. Yeah. But the whole, I love that song. I don't know where we end up ranking it. Personally, I think us, we probably in the top three, right? No, I don't know about that. Top five, definitely top 10. Ugh.

I don't know. I forget our rankings. What are the other ones? Adele? Yeah. Yeah. Who cares? Honor matches you guys.

This point is this song. Fools! This song, a view to a kill. God, it's so fun. I was just reading about this song that apparently John Taylor of Durandran came up to John Berry. Or Cubby, maybe it was Cubby Broccoli at a party and said something like, you need a good Bond song.

You haven't had one a while. Oh. And that, like, brazeness got it for him. And that they, worked well with John Barry in making it, but that the band themselves were not getting along at the time. Oh. Was the song a hit?

It was the only number one bond song. Wow. Has there been one since? Skyfall, I feel like had to get up there right there. Skyfall, I think, is, yeah, it's because of the Adele thing. Yeah. Yeah. She's great.

And Sam Smith won the Academy Award. So did Adele. Okay, good. Don't forget about Adele winning at Oscars. What was this? Sam Smith? How did that? Writing on the wall?

Huh? Good question. I can't remember it. It's awful. Okay, but it won the event. I can't remember it. I can't remember it. Is that how it goes?

Is that how it goes? If it doesn't, then you should record that because that's a hit, baby. Why is this, why is this, what is with the baby thing? Why is it now back in the lexicon right now? The baby thing. Baby. Yeah. What is that?

I have a friend who started saying it ironically, and then he just says it, and now I just say it. But everyone's doing it. Yeah. In our circle of friends. I was saying babe a lot for a little while. Come on, babe. Yeah. And then now it's baby.

I'm just hearing it in that inflection, and I need to know who started it, why it's now in the lexicon of everyone within a 14-mile radius of here. We need to hang out with different people. That's the probably it, right? You guys can hang out with me. I'm not saying that. You will be, baby. Come on, baby. I will not.

We did a run on the Goldbergs where we were writing in the script. We were writing baby like that. Really? Just like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Let's get rid of that. That's right, baby. What do you give this movie?

Out of... So we would like to rate every movie, Kamel, on a scale of 00-0-0-0-7. 00-7 is the highest the movie can be. Okay. And here we are with a view to a kill. I'll go 006. Wow. Wow, that's super high.

Love this movie. This is purely subjective. I just, I probably the Bond movie I've seen the most. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm, 05 and a half. Okay. 005.5.5 for me. Okay. Camel, what do you give it?

See, I don't have the bond. I don't know the bond's well enough. All you have to do is look to your heart. with this. So I will say for me if there's a line of movie

like for me out of five stars if three is a movie I was like this is a good movie that I really liked. Yeah.

For me this is slightly below that. Okay. This is not quite for me the line where I'm like that was a good movie.

So the line in a scale of seven would probably be a four, right? Yeah. So this is a double O. Four. 3.5 maybe.

No, you know what? Out of seven, I'll give it. a 004. 004. Yeah. Wow.

I love how high this movie is going to skew in the final range. Oh, that pisses a lot of bond people off. Again, we're lovers, not experts. Yeah. I'll give it a 004. Again, I don't have the context of bond that you do. Yeah.

I just know the zeitgeist. Now, Camilla got to witness a very special moment. This is where we pick the movie that will be watched next for the podcast. And since I picked View to a Kill, I hand it over to the illustrious Matt Goreley. For the next choice. Matt had the first pick. He chose Golden Eye. Then I chose Goldfinger. Then he chose few to a kill. And I thought about which way I was going to go with this. Because, you know, I also don't want us to do all the good ones up front and not have any fun. So I'm going to pull off the scab and say, tomorrow never dies. We're pulling this off. Unbelievable. Let's get it over with. I'm so excited. I want this done.

Oh, Matt, you have just. Wow. This is my least favorite one movie. You have just made it. Really? You've made my life. I will say this. I haven't seen it since we've last done it. And in the whole point of the second go for me in many ways is to re-appreciate the Bosn and Brasman. And so I'm going to go in with open mind and see what I can find out of it. I did that with Golden Eye and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, going to it with the eyes of a newborn, Babebe.

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