James Bonding - Are You Ready to Get Back to Work, 007?

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

James Bonding is back! And better than ever. Or at least more regularly-released than ever. Join Matt and Matt for the introductory episode of their second season. They'll discuss the state of the franchise, the state of the podcast, and the format of the show going forward. Subscribe now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Well, Matt, we are officially back in action. You couldn't stop us away, huh? We are the Police Academy three of movies. Was that one called Back in Action? No. I don't know, but we're also the 456, 7, and 8, Moscow on the Hudson of podcasts. Moscow on the Hudson.

Well, don't they go to Moscow or something? Well, I believe it is called Mission to Moscow. Whatever. And I believe the movie I was thinking of was called Back in Training. Our point is, we don't need to know Police Academy titles. We need to know James Bond titles,

and that's why we're here. That is right. We are coming off the heels of a very successful season one of James Bonding. It took us a couple years to complete, But this season, we're coming at you hard and fast. Weekly episodes, everybody. Yeah, and this little introduction here is even more of a post-mortem insert

because we recorded this episode you're about to hear, this introductory episode a couple of weeks ago, and there was virtually no news on Bond 25. But then what happened? A deluge, I will say. The Sylvia trench opened and it spilled forth news. All we have to do here in James Bonding is say there is no news and it brings forth Bond news. You have us to thank.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Even after we did Who Charted last week, which you can check out, Matt and I are on there. We walked out and there was Bond news. That's right. It was crazy. So we recorded this little introduction to an introduction episode to let you know that within this episode, there is no news. but at some point we're going to insert a little conversation we're about to have that deals with the newest news.

Does that make sense? This is 2017. It sure does make sense, Matt. And if it doesn't, guess what? It's free. That's right. So enjoy this episode. Enjoy this season of James Bonding,

as you'll hear us say officially in the pre-recorded episode. We're very happy to be back. Thanks, everyone. Here's the actual show. James Bonding podcast. It's the James Bonding Podcast. It's the James Bonding podcast. It's the James Bonding Podcast. It's the James Bonding Podcast. With Matthews Myra and Gourley, Matthews Gourley and Myra podcast. Spins so long, I want to hear the whole thing. Matthews Gourley and Myra podcast of James Bond. King Podcast, James Bond, King Podcasts, James Bonding Podcasts, James Bonding would return. Man, Matt, End, James Bonding Podcast.

Unbelievable. We let the whole thing play because we're back. Oh, everyone, we promised James Bonding would return, and unlike some people, George Lazenby for one, we have returned. He had his choice. He had a choice. He made the wrong one. I don't know if you've all seen the Hulu documentary, but we'll be doing an episode on that later in the year.

Point is, we're here. We're here, we're back, and we have returned. A quick thanks to Paul Saborn of Paul and Storm once again for that amazing James Bonding theme song. I'm Matt Goreley. I'm Matt Myra, and we are your James Bond lovers. We're not experts, we're lovers. That's right.

We bond over our love of James Bond. By the way, new slogan for the show, we're not experts, we're lovers? I love it. I love it. It's a tagline at the bottom of the poster. I can't wait. We already have a poster.

We're going to be needing a new poster because we are no longer on the Nerdist Network. Oh, yeah. It says Nerdist on there. Yeah. Yeah. We are on Earwolf. Hello, Earwolf peoples. That's right.

Thank you to Earwolf for housing us and making all of this possible, which by that I mean, a weekly return of this show for at least a year. Every week, you're going to be smacked in the face. well, in the ears, really. We're going to box you in the ears with some James Bond every week. I'm happy to be back. I really am, Matt. I have to say it.

I've missed it. This is the podcast that grew from just a mutual love of James Bond and became something greater. It's a podcast that is more popular than any podcast I do besides the nerdist. Yeah, I think probably the same for me. And it's funny because we had done it over a period of like, what, three years with a lot of space in between the last, episodes because like with anything you love, if you spend a lot of time with it, you need a little

time away. So we took that time away. And I think we grew as people. I think so. I certainly gained some weight. But we're back. I just love you. So happy.

We recharged our batteries. And I have to say, like, even before we talked about coming back for this Bond podcast, I was starting to put in a James Bond Blu-ray again here. Oh, my God. I think we had all sort of, all two of us had sort of. of reach saturation point with James Bond with this podcast. It can happen. And we were like, we should step away for a bit.

And there had been no new movies. We spectered the hell out of it. There was no news. There was nothing happening in the world of James Bond. Until probably six months to a year ago, when the rumor mill started it kind of... It just started churning. That's right. And we said, there must be something to this James Bond franchise.

We saw a signal in the sky. We saw a double O in the sky. Could have been two searchlights. There was no seven up there. But we decided. That's right. I opened up my jar of Ian Fleming bones. I laid him out on the table.

And it was clear to me that it was time to return. So we picked up the phone and we said, hey, you think of what I'm thinking? If what you're thinking is, let's do this. Then yes. And here we are. So we're here. Our permanent new home is Earwolf, and we couldn't be happier to be on a podcast network with such great shows as I was there too. And super ego.

And is Pistol Shrimp Radio on there? Yeah, that's my other favorite of that show. For the most part, everything I do is on Airwolf. Or Stitcher Premium. Stitcher Premium, guys. Get over there. Stitcher Premium will soon be the new home of. some of our content.

Yes, and that was part of the deal we made with Earwolf, which was another way for us to make this possible, and they were very gracious in that. And so this is also, because this episode here, we mentioned that we might be back with a tribute to Roger Moore. That will be the next episode. We thought we'd first do a State of the Nation podcast. You didn't all get an email.

I did. That's right. And what we're telling you right now is if you want any of the old episodes of James Bonding, go get them. Get them. They'll be available for a month or so. Possibly two weeks. We worked it out with Earwolf.

They said we want to throw everything on the premium. And we said, hold the phone. Give us a chance. Give us a chance to let our audience know. And they said we will. And so we're letting you know, please go and download all those fun episodes. There's 30-some-odd episodes there for you to listen to right now. Just, you know, bank them.

Get them free while they last. We want you to have them. Get them free. And then after that, they're going to be at Stitcher Premium, where you still have plenty of access to them. So if you don't feel like downloading them now and you're a member of Stitcher Premium, don't worry, you'll have access to them.

And after those are all on there, we're going to be doing some episodes that are specially crafted for that very platform. Yeah, so if you don't download all those episodes, don't worry, because you might want to get Stitcher Premium anyway because we're going to be doing some commentaries. Full-on audio commentary tracks. Who knows what else will come up on?

There's going to be other things that are going to be in there. I know a lot of people were like, will you guys ever do commentary tracks? And our answer was, we're lazy. And Earwolf's answer was, why don't you do it? We'll make it worth your while. And we said, fine. We're capitalists.

We work for the Imperial. This is America. And we're as American as apple pie. Now, the truth is we are back because we were itching to do this again. And Earwolf did make that possible. And we found a home and we found a schedule that somehow will work for us. Saturday mornings. Saturday mornings is our time.

to be Mats. That's right. It's literally the only free time that is left in my schedule, and I couldn't be happier to be spending it with Mr. Matt Gourley. And you know what? The same goes for you, Matt. Oh, buddy. I feel like I'm looking at myself in my own eyes.

I just feel like this is right. You know, sometimes I do a podcast with my wife. I do that every week, actually. Matt and Dory's excellent adventure. And I've got to tell you, I feel more comfortable now when I'm doing that podcast with my wife. Well, I've always said we should have married each other. Well, since the last show, you have gotten married. I have. It's true. I did. I went and had all the time in the world. And so far, no machine gun deaths.

You are going to hear more about that wedding on the Roger Moore Tribute episode, because we figured with a funeral, let's have a wedding. That's right. It was one wedding and a funeral. That's right. Oh, yeah. And we had as a guest for what will be our first regular episode, Phil Noble Jr., who, who is the Bond expert at birth movies death. He's wonderful, he's great. He's always fill in my feed with worthy news. So he's worth a follow. Absolutely.

In fact, he's been writing up about the non-news of James Bond right now, but including some great links to articles about dissecting every scene of Casino Royale. Oh. And that I am really digging. There's some good stuff on that. He's a gentleman and a scholar and truly a James Bond expert, whereas we are lovers. That's right. That's right.

He's like R.M. He is. And we're like Bond and Moneypenny, but equal parts both. And I feel good about that. Which money penny are you? I got to be Lois Maxwell. Sure. I feel like, I don't know, there's part of me that's actually that Dalton Moneypenny.

Right? I was just thinking that. I was just thinking. Who are you? I feel like I'm also that money penny. Yeah. Maybe I'm Samantha Bond. Oh, maybe.

She doesn't get any love. Well, she did. Certainly from this podcast where one half of us does not appreciate. I like her. The movies with which she is I think she's good. I do. She's great.

Actually, I think all the money pennies have been pretty good. They, yeah, there's not been a dud in the bunch. No. That's interesting. We can do a money pen,

rank the money pennies episode. See, the thing is, we're going to go back over all of these films. Yeah. But every other week, we're going to do that. Yeah. And in between we're going to do rankings.

We're going to talk about some of the, you know, the satellite films like the Bond Documentary Becoming Bond. The Bond documentary becoming Bond. The Bond documentary becoming Bond is going to be talked about the Bond

The Bond doc, what's George Lazubies called? Becoming Bond? That's what it's called. What's the Eon Productions? We're lovers for not experts. Everything or nothing. We'll do that. We got your unofficial entries.

You're never say never again. You're going to hear casino royale. Original casino royal. Part of the things I want to talk about today in the Bond news is something to do with those two films. We'll get to it in a minute. I can't wait for that. We're also going to branch out into movies that are, you know, James Bond-esque or have some nod to the franchise, be it in like, an in like Flint or an Austin Powers or maybe even The Rock, which I consider to be canon.

You're going to get an argument from me on that. That's taken a big group. Now, maybe the way this franchise is purportedly heading, you might have some bases. But until I hear an announcement with a Bond universe, I will not recognize that as canon. So, yeah, the format this year, last time we set out to do this podcast, we decided to go through each movie and we went, we bookended. So we started with Dr. No. And then at the time,

the newest movie was Skyfall. And we did that so that we wouldn't feel like we were in the drudges of a time period. Right. So we didn't want to be stuck in the 60s for a month. And stuck with the same bond after week after week. So we wanted different flavors. So we formatted it as such.

This time around, We are going to be forcing each other to watch whatever James Bond movie we feel like watching. So what that means is before we do the next episode, what we'll do at the end of this one is we'll tell you what James Bond movie is next. Who gets to pick first? We'll flip a coin. We're going to have to flip a coin. And then that person gets to pick first. I love this. This excites me because you know how it is.

When you go to put a James Bond movie on, as you all do, you go, what do I feel like today? You don't want to go, you are forced to watch. any one of the four brasons. I don't want to be forced to watch Thunder Bowl. But we are going to be... I've got an instinct that that might be less. But part of the thing is we have to be responsible about this because we could end up with all of our least favorite Bond films at the end,

which may make it tough. So we may have to force ourselves to say, this is like, I got to eat my vegetables here. And I got to be honest with you, the person who's going to be eating the most vegetables is Matt Goreley. Yeah. I don't know. Well, that's true because...

Every time I say we're watching Tomorrow Never Dies. You're going to be like, oh, no. What do you mean every time? What? What? What? No, you can't double up. You think you're going to do that every two, three weeks is going to be tomorrow and it dies?

No, thanks. I'm off. I'm out. No. So we're going to, that's how the four hours is going to work. We'll each pick a different movie until we've gotten to all of them. And the in-between times are going to be spent with special episodes. So you've all very much enjoyed the episode where we ranked the Bond theme songs with Andy

Sikunda there. So that format is now our new ranking format. And next week, Phil, Matt and I are going to be using that format to rank the movies of the late great Roger Moore. Even though they defy ranking. They really do. But I think we learned a lot about each other in that episode. That's right. And whenever possible we'll have a guest for these films.

It may not be every single time, but we'll do our best. There are already some people staking their claim for certain movies. Yeah, we are lining up some guests. I'm really hoping we finally get Kumail for Octopus. It's never going to happen. He's such a movie star now. I know. Him and Emily are writing hit movies.

Actually, if we approach him now, maybe we can get him for the publicity's sake of the film. Oh, that's a good point. Opening wide. Next weekend. That's right. Yeah. I think it's actually more theaters this week and then next week. The point is, go see the big sick.

Definitely do. And then see Baby Driver. Go see all those movies that we have nothing to do with but are great. Yeah, I look forward to Baby Driver immensely. So we have told you about the new format. We told you Roger Moore is coming. And we are here to talk about Bond 25. What news?

What lack of news? A little troubled by some of the news I'm seeing and some of the news I'm not seeing. First of all, we don't have a bond. We don't. We don't not have a bond either. That's true. There is no official word on whether or not Daniel Craig will return. Hold it.

Not so fast, Matt and Matt. There is news. That's right. This insert is recorded like we talked about in the inserted introduction of this episode. Well, then what was the point of doing that inserted introduction? I don't know, but what I do know is this won't be an issue going forward because we'll be recording likely on the Saturday before the Tuesday that these episodes drop. We were just trying to get ahead of the game knowing a year of episodes was coming up.

We were just failing at getting ahead. That's right. But there is news to talk about. In fact, I've got a whole five things of bullet points here since we recorded. There's so much news to talk about. So I think the biggest bit of news that everyone is excited about is the fact that officially, sort of,

Daniel Craig is returning. Yeah, he's... all but officially confirmed. When you have the New York Times reporting from a source that Craig is back, that's, I mean, that's pretty good, despite what you hear in politics today. As good as it gets, guys. The James L. Brooks classic, as good as it gets. What's also officially confirmed is release date for Bond 25. That is true.

It is in November of the year 2009. November 18th, Matt? Is it 18th or 19? Something like that? Boy, we should have been more prepared for something we've had months to prepare for. Point is, it's going to come out. It's going to do the mid-November release that James Bond traditionally does, and it will be not as far away as we thought.

It's going to be up in 2019. I know. It still feels like a ways out. James Bond, Daniel Craig, will be 51 years old, and he will, though not have done the most amount of Bond films. that goes to Roger Moore. He will have had the longest tenure of any Bond actor by something like just a few days at that point. He, I got to say, he earned it, and he's done a great job.

He has a very high hit rate. He has a very impressive physique. That's for sure. He knows how to wear some slacks. He can. look tired and bored at any point. And he can also look fierce and engaged. I think I speak for both of us when I say we're happy he's back.

We hope it's under all the right circumstances. And I think that they are, the Purvis and Wade are working on a script. And there's also been announced a short list of directors. Even after a rumored talk of people like Christopher Nolan and even Edgar Wright, getting into the mix. It looks like deadline and variety are both reporting that the short list of bond directors for number 25

are Jan de Mange, Denis Villeneu and David McKenzie. We went from very French to David McKenzie. I know. Yeah, we went all over Western Europe. Yeah, boy, we sure did. So David McKenzie. What do we know

about David McKinney? He did Hell or High Water, which I really enjoyed. And as you know from previous discussions on this podcast alone, I've been really hoping Denny Villeneuve's name would be put into the mix. He did a rival and prisoners, but one that I thought was especially interesting in tone as far as a Bond movie could go with Sicario. Uh, yeah, Sicario is actually quite a, quite a film. But it slipped under the radar, I think. Yeah, I love that movie. And according to this list of the three frontrunners for director.

The front runner of the front runners is apparently Jan DeMange, who did the film 71, which I have not seen. Have you seen that? No, I have not. It looks good. It's about a British soldier left behind the lines in Northern Ireland. Okay. I can get on board with that kind of thing.

You know, I've got Dunkirk fever. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll probably check that movie out. And, you know, a lot of this information we're getting from different sources, some of them reliable, as you'll see with a new news item coming up in a bit. I mean, some of them unreliable, and some of them very reliable. Of course, when they come from Phil Noble Jr., Nobiel Jr., at Birth Movie's Death, and he'll be on next week's

episode where we commemorate the life and work of Roger Moore. Oh, it's going to be, and it is. It's a great one, guys. Tune in for that one. We might break in again in that episode to tell you something else we forgot to mention that we didn't know at the time. We'll get used to this. Yeah, so enjoy. If we sound different right now, get used to it. You like the movie Inception, right? That's what this is, is podcasting. We're basically dream kicking ourselves into news. We are the Inception of Podcasts.

I'm sure others have claimed that title, but we're going to really earn it this year. Yeah, that's right. Now, let's talk about this somewhat of a tabloid rumor where it was released in the sun and where else, all those crazy British tabloids that... Now, let me ask you this. Before you say this bit of news, is this the bit of news? Yeah. Is this the bit of news that I texted you earlier, or are we going to cover that after this news is done?

Oh, wait, I have to look at what you texted me. I'm trying to remember with all this news, it's hard to keep it straight, Matt. Well, if you look back at your text messages, you'll see the second of the last text I just sent you. Let's save that for the end. Great. That's good, because that deals with one of our hashtags. Sure does. Okay.

So I'm talking about, it's reported, I guess, in the telemed. The Telegraph and the Sun that... No, not the Telegraph, and the Sun that this script may be based on one of the Raymond Benson James Bond novels. And the title of the movie, which might be set or at least filmed in Croatia, might be called Shatterhand, which I think is a pretty cool title, but it's based on the novel... But Shatterhand is a great Bond title. Yeah, I agree.

But that's not the title of the book. It's Never Dream of Dying by Raymond Benson. Better name. He fights a blind villain. Matt and I are recording this separately from our homes. I just return on a long road trip from San Diego, even though that's not a long road trip. Sometimes that can take three, four hours.

You never know. So he goes up against a blind villain. Now I find that interesting, but how are we going to work Blofeld into it unless they're alluding to the scar on his face and maybe he has some blinding issues. You are making me go wah-wa-we-wa. That's the first thing that I've connected that makes me think this could be true. That sounds very interesting.

I do hope that we are going to see Blowfeld, because if we're establishing a Blowfield to only give him one mediocre movie, is I don't think fair. Yeah, I agree. And apparently in this article, they claim that the script has elements of, get ready on Her Majesty's Secret Service. Oh, which elements? I do too.

And I think any of our savvy listeners, of course, also. Yeah. Which elements of that story they're probably going to choose. It also says elements of you only live twice. What would that be? Volcano. Yeah. Yeah, maybe.

Or maybe they're going to turn Daniel Craig Asian. Oh, my God. That would be a spectacular. Uh, failure. Not seen since Cloud Atlas. Will we see an outrage like that? Not cringed at since Cloud Atlas. I think that's how all movies should be marketed.

Not since Cloud Atlas. Have you had this garbage? Uh, I enjoyed Cloud Atlas, I have to say. I haven't seen it. Well, it's got Q in it, right? Isn't Ben Wish on that? He's a great in it. He plays, uh, well, it plays many parts.

They all play many parts because you're seeing, many different time period. So kids, if you're out there and you haven't seen Cloud Atlas, it's worth a watch. Let's say you're flying, you know, and it's in the Delta Library, go ahead and pop it on. Let's say you're flying on a transcontinental flight, because isn't it a really long movie? Well, it can certainly get you to New York. Okay.

From Los Angeles. So, yeah, it's exciting. I love when the rumors start pouring in. I love hearing that they're thinking of villains, that they're thinking of locations, or talking about Croatia, just gets me pumped. I'm with you, Matt, because right or wrong, true or false, the rumors mean things are starting to get brewing.

That is right. And this means that, like, sure, right now we're two and a half years, two years and four months away from the actual movie coming out. But that means we're probably only a year from Matt and I making horribly incorrect predictions about that movie based on whatever footage we see. The only thing we can accurately predict is that we will inaccurately predict this film.

And that we will see it. That's because we're lovers, not experts. That's right. I think we've already said that in this podcast. It bears repeating. It bears repeating. One other thing from Phil Nobiel, and that is that he's getting this from the mirror

and calling it less official, but he says, Yeah, friend of the pod. He says, quote, I have read thoughts from someone I believe to be close with the production that the broccolies are looking to do one more bond than sell the franchise off a la George Lucas slash Star Wars and Disney. I don't like the sound of...

I love that this movie franchise that I love is a family-owned business. It's like when you go to in-and-out, you know? That's not a franchise. Forget the fact that they put Bible verses on the bottom of their cups. They still treat their employees well and they're a family-run business

and I like going to my mom-and-pop movies like the giant James Bond block. As I've said many times, you know, in and out can print whatever they want on the bottom of their cups because I'm always looking for something new to read. And I can go, oh, verse 3, 7,000, whatever the hell it is. I've burned through all the insides of my Snapple caps and I need to read some Bible verses. With their sometimes false facts. But you know what, it's okay. I think that it's interesting.

And I wonder, you know, I think when Cubby purchased the rights to this franchise, I don't think he ever in the wild. his dreams anticipated it would be something that's still going. No, but I just, there's something I just love about the legacy in this, the personal stake that these people have in it, that if, if it were sold off to a studio, then nobody's got real true, like, family pride ownership over it. Right. What if it was Jeff Bezos? Elon Musk.

Oh, see, that would be getting too close to the truth. I know, but you know what I mean? It's like, what if it was somebody, one of these, uh, billionaire types who's a huge fan of the franchise that's what it's going to be though but i just i don't know i don't know there's something Barbara broccoli especially like i want her to work on it as long as she can i think she's the one most responsible for casino real and i don't know barbara we love you as we've said many times on this show and we look forward to you visiting this year on the podcast that's right and just to my into my vocal vision board uh this is the secret uh Barbara of

will be on later this year in James Bonding. She was booked today, but she had to cancel probably. Yeah. All right, now let's get to the exciting news. Matt, you want to take us through this? All right. So we have some news. I'd like to introduce a new segment to the show called James Bond.

James Bond News. You've already heard about the segment earlier in the show, but there are going to be weeks where there's no actual news about the franchise, and we're just going to have to go with tangentially related James Bond News. And this is some of that. All right, so from the Daily Mail.com.uk, one of the great websites, we have a report that Yafit Koto has been abducted by aliens in real life. Yeah.

He said it began when he was about nine or ten years old, and has continued since. Also, Cotto refutes claims that he's mentally ill, and he said his IQ is 196. Well, maybe he's being tutored by the aliens, because that's pretty high. I've never talked to anyone about it. Man, this is the first time, said Cotto, when he spoke to Vice.

I've only told my wife, my rabbi, and a psychologist. This is the first time I'm talking about it. First of all, blown away that he is a mensch. I had no clue. Welcome to the tribe, Yafit. A tribe that I'm not in, but my wife speaks highly of. I don't like how this article begins. The actor who faced a grisly death in Ridley Scott's film Alien.

It should have been the actor who faced a grisly, but ridiculous and certainly more ridiculous than a pigeon double-take death. Well, I think it's very telling that they didn't write that, Matt. I think it's very, very telling. Well, maybe you're right. Maybe that's the lack of evidence. it says all. Here's the deal.

It started when I was about nine or ten years old. I remember being told I couldn't go outside. So I would look out at the streets of my neighborhood in the Bronx and watch kids play stickball.

And then this thing, this article takes a weird turn. When I turned around, a figure was behind me. That's literally the next words out of this mouth. So I used to watch kids play stickball. Then the next sentence in this article,

when I turned around, a figure was behind me. It was at least five or six feet tall with an elongated head. It appeared, then jumped to the back of me and disappeared. From that moment on, it was one experience after another, which culminated into me, uh, sighting in the Philippines and during the filming of alien.

He had a sighting while he was filming alien. Can you believe this? He saw an alien while he was filming alien. Every time I moved into a house, above it at some point, there would be a circle of what looked like smoke. I'd wonder where it came from because it sure as hell did not look like clouds. And it was right under our chimney.

Those sightings continued for 10 to 15 years. I've also had time loss. I've had a big loss of time, some of these moments, and I'd often wonder if I was taken. It was an evening in my office, in the Philippines. I heard my wife and the waiters calling me to come outside in very anxious voices. So I went outside, and when I got there, I saw the same huge circle of smoke over the house.

house. When I asked them what they saw, they said they saw a UFO as big as the Yankee Stadium turned upside down. They were freaking out. Two or three nights later, I saw it. The thing blotted out the entire sky, the moon and everything. It was huge. I just remember saying, Jesus Christ. I mean, I got nervous, man, because you don't see something like that without being vulnerable to becoming psychologically blown away. Wow. They do include a picture of him as Cananga. And they also say at the end, Cotto, and then they misspell his name, by the way, who also played the iconic role of Dr. Cananga in James Bond classic live and let die, noted that in order to believe they are real, aliens are something that must be seen. He refutes claims that he's mentally ill.

So, you know, there's a lot to digest. here, but this is so far my favorite piece of James Bond News we've had to talk about on the show. I think it's certainly the most important, and it's good that we cover it. We cover everything here. If you had to pick a Von villain that you thought had been abducted by aliens, who would it be? Well, you know, like that's just not a casual question. I'm now running through 24 Bonn films right now in my head. It's tough. It's tough, I know. Well, Blowfeld's pretty good because he just looks like he's wearing, like, saucer clothes. Sure, sure.

You know, if I had to pick one, honestly, I didn't have to go very far in the lineage of James Bond. I think Dr. No. Yeah, that's a good one. He does look kind of, he looks like one of those classic gray, big-eyed aliens kind of. Yes. Maybe he's a half-breed, as they call it, in alien abduction circles. And I believe what they call him in the novel Dr. Now, don't they? Yes.

Seriously, seriously. What? That's amazing. This is more evidence to the fact that Dr. Now is who had been abducted by aliens. Yeah. Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. Bond News. Back to our regularly scheduled show.

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I really, really liked it. Yeah. I still would struggle with him as. a bond unless they were to do like a 60s thing, I think. Yeah? He feels a little bit, period, to me, not, like, in a good way, but imagining him now as a rugged-d-bond. He does have that facial structure of the 60s.

Yeah, like maybe he's smoked and had a bit too much to drink. It's the cheeks. Yeah, he is a, it's his cheeks. He's got a withdrawn something. Right. But in a good way, like, it's nice. Do you think it's odd that it's... Is James Bond, if I remember correctly in the novels, is described as, does he have a scar?

He does, yeah, yeah. And he has a, like, described as a comma of hair over his forehead, and his eyes are like steel gray. Oh, God, are they? I know. And I was thinking about this last night as I was watching inside the living daylights and falling asleep to it as I do. He refused to watch the actual movie. Well, like Patrick McNeill, the narrator's voice is so soothing. He's so great.

It's like being lullabyed. to sleep. I'm thinking Dalton, it's either Dalton or Laysenby that looks the most like the Fleming Bond is described. Got to be Dalton, I think. Connery's close, but he's very, Connery is just so distinct looking, plus he has these dark eyes. You say Dalton, I think Dalton too. You know, you've seen that, that drawing that is going, that has gone around of James Bond. In fact, I'm going to pull it up just so we can look at it together here. And I believe that you can find this drawing on the Wikipedia page for you.

James Bond. Let's see. James Bond is the, there he is, right? Yeah, he almost looks like Peter Cushing there. Yeah, this is...

Like a healthier Peter Cushing. A healthier Peter Cushing. The the look of James Bond, you know, they've bounced so, it's amazing how many people

have portrayed James Bond. Yeah, because they're given... They're really, like Bob, Bob Holness? I mean, come on. What was he doing? When was he James Bond? Is this an audio book?

A lot of these are radio and stuff. I don't care for that. No. Although Bob kind of looks like him, like James Bond. So if you go to James Bond's Wikipedia page, you'll see on the right is a sketch that was commissioned by the, for the Daily Express comic strip artists. And he looks older there.

He looks like he's in his 40s. He's like a cross between Peter Cushing and David Niven without the mustache. It's the hairline. Yeah, he's got a bit of a receding hairline. we all. Yeah. I mean, it's just... Well, I mean, it really, receding hairlines just make me think I look much more like Bond. That's all it does is to secure my connection to James Bond. So, yeah, look that picture up and tell us who you think looks the most like James Bond of the actors that have portrayed him. Our Twitter handle, James Bonding Pod, is going to be active and raring to go.

Matt's looking at me like, oh, I have to do that now. I'll see. That's what he's looking at you like. I find it hard. I've been thinking about bringing in some help for this round. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. We should have a social media intern. Yeah, and let's talk about our email address.

That's another thing. Which we have to dust off. Yeah, exactly. So what is our email address? I don't remember. Is it Bond James Bonding at Gmail.com? That sounds terrible. Send an email to me right now and I'll see if it comes up.

I'll look right now. I think it's Bond to James Bonding. at gmail.com. But of course, I could be wrong. This is how prepared we were to bring the podcast back. And this is how it's going to be. And I think this is why you come here.

I think you come here for unpreparedness. And if you like unpreparedness, I would also highly recommend you check out Star Trek, the next conversation with Matt Meyer and Andy Secunda. That is on no network. So check that out. James Bonding Podcast.

Here we go. James. It's Bonding. James Bonding at Gmail.com. You can write to us at Bond James Bonding at Gmail.com.

We are going to be filling the odd weeks where we're not doing a film with a lot of State of the Union stuff answering questions, ranking of things, and we are happy to answer your questions. You can email us,

James Bonding at gmail. It's a great email address. It's the best. I'm not going to lie. We've been thinking about setting up a Google voice, but I've been told, maybe we don't. I don't know. Who told you that? Me. Oh, so you're talking to yourself?

A little bit. You've been doing this podcast without me? There's 14 episodes you haven't been on. I can't wait to listen. This is a great podcast. And if you want to be our social media email answerer, email us and tell us why. And until we get someone to do that, we won't get that email. That's right. It's really a conundrum. I believe this is the, this is the plot. of a looper, right? I think so. What else do we know about Bond 25? We do know that they were doing

some location scouting. Yeah, so let me do the Bond 25 roundup right now. Bond 25 would theoretically have been out this year, had it gone on a normal James Bond schedule. Yeah, that is one thing about Craig's tenure. It has been plagued by either lawsuits or just burnout. So Bond 25, screenplay was commissioned and written by Mr. Jan Yogan, John Logan.

Wait, 25 has been written? It was. There was a draft written of 25. I don't think I even knew that. And then they called in the... Oh, that's right. Then they brought Purvis and Wade. Then they called him the... I don't know what you'd call them. Now, if you're a long-time listener of this podcast,

we were very dubious about them in the beginning because we thought maybe Paul Haggis came in and was what made Casino Royale so special. But then, lately, I feel like you're the same way. we've been thinking maybe Purvis and Wade are actually responsible for a lot of the smart choices. The thing is we don't know. Yeah. So in 2017, Barbara Brockley, April of this year, mentioned that Purvis and Wade had been drafted, had drafted Bond 25 and we're ready to write a script.

I don't know where this John Logan information is coming from. Again, lovers, not experts. Because they were brought, he was brought in for Spector and then they were brought back, even though they weren't going to do that anymore. Yes. So maybe that's conflated with that. but that's why I'm wondering how much of Specter was John Logan, how much was Purvis and Wade? It's a conundrum wrapped inside a delicious British man.

Wrapped inside a lectermission. Oh, according to a blog website now, this is a blog website. You pick one. Pick one. By the way, the most dubious source I've ever read from. it was reported that Disney best known for being the media empire for over 90 years could handle distribution of the James Bond film rights. Could or is in the running to? It depends on how the deal works in order to outbid Warner Brothers and others.

A new report from Forbes contributor Scott Mendelsohn says it is getting closer that the company itself should buy the Bond franchise after rumors spread over the past few months that this time to keep it away. for the competition to get one step further ahead. That sentence is so poorly constructed that I think... Are you telling me... What he's telling me? Well, this is from Forbes. And this is the... Okay, so Scott Mendelsohn from Forbes

is saying that he is thinking that Disney should grab the James Bond series. How do you feel about that? Because they're famous for now, They got Marvel. They've got Star Wars. They're universe builders. I don't like that.

I feel a couple of things about it. One, I feel good about the idea of a theme park attraction. That I love. And also a stunt spectacular. Yes. We saw those designs for that original James Bond stunt spectacular. Which I believe had the giant submarines. I think if that happened.

I would go there. Oh, we'd be their opening day. I would take poison. Yeah. Like a sweet. Yeah. Opiate poison. And just let that be my last moment on her.

That would be incredible. Sweet, sweet relief. Like, I would go with Amanda because I love her. Yeah, sure. Would you ask her to also take point? No, no, I wouldn't expect that of her. Why would you do that? No, you don't want to do that.

I would never do that. But I would ask her to understand why I am going out that way. Well, I think she'd get it. I'm going to play this portion of the podcast at your funeral. A lot of you are asking why Matt would ever do this. And then people would get up and like, wait, wait, why are we here celebrating the life of this idiot? Excuse me. So a theme park ride with James Bond, there's so many ways you could go with it.

It has to be a stunt spectacular. Of course it does. It can't be a ride. And I have to say, you've got to leave Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular where it is because it is still spectacular. I love that. I love any stunt spectacular. People that know me know that.

But here's the ride. Cello case. The Living Daylights, cello case. Passengers board a cello case and slide down the outs. I'm in. This, I want a whole. James Bond theme park. I, oh my God.

What are your lands? You've got, well, Spector volcano, first of all. Spector volcano, no. That's a full land. I don't want that land. You don't want that land? I don't want Specter Volcano Land. I'd rather have you only live twice Volcano Lair land.

That's what I mean. Oh, sorry. I meant Specter. I don't want Crater. No, I meant the group Spector. Oh, I see. Thank you. It's getting difficult now because of the thing.

We're out of practice. So, yes, I would love. I would love a volcano layer. You know what? I think we need to save this for. I feel like it's multi... Why? Why not make this the episode from now on?

Because I am so excited about this topic, fleshing out a full James Bond theme park that I don't think we can give it justice in... You're thinking we need more time to really write down what our lands would be? I want to do drawings. Should we hire concept artists? I want to do it. Let's do this. I need to save this for an episode.

All right, we're saving it for an episode. This will go Roger Moore retrospective. First film and we'll come back with James Bond theme park. I'll do some drawings. What are we call it? telling it. Bondopolis? Hmm.

What do we call it? Skyfall. Well, I mean, that's a ride right there. Yeah. We can rebrand the Tower of Terra as Skyfall. Oh, see, it builds itself. I mean. Save it for...

Okay, Disney, if you're listening, don't. Don't do anything until we give you all the ideas. So Scott Mendelsohn's saying, Walt Disney should buy the worldwide distribution rights to James Bond series to keep it away from their rise. and further cement their tent pole and market share domination. I don't know how great of an idea it is for Disney to own everything.

Yeah, we're getting into serious monopoly territory there. It's, however, I will say, I mean, the fact that they own Indiana Jones, Star Wars, and the Marvel Cinematic Universe is tremendous. It's crazy. What's left? James Bond, Harry Potter, Friday the 13th? What are the other franchises? That's the other franchise.

does. Who is the fast and the furious? That's Universal, right? Because they have an attraction there. So Universal has that and Harry Potter. Okay. Well, Harry Potter really is Warner Brothers. Right.

But they don't have a game park, so they license it too. Well, let's get with it, James Bond. You can license it Universal. They were going to. That's right. That was what that ride was going to be. Look, save it for a huge episode. This is going to be my favorite episode.

We might do more than one. Oh, my God. I can't wait for the... Oh, the theming of the hotels on property alone. Who would be the best guest for that episode if we were to have one? It has to be someone who loves the things that we love, which is theme parks and James Bond. We'll think about it.

I mean, who knows, we may not have a guest. You never know how these things are going to be. It might be too embarrassing to even have a guest. To approach someone. Look, we thought of you for this. Here's the deal. We need. I think I know who it should be.

Who? Paul. I was just thinking that. Yeah. Paul, you're listening? Wait, which Paul? Shear. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. I'm going to text them right now. All right. Talk for one second. Okay. What other news has come up? Oh, I want to talk about this class action suit if you've heard of it.

So there are actually people out there. And for all I know you might be one of them, listener, and to which I apologize, kind of. But there's a class action lawsuit against, is it MGM or whoever's distributing the box set of all the James Bond Blu-rays? Because it says, on there all the James Bond movies but doesn't include never say never again and the casino royale the Woody Allen David Niffin Peter Sellers casino royale oh wait that was also named in the lawsuit is not being yes and I received notification of this lawsuit like anyone would in a class action suit do you want to join and in the past I've gotten those for whatever working at a place

or buying some product and I've like at least read them this one I read and went no thing oh you don't want your $11 like does the person really that bought that that started this class action lawsuit really did they really feel like they were jipped like when they they got home and said can't wait to watch casino royale 67 and never say never again that's why i bought this thing i think they're just being difficult right i think they're just looking for a lawsuit to happen yeah it doesn't i don't understand also what kind of damages they're seeking in this james bond i'll look it up james bond james bond class action lawsuit where the, now the Blu-ray set, I will say, I think Never Say Never Again should end up in there.

Just because it's a remake of Thunderball? Yeah, and Sean Connery's in it. So, I mean, does that? But I don't feel like it's their responsibility. It's not canon. It shouldn't be in the book. The definitions of all and every are at the center of this suit. Good Lord.

Mary Johnson, whoever you are, sued MGM in 20th century Fox Home Entertainment in April, claiming that she was promised all the Bond films when she bought the set, but it was missing two of them. 67 Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again, 83. Bond connoisseurs may argue that the two films are not actually true 007 flicks, the original, because you guys know all this. That debate aside, in a motion to dismiss, MGM argued that no reasonable purchaser would expect that a box set would contain films that are not included on the list. of titles clearly printed on its packaging.

I agree that the titles are listed. I know not every person is expecting, like you can't expect our parents to know. I guess ours should, but I've told them so many. I tell them daily and they still don't remember. Johnson's attorney Alexander Kleinberg says that the argument is factually and legally defective relying on the assumption that the customer would be able to decipher the list of films printed in barely readable print on the back of the box. do you have this?

The box set? Yes. Let's get this out. Let's exhibit A this motherfucker. I'll continue to read. More importantly, and it impermissibly imposes on that reasonable purchaser the obligation to be a James Bond expert who would know every single James Bond film ever produced, marketed and sold, writes Kleinberg. Well, small point there. He also argues that MGM is twisting the meanings of the wording it used to describe the set.

It presumes that the reasonable purchaser will interpret the author. inclusive language that defendants chose to use to describe the sets. Quote, all of the Bond films gathered for the first time in this one-of-a-kind box set. Every gorgeous girl, nefarious villain, and charismatic star from Sean Connery, the legendary actor who started all, to mean that all means some and that every means only certain. So let's see the titles. Very small, very small, but they're on the bottom. They're not that small.

They're so small. I can barely. Mary Johnson. I'm backing you up 100%. Mary Johnson, maybe get your eyes check. No disrespect to your eyes. But that's like a type size 11, 10 font. It is a clear font, including ratings

and whether or not there's close captioning available. Right. High contrast, every title listed there. That one... Yours has quantum masala in it? Yeah. Oh, right. It left a question for Skyfall.

Should it not? But I think it may be the other set. Oh, the set after that? Yeah, I'm not sure. How many sets are there? Too many. You know, they're milking it. I did like how they left the spot open for Skyfall.

I thought that's what the first lawsuit was about. Oh. But I think maybe there was a separate one or this one is, I don't know. Anyway, if U.S. District Judge Ricardo Martinez denies, hey, is that the same judge that Trump was shitting on? I don't know. Will you Google that? Sure, what's the judge name?

Ricardo Martinez. You got it. Googling away. This would be amazing. Because he's essentially a Trump villain. Like. Ricardo Martinez, obviously, is an anime, is an animated boxer. Okay.

Judge Ricardo Martinez. Ricardo Martinez, notable cases. Oh, he had a case with Backpage.com, an online escort service. And it does not appear. He was nominated by George W. Bush. was confirmed by the United States Senate in 2004. That's not him. He's a Latino judge in the Western District of Washington.

He became chief judge on February 6, 2016. Obviously, I know there are more than one, you know. I mean, it feels like you're being racist. No, I know there's more than one Latino judge. As half of a, half a Cuban, I feel. Are you half Cuban? Yeah. Oh.

I feel like you really. Is this why you like Die Another Day so much? You're really coming at us. die another day so much. You're the one who thinks that you're the one who's coming around on that. I am because it's bonkers. God, it's garbage. If U.S. District Judge, Ricardo Martinez, denies MGM's motion to dismiss, the studio's attorney John Devlin has alternatively asked him to strike the nationwide class allegations, arguing that the class definition, which essentially includes anyone who bought the box set, is impermissibly overbroad. Kleinberg disagrees, adding that that would chill class certification in false advertising cases.

A hearing on the motion to dismiss is set from May 26. Oh, look, I'm really glad that our first episode back we're talking about a class action. Well, I also have news. Paul Shear says he is undoubtedly on board. This is going to be great. For the fictional James Bond theme park episode. This is going to be great. We're just giving ideas for free, for free to not only the American public, but to the thinkers and the imaginers out there. God, Disney, at first I was like, no, you can't own everything,

but now I'm like, you should own everything. Yeah. I want to ride that. I want to sit down in an outdoor stadium with a net roof while that Bond music plays and out comes James Bond in one of those live and let die boats because they built a lagoon in. Man, oh, man. Blowfield comes out in a little monorail. You know what I loved, one of my favorite attractions at Universal,

which is no longer at the one, I think it's still in Orlando, Terminator 2, 3D. Oh yeah, they had that here for a while. They had it, yeah, till very recent. I wrote it the last day I went, just to say goodbye to the Terminator 2, 3D. I'll be real sad when Waterworld goes.

Waterworld still going strong after all these years. I used to drive, when I would drive home from Burbank, when I was working in Burbank, I would drive home at a time when I would constantly see the flares going up as I was driving down olive. There's something unique about the same. sounds of stunt spectacular explosions because they're not like in a movie where it's like they're like pops they're like because it's more like a puff of smoke right oh the smell you

get a tactile smell you feel the heat of the flame it's a lot of air cannon happening oh that's great sound you're hearing and then the heat of the flame boy oh boy no flame is hotter by the way than the than the disney mGM studios back lot tour flame that that was the hottest flame go to backdraft at universal studios? No. Do you know what that was? You would stand in a room and just things would burn. That's all it was.

There was no like story. It was just, now look over here. Uh-oh. Oh, walls of fire. Yeah. Must have been very hot. You know what? If you get a chance to go on YouTube, check out the Miami Vice Stunt Spectacular.

It's on YouTube and like four parts in real shitty resolution. I do that weekly. I do watch, I do watch a lot of theme park related videos. So do I. I, you know, there's a guy who's doing this thing called defunct land. I don't know if you've seen these videos. No. But he goes through these histories of attractions that are no longer at Disney or Universal.

Like Journey to Interspace or whatever that is. Yes, like Journey to the Interspace, 20,000 Leeds are under the sea. And he also opens it up to Universal. So the Jaws ride in Orlando, et cetera, et cetera. Does it have the A-Team stunt show in there? Anything about that? Not yet. We could recommend it to Defuncts.

Yeah, please. All right. The A-Team Stunt Show. I never even heard of the A-Team Stunt Show. It's Waterworld. now, but before that in that same space was Miami Vice, and before that was the 18 stunt show. And I saw it as a kid. I've told this story before, but I went on a day when it was in its last legs and out comes the 18 van, BA gets out, and Hannibal gets out. They talk for a bit. Hannibal goes,

I got to go back in the van for a second. Same guy comes out as Murdoch, and we never see face. And it was like drizzling, and it was clearly like people were calling sick. And it was, I want to see that one again, but I can't find any video of that one. That one doesn't even feel real to me. It's real. Was that not a fever dream you had? No, it was absolutely real because I also bought an A-Team AK-47 toy they had there.

Wow. And a set of action figures. Sure, yeah. Yeah. I had an A-Team lunchbox. That's nice. It was pretty good. We got to get back on John Spawn.

Back to Bond. So the other big news that the world of Bond has been discussing is this, sort of circling the idea of possibly becoming a cinematic universe. How do you feel about this, Matt? I don't feel great about it. I don't even. And the other time they were discussing this, we all know, was with Jinks. Right.

Who, if you don't remember, Academy Award winning actress Halliberry, performing what many think is her second to worst role. Next to Catwoman? Yes. She's awful in that movie. And I don't know if it's the script's fault. or the script's fault, but it's probably

the script's fault. Are you talking about Catwoman? No, I'm talking about Dye another day. I'm wondering some of it is the director too. The,

I'm just, here's the deal. I'm not blaming you, Halliberry. I'm blaming a lot of that dialogue. Yeah. It was awful. Jinks,

so they were going to do a Jinks spin-off. That's why Michael Madsen is in it as the American M in Diner the Day. And she was going to have her own time

off with her shell coral pink thunderbird that she had. Remember that thunderbird? And they made a James Bond edition of that thunderbird. I might have to watch that. Maybe we start with that if this is my movie pick. Oh no. No, just kidding. We've got to start strong. So Jinks was going to get her own franchise and I'm not entirely sure what happened, but just just so we can remember what what Jinks was like. I'm going to go ahead and play a little bit of the jinx performance. Let me suit up with my headphones. Go ahead. Yeah, okay.

I'm going to, we have a little bit of an ad here that I'm going to skip in four seconds for fast, the fate of the Furious, which, if you haven't seen it already. And check out this weird thing they have at Universal Studios, where it's like the cars on sticks. I don't know how to explain it. It is cars on sticks. You're on it. Oh, yes.

Cuba. No, your homeland. My homeland. So many Mitas. This movie does always make me want to have a mojito, though. This movie always makes me want to have a cigar. This movie also makes me miss Pierce Brosnan, mostly because any time I see Pierce Brosnan, I think,

man, they have not made a finer male. You know what, that's true. And I'm going to use this season, if you will, of James Bonding, to work on my Pierce Brosman appreciation because I like the man. Wow. And I'm going to try to find some redeemable qualities in his films. I like the man a lot. I like him as an act.

actor and other films. Sure. Now, Jinks has just exited the water with the belt for Honey Rider, the Honey Rider belt, if you will. And here comes... Magnificent view. God. Did they just cut his

dialogue, or was he just spacking his lips? I don't know what that one. Too bad it's lost on everybody else. They're cut... Oh, it's because I have one earphone. Oh, yeah. You're not hearing the left or the right. Jacinta Jean-Saint. Our friends call me Jinks. My friends call me James Bond.

Jinks, you say. Bonn on Friday the 13th. I know what they're saying. You're not hearing it, though. It's terrible. I'm aware. My relationships don't seem to be fast. Also, he's basically blowing cigar smoking. I know the feeling.

The predators usually appear at sunset. And why is that? It's when their prey comes out to drink. Two strong. for you. I can learn to like it. It's crazy to think this is... I can learn to like it if I have the time.

It's such a weird way to deliver that line. Isn't it strange to think this movie butts up against Casino Royale? They're next to each other in the chain. Ornithologist. It might be the craziest jump in movies. Is it the biggest disparity between...

Because you have like moonraker and for your eyes only. We skipped over the part where she looks at his dick and says that's a mouthful. Oh boy. After saying ornith. Is that a, that's a callback to the book? To the book by James Bond, Birds of the West Indies. Everybody's favorite book.

So, what are you going to do with that? So they were going to spin her off into her own franchise. I'm not, I don't know exactly what happened, but a couple things. If they try to do this. I could see how they do it. It's really easy to see an M movie, a Moneypenny movie. Sure. You know, I like a Felix Lider movie, especially with Jeffrey Wright.

I would love to see. Now this is starting to win me over. Oh my God. You're talking yourself into this. I know because I don't like the idea. I'm afraid they're going to abuse it and it's going to get tired. Like I'm worried about that with Star Wars. But a Felix Sleider movie with Jeffrey Wright, that makes it worth it to me, I think.

I would watch that for sure. Especially if it's the one where he's got one leg and one arm and the other ones are, you know, like from the novels and the movie. Yeah. I wonder if there, here's my real worry. I just don't, we talk about it a little bit in the Roger Moore Tribute episode, but I just, the real fear I have is them making James Bond a code name. Oh, yeah, you can't do that. I can't, you can't, they would, huh, if they did that? Mm-hmm.

I just don't. But would that be worth it to have a Felix Lider movie? Let me, let me pitch on this. You got Jeffrey Riders Felix Lider. Uh-huh. You bring back David Harbour as that CIA guy. Mm-hmm. I loved him in Quantum Assault.

Oh, so unlikable. but played so well. I played poker with David and genuinely enjoyed him as a human being. Did you talk about quantum solace at all? No. Why not? I don't know. We're all high on stranger things when we were playing.

Oh, but, you know, maybe I can get him on the show. Please do. It'd be fun. I like that guy, especially in Quantum of Solis. Yeah. So much. A lot of flip phones in Quantum of Solace. Yeah, that's true.

So you got an money penny movie, which I actually think I would enjoy. An M movie I would love. Yes. See, when I really think about this, with Ray Fines. Yeah. But it becomes a, I think it becomes an untenable situation. I agree.

Where there's too many balls in the air. It's a real careful what you ask for. The product I think might suffer overall. Then when a Jay's Bond movie comes out, is it that special? Right. That's a good point. And when you look at Spector and how they tried to merge everything together, it didn't...

They really were. They tried to crowbar everything in. Because then are you getting into post-credit sequences where there's a tesseract and... Oh, God. Shit. Yeah. I don't know.

But should we save this for its own episode where we spin the wheels of which villain and henchmen get their own movies? If we save everything for another episode, this episode will not exist. We need 20... I know, but how long are we already in on this? The timer's over here.

Let's say we're at 45 minutes. Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, we're doing a great job. I think we could do a Bond Universe episode. Something, yeah, there's definitely something there. I also would like to hear people's opinions on the Bond Universe episode. So we'll set that up. We'll tee it up right now.

We're all, we have the next, like, two months plans. This is what it's got to be because we got 24 films. Who's worried about it? I'm not worried about it. We're going to fill it out. We're going to be like, by the way, oh, my God, we have to do two this week. There's too much to do. That's right.

That's right. But yeah, so that's my big worry is them making Bond a codename because it just destroys the series. Destroes the franchise. How are they going to explain the skyfall grave then? It retroactively destroys the franchise. How are they going to explain the skyfall grave? Yeah. It's a good question.

It's a great question. I think they were smart to put that in because it makes it difficult to... Yeah, I just don't know why people can't just enjoy a floating... timeline. But aren't you the person that said that he's a Doctor Who time lord? Well, I said that would be my explanation for everything. But if he's a Doctor Who Time Lord, he's the same person. I don't think, I don't think it needs any of these explanations. Listen, if he's a time lord and he's constantly regenerating, which also explains why they have slightly different personalities, but they have the same memories because they are the same being. I'll tell you what, I'm a

purist when it comes to, you know, my Star Wars and my James Bond. If it ain't in the movies, or say the Fleming is its own canon. You have your fun with it, but don't come to me like this is really happening. Right. You codenamer's out there. Let me tell you, here's something I'm going to throw at you.

You are on the record as being a Star Wars fanatic. Fan. Force freak, as we're calling me. No. You can't get enough Star Wars. Every time I see you, you're like, hey, have you seen the news on this Han Solo movie? Or just like, hey, want to play Star Wars?

You want to talk about it. I'll be Darth Vader. I'm like, Matt, I'm a grown man. I don't want to do any of this. You're saying this as you look over and see that I have a death star. I will say. I will say. I know.

I did watch Rogue One last night and then went straight into Inside Living Day Day. Sure. Because Amanda's out of town. But here's the thing, though. Would you want, because we got Rogue One. Yeah. You know, we had the Force Awakens. We had Rogue One.

we have the Last Jedi coming out. Aren't you like a little less excited for The Last Jedi than you would be had there not been a Rogue One? Possibly. Yeah, I think when you take it one year farther into the Han Solo movie, which is where I was really like, do we need this? Yeah. I don't think we need this. You don't think we need it. I think Rogue One was a great reason to do a standalone.

Rogue One was so beautifully done. And what I liked most about Rogue One was the set design. All the buttons and everything felt and looked 70s. Yeah. Like, you know, 70s Star Wars. Now, what if they're doing a universe thing, but they're doing, they're jumping all over like Star Wars is, so they're doing 60s Bond or 60s Moneypenny or 60s M or lighter?

I see a little glimmer of... There's certainly, listen, there's certainly ways to go about doing it. I just, I think, I don't know though, but. I did not expect to argue the side of it. I think I'm just playing devil's advocate because ultimately I wouldn't want to do it. But also, we're not getting Bond movies except every three and four years now. Oh my God. I think, I feel like this one's going to be five years or something.

I'm dying. What are we at now? We're at two years now? And then we're theoretically getting Daniel Craig back. How do you feel like he's my favorite bond? He's very close to my favorite bond. Next to Roger Moore. I mean, he's so very good, yeah.

But I thought maybe there was a little bit of fatigue inspector from him. And so I'm hoping if he's doing one last film, he'll come back with some real energy. Vigour? A little vigor. But even him at his listless, like certain level of listlessness, I still love. But do you think that his performance inspector was, was Daniel Craig coming through? Do you think that was what he thought James Bond was feeling? I think maybe the reason I bring it up is it felt a little Daniel Craig.

Yeah? I mean, I can see that for sure. It was, like, it feels like the whole movie was that scene in Raiders where he's supposed to have the sword fight, but then shoots the guy. A little bit. Because he's not feeling well. I particularly notice it when they're escaping the crater and he's walking. And I know that's a character's choice. Like, it's very clear.

But there's something about even the walking that feels like, it's hot out. Yeah. You know. It's hot out. My ACL was recently torn. Yeah. I mean, he went through a lot. He did.

He went through hell in that movie. But come back. I mean, he's incredible. He, we don't deserve him. No. He's very good. We'll never see the likes of him again, I don't think. I could almost agree with that.

I wouldn't want to follow him. What do you do? What do you do with the story? I was so surprised by him. Yeah. I was genuinely surprised by him. I'm going to say I was hopeful from the very beginning with him. Well, you hated Pierce Brous.

hasn't in so much. I didn't hate him. I liked the man. Really just violently. But that aside, I had seen Munich and was like, this is going to be something different. Munich and had he done? Layer kick. Yeah.

Yeah. He's such a, he's such a rugged man. He's gorgeous. He's rugged. He's not even gorgeous. He's like a fine aged leather. Yeah. Or you're like, ooh, that's comfy.

You know? Yeah, I do know. That's Daniel Craig to us, and I don't want to break in new leather. No one wants to do that. No. No. I have two pairs of boots over there. One is, like, has probably hundreds of miles of walking in them.

You keep all your shoes in the same room as all your guitars. Yes. So if there's a fire? I know where to go. Okay. It's like, I have to get the shoes so I can take the guitars outside. Okay. So that's what I would do.

All right. To be honest, my wife took all the closet space in our bedroom area. And because I have a giant office, it's just, that's where everything goes. I understand. That's a giant, I say. Our house is very small with the office. No, that's a good size office. It's bigger than mine.

Well, it's not as cool as yours. I don't have a leather door. I'm doing a real Ken Adam thing in there now. Oh, what are you doing? I'm putting some, like, leadstone in and mixed in with wood. How is the How is your Home Depot situation going?

I feel like you and Home Depot are like me. He's my Blofeld. Home Depot is my Blowfeld. Yet you keep going back to Blofeld. Because I'm not proud of it, but there's nothing within miles of me that's even cool. I go to a local hardware store whenever I know they will have something. Sure.

But if I need something that I know Home Depot has, I'm nowhere near Lowe's. I much prefer Lowe's. Sure. I like orchards. but they don't care nearly as much as Hombard does suffer in selection. We haven't gotten off on a tangent by any chance. This is not, this is what this podcast is.

People love James Bond and us. Mostly James Bond. Flawlessly and never, without exception, there are never any issues. Anyway, every time I go there, they don't have what their app says that they're going to have. And then when I ask someone, they say, you should, you should have a visual before you come in. It's not my fault. I got to go. You should have a visual, meaning you should call the story.

or have someone go look at it. Yeah. But it says the Alhambos store has got it in stock. Do you then... Do you buy online, throw in the cart? I get on the ground and I throw a tantrum and I start weeping. We got to work on this, Matt. All right.

We're back. James Bond 25. No one's signed yet. There's talk of a cinematic universe. Is this because of different producers? And where is this talk coming from? I don't know if I believe this rumor. Well, let me take a look.

I'm going to look right now. Because we're also approaching time when they're going to start phasing in. It's Michael Wilson's son, right? Yes. Will likely be the heir apparent. Right. And I'm wondering how much of a role he's getting at this point. Because, you know, I think Barbara Broccoli, yeah, Barbara Broccoli is going to be around for quite a while.

Oh, Babs. I mean, come on. She's great. She's producing her theater in between. So here it is. Okay. Producers are looking at other corners of the Bond franchise. Where is this report?

coming from this is from the independent dot co. Okay. Which is a blog website. It seems there's

no franchise on the planet that's immune from cinematic universe fever. There's still been no official word at who

our actual James Bond is with rumors work has already started on the next installment's screen play while Daniel Craig's

involvement is still unconfirmed. Indeed, the actor's gone from stating he'd rather slash his wrist then play 007 again to confessing,

I get a massive kick out of it, and if I can keep getting a kick out of it, I will. Everything is seemingly up in the area, producers are still rumored to be looking at a massive expansion of the franchise. The tracking boards, Jeff Snyder, has reported that producers have caught that universe fever and would love to explore other corners of the Bond franchise simultaneously. What if they did it sparingly,

and it's not like a Disney thing where they're like, we have to have a Bond movie every year? that I might be able to handle. I would love to see a Felix lighter movie. And what kind of a timeline? What if this is a gambit they're running to get Daniel Craig on board? Or to get, no, I bet you it's to get their distribution partner on board. They can smell the money in the water.

Yes, but also if they're saying to Daniel Craig, listen, Daniel, I know this takes a lot out of you, but we're only looking to do it once every four years. You mean because we're going to have so many other, Movies going. But he's not, after this next one, another four years? How much do you think he's gotten him? How old is he now? 50?

At least. 42? He's handsome. He's 15. We know that. Boy, we got to look it up. Again, lovers, not experts. Lovers not experts.

This is, I love this, by the way. It really defends us from another class action lawsuit. He's 49 years old. He's not 50 yet? He's not 50 yet. God, he looks great. Born in Chester, England. Well, okay, so the next.

movie won't be out even in 2018. Right. So it's going to be 2019. He'll be 51 when it comes out. If he waits four more years, he'll be 55, which is one year or two years less. How old was Roger Moore when he did Vue to a Kill? 56 or 57. 507.

Something like that. Lovers, not experts. This saves us. That was brilliant. I feel so much better about that because part of the reason I stopped reading the email that we get is because, inevitably, when you do a podcast about a franchise that is a property. facts that are wrong. There's a truth police squad out there.

They're on Twitter. Do your best to resist that as much as possible. However, if it's something we're genuinely curious about or confused about and you have an answer, by all means, let us know. But when we're talking about something and we're just like, I think this, lovers. That means we don't necessarily know. Lovers, not experts. Thank you. I appreciate it.

This is a new slogan. And I'm glad that everybody's on board for this new branding of James. James Bond thing. The main reason I don't want a universe is because it's being done and James Bond is sort of notorious for copying, whether it's a style of film like a black exploitation film like Live and Let Die or even you could make a case for Casino Royale copying the Bourne style. Yeah. But that was done so well.

I don't know. I just, yeah, it's a, it's a slippery slope, I think. You go and no? I don't want it, no. Yeah, I don't think I do either. I just can't imagine I can't imagine that many movies just like why

yeah but theme park oh my god and we'll talk about that theme park in upcoming episodes guys I just want you to know that we're very excited about being back

we cannot wait to entertain you for for another 52 weeks of fun we're only contracted for 50 but we might do the extra too I mean who knows what if what if the theme park I feel like the theme part could be a two-parter. I feel like it could be a 50 part.

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I didn't do it. Not that you were blaming me. James Bond is back. Catch the flavor. We almost forgot. We have to tell everyone what movie we're watching, Matt. You're right. How could we ever forget?

It's maybe the most important thing about this episode. Actually, literally the most important thing about this episode. It's the reason we're here. It's the only reason we exist. It's to watch James Bond movies and talk about them. so our fans can enjoy it with us. And to be clear, the Roger Moore retrospective is still next, but then two weeks from this episode will be the first film.

Two weeks from this, correct. And what's your criterion for choosing? Is it going to be one you want to see, one you don't want me to see, one that you want to get rid of, one that you're excited to see? Well, I think first out of the gate, coming in real hot,

I'm going to probably pick one that maybe you hate. You're really going to start this whole thing off? with Tomorrow Never Dies? I don't know what you're talking about, man. Why would I start it with that movie? I feel like I got to go with something I'm excited to see, talk about, and really enjoy. Maybe one that we both really enjoy. Oh, I see.

You want to really just spruce up the joint with an episode about love. We're lovers, not experts. That's true. Well, but I'm not going to tell you how to choose, and I accept your challenge if you choose it. What do we got to flip here? So we're flipping a two-pound coin brought to us by the United Kingdom, and my last trip to London. Perfect.

Heads, obviously, is Queen Elizabeth's head. Tail is what looks like a butthole. Let me see that. Oh, yeah, that's the royal butthole. Yeah. What is tails on a British two-pound coin? Prince Phillips, but. It's amazing.

Okay. It's the crown. It's crowning. It's, that's interesting. It's, oh, it's little cogs. Oh. Oh, God, their money is way cooler. I agree 100%.

Wow. Love it. It's probably, is it like the cog of Big Ben or something? Maybe. We're lovers not expense. That's right. All right. Do you want to flip it?

We're going to flip the coin. You can choose heads or tails because that's how coin flipping goes. Okay. In the air, he's going to choose it, everybody. Butthole. It is heads. Oh, shit. Do your worst.

Well, see, the natural inclination would be to make Matt watch Tomorrow Never Dies. But just the look in his eyes, like a scared deer in headlights, made me say, well, I'm not going to force him to do that. You don't have to. I'm not going to force you to do tomorrow and ever dies. You're kind of. But I would like you to start to appreciate Pierce Brasen a little bit more this year. Okay. So we're going to start with Golden Eye.

All right. I'm up for that challenge. I'm excited to see it. Yeah. And to find, I like Golden Eye. So that's a good one. Yeah. We're just going to really just sort of absorb what it was like to enter the world of James Bond in the early 90s, mid-90s.

And just sort of let's see, let's see what we can find to love about Pierce Brosnan. There will be many things. That's a deal. So tune in next next week. That's the next next next. Two weeks from this episode for Golden Eye. Deal. Now, back to Matt.

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