James Bonding - Bonus: BOND25 RUMOR VS. FACT

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Matt and Matt take to the tabloids to discuss how much of the latest Bond25 news is fact and how much is fiction. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt and, Matt and, James Bonding Podcast. Hello, listeners. One quick note before we begin. We recorded this podcast just as the, let's say, the news about the potential other villain in this. Bond 25 was dropping. No spoilers. And then after that, the other big news dropped about the potential other let's say agent involved. So, stay tuned at the end of this episode where we recap that big news drop after the fact. But for now, please enjoy.

Matt and, Matt and, Matt and, James Bonding podcast. Welcome to James Bonding. I'm Matt. I, and you're never going to believe this, am also Matt. Shut the front door. I opened the front door. I've come into the house and I've delivered this news. But this is your...

house. Why would you open the front door to come in? You're already here. Because I went out the back door to tell you my name's Matt. Oh, wow. That all makes a lot of sense, Matt. Today on the podcast, we're going to pit rumor versus fact. Yes. And then probably in our, in our attempt to figure out what's fact, just stoke the fires of rumor more. Well, yeah, here's the deal. We have seven, we went on the The Bond 25 from MI6HQ, the great Bond fan site. And we were looking down the list of the recent Bond 25 stories they have. And what turns out, it happens to be, Matt, seven of them. We haven't really discussed.

Yeah. 007. We've, that's right. It's perfect. We've kind of, you know, played with these a little bit on some of the commentary intros. But also today, big, big breaking news, possible rumor. By the time you hear this, it'll be.

four-day-old news or rumor, and we're going to tell you if it's news or rumor, by rating each item on a scale of 00-O-O, which means it is definitely not a thing. Falsus can be. To 007, which means you can count on that shit. The Lord Jesus James Bond Christ himself has ordained this is gospel truth. If you can't count on 007, Matt, what can you count on? You're exactly right. Oh.

You know, I am so grateful we're not going through any of these long. Ruts of No Bond movie. Just kidding. What is the longest distance between Bond films? Is it still licensed to kill to Golden Eye? That was 1989 to 1995. Six years? That must be.

Yeah. Right? But I mean, I feel like Daniel Craig sometimes toys with us and it feels like it's six years between movies. When was Spector, 2015? Yeah. So we're about, we'll be five hours. 12.

So that was three years? Yeah, but it was... Felt like five. Four years from Quantum of Salas. Wow. But so Spector to Bond 25 will be five years. That doesn't beat it. It's too much time, though.

Six years in the old school of production, you could have gotten... Six movies. Six movies. It's crazy. Oh, my God. Could you imagine we had six hastily thrown together to jail Craig movies? Yeah, I can. You know what I think?

Instead, we got two out of four. I think they'd be better. Maybe. Yeah. Because just by like the numbers. Yeah, and not as much as riding on them. You know, it's not like, oh, we're not going to get one for so much longer. This one's got to be great.

I can't wait. Right. We don't do a foolish commentary or rather a foolish podcast where we're just like, this was great. We loved it so much. And then have to revisit and go, we might have been a little wrong. And then years later have to go, yeah, it's not so good. We were wrong.

We were wrong. So we're going to take you through generally seven of the most recent rumor or news. bits to come out of Bond 25. So the first one comes from June 19th, and Kerry Fukunaga pushes back on tabloid claims of being late to set. This is all coming from MI6HQ.com, which really the premier news site. They actually do handle this stuff really well. They have good journalistic standards.

They don't print rumors, or if they do, they label them as such. They're not like the tabloids going crazy over there. Well, look, you know, I think it's easy to figure out how. how to have some journalistic integrity when you're only covering literally one subject. Yeah. Right. Which is the subject we cover on this podcast with no integrity. Thank you for still listening to us.

Yes. Two more commentaries coming your way. Yeah. What are they going to be? Well, that's up to us. I have a feeling if our discussion today was any indicator there are going to be those two. Yeah, it feels like one great and one not so great. That's right.

And we have different feeling. Well, actually, I think both are great. I know. So now you can figure out probably what one of them is. That's great. So, Matt, what's going on with Carrie Fukenaga, according to the sources relayed here? Is he too handsome? He is very handsome, and that's a fact.

We can dispel that as rumor. Carrie Fukenaga, good looking fellow. I'd give that a 007. That's right. Well, there's tabloid stories that he was three hours late to set, the director, of course, because he was involved in a very intense PlayStation gaming session. Interesting. I know a little bit about this because I, Matt, am a big PlayStation 4 gamer.

Oh, particularly a little Red Dead redemption deuce. Oh. Which I feel like might be the game in question here. You may be right. Who knows. Now, no, it's in there. You're right. Wait, it does?

Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah, right. So, look, here's the deal. Carrie Fukunaga, this comes out. He's saying there's not a minute on this job that isn't scheduled, even on a shoot, not a shoot day, hours before call, he's there between take, setups. He's always there.

Sure, it's hard. but it's still the best job in the world, he says. I'd never disrespect the hard working casting crew. We're all on this together. As for my PS4 relationship, if my Red Dead Redemption 2 progress is my any indication, I've been sent it at 63% for months. And if anyone spoils the end for me, I'll wrap on Bond 25. I'm going to be pissed.

I think this is a horseshit rumor because the way a production goes is there's often a lot of downtime. and even someone like the director might be just sitting there waiting for lights to be hung. And I'm sure there's work that could be done, but who knows if they're waiting on script rewrites? He goes in his trailer. He decompresses and comes out three hours later. I was going to say three years later, but on a bond schedule, that may be real.

He comes out a few hours later and they're ready to go, but it seems like they were waiting on him. I'm going to give this 001. Well, because I'm a Red Dead fan and player, I'm going to bump it up a little bit, Matt, to a 002. The game could be just that bewitching. The game is genuinely that bewitching. I know your closest friends have gotten you attempted to try to get you into this game. Yeah, James Bladen really wants me to play, and Paul Lufthampton has gone as far as to buy me the game. Yeah, and I've said that I will one up Paul and buy you a playstick. Well, that's what I need because I don't have, he bought me the

game, but I don't have a console anymore. But, you know, if I know James and Paul, I think they're Xbox Oneers, aren't they? Yeah, I believe so. So I'd have to get you an Xbox One. Well, no, but I think he bought me a PlayStation 4 because it's what I think. Perfect. That's the best version. Okay. So I can't let you do that.

No, no, I think that might be what we have to do here. No way. Matt, when you get a horse and you name it, you can spend time brushing that horse. I would name it. Inferno. Because I'm Javis in a saddle. Oh. I do, my current horse is named Roger after Roger Moore.

I've had many horses, and each one, every time I lose a horse, it's heartbreaking. How do you lose a horse? Sometimes in a gunfight. Oh, my God, this game is too emotional for me. And my horse takes a tumble on top of me. I can't do it. I die. The horse dies.

I can't do it. That's why I make sure Matt to carry at least 10 vials of horse revive on me at all times. Just in case. If it's a near-fatal injury I can recover from, I'll bring that horse back. Let's really quickly throw in what other information we might know about this. Kerry Fukunaga is an acclaimed director, True Detective, Season 1, Beasts of No Nation, Maniac. So obviously he gets his work done. Some of the hit movie It before he was...

Yeah. But now there's something to throw into the mix, the fact that he was involved on it and then wasn't. Also, I think he had quite a feud with Nick Pizzolato. through season, like the end of season one of true detective so much so he didn't come back and they kind of took a dig at him in season two with a character that looked a lot like him. And so maybe he is contentious in some way. That's why I'm willing to put it on 001 and not 000. I know some people who know who have worked with Mr. Fuganaga.

And, you know, what they will tell me is he's absolutely super talented guy. Yeah. but not a great collaborator. So, which I find, when I saw the choice made of Carrie, I was like, that's interesting to me because Michael G. Wilson and Barbara, Brockley, not exactly known for giving over the reins completely. All on their own. Although, I think they, it seems like with Mark Forster, they did quite a bit.

he was able to kind of do his his film that feels like a Mark Forster vision to me more than a Bond film than what are we left with you know I know I'm just saying also there was the rumor that Daniel Craig and Kerry Fuganaga were having an argument on set but the pictures of that were just like

they just stared at each other's eyes and we're like how can we mad at each other yeah you're a James Bond and I'm a handsome director yeah but I just don't think those pictures are any evidence of that they could easily just be having a serious discussion about the shot that they were about to do. So we're saying, late to set, averaging between the two, I say a one, you say a two, it is a 1.5. 001.5, one of the greatest MI6 agents ever. He was probably, 001. Do you think he was the first double O?

He must have. Wow. I wonder what he was like. Okay. These are, again, the seven most recent news developments for Bond 25 and this next one. Isn't really? Well, look, they're saying countries are getting added to the locations. We already know Jamaica's involved. We already know London is involved. Oh, yes, we should mention some minor spoilers if you're listening.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of this takes place in a mine. Yeah, minor spoilers. With children. Like a view to a kill. Yeah. And that is that this production, at least a location,

will be going to Cuba once again. but not necessarily on location. I think they may be shooting Jamaica for Cuba. So they're going to go to Cuba again. That's interesting. Do you think that they will be looking for Delectados? Delectados. We have not made Delectados for 30 years.

So we know we've got Jamaica, possibly Cuba. That's the rumor we're disgusting. As half Cuban, I'd like to say, we. As Mark Cuban, I'd like to say, how did I get in here? also Norway sharks you know how you're always trying to make a movie but you're late to set for playing video games Norway and Italy and of course London yeah sure London's confirmed yeah how could London not be in a James Bond movie has it ever happened no I don't know wait a minute you've always got to have a scene in the in em's office although and you only live

twice em's office is a crooked boat no that's man with the cold and gun. I'm sorry. But you only live twice, correct with him wrong. And you only live twice. Fake his death into the thing, into a regular boat, not crooked. Right? Does that one go into?

I don't think they go to London. Interesting question. By the way, I would love to see an MI6. I would like to see Ray Fines' office abroad. What does that look like? Yeah, they need to do more of that. Like, I would love to see like this field office that. is clearly a very fancy his office.

Yeah. And how many does he have? He just goes to the nicest restaurant, like, rules. You know, I think he does. He stands on an empty plot of land, and they just use his posture as the level, and they start putting up... He's a natural perfect plum at level.

They start putting, you're just left there with so many perfect studs. All laser levels are calibrated on Ray Finds M posture. I mean, come on. It's just the best. It's the best there ever has been. Let's read this. Regular listeners to the James Bond and Friends podcast, which is a podcast I listen to and enjoy, will know that we have kicked around the possibility that Bond 25 will feature a location that was not announced at the media reveal back in April. Cuba kept popping up as a potential locale for Bond 25, even though the production had not confirmed. It's recent use in Die Another Day and Golden Eye and the impracticalities of filming there. And My Six understands that some additional filming in Jamaica was actually double. in Cuba. Jamaica will also appear as Jamaica in the first act of the film. Today, actor Dalai Ben Salah posted a shot of an outdoor set at Pinewood Studios on Instagram that is a

recreation of a Cuban street. Residents near Pinewood Studios have been notified that Bon 25 will be filming a shootout sequence and to expect noise. It is probable that this action sequence being captured at this month at Pinewood is the Outdoor Cuba sets. Wow. So you get little flyers in your mailbox if you live near pinewood studios to well they have to if they're going to be like making explosions happen et cetera yeah all right here we go what tells us that is cuba i don't think that's cuba hmm i'll tell you why i don't think that's cuba why i don't see any old american cars oh there is there's there's there's a there's a 50 that's got to be 57 Chevy right yeah well everybody knows and there's a green screen back there yeah yeah and there's a green screen back there

Yeah, and it says this way to Delectados. And there's a huge sign that says you're definitely in Cuba. Oh, also the Cuban flag. Oh. And look at this. That was the seventh thing we've mentioned. The screen part here, that could be anything. It could be a giant cigar.

Or Fidel Castro. Or they could just green screen in Daniel Craig having a good time. Oh, yeah. Or just Michael kissing Fredo Corleone. Do we think Daniel Craig is having a good time right now wherever he's? he is. Yeah. I don't know. It's a fun. Okay. Local time to Daniel Craig. I don't know where he is right now, but if I had to guess, is Daniel Craig having a good time right now? I'm going to 100% say no. I would probably always wager no, too. Yeah. So what do we got here? We got some sort of Aston Martin

looking vehicle. Oh, wait. Should we rate the veracity of the Cuba? Of the Cuba plant? Well, based on the Cuban flag and our awesome detective work that probably No other podcast, James Bond and Friends or other, would do such detective work as us. Yeah. By literally pointing at things and saying what we see. Based on that, I'm going to give it a 006. I'm going to go 006.5. Wow.

And that 0.5 of uncertainty is just like maybe they're doing red herrings, you know? Yeah. What if they put that flag up between takes to go like, yeah, sure, sure, it's Cuba. Yeah. Wink, wink, one. Or what if it's the Cuban embassy in Jamaica? Whoa. Oh, I'm back down to a.

I'm a 006 then. Wow, me too. Yeah. That's a double six. You already were. Yeah, yeah. So you're staying there. Yeah, all right, so that's a 006 from your boys.

Based on your own doubts, I don't have to move down. Right. I already had those doubts. Number three, new wheels for 007 arrive at Pinewood Studios. Although its inclusion in the film has yet to be officially confirmed by either Aston Martin or Eon Productions, UK tabloid, the sun has published a photo of the new battery powered 200 mile per hour plus. Jesus. Aston Martin Valhalla arriving on set at Pinewood Studio is ready for Bond 25 filming.

The 1.5 million hypercar, of which only 500 will ever be built, was unveiled this week. A source told the paper, it's been a miserable few weeks. Things went from bad to worse with Daniel's injury and then the set explosion. But now the Bond car has arrived and Daniel is on the mend. It's the best bit of news they've had for a long time. They're still way behind schedule, but the car adds that little bit of sparkle. Now that's a source, quote source. Let me just say right now, that fucking name, the Aston Martin Valhalla, is the greatest car name I've ever heard in my life.

So they always do like a VA, like Vantage. Vanquish. Vanquish. Valre. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Valante, I think. Yeah, but isn't that usually their name for any convertible? I don't know.

And then the, yeah, I suppose if it's not a David Bradford. DB, you know. Yeah, I'd be surprising if the new Ashton Martin wasn't in there, but there's also... I don't see him driving a hypercar. What's a hypercar? Hypercar is beyond supercar. So like, give your supercars, right? Which would be like your Ferrari whatever's.

Why wouldn't he drive a hypercar? Because the hypercar is like so impractically not, like, where is he going to go and be a spy in a fucking $1.5 million car. But that's never changed anything. I know, but he's always in like a reasonable grand tourer. Wait, inspector, he was in that shark looking.

That was a DB 11, which was technically really DB 10, which was a reasonable vehicle for him to be in because he was being chased by it. The Lotus was a future car at its time. Even the DB5 was like. No. I have to say hypercar was, he's never done it before.

he's never had a hypercar well maybe it'll be a Q branch kind of thing or something it's also like maybe he's has to go undercover at a at some sort of a fancy race it looks like like a roadster

from like a 60s Le Mans race yeah I mean it's a legit I think it's for their E the indie E series they made this thing oh I got a friend you got a friend in me

Hi, Kitty. Yeah, to pray. Let's see if we can get her purring on mic. Can you hear that? I have no headphones, so. All right. Now, I hope that this is in there as just some kind of bullshit product placement anything because the fact that he's driving Timothy Dalton's Aston Martin,

I love it. I love that they've moved off the DB5 and are kind of considering some of the later Aston Martins because I don't like the most recent Aston Martins. and honestly the DB5 it's had its new run for a while. Let's give it, let's give the other ones some time. I'd love the Honor Majesty's one to come into it too. Yeah, I'd like to see the, I'd like to see the vanquish around. Yeah.

Invisible and all. So I think there's a reason this car is there. It will probably be in the movie, but maybe, I don't think it'll be any kind of significant role. I think it'll be maybe even some other characters driving it, possibly. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's just at the dealership when Bond picks out. Oh, wait a minute. I bet Rami Mollock drives this because he's like a tech genius. Evil crazy tech genius. Yeah, kind of test the guy. Yeah.

Whoa, that's our new, that's our new theory. I like that theory. Okay, so I give this a, I'll give this a 006 as well. Wow. I'm going to go to 004 on that, Matt. Oh, you don't think it's in the movie at all. No, no, I think it's in the movie. I don't think it's James Bond's car. The veracity of whether or not it's Bond's car. No, but they're saying whether or not it's Bond's car. No.

It's miserable, but the bond car has arrived. If you're calling it the bond car. Oh, okay. So then if we're going, is this bond car, I'm going 303. There we go. So this is a 004. So, okay. Yeah.

All right. So we're iffy on it. Yeah. We're iffy on that. Right. All right. Next up, Rami Mollick explains his Bond 25 work so far and changes to schedule. I believe this is accurate.

Romney, yeah, because it's literally probably from his mouth in a reporting session. Romi Malik gave a roundtable interview to the press on Monday night to promote the fourth and final season of his show, Mr. Robot, which is currently filming in New York and unveiled a lot of detail about Bond 25. On the subject of working with Daniel Craig, Mollock confirmed the pair are yet to share a scene. I haven't shot with Daniel yet, but I'm thrilled to work with him. Blank, blank. That was the audible blank of Romney. I know. Daniel is an actor I greatly admire.

Over the years, I think he's put in such phenomenal. Okay, that's fine. We don't need to praise him. I guess how do we frame this, Matt? In another interview yesterday, Malik confirmed he had filmed for a week on Bond 25 earlier in the year. We've already filmed in Norway for a week, he confirmed. That's where I got to work with director Fukunaga and our incredible cinematographer

Linus Sandgren. They are a great team. So far, it's good. So far, so great. He says, I feel a subs, or wait, I talked to Carrie yesterday and the schedule has been altered. I know that, but with a franchise like this, I think they have it together. They have it figured out by now regarding Craig's injury. I feel a substantial weight on my shoulders.

I mean, Bond is something that we all grow up with. The one thing I've gone from me is that I played one beloved Brit in Freddie Mercury, and I pulled that off so I feel like I can possibly have a shot at playing the villain in a Bond film. Another thing that I discussed with Carrie, I said we cannot identify him with any act of terrorism reflecting an ideology or a religious. That's not something I would entertain. So if that is why I am your choice, then you can count me up. But that was clearly not his vision. It's another extremely clever script from the people who have figured out exactly what people want in these movies.

And yeah, it's a great character. I'm very excited. I can't wait to shoot more soon. Well, this is a 007 in truth. Yeah, but that's also interesting. It's no, the ideology that I like that. I like that Romney won't play the terrorist angle of his heroism. heritage. I like that. Yeah, because he's what,

Egyptian, I think? He's just cool to do with big eyes. Yeah. But also, what's interesting about that, you know, if this is like an Elon Musk type guy, mm-hmm. I really hope that his plan is something akin to obtaining exclusive

bandwidth, like, Wi-Fi rides. Maybe in, like, China or something. No, no, please. No. For a hundred years? No. Could you imagine? What a plot. What are you given this one? that he's happy with it and that he's going to return to set and has not filmed with Dan Craig, I give that a 007 as well. I do as well, yeah.

Okay. All right. Next up. And now we're doing seven of these, but actually we're going to have to do eight because the one that is breaking right now, which we'll do last, is not on here, which means it must not be confirmed. Well, also, we just might be so far ahead of the schedule of them. They're pretty on top of it.

Anyway. American fashion designer. Yeah, double a seven. They wear a threat from American fashion designer. Okay. Billy Reed. American fashion designer Billy Reed may be providing more clothes for 007 in the 25th James Bond. Let me already tell you right now, Matt, Billy Reed, designer of the peacoat that James Bond wore in Skyfall.

Oh, I like that one. So it's already a brand favorite of Daniel Craig who wore that, owned that peacoat pre-bond. and I actually own a bunch of Billy Reed stuff and I think that they make terrific things. What else do you have of theirs? I have a couple of shirts. You know, I've got like a couple of baseball jersey shirts, you know? Yeah.

A couple of, I got two of their piquots, maybe three. Any of those piquots do I have? I got fatter and I got another one. No. So when I bounce back up and down on weight, you know, you got to have your piquots ready to go. Yeah. You can't be in the cold without a piquots.

No, you can't. I have a good piquet, too. I really like it. I wear it in the winter. In fact, I lament the fact that sometimes in L.A., even in the winter, it's not cold enough to wear a proper pcoat, you know? A proper pea coat. I love a New York pea coat ride, though. Yeah. Billy Reed says, as a kid growing up, it seemed like James Bond was the man who could do anything. Then Daniel Craig came in, and we got a call six months later asking if we had 30 peacoats. It was just one of those random things that happened. Wait. So when he wears that peacoat in Skyfall, they need 30 of those?

Well, they need 30 of them for many reasons. Because it's an action scene. It's an action scene. You don't want it getting torn. You don't want any blah, blah, blah. You got all stunt people going to wear it, too. But 30. That's crazy.

What if he spills tomato sauce on it? On 29 of them? What if Cubby Broccoli's ghost is making a big pot of spaghetti? Right? He hands it over. He says, Dan, you'll come over here. I got this big part of spaghetti for you. And Dan Craig's like, well, I'm filming the serve of his pico.

Don't worry. I haven't had much to drink. We got the shakes. We got 29 more. Don't worry about it. Give me that one. And he dips it in the sauce. Like some, you know, that's why I have it just in case of, in case Cubby

broccoli's ghost makes spaghetti on set. then I'd put this at a 006. I'd put it at a 007. I'm going to say that this is a fact. Oh, man. Because I know Daniel Craig, based on my long time ago podcast with him when he was on the nerdist podcast and I asked him, we talked about the clothes because I happened to be wearing a lot of the clothes.

Yeah. I also got to wear Daniel Craig's watch off his wrist. The greatest moment of my life, probably. Was it warm? No. Daniel Craig's watch. What did it feel? It felt like.

I was wearing the watch of James Bond. Oh, my God. It was an Omega. It was the Specter watch. Oh, he gave it to you to blow up. It was his personal Spector watch that he had had before the movie. He got to decide. He was like, I want something like, he's very fast.

Do you think he has to contractually, I know he is, but do you think because he does ads for Omega that he has to wear those? Out and about, yes, they do. Really? Yeah, all the, like. So like, you know, for instance, I feel like it's like Tiger Woods tag hewer. I feel like Bradley Cooper does a tag hewer maybe too. Somebody does Brightling, you know, like Cindy Crawford was an omega for a while. So if he's photographed by the paparazzi and he's not wearing one.

He gets in trouble. He gets fined and sometimes fired. From James Bond. All right. No, from the campaign. Yeah. This is a big one. Oh, my God.

What if he did get fired from being James Bond? Grace Jones walks out of rumored cameo role. She has been rumored to have a cameo role since April before the Bond 25 Media Reveal Day in Jamaica. But this week, the tabloids claim Grace Jones walked away from a 007 film return. The Sun reports the diva, 70, who played iconic villain May Day in 1985's of U to A Kill, walked away from the movie after discovering how few lines she'd been given. A source said Grace's 007 homecoming was meant to be a real crowd-pleasing moment. bosses were really excited about landing her.

Of course, she comes with a reputation, so they organized premium accommodation, rolled out the red carpet on set to make her feel welcome. But it turns out Grace was expecting to play a bigger role in the movie and took her brief cameo as a slight. She was out there quicker than it takes to rustle up a martini. That's a weird analogy. That makes me doubt the source a little bit.

That is very silly. I generally believe this, though. Well, it did seem to come from a few different places. Yeah, I believe that this happened, but the way that it happened, I don't know. Yeah. I think she might have been mad about something else. Maybe, yeah. Yeah, like it wasn't a cameo thing.

You don't roll in. I mean, although I don't know what Grace Jones' people tell her. Right. But was she never given her script before arriving on 25? I don't think you get scripts. I don't know. Maybe you'd get her page, you know, her page or pages. and then maybe she's under the,

maybe it's like Grace Jones's old-timey agent. Buby, Grace, listen. This is Bond 25. It's security's tight. So they're not going to send all your lines over. Gary Marshall's her agent? Just get on the plane and fly.

You just scared Margo away. I didn't. That was Gary Marshall. Well, I believe some version of this story is a 005 and 23. truth. Wow. Okay. I'll back that up with a 005 in truth as well. Two 005s makes a 0010. So it's way more than true. What if it's an 010?

Are there single O agents who have permits to kill? There was a 0011 in the books. Well, that makes sense that they would just keep the O in front, but you say you're a double O agent. Is there like an O agent? And is that because you've killed more or less? I think that's because you're not licensed to kill. you've oh that's probably you've got your first kill but you're not licensed yet because you got to get two to become a double o it takes two each a double o each o is a is a kill all right i wonder if anybody ever

retired with just the double or just the oh i'm sorry you know what i've got i've killed one and one person i feel good about it i'm going to go sleep all right press conference to be this is the last one from the m i6 site and then we'll cover the big rumor for today press press press conference to be held in Matera, Italy for local residents on Friday. Yeah. A press conference will be held in Matera, Italy, to inform local residents about the Bond 25 filming that is due to take place there in August and September. The event will be held at 10 a.m.

Okay, yeah. It's probably like, we're going to close every street. We're going to make your life a living hell. And we're going to blow up a lot of stuff around you. Yeah. Okay. Now for the big news. This is really what we've been.

In fact, let's get rid of that. that Matera, Italy one. That's not even part of it. This is the 007 one. Okay. Now, this is from the Guardian, which is... King of the not news. No, they're not...

That might be news. No, no, no. The Guardian is the big paper. Yeah, this is not a tabloid. This is like their New York Times over there in England, essentially. We've been expecting you, Christoph Waltz, returning as Blofeld for Bond 25. 007's nemesis from Spectre has been spotted at Pinewood Studios in London, where the latest James Bond movie is being shot.

But also he could be there for anything. I know. That's why we got to, you know, we got to rate this. I'm just saying. We've got to talk about what's real and what's not. The much rumored return of Christoph Waltz's blowfeld to the James Bond series appears to have been confirmed after the actor was spotted at the studio where the latest film is being shot.

A visitor to Pinewood Studios tipped off the Daily Mail's entertainment reporter Bazba Migboy. Now, he's almost always right about his things. He's a, he is a, he is a known source of, of, Hard news. However, many people on the, you know, the Bond grapevine and the circuit have been saying his sources may have retired from the franchise because he's been doing a lot less reporting on Bond 25. It may not have the ins that he used to have. Interesting.

Reporting that Waltz urged them not to spread the news of his involvement saying, You haven't seen me. You haven't seen me. Your delicious milk. You haven't seen me. Waltz's name was absent from the cast list unveiled in April when she, shooting began in Jamaica, but it had long been suspected that his cat-stroking super villain confirmed alive after a helicopter crash at the end of 2015 Spectre would reappear in the new

film. Scheduled for release in April 2020. However, it would seem Blofeld takes more of a backseat in Carrie Fuganaga's thriller with Rami Malik's batty taking center stage. Last month, Malik, whose parents are Egyptian, said he would have refused to take their whale. We already read that. Okay.

And then there's just the plot of the film. Wals is also set to play the new Woody Allen film. Didn't know that was still happening. for which principal photography is about to begin in Spain. The actor was absent from a pre-production press conference on Tuesday. Hmm. Hmm. Wow.

So, hmm. What do you think? Well, I think there's many things that could have been happening over here that aren't him in the role. I think he could have been working on something else at Pinewood. Pinewood is, you know, big studio. They shoot a lot of stuff there. Yeah. You know, just think back to the time when Octopussy and Superman 3 were shooting right next to each other.

Wow. That's right. And Spy Who Loved Me and The Shining? There you know. That's what I'm talking about. Pinewood is busy. So what if Christoph Walsh was over there working on a remake of Superman 3? That's a double of seven in truth.

Definitely. He's playing what? The Richard Pryor role? Superman. He's playing Superman. He's playing Superman. Lois. Lois.

I can't Lois. So, you know, I think it's highly probable that he's just swinging over to say hello. I mean, there are photos of Roger Moore and Christopher Reeve on set together, and it wasn't like Christopher Reeve in his Superman wig was in the movie. But what about this? You haven't seen me. That's just him being fun. You haven't seen me? I think it's generally real.

You haven't seen me? I got to go. Poof. I think it's, I think there's some truth to this. Now, I think it may be, and I kind of like this idea, like let's say maybe they're shooting the cold open is like to dispatch blow felt a bit like they did and for your eyes only so they can kind of get on with things. So like, yeah, delicate testing situation. But maybe, maybe they're going to find a way to neatly fold him in in a minor way that also gives you a little bit of connective tissue but also lets this be its own

movie. I mean, there's no reason that this, that Romney Malick cannot be a number five. Yeah. Or number three or whatever. Right. Like silver. Yeah. And Green and the Schieffra all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about, you know, like Dr. No. Like gold. Yeah. Not gold finger. Like Dr. No, like, uh, like, uh, Irma Bunt, like, you know, uh, Largo. Largo. Uh, all of these people were found to be working for Spector. Dr. No. of course, was not, Spector wasn't introduced yet. And that was retconned. Yeah.

So there is precedent for what they did. It just, for me, does it feel like something that they should be doing and having him in it? Of course. I think that this blowfell, you don't kill him at the end of the movie, then quite frankly, he's around. You got to do something with him. Or he's mentioned or not, you know what I mean.

Yeah. Or he's recast. Or, whoa, what if he's just in jail? Because they have him at the end. Bond has to go see him a la Hannibal Lecter to get some information on Rami Malach. So we get like a Mr. White kind of scene from Spector? A little bit.

You're a kite dancing in the typhoon? You're a kite dancing in a hurricane, Mr. Bond. I'm going to give this a 005. Wow. I think he's... You're really riding that high. Yeah. I'm going to give it a 002.

All right, so we're a double 3.5. Yeah, because I don't really, that's right in the middle. So it could be or could not be. That's interesting. Have we landed there? There's every reason he would be in this movie because of the ending of Spector. He's there at that time saying, you haven't seen me. I know he has said categorically he wouldn't be back.

But that's probably a negotiation tactic. Also, what if? Here's another scenario that could be happening. Yeah. what if he lost his keys while filming Specter and just came back to five years later you haven't seen me but have you seen my keys I'm back for some of your delicious milk

the milk at pine wood is unparalleled it is so good goody goody he could have been there for any reason is what I'm saying yeah and that you haven't seen me just I think is a good natured playfulness what if he's going to visit Barbara and Michael G. Wilson and what if it was never, you know, I don't, it's, because of the various versions of the scripts that we

heard were floating around, it seems like the, the parting of the, of Christoff and the franchise was, seemed pretty amicable to me. Well, he did say he was not coming back. Yeah, they're friendly. I think it's friendly, though. But that's, that was pretty a bold class time. But look. Benedict Cumberbatch was not con.

until he was con. Right. In the age of the internet spoiler, I think the bits of the nuggets of news and not news sort of melt together. A lot of outlets are playing this, like, or posting this, so the garden, NME, games radar. Well, yeah, games radar is great. Express.com at UK Cinema Blend.

Hmm. When does, how long had, how long did Jim's, Jimbo's ankle take him out for? What was it this time? Was it an ankle or a shoulder or what? Yeah, it was an ankle, I think. Now, we do have one other thing to talk about, and that is the title has not been released, but apparently it broke recently that they did have a title that they then decided not to use. Do you know about this?

No. And it's called A Reason to Die. That that was the big title that I think Purvis and Wade had given it, and they were considering that, but then decided not to use it. I don't love it. It does feel very generic. What if we call the property of a lady? And James Bond was the property of Madeline Swan. I like it.

The titles are the best when they're enigmatic and evocative, but also really have a part in the plot like Skyfall. But Die Another Day has nothing to do with that movie. Tomorrow and Everdyes kind of does. You know, like... Tomorrow and Everdyes, a thousand percent does because the newspaper is called tomorrow. I know, but I think that...

You know, in the future, the future is always coming. Those two could have been connected in any way. Skyfall is the mansion. It's his home. Casino Royale's good, Quantum of Solace. Though I like the sound of that title, most people don't hold on.

Here's what you like. You like the name... You like when it's named after a building he will be in. The Casino Royale. Skyfall. They should just call one, MI6. A view to a killer. It's named after the view he had.

HMV. So. A reason to die. Is that supposed to lead us to believe that perhaps maybe he is, they are going to kill James Bond in this film? Where do you land on that, by the way? On whether they kill him or not? Yeah.

Whether it's true or do I like it? I'm going to say you don't like it. Well, I think it's virtually certain they're not going to kill him because that was apparently the reason that, Danny Boyle left is because he wanted to kill Bond. But what if it was reversed? What if Danny Boyle was like, I'm not going to kill James Bond? You don't kill James Bond.

I don't think that's not the story coming out of there. But don't you feel like Daniel Craig would be like, please, let's put this character out of his his character out of his name. Really? Well, then I think that shows some acknowledgement of the franchise in the history. Yeah, he's a steward of the franchise and he's got to pass on the man. I mean, they could just reboot again. I'm assuming they're going to reboot it again after Daniel Craig.

You think so? It seems weird if they carry his... Don't reboot it again. No, I know. Just do a different story. Give me the same M. I don't care. I agree. I'd love them to go into it and then just start doing one-offs again.

Well, we know this. We've been on it for 900 years here, but... Give me back... I don't want to sound like one of these old fuddy ditties. Yeah. One of these old... What do you call him? Star Wars fans or something where you're like, don't do this thing that's different.

Right. I want to say, do a thing that's different. But also, I would like to say, go back. Give me a little, give me a little bit of that old formula. Different in a new way. There's ways to do different that are good. And that brings us, I think, to our. Delicious milk.

Our delicious milk. This teaser, behind the scenes teaser that came out that I really liked. And you didn't love. Yeah. Did we watch it on one of the commentaries? I just want to play the music behind it because I really like the music. Oh. At least favorite.

Boom shot dis. Oh, for fuck sake, I can't get my browser working. You know, every time Matt goes on Vanity Fair, it begs him, please, please sign up to our email list. Don't leave me. Please send up to our email list. And Matt, every time says, no, sorry. I'm not interested. I have standards.

What's going on? What do you think about the rumor that Sith troopers will be in this? That's not a. Those dumb red stormsters, those don't look so good. What the hell is that? Let's just for a second here jump over to our other favorite franchise that is in Indiana Jones, Star Wars, and talk about the Sith trooper rumor. It's not a rumor.

Well, the Sith troopers existing. They're Red Stormtroopers that are kind of like a mix between a classic, a new, and a clone trooper. But what is it, you know, here's what I would like it to be. I would like it to be all clones of Palpatine in the Sith Trooper outfits. that were like a little wonky. Like one of them had like a club foot. One of them had like a philidamite arm. And then he was like, well, you're not going to possess my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my

Sith being. So you're just going to, I'm going to make you in my, you're going to be in my army. You're also me, though. What if that was it? I'd be ready for that. I just get sick of, like, you had this original trilogy and one storm to per was fine for three movies. And now every movie there has to be a new.

iteration of this thing, although it looks kind of cool. It does. I think it's a good looking design. The gun's cool. But to that point, it's just like, well, what, what, I mean, I guess wait and see, right? Yeah. But it's also like, what the hell? Who's, is this Kenner going like, you know, we need guys? I doubt it. Different looking stormtroopers. Um, did you like the teaser for the Rise of Skywalker? I did. I did. Yes, I did. I liked seeing Ray out there facing us. of the tie fighter or training with a tie fighter who knows yeah with what looks like kailo ren's tie fighter what about this i've got some instagram footage of the ashton martin james bond rolling out of his in london yeah astin martin his astin martin dalton that looks pretty cool

part of me wishes he had to go to some old folks home where all of the old james bonds were to borrow cars yeah i agree And then at one point he borrows a cello case. My favorite shot is him with that carpoon. I like seeing some Land Rover defenders. The colors look so good, like the primary colors, but they're kind of muted. Yeah, but this is all, this is not shot through their cameras. Yeah, some of it looks like it might be, though.

I don't know. I hope it looks like this. I'd like Felix Lider, you know, modern Felix Lider to just once not look like he's shit-faced. I love it. And over it. Oh, I think that looks great. Who's more tired the character-wise? Do you think Felix Leiter's character is more tired than James Bond?

Or do you think of James Bond's character is more tired? Because I feel like Felix doesn't have the sort of luxurious lifestyle of a James Bond. Yeah. He's very much more working class. I think he's more tired. He's like, because he always, he's like, I'm fucking up for this. Because even when he's handed the cell phone in Quantum of Solace, he doesn't even turn his head. He just uses his eyes like he's conserving energy.

He's totally. And also like, you know, even in Casino Royale, he just is like, yeah. Yeah. I thought you had a brother. I stay here. My brother from Lange. Brother, I thought you had him in the most ridiculous poker and history poker. All right.

All right. We've got about 15 more minutes of the podcast here, which I'm turning over to James Bond. not James Bond. I'm turning it over to Star Wars. I want to talk more Star Wars. Okay. Let's talk about that. I really want to.

So here's the, okay. Star Wars discussion begins right now and goes for the next 15 minutes. Let's talk about this Rise of Skywalker situation. Okay. Before Star Warsing, the official Star Wars podcast that is hosted by Man Met debuts. In 28. 49. We don't know when we're doing it, but we're doing it.

Copyright us. The Rise of Skywalker. Let's talk about the title. How do you feel about the title? I don't love the title, that's for sure. And what is it about the title you don't care for? Well, I'm sick of Rise. Return.

Well, I mean, return I'll take because at least that's Star Wars. Rise, return, attack, striking. Rise is such a shitty, like, B-Movie tack onto a sequel cliche. I just, rise of anything is rise of the, what is in there? Isn't there like a Transformers movie that has something like that too? And I don't know. Like that seems to me like this, the title seems formed by a bot like a generator,

a title generator. Don't they shoot a, don't they usually shoot at Pinewood too? Star Wars. Are they Elstree or Pinewood? Is Elstri still there? I think they're Pinewood. Oh, yeah.

I think that's why Daniel Craig popped over to do that cut out part. Probably. Maybe Christophe Wells is in Star Wars. That's wrap. That's a... Damn it. Long since wrapped. Okay.

Rise of Skywalker, too. So is that Luke? Is it someone else we don't know of? Leah? Is it who? Anakin somehow? I mean, Palpatine's in the teaser. There's every, you know, all the rumors are flying out there.

All the fan theories are going. You know, people are saying this could be a return of Anakin, you know, force ghost to Anakin. This could be the return of, this could be like the Ray as a Skywalker lineage. we don't know about. There's another one that says the other theory is like they re, the Jedi no longer carry the name Jedi. They carry the name Skywalker.

That sounds stupid to me. I'm sorry. I agree. I don't like that one. Man, no one can hear this unless we put the thing to it. Putting the teaser on here. She paused at each shot. Okay, so, she's great.

Daisy Ridley, I enjoy her a great deal. I love this new outfit. I love the hard collar on the top. I love the fact that she has fixed Luke's lightsaber. I love that she's on a desert planet that, but also my question to this galaxy is like, why are so many desert planets teeming with life in the Star Wars universe? Yeah. I love that she has the blaster that Han gave her.

Right. She still got that holstered. I love that she decided to make a matching leather holster for both the lightsaber and the blaster. I love that she's a person who's wielding a lightsaber and a blaster. Yeah. Which we rarely see. Right, because there's no Jedi order anymore. Yeah.

But Luke used to do that, too. He used to do in Return of the Jedi. He would have the, he had the, you know, when he's the, um, fire. And, uh, fighting, fighting those little bears, remember those little bears in that third movie? Yeah, I sure do. Love those guys. Love them. So I will say, uh, this, this shot, I'm excited about it.

I love that she took the Jedi texts, uh, from the temple. Yeah, thank God she did, because the whole movie was, sorry, a bit of a waste of time. plot and character-wise. Not much happen from A to B when you really think about it. I try not to think about it, but sadly I have thought about it ad nauseum. I've watched every

YouTube piece on the planet about the movie, defending it, but mostly tearing it down. I arrived at my own conclusion of the movie, which is, I enjoyed two-thirds of it. The middle of it, I was like, I don't know.

I love that throne room lightsaber battle, but that's generally. really it. I like that a lot. I liked the I liked the Luke and Yoda stuff. And I really liked, I really, really liked, just for the fact, just to see it, I liked Luke in front of those giant walkers.

Yeah. I loved seeing that. And I loved him firing up that lightsaber. Let's not even talk about that movie. Okay, we don't have to. Don't worry about it. Anyway, so Ray's doing, who knows what, you can mute it. We can talk about it. it. We don't need to hear it, except for the Palpatine laugh at the end. But, so let me ask you, what do you, this is, of course, all speculation here. As someone who we've now seen can lift so many rocks in the air at once. Yeah. Why doesn't she just lift a bunch of rocks in the path of this tiefighter? I think she's got other plans. Now, do you think Kylo Ren is in this tie fighter?

I do. Yeah, I do, too. I do, because that seems to be the, uh, the Kylo Ren tie fighter. The shot is, you know what's interesting. about trailers nowadays, Matt, is they'll often change things in trailers to keep other stuff hidden from fans. Yeah, or they're using alternate takes just to build the trailer

that might not be in the final shot. Although this is a very effects-heavy shot. That is a great run. That is a great run and a good flip. Yeah. I like it a lot. And then we go to what is this? It's like a snowy planet.

And then we're in the forest. And by the way, that looked like he was taking out a, I don't know, he looked like he was taking out a knight of Wren. Not the case, I'm told. From whom? But I hear the Knights of Wren are back. Well, they're on the poster.

These are like some kind of... Gammorian guards. Soldiers or something, yeah. But look at who's repairing Kylo Ren's mask. It's a furry-handed creature, not Kylo Ren. Right. So that tells me... An Ugnot is back.

It tells me that... Oh, yeah, yeah. The, wasn't there like, um, trying to think of the movie. Yeah. I didn't think. Is it empire? Would the ugnaughts? Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know if it's really, I would love it. I would love it. I don't look like ugnaught hands to me and believe me. And tell your friends, by the way. I know agnought hands. Do you think he, uh, this guy who's fixing it for Kylo's going to be like, he is going to love this red that I'm leaving in here?

It's going to remind him of the lava from his grandpa's planet. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah. Let's see. All right. Then you got Finn and Poe on a rocky planet that actually looks like Giannosis. But also looks like the Rocky Planet could be the desert planet. Yeah, which could also be Geonosis. And Geonosis was what in the canon? And it's where that stadium fight was in the Yeah, yeah. Okay. And the people that go, burr-a-pac-cog-cler-c. Hey, watch your mouth. Sorry, man. In this podcast, I mean, it's sort of favorably friendly, friendly. And then we've got BBA.

B.B8 and a hair dryer. BB8 and a haird dryer. I don't know. I'm skeptical about that. I'm going to like leave well enough alone. BV.8's fine. You've already pushed R2 to the background. Now you're going to push BV8 to the background for the little guy.

Come on. Slow your roll, JJ. I sound like one of those horrible YouTube people. Do what you want. I'll judge it when it comes out. I'm all in. Oh, I'm going to see it. And then you got Lando and Chewy doing stretches while they're going light speed.

I like to think that if Chubaca, let's say, for instance, and I think it might be actually happening in the shot that Chubacca's hitting some controls. Yeah. If a fucking wookie has to fully extend to hit those buttons, that is a bad cockpit design. You're right. That's a Matt Meyer effect. That's right.

You can take that to the bank. Have you flown the Millennium Falcon, Matt? I did at Galaxy's Edge. Yeah. Were you the pilot? I was. How'd you do? I don't remember.

That ride made me. Oh, you were not. You were not, your stomach wasn't synced up with the screen. No, and I tell you the truth, I didn't love Galaxy's Edge. Whoa, this is controversial slash popular. Yeah. You know, I'm hearing that it's dead over there. I keep hearing that.

Was it dead when you went? No, it was so crowded. We could only go on the Millennium Falcon Ride. You couldn't get in the lightsaber thing. Not only could we not get in the canteena, but you couldn't even get in line. And when an employee who's only allowed to speak in the vernacular of, bought two or whatever this place is. It's trying to tell you you can't get in line,

but like, bright sun's off-wolder. I regret to inform you that the first order won't allow you to get it. And you're like, wait, what? I want to get in line for this to track it. Well, oh, traveler, off-worlder. You can't. And I'm like, hey, let us get in line. I regret, but not allowed to.

I love that they say bright sons. Yeah, over and over because clearly they've been given this vocabulary to speak and they've only memorized three of the possibilities. And that's all you hear. hear from everyone is bright sons bright sons and it has this like disney cult thing of like right suns i'm about to lose my job oh god matt let me just tell you right now based on based on what you know you're you're you've been to disney your share times you know hell i worked out 13 years well let me tell you this right now man it's friday it's sunny day out it's july what would you expect the wait

time to be at peter pan right now very low guests per hour on that ride that's why the line's always long. I'd say 45 minutes. It's actually only 30 minutes right now. Only? Well, for Friday in July? That's crazy, though. Here's what I'm saying to you, though. That means you get four rides per day. All right, Big Thunder Mountain. What do you think the wait time is?

That one moves pretty quickly. I'd say 45. It's 20. Oh, my God. Let me just ask you the following question. How long do you think the wait time is for, say, a... It looks like Space Mountain is not taking people. Oh, is that Space Mountain? How long do you think the wait time is for Space Mountain, Matt?

Notorious. 12 parsecs. So you would say 12 parsecs, which you probably translate to probably about 55 minutes, right? Yeah. It's a 20-minute wait right now. So what has happened here, people are theorizing. Lots of kids. No one is going because they're afraid that it's going to be so slammed.

They won't be able to do anything. But in Galaxy's Edge, it's a hundred, minute wait for Millennium Falcon. The best part about that ride is just the line, getting in the Millennium Falcon. Have you been on it? No, I haven't been. I love the blue milk. Loved it.

I'm actually going on a location scout next week there. We're shooting an episode. We're shooting a thing there. For Goldbergs? Yeah. Oh, wow. But... Also, there's no creatures.

You go in and there's two stormtroopers walking around in an occasional race. but I wanted a wookie, I wanted some Ewks, I wanted some droids. You got an occasional ray? We got a Ray. You got a Kylo? Yes, but that was under the guise of like a show. Like they start this show and it's like an Imperial Commander and two Stormtroopers and then Kylo Ray comes out of his ship.

And there's no, like they do this whole thing with microphones and music. And then he just gets off the stage and they start walking through the park. There's no show. I want a goddamn thing. Park stunt show everywhere I turn. So what you're saying is your boyhood dream of flying the money and falcon made you nauseous. Yeah. You can't go.

You can't, don't meet your heroes. Your, your interactions with the inhabitants of the planet were not as pleasant as he would as he would be. Well, they were zero to non-existent. I mean, when the stormtroopers come around, that's pretty cool. I always feel uneasy. This is going to sound crazy. But when the stormtroopers are around, say at Disney Hollywood Studios or even at Disneyland when like Captain Fasma would be leading the first order.

It always, it feels, it nauseates me. Because it feels so fucking Nazi life. Oh, then you're going to hate this because they're walking the perimeters up above of the buildings and all the first order flags are everywhere. this more than ever feels like you are in a fascist world. And I know that's the, you know, the corollary of the movie, but it really does. Right, but give me hope. No. Give me your fucking good guy.

Here's, and I don't mean to be cynical, it's easy to criticize. And I get sick of people just criticizing. But this to me was the problem, and it may be a factor of me working there for so long. But Star Wars, on a surface, is a cynical, weathered world. But at its core, it's a very idealistic and positive. fairy tale. Disney is very positive on its surface about fairy tales, but at its core, it's kind of now a cynical empire corporation. And when those two things are melded, I think I'm one of the few people that I'm walking around that, I think just feeling jarred. Like it does not gel to me. It feels

really cynical and weird. And I don't like my, and I know Star Wars was like a merchandising empire. I get that. Yeah. I get that. But I don't think that that was, I don't think that's what it's really about. And even to a certain extent in these new films, like they hire filmmakers that care. But Disney now is a mammoth empire. And those two things combined together like this, I was just like, something was giving me the willies there. I can't explain it. And I think it really came down to the Disney employees who, you know, are walk around fearful of their bosses, because I've worked there. And they're trying to do the Star Wars vernacular. And it was so weird. That's interesting to me. So.

You know, when you say you walk around fearful of your bosses, are you always like, are you always worried that there's going to be a higher up, watching a guest interaction? You're not worried because they are, because there are more middle managers practically than employees there. Yeah. And so they're micromanaging everything you do. Now, I was in the entertainment section, so it was all unionized,

so they weren't as much doing it to us, but the regular employees there, well, they go there to, I don't mean this is a disparagement, but they go there to join the cult of Disney. Like, they love Disney. Of course. Of course. And they think. I get it.

I also, I love a Disney theme park. Yeah. But they go there thinking like, oh, it's the happiest place on earth. And so a lot of the employees are actually already like pre-indectinated into the cults.

So they come and go and like, have a Disney day. Ha, ha, ha. But then they're also like by nature really rule followers. All of the people that work at Disney are like fearful rule followers. So it has the feeling of a bit of a fascist empire where people are like, I can't make that decision. I have to like on D-Day.

Hitler was asleep and all the commanders at Omaha Beach. wouldn't do anything because they were waiting for him to wake up and all the chain had to go all the way back to Hitler. Nobody would make a decision there on the beach while the Americans were improvising and the non-commissioned officers were taking over and giving orders. It's just like nobody's empowered with decision-making at Disney. It's a scary place.

Boy, I didn't mean to go on this one. No, it's very interesting to me. I think that's part of the charm of our Star Warsing podcast. And our jazz podcast. Well, no, I mean, it's like, I think it's like, I think the franchises share. a lot of actors. Yeah.

They share a lot of fandom. I think that there are a lot of James Bond fans that are Star Wars fans. I don't know about vice versa, but... Yeah, I wonder. Let's finish out this trailer.

Saga comes to an end, they say, right? Now, now we've got some speeders on the desert planet. It looks like some kind of moisture evaporators. Now, let me ask you this. Are they pods from like pod racing times? No, they seem like like speeder bikes.

I see. Oh, no, they're like, it almost looks like they're writing brooms. Well, I do like the shot. It looks like they're on some sort of a hover skiff, like a tiny version of Jabba's. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Oh, God, you know what I love?

You know what I love? What? Here's something I'd love in this movie. What? If Luke, if they went back to Tatooam. Yeah. And Luke was like to Ray in a forced ghost or whatever. He's like, he's like, go to blah, blah.

blah, blah. It's behind the whatever. And she pulled off this fucking dusty cover and his speeder was there. Oh, yeah. How fucking cool would that be? But they sold it most honestly. Well, you don't think he went, let's just pretend. He went back in an offshoot comic and purchased it.

He loved it. No, right before he went to save Han and tattooing, he's like, there's something I got to take care of. Well, he could have done it between. Once his father was back as a young ghost. Now we've got what looks like Leia's hands maybe We're saying that's the metal That's the medal from the original Star Wars

That was awarded to everybody by Judy Who do you think? That's... I think that's Hans I think she's going through Hans stuff In my brain, that's what I have Or she could be going through Some kind of closure on that

She could go through Luke stuff too Oh I'd love it if she went through Luke stuff Found the green lightsaber And and handed that to whomever Why did we last see the green lightsaber? He throws it aside on the desk Star.

Yeah. And you never see it. You just hear it clank. Well, they could be diving for it. Well, that was what the original concept was for how the original Luke's Ice Sabre came in the first place. I thought it was the severed hand. You may be right.

From Empire. From Scott Clouds. But they go, they never said what they were. Oh, I think they were diving on the lightsaber for a Kyber crystal or something. I don't know. There's probably like a whole drawer of Kyber crystals on the Death Star. Oh, yeah. They're probably all red.

Yeah. Yeah. So then you got Ray shedding a tear. It's a great shot. Hugging Leia. Mm-hmm. And you know with Daisy Ridley, that's a real tear. She's so good. She's a great actress.

And then we see the whole gang gathered together, including the little Pixar Lampshade droid. By the way, all we wanted, Disney, was this shot. I know. But of all of our actual heroes from the first three movies. When I, I never occurred to me. it never occurred to me how much I wanted that until thinking about it visually right now. So they're on some kind of like grass.

Well, it seems like, right? Because what we turn around on is the fallen Death Star, correct? Yes. So are they on Andor itself, not the moon of Endor? Good question. Yeah, maybe. And we're assuming that's the third death star, I mean, the second Death Star. Yeah.

The third Death Star was called. Star Killer Base. Right. Stupid. I know. But so there's the big Death Star chunks sticking out of the ocean. Yeah. Interesting.

Very interesting. And then we get... I suppose the Forest Moon of Andor would have water. Yeah. No one's ever really gone by Luke. And then you hear... The Palpatine. The Pellate.

Now, do you think that's a new recorded laugh? something from the original. I think the new recorded laugh. And I think only, I think so because of Star Wars Celebration when they had Ian out to do that laugh. Right. Introduce the trailer. Yeah, that makes sense. All right.

Well, I'm, you know what I'm, here's what I'll say right now. I'm more excited. And maybe because it's earlier, I'm more excited to see episode nine than I am to see Bond 25 right now. I feel like I'm more clear on what I'm going to get from Star Wars, so it's a little safer. Yeah. I'm a little more worried about Bond. I wouldn't say I'm less excited. Yes, I'm more worried about Bond for sure.

But I kind of, I'm kind of just, I really want to put the franchise to bed for a while of Star Wars. Yeah. I kind of want them to go episode nine and I want to tuck them in and go, okay, guys, we'll see you in five to ten years. Well, I think they're going to take quite a break. Well, they're going to do all that TV shit. Go ahead. I think Bond has the potential to be way better than the Star Wars, but it also has the potential to be way worse.

And I think with Star Wars, it's probably going to be like Force Awakens level. Like, it's probably going to be pretty good, but not like stellar. To think back, Force Awakens, you've seen it a ton. Yeah. That movie for me really does nothing. More than Last Jedi? Yeah. I've seen Force Awakens literally one and a half.

half talks. Wow. I saw it in the theater. I saw it a screening Conan was that. Oh, yeah? Over at Disney. And it just, even in the theater, I was like, this is, what they just, why did they do that to Han?

What the fuck is happening? Why'd they do that to Luke? Why do they wait so long for Luke? I get to team me up for the next movie, but you can team me up with a four and a half minute scene. Yeah, true. You know? Well, there you have it.

That was great. I really enjoyed the Star Wars and, I know, that's just a teaser. Of the things that we... That was a backdoor pilot. That was a backdoor pilot. Let's nip that out and send it off to Erio, see if they'll have us. Amanda has said that she wants to do a podcast with Maria.

What do they call it? Oh, I had a Star Wars is born where it's a podcast where two women tackle the Star Wars franchise who haven't really seen her don't care much about it. I love it. Yeah, I love it. It'd be pretty great. All right, listeners. We'll be back.

with a couple of commentaries to round out this season and then you know probably all I can say about those commentaries is I'm going to enjoy both of them we'll see if I can talk them out of one or one of them all right James bonding we'll return Matt and Matt and Matt and Matt oh Matt you know I rushed over here the second you said there's more news and rumors I put up the double seven signal in the sky yeah it wasn't a cloud in the sky so it just went onto the moon you saw luckily I was looking at the moon at the time. That's right. And it was tiny by the time it got to the Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked to me like a like a dot and then I grabbed the telescope. Yeah. Zoomed in there. Still a little fuzzy. Because telescopes, let's be honest, they're not great.

Your home telescopes. And then it was eight hours later and you finally came over and it's early in the morning. Then you texted me. Yes. You were like, the signal must not have gotten to him. I should just text. And that didn't work. So I called you. And then I emailed facts. Yep, yep. Listen, there's big news. And actually, it's not even that big of news. It's cool news for my money, but it set the internet aflame. And you don't even know what it is.

It is 9.30 in the morning. You can hear it my voice. I'm still drinking coffee. My hair is going every which way, right? Look, I already, this morning I got woken up by my wife at about 6.14 a.m. She was like, you did it again. I was like, what did I do again? She's like, you put up the wrong episode of Excellent Adventure.

Oh, Matt. I don't know. I don't know what to say. I am Dory. I understand what he's going through. Listen, Matt, what you don't know about Matt and I is like,

we're basically podcast firemen. If some Bond news goes up, we have these lockers where, you know, where firemen put on their gear. Yep. We put on headphones. Yep.

We strap a mic and we slide down a pole into a podcast engine truck. Yeah. And that's how he got over here. fun because I sometimes get to steer the ladder end. Yeah. Which, by the way, hoot.

It's a hoot. And we drive through downtown San Francisco. It's weird. Six hours out of our way, but we do it because we love James Bond. Yeah. Okay. So here's the news, man. Okay.

You know that in the new Bond 25, yes. The actress Lashana Lynch is playing some sort of role, obviously. Lashana Lynch of Captain Marvell. Yeah. Now, I haven't seen that, but when I see her character name written, in articles. Is it pronounced in the movie Rambo or Rambo? Do you remember? I believe it is Rambo. Sweet. I believe it is. Okay, I like that. Anyway, the first headline

to break was from the Daily Mail, which is a, you know, a real shady tabloid saying that the torch of basically saying James Bond, after this movie, the torch will be passed to look Shauna Lynch as the new James Bond. That was the gist of it. And that set people in a furor. Because if you can remember how backward people got about Idris Elbow playing Bond, imagine then a black woman playing. How backward people got about the thing that didn't happen.

Yeah. Do I ever remember? Nor is it happening here. Because when the real news started to come out, you just find out that Bond is already retired. We know that. So they've given his double O assignment. name to someone else, and that is Lashana Lynch.

She is 007. She's not James Bond. She's just 007. Guys, we had a discussion about this on, I believe, the view to a killed commentary where we talked about once they get to 10, you still keep, you don't just stay with three digits. You have to go 0010. Yeah.

You know, so I don't know how many doubleOs are working at one time, but they can't just, they're not at 00900. No, and it's not like jorkements. Jersey, like, you don't retire the numbers. You retire the people if they're not in all honesty. I bet there's been a couple. They were like, this one, this one's gone. We're going to, we're going to etch this on the wall. Yeah. And no one's getting this double O again. Like that clown guy from Octopus. His clown suits up on the wall of M's office. But look, if you, I think it's in the MI6 by lines that if you throw your walther on the, on the bridge. Yeah.

And walk away, you don't get to retire a number. So. No, he, he, he, gave it up. I actually really like this element. Like, he's brought back into the fold to find his, you know, like his double number has been given to this younger, fresher woman, you know, I find that this is going to be interesting. Also, it doesn't seem like a major factor of the movie, you know? For me, it's just like, oh, you got my old office. Yeah. And all it's done is, is lit the internet up. But now, at great risk of sounding hypocritical, I don't know why people even give these crazy people voice. You know, like people, I see people going back and forth with them on Twitter and all this

stuff. They're just the vocal minority, the crazies. Like, the rest of the world isn't going to have a problem when this movie comes out, you know? I think that we should all right now stand firm as the James Bonding podcast and say that, this is horrible, man. Why would they do this? Can you believe they took our James Bond away? Oh, make America great again.

Make London British. What? I take England. Fantastic again. Oh, Ian Fleming. How are you, sir? Oh, I've come to say what a travesty they've done. Oh, no, you don't, in your mind, were the double O numbers assigned and just switched out for whomever might be there?

Absolutely, boy, but you're supposed to give them a triple O. Because these days, with inflation and all, you have to kill three, four, sometimes five people before you can become a specialization. So you're still under the belief that the double O means. means you've killed two people. That's not enough these days. You have to... I know a man. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, Iron Man familiar with him. He's a Google... Oh, seven. He's a Google... Oh, he's killed that many. Yes. Wow. His name is God.

Oh, wow. The devil and all that. So, Ian, have you talked to Stan Lee up there? Yes, you know, he's always making cameos in my little boozing bridge parties. I don't particularly cure... He's a bit uncouth, you know? He just swings through... says one thing and bounces.

He certainly does. Sometimes you'll show up as the waiter or the waiter-a-dee, you know. But actually, can I say it's a little too early in the morning for me to be doing this? I'd like to go. Oh, head back up. Bye. Oh, my God. He's floating.

Oh, I just woke up. Yeah. Well, you missed Ian Fleming. He popped by. Wow. He's also, he apparently also just woke up, man. That's weird how that happens. I know.

Listen, there's one other thing I want to say. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I was going to say, so if she is playing 007, again, I don't. There's really no news. The only news is it's a cool little plot wrinkle. The bigger news, I think, is people who have now listened through this whole episode heard me theorizing that Blofeld might be a Hannibal Lecter-esque figure.

And it broke in, I forget where, the playlist or something that Madeline Swan may go visit him in jail to find out information on Rami Mollock's character as a Hannibal-esque figure. Can you believe I pulled that one? I love that so much, Matt. Yeah, it's not. I love when our bullshit turns into reality here. We are making these movies happen. We are writing them.

They're listening, even though we hadn't even released this episode. Believe me, they've got a special track. Purvey, Wade, look. Purvey! We still don't understand. We still don't know if you're any good. Hold on. This opens up.

whole new, Pervy definitely wrote Christmas only comes once a year. Come on, that's what he's there for. So Wade's plot, and Pervey's just all the double on top of it. He just comes in and does one pass. There's no way that that, when he was at Oxford or wherever

Neil Purvis had gone to college, there's no way his nickname wasn't Pervey. Yeah. This episode's a little dry. Can we bring Pervey in? Well, he's out at the red light district, sir. Of course, where wouldn't he? Pete. He's bovie.

Bring him in. So, look, yet again, another development that I would not consider a spoiler because it's just casting. Yeah. So I therefore allow it. And I remain optimistically hopeful about this movie. I remain pessimistically dower about everything because we have to be even. You know, you get us heads and tails.

Down the middle. All right. Well, there it is. We'll be back next week with probably another commentary, which I think we're about to record right now. It's currently Monday morning. We're going to record the shortest of the movies. There she goes. There's she back.

Oh, my gosh. What are you looking for? Oh, I think it's in the garage. You know, where people keep laptops. The garage. That's the Mangorley Way. Yeah. All right, James Bonding. We'll return.

And I know we already said that a minute ago, but... We're going to do it again. See, we didn't lie. We returned. And now we will once again return. Disponny podcast.