James Bonding - Bonus: Dr. No Commentary

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

Matt and Matt sit down with Dr. No, the 007 film that started it all, for a feature length commentary. Watch along with the movie or listen without watching — either way, nobody does it better. Host...ed on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Matt and Matt and James Bonding Podcasts. Hey everybody. Welcome to James Bonding Commentary Edition. I'm Matt. And I'm Matt, and we're talking about 1962's Dr. No, the first MGM-Eon production of the James Bond film franchise. Oh, we thought what better place to start, the place that started it all. That's right. Post made for TV, CBS movie.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yeah. So here's what's going to happen, guys. We are going to do a full-length audio commentary. Again, I'd like to reiterate. We are lovers, not experts. And it's going to be very entertaining. You can cue this up at home or just listen in the car. But the way we're going to get this synced up is with the help of a very special lion.
Starting point is 00:00:56 That's right. Leo the Lion, the MGM mascot, is going to appear. on your screen. Now, allow that line to do what he does and do his first roar. But hold on, Matt. What should they do after that first roar? Hit pause. And why? Because you need to be in sync with
Starting point is 00:01:13 us. That's right. And then we're going to tell you exactly when to hit play and we're both going to be watching the same exact thing at the same exact time. So feel free right now to pause this and get that queued up and then come back to us. And we are going to tell you to hit
Starting point is 00:01:29 play. So again, you're going to watch Leo the lion do what I would call a forced, probably strained. It's almost kind of a yawn. Yeah, it seems. It's an audible yawn. It took a little longer than we thought it should. And once he's done that first one, you've paused it. And you're back now at this point. We're all ready to go. So this is fair warning. We're going to unpause when we say he'll do that second lion and you should hear it roar along with us. He's going to do the second lion. He's a lover, not an expert. That's right. So we're going to hit play together. He's already. guys, he has, we're going to hit, I'm going to do a three, two, one play, right? And then when I say play is when you'll play, press play. I'll do it with you. I'll roar. I'll roar with you. So are you going to be the first roar? No, that's already happened. Okay. All right, guys. You've seen the first roar. You've paused it and you're waiting to hit play. Here we go. Three, two, one, play. Oh, man. I mean, that was very well seen. synced.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Already we're into this and I'm excited because just this like synthesizer squelching noise is not something you get on any other Bond movie. I think that you saying a synthesizer squelch noise is probably doing it not the justice of electronic beeps and boops. Possibly. But also there's like a xylophone rub and then you're into this Monty Norman Bond theme. That's not Sean Connery, everybody. No.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I want you all to know that. That is one fact that we know. Yeah. look a very simple and clean title design this is before we got into the craziness of James Bond titles it almost feels like you're in classic Vegas and this is up on a big like multi-light jumbo-tron or something let me tell you Matt I recently went to the neon museum in Las Vegas Nevada and they have a very special show it's an art installation with a lot of their old neon signs that is a separate admission worth it. You'll feel like you're in old Vegas. You'll feel like
Starting point is 00:03:33 you're walking down the strip towards, I don't know, a whillard-White casino. I was, I just drove through Vegas the other day and I was looking for that. Which one is it? Oh, that's the Las Vegas Hilton, which then became the Westgate, which is now called the Las Vegas Hotel. It's at the very, very, presumptuous. Outside of the strip. Director of Photography, Ted Moore, I don't know if you're familiar with him, but I'm not. Ken Adam, though, production designer, are you kidding? Oh, look, and that's, I love in the past, in the old movies, how abrupt fades. You could get away with the most abrupt fades.
Starting point is 00:04:09 That bond theme into this, this kind of calypso thing is, I mean, that's crazy. That was, you know, even easy into that. You also forget that Maurice Binder is sitting in there, like, going, let's put in silhouettes of women already for the first movie forward. I think he came out of the womb, that way. way. He was ready to go. He's just waiting for technology to catch up. That's what he said when he came out. You what he said? Silhouettes. Sillio wets. Silly old wets. Hello, silly old wets. Mr. Fleming, how are you? I'm fine, don't you know? I thought I'd stop in to do a little
Starting point is 00:04:45 talking on my film here on the silly old wets. Yeah, there's your name right there based on the novel by Iron Flaming. Yeah. How do you feel about the three people who turned your novel into a big screen feature? You know, at first I was a little bit dubious, but ever since the Czech started rolling in, and I could keep myself in Dutch with all kinds of pints of vodka and gin and Turkish cigarettes, I've been much happier. How many Turkish cigarettes would you say you're smoking a day now? Let's see, I tend to think of them by wheelbarrow load, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:24 they come in a lot and then they offload them in a type of three-wheeled wheelbarrow. You have a boy who does that? I do. Look at this bridge club. I want to go play bridge at this bridge club so badly. You know what?
Starting point is 00:05:41 I've never seen a more refreshing glass of water with a lime. Oh, you think that's water? It's pure vodka. We know it is. It has to be. There's no chance it's not. This is my favorite era.
Starting point is 00:05:52 This is my favorite look of film. It's somehow super colorful and like desaturated at the same time. You know, the color in James Bond movies is always something that I notice. Like when they, especially later on when they desaturate things like in Specter era. But these, the pop of these makes the blood not look real most times. It really does. It's like bright red paint.
Starting point is 00:06:18 But I think they're popping the color in these because they're still not long out of the black and white era. This is 62. I just watched the apartment with Shirley McCleman and Jack Lemon, and that's in full black and white. So they're just celebrating the, oh, you saw the light camera and the car there. Did you see that? I did indeed. Strangways is also such a great name. Now let me ask.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. Is that a possessive? Like that's Strangway's place? No, because it didn't have an apostrophe. And I believe his name is Strangways, right? It's not Professor Strangway. Is it not? Or not Professor.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Professor Dent is what I'm thinking of. Isn't it stringway? It's string ways, I think. Oh, we'll find out. We're all learning a lot together here. Yeah. Look, already we are understanding that we're in a spy picture because what we thought were books is actually a radio. And I'll tell you what, you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:08 60s analog communication hardware just turns me on. I don't know what it is. I feel the same way about 60s Brzears. Really? Those pointy things? I love them. Really? That's a Howard Hughes invention.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Is it? Yeah, I'm a lover, not an expert, but I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere. Leave it to that. Somebody looked that up. Something for a woman. I, okay, so are these, let me ask you the following question. Are these the three blind mice, Matt? They certainly are.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Okay. Yeah. Doctor, no, oh, what is the mystery you don't? By the way, if we were making this movie 10 years later, that's your cold open. you know what I mean? And then we go into the titles. Oh, yeah. Once the Dr. Noh falls on the desk there.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah. Look at this. Oh, my God. This is a porn room to me. All these 60s dials and knobs. Me too. 60s bra right there. The glass partitions.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Look at this. Do you think that anybody, I mean, I'm going to go ahead and take a guess conservatively. This is 1962 that 40% of these people were in World War II. I'm being probably all the men, right? Well, I mean, they're pretty young, yeah. But like the guy talking, I think, could have probably maybe been signed up at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I wonder if they were like, had, I wonder if they had any idea what they were about to be a part of. I, yeah, I don't see how they could have, you know. But the budget for the movie supposedly was what? It cost a million dollars, right? Which sounds like a lot of money for back then. Yeah. But look, all that Ken Adam did with a million. dollars, even at that time.
Starting point is 00:08:56 That sign was $100,000. The Lyserk sign. Just check to see if you guys are synced up with us right now. We are following a waiter, matri d, I'll say, out into the casino floor. We're about to get to the best character introductory. Introduction. Introduction. It's the morning.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's Sylvia Trench, everybody. No. When she is introduced on the screen. But you did point out that she really feels. needs bond how to how to say your name right didn't you point yeah yeah she invents the mechanism yeah for which he then continues to say his name boy and doesn't that sum up bond in a nutshell like the woman comes up with it and then and then he takes the man makes it famous it becomes his I want to say this history in this time for the record yeah I have now played bocrat in a casino whoa how to go
Starting point is 00:09:51 I won. Congratulations. Did you say Bronco or Sweevie? Do you Fee? Bunk. Sweeney. Sweeney. Come here, Swee, Swee.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I love it. He wins. I just want one of those paddles. Now, we'll stop talking so you can hear it at home. Pan to the right and an orchestra has started playing that music. So look how Tanny is. The house band. He's Scottish for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I wonder what his actual, like, ethnic heritage is. I want to talk about the fact that everyone says that he wears a wig from the get-go. Are we telling... Are you telling me that this is a hairpiece? You know where I come down in this. I disagree. I think he's got a... I disagree also.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I think he's got a rug in the back until Goldfinger. Then it becomes an entire... And it becomes a full piece. You can see his hairline here. Are you saying... Are you telling me that later on, uh, when our Stitcher Premium or... Real quick, look what that guy's wearing behind him. The Texican...
Starting point is 00:11:05 This guy, wow. Texican. Sorry, what were you going to say? I was saying, are you telling me that once we get to Goldfinger, I'm going to notice a clear delineation that his hairline is no longer his hairline. Yes. It's more receded here than it is in Goldfinger, but it looks more natural here. I love this hair here.
Starting point is 00:11:22 This is, that's just, I like a little bit of, you know, like a little recession on a hairline gives a little distinguished look. A little peak, yeah. Yeah, I agree. I mean, look, I don't want to brag, but my co-host has great hair. No, I don't know. I've got this hair right here. You do, but it's like it's nice and straight and you got it parted wonderfully.
Starting point is 00:11:43 You're kind. I think we've talked about this before. This isn't going to become a commentary all about hair, but I do have perfect wigdar. It's off the charts. Okay, we have just transitioned to the MI6 office and the door has opened. Can you see how it just like stops in its tracks? because it's also like got varnish on it that's kind of shining wrong in the light and I just love that you can see the seams this is one of the least glossy bond films yeah that isn't on purpose you know yeah I mean this is one of the few times that this looks like a set yeah and LeSerk looked like a set too but money penny ladies and gentlemen Lorraine Baines McFly Maxwell uh Lois Lois Maxwell Lois Maxwell Well, why did I call it Lorraine Baines McFly?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Max mom. Because Lorraine was his mom, right? I think so, I don't know. Marty's mom. We're watching this with the captions on, which I think we're going to find some interesting stuff in there. She just said Strangways. We're going to find some interesting stuff spelled. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I mean, let's just say, for the first time we see the man, the character, he's in a tuxedo. Yeah, and there's the leather doors. I swear, I just want to go in between the... those two doors and hang out in that little vestibule. Just you want to be, um, you just want to be encased in leather? No, because there's like two feet between those two doors. Yeah, I know, but it's essentially. Yeah, do you imagine what it smells like in that two feet of heaven?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Oh, just hide, you know? Just raw hide. Look at also the walls here. Like, they're clearly just painted wood. It is interesting when you look at a desk from the 60s. Just the idea of not having a computer on it. I know. Like, they had everything had to be paper.
Starting point is 00:13:32 paper trails everywhere. That's why spying was so much more fun back then. That's true. That's why I've been reading a lot of John LaCarray and watching a lot more since we did this podcast. Just this pace at which they work and that is amazing. It's deliberate. Yeah. Let's talk about the lapels on M's suit.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They're far bigger than I ever remember. Let's see. Oh, yeah. They are pretty big for that time. They're massive. Those are some Ricky Riccardo's. there. Oh, sir, he's, he's going to go to the Copa later.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah. Also, he's got a little tie tack. I wonder what that is. It's not a tie bar. It's a little... Well, it's just to keep his tie tack down. Look at him with that pipe in his mouth. I've never...
Starting point is 00:14:21 Who's the most British person in this movie? Did we... I'm sure we figured that up before. I'm sure we did at one point. It's not dent. But right now, right now, so far as M. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Look at that green, two-tone green phone. He's got two phones. No, he's got four phones. Boom, boom, boom. Oh, that's not a phone. But there's three at least. What do you think each phone does? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Oh, here comes Major Boothroid. Do you think the green phone is his personal phone to his home? I also love that this gun is delivered in a like a kind of wooden cigar case where today it would be some steel thing with a palm print identification. That's class. Or an Amazon box. And his shammie leather holster. You know that's a real cotton shirt too because it's like see-through and blousey. That thing probably wrinkles just looking at it.
Starting point is 00:15:18 That's the type of tuxedo shirt I wore for my wedding. Oh, really? Yeah. Did you go with a ruffle front? No. No. I had, I just had a picture of Amanda's face on my. Oh, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. Never came up. across. MI7, it's called right there. Oh. M. He wasn't talking about something else? He said since he's been head of MI7.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Whoa, that's weird. He gets demoted. This is another thing that we've just noticed thanks to close captioning, Matt. That's weird. Can't go back. We're doing a commentary. No, this is weird. I just think that the style in this movie is so timeless and of the time.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. It's a timeless period. Like when you watch movies from the 50s even, it's less timeless to me. And the 70s. Yes, definitely the 70s. 60s has become my favorite era. And I'm, you know, because when I was growing up in high school, 60s always meant like hippies and Vietnam and everything.
Starting point is 00:16:26 No, I'm talking like this kind of 60s. Yeah. Oh, I never noticed. He has the streak of silk down the, down the seam of his, pandling. He's got cufflinks. I wonder what those cufflings are like. They probably say J.B. Yeah. I mean, I feel like everything he has is personalized. Yeah. Like, I think he's got monogrammed everything. Do you think he always listens to the repartee? He must, which adds a new element of sort of voyeurism on Em's Park. Chow. If you're still watching it home, make sure you're still synced up.
Starting point is 00:17:05 We are now on the apartment. Door is open. Now, here's what I love about the apartment. here. This is how you know it's a Ken Adams set. Look how the walls are not square. They're angling out towards us. It's not, it's like on our eyes. And the room grain of the flooring is coming at the walls in a kind of diagonal fashion. I just love that design. Look at him kicking off those size 12s. You would never see a house like this. No, absolutely not. It would all be a straight line. but by the way Matt I've never noticed that the wall was angled until just now
Starting point is 00:17:42 so that's where we're here thank you very much surprising by the way I think that James Bond has a television in his bedroom yeah and also we only see his bedroom I want to know what the rest of his
Starting point is 00:17:54 like what his parlors like and all that I love that he's taken illustrations of cars out of books and hung those on his wall I like that she's wearing his night shirt. How did she get in?
Starting point is 00:18:10 He gave her a card, right? Yeah. Do you don't think she could... Do you don't think she could go to whoever his doorman is? Or his housekeeper may. She's never in the movies, but in the book. He has a Scottish housekeeper named May.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And she could open the door and go, oh yeah, that makes sense. He'd want you here. Yeah. Yeah. It saves me the trouble of having to go out and find one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Look at those irons. That's a... That's a... That's a... fancy set of clubs for that time to have an actual steel shaft iron. Oh, really? Yeah. Without a wood shaft, you know, those wood shafts.
Starting point is 00:18:48 We have now arrived everybody in Jamaica, and we're about to see the greatest sunglasses in the history of movies. Jack Lord. It's also the shoulder pads mixed with the sunglasses and pompadour. Lady glasses. Look at that. Oh, my God. Whose hair would you write?
Starting point is 00:19:04 rather have. If you had to stick with that hairstyle for one week, would you rather have have Jack Lord's hairstyle? I have to have the style, not the hair? Like, I can't do what I'm literally like, we're going to do a full-on hair transplant. No one will be able to know it's a wig. Okay. But I have to wear it in that style? Yes. Your choice is... And I think I'd take Connerys. Oh, no. He's not of the choices. Oh, I thought... Oh. You didn't let me finish the sentence. I apologize. Your choices are Jack Lord. in this movie or Louis Maxwell
Starting point is 00:19:40 just kidding they're the same I'll take Lois Maxwell I'd walk around with that for a week just because like when are you ever going to get that chance again although I don't know if it's kind of a big swing
Starting point is 00:19:53 to have the Felix lighter hair for a week but it might just be fun oh it would be fun for sure in government house do you think what is he calling Is he calling a general government house? Is he calling the embassy?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, it's just like the British consulate or something, right? I mean, that's just like kind of presumptuous of them to just call it government house. Yeah. But I think that's the actual term because I was reading an honorable schoolboy and it's about, they talk about that and that. Look at that. His cuffs are the folded back. French cuff?
Starting point is 00:20:39 French cuff, yeah. Without, without a cuff link. Look at those glasses. Those are ladies' glasses. Have we established this? Every time we cover this movie. No, but I'm just like, have we established whether or not they were actually pulled off of a lady's rack by the costumeer? I don't know, but I want to know the story of that.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Was it him or the designer that brought? Who's responsible for these? I mean, I know of no other man from that era in real. life that wore those. No. It's like he's won up in Kennedy because he kind of looks like Kennedy. But to have the confidence of Jack Ward in 1962. Well, he's like marrying
Starting point is 00:21:18 Jackie O's sunglasses with Kennedy's hair and panache. He just loved America's Camelot. It may be though that they're like, we've got to have an American in there, so let's go at the height. It is the height of the Kennedy administration right now. That's true. Soon to be the
Starting point is 00:21:34 depths of it. He doesn't Does he drive in this movie? He does. He drives to Miss Farrow's. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. What do we got here? We got a, we got a Chevrolet Corvair.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Look, guys, the car, I'm going to read you some goofs here. What is this? Where did you get this? This is all part of how I watch these movies, Matt. Is that a plug-in or something? He's got like fax that can pop up. It is via Amazon. If you own a movie on Amazon, you'll
Starting point is 00:22:09 get X-ray. The car that Felix lighter hops in at the Kingston Airport is a 61 Chevy Impala, pillared sedan. But the car that is used in the chase scene on the highway is a 57 Chevy Bell Air convertible. Why would they do that? Sorry, pillarless sedan. Pillard versus pillarless. Boy, oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Wow. You guys want some goofs? Yeah, give me a goof. The speedometer of the 57's Chevy Shep. in the chase scene is actually that of a 57 forward. Also, the close-up shows a black steering wheel in the dashboard, whereas the Chevy is obviously red. How do you get away with that? Which you're seeing right now. We would have never noticed, but look at that clear as day. This is, of course, Reggie Carter playing Jones. I know that because of the information provided
Starting point is 00:23:01 to me by the internet movie database. This is the first feature filmed on location in Jamaica? Go back to that. Sure will, pal. Whoops. That's too much, too much information right there. Wow. Look at that flip, Matt. That is just as Sean Connery, a James Bond move as you can get. This music might as also, well, be just being like a strip cabaret. Now, this is, I gotta be honest, the first time I've seen anyone take cyanide on film.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Really? Was in this movie. Yeah, me too. But not in real life. See it every day. It's hard. get some hard living out there and Whittier. Where are you from?
Starting point is 00:23:47 I'm from Whittier. Yeah, there you go. I don't live there now, but I'm from there. Cyanide capital of the world. To hell with you. I know. To take cyanide and say to hell with you. I guess if you're going to die. You might as well go out swinging.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Do you think he smelled that one and then just took another one next to it and smoked it because he was like, well, this one doesn't have cyanide? This is a first one-liner, right? Yes, this absolutely is. Kind of. Make sure he doesn't get away. Uh-huh. So if it was a later James Bond movie, what would he say?
Starting point is 00:24:26 He would say, I had to take over. The driver was dead tired. Yeah, doesn't he do that in one? I think that's already used somewhere else. Look at the space in this room. I know. And look at the shorts on that man. Well, it's like most of, you know, people are.
Starting point is 00:24:45 of the Bahamanian islands. Yeah. It's hot because Connor is wafting his hat. Well, that's how you know. Yeah. Look at this lighting. Look at this streak going across the face. You know what you notice a lot, too,
Starting point is 00:24:59 an older 60s Star Trek is this weird lighting where they will just really hit the eyes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's cool lighting. William Foster Davis plays shorts Superintendent. Oh. And Louis Blazer, Blaser? Louis Blasier. Plays Pladel Smith.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Wow. A lot of being driven around in this one. Yeah. A lot of gravel. I like this suit a lot. I like that tie. I like the knit tie. Now, he's buttoning both buttons, which you normally don't button that lower button.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I wonder. You know, it's one of these fashion faux pas you hear about James Bond making. He looks great in this movie. Yeah, he really does. Look here. These aren't books at all. Nice, James Bond. So, we have to be careful about Matt when you're doing a commentary track.
Starting point is 00:26:04 It's just watching. Yeah, it just happened. Well, I mean, also when you're doing films that you love. I know. Like, I just wanted to order some food right now. Loving it, too. I am hungry. I am a little bit, too.
Starting point is 00:26:15 We might have to order some food. I want that prop. That was a six-cent stamp from Jamaica. This is, um, it is Stringways. Was that a weird jump cut, or they just lose four frames of the film and they've never been restored?
Starting point is 00:26:37 I don't know. I didn't catch it. You see that in the Marx Brothers film sometimes. Yeah, because they lost the film. Yeah. But how do they lose just those little slices? They get, they deteriorate past the point. Guys, this.
Starting point is 00:26:51 This is a vodka martini being shaken. Let me shout out, to a friend named Michael Simseys, who on occasion has brought me as a gift, the ingredients to make the perfect Vesper Martini, and they are, even though they don't match up with the original ingredients, apparently taste-wise, they are closer to what the original ingredients were back in the day. The license to drink boys gave us, quite frankly, the greatest Vesper Martini I've ever had in my life. This one's good. You use Bar Hill gin, vodka, and Americano.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Is it, what is it, Ameritino? I forget what it is. It's a type of vermouth instead of lilae, and it's closer to that quino lilae. James Bond doing some real James Bondiness. Yeah, look at those chairs. Give me those chairs. You know what my dad would do at hotels?
Starting point is 00:27:41 What? Put his hair on a closet. Put his hair on a safe. Really? Just like James Bond right here. Do you think he learned it here? I think he learned it here. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I also thought it was funny because he never used the safe. Yeah. Well, you never put anything in it? No, he just wanted to know if people would go in it. Wow. Now, this is my favorite kind of tradecraft where he's just using literally what God gave him to do spy stuff with.
Starting point is 00:28:08 He's using talcum powder. God didn't get him the talking powder, but technically it's a mineral, he did. And his hair on this closet door. Look at this furniture, by the way. This is like my wife's dream furniture. This 60s modern. and straight lines.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Look at this guy's face. I love it. He looks like Adrian Brody. Interesting. Kind of. I don't see it. You don't? No.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I don't either. This is Anthony Dawson, of course. And he plays Blowfelt, I believe, from Russia with love. Whoa. Do you know that? You're blowing my mind right now. Yeah. Can't wait to get to that in the next commentary track.
Starting point is 00:28:55 That's right. Look, one of Bond's traps in his room is his suitcase. Oh, there was some trivia right there, and I didn't read it in time. This is Morgan's Harbor Hotel, Morgan's Harbor, Kingston, Jamaica. Bet you didn't know that, Matt. So guess what? I'm going to Amanda's one of her best friends getting married in Thailand, and she can't miss the wedding. You have to go.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's a long way to go for a wedding. Sure. It is a very long way to go. But we're going to go to the islands. We're going to go to... You're going to do a stop-off? At... Nick-knock! Tabasco! I cannot wait for you to yell about it.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I, of course, think of... Tomorrow never dies. More. They go there and... They sure do. Jeez, I've wiped that movie from my memory. Quarrel, who some may think is James Bond's greatest ally. I mean, certainly the whole family is.
Starting point is 00:29:56 You're going to have to need, you're going to write Ally down there, Matt, on our list. Well, I've got Felix, so. Okay. Well, that's who's the best Felix lighter. All right. How about mentor as well? Oh, boy, this is going to be really something. Maybe you just choose one.
Starting point is 00:30:10 We're formulating an idea for a show coming up that I think has me really excited. You think has it. You're not sure if you're excited yet. Oh. Yeah. Never mind. I'll talk about it off there, but. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I love it. I love it. Look at that cruise ship. 60s cruise ship back there. Jamaica, I have to say, really pops in this movie. Yeah. Again, I don't know if that's quarrels red and white pants against the blue ocean, but this is a very red and blue movie. I love it. You know, I was going to say, I would like to hear a little underneath the mango tree right now. And quite frankly, the movie has kicked in with it. Red striped beer. There's Pusfeller. Pusfeller. Look, Pusfeller's shirts all wet, and it doesn't look like a sweat pattern. I think he was, I think he was busy.
Starting point is 00:31:02 That is Lester Pendergast. Lester Prendergast. Now, that's a very English name. And you're hearing Monty Normans underneath the mango tree. And John Kittsmiller is coral. If you gave me $75, and I knew nothing about this, and you told me to pick who John Kitzmiller was, in this photograph.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Yeah. Time after time I picked the bartender. You mean prendergast? Pustfeller. A lot of Red Stripe. Red Stripe getting prominent display back there. Do you think they got anything from Red Stripe?
Starting point is 00:31:39 No, probably, I wonder if it was even imported to the States at this point. It was probably just this Jamaican beer and they didn't have to worry about it. When was the last time you had a nice cold beer? about four or five days ago oh man you're living your best life mac i was in utah you know the home of beer that is true i think of utah i think uh wet counties the driest county in every way
Starting point is 00:32:06 in every way topographically alcoholically um sensually James Bond using what's around him And right now it's a bunch of red stripe boxes Yeah, empty red striped boxes Do they think they're going to get shot right now? I think that Coral knows who James Bond is Right?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah Because he's been following him With Jack Lord's lady glasses Jack Lord stepping into frame there And those sunglasses is so funny. You know that Mandela effect how we always think
Starting point is 00:32:46 Jaws' girlfriend has braces? Yes. I always think his glasses have little diamonds like bed-dazzle jewels on him. But they don't, right? No, they do not. They do not, but they may as well.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I've got to be completely honest. It's the cat-sightness of them all. Look at that. Imagine a man holding a gun to you with those glasses like I would just slap it out of his man. I'd be like, you can't be serious. And right there he only does the one button.
Starting point is 00:33:14 So maybe somebody talked to him. Yeah. James Bond. Why now take off your glasses? I spotted you at the airport. You must be James Bond. So instead of introducing myself to you, I thought it would be fun to point this gun at you. Well, he wasn't sure.
Starting point is 00:33:32 But maybe when he takes up the glasses and Bond goes, oh, Felix. I love, by the way, how Quarrel becomes the friendliest human being in motion picture history. Yeah. Immediately after this. Look at the jump-up band, by the way. Oh, they've got the same kind of ideas. Costume-wise, as the guy behind him at the club. Sure.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Go to the X-ray because they have a name, like Byron Baker. Look at Fender Peebase. That is a 1962. Byron Lee, singer at Puss Fellows. Audiovisual cigarette. Chinese lounge singer's voice is heard while the mouth is not moving. Thanks. I want to open a bar called Puss Fellers.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Oh, my God. I was listening to a great podcast today. about the invention of the tiki bar. Oh. Pusfeller's jacket was either cut so low or his pants were so high that he had the first button buttoned, and you could still see the top of his pants in the opening of the jacket above.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Well, that's one of Pusfeller's signatures. I like. It's a Pusfeller signature. If he had a bell buckle, that would be like really cool. So this suit, James Bond, now been in this suit for... He changed his shirt, though. 14 scenes. So it's the same tie then?
Starting point is 00:34:50 Is that what I'm looking at? Looks like it. Oh. That's reacting to the movie like he's never seen it. It's my mother watching. Oh, she's not gonna... She's not gonna like that she took a picture, Matthew. Oh, he's hurting her arm.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Oh, what is he doing to her? Why are those people all freaking out back there? By the way, what a fantastic name. Marguerite Le Wars. We're watching the movie again. Yeah, sometimes you're just going to have to deal with it. It's like we're hanging out. We just get lost.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I love how mad she is at them. Well, wouldn't you be kind of annoyed by them? But she knows she's doing something shady. Well, she's just been asked by a faceless man named doctor no to take photos. Right. Look at his pants. See his pants creeping up?
Starting point is 00:35:56 They're not creeping up. They're all the way up. That's amazing. What? He said ring the cleaner and she said the caption said ask the gleaner. No way, really? Yeah. I think that Quarrel really takes this light bulb to the face very well.
Starting point is 00:36:22 He really does and then he wipes a bunch of red paint on his face. He just said that like Chico Marx. Oh, we don't get another out of this, you know. That's Sapphire. I think that, I wonder what Groucho thought of these movies. Right. Do you think he saw him? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 He was around to what, 74? 77 or something? He lived for a while. Let me look that up. Chico, too. Chico didn't live that long. Chico, no, Chico died first. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Then Harpo. And then the other two lived. for a while. Zepa was a lot younger. Hi, welcome to Mark's brothering. We just talked to Mark McComville's brother. We missed what the name of our show was. We were like, okay, I think I know what that is. We just had to do the podcast based on the title.
Starting point is 00:37:27 What if we exchanged podcasts with someone, right? And they didn't know anything about us, and we didn't know anything about their podcast. and we just did the podcast we thought it was based on the title. That'd be pretty fun. We could do a podcast trade. We'll we find two people like, you and I do the big ones for an episode,
Starting point is 00:37:48 and they do James Bonding, but we're not on each other's. That would be interesting. I would do that. I would do that in a heartbeat. So are you telling me that this is yet another? So are these also the three blocks? Yeah, they're the killers. They're the three blind mice killers, which in itself is a pretty cool concept. But like, why did they change outfits to take the file? Because the one was a stealth move where they're like burglarizing. The other was like a broad day thing where they had to be into their cover of these blind mice. That's pretty good. All right. I mean, look, I'm not going to argue with you. Professor Dent, do you think that that typewriter is still in the world today?
Starting point is 00:38:38 That thing isn't going anywhere. That is like industrial grade steel. So do you think it's in someone's home and they don't know they have the typewriter from Dr. No? It could be in a landfill, but it's just still intact. I love dense. Casual dent? Oh, look at that. I mean, that is just a blousey fucking shirt right there.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah. Pardon the language. And like, you know he's just pure Egyptian cotton and linen. Everything's all wrinkly and hot here. Do you think he still gets any love out of geology? No, because he's sold his soul and he's bummed about it. Do you think he is? He's made a deal with the devil.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah. I think he's not happy that he has to do all this. Because doesn't he say as much? Like, isn't he kind of being blackmailed or something? I forget. Well, he does go to the lengths of willing to kill for. Yeah. Specter.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But he's making him do it. Do you? Because I do like to think that right there when he's walking him at that tray, it's his own personal experiment on geology stuff and it's not something he has to do for Dr. Noe? Could be. Because he seems to be like, he seems to like be clutching it like he's really happy with what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Right. Look it, boy. Do you think that car exists anymore? I don't know. Boy, he really pulled in fast into his stuff. I guess always in a hurry. Well, look, he's got to get to the island. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Look at that. Look at that get up. He changed his shirt. He changed his shirt. You don't. let me tell you, you don't go to Crabtree without dressing up. Yeah, there's a dress code to go to Crabtree. And if you don't dress right, they'll give you a coat and it ain't going to fit.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yeah, and you cannot get crab key reservations on open table. Yeah. We went to, when we were in England, we went to Dukes to get a martini and I forget, I think Jeremy that had to give him a coat because he didn't have a coat. Oh, I think we talked about that on the, at the cocktail party. Yeah. So funny.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And of course, Jeremy didn't have a coat. No. God, that was so fun in London. Yeah. Have we done a podcast since then? No, but that will be,
Starting point is 00:41:02 if it hasn't already, on Stitcher Premium during this season. That was fun. That was another one that we have. That was a very fun show. Thank you, Londoners, for coming out to visit us. You'll like to listen to that.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's a goody. That was a lot of, Ian Fleming popped by. He did. Had a British off with three actual British people. Their names were super British. It was so funny. Didn't I have to read someone's ID to make sure they weren't lying to us?
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. I believe Paddington was in his name or something. It was very... His middle name was like Queen Elizabeth. Oh, it was very fun. I hope we someday get to go back. Yeah, I think we might. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Here, of course, is the famous design, Kenne. Adam room that they needed after the budget was spent. So they had to do it as cheaply as possible. And that's what he came up with. Look at that. What do you think made that cheap? Putting nothing in it? Yeah. Well, it's just, really just three walls. Yeah, but as a matter of construction, that seems difficult. I don't know, it's just wood. And then I'm sure that's like a faux painted marble. You know what's funny about this part? What? You're a lover and an expert. Yeah, that's true. because you're a,
Starting point is 00:42:16 you're, look at this tiny chair he makes him sitting in the corner. This is like a shame room or like a dunce room. Well, I gotta be honest,
Starting point is 00:42:24 the chair was gonna be bigger, but the budget got cut. Yeah, that's true. They're out of money. It's funny that this room is so stylized and then they just put like a wooden chair in there.
Starting point is 00:42:34 But I think that Ken Adams was very deliberate in everything you're seeing in here. Yeah. I wonder how much of a, say, um, Terrence
Starting point is 00:42:45 The director? Yeah Why am I blinking on his name too? Why am I blanking on his name? Terrence? Am I correct with Terrence? Isn't it? Young?
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah. Why does that not feel right? I know. Oh man. We've been away from this for a while. Too long. Far too long. By the way, this is what Dr. No sets out.
Starting point is 00:43:12 He gets word that Strangways is coming. Bond is on to him. Yeah. Do you think he turns to someone and says, you know what? Get me, get me the deadly spider that I have somewhere. I can't find him, but just get him and put him on... I want you to put him on the only table in this room, okay? And I want it far away from the chair.
Starting point is 00:43:29 When he comes in. What do you think the other side of this room looks like? Is there like a two-way mirror that Dr. Knows sitting behind? Oh, maybe. I think that's as likely a thing as any... Oh, man, Matt, why aren't we in that lounge right now in suits? Oh, what a dream. You know what we still have?
Starting point is 00:43:50 having done and we've talked about doing you and i oh she checked him out checks his she just had a 27 year marriage and 14 kids with him in that look yeah yeah that was the female gaze we need to uh we need to get our asses to golden eye who sent me was it i think phil said that they're doing construction there so you can get like half off right now or something. But that's still, if I recall that still really expensive. But if we go with like four couples, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 It becomes much more manageable for a few days. Oh, I suppose I could do that. Actually, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do it on your laptop. Do it on my well this is all one computer, Matt. Oh, I see. I'm going to grab the
Starting point is 00:44:46 international pads. right now I want you to talk to the good people about what you're seeing. Well, James Bond is mixing a martini, I believe, because I wasn't paying attention, but he's got two clear alcohols. It's got to be his... It's not served up, though. It's just on the rocks. Maybe it's just straight up vodka or gin.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Hard to say, I am all alone right now, and I'd like to take this time to really welcome myself to me. It's good to be here, me. Thank God you're back. Matt. It's now turned to night. You were gone so long it turned to night. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah. That must have been over 23 seconds. I love that he... Why doesn't he have it under his pillow yet? Do you think that we just haven't established that his cannon? The gun? Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Well, maybe it's not comfortable. It's also probably pretty dangerous. So in your mind, this James Bond has had a relationship with Paris Carver, huh? Because that's in my mind. Where did you get that? You always bringing that out. She always says, she says to him, Oh yeah. Tell me, James, do you still
Starting point is 00:45:51 sleep with a gun under your pillow? Oh, God. Tell me James. Do you still like women who delivered platitude lines? I mean, are you, are you in an arachnid, arachnophobic, Matt? Not particularly. Yeah, I'm never bothered
Starting point is 00:46:14 by spiders, which is why I don't find any suspense in these parts of movies. Yeah, I guess also knowing that tarantulas aren't very dangerous. are they? Well, I don't know if you know this, but Dr. Noe clearly said that they were.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah. All right. Here it is. The house rental at the Fleming Villa. There he is. Wow. Look at that. It's in Orca Bessa Bay, St. Mary, Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Orca Besa. Andanita mango, tree me and the Andy. Is that a right-handed guitar? guy? That is a right-handed guitar. Oh, God, finally. I mean, you come over here and you just start drooling all over these things and you can't touch any because you can't play him. Now, you know how I feel all the time. I know. That was a right-handed, but that is the Jimmy Hendrix Custom Shop Gibson Flying V that is now strung for me. Wow. Miss Tara, I called her Miss Farrow
Starting point is 00:47:26 earlier. Look at her. Zena Marshall. I know. Yeah, she's not even remotely Asian. but slightly more Asian than Plano Smith. Yeah, I guess. Now he's got two phones. And a radio. Diplomatic pouch. So his big gadget in this movie is... A Geiger counter.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I don't know how to book this thing. Please note, between May 6th and December 19th, Golden Isle will be undergoing construction in certain areas. Oh, boy. It's a pretty good cover. Yeah. Matt, we could get a three-bedroom ocean front place. Do you know what it's called?
Starting point is 00:48:32 What? Strangways. Oh, my God. What? How much is it? We're going to find out? Oh, my God. I mean, right now, it's $6.75 a night.
Starting point is 00:48:50 That's it? Yeah. I mean, I know that's a lot, but I guess I'm thinking of the Bahamas place. June, 315. $315 a night. Oh my God. I think I'm thinking of the Bahamas place where Casino Real was shot.
Starting point is 00:49:04 That one is like $11,000 a night. Well, I think you can get his house for $10,000 a night or something like that. Whoa, that's crazy. Anyway, I'm glad we figured that out. How many bedrooms in his house, I wonder? It's probably not that big. I think it's six.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Six bedrooms? I think so, yeah. Whoa. I'm telling you. So that'd be like $1,200 a night. per couple. Yes. Still a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:49:30 But if you only do like, if you do three nights, it's kind of like, we did it. We stayed at a need of Fleming's house. And we pay it. $30,600. Do you think they deliberately
Starting point is 00:49:45 each unbuttoned one button? Yeah, I bet there was a bit of a pissing contest between these two. Do you think that Jack Lord, and maybe this is known, and I just have not, do you think Jack Lord was considered?
Starting point is 00:49:59 For Bond? Yeah. I don't think. think so but didn't he not come back because of money or something or was it Hawaii 50? I forget why he didn't come back. When did they need him again? Gold and I right? I mean Goldfinger rather. He's not in from Russia with Love because he's all over Turkey in that. Yeah, Goldfinger. And that was 64. Hmm. I love quarrel. I really, I'll say it every time I see him. Yeah. I've never seen I've never seen a person who's more he doesn't. He doesn't
Starting point is 00:50:33 offer quarrel a cigarette. That's weird. Is it weird or is it just classism on this island? Yeah, I think it's more than classism. Do you think that she was excited to see Mr. Bond again after what she did the other day? She's calling the office to leave messages she's pretending to be
Starting point is 00:50:52 from his office. Yeah. Hello, this is for James Bond. What was that guy? Do you see that guy that walked by in the background? Yeah, that's strange. Look at the set outside. side too.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I just think it's so this is all furniture I feel like I've thrown out at some point. Yeah. I mean I like the idea of a rounded sort of nightstand end table situation that you can have that has multiple shelvings in it
Starting point is 00:51:24 but it is impractical. Yeah. I never understood this scene. This has always bothered me in the sense that they literally Look how much he's weaving. They wrote out this dialogue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:38 She says this dialogue. They then have him driving during this dialogue. He is sloshed. He was weaving into the other lanes. You know what I think? I think that the camera truck that he was behind was causing him a little trouble.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Maybe, but he's not connected to it. I mean, he, well, we know he's just shit-faced probably at all times. He just holds his liquor wheel. He is. Look at how much he's moving his steering wheel and the close-up shots. Yeah. I like that. Look, that is. Look, that is a clear non-wig. That is just wind-blown hair.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Yeah. In a way that you just can't argue with. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. The three-blind mice drive around in a hearse. Is this the three-blind mice? Isn't it? Aren't they always around in a hearse?
Starting point is 00:52:23 It would not explain why we don't, do we not see them again after this? I forget. And we don't cut into that car, do we? I don't know. Is that a hearse? Have you, what was the last time you drove an old car? without power steering. Oh, I, uh, and on our honeymoon, Amanda rented something sort of similar, like an old sports car.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Right. And that was really fun to drive. But you do end up moving the steering wheel like James Bond right there. Oh, no kidding. Because I used to, I learned to drive in a Volkswagen bus, a 1970 bus, and that thing was, you really had. And it was one of those like flat steering wheels, like a bus. So you had to kind of like get your whole body into it.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I like the, uh, grunt. I don't like that we don't know who's in that. But I think it's pretty well established that it's the three blind mice. Unless there's like a cut scene, a post-credit scene we never saw or the three blind mice try to get James Bond. I also think it was so foolish of them to be driving with all those open containers of gasoline. Yeah, that's just not smart. Here it is. That's not a wig.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Look at that. No. There's no way. That's just perfect hair. I think that guy feels. He got the first one-liner in James Bond history delivered to him. Yeah. I loved him when I was there, too.
Starting point is 00:53:50 If he was alive and that podcast was alive. Sans Suu C Resort. Wow. You know how you, on your I was there too, podcasts you had on the hotel manager in Ghostbusters? Yeah. Mark had him on, yeah. I was, yeah, well, I was watching an episode of Star Trek and I was like, oh, this guy's great, this guy's great, this guy's great, it was him.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Oh, yeah, he did a lot. Yeah. And you couldn't always tell it was him. He'd show up in different ways. We've probably talked about this on the podcast before, but she has... Whether or not that's a towel dress? It's a towel dress. It's both a towel and a dress.
Starting point is 00:54:31 But I think those exist. Correct me if I'm wrong. Probably, but... That was a very forceful kiss. Yeah. that shouldn't be a surprise from this bond but also he's going to smell the towel if I remember correctly
Starting point is 00:54:48 oh actually he wipe his oh did he wipe his mouth off yeah she doesn't have a lot of lipstick or is he just disgusted by her and he's going through the motions too what if James Bond wasn't into this and he was just doing it for Queen and Country you mean he's gay
Starting point is 00:55:04 could be uh huh or he just is like I just, my one true love is dead, Tracy. Oh. And he hates doing this, but he's like, this is what's expected of me. I'm James Bond. People need me to do this. And he hates himself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I mean, there's an argument to be made that Vesper heard him so bad that the reason he's such a misogynist is he's doing a sort of revenge thing. On the entire gender. Yeah. Poor guy. She looks sunburned. Well, I mean, look, if you were busy trying to pretend to be of Asian descent all day, you'd be sunburned too. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:55:46 What do you have to work out in the field? What does that mean? Matt, question for you. Yes, sir. Is this, am I crazy? Or is this the same tie he's been wearing throughout the entire film? I didn't look. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:03 It's a knit blue tie. Yeah, probably. It's strange. I had never noticed that. I'll make you a Chinese dinner here. I'm feeling Italian and musical. Why is he feeling Italian and musical? Both of them are so, like, he's just saying, no, I want Italian.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Like, it will be what I want it to be. But I think they relent, right? Well, she wants him to stay because he's going to kill him, yeah. He just hung up the phone if you're still watching with us. Oh, she gets it now. Good cover. He does not care about her sheets No
Starting point is 00:57:05 What is his watch there? Is that a Rolex? You're asking me? I don't know watches, you're the watch guy I'm asking you I don't know Hi This is my single cousin I think you guys would hit it off
Starting point is 00:57:24 I love how angry that women get when they're caught Like it's not just like Oh no what am I going to do They're just like God damn it Well I think part of that too is like Also you slept with me You're an asshole I'm going to spit in your face.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And I do like that they stay on him as he wipes it off. I'm going to find out what his watch is in this movie. That's a big ass suitcase record player. Yeah, that's pretty cool. He's going to pour himself a drink here. Two drinks. Hmm. To make it look like they've had their fun.
Starting point is 00:58:16 So in Doctor No, it is a Rolex in the book, which is not surprising. Because Fleming himself wore a Rolex explorer reference 1016 on an extendable oyster riveted strap. Jeez. What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? Affliction for Rolex is apparent in the first James Bond film where Bond played by Sean Conner casually straps on a Rolex submariner without a date display while hunting the nefarious doctor no for whom the movie is named. Reference 6358 has a...
Starting point is 00:58:54 leather strap here. Film buffs believe that this model was one of Sean Connery's personal possessions. Wow. There it is. Oh, that is good looking with the leather strap. Yeah. I like that. Well, that's sort of what the, I'm not wearing it today, but the Spector one looks very much like that with the brown leather strap. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:59:16 I think you and I both agree this is one of our favorite scenes in the movie. Yeah. You know, I've come to appreciate this movie more because it's just kind of a slow burn spy story, detective story. It's not full of action set pieces at all. Really, there's nothing big in it except the big explosion at the end. You have to alternate. Dragon. Color of suit on a solitaire game?
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah. Okay. I was just asking for a friend. Were they not? It was me. I didn't know how to play. You don't know how to play solitaire game. Well, I didn't remember how to play.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I spent a lot of time alone. I played so much solitaire. I played on a computer. By the way, I love how many bullets Stringway pumps into him. He would have been sure. Look how he doesn't bother to tuck the back of his tie in, though. Well, he's the only one not wearing a... Oh, look at the old cord, the old...
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yeah. The old fabric-covered cords. Also, look how Stringway... I always think he's... Anyways, just sits on that table like he's, I don't know, just having a nice little chat. Well, he's doing it so he can possibly get this gun. Yeah. And thusly win the battle of the British tall guys.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Pinky ring. Never noticed until just now. I wish that he, I'm working for, I wish he finished a sentence as he was shooting. Dent shot Bond six times. After some plot explanation by Bond, Dent lurches for the gun. This is Sithna Weston. You've had your six.
Starting point is 01:01:07 There was some more trivia there. I didn't read it in time, everybody. I'm so sorry. You keep talking. I'm going to keep talking. I'm going to take a Walter PPPK. Walthor PPCs are allowed during commentaries. Okay, I want to talk about Jack Lord's hat in the scene, everybody.
Starting point is 01:01:23 It's as bonkers as the sunglasses. are dames he says dames from what dames look at this this is a full terry cloth a full powder blue terry cloth situation pre terry cloth so we're looking at a powder blue golf shirt powder blue pants the affinity for powder blue is established early and often in the james bond franchise i wish i had trivia about why that boat was pr 23 but i do not this looks like it was day for night, meaning they shot this during the day and just dark into the film. The name of the score, the title, the track here off the Monty Norman score is called the Island Speaks. Quarles really, really taking that rum down. I wonder if
Starting point is 01:02:39 coral would have made it off of this island if he wasn't so drunk. They're going to raise sail. meanwhile Jack Lord's off on his boat probably headed for Hawaii or to see Dano where he will book him as a Hawaii 5O reference By the way I'd watch an entire movie that was just Quarrel and James Bond on a boat on a tiny dinghy
Starting point is 01:03:03 with a sail that is maybe the size of a bed sheet I can't imagine their radar would be good enough to pick that sail up that just seems completely implausible it's a different boat now everybody What I miss I was talking about the fact that I would watch an entire buddy movie That is the two of them on this boat
Starting point is 01:03:25 Oh yeah Lost at sea Coral I don't know if you know this Matt But Coral has had a lot of rum To prep himself for this dragon Oh wow So
Starting point is 01:03:37 God we're already to the island I gotta think we are to the island pal Didn't go back home after this They don't go back home This is the stretch to the end. This is, we're in the home stretch. We're in the powder blue stretch, as I like to say. Yeah, look at that.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's a good looking outfit. Both of them. It's dark. Well, it's day for night, as I explained to our audience. Yeah, but it's dark on the screen, yeah. Yeah. Is that a jug of water or rum? That's rum.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Wow. Also, I like the, uh, underneath the mango tree callback. I know. That said Diana, Dupon. Was Diana Coupland the one who wrote that? song? No, Monty Norman wrote it, but she sang it. Oh, I see. Bon's eyeline day. What he sees, honey. Starting at the water's edge, her back to him. She is naked, except for a whisp. Oh, that's from the script. That sure is. Ursula, Andres. My dad used to talk about this scene.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Boy, I tell you, Matt, I'd never seen anything like it. A late. A lateh with a knife. The bikini was sold at Christie's in 2001 for 35,000 pounds. That seems cheap. Purchased by Robert Earl of Planet Hollywood, of course. Kinney Top was made from an underwear bra, sold from Sakswood Avenue, New York. Costum designer Tessa ordered three of the bras, covering them with cotton, refining the design. The belt scene in the film was made from a white webbing.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Army belt with brass fittings and scabbard. After the film's release, bikini swimwear sales skyrocketed. That thing was expected to fetch 40,000 pounds, but it only got 35. That's surprising. In 2001. I bet if it's old now, it would get over 100. Now Matt and I are watching and reading. Julie Christie was almost cast as Honey Rider, but Albert R.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Broccoli reportedly thought her breasts were too small. well Albert R. broccoli well you know if I'm out there I'm making spaghettis
Starting point is 01:06:09 I need to look at a bosom Matt you got any snacks do you need snack you want to snack? I can snack you I'll cover this BRB
Starting point is 01:06:19 okay um James Bond this is the only time James Bond ever sings in a Bond film is that true I guess it is
Starting point is 01:06:32 is? Well, he whistles rural Britannia in living daylights. He never sings again? I'm thinking. He doesn't sing. Lazyz-B doesn't sing somehow when he's just strutting around up on the mountain top. Hmm. Well, I'm all alone. We all know, of course, that Ursula Anders was dubbed here by, I believe, the same woman that dubbed all the women in the first films. Something like that. Oh, here we go. Oh, what do we got? Whoa, what is this?
Starting point is 01:07:17 It's a granola bar. I opened it for you because it would have been too loud to open on the podcast. Thank you. I'll eat off, Mike. What is this pistol shrimps radio? Snacks. That hits the spot. Harry Saltzman and Albert Rer Berkeley cast Sean Connery
Starting point is 01:07:38 because they liked how he was. big tough looking, but nonetheless, moved gracefully, like a cat. Can you think of another time that he sings? Does Lasonby sing at all? No. I can't think of another time he sings. My favorite ADR in the history of movies. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:08:00 The whitest voice. It's not even that. It's just the incongruity between how his mouth is moving. Also that he takes the megaphone down and still has... Yeah, the loudest voice on the planet. The Bren gunboat, CNN patrol, has no magazine attached when it's first shown,
Starting point is 01:08:28 but later, supposedly, when it's firing, the bullets ricochet. Wait, what? I don't understand. Oh, that's interesting. They do make a ricochet sign, even though they're just firing at sand. Yeah. Yep, there is no magazine on that.
Starting point is 01:08:44 There is. Now. Oh, there is above. Oh, I see. A top load magazine. Move along. Let's get out. That's what it is. Full speed ahead. That's amazing. Now, are they playing coral as though he's afraid of the crab?
Starting point is 01:09:06 Not at first, but now it seems he is. Like, he's a fisherman. Like, he loves a blue crab. I don't like the way Coral's character arc goes. It's not a great arc. It starts out antagonizing. Yeah. Friendliest human being on the planet.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Knowledgeable. Yep. And then superstitious, terrified man. What do you think Coral Jr. is doing right now? Yeah, he has to be born before this. He's got to exist, yeah. Well, this is 62, and Coral Jr. shows up in 73. So how old would you say Coral Jr. is in Live and Let Die?
Starting point is 01:09:50 Let's say conservatively is 22 years old. No way. I'm conservative. He's got to be like close to 30, right? You think so? So he's like 19 right now. Well, I can tell you how old the actor is in that in that in Royce. Roy Stewart plays Coral Jr.
Starting point is 01:10:13 His father is Coral. His status is active. He hasn't been killed in Canon. So Roy Stewart was born in 1925. Whoa. So he was up there in that movie. And John Kitts Miller. He's 48 in Live and Let Die?
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah. Wait, so then he's 37. Hang on. Let me just say John Kitts Miller died in 1965 at the age of, So he was born in 1913, John Kitzmiller. So he was 49. Yeah. So he had Coral when he was...
Starting point is 01:11:03 If you're going just canonically by the dates that are here... 12. Yeah. I guess that's physically possible. It sure is. Coral Jr. had his son when he was 12. No, Coral had his son when he was 12. Yeah, Coral had his son when he was 12.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Yep. and right now his son is 37. In this, I'm into it. It seems to make sense to my brain. Coral Jr. is 37 in this. Yeah. Roy Stewart, also Jamaican. Really getting to the bottom of... He only passed away in 2008.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Oh, really? Coral Jr. Wow. Then this guy died three years after this movie. Yeah. He didn't seem old enough. I wonder what he died of. It's a lot of,
Starting point is 01:12:04 you'll find, you'll find a lot of people in this period of time that died in their 50s. Yeah. And then you, just like you pass that, you're good,
Starting point is 01:12:16 like Connery. Yeah. Once you escape that, that period of time in your life, apparently. Yeah. You're clear sailing.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I mean, isn't Ursula Anders still alive? Yeah. I believe so. Jack Lord died pretty young. Right?
Starting point is 01:12:34 Ursula Andrews is 82. Wow. What year did Jack Lord die? I'll tell you in a second here, Matt. Jack Lord passed away in 1998 at 77. I didn't, I thought he died much younger. Passed away in Honolulu, Hawaii. Wow, that's appropriate.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Bumpap, bha-p-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-w. So Hawaii 5-0 was on for 12 seasons. Whoa. You're talking about the new one. Might as well be at this point. Wow. When series creator Leonard Freeman of Hawaii 50 passed away in 1974, the show's ownership was shared among Lord CBS and the Freeman Estate.
Starting point is 01:13:34 With a contract that made Lord executive producer and gave him complete control over content. Jeez. He was a hands-on partner who paid attention to minute details. also known for battles with network executives. Wow. Look at Ursula Andes' reaction to that was priceless. Jack Lord died, leaving in a state of $40 million. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:14:07 That's a lot for then. I wonder if his family has any ownership over the new Hawaii 50. Probably. Good for them. Yeah. They probably spent the 40 million and they needed to get back into it. You smell better already, so he must have just reeked. Well, I mean, look, he's on a boat all night.
Starting point is 01:14:31 with Quarrel who's been drinking. Yeah. Right. They think these are, they think, he thinks these are dragon tracks. They both think there's dragon tracks. That's where he breathed. I've got six bullets. The end.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And I'm going to protect us against the dragon. You think that's what he tells people? He's a detective. Yeah. Would it be just be more, behoove him more to be like, I'm a spy. Yeah. Unless we're back to the theory I have, which is he doesn't like it. He just, he misses his wife.
Starting point is 01:15:16 He does. Or a Vesper. Although I guess at this time, canonically, no wife. I'm learning that this is going to be an interesting process to encounter it's because it is in my nature about halfway through a movie to fall asleep. That is, well, look, I think we should be sure to do it during the day. Yeah, I'll have to have some coffee. Keep you fueled up as best we can. I'm like, oh, I have this Pavlovian feeling of, like, comfort.
Starting point is 01:15:44 It's not a bad thing. Like, I'm just... Well, I think here's the situation with these James Bond movies particularly. They are warm blankets to us. That's right. So what are we going to do when we get to, like, like, octopusy's going to lull me right to sleep? We are... We have to do octopusy at 9 a.m.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Tomorrow Never Dies is going to bore me to sleep. Tomorrow Never Dies is an action adventure romp from the late 90s that I think will be... will be impossible to not just eat it up with a spoon. Hook me up to like electrodes. Do you need a caffeine situation? No, I'm good. I'm not tired, actually. I'm just like relaxed.
Starting point is 01:16:24 You know what I mean? I get it because this is a relaxing situation. I mean, look at the eyebrows on him. Right now he looks like he looks like the masked him in from Russia with love. When they pull the Sean Connery mask off. He does. He's got a very red lip situation. and the eyebrows are pronounced more than anything I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Boy, man, I'm excited to be back to James Bonding. It's been a while. It's been too long. We haven't recorded since September in front of a live studio audience. That's right. It's good, too. It's exciting. Bond 25 is coming back.
Starting point is 01:16:56 We've probably already covered this. So much happening out there. Look at Rolex. Now I'm into that Rolex. Look at that rolled cuff. Captain Quirk. I'm into that rolled cuffed. That'd be a good name for him.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Captain Quick. Captain Quick. But I have to say, I think Dr. No always does lose me a little bit around here. I don't understand. It's got the problem of all James Bond movies. I mean, literally all of them. The downbeat before the villain and he actually come in contact with each other seemed, it's so long. I mean, there's probably like another 25 minutes of this movie.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Even more, maybe, a half hour. Like, check, see how much. I can tell you. I'll tell you right now. 34 minutes. 34 minutes. The dragon. It's a car.
Starting point is 01:18:02 James Bond creator Ian Fleming based, the Dragon tank on a marshland swap utility vehicle with very large wheels, which he had seen in 1956 on the island of In Agua? In the Bahamas. Bonn's gun changes from Walter P.P.K. to occult 45. Oh, my God. What a continuity error. The charred trees in the area where James Bond confronts the dragon are part of a sanctuary for rare birds that Dr. No has disruptive. All mentions of the sanctuary was deleted from the final film.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I didn't know. There's some trivia on here. I didn't know. So I guess plot-wise, right? That would be like, it's a bird sanctuary so no one can go on there. Maybe that's the... That's the whole how they keep people off crab key. So they keep people off crab key by having it be a protected bird sanctuary. And then they also have to have a dragon and then the most brutal death in Bond history right there. He's just burned alive.
Starting point is 01:19:02 I mean, between that and Benicio del Toros. You know what, I think, which way would you rather go? Oh, man. They're not great... no, there's no clear choice there. Maybe the fire, believe it or not? Really? Are you, are you basing that because your entire body would be having the same sensation?
Starting point is 01:19:30 Yeah, I think you'd go numb right away. Whereas the, the chopper thing, you'd, like, you'd feel it in your feet and you'd feel yourself. I mean, you'd be alive for quite a while. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe you're right. That's one of the more gruesome deaths.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Yeah, most gruesome deaths, we could rank those. That sounds fun Tune into James Bonding Where we're ranking the most gruesome deaths Doesn't VJ in Octopus You get killed by that yo-yo slicer? Yes Oof, that one's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:19:59 But it's unclear how that gets him Could be fright Well, no They're holding him down He gets it to the face, I assume You're always assuming it's the face It's always the face with you I mean, they're pretty brutal here
Starting point is 01:20:13 With this guy that they're about to put in a Very fancy underground hotel. Four seasons sweet. I love that the dragon has like fins, but not like dragon fins, but like Ford car fins. Look at these pulley systems that are dropping this. That's a very complicated door.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Yeah. I kind of like it. The kind of thin that guy is in that suit. This is very... This is insane. The size of this Geiger counter they have there. And a room just for scrubbing off radiation, but... you go on a conveyor belt.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Do you think, um, that guy loves his job. That guy loves his job. The guy that sprays them down with foam. They didn't even get their faces. I know. They should just incinerate the clothes, right? They do.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Oh. You know me. We're doing that thing where we watch it. I'm so sorry, everybody. That's okay. I mean, there's going to be some of that because assuming they'll probably want to watch too. But they don't get to hear what we're hearing.
Starting point is 01:21:37 well they'll be watching with the movie they better be oh right hope you guys are watching at home if you're not if you're not that's just a moment to reflect and imagine what's happening right now they're taking a shower on a conveyor belt and it's an active shower we know that because the sign is telling us so right do you think these guys get off the island for any sort of uh relaxation do you think that they have families off the island yeah probably do you think that they were contracted from like some people were lured away from like NASA yeah aren't they all are they Chinese all the workers
Starting point is 01:22:17 because of Dr. No I forget oh maybe that's part of it do you think they have families back on the mainland of China maybe look at there's a Terrycloth Terry cloth baby blue
Starting point is 01:22:34 have we discovered what that is how that came to be maybe it was just how it became so anonymous with James Bond as a color. Look at, oh, it's beautiful. I mean, even look at that from Russia would love record right there. Tatiana's wearing a powder blue dress.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Yeah, I mean, it's there. We know. But why? What other, like, I cannot even, like, think of another movie that features powder blue. You can't? Like, outside of James Bond. Well, now I've got to do it. Maybe Quint's shirt and jaws?
Starting point is 01:23:13 Um. Like that... Matt, how do you think they made that brass door? I think that's just like a foil, a brass foil they put over the whole thing? I don't know, yeah, maybe. Because there's no chance that that's... No. That heavy.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Look at this room is incredible. This design is incredible. That rock? Oh. Why is this stained? This chair is stained. Everything else is pristine. There's this stained chair that they're sitting on that I'm not.
Starting point is 01:23:49 I've never noticed in my life. This, I will say it again. I believe I said it the last time we were talking about this movie, Matt, but God, I would stay in this hotel in a second, and these people seem to be genuine hospitality experts. No windows, but still. Do you need a window? Yeah, I mean, you need a window at some point. Let's say you went into a hotel and you didn't have a window, but this was the room they gave
Starting point is 01:24:14 you? How would you feel? I'd feel pretty good. Actually, yeah, I wouldn't mind. Look at that interesting divider too. Rug on rug. We do it in here. Oh, you do, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:26 You got to separate, delineate somehow. Yeah. I'm on a baibu chair, Matt. None of it makes sense. Hmm. Right. We'd like some hardwood, Matt, but we rent, so. But this is just the only room with carpet, right? No, the carpet goes all the way down to the bedroom.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I don't know. I'm a fan of carpet in the bedroom. That I like. You know, when I go to a hotel and it's hardwood, I'm very not happy about it. Yeah, especially if it's like that tile or something. Cold on the feet. No cold. I want a warm foot.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Me too. I also like a room in a house that you can lie down on the floor. Yes. I don't have that currently. We don't have lie down spaces. We can't get you between the kitchen and the living room. We can't get a lie down right there? Well, there's no rug.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Oh, you need a rug to lie down. Yeah. Look, this, man, honestly, I wish they didn't drink the coffee. Yeah, because then they just have this amazing. Because then they'd get to just enjoy this time. What if they didn't want the coffee? Why do they even drug them? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:28 To make sure they don't enjoy themselves? Do they? There's also books there. I want to know what those books are. Probably every plan Dr. No has for the next hundred years. That's why they have to drug them. Did you put them in the room with the books? You better bring them the coffee.
Starting point is 01:25:47 The library room. There is no point to this move. Yeah. Unless these hospitality experts don't feel like tending to their everyone in need. So they just were like, let's put them to bed for like eight hours. That's what all hotels should do. If your hotel came with a guaranteed eight hour and sleep, eight hour restful sleep, but it cost $100 more a night than another hotel, would you go to it?
Starting point is 01:26:12 Yeah, because I cannot sleep. I'm so bad at sleep. Oh, he does it so he can go in and just come in and touch his face, right? Touch his face with his metal hand that has no feeling. Really weird. Very cool shot. Very high heels. Those are kind of like white versions of the Connery shoes that you have.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Of the Never Say Nevers. Yeah, Matt's got Connery's shoes from Never Say Never. True story. It's amazing. A pair of shot on. They're huge. What is this? Honestly, he just wants to see what he's dealing with?
Starting point is 01:26:46 Yeah. And also like, you don't have a camera in there? pal you got everything else going on what is and someone came and put them back in bed well obviously the hospitality experts yeah that's what i'm calling them that's so weird there's no reason for that and now she's awake and has her choice of dresses she's really she's really has her shirt off a lot in this movie yeah she does boy 1962 what like what an amazing movie this would have been I know. Just like, what a blockbuster.
Starting point is 01:27:27 What do you think of the Mandarin collar on James Bond and the fact that it is exactly what his brother wears in Specter? Right. I like it for a change. Carl Berberheuser. Do you, in your brain, Matt, right now. Yeah. Do you think, when you think of Blofeld, do you think that he's James Bond's, half his stepbrother?
Starting point is 01:27:56 No. It never just enters your mind as canon. No. Even though it is currently canon. Nor does Christoph Waltz. Correct. Christoph Waltz has yet to enter my brain. When you think of M, who do you think of?
Starting point is 01:28:09 Bernard Lee. Yeah. Yeah. That's correct. But I mean, then I second thought, I think of Judy Dench and Rayfe finds. Yep. And Q, I think of Desmond, Lelellan. I always think of Desmond, Lewellyn.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I always think of Desmond, Louis, Maxwell. When you think of Bond, who do you think of? John Connery. Yeah, I do too. Yeah. I think of Connery first. They must have, like, sold out of this metallic paint. You know, it's funny when I think of James Bond, the first thing I think of, actually,
Starting point is 01:28:43 is the typeface of the old, like, Helvetica typeface of James Bond, and then, like, a painting of Sean Connery is what I, like, kind of the poster art is what I picture. That's very interesting. Oh, you have to see this Thunderball poster in person. It's rolled up right there. I'll have to show it to you when we're done here. You know, I'm doing a Thunderball Stunt Spectacular drawing coming soon. I'm very excited about the underwater activities that'll be happening.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Just over at Matt Gourley. Matt Gourley, how would people maybe take a look at the last two you did? All you got to do is go to Matt Gourley.com and right there on the front page is a link to the last two stunt spectaculars. I just finished drawing Connery's face and I used up a whole thing of lead just on his eyebrows. Matt, we wait with great anticipation to see the outcome of the Thunderball stunt spectacular. Yeah, I mean, maybe by the time this comes out, it'll be pretty close. We're recording this on what, like January 26th? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Yeah. One million dollars, Mr. Bonn. Not really, but thank you. 799. Everything points at everything it starts labeling. Just pick it up. There's a price. tag on the bottom. That desk, $200. The meal you're about to eat. Your sleepy time coffee,
Starting point is 01:30:10 $45. I bought it in bulk. My steel hands, priceless. This is the first bit of psychological warfare James Bond tries to play on people. Yeah. I think I'm remembering this fun fact from the first time we did this, that I can't remember if it's, I think, the glass. I think the glass that they used, or the lens that they had to project those fish was the wrong size. And so it made the fish really big and there was nothing they could do about it. So they had to throw in that line about the glass making it look bigger than it is. That's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:52 This painting, we didn't get the joke until we read about it. Yeah. That is a painting that was stolen in 1961. And he passed it while going up the stairs. It was recovered in 1965. Look at that picture of Joseph. Weisman without his makeup, he's a handsome guy. Not that he's not there, but he's just so weird looking. You know what he looks like? He looks like he's about to marry Liza Minnelli.
Starting point is 01:31:19 He does, yeah. What's his name, Jose Ferrer? I don't know. No, I'm thinking of Audrey Hepburn's. I want to discuss what we're seeing on this table here. Okay, first of all, three glasses, four glasses. sure one of them is like a brandy glass. Yeah. Look, he's just got grapes on his plate right now. He's got four grapes. Or are those olives? No, those are four grapes.
Starting point is 01:31:46 They have to be grapes, right? I don't know. Maybe they're olives. Do you think it would be very funny? Would it take you out of the movie at all? If he took his robot hand, pulled one of the fingers off and put a fork attachment on? Would it take you out of it at all? Would this movie be worse for that?
Starting point is 01:32:05 He takes one finger. off and it's a salt shaker and he just pours a little salt up. You guys, I'm so glad that we're doing this again. This is bringing me joy. Look at that chair. It's got a, he's got a furry wooden chair. Six thousand dollars, Matt Goalie. I know you were wondering what you were.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Got it at the Rose Bowl flea market. I said on late Sunday, do you really want to take this back with you? I see no one's bought it. I'll take it off your hands for half price if you throw in that candelabra. Oh no, tragedy strikes. We're okay. We're okay. We're okay, everybody.
Starting point is 01:32:47 We drop the recorder where we were having so much fun. If you are a candelabra fan, tune in. I'm going to get everybody's audio back, Matt. Just one second here. Everybody at home probably heard not a ton of anything. So this is on that. There we go. she's being pulled away from the table
Starting point is 01:33:06 if you're back with us. I'm sure the guards will amuse her. I mean, he's not wrong. Yeah. Also, like, James Bond completely agrees in that moment is like, yeah. He's not a savage. Which brings me back to the Skyfall, uh, McKellen.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yeah. Right? It's a waste of good whiskey. Precedent. Yeah. Or Scotch. Sorry. Sorry, everybody.
Starting point is 01:33:36 this guy this guy I'll tell you what this guy looks like right now this guy looks like I'm talking about the guard and the green tie behind James Bond looks like a
Starting point is 01:33:49 in over his head chef on a Gordon Ramsey Save My Restaurant type show yeah I agree man I'm trying to figure out if we're hearing the buzzing alone or if the people at home are hearing it
Starting point is 01:34:01 I think that fixed it that's good well now it's back Hello? Headed by the greatest brains on the world. We've got my brain. Three million dollars. Billion dollar brain.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Million dollar baby. Billion dollar maybe. These movies do have a... I sold these chairs to trade a Vic. These Bond movies have a way of slamming America. Yeah, but in like a fun way. Yeah. because was there one recently where they didn't take money and what am I thinking of where they
Starting point is 01:34:47 get euros instead of dollars and it sort of felt like ooh the end of an era because every movie ever has always been I wanted an American dollars yeah what am I thinking of you're not wrong you're not wrong how many takes you think I took for him to be able to grab that with that weird glove like what do you think that glove is like do you think it's like a cast resin I have a lot I think it's probably like aluminum or something. You know, that's that, um, when Robocop catches the keys when he's heading out, that took apparently, it took, like honestly, I, I think it took like 70 takes. I can imagine.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Because you could never feel it hit the, yeah, you could never feel it hit the thing or time it correctly. To which I say, Peter Weller, try harder next time. Yeah, please. There's a reason he wasn't. Hey, doc, are you going to come back down to doctoring? This is his med school, this is his med school buddy. He's come to see him.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Teachers assistant. Look how he wipes his mouth. That's so elegant. Well, I mean, you would too if your hands would crush your skull. Yeah. What's the story of the Chinese mafia or the government cut his hands off? Yeah, I think he's like, uh, I don't know. I was going to say, yeah, exactly right, Matt, but I really don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Nor do I... I beat him right there at the dinner table. Can you imagine just getting karate chopped so softly? Yeah. That probably feels pretty good. I know. It's just like a rough massage. Also like what happened to him in that span?
Starting point is 01:36:25 Like he is pretty crushed up there. They gave it to him. This looks like post-electricution. They had another scene. Do you know what I mean? Again, look at that, look at this set. No, yeah. Angular walls, a little bit of that copper paint.
Starting point is 01:36:40 foil. It's like Ken Adam is coming from theatrical scene design, like in the theater, not the movies. Because that was my undergrad degree, and I remember I had this real contentious relationship with my professor. He almost hit me. Is that true? Yeah. But at the same time, I learned so much from this man. He was brilliant. And he would just, like, ask us questions of, like, why does that wall need to be perpendicular? Why can it angle out? Why wouldn't it look better? Like, you don't have to be literal, you can be heightened. And I think that's why I love Ken Adam is because there are certain things that just do not make sense in a practical sense.
Starting point is 01:37:19 But visually, they're so pleasing. And why not in a movie like this? It's not, you know, supposed to be a straight up drama. I think it is truly, I find it to be one of the most aesthetically pleasing film series. Yeah, same. Definitely. the new tinker taylor soldier spy does that for me too that design of that like their headquarters there the circus is amazing this is your classic james bond crawling through a jeffreys tube inside of a starship
Starting point is 01:37:55 why are they called jeffrey's tubes well actually they're called jeffries tubes on star trek because the designer of the original of the enterprise the actual artist who drew the enterprise was matt jeffreys so their little nod to him was to always call those corridors jeffrey's tubes interesting That was now Facts with Matt. Tune in tomorrow for more Facts with Matt. Crossover. Look, you can see Connery's... Meat and two veg?
Starting point is 01:38:26 That was a clear stunt double, right? It might have been, but it also felt like not intentional. I think that was a stunt double. I'd go back, but we're watching together, everybody. He's just grabbed his shoulder, and now he's crawling away. It's like going to the movie theater. You can't go back. We can't.
Starting point is 01:38:41 In a way, it's... kind of nice because it does hold us to this two-hour situation. He's doing some Chevy Chase hand acting there. Like Chevy Chase does brilliant comedy things with his hands, but if you ever, if you ever meet James Boyden in person, ask him to do Chevy Chase hands because he's so good at it. I look forward to hopefully meeting James Bladen in person again this season of James Bond. Yeah, that's right. If we haven't already. I do love him so much. What's not to love? I really do. He might be my favorite person I never talk to except for doing podcasts. Honestly.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yeah. Tell him I want to be friends with him. See what he says. I can speak for him. See if you're going to arrange it. I'm sure he's in. He's a friendly guy. He's the best.
Starting point is 01:39:29 You know, James and I met through my, he was the friend of my girlfriend from a long ago. Oh, wow. The girlfriend and I broke up. But you stayed. You kept. But James and I, well, we didn't even, we weren't even close friends then. We just hit up a friendship later or struck up a friendship later. I have a couple friends like that that I got from relationships.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Collect them all. Oh, yeah. Accessories. Relationship accessories. As you know, I was best friends with Amanda. That's right. Our love of James Bond. And Dori and I were in the Marines together.
Starting point is 01:40:04 You guys did a great job with Israeli Army paratrooping. We did. Yeah. Do you think he was delighted by that? water coming over him? Like he felt a sense of cleanliness that he hadn't felt in a while. Probably cooled it down. That's a hot Jeffries too.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Or was it radioactive water and he's probably got more cancer than he's ever had to do before. Look at this. Copper. More of that copper. Copper on gray. Love this sound. No, it's the other one.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Matt, let me ask you a question right now. Yes. Do you see our molding in this room? Uh-huh. What do you think of doing a gray wall with a copper molding? Ooh, interesting. Whose idea is that yours? Mine right now.
Starting point is 01:40:53 From this movie, stealing the elements of copper. Yeah. I mean, then I'd have to, like, probably do the door frames. Well, I'll tell you what, I would maybe go gray with just a tiny hint of, tiniest hint of green in there. In the gray? Yeah, just to have a little color to go with the copper. Yeah. All of it muted.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I love it. Matt, you are the best. Oh, it's all I love for. It's funny, we were, uh... Connery, this is your classic Mark Hamill in a stormtrooper outfit situation reversed. Yeah, except it's less dignified. Like, somehow the clown suit is more dignified than this. I love these robot arms I'd never noticed until just now.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I didn't either, yeah. God, look at this set. Look at those lines. Watching these movies like this, I think is going to be kind of fantastic. Yeah, I agree. Because we're not going back and then having to skip forward. We're literally having to take it all in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I love these moon rockets. I know. I just know exactly what that suit smells like. It smells like those old Halloween costumes that you would buy in a box. Yeah, but those also, every eye hole and mouth cut my face up. Yes. That was the point they're those silver shamrock mats, but instead of melting your head, it was just death by a thousand cuts.
Starting point is 01:42:18 He-Man didn't wear a plastic poncho. Why am I wearing a plastic poncho? I don't know. These things were heaven. Those had a name. What were they called? There's an article on the history of those things that were read. Oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:42:29 They're not Don Post, right? Or are they? I don't know. I forget what they're called. That guy, uh, it's always interesting to me. well, it's always interesting to me how uninteresting nuclear technology is in films. Like the rods, the radiation levels, so on and so forth. It's always manufactured ticking clock danger.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Right. And it always is visually uninteresting. That's true. It's a shortcut that probably doesn't even really exist in real life. Visual shortcut. Yeah. Although I've got to say that the guy walking around, like these people right here, they don't have the airflow going into their suits.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Yeah. The guy that does have the airflow going into a suit seems probably happier than everybody else. Stay buff marshmallow, man. Chang, come on, Chang, get with it. Chang, you got time to lean, you got time to operate the nuclear capacitors. By the way, Dr. No, knowing everybody's name. Yeah. Knowing everybody's job and position.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Yeah, it's pretty good boss. Do you think he gives bonuses? Not knowing anyone's face. No. It's like, Dr. No is racist against his own kind. Or Dr. No also lost his eyes
Starting point is 01:43:47 from the triad. He has steel eyes. I'll say he does. That guy? Isn't there some funny sign in this one too? Well, there's missile tracking. No, there's another one that's like... Reactor on. I forget what it is.
Starting point is 01:44:00 We'll see it, I'm sure. A lot of TVs back there. I wish one of them was just watching a boxing match, like the Carousel of Progress. Look at those like diodes. Give him my left, you big lug. Weird newsreel footage of that guy that was next to the camera. Like, you missed it, Matt.
Starting point is 01:44:21 It was the shot right before there. Oh, the danger level? No, that's not it. By the way, what does that mean? Is 25 the danger level? And 30 is okay? And 24. So there is a international standard of danger level that this meter is checking.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Also, it is 25. It seems that anything above or below 25 is not dangerous. Oh, man, I went out last night. I'm telling you, danger level 24. Whoa, you were almost there. I know. We had to step it back. Let me tell you, man, I had one more.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I would have been on 25. You don't want to be on 25. You can be, I mean, if you could skip 25, go right to 26. It ain't ever been done. Oh, well, it's okay because it's not dangerous over there. Look at that model. I mean, you call it a model. I call it a clearly full-size.
Starting point is 01:45:10 satellite dish coming out of a copper tube. Oh, the Mercury spacecraft. It is weird they call it a moon rocket when the Mercury was only designed to do orbital flight. Oh. Mercury Atlas 6. Mercury was a single... Friendship 7.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Was a single astronaut. That's John Glenn, right? Yeah. I've just been reading about that. I got John Glenn autograph over there. I'll show you later, Matt. Seriously? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:45:42 And then Gemini or Gemini. Gemini. I love that they call it Gemini. Look at he's on danger level 35. Well, they should be fine with this because it's past the danger level. Yeah. I guess my question for that sign is, why not make everything beyond 25 red? I know.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Let me ask you a question. He just punched that air puffed guy in the face. Wouldn't that have cushioned him a little? Abandon area. That's a pretty good sign. Abandon area. Which one? I don't know. Whatever. Whoa. That's got a really... I mean, that would take you out those steel hands, right? Yeah. I think that, especially given what we've seen with them in crushing statues that could be made out of paper mashay. That's right.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Do you find that you, in your life, in a given sort of situation, you will refer to the movie Casino Royale as Cassino Royal. Occasionally, yeah. I do it more than I'd like and people look at me like I'm crazy. And I just go, I never mind. It's a podcast.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Oh, he's still trying. By the way, from the amount of scratches that are on the side of that thing, this isn't his first time in that pit. That's true. I also, I contend Dr. No's still alive.
Starting point is 01:47:08 First of all, he's wearing a hazmat suit. Second of all, it's full of air. Okay, all right, okay. I think it's possible that he's, just climbs out a couple minutes after this. Let me say the following to you. Do we know how much his... Hands way?
Starting point is 01:47:22 Cost. No. Way is correct. Yeah. Because what if they're weighing him down and he can't get out? Well, they were the last things in the water. He would have been all the way down. That's true.
Starting point is 01:47:31 That is true. Unless he couldn't climb out solely because of his hands. This movie ends with the great success of America. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Go. All right, Matt, you got to have one prop from this movie. What are you taking? Oh, boy. Oh, gosh. Oh, I'm taking Jack Lord's Felix. You're taking Jack Lord's Felix lighter glasses? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:02 What about you? I mean, you know, I'm trying to think in a practical sense here, just as far as like what would look good and what would look. I would take the shelf with the radio and put that in a bookshelf and have that flip down. Did you like that? He picked that guy up and says, where is she? And he said, I don't know. And he still slugged him. Like, he could have just run in safe time, but he had to slug him.
Starting point is 01:48:27 I love that he's slugging everybody. Yeah. I also love that even in a James Bond, not even in a James. This is the first James Bond movie, everybody. So let's really think about the fact that this sort of sets the standard for henchmen behavior. Yeah. So what this means is these people will not stop doing their job, even if their life is at risk. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:48:47 these are dedicated people but that's the work ethic of the 60s you know everyone you wouldn't find that today these millennials God do you think that if you and I could time travel do you think we would
Starting point is 01:49:04 be able to get ourselves onto the set oh absolutely and be people that jump in the water absolutely all you'd have to do is show up and I don't think anyone like I don't think security on movies
Starting point is 01:49:18 was a thing that much especially random like the first of all the first movie in jamaica all yeah if this is in jamaica we would show up and people would probably think we're with the production oh my god then we should we then verbatim write the next three james bond movie scripts and hand them in wouldn't that be amazing that's a screenplay we should write where we find a time machine and we decide to go back and create the james bond movie franchise yes but we need ian fleming alive that's right we capture him like Bill and Ted's. We get Ian Fleming to stop smoking in 1940, so he's alive throughout.
Starting point is 01:49:53 We get, instead of a DeLorean, we have an Aston Martin. Oh. And instead of going 88, it goes a leisurely 34. And instead of running on plutonium, it runs on gin martinis. I am just so delighted by the fact that James Bonding is back. That's right. We're doing commentaries for everybody. Right now the boat's coming back to take a look at James Bond.
Starting point is 01:50:17 just getting started. Jack Lord's going to swing by, talk about the dame. Yeah. Look at him. I brought the Navy. Look at how fucking cool he is. Yeah. Even Jack Lord's stance, too. I was just thinking of the fact that Connery right there, when he's well-welling them. Yeah. This is very, this music's great. Yeah. This is very traditional. traditional into the fucking underneath the mango tree. Yeah. You know, Jack Lord's thinking, God damn it, you scoundrel, I ought to. Why is he always get the babes?
Starting point is 01:51:09 I'm Jack Lord, for Christ's sake. It's the first time you work with him, sir. I don't care. I'm Jack Lord. I'm Lord. Lord is in the title. I'm part Kennedy, part God. Do you think they go back for him or do you think he somehow makes it back on his own?
Starting point is 01:51:25 I think Jack Lord. like bros understand this kind of thing and just says, all right, let's cruise for an hour and then we'll go back. Filmed in Jamaica at Pinewood Studios. Credits are rolling everybody. What is that next up? Next up is Roger Moore, a matter of class. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:51:44 It's some sort of Amazon Prime documentary I assume. On Roger Moore? Yeah. Oh, God. Maybe next time. Those credits lasted five seconds. That's it, guys. And then we have the 4K film scanning, blah, blah, blah, if you're watching it in 4K.
Starting point is 01:51:55 and then we're back to Leo everybody. Yep. Wow. Roar. We did it. Our first commentary. I have to say. It was great.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Yeah. And we're, you know, we're still learning. We're going to figure out that again. You know, Ian Fleming might pop back. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:12 In the future episodes. Mr. Broccoli as well. Mr. Broccoli will probably have to get a hold of his voice again because, quite frankly, we haven't heard in a while. But I'm excited about the possibilities. And I'm excited to be back on Stitcher Premium. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Or not Stitcher Premium. I don't know where you're hearing this. The Stitcher Premium, right? Probably. Because you don't want commercials in the middle of a commentary track. There'd be so much pausing. I know. You know who's got pause?
Starting point is 01:52:42 Leo the line. That's right. We'll see you next time. James Bonding. We'll return. James Bonding Podcast.

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