James Bonding - Bonus: Goldeneye Commentary

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

Get ready for some Brosnan as Matt and Matt talk you through a feature-length commentary of Pierce Brosnan's first 007 film, Goldeneye. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt and Matt and James Bonding Podcast. Hey everybody, welcome to James Bonding. I'm Matt. And I'm the other Matt, Matt Goreley. Do we, this feels like a new thing where you're trying to differentiate yourself from me. You don't want to be mistaken as Matt Myra. No, I just want the listeners to know. I'm just doing quality broadcast name checking. Oh, I did not think quality when I think of. me broadcasting.

Quantity podcast name checking. Quantum podcast name checking. Now we're talking. Now look, Quantum really never got off the ground. And quite frankly, I know they got the rights back to Spector. This has nothing to do with Golden Eye, which is going to be the commentary episode we're doing today. But we got a little time up front. Let me just talk about Quantum for a second.

I think it was very promising. And I thought it was a modern take on Spector. Yeah, Quantum was like a franchise that got bought out by Spector. And I don't mean that behind the scenes, but like they... Very strange. Like how, what am I thinking of like something that got subsumed by another company and ceased to be? What is an example of that? There's so many that I can't even think of it anymore.

Like, boy. The DuPont Network. This is, what a way to start a podcast. Wait, the DuPont Network is not a good example for you? No, but I'm thinking like thrifty got bought up by Rite Aid. Right. you're thinking of like an Arby's Hardee's situation, but Arby's and Hardy's still coexist. Yeah, but I don't think there are any more thrifties.

There's thrifty ice cream. You're blowing my mind right now. Yeah. So thrifty is the quantum of, or quantum is the thrifty. Of Spector. Of Super Spy organizations. So you're telling me, there's a chance. I go into Spector's headquarters and they have some quantum ice cream.

That's right. That's exactly right. Well, they've got the little pins for sale as a quaint little boutique thing like right-a-old You gotta get these quantum pins. They're quite a throwback. Oh man. And they are cheap and they get served to you a little scoop gone. Hello, James.

I've got you a quantum pin. And whoever. It could be anyone. It's literally anyone. Look, this is the golden eye commentary as we move through these films one by one. What was Alex Trevelyan's organization called? Didn't he have a name for it? The Yanna Syndicate?

Yeah, you're right. I mean, like... Which is the double-headed face god. Right. Right. So I feel like there's a lot of good crime syndicates out there that never got their due. Yeah, that's right. I would love to. Genco imports and Godfather basically got subsumed by Immobilieri.

I'm going deep in my Godfrey. Genco, Ryanhart, great gypsy guitar player. This is the Golden Eye Commentary. And before we get into it, we like to talk a little bit, get caught up ahead of time, then get these ads that we have out of the way so that the commentary runs. uninterrupted, and also we'd like to promote next week's episode because we recorded it yesterday, and man was it everything. It was what I would call a doozy.

A double-dus. Double-o-dusy. We did a six-person bond fantasy film draft, as promised. Snake draft, too, guys. Oh, man, and it took a while, but it does not lag. And I have no idea who's going to come out victorious in this. It's going to be very interesting. A lot of good picks all around.

I have to say almost all of my highest ranking pre-rank people things were picked. Yeah, I got a lot of what I wanted too. The guests include you, me, Mark McConville moderated. We had James Balin, James Bladen, Danny Price, Shannon Locke, Taryn Killam. And it was quite a crowd. It was really, here's what I was happiest about, Matt. I was happiest that our guests all took it seriously.

More so maybe than even us. Darren Killing came with like a typed multi-page spreadsheet of choices and options and forks in the road. It was amazing. It was like watching Bandersnatch. People watched movies to, yeah, to do preparation. It was really something. And I think that what this shows us is that the passion for the franchise is a lot of and well. Yeah, it warmed my heart. It put my faith back in America after these troubled times.

I mean, what a, what a day we could have, we could have, and we did, we had it. What a day, just sitting at your friend's house, talking into microphones, sidecard donuts, homemade donuts, and three hours of conversation, mostly and only about James Bond. There's a point where it coalesced to the happiest I've ever paid. It's true. He did say that. Yeah. It's on a record. You can actually hear Matt's, the warmth in his voice, just the pure joy. And I'm not kidding, I really have no idea who's going to win this one. I was left with no sense that someone was the runaway winner. So it's really going to be interesting. Listen to the episode. It's out next week for free. And there will be a link on our Twitter on how to vote for it. Because we took some real

time to do our plot synopsies and titles. Too much time? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, because Matt, I think you did the smart play on the title I honestly thought I thought we were doing one thing the guys went and wrote pages upon pages like they left with the treatment some people I think are not recording podcasts today they're off writing their James Bond scripts

pitching it they're out pitching it yeah but it was fantastic and I really think that you are all going to enjoy it heartily yeah so with that let's get on to Brosnan's first Bond film which many people love is one of their favorite Bond films.

Which is interesting. Gold and I, I have a teaser poster of it in my shed that I haven't ever hung up in this house. This is a Brosnan film, the rare Brosnan film

that I really enjoy. I don't believe it. Yeah. Tomorrow Never Dies is so much better, but we'll talk about that another day. But first, a word from our sponsor.

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That's right. Whoops, that was not play. Okay. There's our first roar. Pause. I ruined it. I'm ruined it.

Guys, we're going back. We're doing it. We're starting the roar over again. Well, they've probably paused in the right place. Okay, we are paused between roars. Is that not what we're supposed to do? No, that's right. Oh, okay.

But now we got it right. Oh, good. And now we're going to three, two, one into it. Ready? Yeah. Three, two, one, play. There's the second roar. But you all hear that, and then you're hearing the United Artists, and it is fading out as I speak.

It's a very jingling UA thing. Yeah. I forgot about the score. I know, the Eric Sarah score. Look, first of all, the first thing I want to say about Pierce Brosnan. it's a flowy tucks. Yeah, and it's a little flowy for my taste. His final gun stance is a little, I don't know, it's a little stringy. Like, I want him, I want his, I want his back foot back a little bit more.

Yeah, I want him to have a broader stance, so I know he ain't going to tip over. He's, I think he's really at this point just, um, it's a great dam. Well, it's a hell of an opening shot. That's a damn good damn. I mean, that's a really nice opening shot. Maybe one of the better ones. Let's see his reveal as compared with Sir Timothy Dolphiard. He's not a night yet.

I like that shot too. Like the camera's zooming in and then Bonn runs past you almost think it's point of view, but it's not. It's Martin Campbell, okay? So far we haven't seen Pierce Broson yet. No, so clear. That was Balke-Bartogamous. It was Bronson-Pencho. Stead doubling.

Why couldn't Brosnan do that run? He probably didn't want to go to that location. He's got to be there. You think so? That's crazy. You think he's at that location? Well, don't they shoot him at some point here? No, we're still, still haven't seen him.

Still haven't seen him. Not Pierce Bros. and not Pierce Bros. I feel like this stunt double must have, should have gotten featured actor. Yeah, but why does he do this like prayer moment before he? Well, I mean, just so you, they probably were like trying to figure out the angle. This is a great opening though. We're only nitpicking because.

Look, and then he's got to reach in and get his grappling gun. His upside down grappling gun. Which was the hardest part. This is the thing I most remember about this movie getting made. Or rather the making of the movie documentary that it used to air all the time on HBO when I was a kid or showtime was this sequence. I love how his face is in shadow, but then the flash of the gun gives you quick glimpse of not Pierce Bros. No, that was Brazzing because it was studio. I've decided it's not Pierce Bros.

This always bothered me how the laser is leading the edge. of the It's kind of like Spy Who Love Me Where you get no music And you just hear the sound Of him falling Still haven't seen his face

No and here you go His reveal Appropriately for Matt Goreley Happens in a toilet Yeah I mean this sums it up Martin Campbell of course directed this film

Martin Campbell directed James Bond's Best film Casino Royale And the Green Lantern This is what we're in for How do you feel about it? You're reaching for an imaginary collar. Like, you could cut that whole scene, that whole toilet thing,

and just have the first thing be the next shot where they show his face. Like right here. That's a much better reveal, you're right? He comes around that corner with that gun next to his profile. That would be a great reveal. Yeah, and then have him going there, and then all of a sudden he's in a toilet. If you really need that joke. And you don't.

You sure don't. I know they want to go, like, we're back to lighthearted, forget about Dalton. Are they really trying to get us off of License to Kill's darkness? I guess it's been a while. Yeah, six years? Something like that. That's a lot of years, man. Yeah.

It's a lot of years to go without a Bond. It's the most yet, right? Well, it was the most yet. I think so, yeah. Alec Trevelyan. He gets a better reveal than Bond. Eddard Stark. Boy, I mean, it's just, the payoff is actually diminishing returns.

Somehow it diminishes even the first thing. Look at these two hands. of gents looking down a, looking down a ceiling. Look how good looking Pierce Brosnan is, though. I mean, his hair, everything. You can't argue with that. No. I mean, he was married to the Countess.

Yeah, Liesel von Schloff. She almost became my secondary. Really? Yeah. Just as a tribute to Walter P.P.K. Carrie and Pierce Brosnan. There's Jimmy Fallon. I'd watch a movie based on that guy's life.

Really? Yeah. And Klaus Hurgisheimer from Diamond's different. forever. Well, Klaus Ergus Limer. He, you know, when he's checking for radiation badges, it is really just top-notch, just top-notch security and safety checks. This is, this was Sean Bean's time because he had done like Patriot games, this, uh, Ronan, and he was just kind of this like, uh, sort of like bureaucratic scoundrel or mercenary. What is it about Sean Bean that he never was good guy, Sean Bean.

Until Game of Thrones. Yeah. And then he still does. Same with Lord of Rings. Lord of the Rings. He's always got... Same with Lord of Rings. Lord of Rings.

Lord of the Rings. The dance. What do you think Michael Flatley thinks of this movie? He probably loves the music. Because I imagine Eric Sarah is wearing a headband. Yes. Yeah. I have to say, I think that this movie

looks much better than it sounds. Yeah, definitely. Look how big is it... Who's that guy's name? His hat? The Russian commander? Hang on.

Orlov? Or am I thinking of octopusy? No, no. Isn't it... It's not Orlov? Isn't it Omarov? I don't know. I can tell you, actually.

No, it's Gagorich. Gorgovitch. Grogorovich. General Lola, Katie Grugorovovic. that guy died recently Oh well then I'd like to If you don't mind Dedicate this commentary track to his memory

John Gottfried For the next 14 seconds Okay Do you mean like a moment of silence No no we're just dedicating Because moment of silence Is are great for commentaries Well we wind up with them

Probably about two thirds into the movie When I can't wait to figure out what I was gonna ask you before we started But maybe this is a good time to ask you Matt As we watch Pierce Rosen with an AK-47 And the potential death of Alec Trevelli. What were you going to ask?

What scene of this movie do you think it is that we will both be somehow our eyes of the glued to it? Yeah, it's never what you think. Yeah, I have a guess, and I'm going to say it now. I think it's when they meet outside that burning cave. But see, now I can just make that happen. No, the burning cave, no, the burning cave is world's not enough. Oh, right.

So it won't be that. a while. You're right. Wait, isn't there? There's no Bernice. They mean the statue grapard. Yeah. For all the dead statues.

Yeah. The statuary. Statues that didn't make it. Cemetery statuary. My guess is when Natalia's buying a computer. Yeah, that could really... I feel like that will be. Yeah.

This is a funny. This is a good... This is great. Good sound design. Also, this is the kind of humor you want, not potty humor. This is Roger Moore. this is a Roger board. But at least it's believable.

No, but I like this. Yeah, I do too. That's good too. Martin Campbell's so good. He's just got little beats. Do you think Martin Campbell will ever do another one? He's probably got a good 10 years of directing left for himself before he decides to hang up. Like he does the first one of the next Bond again?

That'd be interesting. I mean, certainly his track record is really good for bonds, so I'd be into that. this is good too. This is a great opening sequence. Yes, and those barrels are so excited. Yeah. To leave that cage. They really are.

Yeah. Yeah. I love all the conveyor belts and ramps and slides. That just fascinates young me. Number one and number two. Door number two. Little snub nose AK-47. I like that, too.

Man, I didn't realize how much of a weapons officiantado, but it was yesterday. when I got home and the Uzi Wikipedia page was still up on my computer that I realized, boy. Oh yeah. Matt loves a good gun. 80s guns especially.

This runway, I gotta tell you, this runway not long enough, even for that plane to be going at full speed. I guess they're probably using the fact that it's going to fly off the edge. Yeah, I guess. It would be off the runway. Good stunts.

It would be off the runway already. I'm just letting you know. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, I forgot about that. I think that guy actually stopped and that guy jumped out of the way. That's what we just saw. He didn't get hit.

No. I do like that he wants to sort of see what he's going to do. Yeah, what is the reason like... Yeah, he really is like, all right, what's this idiot going to do? Now... That's a hell of a shot. That's a hell of a stunt. Oh, my God, it's so good.

I mean, to not be hit by the motorcycle, you've just thrown away. What do you think of this? Well, the fact that he steers himself into the door. Well, I mean, isn't there a James Bond precedent for steering yourself in mid-air? Yeah, certainly. I don't think there's a real life precedent. I mean, I know you can kind of... Well, if you had like a glider suit, sure.

Yeah, a little squirrel suit. Oh, there's... We get the first taste of sombrose. By the way, I don't... What he's doing to that yoke? I just don't understand it. Yeah. He's shaking it vehemently.

Well, I think it's pulling back in a steady motion. He's trying to stabilize it. Oh, is that what's supposedly happening? Look at these. I mean, you can totally tell it's miniature, but I love that about it. You know, so I guess here's the main problem, right? Alec had expected the mind to go off when they originally planned for it. James had set it up to go earlier.

Why was that I'm trying to remember? why did he do it? Well, he thought that Alec was dead. Oh, right. So then he was like, well, I'm going to blow this place up sooner and get out of here. And then I think had he not done that, I don't think Alec would have been a bad guy. Because he wouldn't have been. So mad at the queen.

In country. He wasn't already in Cahoots. Do you realize, by the way, something I was thinking about the other day, Matt, the entire franchise of James Bond has existed under Queen. and Elizabeth. Whoa. So it's on Her Majesty's Secret Service literally for the entire time. That's right. Oh, my God.

So, you know, theoretically, who would, Prince Charles or Henry, Harry, William. Yeah. So it'll be very strange. When you see that picture. On his majesty secret service. But that's what they should do. Absolutely. On his majesty.

Secret Service. Yeah. Oh, and that's when you do the soft reboot of that movie. I like it. Yeah. I'm on board. That is crazy. Like, even Fleming wrote, when did she take the throne?

Well, it was... Post-World War II. Like, Fleming wrote Casino Rao and 52. Was she already on the throne? Oh, I can tell you. Man, that's crazy. She just celebrated her diamond, right? Her diamond centennial.

Jeez. Do you remember when Isabella Shrupos? house was for sale recently? Yes. And you could go see it as an open house. I didn't go, but I looked at the listing. My computer is a real fucking garbage scow right now.

What do you think of these opening titles? I don't mind it, but mostly what I don't mind about it is the singer and the song. I think Golden Eye is a very slightly above average James Bond song because it sort of hits all the notes you want it to hit while also being sung by a very powerful female voice, which I love. I like the Tina Turner of it all. The song itself is real mediocre to me.

I think it's like a lot of YouTube for me. It's just kind of, or late period, you two. It's just kind of serviceable, but doesn't, I never, I'm never called to listen to this one. Jeffrey Kane, Bruce Firestein, story by, and I missed it. I missed the story by. Wait, did Cubby not get a credit on this? No, he must have at the very beginning. Albert R. Brockney presents.

Yeah. Because he did work on this one. Did he, I mean, didn't he kind of just... Well, he sort of handed it over. Yeah. I mean, I think he was still there to boil a pot of spaghetti. I don't remember that. Did it say nine years later?

It sure did, pal. So this was happening, that whole thing happened... Right before living daylights. Wait, no, because when did this go out? 95. 95. So this happened in, yeah, 87. Do you think that's right before or right after living daylights?

They probably mean it to be right after Living Daylight took his next mission. You think so? Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. This music. What kind of cartoon music is this? By the way, an ascot, James. They both have ascots.

Do you think they picked out the ascots together in a previous shopping montage? He said, do you want to go on an ascot drive? I think there was a, um, a holl and oats style. song played to a shopping montage where they're both trying on ascot after ascot. They keep opening, revealing themselves with ascots. She goes, no. And then they finally pick the one. And then he throws one at her face.

And she's like, oh, James, you're incorrigible. This is probably the last James Bond Ascot in the franchise. It has to be. Yeah. Well, for now. We finally found it. We finally found it. Look at, he's having a blast.

And that's just Pierce Brosnan and not James Bond. Oh, wow. Let me just go to the goal. and I'll be going to throw it on for now. I've been spectering for so long. Watch safe. It's got my initials on it. Oh my God.

Dory got it for me for my anniversary. What's your middle name? Mitchell? Paul. It's that, you know, it's that weird anagramming that always confused me as a child. Yeah. I know.

When I, like, once got Amanda pajamas with her initials on it, but it spells Alf. That's what switched it around. Quite frankly. Hilarious. Yeah. Fomke Jansen. just charismatic.

Yeah, she's pretty great. She holds a screen. I'll tell you that much. That Ferrari... We don't see enough of her in the world. You don't think so? I always see her at Lassons.

What's Lasson? I see her at Arawan. What's Aram? The grocery store. Oh. Well, I don't live on this side of town. I don't do my shopping over here. Well, have you thought about changing your shopping habits?

If Fomka Yonson's going there, yeah. This is before they added the quick date change feature. So I've got to go all the way around the horn, Matt. I'm on the fourth on this watch. Matt's tinkering with his watch. You know, it's interesting about this, Matt, is he's wearing in this movie, he's wearing the quartz model, the battery powered model. As opposed to the solid state. It's not until the later, it's to the next movie that he gets the automatic.

This music, like, what does it belong in? I can't not. It belongs in that shopping montage. Yeah. It's too easy to say it's porn music. It's like porn comedy music. So in your mind, Matt, because you don't subscribe to my own theory that James Bond existed for many, many, many years. Do you think that this is a separate Aston Martin that he has a cooling Bollinger bottle in?

He had the radar removed and put that in? Or do you think he has champagne, Aston, when he goes out to his tiny green? He's got champagne Aston, weaponized Aston. Is that what it is? No. None of it is literal. What?

Come on. Every time you get a new bond, all bets are off. Speaking of bets, here we are at the Casino Royal Casino. Where is this? Monaco, I would guess.

I'd like to go here. I guess you can't because we don't know where it is. For a golden high. whewing, ween, wing. You know, I wish that was translated. God, that face, it's ridiculous. Yeah, but the expression he's making,

he needs to do less work. He does. He's already got it going on. Did you ever see the Jackie Chan, Pierce Brousin movie? I never saw it. Oh, the foreigner? Yeah.

I did. I liked it. I'd like to see that. Yeah. Du Huit, Bonk. Nuevy, Suvie, Allanuf. So I played Baccarat. a couple times ago when I was in Vegas. I finally played it.

Thanks to Maurice Lamarche's handy-dandy guide. I managed to play for like 45 minutes and not lose money. That's pretty good. Did someone say bonko? A sufi? Were you ever the bonko?

Sometimes. It was early in the morning, so I just sat down at the Bachar table with a nice guy named Dave, who was the dealer, and I had him teach me. Can you get any more 90s than a woman with a cigar? Yes, a woman with Kurt Cobain.

Cigars were so 90s. Well, I think Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton had a lot to do with that. Yeah, and Schwarzenegger and Bruce Willis. You know, I started smoking cigars in the 90s, man. It's a true story. I think I did one. This actually sits, this monitor sits on my humidor. Oh, wow.

There's a couple of Cubans in there. Hmm. I know my heritage. Yeah. It's funny, when we looked at the, um, You're Cuban personally? Yeah, we looked at the, not we, but when my dad was into ancestry for a long time, genealogy. And, you know, he pulled all these census records from New York and Boston and Florida.

And we discovered hilariously throughout the 1900s into the 1940s, all the Myra men were either painters or, cigar rollers. In Cuba? No, no. In the United States. Wow. Oh. Painters?

Like fine art painters? No, I think house painters. Oh, wow. Blood. Bliad. Enjoy it while it liest. Lest. That is some sweet gold.

That is a very ornate situation over there. Yeah. She must be very tall. She is. Again, I've seen her at the growth. grocery store. That's right. At Albertsons. At Albertsons next to Vons on Ralph's. Mm-hmm.

I'm really laughing at myself a lot today. It's quite annoying. I am bewitched by her. I'm bewitched by the waiter. He really is mugging. Excellent delivery. Yeah, really good. Really good. Especially when you know his little part in that documentary about how nervous he was to do that. Yeah. And finally you just have to do it. That was pretty good. better than Dalton's, that's for sure.

That Eon, everything or nothing documentary is really... It's spectacular. Yeah, it might be time for a rewatch on that. I was mentioning to Matt earlier that I'm watching this like two and a half hour casino royale documentary on YouTube. It's like different parts of a British television series. I don't... You can Google it, I'm sure you'll find it.

But it's pretty good. And we're prepping for our casino royale commentary this weekend. Yeah. Boy, oh boy. It just doesn't stand up with us. No. It's good to be back in season, though. That's right.

And we're banking up for, because Matt's going to be a big daddy. Yep. Oh, I forgot about this guy. French Air Force captain. Yeah, and the fake... Or admiral. Right? I believe it's a fake beard.

We established that. That's right. Yeah. Because your Wigdard extends down, right? Oh, certainly. All the way to Merkins. All the way to Merkins. I mean, mid-digital toe knuckle hair, if you got it.

I was always attracted to both these Celine Dion's. If you showed me the scene and said what movie is, from, I would say, I have no idea. I do not remember this from Golden Eye. I do. I do. Look, he just runs, it seems like he ran across

their playing space. That is bad theater etiquette. Well, you know how he feels about at theater. Yeah. And Bond doesn't drink tea. Fleming hated tea. That's right. He likes coffee black, which is offered to Dalton in living day lights.

Oh, I forgot about His Aston Martin has a fax machine in it. Remember when he gets the pictures from Moneypen? That is right. Yep. Manticore. Yacht Club Marina? Y-C-M, I don't know.

I'm just guessing. The Yacht Club Marina. Oh, man, I forgot about that sob right next to him, a sob 9,000. I always liked a sob. I loved my sob. Just saying it. It was the best car I ever had. Sob.

I had a sob 9,000 CSE with cloth seats that were somehow heated. It was so weird It couldn't have been safe It was good There it is It's not even so much a fax machine As it is a receipt printing machine

Oh there she is Samantha Bond I believe she has a Little one-liner An Alpine Oh my God His last S&Marton had a pioneer Hmm

Oh I forgot How much Moneypenny loves the puns Oh I forgot how much This Moneypenny This I think this money penny Is the most Dladenely swooning for bonds.

Now that's a real beard. But the previous one we think was a reshoot? Yeah, I think he comes and goes with real beards and not. Well, let me look closer at this. Let me get back to you. Matt's going to get to the bottom of this.

Yeah. To the top of this? I don't understand. This guy is just creepy to me. It's not his fault. It's just... The whole situation. I don't know how you act that better.

Especially if you're supposed to... He was hired for his eyes. No, that's a real beard. I'm pretty sure. Now it's a real beard? Yeah. that's um why is he now by the way suddenly speaking perfect english i don't know oh he's Canadian that's why Chuck Farrell

that's why he's Canadian I didn't know that I didn't know that until just now that literally never crossed my brain until until this moment yeah this part of golden eye is a wash for me I never really remember this part I remember this outfit this yachting outfit I will always remember this and I remember when they put when they put Daniel Craig

in this outfit in the game in the Golden Eye remastered game it's delightful because you have to actually shoot through this yacht oh wow his stance to open that screen door

was so wide and yet his gun barrel stance was not I don't know his priorities here out of whack well I think it just takes a little more oomph to open a door look he looks good though that's a good suit It's good hair.

Whole things are working for them. Yeah. Where are all those limos now? Where are all those mid-90s Mercedes limos? Where's that lady's hat? So this, if I remember correctly, how did they do this? Is it a double? Yeah, there's something like that going on.

Like I say, though, I never fully remember what's happening here. I like her when she's dressed a little more, I don't know, evening wear? Yeah, she'll look at it. Did I see Michael G. Wilson back there? No, but that's like, he's like a tough, heavy guy that was in a lot of 80s movies. I love this. I love it.

Even the way he looks around. Yeah. Brosnan really rocked those kind of medium blue, like light royal blue. That's where you put him? That's a real beard. I'm ruling real beard. So now he's on the run. Interesting.

I mean, this is some good, this is some good. bonding. I mean, it's good spy work he's doing right now. Yeah. So this is the scene that gets us quiet. A couple of guys are bored in that front row. One guy literally can't understand what that person's saying, but doesn't want to admit it. Those two guys are so French, it hurts. Oh. I mean, seems like it'd hurt her eardrums, honestly. What kind of happy she is to be involved in violence and espioning? Nice. Please now welcome the pilots.

Francois has a very good figure. I love how they're doing this top secret demonstration of this. What is he going to do? Well, he's going to stop him from stealing it. Oh, man, he's got that of hurt acting even there. Well, I think there, he's playing it less physical and more emotional pain right there. I almost stopped them. I don't know why I have such a...

low tolerance for that i apologize i think it's because you like to play your emotions close to your vest that looks like the lighthouse he jumps out of and the world is not enough or whatever that little towers yeah yeah that uh m was held captive in look at these hotkeys i forgot about this part of the movie yeah i know space weapon control center another great little uh miniature miniature i think foreground miniature i bet right this one was very cool when they fly that those jets into it. Yeah. That's all miniature.

Oh man. The video game just floods back to my head every time I see this. It's really, it's really, really just, it's so viscerally in my brain. The layout of this facility. That's some real sexual workplace harassment there. Why are they speaking English? I don't know. I'm okay with it, I guess. Do you think...

This guy's, I mean, even in Russia, I think he'd be fully disciplined at this point. But Alan Cumming is not that threatening as a person. No, and I normally love him as an actor. He's maybe a little lower than that. I think he's just trying to rise to the level of, of, um, Brosnan. Mm. You know.

Would you consider him a henchman in this? Absolutely. Okay. I mean, he does no killing. He doesn't? Doesn't he not kill anyone? Mm-hmm. Except for the, I mean, he's just a, he's sort of an accomplice.

Hmm. I don't know. But he's like, he's like Ricky Jay in Tomorrow Ever Dies. Yeah. Guys, this is what hacking was like back then. He's got a Star Trek thing on the bottom. The United Federation of Planets logo and the Star Trek Delta on the bottom left. I just noticed that.

Wow. You know, these commentaries are actually interesting because I'm watching different. Because we have to be talking, I'm sort of like paying attention to slightly different things than I would in the movie. Yeah. Much less the dialogue and more so what's happening around them. I'm affixed stated on her mole. Well, I mean. Or a beauty mark.

It's a gorgeous mark, right? Yeah. She's an underrated. Bon girl. Yeah. Did she get taken in her six-person draft? Tune in to find out. I don't think she did.

She did? Oh, right. Well, now if you ruined it, man. Now they know someone took her. Well, it's just a little teaser. Someone took her. It's just a little teaser. Does anyone in that office like him?

No. Does anyone in the world like Boris Grishenko? I feel like Xenia secretly longed for him. What? I just love how Russians, even after the Cold War, Into today, continue to cast themselves as villains by the things they do. I mean, man, the Russians are a bottomless well of villain character types. There it is, the tiger.

If you're Russian out there, why don't you ride in and tell us why you're a villain? What's going on? Why are you doing this? Why are you playing us like that? That thing flew from where to here? Monaco to Siberia? It could have stopped for some refueled. Yeah, they had different outfits on.

Oh, and they got picked up him up, yeah. Okay, that hat is really something. I love it. Looks like some fungus. So was she actually in the Russian military at some point? Is that what we're saying about Xenia? It seems like it. Yeah, I mean, she has a uniform.

Yeah, but that's some kind of special made. She has a special leather uniform. That is certainly tailor-made. She has a perfectly fitting leather uniform. Yeah. I would have never remembered his character's name in a million years. No, even I... Gregorovich.

Couldn't get it. I thought it was Omorov. I thought it was Orlov, but Orlov must be Stephen, uh, what's his name from Octopussy? Octopussy. What is his name? Stephen Burkhov. It's just two and a half hours of us remembering names. Look, that's what I look for.

an equality commentary track. Yeah. You're still working on that watch. I finally got it to the first. That was the problem. It was on the fourth and I had to hand wind it 30 days into the future. Oh, my God. You're the timekeeper. Oh, the golden Ikey.

Do you remember seeing this in the theater? Or did you? I feel like I did. I feel like I must have. I have vivid memories of tomorrow never dies. I saw it twice in the theater. That's the one. I didn't see in the theater.

The one Bond film since Octopozy I missed. Do you think that if... Not this one. If they ever do a screening of it somewhere, I'm dragging you. Tomorrow Never Dies? Yeah, in the theater. We're going to end that streak for you, buddy. You're going to really have to drag me.

No, I'd probably see it. I like watching a Bond movie in the theater. It's really fun. I agree. Because things that you didn't know were jokes become jokes. So, do you think it was in the script that she gets sexual, aroused by killing people? Yes. I do. Oh.

I think that's her, I mean, that obviously is her thing, but I think that was just scripted as such, and her name is Zinia Onatot for a reason. And there's a jewel in the key. No, no, no, no. It's just a big piece of resin plastic. It is? What? Why does it shoot a laser in the room? I held, I've held that. I've held that real prop, the Golden I key. You have?

Yeah. Where, how? At Comic-Con, it was at a booth that was one of the auction houses. Severnaya. Oh, no, it wasn't one of the auction houses. It was James Bond, was at Comic-Con with the 50th, with the big DVD set. They were out there trying to get pre-orders for them. If you pre-ordered it on your phone right there, they would give you a T-shirt, which I still have, which said 00740.

and then it listed all the movies on the back of it. The tour. Yeah. I was in all these cities. Yeah. Except for Tomorrow or Dyes? That's a good idea. We should make a concert tour shirt.

Cities he visits in the movies chronologically through the years. The James Bond. We have to name the tour. Yeah. Something James Bondian. Yeah. The Everywhere and Nowhere Tour. This coffee's hot.

It must be around. So really she just has to fire the gun and not know she's whether or not she's killing anyone. Do you mean to just please herself? Yeah. Yeah. Seems like it. But here's my question. Is that the only way she can please herself?

I had to ventilate someone. Not a phrase. Not a phrase. No, not at all. I mean, there have been a few in the James Bond history that have that way. It's like, there's no, what is the pun you're making? I understand the sentiment. I get your ventilator.

her like you're putting air holes into her or them. You don't know what the gender of that person is at that point. But I just don't understand why you would ever say that. No. And if you're writing this, General Gagorov-Divich or whatever, should go, what? What do you mean you would ventilate someone? That's a funny bit. That should be in a movie. Yeah. I had to ventilate someone. What do you mean? What does it say? Well, I put holes in them so air could get through them. But did you kill the person I want to know about? Yes, I ventilated them No, no, no That's not what I'm asking No You already said that Which means nothing Yeah

Samantha Bonzo A longest hair Yeah Luella Ponza Ponsonby Was written into the movie At first Did you know that?

That's yeah That's Bond's actual secretary Right? Yes Yeah Oh Miss Moneypenny Was not originally

meant to be in this film That's interesting Luella Ponsonby. Do you think she got cast as Ponsonby and then they were like, you're making your money penny now? I wonder. They should have made the girl in the Aston Martin, Loelia Ponsonby, although she's like an insurance person or something.

She was a psychological evaluator. Right, that's right. Tanner! Tanner, oh man. Tanner, whose life falls apart in front of us throughout the next three or four movies. I love it. He just gets more and more disheveled and you can tell

things aren't going well at home for Tanner. Do you think Tanner likes or hates Robinson? Do you think Robinson came in and stole Tanner's thunder? I think he likes him fine, but he doesn't like what a rule stickler he is. I love this Tanner. The evil queen of numbers, and then he closed his eyes. Oh my goodness. Here she is.

This is the moment that sends Tanner on his slide. He goes home and he goes on a bender and his wife leaves him. And it was all that. Oh, I really fucked up at. I cocked it up badly. I need a Pim's cup. Because Tye's not even tied. Oh, Tanner's my favorite, my favorite thing in all the Brazzan movies is the Ark of Tanner.

And the Map Room of Tannis and the Ark of the Covenant. Huh? What? I'll be here. I'll show myself in. Oh, sick burn on the government. Cool shot. Oh no, someone's been ventilated.

Look here, they ventilated someone. I almost got ventilated. Someone didn't even eat their toast. These, uh... This is so 1995. Yeah. Pretty cool, right? Right.

You know... I smell fresh coffee. Someone seems to have been ventilated. I smell a lot of blood like someone has been ventilated all over the place. Also, a woman dressed in very 90s fashion, and, uh... No cold weather climate Also the gold and ice satellite Just went off like a boom boom

Oops Oops Doesn't it even blow up some of the jets or something? I can't remember Well they have to crash They crash because now their electronic systems work anymore That's right Oh the emperor is there

I was just thinking that And now young Turn to the dark side with me You will die A great many things Golden eyes is mine. Rise.

Go over to nine. Good. Good. Oh, poop. Did I do that? Sorry, that was me. I've changed the channel. Oh, so they're playing it off like they got electrocuted, which doesn't make a ton of sense.

No, it sure doesn't. Whoa, they don't even get to eject these guys, huh? Huh. But the helicopter's just fine. Well, it's immunity. It's electromagnetic pulse on a string, on a wire, heading into a miniature. The whole thing's a miniature.

Love it. And it's gorgeous. Look at the way the concrete dust flows. Come on. Derek Meddings, that guy's a national hero of his own country. Oh, that's a cool fire up top. Yeah, that was awesome. Well, they get a load of this back in Moscow.

That's what she should have said to herself. Oh, I'm a Jay Ishkov. She's passed. She was ventilated. So many good people ventilated. So many people ventilated. Everybody being ventilated. Oh, no, mass ventilation.

We are already in Siberia. Why we need so much ventilation? This is the worst mass ventilation since the Tunguska event. Tenghiska event of 19 oh god I can't remember 19 2006 I think of Denechroids saying it he says a year after So now that she's been left alone I would use this opportunity to eat whatever was left in the fridge People's lunches you're never supposed to eat

Have egg sandwich. They won't miss this. Hey there, satellite. Look at her hair. I love it. They must have like combined. Yeah. Sprade her face.

A little glycerin. I mean, honestly, I'd wait till the fire stopped to climb up the hot iron. Yeah. You know. This is very romance theme. Yeah.

Yeah. Of Star Wars kind of thing. Or like Dr. Javago or something. the score for this movie is all over the place yeah yeah what that must have been some of the stuff that was added later the the that we mean me me just that symphonic stuff is robinson's funny they say this no he's not um i think the british have launched exactly one satellite ever really yes no certainly they must have launched more or they just use no because i did remember i remember writing a thing for BBC America

that was this like synopsis of the British space program? It was like they sent a satellite into space in 1982 and then Patrick Stewart got the role of Captain Picard. Thanks. That was enough. Thanks, England.

I'm just now mesmerized by Dame Judy Dench. Yeah. He's really, everything he's saying right now is color with the please forget what I said earlier. Please forget what I said earlier. Could be a woman. That's fine. Probably not. The golden eye. The golden eye.

Who is our golden eye guests when we did the two times through? Don't remember. I don't either. Let me look it up. With the golden. Before Brazzan was cast as James Bond, Liam Nelson, Mel Gibson, Sam Neal, Hugh Grant, and Lambert Wilson were all rumored to be in the running.

Wow. Oh, A.G was one of them, right? It seemed to Golden Eye. I remember Skyfall. Craig Rowan. Oh, Craig and... Oh, that's when we did 1990 high five, right? Yes, agey, though, I think was the episode.

I remember it now because that was the one that, remember, my microphone had a problem, and I had to re-record all of my words for the first 14 minutes of the episode. Oh, that's right. Oh, my God. It's the most work I've ever done in a podcast and the history of podcasts. Wow. I had to literally ADR into a podcast. That was a hell of a thing, yeah.

Look, I just want to say, for the record, I don't think any of her books are real. That's all. I do like this office, so that's pretty cool. It's a nice modern update to Em's office. No. The golden hug. Why would her predecessor have left his cognac? Robert Brown.

Left his coniac? Like parting coniac. I like that. I like the thought of that. It's tradition. I leave the cognac for the next. And did M leave some cognac for Mallory? I hope so.

I should hope so too. Look at my TV. It's behind this wall. You bet you didn't see that coming, did you, James? What were we just talking about that I wanted to look up? Golden Eye? No, but you figured that out. Who the actors were.

Originally casting ideas? No, that was on the trivia. The office, cognac. Whatever. This is a good scene. It's a great. It's a great scene. Should we sometimes do an episode on like the best dialogue scenes like this and the one with Vesper? Like some of the best written scenes.

They all are James Bond getting dressed down. Yeah. That would actually be interesting. It's a hell of a watch. Because this one's really up there. And Skyfall has some really good scenes too. Like the one with Severin I really like in the casino. I really like that one.

That would be a fun episode. I hope I don't forget about that because I'm not writing it down. In a year, somebody set a ICAL reminder. Just send us an email. Or not a year because we'll probably, we'll take a break after this and then come back maybe at the beginning of next year. So that we're in a run during the release of Bond 35, right? Yeah. Yeah.

It's a long coat. Yeah. Do you think they'll do the press release during this run? I hope so. That's what we should save the... Remember when we did a 95-minute podcast about the 10-minute press conference? The excitement for Spector, I got to say, was through the roof. Our first impressions, through the roof.

Our second impressions, through the roof. Our third impressions, accurate. It was the only Bond movie to come out while we were doing the podcast. Yeah. Which is crazy to think about how long we've been doing the podcast and the fact that we've only gotten one bond movie. I know. We started the podcast right after Skyfall. It's crazy. Yeah.

They are really slacking. Yeah. I always forget about this other guy with the real fat goatee. Wait. Ormuff. Thank you. Oh, Edgarorovich Omaroff. I was right.

Wow. Thanks, me. Well done. I want to be honest about what's happening on this table right now. A lot of cut crystal. A lot of decanters. Right. And not one of the decanters seems to have any liquid in it.

Michael G. Wilson. There he is. Michael G. This guy's goate. Is it a wide goatee or a narrow beard? First of all, it's a Van Dyke. Second of all. Is it?

Yeah. His mustache connects to the goatee, correct? That's a Van Dyke. Okay. And it is wide. It is a wide stance. I think of a Van Dyke is having the, like, actual, like, length. Like, what do you mean?

Like, like, a, like, a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, a, like a, a, kind of like a devil's point. No, a van dyke is actually, oh. Is what? Let's see here. This is important that we cover this. Goatee versus Van Dyke. Here we go.

Ready? I think the go, Van Dyke is like the disconnected. this is a goatee really I always had it reversed in the head Man Dyke is like Colonel Sanders named after Anthony Van Dyke or like one of the three musketeers

but a goatees more like you know Kurt Cobain or this guy in this movie Desmond Llewellyn everybody awesome but he missed of course he missed he's Desmond Loellan What?

Crazy to me that the decision is made. We're replacing everybody but Desmond Llewellyn. I mean, I like it. Don't get me wrong. And same with Casino Royale replacing everyone but Judy Dench. So they didn't get the car in time, Matt. What do you mean?

To put all these do-dads and dazzles in it, which is why you don't really see the car actually do anything. Oh. Hmm. Hey, James, poor, Desmond's voice is sort of. of strange in this. I know, and he still has two more movies to do. Yeah.

This is where we first discovered the size of his hands. Yeah. This is a golden eye. This is the standard. This is the standard by which all other hands are measured. Yes. We should call the increment... Look at those things.

You know, we say golden eye minus. It should be golden eye minus seven or three, whatever it is. And it should be, it should be like a four on the Llewellyn scale. The Lowell's guy is good, yeah Could have just told you that But now I'm showing you my x-ray I like how proud he is Here it is

This pen It's fantastic Desmond, would you like us to trim your nails? No need. No need. No need. Good luck. You need a hedge clipper.

Great line. Yep. Great line. Look at those hands. Look at those. those hands. Doesn't he name, I feel like he names all the dummies, whatever he does something with the dummy.

I'm sure he does. See, he's enjoying his stuff. Wow. Is that the only time Q has ever partaken in the humor? It's the only time something he's demonstrated has worked correctly. Yeah, yeah. What do you think of this joke? It looks like a tiny sandwich.

It looks so tiny in his, yeah. It looks like a hot dog. It really does. If we were... I wish we could go back. God, I wish we could go back too. It does look like...

In Brosnan hands, it's over a foot long sub. In Q's a little hot dog. Man, I forget he's in... I mean, shouldn't he be a little cautious about him? Yeah, seven years ago. He was Brad Whitaker. You killed him on a, on Waterloo. What a strange thing.

I don't know why he's so uppity here. Or rather, reverse uppity. Yeah. Well, he's mad at Patton. He's mad at the way things work. Very strange. There's a lot of stereo footsteps in my headphones right now. Yeah, well, I think the sound mixer's had a great time.

Yeah. This is the rose tattoo. Do they explain it where he got it? Yorgie gave it to him. Muffy. This is the scene. What? What is that supposed to mean?

What does that mean? Is Rose? I don't know. What the hell does that mean? What does that mean? Do you know what that means? Does anyone out there know what that means? If so, let me know.

That's right up there with stainless steel delicatessen. Yeah. Up the gazoo. He says... Don't they mean wazoo? I do. I think they do. Because he said gazoo.

The caption said kazoo. Yeah. And what he meant was wazoo. Jimbo. That's what he always call. I really, you know, I like. I like Jack Wade, honestly. But why not just make him

Felix Lider? I know. It seems like this movie was trying to step away if they weren't going to have Money, Penny, and Felix Lider. But they just didn't change him back.

So, look, in the novel by John Gardner, not Fleming, the character of Wade is an avid gardener. I assume they had more and it likely got cut. Whoa, what did you Google?

I googled, hey Bond, do you do any gardening, Jack Wade. Why does he say that? So there's people who've asked the same question on the James Bond. So the novel's probably written off the script and there must have been more. Before reading the book, I thought it was a jab at James like, yeah, I have a flower or a tattoo. Kiss it. But even that's a stretch. I suspect it's a nod to the original character.

Oh, here's your Natalia computer procuring scene. Okay, so here it is. In the novelization of Golden Eye, James worked in a bit of Gardner wrote the book for Golden Eye and he worked in a bit about gardening to give Wade more depth

and build off what the movie offered. There's a stereotype surrounding British men that they enjoy gardening. Wade is a goofy character without a lot of tact so he asked Bond if he did any gardening which yeah interesting.

It's a common stereotype that gardening is a popular hobby among the English. just Wade making small talk based on a on a stereotype about English men. I guess that's true. This is a lot of opinions, but honestly, great question. I'm really happy that we, other people, yeah, were as confused as us, only this time.

Everything except interruption. You aren't safe. Trust no one. Wait, why am I doing that? I'm just reading. I'd let me de small ensk Classic ADR filling in everyone Right

I'm like my work So this didn't exist That line didn't exist Yeah probably In the script I think that was good ADR It was good use Oh he's so uppity

That James one He ain't so stiff-assed I like him I miss Muffy His third wife Not his second or first wife He misses his third wife I understand getting the name

But why would you get a rose Maybe she liked roses Maybe his second wife was named Rose Maybe his Maybe Muffy was Muffy Rose Ruffy Mose Matt we made it through the Scene we thought we were gonna

I thought we were gonna fail out at And we're hurtling now towards The graveyard of statuary Oh that's right So you still have a chance I'm gonna purposely not talk Really bring that home Just to make yourself

right? Yeah. I mean, that seems like cheating. Yeah. This movie get a little slow here. Well, I mean,

it's almost you. But, I mean, it's interesting, right? You want to know what that's going to be like when they come in contact with each other again?

Oh no, Zinia. She ventilated her. Here's the mini driver scene. I love Sikoski. Yeah. I'd be okay with him coming back. I love this line.

This is dumb. you don't like it? Well, just that you can hear a cock of a gun and know what gun it is. He should call what that gun is right there. I think that. Well, Therapin. I really liked that. And now you're taking it away from me.

No, you can have it. No, it's okay. Many driver, ladies and gentlemen. Six months later, she's in Boston doing goodwill hunting. And the AADR on this. What an interesting. And it's before she's famous, so it's not a cameo. Right.

It's a role. Yeah. I really like him. I got to say. I do too. See, he would have said ventilate. Yeah. That's good.

It's a good turn. Many driver does look Russian. Yeah. I wonder if she must. Maybe she is. She's got that jawline of delightful Russian ladies. Well, she's English, but maybe she's got Russian heritage. You got to find out, Matt.

That's what the internet's for. I really love the scene. My, Bond just folded under pressure pretty easily there. No, no. He said the information that would get him not shot in the knee. Yeah. That's not a fold under pressure. That's pretty much of folding pressure.

You really want this. Did you pause it? Oh my God. I can't believe I did that. That felt so Star Trek-y. If you're listening, give yourself a second or two pause. That was probably, what, four seconds? I don't know if it was that long.

That was so dumb. Yeah. That was, that was Star Trek next conversation. You guys pause a lot? We will play clips, but pause and then talk. Right. Just why this needs to get out of my face. God, I fucked that up.

I'm so annoyed. We're close enough. I'm so annoyed. Do I even try to? No, no. No, I shouldn't know. Just let them do. I'd ruin it.

I'd ruin it. Oh, I'm so annoyed. Don't worry about it. Oh, I know. I know. Now you turned off the sound. Well, that's for a... They don't know that.

Oh. Hang on. Hang on. Watch this. Watch this. Did that make it worse or better? It made it worse because we already told them to pause it. They paused for four seconds.

Five seconds? So I made that worse. I'm confused now. Well, I'm about to tell you exactly what's happening if you really care to sink. I'm going to do this for about 10 seconds if you want to get online. Not exactly our finest hour. Still, ruthless people. They get what they deserved.

Drink, drink, drink, drink. Tell him I'm asking about the chopper. You meet me tonight at the Grand Hotel Europe. And then you and I are even, and he owes me one. Precisely. All right. And now we're in the new scene at the Grand Hotel. Yeah.

Thank you all so much. I'm so sorry. Matt, you got baby brain. It's okay. I'm really sad about it, guys. Not the baby brain, but the fact that I did that to everybody. Don't worry about it. We've all been there.

Baby brain, baby brain. I forget about this scene too, that's right. Listen this music. That fretless bass. That's some good bassing right there. I don't know. What is this? Now there's a hi-hat and a jazz guitar.

God, this is some of the worst music. Just in general. I think it is easily the worst. and most dated. The drums are insane right now. Yeah. It sounded like I was playing a different audio clip. Yeah.

Look, it's very 90s. Her mother was a fabric designer. Who was Gina or? Fonker. Oh. Former couture model. Her father is Scottish.

Hmm. Parents never married. Hmm. No news on no news on whether or not she. has Russian heritage. She is beautiful, though, mini-driver.

So is Fomka Janssen. And so is Pierce Prasman. Look at him. Look at him. Act. I mean, he's actually sort of underplaying it versus the last Canadian guy.

Yeah. Oh, certainly. I mean, to go to the Grand Hotel and have that whole bath, that whole pool to yourself. Who is that guy? That was a good fling. Walter P.B.K.

7.65 millimeters. there. Only three people in the world don't know that you use such a weapon. Two of them are die kill. They kill two with my charms. Here we go. By the way, no one knows how old Tomka Jansen is. She could be 54 or 55. People don't know. No birthday on record. She's Dutch. Yeah. I think I asked this last time we did a golden night. Is that the last time we see one of those back-of-the-neck karate chops because it's such a shorthand thing that I don't think is believable anymore. So this is the last movie with an ascot and one of those shortcut knockout moves. It's been, um, this is a movie of a lot of firsts and lasts.

Yeah. Interesting music here. I feel like this is not Eric Serra again. The scoring of this movie is so all over the place to me. Yeah, because they had someone come in. and put an actual score on it. Do you think they knew when they were watching it? That the score would be so dated? I mean, it's a little bit, it's slightly... We're far enough away from the movie now that you would find, you'd think you'd find it charming.

You know? Because, like, you find the disco-y stuff in Living Let Die a little charming. A little. You know what I mean? Yeah. But this was not fully ubiquitous. in the 90s like disco was.

Right. It kind of was like you had Moby scoring Born, right? Wasn't that? Moby? I don't know. We did the Bourne ultimatum. Someone.

Is this the latest villain reveal in a movie? In a Bond movie? It is... I know we've met him. An hour and eight minutes into it. Silva would probably give him a run for his money.

I guess this is really much older character. John Wu turned down the chance to direct it? That's right. Oh, yeah. Interesting. Oh, we did it. I wasn't even trying. The theme song Golden I, okay.

So producers did not collaborate with Bono on the edge. The film score did not incorporate the theme song's melodies, as was the case of previous epit, blah, blah, blah. Ace of bass had also written a proposal. The juvenile. Yep. I have that. The juvenile.

The juvenile. For the Jews. Soundtrack was performed by Eric Sarah. John Barry said that despite an offer by Barbara Broccoli, he turned it down. God, imagine this with a John Barry score. Sarah's score had been criticized by Richard von Bussick in Metro. Wait a minute. Will you quickly Google, what is the movie with Sevastra Stallone, like the specialist or the enforcer or something?

It has a John Barry score, and it's very blonde. and I'm wondering if he was already kind of like toying around with ideas for this. I think, I think that's... I think it's the specialist. I'll look it up. What year is that? If it's after this, I'm almost certain that's what happened. Like, this doesn't, this sounds like my, this sounds like you have audio up from something else.

Yeah. And you're not watching the same movie. Yeah, it's insane. So even when they're trying. It's strange. Let's see. So in the 90s, it was daylight copland. And I don't think, I'll go.

I'll take a look now at the internet movie database. I forgot that this is how they meet each other. Oh, right. That's good. I like how real she's playing it. The specialist he played Ray Quick in 1994. Oh. Which was before this.

Interesting, though. I wonder if it times out, like, when in 1994 did this come out? Like, if he knew he wasn't going to be working on this and he had already had some ideas or something. It could sound so Bondy that score. John Barry. If you want, like, an unheard John Barry Bond score up, maybe even, like, second tier, listen to the specialist. I haven't seen the specialist since it came out. It's rough.

But it's highly rated. It's got a 5.5. Oh, that's not out of 5. You know, smart way of them to get rid of the helicopter is to blow it up with its own missiles. Yeah? I don't hate that part of the plan. I agree. Has a helicopter ejector seat ever been done?

Yeah. No, I'm thinking of Die Hard 2. That's an airplane. Because, like, to... Because it shot the, it was cool, it shot the propellers off. Yeah. Which would just send projectiles going, who knows where. But it's not a real thing, right?

I don't think so. Now I'll look it up. Helicopter ejector. The K-Mov K-A-50 has an ejector seat, which is essentially the tiger. And does it do that? Yes. Oh, wow. That's cool.

Before the rocket ejection seat deploys, the rotor blades are bled. blown away by explosive charges in the rotor disc and the canopy is jettisoned. Wow. You better hope those things disconnect. She's wearing the same outfit for this whole movie. Well, look, she's trapped, you know, and then she's on the run. She wants to make contact. I have a graphic artifact on our screen, man.

Yeah, what is that? This part of Golden Eye, I do find myself wanting to watch because it seems fresher to me like I haven't seen it. I saw this in the theater. I know you did. And I remember being... In 1995. Kind of like, oh, yeah, okay.

That was pretty good. That was, yeah. Is that what you did? You're like, I missed... Did you miss Dalton? Yeah, I just felt like, yeah, I don't know what it was. I don't think I thought it was bad.

I thought it was good. And then somehow missed tomorrow never dies. And then by the time I saw World is not enough in the theater, I left thinking, like, I think I'm done for now with Bond, and that's when I took a Bond vacation until, like, 2005. Those were, that was dark times. Yeah. For us in the world.

Like, I think the world was a little, uh, little grayer with you not, you and Bond having a falling out. But I did ask for and receive Die Another Day on DVD for Christmas, like in 2000, I don't know, four. Three? Whenever it came out. Yeah. Man, that movie. I can't believe Taryn likes that movie. I could I see I must have seen it in the theater I saw it many times I said you the didn't they send you my movie tickets I somehow found wow I saw it like at least four times I can't believe that thing's 2003 maybe it's 2002 2000 but still came on the winter of two so still it just seems it seemed further away or closer it seems like for what the movie is it should have been 10 years earlier 1992

Or something like that, yeah. His beard... He does a good job of coloring his beard and his hair. Well, it's grown since the last scene. Well, this is later in the movie. Yeah, okay. You stop acting against each other. You're like, boys with acting.

He's... Now, James Bond is delighted. Never saw it coming that we'd be watching this scene. Yeah. What's this one? Platinum Eye. That's what he should have said. Bronze eye.

I've seen this gun before. Only three people I know use it. Two of them were killed by Zikovsky. I love it. He's really... I love it, James just puts it back in his life. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

You're no match for James Bond and a fist. This is a pretty good sequence. Oh, it's great because he gets to find... Like, this, um... They really... Chekhov's gun these, uh, these gadgets in this movie. Yeah. The gun play in this movie is pretty good.

I like a guy with a submachine gun and a suit. You know, I find machine gun battles to be not that entertaining. Oh, really? I love them. Because I just don't, I never buy that they're never going to hit. You get more squips for your dog. Yeah, no, definitely. This is good, though, because we get to a grappling hook here.

No, not the archives. Oh, no. We'll never be able to get in. There's another door. Oh, yeah, the tank chase. Yeah. Pretty good. You're not used to seeing tanks go fast in movies.

That's what was so good about this. Yeah. Yeah, because you're always like, the sort of the suspense is usually built up by the tank rolling slowly in. Yeah, right, crushing someone. Martin Campbell's little details, the way he just focused in on that guy with the licking his wounds. Yeah. So we just got a little tease of the Monty Norman theme. Yeah, this is someone came in. They had someone. If the whole movie had this, the whole movie had David Arnold. I wouldn't be opposed to a little bit of George Lucasing with some of these movies. Like if David Arnold would to do a new score for this movie, how great would that be?

For like the 30th anniversary or 20th anniversary? I'd be very happy with that. 30th anniversary, David Arnold's score for Golden Eye. That would be amazing. It's so... I mean, who cares if they're going to make an enemy out of Eric, Sarah? It's not like they need them back. More appropriate for a ride on an elevator than a ride on a roller coaster. Yeah.

Oh, God, I would love that. Failed completely in his attempt to tie Golden Eye to the franchise's past. Oh, that's an episode we should do. Top 10 moments that you get to special edition. John Altman provided the music for the Tank Chalken. chase. What do you think about that? An episode we do top 10

I mean, you know what I'm going to do. I don't want to know. Not until the episode. Let me just, here's a, just a quick preview. Yeah. Everyone will step over Java's tail. In every scene. That's so good.

Thank God even, even though they did a little bit of music replacement, this was the place. Came in here and did this. I love that his name is John Altman. too, like the alternative man. Yeah. This is a great chase. This sounds like a Cine ORL music. Somebody set an ICAL reminder for us to do a special edition episode.

Maybe we would do that with Phil Nobiel. That's so good. Right through there. She's like charmed by this. Yeah. I don't know why Pushkin wouldn't, not Pushkin. I don't know why Oromaroff wouldn't just kill her. Like, what does he need?

He doesn't want the only witness alive. Yeah. But, you know, I'd be here for a long time if I was discussing all the time. Someone in a James Bond movie should have just killed someone. Yeah. Bond, mostly. Those guys are chilly in that water. I guarantee it, man.

Yeah. There's a real cold. He's almost got a knick-knack, like, pronunciation of things. Use Bamba! This is for! Use Bapar! Tabasco! Film premiered on 13th of November,

1995 at Radio City Music Hall. Oh, American premiere. Rosden boycotted the French premiere to support Greenpeace's protest against the French nuclear testing program. Wow. Huh.

Just the utter destruction... This is like a... Oh, I could still see the wire on one of those cars. This is like more cars getting destroyed. than a fast and furious. Yeah. Can't wait until you watch that, Matt.

I know. Should we just pencil in Indiana Jonesing or Star Warsing for after we wrap this up? Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Maybe we should save Indiana Jonesing for next year because that's when the movie comes out. The new... Yeah, sure, they'll come out. I don't think it's happening. You don't think so?

I think this one's pretty soundly underway. I don't know. And I forget. We do just the nine Star Wars films of the Skywalker saga. Yeah. Not. No, no, we do all of them. Even everything that's happening.

We hit Rogue One, we hit... I guess there's only two of those. Solo, which I haven't even seen yet. I liked Solo. Oh, my God, so much Heineken. If only they were a sponsor. Yeah. Why he gets the James Bond theme for having a horse on top now is beyond me, but I'm accepting of it.

I'm accepting of it. This is Gilding the Lily. it's already amazing enough he's driving a tank through the tank no but like it's used in the chase like appropriately so it gets caught in the overhang the building to building thing of a jiggie like you're in a minnesota you're in downtown minnesota or something i by the way i just want to say for the record i love like downtown minnesota and like in toronto where they have those connecting the buildings so you don't have to go outside in the subterranean oh yeah like the sub zero temperatures tie Boom. He's good.

That's all you need. Makes more sense there than in an underwater scene. Yeah, it sure does. I love how he's so, he plays frazzled so well. Yeah, he's good. He's a good counter to Sean Bean's composed coldness, you know? Right. Sean Bean's not in this movie that much.

Not a ton, no, but that train, by the way, guys, if you see that train coming for you. Yeah. Please don't try to just be. across the tracks. You're not gonna. Oh my God. I forgot that he watched. I forgot that he watched that he watched that from the tank and then drives away.

Like he's like he's being, what is the word? Lestrid. Like he's being discreet. Do you think the front of this train is supposed to kind of look like a scary face? Yeah, I think so. I think it's probably most, it's probably designed in a design contest by a Russian general's child. design the scariest train you can.

Oh, God. It's not just the fact that I'm once again starving while we do this, but I want to be on this train eating this nice meal. Do you want to, I could order us some food, and it would be here by the time we finished. Don't worry about that. This is how much more time we got on this? We got it 43 minutes.

Yeah, I could literally order us a couple turkey sandwiches or something from a nearby place. Would you like to do that? I'll do it. Yeah. you guys are going to get to go through on our food journey with us it's going to be great if you're at home right now get your phone and order some food with us yeah matt's going to go order the food and i'm going to talk about just the lovely piping on those chairs oh my god it's like a fine cord piping you've got a beautiful ornate damasked wallpaper almost the same pattern as the burn scars on shone

Bean's face, compliment the simple, elegant beauty mark of Isabella Sharupo's fine cheekbones and aquiline nose, while the tank poises itself to pounce. Poises itself to pounce. And Matt's back just in time for me to go pee. He's going to go pee. What was he wearing? What watch was he wearing? Did anyone see? I guess I could look that up. Alec Trevelyan He's James Bond's old friend That is a song about him

Hope you like It too I mean as mean as the train looks It is pretty cool Now don't do what James Bond did here Where he drove a tank onto the tracks He's going to fire that, right? By the way, I like how no one has followed him

with the tank. They've just let him go through the city streets to the, I mean, what do you call this? To the rural area of the train tracks? She is just in explosion after explosion in the same sweater. It's really something.

Now, everyone gets up differently. I like it. Everyone has their own Way of coming out of that explosion Matt You missed it Boy oh boy James Bond very nearly successful here Yeah could have saved 40 minutes of film

Right he could have yeah Film is expensive Oh but if he killed him He wouldn't know where she was Mm-hmm Oh now he could Matt Choose your sandwich

Okay I love that turkey club That's what I ordered Where is this place Oh about the bread Is near by? No trouble? No travel.

Is that what you were going for? Yeah. Thank you. You, sir, are welcome. His scarface, I mean, it does look like he was taken to a burn unit immediately following the explosion and was allowed time to heal. Oh, it's got a foldable stock on the back, Matt. that that that AK something. Is the 47 after the year?

Yeah, the name in the year, Alexander Kalishnikov 47, or automatic Kalashnikov 47. Dealers' choice. She means something to you and you're lying, James. Oh, I forgot that that's how quickly Omerov is dispensed, Oramov rather, dispensed. Yeah, it's a little less than you want for him, right? Yes.

Matt, are you a secret vegetarian? No, but I'm... You're a bean and cheese man a lot. Yeah. No, I love meat. I've just recently been having a lot of it, so I've been trying to... I have high cholesterol. What caused your lot of meat?

Your recent meat scabades. Well, Amanda and I do this thing called Daytonacht. Would you like a... Would you like a chip? Uh, yeah, uh, Hawaiian barbecue. Oh, you too? You don't have to whisper that. Amanda and I do a thing called Dayton knocked, where if one of us says it,

you have five minutes to get dressed up like a dress and a suit and we leave for a date. And if you say no, you lose one of your date and knocks for the year. So, and this is, does it happen at random? It happens whenever one person invokes it. it. Now, let me ask, is the date knocked like you will plan something for her? No. Or is it, or is it more like a, you know what, let's just get out of here. Yeah, it can be however you want. And it can also be used selfishly if like you've been wanting to go to a restaurant, the other person's not excited about. You can invoke a date and knocked and they have to go. That is. We haven't done that, but usually it's just

let's get out tonight. And you'd be surprised how well you can get dressed in five minutes. Like, I'll put a belt through the loop and let it hang there and a tie over. And it. And it's, my shoulders, but... Yeah. And we both leave every time going, we should get ready this way all the time, because you don't second guess yourself. You just go for something nice.

It's kind of adorable. But we don't always go to a nice place. Like, you just have to dress nice, and you might go to just like some Italian joint or whatever, you know? Like a Bucca de Beppo. Yeah, Applebees. Olive Garden, usually. Oh, look at them.

Pulling those server boards out. I... Anyway, where you had a little... A lot of, we went to a steakhouse and had a lot of meat. That sounds great. Where was the, what steakhouse was? Taylor's Steakhouse and Lock and Yon. Never been.

I've heard so many good things about this. Yeah, the downtown one is the classic one. I've never been to the downtown one. We've been wanting to go there, but. That was a very fiery explosion. Yes, it was. I realize we're not talking about the film anymore. It's one of those train cars was full of gasoline.

It was the gas car, not run. See, this is where she fell in love with him. Yeah. this is where by the way also her makeup is perfect but she's in the same outfit she's been in for five movie days yeah her hair looks weird it looks like a strange wig even though i don't think it is oh maybe it is no i don't think that's a wig you know like your effort to not get close to me i'm disarming that yeah give that a try on man oh i'd love it i don't know that i've ever tried on a rolex it's an omega come on omega oh mega sorry rolex i don't know I don't know anything about these. Oh, that's nice. That's a good looking watch on you.

It's got heft. It does, yeah. I like the weight. We could take a couple of links out. If you wanted to borrow it for like seven months, you could, you're welcome to it. Do that. It literally just sits over here. I think you should, I think you should like experience it for a bit.

Yeah, you're a righty, right? That's correct. Yeah, although my inclin, I've always worn a watch on my right hand doctor style. Is that what doctors do? Yeah, like this. This is how I like to wear a watch. Because it's actually less work. But it's good, though, when you have a watch like that on,

because the top of it looks like a bracelet. Yeah, which I feel weird wearing a bracelet. I'm not much of a jewelry guy. That's your medic alert. Please don't give him meat. Please don't give him meat. High cholesterol. She finally got to change her outfit.

You know what? I've talked about this, I believe, on the podcast when referencing this episode. But one of my most vivid memories of the marketing campaign around this movie was the BMW commercials and the barrister trying to defend BMW against James Bond driving his BMW on the wrong side of the road. What? Yeah. It's a commercial.

James Bond driving his BMW and then no one reacts. And then he says, on the wrong side of the road. And everyone was, that's right. Banyan trees. So is another kind of like, is that a gardening thing? I believe that is a gardening tree. Gardening tree. gardening tree

Pierce Brosnan I believe pulls off a tan summer suit better than any bond we've had that's true

I don't know if it's his complexion I don't know if it's his predilection towards Malibu where the man lives I think it's because he has really dark hair

and when you kind of have brown hair it all kinds of looks a little too beigey and it is the darkest yeah of the bunch yeah

and he and Dalton and Laysenby I guess and Connery. So it's not? What are we saying? Well, he does seem to have like midnight black hair. I love Wade. She's the only Bond girl with that haircut. The kind of 90s, Anniston. Well, it's a little shorter, right? It's like a 90s Bob. It's the 90s version of the Bob. Yeah. You know what? That worked. I would buy that Wade would say the word bombing around, meaning what he is going to be doing.

Yeah, but that is another expression that doesn't mean anything. Bombing around in it? I think that, I've heard that. You have? Yeah. I have never heard that. Well, I mean, it's a phrase that's been around for over 20 years now that this movies existed.

Yeah, that's right. So it started it. Oh, this is Pensive Beach moments with James Bond. Yeah. I remember something being really disturbing here. Is it a crotch shot or something? Maybe it's his linen suit. I do like that, though.

I mean, the linen shirt there. This is making me excited for summer. This feels like golden eye. Yeah. I mean, less rocky shore of Jamaica. I just remember that being a strangely inappropriate shot or something here. I can't. It's funny how I have that feeling.

It's this. It's this. Oh, that is. She just approaches him. Weirdly his POV. Yeah. That is his POV though. I wonder if that shot started a long way back and they cut into it there.

Maybe. Why are they so sad? sad. I think he's sad about his best friend, Alec Trevelyan. Oh, yeah. There you go. And she is sad about Boris no longer working with her. Yeah. Your guns, you're killing your death for a lot. Yeah, it's what we do. I'm, I'm spy hero. I don't understand why you don't get this. I'm a computer woman. I don't know how spy hero. I love it. this music can't be uh that's you know that's the moment too i would have chosen to force kisser oh what did we call it what did amanda yeah i call it they call it um what was it because force

kissing sounds like something a jedi i would do yes like a kailer renan yeah and ray yeah what was it uh it triggered someone too yeah well then maybe we shouldn't remember that it was if that's the case. But you should text Amanda just so I want to know real bad. Yeah. Well, we've talked about this too, but Brosnan and Connery are definitely the hairiest. It is, it is, it makes me feel okay, you know? Because that's what I look like with my shirt off, man.

You got that much hair. Same figure. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Yeah. I have virtually no chest hair. I know that's why you tune it in to find out. Our baby, according to the other.

ultrasound already has a full head of hair. Really? Oh my God. So, I'm hoping he comes out quaffed like James Bond. The quartz. Is this the watch that he's got on right there? Yeah. Oh, my God. It's actually the better version of it.

It's the one he wears in the next three movies. And also, Daniel Craig wears that watch. Same watch in Royale. Oh, my God. Well, I was going to say I wouldn't take you up on the offer to borrow it because I just didn't feel right, but now I feel like it. You should. Yeah. It's really excited.

Please. I've had that. That's the watch I've had the longest. I bought that when I was in college. I'll take good care of it. Please do. Get it, get it. You should get a couple of links taken.

How do you do that? Do you have to go to someone? Well, actually, I have tools here. I can do it. Oh my God. This is thrilling. Guys, Matt Gourley is going to be roaming around town. I've never.

With an Omega C master. Yeah. Just like James Bond wears in, four films. Which ones? It's this through Casino Royale. I've never owned a nice watch. Now I want you to experience it, and I want you to love it.

And I want to welcome you to the watch Officiado Club. Wow. We meet every Thursday. And this thing will just tell you the time? Every second of the day. The beauty of that watch, by the way. Oh, you should know.

You have to, if you take it off, It has like a 40, two-hour power reserve if it's fully wound. But you got to shake it otherwise? Yeah. Okay. So if you take it off for like a day, it's fine. But if you take it off for two days, you should just shake it up. Wow.

I forgot about this. I haven't known the time for years. I forgot about the brace position he gets into, FAA regulated brace position that he gets her into. Yeah. And now we're on the sound. We've crashed essentially into a sound stage. Absolutely. through on the water into the soundstage and now we're here that's some very hurt acting right

there but he is hurt he's that's dazed acting i haven't seen him do much dazed acting well i do do love it when bond gets in like a safari vest yes we could get daniel craig back in one he had a vest inspector right in the snow yeah actually it was a full sweater that looked like a je that looked like a vest and it was separated as such oh okay It was a Tom Ford sweater that was $800. I mean, what happened there? What happened there? Did he pass out from tiredness or just concussed?

Yeah. This turns into a Vietnam flashback. They don't even plug his eyebrows. I love it. For such a pretty boy, you think he'd be a little bit more groomed. I like that he isn't. Yeah, me too. You know, it gives them, those are some blue eyes.

What am I looking at? The sky or Pierce Prasman's eyes? Yeah, the only thing brighter, Daniel Craig's. That's true. Daniel Craig does have, well, he's more icy. Yeah.

He is, he is acting like he's in a sitcom right now. I know. I mean... She's dressed like, um, Zod's woman in Superman too. Yes. Yes.

This is an early dark Phoenix costume. Yeah. I think I might go as General Zod from, you know, the 80s Superman. We had Jonah in a full Zod outfit slash, goatee and hair. We did it all for the nerdist TV show

that we used to do for BBC America. And he was very funny. Because we did this whole, we did this whole TEDCock parody called Zod Talks. It was a super conference of, it was a conference of supervillains, all taking a different like aspect of, uh,

of what it's like to be a super villain. We had, we had Cobra Commander, Darth Vader, Bain, Zod. It was a good time. I,

I would have done Goldfinger had I thought about it. Oh, that would have been good. This is a pretty good death. It's a great death because it is the laws of physics, which you can't argue with. No, he can't. Does he have a one-liner here? Yeah.

Okay, yeah. But do you don't want to do, she's up a tree? Mm-hmm. Timber. No. She made like a tree and died. She got ventilated. She made like a tree and died.

is better, yeah. She made like a tree in the left. Life. I do like Boris's look, though. The Hawaiian shirt glasses hacking? Well, just the glasses and hair. This is so, it's so funny how actively set like all the greenery looks. I know, I know, but I do love that, I'm always impressed in the modern movies, how they can still manage to fit in, either something that's like a layer or a appearing geographic structure of some kind like this. Even the specter layer was cool because you don't, I don't really expect that to happen in the Bond movies anymore. Oh, yeah.

And Skyfall, they kind of cleverly worked it in as his home, even quantum. Great organization. Again, I'll say it again. Subsumed by right aid. But. But, you know, they're mint chocolate chip. Yeah. The quantum.

Quantium. Oh, Matt. Sherry Garcia. Let's get out of here. Design our Bond theme parks again and put in the quantum ice cream. Oh, God. Yeah. Mr. White, vanilla and Dominate Green Mint.

Where do you put Mr. White in the categories that we had for the draft? Like villain or henchmen? Villain or ally. Whoa. he's kind of all three. Yes. That's an arc. Yeah.

No kidding. Wow. Also good father. He's both all three and not any one really. I mean, the closest one I'd say is henchmen, but not really because he's calling the shots. Yeah. And yet he's never the main villain. And yet even when he's an ally, it's only to save his daughter.

He's not really trying to help bond. Yeah, that's interesting. But there is like this weird mutual, not weird, but there is like this weird mutual respect that they have in that movie, which I really enjoyed. Yeah, I'm actually kind of looking forward to watching Spector again. I feel like we just did it. Why does it feel like we just did it? Did we do it for this run?

Or was it the previous run? Well, not this run, the previous run, but maybe we did it toward the end. We did it with Dory, I believe. Yeah, Dory and Amanda. Why do we choose Spector? Not Quantum. Oh, we did Quantum with Maria and Amanda. We did the first Wives Club edition.

Who did we do Skyfall with? Skyfall. Who do we do Skyfall with? Steve Agee was the first one. You looking it up? Yeah. Oh, Paul. Of Paul in Storms.

That's right. Our theme song Originator. That's right. This looks like a quiet genius, Paul Seaborne. This is a great stop. I want a super. cut of people sliding at the end like in total recall. So just and so they would never stop, right? You just intercut between all of them. They'd all be constantly sliding. Is there anything else like this? Well,

there's also him sliding on the Millennium Dome, but I'd also take him sliding. I also take him in a cello case. Yeah. What other movies have two people, a man and a woman just sliding down things interminably? You know what? In the next movie, him and Michelle Yo jumped down that Elliott Carver banner. Yeah. Oh no, they're going to put it up over London Look at the earth It's like... That's not the earth That's a glowing ball of water

I know, what is that? That's like a bowling ball They couldn't get the rights to any country The Broadcasting God's of the Clinton Look at this set, interesting So in the game, Golden Eyde, This is mostly where you're at, right?

This place No, not mostly. You do, you do, well, actually there's a couple of levels in this one, but you started at the dam you get into this facility. That's right. I just remember most of my playing took place in this for some reason. 1953 was the coronation of Queen Elizabeth,

which was what I was looking up earlier that I forgot. So Casino Real was written in 52, I believe. Maybe it came out in 53. Will you look it up? Yes, I will. Okay. He of course wrote it right before he got married, bemoaning the fact that he was going to have to get married.

This is like total recall, too, when he comes out. He came out on the hologram. 13th of April 53. Oh, wow. And when was she coronated? Coronation was the second of June, 53. Oh, so technically, he got right in under the Empire. He got right in during the patriarchy.

Who was it, George? The King's speech. Yeah. It was Colin Firth. Edward, George, who was that? That was George the 6th. Okay. Wow, so interesting.

But none of the movies. Hmm. I wonder if she'll probably get one more in her. She's probably got one more Bond movie in her, right? At least. I hope so. Yeah. Misha, weapon armed.

My name is Misha. I love the clicking of the pen that's already, like, set up. Yeah. Still Universal Exports, huh? Then his stun guys went on. That's this watch. Oh, my God. Let me look.

Compare. Whoa. Wait a minute. It's working the same way. Oh, you... You know what? Yeah, you totally turn that mine off. Oh, no.

There you go. Here you know that. There's a sawblade in this. I just caught a shark bullet. Don't forget, there's also a laser. There's a grappling hook. It's got a lot of uses. Yeah.

Omega beautiful. So this can go in water safely, I'm assuming. Yeah. make sure you have the helium valve closed which is that valve right there seriously what do you mean that's got to be closed it's a diving watch okay so you press it or no no just make sure it's twist closed and then you can do whatever you want with that thing but why would you ever open it i would not go in a hot tub

if you're diving at a big at a at a deep enough depth you open that valve so that the helium can escape because otherwise the way helium helium will leave faster than oxygen. So it'll, if, if a watch, a diving watch doesn't have a valve for that, they will, the air will try to escape out the, out the crystal and it will burst the front of the watch open. How does it have helium in it? Well, just, it just does, just by nature of the atmosphere having helium. Oh, oh my God. So even that little amount escaping the watch would push the crystal out. Wow. Okay. So just as long as your crown is closed and your, that valve's closed, you can do anything you want with it. I wouldn't take it in a hot tub. Okay.

but otherwise swimming and showering, I do the same thing. That's very exciting. Anyway, we're back from Watchtok. Watchtok. This has been Watchtok. Now we're in Golden Island again. Now his scar seems to be a little bit better. It's healed. Yeah. It's very different than it was in the previous scene.

Been using a ton of Alavara. Oh, back hands. I think Boris is actually happy to see her. Yeah. And she's, he's hoping she'll also be happy to see him. Right. You're so mean. That's what he's thinking.

Click, click. I love the editing of this. I love this whole suspense thing. Look, he's just a little kid. You little baby. You little guy. And now his scar is insane again. Must be the light.

Access to the fire. He sounds like Dracula in the Coppola movie. Like, why don't you? grobeard I have crossed oceans of time to be with you an architect

you know I would have thought when he signed on with this syndicate he would have gotten new glasses like they would have given a new frame a new frame a new frame

hi it's a great look it's a great look I love that this is turn about is fair play if we don't get these codes we'll have to wait for the next orbit he's one hand typing too that can't be efficient it's just a nervous tick of his i actually think we shouldn't be talking here five six okay is that gasoline or water it fell in what is that it was he there were a hole shot in

the tanks remember that the mine was next to the mine you turned off with your watch that's right that's that's a that's a good line yeah yeah there's some decent writing some good gems in here also some very confusing points of yeah of who what do you want to know the just who the writers and did they write any jeffrey kane and bruce firestein with uh two uncredited uh writers working on it michael france and kevin wade Wade Wade I'd like to wrap my own dialogue if you don't mind I want to go bombing around in car and I do a lot of gardening, and I got a third wife named Fluffy. You know what Bruce Firestein wrote.

What? A book called Real Men Don't Eat Kish. No. Seriously? Yes. Yes. What? Yes.

Oh my God. It all comes together. Full circle. Wait, have we talked about that before? That sounds vaguely familiar. I know we've discussed it. I know we've talked about the Kish book and View to a Kill and everything, but had we connected that before?

That's crazy. He says he's an American screenwriter, but I'm also not seeing like things that he's written. Yeah. Is he on IMDB? Firestein worked uncredited on screenplays for a ton of people. Yeah, me too. I also did that. Yeah, right.

Look at that earth. It's an earth unlike any other. Neptune. I am so confused by the existence of Bruce Firestein. So he wrote a T. movie and then a bunch of video games wow I wonder how he got the job

he also wrote Golden Eye and Tamara never dies and the world is not enough he has credit on oh interesting so strange but I wonder if the video game credit or just by virtue of him having written golden eye

yeah I also wonder you know when they have more than one screenwriter who's really writing the plot and who's writing the dialogue and yeah because the plot is so often dictating by the producers going, we want to do a story about this. Which is fine. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know. Especially tomorrow never dies. It's so interesting. I think James Bond particularly is the franchise most clearly has all those, whose fault is this? Yeah. Or whose idea was this? Why is this good?

Why isn't this good? There's so many people involved, you don't know who to blame or credit. I, you know, I think Michael G. is a safe bet for every I am pulling the blame off Purvis and Wade lately I'm not I'm still not ready to do that because I was watching this documentary too and they wanted to do Casino Real early on

I mean they wanted to do it with Brosnan right yeah yeah are they just they're just interested in doing it but they couldn't really think of a way to make it work for Brosnan well after the fact right I mean it's just like he's already been Bond for three movies yeah but you know casino royale novel wise is not

he's not he's not a recent double o is he because it starts off it starts off with him at the casino sort of detailing sort of his daily routine yeah I forget I don't think he's fresh on the three times I can't remember

I don't think he's fresh on the MI6 bandwagon in that movie which makes it like I mean we just think of it as an origin story just by virtue of the fact that they redid it as an origin story. I think it is? I can't remember. I guess I'll look at up.

This is a hell of a fight. It's a great fight. This is really good. Sort of pre-born identity, not really seeing what's happening. Hmm. You don't say that. You don't say that to James Bond. That's just not something you say to James Bond.

Ha ha. Oh, Brodnan. Just when you had me, you let me go. Sean Bean does not need to go out there. He could just shoot him. He didn't want to bring the gun with him. It's not an origin story. The casino right now.

Okay. Just so we know. I mean, according to the synopsies, I just was looking at. This is a very good set piece. Yeah. It's so small. Can he make it? Oh, no.

His feet are going to come on down, and hit your fingers. He's so bloody. Do you like my soul? We have the same bootmaker, James. This is straight out of Empire Strikes Back. Yeah, except he's not going to get rescued by any millennial falcon. That's right.

I call it a millennial falcon. It is the minute that Daisy Ridley got a hold of it. Hi-o! Silver! Away! Come back. That's a terrible gunship, because I really don't see that many gunship. on it. No. Well, there's one. How she got there, I don't know. Oh, I forgot about this goodbye. I mean, if you're going to fall to your death, that leg broke so hard. Yeah. Speaking of Star Wars. I know. Oh, yeah. Not only does, he gets stabbed through the heart with the giant satellite thing, right?

Yeah, it goes on to be like Zucker Brothers level overkill. he would have had to jump the whole span of the rotor blades yeah it's really that's the least believable jump in movie history I could name a few others I don't know that one's pretty yeah insane yeah because it's not like he's jumping like he's got like a path down oh you missed it that's all right it went right in his mouth I remember it oh I always forget that we're in for you get the boris no the um What is the song at the end? Like expression of love or whatever or sensation of love. What is it called?

It'll come up. It'll happen. Here you get another henchman after the villain death. Oh, this is horrible. That was, I believe that was at a planet Hollywood. I should hope so. The frozen experience of love? I think that's what it is.

The experience of love. Experience of love is the title. Oh man. This song, that's coming right up. And you get your classic James Bond, CIA, too late,

too little too late. Yo Jimbo by Kurosawa? Tobacco plants. Now with the new layer we've noticed. What a weird little thread. You didn't see those helicopters. You didn't see or hear the helicopters six feet from your face. That is a trope in movies that I absolutely hate.

But just because coming into camera means the other person can't see it. So many different things. What a smile. I hope that was the last shot of the movie. What a billion dollar smile. Like we did it. I'm James Bond. That's in his smile.

The experience of love. So this is definitely not Eric Serra music. How are they going to transition? Hard cut? Yeah. Oh, it just goes into the tribal whistle and drum beats of the experience of love by Eric Sarah 1995. Oh, this is one of the worst songs. Well, how did this happen?

How did he get the gig? What did he know? Did he have something on the broccoli? Was he dating Barbara at the time? The lyrics are so trite, too. All the memory of Derek Meddings. Just the singing, too, everything. So they were like, oh, he works with Luke Bissan.

He must be good. I guess. Guys, what is he most recently done? Well, the answer to that is, of course, composed music for the 2008 Las Vegas, Chris Angel, Cirque de Soleil Show, Chris Angel belief. Oh, my God. I don't mean this insensitably, but he sounds deaf. Not just tone deaf, but like...

It's very strange. What a, like, what a... weird decision. Model floor supervisors, Mark Meddings, Digby Milner. Breathing in the scent of love. This is like the first Bond movie too where there's a lot

of credits at the end. Sensing life and everything under the sky. At least it's not life and everything. Sensing life and everything. Man. This is the worst Bond song. This is worse than die another day.

Yeah, but I don't count it because it's not at the top. Right. Brioni for Pierce Brosons's tailored clothing. The experience of love won't take all the pain away. Just understanding for the first time. But he is just understanding that? There's no way to know, Matt. It will take understanding away.

What you will fill inside. Love is in your life, Matt. Love is, I don't know, honestly, if I could not love something as much as this song. There's just parentheses vocalizing. the experience of love. And Rupert Hine, that's right. Didn't Rupert Hine, I'm thinking of Rupert Holmes? Performed by Mini Driver.

Wait, Rupert Hine, didn't he write, Escape the Pena Colada song? Or is that Rupert Holmes? What's the kid from Harry Potter? He's a Rupert, too. Rupert Grimes. But Rupert Hine, oh, he did better off dead,

which I actually, that's a good, that's a good, that's good music in that. Is he escape Pena Collada? What am I thinking of? No. I've never heard Escape Pena Coletta. Sure you have. If you like Pena Colada.

Oh, escape parenthetical. I'm sorry. Yeah. Not Escape the Pena Collada. Uber at Holmes. Yeah. Yeah. We had that song on our show and we had like eight, no, eight to 13 music cues of it on Goldbergs.

And it costs so much money to do. do. I'll bet. That's a heavily reverence song. Um, that was a golden eye. Yeah. Pierce Brosnan's foray into the franchise. How did that hold up for you? Well, yeah, not so much for you? Well, I wouldn't say it's any worse, but I'll tell you what I liked about it. The new layer of Wade. Yeah. The new gardening layer that we got. It'd be nice to get some of those deleted scenes to see how much gardening he really talks about. Yeah, I mean, the question makes so much more sense. now. Yeah.

Tobacco plants. Yeah. Banyan trees. Yeah. Muffy. It's all there. Well, we'll be back with, well, actually next week is very exciting. It'll be the Bond draft.

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