James Bonding - Bonus: Live and Let Die Commentary

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Matt and Matt talk you through Roger Moore’s first outing as Bond in a feature-length commentary of Live and Let Die. Will you live and let love it? Yes, it’s in the cards. Hosted on Acast. See ac...ast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Matt and Matt and James Bonding podcast. Hi everybody, welcome to James Bonding. I'm Matt. I'm Matt of the goarly variety. And I am Matt of the Myra variety. If you opened up a pack of playing cards and it was full of Myras, you'd be like, no, I wanted a goarly. I don't think so. I do.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I don't think so. Oh, come on. Your super egos. You'd have many more costumes, I think, in your playing cards. You'd have... Trading cards, not black cards. Yeah. Well, it's good to be here with you today on this rainy February morning.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Oh, it's a rainy morning, and I hope wherever you are, you're comfortable and ready to cozy yourself into a comfortable armchair. Oh, yeah. Maybe like a tall leather armchair. Spend a couple hours with us and our favorite film franchise. And witness the first foray into James Bond by what Matt and I have officially decided is the patron bond of the James Bonding podcast. Roger Moore. That's right. Maybe Daniel Craig's my favorite bond. Maybe Sean Connerys, yours. But for this
Starting point is 00:01:06 podcast, we can all admit, Roger Moore has the vibe of the James Bonding brand. I think, let's just really think about who has given us the most laughs, the most joy while recording podcasts. Absolutely. Now, this film, of course, is special for me. It came out the year I was born. This film and I are exactly 45 years old, which is also the age of Roger Moore in this film. Whoa. Come on. This is a MC Escher's sketch
Starting point is 00:01:37 of coincidences. Yeah. I just love this man. I love this film. It's the first film I ever bought on DVD, first Bond film I ever... Actually, maybe the first DVD
Starting point is 00:01:47 I think I ever bought. It is. The first DVD you ever bought, period. Living and I'd die. And I bought it for my girlfriend who said she wanted it, but I think she was being kind
Starting point is 00:01:56 and it was more of a selfish gift for myself. I'm admitting that here, and I'm not proud of it. I got this movie on DVD probably in the year 2000. I was working at Blockbuster at the time. And that's where I purchased nearly every James Bond movie that was out on DVD. They were very expensive at the time.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Yeah, but they were also... Some of the best DVDs at the time. They were packed. They had so many features, but a lot of them were brought over, ported over from their Laserdisc versions. You know what they didn't have, the Matt and Matt film feature length commentary, which we're about to get into now. In a world of streaming,
Starting point is 00:02:32 where I'm now purchasing a lot of my movies on Amazon or a Google Play situation so I can watch them streaming them from my television, the thing I miss most is audio commentary. That's right, and we're going to tell you how to set it up right now. Yeah. You queue up, Leo the Lion in the MGM logo.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Cue them up. Just get them going. Let him roar once so he gets it out. I'm going to show you guys all how to do this by playing the roar for you. And by now you've probably done this twice already. and then pause. Right after that one.
Starting point is 00:03:04 So that's all you need to do, everybody. Just pause it right where I just paused it. And we're going to count you in and we're going to play it. And we're going to enjoy an audio commentary of Roger Moore in Live and Let Die, a movie that includes Paul McCartney, George Martin, and a balloon made of a person. A human death balloon. All right. We're going to hit play.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I'm going to go three, two, one. Play. Okay, everybody, that's the count in. And we're going to watch this. Settle in, brew a cup of tea or make a cappuccino in a machine that M is confused by. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for live and let die. Three, two, one. Play.
Starting point is 00:03:53 All right. Okay. This is the United Artists logo that gives me. So a familiar feeling. When I hear this music, I know this gun barrel music is coming. And I just, oh, you already know it's George Martin right out of the gate because it's just slightly different. Same notes, just slightly different arrangement. I'll tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It's a heavier emphasis, I think, on a multiple horn section. Yeah. Do you see, I never noticed Roger Moore's gun barrel. He really braces his arm, his shooting arm. Like from above. Well, you want to fire straight, Matt. You can't. When your first foray into James Bond is walking on screen on that gun barrel, you want to be sure to shoot straight.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yep. Because if the blood doesn't come down, you're right. No one's going to believe you. Clearly a helicopter shot into New York and not only a helicopter shot, but one in turbulent wind. Should we go shoot that again, Cubby? Nah, don't need it. Don't need it. Don't need it.
Starting point is 00:04:59 You can tell right away that Ken Adam is missing, I think. that this is a good-looking United Nations, but there's something... Are you saying that this would not look so real if it was Ken Adam? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. But there's just something... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:15 There's an heightened elegance of Ken Adam that... I like Peter Lamont, but he did this, right? I can't remember. I believe so. Again, lover's not experts. That's right. Now, here we go. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Now, he has unplugged the headphones of the United Kingdom. Yeah. Also, this guy's comb over is like a half comb over aided by his headphone band. Okay, here we go. A T&T detonator that is Sonic. It's so stupid, it's brilliant. How would you personally react to a sonic death? I think we just saw it.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So you've been very high marks on that death. Matt, we're in New Orleans, Louisiana. Have you ever been? yeah. I've never, I've never journeyed that way. Oh, really? I'd like to very much. I've been before I really think I should have dug into live and let die and gone to this corner, so I don't think I've been to this corner. Unless it's, is this right on Bourbon Street? Because I've been to Bourbon Street, so maybe I have been. It looks very tourist area. All the things you love about, uh, you know, New Orleans lore seem to be encompassed in this. This is very much to me, I'm thinking of, uh, JFK.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah, that's right. I love the casting of this guy because you don't think for a second he's a murderer. He's just a little academic-looking man. He's a man paying his respects to a casket death machine that defies all laws of physics and reason. If you can figure out how this is done, besides the fact that they stopped the camera,
Starting point is 00:06:50 write in. I already know. I've said this. He's had a heavy diet of steak and kale, so his iron content is super high, and there's electromagnets in this coffee. and that pick him up. So they have to activate the electromagnets, which would already be super hot.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Maybe they're just already turned on before they started walking. I don't know. But just can you see him? He's already starting to lift. And if you can't see it, then you're wrong. No. He's been sweeped up by an automatic,
Starting point is 00:07:13 like one of those roll top desks, you know? A roll top desk situation? How does it go under? But a roll bottom desk that is shaped like a dustpan would be. A little angular thing. They could just scoop him in, like a snowplow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That collects him up against the side. There's something about this movie that makes the deliberate choice. to like go, to tell its audience, like it doesn't matter how we did this, you're in for a different type of bond here. In this bond, things like this happen, even though they couldn't really. Even though they couldn't really. No. Look, I love a, uh, uh, New Orleans big band funeral situation happening. Yeah. I don't see any band members. They must have been at the front. They were at the front. Yeah. Here we are in the Caribbean. Now, this is poor Baines. We learned that, uh, Bond rather liked Baines.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Beautiful San Monique. Fictional? Place? I forget. I'm going to go ahead and say, most definitely. Yeah. Also, the most watery blood ever. Look, I mean, that's not even blood.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh, you're saying that's blood? I thought that was some sort of watered down grape juice. Like a blessed wine. Like, in this world? Like a blessed wine. Come on, it's voodoo. It's a bowl of blood. It's got to be.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Of course, the snake, comically colored snake, which I suppose is one of those snakes that is very poisonous because it's bright colored and it's supposed to go, don't go near this snake. It's so poisonous that you don't even have to be bitten by it. You just have to be gently tapped by it. Look, Matt, we established this a long time ago, but that man died of fright. Baines, poor Baines are rather like Bains. More Baines. Right into death. Here we go. One of the greatest songs. Also, I really love these titles, these visually, these titles are so good. noticed the snake on her hand before. Oh, I didn't either until just now. It's wrapped around her arm.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And that's the tongue is on the, on the trigger finger. Oh, I didn't even notice that. This I love. Her head's on fire. Her eyes go wide, right with the music, music, right into a flaming skull. I mean, you don't get more rock and roll. Look, I just wish they had sort of tried to match up the framing of the skull in the woman's head. They did all right. They did not. Okay. Jane Seymour guys Introduced To the
Starting point is 00:09:32 International scene By this movie Right At this point She's only medical student Flynn It's Quinn Quinn
Starting point is 00:09:42 God damn it man Don't you know your CBS Saturday night drama Sorry Was that a Saturday night show? I feel like it was Saturday or Friday Look at that burning It's like laced with gunpowder
Starting point is 00:09:56 Oh of it. This is back-to-back James Bond films in the United States. We had Vegas with diamonds or forever. It's actually back to back to back because man with the golden gun then comes the year after this. What part of that's in the United States? Oh, sorry, I thought you meant they came out a year after. Wait, what? Never mind. Oh, I'm talking location, Matt. Oh, you're right. Yeah, so. Las Vegas and Louisiana and New York in this one. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. Now, I've gone ahead and at one point, I think I sent it to you, but I was busy, not being busy. And I went into Google Maps to track down these corners in Harlem. Uh-huh. And I found them. Some of them don't look that different from the corners that Roger Moore is on. Huh. I was fascinated by my waste of time.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Don't the Clintons have an office in Harlem? I wonder where that is in relation to this. I feel like, I mean, look, it's a sweeping overpricing of living space that's now above 108th Street. Like, it's just crazy how Manhattan is. I was just in Manhattan less than 12 hours ago. How was it? World win.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It was... How long were you there? 20 hours, in and out for work. I love it. Oh, there she is. is. That's what I do. Look at the length of those eyelashes. I'm going to go ahead and just get out on a limb here and say, all natural eyelashes. I'm not even sure Roger Moore's are. See, Roger Moore is a bond we're like, we don't mind showing his face at first. No. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Oh, the technology. Also, look at this lemon chiffon yellow sheet and pillowcase set he's got. I love it. I would say yellow is the color of the 70s. Yeah, brown. and rust and yellow. Definitely the warm earth tones. Roger Moore is a hairless individual. I love a sunken living room. I do too. And look, he's got a yellow robe to match. I'm very confused. So are we saying at this point that he has moved out of his flat from Dr. No? Yeah. And moved into what is presumably a townhouse of sorts.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Yeah. What time is it, do they say? if we get real quiet it's because we're engrossed well sometimes we need to listen to bernard lee when he's on screen right so he's gone with a green comforter spread yeah i forgot that he shared the same bootmaker with baines boy if ever you're close with someone it's sharing the same bootmaker
Starting point is 00:12:52 you shoot your foot secrets or really something i suppose i technically share the same bootmaker with Daniel Craig. That's true because you just have the same boots. Many of the same. And Sean Connery because you have his shoes from Never Say Never Again. I do indeed. Also, this kitchen is so cool, but it also looks like it could be in a trailer.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Like a trailer park. Oh, I see what you're saying. I thought you were saying that this kitchen looked so good that it could be the trailer for this movie. That too. That too. You've seen him out in locations. Now see him in his kitchen. James Bond is back, and he's keesier than ever.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I love a copper top hood. Yeah, that's nice. That's a very slim fridge, but I buy it, because I don't think he's home enough to really put stuff in there. Yeah. It still cracks me up that he has those rooster bunt cake molds. Who didn't have those? Did you have them in your home?
Starting point is 00:13:51 I did growing up. Maybe we had them on our wall. Yeah, but the fact that Bond has them is so funny. Money penny Boy If you You couldn't ask for a Better Wing woman
Starting point is 00:14:07 No she somehow plays Bros before Ho's I think James would do the same for her Yeah I think so too J.B Look at that I gotta get that exact robe
Starting point is 00:14:21 Oh it's gonna show you Look at that So I do by the way Like that M was upset That James Bond was potentially actually getting a watch repaired by Q. Expensing his watch.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Expensing his watch repaired to Q. Look, on a Rolex like that, if you're getting it out for repair, Matt, you're looking at least, I mean, in current times, if you're going to set it back to the Rolex people, $700, $700? To repair it? Yeah. How much to put in a highly powered electromagnetic? Now, magnet.
Starting point is 00:15:09 See, now, that's precedent. It's after the fact president for the coffin. Now you're saying that. The casket. The casket worked much like his watch. Definitely. And he ate enough kale and steak to be magnetic. It's a good thing that M didn't have much steak and kale.
Starting point is 00:15:24 What if in this scene that man's body flew through the window? Uh-huh. Drawn to the magnet on his watch. And at the end. That would be a nice clue. Yeah. What's this? Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Chavello. That is the most adorable hair. James Bond is ever had at any moment. You'll never see it shorter than that on Roger Moore, in anything, except for maybe the saint. It is. It is. It is. Look. Ms. Caruso with the powder blue. I got to say, he's already smoother than both previous James Bond's. Yeah. Connery's got a rough smoothness about him. I know that doesn't make sense. Blazenby's just a little hapless. He's more of a bulldozer. But Roger Moore. Shear magnetism. Out of the gate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Out of the gate, Roger Moore is telling us who he is. Yeah. This is interesting, too. We rarely get this kind of, I don't know, like superimposed sort of thing in a Bond film, this kind of, you know, dissolve. It's interesting. This is very smart storytelling. And I do visually think it's really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:40 The way that you have the tarot cards and you're, rather than a red dot and a travel line, like in an Indiana Jones feature. Yeah. is this this is a mankowitz right yes yeah and he's i think he started experimenting a bit this air this um terminal yeah uh i think it might be done now they have turned it into a hotel really in the middle of j f k the old pan am t w a tournament wow hmm okay so look we're talking about a man who is wearing an over Overcoat that is just perfect. Roger Moore's never looked better than in this exact costume and look, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:28 What do you think? I don't think he ever gets better looking in these films. Fashion-wise? Yeah, I mean, even his casual tactical bond look is really good in this movie with that turtleneck. Right. Yep. And his casual tactical climbing look and you only are, for your eyes,
Starting point is 00:17:48 eyes only is pretty good, but I still think this takes it. So we go from Jack Lord and... Seaslinder. Seaslinder to now the only man to reprise it before Jeffrey Wright. Yeah. Whose name I forget. David Hedison. David Hedison is now...
Starting point is 00:18:08 Which is really just a very British way to say Harrison. David Hedison. Hedison. Hedison. The Hedison man will pass? The Hedison man will pass. Neil! Okay, look at this Cadillac. I just watch that.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I need a make on a PimpMobile is what comes out of this scene. God. But just that this has a little crosshairs thing. Well, Matt, how else are you going to aim your rearview mirror darts? And this would be illegal now, not because it murders people, but because it's, you know, distracted driving. You shouldn't have a screen. No. You should be paying attention to the road.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah, don't text and drive. If there's any chance that man, uh, wow. This poor guy Just probably low-level CIA He's really just a driver for the CIA Look, I got to say, as a frequenter of The McDonough funeral home in Lowell, Massachusetts where I worked for four and a half years
Starting point is 00:19:02 You saw a lot of people come in with car darts to their head I don't see a world where you die And your foot presses down on the pedal Yeah, that's true Unless there's a special nerve agent gas in there That is directed at the spinal column that controls the right foot. Yeah, could be.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Must have been. I mean, it must have been. They got the magnetic technology. There's no reason they can't do this. The technology in this movie is far beyond any capability since seen. Yeah, wait till you see the guy inflate with a shark bullet. I'm assuming this is everybody's first time watching this. This, uh...
Starting point is 00:19:40 I never noticed that ramp on the steps before. Oh, did it ruin it for you? No. Is this now your least favorite movie? No, that's my favorite. today. I gotta say, I really like the new format of commentaries, man. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:19:56 The usual goon squad. The usual goons. Look how good they all look. What is that? Well, it's obviously a pimped art, don't you know? Yeah. The way... Roger Moore.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Out of the gate, we know exactly who he is. Yeah. This is a... All right, this Felix performance. I like this guy. I don't know what it is. Pimp Mobile. Pimp Mobile. Like Pimp Mride.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yep. Pimp Mobile. Man, you give me 70s audio recording hardware and I'm yours forever. Did you have a reel to reel as a kid? No. No. I thought maybe... I had lots of audio cassette.
Starting point is 00:20:46 recorders but not any real to reel. I have one now. You have a real to real now? Yeah, you do. Yeah. That's pretty. We should get you some real to reel tapes for that. I know. It came with some and I don't, I've never played them. I should. Oh, that's got to be. I want, like the audio Zuprooters. I bought a Zoom from Guitar Center in Hollywood and it had a, it had three people trying to do a podcast. I'm not kidding. What was the podcast? It was these girls. I forget what the show was. Jill bonding. They're like, they're comedians. And I tweeted at them. Because I listened to it and I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:25 Guitar Center sold me this Zoom is new, but it had a memory card in it that had this podcast pilot on it from these girls. Oh my God. And they, I think they do do a pod. I forget, it was so many years ago, but. Oh, that's funny. It was really interesting. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:38 The discovery of audio you're never meant to hear is always interesting to me. Yeah. I wish I had some of the old cassettes I'd, did as a kid. Yeah, me too. That was the impetus for super ego for me. Yeah. I mean, I used to do, I had a, my favorite one was a Fisher Price one that had a little microphone attached to it. Oh yeah. That you could go like, and I would always go, that's, that was my thing. That's your thing. That was how I would, that was my welcome to my show. It's the Matt show.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Okay. Okay. I love this lady. I think that, I think I have a tie just like the tie that Roger Moore has in this. That's good. That's a good find. I got to get me a double-breasted fitted overcoat like that, not the one Whisper's wearing. Whisper has a single-breasted sport jacket. Yeah. For anyone wondering, anyone keeping score on what Whisper is wearing this scene.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He takes that stuff snake without even looking at it. I think that that is interesting, that that is the same exact type of snake. Is that like a kind of voodoo? Is there a voodoo snake, you know, like that's something... Well, maybe there's a spell that they can put on that stuffed snake to become a real snake that could scare... Or vice versa. People you share bootmakers with. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Maybe it's also like a native Caribbean snake or something. A genative? Genative. He's not in the pitmobile. Look at that car. That's right. San Monique is not a real place, right? Jane Seymour.
Starting point is 00:23:21 What a beautiful... beautiful human being. Yeah. What a, what a specimen of, like, because you look at all the James Bonds and none of them are like, that is a beautiful person. Brosnan's pretty beautiful. And Roger Moore is very handsome, too. But like Jane Seymour is like, yeah, yeah, she's.
Starting point is 00:23:42 If we were to pick, you know, a group of 30 women to potentially go on to a moon raker shuttle. she would be included absolutely yeah and honestly I might send Rosie too
Starting point is 00:24:01 interesting hmm yeah well I don't know Rosie can't be trusted so true so true but I'm really just looking
Starting point is 00:24:13 for their genetic attributes Matt not for their personality or are you saying that their personality is less environmental and more that she was genetic genetically a traitor? Genetically. Genetically.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Genetically a double agent. Mm-mm. I mean, Solitaire is technically a double agent, too, just the other way. 65th Street. That bank is still there, by the way. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yep. Oh, there's the whole camera crew in the reflection of the car. That happens a lot in James Bond. He is this guy. When you're talking favorite James Bond allies. Yeah, I like this guy a lot.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I wish he would come back. Now? whatever. I'll take whatever I can get. I wonder if he's still alive. Let me check on that. Hey, Jim. Do. Did he call that car a jukebox? I believe he did.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Do you think that that's a derogatory term for cars that he doesn't like? I don't know. You know how you call, like, some cars are, like, a shit box. Yeah. Look at those other lights. He calls them jukeboxes. I can't get any. I am juby. Yes, you can. No, it's not internet. It's the IMDB app.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's the worst. Well, don't use the internet. Okay, I won't. Movie database app. Do you know what's Matt, every time I have to say this, this is a fault of my own. I think a personal fault. I, every time I'm, I'm at an airport or a hotel and I see a shoe shine booth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I think to myself, that guy looks bored. or gal, I'd like to give them some business and tip them. And I look down and I'm wearing sneakers. It really bums me. Have you ever had your shoes shined? I don't believe I have. I don't think I have. I don't.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Also, this is still of the era. As far as James Bond movies go, it's still using the Bond music for traveling sequences. When does that change? It become like an action thing. I don't know. I feel like... Is it licensed to kill?
Starting point is 00:26:38 when he's skiing on the water, there's got to be something more. I mean, it's almost, it's hardly in Daniel Craig's movies. Yeah. Which I don't understand. It's like if you're making a James Bond movie, use what you have. Right. Yeah, they barely, I mean, it's used so well in Casino Royale because it's held back. It's not used in Quantum, right?
Starting point is 00:27:00 It's used in Skyfall when he gets the Aston Martin. Is it used in Spector? Yes. I feel like Spector was their attempt to sort of make good with us. When was it used in Spector? I don't know. We've seen it 40 times and I can't remember. I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You know, it's going to feel great, man. What? Is when we see Quarrel Jr. Oh, that's right. That's right. Because even though this is the third in your series, it's the second one we're recording. So we just watched Dr. No last week. But it should always feel good to anyone when they see Quarle.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. A quarrel. A quarrel. We should get Quarle the third in one of the Craig movies. I would be so on board with any of that. Yeah, me too, because it wouldn't mean anything to the casual moviegoer, but it'd be a nice little nugget for the fans. It's like when they bury stuff in Marvel movies.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Yeah, like that's good fan service. Yeah, something that doesn't take away from any plot whatsoever. Yeah. You don't have to take any time to do it, and it rewards us. Yeah. Right. Do you know what I don't love about Mr. Big? What's that?
Starting point is 00:28:21 His gray skin. How ridiculous his voice sounds. His accent. Yeah. Like, and I wonder if that's an acting choice. It is. It's got to be. Yafikoto's a very serious actor.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Look at this prop gun that they made just a bend. How do you think they did that? Is it just aluminum? I think they cut the top. They cut the barrel of the gun. and put on a, like tin or pewter? I love it.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I just love it. I love, too, how, with such panache, he disposes of this gun. Well, he doesn't even, he doesn't even blink at it. He's so goddamn confident here.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It's ridiculous. This is as ridiculous as the shark pellet. No fear in him whatsoever. That is, that's the thing, right? Daniel Craig is the only bond that ever really shows fear.
Starting point is 00:29:17 fear. He's afraid? When is he afraid to you? In Casino Royale where his balls are going to get ripped, you can tell he's, like he hears Vesper scream and he kind of does a startle. Once that happens, yeah. I guess Laysenbe has a little fear. There's a moment. What is it? I forget. Now, what do you think of the line names is for Tombstones, baby? Do you think it was, do you think Manga was scripted that and was like, that was where he was like, I'm done with this scene. I've done good work. I'm going to bed.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Maybe. Names is for Tombstones, baby. Do you think that's a saying, or he made it up to sound like a saying? Oh, I think he made it up to sound like a saying. It's a pretty good saying. It never really resonated with me at first, but when you think about it. Names is for tombstones, baby. It's like, it is a weird comment as to say, like, names aren't worth anything else.
Starting point is 00:30:11 It doesn't. I shan't be long. Like, the way that Roger Moore is sort of casually bonding. Yeah. I think they really should have thought about the fact that it says 007 on their tarot cards. Yeah, I mean, that's telling. Every step of the way so far, it feels like James Bond is behind the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Ahead of the game? Behind it. I think at every turn, he's being outflanked. You know, you're either ahead of the game. Oh, okay. I thought you meant he was in control. No, out of control. I see.
Starting point is 00:30:47 But he seems like he is in control. But he's not in control. Look at this. Everywhere he turns. Look at that. He's just making head. with what he finds. He's like Jackie Chan making weapons out of environment. See? See? You think he's ahead of the game again. Even though this is a good guy. It's just,
Starting point is 00:31:03 no, he's not. Which has to be very frustrating for him. That I like quite a bit, just the handing over of the badge. What's his name? I missed it. We can't go back. Do you think they came up with that as actors or Guy Hamilton came up with that? The flap of the... Yeah. You know, it's a very smart move, director-wise, to just get rid of just the shoe leather that would take to show him. I feel like this actor's like, I think I'm just going to come up and slap it in his hand. He's smooth. Yeah. What is this guy?
Starting point is 00:31:48 I want to know what else. They're both smooth. I wish, look him up. Do you have the internet? Yes, of course. Let's see what else this guy's done. He's really good. I'll genuine Felix Lita.
Starting point is 00:32:19 This is Lon. Stanton. He, uh, born in 1929. Is he still alive? He is still alive. Let's get him in bond 25. He, uh, last, last thing he worked on was an animated series. He was the police chief. And that was in 1994, man. Oh, what are some, like, the biggest movies he's been in? Well, after live and let die, he did a guest spot on space 1999. Nice. Quiller, the TV series. And of course, he's in revenge of the Pink Panther. Oh!
Starting point is 00:33:03 1978. Oh, yeah. Look at Jeffrey Holder. Now, of course, Baron Samadie. Samadie. is actually credited as barren semide. There's no actor. It's just the real magical person
Starting point is 00:33:27 that may or may not be dead at the end of the movie. He was, no one was there on set when they shot these scenes and then when they developed the film, that entity was just in it. He appeared. There was no scene. They were just getting B-roll of the village. That's right.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah. What is, what purpose does that? I don't know, but the guy has no expression on his face and he's doing this so strange spider walking. I think he's just like, what am I doing here? What am I doing here? I went to college for this. I just love the Jeffrey Holder's like just kind of whispering talking, saying just gibberish under his breath. Maybe he was tipping the fact that whisper is part of his conglomerate.
Starting point is 00:34:21 He's actually called mumbles. Now let's talk about 1963 fancy bathrooms. 73. Sorry, 73. That is absolutely correct. The bedspread here, leather shammie holster is back. So you know it's the same guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Chartreuse bedspread. Shammie holster. Wow, she brought a lot of clothes. He smells it like it wasn't laundered before she hung it. Right. Unless he was like, I wonder what scent she used. Ah, yes, Tide. I always forget about this.
Starting point is 00:34:56 What is he doing here? He's checking for bugs. No, but this little, uh, communication he sends. Little hairbrush? Remember, he sends a little, now he checks for bugs, but a little bit, he sends a little, he pulls an antenna out of one of these things and sends a little
Starting point is 00:35:11 Morse code message or a light message, I forget. Not this. We'll see it shortly. Matt, what are your thoughts on a decorative fruit bowl? I am 100% in for decorative fruit bowl. I think we have a decorative fruit bowl in the kitchen. Do you find that you're, well, you know, it's hard to say, Because your house, I have to say, your house is, like, your house is great.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's, you don't have too much shit. It's like, you have decorative things, but they make sense. But it also doesn't look like it's a house that is staged to be sold. Oh, that's like a home. Very nice of you to say, because I think you see it when it's usually in its cleanest form. Because when we have people come over, we both rally to tidy. What I love about my wife and I is that you have not seen this house clean. Well, I like that.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I have to say I like that too because it feels like a home. Yeah. Ours is a home too, but it can sometimes be a little, you know. So I think that was just Morse code for, I think he was sending this back to MI6 asking if she was single. But why does he send it out the window? Well, you want to get a better reception. Have you ever, like, tried listening to walkie-talkie for a not through a window? How far is it going?
Starting point is 00:36:31 God, he got in that back quick. We are three snakes deep into this film. This is peak James Bond for me. You've got Roger Moore in a bath. That's all I need. And I don't mean that sexually. I mean, maybe I don't know what I mean, but I'm just saying like, that is prime. Oh, you think he's going to see it in my mirror, but he's shaving.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Prime, I don't know, style. More in a bath. You know, after the straight razor blade shave scene in Skyfall, I heard straight razors they took a 500% jump in sales yeah seriously yes wow but I wonder if this did anything for it may have yeah I bet it did I bet it did it was like a big they were like I'll tell you what I have a bathtub caddy I do Amanda got up for for Christmas it's great I just think like dads like our dads for instance probably saw this movie and we're like you know what I do need a bathtub caddy.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah. And a like razor like that. That was probably still very modern. A bick? Yeah. Oh, that was probably like a fancy metal. Oh, I forgot he smokes cigars. Yeah, I need a bathtub caddy with a shaving mirror, though.
Starting point is 00:37:47 That's nice. Let me tell you, Matt. This is a little tip for anyone listening out there who might have a problem where they want to shave, but sometimes the bathroom mirror fogs up. Yeah. I bought this mirror that. that suction cups to the wall. Real quick, why is this not a green and yellow snake?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Sorry, go on. You'd want some snake consistency. That's the problem, right? Well, it's because it has to move. It has to be a real snake. Also, there's the problem of, this is not a snake that is going to frighten someone. We need him to actually be poisoned to death because James Bond has no fear.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah. Sorry, what were you saying? The quick death of that snake is amazing. Yeah, they also definitely killed that snake. Yeah, it's a bummer. So I bought this bathroom mirror that has a reservoir in it that you fill with the hot water from the shower while you're showering and it no longer fogs because it's the same temperature as the air. I'll be damned. Wow. It's quite frankly a great thing. Oh no. Is chamois holster's empty?
Starting point is 00:38:48 Here we go. And three, two, one, man in a wig. Boy, I really hope you all synced that up at home. I know. If you're out of phase. This is why next time you really need to get into microsecond phasing with us because the comedy relies on it. Timing is everything. Yeah. Wait, why did he decide?
Starting point is 00:39:20 Wait, I'm very confused by that situation. He knew that the, that the, he knew the bug was in the third, the second button. Uh-huh. and left it? I guess he left it so that they don't know that he knows. But why did he... I'm not that good at a spy. And now he wants to have this conversation?
Starting point is 00:39:42 Like, it's like... Well, I guess he wasn't going to have. I guess he knows now that they know that he's here because a snake came. Yeah, that's true. So look at that robe. I never noticed that robe before. It's purple? Do you think that is a hotel issue robe or it is a James Bond packed at robe?
Starting point is 00:39:56 I think it's a James Bond travel robe. Where he wears his monogram thing at home. That is amazing. That's like... For you to think that he's going to pack that robe is crazy to me. Oh, I certainly think so. That's like his... That's like a Joker robe.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Look at that. I'd never notice that thing before. It's got... What does it have on it? I probably spoke about it on every time we've done this film on the podcast. I just don't remember. I don't think we've ever talked about it, actually. I don't think so either.
Starting point is 00:40:29 A mongoose. This is... Oh, Roger Moore, you old devil. Roger Moore delivering. with confidence of a joke 10 times funnier. Canangar. What's that other room back there? It's another bedroom.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah, I guess. Oh, you know, it is joining suites. Oh. Because that's got a mirror thing of a jiggie, too, for Whisper to walk into and leave a champagne on. How do you think the conversation with Felix went, sending Rosie out? Listen, gal.
Starting point is 00:41:12 He's going to try to get real handsy with you, see. Well, what do you mean? Well, let me show you. Wait, no, Felix. No, I got a little Bond in me. I think he doesn't even see her. I think he just on the radio. He calls her up and goes, Rosie, listen, you're going to see James.
Starting point is 00:41:27 He's going to try to put his dick in you. Don't worry about it. He does it to everyone. This is a little mini. Just try your best. You want to get a tiny top hat, tiny feather top hat? Where you check in and instead of mint on the pillow, you get a little chicken blood tiny voodoo hat. All right. I think
Starting point is 00:41:51 Rosie's out. She's not coming to Moonwrager with us. How did she pass CIA muster? She's a coward at every turn. Here's the problem. I think that all of the interviews were done over the phone with Felix. Rosie, listen. Listen. Are you listening on your lighter? Your CIA issue lighter? Look at this. Look at this costume. Look at this. I've got to get one of these.
Starting point is 00:42:14 You've got to get a very low crop top tank? I mean, that's not even a... tank is like a girdle. It's not even a V. It's a deep, it's a deep scoop neck. Yeah. Look at that. Look how tan he is.
Starting point is 00:42:26 What color would you call that? Salmon? I'd call it the, you know what? I'd like it if Roger Moore had his own paint color. Yeah. I know. Like a pantone color. Come to Benjamin Moore for Roger Moore's skin tone.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Roger Moore's pores. Pour some. Roger Moore. This is a Canadian tuxedo. Yeah. Denim on denim. Oh, but it's a summer Canadian tuxedo. So I'm guessing right there he just got the idea to stack the deck.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Must be, yeah. So he had to buy 52 decks? How many cards are in a tarot deck? I think he's, I think he just had to buy. Well, he had to buy. I think there's four of each in each deck, right? But still, 20 son. Or 12?
Starting point is 00:43:20 I don't know. There's another Canadian tuxedo. Speaking of Quarrel. This is a Jamaican tuxedo that Roger Moore has on. When does Quarle reveals himself much in the same way again, right?
Starting point is 00:43:37 What do you mean? Like pulls a gun. Isn't that how he reveals himself in this? I forget. No, she pulls a gun on him. Yeah. He doesn't even reveal that he speaks English. Which I think is the key to. all comedy.
Starting point is 00:43:58 One character in the scene doesn't know they're in the scene. Everybody wins. Oh, we've talked about this, but really stupid place to put your secret switch. Quite possibly the worst place you could ever put a secret anything. Yeah, I mean, that is really dumb. Yeah, let it still be a functional hanger. Yeah. I just don't understand why they would even think to put it there.
Starting point is 00:44:22 in your mind what is coral doing there is he just like does he is he just really interested in what james bond is fishing for i think so he's looking because there's no reason for him to say there other than to you know to to mislead the audience so that's a oh so he was messaging choral junior the man who shares my hairbrush oh my god it's right in the dialogue matt they have this he like he has another hairbrushed like that, I didn't put that together. She's not even looking. That's incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Every time you go layers deep on these films. You learn more and more. Like James Bond has a huge pole in the scene. Why is she wearing a wig? She wanted to. I think that it's just her style. It's like, you know, how you choose a bikini, you know? Why'd you go purple yellow?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Right. Now Quorold Talks. But I got to say, some of the not best ADR I've seen. Yeah. James Bond movies have either the most amazing ADR where, like, for instance, I didn't know Goldfinger didn't speak with that voice until I was a grown man. Or the worst as in, all right. Let's get the dogs. Move along.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Where bring the dogs. Should I do an audio commentary as that guy? That'll be. Tough to sustain. They're moving along. We talked about in the Dr. No commentary how strange it is to have a desk without a computer on it. Yes. But man, is that attractive to me?
Starting point is 00:46:24 The idea of it? But you would never get anything done. Because you can't do anything. No. I mean, we could record a podcast on this desk without a computer, except that the computer is playing in the movie. Yeah. And, well, that's really it. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:47 How many times a day do you think Cananga gets a reading over the intercom? I think it's on like the most, like what to have for lunch today. Solitaire, what will we have for lunch today? Solitaire, I'm thinking about ordering a chicken salad and adding chicken. It is dead. All right. Oh, salmonella. Salmonilla.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Salmon. Salmon it is. Up there. Matt, I think the time has come for you and I to seriously consider. Rolex Submariner watches. What? Really? Because look,
Starting point is 00:47:21 every time I'm watching an old feature, you got your Roger Moors, your Sean Connerys, with their Rolex Submariners. And it is just a little bit annoying to me that I don't... How much are? Those are so expensive.
Starting point is 00:47:37 If you buy a vintage one, it's crazy. Like a 60s vintage Rolex is probably 30 to 50,000. Yeah, that's a car. That's not. But I'm saying we do. Okay. I'm saying we look for a reasonably price, used one from the 90s. And how much are those?
Starting point is 00:47:52 We'd have to sell a couple things. For instance, every watch I've ever owned, every guitar. I just don't wear a watch anymore. I wonder if I would. It's like somewhere to give me a... You'd get back into it, I think. If someone gave me a Rolex, I'd wear it. I probably would.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Blades has a Rolex. Yes, he does. And I can't remember if he has one of those ones. Like, you know this. I don't know much about watches, but he has like a thing where you, at night, you put it on a rocker because they're self-winding, but it has to have motion. So, yeah, he doesn't need to do that at night because it will run off of his body's motion. And they usually have a reserve. Like, for instance, if I put this one down, it'll go for 42 hours without me.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Really? Yeah. But otherwise it's winding from the motion. Yeah. There's a counterweight in it. And where's the little magnet switch? that is obviously that top crown Okay and the sawblade
Starting point is 00:48:47 Sawblade you have to That actually works off my wrist nerve movements Okay and the laser Laser that model actually does not have a laser I opted for the Geiger counter That's right man This is beautiful James Bond's ahead of it by the way
Starting point is 00:49:01 Wow Matt's looking at Make your choice That was it That was Make Your Choice We missed it Oh man Ah
Starting point is 00:49:08 Do you realize that the last time We watched this movie and I made that observation that the first time we watched it, I had a note that said, make your choice, and I didn't remember what it was for. And that whole episode, I was going like,
Starting point is 00:49:22 what is make your choice? What is make your choice? We never answered it until the second time through. Did a fan figure that out? Yeah, someone pointed that out to me that. That's amazing. It was a like two-year-long journey or something, two or three years.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Now, Rosie, of course, got hit by a paintball. Yeah, a coconut head paintball. It looks like a couple of them. Terry blue denim. Yeah. How do you feel about it? It's going to be a beautiful day. I love it.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Are you kidding? It's the best of everything. Look at this floor, though. That's, that, I got to say, first time I've noticed the floor. Yeah, me too. Lit floor. Is it a lit floor? Do you think it's a ceiling situation?
Starting point is 00:49:58 Oh, like a go-book? Like a ceiling light. I think it's a lit floor. I want it to be a... Unless maybe it's a reflective floor or something. Look, I like... Yaffa-Coto. The brown pocket square tie combo.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Look at this costume. Look at his suit's nice. Look at that. Wow. Look at that tie. So it has a pattern, but then one of the little things is popped. That's a gloft if I've ever seen one.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Look at that's a nice suit. We have not really had our share of glofts yet this year. No, because we're all experiencing them together. You can have a listener lookout for this. Say it to yourself. That's it. A loft. That's a loft.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Or a Spanish pronunciation. It's a yaft. Now, we have a hang gliding, cigar smoking, James. Yes, with like a scarf. A ascot. Maybe this is peak bond. I don't know. I mean, it's between the Batcaddy and this, this movie's giving you a bang for your buck.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Day for night, for sure, here. I mean, that's like high noon for night. Look at that tie. Look at that desk. Look at that. bun! What is that? Why am I Seinfeld? What's the deal with the headdress?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Why is she doing it? Why is he always asking your questions? What's he taking away, your powers? What a weird thing that he's going to basically be a rapist, but it's like only in time. So she would have to suffer that assault, but also the dread leading up to. You're overthinking the voodoo high priestess. I guess. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Also, look at that. Communication down the line. These two and their Morse code. Meet the man that shares my hang glider. Meet the man that shares my red button. I mean, come on. What do you think made him make the decision at that point that now is the time to go? Good question.
Starting point is 00:52:16 This is great. That's way past noon. Yeah. That's like. Four o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah. Long shadows in the night scene, guys. It's not.
Starting point is 00:52:25 It's a totally different hang glider. Or is it supposed to be getting closer to daytime right now? This is great. That would not knock someone over. He basically just gave him a shoulder rope. Well, I think if you're already a scaredy cat of the ledge and you're just like, this is, this was his tenth time that day getting close to the edge because his therapist told him to face his fears. Right. And if someone came behind him with a hang glider, it kicked him.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah. He'd fall. Yeah. Why does he have to... Why? Why is he going inside out? He could go in... Why is he going inside out?
Starting point is 00:52:58 With a blue sport coat, but I guess it's like tropical, so no, he has to have like these gentlemen rules of... Oh, look at that tie. Look at that. I got to get a brown tie with a bit... I think I have... I have a beige suit. I got to start wearing a brown tie with a base suit.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's time to bring it back. You all know my favorite suit in the James Bond franchise is the world is not enough diving suit. Yeah. That's right. I think mine is, honestly, I think it's this coming out of JFK, the overcoat. I think my favorite hair is Jane Seymour's hair right here. Quite frankly, I've never seen a thicker head of hair in my life. Yeah, it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Look at that. There's got to be some hairspray happening there, right? Oh, sure. Puffing it up? Certainly. Same with Roger Moore. Let's talk about Roger Moore's hair for a second. Okay. Matt, to your knowledge, are we ever not seeing Roger Moore's genuine hair? No, we're always seeing Roger Moore's genuine hair.
Starting point is 00:54:01 At the most, maybe they do some of that like hair fiber spray. Yeah, a little topic. Yeah, but no, never wigged. I mean, it's very clear in view to a kill that it's his hair because it's just kind of a little wispy and fine, but still gorgeous and flaxen. Do you think he ever had a little rug on the back? I don't believe so, because I think his hair was long enough that they were kind of just poofing it and, you know. Remember that episode of Cheers where Sam revealed his rug to Carla?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Oh, right. Yes, that's right. And she died, right? Like, she basically, like, what? Like, my vision of you is your virility, everything. I like this music here. by the way I have to say
Starting point is 00:54:50 he could have just put half the deck also should be less careless about showing his cards there literally like she's going to make out
Starting point is 00:55:00 with him and theoretically just look right down at that but too late so a superstitious person who is a virgin
Starting point is 00:55:10 it's a non-medical roofie is tricked into believing that the cards are telling her that James Bond is her lover It's a pseudoscience. Although here's why I don't think it's a trick. That's the card he pulls.
Starting point is 00:55:23 At the beginning. Filet of Soul. Yeah. In Harlem. Well, all right. But still. But here's the conundrum you can get into. Here's the conundrum you can get into, though.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Does the card know that eventually he will be stacking the deck? So the card is just telling her what the future holds. But James Bond is truly in control of that destiny. We always talk about how there is a supernatural aspect. of this because Baron Samadie's on the front of the train. But the fact that she cannot see after they have sex, I guess that's still... Again, it's a mental block. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:56:00 She has more chest hair than he does. He has as smooth as skin as she does. Look at that. That is not the skin of a 45-year-old. At this point, had he already moved to Monte Carlo to escape taxes? I don't know. He's doing his knees-bend workout every morning. God damn I forgot about that book until you just said that.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I got to get back into that. We really should have read that before we did this. His reaction to it. Oh boy. She really believes it. That's a little guilt, I think, on his face. It's like, oh, yeah. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I guess I didn't realize she was really into this stuff. Well, that does help a little. It would be just charming enough that she would sleep with me. I didn't really think she would think that this was the end of her. Maybe we're justifying it, but it is nice to, I think maybe he didn't really think she was all in like this. What is she like 21 in this? I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Wow. I would guess she's slightly younger than 45-year-old Roger Moore. Just slightly. She may be under twice his age. Or how do you say that? Twice his age and then some. So she is 22 and 73. Oh my God
Starting point is 00:57:33 I can't imagine Relating on the 20th I can't on a friendship level But like Oh even on a friendship level You're just a little bit like wait what This is just a different time He's more than twice her age
Starting point is 00:57:55 He's a But I never questioned this when I was a kid either Like it's obvious she was younger But that's just movies from that era You just when you're, you know Well you know Look he's he's got the hairless chest of a 10-year-old boy. That's true. It's undignified to watch Bond put socks on.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Do you think that socks just appear on James Bond? That's a good question. Do you think, do you think Bond has any sort of device that helps him put socks on? Like a cube? Like a sock shovel or something? He just puts his foot in a box and they come out stocked, socked and booted. Do you think there was a conscious effort by him to decide how many buttons he would button? One more. I think there was a conscious effort to decide how many he would not button. Janine, one more, please.
Starting point is 00:58:57 You know what? When we would redo our backyard, I should put some of these guys up. Two, three, five. How many? I don't know. Enough to kill intruders. Okay, so now we're at daytime at the San Monique snake killing place. We call it the snake killing fields.
Starting point is 00:59:25 It's going to be a beautiful day. It looks like a set and then it doesn't look like a set. Yeah. I'm very confused. Well, it's a set in on location. I'm sure they made the structures, but it's shot. You don't think those are real tombstones? No.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Also, did Jane Seymour just motion him down with her hand and he followed suit? It's so weird because it's magical, but we also use radios. And he's this like, voodoo baron, but he still just kind of works as a sentry for Mr. Big. I think because Mr. Pig ensures that his island stays protected. I don't know. I think ultimately it's all about his island, you know? Whisper always looks like really bummed to be doing what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Like he just doesn't seem happy, you know? I think the versatility of, uh, of Cananga's staff is really undersold. Whispers should be called Sad Sack. He's just... But look at Whispers. Look at Whisper's skills. A viable waiter at a hotel. Barely.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Barely. Excellent driver. Okay. Yeah, he's good at driving and killing. And he can wear a single-breasted suit like nobody's business. And he can wear a couch. And also, apparently, he can operate 17 remote scarecrow cameras. Is he doing that?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah, I guess so. I always forget this. is about drugs. I always forget it's about drugs as well. But then again, everything's ultimately about drugs. Aren't they worried about hurting the plants? Okay, this movie at this point feels very tedious. Yeah, this is that slump part of every, almost every bond.
Starting point is 01:01:32 What are the bond movies without slumps? I mean, look, I don't think, I, maybe, I don't know, maybe it was just our enthusiasm for it or what, but I felt like Dr. No didn't have a ton of slumps. It did, though. We talked about it, didn't it? Isn't it when he goes to, like,
Starting point is 01:01:50 Mrs. Taro or something? I can't remember. No, but even that's sort of interesting. Yeah. Frankly, I don't think Casino Royale, I mean, Quantum of Salas has a slump because it just doesn't have time for it. I think Guanam Salas is a slump.
Starting point is 01:02:05 No. Unless it's watched after Casino Royale, and then it becomes elevated. But see, then we get right into this, and this is a good scene. This is the double-decker bus scene. Famously, that man looked like a wax figure of a person. I haven't watched this movie since I did the drawing for that stunt spectacular thing.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And I remember pausing things like this to really try to get the detail of this double-decker bus. I feel like I know it so well now. I'm watching it differently going like, oh, yeah, I know those contours. I know that bus. I know the San Monique Transport Department's preference. preferred bus. Come on. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Here we go. We guess we can do it. Yeah. They're maybe excited to be doing stuff. Are they, is this like, is he destroying coconuts? I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I always thought those were rocks, but I think they're coconuts. I don't get the physics of a double decker bus. How it doesn't tip over on every turn. I guess it's just not. It's never going nearly fast enough. But they are really cooking in this. The fact that they can do a 360 spinout,
Starting point is 01:03:15 blows my mind. They must have... It must just be very bottom heavy or something. Yeah, I mean, think about the top deck of that thing. It's probably no more than... Honestly, I think if the top... If the top deck of that thing
Starting point is 01:03:31 were shorn... How does that not tip over? That's incredible. If the top deck of that was shorn, right? And it was on the ground. And it will be. You and I could lift it. No. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Listener, If we do it from our knees and not from our back. I don't know about that. I'm not saying we could like throw it anywhere, but I'm saying we could lift it. If it had handles, you and I could get it off the ground pretty easily. Wow. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I don't think it's that heavy. Interesting. All right. Listeners, if you have made or own a double-decker bus. Or have lifted the top of it yourself. Please write in and tell us why you did that. Yeah. What are they doing?
Starting point is 01:04:14 Is he fanning that engine or telling that guy to stop? He is fanning the engine. The music cue on that, of all things. And then they smile. Oh, we got him now. This is a scene right out of Smokey and the Bandit. There's no way he'll get through that low bridge. Make your choice.
Starting point is 01:04:38 No, not yet. Come on. Pretty good. I don't hate the idea. Make your choice. Make your choice. Make your choice. Make your choice.
Starting point is 01:05:01 now. You don't hate the idea. I don't hate the idea of having some sort of exo covering for your car. Yeah. Yeah. You know what happened in this scene? It's pitched as, it's probably written as quarrel machetes the boat away as James goes for the controls. And then Roger Moore goes, you know what?
Starting point is 01:05:33 I think I'd actually look better doing that. I don't want to run down to the bridge. I'd like to stay in the sun. I'd like to stay in the sun If I don't get enough sun I don't stay this color Salmon color Shaman
Starting point is 01:05:53 A simple matter of heroin snuggling Snuggling Heroin snuggling The best kind of heroin I'm a heroin Snuggler She's just now sex crazed Weren't you
Starting point is 01:06:13 Yeah I mean, I buy it. She, like, brings up sex more than James Bond. Well, that's where you're wrong, because James Bond is constantly bringing it up. No, I'm taking me in this movie, though. Like, she keeps getting them back into bed. So they're going to New Orleans because Hamilton was killed there. So this boat in the Caribbean will make it all the way to New Orleans?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Well, I mean, Coral did just say, look, it's closer to go. to this place. They flew in. So they must be going to an airport in the Caribbean. Look at that shirt he's got on. The casual bond khaki is a little higher than you'd like, I think.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Do you want to get in a taxi that has a bumper sticker that says, responsible company? Is that not the lady death protest too much? I would say responsible taxi is a better name than Uber.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. Is this the only time he's called Jim? No, Wade calls him it in Golden Eye. Really? And in Tomorrow Never Dies, he calls him Jimbo. I forget we're going to have to watch that movie. Golden Eye we're going to have to watch. All of them.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Well, eventually, all of them. That's true. Oh, I forget. I always forget about this scene, too. This is a non-necessary. scene. This is a totally superfluous action scene. Well, we have to get him from A to B, right? But what happens in the end of this? They get away, right?
Starting point is 01:08:17 I'm trying to remember, because it also goes from this pretty quickly straight into the boat chase. How does this scene end? I don't remember. We're going to find out along with our viewing audience. Oh, wait. So she was also in on the plan? No, she was doing that so Bond, she could provide a... a distraction for bond. That's what you think. It's true, but also it's funny that she does all that and then he just bails on her.
Starting point is 01:08:49 That was a great. You're right. That was the plurfer was so far. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I always forget about her. The thing I hate here are these, these are not goggles that could ever exist in real life.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Those are sunglasses. Those are pure sunglasses. That's, that is, those are from the Jack Lord collection. Brought to you by Bleaker Street Flying School. I want a whole spin-off movie on this woman. What are the circumstances that she wants to take flying lessons in her 60s? I love it. I think her husband got them for her.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I think her husband died and she's left all this money and she's just like, I get it. You didn't let me finish. Sorry. Her tribute to him. She never went. She's like, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do this. Bill, I can't.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Bill passes away. She goes, you know, Bill always wanted me to take those flying lessons. And if I fail at it, I'll see Bill. again. I think Bill was a serial philanderer. She knew it. He died. Maybe she munchausen by proxyed him. And he would never fly anywhere because he was afraid of flying. So once she died, he took all his money and just like, I'm going to get my groove back and start living out loud. Boy, the sheer destruction of planes in this film. For a scene that doesn't really get you a ton. But I think, you know, that, that tells us exactly why it's still in this film.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Yeah. Yeah. That's the first time you get a curse word in Bond. And it's from, what's her name? I don't think she says her name. I thought, I thought so. No, maybe not. I guess, yeah, it's a propeller. But I still don't know why you don't shoot at it. here we go. I thought he said her name. Oh no. James Bond has ruined someone else's livelihood. Oh, he just said it. Ah. Sorry. That's her. Sorry everybody at home that I talked over it. They'll hear it. Why is he on the phone with the owner of the flight school? I don't know, but also, are they in Bonn's hotel? Where are they right now? This is where Bond wanted to go stay. Oh.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Hedison's hair is incredible. Look how tall it goes in the back. Struthers. Struthers get out of that corner. Oh no, I always forget he dies. Look at that. It made even cooler with the pipe. Struthers spinoff too.
Starting point is 01:11:46 This movie's full of spin-offs. You got your J.W. Pepper. Mrs. whatever her name is. Struther. Boy, oh boy. Let me tell you right now. A pipe? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:00 A nice sunny day. And a funeral. that's all I need Do you think that they've been secretly feeding him steak and kale right now the past week
Starting point is 01:12:14 to get his high iron content up? Look how he smiles this time. I think he's smiling because he knows that the magnet thing he invented works. Yeah. Because obviously that's the guy who invented the casket mechanism.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Right, right. Because there's no way he's definitely his baby. There's no way he's not funeral killers cue. Yeah. I also like they don't show that it's enough. You already know what's coming. Same party.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Do they have to hire these funeral goers every time? What is the infrastructure? That's what I don't understand. Are they each getting like a Monday morning? You're getting your list of kills this week. Any kills that come up within 24 hours are double. We pay double. Yeah, what time of day is this?
Starting point is 01:13:03 Because also there's... Burns Bison bass. I haven't seen one of those in a long time. This is shot in England. And I'm telling you that because there's no way that a Louisiana outfit would be playing a Burns bass. Oh, interesting. Made in London. That's what I've decided.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Is this also the only time a Bond song features into the story of the movie? No. It's... Russia with love is playing on the radio at the end, right? It's playing on the radio at the beginning. He turns it off. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:52 And the end. And also, I mean, unofficially, uh, underneath the mango tree. Yeah. Just thinking theme songs. Did you see solo? No. It's interesting when he goes to the recruitment center. There's like a video playing like, join the empire.
Starting point is 01:14:13 And the, the imperial march is playing. F method. No, I know, that's not good. Boy, oh boy. You know what? This is a nice rendition. Oh, I love this. I wish, I wonder if this is a single. This is a guarantee arranged by George. Yeah. I really want to know what he's going to say happened to his friend, James Bond.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Look at the way they're just posed. I love that T. He's just standing in the foreground. What's wrong with your lips, sir? Oh, my God. I don't know. This is so silly. But is it silly because we know? It's... Or is it just silly?
Starting point is 01:15:13 It's... Certainly uncanny Valley crazy. Yeah. By the way, no problem he could slip his hands out of there. Yeah. And he wears gloves. Why? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I don't understand it. He doesn't want his cananga hands to be recognized. Someone will recognize my knuckle. Yeah. I have a scar. You think, like, Do you think James Bond is on to this? No, which is ridiculous. How does Cananga develop the Mr. Big personality?
Starting point is 01:15:54 Like, how does he decide this is what I'm going to do? I'm going to deal drugs from my island nation, but I can't do it as me. I'm going to have to be somebody. Yeah, I guess so. Then does he go to the island's resident prosthetic maker and say, listen, I need a, I need some sort of... Give me the best prosthetics maker on San Francisco. Manique, Martique, whatever it is. That did not go as planned, clearly.
Starting point is 01:16:25 And they probably only had one take at this. Ha, T. Also, I feel like he wants to do it quicker. Oh, for sure. I do love Bond's reaction there. Like, am I supposed to be impressed by this? I mean, first of all, I knew it was a mask. I didn't know you were under it, but...
Starting point is 01:16:46 Yeah, it was clear. Now I can take my gloves off, finally. but also he becomes gentlemanly again. Which I, again, you know how I feel about gentlemanly villains. Yeah. Villains who like are entertained by the fact. They all treat sort of, there's a moment where each villain will treat the mutual respect comes out. And they're both like, oh, you're really good.
Starting point is 01:17:18 You're good at this. I don't know if James Bond ever actually respects a villain in the sense that like James Bond assumes he's the best at everything and doesn't care what other people are doing. but there's always that moment where these villains are like, boy, oh boy, you, if I had you on my side, I'd be unstoppable. They're probably both orphans. Who needs to? Which villain do you think he respects the most, Scaramonga? Hmm. Yeah, I don't know that, honestly, I don't know that Skaramanga, other than the whole unnecessary solar satellite plan, I don't know that he's any different from Bond.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Right, but he's also like the least diabolical villain, like the least cruel, right? Yeah, he's not totally... No, he's just like gun for hire. Yeah, psychopathic. Yeah. Oh, probably, um, Oberhauser. Well, he had some time. Yeah, his brother, his good friend, Dr. Evil.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Teehe knows what went down. Mmm. Butter hook. I can't tell if I love that line or hate that line. That's an improv where he goes to... Make wits on second. Try this. What if I said butterhook?
Starting point is 01:19:07 Yeah, I bet you're right. Because it was supposed to get cut, right? And it didn't cut. And then he was like, you know, butterfingers. What if I call you butterhook? Why not say, what is that, a butter knife? Better joke. Because it's a thing that exists.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Butterhooks on the other hand. No, he's saying, he's joking on butterfingers. I know. Oh. which in itself is such a crazy expression. Who made up butterfingers? You know, I bet it was from a time when people were churning butter, you know, or packing butter. And then they would be handed something and it would drop.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Yeah. Handed a whole other BBK. You know those times. Watch. He needed his watch for that? Well, he just needed a serial number that she couldn't possibly know. Why threaten James Bond's pinky? I think is they're starting small?
Starting point is 01:20:07 Also, she, uh, she's impressive if she's normally good at reading, telling him serial numbers. Yeah, I mean, that's really specific. Do you just ever have a, uh, just burning charcoal fire, terrain next to your table? Look, there's two candles on my desk right now. That's true. Which is my own version of, uh, Toreen. Are these, um, scented? Yeah, I don't know what the scent is.
Starting point is 01:20:36 This one's an autumn harvest, rather. I completely missed it. Did she get it right, or did she refuse to say it? Yeah. At least he's honorable. There are many times where Bond comes down to just chance like that. That was a 50-50 chance that he was going to get his pinky cut off. What is that remote control he is, just a round, or, oh, Whisper, look at this, get-up.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Whisper and I share a tailor. I just love that. It's all red. But it's kind of two-tone red. I love the whisper just to just carry Roger Moore out. You know that's like that's the only take whisper could do. Oh, look at this. Titus's grandfather from Kimmy Schmidt.
Starting point is 01:21:27 That's just who he looks like he would be. So he's also magic. He comes over because he's like of the magic contingency. Like he's a magic. It's not very clear. Well, I want something to be clear. Yeah. He's burning a card.
Starting point is 01:21:57 That's why that's there. What did he give him? I think he burned a high priestess situation, a card? I don't know. A queen of cups or something? Oh, she didn't get it right. But boy, he didn't cut off his finger. So the cards told her to do it.
Starting point is 01:22:39 And now she's lost her ability. Because once James Bond makes love to you, you become bad at your job. So their plan was to eventually become a couple? Something like that. Why does he delight in it so much? I think there's just some inter-office politics we're not familiar with by the voodoo people's.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Yeah, it sounds like it. There's a history there. Now, we're heading to Canangas alligator farm. Do you think honking at a gator? I think that's a crocodile. Do you think honking at it actually makes them move? I don't think it matters. This is the moment that I had with Dr. No where I'm just like settling in. I just like, I usually get to sleep during these.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Yeah. So if I get a little less talkative, it's only because we're all getting real comfy. The gator skulls. Yeah, that's like Vlad the Impater paler for gators. Vlad being pater. Glad being gator. I like how they take them on a tour first. This is where we make our bus.
Starting point is 01:24:18 for transporting illegal substances in and out of the country. Thank you for coming, James Bond, secret agent. You'll notice that we have a assembly line here that is FDA approved. Everyone is in a lab coat. Anyone with beards must have a face mask on. To our right, we have boats. And of course, out here is where we keep our bins full of chicken pots. This is the thing that ultimately gave me the idea for the stunt spectacular thing
Starting point is 01:24:53 Because this looks so much like this set of a theme park stunt show Like the Miami Vice one that used to have it universal But weirdly right they this is this is a theme park essentially Yeah it really is although this yeah I don't think this This is yes for sure Somewhere exists that Teehee sport coat that's longer in one sleeve than the other other tailor-made. I just love the chicken parts he's had out in the sun forever.
Starting point is 01:25:37 What is that guy doing? I don't know. He's one of those henchmen that doesn't really get a name, but he's just one of those utilitarian guys. There's a few of those. They're not even secondary. They're like tertiary henchmen that... Who are some other ones like that?
Starting point is 01:25:54 Oh, like in Quantum of Solace, there's that blonde guy that looks like Rutger-Hauer. Bond kills him in the staircase when he comes into that hotel at the end. Oh, right. Well, that's the guy who's sort of identity he takes, right? At the beginning, that guy? No, not that guy. Who are you talking about? He's just one of Dominic Greensmen.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Oh, one of the quantum guys? Yeah. Well, no, he's not one of the quantum higher-ups. He's just one of Green's thugs. Then he takes the tuxedo of? No. Oh, my God. Matt, I'm not even, I can't even plays it.
Starting point is 01:26:33 He's the guy that, I think he's the guy that shoots the guy that falls on the car. Oh, yes. Just a random other person. Yeah, but he's in the movie throughout like this guy is. What are some more of those guys? I don't know. It's hard because of Teehee and Whisper being both quality henchmen. I mean, this is a henchman heavy move.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Yeah, well, like in view to a kill the Asian equestrian woman is kind of like that too. Yeah. That's cool. Who else? There's more. I know there's more. I like that this was done for real. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:17 It's amazing. What world are we in 1973? We're shooting a movie and we're just like, you know what? Yeah. Run across these alligators. Yeah, not only us, but this guy who's not really associated with the production, we're just using his farm. It's crazy. And he's like, I'll do it every day.
Starting point is 01:27:33 That's how I go to work. I've always run across them. It's quickest way, A to B. I'm Ross Cananga. Hi. Ross Cananga, Cananga Gators. Do you think there is anything to him the way he's holding his hand?
Starting point is 01:27:50 Like, is it forced? I don't know what I like it. What is Roger Moore acting there? I don't know, but it's like, he's flexing and like pre-crati chop. Oh, no. It almost would have worked, too. Yeah. It wasn't for that damn rope.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I hope those gators don't have iron in their blood. They'd be sucked right in. By the way, that gator, very white teeth. Good for that guy. Yeah. Now, there's no music. I know, I was just thinking of it. The only sound you're hearing is whatever the foli artist decided to do for gaiters, for crocs, sorry.
Starting point is 01:28:33 And then what looks like fake, those are fake. No. Those gators are fake. are not fake. That shot, that's fake. But then, this is not fake. Why? The shot with Roger Moore in frame, those are fake gators. But then the shot of the actual running across.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Right. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Why didn't they play the James Bond theme when he ran over those gaiters? I mean, come on. How would you, what, tell me which cue you would have gone with. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-or-da-da-da-da-da-da----. Yes. That's the one you would have gone with, I think. So his hope is that slowly each of the factory workers will be eaten one by one.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Or burned alive. I mean, it's just so silly. Oh, he's also going to light the alligator on fire, the crocodile. Why do I keep calling that crocodile? Yeah, it's funny. As I wrote the episode, the Valentine's Day episode of the Goldbergs, and I wrote that there was one of the gifts that Barry's friend got him was a, the scripted line is, oh, it's an obviously, uh, it's an obviously cool alligator.
Starting point is 01:29:48 It's a stuffed alligator that has sunglasses. And then the line, the next line is, uh, his shades flip up to check out alligator babes when he wants to check out alligator babes. And it, we got the, the prop said, uh, crock and roll. So my brain like was like, wait, now we, I was like, I need to get an alt where he says Crocodile. Yeah. And then we were cutting it and we never got it on the other side because there are two lines. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:21 So I was in editing yesterday and I had to sit there and now I have to ADR that actor saying rock and crock. It's like the silly things you don't think of that happen in television and movies. Because of species diversion millions of years ago. Because of props that are wrong. Yeah. This sequence is fun, but it's a bit over a long, right? Where they're just like, we're going to really show you what some speedboats are like over and over.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Have you ever really opened up a speedboat, man? If we're really like taken to the water in a way that is just, I honestly, I feel like the sound. I have. I actually driven a speedboat, not quite a sleek one like this, but it's really fun. It's very calm. Oh, I've never done it on the river. Only in my bathtub. Along with the bathtub caddy and hopefully a shaving mirror that you'll be enjoying for years to come.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Now Matt, you're not a video game person, correct? I'm not, no. Not by trade. And what do you think led to this lack of video game fun for you? I loved video games when I was younger. Arcade style games. Atari, you had an Atari 2600? Yeah, I was obsessed with Dragonslayer.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Pitfall? Yeah, I liked Pitfall. Okay, I liked role playing more games and I liked side-scrower. scrolling Mario type games. You would think I would love first person shooter because they're all World War II and everything. I just get so bored by them. And I feel like I'm not like producing anything.
Starting point is 01:31:49 I'm just kind of taking my time. A third person shooter might be more your speed. Yeah, I like some third person shooters. Here's what I'd like to recommend to you. Yeah. What I think is the narrative achievement of the last 15 years is the Red Dead Redemption Part 2, that video game. People have told me.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Yeah. I think you could really, really. get into it. James has tried to get me on it and I came over and I watched him play and it was 45 minutes of him trying to collect fever few flowers and I just thought, I could be showing you one of the most boring parts of the game. I guess I just feel like I could be like making something or you know, like playing. Like recording a podcast? Well, I mean, to the smoking the bandit prequel, live and let die. I'm not like a shark that has to keep swimming. I like my downtime, but I'll tell you, the big difference here, Matt, between Smoking the Manit and this, is this is scripted.
Starting point is 01:32:43 Right. Whereas Smoking the Bandit appears to not have had a script at any point. Yeah, really. And I'd like to get you back. I'd like to get you into some sort of video game situation. Well, I played from Russia with Love. I played it all the way through. I played Bloodstone and Casino Royale, those bond games.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Did you ever play Nightfall? No. And I never really played Golden Eye that much. I know people just have rapture over it. The fun of Golden Eye is the, is the multiplayer. Yeah. The story-wise, it's fine. I just get bored.
Starting point is 01:33:15 The games really bore me. That's why I'd rather just watch a movie, because I feel like it's, you know, scripted narrative. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. J.W. Pepper. I mean, the confusement on this man's face. Confusement. I like that.
Starting point is 01:33:36 What are you some kind of game machine, boy? Brother-in-law's boat. Shoot, if you'd like to. I like the sad. Tell her to take a flying fuck. This is, quite frankly, not a good look for America. No, and to think that all of this had to be ADR and that you've got, what's his name? J.W. Pepper's name?
Starting point is 01:34:22 Yeah, his real name. Oh, Clifton James. Oh, a nice pull. studio doing ADR on these things is really funny to me. I wish they would have filmed all those sessions, like the guy with the megaphone and Dr. No. There's a sheet music store in Norwalk, California that is named J.W. Pepper. Really? I grew up near Norwalk. And it has been in existence since 1876. What street is it on? It is on uh,
Starting point is 01:34:59 Carmenita. Okay. So this now, this now makes me want to go. We should go there. Where did Tom Mankowitz grow up? Oh. Because where do you pull a,
Starting point is 01:35:12 where do you pull a J.W. Pepper like that? He's the son of Wolf Mankowitz, right? Right. So he's a Hollywood boy. He's got to be. Yeah. His father won four Oscars in two years. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:35:35 For what? The screenplays and direction of a letter to three wives and all about Eve. Oh my God. So he went to Exeter Academy, Phillips Exeter, in Andover, Massachusetts, Tom Mankowitz. And then went to Yale, where he managed it in drama. I saw him speak once. He was great. During summer vacations, he worked at the Williamstown Summer Theater in Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Mankowitz doing all these James Bond movies is so fascinating to me. What was the last movie Mankowitz wrote? It was later career. He wrote, did he write Superman 2? He did Superman. He did? He, according to... But that's weird because Clifton James is in that too as well, playing basically the same character.
Starting point is 01:36:34 His credit remained where it was on Superman the movie, but he agreed to have it come just before the listed screenwriters on Superman 2. Do you think he's responsible for getting Clifton James in there? A thousand percent. Also, Superman 2 is directed by Richard Lester, who I think of as, like, Guy Hamilton's, they're kind of like soulmate directors. They basically, I think, would have made the same movie. If, like, if Guy Hamilton was given Superman 2, he would have made the same version. What if Guy Hamilton was given a hard day's night? Never. No. That's Richard Lester's best work. I like... I like Superman 2 a lot, though.
Starting point is 01:37:20 I like help. I do too, yeah. It's got some pretty funny moments. And Richard Lester did Superman 3, which opens with the whole, like, cause and effect comedy sequence, just like hard days night. It's kind of interesting. That's a cool boat. I love how fast that boat can reverse. Yeah, no kidding.
Starting point is 01:37:46 And that is not one of your classic James Bond overcranked movie camera situations. Yeah, it doesn't seem like they do that. much in this, do they? No. I mean, I don't know what I'd want. A fast boat or a super fast car. I think boats are fun to go out on, but I don't really need to own one. They seem like a lot of maintenance. You know, Matt, they say the two happiest days of a boat owner's life is the day he gets it and the day he sells it. What's that from? Is that just an old... That's just all saying. Yeah, I heard that many times. My dad had a boat briefly when they lived in Lake Arrowhead, and we went down to use it one time, and I've just never seen him more miserable. Oh, it's so much work. Yeah. My godfather has a sailboat
Starting point is 01:38:31 that, you know, it's sort of, you know, it's one of these like signs of summer when it was gone from his driveway. Oh, yeah. You know, he would have it in marblehead at the, you know, I guarantee you that at some point, and I've talked about this with Delaney, Rob Delaney, was one of the taxi operators in Marblehead. I guarantee you at one point Delaney drove me out to my godfather's boat. Oh, that's funny. Wow. There are certain hobbies that on paper look really good, and I think boating is one, but the actual logistics and procedure of it is not fun.
Starting point is 01:39:09 And I'm wondering what my threshold is, because it takes a significant amount of work to set up this backyard movie screen and to set up, like, our little band PA for the speaker. of it. But that every time has felt worth it. And even after like putting it all the way is a fair amount of work, but it feels like that's about right at the tipping point. Anything more than that, I don't want to do. You know what I'd like to do this summer? And it would have to be probably later in the summer when my son is like... That's crazy just to hear you say that. That's amazing. My future baby. That's exciting. Your son... Little James Bond, George Harrison, Myra.
Starting point is 01:39:46 I don't even want to tell you what name... Amanda seems to have agreed to if we have a son. Don't, because I don't want to get it in my head. So I don't want to hear it because we still have like a list of 15 that we're trying to widow down. Are any of them related to this franchise? They're, James is in the running.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Really? Yeah. But partially James Bond related, but mostly just like a lot of the fact that we both really love the King James edition of the Bible. I'm kidding. Jesus. By the way, the name I'm talking about is the full name. name, both names, incredibly relevant to this movie.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Oh, my God. My wife is not pregnant. Would you name a baby, Whisper Cananga, gorely? That's exactly it. That is 100% in it. J.W. Whisper. So what were you going to say? I don't even, what was like, oh, in the summer, what I think would be a fun thing for us to do
Starting point is 01:40:47 would be to, we'll do back-to-back-to-back. weeks or if you do it every two weeks or whatever of your summer movie screenings. But we do back to back where we both choose the James Bond movie. Outside? Yeah. Yeah. And we should kind of choose like summery ones, like license to kill. But then we invite everybody.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Uh-huh. You know, we invite the normal crew. Yeah. And then we decide that on the next day, we're going to be recording a podcast about that movie. everybody who went last night. You're welcome. Is it welcome to come? That's a great idea.
Starting point is 01:41:25 That's a great idea. What are the most sunny, summery, bond movies? Well, we get Dr. No is fairly. Yeah. Thunderball, of course. Thunderball might be the answer to that question. Yeah. Because there's no other climate in Thunderball.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Right. Licensed to Kill is 100% tropical, basically, too. Yeah, Key West and Wayne Newton's Temple. Casino Royals, half of it. None of the Brazans really get that tropical, do they? Like for any extended period of time? Oh, well, die another day goes to Cuba for a while. Yeah, but they also go to the Arctic.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Yeah. James Bond knowing exactly where the throttle on that boat is from that distance is so great. Make a choice. Make a choice. Make a choice. Make a choice. Make a choice. Make it. Make your choice. Make your choice right now. Make a choice. This should also help you if you need to know if you're synced up still. Yeah. That's a great fucking stunt. They just drove a boat into a boat.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Well, I hope that was a oil tanker because it's the only reason for that much fire. Yeah. Yeah. Make boating a fun sport. Three miles per hour. Cute. That is a cute visual joke. That's funny. That's a good shot, the way they're all stacked like that with those expressions. Look at that, the wave that Roger Moore just did.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Casual Moore. Yeah. He's casual bond. Yeah. He's the most casual bond there is. Definitely. He's also by far the friendliest bond. Let's rank them in order of friendliness.
Starting point is 01:43:17 It's interesting to say that, though, because he's also the bond who will, you know, throw a child out of a boat. True. So I'm kind of Dooms. Friendliest Bond, Roger Moore. Yeah. Least friendly.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Probably Daniel Craig, actually. Yeah. Then Connery. Yeah. Second friendliest is probably... Pierce Brosnan. I actually think Laysenby's Bond is pretty friendly.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Yeah, he seems to like he'll have a good time. He'll talk with you. I'd give him second, then Brosnan. And then I guess. That's Dalton. On who, so? What is... Look at this.
Starting point is 01:44:01 We found these cards. They're all burned. Do they mean anything to you? Kids have been smoking tarot cards. What is a lighter holding? He's got a big... I like to think of it as a giant Geiger counter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:16 That's left over from Dr. No. Quickly this just goes right into the last scene. Well, you mean that's... third act. Yeah, but it's a quick third act. Look at that guy's just triumping the ball. Well, that guy's licking the wood without, I mean, the splinters on it, but I mean, that's got to be dangerous. That's probably the most dangerous stunt in the movie. Now, this is an interior set, right? This is a set. There's no way that camera's getting up there if it's not a set. That's amazing. This is a set. Boy, look at that. I mean, they're not even trying.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Coral. I am dressed just like Felix Leiter right now. Matt's almost correct. Yeah. Matt is not wearing khakis is wearing a denim. Yeah. Just if you're wondering what we look like right now, that's what I look like right now. I'm actually, I forgot. I'm wearing a Sean Connery shirt. Oh yeah, that's a cool shirt. From Russia with love
Starting point is 01:45:11 Japanese poster on a shirt. Thanks, Etsy. So you can't give us any teasers on any of the names? I understand if you can't. Dory has the list. But you've never seen it? Oh, no, we've gone over it, but I can't like remember what's on there.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Because I remember, like, names that I've wanted that she said no to. I can give you a couple of those. Honus. Honest. Yeah, I get where she's coming from on that. What is the origin of Honest? Is that a reference to something? Honest Wagner.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Whose baseball player from the 1870s? He also, that's the most expensive baseball card on the planet is the Honest Wagner T-206. Honest minor. The T stands for tobacco. It was in cigarettes. Okay. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Oh, so it's one of the, is it one of the, those little, the long ones, yeah. Honus, I really liked. I pitched Magnus. She was not into that. Riker. Jesus. But she was correct to say no to.
Starting point is 01:46:13 But I opened my... You can't cosplay with your children. My opening volley was deliberately to throw her off. Yeah. Was Falcour. Oh my God. Because I was like... From Neverending Story?
Starting point is 01:46:25 Yeah. Matt, you can't do that to your children. So one thing we did was we went through, there's a book I really like called The Baseball Perspectus, which is Bill James' book, sort of the birth of these advanced metrics, these stats. By the way, that is not a magnet coffin that they're using right now. That is a snake coffin.
Starting point is 01:46:48 He is finally correct. That is a coffin. Everything else was a casket. Right. Sorry. But in that book Bill James lists the baseball players by decade of birth. So like I just went back to like 1860. Oh, and what did you find?
Starting point is 01:47:06 Well, the problem here I've discovered is that a lot of... That is a real green, no. I think it's a real, I think the snake is real until he puts it up to Maurice Bender's face. This guy's body is incredible. Is he making it? onto our moonraker shuttle? He might. We should populate a moonraker shuttle
Starting point is 01:47:26 with the James Bond movies. Who's getting on it? Who are these perfect physical specimens that are going on this? Right now, quarrel? I don't think he's going to make it.
Starting point is 01:47:39 He's making it. No. We're going to need a quarrel. We're going to need a quarrel though. But look at this guy. Much like we need a Jaws and a Jaws' girlfriend who apparently doesn't have braces.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Wait, so what was the name? Well, as you're saying, like we went through and I, pulled a lot of, we pulled a lot of older names, but like, you know, things like Harrison is still in the mix. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Um, Henry, George. Mm. Felix. Really? No. Struthers? Oh, Struthers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Oh, another one I tried. Struthers Myron. Another one I was kind of into, but she said no, too, was Sumner. I like Sumner. I like Sumner, too. I got a, next Halloween, I'm doing this Bond look. Are you kidding? Come on.
Starting point is 01:48:22 I got to do this. So she is, do you think she's going to die a fright or, well, I'm asking you as though you haven't seen the movie? I have never. She dies a prior here, right? Look at that. Look at that gun. Did he stop because he was like, that moved away or he just was like, well, they'll definitely hear the gunshot now. The music stopped.
Starting point is 01:48:52 So we've established the tourist show they put on, right? And now we're putting this hat on. a grave. Yeah, this is definitely not a tourist show. This is an insider thing. You got to have a ticket for this. This is invite only. Of James Brocray?
Starting point is 01:49:13 What is that? James Brockett? Brockett. What do you think of the name Brockett? Don't like it. Thank you for agreeing. I'm not like it. This also feels like something you'd see in a theme park stunt show, like a statue that comes out of the ground.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Oh, you know it. I gotta get one of these in my backyard too. I'd like an animatronic Omni moving dark ride through each James Wine movie. How great would it be to have this statue in your backyard? Are you kidding me? That'd be incredible. It'd be like having the... Didn't Dana Gould have the lawmaker, the lawgiver from Planet of the AX?
Starting point is 01:49:51 Yes, yeah. I guess that's the part of it that always broke my brain as a kid. Yeah. I just was like, so wait. it looks up or does it break? It looks up, right? But it breaks and it does that. I know, there's a lot of unanswered things in here.
Starting point is 01:50:16 So many unanswered questions. Look at the size of that, look how much shammie leather the man has to use for that gun. I know. James Bond, this is, yeah, this is without a doubt the best that, the best that Roger Moore looks as James Bond. Yeah, I may take it back. This may be it. There's a lot of peak Roger Moore.
Starting point is 01:50:38 No, no, I'm saying like, I'm taking the whole movie as a package. I'm not just taking one suit or one outfit. No question. Yeah. See, now, if he fired the gun here and shot him and that guy bled and died, I'd be less confused about the movie. But I'm pretty confused about the movie. Look how good Roger Moore looks there.
Starting point is 01:51:05 I love these little songs. I like that he also decides to honorably fight him with a blade. Yeah. He puts the gun down and decides that I will. All right. Yeah. I'll play. I'll play your game.
Starting point is 01:51:19 He dispatches him so quickly, too. I kind of would have liked Baron Samaddy to have a little bit more of a struggle. Well, here's the thing, too, right? I think Baron, in this point, knows he's physically outmatched and has decided that I'm going to, these are the Taurus snakes. I'm going to pretend to die in the snake thing. Oh, yeah. And that's the only way I'm going to get away. Because it doesn't sound like a real death rattle.
Starting point is 01:51:41 His noises. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In a way, I gotta say, this third act, I'm back on board with this movie. Oh, yeah. And this, as underground layers go, forget about it.
Starting point is 01:51:53 This is amazing. Plus the red and blue. I love a uniformed. I love a uniform contingent. The casual uniform that you could wear out on the street. Well, when I was in high school, we were Catholic high school and we had casual Fridays where we could wear the polo shirt, the optional crested polo shirt. Well, these guys are essentially target employees.
Starting point is 01:52:14 So what I'm saying here, that's another thing too that I find interesting. That Target is just sort of like, yay, as long as it's red. Yeah, you can wear your own clothes clearly now. It used to be a polo, but now it's, they didn't want to pay for it. But part of me also was like, how much money did that save the company's bottom line? I'm sure. $20, $30 a person. To the point where I've gone into Target many times in a red top and people ask me where shit is.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Do you ever answer them if you know it? Yeah, I go. It's down the road at Walmart. You are just the rosy of retail. And then I put on a blue polo and head over to Walmart and they find me again. You tell him's a best boy. Oh, that's my brother. Target Phil.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Oh, I thought you were putting on a blue shirt and saying, it's a Best Buy. Oh, yeah. And then you went to Best Buy. Then I put on a Hawaiian shirt and go to Trader Joe's. So here's some goat's breast. You ever put on a navy blue t-shirt and pretend to fix someone's computer at the Apple store? No, I will. I've done it many times.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Look how friendly he is. Again, I love a friendly villain. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what you should think about for our fantasy draft, Matt. Yeah. If you draft a Cananga, you get yourself a Cananga and a Mr. Big. That's true. Two for One.
Starting point is 01:53:30 Did he say Keep the Change? I believe he did. All of those shirts have Cananga monograms on him. We got to get some of those. Look at that lighting fixture, too. What's the story behind that like... Behind this gun, the super laser? No, the statue behind him.
Starting point is 01:53:52 I think it came from a... All these... Wow, I never noticed all these artworks. These are all pillaged. Have we decided what happens to whisper here? You mean, does he survive? Yeah. Yeah, because he gets put in the little monorail thing.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Do you think it was meant for him to fall back like that? I love it. Yeah. And no, I don't think it was my one fall back like that. I wore this turtleneck in honor of this movie. Did you really specifically? Because you knew it was happening? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:39 That's so fucking smart of you. Yeah. I don't have high-wasted pants like that. You're a smartly dressed smartesian. Podcaster. What do you think about the fact that the monorail makes its return to the layer? After you only live? I love it.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Relax. Calm down, Quarrow. Freaking out. You got too much of your father in you. What are they normally lifting on this thing? I think they are normally lifting sharks. That's just sharks. That's a good lion delivery there.
Starting point is 01:55:34 I doubt you get the chance. Yeah. A whisper. Whisper gets a spin-off too in my world. If it wasn't for the... Hold on, wait for it, wait for it. Make your choice. Make your choice.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Make your choice. I'm going to cut you on the arm. You're going to bleed into the water. You're going to die because there's shark. That's the song. You can sing the entire plot of the movie. Espresso, espresso. Boat ride.
Starting point is 01:56:21 There's a girl. And it's money, penny. Double boss, double bus, single bus. There's a low, very low bridge hang. Wouldn't his hand? Magnet watch, magnet watch, shark pellet, magnet watch, and a shark pellet. As soon as he turned that on, his arm would twist to the frame of that thing there on. Oh, that's very true.
Starting point is 01:56:50 God, I hope these sharks haven't eaten a lot of iron. this joke, I'm going to ride this to the end of this movie. You know, seeing as, seeing how that pellet reacted to Kananga, what James Bond just did was very dangerous. Yeah, that's right. Slowly whispered. I like that he is, yeah, if Mr. Big didn't exist and he didn't have the freak out over Solitaire, Cananga would be the thing. the most casual villain.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Yeah. I don't know what it is now. Heroin Fields have been blown up and he's just like happy as a clam. I think he's gone a little crazy. Oh, I think he's loving what's happening right now. He had this whole situation constructed just for such an occasion. Yeah. How many takes did you do?
Starting point is 01:57:47 Fucking retouch the paint. I hate that. On the Savley. Oh, right. Yeah. It's the same thing with the beach. closed by order of the Amity PD sign in Jaws. Like you can tell that they tried to hammer it six or seven times before they did it.
Starting point is 01:58:05 All right. So that's the last we ever see of Whisper, right? Yes. Oh God, his fighting moves are incredible. So Whisper could very much be alive. I like to distract you with this hand while I stab you with this one. Yeah, that's pretty great. I got to remember that if I ever get into the Caribbean knife fight. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:58:25 They're both in there, but only one of them is bleeding. This is. I love him he's pointing. him like, don't use me his shield, there's a shark coming. I think that's what he intends to do. Mr. Big, the Mr. Big mask looks like Yafat Coto underwater.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh, my God. It's the worst, dumbest moment in James Bond history. Not the worst, the dumbest. It is, without a doubt, the second dumbest moment in James Bond history. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:59:02 And I'll tell you, Why, when we get to Moonwreck? Do you know that even if, like, let's say we age into our golden years and whether or not we're still in touch or not. Wait, what? I'm just saying, you never know. There's no questions. Yeah, I know, you're right. But let's just say we haven't talked to each other in a while.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Okay. Like, um. It's been 10 years. We were overseas. Yeah. And we're both on our death beds, separate time, same time, whatever. I'm going to be going. Can I go blue.
Starting point is 01:59:27 And you're going to be. Pige and all. Good night. Can I tell Matt. Canang a balloon. You're saying I admit it on my deathbed? That's what I tell you. No, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Tell Matt. He's right. He'll know what this means. Is that rear projection? Yes. Yeah, I think so. I love it. I mean, he should know not to play her cards because...
Starting point is 02:00:03 What's on his tie? She's magical. Hmm. What's the rest of it? I've grown up in isolation. You'll see. They need, train people still need to wear those little red hats. Train people.
Starting point is 02:00:30 I always forget about T. He. Yeah. Every time I watch this film. Right. It's got a new robe. It's a classic, uh... He said three robes in this film. And now I'm with you.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Like, there's no, there's no robe provided by the train. No. This is a James Bond When he's packing When M says, when Money Penny says I've got your plane tickets He then spends time choosing which three robes he's traveling with And sorry, this would kill him
Starting point is 02:01:03 You don't know what You don't know if it's rubber lined in there But it's connected to his muscles He's got cables connected to his muscles He does Well how else is he triggering the movement of it? I don't know. Magic. Definitely. Magic.
Starting point is 02:01:18 What were you just saying before that? I was saying that every time M shows up with a destination and money penny hands of tickets, he spends time choosing bathrobes. No, there's a, there's a branch, there's R before John Cleese, who's just the robe issuer at MI6. Head to R branch. They'll issue your robes for this trip.
Starting point is 02:01:38 He's got a beautiful satin, knee length. I'm going to cut her pinky off, but I don't want her to see this. Look how he points his hand at him like a gun, too. That ought to do it. Decker cards. I mean, once your claw, once your tehee claw hand gets trapped in the thinnest walls and known to man. Yeah, there's no way out of it. That is, of course, train bathroom walls.
Starting point is 02:02:03 You know what that makes me realize is that what do you think he does? Do you think James Bond will, will go number two in that bathroom? Because the wall's so thin, and he's got a beautiful lady in there? Oh, I don't, I don't know. He would, but I don't know that she would. Roger Moore would. Yeah, and it probably smells like light lights. He would.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Ah, the lilac fields in France. And he'd come out and go, like, you know, I don't know, he'd make some pun. You know the old adage. Oh, you're right. He would not have enjoyed that electric shock. Matt, I was foolish not to remember the clippety claws. Make your choice. Cut the cable, no clippers. Make your choice. And his arms is...
Starting point is 02:03:01 The whole bomb diffusion kit. And do you think that's hers or his? I think it's hers. Eh. I love it. I love it goes. Unable to use English words. The, uh, does she, she doesn't know he's there at this point, right?
Starting point is 02:03:27 So she thinks that the James has just put her in that thing. Yeah, I wonder. Ooh. I'd love that prop. Oh, yeah. That'd be a great one to have. Oh. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Mankey. Manky. Oh, Manky. This is one of the only Bond movies that could justify a sequel. Cliffhanger. I don't know what the sequel is, though. What? He takes over St. Martin and then decides that he wants revenge against James Bond
Starting point is 02:04:17 because he's really annoyed by Dr. Quim. Rolex. Pulsar, the Time Computer. Oh my God. The Black Stuntman's Association of Hollywood and tarot cards by Fergus Hall, courtesy of Portal Gallery London. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:04:34 The Jamaica Swamp Safari Limited. You know what? That was a better one to read than Jamaica Defense Forces. Let's not forget about Bernard Lee and Lois Maxwell retaining their trip now through their third James Bond.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Yeah, right. Not Q. That's just still so weird to me. What does Manky got against Des dez-dez-e Mankey v. Desi. Manke and Des, I think. I would watch that cartoon.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Yeah. The two of them. Yeah. He's writing the movie. Desmond Lewellyn's pitching. That's right. Pitching props. Well, James Bond will return
Starting point is 02:05:08 with the Man of the Golden Gun. According to the end of these credits. And so will we with the living daylights. Yes. Aha. Can't wait to hear the aha song, Matt. Comes up on. You're hearing the lion roar again, everybody.
Starting point is 02:05:22 We did it. our way. Thank you all for participating in this audio commentary. Are you enjoying it? Do you, do you watch the movie or do you just listen to this in the car? Either way. Let me know. We enjoyed being with you in a one way since. Yeah. Do you know what's funny, man? After we recorded our first one back, I sort of had the feeling of a day, like for a day and a half. I was like, that was fun. I'm glad we're doing this again. Oh, me too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good way to watch them. Yeah. I think if we went through a third time just on our own, it would have been a bit tedious. Yeah, this is a good method.
Starting point is 02:05:54 Yeah. I hope you're all enjoying it. Don't forget, sign up for Stitcher Premium with the promo code, whatever it is. I think it's just Bond. There you go. Bond. Oh, boy. Or bonding.
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