James Bonding - Casino Royale with Amanda Lund and Maria Blasucci

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

Amanda Lund and Maria Blasucci join the Matts to talk about the sexiness that is James Bond and Casino Royale! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Now entering nerdist.com. Matt and Matt. Mad and Matt. Bodding. We haven't figured that out of Jay's Bonding. It's really just a music sting that starts it off. Acapella style. Yeah, it never gets farther.

I mean, it's just like the Disneyland Barbershop Quartet. Right? You worked there. Duet. Yeah, I did. That's right. I didn't do that. What's wrong with me?

He gets real sad. It smells like rosemary in here. It does smell really ladylike in her. It's you? Oh, well, that segues us into our guests. She was chopping some, she's making some roasted potatoes. I was handling rosemary a matter of minutes ago. It's for remembrance, you know.

I want to put this a little closer. Oh, yeah. This is Amanda Lund and Maria Blasucci. Hey, guys. Hi. Welcome to our podcast, guys. Thanks for having us. Yeah, pleasure.

More commonly known as the ghost girls on Yahoo screen. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's right. Mm-hmm. Welcome. Congratulations on Ghost Girls. Thank you. It's getting some press.

The reporter, read that today. Yeah. A split cider said it's the number one new series on Yahoo. There's only five to choose from. But we're number one. Well, I mean, we're just lucky Burning Love isn't back. I know, that's true. If you haven't checked out Ghost Girls,

it's a comedy about two paranormal investigators that just don't, they don't want ghosts on their jam. Well, we do. But they like ghosts. They're helping them. We just want to help them. I've never seen them. Matt, you were in a couple of them.

Yeah, but I didn't watch myself. No, it's fantastic. And Girls is with an H. Yeah. G-H-I-R-L-S. And if you just ghost just to Yahoo homepage, it'll be right there. No, no, no. Don't do that.

That's a lie. It's hard to find. Just go to ghostgirls.com. Yeah. Boom. That's the easiest way to get there, right? Yeah. Do you guys have a Twitter-specific account for the show?

That's another topic of conversation. We're trying to get one. We're working it out. It's hard to get a Twitter these days. We're in conversations about the Twitter and the Facebook page right now. Is that Twitter handle isn't registered yet, is it? It is. It's a skeleton account.

It's just an egg right now. You know how when people have like a... Yeah, my dad. It's just an egg. And why is it an egg? My mom has an egg. Really? I think because the bird hatches from the egg.

The Twitter bird's where the tweets come from. They come out of the egg. That's very interesting. That's what came first. But just hashtag, if you just hashtag ghost girls, we'll find it because we look. It's true. If you're like, how do I get to ghost girls? Hashtag ghost girls, Maria will personally assist you through it.

I will. Some people are shocked that I'm answering them. I'm like, I have 200 friends. I have a long conversation with a woman today about all of her daughter's names. Wait, on Twitter? On Twitter? It's the first Twitter conversation I've ever had. Did she watch Ghost Girls?

I think so. You're using Twitter wrong. I think I know. I was at lunch with her when she was doing this. Amanda's my girlfriend, by the way. Lover. So thank you for coming on our James Bond podcast. Now, this is no surprise to Amanda.

That's still funny to me. Lover. If you were on Ryan's Roses on Kiss FM. What's that? That is Ryan Seacrest. Is that like the Bachelor? He's the new Casey. You know what it is Amanda, right?

Heck yeah. What he does is he has one of the women that were at the radio station, call, call, well, say Amanda calls in, and she goes, I don't know if my boyfriend Matt is loving me, like he should be. I think he might be cheating on me, and then they, Ryan Seacrest will call you and you'll answer your phone. No, he won't, Ryan Seacrest won't, the girl will. Oh, yeah.

And she'll say, I'm from blonde, bought flowers, and you get a free, free bouquet of flowers to send to whoever you want, no, you don't need to give us a credit card. It's on the house because it's a new shop. Yeah. And then. You could have done this to me and tested me because I didn't know what this is. Yeah. And then Matt would say like, oh, I want to send it to Jennifer, my secretary.

Wait. When did you get a secretary? Well, that's the real surprise. And then you'd be busted. And then Amanda would be on the line. And so would Ryan Sechrist? And he'd go, hey, Matt, it's Ryan Seacrest at 100.7. What?

And he'd say, you're on Ryan's roses and we've got Amanda on the line. And we're wondering why you didn't send roses to Amanda. And this happens daily. And you can listen to a bunch of them on. Podcasts we should do, or we just do Amanda and Maria's roses. We just call each other. I have to say, for the record, I think that's a brilliant radio segment. It's a brilliant radio segment.

It's a little sister. Well, first of all, Gray James Bond podcast. Second of all, I have another question. I have a follow-up question. There must be some that send it to their girlfriends, and that must be a nice thing too. Well, then it's not nice because then the girlfriend gets called out and he's like, the guy will be like, what are you doing? Like, why don't you trust me? It can't end well no matter what.

But it can only end well for radio, right? Oh, yeah. Seacrest is doing... I mean, look at Seacrest, he's on top in the world. And this is why. Ryan's Roses. Ryan's Roses. It's why.

James Bond, right, guys? Let's get back to it. Yeah. Yeah, this is... Well, it is kind of appropriate. Roses are for lovers. We're talking about lovers. This is our favorite James Bond movie.

This is going to be kind of a love fest, I think. This is the one we give the most roses too. Of all the bond. Yours too? Yeah. Wow. Matt and I are big Bond fans. This is our, we drive basically the same car.

Yep. We are named Matt. Yeah. And we love James Bond. Yeah. And the question is, who would I send a roses to? Amanda or Matt? Amanda.

Well, that's okay. There's enough roses to go around. Oh, we all get a rose. Now, I just wanted to talk briefly about Ghost Girls for a second, which is, we don't normally plug the thing, but I'm so fascinated by the idea. Did you guys just really enjoy making fun of watching ghost hunters and things

of that nature? No, I don't think we were making fun of it. I mean, I think we like, I mean, I really enjoy those shows. Maria genuinely is a fan of, like, ghost adventures. Yeah, that show I love. But you also harassed that guy on Twitter. I don't harass him, I say things to him once in a lot. I had to interview that guy

on attack of the show. Amazing. And it was a satellite, we had a satellite interview. Amazing. And, uh, I just I just, like, I could not... Zach Begans. Yeah, well, he couldn't see me. Oh.

So, I was rolling my eyes during the interview. And if you watch it, I'm just very upset and frustrated with him. Wow. He's the best. I've never seen that show. Oh, Matt, you'd love it. Would I? Yeah, but we're not making fun of them at all.

I think it's just funny. Well, I think some of the tropes of the shows are... Exactly. I mean, it's funny. What we're doing is putting these characters in a very, like, life and death situation. I mean, there is these ghosts that are, terrorizing people and these girls have to, you know, they're the ones that are in control, but they're completely out of control.

You're more like just borrowing the style of a ghost whisperer or satiring, like, or like medium or something. It's got that procedural. What is this ghost whisperer show and can I watch it? Jennifer Love Hewitt. Oh, that ghost whisperer show that ran for so long. Did it? It had to run for at least five seasons.

It was on Friday. I remember it would be on TV. on Fridays. Oh, yeah. Friday nights are like eight. No one watched it. I mean, I watched one episode. Yeah, we drew, we watched one episode of the Ghost Whisper and generated like 12 episodes.

12 episodes of our Yahoo series from it. It's true. It was about the episode was a real estate agent had died. No, wait, what was it? A real estate agent died. And then his fiancee, like, it was just a lot happened. It was crazy. I want you all to know

the Ghost Whisperer went five seasons Wow That could be syndicated Yeah Yeah Hit the 100 episode mark Yeah Probably running that on K-O-C-E

Is that the channel that runs like I Love Lucy Yeah It's like an Orange County almost What would have been UHF back in the analog days Yeah Melinda Gordon was Jennifer Love Hewitt's character day Yeah she was based on a true person Really?

I didn't know that. I think so. 107 episodes. Give it up. Just enough. Just enough. They got to cut that cake on the set. They were loving it.

They were loving every second. Yeah. Now, I do know they use the Town Square and Universal. Yeah. That's right they say that on the studio tour. Yeah. Yeah. I know that because you're like, oh, that's the back to the future.

And it's haunted. Courthouse. Oh, yeah, obviously. Guys, Casino Royale. We did it. Thanks for coming. So let's talk to both of you about your sort of, Did you grow up liking James Bond?

Had you seen any James Bond? Well, I grew up in the Brosnan era. And I will say that... Rod in the cradle, man. Nice. Yeah, he is. There's a bit of a... Opposites attract.

Opposite ages. No, I mean, opposite bonds. Oh. Amanda's 13. I'm 82. But I, unironically, thought Pierce Brosnan was the sexiest man. Oh, so did I. Alive. Well, I do think he's sexy. Don't get me wrong.

But I didn't, watching those Bond films, I just thought they were amazing. And I would go with my girlfriends, we'd get dropped off at the movie theater by our parents, and we would see the Pierce Brosnan Bond films. And I just loved him. And then when Daniel Craig and these new movies came out, I just, I mean, I was loving it. I think we saw Casino Royale together or no. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. Because I have a very specific story about how I saw. Oh, gosh.

Go for it. Well, I had no... I mean, I grew up... I saw the Pierce Brosnan movies. I had a huge crush on Pierce Brosnan, and I met him when I was younger, and I met him with a mouthful of pretzels. You were him.

That's... I did. That's how I imagine he was most of the time now. But I had seen... I saw Golden Eye. I remember seeing that. Is that one on a train? There was a train sequence.

Yeah. But I was never really into James Bond, and I wasn't interested in seeing the new ones when it came out. So when Casino Royale came out, I just wasn't interested. But then I was on a flight coming back from New York to L.A., and they were playing it on the plane, and I had no interest in it, so I didn't have my headphones on. And I think I took a nap, and when I woke up, it was the scene

where he was laying on the beach. And I think it's when Vesper and him are on the beach. Yeah, yeah, sure. When they're... You had a good two-hour nap, then. Yeah. No kidding. I might have not been taking it now.

I just might have just not been paying attention. And I looked up and it was like the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. Like not just Daniel Craig, but I was like, oh my God, what am I looking at? Like this, this looks amazing. So as soon as I got home to L.A., I rented it. Like, I went to Blockbuster and rented it. You did the right thing. This is an old-timey story.

I'm rap. I went to Blockbuster. I rented it. Sorry, sorry. I feel like I'm reading it. like a romance novel or erotic fan fiction. Like Daniel Craig comes out of the screen. It's like penhouse letters but for James Bond, basically.

It was, it was a romance because when I popped it in, and I was with my parents, we were all watching it together, and the first scene is in black and white. And I remember thinking to myself, like, what's happening right now? Like, what am I getting myself into? Because I had never, I had no idea this was what it was going to be. I was like, this is cool. crazy how good this is and I remember when the

You reacted like an audience watching the Wizard of Oz for the first time. I swear to God I did win that when it, when he kills the guy and then it went dunna, dunna, my mind blew and I was with my parents and I think I went like, oh my

God and everyone, it was like, yes. I couldn't believe what I was watching and it was the best movie I'd ever seen. Did I tell you this? was not the perfect guess. No. I can't tell you that the experience of not having any notion of what was going on.

And then just having that being blindsided and having this amazing film right in front of it. It blew my mind to the point where I, where I got. Maybe you should do this podcast. I've never seen, I've only seen the Daniel Craig. I've never seen any other bond film really except Golden Eye. And I can't. I got physically ill. I loved this movie so much.

I can't tell you. I mean, I will testify that Maria is obsessed with it. It's her happy place movie. Me too. I bought it. When I got back to New York, I went to the Virgin store, and I bought it on DVD. Another old time is story. And I bought it.

Tower Records are Virgin. And I would watch it. And people, because I was in a dorm at the time at NYU, and I would hear an action sequence going on like two doors down for me. And I'd say to my roommate, Nilo, I'd go, oh, my God, someone's watching. casino royale because I would just hear the fight sequence. I had seen it so many times. I recognized that stairway.

No, I wouldn't see it. I would just hear it. And it would be like the airplane seat, the airport scene. Miami Airport, yeah. But one time I went, and this is my last little tidbit, but one time I was watching it and my roommate Nilo went to bed and she woke up at the end credits and the credits were rolling and she looked over at me and I was smiling from here to ear and she went, Maria, it's over.

Why are you smiling? I was looking at the screen just happy. I get it, girl I get it That is remarkable Isn't that? I love it I remember being in the theater

Because I'm proud to say I was I'm on record As not one of those people Like Craig is not Bond Oh this guy's gonna suck From the beginning I'm like I'm ready for something new I'm so glad this guy's playing Bond

It may fail miserably But I love that they're going Like for something different with this They're going with a blonde Yeah Oh yeah And just kind of like a rough Hewley

Like Fleming type, you know. And so when a group of us went that night to the movies, and I was pretty much in immediately, but I'm like, oh, this could be pretty good. And the moment when he's up on that crane and the bomb maker throws the gun at him, he catches it without wincing.

He's so disinterested, throws it back at him. That was the moment where I think I literally grabbed my male friend's hand like a girl on a date and just went, I just mentally was like, I am in. I did that when he burst through the drywall. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I was like, how's he going to fit? His chest is too big. Oh, that's how you do it. And the part where he falls and he goes, Lh-Hu-T. An animal. He's like an animal. He is an animal.

Every guy wants to be, every girl wants to be with him, and he's just the perfect, he's just the perfect bond. And that's what they used to say about the original Connery Bond. And I think that still holds up, but I think that this is the modern version of that

that really brought a new generation around him. And like myself, I wasn't a new generation to bond, but it was like, oh, I needed that. Yeah. Well, we should set the stage for everybody as far as where they were with the Bond films at that point. Okay. They'd done 20 Eon Productions.

Dye Another Day was their last one. I still have three ticket stubs at home from Die Another Day. You're kidding. I'm not kidding. You just went to hear the theme song. Yeah. The worst. That is the worst.

I agree with you. That is the worst. I don't know. I don't think we brought it up when we were talking about how bad the quantum of solace theme is. I like that thing. Which one's that? It's the Alicia Keys and Jack Whitewood. Oh, yeah.

Except she sounds off-key. Uh-huh. But I don't mind it, right? It might be. You did it there and I accept it. But I'll tell you what, the Casino Royale theme song is. Chris Cornell. And if you would have told me, like, Chris Cornell is going to do a Bond song.

It's going to be kind of post-grunge alternative rock. I want to. Please, first of all, why are you in my house? But I'm with you. The door was a win. I heard you were watching a song. to pussy. I thought you'd like this information. Oh, then you're a friend. Come on in.

I love it, too. I love it. I, uh, yeah. So, where did you sit on the whole Brosman being done situation? Well, I'm sure it's no stretch to imagine. You're not a big I like the man. I don't like him as Bond and so I A was ready for him, especially after dying another day. That wasn't his fault. Is he just too pretty, do you think? Is he too like

girly? Not girly, but like not... Yeah, that's part of it. I think my bigger issue with him is that he seems like a mix between Connery and Moore and so he wants to like there are times when he wants to act like when he gets punched and he's just doing these jaw clunches and oh I'm really I just see him acting

so hard and then he wants to have these kind of wacky one-liner moments and it feels like both the movies and Brosnan want to have it both ways where I really like the Moore movies because they're so campy yeah I want to go all out yeah they go all out with the camp versus all out with the grit

plus I've said this before they kind of kind of fell in a time when, you know, like everybody goes to their snobby movie years, and I was in my snobby movie years, especially when those came out. Yeah. And just, they just didn't work for me. And also, they suffer a little bit from coming in an era when Die Hard was doing it better. Like, Bond wasn't doing Bond as well as other franchises were doing it at that point. Well, you can see that really, really see that when True Lies came out.

Yeah, because it's a parody, basically. I loved True Lies. I love it, too. Yeah. And you can see how good that movie is versus what they were coming out with. James Cameron, that guy can direct, I guess, huh? Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen an avatar.

Don't get these girls started on Titanic. Oh, boy. Please do. Yeah, so I was bummed out. I was bummed out when Rosnin was sort of kicked to the curb because I thought he had at least one more in him. It wasn't his decision. It was...

No, that's the one thing that's kind of endearing when you hear him interviewed. He's the one bond that's a little sad. Oh, no. Yeah, where he's like a... You can tell he would have loved to have kept doing it. Oh, no. Also, the thing I do love about him is all the other bonds, like Roger Moore is a little, he's just kind of jokes about it.

Connery doesn't care for it. The other ones are a little, like, dismissive of it. Brazen has always like, I really love doing it. Well, he really wanted the role, right? Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah, he wanted it. And he has a long story past. Yeah, which we'll get into.

Wasn't he someone's boyfriend? He was the husband of Countess Leisel von Schlaff in For Your Eyes Only, and that's when he visited the set and they all kind of went, this guy would be a pretty good future bond. and she died. Oh, my God. And then his daughter recently died of the same thing. Their daughter.

Oh, God. So I love the man. I love him too. He's great in the world's end. He's great in the world's end. He's great in the world's end. He's great in Thomas Crown Affair. Like, I kind of wish he would have done that with Bond.

Yeah. Sure. He doesn't wear a tuxedo in. I don't need to disparage him, you know. All right. It's just in Bond. Well, Daniel Craig gets cast. The only thing I had seen him in at that point, I think, was layer kick.

I had seen Munich, which was like where I'm in right there. Yeah. Yeah. When I, I remember reading on IMDB that they had cast him. And I thought the picture that they used made him look like the guy that was in. What was that movie with Sarah Polly with the, with the, with the zombies. It was a remake.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. The Night of Living Dead. Yeah. But it was like, he looked like. Don of the Dead.

I'm sorry. He looked like Tim, Tim Roth. Oh, okay. That's why I thought it was for the longest time. And I had no idea who did. Oh, I know the publicity picture you're talking. Yeah, his hair's a little bit longer, and he's got the P99. Yeah, but this was, I mean, when I went in to see this movie, I was, I'd heard good things,

seen some good press on it, I was ready to go. You're talking about Casino Royale? Oh, so you didn't go, like, opening night or anything? No, I went. There was still press. It opened in England first. Okay, I don't know why you're mad at me. The internet was around in 2005.

You know that, right? Or six, sorry. What year was it? Six. No, it was seven. Six. No, I didn't see it till 07 then. Oh, wow, yeah.

Yeah, airplane time. I saw it in airplane time. Because it was November of 2006. You dropped the two off of that, 007. There you go. We should have waited. 7707. They tried to rush a movie in the next year, but I thought it was too.

I think they should have done it. Well, it would have been the same movie probably. It would have been better because the Nider Strike would not have been over. Yeah. Okay. Cascina Royale. here it is everybody this is the reboot right are we going to call it a reboot yeah yeah we're calling it a reboot the franchise but they'd never done the origin story yeah like the book before this is the first book so they had never had the rights to it up into this point because when we meet connery

he's already been doing it for a while yeah he's hanging out double o he's got it going this movie this we see him get his double o credentials because apparently arbitrarily you need two kills yeah Are those your O's? Yes. Then what's the seven? Good point. Just how well you do it. How good you look to you.

I'm thinking, I was honestly just thinking of like the movie in my head right now and I almost started crying. Not yet, girl. Save it. You might love this the most of anybody on the planet Earth. I've seen it so many times. I love it so much that we're all going to love it less. I know.

I'm worried. I'm worried. I'm going to open. open up my quantum, not my quantum, my casinoats royale. Oh, that's pretty good. Very nice. Yeah. By the way, the quantum James Bond Cologne for men came out today.

What? Why aren't we wearing it? Who says I'm not? We just came back from a hike, but, uh, so that's not exactly that fragrance you're smelling. I wonder what it smells like. It's musky, I bet. Sand and body.

It smells like musk and steel. Gun oil. Blood, a little blood. Steel, blood, mus. And a little bit of a woman's perfume because you've been, Of course. Of course. Yeah. All right, Casino Royale opens up black and white.

Interesting choice. I like it a lot. Martin Campbell directed this. He's back. He did Brosnan's first, Golden Eye. We saw Amanda, me and Matt saw him speak. We all went to go see, I mean, not together. We were just there by happenstance.

That's right. Yeah, we went to go see him speak and then we watched Casino Royale. That's right. They did a screening of Casino Royale and Quantum of Soul was, or they were separate, but Martin Campbell spoke about it. That's awesome. Yeah, it was pretty good. Where was that?

Arrow. At the... Arrow, Sanamanica. Yeah, they did, like, barn. It's like a year ago, wasn't it? Yeah, at least. I missed that. Yeah, you did.

It was awesome. Did he talk about his next directorial opus, the Green Lantern? No. Even then, I think he knew. That was a terrible movie. Anyway, let's talk about the bathroom fight scene. It's great because you can see everything that's happening. All the action is visible.

It manages to be frenetic. crazy but you can totally tell what's going on and that's what I keep writing down in my casino notes royale I don't know where I got that but that the direction and editing is so flawless because you don't notice it but it's still

really lively and it's not like quantum or like the born movies where you get lost in the shaky cam they manage to do it in like a traditional film style but really make it lively guys just go ask someone to marry you tonight and watch this

movie. Or watch the movie. If you're going to have a problem with the next hour or so, just being a bunch of people loving something, then maybe the problem is with you. Well, I mean, there are some problems with this movie, which I will get to. What? I have a few. Well, we watched it last night and there were a few questions that came up just about plot. Yeah, I agree. But they were all actually answered by the end of the movie for me. I'm still asking some questions about Vesper. Like to this day like I'll be driving and I'll be thinking but why? This is the mark of a good movie.

I think there actually is a little of intentional ambiguity left in this. Like not only is it a great action movie but there's a little bit of like what do you think of that? You know like every movie, good movie should have. Are those the issues you were intending to bring up? Matt, the ones surrounding Vesperlin? That's part of it, sure. I find that whole

relationship. Hard to quite grasp. Okay, that's interesting. We'll get into it. Yeah. Why is that interesting? I don't know. Why? All right, let's first talk about it. So he's there to kill the director of, what is he, the director of, of like, of head of section in Prague or something. How do you know that?

But why does it matter? That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But the way we know it is because throughout the other films, but mostly in the novels, there are these people called heads of section. And they like, they're the M's of the, like, exotic locales. Wow, he kills an M. Yeah.

Kind of, yeah, like a lower M. Like, yeah. Like M used to be in Hong Kong. A lower case M. Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's adorable that he gives advice. Well, don't worry, your second kill will be.

Yes, considerably. But it's shot like a film noir movie, like in this office. Oh, the lighting is great. Yeah, verbal gunplay. How did he die in a well? No. Not what. That's what he says.

No, he says not well. No, he says in a well. No. What if right now you go, oh my God, I hate this movie? That was the one thing that movie. He said in a well, girl. No, girl. I think it's in a well because it's a bathroom.

Matt's getting out the DVD right now. It's a bathroom. No. In a well. In a well. That's what he said. No, he says, how did he die? Not well.

In a well. Like, he didn't purport himself well. Not well. No. He died poorly because it hurt. No, it's a well, like a bathroom. Get ready. She's misunderstood this whole movie.

I know. What if she hates it now? This is not the only misunderstand. I guarantee that. Oh. I love it. I'm confused. Maria was like, wow, that's really sassy.

Yeah, well, at first I didn't understand it. And then the next five times I watched it, I was like, I'd get it now because it's a bathroom. All right, guys. I get it now because it's a bathroom. Oh, no. Here we go. That would be the worst. Don't look at it, just hear it.

No. Your file shows no kills. And it takes two. All right, bathroom scene. Everybody's enjoying themselves. They're in a well. They're punching through stalls. Oh, I like this.

The first time we've had clips. Shame. Yeah, it's nice. We barely got to know each other. Oh, God. I can't see it and I'm riveted. I know where you keep your gun. Wink.

It didn't have. He didn't want. Something. True. How did you die? Your contact? Not well. Look, it's even in the caption.

It says not well. Okay, all right. How do you get in a well? Because it sounds like it. It sounds like it. I apologize. But I'm going to always think of it like that. In a well.

What? Oh, I love it. So, you're. In a well. You had assumed... That's the title of this episode, right? Yeah, I guess so. I thought because it was a bathroom.

But even that kind of doesn't make sense either. It could be a British thing. Because water. No, I thought he was trying to make it more dramatic. Oh, like he was lying saying I pushed him down a well. Yeah, like some...

No, not even that being like, instead of saying like, I killed him in a bathroom, he was like, in a well, because there's water. Whoa, baby Jessica style. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. Wow. I can't believe that you love this movie so much,

and the fourth line of it, you got... It's in a well. There's probably other ones. You need to go home and watch captions on. No, no, no, you don't want me to go home and watch this movie because I'll be out for days. Although, like, yeah, he does suffocate him in a sink or drown him in a sink. Thank you.

I see her logic. Thank you. I think that line may have been the better choice. Thank you very much. Do you? In a well, yes. That's hilarious. You guys, just take this in.

All right. So immediately, we're seeing a brutal sort of James Bond. We're seeing a physically dominating James Bond that will just throw you through a bathroom stall and drown you in a well. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Then this song starts. Hang on, let me bring this up. Oh, God.

Well, let's talk about this gun barrel sequence, which I think is amazing. Yes. It's such a great way to do it. Is that when his eyes come to life? Oh, not yet. Not yet. But up until now, every James Bond movie starts with the gun barrel sequence. Then they do the cold open scene.

Then they do the credits. So this one does the cold open scene, and then it ends with the gun barrel because the guy draws it. But actually making it part of the action. Yeah, they make it part of the action, which had never been done before. Usually it's just like a graphic thing of like a gun barrel goes across the screen, He's just walking and shoots into it. It's like a style thing.

But doesn't Skyfall does that, right? It doesn't. No. It does it at the end. And so does Quantum of Solis. Yeah, he's never had a traditional start. Yeah. That's how different this game is.

Wow. That's all right. Yeah. Yeah, so then we start this Chris Cornell song, which you like. I do. I love it. You like? I like it, yeah.

Amanda looks, I don't care for it. Oh, really? I don't like it. You don't even like when he goes, the games that we have when he does that with his voice? I do. I love that part. You don't know. You know what part of I'm talking about?

Part of the reason I love this is, I've said this before, is that it was co-written with the composer of the movie, so the themes of the song are throughout the entire movie. I do like the callback and the score. I do like that. Lather. But this is just weird. I feel like it's a new type of Bond movie.

I'm ready for a slightly different Bond song, but it's got the horns in there. And the graphics are un-packable. When they move over the Queen of Hearts and his Vespers' face. Oh, yeah. Which the, the, you know, which the, took the title design from the cover of the first edition of Casino Raia.

I don't think I realize that. I'd love it even more. Yeah, if you want to look. And there's no women's silhouettes in the beginning sequence. There's only one woman in this movie. Well, and then there's some, but I noticed on the DVD menu, there's some sexy ladies. But none in the opening sequence.

It's interesting. You were just looking at, the TV was off, you're looking at your reflection. I was dancing. I do really like the look of this title design. I think last week I might have said I didn't enjoy it. You did. I think you said it looked very computery or something. Upon reflection.

I see, it is very computery. It's very flash animation. It's very Apple. Like it looks like it's like part of iTunes. But I like it. I just like how subtly the patterns in the background are all slightly morphing the entire time. And there's something. Oh, yeah.

I will say the song isn't a standout for me. I think it works well in the movie. and I enjoy it, but it's not, you know, it's no Adele. It's no skyfall. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. It's probably not one of the classics.

Independent of the movie, I don't think I'd listen to it. I would, and I have, and I'm listening to it currently, but I think that it has set the tone really well. Yes. The movie. You can't use a slow song here. You can't use like a slow, jazzy tune. You need something that's going to pump us up because our blood is pumping.

I love the. sentiment too you know my name it really has nothing to do with the movie but that's kind of what a good bond song is it's just thematically tied and they're here they're saying like I'm a different guy this time but you know who I am and you know I'm a badass and you know my name and he does give

his name away very frequently in this movie yeah more so yeah and to Vesper's she doesn't like it but he's going to do it anyway I can't wait till we get to that scene on the plane it's not a plane girl it's a very bourgeois train oh that's a train

Yeah, they show it. It's a European train. She thinks that was a plane on track. She just assumed someone else was arriving at a train. I think I've had planes and trains mixed up all these years. His wife was dead the whole time. That's a plane, trains, and automobiles. All right.

So, great. We enjoy that. Then we made our villain. Le Schif. The Schiff. The Schiff. Who looks like a Bond villain. should look.

He could be a Bond himself. No, he could not. If Bond was an uggot. I find this man charming in a, no charm, but I find him kind of attractive. No. You guys don't see?

No. I think he's got really nice hair. I find him sexy. Yeah. He's got these chiseled lips. Do you guys watch Hannibal? No, I know he is Hannibal. We haven't seen it. Well, listen, I think that the eye thing is very creepy.

Yes. And then it starts bleeding. He cries blood. Nothing's in. Nothing's sitting. Nothing's in. What does that, what does that mean? He's, he's, he's being charming.

He's saying, don't freak out. I'm just crying. Yeah, so then we see, Mr. White is in the scene as well. Yeah. All of this scene shot on the Pinewood lot, and they brought in red-looking mud to make it look like Africa.

And they did a great job. Didn't they? I thought it was Africa the whole time. Movie? Magic. Done by Peter Lamont, who was one of the holdovers from the, like,

second half of the Bond movies. He was basically the production designer that took over from Ken Adam and this is his last movie I think, last Bond movie. Yeah. So that's like you got some classic bond in here still. And they're all sweating so much in that scene. It's crazy. They must have been doused in water.

Yeah. Or they just were like we're not going to powder you guys just. No way. If it was done in English, it was done in England you said. No way. Wow. England has hot days. No way. No way. Not hot enough. No way. Not hot enough. Sweat.

So then we go to Madagascar where we meet James Bond, now a double-O agent. Stop touching your ear. Which he does in Skyfall. He says the same exact thing to MoneyPenny. Yes, he does. Oh, right. He's got a thing about that. He's got a thing about that.

What else are we talking about it? That's in something else, too, that don't touch your ear. I don't remember. I mean, that other agent's an idiot. Carter, I had this written down. Carter is the least competent MI6 agent I've ever seen. And I've seen some bozos. I feel like Carter's up, we don't know what happened to Ronson in Skyfall,

but there's always this disposable second tier double O or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But there's this section of notes on my pad that Amanda had me keep. And they're some of my favorite. So the first one is, that snake party looks fun. So it's a snake fighting a mongers. The classic animal fight. Can I just run you through these really quickly?

Yeah, please. That snake pit party looks fun. Mathis looks like a hedgehog. He does. Why are the dealers wearing those tacky vests? I had a note about that as well. They are. And then a legitimate note about you okay, but we'll get to that.

That's such a good moment. Oh, God. Amanda. I forget the moment. Oh, how could you? We'll get to it. Okay, okay. Oh, my God.

But let's talk about this. This is something we've never really seen before from a James Bond movie, which is a chase on foot for a long period of time. Yeah, that's true, right? Did you like it or not like it? You went, oh, and the chase on foot, I loved it. It's amazing. It's sort of the, it's sort of the, in the James Bond tradition of introducing new sports to the American and international community.

Anything that's popular, like extreme sports was somehow. Yeah, like hellas. Like ham-fistedly gets put into a, like, a Bond movie, but this one somehow. What's it called? Parkour. Parkour, yeah. I think it works because Bond is the counterpoint to it of, like, you know, you can be all-fisted. fancy with that parkour and I'm just going to just ram through everything and it kind of takes the

piss out of it. I think it really, really works well. Yeah. And it's, I think it's the best. I think that chase is so good. And they did it. They, that was all real. Like there was no, wow. They didn't, they didn't go that high up on the crane. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. And they have wires attached to them. Oh my God. And they did those jumps for real and just painted the wires out. Yeah. This is why I get so pissed about motorcycle head in Skyfall. I'm sorry. Let it go, man. The motorcycles is like all CG. And if they can. jump from a crane that hide. Well, it was 06, you know, the laws weren't the same.

Yeah, well, that's how we'll explain it. I mean, I even want to go through every element of this damn parkour chase. Well, the guy he's running against is like one of the two founders of parkour. I don't know you could found a sport, but I guess you can. Someone's got to do it. That's right. I'm surprised there's never, like, in the 70s, there was no extended skateboard chase, you know, with like That would be good.

Skateboarding's new. Get on it. I know, because they would have done it in a camp way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it would have been fun chasing some kids through a pool. They tried to do a magic carpet ride with Timothy Dalton. They sure did. Wait, what?

That's crazy. There's a cut scene where there's a chase and he's in like, where are they? Afghanistan, right? Yeah. Right? Wait, did they cut that? I feel like it's in the deleted scenes. And so there's telephone wires and it's like very Middle Eastern and he throws a carpet on top of the telephone line.

Yeah, it slides down. He slides down. Like, the carpet's all stiff, and it's supposed to be like a magic carpet ride joke. But it was so campy that they had to cut it. I love a good magic carpet ride joke, though. I remember that as being in the movie. It's not. It's on all the special features.

Okay, so the parkour thing really, really is spectacular. I know we've said it a thousand times, but we'll say it again. And he has so little regard for human life. He's dropping those tubes down to the workers. Those shit exploding. I really love his knowledge of pulleys. If I do this, I will go up. Yeah.

I would be like, what do I do? It's so good. That whole, yeah, and they are 400 feet up or something, like a 200 feet up. That's insane. You know what I always found weird, though, was at the end when the ambassador comes out, and he's like, listen to me. You know, well. No, but isn't it weird how he says that? No, wait, you're doing it again.

What does he say? He says, like, Lisa Thumbay, he's speaking in his... On no way. Yeah. There's a feature on DVDs. It's called subtitle. I thought he said, listen to me. That's why I thought it was...

Wait, are you sure? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I know. I always thought that was the weirdest... I always thought it was the weirdest line reading because he's going, listen to me. Well, it's his second language, English, so... I know, but it was just so weird.

Like, first of all, why would he say that? Now, this is at the embassy. This is after everything's... When he's... Right before he blows everybody up, right? He rides after he takes him off the roof. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and take a look. By the way, him breaking into the embassy, so cool.

Yeah. Oh, it's great. All right, it's going to be... We're going to have some action happening here. Just throwing the guy out. Do we know how long it took them to film this whole sequence? They did it first. Here we go.

Here we go. Let's get to be. Yeah. He's speaking... French. What a weird? Do you hear listening to me? Maybe it's French for listen to me.

It may, well, he's saying, Lééééé fare, like, let him go, I think he's saying. This actually makes more sense because that line always freaked me out, and I was always like, why? So this is actually answering a big question. I'm pretty sure he's saying let him go. I'm glad that we... Listen to me. And then he doesn't say anything. All this time, I've just wanted to talk to you.

Let's be friends. Jesus Christ, man. I like what you do. I run an embassy. Let's be butts. We're not so different, you and me. Let's say don't be. You hit my head against a statue, I forgive.

We hang out. Okay, so Bond blows up the embassy. Then the front page of the paper. Front page of the paper. Yeah. How they know it's a British agent is the part that confuses me. Because he doesn't keep anything under wraps.

If we learn one thing about this bond is that he's reckless. Yeah, but he doesn't like turn to the camera, the security camera go, British agent. Do these guys know and they let it out? He kills all of them. They know it's bad. Oh, yeah. He doesn't kill them, though.

They just fall, right? Like, they don't die. No, because they do get up after and kind of. They look at him like, who was that man? Oh, like the scene of letting you know the dog was all right in any movie? Oh, yeah. Particularly in true lies when he slams the Dobermans together and then the dog shake it off.

Yeah. So who does tell that he was... That's a good question. We don't know. I don't know. I find that to be a... It's probably Mathis. That hedgehog.

Mathis was never... Anyway. Poor Mathis. I know he's only... Everyone's against him. I love them. Okay, so the... I love this.

This is where we see M. For the first time. We're seeing Judy Dench in this, and she is doing one of the all-time great walk-and-talks. Yeah. No kidding. She says, in the old days, if an agent did something like,

Something that embarrassing, he'd have the decency to defect. Yeah. Christ, I miss the Cold War. Boom. Love it. And then she calls him a prig. Who does she do, those bureaucrats? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They use the word, they say, like, if you're bent, prig, they use all these great English colloquialisms that the other movies just do, like, the classic. Like, oh, blimey. Yeah. So now we see, this whole thing is happening. Meanwhile, James Bond needs a computer. So where does he go for a computer?

M's laptop. M's laptop in her home. He's so, he's like, he's, he's so egotistical. He is. Yeah. And he definitely needs to be brought down, which he does eventually. But like, man, oh man, does he have. You can't stay mad at that guy.

No, you can't stay mad at him, but boy, is he taken over. You hate to love him. Well, she says that she may have made a mistake promoting him too early, and then he says that they have a, your mistake will be sure. short-lived. Double O's have a short life. Yeah, he just thinks he's going to die. And then Judy Dench comes back with another great Judy

Dench line where she says that arrogance and self-awareness rarely go together. And I'm like, that's a brilliant. But what does that explain that? It's that someone who is so arrogant is never self-aware, whereas

James Bond is arrogant and aware of his life, his situation, and how arrogant to you. So what does that mean? Does that mean that he's really not that arrogant or does that mean that he's just careless? I think it a different way. I thought she was saying you're so arrogant you don't have self-awareness.

Oh, I'm saying that he's so self-aware because he's aware of how short life expectancy is of a double-o-age agent. He's aware he's probably going to die. So he was, so what she's saying is that he's not what he's making himself out to be. I feel like what she is saying is that he needs to, like he is so rare in that he is self-aware. and so arrogant.

But she's not complimenting him. She's like talking him down. Well, she's saying to him, if you're going to be good at this job, you've got to lose one of those things. Well, yeah, because he says, you want me to be half monk, half hitman. Yeah. And that's not realistic. I got to be all blunt instrument. Yeah.

That's kind of what he's saying. And then they just have this little banter, too. And he has that line. I always thought M was a randomly assigned. Yeah. So I know from the novels that M's real name is Miles Messervie. You didn't want to know. We don't know what her name is.

We don't know what her name is. We don't know what her. It could be Miles. We do. I think it's on the box. What do you mean? That's right. That's right. Are you serious? What do you mean? You don't know what her name is. Is there a different M? Well, originally the M is a man. So the original M is named Miles Messervey.

Wait, what box? The Skyfall. With a dog. Oh my gosh. What is it? You guys don't know? I can find out right now. Marvelous. Her name is just marvelous messerby Mary?

Pick it up, man. It might be Mary. Is it Mary? That sounds familiar. I know I've seen it somewhere. She's married too, isn't she? Yeah, because that was her husband. And when she gets that call, he just kind of rolls over.

I like to think he's like a florist. Yeah. And like that big computer she has at her bedside? Give me one, right? That's crazy. Give me one. Oh, gosh. Hang on.

She's a great, like I would want M as my boss because you respect her, but you're also very, like, you love her. Oh, she's great. Her name, do we want to know her name? Yes. Her name is Olivia Mansfield. Oh, so it's her last name. Wow.

But why would she be so embarrassed about that? Well, she just doesn't want her name to be known. Like it's supposed to be a name. Even he shouldn't know her name. Oh. Wow. And can I ask a quick question? Who's the guy that's her, like, secretary?

That's Ronson. He's a nice guy. Well, you'd like my friend Jesse Dean, because I always joke about this, that he looks just like that guy. Because when he calls trying to talk to M when he's at the airport, and he's like, can you hold for a minute? Yeah. He's in Game of Thrones, and he's like this big guy in Game of Thrones. Yeah. He put on some bulk?

He was also in Rome. Vacation? He played, no, in the series Rome. He plays Brutus, right? Sounds right. Yeah. All right, I'll go with you, and that. But why isn't he in quantum of solace?

He's got such a nice face. Yeah, I like them too. But I do like, here's what she says, which I think is fun. She says, don't ever break it to my house again. But then he does in Skyfall. That's right. They now establish this thing where she can have all plausible deniability. She says, go stick your head in the sand, like take a leave of absence.

But she knows when she sees the laptop that he's going to work. And he left the laptop open deliberately. Yeah, to let her know. And all she has to do is say, I know he's going to work, I need to stop him, that's my job, but she doesn't. She lets him go. And all she has to say is, I didn't know, but she wants him to do it. She has a hunch. Because she knows he is him.

I wish more people were as smart as these two people. In the world? Sure. That would be a fantastic thing. Like, that were on the same wavelength. I think Amanda and I have a little bit of this. You could leave your computer open and I'd go, well, I know she wants me to buy this cat ring. Yeah, yeah.

Do you think that you're more M and I'm more James Bond? I don't know. I think that's something that other people are going to have to decide. You guys are more Mr. Wint and Mr. Kitt. Excuse me. So, go ahead. No, you go ahead. Well, I don't know if this is the time to get into it, but it'll come up at some point.

Okay, so we go to the Bahamas, everybody. Hell yeah, we go. When do we go, guys? Huh? Come on. But I would like to point out that when you bought the DVD, you could win a trip. Yeah, I remember that. I don't remember it.

To the very place that he lands in front of, Atlantis. And he shows up in a... I think the worst product placement of the entire series. The Ford Fiesta? I disagree with you that it's the worst. Because that makes sense for a rental car that he would be able to get into Bahamas. But don't you think he...

I mean, if he's going to rent that room he rents... Yeah, but he's like... They're like, I'm sorry, so we let the last Mercedes go. I'm going to like, all right, give me the fold. That's what he would say. It just seems so... out of place. Well, he doesn't, he doesn't choose that room.

They say the only room they have left is like a waterside villa or something like. That's perfect. That's true. Perfect. Okay, so this is where the most Roger Moore thing I've seen Daniel Craig do, which is the range rover. Oh, I love this. Oh, my God. He looks so good in that white shirt tucked in.

Oh, my God. Honestly, I'm going to say this right now, and I'll bring it up later, because there's a scene that knocks my socks off. But the his, the way that his clothes, the way that his clothes fit in this movie are nuts. It's nuts. Like, I've never seen clothes tailored that well. Yeah, it's true. Well, they probably have, like, the best tailor in the world. I mean, but I've seen, like.

Tom Ford, right? He tailored them as well? No, this is, this is, this is, this is a holdover from the bras and. which is the briozzi suits. You know what I love about us? What's that? We just complicate because I didn't know that and you know that. Like we cover each other's blind.

We know what's happening. We are together. Yeah. We are like M. and James Bond. Yeah. But I will say this, his clothes are impeccable. Vesper's clothes are, they leave something to be desired. Really?

Yes. Well, from a female perspective. They are not. They could have been so much better. Her dresses are jaw-dropping on her feet. figure. But they're not cute. They're not cute dresses. Well, I will, the women are dressed by men in this movie. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're very figure fluttering. I can tell you at risk of, um, worrying about the theme of our last podcast episode.

If they're, she's dressed by men. I mean, it works for me. I know, but I just feel they, they, they, they don't as a, as a, as a, like in my opinion, the style of her dresses and also the style of her makeup when they, they put such heavy makeup on her. She does have a heavy makeup on. That I just feel like didn't do a great job. I agree with that. She looks so beautiful in the mirror when she doesn't have makeup on. It should have been, yeah, I think like she's getting into the territory of that Bond girl from Skyfall, that Asian one.

Yeah, a sex woman. Yeah, a sex woman where she should have, it should have been more, a little more natural. I agree. Yeah, because she has such dark eyes and then they put such red lips on her. It just, it was too much. I remember, I remember that really. And the dresses are almost trashy. Yes.

That's exactly right. They're promis. You know, but his casual clothes are almost dushy. Yeah. No, it's true. Well, they are. They have a sheen. A sheen.

We're seven years out. Seven years out. I don't know. I don't know. No. His clothes are dushy? Not duchy. Well, those shimmery pants he's wearing in the shirt that's a little sheer.

It's verging on, I mean, he pulls it off because he's all man. But. Boom. Yeah. A lesser man would look like, you know. Yeah. Wrong. Yeah.

Well, let's talk about some of my favorite clothing in the movie, which is the outfit worn by Mr. Demetrios. Oh, amazing. I know. I would consider that. Is that the shirt and his shirt is unbuttoned, right? Yeah, shirts on button, he has a pattern shirt with a vest from a three-piece suit. Oh, yeah. And he has a coat to go along with it.

He doesn't put it on, but, yeah. Oh, yeah. So we meet Demetrios through the security footage, and we see that Demetrius is driving the 1964, Aston Martin, DB5, from Goldfinger. This is a classic bone car. This is the classic bond car. And this tells us how he gets it, which we never knew before. Well, from Q, we got to.

Disagree. Amanda, if you ever make millions, which you will, I'm sure, are off something, you should buy him that car. Oh, my God. What would you do if you woke up, like, birthday morning, and you walked outside and you had the Aston Martin sitting outside? Before you answer this. Yeah. Is there a car you would rather have?

I can't imagine. How about that little green convertible? When does he drive that? Doesn't someone have a little green, like forest green, cute car? Maybe it's Skyfall. She's just going to buy the Rangerover. Oh, he has a, oh, there's the BMW in Die another day that convertible green BMW that... That's in Goldfinger.

But I thought the... The Z-4? I thought the main bond car was the one he gets in Skyfall. The Z-4. Isn't there? Doesn't he get one in Skyfall? rifle and everyone's like, yeah. Here's where Matt and I disagree.

This is something Matt and I disagree about. Maybe you can settle it. I think that James Bond owns two Aston Martin DB5s. I don't know where you get off. I think he owns the one that he just won in this poker game, and I think he owns the one that is given to him for

the Goldfinger mission. He didn't buy two. He won one in a poker game and was given one by Q. And you're saying this is the one, we see the origin of this car. They go to such great pains to establish a him getting it. This is not the, no. I mean, that's just a little thing for the fans. But in Skyfold, does he, what's the look on his face when they open the garage and he sees the car? What is it of like, oh my God, this is a new car or is it, this is my car. It's like this is my car.

Get in. But my thought is, because he always, here's the deal. The character James Bond, what kind of car does he drive in the books? A Bentley. Correct. All right. He drives a big ass green Bentley. And in, from Russia with love, he has a red Benley. And in, from Russia with Love, he has a red Bentley with a phone in it. Next movie, he has to go down to the quartermaster. This is Goldfinger, where he is given

an Astor Martin, which he is disappointed by initially because he wants to know where his Bentley is. And then Q goes, I'm afraid it's had it's a day. This is the Astrid Martin DB5, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, I think personally, James Bond has a Bentley.

Then he gets this Goldfinger thing on this mission, And in this movie, he wins one that he leaves in Bermuda. See, that seems like a longer leap. I mean, how does he ship it back? Well, if you won a 1964, Aston Martin, wouldn't you ship it back home? But he's also James Bond.

Like, does he get on the phone with someone? Yeah, who does he call? Absolutely. He calls his people. But also, too, I think there would be a little bit of pride of, like, I took this guy down. He put his car on the thing. This is, it's his trophy.

Yeah. I think maybe he gives it to an orphan or something. What? I like this. Because he was an orphan himself. Yes. What do you guys think? Email us.

Oh, yeah. We were like weeks behind. James Bonding. People will Twitter and email. And we're getting stuff now about my bad Australian accent. Which is kind of, that's the joke, I guess. Yeah, that it's bad. And then we were doing in New Zealand.

We were making references to Australia. Yeah. Talking about New Zealand. But I understand where you're coming from, people. I want to look up the Kelly Blue Book value of an Asked 964 SMR. Would you? What would you do, though, Matt, if you saw that in the driveway? Would you fall to your knees?

I don't know what I'd do. I mean... You'd call me. Yeah, I would go for a ride. I mean... Would you like to drive that? Is that something you'd like to do? I would feel a little silly driving it around.

Absolutely. But not if you were millionaires. Yeah. Well, but the other thing is if it was given to me and I didn't buy... I would feel weirder if I bought it. If it was given to me, like the weekend car drives we would take. Oh, it would be our fun car. In the fall.

I have had a, and this is. And the machine guns. This is a weird thing. Since the year, I would say probably 2000, three or four, I've had a recurring dream of on a fall day, when the leaves have fallen, I go to an Aston Martin dealership and buy an Aston Martin and then drive it. Jeez, fall day. Yeah.

And then I watch the, yeah. And then I watched the nice crisp morning. What a beautiful dream. How do I get in on that? You can have it. Just think about it. You'll have it. You're luckier than most people just to have that dream.

To have dreams. Can I say something, though? This may be a little sacrilegious. I like the two Aston Martins later better, the Honor Magic's Secret Service, and I love the Living Daylights. That's a beautiful, that's a beautiful Aston Marlins. Like gun metal, dark gun metal.

Does anyone drive Aston Martin? So you never see one. I see them. I see them. a lot now driven by duchy Persian kids. They're either painted matte black or bright yellow. But that Ashton Martin he has in the second Ashton Martin Casino Real, his other car that he rolls, that's what a new Aston Martin looks like. Okay, so here's what this would cost you to purchase this Ashton Martin.

Okay, sure. Let's hear it. $4 million. $698,600. Is that the bond one specifically or just a... That's crazy. Yeah, no, that's the bond one. And how much is like a Honda?

Yeah, no. That's crazy. Wait, but a Bentley is like $400,000, right? This is the bond. Oh, okay. Yeah, so the DePont Registry pay a slight premium for the privilege of not dealing with an auctioneer, though,

while the auctioned DB5 sold for $4.61 million, including the buyer's premium, this Aston carries a price tag of $4.69 million. Can you not get it anywhere else? Is it this one of a car? Well, these cars, yeah. Because there's an exhibition model. Yeah, there's a couple that they tricked out to be the James Bond cars.

Like touring cars. I love it. So, yeah. But you can get a, I think you can get an Aston Martin DB5, a plain Jane. Yeah. For a two million. But who would want that? Can you imagine that?

That's the thing. I can't imagine this movie. They had a budget. They're like, okay, we got our budget. Oh, wait, we're doing it. Ascent Martin, or add four million dollars to that budget. No, no, here's how this works. As far as I'm concerned.

Oh, we need an Ashton Martin DB4. Let's look and see who owns one. Hey, can we use your Ashton Martin? Oh, who's this? Oh, it's the James Bond movie? Yeah. That's why I bought it. Of course you can use it. Thanks for shoving the price through the roof next time I sell it. Anyway, guys.

Can I just actually ask a little bit about something in this movie here? This whole thing is predicated. on the fact that La Schiefer short sales stocks. He short sells stocks. I don't fully... I remember reading into that one time. On 9-11, somebody made a fortune.

Yeah. No, that's not what they said. Thanks. That's not what they said. Yes, it is what she said. I'm not in heaven. No, it's not. Let's watch Wheel of Fortune.

You do not... You almost got me to do a sweet thing, which would have been bad for the table. No, yeah, so short selling a stock. it's kind of like taking it's kind of like betting points on a football game or a basketball game

or the over under. So let's say you know this weekend's game Patriots Tampa Bay we'll say the over under is probably like 38 points. So what they're saying is we think that this is going to be 38 points. You can bet

that it's going to be under 38 points. You can bet that it's going to be under 38 points. on this day or you can bet that it's going to be over 38 points this day. So what he's doing is betting the under. So he's short-selling. Oh, so then with like the airplane, which is supposed to be this huge new thing. Yeah, and everybody's like, well, this is going to be more than they. It would be like with Facebook going, like, I'm going to put all my money into this.

But he takes all of his money. Or what is he bets under? He bets that it's going to be under because he's going to blow it up and sabotage the whole thing. Okay. But isn't that so easy to spot? Like, wouldn't... You'd think, yeah, you'd go right to the people that invested heavily in it failing. Yeah.

Did that really happen on 9-11 where people saying, like, American Airlines, they, like, they bet under for American Airlines? Who? Wait, what? How? Seriously, that's not just a truth or anything? No, that's not just a... But how did they know? Well, they just happened to think maybe airlines weren't going to be doing so great after around then.

Right, or they knew. Well, Halliburton. I'm just saying... No, I think we're missing. I'm just saying... burying the leader, Le Schief. Right. Is real.

Yes, yes, yes. God. As established by the documentary Casino Royale. And he paid, he gets the money from the Madagascar people. Yeah. And so that when the plane blows up, then they go nuts. So that's why the Madagascar people and Quantum both come, because he's dealing with both of their money. Yeah, like, Quantum is the agent that set them up.

And when this guy screwed with their money, Quantum's like, our reputation matters too much. You can't fuck with it. this and then that's why quantum comes in at the boat. He had every right to be as mad as he was because Le Schiff. Oh, why? Oh, yeah. Because he lost all that money and he's going to get killed. Well, once I understand, I never really fully understood that kind of story what Le Schiff's

business was. And so last night watching it with that knowledge, once Matt explained it, I felt sympathy for him. Well, yeah, I mean, it was bad what he did, but like, oh, my God. Like, he's really panicking and he's just trying to. to win it back in a poker tournament. After investing terrorists' money into a stock that will

depend on a major airline blowing up. Yeah. Wait, no, it... Oh, that's right. Yes, got it. Yeah. We don't feel as bad. Because Bond foils the airline explosion,

he loses all that money. Guys, we have yet to discuss... Demetrius' wife riding a horse on the beach. Why not? Which I think is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in a James Bond movie. Do you think they meant it to be, though?

Do you think they were going like? No, I think they're going, look at how beautiful this is. Yeah. That should only exist in a romance novel cover. It really does look like, yeah, like a harlequin romance. And then she, like, gets off the horse, and doesn't she, like, put her face next to it? Yeah. And then looks over at the...

That's her, that's her Bentley, you know. And he's, this is right when he's coming out of the water, Ursula andra's style. And can we talk about those speedos? Let's talk about it. Or those little swim shorts? I like it. They're like the boxer briefs of... They look good.

There is a theme running through these movies about powder blue. So in Goldfinger he has. Oh, I was going to say just for Daniel Craig. His eyes. His eyes, but his trunks, his robe when he's convalescing in Italy, it's always powder blue. I don't know what they're going with there, but I'm on to him. Because he's got blue blood. Must be.

But he doesn't, he tries to powder it to stop from shining. Matt. Yeah. Let's go on vacation to Golden Eye. because you can stay there. How much is it? I looked up how much it is to stay at that room that they stay in in Casino Real.

It's like $11,000 a night. Okay, well, let's just do one night. That's easy. Is that for a waterside bungalow? It's the bungalow that he's in in that movie. How much is Goldenham? What do you want? Do you want a one-bedroom villa, a lagoon cottage, two-bedroom villa, or the Fleming Villa.

Let's do the Fleming. All right, let's all go. We're going to take a look. Where is Golden Island? Jamaica. Jamaica. It's where a Fleming Row all here. It was his home as a state where he wrote all.

The 007. The 007 master bedroom, the 009 bedroom, the 208 bedroom. 64 inch television's going to be there, guys. Complementary Wi-Fi. So think about the money we're saving on that. Well, to watch Bond movies on Netflix. Fully stocked wet bar. Of course there is.

I just said, I'm clicking for a reddish. I'm just, you don't know that part of me is like, what if this is affordable? I mean, that's another thing you'd have to get for him. Oh, my gosh. I gotta do some things for you. What's a good time? No, you don't. Guys, what's a good time for us all to go to Goldenite?

I can't afford it. To be honest. How much? We don't know how much. I can't afford it. Well, you're AAA? We're going to go January 20th, okay? All right.

And we're going to, yeah, till the, okay, January 2nd. Oh, right after New Year's. You guys are going to be out of town, though, aren't you? Well, we can change that. There's no availability that week. Oh, that's good. Someone's got it booked. Go there.

Someone does. All right, let's just do one night. There's four of us, right? Yeah, we'll all split it. One room? Katie's coming, okay? There's five of us now. Continue.

I don't continue. I didn't know you could stay at the Golden Eye Villa. Zero? Oh, it's not available. I want to see rooms and rates. Let's give him a call. Oh, maybe it's five adults. Let's Ryan Moses.

Pick up the plot of the movie. Right now, we have just met What's Her Face, and I believe Bond And Bond's going to follow somebody to Miami. She weirds me out. Solange. Now, the scene where they go to the bungalow after he wins the poker game. By the way, the dealer on that poker game was not an actor.

She was real. She looked like a bitch. She was like, okay. And those people sitting around that table are all like in some way related to our friends of the broccoli. Or the cubby broccoli family. The woman at the table was in Thunderball at the night scene where, Fiona gets shot, you know, in that outdoor dancing scene. She was like a beautiful...

That's right. She's a beautiful model. And she's in that scene. Anyway, so they go to the bungalow. And I've heard there's a deleted scene, or at least, like, the scene starts earlier where he's going down on her. And she, like, it starts with her having an orgasm and they had to cut it. Why did they have to cut that?

Because it was improvised. But I like it, not obviously for the, like, titillation, but this is the first bond that is just, you know, like, he's going to please his lady. You know, usually it's more like he just has to have sex with her and magically she's so satisfied, you know. Oh, yeah, I like that. This bond loves women. He does.

He's not, like, well, he does, and he does and he does him, but he, but he, like, love that. Well, and then when he goes and orders the champagne and caviar, and he says, no, for one. No, but then he's, what's so funny is he's on the phone and he's kind of distracted, and he goes, what? No, for one. Like, like, he gets. gets really angry. He goes, what? No, for one. So then we go to Miami. He follows Demetrios to Miami. Miami's going to meet the new person

that will blow up this plane because originally it was going to be the parkour guy. It was. That was why Elypsis was the password that he had sent that bomb maker, which is the key to get into the security of the airport. This whole airport scene was shot at the Dunsfold Arrow Dome, which is where they shoot top gear. It's the top gear track. Oh, wow.

I know you don't find that interesting, but our listeners will probably find that interesting. I find it interesting that our listeners will find it interesting. And the bodies exhibit was very big. Yes. This is one thing, though, that does get me a little bit about it. This reminds me. Whatever is popular, let's play it in. It feels a little bit of like...

This feels exactly like Circus, Circus being in the Diamonds are Forever. Yeah. I wrote that down. Or like a jet ski. There's a jet ski in Spy Who Love Me, but it's like the prototype jet ski. It looks like a... like a copy, like a Xerox office copier on skis. And they can't do an action sequence because it's just an old jet ski.

So it's like, how are you going to get from the sub to that sea fortress? And then they just show him. And he just, yeah, so it is a little bit of a novelty. But it's a pretty cool, tense little knife thing that they have. Oh, yeah, I like that knife thing. And then he kills him so quickly with such ease. Yeah. Well, my initial thought when he goes, look over there.

I'm like, how would he fall for that? But then you think the guys, like, they're almost like working together to fight. Like, we don't want to get caught. And the guy kind of believes him like, oh, I should, like, yeah, we should tone it down. I would fall for it, for sure. Oh, and then he gives it to him. Mm-hmm.

Then he follows the terrorist to the Miami airport, and there's a bit of a cat and mouse chase. And I always forget about this action scene when I think about Golden Eye. And it's a really good action scene. Golden Night? Oh, casino Royale. Sorry, I'm thinking of the other Martin Campbell movie. Right.

But the guy that he's chasing would make an amazing T-1000. He would, yeah, he's very stoic. Yeah. Yeah. So this action sequence is amazing. No CG, really. That car that the airplane flies by, that it throws it up in the air, that was all done real, except that the car was connected to a cable,

so it drove far enough that the cable extended and just snapped it back. Wow. But what I maybe don't get is why didn't he, once he got the ellipsis password from Demetrius, is that what his name is? Yeah. Okay. Why didn't he then call? He waits until he gets the airport to call him. Why didn't he call him then? And be able to. Because James is a very, very much, I'll do this. But he doesn't know he's going to the airport until he gets there. Yeah, but then he calls. Yeah.

But there's going to be a bomb. But then he's like, oh, I have a hunch on how to stop this. And then he's like, forget it. Sorry guys. It doesn't even feel like a pride thing. It just feels like, oh, I can get this done so much quicker than anyone. Yeah. The delight in his face after he attaches the explosive to the bad guy.

He loves it. He loves it. That was another moment where I was in. Are you talking about in the car when he does it or right before the guy blows up? Right when the guy blows up and he's going to. his face on the hood of that Miami police car. Yeah. And he's looking up and just a smile. But that's when he was like, this guy's a psychopath.

He's not, though. He's just, he's, he's, he. I love it. I mean, he is. He's not, though. You know, he's just, he, he didn't have much of a good, he didn't have a good upbringing. Well, he was a psychopath until, you know, he learns to love in this, in this episode. Oh, but that is that moment, yeah, where he gets.

He loves every second of it. Yeah. Good thing he's on our side, right guys? You guys are. amazingly different from our previous guests. The difference between these two episodes. I'm glad. I'm glad we had both.

I love the ends of the spectrum. I do too. I do too. I think it's great. Now, I do want to mention very quickly there is a cameo by the creepy German doctor who cuts everybody apart and makes those body exhibits. There is. Who's he? He walks by, he's showing everyone. I didn't know him walking by. I thought you were going to talk about Richard

Branson. No, no, no. There's obviously a rancet. But he's walks through, as James Bond's leaving, he's walking through with like a group of reporters explaining everything. All the reporters are body exhibit models, though. That guy is such a, that guy is so creepy. Have you guys seen the bodies exhibit in person?

I have. I have. I saw it in Vegas. It's the, it gave me the most uneasy feeling in my stomach. The worst ones are the ones that keep their hair and I mean all of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. I didn't notice that. Yeah. No, but I, you're just in your like, gym class. I used to, in my younger days, I worked my friends, my best friends owned a funeral home.

So I worked at the funeral home for four years. Wow. So I have been at the medical examiner's office with bodies wide open, you know, autopsy people. No problem, no problem, no problem. I've seen all kinds of dead people. I've had a woman's skin come off when I pulled her arm. But why? But why? Why? Why? She was dead for quite a while, but I didn't move her.

Anyway, it was very hot. You had to dig up her grave and work. All of this was hobby stuff. It wasn't... Yeah, I hadn't even... This wasn't even working at the funeral home. I'm a hobbyist in Balmer. But, but I will say,

I never got that feeling in the pit of my stomach until I went to the body work. Really? That's nuts. This is creepy. I was, like, all science. Like, this is amazing. Oh, I was creeped out by it.

Anyway, guys. Okay, here's the thing. We get the Ian Fleming Villa. Five bedrooms. Five bedrooms. Five bedrooms. Five bedrooms. Perfect.

Perfect. Perfect. Fleming Villa, okay? Here's the rates. If we want to go, November to December or December to January. Wait, we're staying for a month? This is the early, I'm saying this is the early time. We're looking at $6,600 a night. But think about this, five bedrooms. That's not bad. If we have ten couples, like if we have five couples.

I'd pay a grand to stay a night in the Flemingville. Yeah. Guys. Sounds like we may have. And you get free Wi-Fi. Yeah. Boom. That's... 300 at least right there in Jamaica. Because they have to fly that in. No, but I mean...

Why fly? But realistically, if we put this like a year out... Yeah. We could do a weekend. No, I would love to. Yeah. Jamaica, come on. Love it.

We'll go visit all the Living Let Die sites. Oh, oh. I'm going to have you toss me into a stack of redstripe boxes. I'm going to have you toss me into a coffin of snakes. I love it. I'm going to ride a horse. All right. One other thing I want to say about when he's in that bungalow with the girl,

this is something Bond has never done before. He puts the job before sex. And all the other movies is like, I've got time to just screw around first. Oh, really? I didn't know that. He could have stayed and done it with her, but he goes and he... And he gets mad about when someone asks the visitor, too.

I know. I know. That's interesting. I love that. All right. All right. So Miami situation's done. He gets it. done, he's happy about it.

He's got diagonal scars all over his face. And then mom comes back. Mom's here to visit one more time. Mom's like, I'm not happy with you. I'm putting this chip inside your arms so we can track you. That grosses me out. Yeah, it's pretty gross. The the scene I thought was

I mean, there's this overwhelming sense in the Daniel Craig Bond movies with M. And granted it's over a very short period of time as far as casino and quantum is concerned of of em yes she trusts

James Bond but she always threatens taking away his toys you have to though to rein someone like that in I mean she it's the mutualist man I mean she flat out puts a kill order on him right a capture capture kill yeah in Quantum of Solis yeah but I think she comes down there to kind of make sure that doesn't

happen basically I think that she knows she's the only one that knows how to handle him yeah and and I think that it's like it's like a mother son relationship in a lot of ways and I feet. Yeah, exactly. Because also in Skyfall, I mean, she's basically like, sorry, you died, we sold your home.

You can't stay here. Take a shower. Do you get out here? Get a job. It is. That is exactly what it is. It just occurred to me that Paul Haggis lives in Santa Monica. Oh, should we go to him?

I wonder if I can get him on here. Then I should... Shave. Anyway. Oh, we got to go shower. I want to know desperately. what is Purvis and Wade in the script and what is Hageus? See, Haggis says that he really only rewrote the climax.

That's surprising to me. Yeah. But again, let's have get him on. Okay, we have been doing this for an hour, and we have yet to introduce Vesperlind. I sized you up the moment I met you. She comes in late into the movie. I didn't realize. I think that's the second one.

Late into our... Oh, sure. Yeah. We don't have to. But the fact that Vesper immediately, they immediately just start psychologically or they just start analyzing each other based on their look. They just start telling each other. It's the let me guess scene.

Let me guess. I will say some of the stuff with Bond and Vesper is a little cutesy. Yeah, yeah. Especially when they, we'll get to it when they buy each other clothes. And it's like a, I don't know how to explain that. a romantic comedy. It's tailored. Yeah. Yes, the way he says that, he gets like,

yeah, he's so delighted. And then they're a dinner jackets and confused. And when they cut to the jacket on the bed, it's kind of like a scare. There's like a stature. Which I thought it was very funny. But they're, because they're meat, they match each other. That's what, I think that's what they're trying to show. And it is cutesy, but it is like, what else are you going to do?

You've got two people that have this have the same, like, stubbornness. the same, are in the same headspace. You have perfectly formed ass. Let's hear a little bit of that. You noticed. She does a good British accent, by the way. She does a very good. She's incredible.

She was always wanted for this film, and they kept holding her up, and she didn't get into the set, I think, until, like, the day before because they weren't convinced she could do a British accent. They had to be convinced. No French people, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, can do an accent other than French.

I mean, it's... Marianne Cotillard just talks like a baby, I know. She talks very slow, very, very slow. Oh my God, I never realized it. And it's hard to listen to. And I don't, it's just they don't have the same... They can't. I want to talk about for a second how Eva Green,

how crazy smart she is. Yeah. How crazy talented she is. She's a composer. She's a film composer. Wow. She knows, like, I don't know how many different languages. It's ridiculous.

ridiculous amount of languages. And she is beautiful. Big naturals. She scares me. She scares me a little bit. I'm intimidated by her. Oh, if I put me and her in her in a room and I seriously... You cower.

Yeah. Oh, me too. Are you kidding? I'm sure she's a sweetheart, but... I'd go for it. What do I get to lose? She'd love it. She's very sexually liberated.

I didn't see this movie, but she does an American accent in the Johnny Depp movie. Pirates of the Caribbean? No. Dark shadows. Yeah, it was great in that. Does she do a good American accent in it? She is very funny. She does an amazing American actress, and she plays kind of like ditsy in a way.

It blows my mind that she can do those accents because no French person can't. You hear a French person trying to do anything but French, and it's very like, it's shocking. Yeah. Want to hear them? Yeah. Yes. They are on that plane. That Tricier has a great to speak you in the game.

That loud. Boy, those engines are really chugging along. This is just some trouble. They're really close to the ground. Your boss must be well connected. I've never seen so much out of the door so quickly. Quite so stylishly. May I ask you where it is?

Ten million was wired to your account in Montenegro with a contingency for five more. By the way, can I say this really quickly? Yes. My dream after watching this movie was to go to Montenegro. I saw this movie and I went, I have to go. I have to go. So then it wasn't until like last year that because I had been just thinking in my head

It was last year that I went online and I started doing research on it and I started seeing that people were like no no no that's not Montenegro like Montenegro is not Nice no it's like the Serbian conflict right they were like this was all filmed in Prague yeah and so I was like oh my god That's mind-blowing because for years I was thinking that is my dream place the most beautiful place on earth if I would have gone I would step up Because you automatically think Monte Carlo, because it sounds so similar as a casino. And it's also a place that's been in Bonnese before, the French Riviere, you know. Yeah. But don't worry, we're going to the most beautiful place, the Ian Fleming Villa in Jamaica.

If you guys are serious about that, I don't know if I can afford it. I suppose you've given some thought to the notion that if you lose. Our government will have directly financed terrorism. His eyes are... That may be the only... The only CG they do in this movie. is enhance his eyes. No, they did don't.

They had to disenhance his face. To make his eyes stand out more? He was one of those in Johnson involved. Any of you seem to play with the best damn wind. So that will be what you call bluffing. They want to fuck right now. Yes. All over that train.

She doesn't. You play the man. She doesn't? She doesn't. She does. His perfectly formed ass? Oh, yes. She does.

She does not the first thing she does. What did? I think she said in that. Oh, first of all, can we, I'm going to say this because I'm not sure. When she goes, he goes, how is your, how is your lamb? I have that note. She goes, he goes, he goes skewered. And then he says unsympathizers.

Am I wrong with that? No, he went unsympathized ed. We got to look at it. I don't understand. This happened already? No, it's at the end. You don't think this is a very good plan, do you? Oh, he's so amazing.

I got the impression. This is also the most he talks in a movie, right? Probably. What else can you surmise Mr. Bond? About you, Miss Lynn? Here we go. I love how we could just tell. You worry you won't be taken seriously.

Which one can say of any attractive woman with half a brain? True, but this one overcompensates by wearing slightly masculine clothing. Boom. She doesn't do her hair herself. She gets it done. And ironically enough, makes it less likely for her to be accepted and promoted by her male superiors. We must take our insecurities for arrogance. Now, I'd have normally gone with only child, but, um...

You see, by the way, you ignored the quibble about your parents... I want this to happen to me in real life. Someone just size me up, just... It would feel so good. But get everything right? Uh-huh. Here she goes, ready? By the cut of your suit, you went to Oxford or wherever.

And actually think human beings dressed like that. But you were, it was such disdain. My guess is you didn't come from money. And your school friend... I disagree. Yeah, right. James Bond came. from money. Yeah, we know that. And he loves

wearing a suit. Yeah. That motherfucker will wear a collar. Well, she's an idiot. She's an idiot. Which means you were at that school by the grace of someone else's charity. Hence, it's going to be more different. And since you're first He's smart, she's an idiot, man, woman.

Oh, you are? Ooh. I'm getting to it. I like this poker thing. And that makes perfect sense. Since M.I. 6 looks for my adjusted young men. Give little thought to sacrificing others in order to protect Queen and Country. You know, former S-A-S-types with easy smiles and expensive watches.

This is the worst. Rolex. Amiga. Beautiful. There it is. Don't worry about it. They got to get their money somehow. Do you have an Amiga?

Yeah, I have B-WAT that is going to see. Oh, it's pretty great. But it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine. You think of women as disposable pleasures rather than meaningful pursuits. Yes. Me? He sure does. I will be keeping my eye on our government's money

and off you perfectly formed ours. You noticed. Even accountants had imagination. How was your lamb? Skewered. One sympathizes. Ah. Wait, what does he say?

One sympathizes. Good evening, Miss Lynn. Oh. Because she skewered him. Because she skewered him like with a penis. Like she emasculated him. Okay. That may be.

We've got a little too far. She emasculated him with her cutting wit. Well, yeah, he was skewered. That makes new sense to me now. I always thought he was blaming the lambs for being unsympathizers. I didn't know what that meant. One sympathizes. Skewered.

That means his lamb was overdone, overcooked. No, he's saying he got skewered like the lambs. No, but she says how was your lamb? and he says skewered. So does that mean that they were burnt? No, skewered like on a skewer. But she knows they were skewered if he had them right in front of her. No, he's not eating lamb off of a skewer.

Well, I think he probably ordered lamb and came on a skewer, yes. She's saying, how does it taste? He doesn't answer that. He says, it's been skewered. No, she said, how was your lamb? Yeah, and he says, skewered. He dodges the question. Instead, he chooses to give a metaphor.

To go with the wit. Okay. Yes. When do? I want to teach a semester-long class on Casino Royale, where you can talk so much about it. Study abroad, a study abroad, a semester abroad. We've already gone.

How long, Katie? Sorry, Katie. Hour 30, we are only one hour and two minutes into this movie. I got to put more money in the meter. In our defense, though, we knew that this one was going to be long. We knew it was going to be long. We knew what everybody was going to. And, Katie, if you need to leave, I can shut the recording down for you.

I know you've been here for 90 hours. Sorry, yeah. Okay. Guys, let's just first now, we have to talk about poker. What was popular in the early 2000s? Texas Holden's poker. Because you know why? Did you watch Celebrity Poker Showdown?

Which, no. Oh, my God. Did you watch anyone watch it? No. Kevin host that? Huh? It was Kevin Pollard. No, it was, what's his face from Kids in the Hall?

Dave Foley. Yes, he hosts it. And then they'd have really. great people on it like Bonnie Hunt and Matthew Perry and I remember the show, yeah. I loved that show like Michael Ian Black, I loved that show. Okay, yes. That was big.

Well, it's originally Baccarat. Yeah, it's originally Baccarat, but they said let's monitor it up for people. I understand that. Let's bring in the do-dos because I don't understand Baccarat. Even though somebody went to the length of explaining it to us on the nerdist page. That's right. But also they go to such pains to set Mathis and Vesper up

as like the Everyman and Exposition. Yeah, they're the commentary. chorus. But they're the game Kapler of this. They could have easily made it back around with all the amount of time they spent explaining Texas Hold'em

and the bond will have to go all in if he wishes to stay in the game. Again, she's an idiot because she doesn't know how it works. Yeah, she's not understanding poker. Okay, here's the deal. We meet Mathis. Mathis pulls a James Bond and just out in the open says,

I'm Mathis, I'm your contact here. I'm going to arrest the chief of police, which is... Michael G. Michael G. Wilson. We did it. Mathis confuses me a little bit. Now, a contact is someone that is like their, like, what's the job of a contact?

He's like the French special services person he's meeting with to help him. Like there's the CIA guy is there, Felix Leiter, the French guy. I guess he's supposed to be French. In the book, he's French, but is he? I think he is. Yeah. Yeah. His name is Renee Mathis.

Yeah, like he's just. stationed there, and he's the guy his contact to help him out. Okay. And then why are they arresting the chief of police? To get him out of the way, so they can go about doing what they need to do. Yeah. I mean, that's the... Because they think he's like...

The most lame in payroll. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that always... But that chief of police is the producer of the Bond films, and he's got a cameo in all of the movies. Yes. And it's really particularly fun. I think this one's his most annoying best cameo. Right.

Did people cheer in the audience? Nope. Maybe he does. He does. At the premiere, I don't know. We'd love to be invited to the premiere, Michael. Uh-huh. Please, if you're listening.

Yeah. If you haven't sued us yet. Okay. So, here's the deal. We've got to play poker. He's got to win the money. Now that the plane didn't blow up, Lechief has lost all the money,

shorting the stocks, and he's got to win it back. How does he win it back? A poker game where invites people to put in $10 million each with a $100 million dollar pot. And when we arrive at the poker table, It looks, everybody around that poker table looks like they came out of a CD-ROM game. Like, that is how you would expect computer designers to design a color of Benetton table.

You're right. Yeah. You're right. Absolutely. Let's have this big, fat black guy, older Asian lady, a creepy white guy. Okay, good, good, good. Up, and let's put him in a vest that also has cards on it. That's what she noticed. I think the dealer in the beginning was wearing that as well at the... They just

Wherever they were In the exotic location Well they tried actors For these dealers And eventually just went back to dealers Because they felt they Like no one could handle it as well as the deal Yeah because the dealer would just put his head down

Or her head down And just do it 10,000 14,000 Let's hear a little bit of the Of the bullshit This looks like a Tom Lennon character Let's just first say that

He's not a croupier But he's like the master of ceremonies This guy He's not quite a dealer He's like an enjoy the game 14,000 All in. C million.

Perse of $5 million can be made by electronic transfer. The money will remain in escrow until I return and the winner of the contest enters his or her password into the encryptor, where upon the entire sum will be one to any bank account in the world you nominate. Mr. Bond. We proceed alphabetically. Please be so kind as to enter a password of your choice.

V-E-S-P-E-R. That's the moment where she clicks and she goes, oh, he really loves me. When he just didn't immediately. But he doesn't put it in right here. We notice this. He doesn't use the...

He clicks like M. He does. No, he writes Vesper. Sorry, guys. And then he looks at her. Yeah, because he goes, winky. High card for dealer position. Here we go.

Poker exposition. Yeah. It's Señor Gallardo. Mr. Kaminovsky is the small blind, $5,000. And Mr. Fukutu, the big blind, $10,000. Fookatoo.

Enjoy the game. See, a million. You call him Dr. Jones. There's a lot of fucking cards in this movie. They said this was a hell of a thing to shoot over and over. Oh, because they had to keep track of chips. They had to get track of card hands. It's well done.

It's really well done. All right. Anyway, a lot of poker's happening in this movie. It's all being explained to the audience by Mathis. and dumb dumb vespher. All of a sudden, she's a dumb dumb. Dummy. Okay, this movie is also where we see the

invention of the Vesper. Oh, yummy. Is that what his drink is always called? Yeah. That's the, yeah. He's going hard with, like, naming things for her. Right, yeah. He likes her right away.

He's going at it. He wants it. He loves her, and I hope one day that I can be somebody's Vesper. Oh. Oh. I'll make a drink, design. mind after you. No, but it's more

than that. It's just loving someone. So, like, he will change. Not that I want anyone change, but he's like, he wants to, like, become a better person. You want someone to give up their career for you. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly. And then I want to drop them. I want to

love them and leave them. I want to betray the hell out of him. Oh, yeah. And then I want to die underwater. Spoiler. I mean, that's the way to go, right? In an elevator. Okay. Forgive us if we're just plowing through this now. We've gone so long as it is.

The guys come back for their money, and they catch Lesheef in the hotel room. He's weird girlfriend. Oh, yeah. She's a weirdie. I did not find her attractive. No, I don't think anyone did. I don't know that you're meant to.

She's not unattractive. Aren't you meant to, though, like when she comes out of the water on the boat? Yes, in that scene. She's striking. She's not beautiful. She's kind of attractive in a Lechief. for a way. They belong together.

It's like, oh, that's a girl. Imagine their baby. Yeah. Like bloody-eyed babies that they have. Just mur people coming out of the ocean with blood running down. The baby just comes out just crying blood. And the asthma that kid's going to have. No, that's from the Fleming novel.

Okay. So the stairway fight is awesome. All right? This is a big pivotal moment in the relationship of Bond and Bessper. You guys. Yes. This shower seat. I know. Should we skip? I mean, are we skipping?

Bond gets a little help from Vesper as she knocks the gun out of a guy's hand so Bond can do his job. Okay, I wanted to say one thing real quick about when he pulls her and they make out in the doorway and then they spot his earpiece. Yeah. Like, don't wear that all around. Like put it in your pocket for a little while. Yeah, for a guy who's concerned about people's earpieces. Like those earpieces are really screwing a lot of things up. Yeah, they are. Guys, let's just all agree. Ear pieces? No good.

Get around there. 2006. Yeah. Okay, so shower scene. Hello. Okay, so I've watched this movie with Matt quite often, and even before we watched it together, I believe he's given me this tidbit of information,

a little trivia. Like over and over and over again, over and over again. So Matt, you want to... Even when you're not watching it. No, seriously. Because it's interesting. It must be on the special features. I don't know where I saw this.

I can't wait to hear this tidbit. When he comes in and she's just shivering in the shower. Yeah. And he takes her hands. hand and he's absolving her of the guilt that she feels basically like a macbeth sort of thing of cleaning the blood off the hands yeah and so he's licking the blood off her hands creepy it is yeah do do do do do do oh by the way also david arnold the score of the i think is tremendous this movie i think it's his best score david arnold good job yeah so he's cleaning the blood off her hand

and in the take he does all five of her fingers he clean he licks all five of her fingers he cliques he licks all the fingers, then everybody went, this is too creepy. And if you look really closely, they digitally meld it. So he goes from like thumb to pinky. Like they skip a few fingers. And the only way you can tell is the dew drops on the foreground of the shower kind of merge away. But they thought it was too creepy, so they had to fix it in post.

It ain't creepy to me. I'd like to see him look the blood off her whole body. Oh, I'd watch that movie. What was that movie called that she was in? Or she gets eaten out by her brother. Oh, yeah, the dreamers. She gets her period in the bathtub and they'll take a bath. No, thanks.

Thanks. This shower scene is everything to me. We'll talk about it a little bit. What is it about it that you love? This is everything that I think a woman loves about James Bond. It's the protector aspect of it. It's that he's, and I think this is why women love bad boys in a way because they'll put you in danger, which he did with her. And you'll go and you'll cowering at Queen of the Hospital.

cold in a cold shower and they'll walk in they'll sit down in the shower with like getting wet just in the shower with you they'll turn the water from cold to warm and they will literally tell you everything is going to be okay I mean that's the that's the most comforting thing like I can't imagine that is that is why James Vaughn is such the perfect man even with all of his faults because he just, he like, he like puts his arms around you and he loves you and he shields you from everything bad around you. So this is the 21st Bond movie and I think that this is the first one where there are consequences where a woman witnesses the death of two men and she has to go in her full gown and go in the shower because she's freaking out. She's freaking out.

You don't get that in the bond movies. And it's such because Daniel Craig is such a psychopath. He's not trouble. But he's so immune to that. It's such a nice sort of counter to see how she is and how they compliment each other in that way. She's melting his heart. Yeah. Has our girl melted your heart?

Gems. But it's just the most beautiful, beautiful thing because you see him caring for something for the first time. And the way he cares, when he lets his guard down, it's the most, it's just the most intense. I can't even. That's such a bonding moment for them. Guys, I can't. It's too much. This is why I got ill watching it.

I literally got ill. Not during it, but afterwards I got very sick. Because I don't think my immune system could take it. You were taking all those cold showers. Yeah, just licking your own fingers. I left the door open to my dorm and I just sit in the shower in my clothes. You broke a wine glass. Just waiting over someone to warm up the water for you.

That's the sign. Instead of the tie on the door, yours is just a tipped over broken wine glass. I got very, very sick from that. Okay. So, yeah, the shower scene, pivotal turn. I believe they fuck then, right? No. I think they fuck after.

Are you out of your mind? No, I don't think so. When he opens up the door and he sees her sleeping? No, they have not. The other side of that bed. Yeah, she passed out. He passed. He was tender with her.

Other side of that bed was missing. Because also when he's convalescing later, he says, like, you wish you knew what I could do with my little pink. Oh, yeah. That seems a little nuts, though. Okay, guys, they didn't fuck. I'm sorry. That's all. Until the hospital bed.

have done like second base stuff. Yeah. He wants to get his packaged mutilated before he has sex with her. Yeah. Just his balls. He gets poisoned. Oh, this is another one. This is every girl's dream.

Oh, my God. Are you saying the girls on last week's podcast would not have said these things? Nope. No, they were, they were, they were, they were just a different. Because he, him getting poisoned. and her going and saving him. Oh, yeah. It's beautiful.

And then he wakes up, and the first thing, this is it. Yeah. Are you okay? And she goes, me, it's the cool. Oh, my God. That's perfect. Yes, it is. That's perfect.

That's why every woman wants James Bond because he, I can't. I can't. Like, I'm done. I'm done. You should see the other Bond movies before you say that. I'm done. I'm done. I think the other girls had a different James Bond.

Yeah, they definitely did. Yeah, but this one, this is the thing. In this one, he lets his guard down, which ultimately leads him to become, you know, the cold-hearted bond, you know, that he is. But this moment of letting his guard down is the perfect man because he's so strong and he cares so much about her. Well, that's the dream, right? You just described me. Ladies are sitting with a couple of them. No, I'm sure we are.

That's the thing, Amanda. I can bench press Matt. I'm just throwing that out there. I can be bench-pressed. It's not about physical strength. It's about emotional strength and having the willpower to wake up from being poisoned, almost having a full-on heart attack and saying, are you okay? And muscles.

Yeah. Oh, well, that. I mean, it does give a nice flat surface area to stick those pads to. Let's just first talk about the design flaw and the defibrillator of being able to have a lead unplugged. That doesn't even have like a spring catch or a screw. Like, why? You'd think that would be the thing you'd want to secure a little bit better than just a wire that kind of loosely plugs in.

No reason for that to come undone ever. The guy that... Very tense scene. I think the girl, I thought the girl that gets the alarm back at MI6, I was like, she's very attractive. I don't remember. Oh, man.

Yeah. The guy that runs the conversation saying, Bon, you need to do this, you need to do that, was he recently died. He, like, left a theater performance, disappeared for 24 hours, and they found him dead. Oh, I remember that.

I don't remember exactly. McBeth. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, God. All right. So then he wins. In a very lucky move, that's one thing that's a bit of a flaw.

Like, if you really dissect that poker game. Well, does he get the straight draw on the end? He does, but it's like he would have had a huge odds against him. Mark McCombo pointed this out to me. Like, for all the skill that he's purportedly supposed to have, he just kind of wins on a, on a, on a. chance, you know. Yeah.

But, oh, well, you let that go. And he's being a dick in this game, because he's being reckless. Yeah. Oh, and that scene on the balcony with Vesper, when he grabs her by the arm and he's like, his ego is so bruised and so mean to her. Yeah. I love it. Yeah.

I love it. See, that's what I love. That's what women want. That's the bad boy. It's sick, isn't it? Well, it's really perverse, yeah. It's perverse, but it's you want a guide. Do you really? But you want to... That's what women want. They want to be, they want to be, they want to be...

Not last week. They didn't want that. Well, they want to be... Not man-handled, but they want to be controlled. Not controlled. But they want to be... I think that women underneath all of it want a man to have the control over them, but then be able to control the guy in, like, warming their...

in their heart. They want the two things. It's like the Stanley Kowalski thing, where it's like, you want this brute, you want this ape, But then what does Stella do? Because sometimes he's nice to her. Because sometimes he only cares about her. That's why she stays with it. And that's the sick part of women is that as much as we want to say like, no, we want to.

You're speaking for all women? I think I am because I think deep down it's like a, it's like a, it's just part of who we are. We want the guy to protect us. And through that, we also. Yeah. I mean, I agree with part of what you're saying. I think the dream is to have the bad boy change for you. Yeah.

I don't think anyone wants the James Bond out on that balcony. He was like a dick and it's like, give me more money, bitch. But they want to have the satisfaction of when he does change to know that that had happened on the balcony. Yeah. Like he, yeah. That's why it's sick. By the way, we did not plan to have these girls on as a counterpoint. Seriously.

It's an interesting. But it is like, yeah. It's like guys. I don't think our views would be that different from there's as far as like. No, I think watching Goldfinger, you guys are probably saying a lot of the same stuff. Yeah. But I think in this case... Cicena Royale's a very different.

It's very modern movie. Yeah. Yeah. I think, but it is, I think it is as much as we want to say, like, no, like, no, women should be as powerful as men. I think deep, deep down, we love the bond where he's shaking us. And then he's breaking down and crying. Like, I think we love that. Well, especially when he's matched with someone who's his equal.

I think it gets a little dirty when it's someone who's not a little weak. When it's just like the fifth. Fatal at the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's someone that can stand her ground to him.

That's where Vesper is my far and away my favorite bond girl. Ryan's roses would you send what bond girl would you send roses to? Vesper. Vesper? Matt? Lana Wood.

Plenty O'Toole. Couldn't be more different. Plenty O'T. Yeah. Natalie Wood's sister though. No. If I really had to send flowers to one bond girl, it'd probably be

Oh, you know Terry Hatcher, I feel bad. Really? Not that woman who answers the phone? Money money. Also, by the way, we did not mention when they're in the car arriving at the hotel.

He tells her her cover name is Stephanie Broadchest. Oh, yeah. Which is the best James Bond name. And I'm sure it was on a list they had from like Diner the Day. We're like, can we call her Stephanie Broadchest now? But she's such a, 2006 woman that she says no.

Well, they laugh and they have a good time with it. It is well placed. And like, also when he gets Solange in the car, he goes, want to go to my place? It's close. And he just goes around. Oh, that's so charming. Yeah.

So they eat this dinner together. Yes. And it's like exactly how it is in the novel. The restaurant is explained. And then she gets a thing and goes, Mathis and leaves. And both Amanda and I last night were kind of like, why does he go,

Mathis? Oh, because he thinks Mathis told him about the tell. Yeah. Okay. So in the book, I always wonder why they didn't do this in the movie. It was such an interesting little thing.

When Vesper goes outside and the Schiefs men grab Vesper, they take her dress, pull it over her head and tie it. And her hands and everything are bound up in her. That's how they capture. And they shove her in the car that way. And when Bond gets put in the car, she's tied up in her dress.

It's tied over her head like a like a, like a potato. potato sack basically. It's such a weird little element. You've never seen that in a movie. I can't believe that's never been done. I don't know that that would really be possible. Like it would because then she would just be new. In her bloomers.

Also, most people, that's how they take things off over their head. I feel like she'd somehow shimmy out of it. You could get out of it. Guys, let's try it when we're in Jamaica. Then Matt and I will wear dresses. Yeah, everyone bring a dress. She's put in the road, the road, and the car They won a Guinness Book of World Records

For how many times they rolled that car They sure did How many? Seven. Six? I don't know. Six. We'll say six.

Wow. It rolled over, end over, end over and over end. I mean, top over bottom, top over bottom. That's a crazy thing. In one take? Yeah. And did they mean it to go that many times? It just kept going?

They just wanted to flip once And it just went to boom. And it went way, it wouldn't flip because the car was to the spoiler on the front end and the back end it was too aerodynamic and pushed itself to the ground too much. What kind of car was that? Ashton

DBSV-12. Whoa. So then here's what's confusing. Leshife fix him up, takes out his little tracker out of his arm and he goes, looks like your friend Mathis is really my friend Mathis. Why does he say that? I don't know. This is the whole part

I don't understand. First of all, I don't understand what Vespers, we hear it, but Vespers boyfriend, husband, boyfriend. Boyfriend. Was in jail. But he's actually in quantum. He's conning her.

But we don't know that yet, right? And so what was she, was she ever on Le Schiff's side? No, they've come to her and said, we're going to kill your boyfriend unless you do this for us. And what was she supposed to do? She was supposed to make sure that basically that Le Schiefer gets this money. So she's the one who told Le Schiff about that James knows your tell. Yeah.

And that's why he pretended to... Oh, so that's why she was so messed up in the shower also because it was she who did that. Yeah. Right? Well, she knows all of this is going on, basically. She knows she's... So she was plotting with the terrorists in... I mean, she has her own thing she has to do.

She has to make sure LeSheef gets the money. Like, she has to kind of screw up bond. That's why she doesn't want to give him the extra money, because she knows it's all going to go to him. She thinks it is anyway, so she doesn't want any more to go. Oh, okay. Okay, all right. And then Felix Lider steps in, which I love that scene. I love Jeffrey Wright as Felix Lider.

Brother from Langley. Does it look like we need it? I'm bleeding chips. Well, it's 2006. The housing bubble hasn't happened yet, so I guess you don't need it right now. Literally in three months, we're going to need it. We're going to need it bad. He's my favorite Felix Lider.

Yeah? Yeah. Interesting. You don't think so? You like Jack Ler. So then why? I didn't, oh, so then why did Lechief not tell? Oh, because he wanted leverage so that he could say that Vesper's in the other room and he's going to kill her if he doesn't.

But why does Lashif say that about Mathis? What does he... Maybe so that he can use her as, so that he'll think that he was the tell and not Vesper. So that he can say, oh, she's in the other room. She's going to die too instead of she's safe. But he still, he doesn't have to because he doesn't have, it doesn't... Maybe at that point, Vesper. point Vesper has told him he thinks it's Mathith.

But Ves doesn't know. They had plotted already that they were going to say Mathus was the, because she says it's Mathis on the phone. When it wasn't Mathis, it was Le Schiff, right? Yeah, that text message was Lechief. As far as I can, as far as I surmised from where she's saying it's Mathis. She has to go, she lies to Bond and says, Mathis needs me. Mathis doesn't need her.

No. Lechief needs her. And then Lechief kidnap. I think James needs her. connect the dots in this thing. That's okay. Yeah. And you don't even know the whole story

until you get to Quantum of Solis. You guys, I have to put money in the meter. Can I... Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. We'll continue. Okay, just... Yeah, continue.

You guys just know that the torture scene is great. Oh, my God. I never even put money... I never even paid for our... Oh, are you in the back lot? No. The back... You might be okay.

Really? Yeah. I'll go two. Okay. Let's you and me in the torture scene. Yeah, you guys, get it. Let's talk about it. That's fine with me.

I'm going forward to hearing this. All right, Amanda. This gives us the opportunity to see James Bond. Yes. Without his shirt on yet again. Fully nude. Fully jacked. His chest is crazy.

Well, Lechief comments on it, right? You've taken good care of your body, I see. Yeah, and I feel like that is a line they added when they cast Pierce Brosnan. What do you mean? I feel like when he, I don't think they imagined he would be that jacked. You think that line was supposed to be sarcastic? No, I think that that line wasn't in it. And I think that when they got to set or when they saw him on the beach that day, they were like, well, someone's got a comment on this.

Oh, I see. You said when they cast Pierce Brosnan. Did I say Pierce Brasden? I met Daniel Craig. Curse Brasen in my heart, you guys. I mean, you want to say that to Pierce Brosnan. I would love to say that to Pierce Brosnan. I would love to meet Pierce Brosnan. He seems like a decent guy.

But the torture scene was shocking when I first saw that With the balls and the chair and the Yeah, it was, it was, I don't know I like, I like that the chair's there with the wicker bottom That he can easily just cut the bottom out of, no problem Right And I like that I like

I like, that just seems like his go-to torture Like LeSief's go-to torture is always rope balls. Yeah, it's very primal. And this, I know too much about James Bond,

this is really weird, but this was in the book, right? And a lot of people were like, will they, won't they? Put it in the movie. Right, right, right.

Yeah, and they did, and I think it works really well. Do you, did you laugh when he, when he starts laughing? No, I find that... Or you're just still too uncomfortable with the whole situation.

I find that off-putting. It's so, like, desperate. Yeah. And I, yeah, I find that part really hard to watch when he's laughing and then also in so much pain. Yeah. It's very sick to me. Yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah. I think sort of his brain sort of just snaps at that point.

Yeah. I think he realizes, and I felt it too, like when he, when Le Schiff says you're forgetting one thing, when, you know, I can still go to your people and they'll welcome me with open arms after I kill both of you. and I think that that really that sort of snaps James because he goes big picture because it's like you're right you're right I mean it's just I think that this movie and this

sort of this defining of the character of James Bond going through that that torture sort of falls in line with the whole bruteness of Daniel Craig yeah I mean he can sit through that sort sit I meant that pun intended that he can sit through that kind of a torture

Matt, stop breaking stuff. Well, someone is literally, literally, like, emasculating him, but he's still able to keep the power over them. Yeah. And it's not until Vesper starts screaming. And by the way, is she really being tortured? No. No. Oh, maybe she is.

Maybe she is. Oh, we're back, by the way. We did our... Did you have a ticket? No, that's never happened to me in my life. I've never parked once and never gotten a ticket. Really? I get a ticket every time.

Oh, my God. Well, we covered the ball. crashing. I gave your fun fact mad about how it was in the book and it was like, oh, will they, they put it in the movie. Yeah. And they did. And they did. They did. I'm not rolling my eyes. She didn't. She didn't the first time she said it. She said it straight. It was a carpet beater in the novel. What's that? I think it's like a wooden thing that you like hang up a carpet door and beat the dirt out of it. I mean, as women, we don't know what that feels like, but I can imagine that it hurts, right?

Yeah, if they're exposed. Even like if you accidentally get tapped. You can, you can like just get brushed if it hits you the right way. There's a lot of rules when Matt and I cuddle. Yeah. Guys, I have balls. It's not like I don't. I don't know why you're saying I don't.

It hurts in the stomach, right? Is that what it is? Well, why do guys, when they get hit, they say that it's like a stomach? Like a lower stomach. Yeah. I don't feel it. Oh, it is a lower stuff. You don't, where do you feel it?

I feel like my vagina. Oh, well, that's normal. in your case. Oh, okay. Because of your enlarged clitoris. But you feel it in your... Is it like a bad stomach egg? Like someone punched you in the stomach? No, it feels like someone is for me and for a lot of...

I honestly just feel it in my balls. It's like a man. Stand up. Someone kick him in the ball. For me, it would be right here. He's pointing just below the belly button. I guess I do feel it there too, but it's less than what I feel in my balls. Like, I don't feel like any real physical pain.

That's so weird. It's so strange. Some guys have this and some guys I have this thing too. When I get up in heights, I can feel it in my boys. Do you feel that? Really? Like I get a chill in my goolies. Yeah, yeah. But it's a very painful thing, and it drops you.

And I think you double, you don't double over. You're not doubled over because of the pain to the ball. You're doubled over because of the phantom pain you're feeling inside. Yeah, it's just a big double. You know why I think that he can take it, though, is because mind over matter. because he's got, he's so... He's a psychopath. Well, okay, fine, that's one way of putting it other,

and he's strong-willed. And he thinks to himself, if I just laugh through this, a spoonful of sugar makes a medicine. I was telling Matt that I actually find that part off-putting when he's laughing. It's so... Not that I, like, for the character, but I just find it so hard to watch

because it's so desperate. Yeah. It is. Yeah, I find it. But, yeah. I mean, is he doing it out of desperation, or is he doing it because he's overcome... what's happening. He's fucked up.

I think he has to go a little crazy to be able to take that. He has to go like, ah, he's just laughing because he's insane. Because he's willing to die for, he's just not going to happen with him. And also he's going to cut off his balls. That's the last thing he's about to do when he knocks him over, he takes the knife.

They make a much more bigger deal in the book, but he says, not only am I going to cut him off and put him in your mouth. Well, that's what he says in the movie. He says, I'm going to feed you. What you see him out to value. Isn't that interesting? Will you eat? So in the other room

What do you think it tastes like? I bet salty. Well, I mean, ask the people on The Amazing Race. What? Well, they don't have to eat human balls. Oh, I'm glad they don't have to eat human balls on the CBS reality program, The Amazing Race. I haven't watched all the seasons.

I can't get through that show. Well, it's a different podcast. It's such an amazing scene, though. And that's also, like, that whole night when you're going from that parkour sequence to, like, the U.O.K. To the poker and then to this ball crushing scene. This is not a Bond movie that I'm used to.

Yeah. This is everything to me. This is everything that I know. We need it. Door, you, when I first saw this movie and I hear the gunshot go and I'm like, ooh, I thought in my brain I was like, Felix Lider is here to save the day. You had not read the novel? Well, I had read the novel, but not till after I saw the movie. Oh, had you not.

You hadn't read it, though. Right. I had not read it that point. I knew what was going down. Yeah. Well, I'm going to speak for the audience that maybe didn't read Casino Royale until after Cassano Rial came out. I'm going to get a chair in here and cut the bottom out and just let you guys have the

for a little while. I'm into that. It's something we'd be like, I guess we should try it. If you're going to torture me, do it the way you did it to James Bond. I guess we'll try it. So Mathis shoots the guy. No. That's Mr. White.

Quantum. Yeah. Mr. White comes in and takes care of business. Okay. So I haven't seen Quantum since it first came out, and I... You're going to re-love it. Oh, my God, you are. I didn't like Quantum.

I didn't either. It's a direct sequel to Casino Royale that takes place seconds after Casino Royale ends. But that's what I don't like, because I'm loving Casino Royale, and then you're putting me in a completely different atmosphere, and you're telling me to get in the same story, and I'm going, stop. You have to go with James Bond on his journey of how he felt. of how he felt. He resolves the Vesper situation.

He does not. Are you kidding? That's going to be with him for the rest of his life. So let's get plot-wise. Mr. White comes in. He's representing Quantum. He comes in to shoot Lashif,

not to get the money, but just because you don't mess with us. We work on reputation. So he kills him. He doesn't kill Baum because Vesper pleads for him and says, I will get you the money if you don't kill Bond. But like, when does that happen?

Because he comes in, he kills Lechief, and then he's like, hang tight. That's when that happens. Yes. I see now. It does happen pretty quickly. Because there's someone in the Vesper room as well from Quantum.

No. No. You hear the gunshots. That's him killing that person. And what's quantum? Quantum's where he got some of the money for the airplane. Quantum is the big organization that controls all of it. And you find that out later.

But also, there are a reboot of a Bond. The movie you don't want to watch explains what Quantum is. I know. But there's this group called Specter in the original Bond movies that Quantum is kind of like a new version of that. But they've dropped it since Skyfall. Well, they only just didn't have it in one movie. Well, yeah.

Don't worry. It'll be bad. So Mr. White, who he goes up to at the end of the movie, he's a representative of quantum. And Vesper's boyfriend is being held captive by quantum? He is in quantum under the guise of being held captive by quantum. Okay. So then.

And he is just playing Vesper. So we don't even know that in this movie. No, you don't. So we don't even know. So really what's happening is Vesper thinks, and we are meant to believe that LeShper. Chief was holding the boyfriend captive. Quantum doesn't have anything to do with it.

And we don't know anything about Mr. White in this movie. We know nothing. Yeah. We know nothing. Okay. The good thing about it is you're not supposed to. You're just supposed to know that he's someone and at the end, you get this, after everything's basically been resolved, you get this little, oh, there's this Mr. White guy.

Bond's on to him. Now we know Bond's going to follow this trail for the next movie. Yeah. It gives you just a little tease. which I think they didn't need to do I thought they could have just ended the movie there and then not picked up the story oh you mean into

like I think that just Bond James Bond next movie haven't gone on a different adventure I agree yeah I think that's what I think because I don't want to be brought back into somewhere that I've been emotionally invested in and have mourned but I will say I think it makes a pretty darn good four hour movie those two movies together

oh sure maybe maybe it's an inferior second second and a half, but it's still kind of cool. It's like Lawrence of Arabia. Yeah. You go, you go in going, this is, this is great. And then after intermission, you're going, why are we still going? Yeah, with a little bit.

Intermission, it's over, right? No. No, we stay. A couple dozen more reels. 70 millimeter. Then they have this interlude that some people complain goes on is where the movie feels long. That's like watching the notebook. Oh, I love it.

Yeah, they're all sort of lovey, duffy. In Venice, having a great time. I'm into it, too. It is cheesy. The music does swell a little too much at times, and it's, you know, them falling off the hospital bed. This is after Mathis has been tased at the hospital, and Bond got his bone on. Why did they tase him? Because Bond took him away, because Bond is still under the impression that Mathis was working with him.

Does he get let go ever? Yeah, he's in the next movie when Bond needs to help. I don't know. It's hard for me to go back. Yeah. I want you to go back. I know. You should just to see the closure.

I do think what's his face is hot, the diving bell in the butterfly. Oh, Matthew L. Marie. Oh, my God. So then they travel the world. He resigns. Bond resigns. Yeah, he's like, listen, bitch, tender my resignation. That's crazy.

They're sailing through Venice on a little yacht. They're loving life. I don't even admit it of it. Gettler, the Halloween costume you wore. I wasn't my Halloween costume. It was my birthday party. Matt's birthday. No one knew who I was. I had a hat on and a sunglasses with one of the lenses poked up.

Yeah, no, that's perfect. Can we just say that I threw Matt a bomb double-of-40? Oh, you have? The very first episode. And it was amazing. I was a DJ. I was the DJ and I played all Bond hits for the first couple hours. I did get an invite, but I was out of town.

And I've told you before you can just go search, what is the hashtag on Instagram? 0040 or MG 0040. Yeah. But just wait until it's 0041. We're 0070. That's going to be a good one.

Yes, it will be. So they're in a hotel room. I'm going to try to wrap this up because we're two hours. We're Pete Holmesing you right now with the length of our podcast. So they're in a hotel room and they're saying they're going to float through the world together until they have to get an honest job. And does she know, she knows at this time. She's known since after he woke up that she needs to get that money somehow, right?

But she's also really fallen in love with him, right? So she's hoping she's going to give them the money and they're going to let her live and they can, maybe he'll forgive her. No, but she wants to go back to her boyfriend because she needs to save him. I don't think so. I think she, what, yeah, good question. Well, here's the way I look at it. I think she kind of... She wants to save the boyfriend.

There's no real way out. She has fallen in love with James. Yes. She does still owe them $110 million. Yes. She is going to get that money out and give it back to them. The exchange being that Bond gets to live. I think it is clear that when she was making the deal, they were like, we're going to have to kill you,

but we can let Bond live. Why did it to kill her? I don't know. I think she kind of thinks like if she delivers the money, they'll let her boyfriend live. She can't be with Bond anymore. But at least he'll be alive. Yeah, yeah.

So that's why she's enjoying her time so much with him. Best case scenario, everyone lives, and she's, like, single and goes on, like, an eat, pray love thing. So she goes and gets the money and then runs through Venice in this red dress, which is a Hitchcock reference. Yeah. She has a bra later, though. She does?

No, when? There's a CBR? No, there's no brother. It's later in the hotel room, believe it or not. Anyway. That's another thing that bothered me. interested in her breasts. It bothered me a little bit that she leaves the hotel room with no, no, I mean, she,

she knows she might die, right? She leaves him with her phone on purpose. On purpose. With the Mr. White content. Yes, but she leaves with an air of like, I'm literally just go, I'm you pack. Well, there is a moment in the bed where he goes, like tries the hug of it. And she goes, no, I have to go. I have to go.

It's brief. I know, but it's not enough. It's not enough. And then that's where you get into the weird filmmaking thing of do you, does she act the appropriate amount because that would telegraph something's wrong and it might mess up the flow of the movie and you have to give a little willing suspension of disbelief that they probably have to

they can't telegraph it too much anyway so they do this hitchcock thing Martin Campbell talked about this remember when we saw him live the red dress I can't remember which hitchcock movie it is but it's a reference to a hitchcock movie which you don't normally in the bond thing and then he follows her and

immediately is seen by Getler What does she leave on her phone, by the way? What is the... She leaves the text from Gettler that says, meet in 30. She didn't have to leave that. So I don't know if she's maybe thinking he can kind of save the day. No, she knows she's going to her death because I think M later says she left her phone so you could have all of the information.

She would have known. You would have checked it. Yeah. So I think she was going to her death and she knew it. But she had no, whatever, she went as though nothing was wrong. Here's the way this works, I think. I think she knows she's going to die. And I think what she thinks she's going to get out of it is Bond will be able to live

and her boyfriend will be able to live. Yeah. I think that that's what she thinks is going to happen. She's a savior. That's the thing. Otherwise, what she should have done with their wits about her should have been like, here's the deal. These people are quantum. I need to give them this money.

Right. Why don't we call all of MI6 to surround them? But at this point, she thinks then her boyfriend will definitely die. Right. So the only reason that she has for this is that she thinks that if she does this, they're both going to live. Yeah. How did she get hired by MI6? She works for the treasury.

But the way that they describe in Quantum, what happens is this, Yusef, is her boyfriend's name, is like a charming kind of. What a creeper. Svorthy charming gentleman that comes in and gets these women to fall in love with. him and then they pull this scam and so she feels so he he goes after because he goes after this woman that works in canadian intelligence in quantum doing the same thing is that the red-haired girl emma no oh no she's just briefly in at the end she's in that show castle okay but anyway yeah not that that was a tangent back to the no bra all right just kidding so they go and they have this big big fight out in this this venice home that's being restored that whole thing all of the exterior

shots of that thing collapsing are all miniatures, which is amazing. Oh, that is a really good job. They've been composited into the real neighborhood. And when I say miniature, it's like eight or ten feet tall, but still, it's unbelievable. It's smaller than a house. Yeah. So then

Bond dispatches all of these people, but Vesper... With a nail gun. Yeah, Gettler's a nail gun to the glasses. Vesper kills herself. She just feels too guilty at this point. She could survive. But then she does this thing, thematically where she, in between the

grate of the elevator, she takes his hand, kisses her finger. absolving him of any guilt. Yes, it's a reverse shower. Oh, no. Did you know that? Did you know that? Yeah. Oh, no. And then she kills herself as penance. How did they film

that, by the way, of her breathing in the water? That's amazing. That's so her face and just that performance is so... But how could they have filmed that? I don't get it. I think maybe she... I don't know. You just close your throat.

Or is it CG maybe? The bubbles? I don't know. The bubbles? I don't know. That's just, but that makes me angry. That's something where it's like you didn't have to die. I think she doesn't want to face him, you know?

She knows he knows at this point. Oh, but doesn't she know that she's going to be hurting him anymore? I think she feels so ashamed. But actually, maybe she did England a service because if Bond would have quit, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And also then she would have probably had to go. back to her boyfriend. Maybe she would have been tortured. Maybe she would have been killed.

Like, yeah, she was, yeah, there was no, there was no eat, pray, love in her future as much as we want to. No, there was, uh, betray, drowned, die. It is sad. Then he's giving her CPR. And he's so sad and then he cries. Yeah. See, that's what women want. Women want to be the savior of a bad boy. Women want to take a bad boy and save them. Yeah, and then die. And then kill themselves. So then he talks to M, and she does say, you know, she must have known she was going to her death.

She spared you. I'm sure. Then M also says I'm sure she hoped they'd let her live. Yes, right. Okay, so that explains it. There, there is a little bit of ambiguity. So she thought she was going to death, but then she was, like, part of her mind she was going like, but maybe. Maybe.

Well, I don't think she knew for a fact she was going to die. And also going back really briefly to the bedroom scene, where you say you didn't feel like she just leaves on a whim without anything. She throws a pillow and says, do you pack? But you know what? She's had time to come to terms with this. She's had this plan. So she doesn't want him to follow her, right? He does. She does. I know she doesn't. No, she wants him to find that phone later

after everything's gone down. Then why wouldn't she have hidden it? Why would she leave it out in the open? I think she does want him to find it now. Follow her, though? Yeah, because I think deep down she's thinking maybe... He can save me. Maybe, yeah. Well, he could because he's fucking James Long. But then she, but then it's all for not because then she's trying to save him. She's like, no. Yeah, then why does she kill herself?

Because it's too much after the fact. Yeah, it's not entirely clear, which is another interesting. Usually you get that in a Bond movie because the plot's so complicated, they're just fucking up left and right in the screenwriting. This feels a little intentionally ambiguous. And the characters are so complicated that I think it works to be like, well, why would you do that? She may not have even known.

I mean, that may have been, to kill herself may have been just like, oh, yeah, I'm going to do this. I'm Vesper. I guess I'm Vesper, you guys. Yeah, so I guess I'm going to do this. Whoops, jump the key. That's very Titanic. He follows the phone trail, and he gets Mr. White to meet him at that villa.

Clooney's Villa. Yeah. They filmed the night. And that's Star Wars episode two. That's Clooney's Villa, yeah. Fuck, it's like, who lives there? That's amazing. That's where they shot Star Wars Episode 2 as well, where they get married to tag the clones.

If you look up at one of the windows, you see George waving. Yeah. I hope that's true. So he shoots him in the knee, and this is where we get... We finally... We finally get it. And he's arrived, and this is the first time I think I've watched this movie since maybe Skyfall. And when you get that moment, I suddenly get angry that you have two more movies of origin trilogy.

Yes, and I've been saying that to you. Yeah, we've started. This is all we need to get started. We don't need to go through quantum. And as much as some people like Skyfall, the tone of Skyfall doesn't seem to feel. fit with this movie now that I watch this movie? And I feel like this is the one that starts you off now. Just get into the missions

and get going. I'm with you. That end, see, that's why I'm always smiling at the credits because of that end sequence. We then walking up the stairs with the music. Again, done. Yeah.

Finished. It's too much. In the book, she kills herself with sleeping pills and leaves him a note. Well, it wasn't 2006, computers. Yeah. She went very

Maryland in their own. But that's basically it. God. But I would like to say and point out that this is the first time we see him in a three-piece suit, which is the traditional...

Craig. The Daniel Craig, yeah. First time we see him in a three-piece suit. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Which is the traditional Sean Connery garb. Yes, that's right.

Yeah. Which is why this is when he gets to say, Bond, James Bond, because he's wearing that three-piece brioony suit. May I ask when you saw this in the theater for the first time, and you knew you were in at the beginning, and you were in it, you were so psyched. When that last moment hit, what was going through your head was...

I'm like, they hit it at every turn. Yeah, I was... Standing up, like... Was great. Chearing. And I think I went back the next day. Did you stay in the theater until everyone had left in just to soak it in? Well, I was with, like, six or seven people,

and they all really liked it, but I don't think they had this look of, like... I just... jumped in a lake of refreshing lake I'm in George Clooney's lake yeah oh god Lake Como baby

is there any way we could stay there sure if you become friends with George he invites you and then you have fun things nice dinner party John Cresensig was talking about that on a show once and it just sounds like heaven yeah because you don't say no to that yeah no I don't think you can't say no

leather necks or leather heads or whatever it was. Rubber necks. Rubber dicks. I think you'll come and kidnap you and take you there. They do. They don't let you know where it is.

Black bag. I tie your dress over your hat. And on that. You guys, this I guarantee, well, not guarantee but I would wager this is going to be our longest of all the episodes.

And it should have been. There's a lot to go through. We loved it so much. There's so many amazing moments. This really is like the, I mean, for us, it's our favorite. It's our favorite. That's the most.

It's so crazy that out of all the Bond films, you guys are such Bond fans, that this is your favorite one that never happens with trilogy. It's like the later ones are always the... I know. And that the both of you, the both of you appreciate it. And I think, because we glibly talked about how we like Barbara Broccoli so much last episode because she is an attractive woman. She's gorgeous. I get the feeling that even more than Michael Wilson, she's the one responsible for this. she was really pushing Daniel Craig.

He was dealing with her a lot more. And I think she's really responsible for this version of it. It's crazy they cast him too because he had done nothing virtually. Everything, all these, if you watch... That's how they liked, well, the press was brutal to him when he was making his too. I went back, after I saw this movie, I went back and watched a lot of his films. And some of them were just crazy. Like the one where he dies, not dies, but he's in that hot air balloon crash or whatever.

What? There's one where it is. There's this hot air balloon crash with some. Samantha Morton. I don't remember that. And it's really weird. His press, the day they debuted who Bond was going to be, he had to go with these, like, SAS military types and these fastboats through the Thames River.

He had to wear a life jacket. And it just didn't look like Bond because he's... Like the poor guy. You can tell he was uncomfortable with that stuff. I will share a little behind the scenes of fun. We, for the BBC America, Nerdist, show we for a minute we were going to get Robert Webb to be our UK correspondent who's that of mitchland Webb oh yeah yeah and Mitchell and Webb look and the I wrote out this huge arc for him of

having this big announcement of him being the nerdist correspondent and the fact that no one in England knows what the fuck nerdist is yeah but we were going to have instead of like the boat on the Thames we were going to have like a rowboat and like me rowing it, like our budget wasn't that big and stuff like that. And I pushed it and I pushed it and I pushed it and I wanted to have it so far and we were going to do it. It was just going to be like a shot for shot. There's one

promo video of Daniel Craig doing this thing and we were going to do shot for shot of that and then just, but the press room was only going to have like one person. All right guys. I wanted to do it so bad but we never got to. Listeners, thank you for sticking.

We casinoed. We did. Thanks so much for having us. You're a wonderful guest. Thank you. I'm so glad you could join me. I'm so proud to be in your guys' favorite episode episode. Yeah. That's right.

Yeah. You guys out there, please listen to this and juxtapose it with last week because I'm interested to know what your thoughts are. Yeah. And while you're at it, follow the podcast on Twitter, which is James Bonding Pod. At James Bonding Pod. You can also email us at Bon James Bonding at Gmail.com. Bond James bonding at gmail.com. Email us.

We promise to eventually get to your emails. Yeah. We're not great at course plans, but we are reading them. Next week we'll do that. I haven't read any of them. You're lying for me. Well, I can't even log in to the emails, but I'm reading all the Twitter. All right.

Well, then I'll figure out how we log in the email. And watch Ghost Girls. That's exactly what I'm going to say next. Watch Ghostgirls on Yahoo. Google it. It's just Ghostgirls.com. It's the easiest way to see you. But girls have an H.

It's so good. It's so good. And Matt's in an episode. Yes. I was not asked. Someone did mention this on Twitter that I loved, and that we should end each episode with James Bonding will return with Thunderball. And we have our guests lined up, don't we?

James Bonding will return with Thunderball, and our guest will be writer-producer Scott Mosier. Yeah. The man who brought us clerk, small rats, and chasing Amy, will now discuss Thunderball. And if you want a preview of what that would be like, Listen to episode 23 of Fib, which is the podcast I do with Scott, where we just went off on Thunderball for about 20 minutes. Oh, wow.

I'll have to do that. All right. Have a listen. Bye, everybody. Bye, guys. Bye, thanks. The list is life. Now leaving nerdist.com.

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