James Bonding - Cold Openings, Hot Rankings with James Bladon

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

Matt, Matt and James sit down and do a full ranking of every single James Bond movie's pre-title sequence. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt and Matt and, Matt and, James Bonding podcast. It sounds like a blacksmith. Oh, wow. Right before they say since the original podcast. Yeah. Well, anyway, this is James Bonding. I'm Matt Goorley. I'm Matt Gourley.

And we are in it coming to you from a special state with our guest today. Just, I don't know if there's anyone more lovable. James Bladen. James, welcome. Wow. With that introduction, thank you. guys. I haven't seen you since you stole the show at Matt's wedding. I mean, oh, yeah. Wow. Thanks for doing, we're all going to remember you more than them.

I certainly do. James was also, you might remember him as one of the two guests for Octopussy Strong that episode. It was something like three hours or something. I still get Twitter. Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Hashtag Octopozy Strong. That will go away once they jump up. behind the paywall. Well, that will be the stitches. Get them while you can. Yeah, I know.

They're still not behind the payroll. That's great. Yeah. Let's not remind them to do that. No. Honestly, we don't. But remind our listeners to get those episodes. Yeah, download them, please.

If you're listening to this podcast right now and you're like, I don't have the entire back catalog, go get it. And no guarantee by the time this comes out because we record about a week and a half early. Yeah. They will be there. But. But I want to say, get it.

And also get that episode, the first episode, which is, 0-0-0 because I feel like somehow in the catalog of James Bond episodes, according to Earwolf, that episode doesn't exist. Which episode? We did a 0-0-0 episode. In the very beginning? Oh, yes. I remember we did it the same night.

We recorded before Paul came. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. And we went and ate at that place across the street from Nerdist. Cheebo? Right. Maybe? Yeah.

I don't remember that? And someone came in there, like Fred Durst or someone came in? Oh my God. I remember the Fred Dirst sighting. Yeah. Wow. That's when we knew that our podcast was going to be blessed and ordained by God. I will say he had a lovely backwards baseball cap on that evening. Fred Dirst.

I remember it being gray. It was dark gray, right? I was like, oh, this is a dressier Fred Dirst than I've known. It's not the bright red hat we've all been used to. Well, he was morning. Speaking of morning, it's Saturday morning. See, I went a different way with that. Yeah.

And I'm personally glad that we're doing this. This is welcome relief we've all, I think, well, at least Matt and I have had long weeks, have been a long couple of weeks, lots of stuff going on. And this, rather than a chore to do in the face of strife, is actually a welcome outlet. It is a welcome outlet. I will say that Matt and I both will have our phones available to us in case any members of the families need us for anything right now. I'm not a hard. I'm stand ready to take over if you guys need to leave.

Great, I'm gone. But what we are doing today is another ranking episode. We've done this before with the Bond songs, and we even ranked Roger Morris films within his tribute episode. Today we're going to be ranking the pre-title sequences, and it turned out to be a lot more difficult than I would have thought. There turned out to be a lot more pre-title sequences than I remember. Well, some are almost split in two.

You know, it is crazy to think about the fact that the catalog just gets bigger. There's always more things that you have to remember. Like, I forgot about Spectra's cold open. I was like, oh, my list is not done. And I looked at the, I have all the movies on my computer. And when I downloaded that, when I got them all, the last one out was Quantum of Salas.

So I don't have Skyfall on my computer. Oh, I see what you're saying. I don't have Spector on my computer. Yeah. Well, it's time. Just goes to show you how long. That should just be an automatic Mac update. Yeah, it should come with it.

There's a new James Bond film ready to download. Like when they gave everybody that U2 album on the iPhone. Remind me later. Yeah. Yeah. That still comes up when I'm shuffling. That's right. That thing will not go away, will it?

Just like, what? I don't remember. Oh, yes. The ill. the ill-gotten U-2L. Yeah, it's like the audio fluoride that's in your... The government forces it on you. I see that we're all here with our lists.

Yes. Here's what I say. We do also the same thing we did with the songs, and that is we won't count never say never in the 24 film rankings, but do mention where it comes in. So take a minute to think about where that falls in your list.

Remind me of that one again? Yeah. That's where he does that training. He's attacking that, like, vacant building and he succeeds and he throws that little noise frisbee and the flash bomb and then he's rescuing the girl and she stabs him and then you realize it's a training mission. A lot of that in these cold opens. All right.

And we're also, we have some qualifications here because not every movie has a cold open. For instance, Dr. No existed before cold opens existed. Isn't that the only one? Yes. Yeah. So for Dr. No, are we cool with? counting the assassination of Stringway's and his secretary because then it kind of ends on the

shot of the folder Dr. No and then cuts to meet James Bond. Right. And that would essentially be, had the franchise existed, before that point, that would have been the cold open. Yeah, good. I think so. Well, this summit is underway. Soundly underway, gentlemen, and I for one am a gog to see what wins. So the way we rank this, the patented James Bonding method of ranking is we will each start with our lowest picked, and we will not discuss said cold open until all three of us have mentioned it. Okay, just so I understand. So we each say it without giving any opinion about it.

Right. Correct. Then we open the floodgates. Whenever one has been mentioned three times. So we will list. And then finally when, let's say, tomorrow never dies, because that'll be first because it's a shitty cold open. Sorry.

You know, that it's wrong. When that one is mentioned by all. three of us, then we stop and talk about it. It's like Beetle juice. If we say Beal Juice three times, it appears in conversation. Okay, so someone keeps track of how often things have been mentioned. I will. Yeah, I can handle that.

All right. So, James, is there anything else we need to cover before we get into this? Because I feel like we'll have a lot to discuss throughout. Can I just say a quick caveat? Sure. In that I am not as familiar with all of these as you guys. So I may offend you or your listeners. No.

No one is offended. I may be wrong. We have a new slogan here this season, and that's we're lovers, not experts, and you're entitled to your opinion, and so are the listeners. You can't hate anyone for that. Also, listeners, you should know that we didn't even know if we were going to be able to tape an episode this week due to many reasons, and we threw together last minute. So this man, James Bladen valiantly stepped in last minute to handle this. Like literally two hours ago. He's like 007 taking over for 003 or six.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Or others that have died. But I also know James, and he's probably being a little. humble. He knows his bond pretty well, so hit him hard. Just so you know, if during the podcast you look over and you think I'm dead, it's probably an imposter. So slam him soups hard on Twitter.

Well, James, you're the guest, so why don't you start us off with your worst pre-title sequence? Well, I feel honored, and I feel like I'm already going to cause controversy, but this one, I don't even, I'm not even sure I know what it is, so that's why I put it last. I put die another day. Ah. That's my first. That's a sound choice. That is an excellent choice.

That occurs, well, we'll not talk about it. That's right. Until we're mentioning all of them. Yeah. Okay. So, Matt, I will go second. Okay. And I'm going to have to say that it is,

you only live twice for me. Wow. I know. I know. Wow. I will talk about it Wow Eventually

All right for me Number 24 I'm going with the man with the golden gun Ooh And now if you're freaking out at home Going what like I just did over You only live twice We'll explain our reasons

It's not this is This was not like Willie nilly that I wrote these things down Or my comrades here I'm not Russian I swear But we have our reasons Okay so James

Okay. Back to... So for 23, I have... The world is not enough. Ah, okay. All right. Interesting here. I really appreciate your trying.

I really appreciate your wrongness. You're astute outlook. 23 for me is the man with the golden gun. Okay. So we've got two there. This is very... First number two are on the board. What's happening?

Number two or. Number 23 for me, tomorrow never dies. You are fucking retort. What? It's crazy. We might never get to talk about a single cold opening here. I feel like we're going to be so all over the place.

They're all going to come at the end. All right. All right. James. Okay. 22. I have our on the cusp, questionable, uh,

Dr. No. Sure. Okay. Just because... That makes a lot of sense. Okay. I am actually writing down Dr. No right now because I forgot to include it in the list.

Holy shit. What did you have? You didn't number them. That's why you didn't know you were missing one. I know. Matt. It's the only one. I'm telling Earwolf.

Don't. Please. Don't. I'm sorry, Mr. Ackerman. He listens to every single Earwolf podcast before it goes out. I know. He's a vigilant.

He's a vigilant. founder, you know? Okay, so number 22, yes, number 22, and we're not, we're never saying ever again, is not included. It would have been here for me. We'll mention where it goes in. Oh, you would have it at 22. I would have it at 22. Okay.

Because I think there are other training sequences that occur in the James Bond franchise in cold opens that are better than that. Okay. Namely, three of them. So number 22. for me, I'm going to have to go with view to a kill. And again, I would love to discuss this now,

but we can't. That's the problem. Right. That's the fucky problem. It's hard. You can't defend yourself. With the Beetlejuice ranking system. Yeah.

You can't defend yourself when you say things like view to a kill. And then I say things like tomorrow never dies. It doesn't even need a defense. So I understand where you're coming from. That's tough for you. I'm glad I'm literally sitting in between you two. Well, you're really, you're our buffer.

You're, you're our, yeah. Normally Matt and I get along quite well, but I can see this is going to be contentious. There's some, you know, there's some Brosnan love that exists on one side of this table. Yeah. Number 22 for me, diamonds are forever. Interesting. Yeah. Oh, I think, I think you're close on that, but we'll discuss.

All right. Okay, 21 for me might be a little controversial. It's live and let die. I understand where you're coming from. I disagree, but I do understand that. Okay, number 21 for me is on her majesty's secret and service. Wow, these are all over the board. We've never done a ranking this far and not discussed a film yet.

I've only done one ranking. All right, 21 for me, die another day, which puts the second number two on the board. Yeah, second nailing that coffin. The man with the golden gun and die another day, both at two. Mm-hmm. Okay. All right, 20 for me is Moonraker. Interesting.

First on the board for Moonraker. First on the board. 20 for me, the world is not enough. That's two. And I will mention two of the three that have two are brazen. How dare you? How dare you? I think I know where they're coming from.

Okay. Number 20 for me, Specter. Sure. Specter. Specter. Yeah. Okay.

19 for me is the man with a golden gun. That is our first Discussion topic, ladies and gentlemen, the man with the golden gun. Let's open it up. I was the first. I have it at the very bottom of my list.

He's got a powerful weapon, let's talk about it. Well, for me, it had potential. A fun house, it's something that hadn't really quite been done. It's some ways similar to from Russia with Love, sneaking around in a villain's sort of... Like a training. Yeah. But it really lacks suspense when your person you're kind of supposed to be rooting for is either the villain or a mobster. And it's just kind of like the production values seem a little down and I don't know.

And they're faceless sort of like, who? Yeah, exactly. There's nothing to it. Yeah. Yeah, the guy has sort of character actor written all over him. Yeah, I know. That's who he was. You know that he's going to die.

Veteran of two Bond films, that guy, too. Oh. And then you've got, you know, people relaxing on the beach. Which I do love that part. Because you're meeting the characters. It does have knick-knack to Basco. Yeah. which in all honesty is what prevented this from being ranked much lower for me.

Yeah, I understand that. It almost bumped it up a point for me, knick-knack, Tabasco, Gid your dog. Oh, it literally bumped it up two points for me. Two points, two full points. Two full movies for me. I like that they're drinking, what are they having, black velvets or what do you call them? Those Guinness and Champains, what are they called? Oh, what are those?

That sounds delicious. A black and tan. Would you go with me to? tonight to get a couple of those? I would. That sounds amazing. Yeah. Yeah.

So, but we see Christopher Lee, we see his third nipple. Everything's, everything's going great. Right. But it's not. I, for my cold open, for my bond cold opens, I guess we can sort of talk about the criteria for which we're selecting these things. Yeah. When it's related to the mission that we're going to see, I don't like it as much.

I prefer, and it's something that really wasn't done very often. but I prefer something that's like seemingly unrelated to him. Yeah, I do too. I like to see James Bond in it. And by that, I mean, I don't like to see a guy I think is James Bond in it. Even though it is the guy playing James Bond who's not James Bond. Right. That was another thing.

The mannequins, like the mobsters, like they're real men who can't stop shaking. It just seems like it was all shot in a day. Do you feel like they should have just gone to Madam Tussos and like grab some old Hollywood stars? Yeah. Well, they're really setting up. I mean, obviously, Roger Moore is the last one you see, right? And it's him heavily made up in a frozen pose, and he's the mannequin. Obviously, that's setting up the end when he passes for the mannequin.

So the mannequin has to look as real as possible. If you're going to bring logic into this. Well, sir, you could show yourself out. I do like that setup. I mean, it's a long con, but it's a big payoff. I will give special points, even though it's like. last on my list for the honky tonk piano version of man with the golden gun right oh that is worked into the to the little western section of the fun house i believe that's been described as our favorite

bit of music from all of the james bond canon it is mine probably yeah wow i love it we used to put it at the end of superego shows too because it's like tack piano yeah it's a great have you tried playing it on the largo piano me personally i can't play that oh i don't Who am I, John Barry? He's the only man that could. I wouldn't soil that. They have the tax. Yeah.

On the Largo piano. Yeah. Anyway. Mm-hmm. Well, there you have it. Number 24, the man with the golden gun. Okay. Pre-title sequence.

Go screw. What, uh, so last one to mention it was James. Yes. Right. So then it goes to me, and we are at number 20? 19, I believe. 18. No, 19.

Sorry, 19. Ah, diamonds are forever. That's two for diamonds are forever. Well, guys, it's time to have another discussion. And what we're going to talk about is my choice. Number 19, the world is not enough. Oh, it is 21 minutes long. Wow.

And was not planned that way. The boat chase was originally going to be after the, opening titles, but then they felt the cigar thing, that the whole sequence in the Swiss Bank. Is that what it is? I can't remember. It starts with that, right? Yeah. That was going to be it. They're in, they're in the Swiss Bank office. He's got a lovely briefcase. He, I mean, it's the only time I've seen blinds save the day. He doesn't use cool gadgets. With the longest court. He doesn't, yeah. What he does is he sees that the blinds are pretty long.

He's like, oh, these are large windows. He then removes the cord that holds the blinds together, which is, from my memory, four stories long, four or six stories? Something, I don't know. Yeah. Longer than a blind. Over a hundred feet of blind cabling cord, cordage.

Yeah. I don't know why he didn't have his cue issued grappling belt with him. I don't know why he didn't shoot his way out of there. Yeah, I mean, there's so many things he could have done. The cigar thing, I felt like, okay, what's the cigar thing?

He's handed cigars by the lady, and I felt like it was too much of a nod to, like, Monica Lewinsky, like that in the so 90s of it. And the... Then he gets in a white bronco and goes on a... The first sighting of a... Low-Speak chase. The first sighting of a Frank Geary building in a Bond movie, that museum in Belboa, Spain.

But then it just does not end. And there are some thrilling things in that boat chase. Also, by the way, it's not a mission he should be on. What is the mission? The mission is to get back King's ransom money. Do you remember? No. And then the money is scanned at

at MI6. Right. And it's like $250 million or something like that. Which I get it is a pretty big crime. Sure. But to send in someone licensed to kill who normally is stopping the threat of nuclear war to go save an oil barons $250 million.

Yeah. I think is ridiculous. You've already lost me. Yeah. And so, frankly, has this opening sequence. Now, the nature of these ranking episodes is that we get a little bit of our gripes and moans out with the early ones. We're going to get to some love. But this one is rough.

It does go long. It ends with Brosnan's worst example of hurt acting. I disagree. I think it's the only time with which it made sense. Well, I will say maybe you're right because when he's in that torture chair later in this movie, maybe his worst hurt acting. But, I mean, it is a plot point that he is supposed to have. ripped apart his shoulder. Yeah.

It's a plot point. He fucks a doctor. Now who's bringing logic into it. Please show yourself the door. We all have three logic strikes we're allowed to make. Oh, I'm going to write that down. Logic strikes so far, one, one, zero. Oh, shit.

Use them wisely, Matt. Thank God logic is not my strong suit. Well, I know what? have more to talk about as these get better, but is there anything else we need to cover on this one? I think we're good. There's the tie straightening underwater. The tie straightening underwater, which I think you can't do because he's already done it in the tank chase and it was done well. Yes. And here it's a little bit like, look how cute we are. We're doing it again. It is funny, but it's, to me, it's one tie too far, you know. What do you think of Q's fishing boat

for his retirement? That's his fishing bill? That's what he says? Yeah. I watched. I watched some of these this morning, some is by memory. I don't remember. Oh, God, that's his fishing boat. Imagine Q running that thing at full speed. But I will say this if he fell off, his hands are a flotation device. But we're not going to know how big his hands are until we cover the movie. That's right. No official rating scale on his hands yet. Did you see the screenshot someone sent us of his hands from view to a kill? Yes. Yeah, I think, did I? I feel like you said, well, this has already been out, but you gave it a golden I minus two, right? I think so. But I, I, That screenshot where he's holding the microchip.

It looks like it's a golden eye. Take a look at golden eye again. All right. I mean, stay puffed. All right. Those things are huge. That's fair. Who knows what they're like all the way into the world is not enough.

We could be seeing something even. That's 100% out. He's hamburger helper. Hamburger helper. Okay. So the next. 18? Yeah.

Cold open. 18. Okay, for 18 I have. This is exciting. It's getting exciting. It's getting exciting. I needed this. We're going to start talking everybody.

Tomorrow never dies. You fuck. What? I'm sorry. That's two for tomorrow. Never dies. That's exciting. I feel like you'll forgive Matt for some of these, but not me.

He doesn't forgive me for these. James, you're entitled to your opinion. This gentleman, on the other hand, I've spent the better part of... I'm entitled to my facts. I've spent the better part of five years trying to convince him of Pierce Brasson's greatness, and it has not worked. It has no work. Although the next film up for us is Tomorrow Never Dies. So I'm going to revisit it.

Yeah, it was one. I just want to, I'm curious. 18, correct? We're at 18. 18. 18. Moonraker. Two for Moonraker.

Oh, wow. Okay. 18 for me, first time on board, Thunderball. Ooh. Wow. That's interesting. And I look forward to discussing. Yeah, we'll have a lot to say.

You know, it's going to be interesting discussions is when we're really split, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Because already one of them I can't understand that I first. from you two. Oh. I'm not going to say what it is. The interesting thing about your system, if I could pat you both on the back,

is that we're not talking about them necessarily in terms of all the worst. It's the ones that we first agree on. Yeah. Average. So it kind of can skip around. Yeah. Yeah. It's a beautiful ranking system.

It really is. And it was developed by Matt. Yeah. It's true. And it ends up being the average ranking of the three of us. Yeah. So ultimately, you're not getting one person's opinion. You're getting a podcast's opinion.

The aggregate. Yes. 538, are you listening? How do we get, I love those guys. How do we get on the 538? Well, I just want, I don't know. You want Nate Silver on this? Yes. Discuss what?

I want them all on this. The probability of what. I want them to come to me, Walt Hickey, listen to this because he's their entertainment numbers guy. Start doing some James Bond stats and we'll do an episode just on stats. Do you hear me? Hit up Walt Hickey on Twitter and let's do a 538 James Bond by the numbers episode. I would 100% be behind that.

And I think he would too. Whatever I need to do to make that happen, I'm going to do. Okay. Great. 17? 17. I have a Diamondsar Forever. That's three for Delavan.

Oh. Aura forever. Diamond forever forever. Okay. Stimulate and tease me. But stay the diamonds clears me. All right. This one's rough.

I enjoy watching it because it's a goof. Yeah. But man, coming on the heels of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and even if you take that out of the picture, it just feels a little rushed. I don't know. Yeah.

It's weird because it's, you know, you should be so thrilled that Sean Connery's back in action here. And he goes off, I mean, this might rank so low for me because of the gross clay mashed potatoy substance that they dumped that poor Blofeld into. And apparently stunk all day on the set. I mean, why?

Now, their defense of this thing was that they wanted to literally wipe away the tone of the last one and get back to Connery and have some fun and make it move fast and quickly learn that Blowfeld's back in action. This is almost like not so much exposition, but like style exhibition, or not exhibition, exposition, would I say? You said exhibit.

Part of my brain is back to my car. It's just in my glove compartment. You mean they were sort of resetting Sean's way of being on? Yeah, plus by bringing Guy Hamilton back and kind of like, you know, in many ways they were going to do a sequel to Goldfinger in the first place and have his brother be the villain. And so they doubled down on the Goldfinger feel, but it got so campy. But what's weird is it's like a montage.

Yeah. Of him showing up and like, where is Blofeld? I don't know. And I do like the cuts between those, you know? Yeah. And the, the, I mean, it's like, it's interesting to think of that character, you know, coming off of what had just happened in the previous movie where his wife is killed in front of him. So you, I guess you want the through line of the revenge.

I wish I was alive during this time to know what it was like for a James Bond fan to have experience on a Magic Secret Service and then all of a sudden you get Connery back, which I assume you were happy about, but also like maybe you were happy about the storytelling they were doing in Honor Majesty's Secret Service. And then you come in and it's, it just felt off. And it also, I think, suffers from Connery's wig, which is, you know, it is 1970 wig. You know, his hair is much bigger than it had been. But I feel like James Bond never should have trended his hair that way. It's true because this is the first time you get middle-aged bond. Now, we've had older bonds, but there's something about Connery's bond here that just looks like a little schleppy.

He's a little more puffy, too. We have a face. Yeah. Yeah. So to me, it wasn't hair so much as his rounded face made it feel a little bit like. Yeah. I actually think his toupee is pretty good. It's just the style of it maybe that you're responding to.

It must be it. You think it's pretty good, huh? Yeah, I think it's so... It's better than you only live twice. You only live twice. looks like a Lego hair. The only light twice helmet head,

I like, it's darker, right? Yeah. They grade them up a little bit. Yeah. That's maybe what makes it look a little more convincing.

Yeah. Because it matches his salt and pepper chest hair. Mm-hmm. And belly hair. And that doesn't stop. He doesn't have that much of a belly. I will say, of all the bonds so far,

I feel like Connery stayed pretty consistently lean. Did you see that scene in, And diamonds are forever Where they basically show him in a nude thong Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a little... Oh, I'd kill for that body.

Well, but... But I mean... I don't follow. Like Daniel Craig throughout the... And he's now had... Will have the longest tenure as bond. He's stayed in the most amazing shape. I mean, I think that's in this...

Oh, I was going to compare. You can't. I was talking about life. Oh, I'm talking like into his 70s. Oh, I see what you see. Yeah, he looks great. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, Amanda was saying that she thinks she even prefers older, like, bald bond. Because it kind of, I don't know, like, Last Crusade Bond or like Rob. For the Red October Bond? Yeah. I mean, Sean.

What do you think of that wig? What do you think of the hairpiece and for Red October? I think that's his best hairpiece. It's like a white thing, right? It's like a white. Kind of a hot beard. Yeah. That's a good look.

It's a hell of a wig. God damn. The way they transitioned to English in that movie. Yeah. So fucking good. That's right. What is it? Armageddon, right?

that's the word that is the same in both languages. Oh, is it? So they zoom in. The word Armageddon is the same in Russian and English. And when they pull out, they're now speaking English. That's brilliant. I knew that, but I didn't know. It was so fucking.

Wow. John McTiernan, man. That guy could make some movies and then I guess he wiretapped some. Well, he's in jail and I'd like to get him out. Isn't he out? I thought he's out now? I think. Can we get him for this podcast?

You're asking me? I'm asking you. Let me text. We seem to be tapped into the legal system. Let me text him by text. texting every random number I can until I get his. Zero one, zero zero zero.

He's got the code. You say a little bit more about diamonds forever while I pee. Okay. So it is the poignantness of, as I was saying, you know, his wife having been killed and he comes in. Yes. I think it should be a little more high octane than it is.

It should be a little more gristled. But I do lose myself in the shitty suits that are in the cold open. Right. He's in a brown garbage suit, like immediately. Yeah. I find that distracting. I don't like 70s bond suits. I find them a bit off-putting, more so in Roger Moore's case than in Connery's case,

because he's only in the first half of the first really year of the 70s. But I find that the 60s bond, those suit cuts, I find them very, timeless. Sure. I find it, you know, it's almost like the costumes in Ghostbusters. I don't know why we're now talking about the costumes in Ghostbusters. But there's a timelessness to what they're all wearing in Ghostbusters, which whether or not it was deliberate or accidental, I don't know. Because they're always, you know, in a tweed jacket because they're professors. Right. You know, they all work at a college. Or they're in like a polo shirt, which is, again, a timeless thing. Yeah. But I find that 1970 James Bond is such a dated James Bond. And I think more so than every other decade of James Bond.

Even more than the 80s James Bond. Right. I mean, I think in general, the 70s are not looked back on as a decade of coolness the way the 60s are. True, but a gritty coolness, maybe. Gritty coolness? Yeah, like you're, you know, your taxi driver, you're, and I know I'm coming in this conversation. We're talking about fashion. That's what we're talking about. So, no, but I was saying how like, dated the suits are in diamonds. Yeah. And I was also talking about how, how timeless he looks in the 60s, like that three-piece golden-eye suit,

Thunderball suit, arrow. The gold-finger one you mean? That's what I meant. That is such a timeless suit. And then moving into the, I feel like even in the 80s, his suits weren't terrible. You know?

Yeah, I agree. They were a decent cut, 90s. Although I would say like first movie, Brasnin, I feel like that's a weird cut Brioni suit. Anyway.

We should do a fashion ranking episode. We're going to have to. It's coming. It's coming hard and it's coming fast. Yeah. What, who left off? Who called Dye another day? Was that you?

I mean, diamonds are forever, James? Yes, I did. That was 17. 17? That was my 17. Yeah, that was his 17, I believe. My 17 is Dying another day.

That's it. We're talking. Okay. I'm gonna. Now, can you guys refresh my memory which one this is? This is in the North Korean peninsula. Okay. Timely. Okay.

Timely. It's where he's exchanging jewels for diamonds. For arms? Or he's stopping diamond smuggling? Good question. And it all runs together. And same with the world is not enough. These two cold opens feel like very similar to me, even though they go in different directions. but it's just like, oh, he's at another bad guy meeting in a town, a village somewhere in a mountain place. Oh, that is Tomorrow Never Diesie. Yeah.

Very Tomorrow Never Diesy. It starts with the surfing. Oh, that's right. That's right. The surfing. Oh, I put this too high. One thing I did like about the surfing. That was so gratuitous.

Yeah, one thing I liked about it, though. I will say. is that the surfboard was packed with all his goodies. That feels like something like snake eyes would have in G.I. Joe. Yes, oh, 100%. But not James Bond surfing. In surfing into North Korea? Are there even like surf beaches in the Korean Peninsula?

Maybe there are. I mean, there's that joke in Back to the Future too, where they're in the alley and the poster behind Doc is surf Vietnam. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like there are that area of the Pacific seems to have some pretty decent Didn't they surf an apocalypse now?

Yeah. There you go. All right. I think we're okay up there. At least they didn't play the beach boys in this one. This is entirely true. Entirely true. Well, see, now, to me, that's at least going like, here we go, we're having some fun.

I still think he's surfing in this and they're going like, take this very seriously. Yes. Well, they are. It's shot weirdly. This was Lee Tamerai. Tara Hurie. Is that how we say? Tamarind.

Is it not? It might be that pronunciation. Again, we're lovers, not experts. Right. Who had done previously the movie, We Were Warriors, which is the New Zealand movie where, I mean, it's about the native culture.

It's a great movie. But watching that movie in no way makes me go, this guy should do a James Bond movie, much in the fact that I will, we're going to take a second to digress here. This is my Star Wars digression. of the week. You get three of those.

I get three of those. I'll take them all. I am so happy that Colin Trevinoe is not... Trevoro. Trevoro. What is it with me? Director's last name? Steven Spialberg.

Spielberg, Al. Is not directing the third in the trilogy. I'm a little relieved, too. It's almost like she finally watched Jurassic World. Yeah. I think Kathleen Kennedy had only seen the box office receipts and had not watched the movie. I also think, like, they had that thing with Lord and Miller on the Han Solo movie.

And to a certain extent, whatever reshoots they did on Rogue One, and she's just like, why are we taking a gamble on some of these as yet completely proven directors? Right. And let's just go in there and get some, well, I don't know, Ron Howard's solution. Well, it doesn't, it doesn't, it sounds like she just, they want people, directors who will, yes, and, whatever. the producer, producer.

I can't talk today. I understand. Whatever the producers are saying or whatever Disney wants, they want that. And I feel like Ron Howard's at a point in his career where he has made such a string

of failures that right now, I mean, think about his last five or six movies. They all were pretty big bombs. I don't know. That third Dan Brown movie, Inferno, was really good. Did you watch it?

Yes, it's horrible. Okay. He did the Chris Hemsworth, Moby Dick, movie. Oh, right. Which failed miserably. He did the Chris Hemsworth Racing movie, which failed miserably.

He did, is that what it's called? Yeah. And, you know, there's a couple others, this is a string of failures. And as much they love Ron Howard, it is at a point where I think he's just like, all right, well. Couldn't be worse. Yeah, I'll just go, I'll just go point a camera at fucking the Millennium Falcon. But you don't think like that's his only option, or do you? No, I think that's what he wants to do right now.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think that if he were to get this third movie, I wouldn't be upset about it. The guy knows what he's doing. He's a very capable director.

And in this case, I don't think it's altogether a bad thing. Like, I'm not a huge fan in the Marvel movies, but to have one person overseeing everything and keeping the tone and style consistent, which I think Kathleen Kennedy, right? Yes. Has done a pretty good job with so far?

So I almost feel like it should defer to her if they're getting weird. Has she done a great job so far? I mean, you've done this. You've done your repeat watchings of Force Awakens. Yeah. And I haven't really done a repeat viewing of it. But how is it? I think it's pretty good.

I think the real test is going to be episode eight because Ryan Johnson is a bit more of an uteur, but I think he's definitely in line. They got along really well, Captain Kennedy. And it's sort of talk is that it does something a little different. So I'm very curious. I think that'll be the sign of where this is all heading. Yeah. All right.

All right. Star Wars Minute. Yeah. Thank you. I just had to get that up to chest. I couldn't believe. When he got that job, I was just like, what the fuck? Have you seen that movie?

And I have not seen the movie, what is it called? Regarding Henry? No. Something Henry? What is it? Book of Henry. Regarding Henry has Harrison Ford, though. That's Harrison Ford.

There we go. Yeah. But I haven't seen Book of Henry, and I have not heard great things about. No, I haven't either. Yeah, it seems like there was a trend to grab directors. hot off their first indie success, but I don't think that means you're proven. Well, I mean, to go, when I can't, I, I was never more disappointed in a movie than Jurassic world.

Ever? Having gone to see it in the theater because I, I, I, I, like, see Tomorrow Never Dies. And I held off, listen, I had my choice between seeing Titanic and that movie, and I chose tomorrow I never dies. But I, you know, I waited a few weeks, and it just kept making more and more money. And I was like, it must be. great. I love Jurassic Park anyway. Sure. I'll go see it. And then I saw it. I was like

the dialogue in that movie. It's not good, but it's no worse than the two sequels after the first one, right? That's true. That's true. Right. Disappointment makes it sound like you had this high expectation. Was that just based on the box office? The amount of money it was making. Equals good. I was just like... That's millennial nostalgia. Well, yeah.

I mean... And I should have known that going in, but I just couldn't... And I love Chris Pratt, and I think he's great, and I think Bryce Dallas Howard. Oh. We're back to run on Howard. Wait a second. Oh, I think she's all so good, given the material that was written for her. Uh-oh. Ronnie.

Now let's get Clint Howard in a Star Wars movie, and we're really talking. Right. Is he not? Clint Howard? I feel like he'll probably be in. I feel like you've got to throw him in. Probably get him in there. Yeah, he's got to be.

Put him in the canteen. That's when Han meets up with Chaka. Chaka, Han? That was the myth that he played Chaka and Land of the Lost. I wasn't being mean about the way he looked. I meant that. That's an amazing myth. Okay, so, sorry, Star Wars Minute was over, and North Korea, we were talking about.

Diamonds. It's long. I mean, you get your first hovercraft chase in a Bond movie? Finally. I mean, we've all been clamoring for that for 20 years. Is it the first hovercraft chase? Is it the first appearance of a hovercraft? No.

There's another one. Diamonds are forever. He takes the hovercraft. The big hovercraft. Yeah. Yeah. Over the glades. Yeah.

No. Over into Amsterdam. am from England. The large hovercraft. The ferry, the hovercraft ferry. Yeah, right. Oh, he's just in a speedboat and live my time. Yeah.

You're thinking of a fan boat. I am thinking of a fan boat, which is not an all. You're thinking of Gentle Ben, which brings us back to Clint Howard. And we've done it. This might be all over the place. All the rest of the pre-totiles are fine. Good night. The point is, you know, you get to see a lot of sports cars explode.

The hovercrafts are armed with torpedoes of sorts. No, mortars. They're mortar shells. I do like the... He gets captured at the end. I like the diamonds exploding into Zau's face. Yeah. That's cool.

I don't buy that they are unremovable. No. Do they say that? Do they plot on their removable? They don't, but he still has them. I think, well, it's a style choice. Yeah, is it... He's wearing that wound as a badge of honor?

If that happened to me, I'd consider it. But I also don't think the skin is really going to keep those in their infection-free and everything. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing is I know the title sequence tells his story of torture, and the sequence after that is him coming back with that bad fake beard. I know that's not part of the pre-toddle, but in my mind it kind of is associated because it's coming right on the heels of that.

It's the same thread, and I don't care for that. Does your wig d'ar also encompassed beards, or is that a separate type of radar? No, no, no. Beard dar, yeah, applies. Any hair applications in the air. All encompassed under wig dar. Yeah, Merkins, for sure. I'll get into that.

Your eyebrows situations. You need a Merkin check, call me. Does Whoopi Goldberg ever have eyebrows? I don't know. Does Whoopi Goldberg ever have eyebrows? Is that the question? In a movie, does she have, do they throw eyebrows on her at any point? Why?

Does she not have eyebrows? No. Huh. Not to my knowledge. And I've seen a lot of Star Trek with her in it. Yeah, that's true. And I've seen her on the view. I'm just going to Google a picture of Whoopi Goldberg right now,

because I feel like you guys are just choosing to forget this from history. Hmm, we're rewriting it. All right. Who said that one last? You did, right? Me? No, I have not said my 17 yet. Oh, say you're 17.

Okay. My 17 is for your eyes only, first time on the board. Oh. Oh, okay. Yeah. For your eyes only. Okay. Okay, 16.

What do I have? I can't. Oh, okay. I have Quantum of Salas. Wow. I know. I'm on the board for CQ of S. 16 for me is for your eyes only.

Two. Oh, boy. For your eyes only, but that is a no talk round, a no talk round. We're looking at pictures. Whoopi Goldberg does not have eyebrows. I don't think she plucks them. I don't know. There's no way to know.

Someone's even circled them. Oh, my God. I didn't even search for eyebrows. She really doesn't. Huh. All right. That's just my question. It's interesting.

She still has a very emotive face. Does she draw them on though? Obviously in that picture, there's nothing there. She does not draw them on. But I'm wondering if she's done a movie where they were like, you should have eyebrows in this. Right. Anyway, that's my question.

If there were any hoop eyes out there. Okay. Number 16 for me, on Her Majesty's Secret Service. That's two. This is a no-talk round. Oh, man. No-talk round. 16.

We are 16 in. And just for the record, after this, for me, is when they start to get good. Okay. These are the ones that I understand. I completely understand. I'm kind of past pulling out the weaknesses and there's some stuff I'm excited about. Okay.

15 for me is Specter. Two for Specter. Oh. Two for Spector. That's very, very good, very good. 15, that's 14. 15. The Living Daylights.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Jesus. Jesus Christ. I get a Jesus Christ from you. maniac. I'm a lunatic. I'm a lunatic. I'm out of control.

That is crazy. 15 for me, license to kill. First on the list. Oh, that's interesting. No talk round. Wow. Alliances are being formed and then destroyed in an instant here.

On to 14. We're going to... 14. That was an NTR. Just let's take a break because we're almost halfway through. Here are the films that have not even been on the board yet. Casino Royale, Golden Eye, The Spy Who Loved Me, Octopussy, Goldfinger, Skyfall,

and from Russia with Love. Those are the only films that have not been mentioned. That have not been mentioned. Yeah. Okay. Not been mentioned. Okay. 14. Yeah.

For your eyes only. It's time to talk. For your eyes only. Well. So just a quick refresh. This is the... What is this? This is the...

At the graveyard? He's at the graveyard. Visiting Tracy, leaving flowers for Tracy. He's approached by a priest who said he's needed. He gets in a helicopter. He's thinking, oh, this is universal exports. I have to go to MI6. Right.

But, oh, boy, is it a trap? It's none of them blow-filled, remotely piloting. him, but without being called Blofeld, because legally, they couldn't call him Blowfeld. Yeah, he's got a remote control. And a wheelchair and a neck brace? Yes, and he also kills the pilot with like a, is it another sonic death? Yeah, it is through the headphones.

Oh, another Sonic death. But isn't it, this one is like electric, doesn't he get electrocuted or something? Oh, I always thought he just died from the ears, from the ear sounds. I think there's even a little lightning or something, but a little shock. Yeah. So the stunts in this should not be diminished. They're incredible. There's probably some foreground miniatures and stuff in there.

But ultimately, it's all in service of one big joke and fuck you to Kevin McClory for having the rights to Thunderball and Blofeld. And even so much so that they throw in that infamous line, I'll buy you a stainless steel delicatessen. What does that mean? Blofeld says it to Bonn and it's some kind of a dig at Kevin McClory. Yeah. It's an inside dig. It's an inside dig. Did he buy a deli or something with the money from Thunderball?

We have to look this up every time. It's ridiculous. Okay, so I don't like this. This is, you know, semi low on the list. We're starting to get up towards the ones I enjoy. Yeah. I do like the continuity. I do like that he's at Tracy Bond's grave.

That's good. Big thumbs up for me. That gets a lot of points. Yeah. That gets more points than a not a bond being killed that doesn't actually bond. You get more in the positive. for the continuity than you do and the negative

for not being him. The, do you have a deli answer? I do. Okay. I don't want to cut you off. Go ahead. No.

Oh, okay. The, the way in which the danger is, it never actually feels like he's in danger. Yeah. Right.

And I find that to be a little just like, yeah. The segment is one note. It's like they found, we found our stunt. Now let's just kind of make it up on the day.

Reverse engineer it. I feel that about Specter. We'll talk about that later. Yeah. From Cubby Broccoli's autobiography called When the Snow Melts. I'll buy you a delicatessen in stainless steel. It refers to Italian mafia members offering this as a bribe to get something in exchange. A delicatessen in stainless steel was and still is the top of the line quality.

Simply put, your food is better prepared on a surface that is easily cleaned and will not have bacteria cleaning to it. Unlike a wooden cutting board or other. surfaces. Also keep in mind that many vendors during the early 1900 sold their food on the streets of New York and carts. If someone had a shopper delicatessen, they were obviously doing well. So he's likening the fact that Kevin McClureo is like a common mafia thug offering to bribe someone with a delicatessen and stainless steel. What a long way to go to dig someone. That's a gentle rip if you're going to put one in. Yeah. And is this another one? I mean, It seems like Bond at this point would be wary of getting in a vehicle with someone he doesn't know.

How many times has that happened? Yeah, I know. I mean, why is this so middling for you, man? I think just because every... Keep talking. I'm going to now take my turn to the restroom. This is amazing. I love it.

Every... I don't know. Everything about it to me is middle of the road. Even the, like, it just, it's kind of shot on a dull day. Like, it's kind of cloudy. Right. and there's not a like, I don't know, it's not, it's cool to look at when they do some of the stunts, but the payoff is kind of a one-note thing, and it takes a while to get there, and it just, I don't know,

it's a little dreary to me, just looking. It also feels like the, I mean, it does have what I like, which is a cold open that has nothing to do with the story. That's true, except this one's got something to do with the overall story and axe to grind. that's true but it is it is really the blowfeld voice too

is bad it's just dumb it's just dumb it's so cartoony it's like abracine and few to a kill this butterfly to my collection

no like they're just cartoon voices basically and it doesn't fit but if you go through that oh is the auction

yeah I don't know okay there it is so many middling. We don't have a ton to say about it. That's true. All right. Number 14 for you, Matt. 14 for me. Happens in Mexico City. It's Specter. It's time to talk. Specter. I like how in this, also, the action just starts picking up as far as our talking concerns. It's so hard to get a no-talk round as we get later and later into it.

That's true. That's true. Let's talk about it. It's the lowest ranked Daniel Craig Cold Open by any of us. no you put one saws right i understand i get it i'll explain when we get there i get it um for matt and i though it's the lowest ranked uh opening tracking shot is fine it's not i'm just tired of tracking shot i'm tired of one quote unquote one take tracking shots that may or may not actually be one take uh because corsese did it better um is it the only real tracking shot in a bond movie like i mean for the sake of doing one of those big tracking shots. Not, I'm sure there were tracking shots, but like one that is clearly like watch this tracking shot.

It's the only time that's ever been done, I think, right? I'm thinking of the parade sequence in Brazil. I know, Thunderball, but he's, that's got a lot of cuts in it where he's being, where he's hiding. Yeah, and I think that just wasn't done until, like, Touch of Evil did it. Yeah. And then it was like, whoa. I remember watching this. Chinatown did it better.

Yeah. I remember watching this, liking the part where he brings the building down, but then when the helicopter thing ended going like, wait, that's the payoff. It does fizzle out quite a bit. It's just a helicopter fight is what we're talking about here. I was confused.

I almost thought I missed something. I agree. I think that the helicopter, the danger posed in a helicopter with James Bond is never that high. We've seen him in many helicopters over the years. But it was a letdown. The fact that it ends with him like,

I don't know. You almost want him to fall out of the plane and somehow, or out of the helicopter and somehow figure out a way to land by himself, either by jumping into another aircraft that happens to be flying below him or what? Yeah. I don't know.

The people, I mean, I guess the danger is the people below. Or just a hill crash? I don't, yeah. Right. I mean, there are some cool, like, gravity things that happen where they're moving within the middle of the helicopter. But even the facade of that building, we've discussed this before, too, feels like it was done practical, but then everything is so processed by the end

that it just doesn't look real or threatening. Right, right. And that's one thing, like, as far back as Casino Royale, and even Quantum of Salas, with its cold opening, everything felt like there was some real danger there, some, like it was real in the space, the parkour sequence, the crane, all that. And Casino Rale feels thrilling to me. But this, this didn't, it felt a little, just a little tired, like everybody working on it, because I think they shot this last for the movie, too. Oh, wow.

Just feels a little tired. So you would describe it as being a dud. Well, I would say just a little, a little sluggish. maybe. And for me being a sort of born in Roger Moore era, tone-wise, it misses in one respect that there's a scene whenever I see it when he's falling down the building and he lands on the couch. I know I brought this up earlier. The couch shot, to me always screams out that he could have gone two different ways. And they chose the way that I don't prefer, which is he lands on the couch, which I thought it would have been great. If he landed next to the couch.

I agree. And looks over at the couch like, I was so close. That would also be referencing the Roger Moore option that they didn't take. Exactly. It always felt to me that Daniel Craig's Bond shouldn't land on a couch. Exactly. Daniel Craig's Bond is the guy that just misses it. He lands next to the couch.

And he takes the hard way. He's the guy. He's the James Bond that goes through the drywall instead of the James Bond that goes over. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like in Casino Royale, when he fucking pounce through that drywall, it's like, like, ah, this is what this guy's going to do. So for that instance, it does not,

none of the cutesy stuff works with the Daniel Craig Bond. Yeah. Yeah. That is a great point. And I haven't been annoyed this much in a while. So now I'm thinking about it and I'm very annoyed again. Right. But that would say a lot about the character in that he's not getting the breaks,

but he's still, you know, triumphing over it in a way. I mean, he didn't get a break, a huge break there when he accidentally took down a building he didn't mean to take down. Right, right. There's something about the tracking shot to watch. I find myself being drawn to watching the extras and I feel like I can tell this is the 12th time they've done it. There's something about the tracking shot like in Goodfellows where it has life running through it the entire time. This feels staged. It feels like everybody knows exactly where they're going to the point that it detracts from the casualness of it or something. Like it's very self-aware. The tracking shot

is too self-aware, I think. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And that's why it's the lowest ranked Daniel Craig one for me.

Me too. And for Matt. Yeah. Okay. What number are we on? 14. This is mine. 14.

From Russia with love. First time on the board. Oh, interesting. Russia with love. Matt Monroe? The greatest man. whoever lived. Yeah, okay.

That's interesting that you have that one. All right. Right. Right there. Number 13. 13 for me. It's 13. From Rousha with love.

Ooh. Whoa. Look at that. Wow. I don't know how to feel about this. So the answer is I'm not going to feel great about it. Oh. Number 13 for me.

Octopozy. Octopo. Wow, really. Now, I'm going to just say that your preference, well, we'll talk about it later. Sorry. It's getting insane, right? I know. Come on.

All right, 13 for me is a first timer on the board as well. And that is skyfall. Skyfall. Skyfall. Okay. We will stand tall. Now, before we move on to number 12, we are literally at the halfway point here. I will also mention this is where I would put

Never Say Never Again because I really do like that cold open. I think it's fun. It's got a little twist. It's playing up the fact that Connery's a little older. It's doing what it needs to do. But we're halfway through and the only films not mentioned so far are two golds and a royale.

Goldfinger, Golden Eye, and Casino Royale. Wow. That is surprising. Yeah. Wait, where is? It sure is. For you? Oh, I found it. it. Okay. So anything you guys want to say at this halfway point? Are you into the good ones for you? Because I'm into the good ones. Oh yeah. I think so. I'm into the good ones. I mean like when we're talking, Spector, I voted that down a while ago. So it doesn't mean the discussion, but the ones I'm choosing. Like, right. I think all the way from license to kill, which was 15 for me from Rush with Love and Skyfall. I still really like them. But yeah, rank as high as others. I honestly can't remember, never say never again. So I don't know where to place that. That's fair enough. Okay. Yeah. Well, let me just say.

they kill a horse. Oh. No, that's at the end of the movie. I know. Oh, off the cliff? He's saying, you can't remember the movie. I'm just saying. Is that off a cliff?

Yeah. They kill it? It looks like there's no chance that horse is surviving. Unless it's one of those diving horses from old-time circuses. Mm-hmm. In which case, it survived, but it had a lifetime of abuse. He was immediately shot. All right, number 12, we're into the second half, so two blades with number 12.

I have a little something. called you only live twice that hurt Matt I could tell Matt Goreley yeah all right okay number 12 to you Myra number 12 to me is is Paul McCartney's classic live and let die

that's two for L and LD and for me we'll go Dr. No that's two for Dr. No so this whole round put Dr. No live and let die and you only live twice into the two category they're on the threshold of getting talked about. There's going to be a lot of talking about coming up.

It's very exciting. 11 for me is view to a kill. Well. Did that get three? No. That has two now. It has two now. Who has not voted for it yet?

Mr. Goreley. Okay. I don't even have to look down on my paper. I know the answer to that question. We are so... These are all good. Yeah, these are all great. Well, no, because of some of mine...

Some people... So much higher. That's true. That's right. Than you, bastards. So we are at number 11. Is that correct?

That's right. License to Kill? That's two for license to kill now. And my number 11 is a view to a kill. It's time to discuss a view to a kill. You like misdirected me there. I felt like you were going to even go longer without mentioning due to a kill.

I really like this opening sequence. I don't think it's as good as some of the others, but I do like it. What can be said about this that we haven't said already? Because we just did this film. It is, it is,

would be higher, I think, on all of our lists if the Beach Boys didn't kick in. Maybe it'd be lower for Matt. Well, the way you would...

I don't think I would... I wouldn't penalize it for that. But, yeah, if it wasn't there, I wouldn't miss it if I didn't know. I'm punishing it because of that? Yes.

I'm knocking it down a couple. I, What do I like about this one? Well, I like another O involved. He's dead. I love, I'm a sucker for a bond on a skis. Yeah, that's big. Yeah.

I also probably knock it down one or two for the iceberg boat. That is a little too cushy for being issued by the British government. See, I'm all in for that because that's what this movie is. And I think the Beach Boys song actually helps right away go,

like get used to it. And the iceberg boat is a punchline on a good sequence that has some action but is also funny and doesn't take itself too seriously. Do they do it with miniatures or did they build an iceberg boat? It looks real to me. Oh, I think it's a miniature. You do? I do. No, because I think the icebergs are too real.

The water looks too real. I think it's just the facade. It's just the top piece. on a boat. Yeah. Right, but after Beach Boys, the iceberg boat seems like very, you know, like Kubrick did it or something. Yeah, sure. Sure.

Never seen anything like this. This is their China. It's sober. Yeah. God, I don't know. I love the music in this sequence. I love the squid work. Right.

So this is that. No, what am I thinking? Spy who love me. Spy love me. Okay. This is John Barry. This is John Barry, which then he probably didn't know that they were going to bust into the beach boys. Maybe he provided score.

What? He used to do those kind of things. I'm pretty sure he made that call. Because I think I read that in that Burling game book about the music of Bond. Yeah, I should have reread that for this. But yeah, I think so. I also learned that from this movie, I learned how to say look in Russian, Schmatri. Which they also do in Red Dawn.

So they were really hitting that word with me. Around the summers of 84 and 85, I think. Oh, it was a good years. Good years. You got a lot of use out of that? Yeah. Shmattri. Schmattri.

Shmattri. Shmachry. Napovitch. Yeah, I think it's... The ski, I mean, it's really the skiing that gets it so high for me. Yeah. And the fact that he advanced snowboarding. Yeah.

Right. You mean, right. There's a great. this is the thing that I think for your eyes only lacks. It's one stunt, not particularly well executed style-wise. It is, like, stunt work-wise. But this opening sequence has a lot of good cause and effect. Like the, like, carabiner rope to the guy's thing, which busts him off, which gives

Bond the snowboarding thing. Everything kind of relies on the last thing. Right. I thought it was well done on the storyboarded or whatever, yeah. Yeah. And I do like the beautiful blonde in the sub. And the fact that it, I think it's something like a nine-hour trip to Alaska that they say. At least, yeah.

That the, they're fine with, like, the mission's not that critical that they need to transfer maybe to a helicopter or something. They're willing to give him nine hours to get to Alaska. As of this recording, our view to a kill episode hasn't come out. But I noticed in watching this last week that his white leather snow gloves, their zipper has a little dangling bee on them, like for Bond. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Check it out.

I mean, gloft. You could be a, it could be a thing you're wrong about. How could I be wrong? No, it could be like a barber

or something like that. It could be a company. Oh, or Britain. Maybe, but there's a slight chance it could be a company B, but I'm more inclined to believe,

snow gloves or something. I'm more inclined to believe Matt is correct that it is. It is for James Bond. It has to be. All right. So, view to a kill.

We have talked about it. And we are on number. Ten. Is this to me? Yeah. Okay, Golden Eye First time on the board for Golden Eye First time.

First time. Golden Eye comes out of Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Okay, so number 12. 12? Wait, 10. 10, sorry, 10. It's right here. I wrote it down, it's right here.

This whole thing has been a sham. It's right here, and it says tomorrow never dies on. It's time. Oh, boy. To talk tomorrow never die. Okay, I need a refresher. Here's what I like about this one. Yeah.

We are, obviously, I'm the one who is ranked at the highest, and I'm going to tell you why I like it. Okay. You see every key player in MI6 in this. Big deal. You see Robinson. You see... That's what you're giving it points for? You see M.

You see stuffy... That's no feet. You see stuffy naval admiral. You see Russian counterpart admiral. You see Bonda up there doing a mission while the entire MI6 is watching on surveillance. You just as well be satisfied with it, like, MI6 Christmas Christmas Christmas Christmas. is literally the highest stakes of any cold open in James Bond history. He's preventing a nuclear warhead.

Is that true? He's preventing actually two nuclear warheads from going off. Let's see. Hold on. Yeah, go ahead. Look through your tiny list of garbage. And I will tell you why this is great. The stakes are the highest.

We do a thing where we're looking at this not just as does it have anything to do with the mission. Yes, it does have something to do with the mission, which is normally I'd like to take points off for that, but it's, he's so improvising. He's got the lighter. He does a little magic trick where the lighter isn't there. And then he punches a guy in a face. And then he takes his plane. There's higher stakes. Where? Living daylights. He might fail his training mission. On the rock of Gibraltar. Good point. Good point. So your actual answer is, I'm correct, right? On that. The stakes are the highest.

Stakes are high. That doesn't mean it's... What do you think about the fact that they're all... I love it. They're all in there watching. They're all cheering for him when he makes it out. But see, I actually think that's a weakness rather than a strength. Because it also sets your film up for a bit of failure because it's like he's succeeded

at something way bigger than or at least carpable. Way than World War III? Yeah. Which carver is going to start? See, the whole movie is so over the top. But boring. I'm going to agree. with you on this point that I agree to say my name.

Matt, Oh, sorry. Matt Myra. No. Oh. Yay. Yay. It's weird.

He was pointing at Gourley, but he said, hey. I couldn't bring myself my will to say it. No, I'm going to agree with you, Matt Gourley, on the point that I feel that any technical surveillance, any, like, computer tracking weakens the, the scene. Because I feel like, There's so many people there. Your point of like, you see everybody. It doesn't feel like he's out on his own in the, in the, in the, well, that's a problem.

We get to later in your Schafalls. Yeah, I agree. Right. That's why I have it at number 13. But it's, it's, it feels like a big party. Everyone's there. And I really liked that. Okay.

I really liked that. And I really like the stakes. I like the fact that there is a nuclear, I like the fact that, A, they send a cruise missile to destroy this arms, bizarre, and I like that Bond now has to get the nuclear missiles out of there before the cruise missile comes in.

That's a good... I will say I didn't remember a ton about this when I was... It was foggy my memory. You are giving it some points in your recollection. It is better than I remember. Yeah. Now, I was kind of fast forwarding through this this morning at about 8.30. I understand. The only way to watch this movie. I understand.

Yeah. But, so... So I kind of missed the part of that he gets in the plane and then there is a guy who was previously in the back seat. Uh-huh. And then how- He punched and knocked out. Okay, that's what I missed. So that's why he wakes up later.

I feel like I could take on the whole Chechnine Empire by myself. All right. Yeah, okay, maybe I'd bump it up above. Diamonds are forever, maybe. Oh, thanks for being so gracious. And maybe die another day for me. But I'm not going to change my list for the sake of giving it. Okay.

Okay. Well, I just want to, I said my piece about Torne Never Dies, and I feel like no one has said why it was so bad in a logical way. Well, but remember, we are. Remember, yeah. You have, do you have all three left to lose? Logic strikes. Well, I think, I think your argument is persuasive. Thank you.

I think so, too. Thank you. Yeah. I don't think it's so bad. Remember, we are, I mean, I guess some people rank this a little lower. I might have to, like, put out a large essay in defense of Tomorrow Never Dies. I look forward to that. I wonder when you'll have the time to do that. I have plenty of flights.

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Star Trek. And we went back and forth podium style and Hardwick was supposedly the judge. And Jonah was there just to tell us both that we had his own podium and he was there to just tell us we were both stupid for arguing about this. But I think that a, I think a live debate, maybe we just do a TEDxie. That is more compelling than 90% of the TED talks. Oh, of course. Yeah.

I mean, I just feel like I should start my own podcast called in defense of Pierce Brosman. Ladies and gentlemen, today I'd like to talk to you about the proper way to use a Rumba vacuum. Oh. You're doing it wrong. All right. All right. Number 10 for me, which means it's a discussion round, higher than I thought it would end up on this thing.

Yeah. Live and let die. Beepo boop. Beboop. Be boop. Be boop boop. Beboop boop. Boop.

I like it because it's such an outlier. It's so weird bond isn't in it. It's got kind of like Diamonds Forever, three different distinct little segments. Yes. It's odd, but I really like it. It's weird. It's, um...

I think it's intriguing. Yeah, intriguing. You're not sure why what these things mean yet. You know, I do... Global. Global. Cross. Communication.

Because they're... Where Jamaica, New Orleans, and New York. Yeah. Jamaica... New Orleans and New York? United Nations. United Nations. That's right.

I mean, it starts very Dr. Noe. Right. The funeral procession in New Orleans... Yeah. With the practical effect that is just a camera being paused. For the coffin? For the kind to get picked up. But let's talk about in the world of live and let die, how does that work?

Are there like... Oh, in the world of a let die, I just assumed that the... There's no bottom. It's a false thing. No, I know, but how do they latch onto the body? Well, I think it just goes. It goes very hard. It goes...

No. Yeah. Oh, what is your, what is your thing? I'm not saying. I think I have a solution, but you're saying that that body's laying on the street. They put the coffin over it with an open bottom, and then something slides underneath it. Okay. Here's my solution.

Yeah. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. The lid of the coffin has multiple claws in it, and those claws pick up the body. Yeah, it's got to be something more like that. I'm going to give you even a lower tech, less carnivaly version, where the coffin has spikes coming down. Yeah. And it literally punctures because at that point, you know.

Now we're talking about, but we're going to have to make those barbed spikes because they'll have to grab on. And they're like a shark's teeth. They have reverse. Sure. Yeah. Little things that will actually lift and separate. Yeah. Okay.

Claw game. Mine's a claw game. Claw game. Yeah. This is not the waiting room to a Caros restaurant. It's not going to be right now. Oh, man. I go to Caros right now.

Right. So we've got that. We've got the other audio death that was mentioned. Yes. So in the U.N., it's a piercing sound that, Does it cause a heart attack or is it just your ears hurt so much? It's a guy. He does it with a TNT detonator.

No, this one is a sound. It's a sound. And then you got Death by Fake Snake. Death by Fake, green yellow snake. Death by, a snake that looks like it was one out of a claw game. Yeah. Oh, so that's so much like a total. Yeah, this is interesting.

Yeah. There might be subtle hidden meanings. Yeah, and the TNT ear dynamite almost looks like the controls of a claw game. Tune. Now you're stretching it. tune in to our hidden claw game, TED talk. Yeah. But that, the live and let die, sorry, the New Orleans death is, seems like a lot of pageantry and a lot of extras.

I'm sure you guys have covered this already, but. Yeah, but I like those. There is a lot of like go so far for a death. In fact, we talk about that in, wasn't there one of those in Vitoa Kill? Oh, the butterfly death. Yes. And then, and I likened it to something else. In one of these films, what is...

Well, this occurs a lot, because I can almost look at every one of these, like living daylights, when they put that sliding glass door compressor to kill that guy. There's a lot of, like, having to stake out a location and prepare it for a murder that could have just been easily done by a gun. Well, even the view to a kill, blimp murder. There is no reason for those stairs to turn to a slide. There is no reason other than that. Except he knows he's possibly going to do that.

Yeah. What was the other one that I was trying to think of. Any of your trap doors, they're going to cause you to fall to your doubt. I mean, that has reuse value, though. Sure. And obviously, I guess so to stop. Do you think the slide is really just there because Zoran loves going wee and sliding out of the blimp? No, he's there to kill.

That's there. That's to kill. That's all that is. It just looks cool. Yeah, the mystery, the hopping around. Plus, I also like that we don't get to be, we don't have to be distracted like we are in our Magic's Secret Service by this. Who's this new Bond guy?

I don't want to deal with that. Give me a cult. Give me a intro song to get used to them. You know what I mean? Okay. That's true. That's true. All right.

Number 10, live and let die. Okay. Number nine, I have Thunderball. That's two for Thunderball. Oh. Guys, that's three for Thunderball. Wow. That's time to discuss.

You just had Thunderball just now? Thunderball. How do you feel about us ranking things similar? It's amazing. Thunderball is ranked so high for me for one reason and one reason only. The Aston Martin reappears. That's it. See, it's ranked pretty low for me.

I have it at 18. I like him using a jetpack. Yes. I like him being safety conscience, putting on a helmet. A smart helmet. I like him using the gadgets we've established on the previous movie for James Bond. I love the Aston Martin having the thing go up.

When I was watching it again, I was noticing, well, why have all the defense mechanisms that you have at your disposal, are you choosing to use water? And then I realized, oh, it just ties into the Thunderball titles. That's why they used water. I don't know about that. I think... That's why they did it. You know that?

You read it? No, I mean, it just... Water's getting on the camera lens, and then water comes down and the Thunderball title comes up. You don't think it happened in reverse. I don't know. He was... Morris Binder was notorious. late on all these things.

I'm wondering how much communication was ahead of time. To me, this is something that Honor Her Majesty's Secret Service suffers from too much, and that's the over-ramping of the fights, like the speed. Oh, the speed ramping. Right, right, right. Seems goofy. The water cannon's dumb.

And even the jetpack just seems like, we got it. Let's use it, even though it doesn't really do much. The whole thing feels like when Connery's era was starting to get bloated, where they're just like, let's do it for the sake of doing it. Well, I mean, bloated is the perfect way to describe Thunderball. That's true. Yeah. That's true.

Yeah. That's a trud. Water bloated. I feel like that's going to be our last one. We'll see. But speaking of water cannons, I got to take a leave. I do too. I feel terrible about this.

I can't leave it by himself. No, I mean, you can. There's two bathrooms. Are there? We're drinking water and coffee right now. So, Matt, speaking of, so you tread water for a few moments. Not going to be a problem. That's really all I do.

While they're gone, I just want to defend Pierce-Prosden. I can stand to me. Wait? No, you don't have. There's two bathrooms. Oh, that's all right. You can go use the other one. Well, we shouldn't leave you alone. Who knows what you're going to say about us?

Well, that's very true. Why is there so much peeing happening? Well, I've had... I understand. I just came from a bunch of coffee. I had more coffee, which I'm not typically a turbo coffee drinker, and then water, and then all that talk about Thunderball. We did talk about water hosts.

It is weird how the... Like, what I'm not... I want to know is practically how the exhaust works on the Asin Martin D.B. 5. Do you know what I mean? No. The exhaust pipes are where the water comes out. Oh, yeah. So how is his exhaust working? Where is the exhaust going? Yeah. Well, I mean, too, when you break it down and think about how the machine guns and the headlights would require so much mechanism in there that it would be like in the way of the actual tires. Like they would extend into the wheel wells. So we're just along for the ride. All right. I'm going to tag out. James. We're talking...

We're talking... We're talking... Got it. ...D.5. Oh, well, I love... By the way, I'm a big car guy. Oh, are you? So I do love the DB5.

Well, let's talk about the fact that what I was just discussing with Matt was that I can't... Mechanically in my mind, I don't understand how the hose... The water cannon is working. A, it's coming out of the exhaust pipes. Seems to be a problem. Right. Because those are still needed for exhaust. B, it seems to me that with all the bulletproofing and the mechanisms of, for instance, the bulletproof shield that comes in and up, I feel like he's going to have a hard time getting the jetpack into the trunk.

I feel like that shield's going to be down. Probably cutting down his trunk space. I'm sorry, his boot space. And then I'm looking at this tank, this water tank that he's going to have to have. Is that next to the gas tank? Does this car even run on gas? Has Q figured out some weird way of running the car on hydrogen fuel that's coming from the water tanks? Right.

And water is very heavy. Yeah. So it's going to slow the car down. immensely. Yeah. Yeah, I hear what you're saying with that. Do you know what? I had a Jeep Wrangler.

I had a couple of them, but that was the car that you could most notice. These were both two-door Wranglers, Wrangler Sports, straight six. Okay. But it was the car you could most notice the gas. What do you mean notice the gas? after you filled up the tank, how much heavier the car was after you put 19 gallons of gas in it. Right. The car just moved differently.

Yeah. So my question again is, is there anything done to the engine to help us? Does he get a power boost? Right. Or is it all taken up? A turbo boost maybe. Yes. Is it all just taken up by ejector seats?

Water tanks to hold all the water. It doesn't actually drive. They just happen to be parked on a hill. he just releases the break yeah and you know you brought up the helmet yeah

why do you think he had to because stuntman had to yeah they could have put a wig on top of it but I think I bet they did I bet they looked at that they probably

and they were like nope he's putting a helmet on it it looks too ridiculous yeah but I guess that's a testament too it's a real thing they really had it it was a real piece of technology and they really did

get it. I'm surprised in James Bond they haven't used one of those stupid water jet packs that Leotacaprio goes to work on. Yeah. He goes to work on it. I imagine. He goes to work on. Aren't they always tethered to something? Yes, they have to be. Whenever he's in Ibiza, I'm sure he's riding. Yeah. But they always has to have a hose in the water. The hose in the water. Yeah. Powering it. Or is he kidding. Yeah. All right. So number nine, you went. You, you said Thund... Living the... No.

No. I said number... Because I haven't done number nine yet. Ten? What did you just say? I said nine for Thunderball. Oh, we both Thunderballed.

And you Thunderball? No, yes. We both Thunderball is why we're talking about Thunderball. So you're nine to you. Number nine is another discussion round. Again, we're going to talk about... This is now three, four, Moonraker.

Hmm. Just like the Moonraker goes. What the... hell does that mean? Okay, so this is your classic James Bond. I'm going to steal a vehicle.

Right. We're stealing a space shuttle. Yeah, Bond isn't going to steal it. No, we, the franchise. As an audience, are going to witness this vehicle gets sold. So the third time, basically. Yeah, we had the Gemini capsule gets taken and you only live twice.

the submarine gets taken in The Spy Who Love Me. The Space Shuttle gets taken. Not two movies later. And all in the basically being enveloped by a larger... Yeah. ...so movie later. Oh, yes. That's why it makes it so egregious.

I mean, that's ridiculous. They just went, let's do Spy Who Love Me, but put it in space because of Star Wars. So it's really like two sins. Yeah. And now, don't get me wrong. I love it. What do you do? think, like, what do you think is the, what part of this cold open do you find the most egregious?

Well, I like that it has two distinct things. Like, the space shuttle flying off the back of the jet plane is awesome. Well, hang on. It's almost like, oh, no, that's a scene. But then the skydiving stunts are incredible, but the tone is a little too campy for me. It's crazy. Yeah. He flaps his fucking arms. But this is also. So they're like, you know, when you're sitting in that theater for the first time and you see Jaws come into frame, you're like thrilled. Everybody's thrilled. They're eating it up. This was a huge hit. It has not gone down historically as one of the Better Bond films, but it was really big at the time.

I love it. It's fun to watch, but it's really too campy. And the way it ends with that graphic of Jaws landing on the net that looks so bad. I don't know. It just kind of really fizzles out. But, James? you know, I don't have a real strong recollection of this one. You better search your soul.

Yeah. So where did I, I'm just going to remind myself where I put this on the list. Moonraker I had is 20. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's right. You had it quite low. Yeah. So we should be mentioning that when we get to these sometimes where we have low ones.

Not to tell you your business. But I am starting my own James podcast. That just gets shit done. It's actually affecting it. Not to tell you your business. So why so low for you exactly? Because I really don't remember it. But maybe because what you said,

it's derivative in terms of it's a larger vehicle enveloping a small vehicle. It seems a little opportunistic with the Star Wars piggybacking onto Star Wars, much like the shuttle piggybacks on the 747. Nice. But are you remembering the skydiving sequence?

No, I don't. Oh, so that's the real gem. So, yeah, that's why I'm wrong. I think, yeah, I think that is when you're wrong. And can be faulted. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember that.

It's probably great. What happens is Bond is pushed out out of an, no, he jumps out of an airplane after someone with a parachute. He has no parachute, gets their parachute. That's good. And then Jaws comes down with his parachute and they fight in the air. Right. All while free falling. Yeah.

Yeah. They're fighting over one parachute. Yes. Yes. But, you know, it is a little bit ruined by the skydiving double wearing goggles. Yeah. The guy playing Jaws isn't particularly large. It's hard to body double Richard Kiel.

I understand. That's right. But it's not that hard to get a smaller man. You know what I mean? So you can do it with like three-quarter size. Do you know what I mean? Like get a jockey. What if you got a 14-year-old who was really good at skydiving?

Yeah, they're not. It's going to exist, right? Yeah. My nephew, Ryan. Ryan, if you're out there, I'd like to remake this opening scene. Okay. You know, why not redouble people? Do you know what I mean?

Like, why not go back, George Lucas style? Oh. And instead of doing new CG, you get better doubles. Better doubles. Yeah. And reshoot the whole thing? No, no. Just reshoot the shots that are doubled.

I see. Intercutting with the shots of the real actors. Seems like a long way to go. Well, pretty soon. We're all going to be doing it. I'm playing Powerball every week. Okay. I've got a plan.

One it hits. All right. Is it to me number eight? Yes, but we should mention there are still three films. We're in a mush here. Not even mentioned. Three films. Gold fingers.

I think I'm about to mention one that has not been mentioned. Okay. All right. So hold on. Okay. All right. Number eight. Number eight for me is Goldfinger.

Yes, okay. That's gold fingers on the board. Okay. number eight for me from russia with love that's time to talk f russia w love from russia with love look okay it's great it's just uh first time we've seen it up it's what it is what it is yeah it's the first time we've seen it and you know i'm gonna put myself back i'm I'm going to take a step back to 1963. You know what?

I'm going to go to the theater. Excited for this new James Bond movie. I'm going to see Sean Connery. Clearly, Sean Connery. Although they are doing something to his face, makeup-wise, to make you go, what's going on there? What's going on there? It seems a little weird.

He's got a face toupee. Yeah. Oh, face star. He's got a little Hannibal Lecturing going on. And then I see fucking the greatest actor of our time, Robert Scha. the late great Robert Shaw. Yeah. I mean, if you watch that guy's career, it's insane.

Yeah, it is insane. But, you know, you see a very formidable looking man chasing Bond in the dark. It's crazy that he's Red Grant and Quint. I know. Then he's in the sting. Yeah, he's unbelievable. And one of my favorites, Forest Ten from Navarone. Yeah.

Oh, God. Man for all seasons? Is that him? Yeah? I think so. I don't know. He's amazing. He's one of those guys

that you just never think of him as acting. You just go like that to him, even though he plays different roles. You know, while they're making Jaws, he was living on a boat and would not go back to England because he owed them so much in Texas. Was it coincidence he was living on a boat

or was he some kind of method of incident? Coincidence. Thank you so much for enjoying James Bonding that at the end of the post. It's a quick. This has to be one of the shortest. Yeah, I like it. I think it's like, what I like about it, why it's so high for me,

not only is it in one of my favorite James Bond movies of all time. I love from Rushwood Love. Yeah. It's, uh, it's, it's a cold open. It's a very like quick injection of, of curiosity. You're like, who is this person that's killing this James Bond look alike? Right. It's a twist, yeah, you get a twist. Yeah.

It's good. It's got a bad cutaway to a mask that is then peeled off. But I think overall, it's... Yeah, I think it's really good, really solid. It's outdone, certainly, by later films, but you can't fault that for it. Yeah. For me. I have it at 14.

Where do you have it, James? Remind me which one we're talking about? For Marsha with Lowe. Where did I mention? Oh, I had that at 13. Yeah. All right. We're similar.

So not so far off from each. other. Okay. All right. And what's next? For me, number eight, you said, wait, what was your number eight? Goldfinger. Okay.

From Russia with love. For me, Quantum of Salas. Okay. Yeah. Is it two for quantum? That's two for quantum of solace. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. All right. So that's a no. No discussion. No discussion needed. No discussion on that one. Seven for me is, I don't know where we are with this. Number seven.

Number seven. Oh, that's got to be talking about it, right? It's a talk about. We've got to talk about it. Yeah. Okay. You've already mentioned that you didn't like the sped-up fighting. This one has so much of that over-cranking of the camera.

I guess it's under-cranking. Probably under-cranking. Yeah. That it just is ridiculous to me. It's a lot of that in combination with all the stuff pretty much being shot day for night. Yeah. It just, in some way it's interesting to watch as a weird experiment of like artificial. I kind of, yeah.

See, I think I fall on that side of it in that I like the look of it. it. I could see that. And I don't, I don't even mind the under cranking as much as it bothers you, but the look of it on the beach with that day for night look, I really like. And there's something very different about it to me. Yeah. With the boat stuff. And it's intriguing to me that he's following her out there and watching her and then runs. I don't quite get it. And then I really like this one. That's why it's very high. This one I underrated. I think this and actually tomorrow never Dias May. Maybe I underrated both of them when I think about it.

Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like this one is I don't know. It's just... Where did you have this math? Twenty-one. I had it. 16. It fails for me only in that it's... This never happened to the other film.

That really, really knocks it down for me too. Like, it kicks it in the balls. Really? Yeah. You don't mind it. I don't mind it because I feel like they're addressing the elephant in the room. It's a new guy. It's the first time they've had a different bond. But there's no logical reason for James Bond to be saying

this out loud. What is it? Okay, that's your second logic. Nope. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll mark it down. Absolutely. For the record, I have used no logic. No logic. In this entire podcast. Should be proud of that. No, it's, you're right. There is no reason.

They could have addressed it had they done it with another character in the movie, saying it about saying it, just saying those words out loud that could have been vague. It could have been about anybody, but we would know it was addressing the thing. He does say the other guy.

He doesn't say Sean Connery. I know. Is this the only time Bond has broken the fourth wall? We've probably discussed this. Good God, I hope. I would think that that's... And spoken to the camera. Maybe he takes a sly kind of look to the cameras up?

I don't even think there's that. I don't think he's done that. He's looked to cameras, but it's been cameras that are within the world of... Yes. Like surveillance cameras. Yeah. I disagree in that I think that is kind of a good way to handle

or have a new guy and he's referencing the fact that he's a new guy. I would say yes for a Roger Moore film, but it feels out of place in this film. He doesn't really repeat that same kind of cheekiness, if you will. I think that it is for me the addressing, the addressing of the fact that this is not Sean Connery is, I just don't like it straight down the barrel of the fucking camera. Yeah, I don't either.

I like the line. If he delivered the line to somebody, you know? As opposed to you? As opposed to me at home watching it, that's where I just sort of go, oh, come on. Yeah. So that's why it's ranked so low. That's why I had it at number 21. The fights are good.

They're brutal. Yeah. That under cranking again, it's just, I don't know. He looks good. He does look good. You know, he's a good bond. I would have liked to have seen him anymore. at the end of the day.

I'm happy with how things ended. And I'll also say, you know, we were talking about the Aston Martins. Yeah. This is my favorite. Great Ashton Martin. Oh, that's so good. The DBS, which is awesome.

I saw, it's between this and the advantage in the, I saw a baby blue, DB 11 the other day. Mm. In the, in the Sony parking lot. Oh. And I just was like, what the who's driving?

Baby blue? Baby blue. It looked. Is the DB 11, the casino around? It's the one. Well, they only made so much. many of the DB 10. Uh-huh.

They made like 10 of them. Oh, really? Yeah. They made like the one for the movie and then like nine others. To roll. Yeah. Now they go to 11. And then they did the DB 11.

So is that the quantum of solace one? It's one more. No, it's the one after. It looks like, it looks like the Spector one. It looks like the Spector one. Jesus. Oh, oh, yeah.

I don't like those ones. Yeah. Yeah. But in Baby Blue, it was like, I don't know how to feel weird about this. Well, I don't know how to feel about this. Our newborn needed a car and it was a car. a boy. Yeah, he felt that it wasn't masculine enough to have a...

If you're out there, Mr. Sony. Yeah. Who are you? David Sony. David Sony. The head of Sony, one of the heads of Sony, the studios, is... David Sony. You know, they're CCed on all over scripts and stuff for the Goldbergs, and I always see

it, and it's Chris Parnell is his name, and I just think... It's not the Chris Parnell. I just think it's very funny that we're sending our scripts and not actually Chris Parnell. Are you on the Sony? lot then? Yeah. Okay. You are too?

Do you ever swing over? Oh, I worked over there a lot. Yeah. It's a great. You are doing music, right? You do music and so you work over, like, off the Streisand stage? Next to the Streisand stage. Yeah.

I smoke over there a lot. Okay. Yeah. Next time you're there. That's great. You guys have a great time. We will. We'll do it without you.

It's going to be great. It's going to be very convenient when I need to start recording podcast during the day at lunch and we can just pull a guest over. Okay. Well, I'll just be over. at Sunset Gower Studios in a corner trying to get in. I'll telegram.

Let me see if I can do a mat. Telegram. Telegram. Yeah, that'll pass. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Where did we just leave off? We left off at Honor Majesty's Secret Service.

Who said that? Not me. I guess I did. You did. Wait, what? No, I have it at 16. Oh, I have it at 7. There you go.

What's it? It was you. We were having so much fun. Have fun in the Sony lot. A couple of reach around. Uh, scoffal. For number seven? Yeah.

That's two for skyfall. Where do I have skyfall? Did I say skyfall? Yeah, you already did, I think. Or no, I did. I had it at 13. Okay, okay. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Number seven for me, which is the second mark for this, that's gold finger. Is that a discussion? No, two. Just a two. So the only one's not on the board now are Spy Who Loved Me in Casino Real, which means we're all given those. There do.

Guys, I just want you to know I'm going to the point of no return mentally real quick So there do It's going to get weird pretty same Okay, okay We're on to number six Coming in at number six It's the spy who loved me

I don't care if you do the whole rest of the podcast like this Oh I'm in Spy Who Love Me is on the board Yes it is And frankly Surprised it came in this soon Number six. I don't even remember.

For me, we haven't, we can't talk about it yet. Number six for me is quantum of solace. No, and that's three. That's three for Quantum of Solace. We can talk. We're talking quantum. Let's talk about it. Okay.

Now, James, you had it. I ranked this pretty low. Matt and I had it pretty close. You had it at six. I have it at eight. In fairness, I haven't seen this for a long time. But here's what I, here's, here's the negative. It's going to knock your dick off next time you watch it.

Yeah, probably. here's what my memory tells me is that A, it's picking up directly where we left off So you lose a little bit if you If you don't remember exactly where we left off Sure. Okay, sure. Although, but you've come in with other Bond movies With a mystery you don't know.

With a mystery, but this is literally picking up the next moment. Yeah. It does not reward an unloyal viewer. That's correct. Okay. But it doesn't punish him for that. No, that's true. I mean, it might as well be some unconnected scene, I guess, right?

Then the second thing is, just the way it's shot, to me, it was very, like, super extreme close-ups to where I feel like the action gets scattered. I can't follow what's going on. It's a little hard to tell it sometimes. And then I just start to feel like it's just action for action's sake, and I'm not invested. I find it to be a connecting thrill ride with high octane rewards. Okay.

I couldn't argue that. I couldn't argue that any better. I think that it is the best heart chase we've seen in a James Bond film. Agreed. I think it is one of the best fight sequences we've seen in a James Bond film in the fact that, I mean, it's a chase,

but it's a fight. Like, I mean, it's brutal. I think once you figure out the layout and geography of that sequence where that bar is jutted out of the semi and grabs his door, once you understand that, it comes together. But it is a fault of the sequence that even the first time I watched it, I went,

oh, I guess that happened. I had to put it together retroactively. Oh, okay. Right. But I did that, like, a minute or like a couple seconds after it happened, went, oh, I see, that's what happened with that truck. It had this bar sticking out. Yeah.

They don't do a good job of showing you exactly what it means. I mean, it's frenetic. That's very frenetic. It's very frenetic. I think it's like, it's just such a good chase. But that helicopter opening shot coming in over the water with that violin music, do-nan-n-nan-n-nan-nan-nan-na-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-hh But there's just film grain.

Yeah. Yeah, it's just, for some reason, what it, probably because whatever camera they're using on the helicopter couldn't be some fancy camera or something, but I just love the way it looks. Oh, and then the sound design in this thing? Get out of town. Get out of a car and drive through a tunnel and get hit by somebody with a bar sticking out. I love that it's like Audi's versus Aston Martin's. Yeah, the cars look beautiful.

The sounds of the machine guns, just meaty thuds with high-pitched shell casings. I mean, the sound mix in this is almost as good as the sound mix in heat. Yeah, that's true. I will say this opening sequence gets me watching this movie more than probably the movie itself necessarily would, but I do like watching this movie. Yeah. James, have you come around? Yeah, you guys are making great points No, you're probably right

I have seen this movie Maybe one and a half times Oh, wow Yeah, so that's... You're due. I'm due for a second Probably, you're due for a full two and a half times Yeah, I'm gonna owe each of you long essays

Yeah, I can't wait We'll post it right after my schedule a flight Think piece, do a think piece if you wouldn't mind In defense of Pierce Rosen Yeah, there'll be a stern letter Matt, you're already looking at your list And you're making me nervous because I'm not done gushing No, you can...

Absolutely, gosh, I just wanted to make sure I had... I thought I had missed something, but I did not miss something. Okay. The way he dispatches that other car with a one-handed machine gun twirl around, that also doesn't seem crazy. It doesn't seem... Like, that's something from a Rambo movie. Or, like, The Rock would do in a real furious car movie.

It somehow still seems, like, believable. And then the way that car goes over the cliff is neither... spectacular, but is somehow still thrilling and it doesn't blow up. Right. It's just beefy, to the point, nutritious, but somehow tasty. It's like the most delicious, nutritious fast food I've ever had. Fast food. I'm Matt Corley.

It's such an exciting... I mean, I just remember being so blown away by the chase watching it in the theater. And also, you know, let's not remember. They lost a stuntman doing this movie and doing that chase sequence. But no, no, it was like, it wasn't it, it wasn't during shooting. They just, when was it? I don't think. Wasn't it just like he was driving the car to and from set or something?

Oh, dear. Hold on, you guys. That's a sadder way to go. Yeah. Hold on. Let me look. Well, I mean, I was going to get a lot more points than it needed if this guy was just dying. Oh, you gave it points for him losing his life?

I mean, the man. you know, ultimate film sacrifice. That's true. You know, much like the Twilight Zone movie. Right. You know, anytime. Whatever his name is. Anytime someone passes.

Right. But does the shot need to be used for you to have that feeling? No, no. As long as you die. You know, that's why The Crow is the greatest movie ever made. It's not. It's making that up right now. Hold on.

Let me put the mic up. He played a villain chasing James Bond's Aston Martin, DB5, and an Alpha Romeo 159, a little. Oh, shit. I have a call with my agent and manager right now. I'll take it. Right now. Yeah.

We're so close to the end. Tell him I'm not here. Should we pause recording? Yeah. Okay. Oh, that's right. And we're back. Okay.

That was us having to take a break because Matt had to take a call and rather than go through the whole look up the stuntman dying thing. He did die doing a stunt. And so we just came out. in with, oh yeah, you're right. Yeah. Okay, that's quantum of solace. That is still trying to wrap it up a little before it's time, huh?

Quas. Would you like to talk more about it? No, I just want to watch it. I mean, it's so great. I think I need to see it again. God, if I had my turn to pick all over, I'd choose that movie right now, I think. You know, we never got, as children of the 80s, you know, mix tapes were great. You'd make your own mixtapes constantly.

We just never got mixed videos. videos. Like, I'd like a super cut of all the bond cold opens and just sit down and watch it. I bet there's probably a YouTube playlist of that. I was going to say, isn't YouTube kind of the mixed videos? It wouldn't be that tough. It's a logic strike, James. It's a logic strike right there.

That's two. Matt has yet to use any of his up. I am logic free. Have no fear. Have no fear. All right. My number six is the living daylight. That's two for the living daylight

It must have scared the living day. You're gonna have to hold your breath on that one. They ain't coming up yet. Wow. Oh, nice. All right. We're on to number five. Number five.

Still Casino Real, the only one without a mention here on Branking the Bond pre-titles Seasoned Pistol Shrimps Radio. For number five, I have Skyfall. That's three for Scafall. Skiffall. Hmm. All right, let's talk about it.

Let's talk about it. I have it. You have it pretty low. Top of my bottom half. Top, top bottom. I can't remember now which one this was. Motorcycle chase across buildings followed by a train. Thank you.

Okay. Got it. I don't know. This one has what I have now established is my favorite thing about cold openings. What's that? People monitoring. Oh, yeah. You're right.

It is another people monitoring. I do think that weakens it a bit. It's got good tension. I don't, you know, we've talked about how I don't like the face replacement on the motorcycles. I don't like that there just happens to be a chain lying around right where they're fighting on the top of the train. Is that a logic hit? Yeah. Come on.

The chain thing? Yeah. You're getting it. It's not logical. Boom. Oh, yeah, I guess so. It doesn't have to be logical. I do like the way it ends.

I love the setup of Money Penny. I love the introduction of Money Penny. I love the, I love the motorcycle chase across the Brazil. I don't. I love the clear shots of his Omega Planet Ocean that you see on my wrist right now. I love the suit he's in. This Tom Ford suit is out of sight. I think he is, you can tell he's very upset about getting shot.

He doesn't want the shot. I love that. What is that, a backhoe? I love that whole thing. It's amazing. I think he should have come. right out of that thing after Ronson dies in that little wherever there or that flat and have the shootout in the bizarre but skip the motorcycle thing and go straight to the trains.

It's a little bit too much for me. Yeah. I think because also the motorcycle sequence is very cursory. It doesn't move the plot along. Nothing significant happens in it. I like, it's a cold open. I know, but it does. It's something, but it just, it just, come on.

I like this. It's just there for a gratuitous stunt. And I know that there are those in other ones, but they move you from point A to point B. This just gets you to the train. But with bad CG replacement, face replacement. I like your owner. That's like your wigdar.

That's your modern day wigdar. I do have a thing where like artificial, visual things do stick out to me. So were you just so disturbed by the rogue one, Grand Moth talking? Well, yeah. It was tough. Yeah. I mean, eventually that one I kind of came along on,

but by the time Leia came around, And I was like, what? Yeah. What am I playing? That's a different even thing. That's a complete, that's a complete body replacement. Yeah. Or, you know.

I really like this because of the, I mean, part of it is how it plays into the opening, into the song. Yeah. That is great. Yeah. And how the, I mean, you do sort of have to, like, think about the opening credits of these when you're talking about a cold open. Oh, wow. I mean, that's going to be a entirely separate ranking on its own.

But I do... It's the... It's much like you only live twice, which we have not talked about yet. You see James Bond die, essentially. Or you think. Right. You know what I mean? Right.

And you're like, boy, I've got to wait through this song to figure out how they get around this. Because I've seen the trailer and he's certainly in it more. Well, they have a lot of cut scenes from this movie. But yeah, I like the actor. I like the Land Rover, the defender chasing through the city. I like that Moneypenny's not a great driver. And I like that she's also not a great shot. Not a great chef.

Shot, shot. You can tell that from this? How can you tell? The way it ends is great. I love it. That's what. put it up there in my list. The whole thing with M and take the shot.

And the way he falls from the bridge looks amazing. Yeah, and Al say in this case, I think the monitoring doesn't detract from it. I think it adds to it in that it's, she's specifically telling to do something which he refuses to do. And I think it adds to the tension as opposed to he was by himself,

deciding not to do it. We wouldn't feel that. Do you find the, the cuff straightening? when he jumps into the train. I think they pull that off brilliantly. I mean, it is... Okay, I'm going to just disagree slightly.

I think they pull it off okay, but I feel like that's another CG shot with the stuff happening around him. It's not that they replace his face. Yeah. But again, it's a land on the couch type moment to me. You know, it's another like, things don't go bad for him. It's like...

I did somehow in that moment because of his acting believe... Yeah. believe that character. But then when you also think about it, he's already been shot. He's not a cuff-streatening. To me, he's not a cuff-streatening guy at all anyway. That's interesting.

I find him to be, but not in a bras and preening way. Just more of almost like in a get-comfortable sort of way. What do you think of the Volkswagen Beatles? Just that they're in there for like marketing. Yeah. Those take me out of it a bit, especially it's because she mentions them. Yeah. Oh.

Yeah. I love the brute force with which he tears off the back of that train with the back of backhoe. That's great. But it's almost like he doesn't mean to tear it off. He just means to latch on so he can get across, and it just pulls itself apart. Yeah. Hmm.

Yeah, this one's probably better than I have it. Boy, yeah, I feel like we're reminding you a lot of things. I'm just open to opinions and rationale and well, frankly, logic. Do you feel... Oh, I got a point for that? No, you didn't. I didn't write it. You only have one point.

You only have one logic point right now. And it seems like it's the face thing that pulls you out definitely. Yeah. Which I agree, and I kind of, that's the one thing that I miss about the earlier bonds is like, you know, they did practical stunts. And I am a big proponent of practical stunts. If you can't really do it. I mean, obviously, they did a lot of fake stunts too. There's a lot of just blue screen that they did.

Now that I'm thinking of it. It is a practical stunt because there's stuntmen doing it. It's just shooting it as such where they need to do face replacement. I think it was a mistake. In the old days, they would have just pulled back and just left it the other guy. Well, it's like that shot in Termin. too when the motorcycle is jumping into the LA River. Which he just replaced.

He replaced the glass. No, but he did face replacement for the new edition. I got to see that. Man, that was always my... But I bet that will probably also be seamless, too, because it's Cameron. There's something about this one that's blurry and fuzzy, and it just doesn't look right. I don't know. Also, I think the thing that bugs me, too, is that on these Turkish bizarre tile, like,

Tuscan tile roofs, they just happen to have these flat peaks. that you can ride a motorcycle across. It just all seems very... Don't you think a location scout would notice that? And go, that's where we're going. Yeah, but it just seems too convenient to me. Oh, shit, I knew it when I said it. Yeah.

We were tied for logic. We're all a three-way tie for logic. Once you get your third strike, you're allowed to leave. Oh, geez. Wow. What a reward. Okay. Number five.

Oh, that was you, right? I said Skyfall for number. for number five, is that right? I said skyfall for five, yeah. Yeah, all right. No, I said it. You did? No.

Who said Skyfall? I see, I have Skyfall of five. What's your five, Matt? Hang on, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Golden Eye. That's two for GoldenE. And you'll know I haven't voted yet.

That's amazing. Don't look at my paper. I think it's next. I think it's Matt's five, too. I don't know. Number five, for me, Octopacy. That's two for Octopus. That's not three for octopuses? This is out of control. This is out of control. You had a very low on your list.

At 13, right in the middle. Right in the middle. 13? That's right. Okay, I take that back. All right, we're in the, well, we're now in the top five, so. This is unbelievable. This is an exciting time for everybody here.

Although we have one, two, four, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine still not talked about. Will everyone be a talk about at this point? No. No. Not necessarily. Not necessarily. Yeah. I don't understand the math of this.

I don't think because we have more than five truths. We have 15 choices. We could conceivably say 15 things. Gotcha. Oh, I see. Okay. So it's on to number four. On to four.

James. Octopussy. That's that's the octopus. We're going to talk to octopusy. This is the last great, unrelated. Cold open. And I love it. It's campy.

It's fun. It's got all the best of both worlds, practical stunts. What's your favorite thing about this cold open? Because I'll answer that question as soon as you do. The flip-around hat. Yes, you're 100% correct. How it can go from just loose to stiff. And no problem.

by turning it inside out. The flip around hat, uniform. It's really a triple threat. It's the jacket, the mustache, and the hat that just really makes me go, Roger, you're the best. The horse, the fake horse ass. It's got to, you know, come into the gas station at the end. Yeah, it's really, I fill her up. I love it.

You had it low? Who had it low? I had it fairly low. I had it at 13. I had it the lowest, I think, of the three of us, right? Yeah, I got it at five. Right.

Yeah. But I had it right in the middle. I just really, I love, here's one thing that takes me out of it. If I could be so bold. Yeah. The stick that the jet is attached to as it's driving through the,

as it's being driven through the hangar. Did you notice that the first time? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You did. The first time? Oh, I didn't. I did not notice that.

You mean not the stick in the jet, but the one that's holding up the jet. Yeah, the one that's propping it up. That is basically driving. It is driving, yeah. It's literally really on the back of a truck or something, right? Yeah. Yeah. And they're doing their best to practically hide it.

Yeah. You know, and they weren't going to CG out any wires at that point in time. So they did a great job for the time. Yeah. And that miniature of the air house when it blows up. Oh. Or also coming out of the hangar, it's that force perspective. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The force perspective is great. That's so good. Ah, man.

That, I love a cold open that you can just watch by itself, and nothing before or after matters. I love a Cuban dictator. How many of them are there? While you guys talk, I'm going to go through there. And it's not a generic scene. It really seems like it could be a piece of some other, it could be the culmination of another mission. It doesn't just seem like, let's go skiing and have him shot at. Right.

It really does seem like it's got these details. And I like the, I like the fact that the, my mail is coming. That's what you hear. Also, you hear the attest to see if my dog is here, which he is not. Otherwise, my dog would be eating the mail. Okay. Tax the mail slot constantly. I love the fact that you see a nameless, I like a nameless girl helping him in the beginning.

I like the fact that the jet is brought in a horse car that has a fake ass in it. Like, it's just like, it's so ridiculous and so great at the same time. The mustache, the thing that's going to make him some sort of Spanish-speaking general is a mustache. It's like, this is like, right? This is surprising to me. Go ahead. There are, according to my calculations, there are really only five cold opens that are separate from the movie plot-wise. There are a couple that are kind of separate, like four-year-eyes-only is separate from the movie, but it's still a Blofeld connection.

No, I'd call that separate. Okay. but also living daylight feels like its own thing but then it's still that that assassin there factors in later in the movie so we won't count that spy who loved me feels like its own mission but that's tied in as well so they are if i'm not mistaken tomorrow never dies right no that's tied in it is that is tight in right so we've only got thunderball for your eyes only moon raker even though jaws carries through that but plot wise i don't think it's connected the space shuttle Right, but I guess I'm just thinking of that skydiving, but you're right, yeah. So it's just Thunderball. It's Goldfinger, Thunderball. For your eyes and only Goldfinger and Octopsy. Yeah.

So what we're always craving for is actually quite the exception to the rule. In Octopussy, is he mimicking, is he trying to look like another guy? Like, did he steal somebody's ID badge and he looks like him now with the mustache? Or is he making up a guy? I think he's right. No, because the guy shows up and they see him, and it's like, oh. They do look a lot of like. Okay, right.

And it was just with... And one guy does have a mustache. The power of a pencil thin mustache. I can't believe there are only four unrelated cold opens. And then I still think for your eyes only is barely passable for that. And I love that. I love that little plane, by the way, of a little beaky... Yeah, a little tiny jet that recently sold at auction.

Anyway, hashtag Octopusy Strong. That's right. And also hashtag, rank the Bond pre-title rankings because how, what time are? We're at 1.45. Jesus. So we're not in our, we're not in our, we're not super long in the tooth yet because of the fact that we've done a three plus hour podcast.

That's right. Which one was that? Octoply. Oh, I was there. That's, see, it's normal to me because that's the only one I was until now. This is interesting. Interesting. I'm long-winded.

Okay. All right. Okay. Number four. Four for Matt, Myra. Yeah. Yes. Number four, three, hang on, hang on, hang on, where'd you go, where'd you go, where'd you go?

Wait, where is it? We're having a problem here. Ah, Dr. No. That's three for Dr. No. That's very high on the list for you. I like this one. You know, it's hard, it's hard for me because I was not even, I kind of fought even throwing it in. Because of the fact that it actually isn't a cold open.

It's not a pre-title secret. We're retconning it as a cold open. which I find to be a little distasteful on our part. But it's getting such a high ranking because it's fucking the first James Bond movie. It's also good. I like it. I mean, there's a twist. Three blind mice.

Right. Looks good. Yeah. The Strangway death is great. Especially after he tips them. Or not tips. Yeah. And then the.

There are people monitoring, Strangway. Yeah, that's true. So, it's one of my favorite bits of monitoring. But yeah, it gets such a high ranking for me because it's the first one. Yeah, right. Right. It's defining the genre. Yeah, right there.

So that's your doctor no for me. Okay. My number four, three unconnected killings that are actually connected. It's time to talk, golden eye. Bump bum bum bum bong Okay This is the bungee jump Yeah okay

But so much more No I'm just using that as a A little shortcut And you may say to yourself Self's Why is Matt Gourley putting a Brosnan one up so high? That's a great question I've always said this opening

It's spectacular Yeah It's truly spectacular In the sense that It's one of the more Defifying stunts see a man do? The dive after the plane?

The dive and... Well, we've also seen it in Moonraker. He dives after a parachute, so it's not the first time Bond has done it. Well, let's talk about the bungee dive then. Well, that's... We're talking dives. Kids are doing that on spring break. But to go to dive, to jump down, right?

Mm-hmm. To then pull a gun, a grappling gun without having been bounced back up in the air yet. I mean... Yeah. I'm not even going to sit because I will get a logic point. No, you don't want your third. But imagine what would be easier than that? Parachute?

Well, that or just... A long ladder? Just repelling down. Damn. But that's a lot slower. It is a lot slower. Let's say there's a spotlight sweeping across every... It's not that free repel, you know, that whiz-z-like the Navy SEALs do out of helicopters.

Yeah? But that's a... How high would you say that dam is? 20 feet. Okay. I mean, that's... Forst perspective. Yeah.

No, I love this. It's great. I mean, it's great. You've got another double O in it. You've got another double O dying or seemingly dying. You've got the, what you think is the big set piece of it all is the, you think is the dam. And then all of a sudden he's on a cliff runway chasing a plane that has just gone over. This is also a testament to Martin Campbell again, because it's not just the stunts.

It's the way the stunts are shot. When he rides that motorcycle off the cliff, the camera's kind of pulling back to, and it just, just like the motion of the, like, yeah, like the motorcycle falling at a different arc than the human. You know, it just looks amazing. Plus, I think is the plane in the shot at the same time? It's all done in a wide at the same time. It's incredible. Yeah.

Similar idea to diving after a parachute, and the plane is your parachute, basically. But it's nice. I mean, it's a good variation, I think. It's got some good miniature work when the place blows up. Some great miniature work. Yeah. It's got one of the great intros to a bond, which is him in a toilet. Fitting, one of the most fitting.

Look at things to come. Giving the franchise a swirly. He comes in upside down on a toilet. I love it. I love it. Yeah, I didn't. The only thing I didn't understand is, so this is the one where he goes, it's like the Russian underground bond.

bunker basically? Is that, am I right about that? I feel like it's built into the dam. And he's, he's, he's kind of moving that thing in front of him so that if they shoot it, the whole place will go up. Yeah. Yeah. So the part I didn't understand is he, at the last minute, does something, dives into, like, a shoot of some kind?

Conveyor belt. Yeah. And it's firing as he's moving backwards. Yeah. And he's, is he firing as something that's going to launch those things out, so he can style? What he, we've discussed this, but he's, what he's firing at is the least practical way to store those containers, which is a dangerous gas containers. Dangerous gas containers are stored and only being held in by a gate with one latch and gravity.

And springs behind them. Yeah. It's insane. Okay. How they're loaded in there, I don't know. Spring loaded. Yeah. Yeah. It's like when you go to a 7-Eleven and you pull a bottle of water off the shelf and the next bottle of water comes forward.

Like too hard. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's not. I think you also, I didn't say anything about that, but you might want to chalk someone up

a logic point. Maybe both of you. It was more of a question. Right, but Matt answered it, so Matt. All right, all right. I'll take it. We're almost to the top of the list. It's fine.

I mean, you only get three logic strikes. That's it. You can't talk about logic anymore. Done. All right, me. Done. There's one of these cold opens that I can't believe has not come up yet.

It's good, but... It's not that good. Well, that means only one person hasn't brought up. I think there's going to be some disagreement coming up because my couple, the next one's you're not going to like. Well, let's just before we decide. We've got both Dalton films we have not yet discussed.

We have... Well, that's just because you guys are crazy. Yeah. Two Conneries. Yeah? One Roger Moore and one Daniel Craig left. But two Dalton's, pound for pound. That means his cold openings are ranking really high.

I've really tipped the scales. I'm out of Moors. It's not me. I've got one more. Mm. Is there a joke tally? Because that one was the mother load. Right, but you're not getting

coincidence is the winner so far. I'm going to actually write it down. Coincidence. So you've already said spy who love me, man? I thought James said that. I said Spy Who Love Me? Sorry, I have one more. I have one more.

Where are we? Who went last? I did. I goldenied, right? I goldenied, right? I goldenied. We both did. Do we both goldenized?

my number four. What's he for yours? Oh, Dr. No's number four. Okay, so I, Golden Nied number four. All right. Okay. Okay. We're on to number three here, but we still have one, two, three, four, five, six films left to discuss. Okay. So each one of these is going to be a discuss. Seems like it. Seems like it. Okay. All right. For three, I know I'm really tipped the scales here, but I have license to kill. You're insane, but it is insane, but acceptable. Yeah, let's hear this. I'm all years. Now, I like the sequence, but I'm wondering why it's up there. Here's why I like. It's not that I think it's such a great

actiony sequence, but I like the fact that it's like a mini self-contained movie in that it... Do you know what I mean? This is the one, if I'm remembering it right. It's going to Felix Leiter's wedding. Correct? Yeah. Correct? Yeah. Okay. Then they get

diverted. They go off to handle Robert Dovey. Yeah. Well, they try to handle Robert Dovey. as you know, it's nearly impossible. The wedding's going on. Terry from Three's company is waiting at the altar. Yep.

The teacher from Red Dawn is their buddy. Right. Yes, exactly. And then they chase down Robert Dobby, who escapes in the little Cessna. Yeah. They go after it with the Coast Guard helicopter, which is a, to me, this is a great practical thing. Yes, definitely.

flying up behind the plane. I love just the shot where you can see both of them. I always get excited when you can see two planes flying close to each other like that. Yeah, that's true. He decides to go fishing, drops down the hook, hooks it on, and then the plane just stops flying, which it's like you don't even think about until you kind of don't know where this is going, and then you realize, right, it would stop flying, basically.

Although it seems like if you really hit the, this is not a logic point. Well, you have none left. I have none left, so I'm saying this is totally. totally logical. But the thing stops flying. And then they parachute out and land at the wedding. They just right over the way. I'm saying this is good.

Yeah. They just parachute right into the wedding, a la, maybe the in-laws. And they're there for the way. To me, it's like a nice, the reason I gave it such a high rating is because it's a nice, like, a little mini movie with, like, a nice payoff of the wedding. And you get the little joke at the end with the parachutes is the wedding train. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. I realize that this is probably just a thing of mine, but that's why it's there. I love it. I love it in the sense that it's good to see Felix and what I'm guessing is Quarles, friend. Coral's cousin? Yeah. Well, you have Coral, you have Coral Jr., and Coral the third. I mean, right?

Isn't that what they're telling us? I think so. I mean, come on. Is it? No. Did they call him by name? No, his name is Sharky. right?

You don't think he's squirrels, buddy? Well, from Crabkee. Oh, he may be. It's from Crab Cake. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's a lot of fun. And as far as the Dalton,

the Dalton's go, I have this license to kill I have ranked higher than your living daylight. That's crazy talk. I don't understand. Well, we'll talk about it. We'll get it.

We have to get to it. Right. So that was your number three, correct? That was three. Number three for me This is going long But just for the record I could do this all day

This is all I exist for I think we're all happy To sort of just think about these movies And number three for me Mostly because of the way it ends Is the spy who love me Okay It ends

With a British flag parachute With a Union Jack parachute, which, you know, if you can get a standing ovation from Prince Charles. Are we discussing this? Oh, my God. Well, we are, because my third pick is the spy who loved me. I thought because we had a Roger Moore left who I was the last dumbed-down. Well, we had it the same place.

Look at us. We should do a podcast together. This one is up here solely for that ending. It's one of the most incredible moments in a James Bond movie. But the rest of it is all the music does not. Well, I'll tell you what I like. I like. of it. Yeah, what am I talking about is James Bond in a cabin?

James Bonn in a cabin. Oh, my God. That's everything I need. That's your one dream right there. And that's what the ticker tape coming out for the sake of right? That's right. It is. Oh, God, it's good. And it's also like, I love the misdirect of like, oh, Barbara Bach is the... Yeah, that's a great little twist there when you don't see it coming. She's the agent. I mean, look, there is, even with license to kill it, you're getting no arguments at this point. Yeah. Yeah. We are in prime, cold open territory. And that's just an amazing stunt, as you see. say. Yeah.

And that's another shot that reminded me of you saying the camera pulling back. You really get a feel of like, and then they go to no sound basically, except maybe a little wind. Yeah. And it's just that. Especially when you know that they fucked that up. And they only had one camera on it and they intended to have like five. Oh.

And do cutaways. That that one, somehow there was a miscommunication in filming. The cameras weren't rolling or something. Yeah. As usual, I've got these facts about 50% right. So that's what we're here for. We're here to be lovers. We're here to be lovers.

not experts. But, I mean, it's the quintessential of the Roger Moors. It's not necessarily our favorite of the Roger Moors, as we discussed in our Roger Moore rankings. But it is our favorite opening of Roger Moore. I'll say it's the most formulaic of the Roger Moore movies, the most James, James Bond. The most John's Bond ranking formula. Hello, I'm Joms Bain. I'm Joms.

You don't know what he would tell like. I don't know. There's a gardener out there. The noise is wrong. Everything's gone to hell. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. We're going to be okay.

I'm surrounded by guitars. Left-handed guitars. All right. Okay. But to the point, I think this is, you know, of the formula that is established with Goldfinger, the spy who love me is Roger Moore's goldfinger. How do you feel about that statement? Yeah, that's fair.

Yeah. Definitely. And for that reason, maybe that's why, though I like both of the, those movies, I tend to like the other ones, a little more experimental ones, because the formula ones, by definition, you see a lot. Yeah. Right. The music in this does take it down for me. It's a bummer. This and For Your Eyes Only and Golden Eye. And it's not just because there's no John Barry. It's just because they went out of... They went into popular music. They went Bee Gees. Yeah. Yeah. It's really a... And now, do not get me wrong. I love the Bee Gees. Right. And that's not

Campa. I really love the Bee Gees. ever say otherwise about Matt. But I don't want James Bond in my Beegies, and I don't want Beegis in my James Bond. You know what I'm saying, guys? Here today with me now? But you're okay with Beach Boys and you're James Bond. Oh.

You're okay? That's not worked into the score, though. Isn't it not even the Beach Boys? It's a cover. Well, yeah, it's like... It's like an instrumental... Well, yeah, they did... They bought the rights to the publishing,

but not the recording. Oh, is it so much. So they also skimped on it. They were cheap. That's a lot cheaper. Do you think they went to the Beach Boys and they're like, sorry, man, I'm a John LaCarray guy. I don't go Bond. Yeah, they probably could have.

It could have been, because it's usually double the price if you want the master recording versus just the publishing. You're going to get a lot less. And then you just hire somebody to. Which is why it was crazy when Mad Men played tomorrow never dies. Because they paid for the master. Paid for the master. Madmen? What?

Yeah. Fucking. You mean you only live twice? I'm talking about Mad Men plays for Tamar Never Knows, God. Oh, Beach Boys. The Beatles song. Beetle's song. They use the master of Tamara Never Knows.

Right. Draper puts on Revolver and they play the fucking whole song. And I'm talking about this. Yeah, there's so many Tamar Nevers. But they did use, you only live twice in Mad Men as well. Do you remember? I don't. Is this another goarly's got half the facts right?

Hold on. This sounds like a gloft to me. This is a Gloft. Gourley's look out. Did you ask what that means? I'm curious what that means? You said it was that, we've got a few more hours. I'm going to look at this.

All right, he's looking at it. Gloft is a, as the observations of Matt Gourley can only do. It provides us with things you might miss, but Matt wants you to look out for. So it's a Gourley's lookout for this. That is now a gloft. It is a term that... That's a real time saver. It's a term he was shoehorning into our show, and it's,

Now I've been mentioned every week since. For instance, when the old lady fires on Bond and Goldfinger, she's the roadkeeper lady. Her nostrils shoot out cold air exhausts the same rate as the gun. Someone made a giff of it. I'm leaning down to my mic that I'm not holding there. That's his gloft. That was his first gloft. You only live twice is in Mad Men.

Great. Boy, that music budget. Yeah. They definitely have a large music. project. They sure did. Talk about the music and Madman.

I never watch Madman, and he writes. Matt, I'll tell you this. Two. Stern was just the Sternthology was just playing the Casey Kaysam. Is Don on the phone?

Good. Long distance. I guess I was up to have a number. Some fucking dog. dying. And I also want to know what happened in those pictures I was supposed to see. It's the last goddamn time. Okay.

Your case-case-in was brilliant. It's beautiful. Thank you, man. Very good. Thank you. And he writes. It's no Ian Fleming, but... Well, nothing is.

Hello? How are you? I'm just up here in the attic. That's a very good Carrie Grant. Have you heard James and I have dueling Carrie Grants where his is just, I mean, it's laughably bad. And mine is right on. We'll go, you go first.

Yeah. Hello, Matt. I'm Kerry Grant. Now, you do it wrong. I care, Grant. God. You got to get the thing and he said no a-s. He doesn't say any a-s.

Is this one like it? No, that's all right, but you go get this. He said no a-s. I can't grant. I can't grant. And if you don't look at him, it's like he's standing here in front of you.

Sir, you must... Get back to Forrest Lawn. See? I even look like him. I got dashing gray hair at my temples. Now, Carrie, I understand they wanted you to play James Bond.

Is that right? That's right, but I wouldn't do two-picture deal. You wouldn't do a two-picture deal. Why not? I don't know. I got one. Because they're in too much demand.

Oh, Audrey Hepburn call. That's right. She wanted you to do Chirvade. Part two. And now for some reason I would do. Here's why it's not racist. Shavey too. It's Carrie Grace.

Because it's Carrie Greer. Like, I don't know if you're some reason thinking that's an Asian stereotype. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's Carrie Grant. Right. And spot on. Ah, Kelly Grant. How did it go?

Because we would do this where I was having. That's a classic Bristol accent that you know. Transatlantic. Bristol by birth, transatlantic by, yeah, by growing up. Now you were born Archibald Leach. That's right. I changed. my name.

So you could be more marketable in Hollywood. And I live with what's his name Randolph Scott and we never do it. Have you sure you didn't change your name because you wouldn't be able to pronounce Archerbald Leach?

Let me try. Archiebalwit. Not racist. I don't even know what you mean. Thank you for stopping by, Carrie. Bye, bye. I hope Bristol people are not listening to this. No one is still listening to this.

This is our Octopussy Strong of 2017. That's right. All right. Where are we? We have discussed The Spy Who Loved Me. We have discussed many James Bond films, but we have yet to discuss three. If that's correct. Is that correct, man?

Three? Yes. Who just said The Spy Love Me? I did. You did? Yeah. It's Goreley's turn. Gordy's turn.

But he's a little busy. He's back on the phone? And it's understandable. I get it. I would be on the phone right now, too, because this podcast. podcast is so boring. I was texting great Kelly. No, he's back.

Oh, I never left. I should justify the fact that the way that really happened was I was trying to get James to teach me how to do Carrie Grant. And it just, like, my impressions exist in a narrow band. And if one, like, adheres too closely to the side, it flips over to another one. And for some reason, like, getting Carrie Gland. Because he does, like, kind of glide over his eyes.

So that's this type of a thing. Yeah, but it just sort of started skewing over a boy a bit this way. Now, I'm still Kerry Grant a little bit, but then I go to Kim Jong-un. Now, this is you actually trying to do it. Well, give me a word for him to say or a phrase? Let's see. What is that? Kilometer.

Colometer. Colomata. It's funny. James sent me a whole, he did a whole recording of Carrie Grant doing the commands for ways, which you can do. And I was going to do HR Geiger and Ian Fleming. We really need to sit down and ship his out. You can't do that?

You can record your own. But what I can't figure out is if, like, I was to send that out online, can people get it without getting my phone number? Yeah. It just shows that. Well, I sent you mine, right? So you just got a link that just when you sign into ways, it just downloads that voice. Nothing else.

It doesn't give out your blood type or anything. This is, I cannot fathom why we haven't done this. Yes. I know. It's so ripe with possibilities that Matt has not done one. It's crazy. I was ready for a gear to come back at me like an hour after I sent you mind. Oh my God. It's been a hell of a show. How much actual recording do you need to do for that? It is about 30 prompts. And they're generic. You know, it's like, turn right. Yeah. It's God. I can't wait. It's great. All right. Matt. Yes.

It's time for your third best cold open from the James Bond franchise. Wait, we did that. It's by who love me. You both had spy-o-lety. That's why. That's why. You guys are in sync. We are now in the top five, though. Okay. These next are the collective top five.

Okay. So it's to me? Yeah. Okay. So you're going to be mad not because, well, because this isn't my number one, but it is number two. I chose casino royal. First time on the board. Pretty much blasphemy, but.

Yeah, I know. Okay. Yeah. No, now, look, I mean, we'll talk about it, but I could see why there are reasons to not. put that number one or whatever, but we'll talk about it. Sure, I can't imagine what those would be. I know. Number two, Goldfinger.

That's three for Goldfinger. Okay. Goldfinger coming in at number five on the collective countdown. I, Casey Kese. All right. We have fun. We have a lot of fun. Where are we?

So much of this is probably getting cut out. No. Oh, you're going to cut it down? Cut anything. All right. send all your regrets to James Bladen Acca pussy

Strong What did we just I just did number two Which was gold finger Oh we haven't even talked about it We haven't even talked about it This is the first proper cold opening Unrelated

Little mini movie Yeah right It's great It's got everything Ridiculous thing It's got intrigue It's got action It's got explosions

It's got watches It's got a Rolex Submariner That is just out of this world It's got a guy swimming in there Who's this fella? What's your name? This is a Frank.

I'm a guy that loves Goldfink. Did you say, Fank? Fank guy? I'm Fank. I love Goldfick. And I don't have a speech impediment. It's literally spelled F-W-A-N-K. Fank.

Fank, yeah. Whenever I talk about Golfi guy, I just feel good. So he comes in there in the water. He's got a little bird on his head. The bird's dead. You know, it's not moving. He takes it off. He gets up.

Tuxedo. White tuxedo. White tuxedo is out of control. White tuxedo. Red cunt. nation. Yeah. He's really

dressed to the nines. That tuxedo is not even crumpled. Crippled? It's not. It's not. Cerempal or crumpled.

It's placed in there very neatly. Yeah. He has to specifically zip up the wetsuit a certain way. I'm so delirited. Oh, he just heads

over there. He sticks some sticky stuff on it. I know. There's a sticky C4 on there. Yeah. And he puts a timer on there and he walks into a bar

cash weight. Lights a cigarette. Lights a cigarette. And And boom. Yeah. That's your cold open. Then he goes home to his woman.

He destroys a... Wait, isn't the bathtub? Well, he destroys a lot of heroin. Is that later? He destroys a lot of heroin. Yeah. And then he comes in and he's like, I got a minute. I'm going to go, I'm going to go make it with this lady.

But this lady does not want to make it with him. She's got reflective eyes. She's got... She's got... She's got something else. Oh, I haven't showered in weeks. For a stuntman that has the bone structure to be painted Mexican. It's true.

They give him such a copper tone tan. They really do. And they, I mean, that's one of my favorite parts in that documentary, where that stuntman is proudly talking about the fact that he had the bone structure. Yeah. That they thought he could play a Mexican. What is Mexican bone structure? I don't know.

I have bone structure to be Mexican. That's him. Oh, take it easy. Hey, that was over the line. Whoa, buddy. We have to cut that out. I'm still feeling out the vibe here. I think after nine hours.

Anyway, I think it's the number one. It's number one, but really number two. It's number two for you. Yeah. Okay. Wait. But not for me, not for Frank. What was you?

Oh, I'm Frank. I'm Frank. You're Frank. It's number one for me. All right. Okay, we got Kerry, flank, and Kelly. Wait, but what was your number? My two was casino.

Oh, right. Okay. That's weird. We haven't talked about that yet. And yours is Goldfender. This is the David Niven Casino, Rale. My number two. Well, I'm talking about the CBS.

CBS TV with Jimmy Bond. Yeah. My number two is you only live twice. Very highly ranked. High on the list. I think this one, pound for pound, has got it all. First of all, the special effects still pretty much hold up. You get some outer, not outer space, but low earth, obit.

I'm sorry to say, I'm up in the... Challenger capsule, and I want to tell you that Margaret Thatcher passed away. She was born in Bristol. Oh, God, I can't even do comedy. I know her very well. You have our neighbors together. It's got this great sequence, plus a twist

at the end. I remember renting this movie, watching it with my dad, and going, is James? We're really dead? What happens? Yeah. Going, like, get me through these titles because I was on tenter hooks. It worked.

That one's got a twist. It's got spectacle. It's got drama. it's got it all it's got sex it's got a murphy bit that goes backwards fast it's got a twist while james bond is having a trist yeah how would carry gritt say that he got twist tist he got a twist it's got a plot twist and a twop list if you're still with this please hashtag let me just ask oh yeah go ahead pre title strong pre title strong i'm glad for these these hashtags because it's the only way I get Twitter notifications.

I just, what would you guess over the last week? How many hours of sleep you've gotten? Well, how many hours sleep would I normally have over a week? Yeah, let's say over seven times eight, 48. That's 56. Sure. 56? I'd say probably, 28, like half of that.

28. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's still a full day of sleeping, so I don't expect this kind of laziness for you. Yeah, I'm running off you. I want a foom. All right.

But for the listeners, we got a power to this. Okay. Here's what I do like about Yolololive twice. You know, it does, it does, it does, it does again another bond, bond death before, before the credits role. But the first one, right? Yes. If you don't count the fake bond death in from Russia with love. Right.

Yeah. Well, you shouldn't count that one because his face, his mask. is ripped off. It's pulled off before the two credits, so you're not like getting me through these credits. But I think you only live twice is interesting. I mean, I like seeing the Gemini Space Capsule, which was the first two-man space capsule from the American Space Program. Some of your famous Gemini pilots were also Apollo pilots. Yes, they were. I'm a Gemini.

And so am I. You know, your gym levels, your Buzz Aldrin's, your Gus Grissoms, they all flew. Great names. Great names. The late great Gus Grissel. They had great sunglasses. Yeah, they all had great sunglasses. Tune in next week for our podcast, The Sunglass Hut.

Michael Collins is my favorite astronaut. Did you know that? Why? Have you ever read his book carrying the fire? No. You ever seen his movie? It's over. With Liam Neeson?

Do you know he's in a movie and a cameo in the movie? God, is it running with scissors? No, it's some Michael. Michael Sarah is in a movie. Youth and Revolt. He is in Youth and Revolt. Michael Collins, the astronaut as an old man, plays a very quick cameo in youth and revolt. Wow.

Wow. Because I think the guy saw the document, the Ron Howard Moon documentary, where Michael Collins is interviewed. We go back to Ron Howard, too. Oh, my God, Ron Howard. Was it from here to the moon or when we got, when we handed him? No, it's not when we left Earth. It's a different one. It's a single movie.

It's not like a many-parter, but Michael Collins. Willow? Oh, Willow. Yes. Anyway, Mike Collins is, you just get a sense of humor and he's such a good guy. He's great. He's, I love that picture of like that he took from the orbiter or whatever that was. And they say that he's the only human that's not in this picture.

Yeah. That's crazy. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. You see the Earth and then you see the lander down there. Fucking mind blowing, man. Yeah. Hey, those guns that those soldiers shoot bond with in the Murphy bed? Yeah.

Stormtrooper guns. That's this British sterling gun that they threw a little couple parts on and that's what they used for the Storm Trooper Guns. Wow. Oh, I didn't know we had Al Guinness here. Al. Gentlemen? How are you doing, Al?

Very nice to be here. Are you excited about the fact that they might be doing a standalone movie for your character, Obi-1 Canobi? Absolutely. And I want you to know that I am Carrie Grant. Hold on. That man, imposter. I, Al-A-Ginn.

Well, it's good. My next question. for you, how do you feel about the rise in popularity of your other great character, Hitler? Here the thing. Here the thing. He got bad whap. Okay.

You only live twice. That's number three. Three. What was number four? Wait, I just did two. No, of the collective. Of the collective. Hold on.

So top five is... Let's start over. Gold. The last two we have to talk about. All right. That was number three. I'm sorry. Yes, but what was number four?

Because it goes Goldfinger is five. No. Spy who love me, Goldfinger. Right? Because of what I had that was four? You guys who loved me. Here's the deal. We both had Spy Who Love Me at number three, you and I.

Okay. Are you following? Okay. So a Spy Who Love Me. Okay. It's number five. Goldfinger. Okay.

Right. You only live twice. We just talked about it. because you had ranked it so highly it was ridiculous. We have another ranked so highly it's ridiculous. I know. And then we have one final one to talk about.

Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're catching my drift here? But I'm just saying our collective top five so far is Spy who love me, Goldfinger. You only live twice. And then now we all know what's next.

We all have to say our number ones. I don't know that we know what's happening. Well, yeah. I think you do. It's fair to say number one to our in a top, well, we're going to find out who's the winner. It's between Casino Royale and Living Daylights. Yes. Really? I know. This is so skewed. Like, the Living Daylights is skewing so high. I will be heard. Listen, I'm not saying it's your fault. It is my fault. Look, I've got it at

high too. I got it at number six. You're right. All right. And I'll say that if we all agreed, it would be less of a podcast. That's true. That's true. Especially if we were being monitored. And it's very true. It proves. It proves that there's something for everyone in Bond. That's right. And that nobody's ultimately going to have the same list. Like, if you found someone that ranked the 24 films the same as you, how boring would life? We'd never want to speak to that person.

You'd be so boring. But you should check in with everybody you meet to see where they stand. I mean, we only rank two the same. In this? Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to quantify these or qualify them, whichever one you choose. It's hard to really say one is coincidence.

coincidence. It's tough. This one was tough, but all right. So, okay, so we're on to my number one. Is that right? No, we got to do Matt Goerley's number one. No, Matt's number two. No. My number two was, you only live twice. Yeah, we're all on number one. We're on number one now. Oh, and we start with James. Yeah. Yeah. Which I'm glad about because then we'll, we'll save your number one. It should be number one for the number one. But my number one. Wait, wait, before you say really quickly, sorry, never mind. I apologize. Okay. It's working. Our system has worked again. Yeah. It always feels like, it always feels like about two-thirds through that it is broken. It's going to shatter.

And we are not remembering things. It's a perfect system. I can't believe I invented something math-related. Agreed. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe I said seven times eight is 48. I did not question it. I didn't even question it for a second.

We're a tired bunch. Yeah. Okay. Number one, coming in at the number one spot. Casey Case. Coming in? at number one it's the living daylights all right that's number that's three for living days by the way the only one of us who's not super tired is the only father oh this is insane but i've got old enough kids

to where yeah you know i'm past that okay living daylights i'm with you i think this is a rock solid opening it occurs on a rock yeah yes oh it really is yeah nice tying that together it could be rock solid that opening not opening shot but that first shot of them jumping out of the plane like just the way they spread from each other it's it's really yeah i chose this because look we're going to talk a pocazina around the second but i i chose this because i remember seeing i saw this in the theater obviously and it was a new bond and there's just something about it i love the that it's on gibraltar it's a real place with real monkeys yeah that's true parachuting in i'm not going to go through all of it but the carabiner

Another carabiner playing. I like that the assassin guy doesn't really speak, but he has like this character, like he's just like the way he tosses that carabiner down the line. It's nice. And then the last stunt, I think, is fantastic. The introduction of Timothy Dalton, he turns around.

You don't see him until that. We turn around, we get kind of a glamour shot there. And then that stunt of the jeep going into the thing and then landing on the boat with the pretty girl. I think it's, that's got all the elements. Frankly, I think next to

Connery's reveal is Bond. This is the second best reveal. Wow. Wow. They keep him in the shadows. They keep him, they don't see his face, and then you see him in a push-soom kind of thing, and he turns around and he looks gorgeous. Yeah. And he doesn't say who he is at that point. It's just

that you can tell by the shot that that's our guy. Yeah. Because also the other two have died. You have to hope that you haven't come to the wrong movie. That's true. That's true. Yeah, I mean, the training sequence for me. I just don't buy it. I don't buy that these double O's need training. Logic. What? You had to use your last four. You're on four. Wait a second. You don't buy that they need

training? They got to keep maybe, I mean, maybe the other guys really need training. I feel like they're not training. If they're training collectively, they're not doing it on the Rock of Gibraltar. But I feel like they're also not just training themselves. They're doing on the island of man. They're testing the security of Rock of Gibraltar so they're sending their best men in. Does that knock it up a point for you? I'll take it up one point.

Appreciate that. They're testing it for future use as like this could be a real world scenario. Well, I feel like the training is more for the troops on the ground. That's why they're sending in three top double O's to see if they can breach it. To see if they can breach the security. Yeah. Okay. It just went up another point.

That's two points for Matt's argument. You got a strong John Barry score with a little bit of synth mixed in there. Mm-hmm. You got... Not a distracting amount of synth. No. Also, the uniforms they're wearing, those jumpsuits look so cool. They're cool.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll get your one. Yeah. Okay, I'd like that. Yeah, it's the pulling the parachute that pulls him out of the back of the car. Yeah. That's nice. Ends with a good little light moment.

And then what does he say? It's something like, I'll have to call you back. Oh, yes. The large phone. Yeah. I had one of those cordless phones and the antenna would always bend. You needn? what was that the brand oh was it oh i thought you're like you you need in the phone yeah needing a phone

yeah um hold on there's more to talk about this yeah yeah em's office is in the plane oh yeah oh man yeah oh what number did you have it at jumping here 15 oh that's it got to be at least like 18 for you now right i mean sorry it's going up it's going up it's going up it's passing wait hang on whoever's going to you know take our original rankings. I'm flip flop. I'm flip flopping license to kill and living daylights.

It's now at number 11 for me. I'll leave you that are tabulating these things to handle that however you want. You go with our original rankings. Go with our original rankings. I also bumped tomorrow and never dies. Yeah, it's fine. Something else up.

But just go with what we went with. Let's see. The Jeep is awesome looking. Right. It's on fire. It's got the pink smoke coming out of it? Or is there some reason it does? Yeah.

Oh, that's because is that his? It's his... It's his... It's his... It's his... Parachute Trail. Trails? Yeah.

And there was pink paintball splatters. Hang on. I'm going to drop it down now. No, no, no, no. No, no. It doesn't make any sense. Oh, I remember what he says. It says, better make that two.

Or is that what he says? For what? What am I thinking of? Like, the line he says to the woman. Oh, yeah, I'll be back in an hour. I'll be back in a hour. I'll be back in a two. Better make that two.

They always say that this movie, especially in Dalton's character, doesn't get involved in promiscous sex, but obviously he's going for a little bit of luxury barge bow down. She's just out there by herself. Oh, Margo. So boring. So boring out here. Margo.

Nothing ever happened. And then end drops. And that's the first we meet Margo. The fat guy? No. The James Bond perennial on the over-the-phone character. I mean, it is, but imagine if this was Pierce Proust. You're saying it would be better if it was Pierce?

No, he would have cheapened it. He would have chiefted him. This attitude you have towards him is crazy. I don't know. What's crazy? This attitude that he has towards Pierce president. Pierce?

I think that, well, Timothy was right, coming right after Roger. So I think he was bringing back a little sense of not as campy, right? Doing his own stunts a lot? Do you think they would have gone as dark? Or would they have realized what they had and done it?

No, because I feel, didn't even Dalton have some input on that. Like he really wanted to approach that character that way. So they did, I think, kind of tailor it more towards him. I bet with Brosner they would have stayed in that Roger Moore. Yes. Makes you wonder, though, what you would have gotten. I can pretty much imagine.

Yeah, boy. Because it came to films later. Oh, boy. I'm just kidding. Coincidence, guys. Coincidence. Farewell. The living days.

Fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and a do. Do you ladies of Spain. There were sharks all in the water. You got city hands. You were on the Indianapolis? Oh, yeah. Got like doll eyes.

I can't do it like you. Like a dog guy. Number one with a bullet. Wait, so it's Matt, right? Matt Myra. Casano. You have it as number one? Yeah.

You know what? No matter what our differences are. We always come back to this. We always come together on Casino Real. is our number one Bond film. And also, I was trying to find reasons to not put this number one for cold open. I agree.

I agree. It almost isn't fair. I was like, oh, it's black and white. It's like, whatever, yeah. But it's like it doesn't follow the formula in any way. And I thought I should probably pick something more quintessential. But I couldn't get past it. Well, it's part of why I ranked Dr. No so high

was because it wasn't the first. And part of why I ranked this one so high is it's because it's the first sort of instance of James Bond. You know what I mean? It's his pre-O-O moments leading up to... It's got cutaways, time jump. It's... I love it.

The bathroom fight is brutal, beautifully shot. The Spartan Campbell guy. Don't know how he messed up Green Lantern so hard. But, God damn. I really love this cold open. I love that it's in black and white. I love the Columbia logos in black and white. Right.

I wanted to go back and watch those deletons. leaded scenes we talked about last week with the cricket match because he's following that guy he kills in the bathroom throughout the outdoors like bleachers of a cricket match wait i just think i wait am i thinking of the wrong movie this is the one with the crane right no that's after the title it's after the title this is the black and white he's in right he's in uh what's name god i can't believe it dryden's office right but it's flashing back to the bathroom oh does that change it for you no yeah i'm putting it further down i mean it should be higher up if he was including the parkour chase.

It should be even higher. I was thinking it was the parkour chase. I forgot about the black and white sequence. It should have been even higher if you had the parker. No, I'd go lower. It should have been number 99. In some ways, the parkour chase is the opening sequence because this is almost like prologged to that. Yeah, but I mean, we're calling it for what it is.

Yeah. Yeah, but it's the tasty, tasty cold open. It's still number one. I just think that they hit everything out of the park with this movie. They really did. Yeah. You know, it's your first bit of casting where, uh, not really your first bit, but like, you know, know a lot of concern from fans over this guy not having dark hair i mean that was really it right

they really was last one had dark hair look right i don't know how we're gonna really smooth things over when he finally joins us on the podcast if he were to come on the podcast i will be such a two-faced son of a girl who can act like none of this ever happened by the way he by all accounts is the sweetest guy right i've heard nothing but nothing but he too he is every angel i am mostly joking when Every Pierce-Brossin, like, encounter you hear about in public, or I've heard about, is just like, oh, that is above and beyond being a nice guy. Yeah. Have you seen the trailer for his new film, IT? No.

It's basically like a guy is invaded by his... He's invaded by his home security guy to get his daughter or something, but it's like, they wrote this up on birth movie's death where it's really just a movie about, old people fearing technology and not knowing how to make things work. You got to check out the trailer. I want to see the new, I want to see the one he does with Jackie Chan. I want to see that movie. They released a clip of that.

But you were talking about Daniel Craig and 007 just put up an Instagram post, www.com, of a shot from Daniel Craig's screen test where they're doing the from Rush with Love scene like they always do. And he's got no shirt on and he's got his longer blonde hair before they cut it and he's holding a gun. It's a really cool looking. Oh, maybe they'll release that on it. a digital versatile

disc. They should release all actors screen tests because since Connery, they've all had to do that scene. That would be amazing to see all their different versions of it. Ranking the screen test. Yeah.

Tune in for that eventually. We're really low on ideas. But I mean, this, like, you know, it's the first time he opens his mouth and the fight scene alone, I just think you're like,

oh, God, okay, this might be something really great, especially because you're coming off of the shit of Die Another Day, which is somehow becoming, I mean, Matt Goreley's favorite Pierce Brosman movie slowly. But surely it's climbing, if not first. It's climbing up there for you.

I watch it more than Golden Eye just because it's so stupid. It's so stupid. It's so fucking stupid. I'm looking forward to that watch. That one we should do for a live show. Yeah. That dying other day or the day. What a pile of...

Yeah. Anyway, so coming off of that and getting this gritty, serious black and white bond, you're just like, oh my God. It ends with the gun barrel sequence. Yes. It's brilliant. And then right into those blaring horns of what I think is a solid theme song. I know you don't. Not a favorite of mine, but certainly respectable.

When we have Chris Cornell on this podcast, you're going to feel real stupid. Well, he'll come on with Carrie Grant. They'll ride over together from the cemetery. Spool-Man! Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else. It's not a very long, hold open, as we've discussed, but it is impactful. That's for sure. And that's why it's ranked so highly for me.

Yeah. Well, there you have it. Wow. I can't believe we did it. at only two hours and 50 minutes. Are you serious? Yeah. We did an hour 45 and then this is an hour and five.

We can almost beat the octopusy record if we just stretch this out a little bit longer. I think there's no real reason to do that. No. It's time to wrap this up. I've never been hungrier. I'm too starving. All right. Follow James on Twitter and tweet at him that you've made it through this podcast.

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