James Bonding - Die Another Day with Ben Blacker and Ben Acker

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

The Bens join the Matts to talk about what they may or may not like about Die Another Day! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Come on. Listen, I just get angrier. Each string hit. I'm gonna tap dance like a scorpion. What the hell's going on? There's so much to dislike about the song. But if I have to. Name one thing.

If I have to pick one thing, Ben. Name it. It is the breakdown where she goes, Sigmund Freud, Analyze This, Analyze This. Oh, yeah. Was Analyze This really popular that year? I think she was just, it was on.

2002. Yeah. Guy Ritchie was watching it. It was jumping on those trends, as you guys have talked about, how the bonding movies do. Analyze this trend. Welcome to James Bonding with Matt and Matt

and our wonderful guest today. He's looking for our names in his... Matt squared and Ben squared. I was turning down the volume. It's the Ben's. Acker and Blacker. Our good friends, the Ben's. Our Ben's. Our Ben's, not Ben Folds, Ben Lee,

and Ben Harper. They're the Benz. They record it as the Benz, guys, I'm just saying. Ben Kenobi. You should get them to cover that phone. No. No one should be forced to do that. Welcome to the Pierce-Brasnan era, everybody. Oh, geez.

Buckle in, take a ride, sit your sister down and explain to her that things are going to get rough in the family for a while. Ben and Ben write the unbelievably fantastic thrilling adventure hour show that performs regularly here in Hollywood, Los Angeles. And then occasionally throughout the nation, specifically in New York, often at the Bell House in Brooklyn, right? Correct. And they're comic writers as well. right guys what don't you do yeah don't laugh at yourself

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thanks to the Affordable Health Care Act I can't hear me at all oh turn your turn your headphones up and then get up on that how's this is that better I can hear all. I can hear you. Oh, now I can hear me. Jensen Carp that shit. Get up on this.

That's a reference to a podcast. Anyway. Chart exclusive. Guys, we like to talk to everybody about their life experience with James Bond. Were you guys fans of the series? I guess I was, I don't, I liked it all right. It didn't ever stick to my ribs, you know? Yeah.

Like, I remember, I was for this podcast, I was like, what is the first James Bond movie I ever saw? And I think it was the Living Daylights. Ooh. I like the Living Daylights. I like that a lot. All I remember really is Grace Jones and deadly butterflies. Oh, you're thinking of a view to a kill. Oh, sh. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's okay. Let's take this over. Starting in.

We're here to coach you through this. Madonna. I'm going to tap dance like a dripping oil bit. If that's another brazen movie, forgive me. I guess that's, yeah, that's pretty much an illustration of, much I've taken James Bond with me. Well, that's okay. At least you've experienced it. But what I think both of us

like, and I remember it came up in college when we had that film history class. I watched like all the Connery ones. Take me the guys. Where were you in college? We were at Syracuse University together. Go around. This is Ben Blacker speaking, and then we'll voice check Ben Acker. How do you do that? Like that.

There you go. Professional. He did it. Podcast professionals. But I remember like the thing that we were we were into was basically like the James Bond fandom like the James Bond thing not necessarily the individual movies like we got into that

because I remember we had that class and we were like oh this was a way bigger thing than we realized it was so you were a fan of the documentary on the Goldfinger DVD this the Goldfinger phenomenon well it's like the the trappings of James Bond way more than any individual like I saw Goldfinger as a youth and it made an impression

but only in that like oh now I recognize all these things Yeah there's a culture that came up around it or like something bigger than the sum of it Galaxy Quest is the best James Bond movie I mean this is like we say We've never seen Star Trek but Galaxy Quest is the best Star Trek movie Oh it's great if there were a James Bond for that

If there were a movie for James Bond There is it's called it kind of was Yeah either Osperer or Johnny English Oh come on which is written by the same guys who wrote Die Another Day. Yes. I just read that. The Nolan Batman's are in many ways classic bonds.

Yeah, I mean, a lot of the Bond stuff has infused all of post-bond movies, especially after the Brosnan ones. Yeah. You know what? Those were so big. I found the weirdest thing recently, a Bond reference. Tell me if you remember this, one of the Friday the 13th movies begins with Jason walking out in the gun barrel sequence and turning to the camera.

Awesome. It has like a bond allusion. Isn't that crazy? When was that? It would have been in the 80s. It was one of the later like... Manhattan? It might be...

It's one of those. Space. Or it's either that or goes to hell. Space. I can't remember. I want to, before, yeah, speaking of space, let me, I want to read to you guys a quote from Roger Moore about this, about this here, Phil.

Oh, oh. Which is, it pretty much sums up what, what happens. And this is coming from the campiest of the bond. This is coming from our personal favorite. I think we both share that Roger Moore is our favorite. Well, I think Daniel Craig is my favorite, but I love Roger Moore. Just so we have some spice in our relationship. We got a spoon in some way.

We can't be facing each other. Roger Moore stated, I thought it just went too far. And that's from me, the first bond in space. Invisible Cars and Dodgy CGI footage? Please. He's right off. on. Look.

The guy knows what's up. I think some people have, well, I, because since I read the email, there are people who are like, me now. Some people that's, no, what's the email? I don't understand. Yeah, Myra can't read. He's not internet savvy. There are some people that I feel like are depending on the podcast, always being a little

positive about the movie, and I totally understand that because we all love Bonn, and so sometimes it's hard to hear your baby made fun of. But I think even you 3% can understand how this particular episode is going to be real fun in a different way. We're going to take this movie. We're going to take this movie to Task Town. And we're just going to kick it and see if it still is alive. We're not taking the Express. We're taking the local.

We're going to stop at every stop. And also, I just woke up. I do want to say, and as a longtime listener of your podcast. First-time caller, thank you. Ben and I have been listening to your podcast since 1987. We're big, big, big fans. But, like, on the Skyfall episode, and I saw Skyfall before listening to the episode, and I loved the movie, but then listening to you two take it apart and talk about how it makes no sense,

and yet you still really like the movie. It made me go back and watch it. And you were absolutely correct. Oh, that's nice. Because also part of the reason we have you guys on for this episode specifically is your writers. and so we want, we kind of want some answers about this movie. Oh, no, because I want some answers to the movie.

Can we get Brosno here? Brasno? Get Bronholman here. Okay, so here's the thing. I love, I love Pierce Brosman, and I'm alone in the world. I enjoy him. I think I don't think you're alone. I think there's a lot of people like...

He was great in the Cannonball Run series, right? Who am I thinking of. You're thinking of Roger Moore again. You think of Tom Deloese. I'm Jackie Lam But this is Correct pull This is Brasden's final

Final outing Rest in peace But the first for us Yeah And us too This is the 40th anniversary of Bond Ten years later They came out with Skyfall

That was the 50th anniversary This one is a little If we did I think we did talk about how Skyfall Sort of references itself And sort of like gets in a little bit on that this one goes to the next level. To the point of him picking up

the goddamn book that was written by James Bond, the ornithology book. Those are the only parts of the movie I liked. We're the parts of reference Bond and the woman who played Moneypenny. Samantha Bond. She's a Bond. Yeah, she sure is. A little inside. I will see. So is he.

That's my James Bond quip. They're so bad. I made a list of all of the single entendre's in this movie. Is it in your Dye Another Date book? Oh, guys. Dye another notes I did in honor of.

I did notes another day. I left mine at home and they're not in this book. Are you shitting me? But I'm, I have confident, I've seen this Brosnan movie the most of any of the Braznan's. All right. Well, listen, this movie opens like most do. Surfing to North Korea.

Okay. Okay. Just like Citizen Kane. Why do they have just? The footage is amazing. It's really amazing. Great job. But it's, I know there's a willing suspension of disbelief. Why do they have to surf in? It would be so much more stealthy to scuba in.

You're actually putting your operation at risk. Well, no, you go ahead. I was going to just add, or use those little single person planes that they use at the end. Yeah. Those are great. You mean the switchblade? The switch player. The thing about it is, I want him surfing in.

It felt like, well, the music behind this, okay, so it opens on three dudes surfing. And the music implies that this is a surf chase. Like the music straight up implies that one of these guys is bond. We'll never know which one. We're not getting that close. But one of them is being pursued by two. And you're going to see some crazy surf shit. Are you a race?

Where one of them takes down two of them. And then they land on the beach and they're like, shaking hands about it. Like, we did a good job surfing. And then they embrace a net funicello. Right? Right. They have a bit of a clammy. And then you'll never see those two guys.

No, of course not. And the rage is there. Like, why did they serve? Why didn't they? Yeah. From the jump. But here's what we know about North Korea. Great surfing.

Yeah. And that's just... It's Australia, Hawaii, and North Korea. Right? Oh, those are your go-toe. Kahuna is a Korean word. But then they open up the surfboards. Yeah, they open up the surfboards.

And there's gadgets in there, and then you can't fault them for it. There's a... That's where this is put into disbeliefers. Oh, all of the things, these non-sentranemns. The gadgets are C4. The gadgets are C4. a knife with a transmitter and a canister of Mr. Zog's sex likes.

But why I'm so angry at the transmitter for having to also be a knife? Why can't that just be a transmitter? I love the Dick Tracy brand C4. Did you notice that the C4 was labeled C4? This is what this is. Well, you need to know.

They were going after Big Face, right? Oh, no. That's another thing about this movie, is while watching it the first time, I called that guy Diamond Face. Oh, yeah. That's what he's called, right? No, that's the thing of it. He's not called Diamond Face.

Nobody in the movie calls him Diamond Face. It's implied. It's totally implied. That's how far they've come. Well, when General Moon turns home and says, my son, diamond face. Given name. Huge coincidence, but given name. The two of a guy's.

Zau is not Diamond. Is Diamond Face. Ricky Yu. Sun Moon is the guy's name. Sun Moon. That's lazy. Okay. So here's where we open up. So we open up North Korea.

Because we need some communist action, because James Bond's been missing communism for a while. That's true. So James Bond takes over the place of this guy who's bringing in diamonds to the North Koreans for some in exchange for hovercraft. You know, just in general, though, you have to say, because when the Cold War ended and Russian communism ended and we lost our great enemy for film, and then we had to go to the second level communist. like we're either Cuba now or North Korea or China.

B-list communist. Yeah, it really is because they're also, this just doesn't feel that. It's like your town doesn't have a T.J. Max, you're forced to go to Ross. Yeah. It felt like throughout the movie also, to me, that... To everyone. Whatever you say is, for sure.

I understand it's for the general populace. But that it's a political statement of a guy who doesn't follow politics. You know, like there was the, when they get to Cuba, and there's like all the women knitting. Yeah. Yeah. Like, they're making cigars.

And like the, the statement about landmines and how America is responsible for the, like it all felt like, yeah, we're scoring some points here. I don't really read the news, but it's been explained to me.

America's gift of one million landmines and our hovercrafts just float over them. But James, before that... Did you just play a clip from the movie? I sure did. It's all in my head. But before that, James says, bit of a minefield out there.

Oh. Not even a pun. Now, that's the thing. That's the thing. It's a reverse pun. It's full of that. They're not even single on town or is they're half on time. Oh, no.

Sometimes they are. Sometimes they are just like, here's a thing that sounds dirty. Yeah. Dicks and boobs, he says, at one point. Your vagina's in my eyesight. That's her name also. Lea. The best bond girl.

She keeps saying I'm up here. Lee Tamarai. Terrible. Temori. Terrible director. Tamahori. He did once, We're Warriors.

Yeah. Bad movie. The war spawning. The film. He also did a stint in prison for soliciting sex as a woman, right? From a police detective. I liked The Edge.

Waited. But I also liked this movie at one point. So I was young and dumb. If you watch that again. He did a long came a spider. The Edge, the Alec Baldwin. We were talking about. talking about it.

Mammot wrote that. Mahaland Falls. Mamet didn't write that. You're thinking of Mahalana Avenue. Mahaland Drive? Mahaland Drive. The street. Yeah, Mahal and Falls is not a good movie.

Once were Warriors. Not good. Triple X, State of the Union. Which was basically a Bond movie. Which is not... Which is the one where they couldn't get Van Diesel. As I found my notes, I do have them. Yeah.

No, I loved the movie. Oh my God But yeah This guy has a fun fascination With the thing that Final Cut Pro could do In 2002 Which was the No, not even Star Wars

It's the ramping It's the speed ramping Yes, that's right Which is let's not over undercrack the camera So we don't get any more footage We'll just slow it down And make it look choppy Yeah this movie could have been a half hour long

Oh Yeah They would have needed more plot Before we get too far ahead I want to talk about that very beginning in the gun barrel sequence because this is the first time ever that when Bond fires in the gun bell

graphic the bullet comes out of his gun and goes into the barrel of the gun of the person. Have you noticed that? This is the first time a bullet comes out of his gun. There's a CG bullet that flies into the gun barrel. I really like that. You did?

No, when I was a kid. Oh, wow. Well, when I was 20. Was this in 3D? It comes out of the barrel. into somebody else's barrel, whooping in each other's butts for him. Basically, yeah. Well, I mean, you're also now taking the opinion of it is okay for us to see blood drip through a gun barrel.

I've all, yeah, it doesn't make sense either way. I know, but it just feels a little like, come on. There was an element of this credit sequence. That's what we're calling them, credit sequence. Yeah, pre-credits, yeah. Oh, the title sequence? The cold open? We're calling it with cold open.

We're still in the cold open. We're not talking about the title sequence. We're going to get to that very shortly. All right, let me know. We have to first discuss that he says, saved by the bell after literally being saved by a bell. Yeah. I watched the documentary about the writing of the script.

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Was a yakety sax playing the whole time? There's just two people typing and yagged by them. And these two dudes, Purvis and who's the other one? Wade and Wade. Yes. We're so pleased with themselves about getting to do this.

And I could only see them like after the camera or something edited out with Purvis going, yes, obviously high-fiving. But then going like, you know what? If he grabs a bell at the end of the sequence, you know what we can put in. This is why we wanted you two on there as a writing partner because Matt and I have this theory that because Pervers and Wade have been writing these for a while. But when they get good in the Craig era, there's a third person like your Paul Haggis or your John Morgan involved. and we're thinking, it's got to be them, right? I mean, if you're listening, Bervers, or Wade. I agree, but I think also there's a, it seems like in the Daniel Craig ones,

there's a little more, there's someone steering the ship, a little more strongly, whether it's the director or the producers have taken more of a hand to give it a cohesion. I don't know. And I think even they knew they were going for something more realistic, but still, like, I want to think that those Skyfall plot problems are theirs and that were, because they're not on the next film. It's just John Logan

and that we're going to see something a little bit more coherent or something. There's a part in this pre-credit scene where James Bond takes sunglasses off a guy and puts them on himself. That's right. And that is his disguise. With these single entomers

and literal like saved by the bell, it's like he's an like a simpleton. He's just saying what he's seeing. Helicopter. Every scene feels born in the moment. Diamond explosion. I just walked in.

I exist starting now until then. But it kind of was if you watch that documentary, which I highly recommend. Why do I know about that? It's on the Blu-Rae. It's probably on the Blu-ray and neither rest have bothered. Yeah. I bought it. It was $7.99 and a me-bubber.

I paid more than that for the iTunes download. You guys. You deserve a reimbursement. I love that you didn't spread this. But on the documentary. There was no time. Ben, you're right. Like, that's how every action scene was written.

It was like. But not just action scene. We'll have an action scene here. and then the stunt director would go to the site and be like, all right, here's the stuff we have. Here's the land we have. And we have these hovercrafts. So I guess here's what we'll do.

By the way, notoriously, hovercrafts not very maneuverable. And slow. Slow as shit. You're watching guys chase each other with fans. Two miles and out of air, yeah. It's just fans powering them. That whole pre-credit sequence did not feel like a bond opening to me. Am I wrong to say that?

No, no. Well, we talked about this, too, with Thunderball, that it felt like we have. a scuba mask, we have a jet pack, we have this stuff, let's write around that. It's like an episode of the show Chopped, where you're given a certain ingredients. And that's, it's reverse engineering of a story, and it's

the worst way to go. Let me quickly say to, we have no proof that this is Perverson Wade's fault necessarily. Right, it could be the prop guy. If Pervis and Wade would like to come on, we'll gladly have you here. And we're sorry. I mean, we're not above grovelling. Yeah.

We'll tell you how great you are. Johnny English was fantastic. You couldn't even shut up. It felt like to me, like when... So James Bond, if you haven't seen it, James Bond has the disguise of sunglasses. Was there a mustache attached to the sunglasses?

No, they were somebody else's sunglasses. It was like, you'll know me by by Oakley's. And he goes up to Moon, who's the villain of the piece, and introduces himself as a Dutchman. Right. And Moon surreptitiously takes his picture with the biggest camera you've ever seen. scans it, sends it, gets back, this is not whatever the fake name is.

This is James Bond. Right. It felt like beginning there, like he's the worst... Worst Bond ever? Well, no, he's the worst spy. Like, worst covert spy. But that's, like, there's been hay made of that kind of thing in spoofs forever. And it felt like they were trying and failing to reappropriate the tropes from the spoofs.

Yeah, like, you can't have those. Those are ours. Yeah. Like, we've, we know. Jennifer Garner did better spy work in a blue wig. Don't you talk about alias like that? I've never seen it. I don't know.

What? You'd love it. What I? Oh, my God. It's like better James Bond. It's a great spy movie every week for three seasons. For three seasons. One fewer than they made.

Lenslares? Are there lens flares? We don't understand your references. Let me grab this for a second. I just want to quickly. I also say that I like Brosnan. He seems, as a person he seems really great. As an actor, he's generally,

I like him quite a bit. As Bond, I'm not really. No. It was weird. He was giving... I disagree with everybody. I think he was giving a TV performance. I agree. Oh, in all of these. I think he was, I honestly think he was frustrated with what was going on with the script. Well, can I say, too, that there is another

YouTube documentary that has been going around again recently where he's interviewed right at the beginning of this movie, and he says, quote, excited that this is going to be character piece and this is really going to get back to basics and I look forward to giving my most perfunctory performance in the history of the world like

it's a felt a lot like what are my marks I am on him. It felt like yeah he was in a multi-camp sitcom yeah in his defense he was and in this documentary they talk about how the broccolies always make

it a character piece and that is their strength as producers they always bring it back to character clearly this was made way before the movie. By the way, he comes out of the North Korean prison for a year looking fatter than when he went in. I don't know what they're giving on. It's true. It's true. It's fatty.

I mean, he's probably just rice paper a little. Oh, yeah, when he comes out of the James Beard. I'm awarding this to you. Too soon. The finest chef. Okay. So here's what happens, essentially. If you're following along, and haven't seen the movie in a while.

Bond is in North Korea. Trying to stop these guys from selling weapons to somebody. Uranium powered weapons. Yeah, depleted uranium shells, which is that's the best stuff. Also the heaviest. Is it for a time machine? That's real, though. Yeah, yeah.

Thanks, real. We're making fun of it anyway. Well, we got, we got to draw the line somewhere, guys. We can't do it. North Korea is also real. No, no, it's not. There's a Northwest Korea. People usually have it wrong.

I fly north risk, weird. So he gets captured and is in prison for quite a while, and then a torture scene happens under the wonderful bedding. This is the first time we ever get a story element to the title. Yes. I was going to say about it. They imply scorpion torture. Right.

For some reason. And that's a big motif, too. Just for the secret. Just for Mobe. Is it Mo? Who's the guy that works with Madonna on this song? David Arnold? No.

Oh. I thought it was. No. Oh, he does the score. Is it Movie? Can I get a little volume over here on the... Now, really? Again. We need to.

Rosenpun Pike, by the way. Oh, she's great. Delightful. World's end. Yeah, she's in the world. But she's always based. I mean, she's great. I think she's the best thing about this movie, to be honest.

She is in... She's in spaced? He asserted it. It's true. I will I am D.B so I'm not wrong. I don't think she's... And then I'll find out I'm wrong.

But she's always good. And maybe one of the better... Well, and fine. She's great in Sean of the Dead when she shows up also being with that group of other friends that are just like... That is... No.

Don't fuck with my head. Just say yes, so we can move on. Does you think she's Jesse Heinz? Yeah. Okay. Do I? No, she's great. Do I think she's Jesse Heinz?

Yeah. I can't tell British people apart. You think she's Chrissy Heinz. It's like... Yes, I think she's She wrote the song with producer Mirwa's Amad. Calada. Amadzai with French composer Michel Colombier.

Oh, those were the villains in the movie. Yeah. Wow. I thought it was like orbit or something. Orbit, like the gum? I don't know. I don't know. What am I?

A rap guy. Orbital. Is what you're thinking. I'm not a rap guy. Orbital. The gum. Yeah. Okay.

In any event, I think we can all agree. That it's a bad song. Even as Madonna songs go. That's what I'm thinking of. She's in Johnny English Reborn. For me, it's the worst. She is in Johnny English Reborn, and I'm not thinking about instead of space. You totally won.

Thank you? Yeah. It's my podcast. Watch out. It's, for me, it's the worst Bond song there is, and that's including Never Say Never Again, which even in the movie has like a tape warble to it. Like it's been played off a cassette. And it's coming after the garbage song.

Yeah. Which I really like. Yeah. The world is not enough. I think it's a really good song. I like how tepid it is. Yeah. Like just not in performance, but in sentiment.

This song or... Yeah, this song is... The whole thing is so watered down. Like, a James Bond, like, Goldfinger is going to mess you up. Yeah, it's grandiose. Live and let die. This is like, I don't have to die today. I die another day.

Yeah. Like, I'm not putting it off super long time. Yeah, I can't die today, because today I'm singing a really laconic... Yeah, it's just letting you know that, um, I don't know that. Not today, guys. He's not dying today. There are no stakes. There are no stakes here. He's not dying today. So, yeah, he gets tortured by that lovely Korean lady that he probably...

Never see again, right? Her name's Jill. Tread Korean name. Then he's exchanged for Diamond Face. Okay, a huge question here. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, the Koreans are sending over there a British prisoner, and the British slash Americans are sending over their prisoner.

You don't want to keep the diamonds? From his face? You don't want to take the diamonds out of his face? He would die. No. No, they're not on any major artists. No, I think they're actually keeping something from his... It's like an arc reactor, really.

They're like tiny arc reactors in his face that's keeping shrap-up moving to his heart. Then when he's getting DNA replacement therapy, you don't want to take the most significant thing about your appearance out. You don't know about DNA replacement therapy could fill a book. I just don't, oh, I want to hear this scene real quick. This is the, let's scan James Bond with lasers and, uh, scorpion. Oh, yeah, Scorpion, Valmone. Blood pressure 120 over 80.

Indications. Standard laser information. Yes. Histamine serotonin and enzyme inhibitors. Scorpion venom. Mm. Note also traces of a phenom antiserum. Two doctors talking to each other?

No, that may have to explain this. That's the robot. Oh, is it? It's the laser robot. There's no doctors in there. Him. Liver not too good, guys. That whole thing was for that.

That whole thing was, get it, he drinks you, yeah. But also I'd like to point out, as a writer, you brought us here as writers. As a writer, the idea that what does James Bond have to do in the crossroads of the soul that is being tortured throughout

a credit sequence? What does he have to do to get out? Like, as a character? Nothing. He just got traded. Also, it was very unclear to me. me, and I know this is probably just me, I don't know why they were torturing him. It seemed like they wanted to know who...

No, it wouldn't be that. I have no idea. Yeah, I think they just wanted general... General information. Well, guys, general information. But also... General Moon's new... This is general information.

But he kept... I'll tell you why they tortured him. Yes. Because the guy that he killed in the hovercraft chase was the son... General Moon. General Moon, but his father outranked him by one. Right.

Colonel Moon or whatever. And so that's the guy that caught him. And so they're torturing him because he killed his son. You're all wrong. And the real reason is in the dialogue. And he wants to know. It's a dialogue in this? The guy just wants, General Moon or Colonel.

Whichever is the highest ranking moon wants to know who, full moon wants to know who, Full Moon wants to know who Half Moon's ally in the West was. Right. That's what I thought. But don't they already know? Because it's. Their ally too? Yeah.

No. It was a lot of, because he was going row. There was a lot of half moon acting on his own. Yeah, yeah. He launched a satellite. Yeah, that's why full moon is pissed and wants to know this stuff. Yeah, Half Moon somehow got away with launching a satellite in North Korea with no one else noticing. And not just any satellite.

A real genius satellite. Yeah, easy enough when North Korea is real successful at rocket missions, too. Well, this is before when they were. Also, that, I mean, that kind of stuff and then this whole weird, like Prometheus. style medical bay. The whole thing feels so weirdly sci-fi in a terrible way. His robot suit at the end.

This whole... He should have gone for a full Iron Man suit. Yeah, the Nintendo controller thing that he had. Oh, yeah. The real sensible, like, let's not shoot a person. Let's electrocute him, kind of. With Star Wars Emperor-style electrocution. It was very mid-80s.

It was Ghostbusters, Star Wars, like that era, special effect. But it was 2001. This is the scene where Pierce Brosman doesn't try at all. So much so that he doesn't even try to be British. He just lets his Irish accent fly. Which scene? Is this the medical thing? The whole movie.

Oh, I thought he was supposed to be an Irish bond. I'm not even kidding. No, here. This is a lovely dame, Judy Dench, and Pierce. I never asked to be traded. Yeah. This is Irish. I'd rather die in prison that led him loose.

You had your son. Are you listening to what I'm saying? Wait, wait for the yell. The top American agent in the North Korean High Command was executed a week ago. The Americans intercepted a signal from your prison naming him. And they think it's me. You were the alien mate. For the home viewer.

They concluded you cracked under torture. When he says me, he points at himself. And when he says you, he points at her. It's the best act. How would you know otherwise? I still don't understand. And why do you say? then he points some more.

When does he point at the audience? He's pointing at them right now. No, when he said, what to you think? He actually waved his hands at the screen. Let me explain to you. What's the time codes that he wants to point him? 24, above 24 minutes. Number one is, no deals.

Get caught and you're giving up. Yeah. He's not, he's not even trying to. I really, really, because I have not seen any other Brosno bonds. I really, really thought he was supposed to be Irish. Big point. knew about it. Whether that's true or not, it's irrelevant.

No, it isn't. It's a tariff. The same person who set me up then has just set me up again. It gets out. So I'm going after him. Any place you're going, he's our evaluation center in the Falklands. What are my lucky charms there? You're missing some more point.

Here's the, here's a lot of pointing in this scene. My problem with this when this movie came out was that he has to go rogue. and I'm not a huge fan of James Bond going road. It's too many in a row. I really just want James Bond to go do something. When did he go rogue prior to this? World is not enough. He goes rogue. Well, I'm going right before this.

World is not enough, he goes rogue. Right after this. I only know the song. Right before this and right after it. Doesn't he say in this movie that going rogue is part of the job? I hope not. He goes rogue in all three Daniel Craig movies. Yeah.

Yeah, but I believe that guy going wrong. Yeah. Can't be contained. That's right. He goes rogue in the nicest of suits. Yeah, he's, so here's the thing. Bond now has to escape this sort of prison. So he just hold on.

He Batman's it. Oh, he fakes a heart attack? This is where I had this. Oh, he slows his pulse to nothing. I had a storybook record when I was a kid where Batman would slow his pulse and make people think he was dead. And now I feel like since that happened in all sorts of popular. culture is just a given that you can do that. You can't do it.

But the point of this movie is that anything that comes along is something he can do. Jesus. I just did it. I did it together. Also, right after he tricks everybody to thinking he's dying, he shocks the doctors, but waits for mouth to mouth from

the nurse, and then says thanks for the kiss of life. Which isn't a phrase. No. No. Let's take a look at when Purvis and Raid were writing. And they're like, are they going like, this'll do? Or they're like, you know, I think they're like nailed it.

I heard you could do that. That's right. Why haven't we used that? What should we have him say? Thanks for putting your mouth on my mouth. That's good, but. We can top it. We can top it.

You know that common phrase? Thanks for giving me the kiss of life. Oh, yes, the kiss of life. I know it, but we'll... Don't talk so fast. I can't write it all of it. Is it too ubiquitous? They haven't given us computers.

What's the line? Fuck you kiss of life for. I don't understand. Thanks for fencing me awake. Also, like, he just wants to get out of this place, right? And he's James Bond, and he just needs to get by some doctors. But this is, couldn't he just kind of push past them? These doctors are trained spies.

Are they also licensed to kill? Stopping your own heart. The hypocrite, though, they're not allowed to. They're licensed to. First, do no harm, but also kill. Stopping your own heart is akin to the karate chop on the shoulder. That doesn't exist either, really, you know? The one that knocks people out.

This is a real MythBusters episode. I know, yeah, yeah. He then, I'm not 100% sure he knows where he is. He probably has a good idea that I'm probably in Hong Kong Bay. I don't know where he is. There will be a sign in English about it in two minutes. There will be, yes. I kind of like this part.

I thought he swam from London to Hong Kong. Because by this point in the movie, I was ready to believe any. Sure. Well, he surfed most of the way. They just didn't bother show you. I found a note. Can we drop this? Yes, go. The Save by the bell line, he said that only to himself. There was nobody else in the scene.

That's very much in character of James Bondo. That's when he pointed to the audience. He only says things to himself. That was for nobody's benefit. Okay, so he then leaves the naval ship and swims to the Hong Kong Yacht Club. There's something I like about this sequence. In pajamas. Yeah. But then when he leaves the naval ship.

gets out of the water, he doesn't even, I think that he should just button up. Just button up. Yeah, that, yeah. You get like less of a crazy look. Yeah. You know? As of the dench scene, yeah. According to my notes, we're 23 minutes in. Correct. And we don't know what anybody wants or why. Which will continue for the next two hours. Yeah. You are a hundred percent correct. Uh, I do, I do like, I do, I like this scene, too. I like the idea that James Bond has this relationship with the Hong Kong yacht. Yeah, if you're going to go cartoon James Bond. And it breaks the mirror and the...

Yeah. The butler in the hotel and the general sun, moon. Yep. Both in their subtitles had ellipses. Like, they talked at a full clip, but in their subtitles, it was very dramatic. I don't think I've seen ellipsies and subtitles before. Oh. You're not, that's the only way you'll understand this movie is if they really spill everything out for you.

I think the reason we like this scene is because it's like Roger Moore-era stuff. Or he's, Bond as a celebrity in the crime world and like people know who he is, you know? Yeah, I just, yeah, I like the idea, too, of him just to have, having had a past. That you haven't seen that mission. Yeah. And having had some good credibility built up amongst, you know, whoever's there. But I will say, and this goes back to Ben's point, about like, anything, any obstacle that comes up, even something as small as being able to check into this hotel and having no belongings, there's no problem with it. It turns out to not be an obstacle.

Yeah, he's never behind the eight ball through this whole movie. Right. You never get a sense of. The stakes are never raised. There is, I don't know if you've ever spoken about product placement. Oh, yeah. We have, yeah. And this movie.

There's no way you get that close a shave for. an electric razor. No, I agree. I bought that Narelo. When that movie came out, the Dying of the Day edition, Norelco. Look, look at that.

This movie, it fucking should have. Electric razor in my notes. This movie... Bond doesn't shave with an electric razor. He shaves... A straight razor. And like a regular razor on a bad day, you know?

And also a gun. Yeah, yeah, he shoots every bullet. He actually shoots each hair. He takes a length of a length of it. rope and strangle the hair. He does. He does the equivalent of eyebrow threading. Yeah, but this will we immediately see the

placement of the brioni. I love that the shirts are still in the bags with the tags on them. Well, this movie got a lot of flack for having so much product placement. This movie, in case you're wondering, this is the time when Ford owned

Jaguar, Land Rover, and Aston Martin. Which is why you see a Thunderbird, a Land Rover, a Jaguar, and an Aston Martin in this movie. Jesus. Yeah, there was, I think it was Roger Ebert or some, like, big critic was like, this whole thing is just like a lot of commercials. And he's always had product placement. Yeah, but this is the worst.

The next level. And there was a line, Hong Kong is Chinese intelligence turf. Like, that was a new thing. This is our turf, Bond. Well, it was because. You call him Dr. Bond. Was it two years before this? No more passion was turned back over to the Chinese authorities.

That makes sense. And they had to explain it to Americans. Yeah. You didn't watch this out. To a British secret agent. Who wouldn't be up on politics? But their plan, that's the thing. Everybody's plan in this was dumb as dirt.

Their plan, they're in his room. They're watching him through a mirror. What assumes they're armed? They're armed with a camera. Yeah, their plan is to get a masseuse. To shoot them. Here's the fun. Here's the fun.

Not just shoot him from the wall where they are. Yeah. Let's have a listen to. So they want him dead. Fun character. No. Fun Chinese character actor. And here it is.

I think just for protection, she's an agent. You think I haven't always known your Chinese intelligence, Chang? Hong Kong's out of now born. Well, don't worry about it. I'm not here to take it back. I love how quickly Chang turns. But hey, what's it what's going on? His delivery in here is how it is through the whole movie

where he's just like, well, I guess you always knew. Like, he's barely there. If you watch this, there's a look. that he gives that I have I have no I have no idea what is going through Pierce Brousen's head but there's a look he gives at the end after they've walked out

where he just seems sad to not have friends podcast like what is that that's it's a 30-207 this is the problem with Brasnan he wants it both ways and when he wants to do campy one-liners that are right on the nose he delivers him campy and then he wants to be really serious with the drama and then especially when he gets hurt

he does that like really intense hurt acting. The smolder. Yeah, the smolder. It's soap opera acting. It's really, it's what doesn't work about these movies. At least Roger Moore always stayed to the campsite. In fact, we're going to find out when we get to For Your Eyes Only, which I know is a favorite of many people. It doesn't work for me in a way because.

That's our last one. I know because Roger Moore, it's hard to see him in that real sense. After For Your Eyes Only, are you guys going to go to like the Jimmy Bond cartoon? We, people have asked us as though they're fanned. of it to go to the James Bond Jr. cartoon, which I have no desire to... There's a lot of tertiary material. Oh, sure. In fact, you'll do Flint.

Stretch this out. Oh, we should do in like Flint. Yeah, yeah. And then Austin Powers. Like the great outdoors. Just the movies of Van Nuptoid. Maverick, probably. The People versus Larry Flint. Every number seven of any...

Every seven movie. Star Trek Generation. Then just merge this with Doug Love's movies. Yes. Perfect. Speaking of this game. This is always how to this get made. Speaking of the comics, I just want to say a quick thank you to Patrick Guaschino, who sent us these... James Bonnambus.

Hold them up to the camera now. Here we go. I'm holding them up to the mic. They sound great. That one was the stripping goldfinger. No, but he sent us these omnibuses of the comics, and they're fantastic. So thank you very much, and we're going to pass them around and all swap them. Can I color them in?

Yeah, that's what they're... Should we sign them and send them back? If anyone wants to send us stuff, Ben and I need some stuff. Yeah, send them stuff. James Bond or otherwise. We have several podcasts between us. Meltdown's addressed. I'll get it.

We have an Amazon bridal registry where we, I really need like a wooden salad bowl. I need a baby Bjorn. Oh, do you? I just need an infant and a Bjork CD. Okay, so he goes to Cuba. Has Bjork done a Bond theme? She should. she should.

She would be. Don't shoot me because I'm a small. I hide in a hot and my boat is a butterfly. Myra's impression of Bjork is perfect. Wait a minute. What? Was that Bjork? Bjork doing Zelda Rubenstein?

God's the other day. Caroline, don't go to the light. Here, I'm Zelda Rubinstein and Julie Hegerty. And Bjork and H.R. Geiger. Yeah, is Bjork Zelda Rubinstein plus H.R. Geiger? There's a spectrum. It starts with Zelda Rubinstein and ends on Geiger. This was my favorite Michael Jackson video.

It goes like, yes, yes. It goes like this. It doesn't matter, Caroline, if you're black or white. Oh, please don't eat the fish. I'm Julia Eggerty. I have to wear a swan dress to do poetry. And I am H.R. Gigger. If you don't win a Tony for podcast. Thank you.

Thank you. Are you listening, Shorties? Webbies. Shorties. Are there awards? I don't know. Isn't there a Shorty Award or something? What is that? Shorties, webies, geekies.

Shorties. Shorties watching Shorties, Comedy's Metro. Oh, I forgot. Oh, bring it back. See the fun that can happen when a cartoon infant Janine Garofalo watches her bit on coffee? Was that what it was? That's right. Shorties watching shorties. How did that? Get made. There's another podcast.

You guys do have a lot of podcasts advertising on your podcast. I try to do it as much as possible. Speaking of that, the Nerdist Writers' Panel is hosted by a Ben. Blacker in this very room, which is No joke, a fantastic podcast. And a great room. It's a great room. It's a great room.

It's a little warm. I told Gourley this, I'm trying to get a a Bond writer for it. We'll get you guys on. I told you that. I'm on it. I'll be here. I won't leave.

I hope you don't get deported until then. Well, we'll see. I'm going to be in here and just a reverse hammock, just hovering above the mic in a weird sling. What's a reverse hammer? Go to Target. I don't know. I don't know what.

I have no idea. It's a tent. A reverse hammock is a tent. No, it's like a hang gliding suit. Yes. But attached to the ceiling. Speaking of hang gliders. Oh, yeah.

This movie loves parachutes and hang gliders. Guys, we should get back to the movie. We'll be right back. We are right now, but right now we are in the nine and a half minutes of this movie that I enjoy and find watchable. Okay. Can we skip it? And that starts when. With the binoculars?

That starts with, uh, that starts with him getting to the yacht club. and it ends with him encountering Halliberry. That's the second I stopped. You know you're wrong, right? About what? That whole chunk and this whole movie. I like the idea of him activating a sleeper agent in Cuba that has been dormant for God knows how long.

I did like that when he comes into the... That was cool. Delectados? Something felt like, oh, we're seeing Bond in a new environment. To me, that I realized, I haven't seen all that bond. Is this when he's walking through Cuba? He's here all the time? Yeah.

Okay, so when he's first walking through Cuba in his, like, spy casual shirt. And behind him as the camera tracks is like the most Coca-Cola commercial version of Cuba everywhere. Like people playing Spanish guitars. Yeah. That, I just, that drives me a little crazy. Like it does feel like theme park Cuba or something.

Well, it's also shot in Spain. But I do like. That's what Cuba was like. Was it? For all you know. In 2002? Just that one year, they really embraced the world's perception of them. Cuba was a lot like the grove.

Cuba actually is now owned by the Caruso family If you don't know who that is, listeners Neither do I They are the building developer and owner of the Americana And the Grove I go there all the time Because I live near it I love their work

When Hallie Berry comes out of the water We're not there yet Can we please get there already Right now we're Cuba Okay Right now we're in Cuba And everybody I want you all at home to take a look at the movie and just look at

the sleeper agent's desk of antiquities. What the fuck is he doing up there? A lot of Civil Wars. He's got a canon. Can you please? Can you please get my inkblotter? I want to look at it.

I will put it next to my ivory-handled pistol. Bring all my chotchkes. Just lay them out on it. It is nice to see him have like a Colombo or a Carambay another kind of mentor. Amathis. Yes. This Karen Bay.

These are these figures that pop up regularly in the Bond, like some older agent or head of section that kind of helps them out in some way. Not a mentor exactly, but just kind of a... Just the guy who knows the area better than Bond does. So who we are in Cuba,

he is now... Wait, what is he doing? How does he get to Cuba? He now knows that... Okay, he now know... We'll just speed this. He now knows that we... He has to go to Cuba

because Zau's there. That's all he knows. He doesn't know why Zau's there. Let's not even bother with the plot. Honestly. What are we them? Yes. What are we them? Exactly. All right, let's take this. That trip to Cuba, though it is cool. It really is like a side step, right? Yeah. Well, it's Bruce Wayne going to Hong Kong. Yeah. Well, it feels like we know we're in Iceland. Let's put a tropical place here. Here's what it is. It's reverse engineering again. All it does is plant a nugget for James Bond to later figure. out that Gustav Graves is Moon. Yeah, but it could be anywhere. Right. But also, that's the stupidest

thing in this movie. Oh, yeah. Of course it is. Well... This movie's really stupid. But that's... We have to talk about... Stupider than a ice palace. We have to talk about what my least... My least favorite performance in the history of James Bond.

Oh. Is Hallie Berry's performance in this movie. Really? I would take Denise Richards over this any day of the week. I couldn't go that far. when pressed. The first scene with the two of them together talking

feels like the first actual scene in this movie. What? It feels like that's where the movie starts. It's where it starts. It's also like this is a scene where two characters want things.

They're saying things to each other. They're listening to each other. If you have it in your head and it feels like it's translated from Italian. But the producers only want to, yeah, you're reading subtitles from an Italian movie. The producers wanted to spin this off

into a Jacks movie. You could tell. Jinks, whatever the fucker name. That's right. That was a big deal. Yes. I watched this movie. I had heard that rumor.

I watched this movie with a friend of ours who was with the NSA at the time. That's right. What? And I said, do you think it's been to an NSA? And she said, no. We don't want any credit.

We don't want to be in the public eye at all. My boss would never like they have chats about it. Like they could stop them, you mean? Like they were going to... Like it just... They'd blow them up. Oh, my God. It would get on set accident.

Well, they may... Jason Lee. No, that's not... What's his name? What's my reference? That's it? The Crow? Bruce.

Bruce Lee's son. Yeah. Yeah. No, Jason Lee's from Mulrats. Oh, Brandon Lee. Yeah. Yeah, well, we were with you. Yeah.

So, hey, they play Mooraker music when she comes out of the water. Did you notice that? Yeah. Okay. Did you notice that he offered her... They put her in Ursula anders. He'll see why you have to yell at me. He offers her a mojito after he drinks out of it.

Oh, hold on. That's so weird. You got problems with the Irish accent. I got problems with the way this guy says mojillo. Oh, it's like how my mother says fajitas. Well, she goes, you want a mojito. Oh, then it's not. Not like that.

Not Bond James Bond. Not Bond James Bond right. I know, right? Born on Friday to 13th. Like, what the fuck? Do you believe in bad luck? People poop. Let's just say, my relationships don't seem to last.

We don't know what that means. We've never met her before. Oh, also there's a callback to that, which I didn't realize was a callback. Right. Because it comes an hour and a half later. Right. And why is that? It's when their prey comes out to drink.

That's not a thing. This is a bit. Too strong for you? When he... I can learn to like it. If I have a time. How much time have you got? Until dawn.

Get it? What about you? Oh, I'm just here for the birds. That means women. Also the jerk chicken. Here we go. Look at his dick. Wow.

Yeah, she was interested. I'm really into seagulls. There's so much air in their conversation. This should go at such a faster clip. It was directed by someone who doesn't speak English. Oh, yeah. No, it was like a kids in the hall parody of... It felt like that kids in the hall parody of Italian sex...

Yeah. It's Francesca Furek. Yeah. Is this... This is the Bond film with zero connection to anything Fleming. I think this is the only one where there isn't a single Fleming thing in there that I can think of, except for, like, the Bond book. The book that he had on his shelf?

Yeah, because even the world is not enough is Bond's family motto. at least the title comes from something. Yeah. But here we have the most graphic, only time in the history of the bonding up to this point that James Bond has actually shown in the middle of sex. Climaxing. And during, she produces, she's naked. She produces a knife and a piece of fruit. She's been holding the whole time.

Yeah, she sure has. That she quarters for no reason. I will make the argument that when Bond beds the girl too soon, We lose something for the movie. Like his conquest is already over. Same thing with license to kill. This is the Bond Girl in the movie. Yeah, she's so different.

You know why she's different? Because in the morning when James wakes up, she's not there. That's why it's different. You know what my next note is? DNA replacement therapy. Jesus. Mine is, if you have a guy in a wheelchair,

you don't need a clipboard to get into anywhere you want to go. Mine is welcome to the 1978 Disney World presentation of DNA. When he walks through the mirror. Dinosolos? Dino DNA. Speed ramps, let's see. Zaud dodged a bullet. Zow dodged a bullet.

Literally. In his pajamas. Yeah. From like a far away like, it's probably a bullet. Bloop. Yeah, he dodged a bullet. He also, that action scene particularly of Halliberry running after the helicopter is if you,

showed me that and told me this is the latest Bollywood feature I would believe it. But she's running after it on roofs and is shooting people in it and hitting them. Bond is just running after it on the ground. Yeah. Yeah, I think...

And barely running. Like, that guy does not... Yeah. He never goes more than a few steps at the time. Everything is at rehearsal pace. Yeah. This scene is when Pierce Brosnan fucked his knee up. Oh.

You know what? It shows. Yeah. And they had to shut down production for a while. They should have shut it down for good. No shit You guys, did you know the Madonna's in this movie? Yeah

Are we coming up to that? You know what? Because the sword fight was really fun. We're going to leave Cuba. Okay, I want to say something about the plane ride when they play London College. Oh, yeah, what? I looked up that song

because I didn't want to be like... Had you never heard it? No, no, but I didn't want to be like, that song's probably not about Welcome to London. Oh, right. Turns out it's not enough. No, of course not. Which is why it was even extra ridiculous

when they were using it for the Olympics. is my theory. It's like born in the USA. I feel like they played London calling so American audiences would get that he was coming to London. You're not kidding. I mean, it's that simple.

It's in place of a subtitle. Can you think of other than California Grover's a Buitary? No, another actual pop song that ended up in the movie now. That was true. I mean, other than like the Louis Armstrong, but that was written for the movie.

As they say in fencing. Yeah. What's the point? How was that not in the movie? That is in the movie. Madonna's name is very. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. So before we get back to London, I just want to talk about...

We're having our own podcast. That's okay. Don't worry. Do you mind if we spin off in the middle of this? No. I just want to talk about Michael Manson for a second. Why is he in this? Sure, just for a second.

Well, he's in this only to anchor the boss role for the next fucking jinx movies. That's the only reason he's in this. But when, when... Dame Judy Dench is speaking with him over video conference. If you look behind him, it's just like, what's the most American shit we can put behind him? A football player statue? A revolver? What?

And an American flag. And a big Mac. You were supposed to throw away the key, not to leave the door wide open. Are you implying I had a hand in his escape, Mr. Falco? Well, Bond got away real fast, didn't he? Are they Skyping? What is this? Your boy's been very busy in his train.

Rainy. You showed up in Cuba and torches a clinic. I'm put your house in order. Or we're going to do it for you. Don't really worry about it because I probably won't be in the next movie because I'm unreliable. Guys, where's he going? Where's he going? But it says British Airways.

I think they'd get that. America can't read. This martini. Lucky I asked for a shame. Before, like in my catchphrase. You remember. my catchphrase from the 19 other movies right? I do like a subversion

of the catchphrase or of any of the bits actually. A clever one or a hemfisted one? I prefer a hamfisted one. The best one is in Casino Royal and he goes do you, I want to market? He goes, do I look like I give a damn? That's awesome. Here's my problem with it's such a tiny thing to pick apart

for the movie, but I find that there are much bigger things. When we first meet Gustav Graves if you think if they're doing their job correctly you don't you mean in the opening scene you don't know what you don't know what is his deal

and you don't know that he's a bad guy I think you know yeah well you obviously but like his deal is like he's a well known millionaire yeah who's been in like the Olympics I didn't understand the sword fighting well he's a well known millionaire

who's like a Branson type one person has tried to do a profile piece on him he started existing a year ago Vanity Fair is that the case well let's interview as parents. This is no small nitpick, I don't think. I think that's a major... But my big big nitpick is...

Just so you know, in case you don't know that he's the bad guy, as soon as he enters the screen and parachutes out, the music becomes the bad guy. So, this is the transition here. Parachute opens up. Yeah.

Joe Strummer rolls over in his grave. Like, yeah. It's more ominous The Imperial March. Right. Yeah, that's pretty heavy. Anyway, that I found that to be another ridiculous moment. Thank you for holding your mic like Eddie Vedder, though.

Even though. I like Toby Stevens. I like this actor. I do like that was rough. I like there were good actors. Toby Stevens is great. Not well-s. Actually, you know, even the like Zau and the half moon, those guys are pretty decent.

I think full moon's good. Yeah, yeah. I think all the acting, Diamond Face. Maybe Brosnan and Hallie Barrier. Diamond Face is good. Ricky Ewn is Ricky Ewn in every movie. What else has he been in?

Fast and the Furies? Does he actually have Diamondton? Ruby Head. I don't know if you've seen Sapphire. I don't know if you've seen a little movie called. Empire Tun. Because he plays a bad North Korean in that movie. Have we gotten to the expression, death for breakfast?

Which is not an expression. There are a lot of not expressions in this. What is Madonna? Let's talk about Madonna briefly. Her name's Verity, which means. truth, right? I feel like she wrote the part herself. Yeah, but she's like this weird, weird conscience of the, like, you know, like she has this

history with Bond, but she's past that now. Like, she's, somehow we're supposed to believe she's this, like, well, moderated, developed character that has morals and a conscience. Like, why now and why her? When all she does is go, that's that guy who has this name. Yeah. Here's a story. It's like, maybe she was just a bit part, and she's like, I have to have.

more. Yeah. But where does my character come from? If I'm going to record the theme song of this movie, it's going to be a Madonna movie. Oh, Jesus. Do they put the, like Adele was not in Skyfall, but do they put the singers of the songs in the movies? Has anybody else done that? Stan Lee-esque cameos.

Yeah. That may as well have been Stan Lee. Well, Sheena Easton is in the opening title sequence, but she's not in the movie proper. Right. Same with Paul McCartman. Right. Have they don't? I don't think that that is happening.

I want to say that they had. Didn't Paul McCartney play the villain in Leather Eyes? Yeah, so the fencing, fencing plays a part in this movie. There's a big sword fight. I like the sword fight because it was so stupid. Let's make a rule. And let's follow it. First to draw blood from the torso.

Yeah. That's the rule. Sure. Now we're angry. We're kill each other angry? Well, you don't know the old-fashioned way? I don't know the Queensberry rules. First, the drop-up of the door.

Why do I have a note that just says either fast man or pass-man? There was good action in that sword fight. Although, I didn't think so until about halfway through, and the only thought I had before that was, well, you can't have a sword fight in a post-Prince-Bribe world where they're just sword-fighting. That's so boring. Yeah, yeah.

Like, if he's clever in James Bond, let's have some quips here. The coolest James Bondian thing, Brozden does throughout this in the entire movie is the kick when he kicks the fencing sword out of the way. I think that's amazing. And we should all watch it right now. Again, good for the fencing.

Fencing swords here. They're enjoying this. Watch this kick. And look how much... That is pretty cool. Are you sure this movie wasn't in 3D? That was digital, right? Oh, it had to be.

There's no way he kicked a sword. and things happened. That guy? Everything in this movie was digital. This guy loves paddleboarding. Tushay. In life. Yeah, so there's a...

Let's get to the Ice Palace. 20 minutes certified. I have a question for the James Bond experts. Okay. Why does James Bond and Q hate each other? Well, I have this note. They've gone from playful quarreling to just downright contempt in this movie.

Dickishness. No. It happened in Thunderball. Yeah, I know it did. But then it goes away for a while. It does. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they can work together for your eyes only and stuff like that.

Well, in license, the kill. Q comes out to help him and be his uncle. Yeah. And they're like fast friends. I assume that's left with like his wife or something. Well, we cover that in thunderable. Yeah. It's whatever is convenient to that movie.

And I think when John Cleese became Q there, just like, let's make it. Okay. John Cleese is giving the performance that he would give if he was cameoing in a Muppet. Right before we get to this. Let's just talk about. I mean, that's every performance he's given in the last 15 years. Oh, you're so. Please jaded.

I love John Cleese. And I love the Muppets. If he was here, I'd say the same thing too. Yeah, sure. He needs to hear it from a friend. Okay, so here's the... I like the idea of them handing... Them sending a key to James Bond.

Would it kill you to leave a review on iTunes, John? And just the... I imagine the conversation back at MI6 is like, do you think he'll get it if we just send him this key? Do you think he'll know to come to this bridge? Oh, yeah. Like, they just hand them an envelope with a key in it. I don't know.

This movie. I'm fine taking that for granted when I'm swallowing so much else. Also, is this the same underground tunnel? I mean underground MI6 area that they go to in Skyfall? Yeah, I don't know.

And is this the first we've seen of it? Well, I guess because they go to Skyfall as an emergency contingency, but this is just, no, this is where MI6 is now. We live in the sewers. We were everywhere. Oh, we cleared the Morlocks.

Yeah, we've become ninja turtles. We order a lot of things. pizza. They do love surfing. Yeah. Check the replay. What was that? What was that danger room nonsense?

Oh, you mean the fact they now have a holodeck? And the only reason is to set up that bit at the end. It's created. It's so stupid. I did that sequence, that like short sequence when I was watching in the theater and didn't realize that this part here, when you don't realize that they decided to fuck you and think that there's a holodeck in this world of games bond.

I thought, oh, this is really cool. killed Moneypenny? I'm all on board. And then they, he walked past it. That was the crazy, like, when it took me, I was like, he doesn't even give a shit, the Moneypenny's that's cold. Well, he has, I think that's sort of what would happen if James Bond, the character of James Bond. Not in this movie. I don't know, but like

all over the place. Yeah, he would not pass up that chance to act. He would defensively look off to the side. But, you know, here's gun firing. He's got to keep going. He's got to keep going. The the money penny dream sequence that comes at the end was the only part of this movie my wife saw while I was watching it yesterday and she didn't see

the end of it so she only saw James Bond taking Money Penny on the desk and she was like, oh, what are you watching? Does he have to do that to everyone? He kind of does. Alright, let's move on to the invisible car and get it over with. Okay? Which is what they said in the movie. Yes. It's perfection.

Acid Martin calls it the vanquish, we call it the vanish. I understand this, this like this theory that you could build something in the future that has cameras that emit light on the other side, but you can't have that on tires spinning from every angle. It's a little fake. Why am I even even, yeah, parsing this out? But practically, like, not only that, but like, it's a car.

It would not look like it looks, first of all. The battery, yeah. But there's no. But also, cars, this isn't an electric car. This makes noise and has exhaust. Sure. And also, when it finally comes into use, it does. doesn't need to be invisible.

No. Except for that one time. But it didn't need to be. You could have just reversed it. You couldn't have been able to stop. You're absolutely right. But like for a spy, some sort of

coat and hat situation. A cloak, if you will. Well, I will not. When will you? Give me half an hour. Did you... We'll be right back. I'm talking to probably three people

who don't ever watch top gear. Do you guys ever watch top gear? I watch bottom gear. Top gear, they have a great special on the bond cars. Oh. Is this car on it? And they do...

It's not great. They do this. They build a car and they put video screens on either side with cameras pointing out and then they drive it down the street. And it looks silly. Oh, I gotta see this.

It looks almost like, oh yeah, I could see that. Didn't they use that in a car ad also? Didn't I see that somewhere? I don't know. It relies on knowing what angle the viewer is looking at it. And so if you're looking at it It's even slightly a diagonal.

It doesn't have a way to perceive that you're looking at it. And why doesn't it pick up, if it's cameras, why aren't there people? The people walking around it? Yeah, exactly. Oh, it's so stupid. Well, he does, he does walk around it and his legs get. The ultimate in British engineering. Yeah, but that's...

Oh, no, we have to watch this again. Right. You must be... There's that one thing. As I learned from my predecessor Bond, I never joke about my work. Look at the playhead. It's not even... Half the way through the movie.

He got totally burned. We got to speed this up. So bad. Yeah, to what? When will you ever, ever need it? I was genuinely excited because it was the first time that Pierce Brosden got to drive an Aston Martin in the movie. It's a nice car.

He's the... Well, I guess Roger Moore's the only bond to never have driven an Aston Martin. Really? Yeah. He got the Lotus. Do you think he'll get to? Eventually.

When he plays the 14th Doctor. I was going to say, when all the bonds get together and then new Doctor Who? Drive each other's cars and tarduses. Okay, so... Are we at the Ice Palace yet? All right, we're going to the Ice Palace, everybody. Here we are.

Do some things happen in between that? We find out that Miranda Frost is working for MI6. They say death for breakfast. Death for breakfast is said. I have Mr. Kill in my notes. What the hell does that mean? That's what they called Miranda Frost. Oh, that's what the Samoan guy's name is.

Mr. Kill. You got to be kidding. Is the Somoian guy the laser victim? Yeah, laser mouth. Laser fight, right? I like, by the way, that there is a setting on their laser for bat-shit crazy laser time. Yeah, yeah, why would you? Why the fuck would that be there?

It's going everywhere. Okay, so... Zow and Graves. Ice Palace, okay, the Aston Martin's flown in there, obviously. I'm sure. Fly an invisible jet. So why can't you buy that he could have his Aston Martin flown from the Bahamas to a storage space in England, man? But he doesn't, because one is left-hand drive and the other is right-hand drive.

Yeah, that's what happens when you fly something, They are two different ass in Martin's. Cargo gets jumbled. At Gourley. Once you pass the equator, it goes a different way. Exactly. Did you guys feel that Zau and Graves had a real homoerotic thing

when he wakes the one guy up from the DNA thing? They shared a look. Yeah. Like, didn't he touch his face or something? But I kind of liked it. Like, at least I felt like, oh, you're going to at least a second level of some kind, even if it's contrived.

And they had a third guy, right? With the mophead, the emo Philips. Oh, yeah. What did I write about? Oh, the German tech guy, very engineer. Vlad, who says, hey, boss like chico from the Marx brothers. Hey, pretty good, hey boss. Pretty good to have a terrible chico.

And in the cutscene... A boss is a good Vlad, though. In the cutscene, he plays a lot of piano. He shoots the keys. You're going to want to catch the spy. Peanuts for you? I got speed ramp and written here. And Icarus creates a second son.

Do you know what that would do to the earth? By the way, terrible name for a thing dealing with the sun. From a branding perspective, Icarus is a terrible name, and that was a terrible presentation. Hi, I'm the Bill Gates of this movie. I'm going to tell you the least about Icarus. Oh, my God. The best is when he finishes his speech, he goes, Now let us brighten the night with our inner radiance.

Crickets from the crowd. No one reacts. Like, that's supposed to be a big finishing line. All the crowd stuff was really strange because, like, it was. When Bond is standing in the crowd, he's sort of standing in front of them. Yeah. And they're all, like, washed out. Yeah.

Like, they may as well have been cardboard cut out. And for a guy who is a secret Korean son of a general, he has great use of English idiom. Yeah, he really committed to that. I mean, he really committed to that. I mean, he really committed to that. Well, do you know what's funny is, like, I realized I might have paid a little more attention than you guys. But when Zao... That's impossible, man.

When Zao is in the Cuban place getting his... his DNA redone the which why he is listening to what English people and what his biography is so they must be

playing it over and over you know that exists somewhere I know that's what they spend all their time right yeah the original name for Icarus by the way was hubris who's the hubris project

Jinx is there it was Edsel before that the Edsel uh Jinks is there uh she's her cover is writing for space and science magazine

Space Monthlies whatever the fuck it is and then Miranda Frost goes Space Lifestyle so he must be explaining his Big Bang theory and then Ali Barry says

yeah I think I got the thrust of it Oh she sells that line Like she may as well thrust her hips when she says thrust Yeah

Yeah it's the I cannot She Her Oscar should be taken away Someone should rewatch this movie And then go

Oh Well, not least because of that lady from Catwoman. Oh, that's what I knew she looked familiar. Have I ever seen her in a movie in which I've liked her? Yes. What? Swordfish. Her tits.

Incorrect. I haven't seen Monsters Ball, but that's what she won the Academy Award for. Nor have I. And I probably wouldn't like it. X-Men? Nope. Didn't like her. Catwoman.

No. Never saw it. No, it's pretty rough. Here they are, guys. I'm saying I was here with a big deal. Here they are in satellite. also an ice palace. And this is the big reveal that this is the same character.

This is the moment. Which raises more questions than I answer. This is the moment when Zao gets out of that Land Rover. What a good-looking Randrover. Thank you, Ford. He encounters graves. This is where we find out the gene therapy thing had already been done to half-mil. So his plan was to accidentally die in a hovercraft accident.

To be re-Dien-Aid. I think he was just making the best of a bad situation. He's an opportunist. Is it a real lemonade out of lemons, gentlemen? He's an improviser bad guy. Improvisor Megalomaniard. He knows what's going to happen. All right.

That's an answer. Yes, and give me a new face. Now comes some spy. Make it white, please. Now comes some spy stuff. It's the only DNA. In my notes, it goes from a big board to kite surfing CG. Jesus, who am I anymore?

Is my note. Was that about yourself? Yes. Like, what it, it made me worry. about my own life. Like, if this is possible in this world, this movie has come to this. How will I ever know when I've sunk that? You're absolutely correct. This movie,

this, it really, like, if you thought it was shitty, the first hour, the second hour, it really hits you over the head with how shitty this movie. Time to draw the line. Yeah. Is a thing that he says. Yep, well, as if it is an expression. Time to draw the 38th parallel line. And he says global warming is a terrible thing. Yes. As he sets shit on fire.

Yeah. But you know what? He's right. Yeah. Yeah, but that was. It's a trouble time. Yeah, he does, he's doing his podcast. He parasurfs. Do you disagree?

What is that? Wind surfing? Parasurfing. It's a huge mistake. A lot of surfing in this movie, Katie. You missed out. You really did. Surfing, hang gliding parachutes.

They love this. This is the Nadir of the James Bond series. This is the lowest point of anything in these 23 movies is when he kitesurf CGs from an Icelandic Icarus Sun title wave. Yeah. And he still looks like he's not doing it. Like, he doesn't know how to act in front of a green screen. I think that maybe he's alert.

Like he has some sort of hyper sense where like green screens stink to him. And he's just like he's barely tolerating. It smells like skunks. I defunks. I define you to come up with a worst James Bond moment than this. I don't think there is one. Like pound for pound. Uh, pigeon double take.

I'll take it. I'll take it. Because at least it's relatively harmless. I'll say that again. And it's over pretty quickly. Pigeon double take it. It's in a Moore movie. I'll take it.

I would take a whole movie of pigeon double takes. Of CG title of Pigeon double takes. I want to edit the Pigeon double take to that CG's thing. That would justify it at least. I have in my notes that at this point, like, the villain Graves, right? Yeah. Tells Bond, I base this character that I'm being on you. Like, this is all the awful that you are.

This is where you are. Yeah, this is you. They didn't know each other. They met. Everybody knows James Bond, though. No, but he had to scan him with a phone to find out who it was. Like, they don't have a history. They have, they hung out for a minute and a half before they killed each other to the best of their knowledge.

They killed each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you, he knows the James Bond thing. He hasn't seen that many James Bond movies, but he knows what the trappings of James Bond are. That's fair. That's what he modeled his character on. It just made no sense. You are my nemesis because of the minute and the half.

And the grudgy has against Bond for killing him doesn't apply because he didn't die. Right. Yeah. You're absolutely correct. I know what you did last summer. It actually gave him a great opportunity to do something he clearly wanted to do. He became a millionaire. He helped him.

He's a benefactor. Can we talk? I'm curious about how you guys feel about not just not the title way of. necessarily, but any of the action sequences in this movie, and did they work for you? The only thing that... Were any successful?

The car chase had some cool car commercial looking cinematography, so whatever that's worth, but... I think the car chase was like... It was still hard to follow them. Yeah, I just don't care. It was so ridiculous. I have a good action scene without some kind of story investment, and there's...

And moving the story to the next. Yeah, it's... Well, the thing, too, is there's no... I don't know that there are any real stakes in that car chase, because you're not... No, Hallie Berry's not going to die going into it. You wish she would. You wish she would, absolutely.

Come on. That is a human being character. If they would have given her some dimension, I wouldn't have said that. I don't want Hallie Barry the actress to die, but I don't want jinx. But what's interesting, though, is that, is whatever, who, I don't understand who built the Jaguar for them. For Zal. I guess it was, Vlad, right? He built the Jaguar.

He likes the tinker. Kua's moonlighting. Bear with me here. Some of you guys may remember this cartoon from the 80s called Mask. Yes, of course. This movie becomes an episode of Mask, where each car has something it can do, and they battle each other kind of with no consequences in a barren area. But here's the interesting part.

On a set. Yeah. It could not even. Not even interesting, but each of them has the same gadget, but a one-up of the other one. Yeah. So, for instance, you know. It's a vaudeville action sequence. James Bond.

Anything you could do. The Asin Martin's grill opens. There are six missiles. The Jaguar grill is open. It's 12 missiles. And then I have... And a pie. I'm going to shoot mortars.

Well, guess what? I have target-seeking shotguns. It's just a whole thing. Also, James Bond, if you have those spikes for traction, they're going to help you in the ice when you're racing against the jaguar. Listen, we grew up in Massachusetts. We know what it's like. We know what it's like to drive on ice. I have tried.

To get my Mitsubishi up an ice driveway. And I couldn't do it and I had to drive in the street. There's no way that car is going on that ice ramp. It's absolutely insane. And there's been times where I've had snow chains like on cars just because you need the extra grip. So this whole driving across the ice situation makes no sense to me. And if he's got those fucking spikes in his tires, he should use them. Yeah.

He should use them throughout this race. Yeah. They use them for your eyes only. The thing I do like is when his, when the Astin Martin gets flipped over, he opens the roof. It turns out of the ejectorses. Brings his own damn neck. And the two, and this, I'm going to guess, because of all the shit in it, the four and a half tonne Aston Martin flips back over, no problem. Oh, no, he would have broken his neck.

I have another, and this is the sort of logic question I hate, but this movie just begs it. Like, if you are Halliberry and you're trapped in a room of ice, you're not trapped in a room of ice. Yeah. You're not trapped in a room. Just break out the hair dryer and you're free. Like put your hand against the wall for a little while. But they did say, as the most common expression, we have. They implemented the expression, time to give the American her bath.

Sure. You know how you're always saying time to give someone their bath. That's more of a British expression. And so what? They say it a lot. Let's do name the one-liner that they didn't do. So when Zau gets killed by a falling ice chandelier and there is a, river of blood that shoots up

like a water feature. It's like a jaws. Yes. What is your one liner there? Like, he's seen the light. Some listener, I thank you, whoever was, someone had the idea of better one-liners than they do in the movie.

Forgive me if I've forgotten your name. I love that. All credit to you. His name's Ben. Oh. He turned the tables on some crushed ice. We're running out of time, so we should rush ahead.

Well, the intro is not being recorded. we have the studio for as long as we need. I know Ben has to. I don't know. Time to hang around and talk about James Bond. By one,

you got to watch your footballs. Katie and I got to get out of here. By 1230. Harder to hear at noon, right? Not anymore. Thanks for listening to our business. We haven't talked about

the James Bond girl except to say she wasn't in spaced. Rosamund Pike. I think she's the best thing in this movie. She totally is. She's not a thing, man. She's a part.

person. She's a real she's a construct. She is a robot. She is in some ways the most developed character in this movie. Yeah. There is motivation. He just held his hands. Yeah, she is good at acting.

There's motivation for her character. Her motivation was that she really wanted to win the Olympics. That's her motivation. Oh, and that's how she knows the guy, right? Well, they were on the fencing team together at Harvard. Except for that he was a Korean guy at the time. Yeah, what? He was a general. Correct. She knows that, though.

She knows that. I don't think they'll have. She knows that. Listeners at Harvard. Listeners right in. Not in 1991 when he would have been there. It was a different time. Right. I mean, you're from Boston.

Yeah, yeah, we know. No Koreans. Except in the math department. Am I right? Whoa. Wow. Sorry, Matt. What's the matter?

I inadvertently said something. You unpurposed it. Are you guys being serious, right? Yeah. So the fact that she would have to rely on, that M would have to rely on Michael Madsen's character to inform her that. Yeah, put you a house in order. I'll come over and clean it up.

You got any old Milwaukee over that because I'm coming over. You ever see the time I took an ear off? I do it to you. But like, why wouldn't, why wouldn't M.I. 6 know that she was on the fencing team with Colonel Moon? I don't know, Matt, and I just want to just give you a real hug down. It just doesn't make any sense. I have hit this point talking about this movie that I have when I watch this movie where I just give it to me, just shoot me in the head. Matt, you might like this.

One time, I sold Michael Madsen books. I used to work at Book Soup. Okay. He could not have been nicer. I'll bet. Oh, well, that's nice. He got any Tom Clancy. He seems sober.

What's that born up to you? We walked around book soup. Talking about books. Oh, that's great. You know, as a fan of the classics. You got to eat, love, pray. I want to get into it. I want to buy other places you'll go from my nephew who graduated from high school.

You got where the sidewalk begins. I love a prequel. That's a true thing about Michael Manson. Loves a prequel. Full moon is killed by his son on the airplane, and it slows to slow motion, and they start playing that horribly cliche, like, music. That is basically Middle Eastern.

I know there's Korean versions of it. And that's supposed to be... Don't write in. Bostonians. If you want to go see this Jaguar, by the way, you can head to the Peterson Auto Museum and it is sitting next to the Batmobile. Before...

Is it the one in Seamy Valley? No, it's the one on Fairfax and Wilshire. Before he kills his father. He says to his father... To marry his mother. I didn't follow this movie. It's time to watch the rising of the sun. And that one does work.

Yeah. That one works on all the levels. It was intended to do. Credit is due. I don't love a pun. Ben Acker loves a pun. If you, listeners, if you have puns, tweet him at B.N. Acker.

If you do that, I will block you. Send all of your puns. I'll send him. Do it. Send him to me and I'll send him. He will unfollow if you pun it. If you put it too hard. Pun it at me, he can't block me.

No phase. No. It's time to play. Spot. Michael. G. Wilson The producer

is in every Bond movie Really? I watched this movie like two weeks ago so I don't even remember where he is in this movie but I think he's one of the voices on Oh he's one of the like

MI6 people in that Am I right about that man? In the bunker? Yeah I think he's in the bunker Yeah okay I think he's in the bunker That's what you think

But what he actually did was get DNA therapy But I'd make himself North Korean He actually was Zao He played Ricky Yun He was, uh... Why do you need DNA therapy?

He was Jerry Bruckheimer with DNA. Like, what is it for? Mother issues? To change your looks completely. To change your whole... Down to the DNA? Yeah, because you can now go from brown eyes to blue. You can't get diamonds out of your face with it.

Diamond phase. I don't... I'm depressed. I don't get why they're not like, okay, so what are they... What? Like, if you have, if you've developed the technology to, like, heal burn victims, or whatever. Oh, use it to hide

supposedly dead North Korean dictators would be dictators. Supposedly. I don't get it, you guys. Allegedly. I don't get this movie. Was part of Suns slash Graves thing

or Moon's slash Graves thing to like prove himself to his dad? I think it was all about that at the root of it. I think of the root of all of these movies it's daddy issues. At the root of all graveses' movies?

All Gustav Grace movies Staddy issues Oh he had a vanity Production Triple X There's a long came of spider There's a definite wave function that goes along the Bond movies

And it's you only live twice To Moonraker To die another day And it's where Bond goes too far And has to pendulum swing back The other way And you all Too far in what way

Well it goes too fantastic So from you only live twice You get On a Magracy's Secret Service And from Moonraker You get four your eyes only from Die Another Day, you get Casino Royale and they always swing back the other way. And that's so for every die another day, you get a

casino or Royale. So in a way, you have to thank this movie. It's been 40 years? They've been doing 50 years? At this point. 50 now. And they're still swinging too far. Yeah. And then doing what like... You'd think they'd learn. Yeah. Have they watched any of these movies? But here's the other, here's the interesting part about that

too up till very, very recently. But whenever they, when whenever the pendulum would swing to the crazy, that was the highest grossing movie. Sure. Except for Diana. Well, because it's, Diner of the Day was the highest grossing movie Not adjusted for inflation

$467 million it made Until the first Until the rebroad Yeah So that made 4167 Moonraker made a shit ton of money Yeah Well but it makes sense

I mean it's when they've been doing them long enough But like they're given like People are invested But people will still go see A shitty James Bond movie Well nobody goes to it Expecting it to be shitty Yeah

The Allie and Georgia do Yeah They're at the US command bunker in the demilitarized zone in South Korea. That's where we see Michael G. Wilson. So there's a lot of, also, did you guys, when she said NSA, were you like, ooh?

Like, that's who's defending us? Yeah, it's like, oh, no. Oh, before that, can we talk about how, ejecting that, like, pushing the, or pulling the thing so that the guy's parachute takes them out of the plant? Yeah. That was awesome. Like, that was a moment where, like, if that had been in any other movie, if Bruce Willis did that, that would be a cool moment.

Well, it would have been a moment, too. Like it wasn't built as a moment. Didn't they give it a pun? Why this director is pretty terrible. Yeah. What does Brazen say when he gets that guy? Shoot you later. You're dead.

Have a nice go through the engines. You totally fall. Have you seen Redis of the Lost Ark? There's something on the wing. He does. Now. There's a man in the wing of this play. Hey, I'll tell you exactly what he says.

Thank God. But before that he said looks like your friends have bailed. Which... Hey, Bonn't. Like, works as a, this is the thing they did, but not as the thing that James Bond would say. Oh, you can't kill my dreams. Oh, that's not an expression. Yeah.

But my dreams can kill you. Right? No, twist the roo. Time to face destiny. He has been destroyed. That's cool. It's shot so poorly, though. Yeah.

But, like, it's something, like, Mal Reynolds would do. Like, that's a real firefly, like, suburb. version of the thing. Which he doesn't. No. Oh, and then he, yeah, he electrutes himself. Time to face gravity is just

you know that common expression. Yeah. Time for physics to act as they always do. Good morning. Time to face gravity. Jesus. Have a good death for breakfast. So seriously, I'll see you at the arc light at seven. We're going to face gravity. This is going to be dated in three days.

Also, So, Holly Berry says in reference to stabbing to death, the... Roseman Pike. I think I broke her heart. Yes. Doesn't work. No. I think I stabbed her heart would have worked.

Right? With a sword and a book. Yeah. For some reason. Give her the old book sword. It's a good movie, is what we're saying. But doesn't Brasden get a little sad about Miranda? He should.

He does. He emotes a little too much. He does get a little bit sad. back to face Daniel Craig. Oh my God. So then they drop the helicopter out the back. Oh, and this is the thing.

This is like, again, if you're, you writers out there. Character stuff, shmerker stuff. People trying to push a button and whether the button works or not to save their lives. Terrible. Well, and you guys talked about this a little bit

in Casino Royale where like it's not skill that wins him the day. Yeah. It's luck. Yeah. And it works there because you're a long. for the ride, there's an emotional journey. Which part of that in the end?

Right? It's because of The poker. Yeah. The poker scene. It's just luck. Right. Oh, yes. Sorry, yeah. Yeah. But because you're... Head in the game, man. It's an emotional payoff. Yeah. Right. It's an emotional payoff. But here, it's will the button work? Who cares?

Also, this movie ended at the Ice Palace. Like, all this plain stuff. I disagree. This movie ended in the hologram. In the hologram. Well, no. technically yes it ended there no no I'm talking about the first one I'll tell you exactly what happened is when the gun barrel

sequence starts and the bullet goes in the gun you're being shot and you've gone to hell it's all a fever dream and you just you're in lost purgatory this is that episode of breaking bad this is the finale did we die yeah yeah so then they end up which we can all agree that's what the finale of Breaking Bad was right yeah whatever Norm McDonald's is

they end up in a perfect little Korean hut with some cars stuck up like monolith Stonehenge. Someone's so poor being near a car so fancy and the car is subverted.

Like this is crazy. They've got a pretty nice little home. And then they're putting diamonds in the belly. The millionaires that make this movie think that's hilarious. Diamonds in the belly was the original title. Diamonds in the belly. She's giving them a diamond H.J. Yeah.

And the off screen, the off screen leave it in. Oh, yeah. It's so. Off screen, leave it in. On screen, take it out. That was this crass and creepy. Yeah, because this movie hasn't earned the right

to do that kind of... Like Casino Royale, the little pinky thing. Here it is. There it is. They've landed the helicopter next to a hut. Frank on. As one does. Oh, David Arnold, doing some good work here, I think. Some nice stuff. Not his best, but...

The score is fine. Oh, you only live twice. Yeah. Oh. I love that he I love that he left it out I'm not finished with it yet Like you say

Finish with it Perfect fit Uh huh Leave it Don't move it It's gonna come out sooner or later No leave it in Please

A few more minutes Also I like how she's Just fucked him in a bathing suit You really have to get these back That's how good he is We have to get all my dicks back And it's you only live twice music solely because we're in an Asian country

Not even Japan Oh that's the I'm not quite sure. But what you have to understand about... How could you... I think the... To succinctly describe this movie musically. The transition from this

to what they play over the closing credits. I think we'll sum it up to the other day. No. No. No? No, it's the... It's David Arnold having fun with techno music.

Okay. Oh, it's the Dirty Vegas Rebiz. This is the credits of a James Bondo. Did Ace of bass do this? Jesus. I have a... Matt, before you play us out, will you play that clip that then had you queue up?

Yes, of course. And then after that, I have something I want to play. Yeah, of course. It's an audio book of war and peace. This is... What is the movie? This is of a... Pierce Brosnan's fine as the acting.

What is the name of the movie? No one knows. No, it's there. It doesn't say. He didn't get mad. He got even, is what this says. It begins with a B. It's his name. I'll tell you in a second here.

Oh, yeah. I don't remember. For anyone who loves James Bond and is listening to this podcast, go listen to the Adam and Joe show. It has nothing to do with James Bond. Listen to all of them. Mm-hmm. Full stop.

I can't, yeah, I can't figure it out. Well, here, let's just play the clip. This is Brazen's finest acting moment. What goes on in this town is none of your business. As long as I'm living here it is. Then maybe you shouldn't be left me here! Now, can we play the technical remix of that? Of course we can.

Which I think David Arnold did. Uh, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Where is it? Where's it? I love it. I love it so much. Dance remix. Yeah.

What goes on in this town is none of your business. None of your business. None of your business. As long as I'm living here. As long as I'm living here. Time to face gravity. As long as I'm living here. Burmary.

Bramary. Then Mary. Then Mary. Then Mary. Then maybe. Then maybe. Then maybe. As long as I'm living here it is.

Then maybe you shouldn't be living here. This is amazing. I assume between the time that we played the first clip and the second clip. He repeated the first clip again and again, made it a catchphrase with all your friends. This is really fantastic. There was, I think it actually uses this,

but there was on Adam and Joe when they were obsessed with this clip that someone sent them a version where it never ended, and he just kept yelling here. Because the pitch never changes. It's so fantastic. Oh, gosh. Well, I said that I would continue. So that's my favorite James Bond theme.

I have to return this DVD to Matt. I just said I would continue this segment which I plan to do where we would play alternate Bond title song. So die another day as far as I know doesn't have them, but one that we haven't played that we've already covered the movie is Quantum of Solis.

Oh, God damn it, don't write it. Are you Canadian? No, I'm Southern California. You're thinking of becoming? This is called No Good About Goodbye, and you hear this theme throughout the movie, which I love when the theme song has themes throughout the movie.

Who did the actual? Jack White and Alicia Keys. So this is Shirley Bassie. David Arnold got Shirley Bassie to sing this song. Nice. Good get. Good get. Yeah, yeah, very good get.

Do they know each other from like the Bond movies or something? Well, yeah, something like that. They went to Harvard together. Here we go. She was Korean. They were on the fencing team. Yeah, she was Korean at the time. Uh, oh.

And we'll let this play us out. Ben's, you guys have been fantastic. Thanks, you guys too. Thank you for having us. We really are fans of the show. Would you guys like to plug anything? Yes, please. The Thrilling Adventure Hour.

Yes. Heard of it. In Los Angeles, we are monthly, and we still have tickets available for our December late show at Largo at the Coronet. Go to Largo's website. Or go to our website,

Thrillingadventure Hour.com. More details about all of the things we're doing. We have a lot of fun stuff planned for the early half of next year. And I will be on the next throw-in show, right? Yeah, yeah, Matt's going to join us for the next show. It's been November.

As will Mark McConville, your cohort in Supergo. Forget it. Forget it. Well, I guess you're not doing. And are you ready to plug your, yours and Matt McCombole? I'm not. I'll plug the Nerdist Writers' panel, which is here on the Nerdist Network.

If there are movies or TV shows that you like, I guarantee we've had someone from those TV shows. Frazier? We've had Frazier writers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, of course. We've had every good. It's a lot of fun.

Thank you. I appreciate it. And Amanda and Maria have been on this as well. So if you enjoyed them on here, listen to them. They killed me on that, and I couldn't wait to listen to them on your show. And I was saying to the Mats beforehand, I wish they would have Maria on every month to be passionate about whatever James Bond movie they're talking about. Yes, and Mark McConville and I will be starting a podcast soon about. Jeremy Carter.

Which is inspired by James Bonding. We got to talking on Twitter about Elvis Costello albums. And we were like, oh, we should do a James Bonding style. Call it Elvis Costello. From both ends. Elvis Podstello is what Mark wants to call. Elvis Podstello. Jeremy and I are going to start one that is reviewing this podcast, that podcast.

So it should be pretty incoherent. Yeah. Well, guys, thank you. And thank you for taking on the burden of Die Another Day. We are in the shit right now. What's next? Next is You Only Live Twice, which I like Matt does not. Which one is that?

John Connery. No, that is the volcano layer for Blochfeld in Japan. What was the unofficial Sean Connoff? Never seen, never. I like that one. And as of now, our guests lined up for You Only Live Twice is the wonderful Greg Proops. So he has a lot, he's a wealth of film knowledge. We should have a good episode.

Should be interesting. and then World's not enough Yeesh No actually that may be my favorite Brosman But I mean still Any brazen

He only did four Is that right? God willing I heard he's going to do some more Jesus He's been making of himself He's just in the backyard No

Then maybe you shouldn't This is there If you want to see the on-screen reuniting of Miranda Frost and James Bond watch the World's End. Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah.

Thank you. He was the best James Bond in that. He was. He was the... Yeah, just every... No, Dalton is in a hot fuss. But Sean of the Dead doesn't have a bond actor. He's named after it.

Right. Yeah, Sean Connery of the Dead. That's right, the full title. The Foreign Title. We got to the bottom of it. Yeah. Guys, thank you. James Bonding will return

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