James Bonding - Do You Expect Me To Talk?

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

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Now entering nerdist.com. Okay. This is sort of like, this should be episode, zero. Right. Right. Okay. Sounds good. This is, this is, uh, this is the, this is the, the reboot.

Are we already rolling? Yeah. I haven't even put on my podcast voice. Do you have, you do have a, oh my God. Do I ever? Uh, trying to turn. There I am. Okay.

Who's gonna, who's, who's the leader on this? Who's taking the lead? I think we're co. Yeah, we are. You are co. It's Matt and Matt. Well, when you are struggling, I will pick up the slack. And when I'm struggling, you've got my back. This is just the kind of teamwork that doesn't occur on the nerdist.

Do you know what this is? It's James Bonding. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the episode zero of James Bonding. Think of this as our CBS Casino Royale. Yes. We'll likely want to forget it one day. With Jimmy Bond. Yeah.

So for this episode, it's a lot of it. called Jimmy Bonding. A career crashed Peter Lorry. Yeah, Jimmy Bonding. Jimmy Bonding with Matt and Matt. So you're listening to the process of us figuring out what this podcast is going to be. Yeah, here's what we decided to do, folks at home. We decided to do a Jane's Bondi podcast.

But as far as how this is going to go, we've met previously and talked about like, oh, I want to do this, want to do this. And there's some other stuff that we were talking about where I was like, maybe we should ask the audience kind of thing. So what we're going to do right now is we're going to sort of go through what this podcast is going to be. You're going to figure that out along with us. And we are very, very open to suggestions because this is a very new podcast. So what you're seeing today, the first day this is available, is you're going to see episode zero. And you're going to see episode one with Paul F. Tompkins discussing Dr. No. And I have to say I'm glad we've got Paul for this episode because I know you're a fan of Dr. No, but I watched it last night.

And it just, there's not a ton to talk about, I feel. Are you kidding? I do. Oh, wait till you see my notes. Oh, my God. Which I wrote, at the very top of it, I wrote Dr. Notes. We may, I mean, why aren't we saving this for that episode? We'll get into that in a little bit.

So, yeah, so we, Matt and I met actually on a television segment about James Bond. That's right. For attack of the show, we were brought in as the panel experts. Well, you already worked for the show. Yeah. Yeah. We were the, let's talk. We need to see people who can talk about James Bond at length. Our mutual friend and a writer for the attack of the show, Josh Floum.

Thank you, Josh. Thank you, Josh. Suggested, hey, Matt Goreley's really into James Bond as well, and he's super funny. And then I was like, he is super funny. I did not know he was really into James Bond. Oh, man. And then this is, this is. the beginning of our bonding.

Yeah. This is the beginning of the James Bonding. And then we went on a date. We literally went on a skyfall date. Yeah, we sure did on a rainy night in December. Remember when we came out, we went to the IMAX version and we came out and it's rain and men. It was the weather girls.

The weather girls had a, you've never known that they had a second song. I had no idea. And it's playing on the citywalk Jumbotron. And we just stood in the rain watching it. Yeah, it's a highly recommended YouTube watch. if you can find it. It's, I don't even know what it's called. It's raining Christmas.

I don't, I feel like it might not be that. I feel like it was something like it's raining snow or it's raining presents. Yeah, so it's the weather girls. It's raining men, the Paul Schaefer classic. Yeah. It is the Christmas version of that. It's got a very funny music video and I highly recommend it. But imagine it like supersize it on your screen, step back.

Imagine it drizzling on you. It's a nice winter's Eve. Think of it as a John Cusack movie. Yeah. You know, we're outside in the rain. We're just standing in the rain, letting God just wash over us as we watch the weather girls. Yeah, we'd just come out of Skyfall. After we had seen.

It was a great first date. Yeah, in IMAX. I hope everyone listening got to see Skyfall in IMAX because it really didn't change it that much. Yeah, no, I don't even know that I noticed. Yeah, I didn't either. But it was good to see, you know, a 40-story tall. That might be way over the size that the IMAX screen actually is. It's not 40 stories.

Are you sure? It's 30. I feel like we go in there. Topps. Yeah, but the Daniel Craig. Anyway, it was lovely. So that our love of James Bond continued through brief trists over text message, you know. Like when Skyfall came out on Blu-ray, I got that archive book for Christmas.

Yep, yep. I also got the archive book for myself for Christmas. And, you know, every time a little James Bond, something would happen in the ethos, Matt and I were sure to connect on it. Because you don't... You don't find it. You don't got a lot of that.

Yeah. You know, it gets better, I hope. Yeah. You don't... I can only talk to my girlfriend so much about it. Exactly. And it's not a fault on her. Right.

I understand. Yeah. And I don't want to bother people with this. Right. I don't... People don't need to know that I'm also nerdy about this 19th thing. Yeah. Like, I have enough.

This is enough. This is my main thing. Yeah. This is your main? This is it for you. Well, I mean, I probably have some minor nerd things. So you major in James Bond and you minor in? I don't know.

Maybe I don't. There must be something. Well, you're an improv nerd. Let's say that. Let's just get out there with that. I mean, just if you enjoy doing it, I don't call myself like that. You enjoy doing it. You understand the history of it.

Sure. Right? You appreciate when people do it well. But I don't seek out more of it all the time. I don't go to shows. That's fair. You know what I mean? I like doing it, but I don't know that the world, I don't live and breed the world.

Does anyone seek out improv? Or does it just happen at them? I think some people do. I don't know. That's a good point. I mean, improv's something, as we know from the internet. You can do everywhere. I know what I'm a nerd for.

What? Inside Nature's Giants on PBS where they dissect giraffes and whales. And I just cannot get enough. I have never heard of it. It sounds like the second best thing in the world after James Bond. You're exactly right. Oh, my God. I just gave you a 20th thing.

We have a new show. Yeah, it's amazing. It's unbelievable. It's called Dissecting Dissections with Matt and Matt. Premiers on the Nerdist Network. Right after this. It's a pretty good name. Not going to lie.

Yeah. Yeah, so what sort of happened was Matt on, I think maybe a Twitter suggestion that said we should do a podcast about it. Me? I feel like... Did I? No, I don't think it was you. I just think it was somebody else saw us talking back and forth.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. And that's sort of how we arrived at the conclusion to do it. Yeah. Although I think I texted you once. Yeah, I texted you like, we need to do a podcast. And it might have been because someone said it. Or I just felt like I needed a third podcast.

You were the man in this relationship. Yeah. Traditionally. I was like, get over here. I sat by my phone. But I was a modern man because I did not care which of us. was the breadwinner. Oh, that's nice.

That's nice to know. So, yeah, I had the idea over, I think it might have been over Christmas, right? I don't know. Yeah. It doesn't matter. It took a while for us to actually finally say, let's just do it. And I don't know what clicked in my brain where I said, let's just do it. I can tell you it's when you sent the next text message with that name.

And I thought, well, now I see it. James Bonding? Yeah, now I can envision it. We were named by Doug Benson. That's a fun little trivia fact for everybody. That's off to him. Doug is very good at naming things. So here we are.

It's called James Bonding with Matt and Matt. And I think it's just a mutual sort of love of James Bond. And I think it's fair to discuss in this episode Zero, sort of how we both came to find James Bond to be maybe the paternal role model we never had growing up. I don't know. The man's man. Yeah. I also want to say that the thing I think that the reason I love James Bond so much is that I can be so into it and all the minutia and everything, but at the same time, realize that so much of it is so bad and enjoy it on so many levels.

That is very true. I just love being able to put in any given James Bond movie and it's really good or it's really bad. I think all of them have good moments. Yeah, yeah, sure. And I also would, I would argue that all of them have laughably bad moments. Except for maybe Casino Royale. Yeah, I agree. I'm trying to think about that right now.

Yeah, I know. Think about that at home. So our origins with James Bond, huh? Yeah, so let's see. Matt's a little bit older than I am, almost exactly 10 years older than I. Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday, right? Happy birthday, Monday.

Oh. Party on Sunday. Happy birthday. This probably won't be out by the time my birthday is. So by the time you listen to this, I'll be 30. Matt will be 40. Katie will be 12. Yeah. This is a strange room.

It's a strange room. So, yeah, I know you're already 40, but by the time I listen to it, that will still be true. I will still already be 40. Yeah, there you go. All right. There you go. Well, at some point, we're going to have to talk about my 40th birthday party. Do you know about this?

I was invited to your 40th birthday party, and I believe I was out of town and could not go to your 40th birthday party. Boy, you of all people missed the best party in the worst. in the world. What was your, what was your, my girlfriend, threw me a surprise 40th birthday. I woke up and she said, go into the office,

I go in, and there's a tux hanging. Oh, my God. And a car that just says, a car will pick you up at 7.45 p.m. And a little, uh, bottle of scotch.

And, uh, this tux was like this Vira wang tux that fit me like a glove. She, I don't know, she sides it off one of my suits or something. Sure. Yeah.

I show up to this space she had rented. I mean, this is how nerdy it gets that my girlfriend knew that I would love this kind of thing. This is already amazing sounding. Yeah, she had put together a huge surprise James Bond birthday party where all my friends and family came dressed as James Bond characters or just cocktail attire. Sure. If you didn't want to nerd out, you didn't have to. And it wasn't like it was only James Bond music playing, but there was a bartender serving Vesper Martini's. There you go.

And so she was dressed as Jill Master. from Goldfinger in a gold body suit painted gold. Oh, my God. Mark McConville, whose bald shows up with a gray neighbor jacket and a white cat. Amanda, my girlfriend's sister was Mr. Kidd, but the cruise ship with, she made the the bomb, Le Bomb Surprise. This is how nerdy this is going to get. It's a kid from Diamonds are Forever.

There was a Jaws. There was, oh, there was a, Rob Schraub and Kate Freund were Mr. Winton and Mr. Kid. They came in the suits. Dan Harmon was like a kind of like Largo with an eye patch. Yeah, there were a few money pennies. Oh my goodness.

We'll talk about this with Paget Brewster who's going to be a guest down the road, but she was stopped. Maybe we should talk about this with Paul as well. She was going to go as May Day in Blackface. And I need to pick up a bone to pick with Paul about stopping her doing that. What is it?

That is, I see both sides of this. I do. I see both sides. Anyway, it was an unbelievable surprise, and I was blown away. That is very impressive. If you got to turn 40, that's the way to do it. Absolutely. If you're me or Matt. Yeah, when you have turned 50 and we're at my 40th birthday party, don't be surprised if I copy you.

Please. Please, just you'll be dating my girlfriend at that point? Well, no, parts of it will be different. Okay. That's one of the parts that will be different theoretically. I'm open to that. Actually, you know what I don't know what's going to happen. All right.

Who does? Anyway, tell us how your bond Yeah, my James Bonding sort of started for me. I was born in the year of Octopussy. That's the first one I saw in the theater. Yeah, yeah, wow, this is really... So that'll put you in his...

Right, so here we go, I was born in the year of Octopussy. I had... We're going to... No longer will we dispense with the Gregorian calendar. Or the Chinese year of the rat. It is gone. Yeah, now we just... I'm here of the live and let die. And if there is, if there is

no, if there is no James Bond movie, you are plus one, live and let die. This is how it will be. This is how the calendar shall be. We are plus one skyfall, minus two. Yeah. Mystery movie. Probably, it's cylinder fuck. Oh, that's not a bad name.

It's going to be. Do you think we can petition the broccoli's to get the, like, to name the next one? I'm probably not. No. It's probably not going to have. Although, they're very protected. Yeah. So just as a, as a kid.

So, view to a kill comes out in the year of view to a kill, also known as 1985. And this is sort of where it starts for me. I had two older sisters. So I have a sister who's 42 and a sister who's 38 now. So they were older than me and also had access to renting videos and VHS and stuff like that. And they were big anglofiles at the time. So one thing they watched a lot was Remington Steel and James Bond movies. Mainly a view to a kill because of the Duran Duran song.

And when it eventually came out, the Living Daylights with the... Aha. Yeah. Yeah. So that was sort of their music. That was their guy. They're James Bond. So I sort of started watching it then.

and it was only after an interview on Oprah with Tom Hanks, get ready for this, where he was asked to describe his perfect afternoon or sort of Sunday, or I forget what it was. That's the cliche, describe your perfect Sunday, you know, but it was Oprah, and I believe this was an interview he was doing, I feel like for Philadelphia. Maybe it was Philadelphia, so it was like 90s, mid, early 90s,

90s. And he said that his idea of the perfect day would be sitting on a couch, giant glass of root beer, and an old James Bond movie on the television. Well, we've got to get them on here. Yes, right. Tweet at Tom Hanks and get them on here. I'll see what I can do. I mean, just the listeners, everyone, yeah.

If you can, just, you know, we'll figure it out eventually what the hashtag will be for that. Yeah. Hanks on Bond. Hanks on Bond works, whatever. Yeah. Maybe that's, someone's going to think that's for him to play the villain. But anyway, when Tom Hanks said this, and at the time, no one in the country was more influential. That's true.

Than Tom Hanks. You know, Bill Clinton, no, no. Tom Hanks. But a Bond fan. Yes. Yeah, also a bond fan. But so this, me seeing Tom Hanks say that, my brain went, oh, that sounds amazing. I can drink root beer.

I'm of age to drink root beer and sit. on a chair and then I immediately went to the store. It was a blockbuster video at the time and got myself a copy of Goldfinger and Goldfinger and was it Moonwaker? It was probably Moonraker. And those were the two that I sort of went, wow, this is kind of great. And then I just went back, absorbed the entire catalog. Matt Goorley, what is your James bonding? Well, I'm fascinated because I think most people are similar. to mine in that you get it from your father. So it's interesting to hear that you got it from your sister.

I did, yeah. I got a lot of grief from my sister. Oh, really? But she was a huge Duran Duran fan, and this is the one thing that we could cross over on was you to kill. So my dad and I used to watch Bond movies. I remember sitting in his lap.

I don't know which one with my first. That's how early we would watch him. Whenever they were on ABC, like Sunday nights or something like that. But the first one I saw he took me to in the theater was Octopussy, and I just loved it. The year you were born. the year of octopus.

But when Vue to a Kill came out that summer, that was the summer I would have been 12. Right. So it was kind of like your parents could drop you off for the movies with some friends. And that's when I dug in and I just, I still love that movie. Most people hate that movie.

Oh, I enjoy it. I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what it is. The score is so good and Christopher Walkin and Grace Jones. And yeah, anyway, that's... And they clearly, a clearly aged... Mm.

Roger Moore, but to the point where it still works, it just still worked for him. He's a gentleman. Yeah. He's 57 in that movie, right? Yeah. And he's, yeah, well, we'll talk about that. Yeah, we'll talk about that when we get to it. But so I watched them a lot as a kid, and then

when I would go over to my dad's, and he was remarried, and my stepbrother and I were really close, we got along really well, and we would go, you know, rent a horror movie, but most weekends, we'd all, we'd get like three movies. One of them would usually be a a Bond movie, because my, dad loved the skiing scenes and he could never remember which so i kind of catalogs to help him remember you know for your eyes only and it was probably not the world was not enough no because that was not

even out um and then when i got to college was when the brosden one came out and it didn't work for you and so i stepped away i'm sorry to say i stepped away for a while you some of a bitch yeah and then uh oh lord that's probably pierce brosvenan Oh, he is livid. Well, tell him to come on. We'll discuss it on the show. I like him as a man. He's also paddleboarding in Malibu right now.

That's what he does. That's what he does with life. I completely do it. Poor guy. So what brought you back to it after college? Well, in 2004 or five, I went through this really bad breakup and I did this weird thing where I just said, you know, I'm going to take a month off of all work. Beautiful. I went every day to this little Irish pub.

I lived by the beach, and I drank a Guinness and had a corned beef sandwich and a deep-fried Snickers bar. I just was going to, like, not care about anything food. You just lived the American dream. I did. I would read, like, a Fleming Bond novel. I'd never read them before. I'd do a crossword puzzle. And then my goal was to go home each night and read every Shakespeare play.

But within a week, that turned into watching every James Bond. Right. Because the Fleming books were so good. And so I started watching them all again. And this was before they were re-released on DVD and they were hard to find. So I had to kind of rent video cassettes at Blockbuster at like 2005. It was difficult. I couldn't get them all.

And that's when I kind of got back into them. And then I'm happy to say when they announced Daniel Craig for Casino Real, I was really excited about it. I thought it's time to get away from the kind of Brosnan pretty boy thing. Really? Yeah, I was one of the few people that was, because I'd seen him in Munich and I thought this is great. He's like Steve McQueen. This is great. I had wanted one more, Rosnan.

Yeah. I'd wanted sort of Pierce to sort of get some sort of semblance of a send-off. Yeah. Because he was, you know, it was nine years. He was James Bond. Only four movies came out of that nine years. So it was like... You had it rough.

I just really... Although I feel like Daniel Craig's going to fucking take forever to get these five out. Yeah, the way it's going. But if that means we get better movies, that's fine. Oh, is that fine with you? Because it's not fine with me. Oh, well. Because something I like about James Bond movies.

is how bad they can be. That's true. New bad isn't as fun as old bad, though. Yeah, that's true. New bad is offensive. Dynar the day has been playing on stars or something, like a lot lately. And I can't, I don't even stay on it.

That one I can do because I think of the brazen is, it's probably, you know, the cheesiest of them all, so I can at least get into that factor. It is by far the most wink-wink-wink-nudge of the bunch. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so... I would mean that because Eric Idol wrote it.

Casino Royal comes out. I loved it. And then I was back. You were back on board? Did you, at that point, revisit the Brosnan's? Or were you just like... Yeah, because I got that ultimate DVD collection and did a thing where I would have all my friends over once a week. Under the guise of, I'll make the cocktail featured in the movie that night and we'll have drinks and watch the bomb.

movie, but it turned out to be this great social event. And so we took 21 weeks or whatever. Yeah, a lot of those nights, though, you were just making vodka on ice. I try. You can find something different in every one of them. We only did one martini. Oh, yes. Well, didn't Roger Moore make it a point not to drink martinis?

Yeah, so none of his had that. But there was always some, there was some website that, like, tallied all those things. There's plenty of websites. Yeah. So, yeah, so Matt and I love James Bond so much, we just, we thought. hey, let's put this together into a podcast and sort of catalog it. And what I kind of like about this, the idea of this podcast is that it does sort of have a finite number of episodes. At least for whatever first run we'll do.

Yeah. And I kind of, for me, and I hope maybe for you too, because with Super Ego you guys do, and then you kind of take some time off, because it's so strenuous to sort of just get that material out. for you guys, particularly because yours is much tighter than say a nerdist or, you know. Just or general talk podcast where you just sit and sort of rip. And this gave Matt the opportunity to come in and do a podcast like that. Oh, it's so nice.

Where he literally just shows up with a notebook. Yeah. Where he literally just shows up with a notebook. Yeah. Katie gets to be our producer and handle everything over here. God bless you. God bless you. Look at how excited he is. You're our Miss Moneypenny. You are? Oh, Katie's our Moneypenny. Yeah. Katie Moneypenny. I love it. This is, yeah, so, and this just sort of, I think that's what I like about it, is that there is sort of a light at the end of the tunnel. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, because sometimes when you sign up for something, you're like, oh, God, will this end.

Right. Yeah, right. But, but this will end, yeah. For at least until, you know, when the new one comes out or we want to revisit them. Yeah. Yeah. Or if someone's like, I have a take on a view of you who kill you haven't heard before. I'm ready.

Bring it on. Ready for that. I'm excited. So, yeah, now we're sort of at the point where... So here's the deal. We're going to do this podcast. And what we're going to do is we're going to have on a guest, possibly, too. I feel like if...

Because we have friends that may like the same. Yeah. Because I know Hardwick really likes View to a Kill. Oh, okay. And I know Padgett wants to talk about you. Yeah, well, there's no reason we can't make it a cocktail party. Why not? We'll just do that.

Yeah. Well, he's a recovered alcoholic. Oh. So there is a reason. One reason. We can't make it a cocktail party. But I didn't mad. All right.

Yeah, I think that occasionally we should just open up and be like, yes, of course, love to. So what we'll do is Matt and I will discuss the James Bond franchise, one movie at a time, with some of our funny friends, sometimes some of our friends that are much smarter than us, and sometimes some of our friends that might even be a little crazier about James Bond than we are. Although I don't know that we have any. I don't get your face. If you could see his face. You would know how funny it was.

So here it is. So this is James Bonding, and what we're going to do is go through each movie. But Matt and I were curious to see what maybe you guys thought about the order in which we're doing them. So there is the school of thought that says, do Dr. No, then do from Russia with love, then do Goldfinger. But I had an idea. Yeah. And I ran this by Matt, and he seems okay with it. At first I was, I wasn't sure.

Now I'm pretty on board with this. Because after you watch Dr. No, you're like, oh, it's going to be a long haul. Yeah, I didn't want to go into From Rush with Love. I wanted something different. Right. So what we're going to do, we think, I say we're going to ask you, but we're probably going to do it without you telling us what to do. Because we'll probably have it done by the time this is out, right?

Yeah, by the time we'll probably have already done it. Just imagine you're talking to us and we're taking it. We're listening to you. We understand, but we've already arrived at a conclusion. Yeah. So what we're going to do is instead of going Dr. Noah from Rush with Love, what we're going to do is sort of take it from both sides and sort of meet in the middle.

So we're going to go, Dr. No, Skyfall, from Russia with Love, Quantum of Salus. Have you done the math? What do we end up at? I feel like we end up at like Moonraker. I feel like it ends up. Even for your eyes only. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I wish Katie was doing that math for us right now. Okay. I'll do the fronts, you do the backs. Gotcha. No. Skyfall. From Russia with Love.

Quantrum of Salas. Goldfinger. Casino Royale. Thunderball. Die another day. You only live twice. The world. is not enough.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Tomorrow never dies. Diamonds are forever. GoldenEye. Live and let die. Licensed to kill. The man with the golden gun. No.

Yeah, yeah, you're correct. Sorry. Man with the golden gun, then it would go the living daylights. Spy Who Love Me. View to a kill. Moonraker. Octopussy.

For your eyes only. For your eyes only. Right in the middle. Yeah, we're going to end on a lot of Roger Moors, a whole handful of Roger Moors. But I'm fine with that. Either way. There was going to be a handful of who.

There was going to be a period of time where we were only talking about Roger Moore. And that's just going to be either way. I never mind ending on the Roger Moore. I have a secret for the internet. He might be my favorite James Bond. He's up there for me too. He really might be my favorite. Roger Moore is so fucking charming.

He really is. He really is. I just said our first swear I'm sorry. No, I said cylinder fuck. Oh, there you go. Which should be the next name. Yeah, well, hashtag that for. first before or just hashtag that to Tom Hanks.

Dear Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. Please consider cylinder fuck as your title for the next James Bond installment. I've already discussed it with Sam Mendez. Or a homeless man who calls himself Sam Mendez. Sam Mendez.

Well, Mendez, how is he how does he say it? I don't know. It's British, so however he says it is correct. Yeah. That's how I always I always go, if there's a word I don't know how to say, And a British person says it around me. I'm like, well, that's got to be it. They're first. That has to be the way to see it.

Unless it's like American colloquialism that was invented here. Right. Like if they were to say Disney land, then you'd say, no, it's Disneyland. I would also say, why do you sound Dutch? Well, he's Dutch in English. His name's Nigel. Holdquist. Oh, I like this a lot.

Sounds like he might be a bond villain. He is. your eyes only. Yeah, I work in plastic. Let's talk segments. All right, here we go. We're going to break down what we think maybe some segments should be. Also, again, we are always open to evolving and changing just like the James Brown franchise.

So, let's talk segments. Okay. You had a good idea about the villains. Yeah, I had an idea in a segment that we would like to call. Also, for the record, we are open to jingles. So if anyone wants to write a jingle for us, we will tell you the name. of a segment and you can please send that on over. And I don't want to tell

you how to do your business, but when you think, like, don't think radio jingle, think Bond song, John Barry, a lot of E minor seven suspended chords in there. Just let it ring out. Reverfick, flick it in and just oh, Vic Flick. Oh my goodness.

It's a deep cut, everybody. Yeah. That guitar is for sale. Did you know that? No, how much. The guitar that the James Bond theme was played on. And it's an acoustic guitar. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, yeah. And it's, I saw the, like, the auction estimate

was a few hundred thousand, like hundreds of thousands of dollars. If, if I was a wealthy person. Yeah. Is that something you would want? If I had money to burn, there are worse things to buy. Okay, now here's my question to you. We're going to diverge a little bit,

and this is just sort of how the podcast is going to be. Also, James Bond related. If I sent to you a picture that I took from the Comic-Con floor, profiles in history, which is an auction company. They did that show Hollywood Treasurers. They had in their case, going up for auction in August,

is going to be the Walther that James Bond uses, Sean Conner uses in the publicity photos for James Bond. So when you see James Bond in the silhouette and he's got the long-barreled Walther, something he never actually shoots in the movies. Yeah, or is ever uses in the movie.

Right, correct. But whenever you see the James Bond silhouette, It's always that long... Is it a Walther? It's not a Ruger? No, that's a Walther. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's a Walther with the longer barrel.

We're wrong. Gun freaks, please write to us. I don't know. I mean, I can't believe I said that. We would like our own Boothroy to write to us. If I worried that my girlfriend would listen to this, I'd worried she'd leave me. There's no way. So would you rather have that gun, the famous, famous gun from all those publicity photos we grew up on?

No, I'd take the guitar. Take the original Walther from the movies first. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever fired a Walther? Let me ask you this. I've fired a replica Walther.

Replica. Like a shot blanks. Like it's a type of like kit gun that used to make in the 80s that are made of durable plastic, but their exact replicas. Yeah. A fun segment we could do, I think, would be to go to the LA Gun Club because they have the Walter P.99, which is the Brasman. It was the Brosnan gun. And they have the Walter P.P.K. Let's do it. Can we do a mobile recording of that?

Yeah, sure we could, yeah. Oh, my God. Maybe that's a thing we filmed for the channel, the nerdish channel. That's right. You guys have all these resources. Yeah, we have something that Super Ego does not, which is resources, but you guys have something we don't, which is quality. Well, let's meet in the middle. Sounds good to me. Make something real meaty. I will warn you, though, that the Walter P99 is maybe my least favorite guy.

I've ever fired. Why? I love that you have a least favorite. I do. It's weird. You know it's sad? I know my guns too. Yeah.

Well, I'll tell you, the Walter, the trigger never fires at sort of the same point. The trigger's awful on it. Just the P99 or the... The P99. It's great. It's a delightful gun.

But the Walter P99, if you're wondering, you'll pull the trigger. Sometimes you have to pull it really far. Sometimes not so much. You never know when it's going to fire. And I'm surprised there aren't more accidental deaths

from that gun. I swear I wouldn't bring this up, but since you've brought this up, did you, have you noticed and Dr. Noe that he, you know, he has to trade in his burretta to get the PPPK. But when he shoots a dent, he's using a silencer and apparently PPCs don't take silencers or something, but he's got a little Belgian gun that looks just like a PBK. Oh, really? I had no idea that was the case. This is why you guys tuned in the archives? Is that in the James Bond archives? No, this is something I noticed. Only because when I was young, I used to get these little kit replicas, and that gun was one of them. You could get either one. But if you look at it, you can tell the difference. It's got a little... But Boothroyd comes in and says it takes a barrage silencer with no very little muscle velocity, loss of muscle.

Look, maybe they really do. Muzzle velocity, sorry. This is what you're in for, everybody. Manusia upon minutia. Oh, fine. The James Bond style. Fine tooths. Microscope.

Microscopic mediocrity. If you think it's too small for us to notice, you're wrong. If you think it's too small for us to notice, we noticed you think that. You know the Hubble? Fuck that. Ours is better.

We've got some kind of diamond satellite. Excuse me, diamond. Oh, that was delightful. So the, okay, yeah, back to what we're talking about. We got on this point by me discussing the original category we were going to, or the original segment. So please, yes, send us in a jingle. Here's the segment I'd like to do. How could the villain have succeeded?

As I've noticed watching these movies over the years, there's always one or two things differently that could have been done and the plan would have gone off. without a hitch. Whether it's actually cutting him in half with that laser or just maybe not bothering with him. Yeah. That is how... So we're going to look at each movie. We'll come up with...

This is, for instance, it'll be Dr. Noe coming up, you'll hear. We'll go through Dr. No's plan. We'll go through how his plan failed, and then we'll go through how his plan could have succeeded. Yeah, I like that a lot. Yeah. And you kind of gave me an idea, and that's something similar. And that's, when does the Bond Girl

turn from strong, independent just good match for Bond to just jelly-legged follow him anywhere. There's always a point in the movie where they just turn from character to cipher and it's always disappointing.

Bond Girl to Bimbo or Bumbo or uh uh uh Uh, shit, what do we call that? Strong, we call that, uh, uh, uh, uh, you tell us.

Yeah, tell us what you think that segment should be called. Katie? Independent woman to dependent. Or maybe it's like, um, uh, good, like, good head to Vesper. Like, what are the two extremes there? Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's the most, like, shallow one? Is it Tracy Sutton from view to a kill?

Or who's the... No, no, no, no. It's Jane Seymour from Living Let Die. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, from... From Vesper to Solitaire or something.

Fake psychic ability. And then... Oh, so wait. So you're saying that Vesper is the one who can take care of herself the whole time? It's not that they can take care of themselves. It's just that they remain independent from his... Or they're just real women. That they're...

You know, she had flaws, but she was a person. She was a well-developed character. Yeah. But, like, the best example... is probably pussy galore. She's really strong, independent woman. And then she goes to just sap. She turns...

Yes. She just gives over to him just the minute he makes loved her. That is an interesting turn. More appropriately date rapes her. Yeah. But I think that one takes a little longer, a little longer than most of them do.

Yeah, yeah. As far as like screen time is concerned and activities they're happening. So this is a segment we're going to figure out. I think we both have an answer already for Dr. No, but listen for the next episode. And we will break that down without a name. Also looking for a jingle.

If you can write it into the jingle, then great. Another thing that I was doing was counting the number of times the James Bond theme is queued. And then writing down the reason for the cue. Because in Doctor No. It's usually just walking through a hotel. It's literally, I'm going to check my messages. Yeah, it gets ridiculous. And then you go towards the later movies where it's used to use much, much, much more sparingly.

Yeah. Which I think that might be just a part of whoever they get to score the movie kind of doesn't want to rely on the crutch. Right. And then John Barry had his own little. Pop-Bup, pop-pap-pap-pap-pah-pah-pah that he kept using. Yeah, and we're going to talk about that too. Someone on Twitter, I'll have to look it up because there's a great suggestion, said the difference between the Fleming novel and the film. Oh, okay.

When that applies. Sure. Pretty good. I like that. Because early on, they're not huge. And then... Yeah, they do take quite a... In.

Only. Which will be Bond 26. Ooh. We already named two more. Cocktails. We could talk about the cocktails. Yeah, we can talk about the cocktails. Because, like, Goldfinger, they feature...

You know, the Kentucky. Burbin. Oh, the mid-jul. Yes, God. Yes. What? Correct. Yes, we can do that.

I'd also like to, at some point, discuss my favorite James Bond suit in the movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's going to be a real nice recurring segment for everybody. I've got to start paying attention to these details. You do. You got to look at them. Roger Moore has some suits. Yeah, he does.

He was... I think even though Roger Moore's suits sometimes look ridiculous. The biggest victim to their time is George Lazenby. The biggest fashion victim. The biggest fashion victim of the era in which their movie was released is George Laysenvian. Is it because of the Ruffle Shirt Kilt one? It is because of that. I like it.

It is also because of his sideburn situation. It is also because of, because you immediately, what's, Diamonds are Forever is, what, two years later or a year later maybe? Yeah, and I'm not sure. Yeah, because Secret Service is 69 and Diamond's Forever 71. Yeah. So two years later. you would think you'd see some sort of repeats

in horrible faux pos of clothing. What I like about James Bond is he never, or rather, he rarely looks out of time. Yeah, they do a pretty decent job. Yeah. Like, he's always like, although, you know, maybe, maybe I'm completely wrong on this

because thinking back to sort of like, if you look at some of the suits that Pierce Broson is wearing, the lapels are a little bigger, or so on and so forth, you're sort of knowing, you know who's going to know a lot about this? Paul L. Tompkins. It was our first guest. Someone should write down,

let's talk to Paul about suits. I think I honestly already have that. Great. Because we were talking, but we watched Dr. Noon. Yeah. And he has some strange cuffs. Oh, I noticed those too, in the phone booth. That's where I noticed those.

Butterfly cuffs, I think they're called. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a French cuff. It's like a French cuff if it imploded. Is it a pepillon cuff? The cuff de pepion. Pepeon.

I just came back from Montreal, so that really flowed. No problem. Yeah, that was pretty good. I didn't question. Yeah, so that's the thing. And then we're sort of actually just going to sort of break down the movie as it goes along. I'm learning from this inaugural episode that we're not going to have any problem talking about these things. Yeah, really.

Segments may even get in the way. Yeah, this sort of has turned into Matt and I discussing we can talk at length. about nothing. Yeah. Or something as important as James Bond. So, yeah, I think it's just really important that you guys just sit tight.

And now that you've finished listening, I'm wrapping this up, by the way. Yeah, that's fine. That's the flow I'm feeling. Just sort of sit back and enjoy the ride with us. And we're going to do, episode one is out available today. And episode two will be out

shortly thereafter. you know, I think at most we would do this two weeks apart from each other, right? At most, yeah. At most two weeks apart. Yeah, because we'll probably stack up a few before we release. So, you've got a lot to look forward to, a lot of fun. Also, there are the obvious segments of let's discuss opening titles, the Scored, gadgets, girls, henchmen, yeah.

We're going to hit everything you want us to hit, and if we don't hit it, you tell us to hit it. Yeah. At James Bonding Pod. also Bond James Bonding at gmail.com Right, that's right

That is our official email address Bond James bonding at gmail.com We tried to get that for Twitter But it was one character too long And we missed us at that for at least 15 minutes Not even thinking of another one Just mourning that we couldn't do that

We were so bummed We tried it three or four times On both phones We thought for some reason Maybe it's our phone that is doing this. Let's try a different phone. Since when you have to count the at? Yeah, I didn't care for that one bit.

Twitter, if you're listening, just give us one more character. I'm sure that would throw all of your coding off, but listen. Okay, so yeah, we're going to do Dr. No this week with Paul F. Tompkins. Very kind of him to join us, and we're going to

break it down. So please, by all means, stop this episode right now. After we're done, go ahead and watch Dr. No. And then enjoy, enjoy us talking about it. Yeah, we're here for you. This is, this is for you, for the world and for the children. Yeah.

And we're going to do a segment where we read emails and call it for our eyes only. I just made that up. We could have called this for your ears only. Don't talk about it. We're happy with James Bonding. I bet that's been done. I'm sure it has. I'm sure it has.

Yeah, so thank you guys. Matt says thank you too. Thank you. See you in just a Just so just a little bit We'll just turn this off Turn on another one No problem

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