James Bonding - Goldeneye with Steve Agee

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

Steve Agee joins the Matts for a revisit of the Pierce Brosnan Classic(?), Goldeneye. Plus, the latest Bond 25 news with our man in the east, Phil Nobile Jr. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello listeners and welcome to the James Bonding Podcast. Gold and I Revisited. I'm Matt Goreley. Here to give you a little intro, information, and news up front. There was a small but almost warm and welcome. analog-sounding technical issue throughout some of this episode, mostly at the end. We took great pains to fix it and post many hours. Long story. But it's almost all gone. You might notice a little bit of it there. Apologies up front. Also, thank you so much to all

the people. Literally hundreds. It's mind-blowing the amount of people that wrote in to be our social media liaison. We're going to probably announce that next episode. And before we begin with the Golden Eye review with our guest, Steve Agee, I'd like to check in with Our Man in the East, Phil Nobill Jr., to give us what might be even an exclusive word on the street about the current state of Bond, Daniel Craig, and what's coming for Bond 25. Let's check in with him now. Phil, our man in the East, thanks for taking some time to check in with us again. Anytime, man. All right. So what's the scuttlebutt on the street?

What's the dirt? What's the goss? What's the what's the haps? There's nothing official. And I need to yell at you. I need to chastise you guys a little bit because you, on the podcast, which I appeared, you were buying all the tabloid stuff about he's officially back and he's doing two and he's getting $150 million. I think it was Matt Meyerer more than you. Well, you know, you're right. Let me defend myself. When I see something in print in the old gray lady, the New York Times, all the news that's fit to print. I consider that sourced, and maybe if the sources aren't printed, I consider that a non-fake news, you know, a reliable news source as I do you. So we'll take this all with a grain of salt, but I actually appreciate you calling us out on our journalistic integrity, and I think we need more of it. So good.

Well, yeah. I mean, the New York Times did say that, like, they think that he's all but confirmed, But they were, you know, that's the closest I've heard to a real thing. Right. That leads us to what we're here to talk about today because as this podcast drops on Tuesday the 15th, you're hearing rumblings that we might maybe hear something today? I have. I've heard that we're going to hear something on August 15th,

and that might or might not have anything to do with the fact that Daniel Craig is going to be on the late show, Stephen Colbert, tonight. And maybe they are going to announce something in advance. of that or maybe he's going to announce on that show. I know if I was producing Luckin, Logan Lucky, I'd be kind of upset that all this Bond 25 chatter is eclipsing my movie. Right, right. And, yeah, your prediction was that they wanted to let him have that before announcing anything.

But I was also wondering if maybe the Bond producers are a little savvy and are trying to ride that wave. I feel like they don't need that wave so much. This is a small movie. It's a weird thing to kind of latch on. to if they're trying to attach their stuff to that because my prediction, as much as I thought it was the true one, kind of got upended when they announced Bon 25 November 8th in 2019, like right before Loven Lucky came out, which I thought was a weird move.

Yeah, it's a slight sniping. I don't know. I'm trying to read the tea leaves, but it's hard to figure it out. Now, I just yelled at you about unofficial news, but I'm going to tell you some other unofficial stuff that I've heard. and I don't want to get anybody in trouble. I don't even know this person, but there's a, let's say there's a bond collector's sort of area on the web where people chit-chat. And there's a guy on there who always seems to have stuff from set.

He always seems to have an inside track on stuff. And then he has said some things which have panned out. So this is coming from that guy. Okay. They're saying that he's saying, Craig is definitely returning. And he thinks he's doing too. to back. Now, I have a problem with that because Craig was very vocal about not doing two back to back.

But that's also what the big papers are reporting, right? The trusted sources that I went all in for. Yeah, I don't know how trusted they are, but it's, you know, the New York Times didn't say back to back. The New York Times said he's coming back. Okay. This is why we need you. This is why we need you here because Matt and I were too casual. We're, like we've said, lovers, not experts, but we bring in the experts to clear it up. So consider Phil's reading of these, our reading. Let us tackle to you. Let's throw in the middle of that. Let's throw in the middle of that. That at TCA, the Nevin's, the CEO of

Showtime, talked about this mini-series purity and said, well, he's doing Bond first, which is a weird thing to just drop in the middle of, you know, your showtime announcement. He said that Craig is definitely doing Bond next. Yeah, see, that's the closest to the insider. Right, that's interesting to me. And it feels like if that guy knows that, he would have to know that because they're doing this show. I'm surprised Moore hasn't leaked.

And it sort of lends credence to all we've been hearing because it sounds to me like if it's gotten that far and enough people at enough different companies have to know that. it would have leaked and maybe that's what we're hearing. So I would put my money down on this. Right. I'm just always pushing back against things that I want to be true. I've got to like check themselves and not just buy in.

That's smart. Back to my unofficial guy. Here's another thing that he said. He said that if he's doing two back to back, he thinks it means that we'll see less action and more character-driven plumps. Oh, I like that. Which is an interesting thing. Yeah.

Because maybe if they told Craig, you know, maybe if you just mosey through this like Roger Moore, we can knock out to you. And it won't be, you won't have to go in the hospital with a bad knee. Hmm. Who knows? Interesting. Now, what else can you? I'm into that idea. What else can you tell us about the initials, T.H?

Okay. This is the same guy, and this is just flat out gross gossip. I had nothing to back this up. Okay, full disclaimer. And he, yeah, and he says that another bloke was signed up if Craig didn't take the option offered. His initials are TH, but not the one I thought. Now, this guy was very vocally saying that Hidlston had an offer once upon a time. So he's saying he's a different TH. He said he signed up to do it if D.C. didn't take them up on their offer. It was enough

for Craig to decide, as apparently he was the last person he wanted to take the role after himself. So that's Tom Hardy, we're assuming? We have to assume as Tom Hardy. And I am curious to know. I asked some of my blogger pals who are more embedded than me in Los Angeles, and they said that lots and lots of actors hate Tom Hardy. Why? I don't know. I think

maybe some kind of onset shenanigans. I think he's a big personality. You know? Maybe causes an extreme reaction. They work together in Layer Cake. I don't know anything about their history beyond that. Oh, interesting. Now, see, that's funny because, yeah, I'm with

on the, it's not that I'm dubious about that necessarily, but whenever it comes to personal gossip, it feels like once that gets translated through more than two or three people, their own opinions get attached to it. And so, you know, yeah, I'd say take that one with a huge grain of salt, but it's very interesting that it's not Tom Hittleston we're hearing about. It's Tom Hardy, and then that leads me to wonder how close was Christopher Nolan to that package if Daniel Craig didn't come back. Right. And this guy also, the ways in on that. He says, Nolan wanted to do three films, which again, I'm having trouble buying. I mean, he did three Batman movies, but I feel like that the Nolan of

2017 is not jumping onto a franchise for three movies. Very interesting. Very interesting. Wow. Well, Phil, I can't thank you enough, A, for giving us the dirt, but also setting what we know to be true straight. And we'll check in with you more. Is there anything else we need to talk about today? I don't think so, and I think it's exciting that we might be hearing something official by the time this is in our ears. Do you have a prediction personally? I think he'll say he's coming back. For two? I don't think he's going to say two. I think if there is two that's still insider junk, and I think he's, and I almost don't want him to do two. I kind of just want to see him do a swan song. Yeah, it would be interesting if it is to how they're going to draw that out. I'm very

curious. So, well, hopefully as you're listening to this, maybe it'll be a matter of hours before we hear something. Phil, I can't thank you enough, and the world is better having you out there looking out for these things. It is my pleasure to be part of your bonding podcast. Okay. We'll talk to you more as more news develops. Phil Nobill Jr., our man in the East. Take care. And now we bring you Golden Eye, Revisited with Steve Agee. And James Bonding podcast. Well, here we are for James Bonding, our first movie discussion of season two. And our guest today, say, I can't tell.

Age. A.G. Steve. Age, Steve. No. Steve A. Steve A.G. You go by initials?

It's A.G.E.E. Anyway, I'm Matt Gourley. I'm Matt Myra. And this is James Bonding. Today's discussion, Golden Eye. Matt, your pick? Bump, bum, bum, bum. Bump, bum, bum, bum.

A song, of course, written by. Bono and the Edge, right? That's correct. Yeah. So, Matt, this was your choice. Tell us again why this is where you wanted to start. You won the coin toss. We've had somewhat of a distance between our love affair.

I call it a love affair. You call it a disdain for Pierce Brosnan. Well, let's start off on a good. good footing. A complicated relationship. Okay, fair enough. We just hadn't done a Pierce Broson movie in a while, and he was my bond. He was the one I hit the wheelhouse with.

Is that true? Yeah, he was, uh, my favorite is Roger Moore, Lake Great, but I was 13 when I saw Tomorrow Never Dies. And, uh, sorry, guys, I'm much younger than you. Yet I pulled my back getting out of bed this morning. Well, I had vertigo at 5 a.m. I took a Benadryl, so I'm on... Matt, what are your physical ailments today?

I woke up and did a deck of Capulon. A deck? A whole deca? Yeah, I built ten decks. Of cards. Yeah, so, you know, I wanted you to sort of revisit Pierce Brousin, and I thought, why not get back in with his first foray into the bond franchise? I'll tell you what, I was happy to do it. And last night, Amanda was working. Mm-hmm.

I had the place to myself. I threw on Golden Eye. And it just was good to get back to a Bond film. It's like an old friend. So it's Golden Eye. What year are we talking? 94-95? I can't remember this.

I believe this was 1,195. Okay. That's right. Mid-90s. This was after the legal troubles and after Timothy Dalton bid farewell. And there was a script written for the Timothy Dalton, James Bond movie. That's right. It was like China-based, wasn't it? Yes, Hong Kong. They were scheduled to shoot and everything.

1990. And the franchise got caught up in the legal trouble where the people that bought MGM wanted to sell off the rights to James Bond. Cubby Broccoli was not having it. So there's a very long legal battle that only got resolved in 1993, I think. So they cleared up their legal issues. Bosnan was finally clear of his Remington Steel contract, which precluded him from doing the Dalton-era movies. And here we are with this long-awaited Pierce Brosnan as Bond. What I wonder is how long Pierce Brosnan had he been available to do, I mean, living daylights?

Would he have been James Bond from 1986 to 2004? That's a good question. I think he would have. Yeah. Definitely. You're saying America wouldn't have gone for it? Well, it did lead me to this. And now it's no secret that Brazen is maybe my least favorite of the bonds.

I still love Bond movies and I still like him. You like him less than Timothy Dalton? I do, yeah. I like Dalton. But I don't want to say that I dislike Brosnan. I'd like to clear that up. Yeah. All right.

So you're on the record. I do think of all the bonds, he's the one that wants to be Bond more than. and like he needs Bond more than Bond needs him. Does that make sense? I gotta say, he's the one of all the people who've played James Bond. He's the one that looks like he smells the best. Oh, no doubt.

Yeah, and I bet he smells like he smells the best, too. He looks like, you just, oh, it's like, he looks great in this movie. He looks so good. His hair is just like, I don't know, it's not as high and tight as it is in the other movies. It's a little more flowing.

He just looks. But we don't even see his hair until he, the close-up of him. When he's hanging upside down? That's true. But you assume you see him running, but the first close-up is him hanging upside down. And he's already got full, lustrous hair. Hanging upside down gives it so much more body. It is really.

I think, I think perhaps shampoo ads should photograph upside down. They probably do. But that scene also made me think, like, what's the best bond reveal of the bond, the first? shot of Bond. That's interesting. And I think that this may be down there for me because he's hanging upside down. Oh, I'm sorry. You said down there?

Yeah. You meant up there, right? Well, let's think about them. Okay, you can't argue that Conneries is not the best reveal because it's at the back of the barrette table. Sure, he's at the baghrod table. He's got a cigarette in his mouth and the first words out of his mouth are Bond James Bond.

I mean, that's undisputed, right? Stephen. And then go ahead, tell us about the other five, Steve. The other five James Bond's reveals. We got Roger Moore. getting a back rub from an Asia lady. You're not far off. Is that real?

Well, Italian. But his reveal as far as like a shot is very forgettable. I don't remember what it is. I also don't remember what it is as well. So we'll put that down there as well. Okay, but we skipped Lazenby. Yeah. Whose first shot is on the beach.

Yeah, and kind of looking straight into camera. It's a little weird. He's shampooing his head. On the beach. With sand. And so then Timothy Dalton. I love Dalton. It's after the second, like, M.I.6 guy dies.

Oh, right. And you hear like birds go. And it does a, like, kind of crash zoom on him as he turns around. I think it's great. That is great. And then, of course, we have Pierce Bros and hanging upside down while someone is shooting. Right. Comedically, it's good.

You're talking the very first time we see this person. Yeah. But for Gravitas, it doesn't do much. for me. And then Daniel Craigs is in black and white. So then his first reveal of Bond is either the gun barrel or him in Madagascar. I think it's still his reveal as the character is that black and white shot of him sitting in the chair that I think is pretty cool. It's low-key.

He's not a double O yet. All right. Steve, where do you weigh in on this? I think it's Madagascar. It sounds like the next Bond girl's name. Meta, Jagascar. All right, so let's get into this. Pussey, Matta, Gagascar.

Do we start with the gun barrel sequence? Let's start with the gun barrel sequence. I think he does a great one. I think he does one that doesn't need to be reshot ever. I have mixed feelings. Tell me, why do you have mixed feelings about this? You don't like how smoothie moves, how handsome he lives? I think his walk is killer.

He's great. He's got a good stride, he's confident. You're talking about the credit? Yeah. Oh, yeah. But when he turns to fire, and his stance, it looks more like he's slapping than he's firing a gun. Like, he just kind of, I don't know what it is.

It's just kind of... You've got a pivot problem. I think so. Pivot and execution, but the run-up to it is top-notch. Dale Craig's is the best, I think. Oh, it's so good. He's so precise with it, and he really looks like he's going to kill somebody. And he's got three technically.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, Sean Connery's is not even Sean Connery. No. Doesn't he do it at some point? I feel like he never did it. I feel like they just kept using that one. But they may be right.

And then there is Roger Mores, which is fine. I like his end stance, though. In fact, he, of all the bonds, has a trademark, like, gunfire thing where he kind of throws his left hand out to the side a little bit. Got to balance when you shoot a gun. You got a pirouette. It's very balletic. But I think as he's throwing that arm out, it opens him up to getting shot in the left arm. It's really foolish

Oh, so? You want to get, you want to be like a little tiny tree, you know? That's true. You want to ball up. You go in a fetal when you shoot a gun. You want to get to child's pose on a yoga mat and fire that peepy. Child's pose. Downward dog.

Come on a little baby, you're going to die. I'm chimpon, not even junior. Just try and hit me. I want my titty milk shit. Shake and not pumped. Shake it not pumped. Well, how are we going to get it to you? It has to pump out of a breast at some point.

Shake that titty first. Oh, God. Oh, so you just want to shake the titty. Whatever comes out. That's what we're going to. This is just an inkling of the way this series is going to go. Baby Bond. Baby Bond.

Baby Bond, sir. That would be a great animated series of Baby Bond. This is my Crip May Q. He gave me a baby bottle with cyanide. in it. And I asked to gently drank it. This waddle detects radiation.

My crib has an injector button. I would watch that cartoon. I would think of it as Muppet babies, right? Yeah. That sort of thing. And we'd never see M. We'd just see her legs.

That's funny. I was going to say M is like six years old. But no, I think I like that better. Yeah. That's good. And she or he speaks with the Charlie Brown muted trumpet. But Russians.

You just have to hear key things of what his mission is. And Baby Blufeld's the only one with hair. Oh, Baby Bluffield's adorable. If you're out there and you like drawing, please do some character sketches. Yeah. And NICNAC is like six inches tall. Nicknack. NICBeghepsco.

All right. So Gun Barrel. I forget how quick these come because they've always been teasing them in the Daniel Craig ones. Like they never happen when I want them to happen. Right. You never know when they're going to come. And it just felt quick to me now watching this Pierce-Brosnan situation. But let's talk about the opening pre-credit sequence, which is, you know, I like a James Bond movie where they add another double-O agent.

You know, I like in living daylights. Yeah, octopozy. Yep. Another double O goes down. Skyfall. Skyfall. Right? Well, there's the...

There's the discussion of the double O program. Ronson? You're talking about Ronson? No, what's his name from No Country for Old Men? Oh, right. That's right. He was a double-O. Fucking AG's schooling us.

We should have had him on the Skyfall on this. Emma? Yeah, James. Long time. Concade, you're still alive. You've left me here. to die alone. Thanks for burning down.

The only place I'm Yeah. Never mind. I looked after her for years and he just burned it down. I guess I'll go to live on the ice. Thank God your parents left me that stipend. How else am I living?

Also, I'm basically a useless character. Why didn't I die? I'm just here for sexual tension with Dame Judy's friend. Talk about a spin-off. That is a spin-off I want to see where Kincaid and Emma go on holiday. Oh. To the first merry-goat hotel or whatever it is.

It's adorable. I will say in the spirit of Brosnan appreciation, which is the way I'm going to approach this. I think this is one of the top five cold opens in all of this series. I love this cold open. Wow. I really do. I always have. I think I'm on record even the last time we did this.

And it's interesting. I was wondering when we go through these movies again, Am I just going to say a bunch of the same shit that I did last time? I found nothing but new stuff to say. I thought I should listen to see what I say previously. I didn't know that far. I did not. But I know a lot of the stuff is new, so it's a good sign that we're going to have plenty to talk about.

That's right. And that's a good way to go, I think. Yeah. I look forward to that four-hour thunderball. I do not. What do you, what movie do you? That cold open ends in the airplane, right? Yeah.

Okay. But I haven't know that because bungee jumping was so popular at the time, that was such a big thing. This is directed by Martin Campbell, who did Casino Royale. That's crazy to me. The Golden Eye Bungy Jump is, bungee jumping is to golden eye as parkour is to Casino Royale. Like, what's big at the time? Oh, that's interesting. Nice set piece with extreme sports of the time.

And I found a couple of interesting similarities that they both, even though the parkour sequence isn't the cold open of the casino Royal. It's really the first set piece of it. They both kind of end with Bond at the mercy of a bunch of the enemies with guns and having to use an explosion to get out of that situation. You know what I mean? Right. So he blows up the gas. But this has the trope, the Bond trope of his survival relying completely on the yoke of an aircraft. Which has occurred, how many? many times. A lot. Yeah.

It's essentially just, let's make this aircraft go out of frame and then we'll pull him out of it and we'll hit the music. Right. Yeah. It's a good sequence, though. Boy. It really is. And it's so.

There's some corny shit in it, though. Yeah. In this particular sequence? Yeah. When he's standing behind the roller with all the explosive tanks in it. That seems so Austin powers to me. It did, but it's pre-Austin powers, right? It is, yes.

I actually found that pretty funny and kind of childishly, like, and charming. Like cute in a way. Here's what I don't understand. So in an effort to escape that room, he hits the button on the conveyor belt. And when he jumps on the conveyor belt, he shoots an AK-47 at a lock, maybe. A lock or a hinge or something that then drops and just barrels upon barrels of gasoline are falling down. why is gasoline stored that way? Yeah.

There's no liquid gasoline. Wasn't it like a vapor gas. So if you unhook that in the room just for your job, everything would just come flying out. It's like the trick they play in the new guy. Hey, we need a new tank. You want to go out of it? That gasoline is specifically for action set pieces.

Oh, okay. Was that what it is? Yeah, this is a Russian film studio. Oh. They're on a set. That's the only thing. Here's something else that I've started to, in my old age. crumagently get wise to is just the fact that things shouldn't explode with that much fire unless they're primed with fuck tons of gasoline.

So the explosion of this facility makes sense to me. But later in the movie, when the when the helicopter goes down with Zinia on a top, the amount of fire that's in that is like the entire... It looked like the entire cockpit was full of gasoline. The way it burns. Martin Campbell is the star of this film, I have to say. What? Yes. Okay.

I mean, I noticed this the last time we watched Casino Royale, how elegantly he directs action without calling too much attention to his direction. Like, you know, those Boren movies are all about. Look at how the camera moves and everything. This opening sequence is shot so simply but effectively. And like when... It's precise. Yeah. When Alec and Bond open the...

The vent and it's shot from below. It's just sometimes I watch it just for the direction and never notice how good it is because it just flows so nice. Martin Campbell, it's crazy. He did these two amazing Bond films. I just realized last night that he did Casino Royale. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. But what, I mean, he did Green Lantern.

We did Green Lanham, which was a huge flop. I haven't seen Zorro. What else did he do? I don't know. I'm surprised he doesn't do more. It seems like you would want to hand him franchises. I feel like he'd be great at a fast and furious. But the only reason he came back to Bond because they were going to reinvent it,

they offered him another Brosnan, and he just didn't want to continue on in the same vein, but I wish he would have. I'm going to look him, his directing credits up. What has he been doing lately? Yeah. I will say, though, that the relationship between M, not M, 07,000, in 006 is interesting because you get this sort of, they're about the same age,

you feel like they came up through the service together. Yeah. But I'm trying to figure out plot was, not to jump too far ahead in the plot, just like what, when, does 006 just decide to turn? Yeah, that's weird.

Don't they say because of his, he's like, why'd you set the timer to three minutes? Yeah. Like, it's like, you were telling him to fucking kill everyone to begin with, which would have killed you. I thought this was planned from an early age because of his upbringing with all the cossacks and everything. So you assume that what?

He doesn't want to go through with that mission? He wasn't really shot in the face, I don't think. That was all faked. So you think that was all? And so he's upset about the explosion happening sooner because he would have gotten out and disappeared. That's why he's scarred. Well, they need to make it clear because the scarring could have also come from a bullet and an explosion. I don't think a bullet's going to scar up the whole side of your face.

I mean, he's not looking at him when he shoots. But I think it's clear enough that that's what happened. Apparently you do, but two people here don't think that. Yeah, I don't think that's clear. Really? I thought it was really weird that that's why he has turned on bond. One thing I can guarantee you, we're going to get a lot of emails telling us what it is. Is that true?

Do you guys get a lot of emails? Listen, I'm thrilled with those emails and I can't wait for our new social media director to filter those emails just to get us the important stuff. We're going to choose someone, but just so, you know, I've never seen. so many emails come in and it was heart-warming and flattering. We got so many emails from people wanting to do, I mean, so many that I literally couldn't read it. I've heard podcasts say that before. Like, we get so many emails. We can't possibly read it. It was crazy. My inbox was going insane. So we'll figure out some way to choose someone. And there's some amazing contenders in there, first of all. So thank you guys so much for your interest in doing that. That's very exciting.

Genuinely appreciate it. And I'm very excited that we might be able to get some of this off of our play it and onto yours. Yeah, I don't know how we're going to choose. We may have to just randomly choose. This is insane, by the way. I don't think Martin Campbell works because I feel like he doesn't need to or want to. Maybe he really chooses projects he cares about. So, his last credit after Casino Royale is Edge of Darkness with Liam Neeson. What'd you say?

The TV show? Yeah. He did Edge of Darkness with Liam Neeson. A movie I don't remember. Yeah. Green Lantern, which we all remember. One episode of the television show, Last Resort. Classic. I've never heard of any of the show.

A TV movie called Reckless. Wow. A TV movie called Warriors. A movie called The Foreigner. Oh. I wonder, it's like The Foreigner and Reckless. Are they based on plays? I don't know.

The foreigner is Jackie Chan. Nope. And Pierce Brosnan. Oh. And it comes out this year. This year? In October. Oh, boy.

Hello James Bonding episode. Oh, man. I love Jackie Jan. So there's a still image from this movie. Jackie Chan and Pierce Brosnan are standing across the desk from each other, and it'll make you feel real old. Did you see the edit somebody did with Brazen and Specter? No, is it any good? That's interesting.

It's interesting to think that could have happened. I actually think in some ways, Brazzan makes a better bond looking older because he's not quite as pretty. Would you like him to be, like, grizzled and, you know, how Affleck's supposed to be the Dark Knight Batman? Yeah. How he's supposed to be the old? Right, yeah. Batman. Would you like, would you be into the idea?

Let's say Daniel Craig does one more movie. Would you be into the idea of them bringing back Pierce Bros? isn't it? For one, go around as an older James Bond. As an experiment, I'd be curious, but yeah, I don't know. It's funny because you can do that by bringing Affleck in to do the older Dark Knight Batman, but every Bond basically gets to become that in their tenure, like Roger Moore, especially. Do you think Dale Craig's now 50, almost going to be 50? Yeah, I think he's 49.

Yeah, he's going to be, by the time the movie comes out, it'll be 52. That's so shitty. I am the same age as Daniel Craig. I'm the same age as Alex Jones. You are? That's crazy. I mean, you're younger, actually, than Daniel from 48. You could still do Bond.

Good enough. We need to go younger. Have you heard about Steve Agee? He just drinks green juice. Sometimes he gets vertigo in the morning and we'll have to wait on shooting. But he'll take a band and drone be fine by two. A little slow. And cut. Steve, get up off the ground. I'm sorry, it just feels so good to lay down.

Well, let's shoot another love scene today. Bob James Bond. I'm James Bond. Steve does the whole movie from Child's Pose. Okay, so also, I feel like we'd be remiss. I think we mentioned it in the last episode, but the opening sequence inside this facility, beautifully recreated in the Golden Eye Nintendo 64 game. That's true. That's a great game. We do need to do an episode on that.

We will. We will. We will. The killing of Alec in the opening scene is a great hook because it's something that you feel like, well, that's got to play into it somehow later. And it adds some real emotional stakes because usually the opening scenes are kind of fluffy. Yeah. This one gave it some heft.

I do like when they have nothing to do with the plot. I miss that. I like both. Like, if it's used well, I think this one is the best of both worlds. It has a, like, a little teaser for the plot or something that you don't know how it's going to play in later, but also stands on its own as a great opening sequence. And it has the added benefit of it being in the past. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, I forget about that. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, they jump almost 10 years. Yeah. Is that the biggest time jump ever? I mean, because there's the one. Brazen has a lot of time jumps because he and Die Another Day is in that Korean prison.

For how long? For the length of a title sequence. The longest title sequence. Because that song is a piece of shit. I don't know. Is it six months or six years or something? I feel like it's like 18 months? I can't remember.

Again. Nine years is such a long time. He looks no different. There's not one more wrinkle in the eyes. are nothing. Yeah, I never thought about it. Same with the Russian soldier guy. Yeah.

The general. That guy's good. Orimov? Yeah, that guy's real good. He's good. He's got a great character actor face. Post. Mortum.

What's his name? Four man's Roy Scheider. Or? Ron Silver? No, Roy. He looks like Roy Shider today. Oh, he looks like a four man's Roy Shider. I can see that.

Totally. Roy Shider would have been a great villain in a bomb. He would have. Have you seen Marathon Man? Yes. Roy Shider, I feel like, is so weirdly underrated for having been in, like, the French connection in Jaws. And, like, all that jazz. And Sequest DSV.

Right. Which is Star Trek and the old... Thunder, I mean, yeah. Roy Shider, shout out. I know you're listening to us from heaven. Also, dibs on the Roy Shider podcast we're going to be putting out soon. Roy Shidering. Shider Freud.

We got three listeners. Did you download it? Yeah, me too. We got one. One is Roy Shider's widow. Oh, Jesus Christ. He's dead? I know.

She might want to listen. It's sad that she'd be the only listener. I'm doing it for you, Mr. Schneider. That motorcycle ride off the cliff is an amazing stunt. It's a great stunt. A lot of blue screen, though. Oh, but that's absolutely. After.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. The actual wide shot is incredible. Yeah, the blue screen is... That's very true, but the blue screen's not quite good enough to sell the whole thing. No, but I give it a pass. I also think that's impossible, right? When you just be falling at the same speed as the airplane?

Well, the airplane, theoretically, is going at somewhat of an angle. It's got some lift. So its wings are still getting some lift. Okay. So it's descending slower. Okay. According to science that I just made up. I also love, even though it sort of looks like miniatures when the whole complex breaks up,

but there blows up at the end, I just love the look of that. They did a lot of miniature work on this episode, this episode. This podcast, what the fuck is this? A movie we're talking about? Yeah, that's it. They could have killed Bond, because there's that moment where he's out of the plane and then he's getting on the motorcycle. And everyone puts their guns up and the general goes, wait. I want to see this.

Like, dude, no, don't wait. Just fucking shoot him. Yeah, I did kind of like that. I'm like, I can't wait to watch this guy die driving off a cliff. But it's like, I don't even think he thinks he's going to jump off the cliff. I think he thinks just wait till you see this, he's going to see it's a dead end and have to come back and we'll shoot. Yeah. I thought it was pretty funny.

Shoot him right in that pretty face of his. The miniatures in this remind me a bit of like the Thunderbirds' miniatures in that they feel almost like so pleasant. recently miniature, even the flames. I just love it. I miss miniatures in movies. There's a couple of great photos from the set of the special of X-guise working on, particularly the dish in Serenova. Oh, yeah, Derek Meddings, right?

And his son did it too. Yeah. But Casino Royale had miniatures in it as well. Did it? I think, yeah, because the whole Venetian house crumbling from the outside is like a, it's like, I don't know, six or seven or eight feet tall. and then they composite it into the real Venice city's game. But I feel like that's missing, a little of that practical stuff is missing after Quantum of Solis.

Because Skyfall and then especially Spectre gets real CG. But then we've talked about this before. Some of the stuff that's actually practical looks CG because they end up kind of like treating it or adding smoke and stuff. Once they do color correction and stuff like that, I feel like they ruin a lot of the eye trickery. Yeah, I agree. Because the case and point is when Craig and that, what's the guy's name in Quantum of Solace? That's the bad agent in the beginning. The bad agent in the beginning.

That he chases on foot through Sienna. Oh, yeah. I forget his name. M's right hand. Yeah. I forget his name as well. But when they fall through that glass window, that's real, but it just doesn't look real. And then like the Spectre, Mexico City building facade falling.

I think is mostly real, isn't it? Yeah. Guys, we just want to get back to Non-color corrected James Bond. Yeah. That's right. I'm tired of this. Gritty.

Cepia bullshit that the Coen Brothers started. Oh, man. Yeah. Fating. I am a man. Constant Staru. Whole movie. Cepia.

Would you take a Coen Brothers Bond film? No. I don't know what they'd do with it. I mean, just for a... If they were like... We're going to do this and we're going to do it for realzies. Yeah, imagine if it was like no country for oldman might be in it. As Vaughn.

Then I'd watch, yes. With John Goodman is M. Well, isn't that what Atomic Blonde? Or no, I guess M.M at Walsh could play M. Did you see Atomic Blonde yet? I didn't know. Do you see Atomic Blonde yet? I didn't see it, yeah.

We should. I've heard multiple things about it. Yeah. I've heard bad things about it. I've heard good and bad. It bugs me out because that trailer looked amazing. All I've heard is bad things about it. Really?

I've heard some good stuff. Have you from whom? Nico Case. Great. She likes it? Yeah. Into it. Nico's a...

She's got a good taste. That's right. She enjoys a good flick. That's a good enough recommendation for me. We should see it and maybe talk about it. Love it. We got lots of episodes to do. Yeah.

So little time. That's right. All right. Let's talk about that opening credit sequence. Yeah, I just read, there's just released the Art of the title released an interview with Daniel Kleiman about this. And? Did he apologize?

He apologized? He shot almost everything in there is practical. It's just composited optically. So even though it looks very CG, like... For some reason, the thing that bothers me the most is the woman who turns her head and then there's another woman's head, same woman, that bothers me. That's the Janus thing. Yeah, and then the opening of the mouth and the shooting of the Lugar out of the mouth.

It looks strange. It just looks weird. Yeah. There's something that bothers me about the way her neck comes together in a strange thing. little nub. Like an Adam's apple? Yeah, but like, we have problems. We have real problems. These are the things we're looking at.

It is a bit jarring to go from what would have been licensed to kill the last Maurice Bender one, which is all that flat monochromatic, or not monochromatic, but like there's no gradiation. Everything's the same type of flat colors into this kind of like more 3D world. And we've talked about it before, but I think that Tina Turner does a great job. Yeah, I like that song. You like that song? The lyrics make no sense to me.

I'm lukewarm on the song. I think she does a great job with it. Yeah. But I don't know, it doesn't bring me back. I like the little string plucks. Yeah, those are like. Yeah, those little pichotos. Horn section, very bond-like.

Yeah. Those are really the key elements for Bond song for me, which is why I didn't really take on Sam Smith's bond theme, very warmly. Yeah. I mean, maybe when I revisit it, it's strings, right? But not like, yeah, they're more, I need a hard horn hit. Yeah, I agree.

Hard horn hit. Oh, hello. What's that mean? Doors open. Your wife's escaping. See, I'll be right back. Later, guys. So, also, but I do like that it's the sort of the bond title sequence that

illustrates the fall of the iron curtain. Kleinman brings that into the bond titles that was never there before. He tells a story in most of his. Yeah. Well, die another day. This one... Every time you say the phrase, die another day. Spector does.

The song pops into my head. Yeah. Specter does. Skyfall does a bit. God, Skyfall's great. Yeah, that's a good. That's a good... That title sequence, that song.

that song that shirt is now she's rumored to be coming back for the next one if Craig does but that still sounds like a pretty big movie maybe she's modern day Shirley Bassie as far as the Bond franchise is concerned that would be a no-brainer to me that would be great

that'd be awesome she hits some notes that I just give me chills every time she does it yeah I think that the beauty of the song though is that you're getting that that brassiness with a voice that can just punch through the whole thing, which is what Tina Turner brings. I'm really glad Bono didn't sing it. Yeah, there is that demo out there, right?

Where he does? In fact, that's what Daniel Kleiman was given, I think, and it's like a six-minute version. I've never heard that. I think there is. Wow. Well, if you have it, let us know. Not you personally. You might have it.

Matt, let us know. If you have it, let us know. Stop holding on it. Matt, right in your chairs. Matt, could you write into the podcast and let us know that you may or may not have it? I'll never get the email. All right, so we open on this, I guess what I would call a car flirtation scene. A clertation.

A car flirtation. The music in the scene is brutal. It's the worst part of this movie, I think, is the, not to take anything away from, it's David Arnold, right? No, this is Eric Sarah, remember? Well, then, thank God. No, David Arnold. a welcome. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, I even. Remember, don't you remember when we get to the end of this movie, what we're in for?

Yes. We'll talk about that at the end. Yes. Incredible. This music's too dated. It was dated when it came out. Yeah, and I think that's a real problem because when you think back to the other James Bond movies, you get a little bit of it in the 70s. You get a little bit of it in the car. Yeah. That is so weird. That music was so weird. It's like a cartoon. not go with what is happening? God, what's happening?

Are we under attack? Probably a package. Jesus Christ, it's a bomb. Yeah, I ordered a live... Thank you. Goodbye. You are so proud of this. And I'm on Benadryl.

I can't believe that work. Could you imagine if Steve was fully aware of what's happening? Dead clean, straight. So, yeah, that says the Asin Martin DB5. of hearkening back to Goldfinger and you get a Ferrari. And I was reading for some reason about the production of that sequence and how hard it was to do for them because of how vastly different both of those cars handled. Oh, interesting. Yeah, because the Aston Martin is like this beautiful old car that has like 210 horsepower.

And then the Ferrari is this magnificently engineered brand new car with 450 horsepower. power. They had to, like, put shitty tires on the Ferrari. Oh. So that they're more comparable? Yeah. Oh, wow. They had, like, really dumbed down the Ferrari for it to work with the Asin Martin.

See, that's the kind of fun fact. You're not going to get on any other James Bond podcast. By the way, there's, like, one or two shots in that sequence where I am absolutely positive. There's a male stunt driver in a Bonka Jansen wig. It's probably because Remy Julianne did the effect. I mean, the stunts for this. Probably him or one of his sons. What do you think of the bicycle guys?

Nope. Cornball. Cornball, but I think Bond-esque. Very, yeah, yeah. Very Roger Moore era, like a holdover from that for sure. It's close to a pigeon double take as we get in the Brosnan era. No. There's got to be something.

Something worse? Something more corny, you think? There's got to be. Well, we'll be on the lookout for that. Yeah, we will. So far. I feel like something is coming. to mine. I can't think of it. I don't know.

I can't wait until we do it tomorrow. I ever dies. I really can't. Oh, boy. So then we go to the casino, and I don't care what movie, what Bond actor. I love a James Bond casino scene more than anything. It just, it gets my goose gumping. You love a good... I don't care what it is. Someone who's watched every James Bond movie multiple times and who's seen every casino scene multiple times. and who got married in a casino.

It's true. I have no clue how Baccarat works. I still have no clue. Read Casino Royale. He takes you on a like two-page primer on how it works so that you understand the movie. Still don't understand it. Tell me how it works. Tell me how it works.

But it's similar to Blackjack and that you have to get, I think, as close to a nine as possible. Nine or 19, maybe. And so then the face cards are worth one. I don't remember. It seems like someone just told me to read something that they read. No, I didn't say I remember. Seems like a game that everybody playing it is improvising. They're making up the rules while they're playing.

Suvie. Bunko. Du Huis Banc. Svi. Bunko. Fiv. Also, like, what are they playing with? Franks?

I don't know, but those cards they're playing with are as minimal as minimal as can be. There's nothing on the back and no numbers on the face of them. blew my mind when I was watching it for some reason because I just can't, it would take me five hours to play a hand of blackjacket. Just to figure out what you have. I mean, two, huge, three, I don't know, what is this? What do I have? Do I have bonko? Plyniko.

Yatsy. She's got a cigar. Is this pre-Lewinsky? It is, right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

And now, yeah, that's just interesting. I do like, however, that she orders a vodka martini shake and not stirred after Pierce Brosnan says it. Because you're like, fuck yeah, that sounds like a great drink right now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to have a couple tonight. By the way, I didn't know that was Bonka Janssen until way later. Really?

He looks different to me than she does. If she's got heavy makeup on. I screen grabbed her and Pierce Brosden making the, the two ugliest faces I've ever seen pretty people make. And I meant to post it and I didn't. So by the time this comes up, you'll just pop over to our Instagram and you'll... Do we have an Instagram account? No, we should, baby.

We've got to secure that before this episode goes up. Yeah. Someone's going to squat on that URL. When he leaves the casino, he just goes running through what is like a ballet pantomime outside. And even for Bond, maybe it's just having done enough theater at my time, I feel it's very rude to just run through someone's show no matter how French and balletic it is or pantomime. Even if it's ballet mimes, you feel like you shouldn't be able to run through that? I do think it's presumptuous of him because also those people are there to see whatever that is,

a ballet baby dog getting a flower from someone. Do you know what happened? No, I'll tell you why that was a good thing. That audience gathered and we're like, oh, there's going to be a little performance. performance here. It's great. It's great. It's great. Oh, okay. And then they see what the performance is. And they're like, shit, should we leave? Should we leave? Should we leave? We're going to see us. We can't leave. We're stuck here now. Fuck. Something needs to happen. He ran. He left. Let's go. We'll follow him. They should show the rest of that scene where everybody gets up and leaves. It's the worst, though, when you sit down for something like a street performer or something or you stand there. Yeah. And then they start and you're like, oh, this is not something I'm going to enjoy. But you're locked in. Yeah. You're not a rude guss. You know the great musician Steve Earl, right?

Yeah. Well, when he got out of prison, he was trying to rebuild his career. And so he did a performance at the Long Beach Tower Records. And right in the center of the store, and we went to see him, and we were the only ones there. And so we showed up right at the beginning, and it was just sort of awkward and strange, but we felt like we couldn't leave. So we're standing three feet from him, just me and my girlfriend at the time, watching Steve Earl do acoustic guitar set for like 45 minutes. Oh, my God. do the Darth Vader voice?

I don't think so. James Gerald Jones. That did not land well. No, no. I got it. I just wish that Matt had gotten it. He tagged me out next time. So let me ask this, Matt, in that situation, were

did anyone else, like, filter in or were you alone the entire time? The only other person there was the person from the now defunct radio station that was kind of like presenting it. Yeah, but he then went on to do great things. He was on the wire, and he was...

But did you feel... Were you a fan of his, and that's why you went, or were you into our records and were like, oh, I'll see him. No, no, I went to see him. I was sort of a fan, yeah. That's sort of... That's not enough to stand there. I've heard of this guy's name.

Let's go watch him. He's got two first names. Good enough for me. So what do we think of the fact that the ask St. Martin has a fax machine. Or a champagne chiller. The champagne chiller, 100% I buy.

Yeah, I like that. You know, there's a lot of, they sell, it's an option available in a lot of the bigger luxury sedans is a cooler in the middle of the seats. Like, it's a weird option. That was in a Toyota minivan in the 80s. They had a little, like, ice maker. Yeah.

That's true. How long are your fucking trips that you're needing an ice maker? Good question. Yeah. I don't know. If you know, please don't write in. Give it yourself. So that's the first we hear of the new money penny, Samantha Bond.

Yeah, she's good. She's great. She's really good. And, yeah, he gets a fax. He sends the picture, right? Yeah. Sends the picture of her, gets the fax with the information. And here's another part I don't understand of the plot of this movie.

The Admiral. that she's with, or colonel, what is he? Yeah, something, I'm not sure. She pulls rank. He's a commander. He's a commander. He was cast only for his sex death face, though. Which is great.

He plays a great corpse. Yeah. He reminds me of Jerry Blank's father and strangers of candy. Oh, my God. I was thinking of strangers to candy this morning. I was always thinking of strangers with candy. I quoted it when you went to the bathroom. Nice camel toe, Susie.

Remember how much? much you and I used to watch that? When the DVDs came out each time, we'd get together and watch this. It's the best. I have the Trapper Keeper set. Oh, so do I. I also own it on iTunes. I do too. It's the only show I own.

It's still in fucking standard definition. Yeah. Like, not widescreen. It's the only show I own all of it in iTunes. You kids haven't watched Strangers with Candy. Do yourself a favor. You're missing out. The best show. You get the just amazing

amazing performances out of, uh, Amy Siddris. Sammy's coming over, we're going to play some liars. We, I quoted it when we're in the Goldberg, we're writing in the Goldberg's room and

someone throws in a line of like, I got something to say. I got something to say. I got something to say. I'm like the only one in the room who like, yells it out like that. Oh, God. I don't think they know what I'm talking about.

I know where we can get it cinder block. Where from that? What's your favorite, what's your favorite episode of Strangel Candy? Oh, fuck. Mine by far is the one where she, like, traps Tammy Littlenut in the hotel. Yeah. What goes on in that one?

I'm trying to remember because I know that's the one I've watched the most. It's the baby one. The baby one, yes. Where they, for a homeck or whatever class, they have to pretend they have a baby for. Or I know they get an actual baby for a week. Yeah, that's right. And she becomes, like, kind of an abusive husband to taste a little. Yes.

Yes. My favorite is when Paul Donello's face. Yes, that's another one my favorite. Oh, God. That one's incredible. It's a fucking amazing. I like the glint one. Oh, yes.

The C-Hill. I can make drugs. And also the racism episode where they bring in Tim Meadows to counsel the school. I'm a black man and also an astronaut. That frightens you, doesn't it? Well, welcome to Jerry Blanking. Blanking. All right.

Sorry, that was a digression. But everyone go watch strangers with candy. Please. Well, we cut. Oh, but about the plot. The problem with the plot that I had regarding Admiral Guy. The person that she has been with the next day, is that a double? Oh, yeah.

I wondered about that, too. Like, it's not explained at all. Is it just the fucking plot to Thunderball, you know? Kind of. Where they pull the plastic surgery guy. They didn't really show. In fact, I remember remarking to myself that, like, oh, that must be a double and we're going to see that in a bit. And we don't do, yeah.

We don't see it. All right. Matt and. Matt and. Hey, there's a brand new show here at Earwolf. It's called Homophilia. And you should subscribe now. Homophilia is a show where Dave Holmes and Matt McConkey meet with fantastic LGBT celebrities and grill them about what they're loving.

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And if you like it, tell a friend. Then we cut to the computer ice station zebra or whatever, and we meet Boris and Natalia. Alan Cumming. Yeah. What do you think? Love him. Yeah. I love him as an actor always.

He's pretty over the top here, but it pretty much works. I think you have to be over the top because I don't think anyone else is over the top in this movie except on a top yeah yeah she's on the top over to top um and i like always always like peripheral henchmen being 50 times bigger than the actual villain yeah yeah he's good and he's good and he's he would not survive in today's workplace with all his sexual harassing i mean neither would bond for that matter but the fact that he just pops up on the screen he's called a misogynist in this episode i know yeah a few times sojourist dynastor yeah god that scene is so good. Sexist, misogynist dinosaur. That speech of M's is, of the Cold War. Is that one of the

best speeches in all of the Bond movies? Just delivery. I think the writing. Yeah, but it also ends with her saying, like, good luck. So she's not just a hard ass, but just her delivery on that and what it did for the series at the time. Completely. And you also totally forget about a world where Judy Deng doesn't completely 100% accepted as M. Right. Like, it's crazy. She has been in every James Bond movie since that. Yeah. She's been in every single one. Yeah, that's right.

I was, yeah, I didn't even remember that when she popped up. I was like, has she been doing this since this movie? Yes. That is so crazy to me. I just love that. She says, you think I don't have the balls, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's, I'm just pure writing.

Is there a better speech? Like there's Silva's monologue. As far as actual speeches go, like writing in a Bond film. Yeah. Because Bond very rarely gets like a monologue. I bet you could put all of James Bond's dialogue from all 24 movies together into a script and it would not be a full-length movie. Right. Because he talks so little.

It doesn't have to. I mean, a villain usually good. It's usually heavy exposition. This one is just all character. It's really good. Yeah. So, yeah, Dame Judy Dench, we salute you. Welcome to the Fold.

Yeah. Boris's Russian hacking character is more timely than ever right now, and it was weird to watch it in the context. It is, you know, I find it all very strange to watch all of the old Russian stuff now. Yeah. It's, we're in a fucking crazy time. Whatever do you mean? You know, I just mean the fact that we're between bonds,

and we haven't had a movie out in so long. I just feel like we... Hack that, Russia. Meadails. Keyboard. But people are hacking HBO now. Oh, it's to escape elite. I mean, weitzibble.

Lughead. Lughead? Is that what he's saying? Yeah. All right. Slughead. Slughead. Slughead.

Slughead. He's Russian. He's Russian. Slughead. He even like, he even name checks borshished at one point, doesn't he? Yes, he does. Yeah. He's doing the best he can.

He says borsh. Like, is it like in, you bet you're borshti. Yeah. That felt like it was straight out of 60s Batman. That was horrible. You know who I love in this movie? I absolutely love is Tanner. She feels like he comes to work because that's all he has.

His wife has left him. He was just that like middle manager in the MI6 office. And he's just slightly disheveled. And it feels like he's barely holding it together. I love that. Absolutely. And the scene, that just reminded me of Bond in World Isn't Enough when he's pissed at Tanner. He's like, Tanner, get over here.

And he wants to get on the case. He pulls him aside and he's just getting so much shit. He gets all the shit. I feel like he gets the shit from everybody. He does. Yeah, he's the whipping boy. But this is what I think is a strong argument for doing a universe of Bond and not going for the obvious choices. but I want to see Tanner's life after hours and he goes home, does a microwave dinner.

Swanson's hungry, man. Or he goes to, like, have you ever been to London and they have those, like, kind of sleazy kino casinos where you can go in and they just, like, people are smoking like crazy. And he just goes to that for hours. And, you know, I spent my child's education fun, but it doesn't matter because she doesn't talk to me. How annoying would it be to cut something out of this podcast where it was better to say something to you right now? What? I'm asking you how annoying it would be.

Otherwise, I'll just wait until after the show's over. You want to say something off record? Yeah. Racist. If it'd be annoying, I'll just talk about it afterwards. Yeah, I don't want to edit, but don't forget. Done. Okay. We'll just not forget.

All right. Boy, the listener, you know. Now the listeners know Matt's racist, but they don't know to which group. Oh, thank God you actually cut that. I'm sorry I couldn't hold back, Matt. Whenever you're talking about these white middle management. I can't believe it. That's courtesy to a fellow podcaster right there.

Every single thing about Natalia's style in this movie just gets my ovaries going. Yeah. I think it's because that's what girls look like when I was in college, you know, and it just... I do, I do love a tight skirt situation. And her hair? And a nice sweater. Yeah. She's somehow like...

She's a bond girl I could take home to Mama. Yeah, she's... She's classy, yet very sexy. She's got it all. She's smart. She knows how to handle a pistol. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Oh, speaking of that. Yeah. I was thinking about that. Bond's weapon of choice, right? Walter P.P.K. Yes, sir. Took a break in the Brosnan years. That's another ding on the Brosman era, but comes back for Daniel Craig.

But at the point in Specter, when he's using this, and I researched this, the gun is 88 years old. It was designed in 1929. Uh-huh. That would be the equivalent of Sean Connor using like a cult peacemaker and Dr. No. That's how old that gun is. How awesome would that be? Well, I mean, Roger Moore uses that Smith & Wesson. I always use a cult peacemaker.

Man with the golden gun on the novel did. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, that is an old, old gun at this point. It's an old gun, but it's a small compact gun. They still sell plenty of them. Yeah. They still make it. I got eight.

Wow. I've never fired. Have you? Take one. I don't think so. We should do that. I used to have a little, like... Let's go to Rooker's gun range.

Let's do it. Who? Michael Rooker. Oh, would he have us over for a podcast? Maybe. We could do a... He's a nut. I love it.

That's great. He's like co-owner of one of the biggest outdoor gun ranges in California. Really? Yeah. Up in the valley. Yeah. Rooker's 10-acre gun? That's what it's called.

Rooker's 10-acre gun shoot. Yeah. I heard of that. You heard it? You heard of your gun shooting? That's weird. No rules gun range. No rules gun range.

That's right. Yeah. Every single M office in this franchise gets my engine purring. Even this modern one. They still manage to wood panel it, even though they did it more modern. I mean, I'll still take the old classic M style, but this one looks really good, too. I like a tinted glass covered bookcase. Yeah.

You know. Yeah, that's good. I also just enjoyed that, like, she had beautiful windows, and you could see out into London. They're drinking bourbon. Do they, does classic M ever drink with Bond? In Goldfinger. Goldfinger, yeah. It felt weird to be like, your predecessor left, kept a bottle of cognac in that drawer.

Like, she hadn't moved this person's stuff out of the office by now. Well, maybe he left it as a legacy thing. I'd like to think that. There's some honor among, yeah. All right. Thanks, Matt. Thanks for solving that problem. I have a fun idea.

Let's hear it. What if Michael Wilson's cameo changed every time you watched one of these movies? Who's Michael Wilson? He's one of the producers, but he's in almost everyone in the film, like in the background or something. He's usually pretty obvious. I think he stands out, mostly because of his mustache. Yeah, or his voice is very nasally. Oh, yeah, when he does speak, yes.

Yeah, because he's not English. But that would be amazing if he was, like, just revolving cameos. Like they did different editions like Clue, different endings. In the same movie? Yeah. He would change throughout the movie, depending on what version. Like you could activate the Michael G. Wilson filter on the, on the Blu-ray, and occasionally you'd get every scene that he was in. So you'd be watching a movie in every scene.

Yeah. And then sometimes he's just playing Bond. See, that to me is a reason. Your predecessor kept about Cognac in the drawer. Sir. You have to. Eurisaxus massaginous dinosaur. He played M2.

This guy's amazing. Yeah. Come back alive, Bond. Yeah, Bond, come back alive. You think I don't have the balls to send a man off to dive? Mon, can you hand me my nasal spray that my predecessor left for me? Oh, that's straight up, David Lynch. I need my Vick's vapor inhaler.

Could you turn on the dehumidifier when you come in the room? It's too much to ask? I read the briefing. I wrote it. I read it. I wrote it. It has a certain pro style. If you haven't noticed, I'm trying to flower it up a little since my predecessor was so cold.

Anyway, how did I get this job? I'm an American. Did you notice how fucking enormous Q's hands are? No. I think he's got inflammation or something in this movie. They are meat hooks. No, that was a submarine sandwich. That wasn't one finger?

No. Oh, I had it wrong. You imagine what a terrible disease. All five of my fingers are submarine sandwiches. What a delicious disease. Look, I'm not knocking Desmond Luoyle. God knows I love that man. But if you haven't watched this film and are going to watch it after this,

just pay close attention to the size of his hands in this movie. I didn't notice. Oh, it's ridiculous. I think that his, well, when did he stop learning the script? I think early on. But this one, you feel it. It also might be that his eyes don't really have a lot of white left to them. What do you mean?

Like, he's all iris? Yeah, because you can't quite tell what he's looking at. Does he all cataract? The late grade, Desmond. We love Desmond Llewellyn on his podcast. And I actually welcome his line issues because they add an element of fun to those scenes. Yes, but like you can't, the line of sight for him is constantly off. And you assume, you just assume that he's like reading cue cards.

but there's also a decent chance that his eye line is just off. Yeah, he is kind of looking in a strange direction at times. Yeah. I find that odd. It's just so sad, too. We've talked about this before that he did it for so long and that he didn't even die of old age.

He died of a car accident. Like, if that accident hadn't happened, he could have at least probably completed the Brazzan era. Oh, that would be amazing. But bully on them for beautifully writing him out. I know. That's another good little speech. It's not a great speech.

speech. I mean, I like it. Never let them see you bleed. You've never said that in the entire franchise. You've had 18 movies to that point where you could have picked a line of dialogue for him. Yeah. Always having an escape plan makes total sense. I mean, he's never said that, but that's essentially what Q does is make escape plans for Bond by building things that allow him to escape. But never let them see you bleed is just like, what? Who said that? Right. He loved a good stirred martini, though.

and a good turd star meaning now we meet Joe down Baker I'm sorry but like those scenes in there in you know with all the gadgets is it always that joky I don't remember it for the Roger Moore there was like John Hughes level shit

in the background like the guy getting like naked gun level in the phone booth when the airbag comes in and then like it reminds me of a naked gun And then later you see them hauling the phone booth out and the guy still smashed in it. That's so John Hughes. Yeah.

Yeah. I like the young guy that replaced it. Yeah. He's great. What did you think of John Cleese's short tenure? For those movies, especially for Die Another Day. Why not? You know, and he's great.

There's a series called London Spy that is really good. And Ben Wishaw's in it. I highly recommend. I wish I was a fabulous actor. Did you see Matt Holness's spy thing? No, I didn't even heard of it. I feel like, I could be wrong, but I feel like it was only released on VHS. Was it pre-Dark place?

No, this was like maybe four years ago, three or four years ago. Rob Schrob bought it online and we watched it. It's awesome. Like a little spy. I got to see that movie, but it's... If there's something... Only released on VHS. Rob Shrop has it.

I think it's only VHS. Oh, I forgot to mention so, because this film is scored by Eric Sarah, and it's so, like, it's violently missing John Barry. I watched The Specialist with Sylvester Stallone and Sharon Stone. That has a John Barry score, and it had to have been one that he had just sitting around, because there are times when it gets so bond. I'd really like somebody to take the score from the specialist and put it on Golden Eye and see how it works. It's so strange to watch a shitty Sylvester Stallone movie and then have some brilliant John Barry melody. How would you even go about getting the scoreless copy of the movie? Or the score to the specialist.

That I feel like you can find on vinyl or something. I don't know, but isn't there a David Arnold version of Golden Eye that somebody did or something? I don't know. Again, I just love the franchise. I'm not an expert. I'm a lover. Are you with me? I sure am.

We meet Jodon Baker. A gun for George? That was incredible. I'm pretty sure it's only on VHS. I love that guy. Jodon Baker. Yeah, let's talk about Jodon Baker. Let's talk about his tattoo, Muffy,

and how that's another spinoff opportunity to me. A spinoff movie about Muffy. I love Jodon Baker in this. Yeah. But it's a poor replacement for Felix Lider. Even if Jodon Baker's playing him. At the end, of license to kill. What is Felix's

physical state? He's got I think one arm and one leg like the books. Oh, I read the Felix Leiter comic book. The first issue anyway. It's pretty good. It's, you know, it moves super quick because it's just a lot of like kind of intense visual stuff. Do they have any panels where like

they just interact with James Bond very quickly? He does interact with James Bond. What do you think of Joe Don Baker, Steve? Who is Joe Don Baker? He plays Wade, the American CIA. Oh my God. Yeah. But he's two movies away from having played a villain in a Bond movie. He was the bad guy, Brad Whitaker, and Living Daylights. Oh. And they just brought him back as a different character.

He's awesome. Why do you think he wasn't just Felix Leiter? Why make him Wade? I think probably because he played a villain in Living Daylights. And maybe he's too comedic for Felix Leiter. He's too much of a slub or something. Although, I mean, you got C. Slender and Goldfinger, who's no prior spoofing. From what I hear from Jonah, Ray, Jonah Baker,

is not a huge fan of the mystery science theater treatment. He did not quite understand the joke. Really? I'm always thrown by Mini Driver in this movie. Yeah, that was weird. I was like, is that Mini Driver? But this time it made me think I got to get her for I was there, too, to talk about this film. That would be amazing.

Robbie Coltrane appears. Oh, he's great. I love him. That character, I feel like, at least for the Brazen era, is as established as a Felix lighter. I wouldn't mind in Craig's era to bring back the character. Yeah, sure, but he's dead. Right, that's right.

But I will say that I think Robbie Coltrane is just delightful. Yeah, he's really good. This movie has a lot of great peripheral actors, just a lot of great ensemble pieces. I think that's another sort of unsubting about Martin Campbell is casting. He's really good at casting. everybody's good in this movie so the thing about Robbie Coltrane's character though is that he

I love that you get this backstory with Bond and Robbie Coltrane and the fact that he I my favorite line in the movie is when Joe Don Baker's talking about his limp and James Bond's like

who do you think gave him the limp yeah that's a good one it's great yeah The one that was a little too much. And he mentions it too when he's Walter PPP. Especially when it's cold. My leg aches every day.

Let me ask you something. When Bond and Natalia are no Bond and Anatopper in the car and she delivers him to that place, he knocks her out with one of those karate chop back in the next thing. One of those classic. And I got to say, Roger Moore Patton. Yeah. I want to know, because that trope is basically run its course.

You don't see that as much in movies anymore. People aren't buying it. Right. What's the first? and the last karate chop back of the neck knockout. I'm sure this isn't the last, but this is probably around the time when it's dying down. Probably around 2000. It is such a...

That's so weird. Like, there seems to be like some sort of nerve point. It's the... But no human has ever been really knocked out by the way. Well, it's the equivalent of the Vulcan neck pin. Yeah, exactly, yeah. You know, and I'd almost buy that more. Yeah, well, that's at least sci-fi.

Like, that's a massage move. Yes, I've seen a masseuse do that many times. Yeah. knock someone out oh shit sorry another example of Campbell's

filmmaking that I love is the like smash cut to Bond waking up with Natalia screaming in the helicopter I really like that that was great where are we what are we doing that was great very good I also like the half a second

where Bond is taking everything in and he immediately like seems to be immediately comfortable with the situation he's in And looking and he sees them to... With a giant ejector button right next to my head. Whoever designed that cockpit, it's crazy. Ergonomically, it's possibly the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

If you're trying to keep a helicopter floating, if you're trying to floating, flying, which in and of itself... You can't have an injector. It is so not stable as it is. Right, your head's going to be bobbing back and forth. Helicopters punch physics in the mouth. Helicopters are flying in spiking.

They're like bees. They shouldn't be able to fly. And you all the time are having to keep two hands on the yoke. Again, I'm saying yoke. I don't know why, but I am. Honestly, I'd have to, like, hit it with the back of my hand. I probably couldn't put enough pressure on it. I'd have to turn awkwardly.

I'd probably twist, like, what's left of my lower back. I'd probably die. I wouldn't have a chance. I would die. I wouldn't be able to eject. Well, thank God you. Well, you would, because there would be a giant ejector seat button next to your head. In fact, you would eject accidentally, probably right when you took off.

So you're saying it's just hard. It's just a hard head hit that's going to cause it to happen because even that angle looks odd. Like, it looks like Pierce Broson is barely going to get there. Yeah, he has to give it, try a few times. But also, isn't that going to just shoot you into the blades of the helicopter? No, because it showed the helicopter blades detach first, right? Oh, okay. The whole thing felt like something that they put into the script and like, oh.

They wrote themselves into a situation. Or they're like, this is essentially what we'll do, but we'll fix it later. and then never got to it. Yeah. But it's still the end effect of... It's big and red. Right next to your head. And then...

Just in case your hands are tied. What do you think of the reveal of Alec? That's good. It's good. It's an interesting, like, place they are with the old statues and stuff. It's kind of thematically cool. Like it?

I like Sean Bean. Yeah. Oh, my God. I love Sean Bean. Yeah, he's good. He could have been a bond. I think he was considered. at one point.

Really? Yeah. In fact, that's why they went for him in this role because it was like the anti-matter bond. You know who it was going to be if it wasn't Pierce Brosnan,

right? The studio's choice? Wink Martin Do? Paul McGahn. Paul McGahn. He played Doctor Who in the Fox Doctor Who TV movie from the mid-90s.

He was the studio's choice for James Bond and he was the contingency plan for if Pierce, Broson, couldn't do it. Ah, he's got a good look. He's kind of gruff.

I would also buy Sean Bean as, like you were talking earlier, an old James Bond. Yeah. Ed Stark? Hello. I think Paul McGahn looks awesome. I didn't know this. He kind of looks like a young Alan Rickman. Oh, yeah.

I could see that for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. James. Joseph Chicago. People listening are not going to know what we are from. I'm doing Alan Rickman. Is it not clear? No.

Shut up. You're doing Daddy Warbucks. Or P. Played Danny Warmock. Yeah, that's right. Well, we're almost to the iconic scene from this movie, which is... The halfway place. That's a big problem for Bond movies in general is the third act slog. And I was trying to think about Bond movies that get that done successfully, and there's not a ton.

It's set piece, set piece. piece, set piece. That's the problem with it. I think the best ones that get it done right are the ones that use character building in the third act. So like Skyfall works really well because he's on the road with Judy Dench and we're not getting a huge action sequence

for a while but we're learning about the relationship and it doesn't feel long. Casino Royale handles it really well but is so long a third act. Casino Raal ends, we've talked about it, ends twice. It does. It does. It does feel long but I still think it does it well. But I do notice the third act. Skyfall, I don't

really notice the third act. I'm with it. The Roger Moore third acts and the Connery third acts are pretty rough. I think that the other interesting thing that I noticed about this is that the bond movies of the late 80s into the 90s, I feel like there's a lot of a lot of shoe leather. You know what I mean? A lot of like people walking places without using editing to get mean like literally like in by who love me they're walking through the desert or quantum solace they're walking through there's a lot of like stuff we can lose like I don't need this establishing shot of the computer store with her also walking into the computer store and opening

the door of the computer store and going into the computer store I don't need it really drags if you know the film too because you're still going like we haven't even gotten to Cuba yet yeah and that's the whole really third act you know when I got to Cuba when I was watching it last night or the night before rather, they got to Cuba and I was like, I forgot. I forgot all that interior stuff happened in Cuba. Yeah. I forgot they had to go to Cuba. Yeah. It doesn't help that it comes on the heels of the

tank chase, which is amazing. That was great. It's superb. Tank chase is such a good, I think it's the second best chase in the James Bond movie. Oh boy. I don't know about that. What would you put first?

I would put the Quantvo of Solis opening chase. Well, I would put that one ahead of the Tank Chase, for sure, but I'm trying to think if there's another. I actually love the car chase. It's a one car chase in Voodoo. I love it. It's a car tier. But it's incredible.

Okay, so you need two. I need two vehicles. Well, I mean, he's technically chasing a boat. I'll allow it. But there's also the four-year-eye's only car chase is pretty good. That tank, though. Yeah, maybe. Just going so fast.

I guess you're right. It's on asphalt, so it's sloth. It can't get traction. That first turn into the building where it tries to make it into that like under archway and it just barrels through the bricks. Also, it's like I think Campbell's doing like some Spielbergian action here because you think when he hits that pedestal and the horse statue rides on top of the tank like this is just there for a joke. But it ends up becoming that kind of like Spielberg cause and effect thing where it hits the bridge drops down and knocks out two police cars. So it actually has a purpose. and so it's comedic but also kind of useful.

Yeah, it's really good. Obviously, the music helps. It's the first time we feel like we're getting in the score. And we have time in this chase for the guy being chased to kind of turn into the drunk guy from Moonraker. Just swept from his flask and like a, oh, boy. He just turns into a full-on alcoholic. I love that he's doing comedy at that point. I like the reveal, too, of when you first see the tank just bust through that wall behind them.

Oh, it's so good. It's way bigger than you even would have thought. Because you see him see the tank and you know, all right, he's going to use the tank, but you probably think he's just going to shoot up the place. He could have shot that train, yeah. When they are in the train and it's about to blow up and they escape, do you know? I really like. Well, I have a couple things.

You don't. I like it. I like the little-looking train. Yeah, I like the layer of a train. But when they run out of that train because it's about to explode, did you notice that, like, they pop out of that ground vent? he goes first. Like he doesn't even get out.

Well, he's got to save the world. Here's something, if you haven't watched the film, two things to look for. The size of Q's hands. And when the gunfight happens on the train and Brosnan goes to, is he trying to shut the door or open the door? Do you remember that moment? He makes a little Brosnan noise. And this is part of my problem with Brazen's bond is he fits in these little noises where

other bonds wouldn't. So look for this when he goes to do this. and he goes and he grabs the door handle and he just makes this little... No. What do you describe it as hurt acting, right? Yeah. That's your phrase.

Because also when on a top is squeezing him, he's going, and his jaw is just convulsing. It's really particularly noticeable because you're dealing with a henchman that kills with her legs. I guess, but like it does go to my theory that the other Bond actors

could kind of walk away from Bond and be okay. and he wants it a little bit. It's like that Anne Hathway or Joseph Gordon-Levett have. You can see their desire to act is bigger than what the character needs. Like, they're having a little too much fun. That's interesting. And I applaud them. I like that they're having fun.

And when he's driving the tank, it's the good kind. Like, you can see Brazen's going like, I'm fucking James Bond. And it feels great. I'm driving a fucking team. It's really fun to watch. But there are times when he's getting hurt. When he straightens his tie, I made the okay sign. Yeah, me too.

I think it's the tie straightening underwater. Tie straightening was great. The tie straightening underwater is ridiculous. Because the tie straightening in the tank is like, that's no worse than Craig straightening his cufflinks in the train. It all works. I like the James Bond still wants to look good. Yeah. Do you remember when they were shooting Casino Royale and no one knew a lot about Daniel Craig or how he would be?

And then that rumor or report came out that he had broken a rib. Yeah. And I was like, what a pussy. I was like, this guy. And then I was like, he's, then I saw the movie. I'm like, he's the fucking best. Yeah, he's the best. I mean, when you're doing take after take of, I bet they had him run.

I bet you're right, man. I bet they wanted him to run out of that layer. You're right. I never put that together that he probably is just. I bet they wanted him to run out of that layer. And he's probably just like, I fucking tore my ACL. Or even everyone is like, you got to, we're going to make sense of this. Even if everyone is in agreement.

Like, you need to do this as a bad ass. Yes, Walker. Yeah, you're probably right. Walker. I can't wait until Daniel comes back on the pod. In The Man Sings Bullets? I researched Golden Eye, because I knew that the name had come. He named his estate after his intelligence operation he did to work with Gibraltar in Spain,

but I wondered why that operation was called Golden Eye, and I couldn't find anything. But do you know Bob Marley bought Golden Island? I didn't know that after for like a year? No. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm sure you in Fleming would have loved that. Dig it mine.

I say, who's going to own this off to me? Well, it's a, it's a reggae superstar. Come again? A lot of marijuana. What now? Yes, he's going to be all over your estate. He'll be smoking marijuana. With all his music friends.

Oh. Do you think? Do you think he ever smoked a joint through the long cigarette? Oh, that would be amazing. On golden ice. God damn it, Bob Marley, if you're out there. I know you are. I'm having a three-four jazz cigarette.

Three-foot jazz cigarette. I love it. Oh. I love it. You're creative, man. Thanks, Jeff Bridges. That was... That hand-to-hand fight with Alec and Bond.

Great. is that's another like it's directed so well. It's really well choreographed too. It's really like a, it's an evenly matched fight because they both have the same training. It's so good. Like that team pumped me up and then they get out on that gantry and that ladder and then Brosnan drops and starts making those noises. What do you look at him?

What an insane tumble he takes and we're somehow supposed to believe he still hangs on to a ladder. Yeah, it reminds me of when Luke falls out of Bespin. Yes, but. With one arm. Yeah. Hear me. Leah. Help.

He's falling. down to a similarly sized. Although Luke also is using... By the way, it's the same face he makes when he hurts his shoulder in the world is not enough. Yeah. When he again falls down the Millennium Dome. Oh, that may be the worst of the Brosnan hurt acting.

Well, he's supposed to have ripped his shoulder apart, right? I think, yeah. Wouldn't you be hurt? No, I'm great. Matt's known for his good shoulders. That's right. I got four of them. Yeah.

All right. I want to talk about this song at the end. Is there anything else we need to discuss about the movie itself? I like him getting frozen with nitro. Oh, that, whatever, that prosthetic, Alan coming at the end is pretty, uh... Reminds me of, I feel like they saw Terminator 2. Like, we should use that stuff. And don't see a way in which James Bond jumps off of that platform onto that

helicopter because the blades of that helicopter would be hitting the thing that he's on and would blow up. Yeah, it doesn't seem how he could be close enough to do that. Yeah. Also, what do you think of the fact that Alec Trevely and somehow survives the fall? Just to have the thing fall on him? I like that. I mean, it is, yeah.

I like the way he falls. Like, I love how severely broken his leg obviously is. His landing is pretty brutal. They shoot it at lower level and he falls in. to frame. That's pretty cool. Yeah. All right. All right. Let's talk about it. The Experience of Love by Eric, Sarah.

No. The experience of love. So far, I'm following you. This song, it's like a blight on the history of Bond films. It's awful. Do we have any examples of Bond films using multiple songs? Yeah, because Living Daylights ends with that Pretender's ballad. Yes.

And then tomorrow, is it Tomorrow never died? that has surrender. The amazing Katie Lang song at the end. And the Cheryl Crow song, which is even more fantastic. Yep. No.

Yep. Everything about that movie is backwards. That movie, you should start that movie from the end and then leave five minutes. I think that the movie as a whole. I'm not done with the experience of love. That's a horrible song.

This song is like, The experience. It's like, you know how Gallagher's brother took his act? This feels like... I don't know. Was given his act. Whatever. It feels like Peter Gabriel gave his younger, dumber brother a song and said,

sing it. And that's what this is. Yeah. I agree. I was shocked at how I didn't like that song at all. It's so out of place. It's so weird. Yeah.

If you walked into the movie theater, like you showed up so early to the next showing that you were seeing the credits from the previous movie you'd be like this is a Demi Moore movie oh we're not in a I'm in the wrong I'm in a romantic drama with Demi Moore yeah and yes Woody Harrelson and Robert Redford no it's not that one it's called decent proposal where he is oh her husband's a good proposal proposes to her it's a prequel decently yeah okay yeah Robert Redford for, he's in the background in one scene. And you see him doing this, stroking his chin and go,

hmm. Hey, pal, you think I should ask him if I could sleep with his wife for $800,000? Is that what it was for, 800,000? I thought it was a million. I thought it was a million, pal. Oh, yeah. I'm just setting up the sequel. One million dollars.

The credits of this movie are short because they're still doing so many credits up front. You just don't get that in movies these days. Because I listen to this whole song and I noticed how quickly it went. You only get these pre-credit credits with James Bond that are so detailed. Yeah, yeah. But overall, I really enjoyed this film. Obviously, it's the best Brosnan, so it wasn't difficult. I have always enjoyed Golden Eye.

It's those later ones that are tough, but it was a pleasure to watch. Here's a new thing I'd like to introduce. Please. A rating system. Oh. Where we rate each movie on a scale of 001 to 007. That's brilliant. Oh my God, that's great.

How did... How'd that escape you the first season? I don't know. So... I would say, Matt, you're so dumb for not thinking of that before, but I never thought it. Well, here we are. We're here with a new season and a new twist. So this is the new segment.

I just also would like to remind people that we are also concerned... We are also thinking about doing an entire episode based on who the most British person in All of Games Bond is. The answer for the most British person to appear in this film. I have to say Desmond Llewellynne. Desmond and Llewellynne? Yeah, I think. Tanner's not that British, but I think the most... No, the girl in the car flirtation, she's pretty British.

Oh, the psychiatrish. She's a really British. Smallbone? No, that's Moneypenny's assistant. Chief Smallbone? No. Chief Smallbone of the Iroquois try. I was third in line. Chief, I'm sorry about that name.

I'm not. Many moons. have gone by. It's ironic. I'm a big bone chief. What is her name? You need to stop that right now. What is her name?

I don't know, but she's pretty British. It's down to her a dozen. The evaluator. Yeah. You know what? Let's give it to her. So, 000 to 007.

Yep. 0.07, of course, is the best. I guess I'd go I'd go. I'd go 04.5 for this, I think. I'll say a double 04. I have to

I agree with all of us. I think it's a 004. It could have gone up to five if it didn't seem long. If it was shorter, if it was short? Definitely, definitely. Yeah.

It's a double four for me. And it got a video game. Yeah. Yeah. And it's named after a house. You don't get many movies like that. Skyfall. I guess so, yeah.

Two James. Oh, you're a very. I'm getting a great one. I know there's a lot of chart makers out there who like making spreadsheets. Let's start it right now. Yeah. We appreciate that. Holdenai gets a 004.

That's right. And you're giving it a 4.5. You're very welcome to do that. Yeah, I'd like to give it a fat for it. I like it. I don't think I'll be as charitable to the other Brosnan's. Matt, as is the new tradition on James Bonding. We're not going in any particular order.

We're going to trade off back and forth. Who gets to pick the next film? I picked Golden I, of course, and now, Ena, Gourle, it is your chance to pick. What will we all be watching for next episode? Now, I considered Living Daylights because the 30th anniversary came up, and I like that film.

But actually, I'm going to get to business. I'm going to cover something that's been a long time coming. We're going to have Amanda Lawn and Maria Blasucci back, and we're going to talk Goldfinger. Goldfinger. Yep. And we're going to have some fun. and cover that movie from a different angle than it was covered last time.

Sure. Well, Allie and Georgia sometimes aren't on board with some ass slapping. Did they not know anything about Bond? Oh, they hated it. But not a valid point. Yeah, and it was good to cover it from that angle, but we're going to approach it more from the sort of just enjoying Bond angle this time. But I'm glad we'll have both.

Goldfinger, golden eye. And with a golden gun then. Yeah. And goldfall. And John Goldfarb. And Goldraker. Quantum of gold. But next week you will have our James Bond theme park special where we break down.

Next week you will, yes. We break down what a James Bond theme park might include, could include. And actually, even before we discussed that we were doing this, some stuff came for instance, the Planet Coaster Moonraker ride that someone created, plus the actual James Bond ride that did exist, licensed to thrill. So we'll talk a little bit about those, but also, and more importantly, discuss what we would want to see in a James Bond theme park. Nice.

Very exciting. So tune in next week. Paul Shear will be with us. Hope you all enjoy the Roger Moore tribute. But also please subscribe if you haven't. Write a review in iTunes. That helps us out and bump that star rating up to 007. You know what?

If you'd like to... We're going to have a social media person coming in, but something I like to do is we're going to have the MI6 Wall of Honor. And what we'll do is if you write a five-star review, we will happily read your review on the air. Wait a minute. It's not for everyone. Not every five-star review,

but you will have a chance to be picked for the Wall of Honor. Yeah, get creative. And every other week when we're not covering a movie, we will read our favorite seven. You'll make the MI6 Wall of Honor. I sure hope we remember to do this. I'll remember to do this. Okay.

And our new social media person who's somewhere in our email box will be helping us with it. That's right. Steve, thanks for joining us. You have a new podcast. Why don't you tell us all about it? I have a new podcast at Farrell Audio

called We're No Doctors that I co-host with my co-hypochondriac neurotic friend, Busy Phillips. And you guys are doctors. right? No, we're no doctors. We talk a lot about health and medicine, despite knowing nothing about either. We're just too neurotic hypocondriac. It's a great concept and it's doing very well. It's doing crazy good. Yeah, really. Is this been therapeutic for you? Because every time I talk to you, you think you're dying. I've had Adam Goldberg, who is, you know, from saving private Ryan and

dazed and confused. He's been on my podcast, my first podcast, a couple of times because he also suffers from Vertigo. And so I would always say, we should do a podcast where we talk about this and never really happened. And I was just like, I can't undertake another podcast. And then it was my girlfriend who, my ex-girlfriend who was like, you really should do a podcast about all this crazy shit you talk about. And then I took it to Farrell in there like, you should have a female co-host.

We want you to have a female co-host. And then I saw busy Phillips post an Instagram. story about her freaking out in a MRI machine. And I was like, I think I found the house. Jeez, awesome. That's great. Wow. So you have a guess and you just discuss your medical worries?

Sometimes guests, but we talk about, like we talk about, we'll have a whole, episode three just came out and it's all about pooping. That's great. And it's my least favorite talk. I hate anything to do with poop. So it was pretty funny. Does anyone ever write in with? asking for medical advice?

Because you guys are doctors? We pre-recorded like six episodes, so that hasn't happened yet. But yeah, there's a good way to go. There's an email and everything on the Instagram. You can check it out. We're no doctors on the Farrell Audio Network. And if you haven't already, we highly recommend you download our back catalog. That's right.

Do that because even by this point, you've probably only got a week or so left to get it before it goes behind the Stitcher paywall. Go get it. But also subscribe to Stitcher because we'll be providing. some commentaries to Bond films in the future. That are going to end up exclusively. On Stitcher. Behind a paywall.

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great jumping on point, and we've got great guests like Justin McElroy. I sat like a fancy college professor. Fake nuts. Rachel Bloom. You all see my collection of men, corpses, and one woman. Felicia Day and Colton Dunn. You've seen me have

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Season three, a hello from the magic tavern, is out now. Listen in Stitcher, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.