James Bonding - Goldfinger with Amanda Lund and Maria Blasucci

Episode Date: June 28, 2023

Our old pals Amanda and Maria return to the show. This time we discuss the 1964 classic Goldfinger. Matt's wigdar is put to the test and a special appearance from Matt Gourley's dad! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Yeah, I think so. Amanda Lund and Maria. Abla Succi. Thanks for having us, Matt. So great to be back. Welcome. How are you guys? I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah, I'm fine.

Where are you in living your Bond lifestyle? God, that's a good question. I guess I'm... Honestly, I'd like to travel more, like Bond and with greater amenities like Bond would. And in a first class kind of way. Sure. Where would you go? Top choice bond vacation.

Oh, you know what actually? I was thinking about this, as I was watching Goldfinger, I was thinking there should be a coffee table book, The World Seen Through Bond films, because they always have different places they go to. All the exotic locations. All the exotic locations or just, and it would just be a picture book.

Yeah. Of just different parts of the world seen through Bond films. It's a great idea. Yeah, I like that. Or a travel blog, like a travel website. Bond travel blog. Yeah. There are a couple things like that.

Living the lifestyle of James Bond and then going to those places and seeing the like locations from the films and stuff like that. But to answer your question, though, and I think we touched on this on Casino Royale, when I saw Casino Royale and they go to Montenegro, I was like, I was like that's that I need to go there. And then we talked about how that's not actually Montenegro at all. No, we looked it up, didn't we? It was like $10,000 a night for like the villa. Oh, no, that was the golden I. The Bahamas or the Jamaican place. This was...

Oh, the suite in the Bahamas. The villa in the Bahamas that he stays at. But the Montenegro they show in Casino Real is actually like the Czech Republic. So if I were to just go to Montenegro now and I would be looking around for a place that doesn't exist. Yeah, I'm sure it's still nice, though. I don't know much about it. We looked up that hotel last night that he passes. The Alpine.

The fountain blue is the Miami one, which my dad told me to watch it with my dad that he stayed there. It's pretty run down. It's still there. We looked at that alpine hotel. Oh, the one he's like, when he goes into the, is it Switzerland? Yeah. And he's driving down the winding road. There's like this little isolated hotel on the cliff.

And I looked it up. It's still there. But it doesn't look that nice. People think the rooms need to be updated. That's the consensus. Yeah. I bet they're right. But Matt and I are going to take an Alps trip.

Yes. You're welcome to come. come with us, man. Either way. Well, Marie and I are going to Montenacro. Yeah. Whatever, guys. It's not the Czech Republic.

You guys were on our Casino Royale episode. You were on our License to Kill episode, which the four of us were trying to remember a single thing about. We remember a lot about the Casino Royale episode, but Maria just remembered that the planes had faces. Planes had faces in this movie, too. Oh, I guess we'll get to that, huh? Well, there was one shot of a plane.

I guess all those propeller planes have faces. Well, yeah, the... Kind of, yeah, they have the nose and the intake. It's like... Well, planes are birds. That's true, they are. But this one has, like, a smile. It has that big nose, and then under the nose, there's a smile, and then I think, two little eyes.

We must have talked about this on Licensed to Kill, because there used to be an airline when I was a kid called PSA. What was it? was it PSA, but all the planes had an actual smiley face painted on the front. And these were commercial jets. Yeah. Or, I mean, not commercial jets, passenger jets. And I loved it. I loved to see it as a kid.

That's cute. And then they went under. I wish people would put the fun back and flying. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No. So we had you guys on the Goldfinger episode specifically because last time we covered this, it was covering the darker side of Goldfinger, which is there.

Some of the misogyny and changing times looked at in the rearview mirror don't hold up as well. I mean, there's some forcing yourself on a lady, but it was all in good 60s fun. Yeah. When does he force himself on a lady? Pussy? Pussy? Pussy? Is that he, well, he flips her into the hay.

But he does like, and then he struggle kisses her. Yeah, he definitely forces himself on it. He's power kissing a lot of people because he power kisses the first woman too, but, I mean, she's... Power kissing. Is that what you said? Yeah. That's such a funny thing. She's into it. Are you talking about Jill Masterson, the gold girl? Yeah, she's into it. Everyone's into it. Everyone eventually is into it. That's the thing about James Bond.

He knows. The thing is if you know that she's going to be into it, then you can just power kiss until the, until it becomes mutual. But that was like a real thing. That happened a lot in movies back then. He's got a license to kill and a permit to kiss. Gentlemen, if you're listening, Maria has given you permission to power kiss any woman as long as you think they're into it. Power kissing only works in the movies. Yeah, that's true. And you still see. And you still see. power kissing in movies and television today. Have you ever been power kissed? Oh yeah. You have? Oh no not where I was like it was it. No. She's still you're still power kissing. Okay, a power kiss to me that's like an okay power kiss would be like if you're in a fight with like your boyfriend or something and you're like I'm mad at you right now and then they power kiss. Maybe it's wrong. I don't know. Now that I say it I'm like I don't know if I like it. Well it's a power kiss. Here's what a power kiss is. and here's what I think that's working with Bond.

It's not that she's like, she's struggling and she's like trying to get out. And she's like, no, no, no. It's like not like that. It's literally a game they're playing. Yes, it's a game. I don't want to be with you. And he's going, yes, you do.

You have to see it as she's being a strong woman and she's like knows what she wants. She wants him, but she's playing a game with him, a power struggle. I do think that is the film's intention. It comes across in a slight gray area, but I think you're right. And it also clearly, that kiss is the,

switchover moment where pussy galore goes from full on lesbian to i love you and i'm going to help you in your plan like so right or wrong yeah how did she says she's a lesbian in the book she's a lesbian but in the movie they hint at it with like your charms are lost on me or something like oh i thought that was just because she was a lady at the sky she was only interested in the class yeah but also you know like goldfinger when they're sitting in that porch of that kentucky place which by the way is called orick stud farms. And it looks a lot like the interior of the room we're currently. Oh, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. Now, I have

something to say about the power kiss real quick. So I think Maria is correct that he and Pousy were playing... Pousy! We're playing a game. I hope you'd call it that the entire episode. We're playing a game that they were both in on and he picked up on the subtlety.

It's not like he tried to power kiss that middle woman, the sister. You know, she didn't like bonds. They had kind of a contentious... No, but he's a... Tilly Masterson, the sister of Jill Masterson. That middle blonde did not need to be there. Right.

The middle blonde who gets killed by the hat? She's trying to kill Goldfinger for killing her sister. She didn't want to be power kiss. He didn't power kiss her because they didn't have that sort of relationship. Interesting, yeah. He could have power kissed her, but he didn't. Yeah, no, he knows. I honestly think he picks up on when a girl is playing games with him.

Yeah, but I don't think that men should try and do that In general. No, no, no. You can't assume, listen, there are a select few number of men out there. And one of them is like probably Daniel Craig. Yeah. And where it's like he has the ability, he has the go ahead to go like, is this woman, a woman is going to play games with a certain kind of man.

I think that it's a very specific certain kind of man that's really only in certain movies who can have that kind of, he can read women. And if you're listening to this thinking, I can do that, no, you cannot. Because one of those, those men would not be listening to a podcast. That's true. And also those men are very true. Also, that is very true.

There's no way. There's no way Connery or Craig listen to podcasts. No, no. They don't know what it is. They're just being served. Daniel knows what a podcast is. Well, he's been on him. I understand.

on the nerdist. Yeah, but he thinks their radio shows. He doesn't know you have to go onto iTunes to get it. Like, God forbid, you say, go on to Stitcher. And he's like, what? And you're like, Stitcher Premium. He's like, out. He's out.

My tailor? No, no, no, no. This app. What? We got right to the, you know. Well, that's good. I'm glad. Knock it out.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's go to the beginning of the film and let's run through this thing. Matt, you were saying that you thought you had a really good time watching it. That was even better than you remember. I felt the same way. I find that I'm always surprised by Goldfinger. It is such the archetype James Bond movie that when I watch it, I just go, oh, yeah.

That's why everyone loves this movie. It is hyped a lot, and you think, oh, it's probably not going to live up to the hype because I see the others so much. But it is a fun watch. A couple things I picked up. The Cold Open, of course, is unrelated to the plot of the movie. He's destroying a heroin farm. Right. I feel like I would like to watch a movie just on that mission.

I would always like to watch. What happens at the beginning again? He comes up in a wetsuit, unzips it. Oh, my God, the pigeon hat. Yes. I thought, when I was watching that, I was thinking, I was thinking, if I would have seen this before your 40th birthday party, I would have come in a wetsuit with the pigeon hat, the duck hat.

What were you again? Oh, you were Gettler from Casino Royale, the one sunglass guy. Yeah, but I thought that would have been just a really good costume. Yeah, that was kind of a silly way to start the whole movie. movie the first time you see this guy who's supposed to be this like sex symbol he's like has a pigeon hat but also his wetsuit was like made out of satin well and also what is the point of that hat he's certainly not going to be surfacing for that long that he would need to have the seagull to distract everyone he's at night it's black he does not but are his eyes even above water so it's

completely pointless right because if he if he had to come up to breathe he would the seagull would look like it was tipping up, he'd still see his face. Yeah. He should have had a face mask, a seagull. Like the crocodile submarine is what... Like the crocodile submarine is more what we would want. But he'd tell you know, but the thing about it that struck me

this time watching it through was that the seagull looks so dead when you see it. Yeah, it does look cheaply stuffed. It's just like waterlogged and stuffed. Yeah. But you get him out of the water. He takes off that wet suit. He reveals Matt's wedding

outfit. Ah, yeah. It's really something. Did you ever think, though, that I wore that for our wedding, a similar thing, and you were dressed as Jill Masterson for my 40th birthday? That's correct. So we have a lot of ties. Oh, and I, all the secret planning I was doing to buy your engagement ring, I put in a

folder called Operation Grand Slam. Oh, my God. Yep. And so the whole wedding, all the stuff for the wedding, anytime I'd like keep an email or whatever, I'd put it in a folder called Operation Grand Slam. Your purchasing of the engagement ring was kept secret from her. This is amazing to me because my wife, who is, you know, I was like, well, she's older than me. So she really probably knows what she's wanted.

I was like, I'm going to include her on this. And so she knew that you were going to propose, but she didn't know when or where. Yes, but we did. I did go with her to the jeweler and let her try on a few and pick out the one she wants. wanted. Oh, nice. They didn't want her to be like. And then you did a power move and you picked the other one. That's right.

Power night. And then I power engagement. To get a discount, I power kiss the jeweler. And he was into it eventually. Amanda had a secret Pinterest page that I found that had some rings on there. Oh, God. Yeah. Well, I had a wedding Pinterest page.

This was all part of Grand Slam. Operation Grand Slam. And I had a bunch of different rings on there. Some that were not, you know. Knowing he was going to look at it? No. I think I'd like showed it to you once or something. So you knew it existed.

And I was just kind of like Pinteresting stuff on there. It was also for like, because I was helping a friend kind of with their wedding. So it was like it wasn't just like I'm dreaming about my wedding. It was just like, oh, in general wedding stuff. And yeah, you picked a really nice one. That was just what I wanted. It's so nice. It's beautiful.

So simple. Maria, would you prefer a surprise wedding ring or in on the planning? I'd be fine either. way. I'd just be, I'd like to get asked. No, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, people always say things like, like, like, I don't care what the ring looks like as long. And that, yeah, I get that, but also, like, I'd hope that, you know, my boyfriend would know me enough to know to get me something that, like, I, like, truly, you know, like, so if, if, if I got something that was, like,

whatever is Gersh the right word, like ostentatious or something, I would be kind of a little bit, a little bit like, oh, like this isn't really me. So I know my boyfriend knows me more than that, but it is a, it is a fear of mine. I've told him before, like, if you're ever going to do, just ask my friends. That's what Matt did. Matt email, like had an email chain going with, like, my sister and my friends. But I also think if you're going to pick out a ring for someone, and you have to also be okay with them wanting to exchange it or return it or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I just, you know, I just think like, you know, just. Like Amanda took the one I got, got a $100 ring and then just spent the cash.

Our jeweler said to us, he's like, he's like, you just try, see what you like. He's like, and my wife was like, was there anything else? And he was like, yeah, I find that you should get a ring that fits in your social. structure. Don't get anything that's like crazy blingy if none of your friends have crazy blingy rings. Wow. This is the jeweler saying it?

So he, he's an honest jeweler. He's great. But does it go the other way where like if you don't have as much money as your friends, you should like buy up? Right. I think he was more stating don't get anything you're going to be like

uncomfortable with on the subway if you're, you know, if you ride the subway. Yeah, sure. That's really. It does make. sense. Like elegance and style-wise, you don't want to go outside of your own world, you know, view or whatever.

It would be weird. Speaking of elegance and style, let's talk about that Rolex. Oh, yeah. That's the submariner. Is it? That is, it's the pinnacle of Bond watches. If you were to try to purchase this now, you'd be spending about $120,000. Where, God.

When he's lighting his cigarette right as the bomb goes off in the cold open. But speaking of elegance and style, let's talk about that shammie leather. holster. Shammy leather. He's got a soft shammy leather holster, which is, you know, if you've ever listened to this podcast before, there's a whole video about that with Jeffrey Boothroyd. Is that his name? Yeah, this guy who I just learned.

Yeah. Because we've covered this guy before. It's a video about this guy who wrote Fleming saying, Bond wouldn't use this gun. He'd use this gun. In his neighborhood, some woman was murdered, and he was the suspect because he was the only person in the neighborhood with the gun that had killed this woman, but he was later cleared. So for those of you who are a past listener, just a little intrigue for you. Uthroids the equivalent of someone writing into a podcast.

And being like, you got this wrong. Here's what you should have done. Yeah. And like if we'd listen to them. Yes, right. They've got a shammie leather holster. Well, then we go to Florida. Wait, are we still, can we talk about the opening credits?

Absolutely. Oh, yeah. I've never seen anything. like it. I mean, who came up with that idea? I know it's been used more and more now of like the projecting on people like, but that's just a, who came up with that idea? What's his name? Because it's not Morris Binder. He did it for from Russia with love. It's the second time they did that. It's such a cool visual. I couldn't, I honestly couldn't believe it. And also like to project it onto the gold women. Yeah. It was like very. And I did think it was a little weird that they

They were like showing scenes from the movie, like things that are going to be happening. Robert Brown John. Whoa. And he came up with it. So what's the process of coming up with these opening credits? Do you know, like, so they come up with the song first or they come up with the credit or the... Usually the movie's done. Uh-huh.

And they're just waiting on the credit sequence. Is okay. So whoever's doing the credit sequence can see the movie. And is that usually like an artist of the time or like someone? one that because they're always so well for years it was in fact after this one it was a guy named morris bender who did all of them up till the brazenen years and then but this this guy they must have really been finished with the movie to give him the footage to then project on the girls yeah well i was really and then at the end um the the when the when the circle comes around him it does a dance

around him and it goes off of him like a bouncy ball you know what would be so great is to get one of those girls who have you had one of the girls from one of the bond opening credits on i was there too i would love to i would love to that would be a really good one because i do wonder are you just like are you fully nude do you have some little they are topless because they i've read things where morris bender especially was like half the reason he was doing them that way is because he wanted to see topless women he wanted to hang out on so wow plus now on blu-ray a lot of the roger moore era topless ladies in the sequence you can see a lot more than you did. Yeah.

Yeah. Changes the rating. Oh, dear. Did you notice the golf put that goes down into her cleavage? Oh, I didn't notice that. I just really, it's cool. That's a lot of fun, sure. All right, so we go to a long helicopter shot in Florida.

Which was crazy. Isn't that cool? That was, it was all timed. Who said and died? Yeah, some PA on a walkie-talkie's like, Have you guys ever done a high dive like that? No. I'm too scared.

I've jumped from that height, but not a dive. I don't know how to dive. Even like at pool level? No. What do you mean? You just go head first. No, I don't know how to do that. Have you ever dove in a well?

No. I don't. Are you scared? I don't know if I'm scared or I'd like belly flop. No. What? I can't dive head first. Have you tried and failed?

I don't think. No. You've never. tried. She's never tried to dive. Oh, God. I can't believe it. You're never curious enough to try it? I'm not curious of what it's going to feel like

to go head first and do a body of water. Maria, have you never lived? I can't do a cartwheel. I can't do as much I can't die. What about at the beach in the ocean? Do you ever dive? Well, like headfirst into a wave. Like into a wave when you're like going into the water.

You're looking at us like we're crazy. Do you dunk at all? I dunk, but I just dip. I'd go down like my legs right down and straight up yeah like a some kind of crazy reefer addict i can't i don't understand diving when you put your hands in front of you like that yeah i gotta get this girl to yeah would you allow us like if we go to a pool to kind of try to train you to do it yeah that'd be fine i i just you know yeah that's fine okay okay all right wow sorry i i don't know what to tell you guys. I just feel like you're missing out on a fun part of life. Does it feel good? It feels great.

It's really satisfying. You're splitting the water with your hands and your head. And when you go down like you're a slip stream, you bend up and it feels kind of like you're flying because you, well, the momentum takes you down, but then eventually you curve back up towards the surface and it's just kind of this. When did you learn? I think as soon as I started swimming, I was always like a water baby. Did you, when did you guys learn? I took swimming lessons where I, I learned to dive. And then I just... That was last year.

And then I would just... I would start with a dive where you kind of crouch down at the edge of the pool, like squatting. And then you dive in. We called it the... What's that apple seed man who chopped the trees down? Johnny apple seed? Yeah.

Why'd you call it that? The Johnny Appleseed. Because she was chopping the water in. Because yeah, the instructor would come by and go chop, chop, chop, chop. And then you'd fall in like you were a tree going timbre. Oh, he would chop you like... Well, here's the deal. That's completely crazy.

for that person to say that because Johnny Appleseed planted trees. He didn't want to cut them down. Were you Paul Bunyan? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I never said Johnny Appleseed. That came from Matt. Matt, that was a silly thing to say. Did you just throw me under the bus with Johnny Appleseed? Well, I did confirm it. I believe that

it's your fault. I'll take it. Yeah, and I grew up with a pool, so we had to die. Oh, well, excuse me. Oh, hang on, let me just be clear. It was an above ground pool. Wait, how deep was it? Four feet, bro. And you're diving in that thing? Hell yeah. Shallow dyes were my thing. Wow.

Wow. A lot of head injuries. It is dangerous. I have hit my head on the bottom of a pool. It does not feel good. Anyway. I loved the Florida part of this movie. I loved seeing the swimsuits and the cover-ups.

Yeah, the play suits. You know, we've talked a lot about the Terry Cloth blue play suit that Bons were. But for the first time, my eye went to Goldfinger's little number. Oh, really? He has kind of like a dull chiffon yellow thing, but it's lined with Terry Cloth. It's a two piece. And it, oh, see, to me it looked like a little dress or something. It did when he was coming down the stairs, but when he gets down, he just has really short shorts under it.

Okay, so the girl in the beginning in the Florida scene, what was her name? Dink. Dink. Okay, so I love that Bond just as like, get out of here. Dink, the big boys are talking, slops her ass, and then like two seconds later puts on that little play suit. And it's just like very confusing message. Man talk. I must put on this play suit.

Run along, Dink, Mant talk. I, for the first time, noticed that. he had a clipping belt. Yeah, yeah. I did not notice that until... I need to dig mine out. I meant to wear it for this recording.

So the one that... So when Matt kind of first got it in his head, he wanted a tear a cloth play suit. My sister, who's a very talented artist and went to fashion school and can make clothes, said, I'm going to make Matt a play suit. And so we were all so excited.

And she comes over and he's planning to wear it that night for a live show. For the dead authors Ian Fleming. Sarah had done the math wrong. It was Austrian. In her defense, it was an Australian pattern. So it was metric. And I don't know how she didn't notice while she was making it,

but she had fully made this play suit. It was tiny. It didn't even fit me. It wouldn't have even fit like an eight-year-old. It was like for a doll. And I don't know how she got all the way through, making it and sewing it without like holding it up and realizing this is insanely tiny. I could get my legs through the leg holes.

I could get my arms through the armholes. But there was such body shortening. that I had to completely go into a C shape to get in it, and I couldn't straighten out. Well, we ended up snipping the crotch, but it turned it into a little dress suit, but it was short. Did it look correct? No, I couldn't get it.

But I mean the doll version, did it look? Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. It was well proportioned for like a three foot four person. This reminds me of a friend. I forget what friend it is, went on eBay and. Is this you? And so, no, it was a friend.

She went on eBay and she saw like this like dining room table for like $10. And she was like, oh my God. And she got it and it was a doll for a. That's like Stone Engine's final test. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. She got this little box.

Oh my God. Had she cleared out the space for the table? She should have fallen out there and put it down. Seriously. She was like $10 for this whole dining. And you go over and it's in the middle of her dining room on the floor. Well, oh, I love that. At least it was only $10.

In the Florida scene, what was with all the green screen use? Because they did a second unit shoot in Florida without any of the primary actors. So they shot all of the actors either in studio with rear projection or on a set. Why? I mean, didn't they know it was going to blatantly come across this green screen? I think back then people wouldn't have questioned it probably because they weren't. be impressed by it. Right, yeah. But there are behind the scenes photos of Bond and Jill Masterson on that balcony looking down at Goldfinger and they're actually, they must be in like,

I don't know if they're in the Riviera or what, because there's an ocean in front of them and no hotel. Wow. Oh, really? Yeah, they're on the DVD. Huh. Yeah. We'll take a look at that. Yeah. I didn't know that either. What do you guys think of Connery as like a sex symbol or is like as James Bond. Since you guys, we watched Craig, we watched a Dalton film. What do you think of him? He's the first. He's what most people consider the classic Bond. Yeah, I thought he was, he was an interesting, comparing him to Daniel Craig, he's an interesting bond because he, like, they tell him at the beginning, like, you're doing, you're being reckless or whatever. They do that in Casino Royale and this movie. And in Casino Royale, it's kind of like, F this, I'm going to do. And in

this one, he's like, be, like, uh, be good bond. Like he's like, he like is able to restrain himself in some way, or he like wants to be better than he is. Whereas Daniel Craig is like, I'm gonna do my thing. And that's sexier to me than a bond

that like wants to make everyone happy. Daniel Craig's bond is like Denzel Washington and man on fire. I've never seen that. Me either. He's just gonna kill anything that gets in his way. Yeah. And does whatever the fuck he feels like

to get revenge. Yeah, I think Sean Conner is very handsome. but I guess I'm used to seeing him older. Yeah. So this one, it was like hard for me. For a minute, I was like, oh, that's Sean Connery. Like it was, it didn't, something about his face and body doesn't register in my brain.

Like, I couldn't really tell you what he looks like. You have Connery blindness? Yeah. And there's something about his face where sometimes he looks handsome, but overall it doesn't do it for me. There's a lot of triangles. On his face. And even his body, I see a lot of triangles. and he looks like someone else

like he looks like he's supposed to look like something else but he doesn't and I don't know that doesn't make sense but he's also like really tall but kind of a little like I don't know there's something about his figure and I guess it's because I didn't feel like I fully got to see him shirtless do we see him shirtless you do at the beginning before he puts on the place

I have to take another look but this was also 60s man body which is like a Smokey the Bear body which always freaks me out. You know, like the... Yeah, because he was Mr. Universe, right? Yes. It's like fit, but it also is kind of like, oh, it's like very...

I don't know what it was with those old bodies. It reminds me of, you know, I just got this massager, right? So it's like got those balls in it that move around under like a layer of mesh. It reminds me of that, like the skin's a layer of mesh. And then there's... Also, I should mention this thing lights up red and heats. That also reminds me. of Sean Connery. There's some movement in the body underneath the skin, like, where it's like the muscles

could go anywhere. Oh, wow. Like his skin is not attached to his muscles? Yes. And also noticing, like, in the pool scene in general, the- You should Google a Sean Connery shirtless so they can sort of, like, play it into there. The women's figures were very different back then, too. There was not, like, pointy boobs. Yeah, they had pointy boobs. Their posture was, like, poor. And then they had, like, flat booties. But they were, like, very hunched. But they were, like, very hunched. But That was like the attractive posture. I think Dink did not have a flat booty. Oh, she didn't?

Dink was stacked up top and down bottom. She's busty for sure, but I didn't get a good look at the lower half. That's the one that's looking in the spike. No. No. Dink is the. No. That's the wrong one to show.

What that? I showed him the Zardaz. See, that I seem okay. I'm okay with that. Why is he wearing that? That's from the film Zardaz. It's from a very weird movie. Oh, yeah.

See, that's a small. Smoky the bare body. I like the chest hair and I like the back hair. Yeah, that looks nice there. You know, it might be something when you, the belly up is good. I think down it becomes like a triangle. Yeah, I think he is very handsome, but I'm not, there's something for me where I can't really wrap my head around it.

Interesting. And he was wearing a toupee, huh, during this? Yeah. I still don't buy it. What do you mean you don't buy it? I don't buy the toupee there. I don't buy it. Well, how does a toupee get?

so much worse between Goldfinger and Diamonds are forever. Well, that's true, but... I don't buy this. You don't buy it? I don't buy it. I don't doubt my wigdar? I don't doubt your wigdar, but I feel like it might be on the fritz. No.

There's... Now, I think there's some question in Dr. No and from Rush with Love where he's whether he's wearing a full... Oh, you do? Hey. Now you think there's a question? I'm not finished. Whether he's wearing a full toupee.

He's definitely wearing something. I don't know. Have you not seen him in this era? No. He doesn't have much hair. I haven't seen him in this era without much hair. It's a great wig. That's all I'm saying, Matt.

Oh, okay. All right. I mean, look, my wiggear isn't, like, it's never failed. But I would like to see him. So here's what I would. So you don't have to keep moving your computer. All right. I'm going to turn on my Wi-Fi.

I'm sorry I brought it up. No. This is important. It's important. This is what this podcast is about. Wigdar. Devil's beef. Oh, can't say the full name of a Wi-Fi network.

Why? I don't know. I just have always felt weird about it. Oh, like giving someone's personal information. Yeah, and it's like, oh, no, now I know what they're what. Someone could drive to our house and get on our Wi-Fi. Yeah, that's right. After they crack the code.

Yeah, do you need the code? I did it. It's all fine. It's already in there. All right. I already cracked it. I got a team of Chinese scientists. When he goes in and he catches Jill Masterson looking down at Goldfinger,

and then he says, let's have dinner, and he goes, I know the best place in town, and then they cut to room service. It felt like Casino Royale, like, want to go to my place? Is it close? Pretty close. Like, almost like that was a nod or some kind of. There was a lot of nodding. I feel like Casino Royale took directly from gold.

They were like, we're going to rebrand Bond. We're going to go to what everyone's favorite Bond movie is Goldfinger, and we're going to just kind of take stuff from that and heighten it. Have you guys seen Quantum of Solace? Because they literally lift from Goldfinger when they kill the secondary Bond Girl. They cover her in oil and put her on a bed in the exact. same position as Jill Masterson. Yeah.

Wow. Wow. So I was really shocked because I thought that Jill Masterson was killed and then covered in gold as like a symbol, you know? But how they explain it is that the gold paint when it covers every inch of your body suffocates you. Yes, but she was murdered. Like they did that on purpose to kill her. Oh, I know that. No, I'm just saying like what about her mouth?

They poured it in her mouth? No, it's a myth. It's not true. but apparently they're saying that if you cover your skin, you suffocate, even though you can breathe through your mouth, you're like something about like... They believed that for real, though, too, didn't they in real life? And they handled it on Mythbusters. Yes. Oh.

Yeah. So that's not true, because you could just breathe out of your mouth and nose and eyes. Yeah. I think it's interesting how the... You're an eye breather. How the cleaning lady just allows him... She's just charmed into using her key to open up Mr. Goldfinger sweet.

That was cute, though. Yeah, I like, yeah, what does he say? I remember seeing that and being like, oh, that's, see, he's cool. Yeah, he's got some charm. He's got confidence is what gets him through that. He didn't have to power kiss her. See, it's not all about the power kiss. Power took her key.

Yeah, I know. It's a power charm. I don't know because honestly, it's like, okay, so he did that in the movie and I thought it was kind of a funny moment. If some man came out to me and did that to me in real life, I'd giggle, but then I'd go and scream and crying about him stall. Yeah. Any man. No, girl. Well, okay.

I get what you're saying, but there is a select few, and Bond is one of those select few where you'd go, you wouldn't cry. I'd be delighted. But I'd feel scared still. Yeah, but that's okay. And he'd make you understand that it's okay to be a little scared. Let me pose something to you guys. All right. Odd job knocks Bond out.

And when Bond wakes up, Jill Masterson is completely covered in gold paint on the bed. How long does Bond have to be out? Like, so odd job sneaks in. He presumably hasn't brought his little cart with paint and brush with him. So he has to knock bond out. I think it's right outside the door. Okay, so he's got like a disguised room service tray. He doesn't have to go down and get it.

It's out there. In a room service tray. But there's no paint reds to do anywhere else in the room. No, that's what I'm saying. So, like, he has to put down probably plastic or like canvas drop cloth. How long does it take to paint this girl and put her down? Well, you didn't see the bathtub. He just filled it.

With it with paint, yeah, that's right. But her hair is not cold. Was she, like, struggling? Because if she was struggling, then there would have been paint everywhere. He must have killed her before he painted her. No, because the paint killed her. Yeah. He may have knocked her out and then painted her.

He probably did one of those back karate chop things. Also, Bond sort of struggles before succumbing to being unconscious. Yeah, he does a little weird. What did he get hit with when he... He just gets hit with one of those karate chop back the neck. The most deadly force. known to 60s in America. I couldn't believe what a baller moved to waste that lukewarm champagne.

I know. That's like a $60 bottle. It simply isn't done. More than that. Yeah. Wow. It is weird that they reference the Beatles. Yeah.

And it's also weird that they picked the right reference because it is timeless. Yeah. I feel like that's Guy Hamilton not liking the Beatles. Sure. But it also could have been like they could have picked any band. What was the Beatles reference? Well, he was saying like drinking a domperignon 53 above temperature of 38 degrees.

Is like listening to the Beatles without earmuffs. It simply isn't done. Oh, I didn't catch that. That's just trying. That's Bond being an old fart. Do you want some wig formation? Please. According to Connery himself, he had a hairpiece in all of the Bond pictures.

Yes. But his forehead hairline was the, Last thing to go. That's what I'm saying. In Dr. Noan from Russia with love. See, this vindicates my wigdard again. But he has a full wig in Goldfinger. You can see the hairline.

I don't know if Conner agrees with you. Well, what does he say? I, he didn't see. Exactly. And who's reporting this? Eric Grayson on a Yahoo message board. Have you guys tried to get Sean on this podcast? No, he lives in a castle and he watches tennis.

Oh. Wow. Yeah. Well, you bring it to him. All right. I'd fly to Scotland. Matt and I have been early, early, early discussions of like, hey, wouldn't it be fun to go to a couple live shows in the UK?

Oh, yeah. Oh, I get it. I get it. Just laying the breadcrumbs out, seeing if you take the middle. So listeners, if you think that would also be a fun idea, let us know. We know there's enough of you out there. I see the numbers. Yeah.

Would you guys go? Oh, yeah. For sure, come. Okay. Yes, please. All right. That sounds great. Well, then we'd,

go to Bond getting going to Em's office right and there's a point where Bond does one of his trademark know-it-all lines and this is the first time I noticed M just gives him kind of a look like oh god you'd hire some mother and it just I love Bernard Lee so much as M I think he's uh the best and I think that Judy Dench is also the best I think they should be co-ems Co-ems, yeah, Eminem. Like us. But yeah, no, so he does get a little,

he does take it a little more personally than you think he would. M? This death of Jill. Yeah, he does. Masterson. Like Bond feels it a little more than... Well, he's really responsible for it.

Yeah. Unequivocally, he got her killed. Yeah, because was he just like playing like a joke when he kind of noticed that guy Goldfinger cheating and he was just kind of like... No, because he's there to investigate him already, right? Oh, he was?

Yeah, but he didn't have to, he didn't have to get involved like that. He just like. He pushes it. He pushes it and he gets on the walkie-talkie and he does that whole thing. He's just being arrogant. Yeah. Yeah. And then Jill's got to pay.

So in Goldfinger's mind, has she betrayed him or is he just like she got used, I'm going to kill her just to spite bond or kill her because she betrayed me? I think it's, yeah, she like, she betrayed me. But it's also like, why not kill Bond? Bond, who is knocked out and could be covered in gold paint. Right, because he tries to kill him later. Yeah, you know, he could kill him at any point. And then it never was clear to me exactly why he had to keep him alive later.

There are weird inconsistencies, like killing the mobsters after showing him this huge plan. Oh, yeah. In general, watching the movie made me realize, oh, you can just start a lot of ideas and just let them kind of go away. on their own and never explain them. That's a Bond movie. Like, why does that woman, the sister of Jill Masterson, show up? She adds nothing.

Looks, right. Wait, that's the dink girl? No, the woman in the middle. In the Mustang. In the white Mustang. Oh, okay. So now, I was getting confused watching this. So she's her sister

and she's trying to kill Goldfinger because of her sister's death? Yes, yes. And so she, okay. Tilly. And in the book, I think she's a lesbian as well. Tilly has a different accent than Jill. Right. Their sisters.

Separated at birth, possibly. Why'd be so mad? Well, they had one American parent and one English parent, and they just hung out separately. Yeah, I understand. Yeah. So then Bonn goes to a black-tied dinner for three men. Why? I liked that scene.

Now, what I never heard was meet me here for dinner. Yeah. Which means that somewhere in the Ministry of Defense, there's a ballroom. I assume they're like, meeting here and we'll go over to this guy's house together. So they went to that guy's house? I gather. Colonel, what is it, Colonel Smithers? I think so, which gives him the most English name.

Because we always try to pick the most English person in one of these films. It has to be him. Oh, he's by far. He won the first time we did this podcast, and he'll win again. And I feel like when we eventually do the bracket of the most English people in James Bond movies, he's a top seed. Yeah. He's a top seed.

I like those big brandy glasses that they were drinking out of. Yeah, it makes it look like they've had a lot to drink, but they've just been swarling a little bit around in there. Colonel Smithers has the, like, sad two wisps of remaining hair on his head. Almost like a hoof. Yes. Yeah. It's like he got stomped by a deer.

He should have talked to Connery's wood guy. I know. Colonel Smithers. In Gold and I, we notice the size of, Q's hands, they're enormous. Now, Q is the guy that helps spawn with all the gadgets and stuff. And his hands are generally enormous. And I think throughout these films, I'm going to rate them at their biggest and smallest.

So I give this one a GoldenEye minus three. And a golden eye, golden eye being 10 thus far. They may get bigger. I don't know. But so far... Wait, but it's the same cue? Yeah. But do you think his hands are going to grow?

Well, in GoldenEye, he's having some kind of inflammation or something because they are... They are elephant hands. Yes. But they're still really large in this. They're just big meat hooks. He's got huge hands. Probably a giant dong too, right? Isn't that the relationship?

Q's got a huge unit. He's just this sexual Tyrannosaurus. Hung like a... Are his hands? Well, I don't know. Ask Trump. Someone tell me. Smithers, by the way, is in a hard day's night.

He is the annoyed passenger in the train car when all the Beatles show up. That's right. Look at that. Same year. Same year, huh? Yeah. I was just watching that Ron Howard documentary on Beatles.

Eight days a week? Isn't that a scene in there or something? In that documentary? Sure, why not? Hmm. Hmm. Very interesting. Bon says he says, I'm going to stop off for a quick one en route.

Does he mean girl or drink? Oh, I think he means both. Yeah. If it was a girl, I'd hope we'd see it. Same goes for a drink, though. What did you guys think of his gadgetry, getting all the gadgets? I loved that. I loved all that stuff.

I did notice when they opened the console of the car to show them all those unlabeled buttons, it was like really dusty in there. Did anyone notice that? It just seemed like a lot of the gadgets were kind of like dusty. And maybe that's HD or something watching it now. you couldn't make out the dust particles, but quite dusty. But it also could be from like, you know, whenever you're in some sort of workshop, there's bound to be dust particles. They could be sawing wood by there.

They could be. That's true. Yeah. And they had the first GPS system in that car. That was a prototype for. You can see, in HD especially, you can see in this movie that sometimes metal is wood just painted silver. Oh, wow.

You can see the texture and that's such. What do you think of the... ejector seat. If you tell him not to press it, why have it? Yeah. Fair. Well, yeah, but I think there must, I don't know. There must have been a reason.

It was a passenger ejector seat here, right? Which I think would come in more handy than a regular ejector seat. Yeah. You know, you certainly don't want to eject out of the driver's seat. Unless you are. He was just saying don't press it now because then it's useless. Right. So that's fine.

That makes sense. Justi, you must be joking. I never joke about my work. Have you seen my hands? I got a question for you. Yes, man. Style-wise, because you're my go-to guy. I love it.

What's Bond's sweater when he's golfing and he's got that little, is it a fox or a lion on there? I like it. You know what? I always thought it was Puma. Yeah, but I've seen those before. It could be a slosinger cat from the slossinger golf balls. Oh, you may be right. He's wearing a slizinger sweater?

Yeah. Did we talk about this last time? This does feel familiar. familiar. No, we talked about a Slossinger golf balls. Yeah, I know, I remember that. That golf scene really took its time. It did. And there's, yeah, it has to be. There's no music under the entire golf sequence. It's my favorite, it is honestly, my favorite sequence in a James Bond movie that is unrelated to action. When that little gold bar drops down and he pretends it was an accident, right? He's like, oops, my gold bar.

Well, I think he's being facetious. Oh. And so he's, I, sometimes I get confused watching movies where I ask a lot of questions. Did you watch this alone? No, I watched it with my boyfriend. And I asked him quite a bit of questions and he had answers. But in, he was trying to get in with gold, he was pretending to get in with Goldfinger to just be like, hey, let me in the gold business with you?

Was that his whole, was that what the golf scene was about of like? I believe so, yeah. But it was made to be that they were just playing golf together for, it would, I get, okay. Yeah, he was staged like, oh, I'm just here at this club golfing. It's supposed to be random. Okay, yeah. And then the gold bar drops.

And then he's like, oh, you're in the gold business, huh? And then he bets him during the golf game. and then his he switches the balls out to make it seem like Goldfinger was cheating which he was.

Yes. Right, right, right. So then it's kind of like Goldfinger knows he has to pay up, right? But I also think that Bond was confident had the cheating thing not happened, I think Bond was confident

he could beat Goldfinger in a game of golf. Yeah, and it's almost like he threw the game anyway because he knew he wanted to screw him on the other thing. Yeah. against, again, it just puts him in more danger than it makes people mad at him where they don't have to be mad at him. If he had lost and just given away the gold. Seriously, like, if he wouldn't have talked to him when he was playing the poker game and, you know, egged him on there. And then the golf game, like, if I'm Goldfinger, I'm going like, God, what's his deal?

But he also. Why is he annoying? Why did I kill him? Why did I kill the girl? He has to prove to Goldfinger that he's clever so he can be indispensable. Wow. Interesting. Was anyone else surprised? Maybe Amanda, I'm just asking you,

of how Goldfinger looked. Like, I thought Goldfinger was going to be like this sly, like young, like Russian. And he came out and he just looked like a guy that worked at the pool. Well, I was, you know, had a lot of flashbacks to Austin Powers. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, see, I never put that connection together. That it was a, yeah. It's a direct lift. Yeah, so I kind of had an idea. What did you guys think of as? caddy. I love his cat. I want him to have a spin-off. We've talked about spin-offs. I love his catty. I love that he can barely finish

he can't finish sentences. You crafty old done. That's his ball and I'm Arnold Palmer. I love it. Love that guy. It's your honor. Do you think Bonn keeps the 5,000 that he won or does he turn it into MI6? He keeps it. I think he has an unlimited expense account.

anyway. I bet he tipped his caddy really well. He probably gave his caddy the 5 Gs. No, you wouldn't have given it all. You would have given him like two G's and then kept the rest and had like a really nice dinner. Yeah, he probably spent it all in one night. Yeah, that's true. How would he do that?

That would be a very expensive, 1964 dinner. Cut to James Bond-O-7 in Brewster's millions. You have to spend this three-th-thousand-old. You have one night to spend this $5,000 check. God, could you guys rack up a $5,000 bill at dinner? No. Well, I mean, you could, depending on the liquor prices, like, if there's, like, a bottle of, like, McKellen 75 or something.

Right, and how much would that be? That would probably be, like, $1,000. That would be more than that. At a restaurant, it would be $3,000 or $4,000. Oh, there you are. Use it all on tip, though. You have your meal. Oh, sure.

And then you just spend that you just... Or napkins. Use it as a napkin. Yeah, use it as napkins. Throw it out. Every different napkin swab is a different $1,000 bill. Five swabs done. Are there $1,000?

dollars bills? There must be. Are there, there or not? No, there used to be. There used to be thousand and ten thousand dollars. Now it's just, the highest denomination is $100. These are all pounds anyway. And I think the highest denomination of euros is a $500 bill. Really?

Yeah. It could be wrong. I'll check my currency papers. I don't have any. Well, now we go to Switzerland. Thank God. It's so fun there. Yeah, it's nice there. It's beautiful. That windy road chasing really was thrilling for me. I want to go on that road in a little convertible.

That was scary to do a chasing on that windy of a road. You guys have seen that car before, obviously. It's in Casino Royale. Oh, is that the car? See, I'm telling you, there's direct links to... The SB5. Do you guys... What do you think of that car?

Just as people who may not be into cars, I wonder. I like it a lot, but I have to say I liked her car better. Her Mustang, yeah. That's a good looking car. Yeah, no, of course. You'd look good in that car. You would. Well, you'd look like Tilly.

Yeah, I liked how Tilly was dressed. Yeah. All the women were dressed a little severely, I have to say. That's what I'm saying. I think even on this movie, they're like, she's a lesbian. We have to butcher up a little bit. I think that's part of the putting pants on Pita on Pussy Galore. Right.

And did you notice Tilly? Billy's belt. It's like this clunky gold buckle that looks almost like Batman's utility belt. It was really interesting. And her big bow in her hair. Yeah, that gave her away. God, it was like a big red bow or something, right? Yeah. She's like a brown bow. Behind a rock. Yeah. I know. I'm not a pigeon hat. I do find her gorgeous. You meant it gave her away as a lesbian. It's like a, that red bow. It's like a red bow. No way. She doesn't anything but ladies. She's very, very serious, very dour. And then when they're driving in the Aston Martin trying to escape Goldfingers factory and Bond does that smoke screen, she gives a big smile for the first time ever like, like, she turns into a little kid.

It's something to look out for. It feels like, I don't know, like she knows she's going to survive. I like when he goes, what's in that case or something? And she goes, oh, it's my ice skates. Because I'm an ice queen. I would love to have a little case with ice skates in it. But I don't think ice skates can really fit in that case. And then it started making me think what ice skating was like a hobby.

It's like some people would go skiing. Other people would go ice skating. And they're ice skating at that Florida hotel in the beginning. Did you notice that? No. They pan by it. After the diver goes in and then you see that there's a tank that you can see the pool of the person diving and it pans over and there are people ice skating.

That was like a big bond moment of like, can you believe there's this place where people are swimming and ice skating at the same time? That is, that's a good, yeah. People should make that happen more at hotels. There should be swimming pools and ice skating rinks. Yeah. You know, I did think of, you know, of course last week,

you all heard the theme park episode where we were describing what would be in a James Bond theme park. And this, this movie really just I was like there's so many things you could do and I've decided that the ride that I would build out of Goldfinger aside from the wonderful Carsland style race with an Aston Martin and a Mustang I would have for the kids a carousel from Oric Goldfinger stud farm all the horses are from Goldfinger stud farm I like the stud farm I'd want to go there that the set design and that stud farm and the map room. Wait, the stud farm. But the horsies.

That's the inspiration for this room. The stones in the wood. I'm just trying to think, because sometimes... You know when they went where the horses were and Pussy Galore was wearing her little riding pants? Yes. Pretty much the whole... They had mint jolips.

The whole third act. The second and second and the third. And when he kills the monsters and the pool table flips. All the wood and the stones. Right. Okay. Yes. Sorry.

I just sometimes it all bleeds together. I understand. It should bleed together. Yeah. Because it does. Yeah, the mint julep scene I remember. Yeah. I never knew why they were doing what they were doing, but I liked it.

Yeah, and why was she, why did he pick those flying girls to do the overhead? Like, why involve pussy galore in the gals? Because she's willing to do the crime. Right. But he doesn't have anyone that can just, like, do it. That's who she is. She's someone who can do it. Is she like the...

No, I'm saying... But it's like, Pussy Galore's Flying Circus or whatever it is. It's like, that's... So what do they do normally? They do tricks? Air shows. They do air shows. You know, like the Blue Angels and then it's Pussy Galores Flying Circus.

Okay. So what I wish I could... And you would see in a film today, I think, is the scene where he recruits her or, like, gets her the thing of like, hey, do you want to do this? But it seems like in the 60s, they didn't really care. And it was just like, oh, this already happened. Because that seems like a really good... This would be a fun, Rogue One-style movie.

Oh, yes. Honestly. Yeah, I want that. And you got to check out I was there, too, because I had one of the female pilots on I was there, too. But in the book, weren't they already... Weren't they running the smuggling operation or something? I can't remember. Oh, that would be good if she were, like, the crime.

I think she's, like, all doing all the transportation or something. I could be wrong about that. But I like in the beginning when we first met Pussy. when she was like, I'm the pilot of this plane, but it's like she wasn't in the cockpit. Well, I also like that they were reading magazines in the cockpit. She comes back at the other girl pilot, just reading a girl mag.

That's right. No one was flying the plane. Girls will be girls. You can take the girl out of the kitchen, but you can't take the kitchen out of the girl. You know what I want for a Rogue One movie or a spinoff? Yeah. Is the Masters and Parents at home,

finding out, oh, your daughter was painted gold and killed. Oh, God, thank God we still have Tilly. Bring. Oh, but then it was killed by a top hat. Wait. But then all, it becomes a saving private Ryan situation, where then the third Tilly girl has, they have to, they have to bring her up.

We got to go get the youngest mangerson. Saving pilot Masterson. Billy, Billy, Billie, Billie, Gene. Why did the top hat behead the statue, but it didn't even make a mark? Simply, I think it would have been too graphic. It should have, it should have, yeah. But not even a mark. Not even, it was, she just knocked her out.

What's in that top hat? There's like a metal, it's lined with metal, I think maybe razor sharp metal or something. Yeah. Then it would have slit her throat. I thought it was just like really heavy metal. No, they show it at some point, and the under of the brim is metal.

Yeah. However, in the climax of the movie where that brim plays a huge role, there's nothing in the brim. Yeah, it's interesting. I don't care for it, guys. Watch the brim. Listen, I'm going to start a new segment on this podcast.

Okay, I love new segments. It's a new little element. Yeah. I don't know what to call it exactly, but look out for or goarly's look out for this, gloft. This is a new gloft moment. When the old lady fires that MP40 at them when they go through the road check sign, there's two shots of her shooting.

In the second one, when she's shooting, it's pulsing her body, and she's also exhaling at the same rate. It's like that movement is making her exhale. So cold air shoots out her nostrils the same as the gun. So it's like the gun shooting smoke at the same exact rate as cold air is shooting out of her nostrils. It's really something to look out for. What does Gloft mean?

Gourley's lookout for this. Oh, I thought that was what you called air coming out of your mouth. I would very much like to say for the record, none of the four of us besides, I suppose, Matt, I guess the answer is none of the three of us watched the movie that closely. Oh, I've got a few of us. To see the woman exhaling at the same rate. At the same rate. Is there? Yeah.

Can I have a note about the gatekeeper, though, not really a note, but I guess as you saw that, I saw, what was the life of a gatekeeper back in the day? because she was making dinner or something, and then she had to go open the gate. Was that a real thing? Did people live at a gate? I think it may be like a lighthouse keeper. Like that was... So you'd be sleeping and you'd hear a honk and you'd go like...

That's a good question. I really... I know, I was really intrigued by that whole concept. I'd like that job. Yeah, that'd be a good job. You wouldn't like to be woken up like that? If I meant I could have my days free. They wouldn't be free.

You'd have to be. Don't you think. I think you and I would enjoy being lighthouse keepers? Yes. Oh, you guys would be the best lighthousekeepers. Yeah. Maybe that's something to aspire to. But we'll have to watch between oceans.

Is that that movie? The light between oceans? Yeah. Why do we have to watch that? They're lighthouse keepers. Oh, okay. Are they separate lighthouse keepers? Are they in the same lighthouse?

They live together. He's the lighthouse keeper. She stole the baby. She's a stay at lighthouse mom. Yeah. Okay. Well, it's just something to look into. Yeah.

Thank you, Maria. Bond has a Walter P.38 in this when he goes to Goldfinger's factory. Not a PPPK. What's the deal there? I think he wanted more stopping power. Could be. Could be.

I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. Yeah. Why is Odd Job so pleased to see himself in the mirror after Bond crashes the Austin? I think he's just pleased with how silly it was that Bond got scared off by a mirror. I think it's like he looks at himself and I never realized I look like this. I thought with the music cue that it was the second time they had used this cue where it was like an

It was like an Asian kind of like Like a gong It wasn't a guy it was something like that and it reminded me and Did anyone ever watch that Sesame Street movie that took place in China? Yes Okay there was wait which one big birds big adventure or something like that The scariest thing was in that movie when I was as a kid which is like this Asian monkey man or something like I haven't seen it since but he'd

appear different places with that kind of same sound effect. What? I got to look this one. So when I was watching this, I thought that odd job was doing the same thing that guy was doing which was appearing in different places. And that when that mirror scene happened, I was like, oh my God. But it was just him and a mirror. But it really brought me back to my childhood.

It was called like the Great Walt Big Birds. The Big Bird in China. What? Monkey King teases Barclay. Oh, but maybe. And the Monkey King, Matt, looked like this. Oh, God. Let me see.

It was horrible. It was horrible, horrible, horrible. Oh, and he just pop up places and it was so scary. There's a real clash of cultures in this movie. I never fully understood why Goldfinger has an army of Asian umpalumpas. What? That's what they are, basically. Because he's getting the bomb, the atom bomb from a Korean scientist and like the Korean, I guess, assume the North Korean military of some kind.

And so those are the, remember he shoots that Korean guy? Yeah. In the Fort Knox and dressed as an American military guy like, oh, there's the bad guy. I killed him. That's the scientist that gave him the bomb. And I think those are all his minions that help with the smuggling of the bomb and the gold. I see. But it is weird that half of them are dressed as American soldiers.

and then half of them are just as like traditional Korean soldiers or whatever. I'm sure it's very authentic. Yeah, and respectful. I can't imagine it's either of those things. Mad and... Mad and... Man. Man. Man.

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in the book that's actually under Matt's coffee table right now There's a letter that Connery writes To the producers having read the script He does not like the script. Goldfinger? Yeah. Oh. Did you never read the book?

No, I'm saving it for a day when I'm sick, but I haven't been sick for like seven years. Where he talks about how unhappy he is with the script and how he's annoyed that Bond is constantly behind the eight ball in the movie. Oh, that is interesting. And that Bond is never on top of the plan. Bond is never ahead of Goldfinger at any point in the movie. And it did start to bother me, having watched it through that lens, of the movie. The fact that Bond, you know, he gets captured. He's, he never knows what Grand Slam is until the end.

He can't get the message out. Even at the very end of the movie, the climax of the movie, it's not actually Bond that stops the bomb. Right. He's about to save the day. Yeah. And all of a sudden comes in faceless American Scientist Number 8. Another spinoff.

I would watch that. To pull the, uh, to flick the switch or, whatever the hell he does. And Pussy. And stops the... She switches the gas out. And Pussy's doing all this stuff, too. He's never an active player in taking down the scheme.

He's making mistakes because of it. Like, he's like being reckless, but not because he knows what the next step is. It's just he's being like, well, let me try this out. It's like, yeah, it makes him seem like kind of a dope. I think that's a weakness of Skyfall as well. There's a lot of people doing things for him. The one scene I really like that had me charmed by Connery. was when he's in that jail cell and he keeps walking up to the little window and waving at the guy.

To me, that felt like it was him seducing that man. That's what it felt like. What kind of mentally slow prison guard sees him lower down and goes, is there really a little escape hatch? I don't know. See, honestly, maybe he dug a hole, dug a tunnel. And so, but then what I didn't understand is once the man, he winks at the man, he disappears. And the guy's like, ooh, is he out inviting me into the cell? he goes up to peak and then how does Connery skiddle up to the ceiling without being seen?

Well, I think that's just, I don't know. He must have gone up the side of the wall somehow. It was stones. He could have like. Yeah, I mean, he. Could you climb this? I could climb that. If you were, yeah.

If I had to. And then when he gets out of the JLS and Goldfinger's like, uh, what are you doing here? He's just like, yeah, I just came to see what's up. Like he doesn't even. Well, that's when he finally knows what gold. or what Grand Slam is. Right. So, but he just shows up

and then he gets put back in a jail cell, right? Yeah. But he doesn't show up. Pussy Galore finds him under the model. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, she finds him under the model, but then they go out and see Goldfinger together. But they do that so that

Felix Latter, who's watching with binoculars, will make it seem like everything's just dandy. They're having them in julep. There's nothing to worry about. He says that. He goes, go get Mr. Bond, so we look like there's nothing to worry about. Oh.

That's after the laser After the what Okay so the laser happens And then he gets put in jail Yes No he gets put in jail before the laser Oh God I'm lost now So

Oh he gets put in jail after the laser He gets put in jail after the laser And then he escapes And then he goes down and Goldfinger's like What are you doing here? He gets put back in jail and then he brings him back out Yeah and that's when he does it for show He does the laser is

Right before that Because that's when Pusigolor shoots him with the knockout gun and he wakes up on the laser table. Would you like to hear from the conference that Cubby Broccoli, Sean Connery and Richard Maybaum had together in Los Angeles on February 3rd, 1960,

4, I think, or 3? This is about the third draft of the script. Connery feels the tone of the script is all wrong. Once serious approach with humor interjected subtly, as in other film. feels that Bond's involvement with Goldfinger in Miami is too casual. He should be starting his investigation of Goldfinger there after finishing assignment in South America. He feels the script has lost Bond's mission,

which was to find Goldfinger's gold hoard of 20 million pounds. That is why he goes along with Fort Knox, hoping continued association with Goldfinger will give him his lead to the gold illegally smuggled out of England. Otherwise, why doesn't he just shoot him? There's a couple more notes from Connery. If this is boring, I can stop. No, they did take his note in the beginning

because he begins his investigation in Florida. Connery also feels that Bond should convince Goldfinger he is a criminal. So going undercover. suggests independent of first script which he says he never read that bogus background be prepared for bond

which Goldfinger discovers however Cubby replied that this was dubious as the hostage idea seems to work Connery is very much against pussy bouncing him around he said make

something out of their relationship or drop her from the script. Wow, fair. I kind of agree with that. He hates the scene in the hay while Odd Job watches from the hayloft. Oh, he thought that was too far. But that doesn't happen in the movie.

In the movie, I think they kind of odd job watching. The hay scene does, but Odd Job isn't watching. He thinks, and this goes back to conception of Bond with a bogus criminal past, that Goldfinger should make Bond prove himself somehow, perhaps by killing someone. These aren't bad ideas. No, these are good.

Sean Connery knows what he's doing. Because Tom Mankowitz talks about him giving notes on his script saying, like, they were never about him. They were for the betterment of the story. Yeah. That's interesting. He agrees that the authorities would have no reason to hold off springing their trap at Fort Knox until the moment when they do in the present script unless an atomic device was involved. A particularly dirty bomb, which they must get their hands on. I do wonder why they take so long to wake up.

So, but is this Connery's idea to have a dirty bomb? Sounds like it, right? Or is he just saying that they wake up too late in the original script? He feels that Bond is overshadowed completely by Goldfinger throughout the script and is especially disturbed by the ending. Bond does nothing to kill Goldfinger, with whom he has particularly nasty score to settle of the two girls' Goldfinger has had killed. He thinks squeezing the golf ball is ludicrous.

Oh yeah, that was ludicrous because if he held on to anything else, it would be crushed too. No, he can control his. That's crazy. He did it on purpose. He did it on purpose. He's saying he just doesn't know his own strength. Yeah. Everything he touches disintegrates.

Ah. He thinks the gangsters at the stud farm are guys and dolls characters. Wow. Instead, they should be real. They kind of are. He dislikes... Gary Marshall.

Theater curtains and bodies routine at the end. So that's something that never made it. He feels gold... I'm reading... I can't tell you how small the font is. I'm reading it. Wow. And it's a hard book to hold up to your face

because it's super heavy. He looks like a child. Hi, look at my book about Goldfinger. He thinks the gangsters, oh, I read that one, he feels Goldfinger and Bond as characters should be more as they are in the book. Thinks the script is in bits and pieces and not full so far as playing scenes are involved. He scoffed at Bond's leaving notes in the vet's pill bottles. Thinks he must get word out to lighter in some clever, dangerous way. Oh, just quickly on that.

So this was another thing that I didn't, that made Bond seem kind of dopey, was him putting that note in the guy's pocket. Yeah, and that didn't pan out. Yeah, because it was like, did you really think that Goldfinger was just going to let him leave? Oh, also what makes it dumb is like, this gangster, once he sees that I'm in trouble is going to help. Right, he was to put the tracking device in there so that hoping that his people would find it, right? He did. Right. But he thought it was going to...

No, but it had a note. It said, like, signed his name on it. Yeah, but they thought his people would get to it. And then I think that was supposed to cause tension now that he was killed. They won't get it. And it's like, oh, no, what's going to happen? They really are... The soldiers really are dead and you don't realize... The thought that Bonn made him ineffective and then Pussy had to do it. Yeah. Just the fact that Bon thought, like, this guy's leaving this place and he'll be able to get to wherever he's going.

Well, the idea was wherever... Right, right, right. But I guess he didn't, even if he was killed, then they... they would locate his sensor. But not that note. Like, no need to write that note. In the pocket? Yeah.

There would be, though. Yeah, because they would find the sensor in the pocket. The gangster doesn't have that information. I mean, he does, but he wouldn't be. But he's going to get blunt. Like, he doesn't think something's going to happen to him where a paper note would go away? I don't think he expects his body to be. He doesn't compacted into a car.

Yeah, I don't think he, yeah. Blue my mind. Is that really what happens at those places? Yeah. A little cute. Well, it's not that there's constantly killing mobsters in them. You mean the car crushing. The car crushing to get it that small.

I mean, I could watch that all day. Which Edgar Wright uses in Baby Driver. Still haven't seen it. Got to see it, guys. I got to see it. Two more notes here. Yeah, please. His last note on this conference is,

seen with Bond on the microphone during card game, ineffectual. Oh. And then... Wait, what? Say again? The scene with Bond on Mike, talking to Goldfinger, during the card game is ineffectual.

That's what he thinks. And then the last thing that I will read out of the book is from Eon Productions. It's a memo. And it says, Please note that last night, Sean Connery requested his Slossinger golf clubs, and I signed for them. Specifically, they were black bag umbrella,

complete set of irons, woods, two wedges, and a putter. He already has the trolley. Like, it seems like he only agreed to this. movie for a set of golf clubs. Yeah, he's an avid golfer, and they probably just said, we'll let you play golf and we'll shoot the movie while you're doing it. But he had to bring his own trolley.

So, like, that morning he came to work being like having it in his... Hello, gents. I've brought my trolling. I want to point out something that when they're on the airplane, Goldfinger has a quilted leather lavatory door. Did you see this? Yes, I did. Now, here's another gloft.

Gorely's look out for this. Goorley's look out for this. Please look out for this, yes. In the map room when he's giving the mobsters their orientation, the bar is quilted the exact same way. So Goldfingers thematically consistent in his decor. Well, that's cool. That's great to hear.

Gloft. Gloft, number three, Miley, when she's looking through the little peephole at Connery in the bathroom, has a weird little skin tag just above her ear. Oh, wow. And when they show up from one angle, it's like it's small in diameter, but it's long. It's like a weird little nubbin. That sequence really kind of freaked me out.

That whole her licking in different peep holes and then every time having the same reaction. I thought that was fun. I just thought every time the music cue is always the same and she'd like look away like all scary. It's like, how many times? What are those set of books he has on his airplane? do you think there's a set of like matching leatherbound books on the airplane in a little desk. On gold fingers? Yeah, what would those be?

They're probably those fake books where you open up and they're just boxes. Boxes of gold. Boxes of books. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe they're Bibles. Maybe something he wrote. I've self-publish, you see.

They're golden books, children's golden books. All right. I like your, what are they called, glofts? Glofts? Glopts. Yeah. Do I have any more? It's just things Matt sees. Yeah.

Oh, I do have one more gloft and it's a good one. Oh. But I'll save it for when it comes up. Yeah. I mean, I did. Oh, Amanda's gone. This is a long podcast, so you can take breaks as you need. It's not a long podcast.

It's an appropriately timed podcast. That's right. Probably the best one on the planet. And we'll have a special guest at the end of this, too. Is there a bathroom break segment you guys do? No, we just keep rolling through it. like to create one we could uh yeah um what do you guys really think of Amanda that's the thing anyone goes to the bathroom we get to dish what we really think yeah god I think she's lovely

yeah she's all right right yeah she's great not me no she's cool she's like the mat goarly of women uh I've read that that was the first time a laser beam was ever used in a in a movie I believe so special effects wise yeah and that was thrilling yeah that scene because such an iconic scene too and the sound it made like the crackling sound i really enjoyed isn't that great it's so it's like satisfying oh yeah super satisfying and then i mean that's i was ready to get annoyed at the laser scene actually i was ready to be like well what possible use would they have for having this room that is just this laser right and then when they pull it out at the end at fort knocks i'm like Oh, they were just testing this laser in this giant room.

Yeah, but also I thought that he had it because it cuts through gold. So, like, he could cut all his gold up. I think that actually, that's probably why he had it. Right. Well, they have it also for Operation Grand Slam to open the Fort Knoxville. Right, right. So those guys, so the mot, let me just, this is called the bathroom break, clear it up for Maria. B, B, C, FM.

B, B, C, FM. The BBC FM. So those guys that were in the room with the maps and everything were mobsters that were in business with him. Yes. So he had them all come for just like a meeting and that's when he laid it out to them the plan. But he never wanted to use them for the plan. That's the confusing thing. And I think it's a hole in the script.

Why he's going to kill them after just giving all this exposition that is really meant for the audience. Well, is that because... I'm back. Is that because he didn't want to... He seemed to owe each of them a million dollars. Yeah. But then why knock them out for 24 hours

and then wake them up? Because it's not 24 hours. That's what we learn that. It's actually lethal. Yeah, because I don't think Pussy Galore would have agreed to go along with it if she knew she was killing 60,000 people. Also, with the amount of money he spent on that goddamn map room,

he could have just paid them off. Well, I like that table. Oh, that whole room. It goes to my theory that any map room in any movie is going to be amazing. Like the Map Room and Raiders of the Lost Dark, Octopussy, this one? Could you imagine being a kid and having a table like that that slips over and it's that, like, a model of something? But it doesn't even just flip. It also pivots on one leg for no real reason to change places in the room.

It's a lot of hydraulics happening in this movie. It has that noise. And also like the... This noise. Oh, wow. This is your map room, Matt. The production design at the Fort Knox set, like, I also think that the opening of the safe

and the bottom of the safe dropping and the floor coming over that bottom of the safe so that things could be wheeled in and out of there was ridiculous. The whole thing's ridiculous, and it's all Ken Adam. Well, it made me wonder a lot about the production of money and the process. Because, like, watching all this,

I was going like, I had just so many questions. I mean, I don't know if you guys are getting this, but when I watch movies, I really get a lot of questions in my head that... Oh, what do you mean? You're like, what is money? Why do we have money?

Yes, yes. Oh, you go to like philosophical questions. Oh, no, no, not philosophical, like... No, logistical questions. It's a house of cards. It really is a house of cards. It's like... The whole global financial system is based still on gold

and the value of gold. And then they... I don't understand that. Uh-huh. Yeah, see what I was saying? So is it just whoever finds the most gold gets it? No. Wait.

Well, back then, the American dollar meant for every dollar that there was in circulation, there was the same amount of worth in gold at Fort Knox or various other places. That's a good question. Pillaging, mining. Yeah, like they just found it in the ground and they were like, this is how much money America has. The government has their own mining stuff and then people can privately mine. Yes, but we're not on the gold standard anymore. I think Nixon took us off the gold standard.

So now we're just on an agreement that this money equals this, this. And it's really like at any time people just go like, nope, it's crazy. I mean, that's why you have crazy inflation in like the Congo where it's, you know, $500,000 is worth about $1.50. Because people kept printing money. Yep. Yes. Dictators will print money sometimes and inflate.

So Fort Knox has, there's still all that gold at Fort Knox, but it doesn't matter as much any, so it's not. Is it now just a National Reserve or something? It's a gold reserve. But for what? I guess. I think for any time we're going to need to dump off some gold. Or just emergencies? Once we're in a barter system? Economy was to collapse? It makes me angry that I can't get this stuff through my head. Well, I don't think it's your fault. A, explaining it poorly. Not even explaining it. B, not very good at. at what we're doing right now. And see, we don't understand either.

The thing is, it's not like some guy just said, hey, I came up with this system. This system is a result of many people over many years tweaking and twisting some original idea and it has now no semblance of it. I don't know if that's true. No, it is true because two presidents, it was, who was it? William Jennings Bryan was running against one of our presidents and William Jennings-Bryan wanted to go on the silver system like England, and the president that won wanted to go on the gold system, and then it's been the gold system all the way through Nixon, and now we're not on it anymore.

That's that I think I do know. That's why when you say you have English money, it's 25 pounds sterling. Yes. Wow. That's why their money is called. Ours should be called the golds or the bullions. What is theirs called? The pounds.

Pound sterling. Oh, well, that's something you don't learn every day. Oh, God. But check this out. I was doing some math last night when we were watching this. On the gold and how much it would be worth now? No, I was doing it because they say when Connery reveals Goldfinger's plot and says it'll be radioactive gold for 57 years and Gollfinger goes 58 exactly. You did?

So 2022 is when that money would become. Ready to go again. Yeah, we could use it again. We are five years away from that radioactive money. This is another thing that made that confuse me. So his whole plan was, explain his plan. His whole plan was to destroy America's gold so that his gold would be the only major reserve of gold and he would become the wealthiest. He would control currency, essentially.

Why didn't you just steal all America's gold? Because they said that. He couldn't have enough trucks. Yeah, he would take too much time in trucks. He couldn't have done it. He could do everything else, but he can't get enough trucks. Well, you have to have a certain willing suspension of discipline. Yeah, and like two dollars.

I had tons and tons. And making it radioactive, how would people have known it was radioactive? They just say, hey, this gold's radioactive. Yeah, it just sits in there. But the gold just sits in there. Yeah, it also would be like, hey, we have this gold, guys. It's good. Just going to wait some years.

They just know one touch it. Yeah. That's true. It's not like they're constantly touching gold right now. No, you never touch it. If anything, it's a good investment, it's like a cash deferred bond where you just like, in 58 years, this really good pay off. It's like what Enron was. That's what I just learned about.

what Enron was doing. Future. Future. Futures trading. Future trading. Yeah, but they were cheating it. No, I know, but I couldn't, when I first learned about futures trading three days ago, I couldn't believe it. There's a couple.

I mean, have you heard of it? No, I'll have to look it up. We should watch that documentary. Well, there's a lot about futures sort of in casino royale. That's right. And short-sitting. When 9-11 happened, someone made a killing. Oh, very good.

Oh, nice. Oh, nice. Very good. I think that's paraphrased, but... Speaking of lines from Bond, this is my favorite line, maybe in a Bond movie. Pussy Galore to Champagne Leader commence Rockabai Baby. Oh, yeah. Isn't that great?

Yeah, that is it. The Champagne Leader? Yeah, her, like, head pilot was named Champagne Leader. Wow, I liked all those girls. Yeah. Yeah. All the pilots. Yeah.

The baby is in... What does she say? The baby is in the crib. Isn't that, like, how they... Yes. It's like... Yeah, the baby is asleep. or something?

Oh, yeah. Were those supposed to be all her little lovers? Yes. I think so. Yeah. Well, that's nice. See, I'd watch that movie.

What about a movie where Pussy Galer's Flying Circus fights Octopus's circus girls. They're acrobats. I feel like the planes would win? Yeah, probably. Because they would just fly the planes

into the acrobats. I don't know. They would get chopped up in the propellers. Did we see the girls doing a circus show? We saw them flying. We saw the flying in formation. They were just trained.

Oh. Oh, so I thought they jumped out of the planes and did like water skied in the air. What? Wait a second. Wait a second, Amanda. I swear I saw that somewhere. Wait a minute. This is the new NOL moment.

Wait, what? Like, I thought I had seen. Like, so they're trailing behind being towed by a rope. Yeah. But they're not parachuting. They're riding the chem trails. To be accurate. To be accurate.

Amanda suggested that. they are water skiing in the air. Yeah, but I'm sorry, have I not seen that somewhere? Not in this movie. You can't water ski in air. And you wouldn't... Air skiing. She's talking about the Silver Surfer, Fantastic Force Silver Surfer.

Please, someone do a drawing. Matt, when you had that woman on, I was there too. Did I not see her water skiing in the air behind an airplane? No. Was she water skiing behind a boat? No. What do you mean behind an airplane? There's something in James Bond where there's people on skis, girls on skis?

Yes. Is there? Girls on skis? Sure, the world is not enough. I mean water skis, a group of them. Are you not thinking, maybe you're thinking of when we watch License to Kill, he water skis on his feet, on his bare feet. No, no.

I'm thinking of a bunch of girls doing circus tricks in the air. I know what you're thinking of. Jaws 2 when we watched it outdoor on the movie screen, they do a water skiing pyramid where they're all on it. No? No. In the air. Wait, you can't water ski in the air.

What are you talking about? Which is a good idea. I guess it's like parasailing, but with ski. But you can't, you can't, you would only be holding and flying like Superman. You can't just get flat out behind a plane. No, if you have a parasail and you have skis on. Behind a plane, you would get ripped to shreds. I think there's a way to do it.

So the circus is, the girls don't ever leave the plane. The circus is them just doing tricks inside the plane. Yeah, that's what a flying. tricks. They're not inside the cabin doing tumbles and suns and something. You want to see a card? They're flying the plane in a cool. Don't worry about it.

I thought there was some scene where they jumped out of the plane, all the girls. Wait, someone gets sucked out of a plane. I know, I know. But there is like skydiving, fighting scenes in bond. With the girls. No, there's no. Okay. Never mind.

Are we forgetting something? You sure it's not Jaws 2 where they're water skiing like girls on? There was something you showed me of the girls with girls. Oh, that's even Jaws 3. What am I talking about? I was getting progressively more upset internally. Like, she can't. I want to know what it is too.

What's going on? I think it's just what I saw, but my, I filled in some blanks incorrectly. I love it. I think you filled them incorrectly. I think that's a good news for. I think this is the kind of joy that Amanda Maria brings to this podcast. I think I heard circus and I filled in some blanks. That doesn't even make sense because no one water skis at a circus.

Well, yeah. I thought there was some tricks being done outside the plane, you know, when like girls are standing on the planes. You know what I mean in the old time? You're not thinking of Carl Pilkington? Yeah, I know. That kind of thing. That kind of thing where it was more of like they skydived in synchronicity from the planes.

I see. That's what I thought. Okay. water skiing behind a plane In my mind There's a rope towing a woman Who's also somehow standing perpendicular to the plane But also there are jets shooting water right below her

So she's on skis Is it like a water plane That maybe is pulling him jet skiing? Maybe that's what you're thinking of That's what I was suggesting Maybe But there also is some like air acrobatics in that movie Where they grab a plane and tip it up

Okay That's maybe what I'm thinking. And they do skydive in that movie. But they're men. Okay. I may have combined a few things. It's time for another gloft. Margot was just looking up at you like, what's next?

She's like, hi. Oh, Margo. Hi. Marco could be a bond girl. It's time for another gloft, Margo. Pussy. All right. Gloft number four, when the soldiers wake up and Felix Lai

is lying outside the window like resting, the soldier on the ground that gets up below him has a wet butt. Like he has a big, like round butt crack wetness. It's small. It's maybe silver, like a silver dollar. Like a sweat. Yeah, but it's just his butt, like the center of his butt.

No, I think he was lying on wet grass. But why would the rest of his butt not be wet? I think he was pinched in his butt. Oh, no. What pinched in his butt? His fatigues. You think his fatigues pinched in his butt? And he had a sweaty button.

Yeah, because he was lying there all day. You think he was so sweaty? How long did they have to lie there? I mean, this is Kentucky, after all. Were they shooting this in Kentucky? Uh-huh. You see all the Kentucky fried chicken signs? Maybe they didn't.

They really were lingering on some of those old signs in a strange way. But Kentucky, well, the KFC probably gave them a... I liked looking at those scenes where they were just lingering on the signs. Yeah. All right. cut to the end then when they're locked in Fort Knox. Yeah. When Bond has to fight Odd Job, what the hell is that pole that he just finds behind the

cart? What is that thing? It looks metal, but when it breaks, it's wood. What is it for? It's probably a leverage pole for getting carts over bumps. Wow. You heard it here. Wait, Odd Job breaks the pole and it turns to wood?

Yeah. Well, I think that it's not supposed to turn to wood. I think that's just showing his strength that, like, he did it so much that it splintered like wood. Okay. Is that right? What is it? What is it for?

Why is it shaped that? It's shaped like a nail set. It's a money pole. I just explained it to you. I think Matt might be right about wedging the carts over the head bumps. Yeah, sometimes there's bumps and they've got to get the cart over it. Why would it be round, though? It would be like a flat pry bar.

No, no, no, no. Well, was there some scaffolding? Was it part of a piece of scaffolding? It was just lying behind a cart. Well, there's bigger fish to fry in this movie. Absolutely. There are a bigger radioactive fish to fry in this movie. For instance, the guy that is thrown four stories over the railing by Odd Job.

Yeah. Are we to understand that Odd Job is so committed to henchmening that he is willing to die for Goldfinger? Definitely. And not even that, just for an economic plan. You guys keep talking. I'm going to feed Margo because she's driving us crazy. Wait a minute. Welcome edition of the podcast.

So he, but what's his motivation? Odd Job? Yeah. He's just a loyal man. He is. Maybe at some point Goldfinger saved Odd Job's life. I think that could be true. Or Odd Job has nothing else and Goldfinger is his god.

Odd Job might have no real family. You know, he might have so committed himself to having, physical abilities that far surpass others. The crushing of a golf ball, for instance. He's a mutant, basically. Yeah, maybe he was cast aside. And then the one person that gave him love and gave him respect was Goldfinger. I mean, he's also, you know, seems like he sets his mind to something,

and then he's not going to stop until he gets it done. Yeah. We also have Jill Masterson, who's just, who's paid to only be seen with Goldfinger. Well, that comes up twice, actually. Is there a chance that Goldfinger is a crime? closeted homosexual and that odd job is his lover? Yes, I think there is, because that comes up with pussy too, where Bond seems to be obsessed with these women sleeping with Goldfinger, and both of them are like, no, I don't.

Also, but Goldfinger makes a little move on Pussy Galore when they're drinking the mint tulips, and he goes, like, go put on something nice, and he grabs her hand, and she pulls her hand away, and he kind of gives a look like, she's a lesbian, clearly. Or maybe it looks like, oh, honey, I don't want you either. Girlfriend. Oh, wow. I mean, there's a lot of stuff character-wise that isn't explored in this movie where you just have to fill in the blanks yourself. And so I think there's a lot of different interpretations. So what's your final thoughts on Goldfinger Girls? Yeah, I thought it was really fun. It kept my attention. There was a lot of parts of the movie that I recognized from other movies that had derived from Goldfinger, mostly Austin Powers.

Sure. Yeah. That's true. But I really liked it. You know, I, yeah, I thought it was a really fun movie. Yeah, there were some loose ends. That's for sure. But it didn't bother me so much. Maybe our goal should be to have Amanda and Maria for at least one of every bond actor at some point.

Yeah, so. Because you've done three now. I'd be very pleased. Who have we not gone? Who have done Roger Moore, Brosnan or Lazenby? Oh, we'd be good, we're Brosnan girls. Because that was our bond. Yeah, we're Braznan.

We're Brazden babes. Well, right now, if you had to rank the three that you've seen, Dalton, Craig, and Connery, how would you rank them? Craig, baby, number one. Craig, number one. Who's number two? This guy. This guy. This is an unknown actor.

This guy. Who's got two thumbs and his number two? Donald's a bore. Okay. Yeah, I'd say Connery next. Connery's got a lot of personality, at least. Yeah. And Maria, what are your thoughts on the film?

I liked it. I mean, I thought it was, like, it was really cool to me. Like, it had a lot of, like, the opening sequence alone, I was like, this is just cool. It had that, it had that 60, it embodied the 60s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which was really cool to see and just, yeah, it was.

It's fun to watch. Yeah, it was super fun to watch. And it was fun to see all the stuff Casino Royale kind of took from it or, like, was inspired by from it. And I don't know. It's regarded. as like the best bond film of that era, right? So it was cool to finally get to see that. And yeah, I enjoyed it.

And I didn't find it to be like, you know, I wasn't watching it going like, oh my God. Like it didn't seem that absurd to me misogynistically or whatever. Like I didn't, it seemed just right on. Well, there is nothing shocking about it that you haven't seen before. I mean, if it was a movie made today, it would be terrible. Especially we watched it right after showing my family the first episode of Game of Thrones. Yeah, that was more offensive to me.

But I thought it was cool that like Paseek lore was a pilot. Like I thought all that stuff was cool that she was a pilot and like all those women were also like the pilots. Like that seemed kind of forward to me. Like fashion forward. Matt, on a scale of 000 to 007. That's how we rank these movies. Yeah. 000 to 007.

This movie, I think firmly, gets a 007 for me. Wow. 007? I'm going to go 006. Oh, Sean Bean. What gets a 007? Well, Cass and a Royal. Yeah, probably.

I mean, it's no secret, but we haven't gotten there yet. But, yeah. I mean, you are right. I have nowhere to go from 007. Yeah. I have to give this a 006.5. Okay, 006.5. What about you two?

006.5 because I have nowhere to go. I go. I go. Oh, so. Okay. Okay, wait. So, 007 is Casino Royale. Yes.

But that is such a hard 007. Yeah. Well, maybe there should only be one 007, you know? That's up to you in your own personal scale. I have to go like, I don't have much else to rate it against, though, because I've only seen a couple of bond films. So I'm going to go 005 at the moment because it was like good, but I'm not like fawning over it. Yeah, I'm going to change mine a little lower. or 005.5.

Because I didn't love any of the bond girls that much. You know, they didn't have much personality. I didn't care about him in their relationship with any of them. They weren't even that sexy to me. So I just felt like, and that's usually my favorite thing about a bond movie is like to see the girls, see them glammed up, see them in their pretty dresses. Honor Blackman is one of my favorite bond girls. I just think she's just. Pussy?

Yeah. Well, she's like a Vesper in a lot of way where she's immune to his charms. until she isn't until the power kiss. The power kiss will get you every time. But she's a confidence that some of the others I feel fake a little bit. She's just got, I don't know, she's got some weight to her though. Yeah, she does have that. Yeah, she was great in it, but I guess I just didn't.

The character, maybe? Yeah, I just didn't spark. She didn't sparkle to me. Well, you didn't know where she was coming from or why she was like, all of that stuff is left. Like Vesbury, you just know she's damaged. Yeah. So we got a 205-005.5-06 and a 006.5. Wow.

Wow, this one really spread. Spread out. All right, we're going to bring my dad in here for a little bit. He's the man that got me invested in James Bond, and we're going to talk to him. But before that, Matt, do you want to pick what Bond movies next? It's your choice. Yeah, I think we've had a lot of fun with Pierce Brosden and Sean Connery. And I thought, you know what?

we just did a tribute to him. Why not? Why not go back to him? View to a kill. It's going to be good. Is that a good one? Yeah. Most people think it's one of the worst.

It's one of our all-time favorites. So we're going to watch a view to a kill with Roger Moore. Yeah. Roger Moore, huh? It's his last film. He was 57 when he did it. Hey, what's what this movie Never Say Never Again? So that's a Bond film or it's not a Bond film?

It is, but it's an, unofficial bond film made by a different company that hired Sean Connery to come back. Wow. So have you guys done that one? Yeah. But we'll do it again. Is it a good one? It's as good as Thunderball.

Yeah. It's a remake of one of the older bonds that he already did. Weird. Yes. Yes. I couldn't decide what I was saying, wow or weird. Wow. And let me just real one last question.

What's the broccoli estate like? Do we have pictures or anything? That's a great question. Where are the broccoli? I feel like they're Santa Barbara or something. Well, they were in England for a long time. They have London offices. And they had an estate there, I think.

Because I just, I feel like they're rolling in it. I'm sure they've got a few. And I would just really like to see. Let me go grab my dad. You guys keep talking. Oh. Oh, yeah. You guys are going to slide over.

This is a big moment for us. We've never had a dad on the show. I guess you saw that. in Skyfall kind of his Bond's family life. Yeah, I want more, though. Yeah, I mean, if there's a pre, so like the Phantom Menace of Bond, I guess, would have to be his childhood. I can't believe you've never seen Quantum of Solis.

No, I've seen that, but I don't remember any of it. I've never seen Spectre. You have to, you guys really, I highly recommend you watch Casino Royal and Quantum of Salas within a span of, hello, please. This is Jim Gourley, everybody. You guys probably met him briefly. at the wedding. This is the man that got me got me where I am today

James Bondwise and many other wises. Hi, Dad. How are you? I'm sorry, I woke you up. You're resting nicely on the couch. We like to poke people awake and put a microphone in their face. Really just get them talking. You guys have the same smile. They have the same smile. Yeah, it's nice.

Aw. It's the same smile. This is, this is. Terrific. I didn't know this was an audition. No. Well, I'm actually looking to replace Matt, so I think you might have the chops, sir. Let me see how it was.

My dad showed me my first Bond films. Probably at such an early age, we wouldn't even remember what the first one was at home, but we saw Octopusy and the theater together. That was my first, right? Yeah. Yeah. You probably remember much better than I do. Yeah.

But I remember we would, you know, on many weekends, we'd go to the video store. up at your place and just go like basically which bond film should we pick out this time well we haven't seen this one in a while what's this one i don't know and back then we weren't like i didn't know everything there was to know so it was it was always like a mystery as to whether we'd even seen it or what was going to happen in that movie yeah do you remember your early experience with bond like when you would have seen them when they first came out when they came out yeah in the 60s do you have any like recollections of those experiences absolutely actually one thing i remember a lot about is that

they're really, really popular in the movies. I mean, maybe not so much at first, but then it kind of spurred a whole rush of people buying Ian Fleming books, and I did that too. You did, yeah. I read those.

But do you remember seeing Dr. No? Did you see Dr. No? Did you see Dr. No? That's amazing. God. I think it was that? That's the first one. That's the first one. Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. I saw pretty much all of them. along the way, but in the old days, Matt and I used to go together. Yeah.

That's right. And then we went to see Specter together with Dana and Amanda. Yeah, and Amanda. Yeah, I had already seen it twice in theaters with Matt, so then Jim and Dana wanted to see it. And we went to the Lie-down Theater, which is like... That's not its name, but that's what it is. The seat recline and you can lie down. And I was like, yeah, I'll go with you guys.

And then I sat in the lie-down chair, put the blanket over, my head and slept through the whole movie. Yeah, but I can't blame you. It's like a $30 ticket. But it's comfortable and the food's good and the beauty of their food at the laydown theater, as we'll call it from now on, is that they, it's all finger foods. No silverware needs to be clanking throughout the movies. Oh, I never even thought about that.

Well, even if they needed silverware, it could be plastic. That's true. But they designed the menu to be eating with your hands. That is fascinating. Or felt. Yeah, felt. So be really quiet. The felt fork.

Yeah. Dad, we watched Goldfinger last night. What were your thoughts on it? It's probably been a while since you'd seen it, right? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. As a matter of fact, I can remember parts of it vividly, and other parts I had totally forgotten about.

And so it was a lot of fun. I mean, I think maybe it's time for me to do another round. Oh. You think? Oh. Well, we could certainly make that number one on the agenda while you're here. We could do some more. You know I'm up for it.

And now I know I have to watch a view to a kill coming up. That's exciting to me. That's what we're going to do next. That's next for us, yeah. Matt chose that one next. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah.

And also, just looking at it, I mean, it was still, I thought, a very viable movie. Yeah. I mean, it's timeless, I think. I also will say the cut of his suits in this movie are very current. Oh, yeah. He's got a tapered leg. I audibly went, now that's a nice suit when we were watching Golden Finger. Golden Finger.

But the coat seems. cut wide, especially with broad shoulders, they almost feel 90s to me, the tops. A little bit, but I think with the waistcoat on, he's always wearing a three-piece in this movie, which I love. And I think that cut is coming back into style. Seems like it, yeah. Nothing beats that Casino Real suit. Which one? Oh, at the end? No, the, the, when she tailors his suit. Oh, he's tucks. Oh, yeah. I mean, I've never seen anything like that. I don't know. Let's talk about what Wimbled Oh, yeah. All right, Dad.

That's what I want to know from you is what do you think when you were very young? How old were you the first time? I don't know how old I was when we first watched, but I definitely remember going to see Octopus, and I remember I would have been 10 years old. So that's a real one to take a kid to because you're, like, forced to make that kid realize there's something going on with the name of this movie. And I remember thinking, like, why are, why do people have a problem?

talking about this movie and what's the deal. And so it, I don't think I put it together till later, but that movie's pretty tame as far as the sexuality goes. Yeah, I think they all the, I think the later Roger Moore has got there, got to a very tame place. They had to. Yeah, because it just appeared to be weird having, you know, pot-belly Roger Moore running around with these women. But all the opening titles have all these, you know, silhouettes of naked women. And I, I don't remember hating that as a kid. I do remember feeling like I was gaming the system somehow like, yeah, I love Bond movies. Maybe we had to watch a lot of them just, you know, pick them up from the video store because

you were probably too young to get into the theater. Yeah, without you, I bet, because, well, they were PG. Well, they were all PG-13 at that point. Yeah. Those were the days. I do remember the time that we rented on Her Majesty Secret Service, and I didn't know there was a guy who played Bond one time. And so we were watching it together kind of going,

is this James Bond? We kept expecting Connery or Roger Moore to come in. And we thought maybe like, oh, this is a guy who's like being an imposter for James Bond is going to get killed and then Connery's going to come in. And then we realized, no, there was this one at that time boring guy. Yeah. Little did we know. He's probably the least boring of the bunch.

Yeah. Well, Dad, do you have any advice for us as Bond watchers going forward. Any anything you can, any words of advice, any wisdom? Yeah. Just keep going. Why not? Go for it. You know, I was going to say one other thing too, because I read that write-up in Wikipedia today

when we were on our way down to breakfast. Yeah. It's really good. It's a good write-up, but do you know how much that cost? Oh, no. Take a guess. Take a guess. I mean, a while last guess. So in 60s money? How much? how much it cost? How much they spent on? What would have done in the 60s money, yeah.

I'll say. But it was American money. Yeah. I'll say 25 million. What would you say, Matt? I was going to say maybe six. Six million. Okay.

And then how long did it take to pay off? Oh, I'd say a layered question. Pretty quickly. It had to. It was a huge hit. Yeah, I'd say. Had to make back its money. The first weekend, right?

Two weeks. So how much did it cost? cost? Three million dollars? Wow. I have that on me. I mean, this blew me away because you look at that movie. It was filmed in Switzerland and England and I guess Kentucky and Florida. Yeah. I mean, how do they move all those people around there and all that do that for three million bucks? That's crazy. Three million. Yeah, because that's right. I should have known that because I remember Dr. No was for a clean one million dollars. Its box office was $125 million. Of course, I mean, I don't know what, well, I guess it's in the movie theater, so how many times of people?

Connery's a box office, they just had a chart out about this. Oh, I saw this. He's the biggest, right? He's the biggest, right? He took in as bond $2.1 billion when adjusted for inflation. And Craig's is the lowest. 998 million. Why is his lowest?

And that was, by the way, that's not worldwide. That's just domestic gross. Sean Connery has a stake in the box office, right? No, he would have by the end. He would have by the end. He would have by the end. He would have been negotiated, yeah. But the 998 makes sense because Skyfall made a billion on its own.

So they're just talking about domestic U.S. gross of movies. $998 million for Daniel Craig between the four of them. Wow. Is that average or that's total? Is it because there's more movies out now? Yes, and it's because like Goldfinger would play for six months. it'd be in the theater. You could go see it constantly and they'd bring it back into the theater after. Oh, man. Well, Pop, I'm glad you could join us for this year. You're the whole reason that I'm here doing this in the first place.

And that means more to me than you'll ever know. I mean, it's really the reason this podcast exists. He is. Your dad too. Yeah. I mean, we wouldn't have this podcast without our dads. We should just get our dads on. We should. Would your dad ever be in town or you ever be back there that we could do? We could do it. There's got to be a time where we, the four of us could get together and do an episode. Yeah. That'd be nice. Cool feeling. Boy, it would be real.

Especially if we had sons. Oh, let's have sons. I'll get on. Okay, let's have sons. All right. Do I got to say? No. He's going to power kiss you until you have a baby.

That's how it works. You can do the same. By the way, yeah, I think of all the movies you have to watch. I know. There'll be 25 at least by then. Oh, boy. That's going to be taking a lot of naps. Yeah, I'll be at the salon.

How many franchises have gone that long? No, none. Is there any? Fastly, Harris, is making its way. It is. Well, it's not quite there. Yeah. Max wouldn't come close.

No, they got four. I think realistically viable franchises still exist. The only thing that comes close to being around for as long as Bond is Star Trek, but Bond still has a four-year jump on Star Trek, so. And how many films? How many Star Trek films are there, like 10? 12, so half as many. Star Wars will catch up,

but it won't be like the exact same continuing saga. No, it'll never catch up. Friday the 13th was looking strong for a while. Harry Potter, but that... As far as exclusively film-wise, I don't think you're ever going to see anything in 23 movies. We should start one. What would it be?

I don't know, we figure out a movie and we do one every year and then in, you know, 30 years we'll be way ahead of Bond. Yeah. Well, but maybe not... They'll probably make like 10 by then. So in 40 years. We'll do two a year for a couple years. Salt.

Yeah, but how much is that going to cost? We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. We'll just do it for $3 million a picture. It'd be fun to see what the next one costs just against this one. Oh, yeah. What the last one cost? $1.75?

They keep bond in the like, definitely in the blockbuster range, but they're never the exorbitant ones. Yeah. I think it's also because so much of their cost. I mean, this has always been my theory, but it's just offset by all the brand placement. Yeah, they always put a Heineke. beer in and they always put

Omega watch. Drive some land rovers around. Yeah, they're funded quite heavily. Because people do run out and buy those products. You're looking at one right now. We are those people. Well, I'm those people. Wikipedia said something about that too, about branding, and I didn't pick it up until you said that, but also

the Aston Martin. Yeah, that's right. Was that the first one that had an Aston Martin? I don't know. Yes, it is. BNW did it for a while, too. And in fact, the Mustang and Goldfinger wasn't that the first release of that Mustang? And they said you can have it for this film, I think. Yeah.

Oh, the, yeah, the little Mustang. There's a couple of Mustangs in the movie, in the era of Bond. Yeah. He side jumps a Mustang and diamonds are forever. That's right. Margo agrees. But yeah, Carzard. All right.

Well, thank you, Pop. Thanks for having me on. Join us anytime. Marie and Amanda, same for you guys. Thanks for having us. Yeah, we're so glad to be here. Sorry. Guys are always welcome on James Bonding.

And we have chosen a view to a kill is the next Bond film. James Bonding will return, but next week, who knows what we're going to be talking about. Yeah, we've got to choose our next special topic for next week. I feel like by the time, the theme park episodes out, people are going to want us to do another one of those. That's going to be a good one. All right. That's my favorite in a while. All right, Matt.

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