James Bonding - Goldmember

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

Brian Aubert from Silversun Pickups is back and this time he's bringing bassist Niki Monninger! They join the Matts to wrap up the discussion on the Austin Powers series. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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It's the only place that appears in every movie. That's right. Is it every movie? Yeah. When is he not in London? I don't know, but rest assured we're going to be wearing suits. Yeah, I'm thinking I might pull out a three-piece for this, man.

That's what I like to hear. Yeah. So please, guys, if you are in London or can make it to London, September 16th at the London Podcast Festival, we will be there. I might even tell my sister and hang out with, she lives in England. I might even tell the queen. Matt and, Matt and, Matt and, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt,

James Bonding Podcast. Welcome to James Bonding, I'm Matt. And I'm Matt, too. And we're not only. only have we brought back a guest, but he's brought a guest with him, who is now our guest. Nikki. Brian from Silver Sun Pickups. Now, Nikki from Silver Sun Pickups.

Welcome. Such a good time. I had to bring a friend. Yeah. And now next week, Nikki, you're instructed to also bring a friend. Yeah. That's right. It's going to get really nuts in here.

And it has to be from the band. And then you can't run out of members. That's right. We keep adding them. You guys have to become the polyphonic spree. Yeah. Oh, good boy. Yeah.

How does that. How does that breakdown work at the end of the night? When they get the check from the venue, are they like, okay. All right, Bill, third trumpet. I'm pretty sure I can answer that. Full on cult. None of them are paid. That's a bad.

In fact, they're giving money to be. We saw them at the Derby in Los Angeles years ago. I remember thinking, this is amazing. And then we saw them again in Brooklyn. I went, I'm a little freaked out. Because they sell the robes. They sell them. So I think it's just like that you buy the robe and you go up there.

Yeah, you're probably right. I mean, that's kind of what it is. You're going to put down $40. Honestly, there's probably three people in that down. Is it a $40 rope? I remember it being reasonable. Should we? Of course, the entree into the cult has to be easy.

Are they still around? Should we join the Polygonics? Yeah. I mean, I think you can. Find out where they're playing. Just show up. We can start a cult-like and licensed to kill that Wayne Newton cult that they were Roads.

I love that Wayne Newton cult. Yeah. Bless your heart. Such a charm. Bless your heart. Nikki really wanted to come to this because she was part of it. of the whole thing when I turned the promotion of our album into James Bond-themed promotion. So she was there listening to every song.

It was James Bond non-stop. How did you feel about that? Yeah, how did you feel about that? You know, it's not something that I would initiate, but I was happy to go along with it. And, you know, it reminded me of a Voodo Kill and also all the nice theme songs and the Goldfinger theme song. Sure. When we were in San Francisco, listening to the Voodo Kills song.

Oh, that's got a feel. It felt great. Like all is right with the world. I think we talked about it last time, but I love the score in that movie. So do I. And I love the music helps. I was, it elevates that movie for me.

Listen in again to the art of the score podcast, their second episode on John Barry is, or on Bond is out, and they cover View to a Kill. And when you just hear that music isolated, forget about it. It's pretty amazing. The opening, the glacier when just that action stuff, even with the A-Team guitar, you know, like, whee-you-all-it-great. It gets me. Nikki, do you have a history with Bond at all?

do you care and we take all comers here you don't have to I have to admit I'm a casual watcher that's fine we like all perspective I feel like if it's on I'll watch it I've watched the beginning of gold gold finger like 25 times sure you never get past that I kind of stop but you said that you do like view to a kill and that means you're especially welcome here and I thought it was always interesting it's he starts surfing on the snow and then all of a sudden California girls comes on it feels very hot that is definitely the weirdest part. What version of California girls?

Because it's like not... I was wondering. No, that's because it's cheaper to buy just the right to perform the song than the actual recording. So do that in television when we did that a lot on the gold. Like if you watched Miami Vice or something, it would be... Miami Vice was one of the few that didn't really do it. They had Phil Collins and stuff. But like I remember watching my...

This is a weird story, but a friend and past guest of this show, Jeff Davis was on an episode of Highway to Heaven where he played like a really smart kid. that goes to college at like 11, and they were playing, who sings the song? Well, I spin you right around. Oh, dead or alive. Dead or alive.

Right. They had a re-recorded version of that. Oh, wow. Whoa, that's a specific song, too. That guy's performance is amazing. That would be strange to hear someone. It was weird, yeah. Because I remember that,

if you were watching those shows, you'd hear it in the background, and it just sounded, I didn't know what karaoke was back then, but it sounded like these strange versions of it, and I just assumed, as a kid, like, you're not allowed to have. have music on people. You can't, you can't do it. They're just not allowed. Yeah, and I will do that on the

Goldbergs a lot because we always, the end of the show, the show takes place in the 80s, so we always end the show with an 80s song and when, and when we can't afford the whatever, like, sometimes you get these quotes from these people and you're like, oh, you want a hundred thousand dollars for Panama? One hundred thousand dollars for us to play Panama. Frankly. I think it's worth it. One billion, gazillion, petrillion. Did you guys do a cover version of Panama? I think what we changed the song. But a lot of times what we'll do is like we'll work,

we'll write a performance into the show where it's the oldest sister on the show, Erica, she's a singer anyway, and she has a band on the show. So we'll just like end up writing a performance in and then we'll have her carry that through. Right. It's cheaper than a hundred thousand. You like to play? It saves you $100,000. To entertain Bich in the studio,

I'd like to try and play eruption on acoustic. Do you? That's right. Can you? No. Because there's no, none of that tapping system or anything. It's just funny. Like, acoustic noodling is so horrifying.

And I find when we first start these acoustic tours before our album, I haven't figured out what my map is going to be yet. So some people have the lucky, the lucky experience of hearing me do a solo and it sounds so crappy and they'll just nicki just like boom boom boom solo's on acoustic guitars

it's not be done they should not be done it's awful like I'll listen to like Julian Lage like play a fucking like he's this amazing like jazz player and I'll listen to him play something and I'll just be like at rock band it's funny because I think it's still on an acoustic guitar doesn't sound my favorite musicians are like solo acoustic guitar like Lindsay Buckingham and often Mark Knopfler.

I'm just realizing that's the common thread. They're finger pickers though. That's the thing. And there's almost like a ragtimey thing. I think writing on acoustic is one thing. But if you're transposing your electric loud song and you decide to go, it's just unless you're insanely amazing. Well, even if you like listen to like the solo of Layla,

like the recorded Layla solo and then you go back and you listen to clap and unplugged Layla. And you're like, oh, this is a completely different arrangement. And honestly, this still doesn't sound nearly as good as Layla. God, that record was, do you remember? That thing was huge. Oh, it was all I listened to. People don't know that that song was from the movie Rush.

Did you know that? The Tears in Heaven is from Jason Patrick. There's a second movie called Lift Me Up or so. Did I say second movie? There's a second song. Oh. I was like, this is a sequel to Rush. Clapton, a second song from that movie, that's really good too.

Yeah. And I had the cassette single of Tears and Heaven on the other side was that other single. I wish I still had my Casingles. Yeah. Well, I had the Ate track of that. I had the, I had creep. I remember my creep, Radiohead, a Casingle. Stand.

And the first time you played. You did? Not a Casingle. Which one? Smashing Pumpkins? Gish, yeah. Oh, wow. You should get Butch signed it.

You should. Well. I don't think I have it anymore. Let's all not forget about the soundtrack to John Travolta's Michael featuring Change the World. Oh, Michael. If I could change the world. Let's also not forget runaway train. Elton Jack.

Elton Jack. Hi, I'm Elton Jack. By the way, I don't think I've been in a... Elton Jack is like the Canadian. I don't think I've been in a whole food. That's a slightly different. Slightly different. I don't think I've been in a Whole Foods that wasn't playing Change the World at some point.

With Elton Jack? Yeah, or my father's eyes with... Oh, my father's eyes off of Pilgrim, the 2001 Clapton album. I always like it when you walk into a grocery store and they play Band-Aid not in the right season. Oh, yeah, I'll take it. Hey, I have a question.

Is it possible to digress before you've even gotten to your main topic because we've somehow done that? I don't think we have. Look, it's like, I like different versions of songs like the version of Sol Bossa Nova that Quincy Jones did in this. movie. And does a cameo. Oh my goodness.

We're back. And John Travolta plays a gold member. Hey. That was probably a better way. Austin Powers Gold member, the third and final, maybe not because we've since heard of the rebooting. I think this podcast has some the end leaves it open though. Got him a lot of people

around listening to this. Do you think, let's talk about that. If there's going to be a fourth Austin Powers, I didn't remember the ending of this movie and how it basically is in Seth Green's court as the new Dr. Evil. will they follow through or forget about it a la la the new Halloween and just wipe it clean.

Oh, I don't think they'll wipe it clean. They might just ignore the ending completely. Or just deal with it in a cursory way. I forgot that happened. But look, most of the people except mini-me are still around and available for this thing. Many me. How will they address the death of Vern Troier?

In a very fun and tributy way. He gets thrown to the sharks. Yeah, I know. That'd be the nicest thing they did. They're pretty rough on him. The way they treated him in this movie, probably not so well. Well, it's like it's the knick-knack boat fight times 20.

Yeah. Which I kind of enjoyed the escalation of it. Yeah. I really, Earnsroyer was very enjoyable in this movie. I agree with that. He was doing a lot of, they were allowing him a lot more freedom to actually emote.

He does more in this one than the second. Yeah. This is my favorite of the two mini-mee performances. Sure. I agree. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The movie as a whole, though.

Audience people, Nikki watched all three awesome. Powers movies. That is. To discuss this with you. I just wanted to prepare. And now it's funny because I watched him when my dad was over that day and I said, dad, let's watch some Austin Powers. And he said,

who is this. He had no idea who Austin Powers was. So it's interesting. It was like watching it with a kid. He's laughing and everything. And what was he doing? He just kept saying, who is this guy? What is he?

Did he? Did he? What happened to him in 1997? Where was he? I was in shock that he didn't know at least in passing. Did he at least like know the bond parallels in comparisons was that? Oh, I think he did that, but he was just like, who does this guy think he is? You know, that was his attitude to turn. Who does this guy think he is? And he was just like,

belly laughing. And so we watched the first and second ones and then we watched a quiet place. Took a little break. We needed like, wow, you guys, this is this all in a, in a night? And then. Was this all in one night? One day, one day. Wow. Wow. We had, we were off from recording. Right. And I just had a day watching movies with my dad. That's nice. It's a very hot day. I watched it yesterday and I'm a little, I'm having a hard time even remembering it that well. Because I watched The Incredibles.

I showed my three-year-old son, The Incredibles, and I loved that movie. And I was thinking how James Bond that movie is, and the score is unbelievable. Oh, that's really awesome. And then I watched Killing Eve, a couple episodes of that, and forgot. And I showed my three-year-old son that, of course. And then I woke up and I don't remember anything about Austin Power's cold. Your three-year-old son's a big Sandra O. Yes, he loves a head.

Well, he likes Phoebe Waller Bridge. But he knows she wrote it. That show is so good. Oh, my God. All right, so. Refresh me. I'm going to kind of fall along. Yeah, listen, I just want to state for the record of this movie.

You love it. This movie, I saw it in the movie theater. Now, let me just bring you all to 2002. Ooh, Tack of the Clones. Sure, big year. Big year for movie buffs like Matt. The Cack of the Clones came out. Like you, Matt.

Not me, Matt. Not third-person man. The two towers. But, wow, yeah, it was a big year. But Austin Powers Gold member came out and I went and I saw it. And I quite frankly thought it was the funniest thing I had seen in a long time. And then I dragged friends to it. And then I dragged more friends to it.

And then on my birthday, which was in August, it was still playing in the theater. And I made every. everyone go to the theater to watch Austin Towers Gold Member for the fourth or fifth time. Wow. And then I put the movie away and I had not seen it since 2002. So I was a little weary. I was like, okay, this is 16 years ago. I really enjoyed this movie.

I was, you know, fresh into college at that point. I'm sure I've grown as a person and this movie won't be as funny. And I watched it and it still tickled me. I was chuckling. I'm glad it held up for you because you really put. a lot of time into it. Yeah. It would have been sad if it didn't.

That's a heavy return on your investment. You know, I was ready for it to not be good. The movie had to be good for you. Yeah. And I'm worried that you needed it to be good because you had to face all that time. This would be really. Well, rewatching the second one prior to this, it made me sort of doubt myself of like, oh. Yeah, I'm with you.

No, no, no. I don't think this third one can be any good. And, you know, I don't want to spoil anything here, but I had a great time. I'm going to say. Well, first of all, let me say that my viewing of this the first time was at a bachelor party. What? In the middle of the day in Chicago. Interesting. Bachelor party?

That's the bachelor party? No, no. Sorry. Was it a bachelor party? It was. Was it a badger's a birthday party? I know. It was a buddy of mine who wanted a simple mellow bachelor party.

And I think it was like he was getting married in Chicago and we had already in a bachelor thing in L.A. where we went to a baseball game or something. And then we were all out there for the wedding and went to see. Went to see this movie. I don't even want to say it might have been the day of the wedding. Could that be right? I don't remember.

Right before he walked down the aisle. I squeezed in a little gold member. I can't go down the aisle until I see Mike Myers play four roles. But I'm going to say that I think I like on the whole. I like this movie better than the second one. Preparation H on the whole. Great joke. That's not a good joke.

Speaking of that, the only time this movie really doesn't work for me and doesn't work more than any of the other moments in any Austin. powers is the gold member stuff. And I just don't know if it's his way he mugs at the camera after. It's like he himself is aware that this character might not totally be working and is asking you to please enjoy it. Because he says something, even as the character, doesn't he? Like, I'm doing this like as a character.

He says, I'm from Holland. Isn't that weird? That's it. Like, isn't this character weird? You know what? In case you're not getting it. It distracts me. It's that whole, you know, Eddie Murphy as and Eddie Murphy.

Sure. Your Norbits and your clumps. The trailer from Back to Future 2 going Michael J. Fox Michael J. Fox and Michael J. Fox. And I remember even then thinking, huh. Was he the first one? Was Michael J. Fox?

I was proto multi-roll? No, Jerry Lewis did something like that with like hardly working. There was even a trailer like that, Jerry Lewis and Jerry Lewis. Jerry Lewis. Haley Mills, right? Right.

So even when he, like I don't even realize gold members there. in the end. And when Dr. Evil is just doing, now this is the Dr. Evil, I think I was thinking of when we watched the first one, where I was like, okay, I'm not into this. You're talking about the rapping and everything?

Dude, I couldn't. As soon as he gets into some skit in this movie, I remember thinking, oh boy, uh-oh, oh, we're glad to do 10 minutes of this now. When they take time out. I'm so tired. But all of a sudden they'll just throw a gold member in, he'll go, yeah, I'm watching this scene.

You know, he'll say like, oh, emotional. or just something weird. I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, he throws him in there and just seems like, what is, what's this guy doing? To the point when Dr. Evil becomes good, I thought, oh, that's that. I forgot there's another villain in this movie. Sure. And then he just kind of pops up.

Which I think is, that's some good storytelling right there. When you're like so distracted by this plot that you forget. Yeah. You know, it's like the classic James Bond thing. You've dispatched the main villain. Don't forget the henchmen. Right. You know.

There's, I mean, there's some funny. I don't know how I feel about that. I enjoyed the father-son relationships. Did you? I did too. Yeah. Oh, I forgot about Michael King. And the evil, Dr. Evil's father-son relationship.

I don't remember him casting Minnie Me aside. I didn't remember any of that. I don't either. Yeah. I, God, there's a lot of this movie that I just chuckle at. I don't, the whole, just some of the small stuff is very funny to me. Like when they're sitting around the table at the very,

beginning of the movie when he's talking about his evil plan and it's just the back and forth between him and Mindy Sterling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

And they're like, like, that stuff. I'm just like delighted by it. I think that stuff is really, really great. That's pretty funny. And, but I don't remember, and I didn't see two. I didn't watch it.

I heard you guys talk about two. Yeah. So I remember thinking maybe I came down a little hard on two and three when I brought up on the last podcast. I don't think, because I think you were like, oh, I think, no, they're the good ones. And I went, oh, maybe I'm wrong. And then I heard you guys talking about, oh, yes. So I don't remember Austin.

This movie was just really gross. It was just constantly so gross all the time. And I don't remember the first one being this gross. Was the second one just constantly farts and shits? And the skin eating. Oh, bud. I mean, in a one way I want to hand it to him. Save me from myself.

What he's saying save me from myself? And he hands it to Beyonce Noles. Oh, the shining star. The beacon of light in this movie is Beyonce. Even her fucking laugh. Brilliant. Her fake laugh in the movie is like amazing. Well, knowing what you know about Beyonce now,

it's a little hard to watch her because this movie is not dignified enough to welcome her presence. I was like, is that a stand-in when Werner humps the leg of Beyonce? He's like, yeah, there's jokes happening around Beyonce that I feel embarrassed. Like, oh. I'm so sorry, Bejohn. I wonder how she feels about it now. She's good. And even in those car scenes or she's talking, she's really, she's good.

She would be a great bond. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's a great in the movie. And I remember going into the movie going like, how was she going to be? Because I had just known her from Destiny's Child at that point. And when I watched it, I was like, oh, she's great. Yeah.

She's like really good. She really carries the screen and there's like. She does. She's so game. Yes. And she's like selling. There's a couple moments in there. where she's really selling the, like, when she laughs at the,

when she's laughing at the America's Funniest Home Videos clip on the thing, she just has this laugh that is just like so joyous and beautiful and natural. And it's just like, oh, she's such, she's very good. I think she's so good that I almost thought, I was noticing the cracks in Austin Powers a little more this time. I agree. He was busy. He was running back and forth playing so many parts.

But, yeah, Beyonce is pretty stunning in this movie. And even when she has to do the subtitle, when she's kind of... That is really... That was a funny part. Such a funny bit. I loved that bit. That is... That one actually was a moment I went, that's truly original.

I'd never seen that. It's also a funny convention. And it wasn't shock humor because there was a lot of just like body shock humor. There was a lot of cheap, easy relying on... Like that bastard. I was just like, Wednesday's going to end. And so over the wirework thing. But I have a question about that.

Oh, by the way, just told Mick G time, right? But I don't know because... Oh, totally. This is Charlie's Angels universe. Yeah, right? But I have a question about that. That wirework scene, I even turned to Amanda and I asked them, like, are they, they're intending to break the fourth wall here?

I don't know. I don't know. Completely. Oh, no, no. That, no. I don't think that was supposed to be the movie crew. I watched it thinking that exact same thing. I was like, oh, are they going to break the fourth wall?

And then when they go to the crew, I don't think it... I think it's just supposed to be the... No, I just think it's supposed to be like a wirework, a group of guys who do the wirework for the Zoomer restaurant. Yeah, but I don't know. And I think that's a big... I mean, listen, I'm completely confused on whether the movie is doing this or not. And it does it.

Clearly, it's doing it because he goes and talks to Quincy Jones. But even that is sort of like in these sort of music video setups. It reminds me about... Like a one of... Brother's cartoon where they would address people in the theater or they'd sometimes put the silhouettes of heads up like they're looking in the theater or something. Did you ever see Gremlins too in the theater? Yeah. I didn't see it in the theater.

It's hard because when it went on video, they had to do a whole other change up because the middle of the movie, the film breaks. Yeah. And literally it starts shaking in breaks and it's just white. And people in the audience really believed it. and then you start seeing the shadows of the gremlins, and they started putting on other reels. It was kind of mind-blowing that they did that. But I can't tell with Austin Powers 3 if it knows it's a movie,

even though he's reading subtitles, you know, and they're doing so many, like, airplane kind of gags, like, with asparagus and, you know. Yeah. I just don't know what it, you know, can't quite tell. Did you like the beginning of this movie? The intro? I like that they have Dr. Reble get captured at the beginning of the movie. I like that.

Are you talking about the like I mean the whole singing in the rain part how do you feel about Tom Cruise? Yes. Tom Cruise, Kevin Spacey,

Danny DeVito situation. Danny DeVito made me laugh out loud when he's like but you know what I mean? Like I can't tell if this is at a time

where that's really amazing or if I've seen this so many times weirdly you have to think back to when that movie came out and when you're watching that intro you're just like oh they've gone huge big budget Austin Powers here.

I was thinking all the things I don't like about those McGee movies. And I'm thinking of the Mission Impossible 2, John Wu. Totally. One, you know. Well, that's funny. I just watched Mission Impossible 2. Is it?

People hate it so much. I think it might be fine. It's awful. Is it? Okay. It's not that it's not enjoyable. I remember being awful. It's flat out awful.

Is it? Yeah. And, but that opening in the desert like Monument Valley area is, is totally just right from that. And I guess because you got Tom Cruise. I like that reference. That was, I did that. like that part that Tom Cruise is doing like a Mission Impossible move. Yeah.

Yeah. Do you think, I didn't love it, but I thought it was. Well, is this is one of the first to do that kind of like stunt casting to put, because I can think of like Peewey Herman's Big Adventure did that with. That's all I think about.

Forgell and James Brolin. I can't not think about that. Because that to me is the, it's perfectly done like, paging Mr. Herman. Yeah. Yeah. But I did.

I found the part. I just wanted to play Beyonce. Just that moment, just because she's just a better actress than everybody in the movie. She is. I think she is. Good morning, sunshine. How did you sleep? Great.

Me too. These lips could talk. Oh, hello. I also enjoy the other gag that they do a couple of times with Michael York, where she's like, what's happening? And what's happening, Basil? And he's like, a lot is happening. And I'm like, what's shaking? A lot is shaking.

I like Basil. I do too. And the actors, they got to play the younger versions of them were all so good. That worked for me too. And it took me a minute to realize that clearly he's being dubbed, right? Like the kid. I don't know. Because the kid playing Mike Myers.

They're both nailing it. You think that guy? That's not the guy playing Basil? He may have been ADR'd, but I don't know, who knows. No, I think he really. So here's the, here's the laugh I was talking about. What does this thing do? Well, it's called the internet.

It's completely revolutionized the way we live and access vital information. For example, have a look at this. Look at the monkey. He's going to speak. Oh, wow. Now that's vital information. Now here, okay, right there. Here's where the movie loses me because then she had to explain it.

She goes, now that's vital information, all right. And I was like, oh, God. I'm too hard on this movie. I love Fred Savage. That was Fred Savage. I like the mole stuff too. Mool! Like, and there's that mole when he's doing moly, moly, moly at the end of that scene.

When Michael York tells him to shut up, you can hear Mike Myers break at the end of the last moly. I could have sworn when we were about to start watching all these that like that was in the first movie, definitely the second, if not the first. And I had no idea it was all the way to the last. the third. These movies run together. Right. Even now. I know. It's hard for me to... You've seen all three in one or two days. Yeah. No, and then I started

thinking back. Yeah. And I still like running all together. I mean... Do you have a favorite of the three? Yeah, which one is your favorite? I actually, uh, I think this is the third one is my favorite. Whoa. I agree. Then it would go one and then two. Yeah. That's correct. But the thing about it is like Mike, You did it. You did it. As Austin Powers, he can say all these things, but he's at heart.

He's sweet, and so is Dr. Eval. Yeah. I also like this running thing of the character of Austin Powers of being annoyed at people who have potty mouths. That was funny. Which happens in each of the three movies. Oh, yeah. What did you think about the Fook Me girls?

The Fook Me thing was so silly. It was so silly. I see, I think it's just, oh, sorry. Oh, I didn't like. love, love that part. You didn't love love that part? Yeah, that was weird to me. I don't know why.

Did you enjoy Susanna Hoffs and Ming-Tee? Yes, always, always. And because you guys mentioned it last time. One of my favorite singer-songwriter, so my God. But I just, the beginning with Britney Spears and all that. This was one of those things that I think I loved Austin Powers. The first one for it's, for it just existing and being tiny. It didn't know what it was.

Yeah, and it was just kind of making these things move. And this one, I was like, whoa, this is God. gotten to the part where it's gone too far. These major stars everywhere. And look how funny it is them playing Austin Powers and Dr. Evil. Would you put the second movie above this one? I don't remember the second movie. Yeah, I know.

That's right. I don't remember. I probably... I think had you watched the second movie recently? I would like this more. Yeah, absolutely. I think you might be right, too. Yeah.

I didn't like that Elizabeth Hurley just died. I know. Oh, I've even thought that too. Moving on. Like, they're trying to write her out. But not enough of an argument where she wouldn't come back to do her dismissal. Yeah, the beginning It's sort of like

You know, when you first see awesome powers And they do these things They're so funny because you're watching it And you're like, what is this? This is really cool. And then this movie, You have to know what they're referencing Because if you don't,

It's like, well, why did Britney Spears just shoot things out of her boobs in her head explode? They're like just, remember? We reference, reference, reference. It's like you know a femme bot by now. No, but you know what I mean? It's just not funny on its own. It's just like, remember we did that, but look, we're doing that again.

And I think they even make a joke in this movie about that, which is really awkward to watch the Osbournes. Oh, but the Osbournes call out that joke. But even just watching the Osbournes, I was like, oh, this is so deep. I like the ending. You have the Blueprint thing? That was funny. Yeah, the Blupper thing was pretty good. But what a time, just like specific timely thing of like, they, that must have been the peak of the Osbournes.

Oh, yeah. We've got to have the Osbournes. And when you watch it now, you go, what? That was never going to last. No way. It was never going to be something we need to stamp in culture. Like, that's hilarious. I think, yeah, I mean, but they do make the joke.

Like, they're just making the same joke over and over again. I kind of liked it. They made that joke. You know, I think why it works. This is a weird, I'm like going to be an Austin Powers pop culture apologist here. I think it's fine. I think why it works is they, what they hit the cultural touchstones of the 60s so hard. Like this is what the 60s was like, right?

So then they're like, and then when they go back to the 70s, they're like, this was the 70s, roller derby, disco, you know, swingers. And then when they're in the 90s, when the first one, it's just like, you know, it's Elizabeth Hurley explaining the 90s to him and so on and so forth. And then I think just for this to be so 2000, early 2000. I agree, but like, you know how Britney Spears like legend has sustained? everybody remembers the Osbournes, but it's not something,

it was a blip. Like it just, it flashed and it was gone. Yeah. So it's weird to see that preserved almost like an amber now. And their kids. Like I know,

like, you know, their kids must be like, huh. Yeah, there we are on the Austin Powers. If they watch it, they forget that they were in it.

Like, what? Oh, yeah, like they have no recollection of recording that. Yeah. They have no action

that half day in the house. I thought it was so strange too. They put in the scene of Britney Spears wanting to date mini me because he has a big penis. I was like, whoa, listen to it.

She's like, she's just, she's so moved by the idea of a big penis. She's like, I have to add. Look, she and Kevin Federline had a whirlwind romance, and they have two kids. I think one of them, they nicknamed French Fry or something. Like, there's like everything about the whole persona of Brittany at the time. It's just, it's just like weird to think back to that era

of Britney Spears. Because then you have that era with Britney Spears, then you have the era where she, understandably so, and you got to her. And then you have the post that era, which is the Vegas Britney. Yeah. Right. There's four distinct Britney periods. I did chuck hole when he said, oops, I did it again. I was like, I was trying to think of my dad watching it because he didn't watch the third.

That's how these movies should be watched. I just was trying to look at it optimistically and just like, this is a fun of the thing. That's funny you should say it that way. That's a good thing. That is true. I think, well, oh, sorry. That's why. I saw this movie.

I saw the first Austin Powers for my birthday as well, Matt. With my dad and my stepmom. And they did not get it for a second. Like they just, I guess my dad got the bond parallels. But I remember my stepmom just kind of being like, what is this? But this has now kind of transitioned into what today we would call like dad humor. Exactly. So when you put it that way, it's like, dad.

A title of the podcast. In a way, though, it's like, you know how you're supposed to, as a critic generally, you're supposed to judge something for what its intended effect is. Yes. And rather than come at this from like a modern sense of comedy, you should in a way kind of go like, yeah, you should watch this as a dad. Totally. I agree with that.

And I know that we pick apart bond for its problems and stuff like that. And ultimately you can choose to watch those movies of the. the time or now, but humor is a different thing than massage racism. But these movies have that too, but it is funny to watch this in a humor time capsule and see what you get, or through the perspective of just a dad. Right. That's a really, really interesting observation. I feel like the first one is funny and new. You know what I mean? And then as they go on, I'm not seeing these unique things pop up anymore. I'm seeing them just get grosser and stuff like that.

And then I kind of act like Robert Wagner does. Sometimes Robert Wagner just can't be bothered with Dr. Evil. And he just goes, and sometimes I feel like that. I remember I was trying to remember this movie and friends with this great critic, Christy Lemire, and she does a, she's really awesome. And she writes great things because she doesn't go too far

into like the critic zone. She'll get down with the popcorn. You know what I mean? I was like, Austin Powers 3, were you writer then? Or what do you remember? And she goes, oh, I can't, she texted me back. I'm not sure. Let me look deep in my archive.

And she came back and said, oh, yeah, I found one little blur. All it says is tired. Yeah. And that's, that's kind of how I felt. But you're not wrong, because my favorite parts of this movie are the original moments. I don't understand. Wait. I felt tired.

Like the subtitle thing. Yeah. And I actually really liked the little Nathan Lane sequence. Oh. just for originality of like interesting way to do a spy thing and then added benefit of Nathan Lane being attracted to him

which I thought kind of progressed funny and then there's a point where Nathan Lane attacks him and I don't know if you notice this but he spanks his own ass he spanks his own ass God that cracked me up that's brilliant to me I feel like there's just not enough of those they're in there

you know and I definitely laugh when he closes the compact on his finger and Beyonce says out yes well that's another that was that a great escalation of that bit. And again, like, Beyonce is selling that scene. Totally. But you might be right. I mean, I should have, I think I should have watched off the powers two.

It's the rule of threes of comedy, right? For me, and I think this might be why I wound up enjoying this one the most. But that's why these movies are often problematic is because whatever stock you put in the rules of three, Mike Myers is basically a rule of 17. Oh, man. And he likes that build, drop, build, ebflow, ebflow thing. but it's 50-50 as to when he knows when to stop or start. If he's starting a bit that I know that I'm not into, I'm tired.

Yeah, it's going to be about five, ten minutes before we get through this. Like I remember seeing that found because I saw this in the theater and I remember I didn't like it. When they ran in, they just got off some bit. I can't remember he just was standing on Mini Me, which actually was pretty funny. Some of that work with his hands. Oh, were they like one of us going to have to get on the other one's shoulders. Wait, but did you notice the special? effects were all messed up, is that because, like, that was not high-res

CG back there? I'm not sure. That seemed really weird, but I think it's funnier that the shot of him on Mini Me is funny that they decided to go there. But what happens with it, I don't really care. Oh, they just build on the shadow joke from the previous movie. When he gets to the fountain, I'm audibly, and my wife heard that, she's like, what's up? And I went, oh, I remember this.

I audibly went, oh, boy. Because I remember him doing. five, six, seven minutes of pee. You loved it, right? I loved it a little bit too. Did you love it? I thought it was, because that was one where he just pushed it so far

that I laughed in spite of myself. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. It was too much. And then he was hiding behind the statue and the guy's on the side of him. He's like, what he did? I don't know.

Watching the monitor. We talked about this before on the last last time I was on it. I mean, I might have also liked it more if it was, your backyard and everybody was around and people are laughing. Yeah, movies like this need a group experience. I sat here to watch this for this podcast in the afternoon

in a time that I had, my son was taking nap, so it was this time to watch it. So I'm already watching it. Even though I went in with the most positive thing, you know, I'm going to optimistically watch this. But I was watching it sort of as a school lesson. I was chuckling on a plane. Like I was literally laughing at this. Well, movies are better on planes too. have you and the movie have a special relationship.

It's so weird to me, but like, this, like, this, this is what I like about this movie. Okay. I have kids. I think you're going to find that all kids are different, eh? Yeah. That's great. That's a great scene. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. For example. Well, that's funny because it's funny in the moment. You couldn't put, like, if it's in the script, it wouldn't make any sense. And if you added, if you added all those scenes that, I agree with everything you're saying. I love all the scenes you're saying. And that, to me, that's to 15 minutes of the movie because, because.

Do you like Dr. Evil rapping for seven minutes? No, but I- But I get it. I get why they did it. I get why they did it. And I, in the second movie when they do it... They start doing that? They do it in the second movie with just the two of us.

Right. They do the Will Smith version of that, but they do it with Mini Me and Dr. Evil. So you're already ready for that. So then their build on it in this one is this. Right. Well, I watched part two and I wasn't ready. Oh, I, you weren't ready for it.

Well, I mean, I was ready to accept that this was going to happen. I wasn't surprised. You almost know it's going to happen no matter what. Like, the world is saying, we're going to do this. This might be my favorite. My favorite scene in this movie might be the stuff in the evil layer. Yeah. Yeah.

Because, like, it's this, and it's this, this scene with the ya, yeah, and then the build with Seth Green and Dr. Evil going back and forth, where Seth Green calls it out is like, okay, here's, I know the bit, I know what the bit is. Oh, right. Scotty Doon. What, I like chocolate fun. I just Scotty Duke. Yo, well, you?

It's very familiar. Hang on, let me do what I do. Would you stop? How about it, I, what? How about you had a hour? What about you at all right? I don't even. How about you dope, ladies and gentlemen, Scotty do?

Dr. Do you have Robert Wagner doing it. I thought Seth Green was great in that. I do too. I love that. I just enjoyed watching you watch that more. Already was like, oh, look, I was like, oh, look at that. The funniest thing about that scene is, why really does he hate his son so much,

his biological son? It's unclear. It doesn't make any sense. It's unclear. Like, he's in love with his own clone. He's so narcissistic that his own blood is not enough. He needs something of, that's actually him, even though it's like a grotesque version of it of something. It's so, I'm just so glad that they can get it.

Nicky, did you, when did the last time you had seen these movies prior to watching them? I had never seen Gold Member before. But I had seen the other two when they came out of the movie. In fact, maybe Brian and I saw them together because that was when we're roommates. I don't think so. Do you remember whether you like what your reaction to them was originally? I remember liking, you know, it's just like an hour and a half of like. Yeah.

Yeah, I know. It's taken care of it. I had a good experience with them. I wasn't, you know, over-critical of it. I'm not going into Austin Powers with a critical mind. I mean, no, I'm not. I don't want to either really. And even when, like, in the third one, they mentioned the bad news bears and Walter

Math out, it's like, oh, okay. That was another thing with that character. Oh, no. I wanted to bring that up. I hated that. I love that. I hated that. I love that.

I didn't either. What is it? I love the bad news bears. Oh. But I don't. I hate what the gold member was doing with that because. What is that? I don't know.

And I understand that it's a nonsense. sequitur, and I'm, believe me, non-secretto and done well is my favorite type of humor. Oh, me too. But that, I just, that whole gold member thing feels too pushed. Like, it just feels desperate. Yeah, no, I didn't like, he was probably my least favorite character. Have you seen the real guy that that's based on? No.

You might laugh more if you've seen the real gold member guy. Who is, it's a gold finger guy? The gold member guy is just, it's essentially, he's just doing a nearly perfect impression of a German swinger on an episode of real sex on HBO. You guys, we brought this up last time real sex. Don't bring it back. No, I have to. But he's doing an impression of this guy.

And when you see that guy, you can see how Mike Myers would go, this is fucking insane. I need to now do that character. But I was lost, just like you were, I thought when he'd go, Casey in the Sunshine Band or something like that, I didn't know what he was. I loved. The fact that he would do it.

I was like, what is this making foot of? Is he just the guy that... Is that what the real guy would do? I don't know if... Drop references? No, I don't imagine that that... No real person would do that. But it's funny for me to like, to have someone who will just throw out the line or the say the thing and then have to, the tick inside your brain is like, now I must identify it.

Like, I have to cite this. I know, the petition is such a weird thing. Okay. Walter Methel. It needs... I don't know. It felt like, there was something about

there made me cringe. Yeah, you know, also, just reminded me of like a movie I like. He sure, he sure, oh,

I'm so sorry. No, it's okay. I was just saying it's just reminded me of a movie I liked. I'm like, oh,

I got to go see that again. I'm not thinking like, why to go to bring her to say that. I was just like, oh, I'm so happy he mentioned it because now I want to go

see bad news birds again. What did you think of, Beyonce, that character seemed to really love kicking Beyonce in the face. Yeah. He does that multiple times. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I think, like you were saying before, I think, you know, Beyonce was just a good sport. She's a great actress in it, and I don't know what was happening with, like, his bendable leg. But it's super clear that she isn't acting right now because she doesn't want to. It's not that she can't. It's just that she doesn't have to. It's just that she doesn't have to. His gold member's makeup is incredible, though.

Oh, yeah. It's so good looking. You like the skin. I hate it. Oh, I hate that same. Even on John Travolta, it looks great. Yeah. Like the blotchiness of it all.

Yeah. when there was supposed to be the big reveal of him turning around, I went, who's that? Yeah. And it said, John Chappelle is like, okay. What? Okay, so I just, the gold member does make me laugh. I'm saying that I don't like that character. See, this is almost how I feel about this whole movie.

I don't understand that character. When he drops those references, I don't like it at all. But there's a, there's a weird look on his face after he drops references where he looks at you like, huh? Yeah, totally. He goes like this. He goes cross-eyed. Sunshine Ben? See, that's what makes me cringe.

Because I feel like, have you ever been like around a comedian or even a singer who, when they play music or do a bit, they stare you dead in the eye? And it makes me so uncomfortable. And I feel like they're constantly monitoring you for feedback on whether what they're doing is working or they're going to get the attention they need. And I'm getting that sense from him. And a movie shouldn't, like, the movie needs to be 100% one way. Right. And if I'm feeling like I'm being brought in. into the action. It makes me uncomfortable.

You know, I want to sit on my couch and not be watched. I feel like I'm being watched by Mike Myers. You don't like a call in response from your television. I'll go to theater if I want that. And for a guy who studied theater, I don't go to theater. Because of that.

Walter Matho? Bernard Spears. Matt Corley. See? It's just, oh, I don't know. There's something that just makes me uncomfortable. I'm going to play the that just real quick, the clip with the kids. How you guys play clips like that?

Well, it's when we rarely do. Last, people are the top contender for this year's international man of mystery. He's number one in the class. Ooh-to-do. Basil. Hey, everybody, I'm number one. Hello, I'm number two. Nice to meet you number two.

But now I'm going to be named this year's international. A couple of years later, this would be Harry Potter. If this is a couple of years later, they would have probably Harry Potter just. That's a good scene. I like that he was still polite. He was like, nice to meet. Yes, yes. Yeah, I think that every time the movie does something new, I'm on board.

Every time there's something fresh, it completely works for me. Even as you were talking about, we walked in when Dr. Evil lets himself out of the jail and puts himself back in is probably one of my favorite parts. I know, because it made no sense. One of my favorite parts is he always wants to play by the rule because his son is always saying, why don't you just kill him? And he's like, no, you can't. You have to, like, do it a certain way.

And so that just brought up back. He doesn't want to escape. He wants to have a plan and somebody's got to break him out. But if he escapes and that's not part of how things are supposed to feel, I like that about him. Never even cut to the guards when he's at the thing. Like to look at him, like to go back in, he pleases himself. He goes, I'll get it.

Yeah. I really enjoy the moment. I think my favorite moment of gold member, right? Your least favorite character. that again moment of gold member my favorite moment of gold member is when he's offering the various pancakes oh that's and then his follow-up to it it's just such nonsense but it's it's what kills me on it is what kills me is the his what his takeaway from this is that there is no pleasing oh there's no pleasing you like that that just that quick run is very funny to me am i crazy no

smoke and a pancake. You know. Flapjack and a cigarette? Mm. All right. Sugar and a waffle. No. Pipe and a grape.

No. Bung and a blince. Oh, well. I need to say something after this. Okay. Here's the problem for me. His gold member's schick and his bits are forced quirkiness. Where all of, like, Dr. Evil, they all grew organically and became something.

He's coming right out of it. the gate with Goldmember of like let me force these non sequiters on you because I've probably been tooling around with this character for a while and I've like he doesn't maybe even understand the progression they've gone through as normally happens with character work and stuff but he's coming with too much too quick like it's just it's too much like look at how weird this is look how wacky I'm being and I don't know I feel that way that's why I like these movies less and less because no one is better in these movies than Austin Powers and Dr. Evil Like, every character he's created.

Obviously, Beyonce. But I mean, as far as Mike Myers' characters, Pat Bastard is not as well-rounded as these characters and this gold, same thing. It's like some other skit from some other thing. They had time to grow, you know. Austin Powers, I think, takes the back seat a little bit in this movie. He's not quite there that much.

That's the problem with it, right? Because there's too much other characters to give screen to him. Something, and I like Austin Powers, you know? I like that he had that daddy song. And also, I think what you're saying before, too, maybe it is because I love that 60s and the weird 90s thing that happens in the first one. And in this one, I don't care for the McGee movies thing. And I don't, the 70s part doesn't really work for me either. That didn't really land as much as the 60s stuff sort of landed.

Yeah. Does the Michael Kane, Austin Powers, does that work for you guys? Generally. Yeah. He's just so engaging. Of the cockney, like the back and forth. I like that. I did too.

That was so good. But it's also real. It's also related, like, it's also part of Austin Powers's character where he's like, we can't, don't talk like this. You know what I love that. I love that I knew what they were saying most of the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I love when it goes to question marks and he does gibberish, but the one thing that you squeaked out is Gatling Gunn.

Gatlin Good. Yeah. What's wrong with your neck? I took a Viagra. I got stuck at my throat. I've had a stiff neck for hours. Oh, I'm like you. Oh, and is that a new thing, too?

Thank you very much. Oh, yeah. Which started working for me, I guess. All right, my son. I could have had it away with his cracking duty my whole time. Are you telling pork buys in a bag of trout? Because if you are feeling quickly, why not just have a Jay Arthur? A J. Arthur.

Don't you remember the Crembo dindin, dim we have with a grunties? Oh, the one that was all sixes and seven. Yeah, she was a traveling strife, but a Morris dance. I lived up. The apple was a pair. Yeah, she was the barrister that became a Bobby and a Lorry. And they got in the bottom of St. Regis tea cattle. And then she sat on a turtle.

The lawyer who became a cop in a truck. The lawyer who became a cop in a truck. That's pretty good. I'm liking this movie. I like your version of the movie that you show me the funny things. Come into my head. No, but I... Join Nikki and I'm happy town.

Show me the bad parts. Yeah, there are... You know what it is, though? You got the good parts nailed. They outweigh for me. They outweigh any of the down beats that are just like, okay. Is the second one have as much... Is it obsessed with the penis as much as this one is?

It's fairly obsessed. Really? Boy, this one, they were like... It gets... Even when it's like, isn't it weird when he wants... He was like, he wants to see your... Hey, you're a little guy. Can I see your penis? I was like, huh.

For some reason, he's like, okay. But for some reason that totally tracks with Nigel Powers for me. Like it's Michael Cain's selling out. Yeah,

it is. I was just like, okay. Let's see, let's see. He seems to ask everyone. The description of a baby's arm holding an apple

was the one that got me that. I think, yeah, I always known that phrase and this, was this the movie that did it? Maybe. Because smoke and a pancake is something I've been aware of.

And I didn't, as well, I don't know. My friend would always go smoke at a pancake? See, that's just a way? Is it this movie? It has to be.

Maybe not. I don't know. Okay. And then the other thing, too, the Hard Knock Life thing is completely redeemed by this following moment. No, I do not like that part. Oh, when everyone agrees. Oh, the how, the Daroni-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-d. Oh, I wish there was more of this.

I liked when he was, Goldnever was doing the caravan thing. Like, break her, breaker, breaker, you know, he? Okay. That's funny. First of all, I have a gloss. There are two prisoners in there, the guy from the dark night boat where they have to do the big moral quandary about whether to blow up the other boat. And also, Richardson from Deadwood, who's like a deep-cut character who was an extra that became that bearded old coot. Love that guy.

Yeah, he's in there, too. No way. Yeah. I thought that was just somebody David Mills found, like, on the set one day in Deadwood. That's how he found him. Really? But he's in that prison scene in Austin Powers. Wow.

Oh, Deadwood was probably... Where are we with Deadwood then? It was right after this, I think, or around the same time, but he came to prominence in season three. I love that guy. Here's a smoke and a pancake. Okay, thank you. Originally used by Mike Myers and Austin Powers Goldmember

as a joke about Dutch people. The whole movie, for whatever reason, is riddled with anti-Dutch jokes. This phrase was intended to highlight two of the popular stereotypes of Holland, marijuana and sweet confections. There really is no deeper meaning other than Is that what it is? Other than to play on these stereotypes.

Since the release of the movie, the term has gained popularity as a general reference to marijuana use and the munchies that may follow. Is that what it is? Also, smoking a pancake a reference to gay sex, meaning to perform oral sex to a man all night and have pancakes in the morning. Smoking a pancake. All right. It's quite a night. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of explaining these jokes.

By the way, the delivery that Michael Kane gives, there are two things I hate. It's people who are intolerant other people's cultures and the Dutch. That's funny. That cracks me up. I love the random. I think it's really funny when they just randomly pick some country and make fun of it. I was like wondering if this movie would fly nowadays. If people would be like, you know, like, it's just because it's funny because it's so random.

Remember they was like, well, take anyone here except the Irish. Yeah. That's not really. I think they might have. That's not really a blazing saddle thing. Yeah, that might be a West. Society was until 1920. But the Dutch is, the joke is it's just like.

huh? Yeah. I just hate the Dutch. That's funny because it's why. But nowadays, I feel like people would get upset. What do you guys think of the moment? Again, this is all evil layer stuff, but the moment when they're trying

to make mini me leave? Oh. Not you, Frow. Not you number two. It worked for me. Not you, Krumann, arbitrarily. It worked for me insanely. When he goes, not you guy over there,

hitting the buttons. I think I'm, you know, not you, not you in the background. And he just shows him, he's like, awkward. So, that was. Not to bring it down, because I love that moment too. And I like that. But the mini me flip off is there, there always feels like there's one button. Like he feels like every joke needs an absolute button.

And that I feel like I would have rather just seen mini me kind of skulk away. That was a dumb move. Yeah, I agree with that. Although unless they, unless they were, that feels like a. studio note of like, we need to sell his going. You don't think that's a Mike Myers. I mean, he does that every delivery of every line. He then puts an expression in or a mug to the camera. I think his rhythm and his style is that. And sometimes I, like, he's so, someone I have such an interesting, like, complicated audience relationship with because he always makes me laugh

and then almost takes it away. I wish he'd leave well enough alone or sometimes he feels like his own worst enemy. Does that make sense? Yeah, I get what you're saying. And I, the thing you're saying, about the, um, staring down the barrel of the camera at the audience. I get, I get it. I get what you're saying. But there's something about that for me that just it, he almost, I would say 80% of the time for me, he goes past it to the point where it gets funny again to me. Yeah, which is, I think he's often what he's shooting for, but yeah, sometimes he stops in the valley instead of the peak. Yeah. And I can't quite figure it out. I think it's complicated because, Even this movie that I'm not, I don't really like this movie, but.

Seems like you do. I keep trying. I know. I know, but like I'm seeing those clips and they're funny, but there was such, there was such little, they're, they're sprinkled in this movie that in generally I find boring. I think. And so those little moments happen. And so that's what's frustrating. You see like, this guy is so funny.

And he can invent and create these things that are so brilliant that I don't know. why I don't know why the rest of the time I'm bored you're trying so hard you're doing it over and over again you're just you're trying so hard and it's not working and I know you I know you could do it in a way is it like a almost like a George Lucas thing of at this point no one's saying hey that's not working and you know it might be the best explanation of someone who goes too far with a joke I've ever heard in my life well yeah yes George the Death Star blew up we all understand that you didn't need to add the sonic shockwave that leaves the fucking center of the death stop. I don't want to get started on this because I'm going to be here forever. He's just surrounded by people who won't tell him that something might not be working. And my understanding of Mike Myers on these movies is that he was meticulous and at times maybe obsessive over some of these beats and rhythms.

I don't know if that's 100% true. I've just heard that a few places. He had a falling out with the director of Wainsworld as well. I think something like that. Oh, Siri. I'm making my own podcast over here, guys. Did your phone direct Wainterl? Yeah.

My phone directed Wainsworld. Amazing. What about Specter happens in this movie? This is a big Specter moment. Yes. I mean, this was, we've heard, I've heard Daniel Craig talk about this before. Maybe I heard through you guys, but where he's like, you know, once Awesome Powers came out, you can't do these things. But they did do it.

And that's what so ironic. They went full boring to it. And I didn't remember this about Austin Powers when Specter came out. Someone had to remind me of it. I did. And I was like, God, geez. I remember that they were brothers. And so was it one of those things that they just thought,

maybe people don't remember? Maybe they didn't remember. And by then it was written. And I know that they were already so late to have that script done that they just couldn't do anything about it. I like Spector, but that's a bad Specter move. Before we jump down the Specter rabbit hole. On a James Bonding podcast.

On the James Bonding podcast. We just lost the listeners. I just want to hear a little bit more from Nikki because she agrees with me. Oh, seriously. But did you find, what would you say the percentage of the movie was that you thoroughly enjoyed? Well, let's talk about it. The only thing I still have conflict with is Mini Me in general and his treatment. Yeah.

I feel like, you know, I enjoyed everything else. but sometimes I felt like, wow, that's not very nice. Do you mean like the treatment of the character or the treatment of that, like, exploitation of a little person? The exploitation of a little person. Yeah. It's very, it's big. It's interesting.

I didn't know if there had been talks about that before, but it does feel looking back. Wow, that was. Yeah. Well, I think the way sort of they get around it is that, that it's not, it's a literal clone of Dr. Evil. Do you know what I mean? But it's a little person playing at far. It's Vern Troier who was fucking brilliant in this movie.

Yeah. I wish I knew his perspective of it because also when they're putting him in the baby. Baby Bjorn. Yeah. It's something. That is interesting. Yeah. I wonder if his perspective changed it all through the years like clearly minded because when I saw

this, I don't think I had any, like, awareness of that. And now I watch it and can't help but notice that it feels exploitive. It's kind of weird. I'd be interested to go back and read. I'm sure Vern has had talked about this at some point. He was a big, I mean, he was a big reddeter. He would do AMAs here and there. Oh, really?

Yeah, the late Great Bern-Troyer. But he... And also, why did he just growl and why couldn't he talk? Right. They never, do they ever... Why can't talk? They don't address why he can't talk, but I do think it's kind of funny in the sense of

comedically it's sort of like oh sorry sorry sorry yeah well they literally make him bark like a I think it's the Dr. Moreau thing isn't it isn't it because he's the island of Dr. Moreau little person isn't that what he's supposed to be? Was that movie even out then? Yeah yeah it was out before all that there were two I mean there was the first one I thought that's what they were doing with Minniemyi

right until Martin Brando comes around that's Marlon Brando's condition to isn't that what that is Moreau but isn't that I think that movie came up before Awesome Powers Yeah. So I thought that that's what they were referencing. Like, he's got a little person.

I mean, it was like it's a joke on a joke on a joke all related to James Bond, right? So you have a Blofeld who did clone himself, or not cloned himself, but surgically alter people to look like him. So we'd have doubles, right? And then you have the knick-knack of it all, right? So the knick-knack thing, this is interesting, Nikki. There's a in, remember Harvey Villashezhez from. Fantasy Island. The plane, the plane.

Right. So he's in James Bond. He's in the man with the golden gun. He plays Christopher Lee's henchman, right? So we had, we went, Matt and I went into this long discussion in that episode about the end of the movie, which is a fight between James Bond and Harvey Villishes. Her, you keep him a Harvey? Harvey.

Harvey. Harvey. Harvey Villishehishes. Nicknack. Fine, I'll call him by his character name. Between Nicknack and James Bond. and you know Matt and I had a lengthy discussion

there's like there's bottle throwing knife throwing that was on the big ones podcast where we did that remember? Yep that was the big one the crossover episode that was our little big one oh oh right right right and then at the end of the fight wraps up with James Bond

putting him in a suitcase and then they're on a ship this fight happens on a sailboat and the last scene in the movie is you pull back back and Hervey has been placed in the crow's nest of the ship, unable to get out, and just yelling and swearing down. He's just like strapped in a net.

Yeah, and he's just like swearing in French at James Bond, and that's how we end the movie, not knowing if he'll die up there. No, he's up there resigned, remember? He's not even cursing it. He's up there just like, oh, well. Yeah, this is my lot in life. Yeah, that's how it ends. He's like, no, Will.

So for me, the crash land on Fantasy Island. for me the the fight that happens between Austin and mini is the buildout from that moment in the Bond franchise

yeah so but I remember I love that discussion you guys had on the big ones and this one is not the same to me because it's funny

his body's funny and they put him in a pillowcase and it's like Roger Moore got wacky with his size of the guy and started spinning him and, you know, it's just, that's so weird. Yeah.

Yeah, because it is so over the top. Yeah. Like, does that make it okay? I know. They do a lot of those things. Because on a lot of things, just in Bond movie in general, like treatment of women or versus Austin Powers. What's wrong with the women in the movies?

I don't feel like with the Bond movies, it feels a little gross to me. But in Austin Powers, it feels like they're just being cheeky. And also because he is so sweet and because, say, in the first one, And with Elizabeth Hurley, he wouldn't do anything with her because she was drunk. Yeah, that's a great thing. But then he went right out and went out, you know, and did a pagina or whatever. A lot of, a lot of a vagina. But so, but at the same time, like, he had that, you know, he had respect.

He has a good moral center that Austin Powers. I feel like it works in Austin Powers. That might be wise. But then when I go back and watch James Bond, I'm like, ooh, and James Bond, you know, it's like, oh, don't steer. put the plane on autopilot because we, you need to get me a drink. Basically.

Or was it a boat? It was like, it was basically, you know. It's whatever vehicle they're in. You know what? I think it's also because Austin Powers is. It's such a sweet character that I was surprised how viciously he went after a mini-mey. I think that's what it was.

It might have been that. I, the violence in this movie is always so comical. And I think it was funny because he flashed back to the scene in Austin Powers too. He had the flashback to that fight, which was just he was getting the shit kicked out of him. Austin Powers was being destroyed by Mini-Me. Yeah, it seemed like they had to put that in there to almost justify. Oh, is that what it was? Not as a reminder, but sort of like, this is fair.

They just kept using flashbacks like here and there, which also, again, the fourth wall moment I liked was, uh, remember what I said, we're not so different, you and I? That was great. See, I did say that. Oh, yeah. That was great. That was great. I was like using a Michael Cain movie. Yes.

That was fascinating too. Yeah, using the old footage of Michael Cain. Yeah, I was, yeah. Hold on. Okay, I like that. He was like, wow, he looks great. I know. Yeah.

He was a good looking dude. I think he still is. I think he's pretty handsome man. I think I liked that a lot when he goes, see, I did say that. Because if we're, you know, we're talking about Specter doing the, you know, James Bond Dark Knight thing where it's like, and it was connecting everybody. this had that to me like oh sorry this had that to me like um before that was a thing it was

already going like see this is not retro written we totally had this plan he was breaking the wall with austin he wasn't breaking the wall with us yeah it did feel like an interesting twist on yeah the wall breakage yeah i like that wall breakage that's the new term for fourth wall breakage there's so much in this movie gweneth potter's name is funny dick Enormous. Dixie Norma. That cracked me up. At that point, it's so ridiculous.

I loved it. Dixie Normas. That's funny. He's like, okay, Miss Normis. But then Austin Pussy? Not funny. No. Well, Austin Pussy was what they wanted.

They wanted to call the second one Austin Pussy. Oh. But they weren't allowed to by the sensors. That's crazy that Octopus could. Yeah, yeah. That's funny. Yeah. And Pussy Galore in 64.

Oh. Wow. Isn't that funny that they couldn't see? Galore. 64 and pussy galore in 64 An octopusy in 83 82 30

What year was acupuncy Keep going guys I got to rehearse for off books Let me see each other Yeah Pussy galore and 64 You're breaking the wall Oh yeah sorry

Earwolf crossover But the Yeah so that was like Their fun little thing they got to do Was like Call it Austin pussy in the movie I love Spielberg's Like a little take on Austin Powers

When he kind of just gives a look like Oh God But nothing, oh, sorry. Go ahead. Nothing makes me laugh more than the fake Spielberg doing flips. I like that too. That's funny to me because Spilberg does it too. That was so funny to me because like Spielberg is sitting there.

And then just that moment of the fake. It's also fascinating to me. Sometimes that's funny to like the fake, you know, flipping. Oh, yeah. Just the idea of Spielberg. The cowboy, it's the cowboy switch. That's what it's called. Love it.

When you drop down below frame and then you're another. Texas switch or something. What doesn't it? The Texas flip or the Cowboys switch is what we call it on the Goldberg. His character is because Spielberg is just kind of barely a cameo in this. He's kind of just like sitting there and he's not, he almost looks. I like his Oscar reference. On that point,

it's fascinating to me that they can never clear an Oscar. Like they can't like clear the Oscar. So when you look at the Oscar, it's not actually an Oscar. It's the thing with the arms with the elbows out. Oh, really? Is that true? Yeah, that's not an Oscar. Yeah.

Because they can't clear. But it's Oscar like just like Godzilla. Yes. I thought that was funny. Yeah. But that's ironic that you can't, of all things you can't put in a movie in an Oscar. Because you've had to pay, I don't know what the fee is, the Academy of Motion. Yeah.

It's like using money in a movie is a really complicated thing. You often have to have a representative from the treasury there. There's a whole article I read about this where there's a, you have to have your bills approved. They have to be certain amount of it has to be like not real looking. and so what movies often do is use real money and then they have to have like a Pinkerton security guard there and that becomes super expensive and you have to take a loan and insure the money

and it's this whole, there's an article on it that's really fascinating. You know what I thought at that point they would have done like with the telephone, the 555KL, you know what I mean? I thought there'd just be a movie money by that point. If they're just like, they don't want to deal with it. This is what money looks like in the movie. Yeah, I know the truth.

Right. If you ever look super close at a $100 bill in a movie, instead of the United States of America, it says for motion picture use. Oh. Interesting. There's a guy who makes money. It was an interview with a guy at a prop house,

and he was saying that it is so prohibitively expensive to do that he's one of the only people that will do it because prop houses hate to do it because you have to make so much of it and has to pass such rigorous standards that it basically comes down to this one guy. And since he has a monopoly on it, no pun intended, he can kind of make money.

Or it's like a loss leader. Like he'll do it, but hopefully people use his other props and stuff. that. Wow. Don't forget to use this lamp. My grandfather was a prop master in Los Angeles. Oh, really? What?

That's awesome. I used to, and he was great. He became friends, I don't know if I could say this. He became friends with Chris Christopherson. He worked on a Star Wars born. Oh, yeah? Because Chris Christopherson asked my grandfather to do something, you know, like go get him something.

Illegal. I think that is no surprise. Okay. You want my grandpa to go get something? And my grandpa sat there. He's like, yeah, sure, hold on. Let me write this town. Let me do this.

And then he goes, yeah, go get it, Ralph. And then my grandpa went, okay, but real quick, go fuck yourself. I'm not going to go get that. And Chris Gustavson said, I like you. I like you, Ralph. I like you, Ralph. I like you, he became friends. Yeah.

My grandpa was friend. He worked on Bonanza. Wow. Yeah. Oh, my dude. Did he ever? Yeah, Michael Landon loved what my sister's middle name is, Malia, because half our family is Hawaiian, so you got to throw a Hawaiian middle name in there.

He loved Maloney. so much, but couldn't remember and couldn't get a hold of my grandfather. And so he named a daughter, Sean Ali or something like that. Like, Hanali from Puff the Magic Heaven. Something, something. He was trying to remember Malia and couldn't do it. They didn't have texting back then. Yeah.

I love that. He couldn't remember, but, uh, that's close to go out. Just do this with it's pretty. I think it was this. Yeah, so I would always walk. I have great memories in the valley where my grandfather, before he moved his stuff into his garage. He, his, uh, my aunt Flo.

lived in the valley and the garage was just my grandfather's master prop house. So I would just go in there and see all these things and money and pipes. And I used to play Indian Jones as a kid in Topanga with a whip from Bonanza. That I would whip trees. I would always, I learned how to whip the tree and get it to, you could swing. But you can never undo the whip.

There's a little flick of the wrist. Yeah, no problem. Yes, I love, I love those little props. You had a special bicycle. Oh, the Evil Caneval. I had an evil caneval bike because Evil Caneval... It's another one of those. I like you, Ralph, story. Oh, yeah?

My grandfather worked on Viva Caneval. Oh, my God. And Evil Caneval was going to make a bicycle, like a dirt, not like a dirt bike, but a bike, you know, like a mountain bike with no gears or anything. And the brakes, you know, you step backwards to break and have it look like a, evil can evil motorcycle. Like for manufacture? So it's plastic and there's like a motorcycle seat and it looked like a motorcycle. They didn't make that?

That sounds familiar to me. Well, I don't know, but he gave the prototype to my grandfather. My grandfather gave it to me and that was the bike I'd used. I'd ride around on a fake evil caneval bike. That's fucking awesome. It is awesome. And then when you get a little older, it was like a little flashy. But yeah, so we would do stunts.

Then it's back to awesome again. It's the Mike Myers and bicycles. Now if I would have known, you know, I would have kept that. thing. It was so awesome. Any of your grandfather's stuff do you have that? 1976. AMF Evil Caneval bicycle.

Not so much. I had some pipes and some fake stopwatches and some rings I would give people. Oh, did it look like that part of that? Let me see. AMF made one. Contest giveaway. Not exactly like that. Like this seat was almost down here.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Up there like a bike. But kind of. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Do you have any photos of you on it?

Yeah, I think so. Maybe. I wish I kept that I loved it though But like I said you get older And I thought it was just too much I wish your grandfather's prop garage was around

Me too I would go through that Like I said it was Bonanza A lot of that stuff Cooley High he worked on Star is Born Wow Yeah It was pretty rad but I think Bonanza was a really big gig

Because it was near his house in Calabasas And it also lasted for Yeah 12 to 14 years I think my sister My sister's aunt as a baby Something like 15 seasons or something. I'm just reminded this is my first bike, the Schwinn tornado.

Oh, man. Look at that. Orange and black. I was a Huffy expert kid. That's awesome. I know. That's a nice bike. I had a red banana seat bike.

Was it a Schwinn? I think it was a Shwin, yeah. Those are classics. Yeah, I mean, you really could only have Huffy Schwinn and AMF. I wrote a, we rented bicycles in Vancouver and like the other day I did like, you know, maybe like 15 miles on the bike. Jesus Christ. And I just, and I used to ride a lot.

I would like ride my bike to work and like on the weekends I would do like a 30 mile thing. But I forget how fucking uncomfortable bicycle sees up. Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. And then if you're riding for two, three hours, your ass for three days will work. Yeah. So I'm thinking I need a banana seat is what I'm saying.

Yeah. Did they still make banana seeds? I don't know. I see the question. They really do hurt. We were on, when we were on tour, how long ago? When did we do, Muse is 2010? Nine.

We were on tour of the Muse, and so we were playing these stadiums. And a lot of times when you're playing these stadiums, you're just stuck there. There's not a lot around there. So we all bought folding bikes that you could put into the bus. And so we became like a little folding bike gang. And we brought those back out recently. We did this big summer tour last year for almost two months. And it's so fun.

We were in like New Hampshire or something. And then we just all get our bikes. And at one point it felt like stranger things like all the way. Where were we with the what about Bob Lake? Lake Winifazaki. Yeah, that's where we were. Lake Winifasaki's amazing. Fun spot.

Did you go to fun spot? Did you play at the arcade? No. That's the arcade with a Donkey Kong record was set by Steve. Oh, damn it. What was the venue called? It was the best venue. One of the best villains in movie history is that dude.

Willie Mitchell. God, I would love to do a 17-hour podcast about that movie. I'm so happy. He's busted. That universe was so wonderful You've ever seen American movie? That's one of my favorites as well So awesome powers Yeah let's give our rankings of this thing

Can I ride bikes with you guys? Oh yeah Folding bikes are great But they're very uncomfortable Yeah I gotta really work on this bicycle situation I love by the way Even in Los Angeles Like I will take my bike

I live in Hollywood I'll take my bike and ride Down and go in towards like Beverly Hills Westwood area and like when you're just riding your bike at dusk down the street you feel like a child again

scary though down no like if you're in the neighborhoods no no no just physically their cars like oh sure sure everyone's driving so crazy but it's quite enough streets you just sort of I once got hit and cracked my helmet real good

if I didn't have a helmet glad you had a helmet I'm glad you had a helmet frog town has a whole thing going on in LA like there's a they have an amazing bike trail that river trail and that bike restaurant.

Oh, I've written that. That's so good. Awesome. I've written that road. Have we ever seen James Bond on a bike? On a bicycle? We haven't. It's too undignified, I think.

Maybe Danny Boyle will throw him on a BMAC. Yeah, did he ever do extreme sports except for the, except for Pierce Broson must have. He must have. No. Yeah, he surf. Did he surf? Well, he wins. There's lots of extreme sports, but never a bicycle.

It's never a bicycling, but never bicycling. It is too undignified. Yeah. We've seen him knock down a, a cadre of bicyclers in his ass in Martin. Did he ever skateboard? He didn't pogo stick, but he did put on moon shoes once. Remember those moon bouncy shoes?

I like that. I like that episode. It must have been Thunderball you guys are talking about when Maria Plissucci, right? When she saw the jet pack. She was like, I can't believe that thing exists. It's so amazing. I know. The bell jetpack.

It's still around, guys. I remember the Olympics. they would do that. Yeah. I saw that live for the... In 84. Yeah. Yeah.

I remember that. I went to the Olympics in 84. Yeah, me too. Oh. I saw baseball and I saw a track and field. Yeah, so did I set track and field too at the Coliseum? We're best friends. Yeah.

Let's rank this thing. I can't. I can't because the scale doesn't go high enough. What did you guys rank the others? We have... Oh, good question. 006, I believe we gave the first Austin Powers because, again, here's... I don't think I did.

Didn't we? I think so, because I double... Well, I don't know that we were the same. I got too excited that I doubled, and then you guys kind of brought me down to that. I think I was a five and you were a six million? Yeah, I think what we, because we decided to grade it on the scale of how successful was the movie at what it was trying to do. Okay. So for...

We watched it as dads. Yeah, for the first movie, it was just sort of like this, this parody of James Bond and the cultural touchstone of Austin Powers. And so, you know, we skewed it. probably a little high for some people's tastes. You're just excited. Yeah. If you don't have a child, we recommend you go out and get someone pregnant right now, have the kid, and then watch awesome powers.

But it's a, yeah, 000 to 007 is the ranking system. So Brian, Nikki, do you know where you stand? I'm going to have to read the room for a minute on this one. Yeah, sure. This one I want to see, I want to see you guys, what's your best pitches? What's your best? What you got? Myra, what you got?

No, look, I honestly, I think it's, for me, this movie is, it's also a 006. I think it's, whoa. You like this as well as the first one? I do because I think it does, it does what it set out to do so well. For me, again, this is all just this opinion, guys, so no. Oh, yeah, yeah. Mike, he's such a good dancer and performer. He's amazing.

He is a great performer. He's at the height of what he's doing. In Austin Powers, I think. So funny to me. me. He's a Canadian treasure. We should cherish him. He is a Canadian. He is a Canadian treasure. Because I honestly, I want to move to Canada. I love Canada. I think they're so great. I love Canada too. But, uh, Putin.

Tom Green. I think that the, uh, Getty Lee. Getty Lee. Musical guests and Getty Lee. Getty Lee. They're a musical guest. Celine Dion. Just Getty Lee. And a Murray.

Michael J. Fox and Eugene Levy. Paul Schaefer. Canada tonight. So, yeah, I think that this movie... What it set out to do, which I think was like... It took the budget of the second one. It probably got double that budget. Neil Young.

This movie, I think, looks better than the first two. Just, like, aesthetically, I think they're shooting on a better film stock. Arcade Fire. It really is very... It's just a... I think they just hit it out of the park with... everything they were trying to do, which was the... I'm getting a call from Algeria.

I should probably pick that up. Is that your spy father-in-law? I have to go. Is that scamme-likely? Yeah, scamme-likely. Scammering likely? And for that reason, and for all, I think there's so many bits in this that do work for me.

There's a few that don't. I don't love the fat bastard stuff. I don't hate it. I like it more in this one. Yeah, I agree, because it's less gross in this one. Oh, was the second one worse than this? It's the one where they find the thing in his shit and she has to like... He has...

Oh, doesn't have the... Yeah, it's a whole... Doesn't she have sex with him? Yeah, she does because she's a good agent. She does what she needs to do. Wow. But I do love the nod to live and let die when he runs across the alligators, a.k.a.

Oh, yeah, that was interesting. In fact, even Amanda pointed out of us. Oh, it's like live and let die. Oh, you guys, she's bonded up. up, huh? You get it. Yeah, by association, more than she wants. And I think the additions to the cast

this time around are all home runs. I think that Beyonce's a home run. She is a home run. I think that Fred Savage is a home run. I think that these three editions are just great. That's true. It's just great. They are great. So that's why it's getting a double six. He should hire more people and do less characters himself.

I don't know. I like the fact that the screen scrolls and it says Mike Myers, five times. Eddie Murphy. I'm going to go, I think the moments, like the subtitle moments and the Nathan Lane scene

really worked for me. But I liked it just slightly better than part two. I don't remember what I gave part two, so I'm just going to give it 0.5 higher than that. I think you're giving this a 003. I think you gave it a 2.5. 2 or 2.5 maybe, yeah.

And this all graded against Austin Powers were we greeting against... This is a thing against its own thing. What would a dad think? My dad loved it. Can we call your dad and ask him? Yeah. It was just so cute to seem like, who is this guy?

What's happening? It's just a friend of yours? Watching it with a kid. Time travel. Why is you get a time machine? What's the movie? But I would give it, I'm going to say, 006.

Wow. Wow. Because I enjoyed it. Yeah. No, that's all you need to say. But I would not give it the complete highest because I am still a little, I'm still a little torn on mini-me in general. What's your two favorite movies of all time?

I know. The Princess Bride. And the second one? It's not Uncle Buck. What? It changed? No, I mean the Iron Giant, those have always, I feel like. I always thought of Uncle Buck.

No, that has flaws. I enjoyed Uncle Buck. I enjoyed Uncle Buck. and I like it. It was funny because the other day, my daughter, Ella, I said, oh, the Princess Bright is my favorite because we've been watching. It's always on TV.

And then she said, I thought you said Iron Giant was your favorite. Oh, oh. Well, I may have. I'm like, Mom can have lots of favorites. Yeah, she's very specific. I've been telling everyone. She looked at me like I betrayed her. Parents are fallible.

She said, you said Iron Giant. Is it just Ella? Do you have other kids? I have twins, Margo and Ella. Well, then you should have explained it like, It's just like you too. Margo's my cat's name. Let me cab you over at the house.

How do you spell Margo? M-A-R-G-O-T. Oh, yeah. But it was cute. We went to L-A-Zu-Camp, and you have to write your name on your shirt, so she wrote Margot, M-A-R-G-O-T. And then she put a little circle in an X through the T.

And I was like, why did you do that, Margot? And she said, well, I want people know you don't pronounce the T. Oh, Gallagad. A lot of people say Margot. Margot, they do? A lot. Adults? Isn't she named after?

Yeah, all you got the doctor. they always say Margot. Margot? Yes. Yeah. Wait, did they come out and go for Margot? Yeah. That's that weird thing that they do now.

For so and so? That's so weird. But I thought it was nice. I thought it was really interesting. She just put a little sort of Gondon dash through it. Didn't Margot dress like Margot Tanenbaum once? Can you give her big finger? No, I wanted to do that.

Oh, you wanted to do that. She's like, no, I want to be Rainbow Dash. No, like you're going to be Margottenamoff. No, I was like, no, Rainbow Dash. Margo, Guineth Paltrow? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Who's in this movie? Yeah. Maybe you want to bump it up. Oh, man. Brian, what are you giving this? I mean, six is good. My favorite costumes that your girls had, because one of those brown hair, look really, they're very different looking, but they're also very similar looking.

I liked it when you had them dress up as the both sides of Sandra D and Greece. Oh, my God! We had one, had pearls, and it's brilliant. Whoa. It's brilliant. That's great. Yeah, I found a pair of reds. We have red sparkly shoes and a little black outfit for Ella.

I love that. That's amazing. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. You did the shining too? Was that what you guys? No,

but yeah, my husband put up in framed a little shining. A picture of the two girls. And in their room? In their room. In their room, but then our, this is, I love this.

When I am on tour, we have someone help out because the grandparents all help out. And we hire someone to help us too. And she asked, if we could take it down because it was scary. No, you may not. Oh, my God. That might seriously cause some problems.

When they're like 12 and they finally see the shining. But interesting, weren't they, they weren't twins? I think they were sisters. And one, one dress is bigger than the other when you look at it. I don't think they're twins. Oh, really? Well, people can say the shining twins. Yeah, but I think they're in real life sisters.

They're supposed to be twins. They're supposed to be twins. Weird that Kubrick doesn't have the eye for detail to get twins. But I noticed when I went to the Stanley. Nick Cooperick exhibit at maybe Lacoma, several years ago, but the dresses are ones of bigger size. Really? Oh.

Which made me really look into. Oh. Are you looking it up right now? It says they're identical twins. However, the characters in the book and the script are merely sisters, but says the actresses who played the ghosts of murdered Grady daughters, Lisa and Louise Burns are identical twins. Ding, but they had different sized dresses. So maybe...

Maybe he... Maybe Kubrick did this on purpose. That sounds like a Kubrick, man. That sounds like a Kubrick thing. Like, oh, one dress is going to be longer. And, yeah. I also liked it on your Christmas card when your husband, he used Photoshop to put cigarettes in your girls' hands.

There was a pose where they were like this. They were like two years old and one of them just looked exhausted. They were sitting on our front stoop. One, she had both of her arms on her knees and she was looking down. So good, guys. I'm exhausted doing something too. So he just put little cigarettes. Oh, that's amazing.

It's the best. Let's see. The hair are the twins now. Oh, wow. One is taller than the other, I feel. Oh, yeah, I agree with that entirely. One is taller than the other. Well, who knows what kind of heels they're wearing.

I did. Weird follow-up to swing it back to Goldmember for one second. That whole, when he walks into the club in his pimp costume, I feel like he's honestly just, it's a, putting him in those boots is just to have that scene where he's standing with Michael Kane. He's got to be super short. I noticed that too. Or Beyonce.

Or Beyonce, too, because she's tall. Really? Beyonce's tall, but like Michael Kane, I think, is 6'4. Oh, no kidding. I didn't know that. Wow. Interesting. Look at them next to Christian Bale.

And it's weird to, I mean, these movies can't help it. Clearly, it's not their fault at all. But it is so funny what time does in a way. Because, you know, obviously, Kevin Spacey's in this movie. Yeah. And then there's the subway diet joke. What I was like, wow. It's so weird.

It's just so strange. If you're doing it in a movie with references, statistically, there are going to be some that you can't do anymore. It's not the movie's fault. It's just strange what this joke does now. I know, I know. So knowing that, what are you going to give it? Double O.

Oh, it's 6.2. Michael Kane's 6.2. Sorry, everybody. That's all right. That's a high score of 6.2. Double O3. What? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Okay. So we got two sixes, a three, and a three. 2.5, I think. I want to go lower, but I'm not going to... I'm not going to... I'll go lower, but I'm not going to... Oh, 3. Okay.

There's about 15 minutes of this movie that really are hysterical. Yeah. It would have been a great... Short. Everything that you showed me on your phone was great. Is there an extended cut of this movie? Because, quite frankly, I'm... No. I'm going to go procure the extended cut.

I just want to know what's in there. There's like... Sometimes there are... improv scenes that are left on the cutting room floor. Oh, I'm sure. That are, you know, in the movies, since you don't want them, you don't, like, obviously they're cut out. But like, sometimes you'll watch something that was cut out of something and you just are so grateful to see it because it's so funny, but obviously makes no sense. And I always think back, there's this one on the Reno 911 season three DVD. I think, or whatever season it is, there's a scene, it's just Tom and Carrie. It's just Tomlin and Carrie Kenny. reenact, there's Arby's at the crime scene and they're trying to reenact the crime scene and they're just each going through what they think happened

and it's like Tom is narrating what Carrie's doing and he's like when she rolls to like grab a gun he's like monkey roll monkey roll it's like this whole and it's the whole thing is 22 minutes which is the length of an episode of Reno 911 but they could have aired it and I would have been delighted. It's just like, there's sometimes these moments.

Sorry, go ahead. Oh, no, no, no. Just one thing I was thinking of that that I enjoyed was when the frowl or Freiline when she went to visit him in jail and she was wearing the ridiculous. That was pretty good. Why did she need to be in disguise?

That was pretty great. And there's a downbeat too. There's a downbeat in that scene that I really like where she goes, Dr. Evo, it's your son. And then there's like a moment where Dr. Eva goes, he wants to take over the family business. And then he leads back in.

It's just like this little, just this little touch. I do like when he'd get choked up in the mind. But I love that scene because that scene, not just like making out because it's funny. He's actually giving, she's giving him the key. Like there's a movement that actually happens. That's pretty good. Do you feel watching this?

Because this is now 2002. And so Anchorman and all these things are now around. Does this feel more of this sort of... Anchorman's... Just improv a bunch of stuff and then edit and make a movie out of that. Does this feel more like that than the original? Mike Myers in a way he kind of ushered that in, but not with improv, but I felt like...

I think we talked about this in the last episode, that he had a million alts in his head, whether they were on the page or not, ready to go and they would just shoot all these things that he was ready to go with, but maybe some of them were improvised, but they don't feel like the Apatot version of the improvising. That's what I was trying to get at Apatow.

First step towards that. I didn't feel that this movie was doing that either, and I give that credit, because I think that thing's happening at this point. Yeah. I think they're starting to build the movie out of the takes, and I like that this didn't do that. Yeah.

But I did miss Will Ferrell in this movie. I know me too. Because I really liked his character, and why he was too great, breaking is you're like broken and trying to still stand up on his broken legs he's like oh yeah really hurting let me try the other one he comes back in two yeah but it's weird if they're going to bring him back him too it feels like they should have brought him back for one more of yeah yeah guys oh they didn't do oh please i think it's prime time to bring him back for four

probably well i think what they didn't do a naked thing either in this one so that's nice like you know like they read the like cutting to different people to say the like tits were that was a bit into two? But it didn't work in this one. No. Terrible. That was a bit in two. Honestly?

Twice. I don't think it was long in two. I think if it was longer in this movie, it would have started working again. Yeah. That was a terrible scene ending on an awkward Osborne family. No, that's right. Yeah, I think that does remove you from it more than anything in the movie is the Osborne scene. And I think you do have to, I mean, obviously times change and you look at these things like,

oh, well, at the time, you really can't blame the movie because, you know, know this was happening at the time, but you have to blame it a little bit because it knows, if you're being that specific in 2002, then yet that is your choice. And this is going to last forever. Yeah. So you've been, you're okay with having the people in the theater laugh and sacrificing how this will play out. This movie also takes a lot more time to just pause for specific parody where the first movie

is one James Bond parody for the most part. This one is almost verging into like scary movie territory or something or top secret. Where it's just like, I love top secret. Well, there's like a silence of the lambs. Top secret is great. Top secret is great. I'm not dissing top secret. It is so great.

But this has like a Silence of the Lambs thing, a prison thing. Oh, that's what that was too. Yeah. I mean, it's just. That's interesting. That is another interesting point. But see, that doesn't. I get it.

Yeah. It doesn't do it for me, I guess. I don't know. The movie, if we do come back with a movie soon, I would like to hit Spy Hard. I don't think I've seen that. The Leslie Nielsen. Spidehard. It's streaming the soundtrack,

of course, the title song by Weird Al Yankovic. Oh, man. It is, it's streaming on Netflix right now. Whoa, wow. So this might be the time to do it. Wow.

Oh, sorry. I was listening to Yoda recently. Great song. Oh my gosh. The production, the bass on it is so good. Every little weird Al is so good. So much better.

Band is amazing. Yes. Yes. So much better sounding than the original. Really. For some reason, I love the original. all, but I feel like

who now actually raised it. Who's your favorite bass player? Do you like a melodic bass? Yes, I like melodic bases. That's a tough one. Okay. Do you have a few? I like the Iron Giant and such.

I would always say he likes to John Porter. He played with Michael McDonald and I think it's great. And I always love the bass playing in Modest Mouse. I think he's great. Base players and there's so many women base players that I love Kim Gordon, obviously. Yeah, oh, obviously, yes. She's so incredible.

Good, but I prefer walking bass lines around and just kind of exploring this song. Do you, because I love, I'm not a bass player by trade, I'm more of a guitar player. You're a podcaster by trade. I'm a television writer. I'm a television writer. I come here on the weekends. Today right now, it's a Monday. I'm just saying, it's a Monday moment.

We happen to be on hi-in-law. My nephews, by the way, are today. massive fans of that show. Of Goldbergs? Goldbergs? Oh, let's bring them on by. Massive fans. If they ever want to visit the set, you love it.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, I've just scored. Yeah. Years to write down because everyone, so I have to write down what you do for living, for me to say musician. Because it felt like, is this a job?

Oh, I still write down self-employed. Self-employed. That's what I started, write down. I write down self-employed and then like, if it gets more specific, I say writer. Yeah. It feels like if you have to say it,

you're like, oh, it's a weird thing. It's a weird thing. It's a weird thing. thing I think that everybody in this room sort of deals with sometimes. Like now we've been a band that's toured now since 2004. Yeah. And it's like 14 years later and I write musician, I feel weird. Yeah.

Because I still, people go like, what's your hobby? And I go, music. Yeah. And they go, no, that's not. That's what you do. I'm like, yeah. Oh, yeah. I got to get a hobby.

I've never known what to say. I'm never not. It's weird, right? I used teacher for years because I was a teacher. Yeah. I certainly won't say actor, even though I do some acting, but I just feel weird doing that. And then podcast, it means that you have to explain it to someone.

Nowadays? Yeah. More than you'd think, yeah. That's surprising. I think you teach us all to laugh. Matt, Matt, I can't take that kind of, you teach us all to love. I can't take that mantle. It's too much pressure.

Hey, Nikki, you just met these mats. What's your impression? You've read on the double O scale. Matt Goreley. Double O seven plus. Yeah, that's right. Seven plus. But what I was going to say is like, I've been going back and listening to a lot of Queen

and John Deacon, I think, is just. just like, Right. My son loves, he's three, and he loves live aid. And we watch, I love Live Aid.

Queen, he knows everybody's name in Queen. He watches the Live Aid Queen all the time. He knows all those songs. He loves Weird Al Yankovic, by the way,

because he got really obsessed with the only Transformers movie that's actually worth a damn 1987, the cartoon. And Dare to Be Stupid is on there in the junkie on Eric Idol scene, and he loves that song,

Dare to Be Stupid. And so he knows who Weirded out. is. That's a weird ale original. Oh, everyone go back and listen to Yoda. Okay, I want to do that. I'm fascinated. Well, tell us where to find you guys. It's going to be a while.

We're literally leaving here going back. You can find us recording with Butch. It's right. Find us in At Water Village. We have one show in October, the cow jams. But really, we're just making a record this year. Yeah, we're making a record. Where's the show?

I don't remember. It's at the Cow Jams. Do you know where? The Glenn Helen. Oh, yeah. the Glenhillon something? Amphitheater? Ampitheater?

Yeah. I need to look it up. I need to look up directions. It's hard because we're not in that mode. But you guys are making an album. We are. Wendy is going to expect that to be out. Probably not till next year, summer next year.

We've been working for packs four weeks and then Butch needs to go. He's going on tour with garbage for their 20th anniversary set of shows. And then we'll start recording again. Well, yeah, but we set it up though in a way where we started recording early. we wrote about 10 songs and we chose about four or five knowing that we would then write more. You know what I'm saying? I want a little more of a surplus. So this is even the way we were sort of doing it, it's kind of everything about it's new

and I like it. It's like having this break in the middle to keep going because the four that we've done so far, we're just not. Yeah, we're so happy that. Oh, good. Good job, right. We're so happy that I'm weirded out by it. Because normally the critic, I'm just like, no, no, no, is this crappy music?

I finally achieve perfection. No, not that so much. But normally just so judgy, you know? And I mean, I tend to travel that route. And it's always like trying to figure out how to shut the critic out. I mean, he'll be there. But I just try and not listen. And this time I just don't hear it.

And I think we're just having such a good experience. It was cute because Butch said, he's like, oh, I'll listen to it loud in your car. I loved it. There's stuff like that. Oh, that's got to feel good. Yeah. That's just stuff like that. Is it weird that every time he starts rolling, you say, look out, Sergeant Pepper?

This album's going to be great. No, but I always do this thing. I always do this thing to make him laugh in the studio. When we do a take, I always go, this is a Butchvig production. And I go, ding, the Nirvana lick. It's like our sit, ubu, sit, good dog. I think he gets a kick out of it, too. Oh, my God, he loves that.

Sit, yeah. To make him laugh, if we're like working really hard, I'll just go, dang dang. I'm like out of tune strings. Do you know what you should get him? What? For like when you're done with the album, get him a title card. Oh. Have someone design him a title card?

Like at the end of a show, like when you would have to sit Uber. Oh, Village Frank Production. Yeah. That would be too much. Like make it look like an 80s title card. Yeah, that's brilliant. He made a joke about, he's like, maybe I should call, get my. manager on the phone and try and find all the records I've recorded on and have them put that in

every song. Oh God. At the end of every album. Every song. Yeah. Well, thank you guys. So what a pleasure. Always such a pleasure.

We did it. We handled all three. Where are you guys going next? Well, we're going to do a bit of a... Yeah, that's right. Come to the London podcast festival. September... Our show is the 16th.

Man has shows on, I believe, the 15th as well. Nice. Something like that. And, yeah, we're going to be doing a show on Sunday. day in London. Awesome. Home of James Bond. Yeah.

Yeah. That sounds fun. We're bringing suits. Do they have a James Bond thing? You're just two guys and you're having a good time. Just two guys and you're having a good time. Having a good time. Having a good time.

Do they have a James Bond Museum out there? They have the Bonded Motion exhibit. Okay. Because we talked about the Spy Museum in D.C. that was... Which sounds, by the way, like it has a lot of somehow even cooler stuff. It has really cool props.

Oz's teeth were the most exciting. Yeah, she went to the Spine Museum. I want to see that stuff. It's good. The Bond in Motion Exhibit has like, what they have that's very cool is they have a lot of the bigger things. Like, so like a lot of the vehicles are there. Yeah. Oh.

Tracy's, Tracy's Mercury Cougars. Right. That's exciting. That's cool. Yeah, the one, unfortunately the only car they really had at the, at the Spy Museum was the dumb invisible one. Yeah. They had an Aston Martin. Oh, they did they did have the Aston Martin.

That's right. Which one? The DB5? Uh-huh. I couldn't go near it. because that's when all the screaming school children were Remember that? It was like the day of the locusts or something.

We just heard. Spreading and everyone's screaming and the people working there are hiding. There was even a moment where kids were in like the above us in the air conditioning. We were so upset. No, you're not kidding. There's a like diehard style of air conditioning duct

that kids can crawl through like they're like infiltrating a building. It was going bach blah, blah. And the guy worked. came there, had like a broom, and he was like hitting the thing. This thing just turned into a nightmare. We're trying to go like, oh, there's the jaws teeth, and then you're going to swat like a 12-year-old witch. Well, we will probably be back next week with a sort of summation episode of this season. We'll take a little bit of a break with intermittent episodes coming in that hiatus and then be back for some sort of regular, semi-regular series with James Bonn coming up.

So this is only a... Yeah, we're not going anywhere. A temporary sort of farewell, but we'll see you next week. And James Bonding will return. James Bonding Podcasts. Hey, this is Arnie Neacamp from the Improv Fantasy Podcast. Hello from the Magic Tavern. I fell through a dimensional portal behind a Burger King in Chicago into the magical land of food.

And I started a podcast. Season three has just begun with a brand new adventure to defeat the Dark Lord. If you're a new listener or you've fallen behind season three is a great jumping on point. And we've got great guests. like Justin McElroy. I sat like a fancy college professor. Fake nuts. Rachel Bloom.

You all see my collection of men, corpses, and one woman. Felicia Day and Colton Dunn. You've seen me have intercourse with a variety of species. It's a bummer. Andy Daly. You have the members of Genesis listed, but Phil Collins has crossed out and then circledly crossed out again. Yes, I have killed Phil Collins twice. Thomas Middletch.

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