James Bonding - JAMES BONDING BACK CATALOGUE RE-RELEASE AND CATCH-UP

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

All episodes of James Bonding are breaking free from the paywall and coming back to you weekly for free - beginning October 5th, James Bond Day! Plus Matt and Matt catch up on Bond news and where they are with the franchise. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Matt and Matt and James Bonding podcast James Bonding has returned. I'm Matt Goreley. I'm Matt Myra. We're back. Hell, we never left.

This is a little bit of a check-in episode to announce something nice and special coming up. Did I do that right? Did I say my name correctly? I think so. It's been so long. I haven't used my name since the last time I'd recorded an episode of this.

Do you know when this podcast started, Matt Goreley? Do you remember what year it was? Oh my God, it was either, because it was right after Skyfall came out that we started kind of brainstorming this. So it was either late 2012 or early 2013. Did we do this in 2012? I think we did. I think this is our 10-year podcast versory. That's crazy. Isn't that like, I was saying it to Dory the other night. I was like, she's like, how long have to do that podcast? I was like, I don't know, like, 10 years. She's like, What? We'll take that.

Connery, Lazyzby, and Dalton. We're in that dark period between bonds that like, it's, I would call it a, yeah, it's a drought of information and anticipation. There is none. I would say there's no anticipation because we don't even have a name of a bond. And now it's His Majesty's Secret Service, which is awkward. Yes. And I was thinking about a new Bond movie could be called on his.

Majesty's Secret Service or better yet. And I think I saw someone wrote this on Twitter. I forget who. For King and Country. Oh, that's a good name. It's kind of classy. I like that. It's romantic. I know. You think King and Country, you think of it in some greater sense, not actually like nothing against him, but King Charles. Bond is doing all this for King Charles. There's an element of it that's like less, it's less romantic, certainly. I don't know, less classic. Although I was thinking back Fleming, I guess when Fleming even wrote Casino Royale, we were still, that was the reign of Queen Elizabeth. Yeah, everything Bond, literary and cinematic was in the reign of Elizabeth the second. That is bananas.

I'm so glad he got to help her parachute into the Olympics. Yes. And so speaking of a grand reign. Yeah. We have some James Bonding news. we finally reattained all of the back catalog of James Bonding

from Stitcher and the folks there were nice enough to work with us they were really helpful in moving it over into ACAST as a publishing

platform who have been just wonderful as well and that means no more paywall no more pay for James Bondi this stuff is all

going to be brought out and re-released starting this week Wednesday October 5th official James Bond day and all of it's going to come out starting from the beginning weekly. And that means on Wednesday you'll get episode zero, which is us discussing the origins of James Bonding. And then episode one, Dr. Noe with Paul F. Tompkins.

Unbelievable. It's a dream. It's kind of like, I feel like one of those, like, you know, you read those stories about like John Fogarty and the Creedens Clearwater Revival Master tapes and the song publishing rights. I feel like I were finally able to perform on the road again. Like it really, I never thought we'd get them back. In all honesty, I thought they were just sort of like gone. I know they're out of the Stitcher dungeon and they've busted free out into the ACAST horizons. It's fascinating to, like, I'm like kind of excited to like listen to them again and sort of see where we were at.

What was our bond appetite? What was it like back then? Did we slowly get broken? Or do we have the appetite still? I don't even, I don't know. Well, I still love Bond just as much as I always have. You know, like anything you like with time, it ebbs and flows. So because the movies are in a bit of an ebb, probably my engagement with it is a little bit low.

Do you think that the, now if I remember correctly, in the first run of our show, we did, we went, we bookended and kept meeting at the middle. That's exciting. So the week after Dr. No will be Skyfall, I'm guessing. Yes, with Steve Agee. Wow. And then it was from Russia with Love with Jonah Ray. Oh, my goodness.

And then I think Quantum of Solace with Emily Gordon. Oh, my God. Wow. Who did Casinoa? Didn't we do that with Amanda? Oh, yeah, Amanda and Maria. Oh, my God. That's one of the best episodes.

Yeah. And then it's Goldfinger with Ali and Georgia, which was one of our most divisive and controversial episodes. You know what? You know what's funny about that episode is I bet listening to it now? It will neither be controversial nor divisive. I think now time has borne some of its findings out. Yeah, that's cool. It's going to be, wow. So do we have then, beyond those episodes, there will eventually be that second season of commentaries. Like, people have a lot of content coming in. There's 118 episodes. Oh my God, is that true? I just remember the day that I checked our feed and I know we know I looked in and I had no episodes in there. And they just disappeared and I was like, what happened?

Really felt like Spector came in and did some nastiness to our feed. Since we're now so far removed from no time to die now that you can stream it anytime you die or want to die. How are you with it? How does that... I still really like it. I will say, though, that I don't go back and re-watch it much, which I used to do a lot with the Craigs when they would hit streaming. I have to say that I hadn't... I haven't watched it in a long, long time,

probably since we last recorded. It was the last time I watched it. And then I saw on Prime last night, I was looking, or two nights ago, it started playing the trailer. And if you've seen this trailer they cut together for Prime, it's a very lengthy trailer. And it starts with like Judy Dench and Casino Royale narration. And then it goes into like every, you know, everything where it's like you just feel like they're really pat themselves on the back for going like, see what we did here. it was clearly not a plan. I mean, not in the same way that Star Wars wasn't a plan, you know.

At least Brockley and Wilson managed to connect it in a way that was like, oh, okay. Yeah, and we're going to see all these 60-year retrospective things. Like there's a documentary on the sound of Bond coming out on Wednesday on Bond Day. Ooh. Did they get all the licensing? Are we going to hear it all? I assume they did. Oh, yeah.

It's an official Eon thing with all, you know, the major. players are being interviewed in musicians. It looks great. And then there's, of course, the like amazing race, James Bond, whirlwind adventure too. So who knows what that'll be like? I'm like, I'm like literally like, what? This is news to me. I bet every listener this podcast knows more about this stuff than we do at this point. Do you have like a, how do you, like, does this stuff, I'm assuming a lot of this stuff just gets like tweeted at you? Well, I barely look at. I don't look at anything anymore. And that's the problem. I know. I do have a, a like news aggregator on my phone that I subscribe to a number of James Bond sites and blogs.

So when I remember to check that, that's how I get my bond news as well. It does feel like a, it feels weird being so disconnected from it. But in the sense of like, I don't, there's nothing, I thought or had, maybe I'm thinking incorrectly, there's nothing going on. But as you're telling me, there's stuff going on. Well, it's all retrospective, the 60th anniversary. stuff that's happening. So on Wednesday, the 5th would have been 60 years to the day that Dr. No was released in cinemas. Whoa. Yeah. That is ridiculous. And there's now, I mean,

who do we have left here? I guess we've got just Moore and Connery have gone to the other side, huh? Yeah, although George Lazenby recently got booted from a Q&A at the end of On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Did you hear about this? No, tell me. Well, as you can imagine, his stories about Bird, Dog, and Sheila's have not aged as well as he might have hoped. So he was doing some Q&A. And normally he'll do this for, you know, screenings of Honor Her Majesty Secret Service with Bond fans. But this, I think, was from some festival that wasn't 100% that. And they literally stopped amid Q&A and said, thanks, that'll be enough.

Because the audience was like rumbling and kind of shuffling in their seats and complaints. and oh, God. Oh man. He's a dinosaur. He's never going to change,

but there's a part of me that's just like, okay, yeah. I mean, let him go and let him get taken off stage. I love it all. It is,

it's really, it's very funny to think about this. Like, yeah, because those stories, I mean, even the Lays and B Doc, like,

it's just like, should you be, should you be, should you be saying this out, loud all the time now. Yeah. But of course it's him. Yeah.

Of course he is. I was watching the U.S. Open, you know, tennis. And the, one of the commentators was like saying how they had just had a lovely birthday or something or wedding. And then like also, oh, no, she was saying happy birthday to George Laysenby. Oh, really? Yeah. And I was like, what?

What? She was like, yeah, the father of my kids, George Laysenby, and I was like, what is happening? Oh, my God. And then my Dory was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, uh, God, I forget her name. I think Schreiber. She was married to George Lazyzeby for a little while, and they had like kids, I want to say, like, in the year 2002. Oh, my God. You can't stop.

You can't. I mean, I wonder if like, I wonder what tales other male models of that era have. I know, I'm sure. He's the only James Bond I've ever met. I met Craig. I did. I met Daniel Craig. Lazy-Bee, I didn't, I never met him.

I saw him in person at a Q&A, but never met him. I shook his hand and got the soundtrack vinyl of Honor Majesty's signed by him. That's, that's a good. get. Yeah. That's a really good get. I mean, I have Sean Connery's shoes. So whatever, it's cool. What? From Never Say Never Again, I have his shoes. That's right. Oh, my God. They're over there. They're over in a corner over there. It's like, what do you do with them? I don't know. I just, I just hold on to them. Occasionally put them on when I, when I feel a little saucy and I maybe want to slap a woman, which I would never do. I put those shoes on.

They remind me. These are not the shoes I want to walk a mile in. Well, what else is new bond-wise? I'm trying to think. I just still can't get over the fact that they decided to kill James Bond. Yeah. Spoilers. Yeah.

So what side do you come down on that now? Is that, does that age well with you? No. A year out. We're literally a year out. Yeah, it just felt it, it's, still to this day it feels like an unnecessary end to that character but like an appropriate end to that actor yeah i think that's for that reason i still still like it and i think it seems like the bond

world maybe is probably 50 50 which is interesting that they were able to pull off something so kind of and get it to be that yeah that's that is wild to think about because when i I was like, this, is anyone going to, is, are we okay with this? And I look around and like, it was an afternoon screening and I was sort of by myself like, okay, I guess was, I guess this is what happened to everybody. Okay. I start talking to myself as I walk out of the grove. Amanda cried when we saw it and, you know, I think I teared up a little bit too. I mean, part of it is the end of an era. You really feel that end of an era. Yes, I agree with that. But it also felt like such, uh, I don't know, it's a really a bold, it's a bold move. I applaud them for that.

Yeah. For like agreeing to it, which I feel like they, like it's wild to me that Broccoli and Wilson were like, okay. I think that was the only way they're going to get Craig back and they were probably like, and they had nothing to lose on a last Craig movie, right? That's very true. But now this, the question becomes in the, This is very early to be speculating in any way, shape, or form about what happens next with the franchise regarding the next bond. But, like, you don't think they do another casino royale thing, do you? I hope not. All I know is that they've said that they want someone younger that can commit to a 10 to 12-year run.

So it does seem like they're really trying to grandfather that in. You know me. So in Daniel Craig, in Daniel Craig terms, that's two movies. I know. I mean, you hope all their legal woes are over and they could just do, in 12 years, it would be nice if they could pull out four movies with three years between. Well, it's interesting. Like if they set the factory up, you know, anything like Marvel.

Yeah. And, you know, did you hear that? They said likely Purvis and Wade will work on the next bond as well. In a way, I'm happy to hear that. Yeah. I'm still of the camp of just give me, give me like at least three movies, one to two years apart with three different bond actors in three different eras. So you got Idris Elba in a more modern setting, Michael Fastbender in the late 50s.

Emily Blunt in the 90s. I don't know. Is this a common thought of what they might do? It's common in my head. That's where I'm like, man, I want to get in there with you and see what that's like. Because that is not something I would have ever imagined. No. I mean, part of me was like once the Amazon deal happened, I was like, oh, does this now open it up to them doing, you know, a Q branch series or a

I think if Amazon had it their way, yes, and broccoli's are, I think, still resisting that. You know, all of this is what you can glean from their kind of cryptic quotes about everything. Yeah. I mean, let me ask you this. Yeah. If you had to, because probably you and I haven't watched much Bond recently. Right. Just as like you said, it's kind of like that low between.

If you're going to get off this podcast and put on one Bond movie right now, what would it be? Oh, that's a good question. I mean too I lean I think I lean Octopussy weirdly Oh wow weirdly Lovely lovely Oh my God that's great

It just is like a happy time of bond You know because it's like it's like in that In that not the middle of the run But towards the end of the run But like you know You're sandwiched Behind the leather bound cover of George Lazyz and B and Timothy Dalton

And you're just all in those deep more pages And it's like, yeah. Let's have a pun every 45 seconds. I think I'm more in the kind of subtle camp. I'd either go from Russia with Love or living daylights right now for some reason. It's because I want fall to come in and I want it to be kind of cool and crisp and, you know. I keep waiting for fall and LIC is like next weekend. It's going to be like 95 again.

Yeah. Which I feel like is just what we're, what we signed up for by being, you know, humans who've destroyed the earth. Like, it is what it is. I thought you're going to say what we signed up for for living here. But I was born here. I had no choice. Well, yeah. I do say that often to Dory.

I'm like, what are we doing here? Yeah. I know. I know. I go out to some other town. Why am I not living here? I talk into this thing for a living essentially now. and I can do this from anywhere.

Yeah, I know. And yet, I still... You don't have to tell me. Whatever. It's all... No, I do love L.A. I love L.A. But we still need a bond to come to L.A.

more than just the airport and Drax's mansion and wherever that's supposed to be, Valencia or something. I don't know where that's supposed to be. It was a functioning restaurant at the time, right? when he landed there. Oh, the, who was that? Paul Williams, the architect that did that?

LAX cool diner, yeah. Top of the world. No, that's not what it's called. Whatever. The member, they fly from LAX to Drax's imported French giant chateau, but they don't sit quite where that is, I don't think, and it feels like it's like Valencia or Santa Clarita or somewhere. And also, he moved, he, if, did Drax,

I remember correctly, did Drex have that brought brick by brick from France? Yes, I believe so. That's the, that's hilarious. William Randolph Hearst of it all is very funny to me. I know. So it must have been San Simeon, right? Oh, yeah, maybe it was that high up. Yeah.

Yeah. So he needs to pick that together. You're right. Yeah. Do you think that, well, actually, you know what's funny is I was thinking about this this morning because I knew we were recording today and I was out, I was golfing by my myself as I often do because I what ball were you playing I wish I was playing as Lassinger 7 but I was playing a title is pro v1 the I was thinking about how much more of a

you would have gotten these beautiful shots that like showcased the whatever clubs he was using and like who was like I was thinking about all the marketing they missed out on all the oh I know all that stuff and like it's such a bummer now because like you go and Schlossinger used to be like a great golf company

and now they're like they make like their balls are like the worst yeah they're the cheapest

and they don't go that far and they're like hitting little rocks around and it's just funny to think about like

a thing like that that was like it must have been in the 60s it must have been the peak of golf equipment whatever Bond

was playing Right, of course, yeah. And you look at it now and if like, if you find one in the woods, throw it back. Because it's no good. It's that kind of a situation. Because I remember buying a bad, like I was like, oh, I'm going to get a box of Schlosagers and see how they are. And they were like, it was 10 bucks and they were some of the worst balls I've ever hit. I wonder if the, I wonder who made, although it was probably, do you think, it was probably like a bespoke

Scottish golf club maker that made Sean Connery's golden goldfinger clubs. Probably. Yeah. Do you, oh, have you heard about the 60th anniversary Macallan scotch bottles they're putting out? Oh my God. No, please tell me. Oh, my God. Okay, so there's six of them in their each, a different decade of the cinematic bond.

But the whiskey's the same in each bottle. And I looked at him like, okay, I love whiskey, I love James Bond. I'm getting this. But then when you find out the price tag, I was, I can't, I just can't. It's $1,07 per bottle, $6,032 for all six decades. It's the same whiskey in each one. That's so dumb. There's so many promotional things coming up.

Plus there was that Christie's auctions. Did you see any of that? No. Sylvan Aston Martin. Oh, God. They had so much stuff. A set of all Daniel Craig's five bow ties from his tuxedos. How much did a set of Daniel Craig's bow ties go for?

I'm not sure, but I was tempted. But again, it's like I just can't justify it. Those I would wear at some point. Sure. Well, that you could. Yeah. I think that's the kind of thing you can wear. Because when you're in a situation with a bow tie,

chances of spilling something on a bow tire. Very slim. I don't know how you would get it there. You'd have to have an angry wine thrown in your face to stain it. Yeah. I think if I weren't getting married, I mean, if I was getting married prior or after that and I had the money, that would be a reason to do it. But what's the next time I wear at tucks? My funeral?

That's not a bad. Noted, by the way. That's what you choose to be. be buried in. Absolutely. I have to let everyone know. Matt, he wanted to be

buried in a tuxedo. Really? Is that going to be comfortable in the afterlife? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Get him the white shirt.

So John Letters were the name of the clubs. And it was a Scottish guy on the outskirts of Glasgow that made clubs. Oh, man.

I wonder. I wonder what those go for now, like some other clubs by that guy. Let's see. That golf club, the club that they play at in the movie, sold last year. For how much? For how much? For how much. Are you serious?

Yeah. $79 million? Oh, I mean, by the way, the house. I mean the course. Oh, my God. When I say the club, when I say the club, I should. It's a lot of club talk here. We're talking about the building, all 14 tennis courts.

Okay. And the golf course itself. But that said, right, $79 million for that, which is a pretty cool thing from Goldfinger to own. Like, you know. You're like, you're like, hey, I have the golf course. I mean, short of fork knocks and all of its. But like, so that. That just made me think to myself.

Okay, so what does, what did the last DB5 that sold at auction from James Bond? This is at Christie's just last week, I think. Let's see. I want to say it was like 29 million or something. Oh my God, really? I could be wrong. That's amazing, by the way. I could be wrong.

Okay, because in August of 20, August of 2022 Sean Connery had a Aston Martin DB5 himself he owned it privately One of the film ones

Uh unclear But it was sold by the Connery estate And all the proceeds go to Went to the Sean Connery Philanthropy Fund Uh It sold for 2.4 million But that's not one

of the ones used in the movie. Hmm. So what I want to know is, hmm, what did the left? Okay, I can tell you it couldn't have been 29 million because the whole Christie's auction raised 6,103,500 pounds. Aston Martin, oh, it went for 2.922 million pounds. 2.922 million. So, I mean, really, you could have the golf course or like 30 of those. Yeah.

I guess. Because I kind of feel like, that's pretty good value as far as I'm concerned of owning something from a James Bond movie, owning the golf course. Oh, yeah. Like, you kidding? But what an overhead. How? Yeah, but it's also like it's functional in the sense of like You operate it and it brings in money, etc

Whereas like if you spend three million dollars on And the Asin Martin by the way that was sold for three million dollars Yeah Was the one from No Time to Die That is all scratched up And has many a bullet hole Oh you're right Do you want to hear some of these others?

Yes, please The Faberge egg from Octopussy was expected to reach 10,000 pounds. It sold for 327,000 pounds. You telling me, Octopus is not received. I don't know which one. Is it the fake one or the real one? Finally getting its due. The Q jet boat from World is Not Enough, $126,000.

Oh, that's too much. Aston Martin V8 from No Time to Die, which I would love to have. Yes. 630,000. The Omega C Master. Yeah. Diverr, 300 meters, double seven addition. That's 226,000.

What? And the Triumph Scrambler, 1200 from No Time to Die motorcycle, 138,000. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, there's a second round of all. the auction on October 5th, Matt. You better be careful. I,

uh, there's, they're selling, by the way, the miniature of the BMW 750 IL from Tomorrow Never Dies, which has an estimate of, $8,000 to $11,500. It's 15 inches high and 49 inches long.

Oh my God. So that's what they drove off the roof. Oh my God. There's some amazing things. There's a menu from the Cafe Martinique from Thunderball. Sure. Estimate 800 to 1200 pounds. That, see, I love stuff like that.

Let's see. Like, is there anything? Moon Raker Drax crew belt buckle. Fabric Zorin Patch. Oh my God, the cello case from Living Day lights. Oh my God. Do you know how much the...

Tomorrow Never Dies stunt model. $10,000. That's what it went for it? Or is that like... That's what it's going to... That's what their opening bid is. It's bid. There's 11 bids $10,000.

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. That is an interesting time. That's... It's weird that they don't tell you which... Faberjeet egg it is. I know. Maybe they do. I was just reading the headlines. Lots of Bond suits. There's Silva's suits. I, uh, ooh, okay, so it's the fake one. Oh, it is. Because it's the, uh, with a hinged cover and closing a miniature carriage adorned with white crystals on a springloaded disc revealing a hidden compartment mounted to it on a wire stand.

So it's of the, of the eggs in that movie. That's even cool. cooler, I think. Oh, my God. Wow. I wonder if anything like, I wonder if they sold anything that was like, oh, this did very poorly. Yeah. Nothing looks like it's sold underestimate as I do a quick peruse here. I bet if they sold that tiny little tie that Daniel Craig wore in the desert of Spector that comes down to his nipples.

There's a guy Dory and I went to a charity event The other on Saturday And there was a gentleman that was there That must have been 6 foot 8 And And Dory's like What do you think he does?

And I was like, makes ties look tiny Professional Tiny Tiny Tie looker making McGowan It was like, I was just like, oh my God. And like, you think about like having to like lean down constantly to talk to people? It's, it's, it's, I don't know. I don't want to say it's a nightmare.

But it's a nightmare to be that. Tell it to Richard Keel. Aw. The late great, Richard Keel. Yeah. We've lost a lot of, we've lost, we're losing everybody slowly but surely. I know. As time creeps on.

We could close this episode. out with who we've lost since last we spoke. I'm trying to remember. Jesus. Who died in this past year? Besides the character of James Bond, who died? Yeah. I feel like there's a bunch, but I can't think of who they are.

Did Tanya Roberts die before or after no time to die? This is our really ham-fisted. Good question. In memoriam service. This is, I'd like to say thank you to everyone who worked in a James Bond movie but also died. You guys were great. Oh, I can get it. So there's a, there's a vintage John Letters putter on eBay right now for $12.

Oh, wow. And if I were right-handed, that would go straight in my bag. Yeah, that's right. Oh, that's too bad, man. You must have, I know guitars are slim pickings for you, but golf clubs must be even more. I would say that golf clubs are less slim than guitars. Like, because they tend to, they tend to offer like 40% of golf clubs. They also offer left hand.

You have to usually special order them. Whereas I feel like with guitars, it's like 20%. you can also get left-handed if you're lucky. That's pretty good. Okay, so there's nothing that we need to gather our funds and try to bid on, right, to collectively own it as the James Bonding podcast. Other than that menu? Do you have a favorite episode of our show that you are looking forward to people rehearing?

Well, the Amanda Maria Casino Royale is a classic Because of the in a well discussion I don't know, that's a tough one to top I also remember really enjoying the two-part drinking episode We did where we had people over. Oh, sure, yeah. The draft episodes were fun. Those were good, but those are, those are,

it's a ways out for people because that's later in the run. Yeah, yeah. What about you? You know, that in a well is probably the funniest discussion we've ever had just because you couldn't write that. You couldn't write that mishearing. And remember how long we went on the Specter's like publicity announcement, the press conference? We really were starved for another Bond movie at that point in a way that like I don't remember ever being. Even between Dalton and Brosnan and Brosnan and...

I mean, even between Brosnan and Craig, it was three years. Yeah, that was pretty quick. Yeah. And this one, it feels like it's going to be like five. I'm sure, at least. And even more when you think about it, because their movie's actually been done for almost three years, even though we've had it out for a year.

Right. That's wild. And I wonder, too, if they're going to do a situation where they're like, we don't open on streaming and, like, we'll only do theatrical. They seem to feel that way. I hope that's the case. Did you hear John Williams said he would love to do a bond score? That would be amazing. Would it be?

It would just sound like everything else. I don't care. Give it to me and hurry up. I know the guy looks good. He's doing the new indie movie, but come on. Let's not, let's not dilly dally. Every time Bond is like silently stalking the villain, it's just, dun-na, dun-d-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

That would go so easily. Yeah, so easily. You know what you do? You get Spielberg to direct and Williams to do the music. Oh, come on. Do you think, I don't think he can't have any interest in that anymore, right? Well, it's interesting that he's not doing the new indie, so maybe there is a full-circle sort of thing he would do it. That would be incredible.

Oh, he's not doing, he didn't do this Indiana Jones, huh? No, James Mangold did. He's executive producing, but he, after Crystal Scull, he's probably like, I ain't going to put my name on another one. I don't need this fucking, I don't need George's wild alien ideas. Tells me that the plot of this one is probably even wilder. I wonder, it's very, it's interesting to me that they're like, we're going to do this

fifth Indiana Jones movie and ignore his son? Good question. Question mark, question mark. I know there's a couple returning people from the franchise. I won't say anything more than that. I'm actually pretty intrigued

because A, you got nothing to lose after Crystal Skull. I don't think it could get much worse. and I don't even hate that movie as much as most people, but still. And James Mangold, I think, does some pretty good films, so I'm curious. I wonder, like, I don't know. I just, I just worry. I mean, I've been worrying about the franchise for a while.

Yeah. But I do really worry about what version of Harrison Ford I'm getting in this movie. Oh, I'll tell you what version you're getting. year old version. Yeah, sure. How they're going to do. They have to deal with it. Like, that has to be a centerpiece of the film.

Otherwise, it'd be crazy. I get it. An 80 year old, but like, do you think he'll come across as bored out of his fucking mind? No, I think he's in a new phase of appreciating that people like him in his age. Because also when he came out for the Disney 23, the D23 thing, he was really, seemed really passionate about it. I think I actually think this in the Star Wars ones, he's not been phoning it in. No, he was good. He was good in, uh, he was like a one of a highlight of Rise of Skywalker. I agree. Um, but also he was in the scene with the only other person trying in that franchise.

That's so true. It was like on a blue screen. Oh my God. I just like, this is so, every, I, I would love to, I know we had talked about doing Indiana Jonesing, of course, and maybe we'll use this feed and get Rust back. That's not a horrible idea, yeah. And we'll go through the, before Indy 5 comes out, we'll hit them up. Right. But I do, I would love at some point to have a long, long discussion with you in a podcast. about the trilogy, the sequel trilogy of Star Wars. Oh, me too.

I could do that. Because it's like, it is, to me, it's still a thing where I am so confused by every choice made. Like, just like, and like, the fact that I was like reading I had read at some point not long ago that Kathleen Kennedy was, and Kathleen Kennedy, legendary. I mean, produced every great movie I loved as a child. And I think it's very talented. But like the choices that overseeing the franchise that she made, one of them being let's not do Galaxy's Edge as Tatooine, let's set it up as this Black Spire outpost and we'll set it between the two movies.

between which one between was it between Jedi and Force Awakens No no it's between Force Awakens and last Jedi Yeah or is it last Jedi Whatever it is whichever one it is It's like such a micro

Timeline to be in Yeah You like now you go I don't know if you've ridden The Rise of the Resistance I did for the first time A couple weeks ago and then I scammed my way in for a second ride.

Nice. Yeah. What did you, what did you think? It's a great ride. It is a great ride. It had been so overhyped and it wasn't like I was disappointed. I just, I really loved it. I had a great time.

But there's something a little sterile about it, but my favorite part, the whole thing, my favorite part, and this was an unintended consequence of the ride, is when there's a portion when you're in. line and you almost get a little mini ride, a little ride hors d'oeuvre, you know what you're talking about, the little transport shuttle. And when you come out of that, you're met by a Disney ride ops person who's not a performer who's like, you know, one of the people that's like, how many in your party, too, blah, blah, blah, but they are dressed like imperial commanders and I think instructed to be a little cold and mean. But what's hilarious, so they come in and they're very stern and they're barking

orders at you, but they're still wearing a, you know, a Disney name tag that says Jason or Cynthia or whatever. Jason, Ontario, California. Yes. So that killed me. And then to think, oh, wait, the parallels of the Disney Empire versus the Galactic First Order. Yeah, pretty spot on.

I took Henry on it. Like, when did we go? It must have been August. I took him on it And once we got into the line After the shuttle We get on the Imperial Star Destroyer Whatever the hell it is

Who knows We're in the hallway And we've been told to line up He looks at me and he goes Are we in Disneyland anymore Or are we in space I was like I was like

What do you think bud? Do you think we're in space? he goes, yeah. Wait, he thought they, like, he were really in space. Yeah. That's amazing. Because he's three. He's three and a half.

I mean, he doesn't know. See, that's when I love Disney because. Exactly. The fact that you could transport a child's imagination like that is so. So I said to him, I said to him, what do you think, bud? Do you think we're in space? And he goes, yeah. And I was like, we're in space.

Oh. And then we went on the rest of the ride. He had a great time. That's a lovely moment. It really was. It really was. It was very sweet. But it was also like, oh my God.

But the part of your childhood that, like, can be shaped by Disney is, like, such a magical time. And it's also, like, why a lot of us as adults have, like, this weird nostalgia for Disneyland and world. And it's something that, like, you have to sort of, you have to embrace it, I think, when you're in the park. You have to, like, ignore everything else and enjoy the bubble you're in. Yeah, I'm finding that's tougher and tougher because, well, we also went when it was super hot, but the app system's really like a, it feels like you're in a competition. It's so crowded. But still, you know, Amanda and I have been working on this podcast that's a limited series for Amazon and Audible about working for theme parks, you know, a lot to do with Disney.

That's coming out early next year. So we've gone to all the major theme parks and we've been talking to so many people. so it's just been on my brain. It's been a lot of work, but it's really fun. Hey, have you shown your guy any Bond movies yet? No. Because his attention span, I've noticed about him is he has a real problem with second axe. Yeah, I can see that.

He's like, when everything starts to go bad, be it for like goofy and his baseball bad breaks. And it's like he wants to like, go to the next thing. Like, not understanding that there's going to be a solution and it will be a rewarding conclusion to a thing. I'm forgetting how young he is too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's also like he doesn't like watching any adversity coming up against any of his

beloved characters. And he watches, he watches Mickey Mouse, roadster racers, mixed up adventures and Funhouse. There's three CG Mickey Mouse cartoon shows for preschool toddlers and he is like obsessed with them

and he gets to watch them every night at 5 o'clock before dinner at 5.30 and he's very specific and I don't I haven't figured it out yet what the what the pattern is but sometimes he asks

he's like he's like put on Fun House, not the beginning, which means he needs to skip the opening credits. And then there are nights where he's like, put on mixed up adventures from beginning. And he wants to watch the theme song. And it's like, I'm just like, I can't, I haven't figured out yet.

He's going to be a great Bond fan because, you know, he's going to be like, give me, diamonds are forever, but when they get to Circus Circus. give me blow up your pants to golden toilet paper i want pigeon double take till they get into space um i unfortunately you have to i can hear my child no go be a dad uh everyone one thing i want to oh i was just gonna say real quick i don't know if you've seen slow horses i've read the books and watched the first season on Apple TV.

It's a kind of misfit spy story. But if you're looking for a bond, sort of fun spy story, I really liked it. Noted. Gary Oldman, Olivia Cook from the new... I do like a Gary Oldman. Yeah, he's great in it.

Well, Matt, I'm excited that we get to re-release the Cracken, as they say. Yes. Re-release the Cracken. starting this Wednesday, October 5th, you'll have two episodes, episode zero and episode one in your feed. You'll get Dr. No, and they will release weekly from here on out. Come along on the journey for us.

I'm sure we'll pop in from time to time as best we can. Maybe that Indiana Jonesing is not a bad idea. That seems like what we might have to do, everybody. Yeah. Rust, where are you? Get in here. He stays at my house. I'd like him to fall through the ceiling.

That would be now. I'd like fall to arrive. All right, my friend. James Bonding will return. Stay subscribed. Bye. James Bonding podcast. James Bonding podcast.

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