James Bonding - License to Kill with Amanda Lund and Maria Blasucci

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

Amanda Lund and Maria Blasucci return to discuss License to Kill with the Matts! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Now entering nerdist.com. Really the way it starts? Yeah, it is. And crank, everybody at home, getting a beanbag, dim the lights. Crank up the Gladys Knight. The year was 1989. Big year for movies. Batman.

Indiana Jones and Last Crusade. U.H.F. Ghostbusters 2. And license to kill. Lethal weapon 2. Diplomatic immunity. Guys. Did we talk now?

Yeah, you could talk the whole time, guys. Guess who's back, everybody? We had Allie and Georgia at the WonderCon episode last time. We sure did. We thought we'd bring back Maria and Amanda to kick back into the positive. It's going to be a little hard with this one. Oh, that's what I'm thinking. I feel like I may be the only defender of this movie this thing. Well, I think I'm the second go-around.

I grew to like it a little bit more but also because I watched it without the audio and I just put on the commentary track Oh interesting Yeah I don't know if I liked it or not But I think by the end of this podcast I will have decided

So that's Amanda and this is Maria Hi guys You remember them from the Casino Royale episode Do we ever? In a well I still get Twitter followers from that I'm telling you I think that may be the single most quoted element of this podcast

Yeah I still think that That makes sense. In a well. If you guys didn't listen to that. Oh, come back. The opening scene of Casino Royale, the black and white section and your contact, how did he die? And Daniel Craig says, not well.

But Maria thought all along, she's been watching this for years. It's one of her favorite movies, if not your favorite. She thinks he says, how did he die in a well? Because he was in a bathroom. But that's the part. That's the least connectable thing to me. I can see, like, you haven't seen it, but I killed him. in a well.

But are you saying that's like a water, like water well. Like you're thinking maybe it's a British thing. Yeah, like in a well. Like, or he's trying to make it more dramatic than it is because. In a Lou. Or they might call Sinks Wells over there. Yeah. There's no way to really know.

Amanda, am I wrong to think that when I was watching the opening of Blacens to kill this opening number, you loved that opening. Am I wrong? She did. I do. I love this song. And I did love the opening. I thought those girls dancing would really get your go.

I will say I didn't think they were very good dancers. It was like all, they weren't like, oh, you, okay. It seemed like they were just marking it. The Asian lady dancing around in that thing. Why did she get such prominence in this opening credit sequence? I don't know, but I went to see a screening of this at the Alex Theater in Glendale, and David Hedison, the Felix Lider guy was there, who's really tall. You don't get it from the movies.

The Felix Lider, yeah. Because his legs get bit off. And that Asian lady was there. She was also in the playboy. Well, she must have been some sort of. a famous, you know, karate lady. Amanda, I'm just saying

because... The famous karate lady. That reminds me I got to talk about something in a little while. Because she did all the martial arts fighting in that one scene. I don't know if she's the ninja, though. She's not?

I don't know. Is she the same girl? I don't know. Oh, my bad. I don't know. It's either blatant racism or... I'm pretty sure that's the same... That's the same girl.

But what was the whole point of the cameras in the opening of that was never paid? off in the movie. Okay. Yeah. I was thinking about that. No, that's the

Q's camera, his fake camera thing, you put your hand in or whatever. That's the one thing. Here's what happened is that was the last movie that Morris Binder designed the titles for.

And I think at that point he's just like, I watched five minutes, there's a camera. I'm going to do it. He would look for one little thematic element and make the titles out of that. Like Vuda Kill is all skiing,

but the skiing's only in the opening part of that movie. That's true. Yeah. But, I mean, it goes from the open, part of the movie to the opening. Yeah.

So it makes some sense there. Yeah. Yeah, license to kill. This is the first time we're talking about Timothy Dalton movie. Yeah, and we're sorry we've been away for a while, but we're back with a passion. We've been gone for so long. Yeah. I've forgotten how to bond.

Yeah, since a regular podcast, the last one was, of course, live and let die with, was that right, with Paul? Yeah. How'd that go? Really well. It was great. You guys really have a lot to live up to. Who's in live and let die? Roger Moore.

Who's his first one? Who's the guy? Yeah. And Timothy Dalton was only in... How many James Bond? Two. And then they told him. This was his second one.

He's a divisive bond. People... And Pierce came after him. Yeah. I don't dislike him. Dalton? I like him. Yeah.

He's fine. Yeah. I think his first movie's a lot better. Definitely. I think he's fine. I don't think he had much to do. But do you think he's fine? No.

That's why I think he's one of the better looking ones, but I think he lacks a certain charisma that the others have. Even Brosnan has a little bit more charisma. Whoa. I know. Whoa. I know. Well, what I was thinking is like he's very handsome,

but I can't remember his face. Like his face does not register with me. It's got a lot of straight lines on us. He's got a lot of straight lines on his face. Oh, that's an interesting thing. If I were to draw him, I would use a lot of straight lines. You only need perpendicular lines up and down. I mean,

we should always talk about how we would draw our bonds. That's the new segment. You'd use a ruler for him. Yeah. Yeah. A right at triangle. So yeah, this is Timothy Dalton's second one. This is our first time talking about him.

So, I mean, let's just, I guess we should just sort of give an overall thoughts on Timothy Dalton. Well, he's really making an effort to get the Fleming's bond, which I really like. Yeah. But it does in the movie, especially in his movies, this one in particular, not having any humor. I don't know, the tone shift is really weird in this movie. There is some humor. There's a couple lines that kind of

feel placed in. Oh God, the one word. Looks like he ran into a wall or something. Oh, yeah, the end or the guy in the forklet. Yeah. So what do you want us to do with the money? Lander it. Well, that was good, but Robert Davy reveals that very nicely. Yeah. He delivers that. Bras and, I mean, Dalton's not so good with the one-liners.

But he does do a great reaction when he's driving that I put a picture of on Instagram. It was so ridiculous. Yeah, so license to go to 1989. This movie, I feel like, is a reaction of all the movies from the 80s. It is too much of a reaction. It's everything that people kind of liked in movies.

They tried to shove it in. Drug cartels. Drug cartels are big. Michael Kamen as the musical score. Who did the lethal weapon movies. Yeah, die hard. Die hard, of course. They even pull in bit part actress from Diehard.

So Robert Davy and the two Agent Johnsons are both in this movie from Die Hard. Yeah. Huh. Yeah. And then this, the, I just call him boat guy because I couldn't remember his name. Anthony Zerby? The watercress, yeah. Which one was he?

The one that gives his head blown up like a balloon. Oh, my gosh. That was shocking. PG-13, too. They were trying to use it to the. limit. Oh my God, that was great. And a 21-year-old Benicio del Toro. Oh, okay. He should have been Bond. Yes, he should have. I think I have a note in here. Wait a minute. I went, dang, Benicio looks good. Oh, three exclamation points on that,

everybody. He does look good. He looked great. He's stunning. But even back then, he's doing his weird acting. Nice honeymoon. Yeah, that was interesting choice. But that was only like, he kind of filled out fast, didn't he? Because That was like... You mean physically? Yeah. Yeah. Because that wasn't so long ago.

That was, what, 89? And then he did usual suspects, like, what, four years later? Yeah, and he's not, he doesn't look the same. Wonder if he met Brian Singer at a party. Oh. Oh, that's super topical. So, okay, let's start. This is a license to kill.

This is a Fleming story from somewhere. No. Isn't it? No. The title is. a Fleming. No, no, no. Oh.

But isn't the whole... Oh, it's got major chunks of Living Light Die. Yeah, yeah. It's from Living Light Die where he gets his legs bit off. Right. Down to the note. The note was the same, too. Which was he disagreed with something that ate him.

Oh, yeah. Which is great. Oh, my gosh. I love it. I love it. Well, let's start. So it opens with Bond and Felix getting ready to go to a wedding. And can I just say that this is 1989?

Mm-hmm. The height of my. Bond fervor. So I was so into James Bond at this point. Maybe I was on, maybe this is what kind of like leveled me out a little bit because living daylights too was right when I was big into it. So this, this summer was huge for me. I was 16.

Oh boy. These movies are coming out. I'm 16. Oh, God. Forget it. This world was made for me at this point. And so I ate this movie up. Like a shark.

So I imagine most of me defending this movie is nostalgia. Well, there's not, I mean, there is some stuff that you should defend, but there's a lot of stuff that will let slide based on it being 1989. Yeah. So let's talk about the gray suits at the wedding. That's very 80s. Oh, I love those old English suits. Those look nice, though.

I like them. I'm thinking maybe bring that back a little. You guys want to bring it back? I thought they looked very nice. The whole wedding party, though, freaked me out. All those pastels and, like, the women with long hair. I mean, I like it. I really like that aesthetic, but it was jarred.

It's Seinfeldian. You know? It's that Seinfeld scary. Like everyone, every man back then looked like a pervert. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, every man was a pervert back then. It looks like it.

Yeah. We actually held a meeting in 93 where he said, let's stop with a pervert look at us. Yeah, I think that's a cyclical thing. So there's always the era immediately before you and the era before that looks really cool, but the era immediately before you always looks pervish. I don't know what you are. You think so? Yeah.

Because that's what your uncles looked like. Yeah, because if you look back like into, To 2,000. It's whatever your uncles look like. And you got like Ed Hardy looking dudes. Pretty pervy, right? Yeah, yeah. I guess so.

Yeah, my theory holds up. Yeah, your premise is strong, I guess I'll say. Yeah. The, okay, so they're heading to a wedding, right? They're in a limo. They're driving across the True Lies Bridge. Yeah. Route 1.

Yeah. I love True Lies. Yeah, I know. We should do a special True Lies episode. It's a better Bond movie than some Bond movie. Tom Arnold at his. best. At his only best.

You're not kidding, by the way. He's so good in that. It's the only time, really, right? He's so good in true lies. I will put his performance up against any comedic foil in any movie. Wow. Tom, he's amazing. Yeah, he's pretty good.

He's so funny. He's playing off Arnold so well, and we should have Tom Arnold on the podcast. Yeah. Sometimes I see him at Chibo, so. Oh, really? If we hang out over there, maybe we'll get him. Okay. Yeah, sure.

Let's do it. So the wedding, Felix is getting married. Felix Lider. This is, of course, the first time. they bring back a Felix. This is, yes, this is the only time that a Felix has been played by the same actor next to Jeffrey right now. Correct, yeah, yeah.

And a lot of people don't like this game, but I like them. Who doesn't like them? I don't know, I just feel like I hear... I don't mind them. You think his hair's too curly? I love him. That's why I only complain. I didn't have much to do.

He didn't say much. Like, I didn't even... I honestly didn't know what was going on at the beginning because I'd never seen any other Bond movie before this. Ironically... Well, no, I mean, like, in the... Oh, chronologically. Chronologically.

Yeah. Chronic. Chronicologically. Chronic logic. Like, I'd seen, I'd seen the golden eye. The common sense of marijuana with Maria. Isucci. Chronic logic. Chronic logic.

It's just a podcast where you're talking about weed and your favorite lines from Star Trek. With Spockles. So I didn't know who was who. Yeah, I didn't know who was James Bond at first. And then it really didn't? Well, no, because everyone was doing the same amount of work. Like, no one was going above and beyond. I remember the first time I saw

Honor Majesty's Secret Service. I watched it for like 30 minutes, not knowing that Lazy's and B was actually James Bond. I didn't put it together. Yeah. Let's hear what it's like when you get stopped on the way to your wedding and you're going with your buddy.

Okay. This is in the Bahamas. Have you cleared it with Nashville? We've got the green light. Let's go. Hey, Felix, Felix! Haven't you forgotten something? Oh, uh, James.

Explain to Della, will you? No way. I'm coming with you. Okay. but strictly as an observer. Sorry, Shalky. Hey, Klaffi! Why only is an observer?

Well, because he's there as a British agent. He's not there in any official capacity, so they don't want any messy paperwork. Okay. Because in the 80s, a lot of cops were concerned with paperwork. Well, what Felix is afraid of is that James Bond is going to use a skydive maneuver to catch a plane by the tail and cable at all. Are we there yet?

We're getting there right now. Dark Night Rises style. I know. Pulled a lot from these movies. Is that possible to do that? I think so. Is that possible to pull a plane out of the sky like that? Yes.

With another plane. Yeah. Well, with a helicopter, yeah. Interesting. Yeah. You guys got plans now this weekend? Oh, man. Let's go fish it.

Real quick, spot Michael G. Wilson. Michael G. Wilson's hands are in the first. No, those are his hands drawing the line. I listened to the commentary last night with Michael G. on it. So, who's Michael G. Wilson? He's the producer and writer of this movie, aka Scab.

He has a, oh, yeah, because it was just the writing strike was happening, so he finished the script. He was the, he's also had a cameo in every one of these movies, basically. So we play a game called Spot Michael G. Wilson. Yeah. And this one, you just have to spot his voice where he says, Crabke. I think he wanted Crabke.

Yeah. So drug cartel situation James is immediately dragged into, so Felix apparently is on some case. where he's taking down this drug lord and trying for a while on his wedding day hey look at there's a window let's go get him and uh they have a large uh scale machine gun fight at an airfield and then uh uh robert davy takes off in a in a sessna and and james is not having it so he gets in a helicopter and then goes fishing yeah he goes plane fishing

which uh manna's sneezing no man it's okay I didn't end up sneezing. You sneezed once. It was tiny, though. You have no proof. Let's talk about this scene, though. I think it's very well done. It's a great stunt.

It's really good. And I think that Timothy Dalton really looks good in a harness. I don't, because when I wrote this down, even when he was being dropped down from that helicopter with his diaper body. Oh, that's so gross. He looks like he's flapping his wing.

He does not. telling him whether or not to lower him. Think about, like, this is the guy that's supposed to be, like, the sex he's got this big diaper pants and he's, like, flapping his wig. Diper pants. He does. Yeah, that was repulsive. It really was. He can't be wearing that.

He's just floating around. We got to talk about that Dalton does a lot of his own stunts, probably more than any blonde. That's why they look so awkward. Yeah, maybe. Well, okay. So they catch, they catch him with the helicopter, and then. they're like, oh my God, we're late for this wedding. How are we going to get there?

Lucky for them. They both have parachutes on. So they parachute to the wedding. I love that. I love it, too. It's just weird then that you follow this with immediately Felix's torn to treads by sharks.

It's immediately followed. Well, what do you mean? That's what? What do you mean? There's all these lighthearted moments and then these dark, Fleming-esque moments that, yeah. Just listen to the reaction of this crowd as they

Yeah, these guests are no good Especially with those little kids This is an Easter wedding She's more excited to see James No Della's like obsessed with James Yeah, yeah Okay, so The casting is also a little odd in this movie too

So you've got Priscilla Barnes Who is, he's not supposed to be Coral Jr, is he? He's the exact same character type Yeah Yeah But you got Priscilla Barnes from Three's company Some strange camera All right.

Priscilla Barnes also in mall rats. Can I say the one that really got me the most? What? Wayne Newton. Oh, yeah. Oh. Isn't he great? I cannot wait to discuss what the fuck is going on with that.

Rayford Johnson is in this movie. I don't know who that is. He was an athlete that carried the torch, the last leg for the 1984 L.A. Olympics. Oh, well, of course. We should all know that. We should all be aware of that. But he was a great athlete. I don't remember what he did.

The, okay, so. He still got that big parachute on. They don't take those parachute off. That's their train. All right. It's so awkward. Everyone moves really awkwardly in this movie, if I may. There's no sense of urgency.

No, no, not at all. I think what's interesting, too, is like when we were listening to that scene, if you listen to these people and don't watch them, the acting sounds even worse. Yeah. And what's funny is during this commentary track, during this commentary track, a few of them said when they watch this, they wish they could have done better. they wish they could go back who said that

David what's his face Edison said it and and Richard Gears' wife whose name I forget Carrie Lowell Who's that? The Bond Girl

Oh the short hair She also said the same exact thing Was Timothy Dalton on the commentary? He was not He probably feels like he did fine He's got no one He's the kind of guy So for the folks at home

I'm going to try this little exercise We're going to now listen And not watch them act I'll close my eyes. And it's pretty awful. Okay. Okay. Even that laughter. This is Ernest Hemingway's house.

Really? Yeah. Sorry. No, no. Come in. We're finished. Have me changed. Goodbye, Felix. They're all on different movies. Yes, they are.

Strictly business, my friend. Switch that thing off, Felix. You know you have a house full of guests waiting. Just let me save this. Take a see. The department was a full report yesterday. We really hit it lucky today Sanchez hasn't been out of his home base for years

But couldn't you extradition? Not a chance He has killed, accommodated or bribed half the government officials from here to Chile There's only one law down there Sanchez's law Oh my God There's no urge. There's no stakes This guy's the best

Noble congratulations old buddy Old buddy Everybody's the character That's his law You must be bought Okay Okay, so that's four different people we heard all in a different movie. They all sound the same.

But not, they're like the same weird character types from different places. So you've got an English guy like this, then saying, hey old buddy. Yeah. And then Sanchez is love. I don't know. I can't do it them all three. It's very strange. Here's some interaction between Felix and Della and James.

Also, jump up. James loved. From Dr. Nell. Are they playing it? Yeah. Oh, I didn't catch that. is the weirdest thing in the world. How she kisses him?

Know this? And then they cut real quick. They show that fire burst and they cut so quick off of it. They want you to know that if he needs to light someone on fire, he can. Okay. That'll come in handy later. Have we already been through the titles? Well, we talked about them earlier.

I should add. Please. That they sampled the horns from Goldfinger and got sued by the writers of Goldfinger. how within the same series of movies they got sued by themselves. Oh my God. Well, yeah, those were the same. Yeah.

Oh, see, I wrote same song as Goldfinger. Oh. Now, there is no alternate song for this, except there was one, but it doesn't exist anymore. And it was Eric Clapton. What? Just doing like a rock instrumental theme song, and no one has ever been able to find it.

Really? Isn't that crazy? But when you think of that era, because like Clapton and Sting did the theme song for Lethal Weapon 2, and Michael came and worked with Eric Clapton a bunch. Yeah. That would have been strange.

That would have made it super 80s. We could have found that, I think, if we just try a little harder. I don't think anybody's ever been able to find it. If you're out there. It was recorded? Uh-huh. Yeah, but never released. But I just want to, I'll play you so you can hear Jump Up, which is the song, ladies,

the song from Dr. No, the first James Bond movie. I think is going to happen. As soon as the cake is the... I'm tired of myself. What are these? Lourge. Well, these will keep you busy. Loers.

Kind of going fishing on my honeymoon. Well, you kind of are. Oh, wait. I'm at the wrong spot. But anyway, we heard more acting. That was nice. We heard more acting. It's very hard not to hear acting in this movie, and it's very hard to watch this movie.

Those are the things I'll say. This is a movie I'll put on. This is one of the ones I'll put on. I enjoy this movie. Actually, I had seen parts of it before because you've been watching it. Yeah. What? Why?

I just, it's one that I think, maybe. Maybe it's the nostalgia factor. It's one of the ones I'll throw on. I always go early. Because of that short-haired bond girl because of what you used to do. Here it is. Amanda. I'm sorry, but he said when he was a little boy.

What did you do? What did you do? Well, I was 16 when this movie came out, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when it came out on VHS, that was a special thing. No. Come on. Buddy, it's okay.

We're all adults here. That's gross. You would put humans, nobody, short blonde hair on your pillow and sleep with it at night? What? Why would you do this? Is that what you would do? Yeah. I don't know.

I'm a little younger than him. Yours would have been. Terry Hatcher. Oh, Harry Tatcher. You guys are repulsed by humans. But here it is. Oh. It's like an 80s.

It's an 80s remix. I love this kind of music, by the way. Like this calypso. Killefer. Hey, old buddy. Yeah. He's in powder blue throughout this entire movie. Interesting.

Yeah. Very. Powder Blue is everywhere in this movie. Powder Blue is all over the place. The, okay, so, drug escape happens. Let's figure this out. So James is all set to leave the country. He's like, great, I had a wedding, I got a lighter.

I'm on my way back to England. Meanwhile, this escape happens. Sanchez pays off somebody. You don't know who it is. You're supposed to think it's the guards, but it's actually cigar guy The guy that plays Sanchez

Goonies guy He was doing a lot of these creepy roles back in the day We're gonna talk about him in length Because I had a special personal Run in with him Oh my gosh He's a scary fellow

But he's like a singer right Tell me about it Yeah Yeah Just when do you want to take some time And do that later on No I think that we're gonna We're gonna get into Sanchez right now

So I feel like now's a good time Okay Robert Davy Have you not told the story before? I've told the like it in a nutshell, but we've always saved it for this episode because this is his. So Amanda plays a part in this as well a little bit too. Do I? Well, you just were there when this whole thing was. Oh yeah, I was around. Yeah. And you knew how tense I was about this. Yeah, I can attest to that.

Okay. So I wrote these blog posts reviewing the James Bond movies. And if you Google goarly ranks the bonds, you can not only read about what I originally said, but my reaction after. So when I got to license to kill, I kept saying that his name's Robert Dobby's. I kept saying Davy is a dick. And I was just sort of like, he's the villain of the movie. I'm going to make him the villain of the blog piece. But when I was younger, I did this like guest spot on a talk show and he was the guest on the talk show. And I was doing like a comedy segment.

He was making, he had won an award for making the world's most authentic toilet bowl flush sound. Matt. Matt? So Matt was doing the talk show circuit. Is that true? He won't do it. Ask him, Matt, you know why he won't ever do it? Because he needs props.

I'm so confused What do you mean? Okay, hang on Let's back this story Let's back this whole thing up What do you mean? First of all, how do you get the word out

That you do the most authorizing? Also, where are you competing? Oh, there's logic to all this whole thing I can explain everything And then he hosted the competition for years after What competition? Wait, what is this? Is this like the air guitar finals?

Basically, here's the deal. This would have been like 96, 97 and I was doing regular improv through comedy sports. And so this, I can never remember the company, but it was like the number one manufacturer of toilet bowl parts.

Like that bulb and lever and chain thing that goes in. And so they put out word to comedy groups that they were going to host a toilet flushing sound effect. So they called comedy sports, and the guy that runs comedy sports knew that I apparently did sound effects all right. And so he

said, all you have to do is call and leave your impression on their answering machine. I did it. And so I got selected and it was me and like five other people. And you had to go down there at like 10 a.m. in the morning and like Tustin. And it was this media event. They had cameras and everything there. And so everybody else was just like some strange shut in. And and I just made a comedy bit about turning counterclockwise because of the Coriolis effect draining thing in a toilet and then used water. And again I won. And so then I won a thousand dollars. What? And, uh, like, toilet parts and then I you won toilet parts yeah build your own

yeah and so then I did a bunch of radio and TV things like like they put you on the circuit yes basically and so I did this show and I do not remember

what it was but it was like a talk show that took place in the set of a living room on the universal back lot and Davy was there he he what was it

is the profiler what was his show uh uh I'm just looking for a clip of you making a toilet. No, it doesn't exist. I know.

I know. I've worked extensively. Why doesn't it exist? I don't know. But I have a videotape of a bunch of stuff. It's like the air quote Eric Clapton song. He wasn't very nice. And he rode in on a big motorcycle.

He just... He rode in on a motorcycle? Yeah. He's just when the commercial... I think he... Look, I'm going to defend him because the end of this story is. I have no problem with him. I enjoy him in this movie.

He's great in this movie. And I should... Profiler. He was Agent Bailey Malmon. alone. But he was just kind of a bit of a jerk, and he and I have talked about this since. But so he, uh, he just wasn't nice to people. Maybe he was in that part in your career where you're the little tense or something.

I don't know. So I just made a joke out of it, never thinking for a second that he would ever read this blog. In fact, if I would ever thought he would, I would have never done it because who wants to hurt anybody's feelings. But the day that this thing goes up, I get an email from him. He obviously has a Google news alert. He said his publicist found it.

But. Well, publicist has a Google News alert. Someone in the camp. Sure. Someone in Camp Davy. I don't know that he fully grasped that I was just some random guy writing a blog post. I think he thought maybe this was a legit article or something like that. And so he also, he said, hey, you shouldn't get on someone for having different political views than you.

Let's do an interview. Could be fun. And it had a, I don't know. I wasn't exactly sure. What? What? So listen. Yeah.

So I just decided to go for broke and went, I wrote you back and I went, I'm sorry, I didn't know you would read this, but in my defense, I met you once and you really were kind of a dick. But let me buy you dinner and I would love nothing more than to sit there and listen to you talk about James Bond and whatever, never thinking that he would do it. And sure enough, yep, he writes back, let's have dinner. You had dinner with Robert Dobby? I had dinner with Robert Dobby. It's amazing. So tell them where you went and everything. Yeah, so he goes. We got them all dressed up.

When was this? This was about maybe a year ago, yeah? Yeah. Right about the time Skyfall was coming out. So a year and a half or so, I don't know. So I suggested Little Dom's just thinking like, this is going to be like the scene from the godfather with Salazzo, where I'm like going to go in and I'm scared and I thought that's perfect.

And he's Italian and I thought he'll love Little Don's. He's kind of more on the west side, so he had never heard of it. So I know. So we went to his place that he goes to all the time, this Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills. Called? Oh, I can't remember. I can't remember.

But I showed up on time and he was a half hour late. And I am sweating bullets. Just sitting there. I mean, I'm actually looking over my shoulder because I know he's a little reactionary sometimes. And obviously, if he's going to have this dinner with me, he either wants to have a laugh about it or wants to dress me down. I don't know. So I'm sitting there and I'm very tense. And then a half hour late, he shows up.

He's got his Davy does Sinatra. Davy sings Sinatra. I guess there's a distinct difference. Yeah, if you'd like to hear. Oh, he sounds great. My heart says, yes indeed in me. He transcends age and ideology. Is the CD just all songs merging into one another?

It's never a full song. So he shows up, he hands me the CD, and I can tell right away that it's okay. He's like he's here. He wants you to like him. He does. And he's... And hadn't you already, like, ordered a bottle of wine? I think so, yeah, yeah.

And we had a four-hour dinner. How does that even happen in life? I don't know. I can't tell you. Like, we talked for, like, pretty quickly, we talked about the situation. Have you ever been on a four-hour date? I think so, yeah. Yeah, I mean...

At one dinner? No. Okay, because you're human beings and you're normal. Maybe two and a half, three hours for work as I can go. That's reasonable. Maybe a four-hour brunch, though, I think we've done. You can do a four-hour brunch, as long as there's a buffet. So we eat a ton and we drink a lot.

And he's just ordering. What was said at the beginning to be like, hey, let's be cool about all this? I was very nervous. So I'm having a little trouble recalling, but if I remember, he goes, so, Matt, what happened that you hate me or something like that? And I told him the story. And he somehow remembered that show where he was like, I think I wrote in on a motorcycle and like, yeah, that's the one. And at this point, like he was just there with an olive branch and so was I. So it wasn't like we had any real tension other than getting through that first hurdle.

Then for the next three, we talked very little about Bond sadly. The next three hours because he's very, very conservative and very political and really right wing. And so we talked politics for three hours. And it ended with him saying, you know, the people on the left like you, you know, something like blah, blah, blah, blah. but you're okay, you're a pure soul. And then it ended with him saying, we've got to go out with our ladies. Which we have yet to do.

Yeah. I did invite him to your birthday party. He never come. I think that this podcast will probably show up in his Google News feed. Well, I have nothing but nice things to say about him. He truly is a gentleman. And then the other thing is I took him there with the understanding that I would pay for dinner

because I felt like I had to. I went to the bathroom like six times just because we had so much to drink. And when I came back one time, he had taken care of it. So he was a nice guy. He's out there in a good way, but he's a real gentleman. And if you get a chance to go to a four-hour dinner with him, I highly recommend it. So then you can read the blog post that I detail it more.

I bet my memory was fresher than you can read up on those. But it was a crazy situation. Just having dinner with a Bond villain was amazing. And you didn't talk much about Bond? Not as much as I wanted to. He really wanted to talk politics. Wow. And did you guys exchange phone numbers or anything? I think so. Well, I don't know. Well, we certainly have each other's emails.

I mean, I know I could email him and remind him who I was. Because we've also corresponded on Twitter a few times since. That's nice. Yeah. In fact, when I wrote the blog post, he tweeted it and sent his people to it. And it's just a funny story. Wow. Yeah, I mean, I do get a little nervous just thinking about it. I was scared.

Was the food good? Yeah, it was really good. That makes That makes sense We shared a dessert too Oh no In ice cream Sunday What was it

A warm brownie? Yeah We had a couple desserts where we just Ticket for each other's plates We were fast friends by the end I miss them Robert if you're listening

You're out there Call me buddy Let's do lunch Yeah Get your ladies out there Yeah We should I'd love to meet his lady

I think we all would Great That's nice, Matt. I will say that watching some of the interviews on this DVD and listening to the commentary, I enjoyed him the most. Yeah, he's a character. Yeah. He seemed the most, oh yeah, that's what he's like. It seemed to fit.

It seemed to match him the most. And he's an iconic actor of the 80s, like you said, Goonies and Die Hard. Yeah, that's why he creeps me out so much because the Goonies, he was such a, he, ugh. He's great in the Goonies. that last week. He's scary. And I hadn't watched it in a long time and I of course loved that movie for when I was a kid but he's so good in that movie. Doesn't he scare you though? Yeah, yeah, that's his deal, you know, that's his essence. His essence is scary. But he's also a classically trained opera singer. That's why he sings that. You know what? Oh, that's the scariest,

that's the scariest part of that movie. He won't let you forget it. No, either. He will not let you forget it if he can sing. So, uh, escape happens. He gets out underwater, which introduces This is the more underwater stuff for the James Bond franchise. Yes. How can you put goggles on underwater? We've talked about this at length. We've discussed this because I couldn't figure it out either, but apparently it works. You just put an air bubble in.

You put them on and then you blow air out your nose and it drains the water out. Thank you. You're welcome. How does that happen? How does that happen? Does the goggles go over your nose? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, mask.

Oh, I thought you meant just like eye goggles. Oh, no, no. In which case, your question was very valid. Then you have to blow air out your eyeballs. Yeah. Which my friend Jeff can do. What? Yeah.

Oh, no. If we get Greg Proops and Jeff Davis, he can blow air out his eyes. In fact, it makes a noise, so maybe we'll get him to do it in the mic. No, no, no, don't. Because then his tears shoot all over you. No. They do. But do you remember there was a woman on stupid human tricks of Latterman once that did that with milk.

She didn't milk and shot milk out her eyeballs. Matt, you and your friends are very talented. I don't like that. It's out the, it's not just out the tear dog. It's not out your eyeballs. That's one thing to do that with water, but you're going to have milk in your tear duct, which is going to get bad. Because I once laughed and shot chocolate milk out my nose, and it smelled, it was a hot day, and my whole nose just felt like it rotted. We're getting off track, boys. Your listeners don't want to hear this stuff.

I think they do. I'm pretty sure they don't. So, okay. Once Sanchez escapes, he sends men to Felix for some reason, which I still haven't figured out. Just revenge, or does he need to feel? file. Well, he does need that file, but they don't find it. Yeah. But probably revenge as well. Yeah. But then they get that woman's name, right? Oh, Pam Bouye. Yeah. Do they? Good boy, you're following this plot better than I.

Who's Pam Bouvieh. She's the little short-haired one. But she's a wig in the first scene. Oh. I have a lot to say about this little transformation she makes. Yeah, I have some thoughts. Oh, interesting. Because I listened to the commentary and heard her talk about it so I can hopefully help you guys. And I can add nothing but my 16-year-old desires. But let's take a listen to Anthony Zell. What's his name? Zerby. Because I just enjoy him so much.

Yeah, he's good. He'll take you the 12-mile limit, fast boat to Cuba. You'll be there for breakfast. Relax. We went for that of you. Look, you crazy. You got everybody looking for you. Cop here is nuts.

I want to deep-sex him. I made a deal with this guy, and I'm going to keep my word. I don't like it. He can finger me. I spent a fortune. So he doesn't want to be fingered. Look at that butt. Let's look at that butt.

Look at Davy's butt, everybody. Dovee's butt. Davy, you got some new fans here. Oh, yeah. Those pants are really getting in there. That's his character, everybody. Is this not the brightest, colored, like, cinematography-wise, Bond movie there is?

Everything's sky blue and pal. Well, I think it's just because of a nature of where they were, right? Although I say, I would say for your eyes only is very bright. Yeah, but that one's still like the film grain. This one, like, is a perfect storm of pastels and skies and 80s. I love that Key West setting. That is a lot of fun for me. Guys, let's go to Key West.

I love Key West. Yeah, let's do it. So, okay. Wave-Krist guy, who I'm pretty sure just there to help him smuggle cocaine, right? Or is it heroin? What is it? I think it's cocaine. Yeah, it's cocaine, because it's the gasoline cocaine thing.

Oh, I gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't know if you can bury heroin and turn it into gasoline. No, only cocaine can you easily turn into gasoline. That's definitely real. Oh, sure. Okay.

Yeah. Okay, so now what's happened is they have Felix, and let's just go ahead and have a listen to Felix's. Well, we'll call it his demise. I'll see you in hell. Yeah. Listen to that score. I'm not a fan of the score. Everybody wants to.

Yeah. Oh, there is Benicio. Benicio looks good. Yeah. Where's my wife? Don't worry. We gave her a nice honeymoon. What does that mean?

I think he's going, I've got one line. I'm going to make it happen. Honeymoon. I want you to know this is nothing. Bosnard. It's purely business. I love that there's a trapdoor to a shark tank. Yeah, that's a lot of fun.

That's cool. So why do they need to put the meat on the other thing? I think the meat was there because once the meat gets eaten by the shark, then the weight will change and it will drop because they... So the meat's exactly the same as him. Yeah, they really like Rube Goldberg devices of killing. By the way, where are they, like they're in a pet store? Yeah, exactly.

Look at all that powder blue, guys. There's some sort of a trap door. I love worse things than dying only. I like that guy's thing. No, today's the first day of the rest of your life. Dobby's good. The shark get off his man part? No, just as, well, just his legs.

In the book, it's one leg. It might be an arm. That's what it is in this, too, I think. Oh, yeah. I mean, we don't know if it bit off his man parts or not. In the book, he continues to help James, but he's got a fake leg and a fake arm. He has a hook. No way.

Yeah, that's the hook. He walks with a cane and a fake leg and a hook. He does. Cool. I can't wait. Why does anyone have a hook? It's really, really functional. Well, I mean, think about it.

Back before, like, prosthetic articulating hands, that was the best they could do, because there was a hook with a little lever. that they could. Because otherwise you just got a big clunker. You know, it might look better. Yeah. The hook is much more functional. Yeah.

It's pre-game of Thrones. Okay, so now Bond goes back. Let me tell you something about that airport worker. She is sexier. Who? Than it? This woman. Oh, yeah.

She's very, very. She, the woman at the ticket desk. Oh, can I tell you about sexy Bond girls? Yeah, you can. I think this happened to you. we talked about this. I noticed I got a new follower on Twitter. Right.

And it is a Bond Girl who is the Bond Girl, I guess. She's in a Bond movie. In Four Year Eyes Only, when the motorcycle crashes into that flower shop when they're in, is it, where are they in France? They're like in Zurich or something. Yeah. Yeah. She's the flower lady. So she followed me.

She followed you too, right? And her profile says Bond Girl. like conservative triple X actress squirder single single then a second account of the same woman followed me and it said bond girl Christian

single squatter Christian single squirder Christian single squirder I can remember her name and if she listens I mean no offense I was just fascinated by by now look how careful you are now I know.

Yeah, I've learned a lesson. It's a good lesson to learn. I would like say that Matt would gladly take you to dinner. And with your ladies. Take both of you to dinner. So Felix, James, how does James get alerted? That's two bond girls that follow me on Twitter. That's great.

Come on, honey. That's pretty good. Get over it. Come on. It's pretty good. So James goes back and finds Felix. Great note on there. Does they agree with something that...

Disagree with something that... What does he say? What does it say? He disagreed with something that ate him. Ha ha, wink, wink. Quarrel and James get on the case. Not coral, we'll call him. Sharky.

Sharky. Della's dead. And has Della's dead? And has Della been introduced in another movie? No. No. So Della's just... She's pure invention.

She's not in the books or anything. It's obvious that James is in love with Della. You think so? She's in love with him. No, that's what it is. I think he's in love with her, too. Well, they may... Well, they make great pains to, like, when he gives her the lighter and he doesn't want to talk about his previous marriage.

They tie it back to the Honor Majesty's Secret Service. Did you notice that? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. They did a good job. Okay. Kind of.

All right. So, Bond now, here's what Bond has to do. He has to figure out what the fuck is happening. So Bond actually has to do some spy work, some actual detective work. Yeah. He's got to track this down. He's got to find the wave crest. He's got to get in on the thing.

He takes quarrel with him. Now, just a couple of things here. We're like 30 minutes in. He's done basically nothing. Like, Bond's done, like, one thing. He caught a plane. Maybe. He caught a plane.

Like, and now he's just kind of, like, walking around. First of all, he's really, he's too happy for Bond. You know what I mean? Like, he's that, he's really happy. Really? I don't ever think of Dalton as happy. I never think of Dalton as happy. Oh, I do.

He's been smiling this whole movie at that wedding. He's so happy. Oh, well, because of course he's happy at the wedding. But then, where is that? the British government? Like, what is he on Lee? Like, what is he doing? He's on vacation right now to go see. And that's why he's, it's only now when he gets him broiled in the case

for revenge. So he's did we already go through the, I have a note about the maggots that he dips his hand into. Those are the worst looking fake maggots I've ever seen in my life. They're just rubber. They're literally just

rubber. And it's just one big thing underneath them moving them. Yeah, like a couple air bladders over there. It's real bad. Okay, so yeah, he's on vacation. That makes a little more sense because so far it just seems like he's kind of just been walking around. Yeah, strolling. There's some real interesting choices right now, just in the screenshot of what he's doing. Oh, my God, yeah.

This guy looks more like lighter. He looks like he should be in the Boomtown rats or some 80s new wave man. Who are they playing? What do you mean? Like, who are these characters? These are FBI. That's James's other buddy. That's Felix and then Sharky

who technically is just Quarrel. Quarrel is a character from a couple other James Bond movies but I guess the time has passed enough. I like that little guy. Hell, they sell more here than in the state of Oregon. Oregon. Look at our work he gives. We'll have to wait and see.

I gotta go. Have these actors never acted before like the one-line actors? It feels like they haven't since. But it just seems like none of them have any real position. Zaz. I know.

Let's just, I want to get a little more broad strokes on this movie. So, Felix obviously has helped James a lot. You know,

James has helped him a lot? They've been friends for years. Has James ever helped Felix? I don't know. James just sort of leaves a mess for Felix to clean up. Yeah. So now Felix is,

is wounded and his wife is dead, and James feels some sort of sense of, like, I must avenge his death. so James goes out looking for revenge He goes rogue

Is this the first going rogue? No Because they do this a bunch after this movie No Doesn't he go rogue in Honor Maggily Secret Service? Kind of, only kind of This is the first one

It seems like a liability to the... Yeah, they try to shoot him They do try to shoot him Yeah And M's only complaint is There's too many people In this backyard In the backyard

Where there are no people Yeah Actually, I would like to play that interaction, which is happening right now. We're getting a lot of audio clips here. People start to complain about this. Oh, they don't like audio clips? I'm sorry, I didn't know he didn't like audio clips because I don't give a shit. Didn't play it.

I'm going to. I enjoy listening. And watching. You were supposed to be in Istanbul last night. I'm afraid this unfortunate lighter business has clouded your judgment. You have a job to do. Clouded it. I expect you on a plane this afternoon.

I haven't finished here, sir. Leave it to the Americans. It's their mess. Let them clear it up. Sir, they're not going to do anything. I owe it to lighter. Look at that chin. He's put his life in the line for me many times. Oh, spare me this sentimental rubbish.

He knew the risks. And his wife? This private vendetta of yours could easily compromise her majesty's government. You have an assignment. And I expect you to carry it out objective. and professionally. Then you have my resignation, sir. We're not a country club,

2007. Effective immediately. Your license to kill is revoked. This is the most bond-like scene. Yeah, you know? This is what? Like a very bond-like scene. So what's this old British guy doing in the Keys?

Oh, he came to get James. Oh, he did. He came all the way down there. Yeah. Oh, that's M. came to the Keys. That's Judy Dench. Yeah. Oh, great.

You know, this guy is always, he's underrated. He's great. He had to take over for Bernard Lee. Yeah, not easy. Big fuse to fill. What is his name, Robert Brown? Yeah. I have his autograph.

Do you? Yeah. Oh, cool. On one of those trading cards. On my breast. Yeah. So James Goes Rogue, which is, you know, something that they use again and again and again. Over and again.

Because he's a loose canon, because that's his personality. Oh, they should just rename it Loose Cannon in 07. Nice. Right, that's not a good name. You're all right. Okay, so now James has to go, you track this down. So he figures out the wave crest connection. So now he's going to go swim over to the wave crest,

but he does it with the Manta Ray suit. That was super weird. Where does he get that? He gets the Manta Ray cover. But is that as a disguise? Yeah. Yeah. It worked, didn't it?

It worked. I think I may have missed that part. Unless I thought that was just a real manoray. Probably, yeah. And then he unclokes himself. Yeah. For no reason. I'd as well to stay cloaked, buddy.

But that water ski scene was pretty cool. I love that action sequence. Yeah, that was pretty cool. That is a decent action sequence. I'll give you that. If you take note, the money, the big cubes of money, wrapped in a powder blue cell. Oh, my God.

You're just finding up things that I didn't even know. The Terry cloth. Yeah, so Bonn goes in his Manta Ray costume to the wave crest. It's also great use of the Bond theme when he gets up on the foot skis. That's where, see, that's what they did in Casino Royale so good. In that last scene when he's walking up. They saved it to the end. Yes, but this was great how they used it in this.

That was a great action sequence. I'd play a clip, but people don't like clips. No, play it. I'm sorry. Well, there is no dialogue in there. I mean, they're just going to be hearing a lot of sound effects. But I did want to, so he goes there, he finds out that there's cocaine on this boat, and he finds out that it has something to do with, what's his name?

Sanchez. Sanchez. Why can't I remember that name? I just want to keep calling him Robert Davy. That's fine. All right. Something to do with Robert Davy. James Bond waterskies, throws the pilots out of the boat, and then flies back to look for, he goes back to Felix's house to find this disc, this file that they need.

And by the way, I love old computer, like computer, like computer, programs that are just like it says like search and you type in anything you want and then all of a sudden like a list of things will go off. Yeah, it's a cursor prompt and you go. Yeah, I love that. You should see for your eyes only because they do, he brings Bond into a room and Bond rather than have like a police sketch artist explains what this guy looks like and Q types it in and you see this old computer monitor form his face and the guy's, yeah,

that's crazy. I love it. Now we come to the roadhouse scene. Oh, Amanda's favorite scene. I love this bar. Roadhouse was a popular film. Oh, yeah. You know, on VHS at the time.

Yeah, you're not kidding. Like, every scene is just basically a reference to some movie before it. So now we're in the Roadhouse scene. This is where we meet the main Bond Girl. This is where we meet Pambouier. So here, I don't know how I feel about this whole thing. This whole scene doesn't belong in this movie. It doesn't match the tone of any other movie.

I didn't know where she came from. I didn't know what she was doing. It wasn't until like the last scene when I was like, oh, she's done, she's a part of this movie. I don't know what she was doing here. Well, she had a shotgun. But tell you the truth, I'm not entirely sure either. I really don't remember. Did she work for the American government?

Yes. She is CIA, right? She is CIA. Bud with a lime. She's gone. That looks so good. I love this waitress, too, those shorts. Let me see.

They're like this high hooter shorts. It's Dario. I don't find her nearly as. attractive with the longer hair. Well, that's a wig. Yeah, I know, but still. Matt, you're doubting my wig, Dar?

Oh, that's true. I'm sorry, buddy. That's all right. I just want to take a moment. Pause that and apologize to you. She's got those puffy 80s, 90s, um, heartthrob cheeks. Yeah, she should do. If they start showing, you just hit the deck and stay there.

I just want to be at this bar. Look at that bar. I mean, we could find one like it, I think. Well, there's the Ernest Hemingway bar in the Keys, which is really fun. It's kind of like this. But there's no sexy dancing girls. La Seigneurita Bouvier.

Don't I know you from somewhere? No. Oh, yes, I do. Vince Vaughn. Benicio Deltoros doing his Vince Vaughn impression. I got a job for you. Why don't we go outside and we talk in private? Take your hands off her.

She's with me. Nobody's asking you, Geringo. He's with me. Keep your hands on the table. Oh, he likes it. He likes him. She puts that gun in between his voice. Here are her shorts, Matt.

Oh, my God. So you can see her shorts. Three dollars and fifty cents for two buds with a line. This is just straight up loin shorts. Okay, now, this is happening. No one in Roadhouse's reacting. No, it's a Roadhouse far. It's a roadhouse car.

She was. Yeah, yeah. Every night. She just steps over him. Now, my favorite part of this film, this whole situation, a shotgun's gone off. The guy gets hit by a fish. knife comes out

lady in the background still just dancing yeah she doesn't stop dancing until like someone puts a gun this is my favorite part there she goes she's concerned but she's still dancing when she shoots the gun and the hole and the hole in the wall is the best thing in the world

yeah yeah it's like straight out of Star Wars how about when the guy picks up that big fish and tries to fight James with it so right now what's happening listeners at home is just a just a roadhouse brawl some funny reaction shots from people,

people reacting weirdly to punches. James also gets... There's that big fish. Almost gets, you know, a fish impaled. Whoa, it just misses him. You know what I would have loved if they would have done with this movie is made it a little bit more of like a crockledundee...

Crockel dundee? I would have loved the crockle dundee. Like James Bond and the keys, he doesn't know what to do. He goes to this bar and tries to order a martini and they're like, what is that? They basically should, yeah. This movie feels too American because they were going to shoot like a, I can't remember what.

She just shot a hole in the wall. It's a perfect circle, a big old circle. There was a reason they put this in America in Mexico and it had something to do with like tax shelters or something like that. I can't remember what it was, but, oh, because they shot a bunch of this in a Mexican studio, I think. Yes. It was mostly shot in Mexico City, this movie. Yeah. And it just doesn't feel it.

somehow doesn't feel very bondian. I don't know what it is. Well, you know, that's because this movie doesn't feel very bonding as a whole. Yeah. Because it's very much a movie from the 80s.

I don't like how, and this is where me and Ali and Georgia may disagree, but I don't like how he's monogamous in this. He's not. Well, I mean, that other girl's throwing himself,

herself on him. This, like, I don't like, first of all, okay, can I get into this relationship real quick? Please. And Amanda, maybe you have some things to add to this. I have something to say about this too. I have, I'll have something to say.

So we meet this woman in this bar and she's apparently works with him. And then all of a sudden they're in love with each other. I agree. They sleep together too quickly. Like you need some of that tension. Well, there's that one scene on the boat where they're trying. Okay, what later is mastered with the Vespa. Vesper.

Vesper. Daniel Craig's scene on the, what I learned is a train. on a plane. Like that. Amanda, they show you it's a train. Okay, in a well. That's more. Listen to me.

Listen to me. I always thought that was weird. But so they try to have a little bit of back and forth of their challenging each other on that boat. And then she kisses him out of nowhere. I thought that too. It was like she was, she didn't earn. She didn't earn.

She didn't earn that kiss. No, well, she didn't earn the ability. to be like Vesper was where it was like matched with Bond. You know what I mean? In a Bond film, Bond is always going to be like one step ahead of the woman because that's just what it is. And when Vesper kind of matches them, you're like,

oh my God, this is the best. This woman, it was like, cool it, girl. Like, you don't get to like talk back. Yeah, especially, yeah, she's so standoffish and then suddenly she just switches like that. That always happens with these early Bond girl characters. They start strong

and then they just give it. This is not early. This is no longer an early Bond girl character. We are now, this is... This isn't the first half of Bond movies. Is it? This is number nine? No, it's... No. No.

No. This is like number... This is like 12, right? You guys keep talking, I'll figure it out. All right. I just didn't understand their relationship at all. I just always find that to be a problem in James Bond movies as a whole is just the... It's either Bond or it's either the girl.

but one of them makes the move too early for reality. Yeah, but there was never any sexual tension between them at all. Well, there's a little bit when he first sees her. There's like a weird moment when she walks out of that guy's office. You know what it reminded me of? It reminded me. 16 in? Yeah.

Yeah. So fuck you. Well, that seems a bit harsh. Oh, I'm sorry, man. I take that back. It reminded me of in a Quantum of Solace, the Gemma, what's her name? Yeah. Strawberry Fields.

Yeah. They reminded me of that. was kind of just like, I wasn't having what she was bringing, and there was no sexual chemistry between them. Yeah, especially in this one where he, like, and then she, she ices him. She, like, kisses him, and then once they get to the hotel and she gets her makeover, she icees him again

and, like, doesn't want to sleep in the same room. Because she doesn't want to be a secretary. Oh, yeah, and then, oh, my God, I love when he, she's like, why can't you be my secretary? And he does the best acting of the whole movie, which is this hearty laugh that is so guttural and, like, authentic. You silly woman It's just the heartiest laugh

I never noticed that I want to see that Would you like to hear it? Yeah I'd like to see it too Give me a second here While I queue it up But let's continue talking about the weird

Relationship First of all First of all She looks fine With that long hair That she has at the beginning Like what's He's like

Buy something nice for yourself And like honestly The outfit that she gets Is no different than what she's not like great She needs to change her disguise too though Isn't that part of it Well Well, she looks, it's not like before she looks all frumpy.

She looks the same. Right. But I think, well, actually here's why this happened in the movie. Carrie Lowell was known at the time. Huge model was known for her short hair. And when she came in for the movie, they were like, well, let's put you in long hair and then we'll do the reveal of the model you. Oh, I see. So it was like, here she is.

Yeah, but when she walks in and he's like, what? It's like, she looks. The double take he does is worse than the pigeons in Moonraker. But let's listen to this hearty laugh. You can watch it, Matt Gourley. I'm sorry, everybody is a very clip-heavy episode, but I paid $12 on iTunes for this, so we're all going to get our minds with me. Fair enough. A lot of hotel action.

I love the scene. I love whenever James Bond arrives at a hotel. Yeah. He tips them so well, and then he says fresh flowers every morning. I know. And hands him $300. Thank you very much. No, I don't want any.

That's just a little poetry I'm throwing at you. Now, here it is. It's Ms. Kennedy, and why can't you be my executive secretary? Now, hold on a minute. So her name's Bouvier, and then it turns to Kennedy, just like the Bouvier-Kennedys. Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't even think of that. I knew the Bouvier was like a reference to.

what's her Marge Simpson Jackie yeah I didn't know she became Kennedy I didn't even catch that Oh my god A little trivia up for you Thank you everybody

Yeah that guttural laugh was very much Like that was improvised And then he goes on to say it's a man's world We're south of the equator But like you'd be fine with it But he's never the thing in this movie Is he's never like Mean to women or like

He's just like I never get the sense That he's like disrespectful to women in this movie. No, and in living daylight he's like very respectful. It's the only one where he's truly monogamous, right? He's driven. So then when he says something like that,

it's like, well, what do you mean? You seem to be very like comfortable with women being, you know, having... Yeah, I think I mean, I listened to that WonderCon episode and, you know, I think it was a nice button put on the whole evolution from their gold finger to Casino Royale

but at the same time... Also, like... It was a strange choice of Valley to alien the audience a little bit. Allie also didn't finish Coletteette. She only watched a thing. Casino Royale. She only watched Wait, wait, she didn't like Casino Royale?

She only watched an hour of it. Of the Daniel Craig Cassino Royale? Just by virtue of us not having enough time for her to finish the movie. Okay, but did she like the movie? The first hour of it, she did not enjoy now. Well, that seems unnecessary. I love Allie and Georgia.

I think Allie's just just got a bone to pick with this in general. Also, I think she's kind of just playing it up. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, I know she is. Yeah, you can't not like Casino Royale. Yeah, that has to be a lie.

That has to be one of those. That doesn't seem right. The lady doth protest too much that she goes home and watches it every day. We're getting to my favorite part of the movie, which is the halfway point. And that is the introduction of Wayne Newton. That was nuts. That freaked me out. He was doing movies at this time.

He was in Ford Fair Lane where he plays. The villain in the Andrew Dice Clay movie? I think he's the best, his best performances in Vegas vacation, where he plays himself, seducing Mrs. Griswold. Yeah, that's right. But if someone can tell me what the fuck is happening here, they're setting drug prices? Is that what's happening? Yeah, but it's a coded way for their buyers to see what they're selling the drugs as. Yes.

Oh, so no one actually thinks that's a religion. Yeah, I think certain people do, but the whole purpose for it to exist is a front for the drug company. It looks like Jurassic Park. Certain people donate to it. But what this movie goes off the rails from me is obviously when the ninjas come in and like what is going to? Oh, ninjas are coming. Hang on. What is going to go on? But here's Wayne Newton. I'm going to play another clip.

Sorry, everybody. Bless your heart. $22,000. $22,000. $22,000. Bless you. Go to your phone. Please help us.

Bless your hearts. So, okay. Why does this exist? Why is this the way they're setting prices for their drugs? I guarantee you the reason this exists is because Michael G. Wilson, whoever wrote the script was like, what's going on in the world today? Oh, probably that Tammy Faye Baker. Nonsense.

Televangelism. They always just pull from what's happening at the moment. That's one thing that always got a booker. Yeah, like parquet. Yes, or parkour. Everyone's flooring these days is parquet. What's parquet? It's flooring.

It's wood. Oh, you're right. Also, that is very relevant. Parquet. Yeah, that's true. Parquet. So at this point, James has gone rogue, obviously, needs some help. So Moneypenny's going to do them a little favor.

and tip off Q as to where his location is. Let's talk about the new Money Penny. She's great. You like her? I do. Wait, the new one? No, this... She's the hottest one.

This blondie? Wait, who? The Money Penny. The Money Penny. It's always been Lois Maxwell. This is the first new Money Penny ever in the series. And how many does she do?

Just two? Two Dalton's? Yeah. Does anything ever happen with her? Because she doesn't have much to do in this. No, she more than anyone has the least happen, right? Yeah. She's...

She's just normal. She's very sexy. She's very sexy. She's very sexy. As of 1,500 hours today. Who authorizes? I did, sir. I thought you'd be worried about James.

He's gone missing. You know him better than that. She's so lovely. Yeah. He's got to be stopped. I've already alerted our man in this was. I want that out by this afternoon. Yes, sir.

Q Branch, please. I like her husky voice. Yeah. She has Merrill Streep qualities. Yeah. Yeah. She's like motherly. She's very motherly.

Yeah, very, very. Speaking of Q. Let's talk about Desmond Lou Ellen. This is the oddest cue scene there is, that he comes to visit him in the field. Why would they, I mean, I guess he's just doing it out of love for Bond, but he's always hated Bond. Yeah, he's going, he's going by virtue of the fact that he wants to go. So he stole a bunch of stuff. He's going by virtue of the fact that the writers want to write in a cue scene, and this is the only way.

they can do it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, his toys aren't very organized. He just keeps them in that bag all dusty and... Yeah. But it's also like, yes, I mean, it's so funny. Like, every...

Just once I'd like to see them introduce a cute gadget that doesn't get used. Like, oh, I don't need... I don't need this toothpaste explosive. Yeah. But thanks for showing it to me. Never would. And, like, when he uses those light up cigarettes, like, they don't have to look like cigarettes.

I went to the Ronald Reagan library, and there was a whole exhibit on Soviet-era spy tools and everything. And I don't know if that exhibit is that exhibit's a love? I think so. I don't know. And they had a whole bond room, which was a total surprise. That was amazing. But these were real things. Like these were, they had like cameras in anything, like a shoe camera.

Yeah, in a camera. Yeah, a camera and a camera. But just stuff like this really existed. So it's not just all, you know, fiction. But, no, I like that stuff. I love camera in, camera in like bubble gum. Camera and pants. Camera, pants camera.

Camera pants. Pants. Pants. It just shoots up your own pants. 24-hour surveillance up your own pants. Oh, we skipped over my favorite line, which is delivered by an extra who says, This guy at table two is playing like a real jerk off Oh yeah, that's right

The guy to plays the president of Itt'sma City Yeah Is the son of Karam from Russia with love Yes Interesting From Russia So Getting on

Here's Q You all right Yes of course I'm all right How'd you find me Well money penny of course You've wanted sick about you This is no place for you Q Go home

Oh don't be an idiot double An idiot. I know exactly what you're up to. And quite frankly, you're going to need my help. Remember, if it hadn't been for Q branch, you'd have been dead long ago. True, true, very true. For a man on holiday. Explosive alarm clock.

He doesn't wake up anybody who used it. That's true. That's true. It's the latest in plastic explosive. I also don't like how she comes in and just like ruins everything. She's like, what's this? It's like, don't talk. Touch it.

Yeah, that is a ridiculous comedy scene. Yeah, that didn't seem like she would actually have done that. Like, she's trying, she knows these are gadgets, and she's going to actually try to take a picture of someone. Yeah. And why is she taking a picture? Why is she all fun all of a sudden wanting to, like, be wacky and take photos? Also, I really do like the stupid Polaroid they show of the skeletons. Yeah.

But also, isn't the general a skeleton? No, I had to, I went back just to get angry at it. I went back, and I was like, I don't know it was not. Why don't I remember it that way? Well, because it might as well have been. It might as well have been. So Q sends him, gives him a bunch of gadgets. Then James' plan is I'm going to go repel in, plant plastic explosives on this window, blow the window out.

Any scene where he turns a lapel of his tucks over to a black costume and does some spy work? There's nothing wrong with that. Oh, it's good. There's nothing wrong with that. But here's the problem with this scene. We are minutes away from a ninja. That's another 80s trope that they're just cramming in there because it's popular. Yeah, three ninjas.

Yep, three ninjas high-New Mega Mountain, of course. American Ninja, one, two, and three, and probably more. I just want to just, let's listen to the cute. Bond already did ninjas. When? You only live twice. You only live twice. That's one of my, that's my favorite.

Nancy Sinatra. Do you think Robert Dobby ever sings Nancy Sinatra? at it. He should. Dobby does Nancy, Sinatra? Well, you should sing from Russia with Love because Sinatra did that. I wonder if he does. Remember.

He doesn't do the... Snatra covered from Rushwood Love? Yeah, the radio hit was Sinatra. Oh, I didn't realize. I did not realize I thought it was still Matt. Matt, whatever the hell of his name is. Is you only live twice a good movie? I like it.

It's not my favorite of the Conneries, but a lot of people really love it. It's like the biggest one. So now he's seen Pambuvier over there, hence that musical sting. And he's just about to knock off this guy. But then we're going to have a ninja situation happen very shortly. This just gets strangely violent where they shoot the girl in the chest. The guy that plays that other MI6 guy, the smoking ball, He wins the British up.

He's so great. He absolutely wins the British off. I was worried going into this movie. I was like, who's going to win? Who's going to win this British office? I'm going to have to give it to M? No. No.

This guy comes in and changes everything. He's wonderful. He reminds me of Charles Gray, the Blowfeld from Diamonds of Forever, but he's also in your own. It's like it's his son. It's like it's Charles Gray's son. It's exactly what I thought. Let's listen to the most British man in the movie. Okay.

The Majesty's Government. How did you get it? Off. Who ordered you to kill Sanchez? No one. He's a rogue agent. I've got all of us to take him back one way or the other. We're hardly in a car.

Norkotics, you bastard! It's also the way he looks. I've been setting it up for years. I just hope that little stunt of yours hasn't scared him off. Are we gonna... They always talk about Orientals in this movie. Don't you think it was a little late in the game to still be saying Oriental? Oh, it absolutely was.

Well, I'm just looking on. on the IMDB right now trying to figure out if that Asian woman was both the woman in the dress and the ninja. I don't know she is. That's her. That's the girl I saw. She looks great. Okay. And then there's someone, Osami.

Is that a female name? Yes. Because Osami Kawawa is listed as Oriental. Oh my God. I think she is because they were referring to that group as the Orientals. Yeah, they wouldn't stop referring to that group of Oriental. They also refer to the second

drug-buying group of Asians as or as the Orientals. Well, my question, okay, so this, in this short scene of Bond being held by the Hong Kong Secret Service and the MI6

coming to take him back, there's a lot of exposition or like past exposition. Her reaction to that guy getting killed, she, like, she emotes so much that you're like, oh my God,

there's some crazy relationship there and she has to deal with. The ninja does? The two Asians, yeah. The ninja lady? Yeah. Yeah.

She's really like, oh, my God. And then, like, there's very quickly another scene where she goes over to his dying body and he says, don't let them take you alive. Yeah, did they have a cut scene? It's like, what? I know. What is the story?

What is this movie I'm now in? Yeah. I know. Although I did really, really like that part where she fights and she gets killed and then he snaps that cyanide pill and he dies so nobly. Well, he does. Don't let them take you alive. Yeah, he's not going to. Can you get cyanide on your hands and be okay?

Because it gets on Heller's hands. I think so. Oh, you're kidding me. Watch them real good with warm water, maybe. I could have streamed this movie on Amazon Prime for nothing. It's on HBO Go for free. Yeah, well, I bought it, guys. I bought it.

I now own three copies of this movie. Wow. I want to find out that guy's name and see if he's related to... Who, the Charles Gray? Yeah. Spawn. Matt, you dry for a second. All right.

So from here on out, now Sanchez thinks Bond's really legit because he's tied up at the at the place where his enemies had him. Yeah, here's where I got confused. Okay, so Sanchez Sanchez brings him to his house. Yeah, because he finds Bond tied up among his enemies and he thinks, oh,

this guy's got to be legit because this is this is MI6, he can't be working for MI6 and all that. So now he's like, I trust this guy totally. It seems like he's trusting him on kind of just a hunch. Well, that too, I think, but this confirms it for him. He's got a good

feeling about him. I love when Bond wakes up on those silky sheets and he sees that weird fish tiger or whatever that. Oh my God. The face room. The room of the face is. And by the way, is the plane at the end, does that plane at the end have a face? Do you know what I mean? The what? The plane at the end that she's driving at the end has a face. It does. I think so. It does. So faces in powder blue are like big memes in this movie. Lots of faces on inanimate objects. Yeah, I love that. The whole decor in there really sings to me. I thought that was really great, those faces. Yeah.

The big sun face. Yeah. Those faces were everywhere. And then in the end when they kiss and that fish face winks. Oh, you're right. Yeah. What was with all the faces? I don't know.

It's a 70s thing. But this is the 80s. This is late 80s, 89. Yeah. Yeah. But it's Kiwaz, so it's a little behind the time. Oh, my God. You're right.

I didn't even notice that that fish was winking at them. Yeah, it's strange. That's so gross. But I love those faces. I love that whole place And I like how after Robert Davy dies They just have a big party At his place

It's not a... Isn't it as a voice? Oh, that's really funny Yeah, well I guess Because I guess that she inherits it Yeah Right? I don't know We haven't talked about her

She's not the strongest actor What is she? What's her deal? I didn't know where she was coming from Former model But I mean in the movie She was just a... She was a girlfriend who somehow

had wronged Davy And she cheated on him But he owned her, it seemed like. Yeah. That's a hell of a scene in the beginning we haven't talked about where they cut out the heart of that guy. They don't show it. But the man she's sleeping with, he comes in and something like, you want his heart. I'll give her his heart.

Yeah, I mean, that was sweet, though. That's nice. She's a strange character because then he, like, whips her, basically, like, spanks her, like, she's a little girl. And then later, she kind of, like, defends him to Bond. She's like, well, I was bad. But then she also. wants to get away from him. So she's just like a...

She's confused. She falls in love with Bonn. She's like one of those female characters who aren't a real, they're not a real person, and they're just like whatever they need someone to say in the moment, like you just give her that line. Those second tier bond, well, most of the first tier bond girls are like that too, but the second tier ones usually are. There are women like that, like the drama.

I guess a girl who's going to go for that kind of guy. Yeah. She didn't like that big iguana. Oh my God. But at the end she wore its bracelet. Oh, yeah. it was diamonds. And she put her hand on the counter

so weird. She was like, well, like, don't you know, Aguana's are a girl's best friend? And she just laid her hand. It's like, it was obviously a direction. Do you see what I did? I made a joke like that.

Here, look. But iguanas are a girl's special friend. Guys, I was not aware of that. Thank you for telling me in on that. No relation. Christopher Neem is his name. Okay. So,

he just died. I can't wait to show you guys. He's in Ghostbusters, too, as well. Oh, really? Chris Rame. as the matri d in the restaurant. Did you say he died? No.

No. He's still acting. I thought you said he died suddenly. Like it just came up on your news ticker. Oh, Jesus. Oh, God. He just died. Weird coincidence.

All right. Also, can we just talk about when they get to his house? And then she goes up on that little motorized thing up to the top of the hill. Oh, my God. Like, that's pure luxury. That's something only rich people would have.

But it's so slow. You can't even get. Oh, my God. It's so. I have one more thing just going back to the short-haired bond girl. When she's in that sparkly dress, this is just a note I just remembered, and she rips her dress off to take out her gun.

Oh, that's right. Like, that doesn't make any sense. That's something that a man would write. And then it's like, any woman would be like, no, you would never do that. She could get it out without ripping her dress off. She had to rip her dress off. Yeah. It's like in the books when you told me when in Casino Royale, when they kidnapped Vesper

and tie her dress above her head. Yeah. Like, that's something a man would write someone who's never worn a dress because that doesn't make sense. Why doesn't that make sense? Because you take your dress. That's how you get a dress off. So it's not like you tie it over your head

and you just pull it off. That'd be like me just tying up your Not if you can't get your arms out. There aren't some dresses that, that, well, maybe it was a skirt. I don't know, I'd have to reread the passage. A skirt would make more sense. Well, I mean, unless they don't go under the arms.

But you know what? I mean, when I think about it, I have to defer to two women before Ian Fleming on anything female. I think it's just like, oh yeah, I got to get my gun out of this dress. I could just take it out. but she rips her dress off is such like a sexy thing.

There's also a lot of garters in this film. Yeah, I got no problem with that. Wait, did he almost get married? Who was he married to before? He was married to Teresa, and this was in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, played by Diana Rigg. Are you watching Game of Thrones? No. She was in The Avengers.

She's great English actress, and they got married, and he was the one woman other than Vesper that he really loved, and then she gets killed by Blofeld. He really did love her. Yeah. But not like he loved Vesper. Vesper. But Vesper was a bitch. Well, Vesper, that movie did it better than On Her Majesty's Secret Service,

but I think in the books it was the big one. He's just ready to go. He's just ready to go get married and not ever see another woman again. I would hope like... As soon as he meets Teresa. In one or two movies after this next one, they would do a similar on Her Majesty's Secret Service with Daniel Craig where he finds the woman he loves.

I would love to play that woman. I'm just putting that out there, that Maria Blasushi would be like totally down. Hell, I'd play that woman. We'd all play that woman. Okay, jumping back to the face house. Face house. And then on that contra-that elevator.

That elevator is so funny. Elevator's real. It's a funicular. The house belongs to some Mexican billionaire. Yeah. That was friends with Cubby Broccoli. Susan Summers has one of those things. I saw like a documentary on her and she has her house in Palm Springs is one of those things.

That's crazy. They have those a lot in San Francisco. Do they? Yeah. It moves so slow. You do? You have nothing to do. My grandma had one of those things, but that's because she couldn't walk up her stairs. No, that's not.

Wait, is it? Also, her grandma is the... No, not that grandma. But her other grandma and her husband invented the Zamboni. That's not quite accurate. What? That's what you told me. No, my step grandma's, like, great uncle or grandpa invented the Zamboony. But you're still milking out that...

So there's no Zamboony. You have no Zamboni blood. I got no... Zamboni blood, but some of my family does. Joan Zamboni. Good side step. All right. So now they move on and they decide to

frame Milton Crest to make him look like that. Who's Milton Crest? He's Anthony Zerby, the one that gets his head inflated. Oh, not quite. Well, yes, but now here's the angry scene where he Oh, you know what he does in this scene? He does the bond grab, which is the arm, the upper arm

grab, which I love. Like just in real life When Bond grabs a girl by the upper arm Like he does that to Vesper and Casino Royal Like listen to me I go like that Yeah You need someone to do that to you

Yeah You and Ali are the polar opposites It's very interesting But Maria's screwed up No We all are I think I just like I know what I like

No but I don't want like a guy to do that I just like that power that he shows When he grabs your upper arm My dad used to do that to me Oh, well, there it is. Clearly. No, no, no. When I was like, when I was like having a tantrum or something, like to bring me, like, down the stairs.

You know, we all want to date our parents. Oh, yeah, I did. You dated your parents? How many parents did you do my mom? I'm more like your dad. How do you mean? I don't know. Let's figure this out.

Let's figure this out. We love to tell stories. My dad, he will linger on, especially if it involves directions and getting somewhere. Oh, yeah? He just loves to tell you how to get somewhere. Should we have your dad on? Oh, we should? Just because he's the reason I got into Bond movies.

It's every dad on. And you, it was your mom or your sister? My sister's liked it, but it was really Tom Hanks. So we should have Tom Hanks on. Why would it Tom do? I heard it was on Oprah once when I was a kid, like, I want to say it was like 92. So I was like nine. And she was like, what do you like to do when you're relaxing?

And he's like, honestly, I just like to drink a root beer float and watch a James Bond movie. Okay, Tommy. Wow. And I was like. Tommy boy. Tommy boy over there. Tom. Tom, you're the best.

Don't you want to be best friends with him? Yeah, sure. He's everyone's best friends. He's been on the nerdist twice. I bet I could probably squeeze that out. Well, why haven't you then? Whoa, Matt. Gourley, why are you so angry at me?

We're sitting on a gold line. Then why haven't you there? Get him on. I bet you probably could because he loves Bond. Yeah. Do it. I mean, we're going to have Colin on first. Have them both on.

All right. That's coming up. Yeah, that is coming up. Everything's coming up. I know, but in the rate, we're doing these. Yeah. Guys, we want to do them all the time. We just can't. It just doesn't. It just, our schedules suck. It really, our schedules really took a dick turn. Yeah. It really just, we all started working. That was the problem. But we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna see these through. You can better believe it. You're gonna, because up next is man with a golden gun. Followed by, by the time we get to it probably bond 24. You're not kidding. I know. I mean, it may be perfect timing. We've decided by the way that we're going to England, correct? Yeah, you up for that? Yeah. We're gonna go to England for Bond 24. Yeah. You're gonna get to the

Yeah. Oh, we'll try to get invitations to the premiere, but it's probably not going to happen, but, oh, I could probably get press badges. We can get press badges. All right, get on this, get on Tom Hanks. Yeah. And what are you going to do, Matt? I'm on sit there sometimes and just watch a television. Watch a movie with a rupee flow. That's your Tom Hanks impression? No. No, if you're listening, Tom, it's not. This is my Tom Hanks impression. Our life is like I'd like to go on in James Bonding. No, no, no, no. Me, Captain, now. No, no, no, no. That was the other guy.

Here's mine. Earn this. Here's mine. Hi, I'm Tom Hanks. Here's mine. Really sucks to have AIDS here in Philadelphia. Streets of Philadelphia. All right.

No game. I captain now. Look at me. Look at me. I'm the captain now. Sure. I'm the captain now. Sure.

Look at me. There's no crying with baseballs. You call him Dr. Jones, dog. Okay, back to back to reality. Well, here's some reality for you. He's behind the plane. jumps on it. No, no.

He was well, yeah, he threw the pilot out and fruit. Both these guys are good. Are you listening to have me? Like a little bird. Those Spanish guitar accents are really I don't, they don't work for me. If they could follow me around my life,

I'd be very happy. I would be like ecstatic. Are they in Mexico's city or like they're in a fictional city called it'smas but when they say isthmus it sounds like they're going like yeah i'll meet you in isthmus like they don't know what they're saying yeah i'll meet you in is right is that what it is script supervisor yeah i'll meet you in um uh ismns where in isthm no i'm not hearing we're going to that restaurant in ismmus All right, so, Davy, can we skip ahead a bit? We are...

Plot-wise, it doesn't really matter, right? I mean, this plot gets ridiculously complicated. Yeah, it does. Especially once they start introducing, at the end of the movie, they introduce the plan. Like, this villain... Okay, here's one of my big problems with this movie. This villain is not set on world domination.

This villain... Yeah, is he one of the first? This villain doesn't give a shit, about anything except loyalty he's just asking if you're a little more loyalty I kind of like it because I think they were saying like we can't do world domination anymore but like what is it?

A living day life wasn't. So the American Pam is going after him because he might have two Stinger missiles and he wants to take down an airline Right. Great. James is going after him just because he heard his buddy. Yeah. No one is going after

him except well I guess Hong Kong is going after him because he can turn cocaine into gasoline. And back. And back. Sure. So everybody has a different agenda on this guy. No one has the same agenda. Yeah.

That's bothersome. Yeah. Yeah, it's all over the place a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So they frame Milton Crest by putting the money in his boat. Yes.

Sanchise think that he's in on this. Then they... By the way, last night I spent a good bit of time on Etsy looking for someone who would make a Watercrest crew t-shirt, and they haven't. So if someone wants to make them... that I'll buy it. But this also marks the second villain that's just that they had to make a balloon likeness of to blow up. Yes.

That's two. Yeah. I don't think any franchise has ever done that before. He's ever managed to get the two blown up, both with the same Felix lighter in them. Right. That's the common thread. Interesting. In live and let die, they shoot the villain with a shark pellet gun that inflates him and his whole body turns into a balloon and raises up in the air and then pops.

That's the way to go. It looks ridiculous. you had dinner with him Cananga? I would I would I love him he did a master class

at my college when I was there but I missed it all right so they blow up his head through pressure differentiation yeah

pretty gross yeah yeah it's effective but also weirdly comical and also crazy like if that ever happens

in real life which has happened a couple times but there's no way a head would do like would hold that long there was a guys

and you can read about it if you really want to bump yourself out If you, on an oil rig, something that exact sort of accident happened, but accidentally the valve wasn't turned. So the six guys just blew up. Oh, my God. What's crazy about that effect, though, is that it still manages to look a lot like Anthony Zerby, even as it's inflating.

Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like Roger Rabbit. They had to take a whole, they had to take a whole bunch out of it, like some frames out of it to make it okay for PG-13. Oh, that was nasty. So Bond is on the boat Planting the money to make it look like Admiral Doherty That's what I'm going to call him

He's Admiral Doherty in Star Trek Insurrection Is Irby? Yeah, he's a bad guy in that All right So now There's that face room I love this face room I didn't know what you were talking about

The face room but now I'm seeing It's his little faces on everything And Sanchez's guys I love the color scheme Just white and some burnt orange Face over here Face over here, face there. No, those are people.

But watch. There's a face on a fish. There's a cobra lamp. Did you see the cobra lamp? This room is a dream. Like, there's that face sun. Those are cobra lamps. There's a face.

Snake. But then he turns around. There's another face, fish face. That's the creepiest fucking... I love it. That's like a Salvador dolly thing. I love her silk pajamas, too. There's a face on the art.

There's a on the... Face? Face? Yeah. I hate how nonchalant this woman is. Like, she doesn't care that she's going to get him in trouble. She doesn't give a shit. She's just tired of being there.

Yeah, she's real reckless. She's just tired. So, okay, now you say the airplane has a face is what you're saying. Yeah, but you've got to wait until it starts flying. And then you'll see the face? Yeah. Okay. Is there a chance that maybe you've just watched planes too many times?

No, I'm telling you guys. I was like, that's one of his planes because there's a face on it. Is it one of his planes? No, because doesn't she get someone? gets a crop duster's plane. She has to, she's, her plane is commandeered by Sanchez's men and she has to get That's the plane. That's right. But the crop duster and Robert

Davy must be cousins. Yeah, they're from the face family. They're from the same face family. Sanchez is Spanish for face. So they go to this Mexican culture Ample Theater, which is a real place in Mexico. Oh, yeah, it's outside of any city or anything

like that. The cult, the way the cult is. If you haven't already watched this movie, this is amazing. So watch when the helicopter is landing at that place, and the big hatch opens up. That's a foreground miniature. So that hatch doesn't really exist, and they just put it right there in front of the camera and open it up. It's amazing. They did a really good job. There are those Orientals.

And this guy, the Truman Cabot, Jimmy. Truman Lodge. I used to do comedy sports with this guy. He's cool. He looks like a cool guy. He's Jimmy in Seinfeld. Yeah. Jimmy jumps when he's got the jumping shoes.

Jimmy's going to always refers to himself in the third person, and he makes George try the shoes on that make you jump higher. I didn't watch all that much signs out. Yeah, it creeped us out. Because of the colors. The colors creeped you guys out? Yeah. And the clothes they wore.

I would say that's fair, but that's not that fair, guys. I mean, I'd give it a second chance. It's a cool location. Yeah, it is a cool location, but, like, Robert Duffy on the commentary track was like saying like he's like try to remember the story behind that place I guess like the president of the president of Mexico

his brother was in concrete construction so he had this thing built oh my god the Bond movies do do a good job these days of still putting in villains layers without it being that a villain built this layer you know like like the island in Skyfall and the cool hotel

in Quantum of Salas this oh yeah yeah I like how they just have those little masks to save them from not getting. That's very oriental. From not getting super fucked. It is. It's very oriental.

For the record, there's no face on that plane. Yeah. Why? I was just looking at it. No, no, no, no. You haven't seen it. You haven't seen it.

You've got the front of the propeller and the air intake. Don't even think about it until I show you guys later. Okay, okay. It's like this. Honestly. Honestly. Honestly. Honestly, I don't know what I saw, but it was a face.

It was a happy. She was looking in a mirror. I was going like. The TV was off and she just saw her own reflection. Just at night. You can close your eyes. That's a face in there. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy. Okay, so what happens next? She sneaks in, right? She sneaks in with a bag of cash to give it to Wayne Newton. Wayne Newton tries to sleep with her. She's the worst, like, like, agent trying to be an actress. You know what I mean? She's like, oh, I just need to get in there.

And they're like, okay. Well, she shows that money. But, yeah, in her basket. And then that choreographed scene when she walked. when they go into that like bungalow together. Oh my gosh, she's like twirling. Yeah, she like rolls over on the bed. Oh, it gave me the creeps.

I do like her outfit, though. I liked the no bra. Oh, we all did. Yeah, we're all big fans of that. Why not be comfortable in the field? That's not comfortable, though. That's the thing. I just did like how they had choreographed that scene so much

that I'd like imagine them in rehearsals. And it's like, and then I'll roll off the bed. I imagine Wayne Newton going, I need to rehearse this with this lady at least seven times. Can we have the soundproof jam? She was talking about that he, whenever he would come to set, he would come like impeccably dressed in either all black with a white belt and white shoes or all black, all white with a black belt and black loafers. And like, look, his hair would be perfect. Oh, if we have Jeff Davis on.

And then he would go into hair and makeup. Oh, my God. If we have Jeff Davis on, he went to Wayne Newton's ranch and hung out with him. We'll have to have him tell that story. Just like the Forrest Gump of our lives. Like, he's been so many, he's got so many weirds. Anyway, let's continue. So, everybody's here at this prayer palace.

That's what I'll call it, the prayer palace. And Gorley's had enough. James is there, but James is worried that Benicio de Toro is going to see him because Benicia de Toro knows that James is James and not a bad guy. They've somehow managed to avoid each other this entire time. somehow Sanchez's right-hand man has not been around Sanchez every time James Bond has been around Sanchez.

Yeah. So that's a fun plot thing. I like it. I'm glad you do. So then, but doesn't Bond also convince Sanchez that Heller has the Stinger missiles and it's like a triple double, it's like a triple quadruple double cross thing?

Yes. So he just convinces it Sanchez that everybody's against him Yeah Yeah he plays all his men against each other When he's like only one Hmm I was just saying Oh yeah

18% mixture of cocaine and gas Just keep going Ammonium So this is a different group of Asian people Yeah But before he didn't want to take them on a tour Of the factory He was like

No I don't want to take you on a tour of the factory, but then he agreed to, but then they were CIA. One of them was. But now he's just taking... Oh, only one of them was? Right, only the one guy? No, all those ninjas. Well, those were just his army.

It very recently occurred to me that it doesn't matter. Yeah, this is so convoluted. This is three different movies in one. Okay. Honeymoon. How does you say it? We gave him a nice honeymoon. But way to take a line and run with.

I applaud that. I wonder if he did that in rehearsal or if that was like... I have heard stories on usual suspects. They basically wrote that character for him because he's so crazy with his lines. And he just... There's a point where he couldn't work in movies because everybody's like, I don't know what you're saying half the time. Because he kept trying to say it's miss.

He's the only one that could, ironically. His death is pretty gruesome. Oh. But he said at Oros that? Yeah. just getting ground up like cocaine? Oh, yeah. But here's my problem with that scene.

Is James Bond can't get out of just his hands being tied? Like his hands were just tied. Like, get out of them. You're James Bond. That's a really good point. I don't know. I think this one was... See, that's the problem with this movie.

There are times when it asks you to take it really realistically. And then that's semi-truck does a wheelie. Yeah, like, why wouldn't he have a watch on? Why wouldn't he have a field watch that has lasers and cutters in it? His hands were tied with like a rope or like rubber. It was rubber. And he could not get out. And he was like grabbing at things like get it together.

Yeah, that was pitiful. And then when he kept kicking his hand over and over again. Oh, by the way, when they get into this golf cart and everyone can't catch up with them, like they're going really fast on this golf cart. That was nuts. Is it? Like it's a golf cart. Bless your heart. It's a golf cart, and they can't keep up with the golf cart because it's going too fast.

Okay, do you see the face on the plane? No. Just hold on. This is going to be another thing where you're going to get people on Twitter going, I saw the face and it's a litmus test for sanity. We got all these explosions going on. Yeah, it looks great. Yeah, okay.

I thought that was one of his planes because it was a face on a plane. That does have a plane. That does have a face. I know. No, it's not a stretch. That looks exactly like the face is. in his remember you

tried for at least 15 minutes to convince us it was in a well but it could be as the thing but this look at that face

all right yeah this is a great ending action sequence Amanda look it's got its little tongue out and everything that's sick

so the tankers are driving away with the shit tons of cocaine let's talk about this action sequence this is probably the most

Spielbergian segment of a bond film because everything's cause and effect Like one thing gets detached and it shows up later. Yeah. And it reminds me of like the Raiders truck chase a little bit.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the Last Crusade truck chase. The tank truck chase. I didn't like this chase because everything was going so slow. Oh, really? What do you mean? Like... I wonder if that is like a generational thing

because I still look at this through 16-year-old eyes in some ways, you know. I like it because I can follow it. Yeah, that's what I mean. Well, a lot of times I don't know what's going on in action sequences. Yeah, they get away with too much. action sequences almost on purpose. And there's also no music in this action sequence at all. There's a couple stings, but that's it.

They should have had maybe a Spanish guitar come in at some point after someone did something cool. And then when he goes up on the, when his truck goes up on like the back wheels, that was nuts. But one thing we haven't talked about, too, is so he double crosses Heller. Yes. And then Sanchez has Heller killed, but we only see the aftermath. What circumstance allowed him to be impaled by a forklift? And how was that the most? This place is blowing up.

He ran into a dead end. Yeah. This place is blowing up and they have to get out of there and they have the time to stab a guy with a forklift. Yeah, wouldn't you? Also, that's a rough wig on Heller. Wigdar. Oh, the ringdars going on.

Yeah. So, okay, take your chase. This family is just driving along. They're having a good time. They've got a dog right there. They've got pineapples in the back. And then here's my favorite acting right there. and then when the pineapple goes flying

you're like what movie am I watching what? I know the dog when he pops the wheelie though that's too much See look how slow everyone's moving Like no one cares Well at this point I think they think that James has been taken care of right

Yeah or they're going to What? I like this And when that flaming Jeep flies off the cliff Over the plane It's a great shot John Dillen explain that You think you're going to get, the plane's going to get hit.

Yeah. He was like, you know what's funny? Everyone's seen a plane go over a car. We put a car over a plane. That's his approach to directing. And that's why this was the last movie he did. So they're going to waste these. They have two Stinger missiles that they're supposedly using for this massive, crazy plan of destroying an airliner.

These stunts are crazy. So what they do is they waste them trying to. to kill James Bond. Yeah. Yeah. They waste them trying to shoot the biggest trucks on the road.

Yeah. It's pretty fucking ridiculous. Now, it's not like... Okay, this doesn't make sense to me. Watch this. They're shooting a sting your missile. They go to line it up. He lines up his gun and he's like, I got him.

I got him. So now he should pull the trigger right then, right? Because he just had him. Now, 15 seconds goes by and then he shoots it when he sees that it's already tipped over. He should have shot... They should have shown him

pull the trigger. before it tipped over. Am I wrong? Well, I think there's some willing suspension of disbelief. You've got to give this. I don't want to suspend anyone's disbelief in this movie. That guy's actually driving that tanker on one side of its wheels. That's incredible.

The wheelie is what I have an issue with. That's amazing. And they crush the car. We're all just watching the actual sequence. Yeah, we'll wrap us. Because I've got a couple other things I've got to talk about after this movie. Great. So, you know, it just ends in a machete film.

Fist fight fire catch and move. Let's talk about the big controversial thing that you may not know about this. So on the set, someone took a picture of the big explosion at the end where Robert Davy gets burnt up and the explosion of that tanker. And so all the people and the crew saw this film, this photo, and there's a fiery hand coming out of the explosion. And some superstitious people thought that was like, these mountains were supposedly cursed where a bunch of people died and haunted. And that was the devil coming out of there. show you a picture what I mean. It's ridiculous because you can't see it in the film. You can only see it in the photo. Go ahead, Maddenol. Yeah. But that end explosion, by the way, is one of my

favorite end explosions in movie history because it makes sense for there to be that much flame and that much smoke because it's blowing up gasoline. That's the only time you ever see flames is gasoline. And that's what they do with most movie explosions is they just blow up gasoline containers. Well, that's a devil fire hand. That's crazy. Even John Glenn seems to be like somehow. Yeah, no, that's devil fire. But it's clearly just fumes of gasoline spraying out.

No, no, no, but it's a devil fire. There goes the flaming car over the plane. Good job, everybody. That's a cut. We're going to take that. Faceplane going? Faceplane. That faceplane's so cute.

It is a pretty adorable faceplane. I'm looking forward to talking about the end party. As soon as this thing finishes up here. I just want to watch this explosion. You ask me to. Is that the end credit song? Yeah. Okay, that was real weird.

When the end credits come up, that was the creepiest part of the whole movie. Because the fish is blinking? The fish blinks? No, no, no. Just the credits over like the city, and it was like that weird 80s. Yeah. It doesn't feel like a Bond movie. Yeah, it wasn't Bond movie.

There's this era of Bond movies into the Brosnan's where they, over the credits, they play some weird love song that just doesn't seem to fit. See, I don't like the end with these two These two words all of a sudden like this romantic There's nothing has happened Also, he just kissed that other lady And then he jumps into the pool and she's crying And then all of a sudden she laughs

Like, oh, thank God This is the weirdest You guys, this is the weirdest John Glenn's last shot of all the movies he ever made Was a pool of a winking at you But I don't mind that No, I like the fish That's the best part of the whole movie

Anything with a face on it I'm fine with, like a room with faces. That's all I need. This song, I forgot this song, Cameron J's Bond movie. This song is such a good. I love this song. This song's very weird.

It's hypnotizing. It makes me mad. It depresses me. It tires me out. This is like a Don Henley emotional black voice. And then look at the city behind the credits. It's so gross. There's nothing bond about this.

This just reminds me of Magic 106.7 back home. It's a station that played all the soft hits. Like a movie like Manichin, this should play at the end when they fell in love or something. This song doesn't suck. It's a good song. It's one of the best songs ever made. Bold statement. Well, that's it for license to kill, right?

Oh, my God. So we do have something newsworthy that we need to talk about. What's happening? Pierce Brosnan was interviewed. Oh, God. Here we go. And he said himself that he didn't think he was very good at Bond. Oh, poor guy.

That's sad. endears me to him even more. So I'm going to defend Pierce Brosnan right now. Okay. This is quite a turn. But if we're doing nothing on this podcast, if not learning something about ourselves. Yeah.

I think he, yeah, maybe he recognizes that's a tough role to play and he didn't do his best. And I want to apologize and say, I think he's a great guy. And I agree with them. Wait, this is what you've always said, though.

I know. You're not changing anything. You just, you're just, you just, he just wants to put it out there again. I just do. I appreciate that. I don't know. I think maybe what I'm appreciating is that those movies were difficult vehicles for him to do his best work.

I didn't mind him. I mean, that was, he's our Timothy Dalton. He is. Yeah, Roger Moore for me, probably. Oh, well, yeah, because like that's, I grew up watching him as Bond. And I, what I'm saying is he was probably forced into a lot of those things that would not have necessarily been his choice. Maybe he was playing more what he thought Bond should be rather than making it his own bond. Well, I also think that his scripts were.

not the strongest scripts on the planet. They were no license to kill. A lot of tonal. Oh, that's an interesting point. Let's bring that back. Where do we land on this? Where do we land on license to kill? It was weird.

It gave me the creeps. Yeah, it's a very creepy, creepy film. It didn't feel like a Bond movie. So for you two, I'm going to say one out of ten, you give Casino Royale in 11. Yeah. Like 100. Maybe 100. Yeah.

This one out of 10, what's our going rate? Well, I don't know exactly. Like, I don't know. you're saying in response No, let's just take it as a movie It was a movie It was like a bad action movie Is what it felt like

It felt like a B movie Okay Yeah I give it like a three Maybe a four if we're counting that face room In the family We are kind of a face room I'd say a four and a half

Because I love the Key West setting I loved some of the clothing I like that polka dot dress That the woman wore and the yellow high-neck dress at the brooch that the woman wore. And then I like some of like, you know, I thought Robert Dovey was really good

and I like the shark element, so... Four and a half for me. The trapdoor shark element was pretty good. I'm a subjective 7.5 on nostalgia. Objective... Light four. You're counting the face room? On both, yeah.

Yeah. I just really have a fondness for this one because of the summer that it came out. but objectively it's obviously not a great bond. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to give it a three total as one to ten on bond movies. But if you break this movie into pieces and take pieces of this movie, certain pieces of this movie, achieve eights. Yeah, well, even the worst bond movies have some great animals.

Here's the problem I have with it. I really want to give it credit for going very fleming on certain things. But then it goes so much the other way that it almost is worse. where I'd rather have it just go all kind of camp like a Roger Moore. Yeah. I think that, this one in the Brazen films, they all suffer from that. I really look forward to the time we're going to get to spend with Roger Moore. Me too.

You guys are spending time with Roger Moore? Oh, God, I wish. No, just the movies. Discussing. I mean, we're never going to get to spend time. Well, we've only got one other non-Rogromar left, and that's Living Daylights, which is a good one. And then it's all more all the time. Yeah.

We should all take a trip to Isthmus. To what? To Isthmur. doesn't really sound like you're committed to knowing where we're going. I know exactly where we're going. Just type, get your computer out and type in Isma. Well, how do you spell it? Wait, what do you spell?

You just trailed up? You just spell it. Ismonds. Like, are you saying Christmas? Are you saying... It's in Mexico, guys. It's I-Smith. Yeah.

Mexico? Yeah. You got it. I typed in Ice-Smith and I'm getting nothing. That's because you don't have any, you don't have any connection. I'm getting nothing. I have a couple of emails I need to read. Indian Society of My,

mass spectromity? No. That's why I typed in. Indian Society for Mass Spectrometry. Spectromity. Well, I can't even say that. What is this now? Isthmus is not a real city. What did you say?

Isn't you? I just didn't even... All right, what are these emails? Matt. I was having... This is from Derek Meyer. Hey, Derek, what's up? I was having a pretty horrible morning yesterday, so I decided to grab some coffee before my chilly Minnesota commute. As I was listening to you in the car, I did. decided to try a Valencia orange refresher. It tastes like sunrise in a cup, so thanks for that.

What's... Bullshit. That's what Matt claims he orders all the time. Hold on. From Starbucks, the Valencia sunrise refresher. Which is just an orange juice. First of all, this is from Mija Herbernik. First of all... Where does she live? Sounds like she lives in this.

It's a man. Hello from your biggest Slovenian fan. Best podcast currently out there So keep up the word work Thank you me, huh? In addition to expanding my knowledge of James Bond You have also opened up entirely new culinary vistas for me Sincere tip of the hat to Matt for introducing me To the divine mana that is the Valencia orange refresher

Just had my first one three days ago And I will be back for more You will find the proof attached thanks And there's a picture Oh, that looks good It's not on the menu, you're a You are a megalomaniac Also I want you to know

I got my universal remote work out. It's so great. That was the big cliffhanger. The last agenda I have on the list is incredible. So for Easter, we went to my step-uncles, who's this wonderful, wonderful man, Bill Baker, if you're listening, he's so great. And he has this collection of classic cars. And I heard someone saying Bentley, and I went, you have a Bentley? What year?

And he goes, it's a 49 convertible Bentley. I was told there was a card in it when I bought it that Ian Fleming owned it. and so he's been trying to track down proof but he doesn't have the proof but it's an unbelievable Bentley except he gave me the information so if anybody out there has any way to research that or look in that he's contacted the Fleming Foundation but I don't know that he's gone through Bentley it's a 1949 Bentley Mark 6 Park Ward drophead coop and the um identification identification number is B162 FV so if we could somehow find proof that this was Fleming's car.

I would buy every listener of Valencia orange refresher and drive him around in this thing. That's like $50,000 worth of Valencius. Everyone can come over and have a sip of mine. Okay. That's more like it. Yeah, so please do the research for Matt. He's too lazy to do it.

No, I'm not too lazy. I just don't quite know how. Or point me in the right direction. All right, fine. All right. So they're all crowdsourcing for a good cause. Amanda's very very snap judgmenty on

on Instagram like she decides what she likes very quickly I saw a picture of a breakfast sandwich She just scrolls she goes boom I like it She doesn't scroll as she's scrolling Like there's almost no pause between her Instagram scroll and liking

I know what I like Well we did it guys We're finally back It's been a while we apologize Thanks for holding out We'll be back pretty soon I hope Hopefully yeah we should Maybe we should schedule that today

Yeah Thanks so much for having us back guys. This is so much fun. I enjoyed watching the movie. It was really interesting. It was quite an experience. Yeah. I want to, maybe we should get them to watch trying to think of

what a good, another good James Bond movie would be to for that, just so I could hear their opinions on. Like one in the middle, so you've seen a weird one, good one. Yeah. What's like a classic? Goldfinger. Yeah, goldfinger. Let's hear their opinion on goldfinger. Oh yeah, because Allie and Georgia did the other goldfinger. I've never seen it.

You know what? Maybe when we do the live show, we'll bring them up for like a small segment where they review Goldfinger. We just do a recorded version of this because I don't know when the hell a live show is going to happen. Really? Well, we'd like to do a live show. We're really good live.

That's true. Yeah, we have that spark. We have a separate live show with you guys. Yeah, I would love to do a live show. That's not a bad idea. We're on top of a fucking theater. People have been clamming for another Goldfinger revisit too.

We would love to do that. Thank you so much for inviting us. We will definitely be there. Great. See, that's what you got to do, Amanda. When you hear an opportunity, you've got to latch on to it. Grab it by the arm. Yeah, you got to grab it by the top of the arm.

And you've got to say this is happening, make this happen. Yeah. I'm in charge. I'm in charge. I'm in charge. James Bonning will return. The man with a golden gun. Or a mission briefing.

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