James Bonding - Live from SF Sketchfest 2020!

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

James Bonding goes to San Francisco Sketchfest, deep in the heart of A View To A Kill territory. Matt and Matt discuss the latest No Time To Die news and then get on to ranking the titles, just the ti...tles, of the Bond films.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Matt and, Matt and, Matt and, James Bonding podcast. Hello, listeners, this is Matt Goorley. This episode of James Bonding was recorded on the 19th of January, 2020, at San Francisco SketchFest. The audio quality ended up being not very good when we received it, but we put it together, we did a little doctoring, and we got it in decent shape. So, if you hear a little hissing here and there, it could have been a lot worse. Please enjoy. Everybody. Thanks guys for not watching football and joining us today.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Go Niners or something. Well, speaking of San Francisco, we are in the home of A View to a Kill, and I think we should start by celebrating that. I was thinking about this on the way here that... When aren't you thinking about a View to a Kill? That's true. I'd say 90% of the time. And that's not just what I'm doing. I actually schedule that in the day to have 90% of my day.
Starting point is 00:01:09 So like some people meditate, you build in time, in your day to think about view to a kill. Yeah. I was thinking about how Max Zorn fell off the Golden Gate Bridge. This is going to get a little
Starting point is 00:01:21 macabre. But I was watching this morning in the hotel I woke up and put on that. I think it's the Sunday Today show with Jane Polly. I forget. It's the one that's like all human interest stories. And they were interviewing
Starting point is 00:01:32 a guy who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge when he was like 19, but he survived. And it made me think Max Zorin could still be out there. He could walk in here today. Whoa. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:46 What? I'm going to have a sip. Okay. Back. So here's the thing. I think he did survive. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And I think he started Facebook. Yeah. And then he was like, oh, my plan was so terrible where I wanted to destroy all the manufacturing, but none of the manufacturing actually happens here. Usually happens in China. He wanted to destroy the assembly line. Yeah, which was a terrible plan because none of the manufacturing. is actually happening in Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Even if he died, though, you could drag the bay, and I feel like the villain in this new film, who's all into genetics, could clone and have a little army of Zorans. Like three-foot-tall Zorans? Yeah. But fully grown men, but they're three-foot-tall. I figured out cloning, I just
Starting point is 00:02:40 can't make them tall. The point is, how are you guys? I think they're all delighted. Are we all James Bond fans here? Yes. Are you excited about about the new movie or what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:55 We put on the trailer here when we were setting up this video and I just about wet my pants. He did say, hang on, I'm going to start it over because now I want to watch it and we stood right here and watched the screen.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah. Look, I think I'm excited about it. It's weird because it's like this whole thing where I have to, we have to like make peace with Daniel Craig riding off into set sunset. I know. People sign.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I don't think he's going to do. I don't think he's going to die because it's clear from the title. He has no time for it. The movie's a minute long. There's a rumor floating about the current cut is 310. I heard that. Yeah, in fact, let's segue into Bond 25 News. I'm happy to do that.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So here we go, guys. We've gone through multiple directors, multiple screenwriters. Still, we will never be able to do the forensic deep dive on the script to figure out if Purvis and Waiter is terrible as we think they are. Or don't think they are. Or don't think they are. I'm more on the side of maybe they were never the problem. And I have no evidence.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah. But, like, they were mainly the guys who did your least favorites, you know. That's true. Your Pierce Brosnan's. Yeah. May he rest in peace. He's still with us. Do you see him at the Golden Gloves with his full-on KFC beard and mustache?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Look, say what you will about his Bond movies. I love the man and he's an amazing looking fellow. He's probably the most handsome of all bonds, if I had to take an audience of the vote of myself. Yes, he is the most fan. Is he the most handsome of all James Bond? Conventionally handsome, do you think? Okay, there's a smattering of applause.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, I mean, if we're talking like rugged handsome, you've got your Conneries and your Craigs. If you've got your conventionally pretty, it's Brosnan and Moore. And then what do you got your Lays and Bees and Dalton's in the middle? Just to round it out. You got to bridge the gap. the gaps up your L&Bs I think that's where it is in the middle you're LLBs LLBs LLB in guys let's think about it done okay so three hours and 10 minutes I hope they do you think I hope it I hope that's just like do you think there's any possible way it releases anywhere close to that no longest running time right now we have is Cuantu Solis correct no that's the shortest oh I met Cazale right it's the longest two I think two two
Starting point is 00:05:20 Something. The movie that feels like it's two movies and should have been cut in half. I mean, if you're not being generous. I'm not. I love the movie, but it feels very long. This one, I don't want them to wind up cutting so much stuff out of this movie that it feels like Rise of Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Right. Where they rushed two movies into one. Yeah. Where you're watching someone play a video game and they're skipping the cutscenes. I'm sorry. I'm just watching Lady Tin Soldiers right now. On the screen. So, you know, three hours and ten minutes, it's a little worrisome that there is that much script.
Starting point is 00:05:55 But most movies kind of get that version on their first cut, I think. Most of these franchise movies. I mean, if you're throwing everything in, I'm hoping it's like you're two and a half, and then you cut it down to two ten. I don't know why it's specific like that in my head, but that's what I'm hoping it is. Is your problem too much bomb? Maybe. Well, I just don't want it to be, like, plotting, like, boring sort of,
Starting point is 00:06:20 Like, I like shoe leather. I've been watching a lot of 70s espionage crime thrillers, and they are so slow, and I'm just along for the ride. At some point, like, a gunfight will happen, and I'll be like, whoa, slow it down. We don't know enough about these people. If you took a 70s, your standard 70s thriller kind of thing and cut out all the scenes of people walking in and out of doors. Oh, it'd be a commercial. It'd be a four and a half minutes long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It'd be an action-packed commercial. I watched this movie called St. Ives with Charles Bronson, and there's just driving. Just driving, not even in a classic car. I mean, there is that, too, but it's just... Do they keep cutting to the gas gauge? I'm telling you. Like, well, it's on the radio. Let's get a close-up on the upholstery.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah, I just don't... I don't know if a three-and-a-half-hour... Someone was saying something about them cutting it into two, which has never been done, or I'd... You've heard that rumor? I saw it. It doesn't mean I've... I mean, it's just someone tweets something at you,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and then all of a sudden I've heard that rumor. It's true, then. That's how rumors start. That's how news happens in voting now. But, like, I think that the idea of a two-part... What do you think of that? What if they did that? I'd love it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Then we'd get an extra Daniel Craig movie. I mean, I think any time you do split those... The last Harry Potter did that in the Hunger Games, they're not great, right? That's not a great result, probably. Does it feel like just too much padding it out to make it? Yeah, and maybe a little self-important. The greatest example is The Hobbit, which should A not have existed and B, shouldn't have been nine movies.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah. Or a hundred. How many movies was it? It was a hundred. Yeah, it felt like a hundred movies. Yeah. Although if there's a big scene at MI6 where they're all eaten sloppily, I'll watch it, singing a song. I thought you could say that they're all eating sloppy joes.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Wood watch, ten out of ten. Just imagine Ray finds M just pulling a bit. about. First he'd flop his tie over his shoulder. Take his braces off. Oh, that man doesn't need a brace to remind him how to stand up straight. No, his suspenders. No, he's a human back brace. His posture is incredible.
Starting point is 00:08:37 He is like, if that's how you level walls in England, you get Ray Fines to stand in. He's perfectly plumb. I saw someone commenting on the trailer that Ray Fines kind of looked like he had a punch. but, and believe me, I've looked at this shot. Freeze frame it. He does not. His hand is hiding the fact that his, like, back has such a,
Starting point is 00:08:58 he's like a human question mark, but somehow very straight. I have this problem, too. My back really curves in, and it makes me look like I have a gut sometimes, and I do not. I do. I do. I do. Okay, so if it's, I also want to figure out, like,
Starting point is 00:09:15 I'm very excited about Phoebe Waller Bridge doing this last pass. on the script. Yeah. Three people are also excited. I think everybody's probably pretty excited about that. That's a great question. A round of applause. Who's excited about that?
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's truly thrilling to me because, you know, loving what she's making these days and some touch of that coming to the Bond universe, I think, is... Season two of Fleabegg is so fucking good. Yeah. That I just...
Starting point is 00:09:45 I want, you know, what was his name? What was the guy who... I just keep calling him Moriardi? Oh, you mean C, yeah. Like if he somehow survived that fall, uh, well, Zoran did. And then was back in it. And like when he survived the fall, he decided to turn to God and then became a priest.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And then went to World War I. How many bond villains could still be alive? Because Zorn could, uh, Georgi from living daylights could, we never saw him die. Yeah. Um, and I think that, you know, the whole Zorn thing, too, is like, If you do, there's a, like, 8% chance you survive that fall, right? 80%?
Starting point is 00:10:26 8. Oh, 8. Yeah. Yeah, no, definitely, that's science. But he's also, he's also not jumping from the railing. He's falling from the blimp. He's almost double. Which is, like, double the height.
Starting point is 00:10:38 So probably chances go down after there. Well, maybe he somehow, like, the wind swayed him back onto that sweeping pipe, and he just slid down. Grace Jonesfully. Yeah. And then he just hitchhiked to Modesto. I mean, this is all part of my larger theory of the Mrs. Dau-Fire view to a kill-shared universe. And that's a solid theory.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah. I mean, the whole time, I think Bond is, he's undercover as Stu, you know, from Mrs. Dau-Fire. Does the rock factor into that same universe? Well, the rock, of course, does, I think the rock is its own sort of James Bond gold-finger-shared universe. So that's not in the Miss Dau-Fire universe. No. No, you got to specifically. You can only have two shared universe
Starting point is 00:11:21 San Francisco movies at a time. What about Bullet? Bullet is in the Sierra Universe as the Rock, weirdly. Can I speak to you off-stage? The thing about Vito Kill, we were talking about this aggregate
Starting point is 00:11:39 rating that you found online. If you haven't heard, it's not news, but someone aggregated the ranking scores of IMDB for all the bonds. IMDB, Rotten Tomato's critics, rotten tomatoes audience,
Starting point is 00:11:54 and then put the final definitive ranking. Yes. So, according to that ranking, the worst James Bond movie is a view to a kill. Not including 67 Casino Royale. Right. So that's how you know this ranking is false
Starting point is 00:12:12 and we're living in a post-fact reality. Right, yeah. But it's just like, to me, it's like how bad could critics have thought that movie was when it came out. Really bad. But like, is it inherently terrible? Are we clouded by our love of Roger Moore?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Maybe, but it's actually good that we're here because does it color your opinion of the movie that it takes place in many of your hometowns? I mean, I'm assuming most of you live here. Does that give you a special pride for this film? No, I'm thinking a lot of heads shaking. No. If a James Bond movie
Starting point is 00:12:45 took place in Whittier, I'd be all over it. Like, they go to Nixon's old childhood home. Oh man, Bond 26. The people that are shaking your heads, do you like the movie? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But the fact that it takes place doesn't help. Like, for me... But doesn't? You don't like seeing your city hall and the... Apparently not. What's your big bridge called?
Starting point is 00:13:09 What's your big bridge called? Just kidding. The, you know, if there was a way to sort of categorically impartially rate Roger Moore movies, which I cannot divorce myself from my love of the cornyness of more. I can't either. I don't. I don't know where he would stand
Starting point is 00:13:29 in sort of the annals of bond history. I do feel like that objectively, they're not good. But I feel... I think the only people that really... As a group, this is generalizing. Is probably Generation X because he was our bond when we grew up. But are you technically a millennial or a generation? I am technically a millennial according to charts on the internet.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah, but I was, as I've always said, I was born 40, so I'm probably a boomer. But I think people before him that had Connery don't appreciate him probably understandably, and people after him... I mean, look at the way he rises into the credits. It's incredible. Just like... How is he see-through? No animation whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:14:12 They just like, it's like they have a clear slide and they just lifted it in a month into the camera. 100% what it is. Roger, can we get you for the credits? No, do you? But he's so, and he did, let's see, he's done the most movies, he no longer has the longest tenure that now belongs to Daniel Craig.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And I think, you know, had the writer's strike not happened in 2008, I think we would have had at least one more James Bond movie from Daniel Craig than we currently have. Oh, you don't think that even though it would have happened in a shorter amount of time, he wouldn't have, I think he still would have quit at this number. This number, or this,
Starting point is 00:14:47 time, this number. Really? I do believe that, man, and that's the truth. Okay. I mean, he's saying now in interviews, like, he's sad to say goodbye to it, which makes me think he's a human being who changes his opinion all the time like myself.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah. But I just, I really wish he had, I wish he and Brosden to some extent had gotten better scripts than, because he, Sierra Royale Skyfall, which are great.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And then, you know how I feel about Tomorrow never dies? It's fantastic. And GoldenEye, like, those, they have like two really good bond movies. And then the other stuff, okay, look, let's just take the, to individualize
Starting point is 00:15:35 the bonds as a franchise, right? So let's just take the, let's just call it the Brosnan verse and the Craig verse. Okay. And if you look at these, the breadth of the work, you're like, okay, there's two movies in there that you're like, all right. If only those existed.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Right. They're 50-50. Yeah. So, but what I wish had happened for Dan. Craig was I wish that, I wish Spector, I wish we weren't so tricked by Spector. When we first saw, we loved it. Yeah. And then we came to.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You're blaming Spector for that or us? I think that's more on us. Well, that's us, slack. I mean, we just were so desperate to get Bond back. We just want to love the Bond thing. And I'm feeling this going in, that no matter how, bad this movie is I'm gonna love it I don't know what to say right so you'll have like that period of time where we're like a year and a half later we do another podcast about how
Starting point is 00:16:25 wrong we were but I I have faith in this one and I know I've said that about every single one and I've been hurt before but this time has there been one in your memory your adult memory sort of like let's go back to like Timothy Dalton there where you were like this is not this one I do remember being let down by living daylights in the theater And I think because I was, I think in junior high, I wanted some spectacle at the end that never came. And it is kind of an anticlimactic movie, but I otherwise like it. But where else are you going to get cello chase, you know? You're in a case.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Just everybody just say the phrase cello chase. You've got to steer with a strativarius. It's a bullet hole in it. It's really exciting stuff. Let's get to some of this Bond 25 years about, specifically about the music. because we've got two seemingly controversial picks, but I'm not sure about that. Hans Zimmer doing the score
Starting point is 00:17:23 and Billy Elish doing the song. Now, my reaction as well, guys. Somebody I heard to my left go, and that's pretty much how I felt. The Hans Zimmer thing, I'm like, why? I kind of agree. That's... Did we just score the movie for that?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Bond 26. But then you hear that Johnny Mar from the Smith is now working with Hans Zimmer. Which I'm into. Get me that sweet sweet Fender Jaguar tone in there, a little twanggy guitar happening. We're all thinking it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'm like, that makes me. feel a little better about it. But also it's like, what is he, what world is Hans Zimmer? Well, here's that problem is that, are you aware of the Hans Zimmer music factory that he
Starting point is 00:18:34 tends to score these movies, but he has these kind of protogees. Did they do that song Everybody Dance now? Han Zimmer music factory. Temperature rise. What do you know. He has this like, I believe it's just a
Starting point is 00:18:50 commune underground or something, I don't know. And he gets these jobs and he'll write kind of like a theme, like one kind of piece of music and then these other people take it away, kind of like Edison's invention factory or James Patterson novels or something. It's more of a brand than him doing it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So it kind of rests more on, I think they've named who he's collaborating with, but he just seems to have this college or like a cult. So do they get like credit on the thing? I think they do. Okay. And he's doing like, six or seven movies this year.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Hans Zimmer. He's now a brand or a corporation. So I wonder what it'll be. But I still trust that Carrie Fuganag is going to lead this in the right direction. And that's why I trust his pick of Billy Elish, too.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I think his movie, I think they probably would have gone with someone that fits the movie. I hope. I like her. Her voice is great. And I just, like, her, but her songs, we were listening to some upstairs, and it just, it feels like, we're going to run into like a problem where they don't ever get a chorus going.
Starting point is 00:19:54 But don't you think she's not tasked with writing a bond song until now? She was, and her brother Phineas were writing these songs that they wanted to write. I'm sure she's probably aware of what a bond song kind of may need to be. But then again, maybe we get the 2020 version of all-time high, and that itself will be an all-time high. I was saying to Matt that the opening credits will just be a bunch of like aesthetic. It'll just be clocks and gravestones. There'll just be no time to die.
Starting point is 00:20:23 They'll just take it very literally. A red circle with a slash through it. Yeah. How do you guys feel about, first of all, Zimmer? Do you want to go, yay, or... Okay, so three to seven yeas, followed by a bunch of... And how about Billy Eilish?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Whoa, I heard one yay. That's interesting. That was kind of, yeah, more down than I would have. won't be worse than Sam Smith's song. Yeah, I don't think so. I think you're right. Which is like, I just, that's a, that is a lull me to sleep.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I need a horn section in a James Bond film. I think you're right. Or like some, yeah, some punching strings or something. Or some alpine horns. Or like a voice that will fucking crescendo into like Adele Shirley Bassie territory of like, hi, James Bond's here.
Starting point is 00:21:15 We're never going to beat Skyfall in our time, I don't think. as a song. In our living time? Well, just in, yeah, in this era of Bond. I don't know how. It was the right sort of like mix of things at the time, too. And I think that the Academy chose right when they gave her the Oscar. And I think that the Oscar should have gone to every James Bond movie ever for song.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Wait, did she get the Oscar? She did, yeah. Oh, I remember correctly. That might have been a fever dream. But Sam Smith did too, right? Am I making the thing up? Did Sam Smith get the? No, he got the Golden Globe, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, thanks other guy who watched the Globes that year. But I think it's like, with the Billy, you just sort of like, I know you felt about Jack White. Yeah. With that Jack White, Alicia Keys, collabo for Quantum of Salas. And, like, I know how you feel about the Cheryl Crow song and just sort of like,
Starting point is 00:22:08 but the whole idea of like picking the pop star of the moment. Yeah. Which has been happening since. Nancy Sinatra. Matt Monroe, really. from Russia with love he was sort of like in the Sinatra school of
Starting point is 00:22:23 popularity it's something they do and it's something that we're always going to have to be okay with and occasionally they'll select Madonna to make the worst song I've ever heard in my life is it even a song it might just be a tone of... Sigmund Freud. Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:39 Sigmund Freud Analyze that Wait, it's Analyze This but I'm doing the sequel Yeah, it's the sequel to die She was sitting in an office And someone had a copy of Analyze This on the desk The DVD It was just the DVD
Starting point is 00:22:56 She was like, Analyze this And she turned and saw an episode of Frasier Shrek 2 The first cut Well, are you guys hopeful About No Time to Die? Good, that's what I like to hear. I mean, I'm hopeful too, but I've been hopeful about a lot of varying large franchises lately
Starting point is 00:23:16 that have let me down to similar degrees. I think I objectively can say that I like the No Time to Die trailer better than the Specter trailer. Yes. So I don't know if that means anything. Zoran. Zoran. Oh, no, he's three feet tall. Oh, no, he's just far away.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Oh, baby Zorin. A little bleached A blonde child Have you guys ever seen the movie The Brood? That's basically a bunch of little Zorans walking around in onesie, baby onesies. I think that the idea of a James Bond movie
Starting point is 00:23:52 coming out in 2020 with practical bullet squibs Yeah, did you notice? And this is big for me. This is big. When James Bond does that Ashton Martin minigun shoot out in a circle, those aren't digital squibs? Are you guys telling your family?
Starting point is 00:24:09 Have you put out a newsletter? Would you say that your wigdar is higher than your squibdar or are they equal? Oh, they're pretty equal both in quality and just how they sound. Squibdar, wigdar. Yeah, my squibdar, I think, is maybe even better than my wig dar. Whoa. Yeah. And that's very impressive.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, I just have an eye for it. It's a gift. What's ridiculous to me is like, I just, like, it seems like from the trailer, it seems like James Bond is like retired, living at golden eye. Something like it. Right. I don't think golden eye exists in that universe. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:40 But his house is golden eye. It seems, right? And I just want to know what, like, is it the kind of thing where, like, you can buy government equipment at some sort of auction where he's like, I love that Aston Martin. I'm going to go buy it and have it. Well, we're going to find out. I don't think they're going to cover that part of it. That's what the first hour is about. That's why it's three hours long.
Starting point is 00:25:02 The first hour is about James Bond's retirement and financial. Windfalls. I would love to see it. The first 15 minutes, he's on Vanguard just getting an IRA. It's just him clearing out. He's just selling all the stock he's purchased over the years. And I'm there. Do you ever think he goes in and is like, I'm going to go ahead and short Zoran?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Because I know I'm about to throw him off a bridge. Like, do you think he's playing the market like that? I hope so. If you're smart, that's not insider trading, right? That's something. what's next on this subject here? Well, we've got a little ranking plan for you here today because we like to do rankings occasionally.
Starting point is 00:25:44 You can play along in the audience, and you can play along in your mind. We decided to rank something that became kind of difficult to rank in a good way. We thought we would rank the effectiveness, effectiveness, effectivity? I just think it's the overall quality in relation to what the movie is.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Of the titles themselves. Yeah, pretty profound. You know one's excited except me. I'm pretty excited. But, you know, how good they stand on their own? How good they relate to the films, that kind of thing? We're just going to blaze through this a little bit, so we won't bore you with it all day. Unless you want to just stick around after the show and we could just talk about it for hours.
Starting point is 00:26:26 We'll be outside talking about it. So please come. So, okay, so here's how we sort of did this. We sort of each wrote down. Matt brought a spreadsheet out. This spreadsheet gets in applause break. This is the kind of work that I feel like happens a lot in Ray Fines' MI6. Well, that's the nicest thing everyone's ever soaked in me.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So I, but there's a couple ways to look at this ranking in regards to like quality versus I just want to like, I want to know what it is sort of from the title. Yeah, and some of them are Fleming, some of them are not. Some of them, you just get a good feeling in your gut. Some of them you're like, that's unwieldy. Right. Yeah, some of them are reaching and grasping. Some are puns on popular phrases like live and let die, or you only live twice.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Yeah. Yeah. So would you like to start at the top or bottom? Oh, we've got to start at the bottom. Okay. Okay. I'm happy to do this right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Now. You go first. Matt. Yeah. At the very bottom of this title situation. Yeah. I have somewhat unsurprisingly or surprisingly. I've placed Golden Eye there.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Okay, yeah. He's not into that. No, I'm absolutely. I'm just processing it. We explain our opinions when we both have said it? Yes, that's right. Your classic James Bonding ranking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 So I put Golden Eye at number 25. And I have Die Another Day. Oh, interesting. I'm trying not to let the films influence me. Okay, what's your number 24? Die another day. Let's talk. Die another day. Yes, one person clap for that title.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Here's the problem with die another day. Yeah. What does it mean? Exactly. Exactly. Also, not long off the heels of tomorrow never dies, so die another day could kind of be tomorrow. it just feels like a vague, empty repeat. Is it like, oh, I can't do this Thursday, but on Friday I'm good to die?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah, I will die. Yeah, yeah. And next week is fine. I just, today, I can't. I'm doing my Vanguard IRA. Which also feels like he might not have time to die even then. I know, and that's, we'll get to it. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Okay. All right. Now, this may surprise you guys, but my mind. 24 is a view to a kill. Whoa. That does surprise me. And once again, these are opinions. They're facts, because
Starting point is 00:29:14 we're the preeminent source for facts of James Bond podcast hosted by two guys named Matt. I just find it unwieldy. A view to a kill sounds like it's a pun or like a reference to something. We can't open the floor for discussion. Oh my God, you're so right. I do apologize to everyone.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Moonraker. What? Yeah. Are you telling me we're sending someone to rake the moon? Are you telling me there's a guy whose job it is to rake the moon? No, I'm not telling you any of that, but I'll hold it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And we're not talking about that one for a while. Oh, no. This is interesting. I feel like we have very different opinions of James Bond movie titles. And that's what I love about this. My 23 is Tomorrow Never Dies. That's going to be a long wait.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Now, look. I'm not going to go in an explanation, but I will say that I don't want you to think I have biased because I don't like that movie. This is the highest this movie has ever scored on a list. Ladies and gentlemen, it may be a surprise. Specter. I'm going to rank that at 22, and we'll talk about that when it comes up. Okay. I'm glad you're writing this down when I've taken the time to put it up here.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah, I know. That's so everybody can see. This is just so I know what I'm saying versus what I haven't said. My 22 is Quantum of Solis. Whoa! Yes, sir! Did I offend you? You did. I don't think he's going to come back. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I am taking individual meetings with people after the show and we go through all this. My 21 is the man with a golden gun. Yeah. Again, people are surprised. and right. This is probably the most shocking if I was a YouTube thumbnail, I would be like... Just imagine how people in the audience right now are like tweeting this out and it's going viral.
Starting point is 00:31:13 This is just a controversy of all this. Upwards of no likes and one retweet. Yeah. Okay. Now just remember these are not a reflection on the film, but my number 21 is Casino Royale. Oh. My number... I know. I'm letting some people. My number 20 is Casino Royale. Let's talk. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:32 casino route. So for me, it feels like naming a movie. A scene heading. Sears. It's a little more exciting. Yeah, but Sears has appliances. You've got a sporting good section.
Starting point is 00:31:51 It's more like calling it raging waters. No, it's like if you made it today, it would be called the Bellagio. Yeah. Which is like, I'm with me. I don't want to, as much as I like gambling. I don't need to go see a movie named after a specific casino. I'm giving this a little, like, I think it would have been a little lower on my list
Starting point is 00:32:10 if it wasn't the first bond and there wasn't an established way to do a title. So this kind of gets grandfathered in before he really gets into those more thrilling-sounding titles. I find that it's the, like, it seems to me like it's the, hire the word count for me, I find, like, there's a ranking situation that I developed that I did not understand until I looked at. I took a step back Kaiser Sose style. I was like, holy shit, if it all makes sense. So Casino Royale, I just think is like blah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 It's kind of baseline. Yeah, it's like blah. Neither bad nor good. It just, I don't feel anything when I read the title on its own. I do only because what I feel about the movie, but when I think of the title by itself, it doesn't do much. Let's talk about number 19. Wait, how about, yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Thunderball. It's thrilling At first blush We'll get into it Sorry I'm just so excited We're getting to get into it very Very
Starting point is 00:33:11 Very shortly That was a mistake But I'm leaving it Thunder blush That would rank higher Than Thunderball for me I want Bond to say something Sultry to a woman
Starting point is 00:33:24 She turns red and he goes You've been Thunderbush Then he hits some sort of button And he's ziplined out of there you've been thunderblush so number 19 for me is Thunderball oh let's talk
Starting point is 00:33:40 so let's talk about Thunderball what the fuck is Thunderball yeah so it's a code right it's like I get it is yeah Thunderball is like the code name for something I don't know it's like if they but it's like if they called
Starting point is 00:33:52 Goldfinger Operation Grand Slam it's golden eye it's the same same idea as GoldenE but it seems a little too on the nose for a military coat name. It is nonsensical. It's, again, nonsensical. I don't know what I'm looking at.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Made all the more nonsensical when you hear the Johnny Cass version of this song, too. Just to hear him singing about Thunderball is just too many times remember. It sounds like a side effect of syphilis. His song or just the word? The word. What are your symptoms?
Starting point is 00:34:29 I've got thunderballs. It burns when I pee. Oh, God. All right. Oh, I've made a mistake. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Did we talk about something too soon?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. No, I just, hold on. I'm going to do a little editing. Of the spreadsheet, live on the podcast. For those of you at home, Matt has clicked into a certain cell, and he's currently moving the cursor and changing a letter. So, just so everyone at home knows what's happening. My actual number 21 is no time to die.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Oh. I got that squeezed in here. Then my next one's Casino Royale, then Thunderbrush. Well, guess what? No Time to Die. Here it is. We're talking about it. Number 18 for me, no time to die.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Well, this one also, I'm reserving a little room for judgment when you see the movie because it could be very relevant or it could be very generic like Die Another Day. Think about how Die Another Day really has very little to do with the movie itself. Well, I mean, if you think about the movie in premise, right, he is sort of captured at the very beginning in the cold open and then sort of left for dead. It should be like no time to have scorpion sting me. Or no time to grow a beard or no time. Or no time to grow a beard.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So we're going to have to put this terrible fake beard on you. How's your beard wig dar? Oh, it's through the roof. Floss. Through the roof. Yeah. Bearddar wigdar is so easy because you can often catch the little glisten of the mesh net or something. Oh.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It'll look for it, is there? He also in that movie so lazily slips into his Irish accent So many times It's like he knows that the franchise gave up on him So he gave up on the franchise at the same time Yeah, it's like he's in a long relationship Loveless relationship like in the story Quantum of Salas
Starting point is 00:36:20 There's no quantum of solace between Brosnan and the film Yeah That was a pretty good one He was done wrong Yeah that's fair I miss him Okay, my number 18 is octopusy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You don't have to agree. It's helpful if you do. We'll talk about it. All right, so 18, so we're now at the 17. Octopussy. Okay. I bumped this up. Again, I think my wife has octopusy because I have thunderballs.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Well, you better have 16 thunderballs. Doctor, what did we get to take care of this? You drove all the way up here for that. No. Yes. I bumped this one higher because on its face, Octopusy is not a good title, but it's so bold and such an outlier
Starting point is 00:37:18 that I really appreciate the balls on Octopussy. Ironically. I hear it no other way than Octopussy. Yeah. Like in my head. Octopussy Octopussy And then I think of him eating an eyeball
Starting point is 00:37:33 That is a good time Yeah What do you mean what Have you seen the film? Okay you remember he eats an eyeball That eyeball and the noise he makes And the way he purses his lips Because I saw that movie so much as a kid
Starting point is 00:37:47 It's with me in just a harrowing way It's like the Temple of Doom monkey brains Yeah and they came out virtually the same time Yeah And it was like hey do you want to I want to do a James Bond movie. Big year for... Well, you can't. Eat and gross things. Fine. I'll put
Starting point is 00:38:01 something grosser than a goat's eyeball in my movie. So, yeah, Octopus, again, it's another one of these sort of, like, what is this? I don't understand. Not a great title. I'm just like, I want to have, I want to be like, it's a great marketing title. I feel like people are like,
Starting point is 00:38:18 let's go see that. Yeah. James Bond's in a movie. About eight pussies. Can you believe what they did? Yeah. I remember the talk of, that was the talk of the town. Tee-hee. All right, my next one is Golden Eye. Other than the meta
Starting point is 00:38:31 Ian Fleming reference, it's just the name of a satellite, kind of like Thunderball. We're listening to the theme song up in the break room, and it has lyrics like, you watched me in the shadows as a child, and she's calling someone GoldenEye,
Starting point is 00:38:46 and it doesn't make any sense. So I'm pitching that perhaps the theme song is from the point of view of the satellite. Why didn't they just use the Dave Matthews song, Satellite? You'd like that. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Satellite in my high. Golden High in my eyes like a time and in... We should be doctors on all these movies. Come and fix them up. But Golden Eye, yeah, really. It's like if you look at the lyrics of the... Actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Fine. Here. I'm going to look at the... I'm going to tell you the lyrics of Golden Eye. I should do dramatic readings of every James Bond lyric. Yeah. Weird reaction I did not anticipate that, guys. Tune into Stitcher Premium.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Use the promo code bonding. And I will get to that. So let me just... I think you do that live, but they project a background and you're in silhouette, just like a bond title. And please, no one...
Starting point is 00:39:48 No one clap. I just want snaps, guys. I want it to be like I'm a real slam poet here. Do you guys have some praise? Okay, so here we go. Ready? Here's the Tina Turner goal
Starting point is 00:39:57 that I written by Bono in the end. edge. And lyrics as well? I believe so. Okay. Wait, real quick. Let me crack open a liquid death for this. All right. It's water, guys. It is. This is weird. It's just water. Okay, so here we go.
Starting point is 00:40:13 See reflections on the water, more than darkness in its depths. Okay. See him surface in every shadow on the wind. I feel his breath. Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Gold and I I found his weakness Golden I He'll do what I please Golden I No time for sweetness But a bitter kiss Will bring him to his knees
Starting point is 00:40:47 They so clearly wrote this Having never read the script Or seen a movie Here we go And then we kick into the real You'll never know how I watched you from the shadows as a child. This song is a soul.
Starting point is 00:41:06 You'll never know how it feels to be the one who's left behind. Now again, I feel like this is the satellite saying, I've been watching you from up here, and you left me in space. I'm golden eye. When the person is whoever, the satellite, the person is watching someone in the shadows, are they the child, or is the person in the shadows the child?
Starting point is 00:41:30 I believe that it was baby golden eye. I think it was like a year after the satellite launched. So it's a smaller satellite that has yet to grow. It had yet to grow into a giant EMP. Okay, now it's making sense. Okay, so you'll never know the days and the nights, because it's in space, it has no day and night, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:41:49 That's why I think it's about the satellite. The tears that I've cried, leaking hydraulic fluid. But now my time has come, and time time is not on your side see him move through smoke and mirrors feel his presence
Starting point is 00:42:08 in the crowd again if you're being surveilled by the satellite you'll be like I'm watching me other girls this is a better Spectre theme song like the surveillance it is shadows and other girls they gather around him
Starting point is 00:42:23 if I had him I wouldn't let him out then it gets extra confusing. Golden Eye, not lace or leather. Suddenly a Stevie Nick's song. Golden Chain take him to the spot.
Starting point is 00:42:40 What? Golden I'll show him forever. I'll take forever to see what I've got. Nonsense. They put words in a bowl and took turns taking them out. This really explains that
Starting point is 00:42:56 Spider-Man musical they did. There were signs. Yeah. It was like we should have really looked into their lyrics for James Bond. You'll never know how I watched you. Okay, we're back to that. And then here we go.
Starting point is 00:43:08 With a golden eye, golden, comma, golden eye, with a golden eye. Golden eye, golden. So, what? This move, this song's upsetting. So the next time you all listen to it, remember, it's terrible.
Starting point is 00:43:28 All right. I can't wait to pull more lyrics up. Okay, so we are now at what number, Matt? 16. 16. Let's take a look. I'm going to go over to this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Okay. No time to die. We've talked to quantum of solace is there for me. All right. Now, some of you are like, why? Why this high or why this low? Where do you guys fall on this? High.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Do you think quantum of solacell is the higher ranked? That's interesting because publicly or like in the mainstream, it's reviled as a title, I think, generally. What mainstream are you watching where they're discussing this? Oh, Fox News. That's where I get all my Bond 25 news. They love Billy Elish on there. Are we in for another Quantum of Solace? Tune in.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Has your Quantum been Salist? Quantum of Salis, the only reason I sort of rank it where it is is because, like, didn't they have trouble translating this title? into other languages. It just also, I mean, if you look at it as like just as a pile of words, which it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:44:45 It's like, it's interesting. I don't want to sit and look at a title where I have to go, is that about the emotional depth of being James Bond and how little piece you find? Can I get in on that? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:44:58 I think you're right, and they tie it to the movie in the sense that the organization is called quantum, but I think that there was reason in this movie for there to be the discussion about what quantum of solace is in the novel, about how a relationship loses all of its respect
Starting point is 00:45:14 for each other. And if they had something like that in the movie to also tie it to that, and someone mentioned that's what a quantum of solace is, I don't need it to be that much on the nose, but it would have been, I think, served it a lot better. Otherwise, it doesn't feel like it connects to the movie. It's almost like
Starting point is 00:45:30 you need the quantum reveal happening in Casino Royale. Yeah. And that feels like a better title for the emotional stakes of that movie. This movie, which I think is visually, I think it's one of the more
Starting point is 00:45:45 aesthetically pleasing. Yeah, you know I really like this movie. Yeah, I know how much you like Earth, fire, water, and wind. I love elements. Not to mention heart. Yeah. Go planet. I think that... I think that
Starting point is 00:46:01 but the title itself, again, I'm looking at the spines of all of these. And I'm just like, we only went 25, right? We didn't put never say never again in there. No. We can do an honorable mention. Should we discuss never say never again and sort of in the middle? Or at the end and we'll say where we put it. Okay. So by Cuondrosals again, I just feel like it's like I don't want to have to think too much about what a title is. This is a very baseline ranking. Yeah, I get you. I am glad to hear that you guys like you guys like you guys like it so much. That does make me feel like I could bump it up out of pressure. Okay. You guys are really pressuring Matt. Now, here we go.
Starting point is 00:46:38 This is something that... Wait, it's my turn. Okay, go ahead. 17. 17, 18 for you. We're still on 18. I see some words being written. You ready?
Starting point is 00:46:48 Oh, no. Oh, no. I don't care for this. I don't like what's happening here. Look, we're into the period where I like these titles. I like this title. It's just, and I love that it's connected to his title. It's just...
Starting point is 00:47:03 his family crest and his motto and all that. Yeah. But hang on, we'll talk about it. Oh, I'm so sorry. We'll talk about it. Now, so that was, so we're at number 15 for us here. Dr. No. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yeah, I'm with the crowd there. The crowd did not care for that, nor did Matt Goreley. Yeah. Oh, Dr. Knopp. Higher. I rank that higher. Dr. Knop. What's Dr. Knop?
Starting point is 00:47:30 For me, number 15. 15 is diamonds are forever. Interesting. Okay. That's very interesting because I've got a little news for you. It's time to talk about diamonds are forever. Whoa. This movie, I think, we're getting into
Starting point is 00:47:51 the sort of the titles of like your sort of like step-by-step in IKEA instructions on how to build a James Bond title. Even you think at this point Fleming was doing it. Yeah, I think. he's like, oh, this is the Fleming. I know how to build a Fleming novel. This is a
Starting point is 00:48:07 early Fleming novel. This, you could say, I don't know, it's kind of its own thing, and it's early on. Because it goes, Casino Real, live and let die, Moon Raker, Diamonds are Forever, so it's the fourth book. Yeah, and
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm like, Casino Royale, how do we feel about that type? Did I get that right? Is that right? Yeah. Casino Royale, from Russia with Love, from Russia with Love, Hey, hold it. We'll hold that. Moonraker, again, we'll talk about it whenever the fuck you decide to put that on there.
Starting point is 00:48:39 We may never get to it. This is unbelievable because that's 23 for me. But Diamonds Are Forever, what don't you like? We love the movie, just as a campy romp. Yeah. I think Diamonds Are Forever is a good title, but it's not super Bondy and it's more about diamonds than it is about Bond. But is there
Starting point is 00:48:57 any sort of, like, could you look at it like James Bond is the diamond? I guess. You know, he's hardened sand. Cole, whatever. How do you make diamonds? He's glass? He's glass.
Starting point is 00:49:11 The M. Knight Shyamala? Yeah, he's unbreakable. He's glass. It's just more about diamonds and less about bond, you know? Yeah. I don't know. But it does tie into the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That's why, I mean, I don't hate it. I love the song. Doesn't hate it. Okay. Next for me, oh, I actually had these switched, but I'll keep it. Yeah. The Man with the Cold. Golden Gun, let's talk.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Okay. I see that and I'm like, okay, great. Guys, guns, gold. Yeah, I like how... I don't know what it is. I like how long it is in the sense it's like, yeah, you're going to stick around
Starting point is 00:49:46 for a full sentence here. Yeah. Uh-huh. The man, I'm listening. Uh-huh. With, oh, he's about something. A golden... Oh, what could it be? I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Could it be a car? Is it like a bus? Is it a pen? Is it like maybe a... a watch? A touch, like a midas touch? What might it be? But that's already Goldfinger. It's a gun. Whoa. Oh my God. It's past my bedtime. I gotta get home.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah, it's interesting. I like it. It's fine. Yeah. I mean, I'm on the above average category already. We're in the fines. Yeah. For you. I mean, for the gold gun for me, I feel like, is just... This is better than fine. I'd say this is good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I think once you get to the top 10, you're into like, this is good. Don't tell me how to do my own rankings. All right. Look, if the middle is good for you, enjoy it. Well, I'm just saying that with all things bond, they skew so good for me that the average is already good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like, to me, that's a B-minus title. And we're going to get into some A-plus-plus-plus. The programming language? I'm definitely... Grading on the list. curve. That's the only city this. We get a laugh in the programming. Let me look at this. You have beautiful chestnut eyes.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Yeah, they're gorgeous. I have noticed that we have yet to say this following 13. I wonder if it's the same as mine. Goldfinger. Oh, no, it's not. This one, again, much like golden eye. We can't. We can't. We can't talk about it. I'm not going to talk about it. You've committed the sin that I keep doing. Okay, Golden Eye is...
Starting point is 00:51:36 Gold Finger has been said by me. Matt, what is next for you? License to kill. Oops. Interesting. And wrong. I've got reasons. We're not going to talk about it yet, but don't judge yet.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Now, we're getting into a very tough area, guys. Are some people talking about the spelling out there? But we know why we're doing this. British spelling. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's the title of the movie. I'm not trying to be pedantic about it. I don't like that there's a little red line under there either.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Believe me. So your license to kill you have ranked at 13. Number 12 for me is Tomorrow Never Dies. Okay. Now we can talk about Tomorrow Never Dies, correct? Yeah. Okay, you have a very, very... Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I look at Tomorrow Never Dies and it's sort of the opposite sort of problem. It's not a problem. I enjoy, this is, we're getting into the titles. I like all these titles now. Tomorrow Never Dies for me feels like, I know that feeling. When you're like, it's Monday. You're like, fuck. I hope tomorrow doesn't happen. But since it doesn't die, it's inevitably going to happen. So then I have to go through Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And then it repeats all over again. So like the fact that tomorrow, it's like the future is, like, the future is, always going to happen. It's like, it means that James Bond's work is fruitless. It's like tomorrow, I gotta do this tomorrow too. I gotta show up to my office and they're gonna tell me who to kill tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It just never dies with you guys. That's what he says. It feels like Quantum of Solace to me and that there's a word that ties into the movie tomorrow is the name of the paper. But it doesn't really have any... It's an empty connection. I like a meaty, metamorphosis.
Starting point is 00:53:34 media connection. You asked Elliot Carver when his paper was going to fold. He'd be like, never. I'm the best media magnate in the world. Look out China. Here come exclusive broadcast rights for 100 years.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Movie is so stupid. It's so stupid. They did nothing regarding like, they didn't make him have like a tech arm of his company. They didn't make him have like a weapons manufacturing arm of his company. He literally was a guy who made papers and news programs.
Starting point is 00:54:10 So dumb. All right. Ask Roger Ailes. See, you could be a supervillain and own a news organization. I'm telling you. Let's talk Goldfinger. Okay. What the hell is a gold finger other than his name?
Starting point is 00:54:26 It's kind of the Midas Touch thing. So it's interesting. It's odd, that's for sure. Gold finger. Let me pull up the lyrics to Goldfinger. Now So, applause for the way. Okay, Goldfinger,
Starting point is 00:54:43 here's the thing. This one, we feel like this is a very clear, lyrically, it's a very clear song. Yeah. And it is clear off the bat because the first line of the song
Starting point is 00:54:54 is, Goldfinger, he's the man. I'm like, okay, it's not a satellite. We're talking about a guy. The man with the miters touch. I'm like, oh, okay. So this is all. is relating to the gold finger situation. A spider's touch.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Ooh, he's dangerous. Such a cold finger. Of course. But gold's a pretty good heat conductor. Internal rhyme, which is nice. I like that as well. Beckons you to enter his web of sin. Keeping the metaphor.
Starting point is 00:55:23 They're not really mixing metaphors. But don't go in, Matt. I never even opened. Shirley Bassi's like, hey guys, I'm going to tell you about this guy and give you a warning in the first verse. Golden words. He will pour in your ear.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I love it. Silver tongue, but gold. But his lies can't disguise what you fear. For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her. It's the kiss of death from Mr. Goldfinger. The lyrics are unassailable. It's perfect. I think they're great.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I think they're great. The title is good. Pretty girl. Beware of his heart of gold. this heart is cold yeah well he's recycling rhymes but yeah it's a beautiful song
Starting point is 00:56:16 yeah that's so much better than golden eye yeah definitely this guy's not watching any kids from shadows he's not a little golden boy watching children yeah golden eyes right up there with my name is Luca it's just a weird
Starting point is 00:56:32 all right what's I would love a little a little portly 12 year old gold figure with binoculars just watching people from the shadows as a child my name is Zorin I live in a mining shack he just he sits and watches baseball games he's like I'd love to hit a grand slam and that because he has no physical ability he just makes up that plan anyway Matt yeah what's next we are at number 11 and here we go we're into this sort of like what does this mean
Starting point is 00:57:10 slash this is even though it doesn't immediately mean anything to me I like it. Skyfall. Oh. She just said that like Keanu reads. Oh, right on. Mine My next one is
Starting point is 00:57:27 Specter. Whoa. Let's talk about Specter. Spector's a good title. No, it's not because it isn't meaningless. No, it's meaningful. It's meaningful. Wait, pause. It's meaningful. It's the literal and metaphorical.
Starting point is 00:57:44 That's what I love in a James Bond title. You've got the organization of Spector and the Spector of his brother that's been haunting him and is the author of all his pain. Now, I'm not defending that as a plot choice, but as a title, it checks. All right, Palpatine.
Starting point is 00:58:02 I did everything. I wish all these people. You're a big of miniature Ewach Zorans. threat to me. I think it's, I think it's a strong title. A show of hands. Show of hands. How many people here have seen Rise of Skywalker? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Box office disagrees. How many people have not seen it but would like to see it? Oh, okay. Then I won't spoil much. How many people have not seen it but know everything? But know everything. You, sir, the only person who hasn't seen it and doesn't know what happens. That movie We don't have time, Matt.
Starting point is 00:58:45 We have a... This isn't like when we're at home. We have a hard out. We've got to get through these. Come on. Okay. Save it for Star Warsing. Again, don't worry, everyone.
Starting point is 00:58:58 It's still in the works. It's not going to happen. It'll happen. I'm telling you, once this Goldberg's hiatus comes, oh, baby. I can't get this guy to return an email. We've been talking about. Yeah, but text I could return.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Some of the time. I can't believe I'm running a spreadsheet. That's what you were saying about it. So here's how little I often checked my phone. The other day, I looked at my phone and it had a, you know, I missed the call. And then the phone, the Apple iPhone said to me, would you like to keep receiving notifications from this app? The phone.
Starting point is 00:59:35 That was a metaphor for me going, would you still like to hear from your friend? I was just like, oh, it's that bad, huh? Yes. All right, so we're at the top. We're into the top ten, everybody. That's right. This is very exciting.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Here we go, in the top ten, for your eyes only. Wait, we're excited about the top ten. You feel like that should be higher in the top ten? Well, clearly, I guess we'll find out. All right. My number 10 is the same as number 10. What? I love the people that are laughing at your spreadsheet operation.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I wrote this for your eyes list. Oh, boy. Oh, interesting. Okay. Whoops. Yeah, that's very interesting. The spy who loved me. I think this is a great one. This is a great title.
Starting point is 01:00:48 The spy who listed me on his kill sheet. That would be good. I'd go see that movie. Yeah. The spy who loved me, Matt. It's sicken. It's staying. No, write it down.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Oh. What? Oh, that's next for you? Yeah, yeah. Oh. And let it auto fill into the spy who listed me. Solid title. It's just romantic.
Starting point is 01:01:14 You got a spy? Is this the only title with the word spy in it? Yeah. Yeah. But it's also like, I get it. This movie. I know what this movie is. It's a spy thriller.
Starting point is 01:01:25 There might be some romance. Yeah. Solid title. No complaints here. You know. I'm on board. You're in the top ten. Congratulations.
Starting point is 01:01:33 You've made it. You get a prize. It's mine. For your... No. From Russia with love. I like it. Yeah, you can like it.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And we'll continue when we get to it. Yep. Okay. Very long from now. Okay. Not as long as we're. I have moonricker at a negative 10. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:00 And for me now, it's the world is not enough. Now here's the thing. You have to take some things inherently at face value when you're going to see a James Bond movie. And you have to be like, okay, this, I'm going to see a movie about the greatest spy in all the lands. And when I see the world is not enough, and I'm like, I get this. I think I get it.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Because I'm like, oh, this is about some crazy, wacky, bad guy who's like, the world is not enough. I also need space. But it's weird. You're attributing it to the bad guy, but it's bond small. That's the twist. That's the M. Knight Shyamalan of the movie. I thought this movie was one thing. All of a sudden, it's just in his crest.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Okay. It's one of those. Yeah, I mean, I don't have a complaint. Did I, you know, I found, we found the Myra family crest. And what is it? By integrity alone. Oh. Which in Latin is something longer.
Starting point is 01:03:06 But I was like, I'd watch that movie. Do you want another gory one? It's embarrassing because it's a little sultry. Let's hear it can't be any more seltry than thunderballs. Profundescendant penetrates deeply. That's embarrassing. penetrates deeply. The goarly...
Starting point is 01:03:33 And then Matthew means gift of God. This is... It feels... It feels wrong. So, the crest, the coat of arms
Starting point is 01:03:46 of the goarly family. I walk around as the gift of God who penetrates deeply. There are worse ways to go around. But there are... There are better things
Starting point is 01:04:02 to try to live up to. The world is not enough. Yeah, so I have it ranked so much. Eight. You inflated that a little, or no? It feels... We also had to do this in a pinch, so... I mean, it wasn't...
Starting point is 01:04:19 I just like the longer title for some reason. But not the man with the golden guy. Okay. Okay. Next. Doctor No. Okay. We can talk about it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah. it's just so clipped and short like Fleming, Doctor, No. And it's just, no, no! Yeah. You stop that. This is the title. Take two of these and call me in the morning.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Doctor, no. Yeah. I love it. It's the bad guy, like Goldfinger. It's negative. It's kind of scary. It's mysterious. He's a doctor, but his name's no.
Starting point is 01:04:57 He's a doctor and a command. I am going to start to go a little quicker so we can actually talk to the audience. Yeah, we want to do a tiny bit of a Q&A. So Dr. Now, again, yes. It's just... Dr. No? Yes. Dr. No and patient, yes.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Dr. No, patient, yes. Here we go. Live and let die. Okay. For me, it's... Hold on, I got to type with one finger. Mm-hmm. me next is
Starting point is 01:05:35 you only live twice yolt yolt next for me yeah yolt let's talk about you only live twice it's a good one it's kind of a pun again longer title higher ranked for me
Starting point is 01:05:49 I think you can see if you look actually at the spreadsheet good visual representation of our styles you like to really mix it up yeah I'm like you only live twice I thought you lived once I gotta see this movie it's true I think it's the novel that starts with an ancient Japanese proverb that sounds like Fleming probably made up
Starting point is 01:06:09 that's... You only live twice once when you're born and once when you stare death in the face, I think, is what it is. Which is... That's pretty good. That should have been the title. The whole thing. Yeah. Well, why not make the whole title the lyrics to Golden Eye? You'll never know how I watched you from The Shadows as a child.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I would see the movie. Ian Fleming's, you'll never know. how I watched you from the shadows as a child. James Bond-O-7 in Ian Fleming. Just an 11-year-old chain smoking Turkish cigarettes. With a typewriter. My number six is live and let die. It's funny, we've got the two...
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah, it's sort of flipped a little bit there. The two pun titles together, though. Yeah. Live and let live. And live and let die. Live and let die, I feel like, is just... There's like a brutality to it that I like a lot. And I'm going to see a gritty spy feature.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And I'm like, I know what this is going to be, I think, you know, based just solely on the title. It's a good title. It's a great title. And that's why it's ranked so highly. Next for us, here we go, everybody. This is. We have a few that haven't even, we have two that haven't shown up yet.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I know. It's amazing. But here, I feel like one of them going to show up in a second. On Imagisty's Secret Service. Okay, I'm not writing that out. Oh, H, M-S-S. Okay, mine number five is the same. Whoa!
Starting point is 01:07:39 We finally matched. I swipe right. Okay, now... I bumbled. On her... On her Magic Secret Service, again. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I like it. I know what it is. Yeah, it's not... It doesn't tell you anything about the movie at all, other than that's his job. Yeah. But it's so cool. And I'd go watch it.
Starting point is 01:08:03 I like movies that are job titles. Yeah. Do you find some of these are really hard to separate from the movies? That's one that I just can't help but factor the whole movie in. Because of the music and everything. This one I feel like this is a great title
Starting point is 01:08:16 in the sense that I feel like they all could be titled that. Yeah. I know. Except for the times when he's rogue, which has been the last 20 movies. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:26 That's Art of Magic's Secret Service. Next up. for me the living daylights whoa TLD totally crest drive too long didn't
Starting point is 01:08:40 okay number four for me is for your eyes only now this is just such a classic phrase of espionage it's just perfect it's a perfect title it's like the other great movie title
Starting point is 01:08:56 top secret it's like I know what this is going to be. It's top secret. We're already into the A pluses for me. I think starting with live and let die is where I'm into the A pluses. So, yeah, but again, I think that for your eyes only is perfect. It's beautiful. Yeah. It's like a beautiful title. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Now, let's see. Where are we?
Starting point is 01:09:28 Number three. Number three. Here's the problem. My hand wrote mine. Uh, I might have missed it. Give me your three right now, quick. Okay, my number three is skyfall. So let's talk about that. Yeah, let's talk about Skyfall. So this is a title I did not like it all when they announced it. Because I just assumed it was like Golden Eye or Thunderball.
Starting point is 01:09:55 It was just a code word for a mission or something. But when you find out it's his ancestral estate, oh, you're really hitting my sweet spot. But, you know, there's also like, there's also like some panic to it. Yeah. You know, it's one of those ones that works on two levels. The sky is falling. Oh, no. Is Golden Eye still up there?
Starting point is 01:10:17 How is he doing? What age is he at this point? Is he watching me? I think it's a prerequisite for a title to have a double meaning, basically. And all... In the sense of like... Honor Majesty's Secret Service doesn't really... Right.
Starting point is 01:10:33 but for your eyes only does where it's the kind of like spy talk and a lover's command lover's command I don't know man I'm so tired what's your number three I can't
Starting point is 01:10:48 I think I view to a kill I think it's a view to a kill is that just because you're in San Francisco and you're just seeping into your bones I just can't believe how fucking opposite we are on this title Can I tell you that whenever I come up to the city I secretly just hope the hook and ladder is gonna drive.
Starting point is 01:11:10 With a 50-year-old man hanging off the back. Oh, geez. Suck in the gut, James. I like a view to a kill because it's just, it's sort of like poetic lyricism of like a gun sight. Yeah, I don't hate. it as much as low as I have it but in the movie they really stick it in it's
Starting point is 01:11:37 nothing about the movie that's about a view they just have one throwaway line although I guess that's the same with living daylights but the living daylights the fact that you just like boom punt and then you're into the fucking let's save it because I haven't even had it yet I'm still I've got a virtual tie for one and two and I don't know what to do here oh we may have to take an intermission What's your number two? I don't know where my number two are.
Starting point is 01:12:06 What happened? You can't just... I know what number one is. What's left? Hang on. For you? Yes. From Russia with Love?
Starting point is 01:12:14 That's number one. Spoilers. Oh my God. No time to die? Yes. What? Matt. It feels like it's number two
Starting point is 01:12:26 because the movie hasn't come out yet. So we... It's already up there. Great. Oh, okay. Done. Not that. Guys, I don't know what the fuck happened.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Is it, hang on. Is it not the Vi-Ferjibigibati? This one? Who someone know it? There it is! That was the one not mentioned. LTK. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I wrote out the names, and then all of a sudden started doing abbreviations up here. And then I'm like, this doesn't make. His tablet said, do you still love me? This is the first time you've written on me in 20 years. You'll never know how this tablet watched me as a child. I like Licensed to Kill. It's pretty in the middle for me. I like it because it tells me there's paperwork involved.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I like to, I like that, you know, you need your certification. I imagine there's a renewal period after eight years. What do you think of the original title? I wonder if he keeps the same photo. Do you like license revoked or licensed to kill? kill better. License revoked is the sequel to license to kill. No, it's the original title. No, no, I know, but it just feels like I'm glad
Starting point is 01:13:40 they didn't do it because I feel like they were jumping the Walther. Even though that whole movie is about his license as being revoked. Aren't they always? Like, it feels like these days, he's constantly having it revoked or throwing it into the Thames. Yeah. I need to ask the audience
Starting point is 01:13:58 for this to break my tie between two and one. Do I go with my heart or my brain? Heart. Okay. I love the voice that was used for that. Braing! Max Zorin? Living Daylights is my number two.
Starting point is 01:14:21 All right. Yeah, two smattering's of applause. That's amazing. Are Timothy Dalton higher than we thought rankings here? Yeah. It's just such a good phrase. It's got a little bit of whimsy in there, like just the daylights are alive. Whimsy? Whimsy?
Starting point is 01:14:41 Whimsy? So, living daylights is, again, partially that's probably the hardest one for me to separate from the movie. Really? Yes. I love the movie quite a bit. The Living Daylight. And I just love the way Timothy Dolphin
Starting point is 01:14:58 says it, and I just love that it logically makes sense in that sentence. I wonder what the origin of that. I see how you get your daylight knocked out of you but you're living daylights it's so specific and so it's weird it's better than your dead daylights yeah or if you're golden eye you don't have daylight you're just up in space alone watching from the shadows as a child
Starting point is 01:15:23 yeah so from Russia with love is my numero uno and this means that Matt goarly has selected just like the moon raker goes There is no cooler word in the English language than Moon Raker. Moon Raker! Thank you. I want to name a kid Moon Raker. If I was a Kardashian, I would. What is a moon raker?
Starting point is 01:16:00 It's a rocket, you son of a bitch. In the movie, it's a space shuttle. But Moon Raker... Moon Raker. It means it's like... In the 50s, when this rocket was being made, it's so powerful it can get up to the moon and just skim it, just rake it,
Starting point is 01:16:15 just scrape the moon. So full thrust all the way to the moon. 1950s pretty amazing. Once you're breaking Earth's gravity, you're still have your fucking booster own? This is a waste of fuel. Not for the moon raker. It has just copious fuel supplies.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I don't like the title because I don't, I'm like my brains. doesn't, it's just like, what the fuck are we talking about it? But doesn't your heart say... I've seen a moon golfer thanks to the Apollo 17 crew. They played golf on the moon. I've never seen a moon raker.
Starting point is 01:16:50 They're shoveled. They're shoveled. They've shuffled. It's given you something you've never seen before. I don't like it. But say it. Say moon raker. No, don't say it with a shrug. Say it with... Moonraker. Yeah. You're a man again.
Starting point is 01:17:06 It feels a little... It feels better than I thought. You guys say it. Moonraker. Now say cello chase. Both are satisfying in different ways. In different ways. Moonraker.
Starting point is 01:17:20 So you like Moonraker, the title, because of it's just, it's like a pop-p-wow. It's pure gut. Yeah. And I think you can't beat that. I think you can. Hard over-bring. If you look here, I think there's 22 things that can beat it. You are so wrong.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Moon Raker. Moon Raker. That's terrible. Moon Raker. It doesn't mean anything. It means so much that you can't even define it. It's everything. It's the golden eye of rockets.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Golden Eye is going, I'd love to be Moon Raker one day, but I don't know how to do it. Look at Moon Raker. So cool. Moon Raker. You think the golden eye watched the Moon Raker from the shadows
Starting point is 01:18:12 That's what it is. That's what it is. All right, look, I'll give it to your opinion, guys. Objectively, he's wrong. Anybody want to make a case for the best bond title out there if you feel pretty passionately? Yes, just shout it out. Okay, and do you want to back that up? Okay, yeah, don't get too close to the line.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Great, good. So you have to ask, is it just gibberish or does it actually have some relevance to the movie, has relevance to the movie. Right. Is the relevance like some Macuffin? Is the relevant some McGuffin? Or is it a reference to the villain? Or does it have some deeper thematic relevance?
Starting point is 01:18:55 So it's a reference both to the villain and it has some deeper thematic relevance as well. So I think it's the only movie title that satisfies all of those. The only one? I didn't know you had those exact requirements for a movie title, sir. What's your name?
Starting point is 01:19:11 Andrew. Let's hear it for Andrew. Thank you, Andrew. I agree. I do agree with that. Moon, Raker. Moon, moon, moon, moon, rain. Okay, so we have, like, let's, we can do five minutes of Q and A. If anyone has any cues, we can A.m. Yes, we have one over here. I'm going to wander over with my wired microphone.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I think that's just to pick up the ambient snapping music from the, yeah, jazzy. How are you, sir? Well, thank you. Is Irving Kirsner here, and if so, just have any notes on? on Rise of Skywalker or No Time to Die. Mack, you go take a look and see if Irving's back there. Just see if he wants to come out. What are you doing? I'm sleeping. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:19:55 They're just wondering if you could come out there for a little bit. I'm having a sits bath. Here, let's just towel you off a little bit. Here you go. Oh, that's a Terry Cloth. All right, I'll hobble down. Here I come. Now, Irving, Welcome to the stage, Irving. Kirshner, everybody.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Director of such films as The Empire Strikes Back and Robocop 2. You're forgetting Never Say Never Again. My PSD Resistence. Speaking of the Resistance, I also did Rise of Skywalker. You did? I'm told. That wasn't J.J. Abrams. Oh, no, I put...
Starting point is 01:20:36 I made the baby goblin. Sir, that was the Mandalorian. It's all of a piece. I'm doing a sort of multimedia thing. I made a little baby Yoder, and I made a little baby Zarin.
Starting point is 01:20:54 And I'm going to do a little spin-off film. Have you thought about perhaps a little baby Robo-Kip. Robo Kip. That's exactly right. Anyway, I do got to go, but I want to say, Go Monraker. What I miss?
Starting point is 01:21:14 Well, Irvin Kirster swung by from beyond. He seemed to be in good spirits. Just got toweled off. Are there any other? Oh, yes, sir. Go ahead. Hi, guys. Hello.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Hi. Apropos, absolutely nothing we've talked about tonight. I just had a question about, in your head canon and viewing order, is it cool with you to swap Honor Majesty Secret Service in Diamond's Are Forever so that you can watch all the Conneries in a row? I think it's cool for you to do whatever you want to do with the...
Starting point is 01:21:47 Because the two stories... The two stories are not connected whatsoever. Right. Absolutely. I believe that these are given to us to then... I seem to be blowing Matt's mind here. Well, you can't... What?
Starting point is 01:22:02 You have to... Diamonds or Forever has to pick up right after the death of Tracy, so... Why? Because he's on that revenge spree. But put him in the Massachusetts... But he could have been on a revenge spree. Can't follow you when I live twice. Why can't it?
Starting point is 01:22:17 Because he already knows who Blofeld is. Right. Plastic surgery is explained in the diamonds. He just says he got his ears done. To connect the lobe. It actually makes more sense to have the plastic surgery first, so you go, oh, that's why he keeps changing.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I'm with you on that. Thank you. How do you feel about Moonwreckers as a title? Pretty good title. But better than that. How do you feel? Is it not actually? actually a reference to a tall ship, like a sail on a tall ship, like the upper boats.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Oh, that's right. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Triple meaning. Triple meaning, Jim. We have a winner.
Starting point is 01:22:54 It's the tallest of ships. It rakes the moon. Oh. You know what a more important was? It's way up there, top of the mess. Thank you. Look, I think you can watch it in that order, but only if you follow my James Bond canon order, which is Casino Royal, Cuantra Salas, everything else.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Skyfall. Well, what do you do with Specter and no time to die? Those happen after Skyfall. All right. We're back in. I think Daniel Craig's James Bond at some point fought Goldfinger.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I know you all laugh and think it's ridiculous, but it's the same person. Thank you. One other person. That's the guy that told us to use our brains. Brains! Okay, anybody else?
Starting point is 01:23:43 have a question. Two new you, you can come to us. One over here. Yes. Oh, thank you very much. We have some help happening here. There's a microphone coming. You have a beautifully knit hat.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Hey, guys. Hi. Long-time listener. I was just wondering, it's 2020, and obviously the new James Bond's coming out. So do you guys have an idea, like, what you're going to do ramping up to it? Because it's in April. It's January right now.
Starting point is 01:24:05 It's coming. So the beauty of this movie coming out is I go on hiatus from the Goldberg's. Just so you know, this would be the first time I'm hearing any of it. this point. We've talked to, I mean, we've had vague plans, so I'll talk about it in front of you guys and Matt for the first time. Good question.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I am, I will, my availability opens right the fuck back up third week of March. Okay. So we can do sort of what we did to lead up a specter where we sort of, I will do a podcast where we discuss what we hope is happening, what we'd like from the movie.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Do you remember when we briefly talked to Phil Nobiel about taking a trip to England to see this? We could also do that. Because it comes out like 10 days earlier or something there. Maybe, doesn't it? I think, yeah. I'm getting a positive yes right there, sir. Are you English?
Starting point is 01:24:58 No, but he... Okay. You are? I'm on my ticket already. Oh, yeah. What? Who's your ticket guy? Okay. To Lundon?
Starting point is 01:25:10 To Lundon? Yeah. You purchased your plane ticket? Oh, I see. So you were taking a trip anyway, and you were like, if I bump it down a couple of weeks, there's the microphone. Tell everybody at home what you just said to us. You are going to England when?
Starting point is 01:25:26 At the end of March. I go once a year for fun and I plan this one around the Bond movie. That's brilliant. Okay. Now you always, do you always plan it around the Bond movie when it's coming out? So every like five years, you're like, I've got to go around this. No, I've only been going the last four years. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:43 But now, yes. But now I go early. But now I go early. You're there early. So you're going to London and you're going 10 days early. You're going to watch. You, sir, are a hero. I tried.
Starting point is 01:25:53 That's amazing. Well done. You're speechless. I feel like we should do it. We could do. I think so. These are grand plans, but I feel like we could probably knock out a live London show too, right around there. Probably.
Starting point is 01:26:11 You guys all want to go to London? we'll rent a ship with a moon raker. Sir, before you, what is your name, sir? Michael. Michael, here's the deal. If we go do a London show, we'd like you to also buy tickets for that. Okay, yeah, I'll be there for a week. But we'd like you to buy 100 tickets.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I'll give a second. We're going to, maybe we build our trip around you, Michael. I'm excited. I do want to say one thing. Sir, is it you that has the On Her Majesty Secret Service jacket? Would you mind standing up? Look at how cool this thing is. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Oh, man. Sir, where did you get that? That's from the... Is that a crew jacket? Pizgloria thing. So my girlfriend had a work trip to Switzerland, and she tolerated us going to Shiltorn and Pizgloria.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Oh, my God. And we went, did the pictures. But she loved it when she got there. Bought the villain jacket. She tolerated it. She's cool with it. It's still at I tolerate, not at... wow, this was great, show me all the rest of these movies?
Starting point is 01:27:15 We have to pick and choose which movies we watch based on how historically problematic they've become. Okay, so let's just go ahead and knock this off the list. Yeah. Just go ahead and take, you only live twice and put it at the bottom. Yeah, I mean... And then put some others underneath that. Yeah, it's really...
Starting point is 01:27:38 Sometimes your disguises aren't great. Just send someone else. But that disguise is not great just because of its insensitivity. Also, just practically, it's so bad. There's, like, no attempt to do anything but be terrible. Yeah. Yeah, sir, you're also a hero for that. You understand, you know, time and its place, and your wife, you said?
Starting point is 01:28:06 Girlfriend. Make it the wife, because she lets you go to Pits of Gloria and, I mean, you didn't exactly podcast in a bathroom, but yeah. So we did listen to it before we went. Did she tolerate the podcast? She tolerated it. The question I was going to ask is if you went to and did something similar
Starting point is 01:28:27 to any other filming location, where would you want to go? I think for me the answer now is it would be golden eye. You want to go up to the satellite? I think we could get there.
Starting point is 01:28:42 then I want to go to the moon If we just If we just grab a moon raker We can get off before I'm joining Space Force No but if I think that like If we were to do like Some big sort of trip
Starting point is 01:28:55 Podcast related I think going to Jamaica Going to Golden Eye Especially now that it has Now that it will be appearing in Right The next James Bond film I feel like this
Starting point is 01:29:08 That just screams Tax deduction it does I guess that's probably our time, right? Yeah, I think that's it. I wish we could... Oh shit. Wow, we've filled the whole fucking time. I'm so sorry. Slash, you guys have been
Starting point is 01:29:25 amazing. You really have. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you for sitting with us on a Sunday afternoon. It is very fun to do this. I wish we could do it all day. I can't help but think if the football game wasn't happening, it'd be the same amount of people. Yeah, I think that's fair. Thank you guys so much.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Have a lovely rest of your day here at Cobb's Comedy Club. And I believe it is fair to say, Matt, that James Bonding will return. Thank you.

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