James Bonding - Live from SF Sketchfest 2020!
Episode Date: December 4, 2024James Bonding goes to San Francisco Sketchfest, deep in the heart of A View To A Kill territory. Matt and Matt discuss the latest No Time To Die news and then get on to ranking the titles, just the ti...tles, of the Bond films. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Matt and, Matt and, Matt and, James Bonding podcast.
Hello, listeners, this is Matt Goorley.
This episode of James Bonding was recorded on the 19th of January, 2020, at San Francisco SketchFest.
The audio quality ended up being not very good when we received it, but we put it together, we did a little doctoring, and we got it in decent shape.
So, if you hear a little hissing here and there, it could have been a lot worse.
Please enjoy.
Everybody.
Thanks guys for not watching football and joining us today.
Go Niners or something.
Well, speaking of San Francisco, we are in the home of A View to a Kill,
and I think we should start by celebrating that.
I was thinking about this on the way here that...
When aren't you thinking about a View to a Kill?
That's true. I'd say 90% of the time.
And that's not just what I'm doing.
I actually schedule that in the day to have 90% of my day.
So like some people meditate, you build in time,
in your day to think about
view to a kill.
Yeah.
I was thinking about how
Max Zorn
fell off the Golden Gate Bridge.
This is going to get a little
macabre.
But I was watching this morning
in the hotel I woke up and put on that.
I think it's the Sunday
Today show with Jane Polly.
I forget.
It's the one that's like all human interest stories.
And they were interviewing
a guy who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge
when he was like 19, but he survived.
And it made me think
Max Zorin could still be out there.
He could walk in here
today.
Whoa.
Sorry.
What?
I'm going to have a sip.
Okay.
Back.
So here's the thing.
I think he did survive.
Okay.
Okay.
And I think he started Facebook.
Yeah.
And then he was like, oh, my plan was so terrible where I wanted to destroy all the manufacturing,
but none of the manufacturing actually happens here.
Usually happens in China.
He wanted to destroy the assembly line.
Yeah, which was a terrible plan because none of the manufacturing.
is actually happening in Silicon Valley.
Even if he died, though, you could drag
the bay, and I feel like
the villain in this new film, who's all
into genetics, could clone and have a little
army of Zorans.
Like three-foot-tall Zorans?
Yeah. But fully grown men, but they're
three-foot-tall. I figured out cloning, I just
can't make them tall.
The point is,
how are you guys?
I think they're all delighted. Are we all James Bond
fans here? Yes.
Are you excited about
about the new movie or what?
Yeah.
We put on the trailer here
when we were setting up this video
and I just about wet my pants.
He did say,
hang on, I'm going to start it over
because now I want to watch it
and we stood right here
and watched the screen.
Yeah.
Look, I think I'm excited about it.
It's weird because it's like this whole thing
where I have to,
we have to like make peace with Daniel Craig
riding off into set sunset.
I know.
People sign.
I don't think he's going to do.
I don't think he's going to die because it's clear from the title.
He has no time for it.
The movie's a minute long.
There's a rumor floating about the current cut is 310.
I heard that.
Yeah, in fact, let's segue into Bond 25 News.
I'm happy to do that.
So here we go, guys.
We've gone through multiple directors, multiple screenwriters.
Still, we will never be able to do the forensic deep dive on the script
to figure out if Purvis and Waiter is terrible as we think they are.
Or don't think they are.
Or don't think they are.
I'm more on the side of maybe they were never the problem.
And I have no evidence.
Yeah.
But, like, they were mainly the guys who did your least favorites, you know.
That's true.
Your Pierce Brosnan's.
Yeah.
May he rest in peace.
He's still with us.
Do you see him at the Golden Gloves with his full-on KFC beard and mustache?
Look, say what you will about his Bond movies.
I love the man and he's an amazing looking fellow.
He's probably the most handsome of all bonds,
if I had to take an audience of the vote of myself.
Yes, he is the most fan.
Is he the most handsome of all James Bond?
Conventionally handsome, do you think?
Okay, there's a smattering of applause.
Well, I mean, if we're talking like rugged handsome,
you've got your Conneries and your Craigs.
If you've got your conventionally pretty,
it's Brosnan and Moore.
And then what do you got your Lays and Bees and Dalton's in the middle?
Just to round it out.
You got to bridge the gap.
the gaps up your L&Bs I think that's where it is in the middle you're LLBs LLBs LLB in guys let's think about it done okay so three hours and 10 minutes I hope they do you think I hope it I hope that's just like do you think there's any possible way it releases anywhere close to that no longest running time right now we have is Cuantu Solis correct no that's the shortest oh I met Cazale right it's the longest two I think two two
Something. The movie that feels like
it's two movies and should have been cut in half.
I mean, if you're not being generous.
I'm not. I love the movie,
but it feels very long.
This one, I don't want them to wind up cutting
so much stuff out of this movie that it feels
like Rise of Skywalker.
Right. Where they rushed two movies
into one. Yeah. Where you're watching someone play a
video game and they're skipping the cutscenes.
I'm sorry.
I'm just watching Lady Tin Soldiers
right now.
On the screen.
So, you know, three hours and ten minutes, it's a little worrisome that there is that much script.
But most movies kind of get that version on their first cut, I think.
Most of these franchise movies.
I mean, if you're throwing everything in, I'm hoping it's like you're two and a half,
and then you cut it down to two ten.
I don't know why it's specific like that in my head, but that's what I'm hoping it is.
Is your problem too much bomb?
Maybe.
Well, I just don't want it to be, like, plotting, like, boring sort of,
Like, I like shoe leather.
I've been watching a lot of 70s espionage crime thrillers, and they are so slow, and I'm just along for the ride.
At some point, like, a gunfight will happen, and I'll be like, whoa, slow it down.
We don't know enough about these people.
If you took a 70s, your standard 70s thriller kind of thing and cut out all the scenes of people walking in and out of doors.
Oh, it'd be a commercial.
It'd be a four and a half minutes long.
Yeah.
It'd be an action-packed commercial.
I watched this movie called St. Ives with Charles Bronson, and there's just driving.
Just driving, not even in a classic car.
I mean, there is that, too, but it's just...
Do they keep cutting to the gas gauge?
I'm telling you.
Like, well, it's on the radio.
Let's get a close-up on the upholstery.
Yeah, I just don't...
I don't know if a three-and-a-half-hour...
Someone was saying something about them cutting it into two,
which has never been done, or I'd...
You've heard that rumor?
I saw it.
It doesn't mean I've...
I mean, it's just someone tweets something at you,
and then all of a sudden I've heard that rumor.
It's true, then.
That's how rumors start.
That's how news happens in voting now.
But, like, I think that the idea of a two-part...
What do you think of that?
What if they did that?
I'd love it.
Then we'd get an extra Daniel Craig movie.
I mean, I think any time you do split those...
The last Harry Potter did that in the Hunger Games,
they're not great, right?
That's not a great result, probably.
Does it feel like just too much padding it out to make it?
Yeah, and maybe a little self-important.
The greatest example is The Hobbit, which should A not have existed and B, shouldn't have been nine movies.
Yeah.
Or a hundred.
How many movies was it?
It was a hundred.
Yeah, it felt like a hundred movies.
Yeah.
Although if there's a big scene at MI6 where they're all eaten sloppily, I'll watch it, singing a song.
I thought you could say that they're all eating sloppy joes.
Wood watch, ten out of ten.
Just imagine Ray finds M just pulling a bit.
about. First he'd flop his tie over his shoulder.
Take his braces off.
Oh, that man doesn't need a brace to remind him how to stand up straight.
No, his suspenders.
No, he's a human back brace.
His posture is incredible.
He is like, if that's how you level walls in England, you get Ray Fines to stand in.
He's perfectly plumb.
I saw someone commenting on the trailer that Ray Fines kind of looked like he had a
punch.
but, and believe me, I've looked at this shot.
Freeze frame it.
He does not.
His hand is hiding the fact that his, like, back has such a,
he's like a human question mark, but somehow very straight.
I have this problem, too.
My back really curves in, and it makes me look like I have a gut sometimes,
and I do not.
I do.
I do.
I do.
Okay, so if it's, I also want to figure out, like,
I'm very excited about Phoebe Waller Bridge doing this last pass.
on the script.
Yeah.
Three people are also excited.
I think everybody's probably pretty excited about that.
That's a great question.
A round of applause.
Who's excited about that?
That's truly thrilling to me
because, you know,
loving what she's making these days
and some touch of that coming to the Bond universe,
I think, is...
Season two of Fleabegg is so fucking good.
Yeah.
That I just...
I want, you know, what was his name?
What was the guy who...
I just keep calling him Moriardi?
Oh, you mean C, yeah.
Like if he somehow survived that fall,
uh, well, Zoran did.
And then was back in it. And like when he survived the fall,
he decided to turn to God and then became a priest.
And then went to World War I.
How many bond villains could still be alive?
Because Zorn could, uh, Georgi from living daylights could,
we never saw him die.
Yeah. Um, and I think that, you know,
the whole Zorn thing, too, is like,
If you do, there's a, like, 8% chance you survive that fall, right?
80%?
8.
Oh, 8.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, definitely, that's science.
But he's also, he's also not jumping from the railing.
He's falling from the blimp.
He's almost double.
Which is, like, double the height.
So probably chances go down after there.
Well, maybe he somehow, like, the wind swayed him back onto that sweeping pipe,
and he just slid down.
Grace Jonesfully.
Yeah.
And then he just hitchhiked to Modesto.
I mean, this is all part of my larger theory of the Mrs. Dau-Fire view to a kill-shared universe.
And that's a solid theory.
Yeah.
I mean, the whole time, I think Bond is, he's undercover as Stu, you know, from Mrs. Dau-Fire.
Does the rock factor into that same universe?
Well, the rock, of course, does, I think the rock is its own sort of James Bond gold-finger-shared universe.
So that's not in the Miss Dau-Fire universe.
No.
No, you got to specifically.
You can only have two shared universe
San Francisco movies at a time.
What about Bullet?
Bullet is in the Sierra Universe
as the Rock, weirdly.
Can I speak to you off-stage?
The thing about
Vito Kill, we were talking
about this aggregate
rating that you found
online. If you haven't heard,
it's not news, but
someone aggregated
the ranking scores of
IMDB for all the bonds.
IMDB, Rotten Tomato's critics,
rotten tomatoes audience,
and then put the final definitive ranking.
Yes.
So, according to that ranking,
the worst James Bond movie is
a view to a kill.
Not including 67 Casino Royale.
Right.
So that's how you know this ranking is false
and we're living in a post-fact reality.
Right, yeah.
But it's just like, to me,
it's like how bad could critics have thought that movie
was when it came out. Really bad.
But like, is it
inherently terrible? Are we
clouded by our love of Roger Moore?
Maybe, but it's actually good that we're here
because does it
color your opinion of the movie that it takes place in
many of your hometowns? I mean, I'm assuming
most of you live here. Does that
give you a special pride for this film?
No, I'm thinking a lot of heads
shaking. No. If a James Bond movie
took place in Whittier, I'd be all
over it. Like,
they go to Nixon's old childhood home.
Oh man,
Bond 26.
The people that are shaking your heads,
do you like the movie?
Yeah.
But the fact that it takes place
doesn't help.
Like, for me...
But doesn't?
You don't like seeing your city hall
and the...
Apparently not.
What's your big bridge called?
What's your big bridge called?
Just kidding.
The,
you know, if there was
a way to sort of categorically
impartially rate Roger Moore movies,
which I cannot divorce myself from my love of the cornyness of more.
I can't either. I don't. I don't know where he would stand
in sort of the annals of bond history. I do feel like
that objectively, they're not good.
But I feel... I think the only people that really...
As a group, this is generalizing.
Is probably Generation X because he was our bond when
we grew up. But are you technically a
millennial or a generation? I am technically a millennial
according to charts on the internet.
Yeah, but I was, as I've always said,
I was born 40, so I'm probably a boomer.
But I think people before him
that had Connery don't appreciate him
probably understandably, and people after him...
I mean, look at the way he rises into the credits.
It's incredible. Just like...
How is he see-through? No animation whatsoever.
They just like, it's like they have a clear slide
and they just lifted it in a month into the camera.
100% what it is.
Roger, can we get you for the credits?
No, do you?
But he's so, and he did, let's see,
he's done the most movies, he no longer has the longest tenure
that now belongs to Daniel Craig.
And I think, you know,
had the writer's strike not happened in 2008,
I think we would have had at least one more James Bond movie
from Daniel Craig than we currently have.
Oh, you don't think that even though it would have happened
in a shorter amount of time, he wouldn't have,
I think he still would have quit at this number.
This number, or this,
time, this number. Really?
I do believe that, man, and that's
the truth. Okay.
I mean, he's saying now in interviews, like, he's sad
to say goodbye to it, which
makes me think
he's a human
being who changes his opinion all the time like myself.
Yeah. But I just,
I really wish he
had, I wish he
and Brosden to some extent
had gotten
better
scripts than, because he,
Sierra Royale Skyfall, which are great.
And then, you know how I feel about Tomorrow never
dies? It's fantastic.
And GoldenEye,
like, those, they have
like two really good bond movies.
And then the other stuff,
okay, look,
let's just take the, to individualize
the bonds as a franchise, right?
So let's just take the, let's just call
it the Brosnan verse
and the Craig verse.
Okay. And if you look at these,
the breadth of the work,
you're like, okay, there's two movies in there that you're like, all right.
If only those existed.
Right.
They're 50-50.
Yeah.
So, but what I wish had happened for Dan.
Craig was I wish that, I wish Spector, I wish we weren't so tricked by Spector.
When we first saw, we loved it.
Yeah.
And then we came to.
You're blaming Spector for that or us?
I think that's more on us.
Well, that's us, slack.
I mean, we just were so desperate to get Bond back.
We just want to love the Bond thing.
And I'm feeling this going in, that no matter how,
bad this movie is I'm gonna love it I don't know what to say right so you'll have like
that period of time where we're like a year and a half later we do another podcast about how
wrong we were but I I have faith in this one and I know I've said that about every single
one and I've been hurt before but this time has there been one in your memory your adult
memory sort of like let's go back to like Timothy Dalton there where you were like this is
not this one I do remember being let down by living daylights in the theater
And I think because I was, I think in junior high, I wanted some spectacle at the end that never came.
And it is kind of an anticlimactic movie, but I otherwise like it.
But where else are you going to get cello chase, you know?
You're in a case.
Just everybody just say the phrase cello chase.
You've got to steer with a strativarius.
It's a bullet hole in it.
It's really exciting stuff.
Let's get to some of this Bond 25 years about, specifically about the music.
because we've got two seemingly controversial picks,
but I'm not sure about that.
Hans Zimmer doing the score
and Billy Elish doing the song.
Now, my reaction as well, guys.
Somebody I heard to my left go,
and that's pretty much how I felt.
The Hans Zimmer thing, I'm like, why?
I kind of agree.
That's...
Did we just score the movie for that?
Bond 26.
But then you hear that Johnny Mar from the Smith
is now working with Hans Zimmer.
Which I'm into.
Get me that sweet sweet Fender Jaguar tone in there,
a little twanggy guitar happening.
We're all thinking it.
Yeah.
I'm like, that makes me.
feel a little better about it.
But also it's like, what is he,
what world
is Hans Zimmer?
Well, here's that problem is that,
are you aware of the Hans Zimmer
music factory that he
tends to score these movies, but he has these
kind of protogees.
Did they do that song Everybody Dance now?
Han Zimmer music factory.
Temperature rise.
What do you know.
He has this
like, I believe it's just a
commune underground or something, I don't know.
And he gets these jobs
and he'll write kind of like a theme,
like one kind of piece of music
and then these other people take it away,
kind of like Edison's invention factory
or James Patterson novels or something.
It's more of a brand than him doing it.
So it kind of rests more on,
I think they've named who he's collaborating with,
but he just seems to have this college or like a cult.
So do they get like credit on the thing?
I think they do.
Okay.
And he's doing like,
six or seven movies this year.
Hans Zimmer.
He's now a
brand or a corporation.
So I wonder
what it'll be. But I still
trust that Carrie Fuganag is going to
lead this in the right direction.
And that's why I trust his pick of Billy Elish, too.
I think his movie,
I think they probably would have gone
with someone that fits the movie. I hope.
I like her. Her voice is great.
And I just, like, her, but her songs,
we were listening to some upstairs, and it
just, it feels like,
we're going to run into like a problem where they don't ever get a chorus going.
But don't you think she's not tasked with writing a bond song until now?
She was, and her brother Phineas were writing these songs that they wanted to write.
I'm sure she's probably aware of what a bond song kind of may need to be.
But then again, maybe we get the 2020 version of all-time high,
and that itself will be an all-time high.
I was saying to Matt that the opening credits will just be a bunch of like aesthetic.
It'll just be clocks and gravestones.
There'll just be no time to die.
They'll just take it very literally.
A red circle with a slash through it.
Yeah.
How do you guys feel about, first of all, Zimmer?
Do you want to go, yay, or...
Okay, so three to seven yeas,
followed by a bunch of...
And how about Billy Eilish?
Whoa, I heard one yay.
That's interesting.
That was kind of, yeah, more down than I would have.
won't be worse than Sam Smith's song.
Yeah, I don't think so. I think you're right.
Which is like, I just, that's a,
that is
a lull me to sleep.
I need a horn section in a James Bond film.
I think you're right. Or like some, yeah,
some punching strings or something.
Or some alpine horns.
Or like a voice that will
fucking crescendo into like
Adele Shirley Bassie territory of like,
hi, James Bond's here.
We're never going to beat Skyfall in our time, I don't think.
as a song.
In our living time?
Well, just in, yeah, in this era of Bond.
I don't know how.
It was the right sort of like mix of things at the time, too.
And I think that the Academy chose right when they gave her the Oscar.
And I think that the Oscar should have gone to every James Bond movie ever for song.
Wait, did she get the Oscar?
She did, yeah.
Oh, I remember correctly.
That might have been a fever dream.
But Sam Smith did too, right?
Am I making the thing up?
Did Sam Smith get the?
No, he got the Golden Globe, I think.
Yeah, thanks other guy who watched the Globes that year.
But I think it's like, with the Billy,
you just sort of like, I know you felt about Jack White.
Yeah.
With that Jack White, Alicia Keys,
collabo for Quantum of Salas.
And, like, I know how you feel about the Cheryl Crow song
and just sort of like,
but the whole idea of like picking the pop star of the moment.
Yeah.
Which has been happening since.
Nancy Sinatra.
Matt Monroe, really.
from Russia with love
he was sort of like
in the Sinatra school of
popularity
it's something they do and it's something
that we're always going to have to be okay with
and occasionally they'll select Madonna
to make the worst song I've ever heard in my life
is it even a song
it might just be a tone of...
Sigmund Freud. Yeah
Sigmund Freud
Analyze that
Wait, it's Analyze This but I'm doing the sequel
Yeah, it's the sequel to die
She was sitting in an office
And someone had a copy of Analyze This on the desk
The DVD
It was just the DVD
She was like, Analyze this
And she turned and saw an episode of Frasier
Shrek 2
The first cut
Well, are you guys hopeful
About No Time to Die?
Good, that's what I like to hear.
I mean, I'm hopeful too, but I've been hopeful about a lot of varying large franchises lately
that have let me down to similar degrees.
I think I objectively can say that I like the No Time to Die trailer better than the Specter trailer.
Yes.
So I don't know if that means anything.
Zoran.
Zoran.
Oh, no, he's three feet tall.
Oh, no, he's just far away.
Oh, baby Zorin.
A little bleached
A blonde child
Have you guys ever seen the movie The Brood?
That's basically a bunch of little
Zorans walking around
in onesie, baby onesies.
I think that the idea of a James Bond movie
coming out in 2020
with practical bullet squibs
Yeah, did you notice? And this is big for me.
This is big.
When James Bond does that
Ashton Martin minigun shoot out in a circle,
those aren't digital squibs?
Are you guys telling your family?
Have you put out a newsletter?
Would you say that your wigdar is higher than your squibdar or are they equal?
Oh, they're pretty equal both in quality and just how they sound.
Squibdar, wigdar.
Yeah, my squibdar, I think, is maybe even better than my wig dar.
Whoa.
Yeah.
And that's very impressive.
Yeah, I just have an eye for it.
It's a gift.
What's ridiculous to me is like, I just, like, it seems like from the trailer,
it seems like James Bond is like retired, living at golden eye.
Something like it.
Right.
I don't think golden eye exists in that universe.
Right.
But his house is golden eye.
It seems, right?
And I just want to know what, like, is it the kind of thing where, like, you can buy government equipment at some sort of auction where he's like, I love that Aston Martin.
I'm going to go buy it and have it.
Well, we're going to find out.
I don't think they're going to cover that part of it.
That's what the first hour is about.
That's why it's three hours long.
The first hour is about James Bond's retirement and financial.
Windfalls. I would love to see it.
The first 15 minutes, he's on Vanguard just getting an IRA.
It's just him clearing out.
He's just selling all the stock he's purchased over the years.
And I'm there.
Do you ever think he goes in and is like,
I'm going to go ahead and short Zoran?
Because I know I'm about to throw him off a bridge.
Like, do you think he's playing the market like that?
I hope so.
If you're smart, that's not insider trading, right?
That's something.
what's next on this subject here?
Well, we've got a little ranking plan for you here today
because we like to do rankings occasionally.
You can play along in the audience,
and you can play along in your mind.
We decided to rank something that became kind of difficult
to rank in a good way.
We thought we would rank the effectiveness,
effectiveness, effectivity?
I just think it's the overall quality
in relation to what the movie is.
Of the titles themselves.
Yeah, pretty profound.
You know one's excited except me.
I'm pretty excited.
But, you know, how good they stand on their own?
How good they relate to the films, that kind of thing?
We're just going to blaze through this a little bit, so we won't bore you with it all day.
Unless you want to just stick around after the show and we could just talk about it for hours.
We'll be outside talking about it.
So please come.
So, okay, so here's how we sort of did this.
We sort of each wrote down.
Matt brought a spreadsheet out.
This spreadsheet gets in applause break.
This is the kind of work that I feel like happens a lot in Ray Fines' MI6.
Well, that's the nicest thing everyone's ever soaked in me.
So I, but there's a couple ways to look at this ranking in regards to like quality versus
I just want to like, I want to know what it is sort of from the title.
Yeah, and some of them are Fleming, some of them are not.
Some of them, you just get a good feeling in your gut.
Some of them you're like, that's unwieldy.
Right.
Yeah, some of them are reaching and grasping.
Some are puns on popular phrases like live and let die, or you only live twice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So would you like to start at the top or bottom?
Oh, we've got to start at the bottom.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm happy to do this right now.
Okay.
Now.
You go first.
Matt.
Yeah.
At the very bottom of this title situation.
Yeah.
I have somewhat unsurprisingly or surprisingly.
I've placed Golden Eye there.
Okay, yeah.
He's not into that.
No, I'm absolutely.
I'm just processing it.
We explain our opinions when we both have said it?
Yes, that's right.
Your classic James Bonding ranking.
Yeah.
So I put Golden Eye at number 25.
And I have Die Another Day.
Oh, interesting.
I'm trying not to let the films influence me.
Okay, what's your number 24?
Die another day.
Let's talk. Die another day.
Yes, one person clap for that title.
Here's the problem with die another day.
Yeah.
What does it mean?
Exactly.
Exactly. Also, not long off the heels of tomorrow never dies,
so die another day could kind of be tomorrow.
it just feels like a vague, empty repeat.
Is it like, oh, I can't do this Thursday, but on Friday I'm good to die?
Yeah, I will die.
Yeah, yeah.
And next week is fine.
I just, today, I can't.
I'm doing my Vanguard IRA.
Which also feels like he might not have time to die even then.
I know, and that's, we'll get to it.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
All right.
Now, this may surprise you guys, but my mind.
24 is a view to a kill.
Whoa.
That does surprise me.
And once again, these are opinions.
They're facts, because
we're the preeminent source for facts
of James Bond podcast hosted by two guys named Matt.
I just find it unwieldy.
A view to a kill
sounds like it's a pun or like a reference to something.
We can't open the floor for discussion.
Oh my God, you're so right. I do apologize to
everyone.
Moonraker.
What?
Yeah.
Are you telling me we're sending someone
to rake the moon?
Are you telling me there's a guy
whose job it is to rake the moon?
No, I'm not telling you any of that, but I'll hold it.
And we're not talking about that one for a while.
Oh, no.
This is interesting.
I feel like we have very different opinions
of James Bond movie titles.
And that's what I love about this.
My 23 is Tomorrow Never Dies.
That's going to be a long wait.
Now, look.
I'm not going to go in an explanation, but I will say that I don't want you to think I have biased because I don't like that movie.
This is the highest this movie has ever scored on a list.
Ladies and gentlemen, it may be a surprise.
Specter.
I'm going to rank that at 22, and we'll talk about that when it comes up.
Okay.
I'm glad you're writing this down when I've taken the time to put it up here.
Yeah, I know.
That's so everybody can see.
This is just so I know what I'm saying versus what I haven't said.
My 22 is Quantum of Solis.
Whoa! Yes, sir!
Did I offend you?
You did. I don't think he's going to come back.
That's interesting.
I am taking individual meetings with people after the show and we go through all this.
My 21 is the man with a golden gun.
Yeah.
Again, people are surprised.
and right. This is probably the most shocking
if I was a YouTube thumbnail,
I would be like... Just imagine how people in the audience right now are like
tweeting this out and it's going viral.
This is just a controversy of all this.
Upwards of no likes and one retweet.
Yeah. Okay. Now just remember
these are not a reflection on the film, but my
number 21 is Casino Royale.
Oh. My number... I know. I'm letting some people.
My number 20 is Casino Royale.
Let's talk. Yes.
casino route.
So for me, it feels like naming a movie.
A scene heading.
Sears.
It's a little more exciting.
Yeah, but Sears has
appliances.
You've got a sporting good section.
It's more like calling it raging waters.
No, it's like if you made it today,
it would be called the Bellagio.
Yeah.
Which is like, I'm with me.
I don't want to, as much as I like gambling.
I don't need to go see a movie named after a specific casino.
I'm giving this a little, like, I think it would have been a little lower on my list
if it wasn't the first bond and there wasn't an established way to do a title.
So this kind of gets grandfathered in before he really gets into those more thrilling-sounding titles.
I find that it's the, like, it seems to me like it's the,
hire the word count for me, I find, like, there's a ranking situation that I developed
that I did not understand until I looked at.
I took a step back Kaiser Sose style.
I was like, holy shit, if it all makes sense.
So Casino Royale, I just think is like blah.
It's kind of baseline.
Yeah, it's like blah.
Neither bad nor good.
It just, I don't feel anything when I read the title on its own.
I do only because what I feel about the movie,
but when I think of the title by itself, it doesn't do much.
Let's talk about number 19.
Wait, how about, yeah, go ahead.
Thunderball.
It's thrilling
At first blush
We'll get into it
Sorry
I'm just so excited
We're getting to get into it very
Very
Very shortly
That was a mistake
But I'm leaving it
Thunder blush
That would rank higher
Than Thunderball for me
I want Bond to say something
Sultry to a woman
She turns red and he goes
You've been Thunderbush
Then he hits some sort of button
And he's ziplined out of there
you've been thunderblush
so number 19
for me is Thunderball
oh let's talk
so let's talk about Thunderball
what the fuck is Thunderball
yeah so it's a code
right it's like I get
it is yeah Thunderball is like
the code name for something
I don't know it's like if they
but it's like if they called
Goldfinger Operation Grand Slam
it's golden eye
it's the same same idea as GoldenE
but it seems a little too on the nose
for a military coat name.
It is nonsensical.
It's, again, nonsensical.
I don't know what I'm looking at.
Made all the more nonsensical when you hear
the Johnny Cass version of this song, too.
Just to hear him singing about Thunderball
is just too many times remember.
It sounds like a side effect of syphilis.
His song or just the word?
The word.
What are your symptoms?
I've got thunderballs.
It burns when I pee.
Oh, God.
All right.
Oh, I've made a mistake.
Oh, no.
Oh, my God.
Did we talk about something too soon?
Yeah.
No, I just, hold on.
I'm going to do a little editing.
Of the spreadsheet, live on the podcast.
For those of you at home, Matt has clicked into a certain cell,
and he's currently moving the cursor and changing a letter.
So, just so everyone at home knows what's happening.
My actual number 21 is no time to die.
Oh.
I got that squeezed in here.
Then my next one's Casino Royale, then Thunderbrush.
Well, guess what?
No Time to Die.
Here it is.
We're talking about it.
Number 18 for me, no time to die.
Well, this one also, I'm reserving a little room for judgment when you see the movie
because it could be very relevant or it could be very generic like Die Another Day.
Think about how Die Another Day really has very little to do with the movie itself.
Well, I mean, if you think about the movie in premise, right, he is sort of captured at the very
beginning in the cold open and then sort of left for dead.
It should be like no time to have scorpion sting me.
Or no time to grow a beard or no time.
Or no time to grow a beard.
So we're going to have to put this terrible fake beard on you.
How's your beard wig dar?
Oh, it's through the roof.
Floss.
Through the roof.
Yeah.
Bearddar wigdar is so easy because you can often catch the little glisten of the mesh net or something.
Oh.
It'll look for it, is there?
He also in that movie
so lazily slips into his Irish accent
So many times
It's like he knows that the franchise gave up on him
So he gave up on the franchise at the same time
Yeah, it's like he's in a long relationship
Loveless relationship like in the story Quantum of Salas
There's no quantum of solace between Brosnan and the film
Yeah
That was a pretty good one
He was done wrong
Yeah that's fair
I miss him
Okay, my number 18 is octopusy.
Wow.
You don't have to agree.
It's helpful if you do.
We'll talk about it.
All right, so 18, so we're now at the 17.
Octopussy.
Okay.
I bumped this up.
Again, I think my wife has octopusy because I have thunderballs.
Well, you better have 16 thunderballs.
Doctor, what did we get to take care of this?
You drove all the way up here for that.
No.
Yes.
I bumped this one higher because on its face,
Octopusy is not a good title,
but it's so bold and such an outlier
that I really appreciate the balls on Octopussy.
Ironically.
I hear it no other way than Octopussy.
Yeah.
Like in my head.
Octopussy
Octopussy
And then I think of him eating an eyeball
That is a good time
Yeah
What do you mean what
Have you seen the film?
Okay you remember he eats an eyeball
That eyeball and the noise he makes
And the way he purses his lips
Because I saw that movie so much as a kid
It's with me in just a harrowing way
It's like the Temple of Doom monkey brains
Yeah and they came out virtually the same time
Yeah
And it was like hey do you want to
I want to do a James Bond
movie. Big year for... Well, you can't.
Eat and gross things. Fine. I'll put
something grosser than a goat's eyeball
in my movie.
So, yeah, Octopus,
again, it's another one of these sort of, like,
what is this? I don't understand.
Not a great title.
I'm just like, I want to have, I want to be like,
it's a great marketing title. I feel like people are like,
let's go see that. Yeah.
James Bond's in a movie. About eight pussies.
Can you believe what they did?
Yeah. I remember the
talk of, that was the talk of the town.
Tee-hee. All right, my next one is
Golden Eye.
Other than the meta
Ian Fleming reference,
it's just the name of a satellite,
kind of like Thunderball.
We're listening to the theme song
up in the break room,
and it has lyrics like,
you watched me in the shadows as a child,
and she's calling someone GoldenEye,
and it doesn't make any sense.
So I'm pitching that perhaps
the theme song is from the point of view of the satellite.
Why didn't they just use the Dave Matthews
song, Satellite?
You'd like that.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Satellite in my high.
Golden High in my eyes
like a time and in...
We should be doctors on all these movies.
Come and fix them up.
But Golden Eye, yeah, really.
It's like if you look at the lyrics of the...
Actually, you know what?
Fine. Here.
I'm going to look at the...
I'm going to tell you the lyrics of Golden Eye.
I should do dramatic readings of every James Bond lyric.
Yeah.
Weird reaction
I did not anticipate that, guys.
Tune into Stitcher Premium.
Use the promo code bonding.
And I will get to that.
So let me just...
I think you do that live,
but they project a background
and you're in silhouette,
just like a bond title.
And please, no one...
No one clap.
I just want snaps, guys.
I want it to be like
I'm a real slam poet here.
Do you guys have some praise?
Okay, so here we go.
Ready?
Here's the Tina Turner goal
that I written by Bono in the end.
edge. And lyrics as well?
I believe so. Okay.
Wait, real quick. Let me crack
open a liquid death for this.
All right. It's water, guys.
It is. This is weird. It's just
water. Okay, so here we go.
See reflections on the
water, more than
darkness in its depths.
Okay.
See him surface in every shadow
on the wind.
I feel his breath.
Oh.
Gold and I
I found his weakness
Golden I
He'll do what I please
Golden I
No time for sweetness
But a bitter kiss
Will bring him to his knees
They so clearly wrote this
Having never read the script
Or seen a movie
Here we go
And then we kick into the real
You'll never know
how I watched you from the shadows as a child.
This song is a soul.
You'll never know how it feels to be the one who's left behind.
Now again, I feel like this is the satellite saying,
I've been watching you from up here,
and you left me in space.
I'm golden eye.
When the person is whoever, the satellite,
the person is watching someone in the shadows,
are they the child, or is the person in the shadows the child?
I believe that it was baby golden eye.
I think it was like a year after the satellite launched.
So it's a smaller satellite that has yet to grow.
It had yet to grow into a giant EMP.
Okay, now it's making sense.
Okay, so you'll never know the days and the nights,
because it's in space, it has no day and night, right?
Right.
That's why I think it's about the satellite.
The tears that I've cried, leaking hydraulic fluid.
But now my time has come,
and time
time is not on your side
see him move
through smoke and mirrors
feel his presence
in the crowd
again if you're being surveilled by the satellite
you'll be like I'm watching me
other girls
this is a better Spectre theme song
like the surveillance
it is shadows and other girls they gather
around him
if I had him I wouldn't let him out
then it gets extra
confusing. Golden
Eye, not lace or leather.
Suddenly a Stevie
Nick's song.
Golden Chain
take him to the spot.
What?
Golden I'll show him forever.
I'll take forever
to see what I've got.
Nonsense.
They put words in a bowl
and took turns taking them out.
This really explains that
Spider-Man musical they did.
There were signs.
Yeah.
It was like we should have really looked
into their lyrics for James Bond.
You'll never know how I watched you.
Okay, we're back to that.
And then here we go.
With a golden eye, golden,
comma, golden eye,
with a golden eye.
Golden eye, golden.
So, what?
This move, this song's upsetting.
So the next time you all listen to it,
remember, it's terrible.
All right.
I can't wait to pull more lyrics up.
Okay, so we are now at what number, Matt?
16.
16.
Let's take a look.
I'm going to go over to this.
Yes.
Okay.
No time to die.
We've talked to quantum of solace is there for me.
All right.
Now, some of you are like, why?
Why this high or why this low?
Where do you guys fall on this?
High.
Do you think quantum of solacell is the higher ranked?
That's interesting because publicly or like in the mainstream, it's reviled as a title, I think, generally.
What mainstream are you watching where they're discussing this?
Oh, Fox News.
That's where I get all my Bond 25 news.
They love Billy Elish on there.
Are we in for another Quantum of Solace?
Tune in.
Has your Quantum been Salist?
Quantum of Salis, the only reason I sort of rank it where it is is because, like, didn't they have trouble translating this title?
into other languages.
It just also, I mean,
if you look at it as like
just as a pile of words,
which it is.
It is.
It's like, it's interesting.
I don't want to sit and look at a title
where I have to go,
is that about the emotional depth
of being James Bond
and how little piece you find?
Can I get in on that?
Yeah, go ahead.
I think you're right,
and they tie it to the movie
in the sense that the organization is called
quantum, but I think that there was reason
in this movie for there to be
the discussion about what
quantum of solace is in the novel, about how
a relationship loses all of its respect
for each other. And if they had
something like that in the movie to also
tie it to that, and someone
mentioned that's what a quantum of solace
is, I don't need it to be that much on the nose,
but it would have been, I think, served it
a lot better. Otherwise, it doesn't feel like it
connects to the movie. It's almost like
you need the quantum
reveal happening
in Casino
Royale. Yeah.
And that feels like a better title
for the emotional stakes of that movie.
This movie, which I think is
visually, I think it's one of the more
aesthetically pleasing.
Yeah, you know I really like this movie.
Yeah, I know how much you like Earth,
fire, water, and wind.
I love elements. Not to mention heart.
Yeah.
Go planet.
I think that... I think that
but the title itself, again, I'm looking at the
spines of all of these. And I'm just like, we only went 25, right? We didn't put never say never again in there.
No. We can do an honorable mention. Should we discuss never say never again and sort of in the middle?
Or at the end and we'll say where we put it. Okay. So by Cuondrosals again, I just feel like it's like I don't want to have to think too much about
what a title is. This is a very baseline ranking. Yeah, I get you. I am glad to hear that you guys like you guys like you guys like it so much. That does make me feel like I could bump it up out of pressure.
Okay.
You guys are really pressuring Matt.
Now, here we go.
This is something that...
Wait, it's my turn.
Okay, go ahead.
17.
17, 18 for you.
We're still on 18.
I see some words being written.
You ready?
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I don't care for this.
I don't like what's happening here.
Look, we're into the period where I like these titles.
I like this title.
It's just, and I love that it's connected to his title.
It's just...
his family crest and his motto and all that.
Yeah.
But hang on, we'll talk about it.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
We'll talk about it.
Now, so that was, so we're at number 15 for us here.
Dr. No.
Hmm.
Yeah, I'm with the crowd there.
The crowd did not care for that, nor did Matt Goreley.
Yeah.
Oh, Dr. Knopp.
Higher.
I rank that higher.
Dr. Knop.
What's Dr. Knop?
For me, number 15.
15 is diamonds are forever.
Interesting. Okay.
That's very interesting
because I've got a little news for you.
It's time to talk about diamonds are forever.
Whoa.
This movie, I think, we're getting into
the sort of the titles of like
your sort of like step-by-step
in IKEA instructions on how to build a James Bond title.
Even you think at this point Fleming was doing it.
Yeah, I think.
he's like, oh, this is the
Fleming. I know how to build a
Fleming novel. This is a
early Fleming novel.
This, you could say,
I don't know, it's kind of its own thing,
and it's early on. Because it goes,
Casino Real,
live and let die,
Moon Raker, Diamonds are Forever, so it's
the fourth book. Yeah, and
I'm like, Casino Royale, how do we feel
about that type? Did I get that right? Is that right?
Yeah. Casino Royale, from Russia
with Love, from Russia with Love,
Hey, hold it.
We'll hold that.
Moonraker, again, we'll talk about it
whenever the fuck you decide to put that on there.
We may never get to it. This is unbelievable because that's
23 for me.
But Diamonds Are Forever, what don't you like?
We love the movie, just as a
campy romp. Yeah. I think Diamonds Are Forever is a good title,
but it's not super Bondy
and it's more about diamonds than it is about
Bond. But is there
any sort of, like, could you look at it
like James Bond is the diamond?
I guess.
You know, he's hardened sand.
Cole, whatever.
How do you make diamonds?
He's glass?
He's glass.
The M. Knight Shyamala?
Yeah, he's unbreakable.
He's glass.
It's just more about diamonds and less about bond, you know?
Yeah.
I don't know.
But it does tie into the movie.
Yeah.
That's why, I mean, I don't hate it.
I love the song.
Doesn't hate it.
Okay.
Next for me, oh, I actually had these switched, but I'll keep it.
Yeah.
The Man with the Cold.
Golden Gun, let's talk.
Okay.
I see that and I'm like,
okay, great.
Guys, guns, gold.
Yeah, I like how...
I don't know what it is.
I like how long it is in the sense
it's like, yeah, you're going to stick around
for a full sentence here.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
The man, I'm listening.
Uh-huh.
With, oh, he's about something.
A golden...
Oh, what could it be? I don't know what it is.
Could it be a car? Is it like a bus?
Is it a pen?
Is it like maybe a...
a watch? A touch, like a midas touch?
What might it be? But that's already Goldfinger.
It's a gun. Whoa.
Oh my God. It's past my
bedtime. I gotta get home.
Yeah,
it's interesting. I like it.
It's fine. Yeah. I mean, I'm
on the above average category
already. We're in the fines. Yeah.
For you. I mean, for the gold gun for me, I feel
like, is just... This is better than fine. I'd say
this is good. Okay.
I think once you get to the top
10, you're into like, this is good.
Don't tell me how to do my own rankings.
All right.
Look, if the middle is good for you, enjoy it.
Well, I'm just saying that with all things bond,
they skew so good for me that the average is already good.
Okay.
Like, to me, that's a B-minus title.
And we're going to get into some A-plus-plus-plus.
The programming language?
I'm definitely...
Grading on the list.
curve. That's the only city this. We get a laugh in the programming.
Let me look at this. You have
beautiful chestnut eyes.
Yeah, they're gorgeous. I have noticed that
we have yet to say this following 13. I wonder if it's the same as
mine. Goldfinger. Oh, no, it's not.
This one, again, much like golden eye.
We can't. We can't. We can't talk about it.
I'm not going to talk about it.
You've committed the sin that I keep doing.
Okay, Golden Eye is...
Gold Finger has been said by me.
Matt, what is next for you?
License to kill.
Oops.
Interesting.
And wrong.
I've got reasons.
We're not going to talk about it yet, but don't judge yet.
Now, we're getting into a very tough area, guys.
Are some people talking about the spelling out there?
But we know why we're doing this.
British spelling.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
That's the title of the movie.
I'm not trying to be pedantic about it.
I don't like that there's a little red line under there either.
Believe me.
So your license to kill you have ranked at 13.
Number 12 for me is Tomorrow Never Dies.
Okay.
Now we can talk about Tomorrow Never Dies, correct?
Yeah.
Okay, you have a very, very...
Here's the thing.
I look at Tomorrow Never Dies and it's sort of the opposite sort of problem.
It's not a problem. I enjoy, this is, we're getting into the titles. I like all these titles now.
Tomorrow Never Dies for me feels like, I know that feeling.
When you're like, it's Monday.
You're like, fuck.
I hope tomorrow doesn't happen.
But since it doesn't die, it's inevitably going to happen.
So then I have to go through Tuesday.
And then it repeats all over again.
So like the fact that tomorrow, it's like the future is, like, the future is,
always going to happen.
It's like, it means that James Bond's
work is fruitless.
It's like tomorrow, I gotta do this tomorrow too.
I gotta show up to my office
and they're gonna tell me who to kill tomorrow.
It just never dies with you guys.
That's what he says.
It feels like Quantum of Solace to me
and that there's a word that ties into the movie
tomorrow is the name of the paper.
But it doesn't really have any...
It's an empty connection.
I like a meaty, metamorphosis.
media connection. You asked Elliot
Carver when his paper was going to
fold. He'd be like, never.
I'm the best media magnate in the
world. Look out China.
Here come exclusive
broadcast rights for 100
years.
Movie is so stupid.
It's so stupid.
They did nothing regarding
like, they didn't make him have like a tech
arm of his company. They didn't make
him have like a weapons manufacturing arm
of his company. He literally was
a guy who made papers and news programs.
So dumb.
All right.
Ask Roger Ailes.
See, you could be a supervillain and own a news organization.
I'm telling you.
Let's talk Goldfinger.
Okay.
What the hell is a gold finger other than his name?
It's kind of the Midas Touch thing.
So it's interesting.
It's odd, that's for sure.
Gold finger.
Let me pull up the lyrics to Goldfinger.
Now
So, applause for the way.
Okay, Goldfinger,
here's the thing. This one,
we feel like
this is a very clear,
lyrically,
it's a very clear song.
Yeah.
And it is clear off the bat
because the first line of the song
is, Goldfinger, he's the man.
I'm like, okay, it's not a satellite.
We're talking about a guy.
The man with the miters touch.
I'm like, oh, okay.
So this is all.
is relating to the gold finger situation.
A spider's touch.
Ooh, he's dangerous.
Such a cold finger.
Of course.
But gold's a pretty good heat conductor.
Internal rhyme, which is nice.
I like that as well.
Beckons you to enter his web of sin.
Keeping the metaphor.
They're not really mixing metaphors.
But don't go in, Matt.
I never even opened.
Shirley Bassi's like, hey guys,
I'm going to tell you about this guy
and give you a warning in the first verse.
Golden words.
He will pour in your ear.
I love it.
Silver tongue, but gold.
But his lies can't disguise what you fear.
For a golden girl knows when he's kissed her.
It's the kiss of death from Mr. Goldfinger.
The lyrics are unassailable.
It's perfect.
I think they're great.
I think they're great.
The title is good.
Pretty girl.
Beware of his heart of gold.
this heart is cold
yeah well he's recycling rhymes
but yeah
it's a beautiful song
yeah
that's so much better than golden eye
yeah definitely
this guy's not watching any kids from shadows
he's not a little golden boy
watching children yeah
golden eyes right up there with my name is Luca
it's just a weird
all right what's
I would love a little a little portly
12 year old gold figure
with binoculars just watching people from the shadows as a child my name is
Zorin I live in a mining shack he just he sits and watches baseball games
he's like I'd love to hit a grand slam and that because he has no physical
ability he just makes up that plan anyway Matt yeah what's next we are at
number 11 and here we go we're into this sort of like what does this mean
slash this is
even though it doesn't immediately mean anything to me
I like it. Skyfall.
Oh.
She just said that like Keanu reads.
Oh, right on.
Mine
My next one is
Specter.
Whoa. Let's talk about Specter.
Spector's a good
title. No, it's not because it isn't
meaningless. No, it's meaningful.
It's meaningful. Wait, pause.
It's meaningful.
It's the literal and metaphorical.
That's what I love in a James Bond title.
You've got the organization of Spector
and the Spector of his brother
that's been haunting him
and is the author of all his pain.
Now, I'm not defending that as a plot choice,
but as a title, it checks.
All right, Palpatine.
I did everything.
I wish all these people.
You're a big of miniature Ewach Zorans.
threat to me.
I think it's, I think it's a strong title.
A show of hands.
Show of hands. How many people here have seen Rise of Skywalker?
Holy shit.
Box office disagrees.
How many people have not seen it but would like to see it?
Oh, okay. Then I won't spoil much.
How many people have not seen it but know everything?
But know everything.
You, sir, the only person who hasn't seen it and doesn't know what happens.
That movie
We don't have time, Matt.
We have a...
This isn't like when we're at home.
We have a hard out.
We've got to get through these.
Come on.
Okay.
Save it for Star Warsing.
Again, don't worry, everyone.
It's still in the works.
It's not going to happen.
It'll happen.
I'm telling you, once this Goldberg's hiatus comes,
oh, baby.
I can't get this guy to return an email.
We've been talking about.
Yeah, but text I could return.
Some of the time.
I can't believe I'm running a spreadsheet.
That's what you were saying about it.
So here's how little I often checked my phone.
The other day, I looked at my phone and it had a, you know, I missed the call.
And then the phone, the Apple iPhone said to me,
would you like to keep receiving notifications from this app?
The phone.
That was a metaphor for me going,
would you still like to hear from your friend?
I was just like, oh, it's that bad, huh?
Yes.
All right, so we're at the top.
We're into the top ten, everybody.
That's right.
This is very exciting.
Here we go, in the top ten, for your eyes only.
Wait, we're excited about the top ten.
You feel like that should be higher in the top ten?
Well, clearly, I guess we'll find out.
All right.
My number 10 is the same as number 10.
What?
I love the people that are laughing at your spreadsheet operation.
I wrote this for your eyes list.
Oh, boy.
Oh, interesting. Okay.
Whoops.
Yeah, that's very interesting.
The spy who loved me.
I think this is a great one.
This is a great title.
The spy who listed me on his kill sheet.
That would be good.
I'd go see that movie.
Yeah.
The spy who loved me, Matt.
It's sicken.
It's staying.
No, write it down.
Oh.
What?
Oh, that's next for you?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh.
And let it auto fill into the spy who listed me.
Solid title.
It's just romantic.
You got a spy?
Is this the only title with the word spy in it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's also like, I get it.
This movie.
I know what this movie is.
It's a spy thriller.
There might be some romance.
Yeah.
Solid title.
No complaints here.
You know.
I'm on board.
You're in the top ten.
Congratulations.
You've made it.
You get a prize.
It's mine.
For your...
No.
From Russia with love.
I like it.
Yeah, you can like it.
And we'll continue when we get to it.
Yep.
Okay.
Very long from now.
Okay.
Not as long as we're.
I have moonricker at a negative 10.
Oh.
And for me now, it's the world is not enough.
Now here's the thing.
You have to take some things inherently at face value when you're going to see a James Bond
movie.
And you have to be like, okay, this, I'm going to see a movie about the greatest spy in all
the lands.
And when I see the world is not enough, and I'm like, I get this.
I think I get it.
Because I'm like, oh, this is about some crazy, wacky, bad guy who's like, the world is not enough.
I also need space.
But it's weird.
You're attributing it to the bad guy, but it's bond small.
That's the twist.
That's the M. Knight Shyamalan of the movie.
I thought this movie was one thing.
All of a sudden, it's just in his crest.
Okay.
It's one of those.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have a complaint.
Did I, you know, I found, we found the Myra family crest.
And what is it?
By integrity alone.
Oh.
Which in Latin is something longer.
But I was like, I'd watch that movie.
Do you want another gory one?
It's embarrassing because it's a little sultry.
Let's hear it can't be any more seltry than thunderballs.
Profundescendant penetrates deeply.
That's embarrassing.
penetrates deeply.
The goarly...
And then Matthew
means gift of God.
This is...
It feels...
It feels wrong.
So,
the crest,
the coat of arms
of the goarly family.
I walk around as
the gift of God
who penetrates deeply.
There are worse ways
to go around.
But there are...
There are better things
to try to live up to.
The world is not enough.
Yeah, so I have it ranked so much.
Eight.
You inflated that a little, or no?
It feels...
We also had to do this in a pinch, so...
I mean, it wasn't...
I just like the longer title for some reason.
But not the man with the golden guy.
Okay.
Okay.
Next.
Doctor No.
Okay.
We can talk about it.
Yeah.
it's just so clipped and short
like Fleming, Doctor, No.
And it's just, no, no!
Yeah.
You stop that.
This is the title.
Take two of these and call me in the morning.
Doctor, no.
Yeah.
I love it.
It's the bad guy, like Goldfinger.
It's negative.
It's kind of scary.
It's mysterious.
He's a doctor, but his name's no.
He's a doctor and a command.
I am going to start to go
a little quicker so we can actually talk to the audience.
Yeah, we want to do a tiny bit of a Q&A.
So Dr. Now, again, yes.
It's just...
Dr. No? Yes.
Dr. No and patient, yes.
Dr. No, patient, yes.
Here we go.
Live and let die.
Okay.
For me, it's...
Hold on, I got to type with one finger.
Mm-hmm.
me next is
you only live twice
yolt
yolt next for me
yeah yolt
let's talk about you only live twice
it's a good one it's kind of a pun
again longer title
higher ranked for me
I think you can see if you look actually at the spreadsheet
good visual representation of our styles
you like to really mix it up
yeah I'm like you only live twice
I thought you lived once I gotta see this movie
it's true
I think it's the novel that starts with an ancient Japanese proverb
that sounds like Fleming probably made up
that's... You only live twice once when you're born
and once when you stare death in the face, I think, is what it is.
Which is... That's pretty good.
That should have been the title.
The whole thing.
Yeah.
Well, why not make the whole title the lyrics to Golden Eye?
You'll never know how I watched you from The Shadows as a child.
I would see the movie.
Ian Fleming's, you'll never know.
how I watched you from the shadows as a child.
James Bond-O-7 in Ian Fleming.
Just an 11-year-old chain smoking Turkish cigarettes.
With a typewriter.
My number six is live and let die.
It's funny, we've got the two...
Yeah, it's sort of flipped a little bit there.
The two pun titles together, though.
Yeah.
Live and let live.
And live and let die.
Live and let die, I feel like, is just...
There's like a brutality to it that I like a lot.
And I'm going to see a gritty spy feature.
And I'm like, I know what this is going to be, I think,
you know, based just solely on the title.
It's a good title.
It's a great title.
And that's why it's ranked so highly.
Next for us, here we go, everybody.
This is.
We have a few that haven't even, we have two that haven't shown up yet.
I know.
It's amazing.
But here, I feel like one of them going to show up in a second.
On Imagisty's Secret Service.
Okay, I'm not writing that out.
Oh, H, M-S-S.
Okay, mine number five is the same.
Whoa!
We finally matched.
I swipe right.
Okay, now...
I bumbled.
On her...
On her Magic Secret Service, again.
Yes.
Yeah.
I like it.
I know what it is.
Yeah, it's not...
It doesn't tell you anything about the movie at all,
other than that's his job.
Yeah.
But it's so cool.
And I'd go watch it.
I like movies that are job titles.
Yeah.
Do you find some of these
are really hard to separate from the movies?
That's one that I just can't help
but factor the whole movie in.
Because of the music and everything.
This one I feel like this is a great title
in the sense that I feel like
they all could be titled that.
Yeah.
I know.
Except for the times when he's rogue,
which has been the last 20 movies.
Yeah.
All right.
That's Art of Magic's Secret Service.
Next up.
for me
the living daylights
whoa
TLD
totally crest drive
too long didn't
okay number four
for me
is for your eyes only
now
this is just such a classic phrase of espionage
it's just perfect
it's a perfect title
it's like the other great movie title
top secret
it's like I know
what this is going to be. It's top secret.
We're already into the A pluses for me.
I think starting with live and let die is where I'm into the A pluses.
So, yeah, but again, I think that for your eyes only is perfect.
It's beautiful. Yeah. It's like a beautiful title. Yeah. I get it. Yeah.
Now, let's see. Where are we?
Number three. Number three. Here's the problem. My hand wrote mine.
Uh, I might have missed it.
Give me your three right now, quick.
Okay, my number three is skyfall.
So let's talk about that.
Yeah, let's talk about Skyfall.
So this is a title I did not like it all when they announced it.
Because I just assumed it was like Golden Eye or Thunderball.
It was just a code word for a mission or something.
But when you find out it's his ancestral estate, oh, you're really hitting my sweet spot.
But, you know, there's also like, there's also like some panic to it.
Yeah.
You know, it's one of those ones that works on two levels.
The sky is falling.
Oh, no.
Is Golden Eye still up there?
How is he doing?
What age is he at this point?
Is he watching me?
I think it's a prerequisite for a title to have a double meaning, basically.
And all...
In the sense of like...
Honor Majesty's Secret Service doesn't really...
Right.
but for your eyes only does
where it's the kind of like spy talk
and a lover's
command
lover's command
I don't know man I'm so tired
what's your number three
I can't
I think I view to a kill
I think it's a view to a kill
is that just because you're in San Francisco
and you're just seeping into your bones
I just can't believe how
fucking opposite we are on this title
Can I tell you that whenever I come up to the city
I secretly just hope the hook and ladder is gonna drive.
With a 50-year-old man hanging off the back.
Oh, geez.
Suck in the gut, James.
I like a view to a kill because
it's just, it's sort of like poetic lyricism
of like a gun sight.
Yeah, I don't hate.
it as much as low as I have it but in the movie they really stick it in it's
nothing about the movie that's about a view they just have one throwaway line
although I guess that's the same with living daylights but the living
daylights the fact that you just like boom punt and then you're into the
fucking let's save it because I haven't even had it yet I'm still I've got a
virtual tie for one and two and I don't know what to do here oh we may have to
take an intermission
What's your number two?
I don't know where my number two are.
What happened?
You can't just...
I know what number one is.
What's left?
Hang on.
For you?
Yes.
From Russia with Love?
That's number one.
Spoilers.
Oh my God.
No time to die?
Yes.
What?
Matt.
It feels like it's number two
because the movie hasn't come out yet.
So we...
It's already up there.
Great.
Oh, okay.
Done.
Not that.
Guys, I don't know what the fuck happened.
Is it, hang on.
Is it not the Vi-Ferjibigibati?
This one?
Who someone know it?
There it is!
That was the one not mentioned.
LTK.
Here's the problem.
I wrote out the names, and then all of a sudden started doing abbreviations up here.
And then I'm like, this doesn't make.
His tablet said, do you still love me?
This is the first time you've written on me in 20 years.
You'll never know how this tablet watched me as a child.
I like Licensed to Kill.
It's pretty in the middle for me.
I like it because it tells me there's paperwork involved.
I like to, I like that, you know, you need your certification.
I imagine there's a renewal period after eight years.
What do you think of the original title?
I wonder if he keeps the same photo.
Do you like license revoked or licensed to kill?
kill better. License revoked is the sequel
to license to kill. No, it's the original title.
No, no, I know, but it just feels like I'm glad
they didn't do it because I feel like they were jumping
the Walther.
Even though that whole movie is about his license
as being revoked. Aren't they
always? Like, it feels like these
days, he's constantly having it
revoked or throwing it into the Thames.
Yeah. I need to ask the audience
for this to break my tie
between two and one. Do I go with my
heart or my brain?
Heart. Okay.
I love the voice that was used for that.
Braing!
Max Zorin?
Living Daylights is my number two.
All right. Yeah, two smattering's of applause.
That's amazing.
Are Timothy Dalton higher than we thought rankings here?
Yeah.
It's just such a good phrase.
It's got a little bit of whimsy in there, like just the daylights are alive.
Whimsy?
Whimsy?
Whimsy?
So, living daylights
is, again, partially
that's probably the
hardest one for me to separate from the movie.
Really? Yes. I love the
movie quite a bit. The Living Daylight.
And I just love the way Timothy Dolphin
says it, and I just love
that it logically
makes sense in that sentence.
I wonder what the origin of that.
I see how you get your daylight
knocked out of you but you're living daylights it's so specific and so it's weird
it's better than your dead daylights yeah or if you're golden eye you don't have
daylight you're just up in space alone watching from the shadows as a child
yeah so from Russia with love is my numero uno and this means that Matt goarly
has selected just like the moon raker goes
There is no cooler word in the English language than Moon Raker.
Moon Raker!
Thank you.
I want to name a kid Moon Raker.
If I was a Kardashian, I would.
What is a moon raker?
It's a rocket, you son of a bitch.
In the movie, it's a space shuttle.
But Moon Raker...
Moon Raker.
It means it's like...
In the 50s, when this rocket was being made,
it's so powerful it can get up to the moon
and just skim it, just rake it,
just scrape the moon.
So full thrust all the way to the moon.
1950s pretty amazing.
Once you're breaking Earth's gravity,
you're still have your fucking booster own?
This is a waste of fuel.
Not for the moon raker.
It has just copious fuel supplies.
I don't like the title
because I don't, I'm like my brains.
doesn't, it's just like, what the
fuck are we talking about it? But doesn't your
heart say... I've seen a moon golfer
thanks to the Apollo 17
crew. They played golf on the moon.
I've never seen a moon raker.
They're shoveled. They're shoveled. They've shuffled.
It's given you something you've never seen before.
I don't like it.
But say it.
Say moon raker. No, don't say it with a shrug.
Say it with... Moonraker.
Yeah.
You're a man again.
It feels a little...
It feels better than I thought.
You guys say it.
Moonraker.
Now say cello chase.
Both are satisfying in different ways.
In different ways.
Moonraker.
So you like Moonraker, the title, because of it's just, it's like a pop-p-wow.
It's pure gut.
Yeah.
And I think you can't beat that.
I think you can.
Hard over-bring.
If you look here, I think there's 22 things that can beat it.
You are so wrong.
Moon Raker.
Moon Raker.
That's terrible.
Moon Raker.
It doesn't mean anything.
It means so much that you can't even define it.
It's everything.
It's the golden eye of rockets.
Golden Eye is going,
I'd love to be Moon Raker one day,
but I don't know how to do it.
Look at Moon Raker.
So cool.
Moon Raker.
You think the golden eye
watched the Moon Raker from the shadows
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
All right, look, I'll give it to your opinion, guys.
Objectively, he's wrong.
Anybody want to make a case for the best bond title out there if you feel pretty passionately?
Yes, just shout it out.
Okay, and do you want to back that up?
Okay, yeah, don't get too close to the line.
Great, good.
So you have to ask, is it just gibberish or does it actually have some relevance to the movie,
has relevance to the movie.
Right.
Is the relevance like some Macuffin?
Is the relevant some McGuffin?
Or is it a reference to the villain?
Or does it have some deeper thematic relevance?
So it's a reference both to the villain
and it has some deeper thematic relevance as well.
So I think it's the only movie title
that satisfies all of those.
The only one?
I didn't know you had those exact requirements
for a movie title, sir.
What's your name?
Andrew.
Let's hear it for Andrew.
Thank you, Andrew.
I agree. I do agree with that.
Moon, Raker.
Moon, moon, moon, moon, rain.
Okay, so we have, like, let's, we can do five minutes of Q and A.
If anyone has any cues, we can A.m. Yes, we have one over here. I'm going to wander over with my wired microphone.
I think that's just to pick up the ambient snapping music from the, yeah, jazzy. How are you, sir?
Well, thank you. Is Irving Kirsner here, and if so, just have any notes on?
on Rise of Skywalker
or No Time to Die.
Mack, you go take a look and see if Irving's
back there.
Just see if he wants to come out.
What are you doing? I'm sleeping. What are you doing?
They're just wondering if you could come out there for a little bit.
I'm having a sits bath.
Here, let's just towel you off a little bit.
Here you go. Oh, that's a Terry Cloth.
All right, I'll hobble down. Here I come.
Now, Irving,
Welcome to the stage, Irving.
Kirshner, everybody.
Director of such films as The Empire Strikes Back and Robocop 2.
You're forgetting Never Say Never Again.
My PSD Resistence.
Speaking of the Resistance, I also did Rise of Skywalker.
You did?
I'm told.
That wasn't J.J. Abrams.
Oh, no, I put...
I made the baby goblin.
Sir, that was the Mandalorian.
It's all of a piece.
I'm doing a sort of
multimedia thing.
I made a little
baby Yoder, and I made a little baby
Zarin.
And I'm going to do a little spin-off
film. Have you thought about perhaps a little baby
Robo-Kip.
Robo Kip.
That's exactly right.
Anyway, I do got to go, but I want to say,
Go Monraker.
What I miss?
Well, Irvin Kirster swung by from beyond.
He seemed to be in good spirits.
Just got toweled off.
Are there any other?
Oh, yes, sir.
Go ahead.
Hi, guys.
Hello.
Hi.
Apropos, absolutely nothing we've talked about tonight.
I just had a question about,
in your head canon and viewing order,
is it cool with you to swap
Honor Majesty Secret Service in Diamond's Are Forever
so that you can watch all the Conneries in a row?
I think it's cool for you to do whatever you want to do with the...
Because the two stories...
The two stories are not connected whatsoever.
Right.
Absolutely.
I believe that these are given to us to then...
I seem to be blowing Matt's mind here.
Well, you can't...
What?
You have to...
Diamonds or Forever has to pick up right after the death of Tracy, so...
Why?
Because he's on that revenge spree.
But put him in the Massachusetts...
But he could have been on a revenge spree.
Can't follow you when I live twice.
Why can't it?
Because he already knows who Blofeld is.
Right.
Plastic surgery is explained in the diamonds.
He just says he got his ears done.
To connect the lobe.
It actually makes more sense
to have the plastic surgery first,
so you go, oh, that's why he keeps changing.
I'm with you on that.
Thank you.
How do you feel about Moonwreckers as a title?
Pretty good title.
But better than that.
How do you feel?
Is it not actually?
actually a reference to a tall ship, like a sail on a tall ship, like the upper boats.
Oh, that's right.
You're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Triple meaning.
Triple meaning, Jim.
We have a winner.
It's the tallest of ships.
It rakes the moon.
Oh.
You know what a more important was?
It's way up there, top of the mess.
Thank you.
Look, I think you can watch it in that order, but only if you follow my James Bond canon order, which is Casino
Royal, Cuantra Salas, everything else.
Skyfall.
Well, what do you do with Specter
and no time to die?
Those happen after Skyfall.
All right.
We're back in.
I think Daniel Craig's James Bond
at some point fought Goldfinger.
I know you all laugh
and think it's ridiculous,
but it's the same person.
Thank you.
One other person.
That's the guy that told us to use our brains.
Brains!
Okay, anybody else?
have a question.
Two new you, you can come to us.
One over here.
Yes.
Oh, thank you very much.
We have some help happening here.
There's a microphone coming.
You have a beautifully knit hat.
Hey, guys.
Hi.
Long-time listener.
I was just wondering, it's 2020, and obviously
the new James Bond's coming out.
So do you guys have an idea, like, what you're going to do ramping up to it?
Because it's in April.
It's January right now.
It's coming.
So the beauty of this movie coming out is I go on hiatus from the Goldberg's.
Just so you know, this would be the first time I'm hearing any of it.
this point.
We've talked to, I mean, we've had
vague plans, so I'll talk about it in front of you
guys and Matt for the first time.
Good question.
I am, I will,
my availability opens right the fuck
back up third week of March.
Okay. So we can
do sort of what we did to lead up a specter
where we sort of, I will do a podcast where we
discuss what we hope is happening, what
we'd like from the movie.
Do you remember when we briefly talked to Phil Nobiel
about taking a trip to England
to see this? We could
also do that. Because it comes out
like 10 days earlier or something there.
Maybe, doesn't it? I think, yeah.
I'm getting a positive yes right there, sir.
Are you English?
No, but he...
Okay.
You are?
I'm on my ticket already. Oh, yeah.
What?
Who's your ticket guy?
Okay.
To Lundon?
To Lundon?
Yeah.
You purchased your plane ticket?
Oh, I see.
So you were taking a trip anyway, and you were like, if I bump it down a couple of weeks,
there's the microphone.
Tell everybody at home what you just said to us.
You are going to England when?
At the end of March.
I go once a year for fun and I plan this one around the Bond movie.
That's brilliant.
Okay.
Now you always, do you always plan it around the Bond movie when it's coming out?
So every like five years, you're like, I've got to go around this.
No, I've only been going the last four years.
Okay.
But now, yes.
But now I go early.
But now I go early.
You're there early.
So you're going to London and you're going 10 days early.
You're going to watch.
You, sir, are a hero.
I tried.
That's amazing.
Well done.
You're speechless.
I feel like we should do it.
We could do.
I think so.
These are grand plans, but I feel like we could probably knock out a live London show too, right around there.
Probably.
You guys all want to go to London?
we'll rent a ship with a moon raker.
Sir, before you, what is your name, sir?
Michael.
Michael, here's the deal. If we go do a London show,
we'd like you to also buy tickets for that.
Okay, yeah, I'll be there for a week.
But we'd like you to buy 100 tickets.
I'll give a second.
We're going to, maybe we build our trip around you, Michael.
I'm excited.
I do want to say one thing.
Sir, is it you that has the On Her Majesty Secret Service jacket?
Would you mind standing up?
Look at how cool this thing is.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man.
Sir, where did you get that?
That's from the...
Is that a crew jacket?
Pizgloria thing.
So my girlfriend had a work trip to Switzerland,
and she tolerated us going to
Shiltorn and Pizgloria.
Oh, my God.
And we went, did the pictures.
But she loved it when she got there.
Bought the villain jacket.
She tolerated it.
She's cool with it.
It's still at I tolerate, not at...
wow, this was great, show me all the rest of these movies?
We have to pick and choose which movies we watch
based on how historically problematic they've become.
Okay, so let's just go ahead and knock this off the list.
Yeah.
Just go ahead and take, you only live twice and put it at the bottom.
Yeah, I mean...
And then put some others underneath that.
Yeah, it's really...
Sometimes your disguises aren't great.
Just send someone else.
But that disguise is not great just because of its insensitivity.
Also, just practically, it's so bad.
There's, like, no attempt to do anything but be terrible.
Yeah.
Yeah, sir, you're also a hero for that.
You understand, you know, time and its place, and your wife, you said?
Girlfriend.
Make it the wife, because she lets you go to Pits of Gloria and, I mean, you didn't exactly
podcast in a bathroom, but
yeah. So we did
listen to it before we went.
Did she tolerate the podcast?
She tolerated it. The question I was going to ask
is if you went to and did something similar
to any other filming location,
where would you want to go?
I think for me
the answer now is
it would be golden eye. You want to go up
to the satellite?
I think we
could get there.
then I want to go to the moon
If we just
If we just grab a moon raker
We can get off before
I'm joining Space Force
No but if I think that like
If we were to do like
Some big sort of trip
Podcast related
I think going to Jamaica
Going to Golden Eye
Especially now that it has
Now that it will be appearing in
Right
The next James Bond film
I feel like this
That just screams
Tax deduction
it does
I guess that's probably our
time, right? Yeah, I think
that's it. I wish we could... Oh shit. Wow, we've filled
the whole fucking time. I'm so sorry.
Slash, you guys have been
amazing. You really have. Thank you so much for coming.
Thank you for sitting with us on a Sunday afternoon.
It is very fun to do this. I wish we could
do it all day.
I can't help but think if the football game
wasn't happening, it'd be the same amount of people.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Thank you guys so much.
Have a lovely rest of your day here at Cobb's Comedy Club.
And I believe it is fair to say, Matt, that James Bonding will return.
Thank you.
