James Bonding - Moonraker with Doug Benson

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

The Matts are back to discuss Moonraker with special guest Doug Benson! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

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Starting point is 00:00:49 Matt End, Matt and, Matt, and, James Bonding Podcast. Uh, what? How do we do this? Who are you? Who are you? Who, what is this place? Why is there a microphone in front of me? This is the one where we talk about Doctor Who? I think...
Starting point is 00:01:07 Who? Uh, Dr. Hooning. Uh-huh. With Matt and Matt. Okay. Let's do it weekly. Oh, great. That's never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Uh, guys, welcome back to James Bonding. We've taken a long hiatus, you know? Let's, uh, let's think of it as our time on the island. That's true. We just drank ourselves into a, into a fear. We had C.G. scorpions on our hands. Yeah. Remember when.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Bond was in a North Korean prison? Doug went to Earwolf. Oh, no. Continue. I do remember when he went to a North Korean I'm going to text Doug and let him know. Meltdown. Oh, well, you know what we're going to do? We're here to talk about Moonwraker, but we're going to use the first portion of this
Starting point is 00:01:59 as an emergency mission briefing prologue to discuss the Specter teaser trailer. So, let's begin. A minute and 36 seconds of pure gold. I was intrigued by the fact that there's no action in this thing. Well, listen, I think they're just saving the big action set pieces. We didn't even see Mexico. We didn't even see it, because that's being shot right now, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We didn't see the Bond Girl. Oh. Well, we saw blah, blah, blah, blah. Maria Balucci. There you go. Is that right? Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:31 But I didn't mind that we didn't see action. We get to see some Mr. White. It's got shades of the quantum teaser. Do you remember because that was a voiceover of Mr. White going, I was always very curious to see who you are and who Vesper was going to have you be or whatever. What did you think? Here's a couple thoughts. Very excited.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Excited about it. It's the first time I've been excited about this movie. Oh, very good. I mean, I've been excited. I mean, I feel like we did an hour and a half talking about a 10-minute press conference, so I feel like we were excited then. We were, but I don't know. Something I'm like cautious. optimistic, but I haven't been like,
Starting point is 00:03:08 here we go, I'm ready. And then I saw this teaser, and I did get very excited. I got some good chills. Well, it's interesting, because I'll tell you a couple things. I was a little, I'm a little weary of this teaser. In what way? I feel. Weary or wary? You're tired? Oh, wary. Wary? Sorry,
Starting point is 00:03:23 Boston. I thought you meant like you watched it a bunch of times. I'm so sleepy from watching it so much. I think that they, I'm a little worried about the forced super continuity that's happening. Yeah, I get you. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:39 I'm with you. I'm hoping that's just a little thing to kick off on and then we don't need to go back. I really hope so because it really, like, I was just, my first thought when I saw MI6 was like, oh, they didn't fix the fucking building yet. Well, does that mean it's a direct continuation? Yes, that's what it means to me.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah. To me it means it happens minutes after Skyfall wraps up. And we're very likely not getting just bond on a mission. Well, in a movie. I don't know. I don't know. Again, this is a teaser. This is a teaser.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Who does he trust? What is his secret, though? Is it that he has a brother we don't know about? Is it that he, his parents watched after this weird Austrian guy for a little while? Like, what is it? Well, I know a little something from the books. I don't know if I should say that because it's a little bit of a spoiler. No, from the books, go for it.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Okay. Well, Hans Oberhouser was his guardian after his parents died. But in the books, there's not another kid. Right. But I'm inferring from. from the trailer that that's Christoph Waltz. I don't have any kind of spoiler. You're referring that he is Hans.
Starting point is 00:04:37 No, he's the other kid. Hans Oberhauser was his benevolent guardian that took care of him after the fact. And that's covered in the octopusy short story. And I think they're adding this foster brother or whatever sibling thing. That's speculation. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Why would they, in the continuity established by Skiffel, why would they have, why would why would there be a photo of this guardian in Skyfall? Because I think after his parents grew
Starting point is 00:05:11 were killed. Well I think he didn't live in Skyfall anymore. Well then why is there a picture there? Well, I'm sure he went back and that's where the family... I don't think he went back. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I was not prepared to defend the scrutiny. But I'm liking the cinematography. The Aston Martin sounds great. Yeah. You hear that rev right up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:31 The cinematography. The photography looks really good. It looks beautiful. I think it looks beautiful. I was going to try it down. Maybe even the composition as well, just the rhythm, like just the shots of the zoom ins on the floating in on his own little boat into the Austrian Alps. Well, you asked for it.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Now you're getting it. We're going to do a live read slash look at the trailer while we talk about it. Because maybe you'll have the same impression I did that Mr. White calls James Bond the Seward. And it took me a second that he says kite. Katie, do I have volume up on the auxiliary here so I can play this? Thank you very much. Let's go to videos. Are we stopping and starting?
Starting point is 00:06:18 We are going to stop and start, yeah. What do you want to do? Yeah, let's do that. That sounds good because everybody's seen this. We know our audience. We know our audience. We're source for all your James Bond news. Whoops.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I didn't meant to do that. Oh, God. Guys, I used to be better with computers. Okay, here we go. Your first look at Specter. Watch the teaser trailer. Let's bring this volume up. A lot of people don't like that teaser poster.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I like it. Just him and a turtleneck. Come on. That's my background. See that? Oh, it is. Sorry. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Okay, it's an MGM picture. Done. The screech of high strings. All right, already. We're opening up. We're seven seconds in. below seven seconds in and we're seeing MI6
Starting point is 00:07:08 with what looks like far more damage. I was just saying because I watched Skyfall the other night and I'm like that not that much of it blows up. Far more damage than would have been caused by M's computer blowing everything up. Forensics finally released this. What is it?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Personal effects they recovered from Skyfall. Okay pause there. All right. Now here's why I also think this is super right after Skyfall. apartment hasn't been decorated yet. You could make the case... He got all the stuff out of storage and it's sitting in there. All credit to Phil Noble Jr. on the Badass Digest who makes the case that he is the
Starting point is 00:07:46 type of Bachelor Bond that may never get to that sort of thing and probably eternally lives in that until he finds himself someone that can clean that place up. Disagree. You think he... I think he's the type of bond that would have an espresso machine before anybody else that might confuse M. But he does strike me as the type that would make sure his external appearance is sharp, but when he gets home, he doesn't really care.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I don't imagine Daniel Craig's Bond interior decorating. I imagine Daniel Craig's Bond taking a day and hanging stuff. Look at those. They're ready to go. They're where he wants them. Yeah. Well, you may be right, but I could see that he's been a while too. Also, love the hardwood, dark hardwood floors.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah, rough. You've got a secret. Okay, here we go. We have Order of Temporary Guardianship for James, Bond 12 years old. This is his 12 year old file. This is from when he was 12 years old. It says that it happened in 1981, which is really pushing the time lineup. Yeah. Because that would have been, what, 1930? Maybe even... How old is... What year was James Bond born? Well, the Fleming Bond? Oh, my God. I don't know. He's probably in the 20s. Yeah. Yeah. So this is really pushing the timeline up. Well, in this... Court use only. 12 years old. Now, what else are we seeing here? Legal guardianship, it looks like a C is signed here. That's his aunt. Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Okay, and we have a picture, poorly done picture. This doesn't look like a photograph. It looks more like a colored pencil sketch. The photoshopping is, why his movies never... And also, here's my question. This photo taken in the early 80s, why is it going to have a weird border like that? This is bothering me, a little.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Well, it is the Alps. A bunch of old cameras. Come on. Something you can't tell anyone. All right, here's a better close-up of what looks like A young Daniel Craig and Jeff Daniels. And yeah, I'm going to get Jeff Daniels. That's exactly what that looks like.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Because you don't trust anyone. It's a punis. What's the secret that he has a brother and he can't trust? Does he know his brother might be Blofeld? This is what I'm inferring. Again, I'm not spoiling anything. And I, please, please don't send us spoilers. Anything.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, yeah, do not. We're only looking at officially sanctioned. Do not send us spoilers. This is all speculation. This is the specter speculation. Spectrelation. No, please, please. Nothing that isn't Eon sanction.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I don't want to know. Only things that come from 07.com. Yeah. Thank you. All right, beautiful shot of him on a boat in the middle of nowhere. Just going out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Look at that. I always knew death wear a familiar face. Look, what's yours? Okay. That was obviously. Mr. White. We know that because we've watched this.
Starting point is 00:10:39 If you're watching it, you don't know that. But here he is. It looks like he's at a funeral. Monica Balucci is mourning someone. She's lost someone, we presume. I was at a meeting recently, and your name came on. Did you hear that? That's the Esther Martin DB 10.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I'm flattered London. Still talking about me. Secret Society thing is walking through. Look at this coat. It's a great coat. I'm guessing Tom Ford. I don't know for sure. find out.
Starting point is 00:11:08 It wasn't in my sinks. Okay, so I was at a meeting. People were talking about you. So I'm assuming he's at the meeting that we see very shortly in the trailer. I wager not. I wager that he's at some action setpiece and he kills whoever Monica Balucci is, man, maybe not that, but he kills someone and gets that ring. And he's doing his subtle bond way of saying, like, I killed somebody who then told me where you were.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I disagree. He's hunting Mr. White Den. Here's what I think. Okay. I think he was able to somehow to sneak into that Spectre meeting where he shows up and Christoph Waltz is like, I think he snuck into that. So soon?
Starting point is 00:11:46 And then he just walks out of there with a ring? I think he, no, I think he snuck into that. I think that was where they were talking about Mr. White. I think him killing someone and getting that ring happened after. I think we can both be right. But I think he's actually talking about a meeting. I think he's talking about the meeting we see. Anyway, he puts it down on the chess board.
Starting point is 00:12:04 You see? but it is not, it appears to not be, it's on the white side. Now, I don't know what that means. Well, he puts it in a place in checkers where you'd normally say king me. Yep. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:20 You're a kite. And right there. You tell me you don't think he's going to say something different? I always thought he said kite. But now hear it my way. I tried. You didn't hear it? I think you're racist.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Try it again. Race. All right, here we go. Play it again. Dancing in a hurricane, Mr. Bond. You're a kite. Dancing in a hurricane, Mr. Bond. And his eyes all fucked up.
Starting point is 00:12:48 His eyes are all fucked up. Maybe he got glaucoma. I don't know how the health of that actor is. But he looks very old. But then again, you think about it. Cass and the Royal was 10 years ago. Yeah. Oh, he looks good.
Starting point is 00:13:03 He looks better than he doesn't skyfall. Yeah, because he's not all haggard. But I was wondering how much of that was makeup, and now I see that probably a lot of. of it was. Welcome to James. Okay. The little xylophony chime
Starting point is 00:13:18 of the James Bond theme. Plus it's preceded by one of those trailer tropes that drives me crazy and they do it subtly here, but they do it, that descending bass thing. Like that's for your furious seven movies, not for your Bond movies.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And then the little xylophone thing feels a little like that eerie thing they put in. Like I half expected a kid's voice like in the new Avengers trailer to go like... You hear that it was... Got no strings.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. But you hear, you know, it's the James Bond. I know. Part of me loves it. I like... But part of me feels it's a little... I think the franchise has a long tradition of shoving the James Bond theme
Starting point is 00:13:55 across many different atmospheric instruments. It's not the Bond theme that bothers me. It's the placement of it? No, it's just the like, here we go with a cheery, sort of chilling thing that feels a little overused. Well, I think you feel overused right now. All right, that's fair. I love this thing.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Don't get me wrong. I really like this teaser. All right. It's been a long time. And now when I hear it, I'm like that. Here we are. Mr. Bonn, your delicious milk. Now, what can we gather from this that we're seeing?
Starting point is 00:14:30 He doesn't have a face. Doesn't have a face. He probably won't have a face. He's like that guy in saving Private Ryan in the opening scene that just gets his face off. Ice. The action. Are we going to experience that in IMAX?
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's coming out in IMAX. I know. Yeah, I guess we are. I asked you the question. Are we experiencing it? We better experience it at some kind of premiere. We have to experience it every way possible. Cool.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Great. Great. So, in summation, a lot of speculation to be had. Yeah. I really am looking forward to seeing some action. Yeah. And I hope they only do one more trailer. I do too.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah. I agree. And then we'll see what the action sequences are in the Alps and in Mexico. This is a beautifully teasery teaser. It's just a little come hither. It's a teaser. Yeah, really tease me until wanting to see this movie. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Ladies and gentlemen, that does it for a spec... What are we calling it? Spectrelation. Spectrelation. We now enter the world of Roger Moore's James Bond. Before we do that, I want to thank Marissa Amoni and Chris. Evans, wow, Captain America, who gave Matt and I these amazing prints of Doctor No Paper Dolls. Honey Rider?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, one of Sean Connery and one of Honey Rider. And it was very nice of you, thank you. That came via Jeff Ulrich. Sean is in his Terry Cloth? He is. Just hanging out, being a cool guy. It's beautiful. Also, a really nice listener named Brendan is sending you and me the bootleg Eon production version of Never Say Never Again,
Starting point is 00:16:21 where someone has edited to John Barry music and put in a gun barrel sequence. This sounds amazing. Yeah, so maybe when we get to that movie, we can watch that version as well. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Doug is going to be here shortly. Let's talk about Moonraker. Or should we wait for Doug? No, let's go, because I, unfortunately... You have a hard out. He'll join in, naturally. Moonraker is Roger Moore's 95th entry into the James Bond franchise.
Starting point is 00:16:51 That's right. That's right. Coming hot off the heels of The Spy Who Love Me. Another Lewis Gilbert joint who starts the movie in exactly the same way. This, I was just saying to Matt, before we started recording, that it really felt like they had completely checked out and run out of ideas. It's bonkers, and that's why I think I love this movie. Oh, bold statement.
Starting point is 00:17:18 It goes hard, it's got no substance. First of all... It does have literally no substance. It starts with this wacky, but impressive skydiving free fall sequence, right? Yeah. Where it ends with Jaws trying to fly by flapping his arms.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yes. While circus music comes up. And then it goes right into a very serious torch song. Yeah. The most inappropriate song for this movie. Well, yes. Yeah. Yeah. But that's Moonraker, and that's why we love it.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Moonraker is really... It's a, it's a, how, what number is this? What number of movies is this? 12. I don't know. No, it can't be that high. Yeah, it can be. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But the point is, you're all of the plot points in this movie. Every last plot point is something we have seen before. But you have to admit that stealing a shuttle off the back of a jumbo jet is brilliant. It's nuts, but it's, that's Moonwraker right there. Yeah, I also feel like, welcome to the show, Doug Benson. you're just in time pop a squat we literally have we just finished talking about the specter teaser trailer
Starting point is 00:18:28 and now we're diving into moonraker Doug joins us of course you can catch Doug got a number of podcasts out there getting high with Doug and Doug loves movies of course minisodes this guy does it all you just called it by its wrong name
Starting point is 00:18:45 you got it wrong right and I wonder you got it wrong getting Doug with high do people ever get so high that they call it by that name which seems right uh no it's It's just a mistake anybody can make. I've done it once or twice. Doug, when was the last time before this you had seen Moonraker? Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I don't know. I probably eyeballed it, you know, in parts on... Because, you know, Spike used to do... I don't know if they still do. I think they do marathons all the time. And with commercials and stuff, it would take three and a half hours to watch at least one. This one especially. This one is two hours and six minutes.
Starting point is 00:19:23 super long and it feels it every bit of it and i i had a i had mixed uh like watching it it's always interesting to go back and watch an old bond movie because even though i've seen them all a bunch of times uh you still are like oh that was this one you know like you're like oh this is about to happen like you start to remember things that are going down as they happen and uh that was certainly the case with this one is i even as a young person the first time i saw it uh i had some pretty massive issues. Well, I mean, let's just get into it. And everybody knew that Star Wars had happened.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yes. And Star Wars, you know... It happened all over this movie. James Bond, yeah. James Bond just decided to compete. I even think, and I might be wrong, but I think at the end of Spy Who Loved Me, it said James Bond will return in Fear Eyes Only.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's right. And then they jumped all over Moonraker when they decided it had to have a space element, and people shooting lasers. And the exact plot of the movie that we had just seen, The Spy Who Love Me. And the lasers sound like someone's like squirting yogurt out of a tube or something like that. The lasers are so ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Well, yeah, let's talk about it. So I'm all in because it's so bonkers. I can't enjoy this movie more because I don't know what's happening. I like it to a point. It does so many. I find it so entertaining. Totally it does so much from... It's maybe my second or third favorite Roger Moore.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. It's the first one where, and I get what you're saying about tonally, it's the first one where there's just way too many kind of wacky moments. Yes. Yeah. You know, there was a certain wacky ass, there's a, you know, the sheriff, the crazy sheriff character in Live and Let Die that was just a rip off of Jackie Gleason from smoking the bandit. That was the first step. Yeah. But changing jaws from probably the.
Starting point is 00:21:21 top two villains in the history of the franchise to the single worst one in one movie. Into a fun-loving guy? Because I have an interesting one to put out. What do you think is the wackiest moment in this film? Is it either Jaws is coming out of the rubble or when he's flapping his arms flying down? What are you talking about? The wackiest moment is the movie. It's not even Jaws.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Pige and Double Take. So now put Pigeon Double Take up to the scene where Corrine is chased by Doberman Pinsers through this beautifully shot Woodskin. It looks like a 70s horror movie. Those two are in the same movie. me. Yeah, that's a really strange death for, you know, like, he's always getting every woman killed in his wake, but never, like, in a way that seems like it's going to be, like, physical torture. Like, torn apart by dogs.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah, and she looks generally frightened, and it's weird. And it's shy, like, you can tell they brought in fog into the forest. I know, it's beautiful, though. It's gorgeous. Her outfit was sexy. She looked good running in it. It was really beautifully done. but having just come off the heels of everything with Jaws.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah. Well, okay, so here's the plot of this movie. The beginning scene. Yes. The space shuttle. Which they have to outdo themselves every time is what they've, what they used to do. Now I don't know what they're doing. Now they're just, it's a scene before the credits. This one, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:22:41 So this one has something to do with the plot of the movie, which is newish sort of a... But not for all of Lewis Gilbert's films. Right. All each of his starts. A vehicle being stolen. Usually by another vehicle. And two out of three is about a master race. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah. Yeah. I was saying... And that was the film just prior to this. Yeah, this literally is no new ideas in this movie. No. Zero new ideas. Just...
Starting point is 00:23:07 Don't give me new idea. Instead of underwater, we go up into space. Yeah. So they steal the space shuttle off... And every time he confronts Jaws, it ends with Jaws, making a face like, oh, no! And then brushing him... off and moving on.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Everyone's gonna be fine. I also love the line at the end, they're 100 miles of Earth, they'll be fine. Yeah. It's just ridiculous. Yeah, they had to throw that in because it kind of read like they were just going to go die alone together in space.
Starting point is 00:23:36 It would have been better. Because also that girl that's in the pre-credit sequence that he's messing around with before the whole free fall sequence. They show her putting on a sky or a parachute, but you never see her leave the plane. I don't know what happens to her. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:23:50 She just decides to leave later because also doesn't Jaws just suddenly pop up out of nowhere? Like where was he hiding? How come James Bond didn't know Jaws was on the plane? I also like that you can make a plane go haywire by breaking the speedometer.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He just shoots the speedometer. The plane goes nuts. Yeah. Okay. So they steal a space shuttle, two mimes, I think. They didn't say any words. I assume they were mimes. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:14 They look real sneaky. Yeah, very French looking. Very French, very sneaky. So they get up there. They steal the space. space shuttle off the top of the 7.47. The actual space shuttle had not been made yet. Revealed. Yeah. Yeah. But they let the producers go in and check it out because I think by then the shuttle was supposed to be revealed and it would have been this big co-celebration.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. Look, we're all doing it and then I think it was delayed. So they got a scoop. They got a hell of a scoop. They got a hell of a scoop with the space shuttle. So the spatial gets stolen and then all the British people are like, well, we're super embarrassed by this. It was in our charge and we lost it. So, James, why don't you go find it? Done. Before you find it, James, let me give you the most ridiculous gadget in the history of gadgets. A wrist dart gun.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yeah, but he uses it twice. He does use it twice. Wait, this scenes after the credits, though? Right after the, well, oh, sorry, I skipped the entire jumping out of the plane. I skipped one of the great stuff. I was like to hear. I thought we were going to, yeah. Oh, would you like to, let's hear a little.
Starting point is 00:25:18 of Shirley Basty singing the... All right, because I have some things to say about that. I think it's the least appropriate song for a Bond movie, considering the movie itself. Does it go right? Well, let's go all the way back to this. Let's go back to when they jump out, you know, it's the classic jumping out of planes without a parachute
Starting point is 00:25:34 kind of situation. This dude punches him in the stomach and then throws him out of the plane, which like, Bond seems like, you know, he always beats some guys that are bigger to him, but this guy's smaller than him. Yes. And look how small the plane is. Where is Jaws hiding in this plane? No, there's no way...
Starting point is 00:25:49 That's a good point. Yeah, there's no way James Bond wouldn't be, who's this giant guy? That just pushed me out of an airplane. Who I have had previous encounters with it were quite vicious. But I had a reason last time. Because in the last movie, in Spye Who Love Me, Jaws would actually really bite a lot of necks with those vicious teeth, right?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, and he would just kill people that way. He almost does it in this movie, but then decides to celebrate. Then he gets distracted by Mardi Gras. But this move right here, this move here. Yeah. That's, first of all, that's a great. great double for Roger Moore. There's very few processed shots in this sequence that look shitty.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So for when this movie came out, this is a pretty amazing sequence. Because they had to do a lot of real diving. He had to do a lot of real ass munching right there. And like there's shots of jaws where it looks like they made Richard Kiel jump out of a plane, which is like, that's got to be scary to be that big and jump out of a plane.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But then there are shots where it looks like they made his son jump out of a plane. Yeah. There's just a little guy. But this is great the way they hid the shoots on these guys and sent them out of a plane. Yeah, God, it must have been. This is... This is just covered in the documentary and they said they would just give me three seconds for each jump that I can use and
Starting point is 00:26:52 John Glenn who's doing the second unit direction would edit it on the ground and say now I need this shot and they'd go back up. Wow. That's incredible. Yeah, that shot looked like a process shot. They'd slip some in there but this is a real guy that's the same guy. He's a stuntman or the guy's failing his arms. No. That's amazing. Yeah, hey
Starting point is 00:27:08 we never get to find out how he lands or whatever. Yeah. But we do see. And then James Bond's got arthritis or something here. It's like shaking, trying to latch the parachute on. And then in comes... See, look, that is ridiculous. That shot looks like it could be Richard Keel.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It looks like a gigantic dude. But maybe it isn't. Maybe it's a slightly smaller guy. Yeah, wait until you get closer. It looks pretty rough. Yeah, but that's really neat right there. And that shot, too. And then not really...
Starting point is 00:27:38 See, that looks like him. I think that was a double, but that's a bad shot. Yeah, it was a double. But with those teeth and the hair, it's easy to match him. Watch when he starts flapping his wings. Yeah, that's a bad process shot. when he flaps. That's done is the ghost protocol of its day. Here it comes.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I love the way he looks at it. Here, let's listen to his music here. Because he's above a circus. And this right here. He's wrapping his arms like a goon. This right here is Moonraker. Right. They show the interior of the Moonraker's circus. Or wait, what? Just
Starting point is 00:28:08 the tone. Like right there. Like, that's Moonrager. I see you're saying. I thought. Flip to flip. And now... I heard Moonraker. I mean, you said Moonrager. I heard Octopus. Because there's a circus. Oh, yeah. Octoplycy. And then this shift into this music is so strange. I love this song, but the lyrics are bonkers, too.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Why show what's going on inside the circus and then not show him come crashing into it, like just go right into the credits? This is Shirley Bassie's third and final of the bond. She did Diamonds or Forever, and, of course, Goldfinger. Yeah, and then this one, you know, it's a good song, but mostly because it's just Goldfinger. She used to Moonwaker. Yeah, and slowed down a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Moon Raker. But the visuals are very, I don't know, they're not that memorable. No, but they definitely were still in the, you know, naked silhouettes flipping around. They're less sexy this time around than they had been, like, in the previous one, there's, like, nipples and stuff. Oh, you can see some nipples. Yeah, and this girl, I don't know who the hell she is or why we would care. But it's, yeah, it's not.
Starting point is 00:29:17 not one of the best opening title sequences, but I still love it because they, you know, they just phased it out and just started doing just... You still have to sit through a whole song by Chris Cornell or somebody. Yeah. And but you don't get the sexy ladies. Well, the beauty of it was it used to take the place
Starting point is 00:29:36 of the post-credit sequence. Yeah. Like there would be no post-credits. It would just go, James Bond will return and then goodbye. Yeah, and they have some on this because it's such a big special effects thing, but it's still pretty fast end of credit. So, yeah, where do you rank this song amongst all the James Bond songs?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Middle below average. How many movies we got now? 22. Yeah, I might... 23, right? Is it 23? Isn't? Skyfall 23?
Starting point is 00:30:01 23. Yeah, 23. Holy shit, yeah. I dislike so many of the theme songs that is what might be in my top 10. Oh, wow. Good job. It might be. It might be like 9 or 10.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Speaking of credits, this is the last film of Ken Adam and Bernard Lee. And Bernard Lee is M. Two huge staples of the Bonnard. But also, I think Bernard Lee probably has the most to do in this movie. Yeah, but he feels a little a bit of a struggle for him. And John Glenn
Starting point is 00:30:25 directed this one. No. I mean, did the editing and then went on to direct a lot of them. Yes. Yeah, the next one, right? Yeah, for your eyes only. He starts next. And then he did a few of them.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah, he did all the way through Dalton. Yeah, license to kill was his fault too. Yeah, yeah, he's kind of put a dull edge on the series. So let's, I like to play whenever James gets a gadget. from Q so let's... This one, yeah, this one really
Starting point is 00:30:50 plays out in an interesting way, this gadget. They always come in handy, whatever gadget he gives them. We've got to find that shuttle. Yes, sir. That's all, gentlemen. Just a minute, 007. I've got something for you. Table 7.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Roll up your right sleeve, will you? He has a weird line rating in this, too. It's so big. He's now being issued as standard equipment. Yeah, he just slips it on, like, he knows how to wear these. Uh-huh. and just pull the sleeve right over it.
Starting point is 00:31:21 No problem. It's activated by nerve impulses from the wrist muscles. That can't break a mistake. Oh, thank you. What is that? What is that even? Why is he thanking him? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:31:38 For not killing him, for hitting the horses behind with the dart. I love him. I love him. Five blue tipped with armor piercing heads. causing death in 30 seconds. How does he know which one he's going to need? He'll never see him loading it. It's always ready to go. If I were him, I'd always be using the blue tip,
Starting point is 00:31:59 because it seems like you'd want an armor-piercing situation. Here we know the only time Bond goes to Los Angeles. I love old LAX. It is so, nothing is happening. Still the same right there, though. The little restaurant in the middle with the... Encounter. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Encounter at L.A. You're the kind of person who's eaten back to have it. I have not eaten there, sadly. Bonn should come back to L.A. Although, what have we got to offer these movies? Nothing. What would he do in L.A.? What would they go?
Starting point is 00:32:27 We could pay him $40 million to make the bad guy not from here. What would he, I mean, seriously, what would be the thing that they would use in L.A. The Hollywood sign? They could fight on the Hollywood sign. Yeah. Has anyone done that? What? Fought on the Hollywood sign?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Oh, fought on it? I don't think so, but there's been... Rocketeer where they blow up the land. Yeah, and they knock the L-A-N-D off in 1941. Yeah. But in that scene, though, Q says the expression, fine-tooth comb, and he says, we went over it with a fine-tooth comb. Yes, I got that. And it's like, couldn't you do another take?
Starting point is 00:33:00 You can have him say it, like, how the expression is supposed to be said? Oh, that's like every time he gets close up on his hands and they're shaking, you know. I think you get what you get with Q. I think, yeah, Desmond Lleyn just reads whatever's in front of him. But in my imagination, they do say that to him, and he goes, yes, got it. And then he does it exactly the same. Yeah, that happens a lot. I've witnessed that with actors that I've been in a situation to watch do a lot of takes.
Starting point is 00:33:27 When they try to tell somebody, because you can't give them a line reading. Right. But you can't, how do you explain? Well, you're just saying it. You're just putting the emphasis in the wrong. They have emphasis deafness. Spot, yeah. So he, okay, so now Bond has to go to Drax.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Drax in the world of James Bond is the person who builds all the space shuttles. And this is one of the only two things that they take from the novel. The villain's name and then that thing at the end where they're like locked in the thrust area of the shuttle. That's it. Everything else is. It's a hell of a way to go though. Yeah. He had to fly.
Starting point is 00:34:01 So we end up, we end up in Versailles. In L.A. In Southern California. He had built brick by brick. They shipped it over from France. Is this the first one you think where every other quip is a complete clunker? Like is it was it that bad in Spy Who Love Me? Not this bad.
Starting point is 00:34:20 No. I think they topped every Bond movie in every way. I'm surprised at the end the entire control room didn't react to Q saying he's preparing for reentry. Like I think they all should have thrown their heads in their hands. Right. And also they suddenly it cuts to a different angle in the shuttle. And then he reaches over and just turns it off.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Like the camera was right there the whole time. Also they say in that that they have onboarded. TV screens, not explaining that a screen is not a camera. But I love the quip, see that some harm comes to him. Oh, that is good. That is good. What do you think of, what do you think of Drax is a villain?
Starting point is 00:34:57 He's dry, but I like him. He's dry and boring, but he does have a few good lines, like, you know, I'll put you out of my misery. It's probably the first time that's ever been said. And, you know, he's a master of the reversal phrase. That's his real villain.
Starting point is 00:35:13 But he's such a boring guy that when he When he dies, it's not fun or funny or exciting. He just sort of goes away. Yeah. Yeah, but he also goes away comically. Just sort of floats off into space. It probably bump into Sandy Bullock. This movie made me realize that the movie Munich has a strange bond connection because
Starting point is 00:35:30 Daniel Craig is in it. Yeah. Lonsdale's in it. And so is that Matthew Almorique, the villain in Quantum, who plays the son of Michael Lonsdale. And it's just this everybody's... That's the worst villain death in all of James Bond history is America. in quantum
Starting point is 00:35:47 where they leave him he has to drink motor oil you think that's the worst I like that a lot why I like that because it just so gross it's just so brutal it's just so brutal
Starting point is 00:35:56 it's very brutal and James by that point has had enough of everything so he's just like fuck it yeah but he's already been you know I mean I guess he's a kind of a new he hasn't been through
Starting point is 00:36:06 all the adventures of Sean Connery and Roger Moore but it is amazing and it happens in this movie too how he just gets people killed yeah yeah he has a license to kill and get people killed.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah, collateral damage. Like not even, when he, when that, he watches those two, well, anyway, we'll get to it. The scientists? Yeah. When is the head peeking?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. He's just peeking at, he's like, Peekaboo, you're dying. Did I do that? Let's see her, drag. How would Oscar Wilde have put it? To lose one aircraft
Starting point is 00:36:41 may be regarded as a misfortune. To lose two seems like carelessness. Now, is that, how much was that a paraphrasing of something that Oscar Wilde said? I don't know. Would he have said something about losing aircraft? That guy's an expert at what Oscar Wilde would say in any modern situation. But here's what I love about this guy, Michael Lansdale.
Starting point is 00:37:06 He looks like giant Peter Dinklage. And here comes Asian Seth MacFarlane. There he is. Big Pete Digglage. You have arrived at a spruicious moment. Coincident with your country's one indisputable contribution to Western civilization. Afternoon tea. May I press you to a cucumber sandwich?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Thank you. Nothing at all. What's his accent supposed to be? A French, I guess. Is that what it's supposed to be? But it's all labor. I do like that they stick to the fact that James Bond hates tea. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And that he, why also was he, why is he decided to be? so into afternoon tea. You know, like, why? And the harp. And he doesn't get offended when James James Bond says no. Let's meet Holly Goodhead together, shall we? The way they deal with this,
Starting point is 00:38:04 this like modern feminism, so they're throwing a bone by making her the doctor, right? But he still has to have that comment like, oh, a woman. Yeah. You know, like they still have to give you some sort of sex. I thought there was a man walking around with the last name Goodhead. And Holly. Well, it was H. Goodhead or Dr. Goodhead until he met her.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Also, just a lot, look at how long as taking him, just walk over there. She's taking a while to walk, too. Can I help you? Yes, my name is Bond. James Bond. I'm looking for Dr. Goodhead. You just found her. Oh. Your powers of observation, do you credit, Mr. Bond?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Energy. James. To my friends. Holly Goodhead Are you training to be an astronaut? To my very close friends I'm fully trained On loan from NASA
Starting point is 00:39:03 The space administration You can hear in this scene Because there's so many spaces Between them Like things Well there's also They're also in a large cavernous Set
Starting point is 00:39:12 She just lacks a lot of energy She has no chemistry She has a hard time remembering She has a hard time remembering She saw broadcast news Yeah She was the Reporter that William Hurt
Starting point is 00:39:24 was threatening to have a thing with and Holly Hunter made sure she got assigned in Siberia or something. They show a scene of her just standing there in a park of doing a live spot. So now... My point is she's a sexy woman. Right. She is gorgeous, but she has no chemistry. It feels like she has no chemistry with Roger
Starting point is 00:39:42 Moore whatsoever. But when did they? When... Maybe Jane Seymour maybe? Yeah, I was just going to say that. Yeah. Is that... For sure. But they're all going to have a tough chemistry with a guy who's 20 years older than them. And that's why maybe Mod Adams does a little, because she's a little bit more mature. Yeah, I think there's chemistry in Octopussy.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah. For sure. Yeah, because that's like they're both octogenarians. They're both Octogenarians. They're both Octopussians. So this movie, what year is? We're an all time high! That's the worst James Bond song.
Starting point is 00:40:13 You've got to at least call the song the name of the movie. You can't say it's called an all-time high from Octopussy. And also, singing Octopussy over and over again would have been awesome. Honor Majesty's Secret Service. instrumental. Instrumental. Thunderball was going to be. It was going to be Mr. Kiss Kiss,
Starting point is 00:40:28 Bang Bang. Yeah, and then... You know my name. What's the... You only live twice as, of course, yeah. You know my name is such a terrible song. Thunderball. That's up there.
Starting point is 00:40:39 That's one of the best ones. Rocking. You only live twice is a good one. Time every day. Tomorrow never dies. I think they all, yeah, for the most part... Yeah. Living Daylights?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yes. Well, that's... View to a kill, obviously. Living daylight is a hot, right? And then Duran Duran Duran Duran. Quantum of Salas is... Madonna was... What was...
Starting point is 00:40:59 World was not enough? Who did that? That was Shirley Manson of Garbage. Oh, right. Yeah. That's not a bad one. No, that's not a bad one at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Quinau Solis is Jack White and Alicia Keys. Yeah. Oh. Not a favorite of mine. No. And Chris Cornell was Casino Royale. Yeah. But that was called something else, too.
Starting point is 00:41:19 You know my name. That was called You Know My Name. Yeah. Which I like the title of that one. Well, we did. At least it still applies to James Bond. All time high. What the...
Starting point is 00:41:28 All time high. We'll take... Rita Coolidge, is that of that? Yes. Wow. Doug. Bringing it. So, of course, there's a centrifuge at this astronaut training facility at the place they
Starting point is 00:41:44 build the space shuttle for some reason that exists there. And James Bond gets strapped in by Hollywood. This seat is so... ridiculous. Why don't play it while we talk over it because... Do you want the whole part where she's explaining to him the different levels of G-Force? No, no, no, no. Just go into it.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Even just the turning takes forever. It's the same thing they use in spies like us with Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd that makes him make really funny faces. You want some coffee? Yeah, but James Bond, you don't want to see him making a funny face. And also, you don't want to see him, like, he looks like he's an old man having a heart attack or something. I think it's also, I feel like this is the...
Starting point is 00:42:23 most danger you ever really see James Bond in. This is as close as he's ever come to die, other than when he dies in Casino Royale is resuscitated. Correct. But check this out. Also, they have to do that thing where they undercrank the film to make it look like it's going faster than it is. Which they also do when the dogs eat the steak
Starting point is 00:42:41 finally. I mean, if nobody's in the thing, why can't they just make it go really fast? Put a dummy in it, make it go really fast and film that. But instead, they've got this sped-up camera work. I wonder if you're going to say the same thing I'm going to say. Where is Holly in comparison to where Chang is? Why would she be nowhere near the guy who could just crank it up? He should go back to the office to answer a phone call from Dax.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Watch when this fails how disappointed the Asian guy is. I really feel like he's heartbroken. Well, yeah, because he's killing this dude right now. That's the plan. The way he just keeps apping it up slowly. Just hit it. Just do it, man. Finish him off.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I think he's just having some fun. He really is. That's why it gets so disappointed because he really put his heart in this. I love the G-Force meter Yeah, so now it's going faster Than it should be allowed to go Loving it? Like that's the other thing Why make it go so fast that it would kill somebody
Starting point is 00:43:31 Why make that an option? 12 G's I read up Someone has gone like 46 Gs before Oh my God And his name is Flatface You read up on it? I did, Dick Tracy villain Because I thought for sure they way exceeded the real thing
Starting point is 00:43:46 That shot of Roger Morgan's wheel I love that I do like him remembering Watch the Asian guy Yeah, I love the way they do a quick shot of him Shooting it off in front of Q Watch To remind you
Starting point is 00:43:58 Oh That was disappointing But then also why doesn't he just wait for him to get out and just kill him As he steps out of the thing It has to look like an accident Right Well, Drax gets a fun line later about how Jay's Bond keeps avoiding all his fun methods of killing him
Starting point is 00:44:17 Yeah So at least he kind of owns up to it Let's hear what Holly has to say I don't know what could have happened. You have a bad season. Yeah, she doesn't even... Something must have gone wrong with the controls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:29 He seemed pretty concerned. Must have been human error. So James, of course, now has to... Oh, wait, one more thing, though. Like I said earlier, wouldn't it be funny if he just shot a poison dart into that thing? Instead of the bullet that goes through armor? He had the right one loaded and ready to go.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Or is it... different sides of the wrist is a different one or something. No, no, it's just one barrel. He just happened to be lucky on that one, and we'll see how he fares with it again later. I'll need armor pierce. Maybe that's why when he's fighting hand-to-hand with Jaws, he doesn't just shoot him with a poison arrow
Starting point is 00:45:06 because he's only got an armor-piercing bullet loaded up, but that's not going to kill Jaws. You don't want to do that. Or why does he not do that in the glass shop with the chain guy? Why doesn't he shoot him with the wrist? That's what I'm saying. He only uses it twice in the movie, and both times, you know, those are good times. The telegraphing in the glass museum is so ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Just the fact that it's placed in a glass museum. That's Moonraker. This is why this is valuable. This is how much of this is worth. But you can see the brainstorming sessions are that, yeah, fight, but what would be the just most calamitous way to have him to fight? I'm going to put a bull in a china shop. What did you say? A bull in a china shop.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Have we done that yet? Let's lose the bull. metaphorically we'll have the bull. Let's keep the China shop. Oh, all right. Make it a museum. In Venice, that'll be expensive. Well, Venice is known for glass.
Starting point is 00:45:56 We should make a glass. Done. Budget it. It'll cost $45. Spared no expense. So James, of course, he needs some information. So he has to go to the one woman he's been alone with besides Holly Goodhead. And that is a helicopter pilot extraordinaire whose name I forget.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Corinne. Corinne something. And that's the actress's name too, so that probably made it easier on everybody. Because the James Bond movies have a tendency to hire people that are not speaking in their native language and then are terrible at acting because of it. They truly only go on look. What do you want from me, Mr. Bond? Fine tooth come? Oh, that was his native language.
Starting point is 00:46:37 You should have known that one. So let's, I don't know if anything's really pertinent here for us to be playing. I do love the, the pheasant hunting scene. Yeah, the killing the sniper's good. I really do like him killing the sniper. They do feature these girls and then the other two girls when he meets
Starting point is 00:46:56 Drax and are they just trying to set them up when you see him later? Yeah, I think they're always just like, look at all these beautiful specimens of culture he's assembled around him. You figuring it out that he's got all these hot girls that are all varieties of and one weird one that'll hook up with jaws.
Starting point is 00:47:15 But doesn't he, that's the other thing too. How does she end up on the space station with Jaws? In one of those outfits with all the other girls. Everybody gets a plus one. Because he just meets her at the gondola, right? Maybe he's just like, we don't get to see the scene where he talks, drags into, you know, I'll kill Jay's Bonfew, but my girl has to come. Listen, she needs to come, but I need a jumpsuit her size. And me, I don't need a jumpsuit.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I'm just going to wear my Jaws suit. But yeah, this is fun that they're. There's a guy trying to shoot him from up in the tree. Yeah, this is great. I doubt if I'm in your class. You're too modest, Mr. Bond. I love this. Old guy in a tree.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It would have been more fun if you'd never seen the guy in the tree. Yeah. You know, and then that would be the reveal, but it's still pretty funny. You missed Mr. Bond. And that expression on his face, Drax, is so funny. He just has to be like, I failed and tried to kill you Now what's going to happen
Starting point is 00:48:29 I need to get another shipment of Acme products And they're so polite In any other movie These two would start fighting each other Right there and then Like we want to kill each other Or he used the gun in his hands Yeah that's what I mean
Starting point is 00:48:40 Obviously he has no issue with Bond being shot In a pheasant hunt So why doesn't he just get one of his other guys go Okay well that didn't work Shoot him right now Let's go Yeah it's very strange how Gentleman's like well
Starting point is 00:48:50 That didn't work We'll have to try again Queensberry Would you guys like to Back to the drawing board but first i'm gonna kill the girl that uh she really it really is like her outfits beautiful but yeah it looks like something from like an amityville horror movie or yeah i dare say she's even uh brawless yeah it's really crazy majority of ladies in bond movies
Starting point is 00:49:12 are brawless they tend to walk around brawis there's some really good uh holly goodhead side boob at one point mm-hmm oh chang always standing by ready to get murder people This music's beautiful You would never know you're watching a Bond movie right now If you just see this No It doesn't move the story forward at all She's got pants on in that one shot
Starting point is 00:49:41 That's weird And sneakers But I don't think she doesn't in any other ones I noticed that too Maybe they just felt bad Like the actress run to the woods So they're hooked around It's probably cold there too
Starting point is 00:49:57 Boy, this goes on But like why it is This goes on for a while Show her running away and him letting the dogs go. The next scene. You know what's going to happen. It's really strange. It's going on for this long.
Starting point is 00:50:13 You just keep waiting for Bond to swoop in and help her. Maybe one of his darts. And then they show it. And then we transition to Venice. Nuts. Venice, Italy. We see it again almost all the same locations in, casino royale.
Starting point is 00:50:41 That's right. Down to the courtyard. He gets off a gondola here. Right now you don't think anything's up with that gondola, right? You think it's a normal everyday gondola. I don't know. I'm watching moonraker, so I think something's up. So James Bond
Starting point is 00:50:55 of course photographs some blueprints for something and the only thing on it was ven glass, so vene glass. So he tracks it down to Venice, Italy without the internet. I don't know how the fuck you do that. Well, he had a little logo. A little business card. This girl is She's a sexy outfit.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Listen to her. She's dubbed by a woman twice her size. Please go anywhere you wish. Also, the please go anywhere you wish in my glass shop, British tourist, seems strange. And then he just walks into the foundry where they're literally making the glass. Classic British euphemism. So let's, uh... This exquisite bowl was fashioned about 1520.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Over 450 years ago. She's pretty cute, too. If it ever came on the market. She does a weird pause when she sees bond. But if any of you were thinking of taking it... Oh, because, you know, it's a new person joining the group. Now we have to hear a very early 17th century ditch with an awful... ...through a face.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Over here, we have something very, very interesting. This glass handled sword. Why? The only one of its kind in the world... For a reason. ...was owned by General Lunati in the late 18th century. Yeah. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And is the work of Runavi. Because she'd normally say, sir, you're not with this group. Yeah. But then he kept moving, so what is she going to do? And this is in Casino, Royal. Oh, that's that. Yeah. She Mark Square.
Starting point is 00:52:27 This is after a few great of the movie to be a lot of great. This is after Space Odyssey, 2001. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's after a few great space movies. All right. So he runs into Holly Goodhead. This is this... No, it's not until the hotel room
Starting point is 00:52:49 where he realizes she's CIA. Right. When he goes through all her gadgets. So again, you could replace her with Ringo's wife and have the spy who love me. It'd be the same fucking plot.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. Yeah, well, just jaws falling him everywhere trying to kill him. It is really insane that they would do the same exact plot. It's just strung together set pieces. In the most
Starting point is 00:53:09 a Bond movie has ever done. Where they literally reverse-engineered set pieces. and let's do this, do this, and this, now put them together. I don't care how you do it. Make it about glass. Do you think the new ones, the enemy like that at all? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They always tend to head that way. They always pick locations. Yeah. And then right around. Yeah. But at least they've chosen Alps. I think we need to talk about this scene. This is a few funny things happen here.
Starting point is 00:53:37 So the length they will go to to assassinate this guy with like a show. We're on the canals. I have to admire the villain's production value with his funeral. Are you kidding me? I love that he has this pre-built coffin full of knives. You know, initially when he flips it up and there's knives in the lid, you're like, okay, I can sort of buy that. But then when the other knives, the other set of knives come up, like a fan, it's super ridiculous. But they also had to know that that coffin wouldn't fit under some of the bridges.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yes. Yes. They had to have gotten back. They had to know that the bridges aren't all uniform and that, like, because even the guy rowing in the thing has to really duck to get under that thing. But you know what? He will not have his artistic vision squashed. So basically, for the listeners, it's a coffin on a boat just floating down the street,
Starting point is 00:54:33 but then it opens, like it's a haunted mansion or something. And there's not only knives inside for him to grab, but then this dazzling array of knives pops up. Like he's got so many knives he can throw. And then, and then, James Bond, Knife's the knife guy to death. Yeah, he's better at throwing knives. The guy's already, the guy's about to throw another knife.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Like, also, why did it take him so long to throw knife number two? And how about a gun? How about a coffin gun? But then dying, falling into the coffin, and then it closing shut on top of him. It's so funny. And now, overcranked shot. Yeah. This is the, I love this part, by the way.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I love that this gentleman, supposedly, by what we're seeing here as an audience, decides the best way to kill this guy that's over here is to shoot the whole on the bridge. Because the bridge, all the bullets show up. It's like, you know, if this was a car and a road, then all the bullets would hit the ground around the car. You can't get anywhere near the person driving the vehicle. You don't want to do that. And then he looks, and that's the only reason they go, oh, my guy. But he looks like, oh, what's that?
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah, he's really shocked at that the coffin can't clear it. But also, who cares? The guy's dead inside that thing. And he just gets nudged off. It doesn't mean if it's not spectacular. Yeah. Oh, I love it. And then now somebody's chasing him with the actual machine gun.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Like, we want to try the subtle knife thing first. Hang back machine gun guys. It's also the first of two boat chases in this movie. Right. So here's the... But not the dumbest one. And this is the... Quit smoking, everybody.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Everybody quit smoking. The guy sees a coffin floating in the river. And he's got to quit that second. This is some wacky nicotine. But they're just about to follow that up with a guy do the same thing with booze. Yeah, it's the same exact gag where he looks at the bottle of wine like, what am I drinking?
Starting point is 00:56:23 Because he sees a fucking weird looking thing go by. But it's not... And also, but it's the same guy. It's a hovercraft. It's the same guy from the spy who love me. This is Moonwraker. It's the same guy that is on the beach watching the Lotus exit. This is hilarious when the guy's boat gets cut in half.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Watch him still keep trying to row. I'll just row. while I'm seeking, that'll work. And the couple on the other side don't even notice that the boats split into... That's how romantic it is there. They're too busy neckin in Venice.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah. And how's it going to smell like a sewer? Oh, I don't know. The most ridiculous contraption of all time. The floating gondola that turns into a hovercraft. So we get an old man doing a double take with a cigarette,
Starting point is 00:57:04 a man doing double take with wine, and then the most famous double take of all time. And I want to talk about this. But this is, no, this boat, It just stuns everyone who sees it. Yeah. That guy, Shaler is shocked. The birds all fly out of the way.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Guy looks at his wine. Two cameras. This Bobby Moynihan Jr. or senior. Then this guy painting, goes back to continue painting, didn't notice his shit was knocked away. There it is. Pigeon triple take. Here's the thing. This is why I don't think the pigeon double take is as bad as can hang a ballooning up into a balloon.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Because in the context of this movie, this whole movie's bat shit crazy. And that fits. It's big, but it fits right in. No, that's a bird. It's more of a shock. No, that's a bird. I know, but look what just happened. That is an incredible bird.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And they also have to do a bad, like, they do like those old chow, chow-chow commercials and they just back up. It fits right in with this stupid movie. Like they couldn't get a pigeon to really do that. I don't know, man. I think this, I don't think this is a big a leap in this film. But there's every single person in this square needs to have a comedic reaction to him driving by on what looks like, oh, look, it's a new kind of boat.
Starting point is 00:58:09 car driving by so what it just looks like a float in a parade you know what i mean it's not like the craziest thing anyone's ever seen in venice yeah but they all just are can't believe it what should have happened the dog i forgot about that dog's pondering it as well and then a guy gets a drink pouring on him a waiter pours a drink on a guy there's like seven beats of everyone is so stunned by this stupid hovercraft and then a guy falls out a bad guy falls out of the boat it's nuts it's not out of context it's crazy it fits it fits that it's so stupid? Like just,
Starting point is 00:58:41 but cananga balloon is more jarring. I don't know. I don't know. I like this spectacular villain death. Will somebody please edit the pigeon double take into cananga blowing into a balloon? I mean, Goldfinger got sucked out of a tiny hole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Someone, yeah, one of our listeners, please, and if you do this, Matt and I will send you a t-shirt that will buy from somewhere. We'll just send you one of our pre-worned t-shirts. We'll send you something.
Starting point is 00:59:05 You guys got to make a t-shirt. I know. Yeah. We can't even make an episode. Are you kidding? Let alone a T-Rour. Doug, what was the last time you're on this podcast? Is that the last one?
Starting point is 00:59:14 It might have been. It's fucking... Am I the only person you guys know that if you call us that C Moon Raker by Monday? Done. It's not on streaming, so I had to get it through the mail. We just flashed it fast. Oh, shit. We flashed the little...
Starting point is 00:59:30 Your Netflix, that, bruce. The gun barrel sign in the sky, and Doug goes to his movies. But as I was watching it, every single thing that I hated about it from... the whole time I've, you know, from the first time I saw it, all just came flooding back. It's still cool because it's a James Bond movie. Yep. I agree.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Let's talk about the tone that he has to play to get into the... Yeah. Yeah, that's like a strange reference to... Close encounters. Oh, close encounters. But also to pop culture. Like, James Bond doesn't usually have pop culture references. But there's some story about how he...
Starting point is 01:00:08 Cubby used that and then Spielberg wanted to reference Bond and something and Cubby wouldn't let him do it. Probably 1941. I can't remember what it is. So James has now broken into the glass laboratory, which if you're looking around, I can't tell if it has any of the same walls as the Drax apartment we see. I think they're in there. That laboratory is just in that giant room, which before I always thought they'd. just changed a room somehow. All right, so they're making something.
Starting point is 01:00:44 He finally sees these vials. There's some liquid in them. He needs to figure out what that is. So, of course, James Bond waits for the scientists to go home and steals it, and then gets into a fight with Glass Guy, which ends in, I think, one of the most beautiful sets they've ever done in James Bond. The inside of this clock, I think, is spectacular. It kind of reminds me of when you see the light in the circle, it kind of reminds me of...
Starting point is 01:01:10 a fight in one of the Star Wars. Oh, Empire, yeah. Oh, yeah. But that hadn't come out yet. No. But look at this. The lighting's beautiful. It's Ken Adams' last one.
Starting point is 01:01:22 He's amazing. I mean, Chang's been a boring villain until now, but the fact that he's, you know, whipping chains around Adam is pretty cool. Also, but then also, this is just to set up the comedy. Go way out of their way to establish
Starting point is 01:01:33 there's stuff going on below. This is just to set up the comedy. Totally selling that somebody's going through that window. Yeah. So stupid. At the crescendo. At the crescendo of an opera singer. Took him a long time to hit that piano.
Starting point is 01:01:50 They're not that high up. And I love how... Play it again, Sam, he says. Yeah. That one is just like, were there alternates? Yeah, yeah. Was that really, like, from jump, that's the one that, like, that is going to slay. I find it again, Sam.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I find it hard to, like, think that, like, he was such a big fan of Casablanca. You know what I mean? I don't know what's happening here. You have no defense of one of your favorite James Bond movies. It's not one of my favorites. Wait, you said you're way on board with it. I'm way on board, but I'm way on board with a lot of it. Is this your favorite Roger Moore?
Starting point is 01:02:22 No, you know my favorite Roger Moore somehow. It's like Moonwaker times one step further. Yeah. It's just horrible. I just love that because it's so awful. Yeah. And it just came out when he was... Yeah, it has a nostalgia effect.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I think I like Living Light Diet. Also, if you think about... Let's think about for a second. Let's think about View to Akil and think about the Parisian estate that Zoran has. And James Bond sneaking in around. It's the fucking, it's the same stuff. Yeah. Same shots.
Starting point is 01:02:53 You don't have to convince me. I'm just saying they really were out of ideas for 20 years. They really were. It really bothers me. Christopher Walken credits Saturday Night Live with giving him a better career because he would have stuck playing shitty villain roles for his entire life if he, if people didn't know how funny he was. Oh, wow. And then he went on to play a bunch of shitty movies. And shitty comedies.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yeah, in shitty comedies. He's just in a lot of shit. What are you going to do? I do. He's in some good stuff, too. I really like seven psychopaths. Oh, yeah, seven psychopaths. It's not bad.
Starting point is 01:03:22 It's got, uh... Same guy who did in Bruges, you know, so it's got a lot of the same... I just watched Dogs of War. Did you ever see that movie from the 80s? It's one of his early films, and it's like an action drama. It's strange movie. Really? Mercenary movie.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Tom Ferencher. I've seen King of New York. Lawrence Fishburn and Chris Walken Real good than that Let's move through this time I gotta go soon My motherfucking chicken or something like that
Starting point is 01:03:45 I just wanted to Play this scene between M and James Oh it's another M scene This is one of the best M scenes I think Yes I mean Q Q
Starting point is 01:03:54 The next Q scene The next Q scene is great Yes But you want to play the MC I got my initials mixed up Before you do that sir Have Q do an analysis of this She shows him a dick
Starting point is 01:04:07 I took him to exercise. Do I have anything? It is lethal. So there was an apartment. You better take two weeks' leave of absence, 2007. Do you have any thoughts about where you might go? No, you just told me. Always had a hankering to go to Rio, sir.
Starting point is 01:04:29 I think I can recall you're mentioning it. No.7. No slip-ups. Oh, we're both in trouble. That's awesome. That's like Judy Densh's M. Yeah. Letting him do things on the slide.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I really love that. Like just him going off book. Yeah. Doesn't need to stick around. All right. So I don't. I'm not sad that they killed off Judy Dinch. Oh, I'm not either.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I can't. I'm excited about it. I love Ray Fines. Ray Fines is great. And, yeah. I'm into it. Because she was just, she was like always bitching at him about everything. Well, the last three movies, particularly because.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Even when he do something good, she's like, eh, Jane, bleh. It was because he was like learning. know like this that was the problem i think that was the problem with judy dench uh daniel craig's judy dench yeah very different from pierce brosnan's judy dent you know james bond relationship because you know this guy at this point he's like a young upstart you know got to play by the rules whatever and then in the previous one james has the contention with her because she's replacing the old em and and she's a woman and all that stuff. So I, and that sort of speaks more to the character of James Bond for me, having a problem with this woman being in charge.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You know what I mean? Yeah. Then the reverse of that where all of a sudden now, James Bond's younger and. I got two questions about Miss Moneypenny. Yes. When did she stop full-blown flirting with James Bond? Because she's always trying to get with James. And in this one, she's just like, hi, James.
Starting point is 01:05:56 You know, she's not really that flirty. I think that's when it happened. This is when it happened? Yeah, because it was all the way up into the Brosnan years that the Moneypenny was flirting. MoneyPename is very flirty, yeah, but this one, in this, well, I think Lois Maxwell by this point. Oh, I don't mean Moonraker, I mean the Daniel Craig ones. She flirts all the way up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Right? Does she not flirt in this one? Not really. Oh, not hardcore. No, she's, because she's getting old. They're both getting old. It's just creepy. And I think that's exactly why they peeled that back.
Starting point is 01:06:21 But they still used her. And was this the first one where headquarters can just be in any random place he shows up? And she's there? Like, she's there all the time with a desk and stuff? They did that in spy who love me? Gun. Man with the Golden Gun? They're on that slanted ship. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's just such a funny concept to me that she's just like, where do I go today, boss? I'm in a hollow tree. And I'm going to set up all my stuff. I'm going to set up my cubicle. I know. Everywhere we have offices. Okay, so here's Jaws trying to murder one of the girls that has been helping
Starting point is 01:06:58 Jay's Bond, and he's about to bite her neck off. Rip out her jugular. Lift her up out to ground. Nope, now they're at the party. And now she's not... And she doesn't bother to scream or say help. No. Nope.
Starting point is 01:07:09 No. Now they're just having a good time. She just looks like a little puppet. And at Mardi Gras, that's an important place to let people know when you're being, you know, attacked. She's just letting it happen. Look how small she is. She's so tiny. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:07:21 It looks like... He must have been like, sorry I kept touching your butt. Sorry. I'm sure Richard Keel was a nice guy. The late great Richard Keel. And here James sees what's happening and jumps. totally parkors is a from a fight of six feet
Starting point is 01:07:36 now what oh man I wish I had a poisonous dart in my wrist that I could just shoot into his fucking face right now but I only packed these armor piercing ones for a guy with metal teeth but then here comes the revelers again and they really
Starting point is 01:07:52 they're all so big and they really strong that they how could he resist it I'm not a strong man I can't fight this type they should have at least had one of the girls be really hot and have him be kind of like excited that it's a cute girls touching him or something, but that's just dumb. But they knew that Jaws would be monogamous
Starting point is 01:08:08 and he was going to meet his love of his life in this one. Well, let's talk about that love of the life because that missed opportunity to not have her have braces is so glaring to me that I even remember. There's a long pause before she smiles like, here they come, she's going to have a big fucking mouth full of braces. To the point
Starting point is 01:08:23 that for years, I remembered it as her having braces because it seems so obvious, and every time I see it, I went, oh, that's right, she doesn't have braces. What the hell is they done? Glasses, pig tails. Why does Moonwaker take that opportunity to not be the most obvious film that's ever been made?
Starting point is 01:08:38 Because I think they were like, we already did a dog and a pigeon and a waiter and a... They already... They were keeping track. Why stop there? You're making a list of dumb things. Take out the dog.
Starting point is 01:08:51 So they've gone to Rio to investigate what's going on with Drax and they go to the gondola scene which of course has... Now this, if I remember correctly, didn't one of the stuntmen almost die doing this? I bet.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I don't know. I feel like I remember one of the stuntmen having it. It's pretty hairy. There's some pretty good shots that don't look like they look like
Starting point is 01:09:12 stuntmen are doing shit. A little bald guy controlling it looks like a Warner Brothers cartoon villain. It looks like a blank. He looks like a tour from Ed Wood.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Oh yeah. He looks like he was drawn by. Look at this jump. Look at this jump. Ready? I know. There's no way that. That was so weird.
Starting point is 01:09:29 He floated across. His hand is huge He gave him a head butt That kind of slowed him down a little bit there That was good Have you seen the United Airlines Has people fighting on top of one of these things In their safety video at the beginning now?
Starting point is 01:09:50 No, I haven't flown in America in a while United On one of these? Yeah Yeah, they've got like It's the weirdest They've got a really long Spanning the Globe
Starting point is 01:10:00 Safety video now that they show and it's ridiculous. There's people fighting on top of them? There's a scene in a gondola. For a few seconds, there's people punching each other on top of it, like, reminiscent of this. Like, they're referencing Moonwreck? But that's it.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Nothing happens. Like, you don't know why they're punching each other. Do they still play that Scott Joplin song? A little bit, yeah. Yeah, that's still their theme. That was my favorite Maya Rudolph sketch, time traveling Scott Joplin. There is no way.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I don't care. Like, maybe Daniel Craig, but to have a full woman hanging around your neck and just hold by two hands and go that steep, slide down. Look at that. Rear projection diamond pattern. That is suicide.
Starting point is 01:10:40 It's insane. Yeah, that's just craziness. But that's probably stolen from Star Wars. The swinging love with the girl hanging on it. Let's see the moment here. The moment of love. And here's how they let you know that's happening. Long pause before she smiles to reveal that she doesn't have braces on.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yeah. It's crazy. It happens twice. And that? And it looks. like Roger Moore's just sitting there watching that happen. And he was. Was he?
Starting point is 01:11:12 They're just sitting in the grass going, oh, at least he fell in love and won't come after us anymore. But ladies and gentlemen, that's Moonraker. And I have to go, but I want to say just a couple things. Yes, please. More about Jaws. He kicks Jaws in the balls, and it reveals that Jaws has steel balls as well, because it makes a Cang. What is the story there?
Starting point is 01:11:32 He's had some things replaced. I want to have listened to this when it comes out, and you guys have given me the back Sure. Jaws and Steel Balls. We'll be glad to. The other thing is the way this movie ends and then kicks right into a disco version of the song, Moonraker, justifies everything in the movie to me. When that happens, I go, I get it now.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Because disco was on its way out. Just the feel of it. They should have put that in the first. That's another thing. They were trying to take advantage of was disco by putting the Moonraker Disco theme. It was really a reactionary movie, like trying to, and it's sort of been that way with James Bond ever since. is always trying to adjust it to the times, and it's not always going to work. But imagine Jaws falling from the plane into the circus and then that disco version comes in.
Starting point is 01:12:15 You'd be fine from the beginning. The tone was set. Oh, yeah. It's 419. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I have to go. Dugs is going out for a different reason than yours.
Starting point is 01:12:23 We'll do our next one, which is Octopus is next, right? Yeah. And then for your eyes only. Yeah. And then Specter. Maybe never say never. Yeah, we'll see. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:34 You guys have never say it again. You guys have fun. Go, we'll wrap this up. We'll moonrake. I think you should watch Never Say Never Again, even though, you know, purists don't think it counts, but it's still interesting. That technically, Matt Goreley, would be the next movie that we have to watch. I think we should do that. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Let's do that. All right, then we'll do Never Say Never Again. John Barry version, too. That'll make it seem. Oh, that'll be interesting. Someone recut Never Say Never Again with John Barry score to make it the Eon cut of Never Say Never Again. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:04 With a gun barrel. sequence in? Right? I'm in. All right. All right. See you, dude. Bye, Matt.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Okay, so this is a very inappropriate kiss, I think, from Holly Goodhead. They had just fallen off a thing and then she just does it. Well, she says, thank you for saving my life.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Yeah, but. And he says, remind me to save you more often. Remind me to do it more often. And then, yeah, like, that guy that was just trying to kill us. Yeah. It's good thing he ran off with that girl.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And then, and then we have these paramount. paramedics coming in. What's up? Oh, thank you, but we're in great shape. Okay. And then they thump him. They're fake paramedics.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Although, she's CIA, but she never fights anybody, except at the very end of the movie where she needs James Bond to punch her. Yeah, she's suddenly very reminiscent of a Charlie's angel, that style of fighting when they're in the shuttle at the end. But this cue scene is one of my favorites. One of my favorite Q weapons is in the scene. So describe where they are.
Starting point is 01:14:14 They're in a monastery. They're in a Spanish-style monastery. But he's dressed up like the Marlborough man. He's dressed up as Clint Eastwood. And they actually got the rights to the music. The Sergio Leone music. There's some monks doing some fighting. Yeah, that's one room.
Starting point is 01:14:30 He looks in there. Okay, that's not for me. But now he's going to walk by Q in some of his... The first money panic. Yeah, oh yeah. There she is strangely all set up. Look at all this stuff on her desk. She's also dressed like she's in Manhattan or something. Bonds the other one that has to arrive on costume.
Starting point is 01:14:55 This is so great. Balls cue. Bolus, double-o-o-o-less. You idiot. And then this guy takes these three balls on strings and swings him around his head and then throws them at a dummy that's crossed up like a dictator. Boom.
Starting point is 01:15:13 But the way those things go around his neck and then the whole head explodes, I wanted that to happen to a person. Right. That would have been amazing. They just killed somebody like that. No, it would not. You can only kill a dummy that way. And then there's a stereotypical sleeping Mexican.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And then there's the laser gun. There's a laser gun. It's just melting a face. Like you'd need to shoot that at a made fake face to prove that it does anything. So they have to go, they've tracked down the orchid. It's a deadly orchid that does not affect human beings. It does not affect, I mean, it doesn't affect animals or plants. What it does affect is human beings.
Starting point is 01:15:56 It's the only thing it affects. So now we finally have seen that Drax is going for a perfect civilization. He wants to kill all the humans on the planet. and then repopulate the earth with the perfect species of human. And this is exactly the plot from the spy who loved me, except they wanted to start nuclear war and then build a civilization underwater. So this is instead in space. Now James has to go on the river,
Starting point is 01:16:25 and we have yet another river chase sequence where Jaws is dispensed in a foolish manner with a look-to-camera. Almost. Let's just skip ahead to where they get to the waterfall. Yeah, his boat is really tricked out, and one thing it does is it turns into a hang glider, so you can go right off a waterfall. I think that is a pretty cool. As far as Bond vehicles go, I think this boat is often forgotten. You know, it's very much like the fishing boat in World Is Not Enough. Remember, it had torpedoes and everything? It was Bond. It was a Q's retirement boat.
Starting point is 01:17:02 But this is cool because James Bond almost thinks, well, I'm headed towards the, the, Falls, what will I do? Oh, yeah, it's also a hang glider. That's why it's a hang glider, so you could pull this move on somebody. Yeah, it's reversed. None of these gadgets are made prior to the problem. Yeah, so he hang glides out of the boat, and Jaws just looks around disbelief and doesn't even make any attempt to get the guy to slow down his boat. He instead decides to turn the wheel,
Starting point is 01:17:27 and Jaws, being the giant strong man he is, rips the wheel off the boat. Yeah, just rips it out of the guy's hands, and then looks at it, of course, and then kind of laughs. It almost looks like that. That was a bad take. He goes, no, he says, oh no. Like, you look at his face. But look at the way he smiles at it when he looks at it.
Starting point is 01:17:46 It's ridiculous. Also, there's no music in this sequence. It's weird. How quiet it is. Look at 11940 seconds. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, no. Like, he shows it to camera.
Starting point is 01:18:03 When he goes over the side, but you don't really, it just kind of is a mess. He just falls into the... He could do anything. He could live. He could die. Who knows what happened to him. stumble into an Aztec temple where James Bond is thrown into a pit and there's a snake. Throwed into a pit by a rock that just...
Starting point is 01:18:16 Yeah, just... The lifting rocks. ...tosses him into the water. The whole lifting rock. Nobody has to go, come stand over here. He walks right into it, but then he kills the shark with one of his poisonous pens that he has on him. And then this is some great drax right here. Oh, I'm sorry, I missed it.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah, there it is. I love the way Jaws picks him up, the point of view of his giant hands. picking up his hand. He tries to hit him once just for the hell of it. Mr. Bond. He looks really pathetic. You defy all my attempts to plan an amusing death for you. You're not a sportsman, Mr. Bonn.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Why did you break up the encounter with my pet python? I discovered he had a crush on him. Not a bad line. George. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, in the realm of James Bond, one liar. Just that the villain is setting him up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Why did you kill my python? Why do you think, dumbass? So then we see we're at this base in Brazil where Drax is launching everything. And in order to... You find that he's launching... How many, seven of these Moonraker shuttles into space. So he needs a specific number of shuttles because he's got a specific number of people he needs to repopulate the Earth. they throw Holly and James
Starting point is 01:19:43 underneath where the shuttle lift-off tank is going to be, where the ignition is going to be so they theoretically would melt and die. They're going to get toasted, yeah. But, you know, James Bond has a gadget for that too, and it's a handy-dandy Seiko watch. Oh, he's got watches on both wrists? He's got, well, he's got
Starting point is 01:20:01 dart. The dart gun thing on the right one? I think DART's just a bracelet. Okay, but he's got stuff on both wrists, fortunately. Although not here. But we haven't learned about this. So here we go. There it is. He takes it out, and he's got a little weird.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Coil, it could be C4, it could be any number of things. And James Bond is ready to go. It's dental floss. Look at that charge right there. This is a heavy gadget use. I didn't really think about that, but this is a heavy gadget use. The cigarette case, too, with the x-ray thing for the thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:33 James has less gadgets now because cigarette cases are no longer something that people carry. Well, also, Daniel Craig's always wearing a T-shirt and pants, like, you know, jorts, so he doesn't even have a bang on time bang on time that is a quality punt when he says bang on time come on Doug you got to give it to him bang on time it exploded it went bang bang on time came out of the watch
Starting point is 01:20:57 they have to run they get on their own shuttle go to space luckily as we learned earlier Holly is a trained astronaut so she goes up to the giant space station that is Draxtown and of course in this movie When ZeroG happens, everyone somehow loses control of themselves and can't move quickly.
Starting point is 01:21:21 That's my least favorite thing about ZeroG depiction in movies. No one's moving quickly. Yeah, it really slows down the action. It's like a fight scene underwater. Yeah. Also, how are you sitting in that chair? How are you sitting in that chair? There's no gravity.
Starting point is 01:21:37 The guy floats across the room to sit in a chair. He should be holding the chair. Or at least straight. He wrapped himself in or something like that, but no, not even an attempt of that. Just as long as you're in a squatting position. So this does the old Arthur C. Clark method of gravity, which is to spin and hopefully they're restored gravity. So everyone's happy, everyone's walking around, they're all in shitty yellow jumpsuits. James is up there.
Starting point is 01:22:05 He sees that these... That's funny that they, right after Star Wars, that they blend in by stealing. the uniforms. Well, had James done that before? I mean, that had been done before, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's just still like so brazen.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Well, it is funny, too, how much the, when he first sees the DRAX facility where they're building the shuttles, it looks just like the top of the Death Star. You know, it just looks like the trench. So they figure out that this thing's not on radar. So they got to destroy the radar system so the Americans can send the space marines. up to save them. And here, finally,
Starting point is 01:22:46 Holly gets to punch people. She really dispatches him with an ankle to the kidney or whatever the hell that was. Like, it's very weird. Sit down,
Starting point is 01:22:55 removes the thing, and then, of course, on Earth, they decide to launch a shuttle. Oh, yeah, let's take a look at this. Jaws is smiling
Starting point is 01:23:06 at everybody. I do like that James tries to beat up Jaws one more time. Yeah, and then again, it just makes that clanging sound. Why hit his jaws? Why would
Starting point is 01:23:15 you're trying to hit him there. Let's hear it. Let's hear the... There's the nuts. Same sound. So his balls have obviously been either removed, or he could be wearing a chastity belt. Or maybe he's just... He's metal all on the inside, and you can only see it in his mouth when he opens his mouth. Whoa. Like wolvering. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:36 That would be amazing. But whenever he bends something, it's always just a bar that looks like a shitty prop that's easy to bend. So the space marines go up. There's a whole cargo bay full of Marines. Of course, we see that his girlfriend is up there. Yeah, Jaws is now realizing he's in love. And they're both not perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:04 And... He really looks like Dinklage is there. He really does. And he's just like, well, I can't live this life anymore. I've murdered hundreds of people. And now because I met a girl who I haven't even discussed the issue with at all. Oh, yeah, he does have a line in this. Jaws is a line to her.
Starting point is 01:24:25 And then they start fighting. Slowly and quietly. Yeah. Boy, there is no music in this movie. I love how James Bond is going to hit the button to make the whole space station shift directions or whatever. And he does this weird thing with his elbow to point out that the button. and is there to Holly Goodhead. He doesn't need to show it to her.
Starting point is 01:24:48 He's the one that's going to reach out and do it. It really does look like when you're watching this, you're assuming that, oh, Holly's going to do it. Yeah, he's like, do not use this unless secure it. And he's like, he's rubbing his eyebrow and pointing his elbow and like, check this out. All you got to do is reach out and grab that thing, Holly. And she doesn't, she doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:25:07 He just does it himself. She doesn't even, like, cover for him. Just, like, distract anyone or anything like that. But man, do people fly around a hello? hilarious way. It's like what used to happen on Star Trek all the time, where they would just run and throw yourself against the other side of the set. I like those guys in the chairs on wheels to just go shooting across the room. Now, of course, the gravity's gone, so everything's going to happen real slow-like. And it's like the underwater scenes in Thunderball. Really hard to watch.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Now, this space station starts blowing up at an hour and 52 minutes. The entire length of this explosion, I guess we should hear this. Yeah, again, let's hear the getting rid of Drax. So James has run off, the U.S. Space Marines are in there right now, just melting people with their laser guns. And James is going to run down his airlock to go get dragged. I like that backup. A little laser sound in the background,
Starting point is 01:26:12 just so you know there's a space fight happening out there. But where was Drax trying to go? He was going to go out that? I think it was going to his... I think that might have been a scape hatch. Out of my misery. Out of my misery. It's great.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I love how he's got the wrist thing after he changed into that jumpsuit. And that's the one that has poison in it, so Drax is starting to react to that. But then the way he just kind of like keeps backing up, not even acting like he knows what's about He doesn't know that he has cyanide
Starting point is 01:26:49 is going to die in 30 seconds. But that he's also pushing him into the hatch that he can open up on him. There he is flipping out into space. Say hi to George Clooney. So two of those pod things have made their way down to... Three of them have made their way down to Earth.
Starting point is 01:27:05 James has to get to the shuttle. Of course, there's some Bollinger right there. Let's pick that up. And this is now Jaws and Jaws' girlfriends. Goodbye. Oh, I wonder what they call her in the credits. That's a good question. He opens the bottle of champagne with his jaw mouth.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Well, here's two arms. That's it. It's funny that he has such a call. Yeah. He doesn't sound like the monster. He played so many bad guys. He was great. I already was really familiar with him before he showed up his jaws and was happy to see him.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And then why does she whisper in his ear? They don't want to pay her residuals. Yeah, they don't want her to have any lines. Because it's like, I guess she says, like she had to translate what James Bond said, or... I think maybe it was she was telling him how to help her, how to help. How to do it? Although, does that mean that she's like a crew member for Drax in that short period of time? She's learned about the station, airlock?
Starting point is 01:28:12 And they're both, her end, Jaws are both turncoats just because they fell in love? Why can't they still be on the bad team and just be in love with each of them? You know, I think they're aware that they're going to do. die and need an escape route also, so they get rid of the airlock, and they're good to go. So, oh, I went too quick. Yeah, Jay's Bond has that line about. They'll be okay. The station finally blows up after it had been exploding for 12 minutes. Real slow fuse on that thing.
Starting point is 01:28:47 So they're going to fire the rockets. They're going to... So they have to blast these out. They have to switch to manual control, which is like using the four. force Luke. The automated system goes down. They have to do it by manual. There should never be this much stuff after you kill the villain.
Starting point is 01:29:04 No, you're absolutely correct. They do it, yay, and then let's let's hear... Now let's play out the final hilarious sequence. At the end of just sort of repeating that there's always embarrassing James Bond's fucking somebody and they're trying to talk to him about stuffy British things. I love how they have that sheet type of him.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Should be going out at like animals. He's attempting reentry. Like, why would he say that? So he's saying that he knows he had sex with her already and he's trying to have sex with their again. Reentry? James Trying to throw that dick back in
Starting point is 01:29:54 Took me around the world one more time Why? They come back to Earth It's like interstellar They're both 100 years old Wait, I mean They're still young And everyone else is old
Starting point is 01:30:06 But yeah Here comes the disco Franco British co-production Scroll to the cast And let's see what's up with What demeaning name They give her Maybe since she had no lines
Starting point is 01:30:20 They don't even have to give her credit. That would suck. It's probably that girl. Boy, this is real bad. They took a bad song and made it worse. This font is even similar to, I think, Star Wars, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Blue one. There we go. Holly Goodhead. Tracks, Jaws, Corinne, M. Biggeray, Honeypenny Chang, and Willa. Dolly, is it Dolly? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:30:57 But Dolly sounds like that. like one of those sexy girls. Blonde beauty probably. No. Herka-Cabandish. Russian girls. Was she Russian? Fun ambulance? No.
Starting point is 01:31:11 I think they don't give her a credit. No, they got to give her a credit. I think they don't give her a credit. I got to look it up. I got to look up her name now. This is ridiculous that they wouldn't give her a credit. What would she be? What would her character be of all those ones we just saw? It didn't seem right.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Let's see. Moonraker. She must be blonde bombshell. Right? Right, but is that, so they're joking around? Like, ha, ha, she's a bond shell. Blonde beauty. Because there's a blonde beauty every other scene in the movie.
Starting point is 01:31:42 I don't know. All right. With all those Drax's girls. I can't find it on IMDB because that just makes it the cast list, which I'm stuck with the exact same problem. Right. How are you going to figure this out? I'm going to go to the Wikipedia. Jaws.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Somebody actually went to the trouble figuring it out and putting it in the wiki. Jaws captures Bond and Holly and brings them back to Jaws. Jaws and Dolly switch their allegiance. Oh, so she's Dolly. She is Dolly. Okay. Wow. Yeah, so that's Moonraker.
Starting point is 01:32:15 I think it might be my least favorite Roger Moore outing. Then you must be like Goorley and just are obsessed with, like, kind of enjoying how bad it gets. Yeah, well, there comes a point. You can't like this better than a view. I mean, you can't like octopus or a view to kill more than this. I don't think. I like octopsy more than this.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Octopus is terrible. When was the last time you watched octopus? He dresses up as a circus cloud. Yeah, he sure does. Gets a bomb out of a circus. Yep, a nuclear bomb out of a circus. Yeah, it's a lot of fun there. There's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:32:50 He looks so stupid in that cloud makeup. There's a lot. You know. James Bond doesn't maybe change into a tuxedo. You know what's funny. Somewhere Fancy. Octopus is one of the James Bond movies I'll put on when I'm, like, doing something else in the house and, like, I play it in the background. I really like the villain in that.
Starting point is 01:33:07 I really like the British Indian guy, whose name I can never remember. I think he's great. I think the only thing I liked about it, you know, the only thing that really stands out is a cool thing is when they have those chainsaws on the end of rubber bands. Yeah. Yeah. The slings shot a yo-yo. Yeah, they saw a yo-yo. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:33:26 but man like the way he gets he's just starting it Roger Moore's just starting to get old so a lot of what he does is just like you know it's not that impressive and he just sort of slips out of situations I could totally see that and Vuda kills Vuda kills just absolutely ridiculous so bad and then
Starting point is 01:33:42 I love I love I like the man with the golden gun quite a bit I like Christopher Lee I love Living Let Die Spy Who Love Me is great because it's this movie the first time I don't mind those three being
Starting point is 01:33:56 in the first three and you're Roger Morales, but I encourage you to see octopus again and really think about... You know what I'll be interested in? I haven't seen... The one I haven't seen in the longest is for your eyes only. That movie is weird. Yeah. It's really weird. Like there's that long, like, mountain
Starting point is 01:34:12 climbing thing that's like... Yes, they're up in the house by that. Yep, yep. So it's kind of cheesy and it's not that exciting. But it's got a... Topol, from Fidler on the roof, is the bad guy. That's weird. He's just kind of like kind of charming and kind of laughing about everything,
Starting point is 01:34:29 kind of. And Lynn Holly Johnson from Ice Castle is in it as a girl with a crush on Jay's Bond that he won't fuck. Right. That was a weird turning point. She's a skater, yeah. To have a cute girl that he's like,
Starting point is 01:34:39 he like throws her down at one point. She's so young. Yeah, yeah. She's so young. They had to make a point of like, I'm so old now, you're so young. So that's a weird movie. But one of the better theme songs,
Starting point is 01:34:52 the Sheena Easton song. Yep. I think, yeah. But so Moonraker stands on its own as like this very tonally wacky, wacky movie. It's a wacky James Bond movie. Yeah, but it's also still got so many the trappings of, you know, you know, talking to M and, you know. Yeah, it's very much James on a specific mission. Walking around in his suits.
Starting point is 01:35:15 He never asked for a drink, though. That's true. He doesn't drink. And that guy throws out a cigarette after he sees that casket. But the not asking for a shake and not stirred was more just like, They'd have to go out of their way to put him in a situation where somebody's preparing a drink.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Yeah. Yeah. You want a space drink? Yeah, they didn't have opportunity to throw them in a drink in a bar. Yeah, but overall, I mean, Moonracker is what it is. I'm, I don't know, I'm just very excited.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Did you watch the Spector teaser? You should make about a dozen categories. Best theme song, best this, best that, you know what I mean? And then really break it down by movie to like... Through all 23 of them? numbers to determine which movie is absolutely the best one.
Starting point is 01:35:59 That is, uh, I think we'll have to wait until Spector comes out and that we can have them all in there. Did you see the teaser? Spector's going to be the best one ever made. You think so? I think so. Just because they can make the best one ever made now. Daniel Craig doesn't embarrass himself ever.
Starting point is 01:36:13 He's great. We've already talked about Ray Fines is great. And, you know, and it can, you know, it can be ridiculous, but they're not going to do gags, really. You know, it's just going to be, the stunts are going to be out of control. and who's the villain? Christoph Waltz. You know,
Starting point is 01:36:32 how do you feel about Christoph Waltz? He bummed me out so much in big eyes. Oh, I didn't see it. He was so miscast in big eyes that like it suddenly just woke me to the concept of Christopher Waltz not being good in something because he's always so great. And so now I'm just sort of like, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:49 as the bad guy, is he going to be too much like, you know, Inglorious Bastards? Is he going to just go to that well? because that's because that's because that was already like a James Bond villain just being very charming but evil I love him I love him as Schultz in Django yeah he's amazing in that movie that is the one of the greatest movie characters and he's always having to talk people into things and in big eyes he's playing a guy that's talking people into things and he doesn't you wonder why anybody goes along with anything he ever says he seems like such a fucking liar yeah he just he makes this weird face like he makes his you know his teeth are out the whole time and I mean it's an interesting interesting performance in that he really committed to it. It's just, it needed to be like somebody, like Tom Hanks or somebody that could charm his wife into letting him take credit for the paintings for all those years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:36 You know, he's such a creep from the second you meet him. Well, he's already kind of creepy inherently. Kind of, but there's nothing creepy about the dentist in Django. That's true. He's just a charming guy in that. Like, he's a Professor Hill kind of character. I hope, I really hope that they, I really hope they use him correctly in this.
Starting point is 01:37:59 I think it's really, it's theirs to lose the best one ever. At least the second you're walking out of it, you'll say that's the best one ever. And then, you know, maybe when you revisit it, you'll go, well, you know, you still got to give Goldfinger a lot of credit for setting up all these tropes. Yeah, like I walked out of Skyfall thinking it was the greatest thing ever made. And now it's like, well, it's pretty good. Yeah, no, you and I have been arguing about Casino Royale for years. I think Casino is so great.
Starting point is 01:38:22 He gets the luckiest poker hand. All right. Thank you, Doug. Anything you want to plug? This will be out this week. Oh, just go to Douglovesmovies.com for all my stuff. All your Doug needs. Yeah, listen to Doug Loves movies.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Come see Douglas Movies Live somewhere. I'm sure James Bond will come up there as well. Yeah, as he always does. That does it for me. And for my co-host Matt Goorley, who ran off to go get fitted for more suits for Volkswagen. We say, good day. And James Bonding will return with Never Say Never Again. Good day.
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