James Bonding - Season 2 Finale
Episode Date: May 22, 2024Matt and Matt wrap up season 2 by looking back at the final rankings, playing some Bond guessing games, and discussing the exciting future direction of the podcast. Stay subscribed, more is coming soo...n. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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And this is James Bonding
Season 2
Final episode recap
But don't worry because we're going to be back
Yes, I'm also recording
an episode of James Bonding over here
It's really spectacular
The way technology has advanced
This is still not as
It's not nearly as far away from each other as we've been.
We've done episodes while I've been in New York.
We're doing an episode right now.
We're in our homes.
I've done one in Switzerland.
Oh my God.
You have done one in Switzerland, but not with me there.
In spirit.
And not person.
Yeah.
That's right.
We're wrapping up season two.
We're going to take this episode as a bit of a recap of season two, a state of the podcast,
and to tell you what's coming up in the very near future,
we actually talked about it a bit before this episode.
It sounds like a really sustainable model
and quite frankly, some really fun ideas, I think.
What do you want to start with, Matt?
Oh, well, I mean, they're on the edge of their seats right now
regarding what's happening.
Are we going to be going away while we fight Kevin McClory
in some sort of lawsuit?
Because he has...
help develop this podcast and it's going to do a reboot of it.
Oh, man.
A reboot of this podcast called the, what if we did this podcast?
Never podcast, never again?
Never podcast again.
Oh, what a dream, huh?
If we never had a podcast again?
I've lost my monitor.
I don't see, whatever.
I don't need it.
Oh, Matt, you're falling apart over here.
Everything's happening.
There's so much technology that is taking place over here.
It's hard to really believe what's happening.
But yeah, we are going to take a little break.
We said, how many times can we talk about James Bond movies?
The answer, of course, is infinite number of times.
Because every time we get thinking we're running out of topics, we find some more,
and we'll talk about some of those today.
And every time we think we've said everything there is to say about a movie,
we just watch it again.
Yeah.
So we plan to come back in October or November.
That date will be finalized.
In the meantime, of course, it's important to mention.
mention that we will see some of you in London at the London podcast festival.
I hope to see all the people who can fit in there.
Yeah, September, what's the date again?
14th.
September 16th, Matt.
16th.
Tickets available at kingsplace.co.com.
We'll also be recording a couple of things in the interim and hopefully releasing some
little tidbits.
So the important thing is stay subscribed.
But when we do come back...
We're releasing Tibbet?
Tibbet.
Yeah.
We're finally releasing him from the bottom of the lake.
What are you doing over there?
You're making so much noise.
There's so much happening.
It's not even funny.
Oh, my God.
He's just having a yard sale over there.
I'm having some trouble technically.
I cannot...
I've lost my giant monitor,
so everything that I had for this podcast,
i.e. are a wonderful chart.
A couple of things I had prepared is gone.
What do you mean you lost the monitor that just stopped?
It's out.
It's out.
So instead, what I'm going to do is just use one,
one screen like a real loser.
Sorry,
every...
Oh, you've got like a CSI computer hacker
screen system going on over there?
Yeah, I'm a computer hacker over here.
I need multiple screens
just so I can see all that...
I have to put multiple podcast ads up at all times.
I see.
I see.
And anyway, we're going to come back with a model
that works like this.
Every other week, there will be a free episode.
So there will be an episode
every two weeks.
Matt, do you remember back to when we first started?
How often does this podcast come out?
Once every eight months.
Well, actually, it came up once every two weeks.
And it was a great model, and we got ahead of ourselves.
And then it caught up with us.
Yes.
But to make this also sustainable for ourselves,
we will do an episode in the interim weeks on Stitcher Premium.
But hold on.
They're the ones making this possible.
And what we're going to do is do two things behind the paywall.
Regular commentaries on the films.
Yes.
And episodes with some of your favorite James Bond luminaries like Cubby Broccoli,
Irvin Kershner, Ian Fleming.
Who knows will show up in these episodes.
Timid Harry Saltzman might be there also.
That's right.
So don't subscribe to premium yet.
Wait till we give you a promo.
code.
Yeah.
And then hit that paywall with all our listening power that we can muster.
And that'll keep this podcast alive.
So again, just to reiterate, week one, free episode.
Week two, character behind the premium wall episode.
Week three, free episode.
Week four, film commentary, repeat.
Yeah.
And that'll go for half a year.
And then we'll probably do a whole series of those time and time again as long as it
works out.
Yeah.
We hope you understand that that's the best model for us.
And we also tried to, we had models that were just all paywall things, and we just said,
no, we got to give the listeners at least something half the time.
And we hope you understand that that's the best, I think, for all involved.
It keeps this show going.
It allows us to do it while also keeping it as a sort of job, which helps, and all of that.
So we appreciate your patience and understanding.
and more than anything,
we appreciate you listening to this dumb thing
because if you appreciate this thing,
we've got a lot in common.
Yeah, and we're excited to be able to keep doing it.
We are.
Very excited for the commentary track thing
that we have always talked about
but have not yet sat down and done.
Yeah.
And the breaks help us too
because it helps us recharge, you know,
because you take a little break from the movies.
Then you start Joneson to watch them,
again, which helps lift the energy of the podcast.
Also, some episode ideas that we have coming up, aside from the live show, which will hopefully
come out as an episode.
We've talked about the drinks episode, which we are currently planning with two wonderful guys.
And Matt just ordered two live and let die tarot card game decks.
So we want to do an episode where you can call in or email in or something.
We haven't figured it out yet, but we're going to read your tarot cards for you and give
you what is going to be a dependable and accurate scientific tarot card spiritual reading.
Yeah, I don't think there's any other tarot deck out there that are presented by Cubby Broccoli and Harry Saltsman.
You don't think they did the Oscar Wilde movie tarot card?
I don't.
I think that was just Cubby Broccoli.
By the way, what tarot deck are you going to find out there that has names like Tom Mankowitz?
and Guy Hamilton on it.
Not many.
Not many.
A chitty,
chitty,
bang,
tarot card book.
How's it?
I've done up a bit of chaty,
chitty,
bong, bong,
tarot cards.
I'm going to do,
I just like to look at the lovers.
Oh,
Mr. Fleming,
so nice of you to swing through.
How do you feel?
I'm actually curious,
how do you feel
about all of this merch
that has come out
for your character over the years?
Well, you know,
I'm only so sad
that I didn't get to reap
any of the benefits of it.
seems to all be going to
yarn productions, not to me
and my golden ice state and jammy acre
where I type on a gold type writer.
Smoke 173 cigarettes
per hour on the minute
and drink
my weight in vodka.
Sometimes I just bathe in it so as to
get it, you know, osmosis
of sorts. Yeah, you like to get
it in your body as
quickly as possible.
Most things, yes.
Are you familiar with a butt funnel?
Come again?
You know, the quickest way to get it rip-roaring good time, Mr. Fleming, is to just go ahead and just pour it in through the rear, you know?
Oh, I know what you're saying.
Here we call it a tea kettle tube, and it's basically the same concept, don't you see?
Sure. And you've done that.
I'm doing it now.
Oh, that's fantastic with your plumbing.
You know, we're going to go away for a little while,
but when we return, we'd love to have you on for a full episode.
Yes, my agent has been in contact about that.
I've heard that I might be coming on more regularly
in something called a premium paywall.
And I like the sound of that.
Finally, I'll be making some cold hard sterling pound silver
on this thing that you've all been exploiting of mine.
Yeah, sure.
We'll talk about a payment for you.
You sound dubious, old boy.
No, no, no.
We're going to work something out.
Great.
With Kevin McClory.
I'm very, very interested to once and finally meet Matt Gawley, don't you know?
Oh, I wonder if that's going to be possible.
I'd love to meet him.
He seems the dashing sort.
Oh, he is by far the more dashing half of this pod.
Ah, no, no, no.
I'm looking at you right now.
I don't think that's possible.
I think Matt Gawley is just runner-up.
sort of an also round, you know?
But one thing's for sure.
I'm the most dashing of a swall with my little curly locks, salt and pepper, you see,
freckled skin flecked like the haunches of a ham.
And quite a ham it is, sir.
I must be going.
Oh, take care.
Bye, bye, bye, Mr. Fleming.
Sorry, I had to go out to the grocery store real quick.
You are not going to believe this, man.
Oh, not this again.
Yeah.
Ian Fleming came by one more time.
Right, right.
Season finale in sorts.
He said he'd love to meet you,
and he hopes to meet you in the next season of James Bonding.
I'd love to meet him.
That'd be great.
Now, Matt, we've been talking a lot about this James Bond merchandise.
You know, you and I are fans of things that are related to our favorite movie franchise, you know,
up to this tarot deck and you know you yourself have occasionally sat there on the ebays and thought about buying a golden gun but restrained yourself somehow right uh i like to play a little game occasionally called how much is that ready
oh this is exciting okay yeah okay i'm ready i'm very excited so i'm going to let you know i've typed in james bond into uh ebay
Okay, and I'm sorting, I've not yet narrowed a category, but I'm going to sort by most expensive, okay?
Okay.
So the first question for you, Matt Goerley, is on eBay, the word James Bond typed in, how much is the most expensive item listed?
Wow.
I'll say, there's probably got to be something special up there.
I'm going to say 28,000.
Okay, Matt, you are very wrong. The answer is $51,000. Wow. And do you have any guess as to what that might be? Let me just say there's a clump of three that are $45,000, $47,000, and $51,000. Oh, okay. I should have known this. Is it a Fleming novel?
It is not. No? No, it is. The Rolex Submarin.
Oh, wow.
With the James Bond version, if you want to get into that on the market here, you're
looking at probably dropping about, you could probably make these guys an offer of 40,
and they'd take it.
Wow.
Now, funny, now I'm going to switch categories here.
So that was no category whatsoever.
You played that part of the game.
Okay?
I lost.
You lost a little bit.
But I am now going to switch categories.
and we're going to go with car.
Okay?
Oh, boy.
Now...
Wait, so it's going to be cheaper than $51,000?
It's going to be cheaper than a Rolex Submariner.
Now, there is a car listed on eBay.
Like a human car, not just a toy car.
A car that a human being can get in and drive, yes.
Okay.
Not just a knick-knack-sized car.
I'm talking full Roger Moore-sized vehicles.
and I will say that it is a car that is from the year 2003.
I hope that gives you a hint,
and it's $35,000.
What car do you think that could be, Matt Gourley?
What?
But is it from one of the movies?
Uh-huh.
Or is it just this is the same car that was in one of the movies?
No, well, it is the same car.
It's a car feature in the movies, not the,
exact car feature in the movies.
Okay, then I think it's like
Brosnan's BMW.
That is a very good guess.
It's actually more embarrassing than that, Matt.
It is the
007 James Bond edition
of the Ford Thunderbird.
That's right.
Jinks's car.
I was going to guess.
That and the Jaguar were the only other
I could think of it from that film.
Oh, man.
What a
vehicle.
There's part of me that's like kind of into the idea of having that car just because it's a V8.
Wow.
That is crazy.
So $34,000.
Now, Matt, we're entering into the last round of how much is that.
And I'm going to select the entertainment memorabilia subsection of E-Beebles.
of eBay.
And my question to you is,
in the entertainment memorabilia,
so obviously a car and a Rolex
are not going to be in that.
Yeah.
In the entertainment memorabilia
selection for James Bond,
how much is the highest priced item?
So this could be a prop from a film, right?
Yeah, could be...
A screen used prop or a poster.
Could be anything from like antique toy,
poster, screen used prop, autographs,
you know, the whole genre.
say $31,000.
You are now high.
28. I go back to my original.
You are now still high.
24. Okay. Still high. We'll take it down, split the dip.
19,000. Very close. $18,000.
Yeah. And do you have any guess as to what it might be? I will say it's a very fine condition.
Can you tell me if it's a screen used prop or like a promotional?
It is not a screen used prop.
I will then say it is a
the briefcase toy set
No, that's too expensive.
Maybe like a first print
Dr. No poster.
Oh, I'm going to give it to you.
It's a British quad
Doctor No poster.
Wow.
Now, the British quad sheet, as all of you
who may not collect posters, might not know.
A regular size movie poster is 27 by 40.
Picture four of those together.
That's how big the quad is.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, a Dr. No quad for $18,000, guys.
Linenbacked already.
You don't have to get that done.
So it's like that's what you put on a huge wall.
That is exactly right.
You would have to put it on a wall.
They're enormous.
They're like four feet by six feet.
They're crazy.
I got to see this thing.
All right, Matt's going to go take a gander.
And of course, I still want to buy the You Only Live Twice,
a bathtub poster, but I have yet
I have yet to do it.
Wait, I found one for 21,000.
How? Oh, are you in the entertainment memorabilia subsection?
Oh, maybe. Yes.
Really? What are you seeing?
Dr. No, Cine Masterpieces, Rare UK British Quad original movie poster,
21,000.
Well, let me say, I can get you one for 18.
Right now.
Wow.
Are you searching in one?
weird money. Do you have some sort of special eBay? I'm using specter currency, cryptocurrency.
Oh, well, that makes sense. Yeah. This is a fun game whenever you play it. By the way,
the $2,600 priced man with the golden gun poster, not poster, gun prop is still sitting there, Matt.
No, I can't. I know. I just can't justify it. I get it. I get it. Yeah. And this Pierce-Browsdon
signed golden eye action figure is 1750. I feel like that's got to be worth every penny to you.
I watched Mama Mia last night. Boy. Oh, the first one or the new one? The first one.
Uh-huh. Boy. Oh, boy. Also, I saw the new mission impossible. And when we were talking about
who would make a female bond, did we not mention Rebecca Ferguson? She's amazing in those movies.
We did not mention Rebecca Ferguson. I know she's Swedish, but she can do a
pretty good English accent. She's incredible.
She's part English. Let me ask you this. How was it? How was the, how was, how was, how was T.C?
It's pretty good. I think I like the first, the two that came before it a little bit better, but of the, like, I think this
late batch of these movies are by far the best. So I still really, really enjoyed it. Those, like,
they are three solid movies. So he's 56 now, which is.
Sawfills. Octopussy level. Yeah. It's crazy. He looks. Oh my God. He looks.
amazing, and I hope he does a few more.
They're fun movies.
It's interesting how much of a role,
strength and conditioning can play.
Yeah, and getting into an ice-cold sauna
right before you shoot every scene.
Oh, is that what he does?
Get tight-up.
That's what I'm told.
I'm first-hand experience that he has like a jacuzzi brought on set
with ice water in it, and he gets in it,
and it just tightens up his body.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd do it too.
Listen, if I had to run that.
I do it before every podcast.
recording.
Oh, you know what?
Let's do it.
We'll be ready.
Okay.
So that is your James Bond
memorabilia minute.
Lovely.
For those of you out there
who aren't aware
of the James Bond
Lego set,
the Aston Martin
DB5 is available.
And quite frankly,
I'm very excited.
I have ordered one.
So it'll be here
at some point.
I don't know when.
But I'm pretty excited.
excited about it because quite frankly I've never built anything remotely this complicated
in my life and yeah I don't know what I'm waiting for that is right up my alley I love Lego
and the fact that that thing's so complicated what I don't know why have I not gotten that thing
yet I don't know how much is it uh you can find them for between 150 and 300 dollars
those are why are they why do they vary so much oh really yeah it's eBay prices so like
I mean, if you do some smart shopping,
honestly, you're probably looking at spending about $200 with shipping.
Wait.
But they were 150 brand new, so.
Okay.
You know.
But are they limited edition?
Are they gone already?
I believe they are sold out, yeah.
Oh, shit.
Guys, this is the episode where Matt finds out about Legos.
Oh, man.
I got to do something, I guess.
I got to get on that.
Although, if they're not limited editions, I'm going to be so upset with myself.
No, they are.
Yeah, you can't get them.
Okay.
They were limited to 1,000, 10,000.
Oh, no.
I don't know.
10, 262.
I think that's just the model number.
All right.
Okay.
Well, what's next?
Should we do recaps or do we have another game?
Well, I think
Hmm
Okay, here's fun. Matt,
don't look, I want you to not have your infographic up, okay?
Okay, I'll put it away.
Put your infographic away.
Okay.
Now, obviously, we know the answer to the following question,
which is what movie was ranked highest by our guests?
I believe you know the answer to this, Matt.
Is it from Russia with love?
No.
think about...
There you go.
Think about our guests.
Well, yeah.
I mean, I knew that's us.
So I'm just talking about our guests.
Now, the lowest rated
James Bond film,
what do you think the answer
of that question is?
By guests only.
Die another day?
That's correct.
A one.
A double O-1.
Now,
the irony is
you and I
also hated that movie enough to give it a one.
Why is that ironic?
Is that fair?
Were we fair to that movie?
Is it really deserve a one?
Yes, because I think, I believe in using the full spectrum of your
007 rating system that we made up.
Like, that the worst movie should kind of be the worst score and the best movie should
be the best score and everything else kind of falls in between.
And that's what we ended up with.
Were there any other ones?
No.
Yeah.
I mean, it's lucky it dodged a zero to be quite honest.
I'm honestly surprised at how seemingly average a lot of the films are.
Can I look now?
You may look, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of, well, actually, yeah, there's really nothing that comes anywhere close to Diana.
day. The second closest is license to kill at 2.67. Wow, I'm surprised we went that low with that.
Was that you? It must have been our guests. Well, my license to kill was a three. Your license to
kill, 3.5. By the way, we need to thank Ryan Martin for putting together this infographic,
which you can find on our Twitter posts. But it's, this.
is, this is just great.
This is statistics at its best.
Yeah, so the average there, wow.
And then what's the next 2.83,
The Man with the Golden Gun is the next underperforming movie.
Yeah, but here's the interesting thing.
Below this on Infogram, he has placed the fan scores.
Uh-huh, based on...
Which is an aggregate.
people are listeners
now based on fan ratings.com you can go complete the survey
and add your own thing to there each score is based on
a GPA calculation of 4.0
being an A so it's a little bit of a different weighted scale
but I'm fascinated
casino Raos still triumphs
casino Raos still tries with 3.56 but
I'm fascinated by the fact that Dr. Noe is
it 2.77.
You mean so high?
No, it's just, I find that low for the first movie.
I feel like fans should be getting in.
Yeah, but it's not low compared to the average, though.
True, but there is not, there is not a huge
swath in the, in the fan rating system.
Do you know what I mean?
Like 1.24 to 3.56 is not a huge gap.
there is more of a middle ground with the fans than ours.
In fact, everything seems to be hovering around 2.5 except for the few good ones.
And then the only exception to that is the Waylow Die Another Day, which is at 1.24.
In fact, that's the only one that ranks in the ones.
Same for us.
You know what's interesting is if you look at your ranking versus my ranking and you click through it quickly.
Yeah.
You do notice a pattern with them, with you in particular.
What do you mean?
Look at the low, so your lowest, so you gave Tomorrow and Ever Dies 0.5.
Yeah.
You gave Die Another Day 1.
Yeah.
You gave the man.
The next lowest after Die Another Day is the man with the golden gun.
Yeah.
Which is truly surprising.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
I feel like the score for that movie should at least bump it up to a 2.5.
Yeah.
I also gave it a two.
I also gave it a two.
Oh, you did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is interesting.
And then...
This is fast.
It's weird to look back at this.
Yeah.
So let's just go take a look at the overalls here.
So Casino Royale gets a...
seven, that's the runaway favorite.
The next highest is from Russia with love with 6.5.
Yeah.
Then we go to Honor Her Majesty's Secret Service, which is a close run-up to that with 6.33.
Then next is Octopus.
6.16.
Oh, man, do you know how much we're angering Phil right now and probably 80% of our listeners?
But there's like a cool 20% there to just go on, oh, I feel so vindicated.
Oh, my God.
So that beats out the next one, which is Goldfinger, at 5.9.
That's amazing.
Then comes a tie between live and let die and skyfall at 5.67.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Is 5.52, the living daylights.
Then 5.13 for your eyes only.
That one really jumped this season.
It did.
It really did.
No, sorry.
Vue to a kill beats that at 5.17, then for your eyes only.
And then Dr. No at five.
Here's what I would ask that be added to this infogram.
I would like the names of our guests.
Just so that they have to be responsible for some of their choices.
Just because I can't remember who we had on for octopus.
Let's see.
I bet I can remember.
Who did we have on for octopus?
I feel like it was.
Roman Mars.
We had Roman Mars.
Okay.
That's why it's got such a high ranking because he boosted it.
Because we already loved it.
Yeah.
Okay.
He was a ringer.
Yeah.
And then my follow-up question is,
tomorrow never dies.
Who do we have this go-around?
Hold on.
I gave tomorrow.
This is no comment on the guest.
No, guys, we love all of you.
I know.
It's on the tip of my tongue.
Who is it?
I don't remember.
Christian Brune, is it?
Hold on.
I'll look.
We'll recap our guests here.
Just to refresh our memories.
Okay, so starting with season two.
Oh, it's Alex Schmidt.
Right.
That he gets me.
Right.
That's why.
Of course.
Of course.
Okay.
Hold on.
So let's go through these here.
This is so funny.
All right.
It's Gold and I with Steve Agee.
Goldfinger with Amanda and Maria.
View to a Kill with Kamail Nongiani.
Tomorrow never dies with Alex Schmidt.
Living Daylights with Daniel Mitchikoff, Jeff Crocker, and Matt Moust.
Licensed to Kill with Mark Bernardin
Skyfall with Paul Saboran
You only live twice with Paul F. Tompkins
Die another day with Andy Secunda
Poor guy
On Her Majesty's Secret Service with Maurice LaMarch
Diamonds are Forever with Christian Brun
Moonraker with Bobbock Ferdossey
and James Bladen
Man with a Golden Gun with Emily
Russia with love with Kevin Porter
Octopacy with Roman Mars
Specter with our wives
I forgot about that episode
The world is not enough with Danny Snow
Thunderball with Maria and Amanda
Live and Let Die with Phil Noble
Novel sorry
Four Your Eyes Only with John Ross Bowie
The Spy Who Love Me with James Bladen
Doctor No with Molly hockey
Casino of Salis with Amanda and Maria
And then never say never again with Ben Blacker
Oh my God
Yeah
What a hoot
What a fun.
I wish we,
I know,
I wish we would have done rankings
the first season
so we could compare
what really went where.
But didn't you say
that I didn't rate Thunderball?
I heard,
I had seen that online
that you didn't,
you did not give Thunderball a rating,
but I see that you hear you're,
you're down for a,
uh,
are you down for anything?
Am I not?
Oh.
No.
Yeah, I am,
I am missing.
Oh my God.
All right.
So,
Ryan, if you're listening,
I'm going to rate Thunderball right now.
What did you give it?
Probably a 3.5 I had to get...
Why didn't I rank it?
Did we just distract you?
You gave it a 4.5.
Okay.
And the guests gave it a 5.
I think I remember it coming up
in my esteem a little bit.
I think I'll give it
a 3.75.
Whoa.
These 0.7.
This is a new world.
You can't do that?
I mean, look, you can do whatever you want.
You're Matt Gourley.
Should I give it a 4?
I don't know.
No, I'm going to go 3.7.5.
Oh, gosh.
It's really killing you, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah, 3.75.
So maybe we could update that.
well that would probably bring the average down a little because the
Amanda and Maria had ranked it higher you give it a 4.5 that will probably bring it down to a
four point it's at 4.75 average right now it'll probably bring it down to a 4.5 or 4.25 or
I'm remembering I think I gave it the rating that I gave it based on how I watched it
which was skipping a lot of the water.
Yeah.
Fascinating.
Fascinating.
I can't put it.
I do like clicking between yours and mine.
There's a lot of negative space on Tomorrow Never Dies for me.
It's so funny.
Let's see what we got here in the James Bond News of the World here.
A lot of James Bond in the news mostly because of the Mission Impossible coming out.
Everyone's talking about Henry Cavill saying that he wants to be the news.
the next James Bond.
And I say
James Jan.
Yeah, I
do like him as an actor,
but I don't think he's got quite
the charisma.
Is that horrible to say?
No, it's not
horrible. I think, look, I think
look, if he
does it and he
is great, then I'll admit that he's
great, but right now,
quite frankly,
it's hard to look past Daniel Craig at this point
because we have this whole other movie that's coming out.
I know.
We're getting ahead of ourselves.
Production starts in December.
See, that's another reason we'll be coming back
in either October or November
because there'll be, you know, the press conference,
which we'll probably do a four-hour podcast on.
And then the news will start trickling in.
I imagine casting is going to be finalized pretty soon.
The last rumor I heard was
Helena Bonham Carter. There's, of course, the Angelina Jolie, and then the Sarah Paulson
underdog Dark Horse option, which I really like. But the, oh, did you see the casting breakdowns
went out? I saw the casting sheet. I saw the thing on the Guardian.
Yeah, here, I'll read the descriptions of the leading roles. If you don't want any spoilers,
skip ahead a little bit. But here we go. Male leading role, playing a
age 30s to 60s, Russian, also open to suggestions of actors from the Balkans are similar,
must speak fluent English, characteristics, charismatic, powerful, innovative, cosmopolitan, bright,
cold and vindictive. It's very interesting he could be 30s to 60s. And do you think that he's a villain?
He must be a villain? I don't know. I think that the age range is, I think they just open it up.
Like, they want to see whoever can be the best person for the part.
Yeah. Female leading role playing age 30 to 45, Russian, also open to suggestions of actresses from the Balkans or similar, must speak fluent English, very striking, strong, physical, fighting, stage combat skills required, characteristics, intelligent, brave, fierce, and charming. She's witty and skillful, a survivor. So do you think that's the protege role? And they've already cast this rumored female villain? Or is this the female villain in which?
which case that would kind of put all of those rumored casting people out of the running because
they're not Russian. I'm sure they could play Russian, but... Oh, I guarantee you they can play Russian.
Totally. But it's very interesting that they're going heavily Russian with this, which is very
of the time. I don't follow up. And normally I don't like of the time plot lines, but I'm so
into the Russians as bad guys right now that I'm sort of loving this. I like it. Of the time's
plot line because it just reminds us of where it's that. So like when we go back and we look at
license to kill, we get to remember the craze of the drug war.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Here's the last one.
Male supporting role playing age 35 to 55.
Mayori.
Advanced physical fighting, stage combat skills required, characteristics, authoritative, cunning,
ruthless, and loyal.
So, Mayori.
I think I have this.
I think I'm going to go out for that part.
Are you Mayori?
I could be.
I'm a Myra.
Myara.
Do you think that means they'll be going to kind of the area, like New Zealand or the South Pacific or where?
Because, you know, Bond has yet to go to Australia or New Zealand.
That would be a good.
That would be good.
What if there's like a G7 or G20 summit that's happening?
I feel like that's always a good place to start a movie, especially an international espionage film.
Like the UN building where they'd use ear dynamite.
well i mean you i'm not still not sure if you had to crank if that was like some sort of like
you know those like wind up cars that would spark yeah i'm not sure if that that plunger
was like just starting up something or like what was that doing i i think like was it just making
a noise did it just turn the noise on striking the flint that was what was sparking the
Wait, so you, wait, you are of the school of thought that it was actual ear dynamite?
No, I just call it that.
It was like a sonic, sonic dynamite.
Well, what, what flint would it be sparking?
You think this is all powered off of fire?
No, when you'd press that plunger, that's what would make it.
In the fictional world of James Bond.
Oh, sorry.
Matt, I'm not talking about real dynamite.
Well, it's just they use, they use a TNT detonator.
Yes.
For us, like a sonic electric switch, it's just weird.
Yeah, I just want, but I want to know, like, what in the, like, in the physicality of the real world of that object, what is that doing?
Oh.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, it was, no, it was like the one you turn laterally.
Yes.
I think it's like, you know how they have those flashlights that you shake and it's like kinetic, kinetic energy that powers it or something?
Yeah.
Yeah. It was that.
It was an eco-friendly...
Definitely.
Well, Matt.
I love...
I love this.
I love where we're at, man.
I love the fact that we're going to be back with so many new things.
I can't wait to read people's tarot.
I know.
That's exciting.
That's very exciting.
I can't wait to get into these commentaries.
I think that's going to be a new and fresh way to handle this.
I can't wait to welcome...
Here's what's going to be interesting about that.
And this might be something to entice our audience to come along with it.
us. Matt and I have rarely actually watched James Bond movies together. That's true. We've seen
Skyfall together twice. Yep, Skyfall and Specter. Goldfinger. We saw Goldfinger at the cemetery.
And did we, I think we watched Gold and I. Oh no, you and Steve watched it. I watched it
separately. That's it. Did I watch it with Steve? I think you did. Hmm. Um, but that's it. That's it. That's it.
Those are the only James Bond movies we've seen together.
So what you'll be getting in those commentary tracks is our honest-to-god first reactions.
And do we want to handle those in order this time?
Yeah, I think that'll be the easiest thing to do, right?
I think so too.
Yeah, that's good.
It's going to be fun.
It's good.
I'm really looking forward to that.
Me too.
And there'll be lots of fresh news for us to cover.
So stay tuned, stay subscribed, and stay alive.
we will find you.
I agree with all of that.
Yeah.
Stay alive.
Yeah.
Other than that,
you know, look for us on Twitter for, you know,
we'll probably update and stuff on the James Bonding Twitter and such.
And you'd like to once again thank Emily for all her help and work and helping us with that.
And look for her.
I'm sure to appear more on the podcast if she's willing.
Emily's not going anywhere unless she wants to.
Yeah.
And all of our guests, thank you again.
for putting up with all of this nonsense
and let us know if there's anything
we missed and we'll talk to you very soon.
Yeah, it was truly a great time
and I'm honestly delighted
that we get to keep doing this for you.
Same.
All right.
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