James Bonding - Skyfall with Paul Sabourin

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

It's the movie that spawned this podcast! Paul Sabourin takes a beat from Paul and Storm to talk to Matt and Matt about Daniel Craig's 3rd Bond film... Skyfall. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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James Bonding podcast, it's the James Bonding podcast. It's James Bonding. I'm Matt Gourley. I'm Matt Myra. Tonight, not only do we have a long time coming guest, but he's the author of the James Bonding theme song. Well, Jonah Ray. Whoa. Yeah, there's much umbrage.

Yes, I suppose. Well, let's get, let's finish this part, and then I'll... And there's also the John Barry and Monty Norman part of that, too. So let's just say, if we put those three aside and all respect and credit due to them, this is the guy that got it taught. That's right. This is... When a time to get put pen to paper.

That's right. And recorded it, produced it. It's Paul Soborn from Paul and Storm and so many other things. Paul, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Longtime listener, first time guest. Oh, yeah. I find that shocking.

I know. Well, we tried to make it happen first time around. But that was when you guys were recording every five and a half weeks on average. Sure. You're giving us credit there. I love that we came out so hot out of the gate. We were banking them. We had four in the can.

We were going and then we were just like, oh, dear. Yeah. But we finally made it happen. Well, now it takes a contract holding our feet to the fire. with ad dollars involved for us to do this on a regular basis. For ads, you may or may not hear. Because for some reason, it's hard to sell things. Well, it is what it is.

In today's economy. How are you, Paul? I'm great. I'm doing real good. I was, uh, I flew all the way out to the West Coast, from East Coast to West Coast, not just to do this, but it was a prime, uh, it was a prime mover of my decision as to when to come out here was, can I fit in at James Bond? Well, I'm glad we could accommodate you.

No kidding. Thank you. What is your history with James Bond? We like to ask our first time guests. I've always been a fan. First, yeah, I did my research. I got my little notes. I love it.

I have been a fan. The first one I saw in the theaters was Moonraker, although I was a little too young for it. Not so much for the movie. I mean, I understood what was going on, but it's not like I went, oh, boy, I get to go see a James Bond movie so much as. I was taken to the movies and Moonraker was what was there that day. And I enjoyed it fine and I knew it was a James Bond deal, but I wasn't huge into it. I didn't see, was for your eyes only next?

Yes, I didn't see that, but I did own the graphic novel version, like the novelization, but done comic book style of Free Your Eyes Only. So for a good 15 years, that was the only way I had seen Free Your Eyes Only. Marvel, DC or Indipare? I have no idea. I don't even know why I got it. Who gave it to me? Marvel owned it for a long time. from Russia with Love was airing on TV on like ABC and it was a very big deal for some reason.

And I got very impressed. Again, I'm not the biggest. I don't go take the deep dive the way you guys do. Is that the one where he has the jetpack? No, that would be Thunderball. Thunderball. Then it was Thunderball that was showing because I remember being very, very impressed because whenever a personal jetpack showed up on TV, whether it was in Gilligan's Island.

Yeah. Or that one clip from That's Incredible. Yes, which was the same jet pack Or from Thunderball So he's just one guy licensing his Thunderball His jetpack out to people Wow

Where is that jetpack? Oh, I bet it's Is it not? It's like the Yeah, I was going to say It probably is Which I have visited And we'll visit again

So I wasn't a completest I'm still not a completest Are there bonds you haven't seen? I have not seen This is where the shame comes out I have not seen a single Dalton and I was only two well don't feel that much shame

yeah I feel too shame then and I have seen I've probably seen all of the Brosnan's in bits and pieces but other than Golden I have never seen the other two well start to finish it's always been in like

it's always been in 40 minute chunks on HBO whatever there's not to say don't listen no there's a whole other movie you haven't seen because you've said you've seen Golden Eye but then you haven't seen the other two

there are actually three Well, that gives you an idea of my, what esteem I hold the Brosnan era in. In fact, they were just showing, again, they all run together for me. Is Die Another Day the one that starts with the... Hovercraft? No, where he escapes on the jet. Tomorrow never dies. I was watching that.

And I forgot, that's, that, in fact, does have his best strangulation acting on screen, I think. Well, some say it's the, I guess strangulation acting is not the same as torture chair choking. Well, the torture chair choking is great. Let's also give them credit for being squeezed by Zinia Anatoe. Right. Some great effort there. Boy, is he ever choked in die another day? Because that would really complete the quadrology there.

That's a good question. Hmm. Well, we'll find out soon enough. We're going to find out very soon. Oh, is there something I don't know? My choice? It's my choice tonight. You alluded to it earlier.

Let me get the truth. Let the truth come out, full disclosure, that in fact my recording of the James Bonding theme was in fact inspired by Jonah Ray's appearance. We were working on our, at the time, upcoming album, and I was a fan of the podcast. And I was doing anything I could to avoid working on it. And I was listening to that episode

where he suggested you guys need some sort of theme song, bonding friendship, goarly, my... And I said, damn it, that's a thing that'll distract me for. a few hours. So I put down what I was working on and I put through that thing together in probably about three hours and emailed it to Matt. You hadn't asked for it. I mean, I love that theme song so much. It really is like, it works so beautifully too, because there's parts of it we can pull for like going to add. That was planned. That was absolutely in my brain.

The podcast with the escalating. It's just a beautiful piece of me. It just, it just all just poured out of me. My love for the mats. gorgeous in every note yeah thank you well done paul and storm and thank you to john barry and thank you to jona ray really norman for the five creative forces behind yeah the five the five pillars if you did storm work on this at all he didn't actually i mean it really it was all it was a one-night deal he was it there you was there in spirit yeah that was me just recording against myself probably about storm 12 tracks dead to me how many takes would you have to do on each track like you pretty much nailed it every time that's how good you are i'm pretty good music

Yeah, I believe. And I mean, I was in a professional Acapella band for 12 years. I mean, that's the only credential you'd actually need to be on this podcast. Yeah. Wow. That's why I can't believe

you haven't had me on until now. I know. Well, I'm glad we've finally made things right. This will begin to make things right. Is that what this is? That's what this is. Oh. Now, as more preamble to the preamble,

can I please weigh in on the whole Cananga Balloon versus Pigeon double tape? And I have no idea where you're coming from. I am very much team Cananga Balloon, and I will tell you why. Now, that is not in any way to detract from Pigeon Triple Takes's incredible ridiculousness. The thing that puts Cananga Balloon over the top for me is Pigeon Double Take is intentionally stupid. It's got that British Richard Lestery elbow to the ribs.

Here's this little bit of absurdity. Whereas Cananga Balloon, I think Cananga Balloon, everyone was like, this is going to look so fucking awesome. I'm going to allow you to say that. Thank you, but that's big of you. And that's why it's because it didn't mean to be as dumb as it is. That's my main criteria. But that, you're, both of you having this argument. That is my argument for why Double Take is the worst moment.

because they spent time running the film back and forth, back and forth, and fucking decided to hit print. Well, there's only one way to settle this, and that's to go to Podswag.com slash bond and buy either a Canangad Balloon or a Pigeon Double Take T-shirt. They're available now, and it would make the perfect holiday gift for your podcast fan. Are you actually going to decide the question for once and for all? Based on T-Suits? Well, right now, based on T-shirt.

That's Cananga Balloon. That is how most issues are decided these days with my T-shirts out. You open my closet and a bunch of just purchased shirts rolled out. I cared that much. I would genuinely feel sad for you. I already do. And then I would be like, Matt, you should send these back. No, I must win.

Well, Matt, Skyfall is a very special movie for us and for this podcast because this isn't the movie that brought us together. This is our Genesis. This is our... Date Night film. This is our Garden of Eden. We bit the apple. That's right. Now, if you haven't heard this story before, we'll just make it quick. Matt was, of course, the gadget master on attack of the show. Yeah. And I was brought on via our friend Josh Flom, who works on that show and now works on Sidekick as well. Yes, he does.

Brought me on that the two of us could have a bit of a bond panel with the host, and that's how we met. And this was right when Skyfall came out. Yeah, I believe John Barronman was our host at that point. Arrow's John Barrowman, formerly of the Doctor Who's and the whatever the hell the spin-off was. Torches Wood. There we go. And we got to chat. Skyfall was out, or was it coming out?

It wasn't out when we had done, because I hadn't seen it, I don't think. Right. So when we did the panel, it was sort of like, Skyfall's coming out, and let's do this. Let's talk about all these best parts of January. Bond. So Matt and I obviously hit it off. And we, uh, we both then see skyfall. But then we made the decision of like, well, we need to see this in IMAX. Should we see it in IMAX together? Yeah. And we went to one magical evening at the citywalk at Universal Studios in Hollywood. Light drizzling. And you know, it was one of those nights where the stars align and it's the most special time

one can imagine because it's the beginning of the Christmas season. Oh, I love it. We're both out there in a coat. Where the eagles fly. You can see our breath. You can hear our breath. And you look. We were panted.

Up to the right. I injured myself. And you see the weather girls. And you think to yourself, boy, is this? It's raining then. And then a moment sets in where you're like, no, this isn't its raining men. This is a Weather Girl's Christmas song

that we didn't know existed, but the full music video played and so intrigued by this that Matt and I literally stood in the rain with no hats, no umbrella, and we watched this entire music video.

This is not how I remember it. It was, hang on, I have taken. is Matt. Oh, this is exactly how I remember it. It looks like it's set to golden girls clips. What is this? It literally was like, uh, wait, what?

There's another weather girl song? Now, we of course were intrigued by this. And I believe at Citywalk the entire time in the corner, it said, Weathergirl's name of the song. Yeah. And then you can hear them hitting the key. Oh, here it comes. Oh, right.

Holiday news. do have holiday news is, oh, God, is this going where I think it's going? Because I do not, I do not know this song. Oh, it's not snowing. Oh, if it, see, that would have redeemed this. If it was going to, it's snowing men, I would have forgiven all. Right. That's come up before. Like, that's the natural progression and it doesn't happen. Yeah. It's snowing men. But the fact that we both stood there in the cold in Los Angeles while it was raining in December, very late at night and watch that entire music video. We know, we knew at that moment. Without looking, each you just reached.

out to hold each other's hand. Friends for life. That's right. Lovers of James Bond. F4L. That's what it says on the tattoos you got, right? It wasn't long before we went to Village Bakery, together in Atwater Village, and plotted out what would be the James Bonding podcast.

I had no recollection of that moment until he just said that. I had O'Neill. Yeah. I probably had. The Germans wore gray. That famous line, I had Omeal, Germans were gray. I was back in the old Atwater, Gourley had Gourley had Gorses wore gray. orders. That's right. Yeah, good times. And here we are with Skyfall, the 23rd Bond movie. Do you realize that we have

now been loving Bond together for half a decade? Come on. Five years ago this movie came. And they've only gotten two movies out. What the fuck? Yeah. Actually, it was out before we did James Bonning. So really, they've only done one movie during our tenure as James Bonding. One hundred percent accurate. Yes. Wow. Come on, Eon. What did we do first? Dr. No, we did first, yeah, with Paul. Right.

That's right. And then to Skyfall with Steve Agee. Yeah. Yeah. But here we are with Skyfall. I got some big shoes to fill. Literally. Yeah.

In every possible way. Yeah. So this is a movie that I have not seen since that fateful podcast watch back in 2013. So it's been a good four years. That's interesting. You've not. They have not rewatched Skyfall. I put this one on quite often, even though, like, initially I was a little lukewarm on it.

And I don't know. I think I've said this before. I think it was because I watched too much trailers and read too much. So I wasn't overwhelmed by it the night I saw it. I wasn't underwhelmed. I guess I was just wellmed. But it is grown and grown in my esteem so much each time. And I keep it on my phone and my, like, iPad.

So pretty much I watch it anytime I fly. I just put a little bit on. Or like, we got a half hour to Lannning. Oh, I'll watch the opening sequence or whatever. Well. But this is the first time I've watched it in full in a long time. Yeah, I watched it in its entirety last evening by myself. My wife was like, what are you doing?

I was like, I got to watch Skyfall. She's like, I'll be in bed. Yeah, that's what Amanda does. Yeah, I hadn't seen it since. I saw it in the theater. Mm-hmm. And so in the last week, I went back and finally watched Quantum, which I had only ever seen bits and pieces of.

Sure. You didn't need to do that. I know, but I wanted to. I wanted to be complete. Congratulations, Houston Astros. Oh, well, there you go. Yeah. And then I've watched, so I've watched this one and a half times in the last three days now,

because I fell asleep about a little over halfway through. I totally get it. Is this the longest period of time during a movie before the villain shows up? That's a good question. Silva does not appear until over an hour into the movie. movie. Yeah. But I suppose, I wonder how far in does Christoph? He comes in at the funeral, so pretty quickly, like just for a second at the funeral. But what about Blofeld in Tully Savalas and on Her Majesty's Secret Service? Does he come in quite a bit late? What about Blofeld and you only

live twice? Yeah. I don't know, someone will have to do that. They will. Calculation. That's the beauty of it. Internet math nerds. They're there. Get on it. Paul, do you want to start with your initial reactions? Um, hmm. I, in some, I like this movie. Second time, I enjoyed it a lot in the theater. More than I think you guys did, or certainly Matt did, uh, goarly did at the first time in the theater.

Uh, this time around, I still enjoyed it, but I think I enjoy the sum of the movie more than a lot of its parts. Like, there's some parts I absolutely love. Yeah. And there's some parts I got real issues with. I fell back in love with his wardrobe in this movie. His wardrobe is phenomenal in this movie. That's why I decided to put on the pants and boots for today.

Oh, let me take a look at these. This is your Scotland bottom half here. You want to take, yeah, want to take a gander? Oh, look at that. Look at that. Five, five eyes on that boot. Lace it all the way up. I went off mic so maybe you didn't hear me say, holy crap. And these are, these are by far my most comfortable boots.

I've worn them. I walked one day, I walked 20 miles in these boots. Geez. They are a comfy boot, and I still have them, and so does Daniel Craig. He still has the same pair he wore into that water. Oh, yeah. For real? Yeah, for real.

It's crazy. Phil Nobiel, our man in the field. Our man in the sky. Our man in the east. He sent me a picture not very long ago, less than a year ago, of Daniel Craig at a premiere, wearing the boots. With a just wet footprints. They've never completely dried. It's a mystery.

Anyway, the first time I noticed, by the way, he's wearing the mid-sized Omega Aquatera in the entire Scotland scene. The James Bond watch I do not have. Oh, geez. I also think I can't overstate how much of my love for this movie comes from them getting Roger Deacons in to shoot it. Richard Deacons. Richard Deacons, what the hell's wrong with me tonight? Rick Diggins. It is Roger Dickens. Is it Roger? I thought it was Richard

Deacons. It's probably Roger Deacons. I'm happy to be upset. I just love the editing of Stuart Baird and his other Baird, that I know. Yeah, Roger Deacons. Oh, boy, I really fuck him. The way to remember that is he kind of looks like Roger Dahl. But you made me doubt myself

because you're such an authoritarian on these issues. Love or not experts. The only thing I can say to get away. from this. He's the MVP of this film, man. Every time I watch this, I catch something new cinematography-wise. And there's a lot to catch in this thing. Almost every scene in this movie has one of those images where you're like, oh, this should be on that one-perfect shot Twitter. I'm going to do a one-perfect-shot skyfall account. That's just Skyfall shots. And then I just do literally every frame of the movie in sequential order. I love it. I don't hate that idea. I support it 100%.

Okay. Yeah, this movie is beautiful. This movie is just unlike any other James Bond movie visually, I think. I've been really having a great time watching these movies for this podcast. It is a nice time of my day, especially if I have some other things to do, that's one thing. But to say, I've got to watch a James Bond movie today. Oh, 100%. Just the joy I get.

Last evening, I got home from work a little early, because, it was Halloween and a lot of the EPs have kids so they all got to go. We left at 4.30. Oh, nice. So I went, had to get a new tire for my car because I ran over a screw when I parked at Starbucks. I had to get two new tires

because they wanted me to replace both tires at the same time. Anyway, long story short, I was like, whatever, I'm going to walk home, sit down. And the two things I had to do for my jobs were watch the new episode of Star Trek Discovery and then watch James Bond.

I mean, what more could you want out of an evening? So the issues that you say this film might have, do they have to do with the plotting? Mostly the plotting. I have a horror of movies that involve a plan, years in the making that involve such ridiculous clockwork precision and prediction of people doing specific things in specific order at specific times. that just I just don't care for that kind of. It's the greatest flaw in this film, and it actually got me wondering that I can't find an actual correlation between quality of a Bond movie and successful plot,

because I have to say that this, I really like this film. Yeah. But the plot is awful. And it just goes to show that with the Bond movie, plots don't often matter. Yeah. And I'm trying to think, what are the good Bond movies that actually have a good plot,

and they are few and far between from Russia with Love, Casino Royale, on Her Majesty's Secret Service. And that's about all I can do. But even on Her Majesty Secret Service, I think, has a great plot for James Bond. But I think ultimately the villain's plot is bananas. You're right. It is. I would say maybe take that one off because the whole thing to do with allergies is so silly and stupid.

Even though it is from Fleming. Sure. But that's two. Casino Morale and from Russia with Love. Are there any others that, I guess, Thunderball's relatively straight? forward, just kind of a hostage nuclear thing? I think, you know, honestly, on the merits of plotting, Gold and I is very clear and succinct.

Because you have the former... It doesn't have one too many twist and turns like that. No, you have the former agent who... Always love a good former agent plot. Yeah, who you think is dead, who isn't dead, who's actually the bad guy, and he's got this plan... Yeah, I guess so. To do this because of revenge.

Yeah. We got through the Living Daylights plot. but it was so complicated that I would say that people have tweeted us by the way the cocaine price setting no license to kill yeah that's sorry I still don't understand that's all right did they manage you get it down to a single tweet they did I still don't get it so that's just on me all right I mean that really just goes to show that plotting just doesn't seem to really matter skyfall I think is the case to be made for that it's the most popular James Bond film ever right it's the biggest successful. I think adjusted for inflation, it's not. No. I think gold finger is, but it is,

you know, certainly of modern times that is by far the most successful. Over a billion dollars at the box office. Just that movie. Yeah, and the plot is ridiculous. You know, it's not, it's not so ridiculous when you're just, like, first time letting it wash over you. I agree. It gets ridiculous when you start to look at it, but it holds together just enough on first viewing that. I did start to look at it today, or yesterday. And there's a couple things that I, that I was like, well, wait, why didn't they do this? And I don't know if we're going to go plot by plot of the movie, but... How would you like to do it?

This is your movie. I'd like you to choose. Well, I just, I think we should just start. Let's just walk through. Let's just start going. Let's just start going. Okay. Because I got notes.

Great. Yeah, me too. I mean, for the first two-thirds till I got tired of taking notes. I know. That always happens to be. My third act notes are Fight, fight, fight. You know, J.K. Rowling tweeted about this movie

A couple days ago. Are you kidding? No. Your close personal friend, J.K. Rowling? My close personal someone had retweeted her and I saw it. I've got a few of those. But someone had tweeted about the fact that if you were to cut the air brakes on a train, on that train, the car would, the train itself would automatically come to a stuff.

stop and that the movie would have been over in seven minutes. J.K. Rowling's response was... Rolling. Rolling. I already think I know where this is going and I like it. Was, as someone who is currently writing a screenplay, plotting is the hardest part, people like you could go to hell or something to that effect. See, especially for things like that, minor technicalities that, like that, like of someone

who knows pneumatic brakes systems and stuff, that's more about pointing out what they know about pneumatic breaks. I don't care about that. It's like what you're saying, that cause and effect logic that is so bananas that Silva would be able to foresee all that's happening. It still doesn't matter. I really enjoy the film. We're going to talk about it to merits, I think, this entire time, but it is worth mentioning that those things, and not to jump too far ahead, but even, for example, when Bond is chasing Silva through the train tunnels, and Silva blows up, that's the biggest one, blows up the ceiling so that the train will come come down on who?

Did he know Bond was going to follow him? So he took the time to pre-plant explosives in the right spot to allow a train to fall on Bond. And the train's going to come in exactly that time. Yeah. It is, that is by far the most silly coincidence thing. But even more silly is the fact that he would have to know how long it takes Q to crack his computer.

Yes. He knows he's going to plug the computer into the network to unload the virus at this point. And that it was going to. going to time out perfectly with the hearing so that he could go attack him at the... It is, yeah. It was inquest or whatever it was. That portion of the movie is by far the most crazy, lucky plotting. Yeah.

So that's off the tape. Oh, and he also would know that when he blew up her office at MI6, they would move to a particular... Actually, he wouldn't necessarily have to know that. But he would be able to figure out, okay, if they move me here, then I'll be able to escape by killing two people, having a, you know, one friend walk me through this anti-room or whatever. I don't understand how he killed those two guards. Right. But I think he threw his teeth insert at them like a boomerang, like a deadly boomerang.

Like a deadly boomerang. Maybe he wound them up and they just went, yeah. The, I buy that Silva being an agent at Station H would know the emergency protocols, depending on, you know, if he's a double O or something, which I think he is, right? I think, theoretically, if he's a double O. I think he knows the emergency protocols of Station H. Sure.

But to rely on them cracking the Granborough code at exactly that time. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. But this is stuff that's just willing suspension of disbelief. You're buying a ticket to a Bond movie. Yeah.

You're signing up for this stuff. Yeah. And I like to look at the Bond movie as a series of set pieces. They really are. And you know what? This movie delivers set piece after set piece. Not only that, but it delivers in the connective. tissue, which a lot of the Bond movies don't, because I think the dialogue and character scenes in

this movie are some of the best in any of the bond. And you know why they work really well for me compared to a lot of them is they don't go. I'm sorry to say this to a Moore fan, they don't go for a lot of cheesy one-liners. There's a few, and I think they're the weakest parts of this movie. I agree. But for the most part, they just go for kind of wry, you know, vocal grabassery or some wisecracken, but they don't go for the arch line. Yeah, and I appreciate that. It doesn't fit Daniel Craig's. I don't like my Moore and my Craig and my Craig and my more, but I love my more and my

Craig. Now, do you think this is, that was John Logan's? How much this do you think is John Logan's? I remember you guys have this talk about Purvis Wade versus. The great mystery of James Bond. Now, but he was let go from Spectre. Here's the situation. Right?

Who was? Logan, right? Logan, yeah. And how do we feel about Spector now? No, that's not so it puts us back in square one. This is an interesting thing and I think I've brought this up before. There are two key people in this movie who are responsible for the death of Star Trek. There are two key people involved in this movie.

John Logan. John Logan and Stuart Baird, the editor. Stuart Baird was given a chance to direct and the movie he directed was Star Trek nemesis. Now, which Logan wrote, Story by John Logan, Brent Spiner, and Rick Berman. So that is Story by John Logan, Red Flag, and fucking Red Flag. You don't want... Like, I don't want to go to...

As much as I love Daniel. I don't want to see Story by Daniel Craig and Michael G. Wilson when I sit down for a Bond movie. Well, that was Quantum of Solis in many ways. So, and the problems with this, Stuart Baird, great, fantastic editor. If you look at his editing work, he... He's one of the best editors since fucking Thelma. Just the cold open alone. He edited this movie.

Yeah. Yeah, it's really well. But, you know, his direction of nemesis left a lot to be desired. He changed the whole color scheme on the bridge for no reason. He just thought blue, red better. He didn't know. He thought Jordy was an alien because he had weird contact lenses. Didn't realize he was a blind human being.

No, come on. He didn't think. Even I know that. He didn't think Michael Dorn's voice was deep. enough because you look like such a crazy alien. He's a Klingon. So they digitally deepened Dorn's voice. And they made a story that while that is not great.

I mean, I'm not going to do it justice here. Go Google it, nerds. Go to go watch Red Letter Media's review of Star Trek nemesis. That's all you need to know. That's not good. There it is. I didn't like it. I hated it and I didn't like it and was she a great big fat person.

Would you? So, yeah. So that's my, that's sort of my John Logan indicator. But then, so. J-L-I. Yeah, the J-L-I scale. Those were directorial choices. No, but the plotting of that movie also is.

Okay, yeah. Gotcha. So I just think it's interesting that these two people were so heavily involved in my other favorite franchise. Right. And they killed it. I'm curious about that with Paul Haggis, that Casino Royale is my favorite bond and Crash is my least favorite movie I think I've ever seen. Yeah.

Yeah. I wonder how that happens. Well, I mean, as always, Paul Haggis, you're invited to be on the podcast. God, you do this every time I do. Let me ask this. I don't have an answer. Yeah. Did Paul Haggis do Casino Real pre or post Scientology?

That's a good question. I'm not sure. It was certainly... I don't want to get into a whole thing here. I think it was during. I think it was during, yeah. Because that article he wrote came out after. Yeah, you're right.

Right. Yeah. Okay. So... Want to talk cold open? Yeah, I'd love to talk about. Love this cold open. Very first thing I have in my notes that I want to talk about because I've seen at other places,

but it's very prominent in that opening, out of focus, walking shot. Yeah. Landing and hitting the lightning. Well, yeah, that's, I mean, that's a nice little over DP thing. But Daniel Craig walks. like a weightlifter in that he's kind of swinging his torso around like he's got this bulk and I see him do it in Casino Royale but I think I think part of it is that he is a he has a muscular frame yeah honestly I think the other part of it is his wardrobe he wears such a he wears a very

tight yeah that's what that's what I was going to ask how much of it was wardrobe how much of it was his bulk and how much of it is just a character choice I'll add a third thing that this shot specifically is so out of focus that to get a silhouette, he probably had to spread his limbs slightly because everything's so blurred. I'll take that. Although it's not even so much the arm spread, which it is, but it's the way he sort of swings around, like pivoting around his own waist. It is interesting, though, that it's an immediately recognizable silhouette.

Yeah. Yeah. It also, though, looks like, I don't know, something almost out of war of the worlds or Slender Man or something is so out of focus. Yeah, it's a little unearthly, yeah. It's really interesting. Yeah, so the movie starts off. We don't know what Bond's doing.

Right. We're in media res. That's right. I want Ronson for my I was there too podcast. Oh my God. That would be so great. I love that. I want, I want like a 10 minute short about Ronson and what happened in the 10 minutes

before that movie starts. And there are other dead agents there. Yeah. But he seems to really care about Ronson. Yeah. I mean, who doesn't? That guy's great. Also, why is that information on that one laptop hard drive?

Just the one. That's a good question. Because movie? Because plot device, yeah. Why is the knock list on that one? Because McGuffin? I didn't write many notes on this opening sequence because, you know, it's well-recorded my problem with the CG in this film.

But it does not... How did you feel about it this time around? I still glaring for you? I still want to see that opening sequence cut where they get on the motorcycles and they cut right to the bridge because it's just a... bunch of winkery, I think. It's funny because I didn't notice it at all the first time I saw it in the theater. And between then and now, obviously, I heard you do the podcast about it and point out the

CG faces. And it was all I could see during that sequence. Nothing happens on the motorcycle. I look for it. I just ride on rooftops. I, um, yeah, I, I, I, I, that's the one part. There's no cause and effect. I suspend my disbelief a lot for any good action sequence.

And as well shot as that is, like, I just don't buy the, let's take our, my motorcycles across the roof. the Turkish market. And it's not an opening sequence that's lacking for remarkable things. First of all, the little car chase in the bazaar and him getting out with that little pistol machine gun. And then, of course, the backhoe thing, which is incredible. Which leads me to red flag problem number two of the movie. What?

There, Bond has gone for how many months? Three months, right? Oh, do they say? I think they do landing number on it. Three months, six months, whatever it is. Eight months even.

It is not until he cuts into himself pulling out the bullet fragments that they decide to test the bullets. Rather than testing any of the 9,000 rounds he fired into everything

in Turkey. He was firing. I looked this up. I went to the, I ran a Google search for guns of Skyfall. Sure. And there's a whole,

there's a wiki page for every Bond movie and not that I'm super, my knowledge of guns comes solely from my playing of PubG and modern warfare. Sure. But that said,

I appreciate gun nerdery like that. He's got, it's got a hundred round magazine that when he pulls out that Glock the first time, that's a hundred rounds. That's incredible. So, needless to say,

there's probably a couple of bullet fragments of it. In a potato somewhere. Who is looking for the man who stole the list. Yep. Who has, who's looking for the man who's, you know, tangentially responsible for the death of Ronson, two other, I assume, double O's.

Maybe they're just two other agents. Right. Yeah. And James Bond. Like, I feel like it would be the full force of MI6 investigation happening here. Yeah. leading me to think, oh, well, obviously. Well, what you're discounting is that Spectre's behind this entire thing as we learn in the next movie,

and they could easily cover that out. Spectres got like 30 agents scattered throughout that bizarre cleaning up bullets as they're plumbed going into things. It's the little broom. It's the one guy that doesn't let his broom touch the ground. He's a Spector agent, the guy from Quantum. Also, I don't know enough to know is a uranium debapeutic. depleted bullet, does that mean it's been depleted of its uranium and so it's not radioactive? Depleted uranium, and I'm going to get the details wrong on this. Depleted uranium casings itself is soft, but you can treat it through a classified process to make it harder than a titanium casing. It is usually used for armor piercing rounds because when you fire a titanium casing into armor, it flattens in mushrooms. Whereas,

the depleted uranium casing vaporizes. It superheats and vaporizes, so the bullet or the cartridge bullet, whatever, the bullet retains its shape, and when it goes through, that superheated uranium heats up and sparks and causes fire

in theory in the tank or whatever heavy thing you're looking at, which is why this particular site said there's no reason why you would use depleted uranium casings on bullet, that are being fired out of a handgun because you don't need to pierce armor with them. And I think it has something to do with such a lower, such a lower bullet speed. Because if I'm not mistaken.

Short version is it's just a fancy, cool thing to say in a movie. But it has no actual purpose in, like it doesn't hit you harder or cut you in half. Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't depleted uranium one of the densest, matters known to man. Isn't like a small one inch cube of depleted uranium super duper heavy? I think that might be part of it.

It's that... It could be part of it. The only part I remember reading was that you treat it and you make it, it becomes a lot harder. Which I also imagine picking up a hundred round magazine full of uranium, not going to be a very easy gun to handle.

Picking up a hundred ground magazine of anything. It's not going to be the accurate gun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, movie. All right. But Patrice can do it. I like this guy as a henchman, too.

He's kind of like somehow ambiguous but also distinct. Yeah, he's got kind of some interesting sort of graying color thing happening in the short hair. Yeah. Can we talk Moneypenny? Or excuse me, Agent Eve. Yeah. Spoiler alert. I really dig sassy Money Penny.

Oh, she's good. Sure. Naomi Harris. Harris is great. Has super great chemistry with Bond that while theoretically kind of sexual, especially in the Macau. sequence isn't really. Like, I think they just got a really interesting... They did a good job of updating their...

Yeah. Yeah. But it also leads us to the age-old question of the James Bond floating timeline. How so? This James Bond owns the Acid Martin. That money penny was around to see. You're telling me there's two money pennies? What are you telling me?

Wait, what? Tell me something. This James Bond... The James Bond, the James Bond that is in Skyfall, the character of James Bond. Do you think that this James Bond has gone through the previous 20 movies? No. You do not. I don't think so.

No, because they clearly make that the case for Casino Real. This is a reboot. No, I know, but there's so much downtime between... Oh. I think there's some... I think he's gone through some, but I think there's theoretical downtime between Quantum and... Skyfall? I don't think the Ashton Martin has happened within that time frame. How does he have it?

I think it, I thought they kind of establish it's a relic. Like it's, they make some, some jokes sort of, I get the impression it's older than him. Oh, he's off, he's off the stand. Wait a minute. He's pacing the room. This is meant to be in, in many ways, like the same Aston Martin, he wins in Casino Royale. I know that there are technical difficulties about something about a driver's side and all that stuff. But that's like the brakes on the plane.

I cannot believe... It wouldn't have machine guns behind the headlights. It wouldn't have an ejector seat. And said, now go to town on this. No. It amazes me, frankly, Matt Myra, that a person that's this big a fan of a series like Star Trek

could overthink details like this. This is unlike you, sir, and it is beneath you. Yes. Just enjoy the movie. I don't want to overthink. The movie to me is better the way I think of the movie. So you think he got a whole new Aston Martin. But what does this have to do with MoneyPenny?

Okay. Because MoneyPenny is new. If you, yeah, MoneyPenny is brand new to Skyfall James Bond. Yeah. But MoneyPenny is not brand new to a James Bond who has gone through Goldfinger. Goldfinger. Yeah. So my question to you is Daniel Craig's James Bond in Skyfall.

Did Daniel Craig's James Bond? James Bond once stop a guy named Goldfinger at Fort Knox? No, I don't think so. So do you think he has that ahead of him? Well, he doesn't have to either way. It doesn't have to be a world where a Goldfinger exists. Oh, it does in my mind. Well, it could be.

It is in my mind. But I think there's an implication that between Quantum and Skyfall, he's done some missions and now he's aged himself a bit. Here's the deal. Yeah. I mean, they play him so old and haggard in this movie. That they do. They play him as someone who's been through those 20 missions.

Well, I don't know about 20, but yeah, a fair amount. Man, I think you're going to get some disagreements from our listeners. It's going to be some strongly worded tweets. Because I'm not going on the strict number 20. Yeah. Okay, I'm not saying it's those 20 missions. But I agree with you. I think he's had some history in between those films.

Yeah. Do you think he has, I mean, it's the messy. of like when you start to think about. But you should, you don't have to think about it. They're not asking you to think about it. Okay. Can I distract from this argument that doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive anytime soon with a, with a gloft and then a question. Oh my God.

I don't even have a gloft. It's sort of a gloft. It's not a huge gloft. But speaking of gunnery again, uh, when they, boothroid, come on. Doing that. I don't know what that means. That's from the, uh, what, the first episode? Uh, Paul.

Yeah. It's the, it's the guy. that rode into Ian Fleming to tell him. Oh, right. Yes. Oddly enough, it is relating to the Walthy PPCA. Great. In that when they're having the chase and they stop on the bridge, MoneyPenny comes at him from one side.

Yeah, she's got a Walter PPPK. Yeah, it's like standard issue. Yes, I liked that touch. That was definite conscious choice of that touch. Yeah, that can be a, that is a franchised gloff. You are licensed gloft. Licensed the Gloft. Noted and approved.

Notarized. Thank you. It's a Pagloft. Paul's Gourley's. Yes. Now, thing to look out for. I just,

it's like Ruse Chris. The only thing that, the only thing that, um, the only thing that fuzzies my James Bond timeline that I keep in my own head is the money penny of it all. Otherwise, I'm happy for the world to exist.

Like, even if he does do 20 missions, she just happens to come in here. I think he's been with a money penny. And someone named Moneypenny or another secretary? Well, that's where it gets confusing. That's where it gets confusing, Matthew. It's not confusing if it's a question that doesn't need answer.

You know, I'm sure there's at least one person out there who agrees with me. I'm sure there's somebody that's got an angel fire page or something all about it. But let's get back to this opening sequence. Oh, now here's my question. Yes. If you don't mind me jumping to the backhoe. I forget what your opinion was on the cuffgege. I love it.

Okay, good. We're all in agreement. I love the cuffgege. That's how the Daniel Craig movies do humor well. Yep. And not with the one-liners. Yep. Thank you.

You know, Barbara, big fan of that moment also. That makes sense. Yeah. What's the over-under-on when you get Barbara on the podcast? I think never because she'll probably sue the pants off of us for a number of things, up to and including the use of the trademark Don Jock 007 logo on our posters. Right. Also the music to the theme zone.

That's parody. It's fair use. I guess. Wait, can you parody a melody and use it as it? I thought you had to. You could make it. Why are we talking about this on mic? Yeah.

Let's talk about copyright law a little more. Okay, so what else is going on? That's our opening sequence, I think, to move on theme song. Yes. I adore this theme song. I do too. It's up there for me. We should also say that I just learned something new that Skyfall was not the original title for this film.

It was, Nothing is Forever, which to me falls in that category of innocuous and vague, die another day, tomorrow never dies, the world is. not enough. World is not enough. Gets a pass because it's on the James Bond crest. Fair enough. But it's still, like, if you look at the Fleming titles, they're very, most often specific. You have certain ones like live and let die, but moonwaker, doctor no. Honor Majesty's Secret Service is, is...

Thunderball? Yeah, Thunderball. And Skyfall falls in those things of, like, Skyfall is nothing else you've ever heard anywhere. I really like it. Coming at it from outside is a person who's never read the Fleming novels or anything like that. Skyfall's got that. I think this is what you're getting at. It sounds like it means something,

but you're not quite sure what. Yeah. And but it manages to pull it off. It's intriguing enough. Yeah. And what it ends up becoming, his ancestral home, but also a theme of the world crashing down and the way Adele uses it in this song, I think is great. And I will tell you exactly why this theme song is so great, beyond the fact that it is using the same sort of rising and falling chord structure as the as the standard James Bond theme. It's the way she sings that specific, we will stand tall. She's sort of between notes twice in there where they're kind of out of tune, but they are so perfectly out of tune.

Oh, wow. That it sets a mood. I don't even know if I'm describing it adequately. No, you are. She does that particular thing and she does it just right and it is perfect for Bond and it's perfect for the mood of the movie, and it just sounds awesome. And that's, but it's like, it's a skill, like to, to know how far you can bend a note without breaking it.

Mm. And she, and she does it, like, in two notes in her, like, just from one note bent to another note bent, and they're bent in different ways. And it's, it just, I, I fucking love, love, love it. What's your take on the Sam Smith song writings on the wall for Specter? It's a yawner for me. It just doesn't do much for me at all. It's trying to replicate that Adele.

It's like, well, Adele did a slow song, and, you know, lyrics and bond songs are always kind of banal. And, you know, the Skyfall lyrics are nothing to write home about. Except for nobody does it better. But, well, except for nobody does it, but you're right. Which is the only, maybe the only theme song I like better than Skyfall. But if you all, you guys should check out, too, Phil Nobiel's write up about how the lyrics are really about M in that song, and it's an interesting way to listen to it.

But it's a birth movie's death. Yeah, Skyfall manages to get the banality right, I think, in a way that a lot of them don't. And, yeah, the Sam Smith thing just sort of, it sounds like a sort of bad photocopy of a photocopy of what Adele, what he thought Adel was trying to do. I completely agree. I thought the Sam Smith song was lacking in many ways, and I cannot believe it won the Oscar. I can, though, because I think Academy voters go, oh, a James Bond song. Yeah, Academy voters don't know what they're voting for on. music, so I...

It's weird that they give out an award for that. Yeah. It'd be like if the Grammys gave out an award for best use of a song in a movie. No, best movie that had a song. Right. Yeah, it'd be for best monologue in a movie that has a

song in it. Best monologue. I will also say, I was telling Matt this before we were recording that I went to watch Quantum. No, I guess I did say during the recording. I watched Quantum before I watched this, which I had not seen all of before. And the opening sequence, not just the song, but that whole opening sequence is so much better

than Quantum's. I can kind of give or take Casino Rae. I actually like that song better than I think either of you do. The casino reallel song? Yeah. I like it. He loves it. Yeah.

Okay. I've come around on it a little bit since he has passed. But the opening credits, they're all right, I guess. They kind of go. The whole card theme and the animation. It's nice, but, you know, but, I, but, I'm not. I like, like, like, Skyfall managed to get the feel of the old, you know, naked ladies writhing in silhouette, but still. Michael G. Wilson, during the commentary, goes, no, these ladies were good in the, in the water, too.

What? Meaning what? Like, like, I was, I went down there that day. I went, of course. They said, they said, because the statement, the following statement occurred. Daniel Craig goes into the water. And then Michael G. Wilson said. Daniel's great in the water.

I had to get certified to scuba dive, and I went down there just to put on a mask and watch underwater when the ladies did there. And then the ladies are in the thing and he's like, those ladies were great in the water too. Did he say it kind of leeringly like that? A little bit. Like, he's like, I was on set that day.

And by in the water, I mean. The amount of time, by the way, these two, Michael and Barbara spend on set It's staggering They're on set, I think, every day Let me tell you, I kept that water At 32 degrees Fair night

So that was my favorite Of the commentary Which I got probably 30 minutes into That was my favorite thing Michael G. Wilson said, Nope, scratch that. Uh-oh.

We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Okay. We'll get to it. Okay. Well, the opening titles themselves visually, with that song.

What an impact. And you're right, though, there are scenes where like a girl is pointing a gun at the camera and you just see her face and at times could be like, oh, am I in a Maurice Bender title sequence right now? They really are darkened back.

And it's also beautiful how much of the movie has worked into the title. When you're watching it, it's just nonsense. And somehow without giving it away, though, too, it's crazy. Right. So when you first see the movie,

you have no idea what those images mean. It's like the mission. It's like the Mission Impossible movies in that way. Right. I wouldn't know. Yeah. Are they against your religion?

Well, I just haven't seen anything post the third one. That's right. We talked about this last one. Oh, yeah, I was just listening to that on the plane here. Apparently the best one. Yeah, you're missing the two best ones. That's true. Do yourself a treat.

Although three is quite good. Three gets... Three, I enjoyed quite a bit. Three gets undersold. We don't see more Hoffman, who never got to be a Bond villain. So let's keep going because Matt's already yawning. Oh, no, that's hot. Old man, goarly's already falling.

I yawn all day every day. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's all I do. How wonderfully British is Ray Fines? God, he's great. In this whole movie, but especially in the opening where he's sitting sticking his gut out a little to make him look more slumpy. I guess I do have a gloft.

Oh, okay. I didn't realize this because when he first stands up and ends in his office and he does his arms akimbo. Yeah. I didn't realize that he, I'm going to go off Mike for this. But he doesn't just do arms of Kimbo. He first. sticks his thumb in the waistband of his pants and then hangs his hands. His thumbs are

into his pants. I have to believe that we talked about his posture last time out and it stands. Best posture, any James Bond movie. Hands down. Ray finds looking great. Barbara loves the color of his suits and how they match his eyes. Yeah. Well, he's wearing all blue. At one point, blue tie, blue shirt, blue suit. He's almost always wearing blue. I wonder, I would like to hear the costume design. Are his eyes blue? There's a little bit of a discussion of that. I'm sure that has something to do with Barbara is big fan. Big fan of Daniel Craig's blue eyes. Well, who isn't? Those aren't even blue eyes. Those are like their own new color. Yeah. Craig blue. Craig blue. And clue. They. They. Bleg. Yeah, that's bad. Talk about the

the scene at the beach. I never was fully bothered by the CG Scorpion until this viewing. Is it CG? I missed that. See, I'm just wondering if I have some kind of sensitivity to that. No, I just, I wasn't watching it so closely because I was busy writing a note about just playing a game of drink scorpion with the boys. Another night.

Cribbage or Drink Scorpion. By the way, what is that game supposed to be? Drink it without getting stung in the face? Yeah. And people bet them. on you. And people bet whether you'll do it, yeah. And then do you, are you supposed to, are you supposed to, trap it into the, under the, well, according to the league rules of drink scorpion, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, I believe you have 10 seconds from the time the scorpion hits the

wrist to the time it has to be underneath the glass. But isn't it incredible that, I think that part of the, the two things that give that CG away, it's not the scorpion itself. It's a, the shadow doesn't look good. But also you can, even a scorpion like that wouldn't weigh so little, but you can still tell with the movement of his hand

that there's nothing on there. It's like watching somebody drink from an empty coffee cup. Yeah, yeah. And that's bothersome. Even in, I was watching Stranger Things too, and they went to the trouble

to make vintage tin cans. It's like, couldn't you put some liquid in there? You can tell people are holding nothing. Oh. You know, it just doesn't look the weight,

doesn't look right to you. Yeah. Well, you know, someone who played a trash can at Disney. I didn't play a trash can at Disney. I was a trash can at Disney. Your candor is off the charts. It's true.

We also have, my notes say, random Turkish sex lady. Random Turkish sex lady? I never realized she was nude. For some reason, I caught it this time. I noticed this especially when I looked over and realized my daughter was doing homework.

to me, my 15-year-old daughter. Did you say, honey, come here, take a look at this man's chest. It's perfect. No, although she made a good comment coming up in a little bit, actually, which we'll get to. Can't wait. She otherwise really wasn't carrying your way. She probably was just most enjoyed the wolf blitzer came in. Well, who doesn't?

She's in it for the wolf. Wolfman. In it for the blitz. Powerful scene with Judy Dench and Ray Fine. Oh, God. How great do they make just two people sitting in chairs? I know. But the way they're sitting.

sitting full on straight at her and she's got like like she's riding side saddle on a horse. It's framed so beautifully. It's so good. Thank you. Richard. Robert. Richard. Robert.

Reff Deacons. Roger Deltrieks. This movie, the dialogue is so good. This movie, uh, I was going to mention this later, but let's talk about it. Now, this movie is rife with rife. Rife with Rife. It is rife to Rife with top notch British stage actors. Sam Mendes.

That's why. Judy Dench, Ray Fines, Rory Keneer, who plays Tanner. Helen McRory. Ben Wishaw. Was, I guess, real famous for his hamlet. Who? Or is he? Tanner's Rory.

He plays Tanner. Roy, yeah. Not Robinson. No, he's Tanner. Okay. Yeah, Roy Kineer stands. He was in Quantum of Solace, and Sam Mendes boosted his whole presence in these films just because he had worked with him so much in theater.

And also because he's great. I love Tanner. Yeah. Well, the character of Tanner, you know, which is a character that has appeared previously in your James Bond things. In the Brosnan era. In the Brosnan era, there was some Tanner action. Oh, yeah.

Tanner action. So, I've always enjoyed Tanner. Yeah. He's a... I really hope Rorrikaner owns a T-shirt that just says Tanner action on it. He's a favorite. The Tanner and the Brazins, I love because he's just... I love him.

He's just so over it. Middle-aged divorces. Yeah. Man. He probably wants James to tell him about his latest conquest. But to get back to it, like, I think that's one of the reasons this movie succeeds so well for me, even when I don't like a lot of the details is these, like, great freaking actors just sell and make you believe what you're watching.

I will also say there's only 14 to 23 British actors. That's true. Not counting everyone on EastEnders. Right. That would then expand it to 55 British actors. Right. So it's just good to see everybody again. It is true.

That's true. This was everybody that wasn't working on Pirates of the Caribbean. Pirates of the Caribbean or a Harry Potter. And yet, the only people that recur in Bond movies as different characters are Americans like Joe Don Baker and Shane Rimmer. It's crazy. That is so weird. So crazy. I guess Charles Gray, he's British.

Sure. And he has that fake leg, right? It's fake leg. That's right. Yeah. This scene with M and Reifines, just these two. dialogue scenes. The scene with his psychologist

interrogator is so good. The scene with MoneyPenny when they're shaving. The scene with Silva. The scene with Severeign is it? Severine is one of my favorites in a lot of Bond movies. I love that scene. At the bar? Yeah. These just these two person scenes are written so well. I'm dying to know who's writing these scenes because they all fit.

But I got to think we got to give credit to Sam Mendez and whoever is casting directors, to get people who had chops. I mean, you know, to have, you know, the, what amounts to the secondary Bond Girl have as good chops as that actress whose name escaped. She has... Baranice Marlowe.

She has great acting chops, except for one moment in this movie. Hmm. It's when he asks to see her employer. She gets a little too shaky. Lil, yeah, the cigarette gets a little too shaky for my tastes. Maybe.

I think they could have shaved that down 34% in the CG and post. Maybe that's because many of these people come from theater. and they got to be seen from the back of the house. You know what? I accept that answer. Done. They got to see it in the back of the old Vic.

Let's talk about the fact that Bond does surgery on himself with a fucking pocket knife. I mean, presumably if he's going to do this, he could get a scalpel. He probably spit on it first, to be fair. You know what? I think he just was so annoyed at how slow everything was moving and was just pissed off that no one had tested the 900 bullets that were shot around. They're probably in the room next door, just a huge piling of them. in a bin labeled to be tested. Yeah.

So I think he just, he just so frustrated. I liked it. Oh, I also, speaking of his wardrobe, I even like his little sort of workout sweats from this whole scene. I have those shoes. I have those sneakers. Oh, the gazelles,

the gazelle twos. Thanks again to James Bond Lifestyle for letting me know what James is wearing at every scene. Oh, before that, when MI 6 explodes, my daughter's one comment, I didn't even know she was really paying that much attention. She looks up after that. She says, you know, this looks like a real expensive movie,

but that explosion just looked like that app you have on your iPhone. It's interesting because I noticed that this time, too, but when I first saw it, thought it was impressive, and that just goes to show how even five years out and these things your eye gets trained to. Because I got to tell you, Michael G. Wilson thought they did a great job with that explosion. I personally laid the...

The charges. Well, the sort of digital dynamite. that allow them to do this. And then my cameo is in that scene. If you look, I'm up at the top of the building. I've got some pigeon friends up there. You can see me waving. I'm keeping pigeons.

The way Barbara says comments on Michael's cameo in this movie is delightful. It's like real sibling like, ugh. Yeah, that is fucking cameo. There's your cameo, Michael. Meanwhile, I'm doing all the work.

I have two more notes from the whole, MI6 training thing. First one should be like, I wrote five of these while you were a baby. By the way, did you notice really quickly sorry?

Oh, sure. That in the end in M's office, the main picture above behind him is MI6. Like an abstract beautiful painting of the old MI6 that just blew up. I never caught that before.

There's a loft. Second loft. That's right. I love Ray Fines read on don't cock it up. Don't. Yeah. Don't cock it.

And it was the perfect line. Again, about the dialogue. That's the perfect line. That's the perfect line for him to say, to give you a sense that he's kind of cool without going over the top on it. But I love, sorry I'm late, the PM does prattle on in a crisis. Does prattle on in a crisis. This is the first time, by the way, that I've ever seen a James Bond movie and when I don't want to be bond as much as I want to age into M. Yeah.

Like, I'm sure that was partially my age, too, but he made M look cool to me. Yeah. Just. falling in love with that, that Ray finds as an M situation. And Judy Dench, having 17 years, she was M for 17

of the 50 years of James Bond. So how long was Bernard Lee M? He was M until Moonraker, so 62 to 79. That is 17 years also. Wow. That would seem to be the tenure for M. Well,

Rave, let's see if you get, Let's keep that posture. At this pace, you got one more movie in you. But what if he's doing it when he's 80, his posture is not going to get anything like that. You don't know that. You haven't stood like that for any length of time. No, that's what I'm saying.

No one, I can't. The suspenders, too, look like they're just pulling them back. Just the right angle. When he does that posture, you know, it's giving him like his own self-indulgent wedgey. Just get a little bit more up there. Mad end. Mad and, Mad and, James Money Podcast.

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I enjoyed so much about this movie. I really find the physical tasks that Bond is doing as part of the tests to be reactivated. I find them to be. I just, you don't, I didn't notice until this viewing of how beat he is. Yeah. Yeah. While he's doing them. Well, when he's, when he shows, when he shows, when he shows up in M's apartment.

Yeah. They particularly have him made up and lit to look about his gaunt. It looks like Skeletor in that scene. He really does. He might as well have just been carrying a spotlight underneath his chin. The line from M. They run out of drink where you were. Yeah.

Just like, oh, you're bloody well not staying here too. Yeah. Like, that's insult to injury. I also was thinking, like, remember she's in that super modern apartment in Casino Royale? Yeah, and she moves into John Barry's apartment. Well, it's got to because she also mentioned her late husband. So her husband dies and he's,

probably this big modern head and she's like, I'm getting back to... Yeah, I was going to ask about that. Like, he died somewhere in the middle there. Yeah. Because, was it in Casino Real where you see her in bed with some? Yeah. And when they go to her apartment, you get to see her bathroom in Quantum of Salas. And it's more in the modern line, I think, too.

I do love that beat. We sold all your stuff. Yeah. And, well, we sold your apartment and put your stuff into storage. You should have called. It's great. It's a great, it's a great, like, beep.

I enjoyed that quite a bit. The only other note I have for the MI6 is that sequence is where they're, he's identifying, like they pull up the three people who use depleted uranium rounds. Right. Yeah.

In their Glock. And when he's identifying Patrice, he taps on the screen a couple of times. And it just bug, I just, well, the whole laptop. No, don't do that. I got to clean that now. Picky, pick,

oh, that's what got you. I noticed this too that I didn't catch this last time that they say the CIA let us, like they're on to him for this Yemeni ambassador assassination. Like they're going to get him. But they're just giving him this information that that's where he's going to be. So presumably the CIA just went, well, let's let this guy kill him because you'd think if the CIA is telling you that they know he's going to be there at this point, why don't they intercept him?

Why does Bond get the luxury of going after him? Is it the CIA saying, we know you need this information, we'll give you that favor? It also could also be, we're not doing great with China right now, so we want to go in there, go for it. And he kills the assassination is of a former MI6 head, right? Because that is the person in the photograph with Judy Dench. Whoa, I don't think, wait a minute, I don't think I put this together.

So that's the other guy that ran Station H. with M. The guy that gets looking at the painting. Yes. So where do they say that? That is a Matt's lookout for this. Yeah.

Big plot point. Mloft. So the photo of Judy Dench that talks says think on your sins, right? So she brings up the original photo. And the original photo has that man standing next to her.

He has a red X over his face. Because he has been killed. Oh, I never noticed that. Wow. So he's the guy that gets shot in the back of the head. Otherwise, why else is Silva killing that random person? Yeah. For the painting?

I don't know. No. So, what is the ruse that they got in there for? To buy that painting. That guy really does want to buy that painting. He wants to buy the art. Oh, wait. Okay.

I'm sorry, I was missing it a little bit there. So you're saying the guy that got killed in Shanghai? Shanghai. That was assassinated. Wow, I never made... I assume that was just kind of an assassination. No, but it doesn't make sense. He's not into that.

He's toppling governments. He's rigging elections. I just took it as a we don't know what's going on here, but it's... That was a pure revenge. Good, good catch. Okay, well, all right. Good catch. Can we...

Specifically, can we, Matt Myra, you and I talk about Bond's overcoat when he's going into the museum to meet Q? Okay, that's perfect. Yeah, sure. Is this, is this all, is he all Tom Ford in this movie? No, he's not all Tom Ford.

So that overcoat, I believe, is Tom Ford. When he switches to the pea coat in Shanghai, that's an American company, Billy Reed. Okay. That was originally Daniel Craig's peatote. And he said, as in he owned it. As then he said, hey, he should wear this one day. Yep. The top, I believe the top coat that he wears to the

museum is a Tom Ford top coat. That sort of half-length top coat, I just, I fell in love with it, watching them walk up those steps. You know, I cannot sing the good grace is enough of the half-length top coat. You know, and it's something I wore a lot back in the, back in the early aughts when I worked in a funeral home for four years. I was in Massachusetts where it can be cold. It can. It was a big fan of a top coat. It just kept my bum warm and really just let me be there to help everybody out through this trying time. But the two coats in this movie,

my favorite coats, I own both of them, the Billy Reed P coat and the barber shooting jacket that he has in Scotland. Oh, right. That green jacket that he is easy to keep shotgun shells in.

Oh, that coat, by the way, if you want to buy the... I have the version, not the limited edition, that they made that Bond is actually wearing in there they then sort of remade that coat and called it the Commander B okay so it's the Commander Bond

code but the original quote of that is from a Japanese designer and that coat costs if you're to buy it aftermarket now it's like $2,000 to $4,000 for that coat geez welcome back man expensive welcome back to Kotok I want to give a report

on Q's hands now I know that this is not Desmond Lewellyn. So with Ben Wichita's hands, he's a GoldenEye minus 23. Golden I minus doll hands. He's got little porcelain doll hands. That's just to say how big Desmond Llewellyn's hands are. There were some big mitts. You're right.

And it's not like Ben Wischar has petite tiny hands. They're fair sized hands. Are we up to, does anyone want to say anything about like his palm print identifiable author PPPK A gun and a radio A gun and a radio Beautiful dialogue

Not exactly Christmas Gun and a radio That is another scene The dialogue is really good Yep Do you Yeah that is good But it's a little

And now I don't know Whose problem this is This whole symbolism allegory discussion that happens here. This scene is a little written of all of them. This one is a little...

The most written is Silva's first appearance. Yes, but you could almost make the case that he's rehearsed. Yeah, I like to imagine he's scribbling that. He's hurriedly scribbling changes to that in the elevator down. I can see that.

Between dress and the final airing of that, he had some... Lorne Michaels had some notes for... Yeah. I mean, he certainly planned a lot of things. Yeah. I wouldn't put it past him to have rehearsed his dialogue. But the two-person exchange between Bond and, like, the youth is no... You still have spots.

No guarantee of efficiency. Yeah. Sometimes the trigger needs to be pulled a lot of great lines in it. Yeah, but it is very written. Yeah. Unless of a random killing machine, more of a personal statement. Yeah. Ignominious machine hauled out to scrap.

Mm-hmm. He knows it all because he's done it. I have been in that scene. Worth checking out. Where can people find that? I think it's on YouTube. Yeah. Matt Myra.

Skyfall. Who's in it with you? It's me. We did the whole thing they used to do for the MTV Movie Awards, where we like greened out Ben Wishaw, so it's me and Daniel Craig. Okay.

I'm trying to sell them on my new invention of pajama lamps. It's seamlessly done, though. It is incredible. We did a really fantastic job with it. Adam Jenkins, graphics guy of attack of the show. job, buddy. So we go to Shanghai. Anything else before we go there? No, I'm good. Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, is your favorite scene in this movie visually that fight at the top?

At Shanghai? Yeah, I mean, it's certainly up there. I think I visually, one of my favorite things in this movie is him floating into the Macau Casino. I think that's gorgeous. But yeah, that's a lot flight. Now, I would love to know if that is a thing that actually exists. I doubt it, but I'm sure it does not, but it sure does not. But it sure does. does look pretty great. Here's what I want to know that that silhouette fight was so expertly choreographed and so it's basically a dance between the two of them. Yeah. Because it's done in silhouette.

And so, yeah, and a oneer. I want to know if you were to get all over a pace and Daniel Craig together right now. Oh, if they could do it. They could do that. And how much of that was muscle memory. I have some emergency.

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for filming inside the vehicle. This is vehicle Hero One. Does it have a Hero One license plate? I wish it did.

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It's got 144,000. thousand miles on it. How? I don't know. It was a long tunnel. Some must have been owned since. I think it was owned since. But you could own this car for a mere 9100 pounds.

That's what? It's starting at a bidding? 18. No, it's 41 bids in right now. $12,000. Okay. What? $12,000 right now.

That's the going price. And is it, I assume it is over in... It is over. Great Britain somewhere? It is in Great Britain. You'd have to have it shipped out, but you can ship a car across the pond, no problem. That's not a thing that anyone has never done before. I'll tell you what, if you buy it, Matt, get it shipped to New York, I will drive it from New York to Los Angeles for you.

It does say Hero 1. It says Hero 1. Come on. Oh, my God. So what is that? About $12,000? It's $12,000 right now. And it's the one that Ray finds drove Daniel Craig around him. $12,000 for a Jaguar. And by the way, bidding ends November 4th.

So this podcast will have ended. This podcast will come out after that has ended. Are you the winner? Listener? Is it you? If you won this car, please talk to us. Tell us about it. Give Matt and Matt a ride.

And give us a ride. Well, speaking of... Should I buy it? I mean... That'd be weird, right? Jaguars are notorious for not holding up well into their mileage. Lifesans, right? And we are just,

this is the second James Bond car, I haven't been able to buy because this guy's like telling me no. I'm not telling you, no. I'm telling you, how much would it be all said and done to ship it over here? You could ship it over,

I think, for probably $2,500. You've got to do something with all that sweet, sweet talking track money. Yeah. I mean, the specter thing almost brings it down because it's like,

if I want to buy a bond thing, I want it to be a movie a life. significant, you know, I don't know. You can own the cab to the truck that gets, does the wheelie. Oh, and now see, now we're talking. I did really like the Jaguar that M. Judy Dench is chauffered around in this movie. Yeah, I want those blue lights behind the grill. Don't you recognize the car?

She recognized the car. I love that line. Speaking of M, Gareth Mallory, they talk about his work in the field as a younger man that he was fighting the IRA. I want to see a movie about that. I want to spin off movie. Who would play by... Who would play younger than fuck?

It would have been shot in the 90s. Yeah. Like Schinders List Age Ray finds. That would be something. Damn, now you got me thinking. Yeah. So Shanghai.

Yeah. I wish... A piece of me really wishes while he was swimming in that rooftop pool in the top of the skyscraper that they pan over and there's an obnoxious American

family of floor. splashing around in one end, just ruining the shot. I really wish that happened. I feel like that would have been the most costly scene to film. To clear that pool out. I feel like that was so much money. Although they did say, Barbara did say, remember all the traffic from this scene?

And she's talking about the scene on the bridge where Judy Dent is stopping. She's like, we had to stop traffic in both directions. People were not happy. Oh, my God. then we blew up at my six people were fine with that so one thing that screwed with you're still scrolling this you really want this card don't you no no no i'm looking at sky false okay uh one thing that took me out of it a little bit and it's probably just me uh when he goes to find patrice at the airport and you cut to the fact that he is already following him that he that bond just knew where

to park his car, that it wouldn't get towed, and that he could get right behind whatever cab Patrice got into. Like, I've parked at enough airports. You don't know that the Shanghai airport traffic goes. When does Patrice know he's on to him? Because obviously, the minute Bond jumps on the elevator, you see Patrice look down and kind of give a real, does he, doesn't he look. I personally didn't think he knew until, it seemed to be like he heard Bond coming in.

after the shot. Like, I don't think he really knew Bond was there until after the shot. I mean, he looks. Yeah, he looks. He's a beautiful shot of all the reflections in the various windows. Yeah. He looks in the elevator and he looks when he's about to fire. Yeah. So, I mean, when he looked when he was about to fire, I thought he heard something, but I guess the reflection, because Bond had the door at 45 degrees or whatever. Right. Yeah, that, that is one thing that I even the first time, it's second time, third time. I'm still, I can't figure out the geography. I don't think you're supposed to. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think, yeah. But that, and that whole floor must have been such a nightmare to shoot.

Even the, even the ground floor of that skyscraper has a ton of reflective surfaces everywhere. I know, that, Roger Deegan. You wonder how much they had to CG out of just lights and reflections of the camera. Right. I thought about that, too, when they're shooting the scene with the psychologist giving him the word association. Yeah. They clearly, if you look, like the mirror would remove and they would shoot through the mirror. but there's also a wall section that you can see is separate from the main wall that they

would probably remove for the opposite coverage. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good point. I didn't think about that. Did your CGI Dahr go off? It wasn't CGI. Oh, you mean, well, they would have had to have, like, CG'd it in the mirror?

Yeah. No, that type of CGI is usually pretty seamless. I think it's... The worst CGI in this movie, you think, is the rooftop motorcytable? I don't know that it's the worst job. I think the Scorpion and the face, Silver's face at times. For the record, I have to say.

You guys all did a way better job than the three of us ever could. Yeah. Special effects team on Skyfall. That goes without saying. Big thumbs up. But that does. Here's my problem. Yeah.

I think the worst CG in the movie is the breath. That's not great. At the end of Skyfall. But it just goes to the bigger point of don't put CG in a Bond movie when you can help it. Yeah. I think even a practical scorpion would have been better than that CG. And I'm not saying a real one.

That's one of my favorite children's books, the practical scorpion. I love that. Nicole Kidman movie, the practical scorpion. Practical magic. What have I got here? So the fight, looking back on it, I mean, it's well choreographed, but it is not, like I remembered it being a lot more of this. role the first time through

than looking back on it. I think I forgive a lot of it because it's done in one take and I applaud them for it. Although again, because it's so much of it is in silhouette, I wonder how much of it was Daniel Craig and that actor versus stunt dudes. I think the feeling it is. It looks like them.

But yeah, it's not as it's not one of my favorite fight sequences. I mean, that said I've just watched John Wick 2 for the second time and I'm getting as much as I love, I mean, I love John Wick and their dedication to practical stunts and all of that. But I'm getting real tired, especially in John Wick too. He has sort of three moves that he tends to, like if he pulls one more guy down on the ground, shoots some other guys and then shoots that guy in the head again, it will be too soon.

I loved Joan Wick. I got bored during the second one because it was so repetitive and felt like I was watching a video game. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, it was, it wasn't. the most stellarly choreographed fight to me. I found the, like, I found the, like, the, the fight on the train in the opening

sequence a lot more interesting and visceral to me. Yeah. But still, I mean, come on, that's like, that's Roger Deacons, excuse me, Richard, Roebling Deacons, going for his Oscar. Our Deeks going for his Oscar right there in that scene. Should have gotten it. A lot of the muzzle flogs. Has he still?

He's probably, I bet you he wins for Blade Runner. Has he still never won? No. That's crazy to me. You know what? I'm going to give him one. Okay. I'll pitch him, Matt. Why does Sam Smith have one before him? I know. Three Six Mafia has one before him. Oh, that I get.

Okay, true. I mean, eight mile. So then it's off to Macau. Oh, the only thing I have to say, another personal, like, thing that oogs me out in movies is when people lie down on broken glass, and there's a lot of that in that scene, like when he falls out the window and Bond is laying down,

like, oh, he's going to cut himself all over the plate. Like, that's one of my phobias is to step on broken glass barefoot. You're fine. I suppose that's true. He is wearing that. coat still. It's a thick coat. I think that always must as me.

I lay a glass often in that coat. Then they're off to Macau. I love the casino sequence here. It's Bond in a casino. Yeah. He doesn't play. I was going to say that how much does that bother you

that he doesn't actually play anything? Well, I suppose this Bond has played so much casino gambling. That's true. Via Cassina Royal. Yeah. He doesn't, but he does at the end give the money to Money Penny to put on red,

which she obviously loses because the state of her affairs inspectors she's just living in a kind of standard apartment. I did not imagine that he actually put it. You think she gave it back to the British government. Yeah, maybe. Classic her.

He wouldn't have told on her. But again, speaking of one take of oneers, that whole walk into, like it's not as showy of a show, it's kind of showy, but not nearly as ostentatious, but that whole walk in where they're having that whole conversation via the radio is all one take until... Which is funny because he did the most obvious one-take shot in Specter, that whole opening sequence, yeah.

But it's well-choreographed, well-written. Yeah, Komoto Dragons. Camoto Dragons. Wow. That's the best CG in the film. The dragons themselves? They look decent. Are they so deadly?

I guess so, yeah. I don't think they're deadly. They'll injure you. I remember Sharon Stone's husband. Do you remember that whole new story where, like, for his birthday, they took, they went to a zoo and they got, he's a, he loved, this is, again, I'm mangling the details, but Sharon Stone's husband, some wealthy dude, I believe. I love Komodo Dragons. They went to a zoo for his birthday and he got to be in a room with Komoto Dragon and it ended up biting him in the foot and I think he lost a toe. Oh.

Well, did you ever see the planet Earth where the Komoto dragons, like, track a yak for days and then they take it down? those things are vicious. I know their bite, like, like, it's very infectious. Like, oh, yeah.

Like, they've got, like, filthy mouths, but it's intentional. Like, they're evolved that way so that they get one bite

and the bite's going to get infected and die. Fuck you. They're always eating fucking Cheetos and filthy mouth. Fuck you. Other D. O7 in real life that we have to mention real quick is that, did you hear that Paul Manafort's password to his email was Bond?

Double O seven. A lot of dick. Which is hilarious. Oh, near the end of that Macau sequence, like after he comes up and gives her the money and is walking away, and you hear a couple little plaintive wails of that guy that's been taken away. I love that little touch, that sort of Wilhelm screamy little. Have they used a Wilhelm scream and Bond? They have not.

I bet they have. Tarzan, yell, but no. Sure. Is there more to talk about about the Severin scene because it is? I don't know. That's really good. I mean, it's another in the long line of this movie having great dialogue scenes. It's also-literal dialogue. Two people see.

Is this the first time you see someone smoking again? Because smoking went out of movies for so long, but is, does Le Schiff smoke? No. I feel like some people are smoking in Casino Royale. You smoke, Tiffany Dalton Bond smokes. Yeah. Broson and Bond smokes cigars. And not, but not even that much.

Barely. Just when he smokes the delictados. We have not have delictados here for 30 years. I can't think of anyone smoking in the first two, Craig. Well, we don't need to think about it for a long time. Look it up on this. What we do need to think about is whether or not this money penny was around during Goldfinger. When you say we.

And I also didn't understand the line, put it all on Red Circle of Life. Like that was his line, his button on that. I think he's talking about the circle of life. Those dragons getting eaten. And all the chips having dragons? Or maybe just that easy come to him, easy go. I guess. I don't know.

I don't know the chips. Not a great button. Yeah. You know, what's interesting is the first chapter of Casino Royal. I suppose I say that right when I'm talking about the book. No, Royal. Oh, God. Oh, don't tease me like that.

The first chapter, Ian Fleming explains his James Bond's roulette strategy. Yes. And I feel like, I don't think he ever said put it on red. What was his strategy? He would split the board. He would play the first 12 numbers and the last 12 numbers. He would always be betting same amount on both because they pay 3 to 1. So he had most of the board covered.

And then he would move on to odd even. and then black red, I guess he would do. Anyway. That would have been a long sentence for him to say as he's walking out. I think if he handed to her and said split the 12s. And I'm willing to bet Ian Fleming didn't care to bet on black a whole lot. I didn't care for the black hair. Always bet on lesbian.

Until you can change them, of course. Is there a black lesbian thing for roulette because I don't want to bet on it? If I lived on this coast But if we put it on red, that'll be like a communist. Do you have straight white mail? All my money on straight white mail. If I lived on this coast, we could never be friends because I would just constantly be coming over to your house

and making you talk in Sir Ian Fleming mode about everything at all times. I call you in the middle of the night. Do you ever send me to sleep? Well, I sent you the ways I did. Oh, the ways is so great. I haven't even heard it myself. I'll have to put that out.

Do you ever find yourself doing that voice or other voices in the car by yourself? Almost just internally all the time. That's all I do, especially when I read something I read in a British accent to practice. But it's not like I'm practicing to get better. It's just like just something I like to do. Keeping the muscle. That's interesting. Yeah.

Now here's a question. Is this the first time on the podcast that you've broken that wall and talked about the fact that you are doing a Sir Ian Fleming voice. I don't know what you're talking about it. I just got back in the room. Oh, okay. And I was just talking about doing British accents. Okay, my mistake.

No, Ian Fleming was right here. What? That was sort of a shimmering. I didn't have a good view. It's so weird that you constantly are getting up. He's in my house? Well, he was in your house. How did he get in here?

I believe through the door. Huh. The leather door. You have a trap door, oh, D. Did you hear that? that? Did you hear him? No, I just briefly put my air buds in

because I wanted to... It's like Christmas morning for me? You really love those AirPods? I do. I do. Well... You finally get lost easily? I put the movie Airbud on for just a second. I have to get a fix every 20 or 30 minutes. I mean, I know how much you need your Golden Retriever fix.

All right. Severine, what do we think of her in the Pantheon of Bond gals? I think she's up there for that sort of secondary femme fatale. She's up there for me. I mean, really the Bond Girl in this movie is M. M.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is a little crazy. Or the Bond Girl is Albert Finney. I mean, look. We've said it before and I'll say it again. I am Dame Judy drenched. He's the best.

For this M. You can't beat the cast in this movie. My God. Is anyone miscast? I think the answer to that is no. Yeah. me try to think is anyone miscast Javier Bardem if anyone

not that he's miscast He fucking He just has so much joy playing that part He's having a good old time It's true I love it I can't think of a

It's not quite a Benicio del Toro Level of good time But Maybe Maybe No it's not even Albert Finney's fault He's great

The role has some Yeah that part By the way rewatching this movie This time with the idea in my head of what would that have been like if they went to a retirement home

for old bonds? This movie seems to be written to that. It seems to be written 100% no, even to the we're going back in time, even that line. Like it feels like this was,

it feels like the draft with Sean Connery existed for 90% of the script's life. You may be right. Yeah, like that was their initial thought and as they wrote it, they finally kind of erased it out a little.

Yeah, but it feels to me like that is a thing. And I, you know, I always think about it. I always think, what if, what if they had done it?

And part of me just wishes they did it. Well, I'd like to see it. I don't want it to be the official version. Part of me wishes they, I really wish they did it. I would love to see Brosnan, Dalton,

Laysenby, and Sean Connery. Sitting around playing Wist. Sitting around. And more. gambling and like women are around Roger Moore is there, sure But they should have brought all the surviving bond

girls in to hang out there too Oh Who would have been a dream? Matt Adams Would have been a dream man Wow A plaster cast of Q's hands As bookends

Not bookends As what? I don't know like Shoring up the buttressings for the wall Shoring up the foundation of the building Yeah Beanbag check chairs.

There's like holding the granite quarry in place on the side of the... It's just like, how much would you love it if there was like a giant painting of Bernard Lee in there? Oh, man. I would just love to have a giant painting. It's another world. Just to see it. Yeah. In a better timeline, Matt.

So they go to the island. The island of forgotten people. Here's my question. Why is she captured? Like, she ends up hands tied up with him as they're walking out of the island. Because they know she's betrayed him. Did they, is that the implication they overheard her conversation of wanting him to kill him? They know that Bond is who Bond is, so the fact that she brought him there.

See, I thought that was part of, like, she knew who Bond was to, that was part of the plan, was get Bond here onto this island. I guess it is part of the plan. And, like, I took it as, it was her job to seduce him and get him to the island so he could have his big two-minute speech. It's hard to say what is part of the plan and what isn't part of the plan. what isn't part of the plan because... Right. Why is that part of the plan? Because they...

That shouldn't be part of the plan because they send two men to kill. Yes. Which I guess if you're... If you're... Silva, you're like... Yeah, go ahead. Try to kill him.

He's a double O. You're not going to kill him. So maybe there's that element to it. No, but why would they bother with that? They'd let him directly come to the island. How does Silva's plan work if Bond doesn't capture him? That's the question.

It doesn't. It doesn't. We can't even bother scrutinizing this because it doesn't hold water. Ultimately. I mean, unless he, that's his fail-safe plan is if I get captured this, this, this. Maybe. He had planned a lot of things. A through Z.

A through double Z. So I'll allow that. Plan Z was just. I'll allow the capturing. Ah, just killer. It's great, man. That, that, this whole, that island. The island scene, the whole island scene.

Everything takes place on the island. We've talked a lot about his monologue, but I've never seen it this way before that this is kind of that classic bond trope of the villain asks him to join him first. And it was really sort of reminded me of a modern take on the doctor no thing of like, I appreciate what you are. We should work together. And he's doing the same thing here. And it's kind of lost in his rat speech a little bit that that's really what he's after.

First is to be the two rats that go out and eat the world together. in his big home brew setup. Sometimes the old way is the best way. Oh, sorry, go. No, no, I just going to say the, I think we have, I mean, do you have anything to say or add or anything about his speech? Not really. I liked it okay.

Like, it's obviously very, very written, but I feel like it works in the context because it's the Bond villain speech. Yeah. And he's always going to. weird with it. I love the timing of it. I love that he's walking slowly, methodically towards bones. Yeah.

To make it. Javier Bardem. My last note that I had before I got too bored to keep notes anymore. Not bored, but just tired of taking notes, was Javier Bardem has a weird face. Like beyond the fact that they weirded him up for, because he has the insert. He has a, he's got an odd. You know what it is? It is when there's a Rick.

Baker, follow me on this. When there's a movie from like the 80s with a Rick Baker makeup take where somebody's head is going to reshape, I'm talking specifically like, say, American Werewolf in London, or there's a shot in the original Conan, the barbarian movie where James Earl Jones is about to turn into a snake. And it cuts away from real James Earl Jones and it cuts back. And it's mannequin head James Earl Jones. And it looks 90% okay. and just you'll see his snouts sort of move forward a little bit, but that's all they're going to show because that's beyond that point,

the mask won't work. So, he looks like that shot of James Roll Jones. You're saying that Harvey Arbardime exists in the uncanny valley. Yeah. But it's, it's augmented in this film because he's wearing dentures.

But still, like, just looking at him in other movies, his face is weird and I can't describe it. I also think he has a lot of makeup on. Like, I think they, they tarted him up. a little. They toned him down.

And I think that, like, no one can ever look past the black as night five o'clock shadow. Right. And the blonde hair and eyebrows. Yeah, I know. It is at odds. I have a question for you guys. So this thing about Bond saying, who says it's my first time, implying that he's had some sort of homoerotic experience before.

Knowing what you know about all the previous Bond movies, if you had to pick who Bond would most likely have had a homo erotic moment with in the Bond films, who would it be? John Baker. No. That was the most childlike, no, I've ever seen me. No, no. No, come on.

Come on. You can't take John Baker. You guys, serious question. Stop joking. Don't. I got to say, it is a tiger. Tiger Kanaka. Oh, I mean, because of Japan.

And it is, you know, men come first. Men come first, women come later. I think it's like, it's just a sex party in this tub. Well, I had a similar thought that he and live and let die, Felix Lider, David Hedison, are celebrating with some girls and they're just, everything gets confused and mixed up. And it's like, I don't know where this is going or what's happening here. It's just a big pretzel at some point. You know.

All right. Those are the two moments. I'll buy that. And Joe Don Baker. You guys. Which Joe Don Baker? Evil Joe Don Baker? ally Joe Don Baker.

Oh, ally Joe Don Baker in the streets, evil Joan on Baker in the sheets. You're me marking it down. I am taking a talent. You know, vote in and say who you think Bond will most have a gay experience with and we'll publish it in this year's

print yearbook for James Bonding. Also, if you'd like to cast your vote for this James Bond did gold thing, do that somewhere yeah uh so sylva gets captured don't listen to anyone has anything else for no i do enjoy his moment i do like the mckellan 62 the nod to the year james bond started yeah i don't know that mckellan ever put years on their labels um that big but i loved it um 50-year-old Scotch.

And I got to tell you, the whole thing, going back to his marksmanship failing, Severine tied up like there. Your lovers are here. That is such a weird line.

Your lovers are here. But I'm thinking about that. I never thought about it before. It's true. They've both been her lovers. I also was mentally trying to reconstruct that huge statue

that they're all standing in front of. I think I want to know the story behind that statue. It's probably a statue of... Some very large guy. Yes, a Taitra, Tiger Tanaka. That is like people. It's a statue they made one-to-one scale of Q, only having his hand plaster cast.

They retconned it, basically. They're like, well, you have these hands. Let's build the rest of it. A lot of people don't know that those 70s white chairs that you'd sit and were in a hand. Those are just one-for-one plaster cast. One-for-one plaster castes of Desmond Lowellant's hit. We have a fun time on this show.

We sure do. It really is terrific. But I do love that scene. I love the marksmanship scene. And I love James Bond fucking getting out of it and killing everybody. It's good because it has like an air of man with a golden gun like this dual sort of thing happening. Dueling pistols. And that I thought, as brief as it was, I thought it was the best choreographed little fight sequence.

Yeah. And back to the editing, like, so well edited that you, like, I understood the geography of it first time through. Also, I do think that Silva was genuinely surprised that Bond was able to pull that off. But he still needed it to happen. I think his plan is either capture Bond or either be captured by Bond or turn Bond. Or do whatever the hell I was going to do with Plan C-12. Yeah, I don't know. So he's captured.

I like his moment with the tooth. I mean, pulling his teeth out and the cyanide. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He delivers that pretty well. Mm-hmm. It's compelling.

I love the courtroom shootout. Love that. Courtroom shootout's great. I love the way they work together that he kicks a gun to money pay. Yes. Yes. M grabs a gun. Bonn winks at him.

They all are, that just, that's a great scene. And I do like how angry Silva is and he starts shooting into the fog. Yeah. Yeah. That is the one point where I do feel like Bonn upended his system.

He went there to kill him and he was really pissed that Bond actually got ahead of him one step. Yeah. Even if the whole escape and train sequence leading up to it's kind of... Yeah. You could cut that. You could cut that whole thing. Done. Okay.

Cut the motorcycles? Cut that. I got a tighter movie anyway. The... I mean... I mean, this is Class A running by Daniel Craig in the streets. He is a visceral runner back Dan Craig. I just wish I was in 1% of the shape he's in.

Yeah, me too. Well, if it was your job to be. Me? I'm nowhere near the shape he's in. You're closer than I am. I may be a leaner fellow, but I have the endurance of a couch pillow. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, God. I went back, the other thing I went back to watch was that opening sequence to Cassano Rail. Not the bathroom fight, but the parkour sequence.

It's fucking fantastic. That is the best action sequence in a bomb movie, isn't it? I think for my money, maybe, yeah. I mean... It's so... I use this word too many times. I like a...

From Russia would love a train fight, but go ahead. That's a good one, too. I mean, I've overused the word, but it's so visceral in a way that... I mean, just erases... It's the... It erases Brosnan from the map in two minutes, and the rest of it is just marveling.

Could you say that again? Just on mic. Well, it's just Brosnan, as much as I love him and as handsome as he is. I don't like this. He never carries a lot of weight on screen for me. I don't buy him as a physical imposing presence. You need a practical scorpion. Yeah, you need the practical scorpion.

I don't like that you brought Paul on here just to sandbag me. You can write me the check later. We did it. Can I offer you a Cananga balloon? It's unbelievable. It's incredible. But we were talking about Skyfall, not... He takes M away.

They go pick up the Aston Martin in this shed. Did you notice that they leave and he just leaves the shed open? By the way, if you look beyond the car, all his worldly possessions are in that shed. It's a big shed. And he just leaves it open like, fuck it. I don't care anymore. That stuff's already doing. dead to me anyway. I also think he has a shed Concade.

That's going to close up after him. I genuinely want to just say thank you to Sam Mendez. And I just want to really just thank him for this moment. This moment in perhaps all of the James Bond franchises is the moment I wanted most. The Asthmarm was the theme show. And the theme show. And the music cue.

Yeah. That was such a great touch. To see the light go on. To see that Aston Martin DB5. I did not expect it the first time I saw it. Which is just as much James Bond. To me, that car is so James Bond. Although it was in the trailer, them in Scotland with the car.

Yeah, but you don't know where it's coming. And you're not expecting it at that moment at all. You're not even putting in the pieces together. But to have that moment with that car and to Daniel Craig to step out next to it, it really, for me, is just like that, you might as well be giving me Sean Connery in his prime and playing that music. That car is so iconic.

Yeah. And quite frankly, the fact that it still has machine guns and an ejector seat. Delighted me. See, that threw me a little when I first saw it. I remember feeling in the theater like, this felt jarring to me. I, yeah.

Well, you know, you got to like, because it's the incongruent. with Daniel Craig's world. It's almost like a guy who wouldn't like Pierce Brosnan. I know. Or somebody gets really overly obsessed with the timeline of multiple actors playing the role. Thank you for being a mediating presence. Sure.

I love the sass. Wait, we both have things. I love the sassy interplay between, like, just the, are you going to talk the whole way there? Yeah. Okay. They, they, oh, Matthew, James Gourley. Yes. I would like you to please explain to me.

What you think happens with this S and Martin. You're not supposed to know. And how it became... He took it into Q and said, this is my car, can you do some work on it? And I know this is the first time he's meeting this Q, but this is the new quartermaster, she says. The old quartermaster probably retiring.

He had a great relationship with him. He's like, let me do that one pet project before I go off to the hand specialist. A great relationship with him after his first mission as a double O? No, I have a. agreed that there are missions in between this. Don't try to pin me down on technicalities that don't exist. So what point does he take this car from? What do you mean?

I don't know what you mean. Man, I just don't, I just, our brains work a little differently here. I don't think we're at odds. That's the other thing. I do think we're at odds. Terrible odds. I don't know if our friendship can survive. So what is your explanation that, how did these machine guns get in there?

This was issued to him. as part of a mission. And it's pure coincidence that he already has a DB5? What do you mean? I honestly, I don't think his, I don't think he ever took that DB5 from whatever island. For the people listening at home. Why would they give him a DB5 in this day and age?

You can't imagine the level of tension in this room right now. Modern, Austin Martin. They gave him that DB5 in 1964. You also can't see the knives they are brandishing at each other as they have this conversation. We've actually tied our wrists together. like the gypsy women from Russia with love.

And Sean Connery's watching us. I don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong. You know, it's what I, it's the scene, for me it's like an extension of the scene and die another day. Where he's in Kew Branch, Kew Branch's old storage facility. And he sniffs Irma Kleb's shoe. No, I understand that, but that's more of a meta nod. But this, you have literal evidence of the year he was born from Spector. We see that, you know?

Yeah. We know that he wasn't around. I'm sorry. Okay. But I, you're the one driving that really wanted to figure this out. Here's the way I will allow this to exist. It can't help. In my head.

Yeah. The year's 2007, right? Right now it is? No, no, in this world where I'm now painting. He's set in the scene. The year after. It's a bit of me. Real plus one.

Yeah. It's a, so it really is a quantum plus one, right? Because if Casinoa ends so it's a

quantum plus one. James Bond's Aston Martin famously rolled 9,000 times. And he's sitting, maybe he's sitting at a lunch table

with Tanner. And Tanner's like, you know, cue branches, clearing out a lot of stuff. We've got to make room for these new servers. And Bond goes, really?

Are they getting rid of any of the cars? And Tanner's like, I think so. And he goes down and he takes a look and he sees the DB5. And then he says to M or Q, that's mine. Dibs. Now let me offer you an alternative. But the problem is you could just as easily be having lunch with Tanner. And Tanner's like, oh, by the way,

we're doing a regular MI5 barge mission to the Bahamas to pick up some stuff. Oh, really? I've got a DB5 over there. Can we throw it on? You bet, buddy. Where are our British accents?

Is it right-hand drive or is it left-hand drive? Well, here's the thing. I need it converted. That's a pretty big task. But it's also no small task to put machine guns in and ejector seats so we can switch your drive shafts. So I'll buy that it is,

it is Q branch surplus that he has. Like when you buy an old Jeep from the army. Or a P-Code. Okay, so I'll buy that too. It's left over from an old MI6 mission, not a bond mission necessarily, but those were kind of standard issue. Yeah.

We're agreed. The summit is over. We've done it. If you disagree, glad I got help, guys. You are me and your heart. Okay, so they're heading up to Scotland. Heading up to Scotland.

Beautiful cinematography through the foggy hills. I mean, the shot of him standing outside the car while M gets out of the car. Great. Trailer moment. Just great. God.

Glenn Co. Scott. All right. Can we talk Albert Finney yet? Here we are. Yeah. We're talking Kincaid. Like, oh, great lady, she still has her secret wings. Ever.

Apparently, Albert Finney has a deviated septum. He does. Rama. I love how big a game he talks and then the first sign of trouble he's dropping shotgun the minute they say people are going to come here to kill us we're going to kill him first well I mean about to get started what I mean he's a real real hard ass I'm not really sure the gun room was fully stocked yeah yeah would have been really kind of cool yeah

nice touch I'm not sure what he's doing there he's the groundskeeper I mean he's the groundskeeper I mean, not, I mean just the character, other than being a third body to shoot some people and to reveal their location like an idiot because they're only 100 yards away from... He's Sean Connery. I think you're right, and I think... He's 100% Sean Connery. When they didn't do that, they went, we still need someone with Gravitus, an actor with Gravitos. We'll get Albert Finney.

But you're right, because he's... I mean, he's part just fizzles out. He's not doing anything and he's just let... Luckily, he's letting his Albert Finneyness carry the part. And he's charming and he's funny and he's got, you know, Albert Finney presence. But like he's not, like, there's not, there's probably a scene on the cutting room floor, I think, where he has, he's talking with M and he's got some insight into young, young James Bond or something.

There should be, yeah. Well, he does. He talks about when his parents died and he hidden that priest's hole for two days. And when he came out, he wasn't a boy anymore. I wanted the scene of the morning after all this where he's going, well, Fuck, where do I live now? I guess I sleep in the tunnel. Had Paul Haggis written this, he would have fucked her wound.

Is that crash? That's the other crash. Cronenberg crash. Dronenberg Bond film now we're talking. Oh, my God. Yeah, especially in the end when Silva just shoots the wall and he stands there with his hands up. And you don't realize how long he's actually standing there with his hands up. Because even when M dies and they cut him.

to the wide shot. He's still in that place. Exactly. He has not moved. He's pissed his pants probably. No, I think because he's a gamekeeper, I think he's a hunter. I think he can stay still. He's just staying still.

That's something he knows how to do. If he can't see me move, we can't see me. I don't know what accent that is. So, you know, we've talked about the home aloneness of it all. The impromptu, the impromptu fortress fortifying of Skyfall. I'm okay with it. I love this sequence. Do you notice he has these two hunting dogs?

And then when Silva's team arrive, you hear distant barking, but you never see what becomes of those dogs, or you'd think that they would have helped a little more. I just think they wanted to avoid having to show those dogs get killed. Yeah. Yeah. One thing I love about the Craig Bond is that they show him, like, he'll kill somebody,

and then he'll take their gun, because his gun's out of rounds. And that's a touch I always, I remember just, you know, when you'd grow up and watch an action movie, you'd always think, why isn't he doing that? And then finally, I think, Liam Neeson started doing it in Taken,

and then John Wick, he does that kind of thing. Rambo First Blood Part 2. I guess he does some of that. There's a long history of gun taking. But Craig does it with extra flare where he kicks it up like a skiske board. I mean, come on.

That was a great touch. Yeah. You want to kick up a gun. That's right. You get yourself a James Bond. Mm-hmm. What do you think of the attack helicopter coming in, playing that song? It was such a strangely not a super well-known song.

Like, it's a weird choice, and I wonder if there's a reason behind that. It almost feels like a stainless steel delicatessen choice or something. I mean, it's a known song. I knew the song, but it's not. like, what is the statement he's making with this somewhat obscure blues song? Because they haven't established him as so weird and super twisted and odd. Like, he's a little weird, but not that sort of slightly cartoony. He's playing Edith Piaff on the island?

What is he playing? I can't remember. Oh, I can't remember what it was playing there. A jaunty tune. Yeah, a little French lilting tune. Yeah. Yeah. Who's this,

Booker? T and the M.G. Is it? No. No, I'm just finishing your sentences. Who am I thinking of? This is boom, boom, boom, boom, right? Boom, boom.

Because Big Head Todd and the Monsters did a cover of it. Why didn't they use that version? Boom, written and performed by Charles Trenet. Oh, boom, boom, John Lee Hooker. John Lee Hooker, that's what I'm trying to think of, yeah. Booker, I said. I'm at Hooker, yeah. A boom, boom, boom.

Oh, Boom, Boom, is the French song. that they're listening to on the island, I think. Boom? It's called Boom, B-O-U-M-Xclamation. No shit. Okay, I guess it does make sense because he's kind of coming to blow everything up. No, that's the French one

is the one he's listening to on the island during the dueling pistol competition, and then Boom, Boom, John Lee Hooker. Isn't that what he's listening to? Isn't that what he's playing? I'm pretty sure. Tag helicopter. Okay.

Well, it's a hell of a sequence and Deakin's cinematography, man. That fire on that, like, forget it. The Moors. Yeah, that's what saves a lot of the ending of the... Like, I really feel the length of this movie in that last sequence, but... Yeah. The cinematography and all that stuff really is what saves it for me.

Yeah. Because you don't... I don't know if you know this about Dana Craig, but... He's great underwater. Yeah. He's great in the water. I would also like that guy he kills underwater and I was there, too, just to hear about the filming of that sequence, too.

Oh, yeah. these guys all live in England. And that great, uh, the great shot of him firing the flare up to the, yeah, to the ice. I love that.

I love when he turns around, swims down and does that. I also love Sylva's reaction. When Bond goes in there, he just laughs and then, yeah, his reactions are great. Speaking of that,

when he, not to jump too far ahead, but when he does get stabbed and, and he turns around, he's so angry, then he's finally like resign and is like, just so pissed. Like,

I just want to die because I'm so done. This is the first time where I, I watched it where it's like his reaction is actually that to Bond's last rat standing one liner where he's like oh great I got to die on a shitty one liner yeah he just didn't have the energy to say I made that story up I get the last laugh M's last line is I did get one thing right yeah that's really a good moment I think I it's beautifully done yep and then the church sequence, great. I love the Silva comes in and says, of course, it had to be here. It ought to be here.

Kind of bozo the clown in there a little bit. You notice he also points the gun or her head, but if you actually look at that there's two different angles on that shot, basically both of them are missing his head. So it's like, it's angled at her head in such a way that it doesn't look like it's fully going to shoot him. Not that he intends it to be that way, but it is funny to think that she would do it, and he'd still be alive, and he'd be like, of course it had done this way. But it's almost like she could move her head out of the way very quickly. The look of fear on her face is so good, though.

She's a fucking dame. Yeah, that's right. She's a lady of acting. Dame. Well, I got to say. All right, so. Okay, so that whole thing. Judy, we love you.

Yeah. It's a great way to go out. The tiny little epilogue we get. I would give that an A plus plus. Yeah, it's great. The rooftop, or are we talking the... We're talking rooftop down to the office. Business, yeah.

That whole sequence. I love that he, you know, he's handed the fucking bulldog that he hated. Yeah. Telling you to take a Jeff's job, no, it's just the opposite. It's got cracks in it. Yeah. It's really spectacularly done. Eve Moneypenny, M's finally in his office.

We got the quilted leather door. We're back. There's no way we're getting any rogue missions. Everything from here is going to be episodic. One-time missions. Don't worry about it. It's not going to happen. We do not need to tie these movies together further.

Relax. It's not going to happen. Were we ever that young guys? I know. Now are we going to rate this movie on it? Also, not Judy Dench's last appearance as him. She pops up on a DVD, Inspector. All right.

We're going to rate this movie on a scale of zero to 007. Yep. Who goes first here? well we should always offer it to the guest it's only pressure's on does the guest not want to feel like a dumb dumb when we that's right when you guys give it I haven't thought about this I thought about I thought about it earlier today when I was thinking about it I was going to give it a a double 04 but through the course of our many hours of discussing this movie and

realizing again as I said at the outset how much more I love the movie the whole more so than the sum of its parts I think I think I'm going to go 005. That's nice. This movie, for me, it's a 006.

I'm right there with you, buddy. Yeah. 006. This is a 006. There's no, you know, if the plot made more sense, you're looking at a

007 gold rating. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Now, with that boost, is Casino Real, your mutual only,

2007. Casino Royale, we haven't done again. Okay. So we have not rated it. But I feel like you've discussed the topic. It would be a very hard to beat Cassano Royal. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I do rate all of these things, knowing that there are a couple of sevens in my head. So, oh, you're not going to go one seven. You got a couple sevens in this?

Yeah, so I have to like skew everything based on those, that bell curve. Interesting. So, Matt, that being said, thanks for. taking us through Skyfall yet again. Paul, you were a wonderful guest. Thank you, guys. It's been a genuine pleasure being here for a longer than the movie.

Yeah, well, it's that time of... Two hours and three minutes. Oh, thank you. Oh, well, I'm going to get some time. It's that time of the podcast. I chose Skyfall. It is now up to my compatriot. Monsieur Goli.

Okay, I have to admit. Tell us what we're watching next. I haven't... I haven't... I haven't... distilled it down to one yet for some reason. So let me just in my head go over. I don't know if I want to say what my finalists are for this week

or if I just want to think about it. Oh, that's interesting. I think you should think about it. Give it a little bit of time. Okay, you guys talk to each other first. Okay, I could throw a plug out. Please. I could throw my plugs in, which is the reason I'm here.

It's actually great because people are going to be listening to this part. That's right. Yes, they're on tenter hooks. Great. So I'm half of comedy music duo, Paul and Storm, at Paul and Storm on all the various social media. died to us because he didn't do anything about the song. Don't be.

Maybe he'll be resurrected on a cruise. Don't be like that, Matt. We both help run the annual Joco Cruz, which Matt Goreley has been a guest on. The next one is happening February 18th at 25th, 2018. J-O-C-O-Cruise.com. It is a great time. It's a music, comedy, creative. Name J-C-O-C-C-O-C-E-O-E-E-E-E-E-N-E-E-N-E-N-E-N-E-N-Singer,

songwriter. It's, you know, so there's music. and comedy concerts, there's authors and creative people, and it's all the good parts of a con without any of the bad parts, and it all happens on a cruise ship that leaves out of San Diego going to several stops in

Baja, California. It is a great time, and we recommend it for everybody. Also... What ages are we talking? 18 and up? Eight to 80, baby. 8 to 80. Permiscuous sex, leave it at the... Leave it at port. Okay. And then we've also we wrote and did a lot of songs for the first season of the reboot of Mystery Science Theater 3,000, which you can find on Netflix.

You know, I love everything about that show except the host. Well, there's always. Just kidding. There's always a week. He came up with this theme song. Sort of. No, he inspired the theme song. He came up with the inspiration for the theme song.

So you can hear a bunch of songs and funny lines we wrote. for that on the Netflix. We hope there will be a second season. They want a second season. We hope the kids want... They want a second season, everybody. We, uh, you know, here's... Knock wood.

Knockwood. Knockwood. We all want a second season. Um... I look like I'm listening, but I'm thinking about... We'd like 900 more episodes, please. Yes. So we, as so say we all.

Yes. Uh, what do you have to plug, Matt, Mike? Uh, you know, too much. I'm out there too much. worry about it. I'm ready. Literally. All right.

All right. Matt, you've had time in the sanctum. What is the next movie that I'm going to be watching two Tuesdays from now? Well, I felt the need to either go back to a Moore or a Connery because we've got a lot of those to cover. Yeah, we've covered all the Dalton's, two of the Brosnan's. Now one of the Craigs. Lazy's Bee, we should save that for Christmas anyway, because that's a Christmas movie. I'm just trying to die hard retcon it.

That's fair. So my choices are a hard-nosed, realistic, gritty Connery, or more of the lighthearted one. Or Roger Moore, I'm still between two Conner. I want to do, but I want to save some good ones for the run. We're going to do You Only Live Twice. Oh, we're going to see Tiger. Yeah. I am very excited.

one of my favorite theme songs. It's a good theme song. It's an underrated theme song. Yeah, quite frankly, one of my favorite performances by a bond a bond ally. Tiger. Tiger.

Yeah, I also like Charles Gray in this brief role. He said he's an ally for a short bit. It's the most British in any Bond movie. Yeah. I'd say it's an outstanding performance one of the best performances by any voiceover actor redoubbing the lines for any bond.

That's true. This one I'm excited about because this is not been one of my favorite Connerys, but I've been looking forward to watching this movie for a long time, and I've been holding off knowing we were going to do this. So I have an expectation I may like it more than I remember. I'm going to tell you, I'm excited with this choice. I look forward to living once again. Good, there it is then.

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