James Bonding - The Music of James Bond with Andrew Secunda

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

Matt and Matt return! We decided it's been a while so why not sit down with our friend Andrew and rank every single James Bond theme 24 thru 1. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informat...ion.

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Starting point is 00:00:11 Oh my God. Man. A year older. A year wiser? No. I was looking at the iTunes feed. November of 2015 was our last episode. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We've... Is it fair to say that we've been shunned into recluse status due to our opinion of Specter? It could be. That's not a bad place to start because we, when last we left you, we were a high atop Specter Mountain. We had scaled it and the view was to kill for. That's right. And unfortunately, it hasn't fared as well in the past year from me.
Starting point is 00:01:00 How do you like this bedding music, everyone? Oh, here we are. We're also here with a real special person today. The most special person. Is that me? Are you guys going to talk about me? That's right. Could you leave the room?
Starting point is 00:01:11 please. Oh, sure. This is correct. Welcome, welcome to our podcast, Mr. Andrew Secunda. Thank you guys so much. It's so good to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Andy, we all got together on the sidekick program on online, which is a talk show sort of thing that I don't host. Matt was our host. Andrew was our guest. But it's your show.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It's my show. If you go to project alpha.com, you can watch that if you're a big fan of James bonding, and you're like, man, I want to Matt and Matt in suits talking about James Bond for a bit, you can check it out. Because you can't get it on podcast for the last year.
Starting point is 00:01:49 That's right. That's right. And Andrew was again, we're like, this chemistry is too much to keep on video. That's right. Let's put it in audio form. No, seriously, put these three guys on audio all. We don't want to look at them. We all wore suits and we all looked fantastic.
Starting point is 00:02:05 He looked fantastic. I mean, comparative. Now we look terrible, but you don't have to see it. I haven't shaved in six days. I'm just wearing a robe of human skin. Yeah, but it's nice. It's a nice leather. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Tailored. It's flattering. Andrew, we like to ask all of our guests about James Bond when they come on. If it's their first time, we like to say, hey, when did Jimbo first bust into your life? Spy Who Loved Me? Is that when you saw her theaters? Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And it's funny, and I've thought about this. I guess the very first mind-blowing that experience I had, and I hope I'm not wrong on this, is he goes off the mountain. Oh, yeah. And the parachute pops out. It's the Union Jack. I must have blown your mind. I was a child.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And yeah. And I was just like, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. And if the ladies are listening, he was negative three years old. That's right. That's right. My father described that moment to me. He buried it in that time. And that blew for your mind.
Starting point is 00:03:18 14 years later. Well, why wouldn't that blow your mind? It's a man going off of a cliff and then opening it up to the Union Jack. I mean, that was, as I believe they say in the commentary, not the commentary, but the documentary that comes on the Blu-ray, standing ovation at the premiere screening of that. So wonderful. I think now is a good time to do. actually just phase this out. We're going to get back to the music shortly.
Starting point is 00:03:43 From Russia. Oh, you don't even get it. That's a little teaser. Speaking of music, we're here today, we're going to rank the James Bond songs from 24th to 4th. Yep. And Andrew's going to come along on the ride with us. He was like, hey, guys, I'll do the podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Thanks for asking. Really, it was more like, hey, I'm here while you're both talking to each other through me. Right. I inserted myself in between a text conversation. No, it was a great. It was a little bit of a text argument. Well, we had, Matt and I, when we did the sidekick program, I was like, we should just get one under the belt.
Starting point is 00:04:23 And then on my calendar, I put in James Bonding on this date. And then I hadn't talked to you until yesterday. I was like, hey, that's still in the calendar. Same here. We did it. Andrew, you really facilitated this. And the listeners have you to thank. Thanks, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:37 in the Middle East Peace Accords. I've always thought of myself that way. That's how I think of you most days. A bumbling peanut farmer. Well, you know what, folks? You're welcome. So, Andy, after you see The Spy Who Love Me, does that set the spark of like,
Starting point is 00:04:55 I need to find out more about this handsome British man, or what? Well, I did dig in a little bit, but I think it wasn't really until a friend at a later date. had had it was also obsessive had uh let me all of the the VHS tapes what uh what theater did you see that in and he grew up in Manhattan so I like to always ask him these kinds of questions it was the upper east side there's one in the 70s and the name escapes me why would you go all the way up there uh I was with my parents I feel like they should have just kept my parents I was with I was with a friend J.G. Roblotti hey jj. shout out
Starting point is 00:05:37 let's bring him out Jay G Robillade is dressed as a Christmas tree This is a very confused concept for a podcast This is your life in James Bondi And his mom Janet Robillotti She would always lean over and tell us what was going on Oh really? Yeah, she would explain the plot
Starting point is 00:05:57 What was going on I think we were young enough That we were confused A lot of those plots aren't entirely clear No but you don't really need to follow the plot I still couldn't tell you what quantum of solace is about. Sure. I could throw down.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Sure. That's another podcast. It's about water. It's about water. Explain the quantum and solace. That would be a very off to listen to podcast. Do we have a question, Matt Goreley, James Bonding partner in crime, do we have any sort of James Bonding production news or anything like that we should discuss? That's what I was wondering.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Well, you know, since last we, left you. It's still in question as to whether Daniel Craig is coming back. I think literally nothing has changed. He's been offered what? $113. $1.25. A million to do two more pictures, which he is not signed on for yet. But he's also not said no.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Right. And they're recording Tom Hiddleston apparently. But that seems to have fizzled a little bit. That fizzled very much. I think that was sort of a come hither. Nothing personal, Tommy. No, I could I know. I know it's that. It's probably breaking the formula. How do you guys stand on the Idriselva idea? Because I am such
Starting point is 00:07:09 an Idriselba booster. I am too. I'm 100% on him being Bond. In fact, it's a good time now to go check out the art of Ibrahim Mustafa, who was nice enough to send us these amazing prints he's doing for each of the films, but he also sent a shirt. If you want to see them, go to project alpha.com. We show them on the show. This shirt he sent was a picture of Idriselba, and it says diversify your bonds, but with the three-Os or the two-Os, he's done a double O-7. than like a casino royal title. It's a great shirt. And he's the Idrasal be holding a, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:38 Walter P.P.P.K. with a silence order myself that. Yeah. That's good. Oh, man. I would be, I think he'd be my top choice right now. I can't think of anyone
Starting point is 00:07:46 that would be better that's been throwing out there. I mean, I think it's like him or Mick Jagger, you know? Oh, well, yeah. All right. Never mind. I'm in. It's like that's sort of where I land on that. Think about him like a long, lean,
Starting point is 00:07:59 some elderly. What was a? Free Jack? Free Jack. I'm going to go Noel Gallagher from Oasis. It's terrible. Oh, I like that, too. I don't have to be a pet.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I don't like them to do a song, though. I would take that. Oh, sure. I would, uh, inherently. It's interesting the people that have not done James Bond songs. Yeah, and interesting, those who have. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:22 You get a sort of real glimpse of what a flash in the pan was on some of these songs. Like what was really timely at the time. It's good we're talking about this. It's an natural segue. I mean, I guess we'll get to it, but the, the aha thing was the, yeah, of course, of course. But I, so I would love an Idrisel. I think that would be a fantastic move. I would 100% before I even remotely had a twinge of caring about the color of James Bond's skin,
Starting point is 00:08:47 I would more care about if they, like, tried to put an American in there. That would like, that would like blow my brain open. Even an American that could do an English accent. Yeah, wouldn't care for it. That still wouldn't feel. I wouldn't care for it. We were close many times. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:01 James Browling, Bert Reynolds. We dodged a lot of bullets We dodged a lot of bullets Yeah Not as many as James has dodged Have you discussed on the podcast How Hugh Grant would have done Because he was in the running at some point
Starting point is 00:09:13 I think he was in the casual running for it Bumbling Yeah He would have definitely He could turn off the funny He would have been more Roger one That's true Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:21 He would have not been Dang up great He would have been Pierce Brown Might be kind of fun at this point I like your take of Bumbling sounds more like What you would feel about him As an agent
Starting point is 00:09:30 Like he wouldn't get the job You can't that guy on a mission? Just look at him. Sputtering around. Can't even talk to Andy MacDell. James one? Quite right.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I've got to go. I'm in. I would, yeah, so that's where I stand. I say as long as he's not American. As long as he's in the empire, I'm okay. Right. I think that's the key. Because you've had an Englishman, a Scotsman, an Irishman, a Welshman, and Australian.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah. All of which have the. queen on the money. That's right. Who is the Australian? Lazyzby. Of course. Honor Majesty's Secret service.
Starting point is 00:10:12 You really did it to us, Australia. I mean, that's all, is that all the British Isles? Am I forgetting something? Including Australia. I guess we could take a Canadian. Somebody's phone. Somebody's phone. Which phone? That would be the worst. That'd be worse than an American. I know. I'm really offending huge
Starting point is 00:10:30 nations right now. What Canadian actors? An Australian would be super tough. I'll give you that. Yeah. Yeah. I think that if you are going to, I mean, I'd even, I'd have it be a British woman before I'd have it be an American man. Here's a, I think this is going to be unpopular.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Bennoisse. That's not unpopular. I think that's a popular, that's very populous, I would say. But as Bond? Yes. I've heard that before. I think the only issue I'd have about that is he's kind of everywhere right now. Yeah, he's in pretty much.
Starting point is 00:11:01 many places. Did anyone see, put your phone in airplane mode for a second, Andy? I think it's feeding back. Sorry, listeners. It's been a while. We're dusting off the old Aston Martin here. Yeah. Do you see Dr. Strange? No. Me either. Did he have an American accent? Yes. That's weird. It is weird. Why would you do that? I think, I find that often when a Brit does an American accent, they lose their comedic ability. because the rhythm is different. Yeah, that's interesting. He can do it in both accents.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Wow, I'm going to look out for that. That's very interesting. Let me ask you this, guys. How are you approaching your list of ranked songs? Are you doing it as what you think is objectively best in the world? Well, here's how I did it. Or what you subjectively think is better, like, to your own tastes. Maybe we asked the guests first, and then I'll tell you exactly how I made my list.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I started to, I might be off base in terms of the audience, the general audience, perspective because I really did I started to go well this one deserves and this one go and then there are certain songs that because of when they came out in my emotional reaction to you know the time I was going through or whatever that was just like I don't need to hear that song anymore so it's very subjective but do you have any positive versions of that like oh this was a great time and this song is tied to that yes and I think I very very heavily it's very heavily latent with with uh with uh the taste for more of the badass kind of tone than the kind of girly ballads. Sure. Okay. Yeah. I sort of just went through, and again, I think this we should specify, this is a list of our favorites. We're ranking our favorites.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Not the best, not the worst. Although I think you'll find that the bottom of our list is rock solid. I really don't think you're going to have any trouble agreeing with us on that. You might with mine, Matt. Okay, okay. All right, you're throwing that out there now. I like that. Three blind mice.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I like that. I like that like that like that island version of three blind mice. Three blind mice. And I'm going to be. But I sort of just started by looking at the list of songs in my mind and writing as soon as I was like, I love that song. I wrote it down. And then if I saw another song, I was like, I love that song. but I love it more.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I put it above the other one. That's good. That's sort of how the list form. And I think that's important to know that that's the way it should be for everyone. We're well aware that these songs like these movies, there's a popular conception of what you have to like and what have to be the top few.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And that's not how we're approaching this. So this isn't a list to quibble with. It's a list to squabble with. Yeah. Jump off, springboard off and make your own list and enjoy the time you have with your family this holiday season. Think of this episode of the James Bonding podcast as our holiday gift to our listeners. And the reason I'm saying that really is because I've got some real shit heaps up in my top ten.
Starting point is 00:14:11 People are going to have some issues with. And I don't want your issues. I'm ready to be. Pretty angry about it, actually. Oh, God, I knew you'd do it. I knew you'd do it. No, it's not exactly true. But there's no way to find out other than to dive in.
Starting point is 00:14:25 The way we're going to do this is whenever a song gets mentioned for the third. time, that's when we'll stop and discuss it. And the problem here is that we have a real wild card, and that's Andrew Secunda. That's right. We don't have added control. We don't know what he's doing. He's just wearing boxers straight in that. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:42 He's got a tie tied around his head. And a lampshade. That's for later. Andy actually is just part of the live viral marketing for office Christmas party in theaters, December 16th. I don't see it. It's going to be out of control. I'm willing to be. our number 24 is all the same.
Starting point is 00:15:01 This is a great, this is great. So I think the best way to do this is we'll start with Andrew. And then we'll build. We'll build, because I think, here we go. We're going to start with Andrew. We're also going to mention Never Say Never Again, Casino Royale and a few others.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Why don't we rank those separately? Okay, yeah, that's good. Ranking of the non-canon James Bond songs. Okay. Andrew, what's your worst James Bond theme song coming in at number 24? Die another day. Madonna. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And I have to actually... Hang on. We're not discussing until we're naming off of it. Oh, okay. Sorry, you're right. Yeah. Mine is,
Starting point is 00:15:38 Die Another Day by Madonna. Well... Mr. Matt Goerley. Guys, I hate to do this, but mine's die another day as well. Yes! We know it's the worst song ever made. Well done, Madonna.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Hey, she got us to agree on something. It wasn't David Arnold. feel like he would produce this track. No, it was some, like, DJ guy. I can't remember. Who is it? Like, like, the Chemical Brothers or something like that. I'm sorry, I'm lost in this, yeah, in this, it's just so out of place. It, lyrically, it's insane. Just listen to it. It's so of the era. Yeah. I'm really turning it up for the listener. Let me tell you some controversial, though. Oh, go ahead. That movie, for me, is aging better because, because it's aging so badly that it's becoming really enjoyable to watch.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I think this movie ultimately is going to be on the level of a diamonds or forever or a no deal to kill like a bad watch. You're thinking the campiness of it is already. I enjoy watching this more than the two that came before it. I can't. Really? I can't. I can't. This is an aneurys informing right behind my left eye because of what you're saying right now.
Starting point is 00:16:56 It's so bonkers this movie. It's crazy. I wanted to like it so much. This was the 20th Bond movie. It was a huge deal. And they really threw everything into it. You guys refresh my memory. Sure, of course.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Dye of the Day is Pierce Brosman. His last one. His last movie. And now what's different about this one? Hallie Berry. Holly Berry and what's her face? Frost. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Miranda Frost. Gone Girl. Gone Girl. The girl from Gone Girl. Yeah. Why can I not remember her name? Emily Radikowsky? No.
Starting point is 00:17:33 What is your name? Boy, it's bothering me right now. And I can't Google it because my phone's in airplane mode. So is mine. Jesus, this is what podcasts are like. We're being the worst. Hang on, hang on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Listen to all three of us as you're screaming at your phones or cars. Oh, this is. It's super frustrating for an audience listener. Miranda Frost. I'll look it up. He's going to look it up, guys. We're going to get an answer in a second. So to refresh your memory, Andy, he gets caught in North Korea.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Is that the one where he goes off the side of the... No, that's later. He goes off the side of a lot of things. This one is Hovercrafts running over minefields. And this is also the movie of Glacial... Rosamond Pike. Rosamond Pike. She's in that?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Wow. She's the Bond Girl. Well, she's the other Bond Girl, aside from Jinks. He gets captured North Korea, disavowed by the government. And then there's a prisoner exchange with North Korea. They're going to give away Colonel Moon, right? Is it Moon or is it the other one? I've already fallen asleep and it's not your retelling.
Starting point is 00:18:41 In order to get, and they get Bond back in an exchange. And then Bond gets, Bond is tortured by North Korea. And then they're trying to find out if Bond gave up any names or anything. And then Bond goes rogue. But this song. I mean, by the way, as I'm telling the story, this could have been a way better movie. Yeah, it starts strong.
Starting point is 00:19:05 It's an intriguing premise. Yeah. But this song is just... Well, I think any song where the music stops and the vocalist says, Sigmund Freud, probably not up to a strong start. And just the production style.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Analyze this. Analyze this. It makes no sense. Paid by Billy Crystal to put that in the song. It feels like it was taken from someone's collection going, I'm like, I think I could retrofer it a bond song to this. It sounds nothing like the bond song. I have to make an admission that back in the day, I was a really big Madonna fan.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Like the 80s day, the heyday? Yeah. What do you mean by, how many times have you seen her live? Definitely once. I don't remember if it went to twice. Yeah. But yeah, definitely way too late where you should have checked out. No, you were, wait, until like even the rodeo phase?
Starting point is 00:20:00 No. No, I'm saying who's that girl. Yeah, okay. Nice. So you, did you? I loved her. I thought she was the best. You supported her through Dick Tracy?
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah. Yeah, sure. Dick Tracy, yeah. I thought there were some good songs on that. She's got some good stuff. I love like a prayer. I think that's a perfect song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Oh, yeah. Great. Super talented. Madonna, by the way, if you're listening. That was later. That could have been a boss. I just have to say to Madonna, if you're listening, we have nothing against you.
Starting point is 00:20:28 No. You just made a terrible James Bond song. I wonder how much she had input-wise on that song. It seems like a lot because they gave her a chunky cameo. Yeah, that's true. Verity. She just decided. She had a name.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Well, it's no surprise. That's our 24th song. That pleases me to no end that we are all not lunatics. I think that's where most of the world would come together. I feel like it's something that can be played in a club and everyone would leave the dance floor. And Clinton supporters alike. Guys, liberals and alt-rights and white supremacists and loony lefties all can agree on one thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Die another day is terrible. All right. This is interesting. This now, I feel like our list are going to go crazy splintered. Andrew Secunda, if you could, what is your number 23 James Bond song? All right, I'll say, but I'm uncomfortable going first all the time. Okay. I'll go, we'll switch it up.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Living Daylights, aha. Well, we can't talk about it until the third one's mentioned. And at that time, you can then say why it's so low. Yeah. Okay. Solo. I don't know why you put that so long. It's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I already turned on me, folks. It's writings on the wall by Sam Harris from Specter. This song is not aged well in just a year for me. Sam Smith. Not Sam Harris. Who's Sam Harris? The political novelist. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:22:03 That I'm into. Sure. Cheers to tap for the next one. It's Brad Meltzer is going to do the next. That was a fun poll of people who write historical fiction. Okay. Okay. Mine is, you know my name.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And I'm sorry I did that because I know it's on your favorite movie. Yeah. And your favorite movie too, right? My favorite movie that isn't from Russia with Love. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:33 We're going to have to get to those in a minute here. Yeah. Number 22. I'll go. My number 22 is from license to kill. Uh-huh. License to kill. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Andrew? Mine is Never Say Never Again. Well, you can't. All right. You've got to go bump up. We're going up to your next level because you put in the non-canonical, never say never again, which is okay. Which is okay.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That is why I'm going to do it separately. I was looking at my list. Yeah. Now I realize that. Sorry Matt just yelled at you. No, Andy, no. Down. Okay, so then I remove that.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, we'll talk about that later. I bump up to the next one. Yeah. Okay. Then you'll be interested to know that it is also licensed to kill. Guys, I'm not far behind, but I'm not there yet. I'm willing to go that far yet. Mine is tomorrow never dies.
Starting point is 00:23:21 You have no idea how far off you are here. Save it for the discussion. Interesting. You enrage me with this pick of yours. He's a crow hater. Oh, God. So this is now, here's how this is now, this is now going to get confusing. I think as far as the list.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Are you keeping correct? Maybe make little barks? I think we'll remember. We'll remember once we've hit all three. Okay, so then my next one, number 21. Is the writings on the wall, Spectre. Okay, so that's two.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, I will keep. Yeah. Spector has now been mentioned two times. Okay. This is. go ahead Andrew what is it? I'm at least feeling better about this part of the podcast yeah mine is also writing song on the wall
Starting point is 00:24:02 that's three times this is like the beetle juice of podcasts oh no Sam Smith disappeared buddy you wrote a terrible James Bond saw you got an Oscar for and you ripped off Tom Petty what a career it's the second
Starting point is 00:24:22 worst bond song collectively for us and it's the only Oh, he won an Oscar? Did Skyfall win? He won an Oscar. Skyfall won an Oscar. So it's the second Oscar one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Let's talk about this. I wanted to like this. I thought he was a great choice. It just feels a little bit like it's phone game or something. I was like this is a lovely inspired choice by you Miss Broccoli. Love of my life. That he said that they basically wrote it in 20 minutes and kind of reported it. Are you playing the snippets?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Oh, he'll snippet. Yeah. Although I'm not sure if Matt's phone is allowed to play this. because it's so bad. It does feel there's something missing Bond style. Okay, so I'm already hearing I'm hearing this. This is very like
Starting point is 00:25:05 You Only Live Twice String section. So I'm into this. I was like on board. Well, this is the thing. Whenever it starts with the classic Bond feel, then I'm always like all right. Yeah, you've done it. And then he starts singing in a falsetto and
Starting point is 00:25:22 I really don't know what he's telling me in this song. Also, it feels like There's something about the second line that feels like it needs to modulate or change, but it's just to kind of repeat. That's why it feels like a first pass on a song. I think his song could be strong if you spend a little more time with it. And not to say that I could outdo Sam Smith, but it just feels like he needed to do another pass. And I think you guys should throw down.
Starting point is 00:25:46 All right. On the quads after school. This is a problematic statement on my part. I feel like you break down with James Bond songs into, the hard ones, the hard sort of guitar hard one, and the sort of girly ballads.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. And I don't want to hear a guy singing the girly ballads. Yeah, so are there any other... Is that a problematic statement? I'm trying to think if there's some like crooning ones like from Russia with love. This is like, well, I mean this is like, you should be like, oh my God, this is great. But this also feels like a pre-chorus, but this is actually the chorus. I know. It goes past this.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Because then it goes back down with this. It doesn't really... I'll tell you why. Yeah, I don't care for the song. Just to reconsider my own statement. It's because if it's the girl singing, it's usually the girl singing to James Bond.
Starting point is 00:26:42 This is in James Bond's voice. Right. As many of them are, but those are usually the upbeat ones. Yeah. Right. Presumably, this is James Bond. I mean, Sam Smith's also gay, so it could be that he's singing to James Bond in a way.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Which I don't have a problem with, It hasn't been established in the James Bond character, so it's just a, it's a canon issue, really. I think he's into whatever. Maybe this is Silva. I do. This is Silva singing. Yeah. He would definitely do whatever he had to do to get it.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah, I'm sure he's blown a guy. I really wanted to like this song. It really, really did. I think there's a whole other podcast episode, frankly. Has James Bond ever blown a guy? Not in the Fleming novels, that's for sure. He was of his time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah, this song should be better than it is. And listening to it now, I'm just like, it sounds like a James Bond song. It feels like it's from a musical to me, like a laymise or something. Yes, like he's standing on the hilltop set. Waving a flag. And he's, yeah. Someone's dead at his feet. You know what he's doing?
Starting point is 00:27:47 He's waving two flares to an overpassing rescue helicopter. Yeah. I love this now. Now I like the song that we've written this musical for it. an imaginary video for it. It's too late. All right, Sam Smith. You had a lovely...
Starting point is 00:28:01 We should at least talk to it as long as the song lasts. Well, we got a lot to get through. I mean, it's really... You know, it's going on. Oh, wait. No. What's supposed to happen?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Uh-oh. So there we go. We have agreed on Specter. We all said that. So now I'm having a hard time tracking what number I'm on. Well, we're still on 21, because I haven't said my 21.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Okay. And that's Golden Eye. I just... I love Tina Turner. But I think the production is weak, and it ruins it for me. Like, it's kind of too synthy. Wait, are you going into it? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah, he is going into it. I apologize. I just have to check one thing. One, two, three. Oh, my God. You should kick me out of my own home, Randall. I'll happily take this home. His home, by the way, is very reminiscent
Starting point is 00:28:55 of where Bond would live after he was. tired. That'd become slightly sad but was still awesome. It was probably not on purpose but couldn't have been an accident. Oh, you have a leather door. It was on purpose.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Well, that far was, for sure. All right, we're on to number 20. Oh, boy, oh boy. Number 20. It's got pictures of hounds on the walls. I'll go first on number 20. Okay. Moon Raker.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Hmm. For me, it's the world is not enough. No, I'm sorry, sorry. License to Kill. License to Kill has now been mentioned. Two times. That's perfect timing. This is going to be, I think, probably super controversial.
Starting point is 00:29:34 All-time high. Well, let me tell you what. It's not going to be controversial on Matt Myra's end. It's going to be controversial on the Matt Gorely side of it. Unless they get ahead of ourselves, we've all named Licensed to Kill now. It's time to talk about it. To me, this is... Okay, so now I'm here...
Starting point is 00:29:52 I hear the James Bondiness of this. But I also hear heavy 90s R&B. That's the problem. problem. But more than that, to me this song sounds like a parody of a James Bond song. Yeah, it does. It's kind of like... This sounds like what the people who are auditioning for American Idol would listen to before they went out and did their rehearsed performance. Right. They're like, okay, I have to hit that many notes before I...
Starting point is 00:30:18 Okay. Hey, this is a stupid question, but it's been so long since we've done an episode and we've been doing this podcast for so long. Yeah. Have we already done or ranked the theme song? We've only done top five. Okay. We've only done, we did, we did an episode top five that were top five of everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Oh, okay. All right. This is the music special. This is the music special. They've never ranked all 24. The audience would be in range. No, they'd listen. So we got Gladys Knight here.
Starting point is 00:30:47 It'd be interesting to compare if you guys. I know. Oh, I'm sure mine have changed. They changed daily. I don't know. It'd be interesting. You can find that episode. That was from L.A. Podfest with Nick Weiger and
Starting point is 00:30:58 Larry Miller. That was the episode where we did those rankings. Is it? Wow, God. What a memory on this guy. I try, you know. Now, this song, they were sued by by whom?
Starting point is 00:31:09 The Goldfinger authors, because they sampled the horn notes. They didn't sample, I don't believe they sampled the actual horns, but this. And so they had to settle within the own Eon production thing. And did they think they were maybe
Starting point is 00:31:23 lifting from another Bond movie, and so they thought it was cool? I don't know. Maybe they did actually sample the horns, but I don't think so. I think they just sampled the notes. And so part of the proceeds of this song now go to whoever was John Barry, I guess. That's bananas. I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah, I don't care for this song. It's got those 90s, like heavy pop drums. Yeah. Listen to that. Even though this is 89, whatever. It is easy listening, but not in the good way. Not in the good way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It's not a bad song. You had to jump to the defense of easy listening. Well, I'm going to need. that later on. If I should talk you to listen now, it's not going to look later.
Starting point is 00:32:04 You mean when you're a DJ at a music listening station. What is it about this song? Because it does stay with me. I find like after listening to a round of Bond song, sometimes I'll come away singing this one. I'm not always happy about it, but...
Starting point is 00:32:16 I mean, it is fun that in the lyric of this song is licensed to kill. It's a fun phrase of Barry James Bond live. That to me is partly... I mean, I don't... I do they have to...
Starting point is 00:32:28 work in the title in every episode. I mean, every episode. They don't always. Not always. Yeah. Well, that's one of the MOs. Yeah. And the way she works in seems so clunky here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It's in it a lot. It's in there quite a bit. That'd be, that's an interesting. Maybe once we get to the end of it, I wonder who is the best use of the title in the lyric. I'm going to write that down. That's a good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Good. Best use of title in lyric. I already have my answer. And I hope you have yours. Okay. All right, kids. We all dislike license to kill. Unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Now in the bottom five for all of us. All right? So you said all time high as well on that last one, right? You did. You'll pay for your sentence, but okay. You mark down that I hate Moonwaker, right? Yes, I got that. Mark that down.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I don't like Moonraker. I don't like marking that down, but... All right. So I already let mine slip, so I'll go first on 19, and that's... The world is nice. enough. I know this is going to be unpopular.
Starting point is 00:33:30 We're not going to talk about it for a long time. That's true. I can tell you that much. All right. Andrew? You know what? Since you're not ready, I'll just yell mine out right now. We've already, we've established that I don't care for Moonraker.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And now we're going to establish that I only care for the Golden Eye theme slightly more than Moonraker. That's two for GoldenEye. Sure is. Not fans of GoldenEye. Love the game. Mine is Casino Royale. You know my name. Two for you know my name. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:34:06 You big Cornell booster? Well, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. In a while. We won't talk about it. In a while. All right. So we have to now move on to our next least favorite.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And I'd like to tell everybody that my next least favorite song is Thunderball. Uh-oh. For me, this is the first time mentioned for another way to die. Oh. For me, we are not far off on that. We have all the time in the world, Louis Armstrong. Oh, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I don't know. I think we have to take the theme to Honor Majesty's Secret Service for that movie. That can be one of those extra songs. Okay. Oh, is that where you're going to go with that? Okay. Because that's not really the credits theme, you know? That's true.
Starting point is 00:34:56 that is true we'll put it in that the extras section and from Russia with love what is the theme is it from Russia with Love and Matt Hart there's a lyrical version of it but but it's the orchestral version that they play on the credits correct that is correct wait so we're counting the song
Starting point is 00:35:12 in from Russia with love though yes we're counting the song yes so what are we counting in on our majesty secret service the theme song it's an instrumental which I don't think if you've ever heard you want me to play it please yeah we'd be happy to play it I mean I must have going to be very high on our list.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Right. With the movie. Hold on. Oh, yeah. Bad boys, bad boys. I remember this. Oh. See, this is already going to be much higher on my list.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Way to let really kicks in. God. This is amazing. I'm going to go take a bath. You know, I think we should cut it now because we're just going to want to talk about it. Okay. And we got to save it. Oh, this was this was.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's a classic. This was amazing. I'm sorry. Andrew. I got so excited. So now my list is completely all messed up. So I had said Thunderball. You had said another way to die.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And Andrew Secunda had said. Wait. Are we jumping to the next one? No, no. This was the one you hadn't yet said. Well, he said. Oh, you said you have all the time of the world. Which we now.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Jump to the next one and then just throw that theme in up top wherever you want it to go. Up top, that's very suggested. We all know where that's. Mine now is Moonwaker, surely. That's two for Moonwraker. But still not a discussion round. But still not yet. We move on to...
Starting point is 00:36:43 Matt, what's your next one? Number 17. And look, I think we're actually now entering... And it happens somewhere around another way to die, which I don't hate. But we're entering the phase of, I don't dislike these songs. These are good songs. But now we've got an embarrassment of riches. So I'm just going to go from Russia with love because it's kind of...
Starting point is 00:37:02 a song that doesn't totally fit a bond. Interesting. You know, I like it, but. Interesting. It's not one that grabs me. You know how much I love that movie. Yeah, I know. Sometimes the movie helps more hurts a song.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It's true. Very true. My number 17 is another way to die. That's two for another way to die. I love the anticipation. Yeah. It's the greatest podcast ever. Where do we get the award?
Starting point is 00:37:32 I'm going on, Tomorrow Never Dies, there. Oh, you're both fucking retarded. We got a lot of songs on deck for discussion, guys. We have so many. We might have a two-song discussion round, possibly. Whoa, that's interesting. But that is true, we might. We're moving on to rock.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I will say I do like that song, so I don't know what we're feeling about at this point. I think that's where we're probably all. You know what I wish that that beautiful print was that you have hanging above the thing? I wish it was a print of Skyfall. I was just thinking it kind of looks like amazing. Here's what I want to tell you. You know that like the back part of our backyard where there's like a fence you go through? I want to put two pillars there with stags on them.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Oh my God. You have to do that. And I won't even tell Amanda that that's what it's from. No, she won't know. She'll be like, that's great. She does not listen to your podcast. No, she doesn't listen. She understands our love.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And in her defense, there are too many. Like, what is she going to do, spend all day listening to my James Bonding? She can't. She can't. All right, so we're on number 16. Number 16, so I had just said another way to die. Matt, would you care to lead us off with your 16th? I will, because mine is the first time mention.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I think this is going to be unpopular for your eyes only. And I'll talk about when we get there. Interesting. I can't believe that. This is where I put Golden Eye. Oh. Tina Turner. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Guess what? That means we get to talk about Golden Eyes. Let me dial that up here. Golden Eye starts with a lovely. lovely horn hit. Yeah, but let's hear those horns. Andy's hitting the cough button. People think we have a cough button.
Starting point is 00:39:15 This is one of those Zoo Cruzeos shows, right? My goofy sound is a cough. Those are just synthy horns. They're very synthet. It does not produce well, but the choice is right. Yeah, the choice is right. But also this does feel more like a U-2 song to me than a Bond song.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Well, I mean, it is. I know. Although I wonder what it. Did they ever record it? Yeah, they did. It's like a demo. Do you have it? Let me check.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Mm-mm-mm-mm. You know what? I'm starting to like this song more. Really? Oh, yeah. Ooh, where am I? I feel like I'm an industrial Germany. You look like it.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Oh, yeah. Tina Turner's vocal is fantastic. Great vocal. She's the thing that does it for me in this song. So, which one you didn't like it? All of us. We've all mentioned it now. Well, I had it low.
Starting point is 00:40:14 You had it low on your list. So to me, Tina Turner is the thing that is, like, why you have to put it a little higher. She is the quintessential person who should do it. That's true. And I did put it higher on her benefit. That's how I don't care. I mean, her vocal is great. I think that the, this is the first, you got to think about it where it is.
Starting point is 00:40:34 This is James Bond's first foray into theaters and six. years, 1995, coming back with Golden-A, Christmas of that year. I still have that teaser poster. And I was very excited as a kid for this movie to come out. I'm sure you were excited as an adult. This was not the height of my bond. Oh, that's right. You would sort of abandon us.
Starting point is 00:40:56 You had said to yourself, you know what, I'm over you. And then I was like, but man. I always think it's going to go into, you never know that you're my hero. Yes. Yeah, I agree. I just don't think it's a bondish melody, but I don't think it's a great melody. She's great, though. She's so good.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But this also, I think, this song aesthetically, or what is the word for an aesthetic of sound? What is that? Is that aesthetic? It can be sound. Sure, okay. The aesthetic of this song is that,
Starting point is 00:41:37 is very much um Boris's computer yeah that's sort of what I picture here it's like ooh email let's sort of put that in oh they're hacking she needs modems it goes specifically with the visuals
Starting point is 00:41:52 which yeah like cutting edge CG at the time but now it's very basic and and it's like the fall of the of the steel curtain I don't hate this song like I said of course I'm talking about the defensive line for the Steelers
Starting point is 00:42:05 sure But yeah, so I think this song is not, it's not one of my least favorite. It's in the middle for me. Yeah. But it's also something I could not hear for the rest of my life and be okay. Put it this way. When I go to my James Bond playlist on iTunes.com. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I don't put this one on first or even second. But do you skip it? Technically, I guess I put it on 21st. If you were asked me today. Do you skip it? Yeah, I don't. You skip it. Sometimes. That's an interesting question.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It doesn't call to me in the middle of the night like some of them do. It has very little about it, I will say, that is memorable other than Tina Turner. Honestly, it is those horns, because on a Bond song, you need that old school brass. But they must have purposely made the decision to go let sound a little synthy. Because also the soundtrack to this film deserves to die in an old trash can and a sub-listation. This one and Tomorrow Never Dies. Yeah. Like the, I don't love the industrial chic James Bond theme.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah. I don't mind the one that Moby remixed for World is Not Enough. That one I don't mind. But the David G. Arnold one was a little too, let's use a synthesizer. Otherwise, it's a wonderful composer. Absolutely. I wish we had him back with us. God rest his soul.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Okay. Sure. All right. We're going to assume he's dead. He's not. He's not dead. He's fine. He's on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:43:33 He's on Twitter. He's going to be very upset When he hears this I don't think we heard all of the choices from that round Did we? We did not hear Andy's choice So the last one I say golden eye
Starting point is 00:43:48 And that's what set us off Oh yeah Did we not hear mine? What was your number 16? Boy, I wish I listed them Another way to die And then diamonds are forever Oh, okay
Starting point is 00:43:58 So we didn't hear yours Yeah, diamonds are forever That's very low Disagree, we get it, Shirley Bassie, we got it with Goldfinger. Thank you. You are a truly bassi-hating. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Man, line in the sand. All right. For me, it's time to talk about, is yours a talker? Which what? Your number 16 or number 15? Oh, no, that was your number 16. That was my number 16. So now we're going to number 15.
Starting point is 00:44:26 All right. My next one is another way to die. It's time to talk about another way to do. Everybody. We've now heard another way to die from all of us. So let's set the scene for Andy. I don't know if you remember 2005. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:42 It's a great time. We'd been without a James Bond for approaching five years. This is another one of those periods of time where we're like, when are they going to make a James Bond movie? When are they going to make a James Bond movie? And then the news starts to filter out. They're doing Casino Royale. They're doing Casino Royal. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:59 They got the rice. They're doing Casino Real. Very excited. I could not wait. I'm like, you're doing the origin? This is going to be fantastic. and then the movie proceeds to open with with what I would call
Starting point is 00:45:13 oh this is another way to die this is quantum solace yeah that's what I said I was like running into I was running into I was getting a long backstory it's the same movie it's part one and part two we're not getting we're not doing you know my name is going to be way later boy I feel real dumb so I'll set the
Starting point is 00:45:32 side of scene for you it was two years later a writer's strike had stopped all the writing midway through the movie, and you could tell. However, that writer's strength didn't apply to music writing, so I don't know why this is such a bad song. You hate the song. No, I think I don't hate the song, because it's not, I mean, it wasn't blinded because I'm such a big Jack White fan.
Starting point is 00:45:54 See, I'm not a Jack White fan, but I think I like this song. This of all the songs is the one that has the most dynamic range in my choices. Like, some days I love it. Some days are like, oh, this is pretty dumb. I got to tell you, Alicia Keys fucking crushing the vocals. I think that Jack White's distorted guitar playing and bass playing is delightful. Okay. I think that it's a, it's a good song.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yeah, I don't. But it's not a good James Bond song. Yeah, maybe. The only reason it works is a Bond song is because they put those horns there. And this. Yeah. I agree. What is this?
Starting point is 00:46:32 What is this? That he could have James Bond. Is this a remix? It's like the, yeah, this is a weird. They played it on the radio right when it came out, and I was so excited to get it. I, like, ripped it from the internet. And this was, like, some... Like, radio edit.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I think Italian radio station or Spanish radio station or something. They definitely could have James bonded it up a little bit more. Yeah. But I like the spin of how Jack White approaches kind of taking it and making it his own. I would let... Yeah, but I agree, yes. You could have put more of the riffs in and horns and such. And it also came...
Starting point is 00:47:06 The title of a lot of die titles for movies, so the title is pretty vague and boring, and the lyrics aren't, there's something. Do they say quantum of solace at any point? Big problem. I got a big problem with that. I don't like when the title of the song, the movie, is not in the song, either in the lyrics or the title of the song itself. I will say it's an unfair level of comparative difficulty.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Yeah, that's true. It's hard to get quantum of solace. of solace into a lyric. Quadro Salas was Ian Fleming title, right? Yes. Yeah. That's why it's hard.
Starting point is 00:47:42 The whole movie should have been called property of a lady for crying out loud. God, that would have been a delightful version of octopuses. You mean like
Starting point is 00:47:50 live, die, repeat? Oh, like do another movie. Oh, I see. I thought you were saying they would retitle I don't know. That's such a big,
Starting point is 00:47:59 that's such a big moment in octopusy that I would feel weird if they decided to call one property of a lady. Yeah, maybe. Although they did the world is not enough.
Starting point is 00:48:07 That's true. Which is sort of a big reveal in Unimagined Secret Service. The other thing to mention is I think this song was sort of thrown together pretty quickly because all rumors suggest that Amy Winehouse was set to do this movie's theme song and it fell through. Oh, Amy Winehouse would have done great. She would have destroyed everything. I would love to have heard that. It's very strange, though.
Starting point is 00:48:33 She was so good. I don't know. Why do they have any weird choices on this list? Can't they get anyone? Not afraid to die. Yeah, we have a good time. You're enjoying song? All right.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Thank you. That's a good question. I know you should think that they would be able to pull anyone they wanted it at any time. Anytime they don't have whoever the perfect person is. I'm always baffled. Well, I think she was imploding at that point. That's what happens. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:49:03 But then, I mean, as I said, I love Jack White. Alicia Keys, but it does seem like they're an odd choice. Yeah, especially together. I think it was good. I think Jack understood that you don't really want a male vocal on a James Bond song. I think, but he does half the vocals.
Starting point is 00:49:21 He does half. It's Colin response. I think this song pairs well with the visuals for that movie, though. Definitely. Yes, I will give you that. It's a fine pairing. Guys, this is fun.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I don't want this to end. It's like listening to the Beatles with that earmuffs. a hundred more choices. And small to it. Okay. All right. So that was mine for that round.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Where are you boys at? Oh, no. I said mine. It kicked it off and then you guys never said yours. Great. Okay, yeah. Mine is, uh, I said diamonds are forever, correct? That would make my next choice.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I didn't number these, so that's the problem with me. All time high. Where are we? Is it two or? It's two. And it's going to be stuck at two for quite a while. Uh-huh. Where was I?
Starting point is 00:50:06 So I said. From Russia with Love last? Yeah. Did I say, For Your Eyes Only? I did. You did, and we decided that was very unpopular. Yeah. So my next one is Moon Raker.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Ooh. We're there, right? Yep. Wait, that was three? That's three for Moonraker. I'm excited. It's like an exciting thing when we get to do that. I like the song.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I like it just fine. Again, we're in the middle, Matt. We're in that tricky area, the milky whiteness of James. James Bond songs. It doesn't fit the movie because the movie's all moated and bombastic. I think the movie, this should, by all rights and how this movie ended up getting made, this should sound like a John Williams score. Like they tried so hard to be Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And disco-disco-y at that. This is like a Diane Carroll disco ballad. Well, you ever get that disco, that disco Star Wars album? Do you have that? No, but I have his disco James Bond. Okay. Yeah. You have the Disco Star Wars album.
Starting point is 00:51:07 You know what I'm talking about right. That's bad album. That's what Moonraker should have sounded like. This is a great melody. It's a great song. I just don't know if it's right. It's not right for that movie. It's not right for it.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I do like it, though. Well, I mean, it's it harkens back. It's, you know, it's really best. Yeah. It's beautiful. I mean, it's got a lovely voice. Let me just turn this up a little bit right here.
Starting point is 00:51:32 A love story from the 70s or something. I mean, it's a very, it's like, it's a. siren song. It lures you in. Yeah. The heart of the problem with it, because her vocals are obviously great and it's classy.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Remember how much she... There's no hook at all. Yeah. Yeah. There is no hook. It's like a flaccid penis. It's also the lyrics are like ambiguous, just like the Moon Raker goes. You know what? I can't even knock that. I'm in. That sounds good.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Where are you? You are going to be an easy. listening DJ. Oh my God. I was born in the wrong. The song is so... The song is so nothing to me. It's something to me. It's just maybe not the right.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I don't even strongly dislike it. That's how nothing it is to me. And we're sort of in the area. There's nothing. This is now Shirley Bathy's third. Third, yeah. Third go around the bend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I just feel like if you're going to go back to Shurley. Shirley Bassey, don't switch it up. I think you're going to go back to fucking Shirley Bassie. You crank some horns and let her voice carry the song. That's what that alternate song for Quantum of Solace was Shirley Bassy, and it kind of kicked. I wish it would have been. Wait, it was Shirley Bassie recorded?
Starting point is 00:52:56 Man. There's so many altered at James Bond songs, Andy, because they all submit to producers. And they're like, I have to write it. I was wondering how that plays into my theory about why don't they just get whoever they can get. and I wonder if they... Yes. Well, what happens? McJagger submitted one, and they were like, no, McJagger.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Sorry? That basically almost happened with Paul McCartney, where I think George Martin was already doing the score, or someone brought Harry Salsman in the tape, and he's like, I love it. Can we get someone else to do it? Paul McCartney? Yes. That's amazing. And I think George Martin said, well, if you want the song, you kind of got to go with McCartney.
Starting point is 00:53:36 You got to go with the Beatle? Yeah. This would have been the Quantum of Salas song. We've talked about this before, but you can hear this melody throughout the score. Yeah. What? Wait, if they had a recorded, what didn't they? They thought it would be a bummer?
Starting point is 00:53:52 I think they just needed a pop hit. That's the problem. Like, they wanted a radio hit. Here we go. Oh, they're crazy. I mean, I love Jack White. And this is about the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:12 This is, like, really about what James Bond is feeling. And it's an appropriate mixing. of the past and the present in Amy Winehouse. It's a good title too, no good about goodbye. That could even be a Bond movie. So is there plan to get Amy to record this? I don't think so. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Maybe, though. I don't know. That's, I think, one of the keys also to a great team's fun theme is when that performer's attitude is appropriately mixed with James Bond, which it is perfectly in this one. It would have been great
Starting point is 00:54:44 to have Shirley Bassie come back after all those years. I know. That would have very cool. It seems like a real missed opportunity. They could still do it. Yes, but can. Like live, I repeat? Yeah, just like lived I repeat. Andy, everything is just like lived I repeat.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Retitle of Edge of Tomorrow. This is the point of the podcast where I murder Andy. And he comes back. And he tries to get further through the podcast. Is that it for a round? That's it for a round. No, another way to die. we did.
Starting point is 00:55:19 This is now oh, this was for another way to die. We're now into Quantum of Salas playing the alternate theme, right? No, yeah, this is the alternate. This came under Moonraker. This came under Moonraker.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah, so that was 15. Oh, yeah, we listened to Moonraker. Did you all say your 15s? I would, I didn't, I numbered mine, and then I realized that there was a non-canonical choice. So Mike screwed up my numbering.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I had said from Russia with love, correct? Why don't we do this from now on? I don't think so. Well, I'm saying it now. But is that your next one or this? All time high. Why don't, even when we did our thing, okay, we're going to discuss it. The other two say their choices for that level.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Great. That's a good way to do it. Andy's way to do it is a good way to do it. As soon as we say it and we're like, woo, we did it. We got there. Moonwraker. And you guys hadn't said your choices yet. So just everybody say their choices for that level.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Okay. And then we'll take on the next. It's boss. Another way to die. I said Moonraker and you said... No, no. I said all time high. Oh, all time.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I said another way to die. It was my last one. Okay, yeah, Moonraker. So, okay, we finished that round. Great. And for round 14, I'm going to go pee. All right, round... Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Guys peeing. We don't know what could be coming up next. So, Andy, what do you think of your first visit to the James Bonding podcast? I'm enjoying it very much. I'm turning down Shirley Bassie on the headphones for the listeners at home. Is this going to go on the show? We keep talking while he's in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah, why not? Wow, it's really a slice of life. Perhaps an impractical one. Yeah, I mean, it's really, we like to, on this podcast, show everyone how little effort we put it to making it listenable. It's very quiet. I start describing movies that we're not even talking about. You know what it's like?
Starting point is 00:57:16 It's like watching M. Duproval. paperwork while there's no mission he's just oh I know I gotta get home to the wife yeah he's got like a meeting he's got to get to it's like all the way across London and he's like money penny I thought we'd move that
Starting point is 00:57:31 didn't we move that? Do you think he ever oh no we can't have this this is diamonds are forever we haven't we can't talk about it yet I'm going to pause this oh thank God man hot water and delay this even further sure you want some more hot water sure oh boy
Starting point is 00:57:46 Oh, man. I guess we'll pause. Just kidding. Andy, fill the time. Very good. I remember when I saw... Master improviser, Andy Suganda. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:58:00 That's a tremendous amount of pressure. You're so good at improv, Andy. Why don't you do some? Never been good at the monologue part. It's interesting to mention that there are... I just have a favorite, oh, go ahead. There's just a lot of songs we haven't even been mentioned once. I think, like, basically our top 10s.
Starting point is 00:58:24 We're going to have a great time. Yeah. We're going to crush. What was your question, Andy? It was a different all-time favorite question. Go ahead. What was it? What is it?
Starting point is 00:58:32 What is it? All right. Assuming that Blofeld's been played by several different people, which version of Blofeld? Oh, that's a question we've actually not been asked, right? Which version of Blofeld we like that? No, no. I'm saying, who's your all-time favorite villain?
Starting point is 00:58:46 and then built into the question is obviously certain people, certain actors have played different versions of the character, so you would choose that actor as that villain. Oh, Blofeld for me is always Donald Pleasance. I think I like the Telly Savalas thuggy version, though. Sure. Yeah, but who do you picture? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, right. You're right. Pleasance. Donald Pleasance. And aside from him, my favorite villain in a James Bond movie, I mean, it might be Silva. I like Silva. I like Zoran a lot.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Zorn was too broad for me. Yeah. Well, in that movie, he seems subtle. I'm going to pick Orick Goldfinger, even though it was not his actual voice. Sure. I was startled to find out.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Yeah, it was almost nobody's voice in those original films. It's true. It's crazy how good they were at fucking ADR at that time. You know, what's interesting, though, is like, yeah, it never sounds different. It always looks like
Starting point is 00:59:55 if you look at the performance in Goldfinger, you still. That was a masterful job of casting the other voice. Yeah. Yeah. And he's saying the English words. They just took it out. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing with Schwarzenegger in Hercules in New York. Right. Another great Although the goldfinger is also the movie that has.
Starting point is 01:00:15 We'll be back. We'll be back for the dogs. That is, no, Dr. No, is that. Oh, that's Dr. No. Fair enough. That guy, that voice of that guy, is in a bunch of movies, a bunch of James Bond movies. The guy that speaks with a bullhorn even when he takes it down? Yeah. Do you think it was just, he was in the sound room and they were like, hey, him.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah. Have Jeffrey do it. You, be that guy. Got the dogs. All right. All right. Here we go. On to round 14, number 14 on the list.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Oh boy. Now I'm getting excited because we're entering the area of songs I actually like. I got one after this round we're into ones that I'm all in on. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. So I have said from Russia with Love, correct? I had already marked that?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Or had I not? No, because I... Okay, so this is the start of this round. From Russia with Love. All right, that's two for From Russia with Love. Andrew? The world is not enough. Garbage.
Starting point is 01:01:09 That's two for the World is Not Enough. I'm going to be a real holdout here on these. And now two for Thunderball. This is a non-discussion round. Oh, non-discussion round. Non-discussion round, everybody. This is the first non-discussion round we've had in a while. Andy, how do you feel about non-discussion round?
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm excited about it. I feel like there's a lot of non-discussed. Are you excited because we get to move on and it gets closer to the end? Because I don't know if the listeners at home realize that essentially from here on out, we're just going to be having discussion rounds because we're now going to be knocking out all these great songs. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 01:01:48 It's going to pick up pace. We've actually structured this very wisely. I really think it's a masterful discussion from, I believe it was Mr. Matt Goerley who decided we should do it this way. I can't tell if it's... Take the credit, Matt. You got it.
Starting point is 01:02:01 It's a good haircut, Matt. Oh, thanks. I like it. I feel a bit like a jarhead. Yeah, it's not quite alt-right, but it's close. It's not quite what? Alt-right? God, no.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Oh, God. Well, that's the future, so you should be dressed for it. Matt and I are both writers on the Goldberg, so we're going first. Coming into that writer's room, hard and fast. Okay, so for much with love, I said, you, okay, so the next one I have written down. This is for number 13, number 13. Tomorrow Never Dies. This is me? You're asking me?
Starting point is 01:02:44 No, this is the next one. Tomorrow never dies. Andrew? The tension, I apologize. This is going to be probably a little bit worrisome. Skyfall. First mention for Skyfall. Not as worrisome as you might think.
Starting point is 01:03:01 And for me, it's the living daylights, which means it's time to discuss tomorrow never dies. Discussion round. Beep-bush, peep-choo. I'll start. I don't think this is a horrible melody. I think it's pretty good. And I like Cheryl Crow,
Starting point is 01:03:19 but she just is not right for this song. What do you mean? Do you think that you feel like it was more of a thing of like, let's get the hot pop star right now? Yeah, definitely. Because also, because they had already recorded Surrender by Katie Lang, which is an amazing Bond song.
Starting point is 01:03:34 It's so good. And they bumped it to the end of the movie for this because she was a bigger radio hit. I really like this song. I like the song, but I think it's meant to be a real tour song. This song is so just like... This would be a Shirley Bassy song. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It's not a Cheryl Crow song. She just doesn't have the... I don't know. You can hear it when she goes... It's not a Cheryl Crow song. Listen when it goes into the... I think when it gets into the fucking bombastic... She's straining for it.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Vocal. She's searching for it. She's searching for the note. I'll turn it up for the listener at home. You mean in the Shirley Bassie? this here. Yeah, right here. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:14 She just has to go nasally, and it just, it's not a, like, you need someone that can belt this thing. But the other part of it is so strong. Doesn't it kind of get you over the hump of, through this part? You know what I like about, you know what I like? It's so great and throaty and sexy. What I like about this one a lot is the, there's a very clear lead guitar line that happens throughout it.
Starting point is 01:04:37 That is very Vic Flick. James Bond theme-like. Yeah. I think part of it too is that this is from my least favorite Bond movie, which brings it down a little bit. So it also wasn't in my consciousness. I cannot understand.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, you can. If you want to listen to a very long podcast, listen to me, angry at Matt Goorley, while Jordan Morris sits by, confused why his parents are fighting. Because I love Tomorrow Never Does and Matt Goorley, not a fan.
Starting point is 01:05:05 It's his least favorite. Yeah, that's one of my favorites. But listen to it. What? The first brazener? Second Brasman. In many ways, the best Brasman. Oh, really? Nothing?
Starting point is 01:05:20 Oh, I guess you don't know how to work your phone. I guess this is a radio play now? It is a radio play. Okay. Come on. Before you speak, just let it ooze into you. That vocal, who is this? Katie Lank.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I mean, this is so the plot of the movie. Fine, maybe lyrically, but listen to the whole. hook the melody of the sing. Oh, I'm not putting it down because of that. I like it when it's a plot of the movie. It even has a classic horn, like, sample or quote from... Was Cheryl Crowe bigger, or they went to Cheryl Crowe because she was, like, more classic bond singing? No, no.
Starting point is 01:06:11 For her solely, like, radio numbers. I think I'm with... Gourley? Gourley on this. That's fine. To say Matt. Wouldn't have helped. I think...
Starting point is 01:06:22 I think Katie Lang is killing it here. I would put this, possibly almost in my top ten of Bond songs. It's such a good song. This screams Bond to me, this one. I kind of agree. This is amazing. This is great, but I have to break it to you guys. This wasn't used during the opening credits.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I know. And my Cheryl Crow song was, and it's great. My Cheryl Crow song. You know what? Also, really good production. Yeah. It's David Arnold. Oh.
Starting point is 01:06:51 He brings those horns in? Let me fast forward to the end on this one. You know what I don't like about it is the horn? I don't like the mute on the... Oh, I love it. On the trumpet. It's a little too, like, swing band. It goes for it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 It's two swing band. Katie Lang is unbelievable here. I am never really... Should we go to a Katie Lang concert together? I think we should. Do you think she'd play this ever? Wait, Andrew, did you say I think you should or I think we should? I said, I think we should.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It would have been funny if I said. I think you should. In the midst of all my enthusiasm, I'm going to go out of a KD-Ly-Ly-Ly-Ly-Ly concert. All right. That was a fun discussion round. Yeah, that was good. All right, we're on to...
Starting point is 01:07:36 We're on to the great, great, great songs. We haven't yet cracked the top ten, but we're on to round 12, number 12. I'll go. And it's time, after we name our three, to discuss all-time high. Oh, all-time high is now. Let's say a third time.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yes, I'll say yours. So mine is Man with the Golden Gun. First mention for Man with the Golden Gun. It's going to be a first mention for a while. Oh, people love Man with the Golden Gun. Popular. Skyfall. Whoa, were you surprised at how far down the list it is?
Starting point is 01:08:11 I think I am, yeah. I'm a little surprised, too. So let's discuss. So that was 12. That was 12. Oh, yes. This to me screams Roger Moore.
Starting point is 01:08:30 He loves this so much. Rita Coolidge. I don't know. This is one of those that I can't defend. I think it's just the time and the place and hearing it on the radio as a kid. This is the first Bond movie I saw in the theaters. Love this song.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Are you sure you weren't porn in an elevator? This is going to play at some point in our wedding. Not during the ceremony, but... I see that. But people will read it as ironic. They will not read it as romantic. They can do whatever they want to do. We played Skyfall at our wedding.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I didn't realize you weren't married yet. No. Oh, I'm excited. Oh, thanks. I have time to snuggle in there and get an invite. I don't really have to turn up the heat. I just met Matt, like, within the last month, his wife is not going to be pleased.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Well, maybe she'll come home and get to know you. What is it? Is there a date? May 6th. Oh, I got to work fast. Is it, where is it? I won't travel, Matt. Imitations have not yet gone out, so you're safe.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Okay, but where is it? Santa Inez. I mean, do we really want to be saying where Matt's wedding is and what the date of Matt's wedding is on a podcast? He's not going to be assassinated. No, I know he's not going to be assassinated, but I just think it's... I would describe it as uncouth.
Starting point is 01:09:52 You're right? Well, you can cut it out if you feel so strongly. I don't feel that strongly to do the effort of cutting it up. The work will not happen. Yeah, it's fine for us to say a city and a date. So all you're saying is it's offensive that I imposed work on you that you're not going to do. Correct. The important thing is you shouldn't be arguing over this love song.
Starting point is 01:10:11 No, I think we should. Listen to this. This is now, all-time high for me was ranked. Not super low because I love this movie so much. but so low enough I will top to
Starting point is 01:10:27 outside of a regular feeling of like this is just a softball song for a bond film beyond that it definitely was sort of just a
Starting point is 01:10:39 point of my life I heard that up so loud it just occurred to me I've had that up I had that up so loud I have a certain kind of adult I have it
Starting point is 01:10:46 it's on its own track I'll be fine and it just it just rubbed me the wrong yeah well look I think it's not
Starting point is 01:10:52 right for a Bond movie, but if you're going to go love song, this is the way to do it. You mean over the other songs? Well, so far, yes. Does he say the name of it? No, I suppose how could you? What was this about? Just like, do you think it's like... The lyrics are good.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Yeah, but what do you think it was like... That's a good sex. Do you think it was like, hey, we have acrobats in this movie? All time high. They're really high in the air. I think it was just anything to not call it octopus. We don't care what you do. Don't call it octopuses.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Octopussy's fun circus of love. What a good sign. I'm willing to run that a second time if we don't want to move on. No, I think we should move on. Okay. Andy. Yes. Number 11.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Thunderball. Tom Jones. Matt? Wait, isn't that time? No, it's not time. It is time. Oh, great. I got very excited.
Starting point is 01:11:54 We're going to name on. This is going to be an unpopular opinion for where it is on the list. But this might be a double discussion round. The world is not enough. Oh, double discussion round. We've never had anything like this. This is crazy. I'm coming in at number 11.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I like it. Don't get me wrong. But it just had to have a place in the list. You only live twice. Oh. But it's time to discuss. We'll start with. We will start with.
Starting point is 01:12:27 The first, which was, I forget already. Thunderball. Ugh. Oh, you say, ugh. I can't believe it took so long for us to talk about this song. I go back and forth with this one, too. Again, Thunderball is such a not favorite movie of mine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:44 This one is like another way to die where sometimes I kind of like it and sometimes I don't want to hear it. It's a quintessential bond sound. Because it really has the theme in it. It really does. I do wonder what the rules are. They sued the other people. They sued Tina Turner's people. But they didn't sue him?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Gladys Knights people. No, but those were the notes. Like the Goldfinger punch is a specific couple of notes. Puan, pooh, that's Goldfinger. But this is also John Barry. sampling what Eon to own, not sampling, but recording the Monti Norman one. But that hadn't been worked out at that time either, so it was fair game, I would assume.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Plus, Skyfall kind of does it. That E minor, like, da-na-na-na-na-na-na-da. So many of these bonds songs. This song is as slow and plotting as the movie. That's true. All I think about is bubbles, red bubbles, when I hear this song. I do like Tom Jones's vocal. I think he's doing a great job.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And what's your issue with it? You know, for me again, this is, again, pointing back to our love of these movies or dislike of these movies. I just so, I like this movie so little that when I hear it, I just think of how boring it is. I could cut 40 minutes out of Thunderball and make it great. Yeah, because it has some things I like. I like the villain. I like the girl. I love the villain.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Love the girl. Love the motorcycle. The underwater, the length of the underwater stuff is problematic, but the idea of it, they have all the little machines and they're shooting each other. That's all great. How long has it been since you've seen it? I think we watched it again.
Starting point is 01:14:35 It'll torture you. I know that when he goes into the, when he's swimming underwater and he goes into the tank and then the sharks swim up to him, that stayed with me every time I've been in a pool since. With him too, because they didn't tell him that there was going to be a shark there. What?
Starting point is 01:14:51 Yeah. That's crazy. Their reaction is real. He just hopped out of the pool? That's completely irresponsible. All right. I don't want to see that again because my memory is, that guy does not break stride when he gets out of the pool.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Well, that's probably a different cut, but he does, like, he really freaks out in the take when there's a shark. Oh, he does. Yeah. Okay. All right. We're going to let this song end and transition us in to. I mean,
Starting point is 01:15:22 Classic Bond horns. Yeah. So good. Ending with a flourish. Yeah, I mean, the production is spot. Now I'm hearing the whole song. I feel bad that I put it this low. But as we've said, it's all good from this point forward.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Now, this song was ranked pretty high for me. A lot of people really like this one. I like this song. I like this song. I like this song a lot. This was yours, this odd. I just said this one, yeah. I had this pretty low.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I had it at 19. That's super low. Way too low. These Brosons, man, it just feels a little bit lifeless. Like it's too much of a lifeless copy for me. I don't know. There's some originality lacking or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I think Shirley's doing a great job here. Is this produced by Vic? Who produced this? This is garbage. And David Arnold probably has something to do. They're so, just as producers, garbage. so amazing. I know it's very processed.
Starting point is 01:16:29 No, it's great. It's so good. I love it. It's somehow missing. What is it missing? Wait until we get to the crescendo. We're going to get to the crescendo here. I'm going to turn it up so you can all hear this at home.
Starting point is 01:16:42 But I think Shirley brings it in. You hear the guitar in there? This sounds to me a little bit like a copy of a bond song, not a bond song. I think a lot of them. You could say that about all of them, because they're all copies of Goldfinger. To a degree. A copy of another Bond song? No, like, some of these fall into the category of being immediately recognizable as Bond songs,
Starting point is 01:17:14 but standing in their own as a song. I don't think this one stands well enough on its own. It feels like a caricature or parody as opposed to... No point in living if you can't feel alive. It's good lyrics. The lyrics are good. Lyrics are good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I think this is a strong lyrical song. I know I'm in the minority on this one. I think most people really like this. This movie's a bummer. They're all bummers these brosons. All the brosons. I disagree. I think Tomorrow Never Dies.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Fantastic. So good. So good. Such a good James Bond. What's the best showpiece scene and Tomorrow Never Dies? It's the motorcycle chase. With the BMW and the helicopter blades. You hate it.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Yeah, that whole movie is a stinger too. Or maybe it's the BMW 750 IL in the parking garage that has all those remote control. Cool things happening. Yeah, it sure is. That's moronic. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Andy, get away. I remember seeing it. James Bond is not good anymore. That I, you're not telling me on that. On the motorcycle chase, I agree. But the remote control in the backseat of the car so that he doesn't get shot in the car.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah. Come on. I don't understand. He's got, he's clobled. Classically got bulletproof armored windows. He doesn't need to be in the back seat. It's so funny how I'm agreeing with you, and yet I can easily defend the view to a kill.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Car gets cut in half and he still drives it down. All right. We're driving it down to Le Chamsillise. All right. Number 10, we're breaking the top 10 here, guys. Here we are. Here we are. Our choices now is a song that we really like.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Wait, what are we up? Two. Number 10. Oh, no. We only have nine left. That's right. I'll go first. No, I only have nine left. No, I'll go last because mine's a discussion. I only have my left. I only live twice.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Okay, that's two. That's two for only live twice. Mine is for your eyes only. That's two for your eyes only. We're getting close to discussion town. But that means. It's time to discuss. I think we got to do more of a...
Starting point is 01:19:36 Oh, sorry. Oh, that's all right. I did it again. I really got to build up my skittles here. You had a huge, a huge buildup. I was thinking about my own stuff. Andy's new to podcasting. You might as well have been doing a drum roll.
Starting point is 01:19:53 I just inserted my thought right in there. Do the, do the, do the, kick it off again. Lead into it. that means it's time to talk about the song why do people not like the song is only made its way to so high on the list because Matt Goreley loves this movie so much
Starting point is 01:20:19 I do but I will go to bat for the song first of all lyrically I think it's top notch for a Bond song it reintroduces the character for the reboot the title you know my name it's kind of mysterious yeah I think it's Chris Cornell's
Starting point is 01:20:35 Doesn't help. That's, I think, the pumping point for me. I think he does it well, but I also think it's a really good melody. So maybe the production in the Cornell are a little too, like 2000 Ed Hardy wearing rock and roll or something. Yeah, that is the thing. That is exactly it. I think it's so tied to this movie that I love so much.
Starting point is 01:20:57 I'm blind to that. Here's where it's weird for me. I think it's weird that they gave this to a guy. I agree with that. I think it should have been, because of it. It's the reintroduction of James Bond. It's the kickoff. I feel like it should have been given to like...
Starting point is 01:21:11 I don't know further that I bet it is that moment in time when the character is being reintroduced and he was good that colors may be a little bit of your perspective. Maybe. You were so excited in that theater watching this moment. I'm sure. I'm sure that I totally recognize that. Who of the time
Starting point is 01:21:27 would have been better for this, do you guys think? This is 2005, right? Well, yeah, 2006 when the movie came out, but... Can I turn on my... Had, had, I mean, this song, let's say this song. Had White House? So Whitehouse had not had her moment yet.
Starting point is 01:21:45 No. I think it should be a woman, because this isn't Bond's voice. This song's written. I know. Yeah. But I think that that works. I think, but I just hearken back to, like, what's the most classic James Bond song of all time? And the answer is Goldfinger.
Starting point is 01:21:59 And there's, you know, no argument from anybody about that. It's like, Goldfinger is the gold standard of James Bond formula. Yeah. And for me, I feel like if you're going to do this brand new James Bond, but from the old, you know, going backwards and essentially telling his origin story, I think you have to give it to a lady. Would you give it to Shirley Bassie? Could she sing this song?
Starting point is 01:22:26 This is the thing. That is interfering like crazy. I'm sorry. That's okay. Just I'm apologizing to the listeners. Top artists of 2006. Yeah, I was going to see if I can help the song. Brittany Spears?
Starting point is 01:22:39 I think this song is good as it stands. I actually like, I don't own a single Chris Cornell album. Yeah, nor will you. He performs this song. Until Christmas. Really well. I wish. He performs this song so well.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah. He co-wrote it or wrote it. And I think this could be a lot more dated than it is. The strings and horns help. It's pretty. I'm just glad that I was able to get this one I held out long enough to get this one into the top ten discussions Without me this wouldn't be in the top ten
Starting point is 01:23:15 It's true You're single-andedly bringing down the rest of the podcast Or rising it up Bringing a cream to the top But you love this book You have to realize that Casino Rail Colors your opinion of this movie Possibly, of this song rather
Starting point is 01:23:31 Possibly Possibly. So you're not even Transparent in why you love this song It follows that opening sequence And this sequence, the title sequence The title sequence is great. The cards and the bullets This ending though, too, is great.
Starting point is 01:23:45 This one's saying is following that sequence, it would have been hard to go wrong with any song. Listen to this. This doesn't warm you up to this song a little bit? Madagascar. Oh, I thought you meant the animated movie. It's got grit, though, that a lot of the Bonson show had. Is this the hardest bond song maybe next to,
Starting point is 01:24:11 another way to die. Yeah. And I'm not saying this is a hard, hard song. No, it's fucking... It's dope. It gets you some serious street, cred. You're playing that when you're driving down the street? Where am I, you know my name heads at?
Starting point is 01:24:22 Hit me on Twitter. Don't hit him on Twitter, please. All right, we're on the number nine. You only live twice. Okay. From Russia with love. Triple discussion round. No.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Could it be? Because mine is the first mention of nobody does it better. Wow. I know that's low. Get out of your own house again. We'll talk about it later. This is ridiculous. I was certain that song would be much higher ranked for you.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Well, sometimes it is. But for now. These strings are the equivalent of me floating in a warm pool. I would like to see that video, even though. Listening to this song, floating in a pool, nothing will be better. Waiting for a pizza? I like this song. Here's my problem with it.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Every Bond song, even from before this movie, even Dr. No, feels ahead of its time. This one feels older than the Bond franchise. I think that's because they end up in Turkey. Maybe. I don't, I like the song. It's because it's Sinatra. Yeah. It feels like something that I've been playing.
Starting point is 01:25:39 But it sounds like Sinatra. It is. Well, this is Sinatra, this version. Yeah. Yeah. But Matt Monroe did the credits, the closing credits. Oh, I see. This feels like when I was a boy, this would have been on my grandma's radio.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Yeah. Which isn't bad, but. But that's what I feel about this movie, this from Rushwood Love movie. This for me is just so 60s, so just like the train fight. This movie is, again, this colors how much I love this song. But I feel like James Bond will never. be cooler than he was in this movie. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:26:22 You have something to say about Frank Sinatra? You prefer Frank Sinatra Jr. Well, he just passed, so I'm sorry. That was what I was going to say. How about Frank Stallone? Which version is on the radio? I think it's the Matt Monroe version. It's when he's Sylvia Trench gets a return in this movie.
Starting point is 01:26:43 He was going to have a steady gal. That would have been weird. Yeah. It would have been great. really? Yeah. Because he's going to be fucking around because he has to do it for the queen. That wouldn't have been great.
Starting point is 01:26:56 He would have been just a total rogue. Do you think he would have been either guilty? Or he would have been... No, he would have been... It would have been the same person. He would have been fucking whoever he fucked when he fucked them and gone home to a nice, steady Sylvia trench. And I think when he's out of town, Sylvia gets down.
Starting point is 01:27:12 When he's out of town, Sylvia gets down. I think they have an agreement. I see. Yeah. But she knows that this stuff's going on? Yeah. It's just a very evolved relationship. Very.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Who was the actress that played Sylvia Tritch? Couldn't tell you. She's good. Rosamine Pike? Eunice Grayson. Eunice Grayson. Is that real? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Wow. Rosen and Grayson, I can't remember. Rosamine Pike. What was our next one? Double discussion round. You only live twice. Now, speaking of strings. And guitar rave.
Starting point is 01:27:47 A double discussion round. Both Sinatra's. Right. Wow. Father and daughter. This is a great song. This, I feel like I'm floating slowly to earth, having jumped out of a plane to safety, into Japan.
Starting point is 01:28:08 This is the third choice of a song for the movie. They recorded two others. Uh-huh. So we've played them on this podcast before. I love this song. You know, part of why I like this, the song is Robbie Williams' sampling of it. I think you put Shirley Bassian on here, you got a home run.
Starting point is 01:28:31 You got a hard-to-beat all-time James Bond song. I think Nancy Sinatra's a little Cheryl Crowey for me on this, but... Oh, I can see that. Cheryl Crow is the mark of a bad singer now. No, not as a bad singer, but someone who's singing above her depth. Yeah. And evidently so, because they've said in documentaries that they piece this together for many takes, and she was very nervous that day
Starting point is 01:28:53 and had a hard time getting it done. How did she get placed for it? I think Boots was a huge hit. Probably the first of them going like who's our radio hit people. Sinatra name. It's very problematic. They should do.
Starting point is 01:29:10 I bet Harry. From this point forward, if nothing else, always be going with the quintessential person. I imagine what really happened is Harry Saltsman lost the deal, lost some sort of bet to Frank Sinatra. and in lieu of paying him the $300,000, he was like,
Starting point is 01:29:26 then you make Nancy do the song. It's such a simple little riff, just that little descending. It's like a little feather falling. Yes, that's why I said it. It was floating from a parachute. Yeah, it's great. I'm landing in Japan.
Starting point is 01:29:44 I love this song. It is a good song. I don't have a bad thing to say about this. This song is playing. now because I mentioned it so late. And that's how I feel about it. You brought this one up. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:29:55 When did you have this one, Andrew? See, I ate it at 10. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Boy, all I can tell you guys is right after, this is when the hits start coming. The hits are coming hard and fast here. I just want to say there are five songs that have not even been mentioned yet, and they are.
Starting point is 01:30:17 If you do a kill. Don't, no, no, no. Let's not spoil it. Okay. Let's let them go. I would like to know is what songs do we have now that have in the bottom of songs that have been mentioned that are at two right now. What's your question? Songs that have been mentioned where we're waiting for the third person.
Starting point is 01:30:38 There are only two of those. Okay. You're eyes only in the living daylights. Oh boy, oh boy. Oh, boy, oh boy. Boy, Matt, you're really putting the living daylights up there. That's your you know my name And I like that, Tom
Starting point is 01:30:57 That's your you know my name We are That's a much less worth You know my name If that's his you know my name Guys Save it for the discussion that's coming As soon as we start the next round
Starting point is 01:31:12 All right, number eight Oh boy Mine is diamonds are forever Oh And mine as diamonds are forever Guys, you have to touch tips. Just like James Bond might do in order to complete a mission. Living Daylights.
Starting point is 01:31:34 It is a double discussion round. Double discussion round. Double discussion round. I love this song. Now this is how you do a bond ballad. I don't disagree with you at all. And I will say that the reason that the reason that this was so low on my list compared to you guys was because I felt like Shirley,
Starting point is 01:32:00 I needed to spread my Shirley's out. You got to spread your Shirley's. I feel like you put too many Shirley's at the top. She gets a little top heavy. Yeah. That's understandable. Oh, that right there. That's a great.
Starting point is 01:32:14 You know what the subtext is, I don't know if it's in the lyrics, but I feel like the effective ones like this, that are sort of ballads, or seem like they're being sung from a lady that has been toyed with by Bond. Yeah, and in fact, I think Barry told her to imagine she's singing about a dick when she recorded this. A penis or? No, I'm not a private to talk to you. Interesting. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That's very interesting. Yeah. She's just... Seems like an off-color thing to say to someone before they go into a recording booth. Watch this little bass pause here Bih-oh-God, that's so good. Taking the bass line for a walk? This is early disco.
Starting point is 01:33:15 That, yeah, that was up. That Mills Rogers. Also the way the guitar is playing those triplets. The muted strings. I mean, we are now into songs that I just love. I love this song. It's got, it really changes It's like it goes from that little drumming section to just this swing
Starting point is 01:33:41 It's funny how classic is for the goofball movie The Ball movie I know it's the most disparate to the movie It is Such a bananas movie that I've seen Maybe like the third most of any James Bond movie I watch it pretty regular Yeah I'm on the rigged
Starting point is 01:34:02 I was there too Oh my God Yeah so if you guys haven't listened to that He talks about playing Mr. Kidd, and it was pretty fascinating. I haven't, and I'm going to listen to that. I went to his house in South Pasadena. Oh, my God. Is this a soapass boy?
Starting point is 01:34:15 Yep. Whose house is nicer? Well, he is very different. It was just, let's say, a lot of stuff. He's so polite. I love this, Matt Gourley. Discussion round, part two. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the vocal stylings of aha.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Oh my God, this makes me think of being a child With like headphones on And the production of its time will lead you to believe This like makes me think of like This is like what I would roll around in the backyard Pretending to be James Bond listening to So this must have been literally the afternoon The take on me was at the top of the charts
Starting point is 01:34:57 It wasn't going to do. Should we wait a couple of weeks? It was like, no. Two or three years later To the point that when this film came out, I even remember going, aha, they're still around as a kid. Maybe they were just bigger in Europe at the time. But I really like this song.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Crazy too. But those like, what do you call them? Simmons drums. Yep. I don't see it, Matt. I'm sorry. It's okay. My joy is just.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Myra's grooving his head off. I like this song. I wouldn't put it in the top ten, but... Fade away. Oh, listen to that. That's a bridge. No, it's... This song is immediately made better by what John Barry did to it, like adding these horns.
Starting point is 01:35:57 This is all... This is all viewed to a kill. This is so 80s. This is 80s. Bond. I love it. This is a crazy choice. It's down, down to the wire.
Starting point is 01:36:14 This is like if that That's exactly what it is. This is like if that thing and that We're not even talking. We're just listening to it. I also did you? A face back in the day. I had a lot of, did you?
Starting point is 01:36:33 Okay, that's comforting. I really did. I really did. They have a lot of things, troubling music. I recently went on a, on a YouTube. drill down of
Starting point is 01:36:43 of Ace of bass of bass, watching them performing at like Eurovision and such a cover of that. They were like, I just was like so fascinated by the men and the band. Yes. And just like, wow, this is you just came out of, you just
Starting point is 01:36:59 this is what you did with your life and it worked. Yeah. They both look like they should own breweries. Was they the producers? How did they get in there? Both, yeah. weren't they siblings? Wasn't it pairs of siblings?
Starting point is 01:37:16 Yeah. The girls were siblings. I think so, yeah. Yeah. But where were the guys also siblings? I don't know. There was some weird connections to Abba. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:25 It was like an Abba of its time. Yep. You don't have to listen to the whole thing, buddy. It's okay. I don't remember this breakdown. This isn't in the movie. No, they cut it out. They jump into...
Starting point is 01:37:35 What a bridge? This is a nothing ridge where they literally just took things away. They had no horns. This is like it just... Sacksophone. Lyrics. Yeah, but this is totally. Dirty sacks. Vue to Achille.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Woon, wah, w'w-w-Wan. Watered down Vue-W-O-Kill. Well, it's no mistake that we haven't talked about Vue to a Kill yet. That's true. Sorry, I keep saying. Oh, but we're about to. Let's move on to number seven. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:37:57 We're talking about number seven here. I'll say mine is view to a kill. That's one for View to a Kill. It's on the board. Mine is for your eyes on. That means we're having a discussion round. It is a discussion round. mine is the theme to Doctor Now.
Starting point is 01:38:16 That's number one for that. So that's just the James Bond theme. Yeah. Well, let's talk about it. This is one of those quintessential bond songs that somehow just doesn't do it for me. I don't know what it is. I will say this about this song and why it is so high on my list and why it was so high on probably Andy's list is I think this is the most earworm
Starting point is 01:38:41 of all James Bond songs. I recognize my part of what this song is me, not this song. It's just something doesn't appeal to me, but I could see why people love this song. This song gets into my head, and like for the rest of the day, I will not, when my brain goes idle,
Starting point is 01:38:59 it will start to have this in my head. Yeah, me too, but not always in a good way. There's a couple that stay with me that I like, but this one... I love that. That's very spy who love me. Yeah. Oh, here's a good way.
Starting point is 01:39:11 she comes. Right. I think this is, this is probably meaningful to me because this is the one after, after Spy You Love Me, right?
Starting point is 01:39:19 No, after Moonraker. After Moonraker, okay. So then I'm definitely firmly entrenched as a Bond fan at that point. And this one was
Starting point is 01:39:26 everywhere on the radio. Yes. It was more a radio and a commercial hit more than any of them, I think. Yeah. Of the time, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I love it. Pretty Sheen. Yeah, you can't argue. I mean, this is a classic. I just don't really. choose to put it on. Where did this rank on your list, man? This is 16.
Starting point is 01:39:54 That's pretty low. Yeah, low to the bottom of the middle. Yeah. I'm sorry, I have nothing to say about the song, except that I love it. That's the problem when we get to the good one. When we get to the good ones, we're just like, we're just like, no, we're going to listen to it.
Starting point is 01:40:11 We're going to hear it. This is great. In a string of, let's see, the, Moonraker? What came before Moonraker? Okay, so nobody does it better. Like, there was four movies in a row that were kind of lady ballads. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:32 That was really big in the late 70s and early 80s. So it goes, nobody does a better moonraker for your eyes only all-time high. Those are all kind of torch songs. Yeah. Maybe by then I kind of had it. Oh, no. I was ready to move on. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Back to the badass stuff. Except Rita Coolidge comes next. Was it Timothy Dalton that killed you? Or what? Was it Timothy Dalton that killed it for you? Or was it Pierce Brosnan? Oh, I like Timothy Dalton. No, but I mean like when you like sort of said to your old camp buddy James,
Starting point is 01:41:07 I don't know if we're going to be friends right now and walked about your life. Oh. Before you came back to him. It was Brasman. It was Brasman. That's when it was like my phase two James Bond. Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:18 What was your feeling on him? Dalton? Because Dalton in the first one, and I'm sure this must have been discussed in depth, but Dalton in the first one, it felt like they were going to do what they finally did with Casino Royale. It was like, oh, we're going to do the hard version, and then they immediately dispensed with that. Yeah. So what was your, did you? I think I was, I was, this is like, he came out in 87, so I was 14.
Starting point is 01:41:47 It didn't matter. I was just, I wanted some bond. Gotcha. I didn't question it. Yeah. I was so into it. And I think even at the time I knew down deep, those movies were a little lukewarm, but I was so hungry.
Starting point is 01:41:58 And then it just whetted my appetite, so when they got to brazen, I just wasn't. Were you hungry like the wolf or? Well, interesting. Segway. Moving on to number six. Well, this is the surprise for me because I didn't realize we were doing the instrumental for Monter Majesty Secret Service.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Okay. obsessed with the James Bond instrumental stuff. It's just my favorite thing. So that's your number six? That's my number six. On Hermannity's Secret Service. It's a shame that we probably aren't going to talk about that for a while. So this brings us to, I feel like we're going to get into a little bit of a disagreement here, Matt Goreley.
Starting point is 01:42:42 I've listed the man with the golden gun here. That's funny because that's where I have it. Oh, my goodness. I can't believe you put it that high because people regard this, including John Barry as one of the worst bond things. But it's so fun. But you haven't even mentioned it yet.
Starting point is 01:42:57 No, I have. It was at 12. Oh, you did? Yeah. Oh, we discussion rounded? We are. Oh, boy. Allow me to...
Starting point is 01:43:06 Thanks to Matt Gourley, Matt Meyer for agreeing on number six. I even kind of feel like I was... I feel like I was kind of... I backed off on my own choice because I felt like I would have put it higher, and I was like... Nope, who's going to want it right.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Oh, no. We love this song. I'm surprised we exactly agree. I thought you liked it more than I did. This one, like, these things change. We can do this next week and have a different list, but this one is the one that stays in my head, but I don't mind it. And the lyrics are bonkers.
Starting point is 01:43:38 Shot. Shut. Lulu. She must have been a timely pick. Oh, yeah. She's coming off of Two Sir with Love, right? Yeah, they're definitely going Shirley Bassie with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:50 But listen to that bassy trombone or whatever that is. Is this the most 70s James Bond theme? Oh. I think it is. Probably. I'd be interested to break down how many of the songs are, You Hurt Me, James, or you're touring with me, James. How many of them are...
Starting point is 01:44:10 The villain is so scary. The villain is unbeatable. Somebody out there do that. Categorize these. What would be the third? Would there be another category? third category is be careful out there James, James. I'll miss you. That's the third, I think that's the third category of like I'm James Bond. No, he said that one. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 01:44:28 No, I didn't. Oh, I thought you did. What were your three categories then? Well, I wonder if my first one was similar to yours, but it's different. One is I sort of, I feel like you're going to hurt me, James, and one of them is be careful, darling. Yeah. So it's, don't hurt me, be careful, darling. Now we're at two categories. I'm James Bond, I'm the best. Right. Three categories. And the fourth category is,
Starting point is 01:44:52 look out, that villain's crazy. Right. And I assume going along with, I'm James Bond, I'm the best, would be your James Bond, you're the best.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Nobody does it better. Well, we've got as many categories as Bond Song. Five categories of Bond songs. I think the last one, it's just one category. This is the song that famously replaced
Starting point is 01:45:13 the Alice Cooper version of Man with a Golden Gun for this film. Have you ever heard that one? No. Yeah, it's not very good. And with the golden gun. Oh, I love her voice crack in there.
Starting point is 01:45:30 I like that's the threat. He'll shoot anyone. With his golden gun. Sure. Also, great little touches like that. So good. Love it. This is just a taste of the Alice Cooper version.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Come on, I can't. This is like Rocky Horror Pictures. He was crazy. This was a James Bond song? It was, well, I think he was doing. doing it and then they heard it and went, uh, no. I would have loved to have seen his response. This is just, this is just the fucking Alice Cooper song.
Starting point is 01:46:18 No. Oh, there it gets it a little bit. Even the production. This is another way to die all over again. Yeah. It's also, you can tell just done with like four musicians. Yeah. I love how incongruous he seems with the instrumentals.
Starting point is 01:46:46 That's like the most vocally Alice Cooper ever was. Yeah. Who'd ever see? Oh, all right. Wow. I feel like you should have stuck with like a super fast version. Yeah, the usual general. So on to the top five.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Top five. One, two, three, four. Yes, I have five. Two songs remain unmentioned. We are, we are ready to go. All right. Who would like to go first? I just went first last time.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Five. We're up to five. Yeah. This is where I have nobody does it better. Okay. Interesting. For nobody does it. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:47:23 We're not going to hear about that one for a little while. My number five is. Number five. Number five. Now I'm flummocks. That's number five. I don't know what's happening. That's number five.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Well, you probably have the same reaction I just did to that for my number five, which is live and let die. Oh. Not as big a reaction as you think. So that is a no discussion round. I didn't think we'd have a non-discussion round. This is unbelievable. Number four. Number four for me is live and let die.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Number four for me is also live and let die. Whoa! Number four for you, Mr. McGoily. Is skyfall, which means we have a double discussion round. Oh, we have an embarrassment of riches. We were just in a drought round where there was no discussion. And now we have a. There are a bountiful round, but there are two discussions.
Starting point is 01:48:20 Double O discussion round. I'm very excited about this. I'm also very surprised that you guys put gold fingers so much higher than me. I haven't at number five. We're not talking about it yet, but I just feel like... Oh, this is Palm-Cartney and Wings. Nothing but good things to say about this song. It just happens to be behind the four that I like a little better.
Starting point is 01:48:44 This song would be the greatest song ever written. if it didn't have the reggae bridge. Which is Linda McCartney's contribution, right? You know, this may be a little low on my list. I think any other given day I might switch this with my number four, Skyfall. I think maybe this is, I should probably have this higher than Skyfall. Wait, we're on number four right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Yeah. So this is your number four. Oh, no, this is my number five. It's because I have a non-discussion round. Yeah. I love it. It's so good with the opening title, too, or so. Also,
Starting point is 01:49:20 What a great concert song he gave himself. I know. Fireworks. Just a hoot. But it has that wings thing where, like, the bridge and the course and the verse lyrically have no connection. Yeah. Like, what does it matter to you when you got a job?
Starting point is 01:49:35 I guess that's kind of Bondy, but the reggae style. No, that's very Bond. I think that. The reggae thing just throws me off completely. Falcon. Hello. Hello, Falcon. Oh, it's a James Bond sign.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Goodbye, Falcon. Enjoy Murder House. What did he have on his coat of arms? Who? Besides, the world is not enough. Isn't it just the world? Bond family tree. Isn't it like four foxes?
Starting point is 01:50:02 Oh, I don't know. And a... I would hope it was a stag. Blue Knight. Oh, yes. Is it, though? Yes, it is. Really?
Starting point is 01:50:11 Oh, good. We're not even talking about this one, because there's nothing to say it other than... It's great. It just is so amazing. And they never really did me. like this and any other bond theme. No, this one feels very original.
Starting point is 01:50:24 This is what I'm talking about here. This is the originality mixed with sounds like a bond song. Exactly. That's the pinnacle. Is this the last time that's happened? I would argue no. United. And you cannot,
Starting point is 01:50:40 you cannot convince me, by the way, that that's not John Lennon doing backing vocals. Does it sound like him? It does sound like him, you're right. It sounds like him. I feel like it's the greatest secret. I'm sure. It's wicks wibbly or whatever's in wings. Have you read Man on the Run?
Starting point is 01:50:59 No. The Paul McCartney biography that like picks up the day the Beatles broke up. No. And like covers wings. That sounds amazing. 100% recommended. I'm into that because I love wings. 100% recommended to you.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Love wings. Oh, you'll find more out about them than you ever wanted to know. I'm in. So many different. What a journey this song is. Yeah, it really is. Different styles. Do you feel like he took over Abbey Road Studios for like a month to make this song?
Starting point is 01:51:25 Maybe. Or it's produced by George Martin, so they probably did it a day. Yeah. And they also probably knew, like, this is it. Like, this is going to be, I mean, it's not going to be where we make our mark, but it's going to be like, this is a bond theme. And that's the kind of thing that kind of bugs me about some of the other songs is I feel like people don't really always, the performers or the songwriters don't always.
Starting point is 01:51:52 kind of take that mantle as like, this is something that's going to be eternal, like, whatever the rest of my career is. Yeah, you're right. Like, how I do this song is like bigger than how I do my Christmas song. It needs timeless production. Right. I don't always give it that. That's true.
Starting point is 01:52:10 But you know who did? That's an interesting point. Who? Adele with Skyfall. Oh. Very timeless. I think she's smart with this one. The melody, everything. It's pretty simple to this song. this movie's enjoyable.
Starting point is 01:52:27 This one's growing on me a lot more. Where Spector is waning. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think if we got another movie post-Spector that had Daniel Craig in it that featured James Bond, that Spector would grow on us? No. I think there's like, I think the taste in my mouth is the possibility that it might be Daniel Craig's swan song.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I think it's, I don't think it's going to age well and I think like we should. said quantum of solace is going to age better. What did you guys... What hit you so off about Spector? We loved it at the time. And now you've realized. And now we're just sort of like, well, it's going back to like, I haven't rewashed it since we talked about it last time.
Starting point is 01:53:11 And Matt has, and he said, it's not holding up as good as I thought. And the fact that I haven't bothered watching it again also is like a hint. You know what I do is I put on pieces of it, like on an airplane or something. Yeah. But I never really sit down to watch the whole movie because when I think about it, I go, oh, I got to get through all those. Right. Lulls and, yeah. A lot of lulls.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Yeah. This is this, though. Come on. Whoever's Mike in those drums. Doing a great job. I know. She should do another one. I wish she would vastly the shit out of this franchise.
Starting point is 01:53:52 I remember when this came out. Yeah. And I heard it and I went, I don't think I liked this because it felt like I had already heard it a million times. But then I realized that. That's just how good it was. Like, this is how you do a bond song without copying. Like, this seems more bond song. It seems like this has been around since the 60s or something.
Starting point is 01:54:12 Also, she's working the word skyfall into the song like nobody's business. Yeah. So A, you get points for that. It's a nonsense word. I think she's blessed with having Adele's voice to be able to sell that. Boy, Adele. It doesn't really work. It doesn't have heard that the visuals for this are so good.
Starting point is 01:54:31 So good. So good. I almost had... And who is this... What point of view is this song? You'll never have my heart. It's James Bond. It's Don't Heart Me James.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Is it a Don't Heart me James? No, maybe. You'll never have my heart. It's not James. I think it's more like, don't hurt us. We help you, James. Is it M? I wonder.
Starting point is 01:54:57 I think maybe a little. I almost had the guy that does the visuals, Daniel Climman, on I was there too and I would love to talk to him. Why couldn't you see the deal? He wasn't in the States. He left before we could make it happen. What the fuck? You can't fly over there? I'm on it. We'll write it out. We'll do it right off.
Starting point is 01:55:15 We should do with James Bonding live in London. We can't at the London podcast next festival next year. That would crush. Our listenership over and across the pond is huge. Is it? Yeah. It's only appropriate. Do you think we've got a lot a couple of yanks over there talk about their franchise? That's a great question. It's a popular.
Starting point is 01:55:32 What if we had a British gala fella on there to balance it out? That's true. They are garbage people. You guys just lost your day. Wait, what do you mean? I don't understand. We're fucking angle files. Look at us.
Starting point is 01:55:48 If you saw that in the room we were sitting in. There's plaid on the walls, guys. Plad wallpaper. And there's stained oak. Yeah Listen to that I might have to watch this movie after you guys leave I don't disagree
Starting point is 01:56:12 I know it's unpopular Best First Day of My Life Seeing this movie That was With Matt Goreley That's right That's right Amazing
Starting point is 01:56:28 That's where you met Dory No But it is where I met Matt This is like crescendo too Yeah, she's not giving up. No. She doesn't want to have to go. So you guys just came out of Skyfall and you were like, that was...
Starting point is 01:56:47 We'd both seen it, though. Yeah. We just hadn't seen it together. I'm not as much on the Skyfall train. It's maybe a discussion for another time. No, here's the deal, though. Anytime a James Bond movie comes out, Matt and I cherish the moment, and we see it multiple times in cinema.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Yeah. Yeah. Well, number three. guys it's time for number three what do we got well I struggled with word put it a lot
Starting point is 01:57:18 because it's I think such an example of the things we've been talking about but view to kill that's terrible you do kill interesting guess what guys we're going to talk about a view to a kill next
Starting point is 01:57:34 it is a discussion around for view to kill however I will say now with more That's two for Goldfinger. Ooh. View to a kill. Why do we like this so much? Well, it's different.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Duran Duran somehow. I mean, we're talking about the synth. We described how we don't like the synth on a previous track, but it works on this. Why does this work? The aesthetic of the time and made and elevated the Bond Sonic. I think you're right about that. I think it's just a matter of like, it's so of the time.
Starting point is 01:58:15 You know, we're talking about timeless productions of James Bond, and we're not doing, I don't know how to work your curtain. You'll do it. You keep talking. I just was, we're talking about timeless productions, and this is so not timeless, this is so 1986. And yet it, it's still, almost like a bullet, if you will. Like, it's still so good.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Oh, my God. This is amazing. Matt's curtains are, you can go up, or down with them. You can put them down and then raise the curtain from the bottom. That's great.
Starting point is 01:58:50 So if you want to jerk off from a crouch position, you could have it so you can... You're looking out at the neighbors. That's a fantastic... Listening to All the Time High by Rita Coole. Oh, Rita.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Oh, Rita. Oh. It's interesting. Well, it's top of top five fond themes to. To jerk off to? This has got to be number two. I've just said my number one.
Starting point is 01:59:16 This one wasn't as high for me, I think, because it does feel slightly more Durandran than Bonn. However, I love it. I love it. So it's a great song. They work independent of anything. They work the title of, they work a very hard title into the song. Yeah. Bonus point.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Yes. These production hits. This song is so good. Yeah. Now these opening titles are hilarious because they're all like neon black light. Yeah. Skiing, like neon lipstick and stuff. It really, when you watch it with the titles, it fills way more 80s.
Starting point is 01:59:55 I'd love to hear like a contemporary version of this song without the 80s mix and see how that sounds. Oh. It'd be interesting. Can you do that, Chris Cornell? Can you do that for us? This song makes me happy every time I hear it. Me too. It just thrills me in a way that few songs do,
Starting point is 02:00:15 and it's fun to sing very loudly to in your car. Yeah. Let me ask this question. Are there any other up-tempo bond songs? Living Daylights? Uh-huh. Man with the Golden Gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Yeah. But this is the fastest, certainly. Yeah, well, I feel like the Jack White one's fast as well. I feel like Jack White one's slower, but maybe I'm wrong. Whatever the case, so fun, catchy, and yet still drenched in Cool Spy, Sonic. Cool Spy. I'm so happy that we're doing this again. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 02:01:05 It feels right. It feels right. Let's the three of us go to the river. All right. We're going to dance into the fire, I think. Oh, yeah. All right, we're on to number two. Number two.
Starting point is 02:01:18 And everything's been mentioned at this point. It's just a matter of how this is going to come down. All right. Wait, how is this possible that we're on to number two, but we still have three songs, four songs that have not been talking about. I see. This is why I said you remarked it earlier. No, there's four combinations of two.
Starting point is 02:01:36 It's a fascinating math question. There's four combinations of two. But we're... Watch, watch. It's going to work itself out. It'll work itself out. Okay. What's your number two, guys? My number two is, Honor Majesty's Secret Service.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Andrew? Goldfinger. And mine is the James Bond theme from Doctor Now. Oh my God, that's interesting how we just said three different songs. Watch the math. It's real. I'm real superior about this. I feel like I'm in M's office.
Starting point is 02:02:17 No, I think we completely missed one. I'm just trying to cover us. We'll see. But it's time to talk about Goldfinger. What can be said, other than you play that horn section, and everyone knows it's the most classic of the James Bond themes, I think. It's the world record, right? It's the one to be.
Starting point is 02:02:35 It's incredible. It's so sparse when it's not blaring, too. Yeah. I feel like... This is at the... This song right now is playing at the perfect level on my headphones that it sounds like we're doing an NPR piece about Shirley Bassy. Might as well.
Starting point is 02:02:54 A cold finger. I mean, okay, this is a... Lookout, buddy. This villain is Danger Mouse. It's also the first time with the movie, with the song, where everything just kind of clicked. I think I read a thing where John Barry even was like... writing this song kind of going, this is what I think this should all be, this kind of cool brass and
Starting point is 02:03:18 like, like, flicking guitar. Such a tone setter, like, such a character setter. And basically what you're saying in terms of the badass villain aspect of it. It's like, what a bold choice for it to be about the villain and not the hero. Here's what's interesting about this movie. Everything in this, every aspect of this movie, the girls. the cars, the gadget, the villain, the locations,
Starting point is 02:03:46 is on point. My least favorite thing about this movie is James Bond's character. Why? He's always two steps behind. Yeah, he's not super active. He's two steps behind. That's a valid point? No, no, that part is like
Starting point is 02:04:06 cool and hip, Trump Pence. Which thing? The rampant massageny. This film's specifically. I mean, it's... Well, see, you've set me out badly to say, this is my favorite model.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Well, this is an infamous episode of our podcast as well. Oh, yes. This is the one of most asked that we redo, so maybe we will at some point. Oh, please invite me back. I don't know, Andy.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Especially if you go to London so I can antagonize all the English with you. No, I love this film, though. The song's incredible. I almost don't know what to say about. This is more misogynistic than the other ones? Has that been... that was addressed in your...
Starting point is 02:04:42 I mean, this one, especially because he's, like, turning a lesbian. Forcibly. Forcibly. Forcibly. By beating her up in a barn. The Queen's rape. It was...
Starting point is 02:04:56 It wasn't even date rape. They were tumbling. It was a series of tumbles. Judo flips that caused her to renounce her lesbianism. Right. Let's talk about this. Pussy galore. Although it hasn't been as...
Starting point is 02:05:08 It wasn't as established in the movie. Right. Pretty clear, I think, though. Other than the style of dress of... Yeah, she wore pants. I mean, come on. I guess I would say, let's talk about this song, but I honestly don't know that there's that much to say. I am surprised that this one is coming in behind as a group.
Starting point is 02:05:29 What's coming before it. Coming behind is a group what's coming before it. This is an interesting thing. Oh, because you have it so low. Yeah. You have it. We just have it too low. We still have three songs left to talk about.
Starting point is 02:05:45 How are we going to do that? Oh, we're all going to fill in the third hole, right? Does every song have two? Yeah, that's right. So we won't have a clear winner, but these three are coming in. So you're telling me that the final discussion round is going to be a three-peat. Oh, you better put it. Oh, you are right.
Starting point is 02:06:01 This is exciting. You are right. Tell your sister, you are right. Okay, so what we've got here is a three-way tie. I don't know how this system works, but it's. You know what? This is a fucking satisfying system for me. We should know.
Starting point is 02:06:16 We should each say ours then. My favorite is nobody does it better. Okay. From the spy who love me. So let's stop and talk about that now. Okay. This song is so fucking good at just being a song. I think that's my problem with it.
Starting point is 02:06:40 And I don't have a big problem with it. love it. It's that this is a better song, but it's not a hundred percent bond for me. This is, uh... I love it though. Hamlish, Harry Hamlish? Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:53 Marvin Hamleth. Sorry, Marvin Hamlish. You're thinking of Harry Hamlet. I am indeed, and I wish Harry Hamlin sign fucking moonlit as an amazing musical composer. I can't believe you have this above
Starting point is 02:07:06 Goldfinger. And, uh, I just do because I love it. Yeah. Somehow you found me. Now, hear me out. I love this song. But this is not that far off from Rita Coolidge's all time high. I disagree.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Here it is, here it is, here it is. Seeing the violin. The spy who love me. Yeah, it's great. She name checks the song, in the song, and it sounds fucking perfect. Yeah, I mean, you don't have to sell me. I love this thing. Carly Simon's great.
Starting point is 02:07:41 It's, uh, it does, uh, the strength of it. I will also argue is that it does that thing of taking Carly Simon and infusing it with James Vaughn. Yeah. So I think in that way it's successful as James Bond theme. It's not a typical James Bond. No, even at the time, I think people were a little thrown by it. But the nobody does it better to me is as a lyric, something that I think was not really addressed in as effective. of like, yeah, that's what's great about James Vaugh.
Starting point is 02:08:16 I was forgetting her name, but it's Carol Bayer-Sager, who was the co-writer of this song. How she's learned to do. This song, I mean, it's part of it's Carly Simon's vocal, part of it's just the string, the constant strings in the background. I mean, it is just for me this song is. I can't quarrel with this song. This is my favorite song. This is your, so this is your number one bond song.
Starting point is 02:08:46 This is my number one bond song. Wow. Oh, I love it. I just want to like, I just want to be in that movie now. Oh, listen to her, hit it. I love these horns. Yes. Yeah, that's string.
Starting point is 02:09:07 That's strings. Those are strings. Oh, are they? Yep. Yeah, those are strings. The horns do come, though. Oh, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 02:09:15 Yeah, right there. And she's doubling her own vocal track there? She's singing, she's responding, calling response. Oh, so good. There they are. This is the most delighted I've been by a song in a long time. It's really pleasant. It'd be great if you could fool the world
Starting point is 02:09:52 into having this be your theme when you came out on talk shows. All right. I want to go next because I think we should end on yours. Okay. Just to do the franchise, it's due. Mine is the theme to On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Oh, my God. I love the main bond theme, but there's something about this and the instrument choice,
Starting point is 02:10:15 the synths and the bass and the French horns. This is a three-way tie for first. Yeah. Someone online, please, you could compile our list based in the order in which we talked about each song, and that's our list. Or, oh, fair enough. Yeah, or, I mean, certain ones, like, they could average our scores. No, I think it should be just the point that we talked about them.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Oh, right. The point that by the time all three, that is the average. Oh, yeah. So do that. What year was this? 68? Yeah. So that's, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:10:52 I think that's why this is so, it's such a complete, uh, example of all the different styles. Like, this is sort of the action-y kind of moments, and then you have the hard opening. It's hard not to think of someone skiing. 100%. Yeah. We're being chased in speedboats. Oh, hey, you heard, we heard her.
Starting point is 02:11:18 I can get it. It just, it's, oh my God, it sounds like, it sounds like we're just, Flofeld's cat. It sounds like that's what's happening here. That is going to weird out somebody who normally doesn't hear their cat when they're listening to podcasts. You tell me when you wanted to save me out.
Starting point is 02:11:45 Hang on, I'll try to get it on the beat. What, do? Oh, there will go. You got it. You got it. Countdown, like, 3, 2, 1, and I'll get it to you on the 0. Okay, 3, 2, 1. Oh, wait, see, see you go.
Starting point is 02:12:03 Try it one more time. Three, two, one. It sounds abusive, but you're just petting her. Look at this. It's just like vibes or something. It's a xylophone or vibes in there or something that's amazing. Well, I think what I like so much about the song is how versatile it is in the score of the film. Yeah. And it's throughout the film and it's a great, it's such a great, it's a great story.
Starting point is 02:12:31 It's a great movie. I watched this movie the other day. How's it all? that. Good. Is it a Christmas movie? Yeah, it is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Yeah. That was, good time, man. Nailed it. She knows what she's doing. Nailed it. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, the number one James Bond
Starting point is 02:12:59 song here for James Bonding, and I think appropriately so. I mean, from Doctor No. Perfection. I mean, it really is. Can't argue with that. Even though it was written
Starting point is 02:13:12 for a musical about India. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah. That's why you have that. It's about a guy with a horrible sneeze. What? This is a song written with like sitar about a guy who has a sneezing problem.
Starting point is 02:13:31 The House of Mr. Bezwez. This melody was written by Monty Norman and then he used it for this, sped it up. And that's where they get into their big dispute is like, what did John Barry do? He sped it up and put this orchestration to it and made it cool. But ultimately, Monty Norman got the right. rights to it. Wow. But you can hear John Barry all over this thing.
Starting point is 02:13:53 Yep. They should have split the rights. There is no, you know, it's tough between Goldfinger and this. That was the big choice for me at the end, obviously, as I think it would be. But there's nothing. This is everything. This is Sonic James Bond. There is nothing.
Starting point is 02:14:13 You don't think of Dr. No when you hear this. You think of James Bond. Right. it's used in all the films. Well, that's because they were smart to do that, to keep bringing it back. I don't ski anymore, but there's never been a point that I have skied in my life, that I've not at some point hummed this to myself. I am a sad person.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Vic Flick on guitar. That's something you told me on the drive here. That guy, so he does get his due? Because I've never heard that before. Vic Flick was a session guitarist in London who played on a ton of stuff. he plays all the instrumental guitar on the hard days night soundtrack too yeah on the score of the hard days night not on any of the Beatles tracks but Vic Flick is like the best do you hear that I did hear that it's a bird crashing into the window
Starting point is 02:15:03 because Amanda put a like a lucite bird feeder on the window so they just so cruel well they barely ever do they usually just sit there and eat it happily but sometimes they're like they don't know how to handle it um that I got to tell you I can't believe we got through everything. What a delightful series of songs. But we're not entirely done. Yes, we should mention some of our other favorites.
Starting point is 02:15:34 Like the theme to never say never again. I have that on my list. I tried to put on his list. I put my, I put that. And Matt also, what? I put that between 22 and 23, between writings on the wall and tomorrow never dies. Ah, I see. I put mine 22 to.
Starting point is 02:15:52 first never see ever again. So it's a bad. Irritating. It's a bad recording. I can't even place it. I couldn't even tell you. Never. Never. Oh, now I can.
Starting point is 02:16:04 Never. Never say never again. Yeah. So. So first thought. That one's a little earwormy. Earwolfy. Yeah, without ten seconds on it.
Starting point is 02:16:17 That was a little earwolfy. You know. This was an alternate never say never. ever again. Tell me if you think this would have been better. Anyone known? Phyllis Hyman. Unfortunately. I mean, they're really going for that same feel.
Starting point is 02:16:34 Yeah. Definitely better than the other one. Yeah, and I think when you hear the hook. Oh, hello. Yeah. Someone at the door. It has that synthy. Yeah. That's like 1984 Van Halen's synth in there.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Yeah. Come on in. seat song. You need some coffee? Definitely better than the other one. Yeah. Still somewhat forgettable. Also, we should mention listeners.
Starting point is 02:17:05 You're getting just the left channel of the stereo feed. Yeah, that is true. So if you want to hear the full Sonic Spectrum, visit your local library. Visit your local bond friends iTunes library. So where would you guys put, we have all the time in the world, the Herb Alpert Casino Royale? Well, we have all the time in the world. I originally listed in my list, and I believe I placed that at, like, 14.
Starting point is 02:17:36 I have it at between 7 and 8. Uh-huh, very high, huh? It doesn't feel very bonding at all. Can you play that one now? Yeah. I don't know that I... I think because it feels so unbondy, that's why it didn't make it very as high as it could have on the list.
Starting point is 02:17:53 Because I do like... I like the movie. I like the score. I like Louis Armstrong. It doesn't feel like a Bond song at all. No. But it's so good. That movie's just such an oddity that it somehow fits in the movie, but not the franchise. This is what I mean.
Starting point is 02:18:23 This is obviously, you know, you can't knock Louis Armstrong, but this is not him bringing the franchise to him or him going to the franchise. I'm not sure he's even aware of the franchise. I guess I put that Herb Alpert Casino Royale. somewhere around 20 or something. I don't love it. That Tito point-de-a-old. T-W-A-1. T-Wan-A-Bress, yeah. I mean, it's pleasant for sure.
Starting point is 02:19:03 I love the way it ends with the horns at the end. The time. The world. There's one last thing we should mention, because this has come out since we last talked. this is interesting. This is some new information. Wait, how do I get this through?
Starting point is 02:19:39 A new thing we have to talk about. Not sure how I put this on these speakers. Do you have, what is it, an iPhone 7? You know what, that thing doesn't work well. Okay. I got to tell you that much. I'll just put it up to the... Yeah, I was going to say, where is that one?
Starting point is 02:19:59 Go ahead, you can pick it up and pull it over to you because I just turn all the volume all the way down on it, so you can handle that mic. Guys, we're going to hear something. This is very, very long episode, but still not our longest episode yet. No. Sure.
Starting point is 02:20:24 Oh, my God. Matt, you're embarrassing us. Our listeners have come to expect this exact level of professionalism. This is the, uh, we just, we just sit out the pauses. Sit them out? What do you mean? Don't cut them out? You don't cut them out?
Starting point is 02:20:38 No. Kids love pauses. They can't get enough pauses. Dude, is that true? Yeah, it gives them time to do something else. I'd like to see a hashtag on that and see if the gets... Hashtag I love pauses. Or hashtag I don't love pauses.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Go ahead in at Andrew Secunda and send him the hashtag I love pauses. Paws is yes. Pauses no. Matt and I've been talking about doing a podcast. We are doing a podcast coming out next year. Okay. Early next year. It's called Star Trek, The Next Conversation.
Starting point is 02:21:13 Really a great name. Andy thought of it. I said, sure, that's a good name. And then I said, are you humoring me? And I said, no, it's actually a great name. What's the name? Star Trek, the next conversation? See?
Starting point is 02:21:26 Got a chuckle. It got the requisite tiny chuckle. I'll forgive the quality on this, but this is the radio head version, the Rejected Specter theme song. Do you think it was like just a letter from Michael J. Wilson? I don't know how we're really sorry. What? This sounds not like that.
Starting point is 02:21:55 This sounds just like Spector. This sounds a lot like that theme. I mean, they're doing creep here, clearly. He went on YouTube. He made a classic YouTube mistake. Classic YouTube mistake of thinking of their little thumbnail is going to tell you everything you need to know about that video, and then nothing.
Starting point is 02:22:16 It didn't happen. Well, I believe we've played it before. Have we? Yeah. I think we played it in November. What am I doing? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:22:26 I thought you were just having a great time with yourself. Well, then let's wrap it up. Oh, boy. It felt good to get in again and give her a spin before we put her back into mothball. The old asked it, Martin. It's really a fun thing. Andy, do you have anything to promote besides Star Trek the next conversation coming next year?
Starting point is 02:22:51 While you're doing it really quickly, I'm going to underscore that with a little Golden Eye theme song from Ace of Bass for years. It's called the Juvenile, but it would have been called Golden Eye. Tell us what you're up to. Andrew, what are you up? You know, I'm... We can talk about maybe people come check out The Swarm. Swarm, once a month, every first Saturday of the month that Upright Sists. Citizens Brigade Sunset Theater at 9 p.m.
Starting point is 02:23:24 That's some great improv. You got yourself, your Andy Daly's, your Sean Conroy's, your Andrews, your Billy Merritt, your guest improviser. It's a home run. It's a good time. Or I'm every Friday at 9.30, the first show in the 9.30th, a slot at UCB Franklin with soundtrack. Soundtrack, great show.
Starting point is 02:23:49 And that's got Jason Manzook. Brian Husky, Brian Gallivan, Mary Holland, Gene Valipe. I saw Jason pop up in Gilmore Girls a year in the life. Nice. I was like, nice work, Jason. Way to be in that thing I love. And at Andrew Secunda on Instagram. There you go.
Starting point is 02:24:10 You're trying to boost your Instagram followers. That's fascinating. And I know why. But we'll never tell. Matt Goreley, what do you have to promote? You know, I don't know that I have a whole lot coming up. Just, you know, the regular podcast, I was there too. We got a good Mark Marin episode coming up.
Starting point is 02:24:29 And Star Wars Holiday Special. What was Mark also in? Almost Famous. Sure, yeah. And... What are you doing with the Star Wars Holiday Special? Doing its podcast I do called I Was There, too. I talked to someone who had either a small part or were there on set that can tell the real stories.
Starting point is 02:24:45 Uh-huh. Got someone from that. You might really enjoy... Which character? It's not a character. Oh. someone on the crew that was there the whole time. You hear, I've heard, I've heard legends of all the Coke that everyone was doing.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Yeah, we talk about that a little bit. Exciting. I can't wait. You might enjoy the Hanukkah episode of the Goldbergs. It's called Hanukkah Solo. Oh. Where Adam discovers, you know, it's coming out, and I think it airs in two weeks. But Adam sees the Star Wars holiday special.
Starting point is 02:25:15 A lot of Star Wars specific. It realizes, Matthew and myself in there. Realizes, hang on. This might not be the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. I love it. What's happening in life? Yeah. Watch the Goldberg's Checkup at this podcast.
Starting point is 02:25:30 For me, it's just go listen to my wife and I started a podcast called Matt and Dory's Excellent Adventure, where we talk about us going through IVF. And good news, bad news, there's going to be a lot more episodes. And also, I will say this now. There's a look for some, look for some more ways to get James Bonding next year, early next year. We talked about it here today, and it sounds like it's a fair chance that it might happen and even at a more consistent way. Yeah. So be on the lookout for that, guys.
Starting point is 02:26:07 We know you love the podcast. We love doing it. And I'm glad that we finally were like, fuck it. It just proves that we'll always be back again. James Bonding will return. Yes. The bad signal goes off. And we respond.
Starting point is 02:26:20 that's it because james bonding will oh my god i completely forgot how we end this podcast james bonding will return and we'll find out hey this is arnie knee camp from the improv fantasy podcast hello from the magic tavern i fell through a dimensional portal behind a burger king in chicago into the magical land of foon and i started a podcast season three has just begun with a brand new adventure to defeat the dark lord If you're a new listener or you've fallen behind season three is a great jumping on point.
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