James Bonding - The Spy Who Loved Me with James Bladon

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

Guest favorite James Bladon joins the boys to talk Roger Moore's most acclaimed outing as Bond, as well as to discuss a million other wonderful things. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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It's like, do you see an old woman or a young woman? A white dress or a blue dress? Yanni the musician or Laurel the Hardy. Yanny. Guess what? This podcast wasn't even recorded at the point where that was popular. Speaking of it, Yanny, guess who was like really being aggressively cutty in the gym the other day

when I was working out with my trainer. You mean cutting into the line? Yeah, like just jumping on a machine. Was it Yanni? No, close. It was John Tesh. Very close. John Tesh was. It was real close. Wow, that's about as close as you can get next to maybe Kenny G. Well, that's why you made me think of it.

I have to say, John Tesh, he's in pretty good shape. Good for him. But he's cutting in line? He was like just hopping on the machine and doing like things that looked like they were going to hurt his back. He also had an ankle brace on. Like a, wait. Like a, oh, I'm thinking of an ankle bracelet like he's under house arrest. He's under gym arrest.

He's probably rolled his ankle. You know, the man's six foot five, probably. Wow. Yeah. I had to then spend 10 minutes explaining to my trainer who John Tesh was. Your trainer didn't know who John Tesh was. Did not. It's the problem with these 20-some-odd-year-old people.

They're not living their best lives. But that's not why you called listeners. Why you called is to hear three of us peoples talk about the spy who love me. This is James Bonning. I'm Matt. I'm also Matt. And today, back by popular demand,

is a guest favorite, James Jimmy Blades Bladen. I'm a guest favorite. And a host favorite. You're a host favorite. The popular demand was me saying, I feel like we need James back on. Really? So, uh, blame me when he sucks again.

What? Let me think of something to say to that. Oh no This is this is done I'm so sorry Turn your phone off You're disrespecting our guest favorite guest Guys guys

So this I don't know if you know This is my fourth time I'm a fourth timer now Four Pete four time Four time four time So you've done octopussy Octopussy Cold opens

Cold opens The The Star Wars Crossover episode And then this And now this Thank you for the jacket By the way

You're welcome At the four-timers jacket Lifetime membership. Thank you. You come back a fifth time, you'll get sleeves. Yeah, I'm happy the way this is fitting right now. That shows off my John Pesh figure. And you even typed your notes up.

I did. Wow. I mean, yeah. Are you hand-ready? Were you taking them on the phone and then printed that? No. Oh, okay. I just typed them right in.

If I know you, you watched it in your office and sat at your desktop. Yep, that's great. That's exactly right. I got to say, I was excited about this because this movie, for me, really kind of holds a special place. Because this was 1976. I was a young man. And I don't think I saw this in the theater. I have kind of a fuzzy memory of it.

But I may have seen it on cable. But I saw it a lot. It's one of the first movies that I remember seeing a lot, you know, because of, so for me, this is a very, I don't, I'm kind of tainted in my view of. I'm very biased about it because, you know, I have that. kind of reminiscent. Just love. That sounds exactly like our octopussy and view to a kill experience, why we have such a fondness for that. Because I'm a little older than you too.

Yeah. But yeah, that's how it is for me. So this movie, I can see faults in it, but I love it. You know, it's very entertaining. I don't think you're alone. I think most people regard this as the highest Roger Moore film and one of the higher James Bond films. I feel like I'm in the minority for not really loving this movie. Let me buckle everyone up who's listening.

I might be with me. Matt Gourley on this. Where were you last time? You know, it's, I find, I see why everyone thinks it's the best Roger Moore movie. I see that. He himself is his favorite. Yeah, he, yeah. It's the most, like, down the middle, solid of all of his films, right?

Exactly what it is. Me too, but that's exactly. You're saying too solid? Well, in a way. It's like, like, just, I'm going to use a sports analogy, guys. Just throwing it over the light. Just real slow. Green monster.

And it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, just, it does nothing interesting. Like, I like movies, I like James Bond movies that have, um, ridiculous stupidity in them. Mm-hmm. And I like ones that have amazing set pieces. And I feel like this movie has neither of those things. Really? Yeah.

You don't count the James Bond stage. I mean, it's very impressive. Yeah. Adam did some great work over there. Yeah. Let me, let me get in on that too, because that stage is incredible. And same thing with the You Only Live Twice Volcano. But I do find myself, it feels repetitive, like there's kind of just these wave of attacks or something.

Although I got to hand it to him for a real squib work there. Yeah. I mean, I would say the only thing about that scene is they were so proud of the set. Yeah. That I think it got used too much. It's the underwater thunderball curse. Right. Yeah.

So you spend a lot of time just taking it in. I'm not here to shit talk this movie. I still enjoy it. It's just a little bit down the middle for me. Okay. Yeah. And there's lots to love. I love it.

But I say you champion this thing all the way through. I will. Yeah, I will not be stopped or even slowed down. I love it. I love it. I love it. Although, like, you know, I find, as I say, I can find faults in it, definitely. Yeah.

You know. Well, there's a huge fault in it, which we'll get into once the plot starts rolling along. But other than that, I really don't find that many faults in it. No, I think, if anything, my fault with it is maybe the pacing, which is not helped by, A, the music, but same thing with For Your Eyes Only, when the music is chosen to be used, there's a real lack of music at times.

There really is. And it's like, Four Your Eyes Only has that same thing. And then when you do get to the music, it's the kind of real dated disco thing, the Marvin Hamlish score. Right. And I just wonder, is this, like, are they responding to the gritty films of the 70s

that really sat in silence for a lot of times? Or what does this come out of? I mean, because Barry never did this. But then you have these two guys that are more contemporary come in. And I think there are they answering to that? I don't know. I think so. I think it was post-prudence connection.

But if you take... That's what I was thinking of. Yeah. In this movie and in From Rush with Love, you have fights in trains. It's small, confined train. But both of those had no music, if I'm recalling correctly. Right. And does the live and let die train fight have music?

I don't think so either. This is the exact audio, by the way. They use the exact audio of the From Russia with Love Train. They did. Oh, you mean like for the train time? For the actual train sound effect. It's the exact same track. I'm more thinking about like in the middle of the day when they're walking around

the Egyptian ruins, there's just a lot of just walking around with no music and it feels kind of, it really makes the ADR stick out too when you hear them speak and like all the wood hitting sound effects. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. A lack of music will definitely make that. stand out. He couldn't say that out loud on set.

He had to mouth it. Why? That's right. Because the Cairo travel officials were there monitoring to make sure they didn't show Egypt in a bad light. So he just had to mouth that and then they had to mouth it later. Whoa. Wow, they really dug that in.

That's some bond trivia. Thanks, Amazon Prime X-ray. Oh, that's that pop-up video. Roger says it in his commentary. Oh, there you go. Yeah, he doesn't say that. You're on a first-name basis with him, huh? Roger.

I call them Raj. But look, one thing I'm sure we can absolutely agree on is this opening sequence. Where did we rate this in our cold open episode? I don't remember, but watching it again, I rate it pretty high in my mind. It's so good. Yeah. That's so good. Throw away our old hot rankings.

We've got some new ones for you. We can evolve on this a little bit. I mean, they got some business they got to get through first with the submarine and the submarine collects, yeah. Yeah, you get a quick Jeremy Bullock appearance. Yeah. I just don't, this whole vehicle being stolen at the beginning of a James Bond movie. But did this, was this the first?

No, it's the second. Second. Second. It's the third time. No, second. Moonrakers after this. No, no, they steal the, I think of them as stealing the plane in Thunderball. Oh.

You're not going to count them. Well, but. That has a nuclear warhead on it. This, I don't know. There's something about the three Lewis Gilbert ones. You need, you need it to be taken in by a bigger vessel. operating. I don't need it to.

I'm merely responding to what the consistent theme there is. So you like a Russian nesting doll of a cold open? I guess I do. Where guess what? Even though Moonraker isn't technically that, but it is still riding on the back of a bigger vehicle. There's one vehicle at some point either taking or giving another vehicle. That's the key to this threat.

I see. Okay. So this is the second time. That's correct. It either is assuming. Yeah. or birthing. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Something like that. I mean, it's just a real parasite host vaginal birth kind of theme that clearly Lewis Gilbert was intended. Tending. I wanted to have the feeling of a woman giving birth in this middle of the sky. In reverse? Yes. So we all return to the womb.

Returned. I can't grant. Oh, no. Matt, you're dressed like a Lewis Gilbert henchman. I don't know what vessel. I mean, what vessel you'd be on, but you're certainly, I think, naval. It looks naval. Yeah, I feel kind of navely.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, let's talk about this chalet. They're in the Austrian Alps in this cabin. Right. Okay. So, are you talking about with triple X?

Are you talking about with... No. No, we're in the chalet where the ticker tape just starts... They took or take. Yeah. ...flowing out of his Seiko. Yeah. Okay.

So, right, right, it's falling out of the Seco. So I, this movie does not shy away from innuendo lines. No. As we know. With the, tell him to pull out immediately, I believe, is the line that M's. You rarely get an M, double and tondra. I guess the idea is that he doesn't realize what he's saying. An amuendo.

Yeah. MUendo. MUendo. MUendo. So she and then, but then I think the woman says something like, I cannot find the words. And then Bond says, well, let's expand your vocabulary. Right. Yeah.

Which. I think he's going to give it to her non-vaginally. That's what he's meaning. Is that what you mean? He's going to expand. Oh, my God. No. He's saying, what?

See, I feel like. Are you going to put it past them? I feel like it was just an underbaked quip. I mean, I feel like saying, let's expand your vocabulary as less as sexual innuendo as it is a practical solution. Like, English is not your first language. If I teach you some more English words, you will be able to tell me how great I am. Well, then I would have enjoyed if they cut away to the Russians that were approaching the cabin, and then they cut back and they both had glasses on and many books out.

Many book reference materials. I think he's just saying, like, let me kiss words. into your mouth. It doesn't, none of it makes sense. I know. Expand your vocabulary. If he said something else like, well, you know, we don't need words or something like, you know, something that.

That's a poster right there. Let me kiss words into your mouth. Hey guys, gals, try that on your significant others. Let me kiss words into your mouth. Yeah. Are we saying that or are we going to say we should expand your vocabulary and then attempt to kiss words into their mouth? Well, I think you need to.

be clear these days that, you know, what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Do you say words as you're kissing? Yes. You're breathing them in. And it can be anything. It doesn't even have to be romantic. Like you can just start reading. No, it'd be like, recalcitrant.

Things that are actually going to help you out. Ignominious. Intifatigable. This is the sexiest episode. Recognider. ASMR. ASMR. ASMR.

It's sweeping the internet, James. Do you know what this is? I don't know the internet. It's when people do videos where they kind of whisper and make little noises. And then that really appeals to certain people. When you want someone's attention. Whisper. Whisper.

Wasn't that a cologne from the, I mean, perfume from the 70s? Yeah. Guys? High karate. Dracar Noir. And that's where it ends for me. Or am I thinking of E.F. Hutton. No, no, that's when E.F. Hutton speaks.

People listen. No, no. When you want someone's attention, whisper, it was a perfume. Whisper, there's a bond villain, henchman. Oh. Room service. Can we get out of that couch? We never established that. That's a good question. He may still be in that couch. Should we go find him? Yeah. What if he gets out of the couch and he's super fit?

He would be. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, guys, there's a line right after that, too, where, uh, so he gets the ticker tape. He gets the little whatever those things are called. And he gets up to go, she says, what's happening? Where are you going? He says, sorry, darling, something's come up. Yeah. That doesn't make sense. Shouldn't it have been? I'm not in the business of punching up 70s bond scripts. You're no Tom bang. But I wish I was. Yeah. In that business. No, but shouldn't it have been,

something else has come up. That's better. I was going to say something's going down. that would have been good. No, but I think you're right. Something else has come up. Something else has come up. And then what does he say before he puts his goggles on? I need you. And he goes, so does England.

So does England. But the best part is, I'm pretty sure he gets into that bright yellow one snow suit with no underwear. None. Really? No. Because they show him grab it and he leans down to put it on. Just think that, like, when he finally parachutes off that glacier mountain, he's just getting really.

free-fallen. I love it. Just thinking of just, just bronze and tanned Roger Moore flowing free in there. It's probably like fleece lined or wool lined. Oh, yeah. How comfortable would that be? Super comfortable. It's not a full polyester.

It's, oh, I'll bet it's like, yeah, it's like a mint glove. The entire interior is wool, yeah. Angora, maybe even Angora, alpaca or something. Yeah. But it's, I mean, with something that fond. line and you go in with no underwear you could really only wear that once do you know what's impressive about the jump it's the amount of time he falls before he I know it's amazing because he works for a bit to get his skis off and then he still goes for a little cruise after that you'd think he'd be like

my work's done now let's get to business yeah it's it's some pretty good timing there but backup just briefly because the you guys were mentioning the disco kind of infused james bond music which to me is a direct lift from the very popular you should be dancing by the Bee Gees which came out the previous year. In fact, if you'll indulge me, I can nearly indulge you. I'm prepared to leave the room out of disinterest.

Matt, that is rude. I am very excited about it. I can't wait to hear this. I'm so excited to show my work. I love when guests come having done more work than us, which is almost most of the time. Matt, did you get through the entire film? Because last night, you had not yet

I watched it. James came over last night for a birthday party and mentioned it and I went, oh, shit, that's right. I got to watch that movie. Usually I'm on top of these things. So now I watched it this morning in full. I watched it on the plane this morning. Yeah. Okay. So let me play. Let me just kind of hold my phone up here. And this is the cue first. Okay. I love this. That that we hear. Listen to the little triangle. And then this little synth line coming up. It's this. That. And then this right here. We know, ween, we know, we're going to bea-wean-ween-o-weern-w-w-d-o-w-w-d-o-w------... Okay. Okay. I really enjoyed that. That r-re-r-re-r-r-r-r-r-r-a-r-r-... Yeah.

Put that bottom to the... Yeah. Yeah. Which came first? The Beechis. This... So the Bejie's song came out the year before. Skiing off a glacier...

Probably, you know, one of the highest-selling albums... in the world. Ski pole shoot a man. In fact, they even have, you know, when he's jumping off of the cliff and they play that little, meo-that thing is in here too. Wait. Right here. Oh, wow, yeah.

Wow. Do you think that was a direct rip-off or unconscious? Really? That was a Marvin Hamlish. I think Marvin, yeah. Either, my instinct would almost be that they were temping with that song, but I don't think they did. But I think it was so popular that they're like, we need a little bit.

Beegees vibe. Yeah. We need some of the thing that the kids are enjoying. I'm so torn about Marvin Hamlish because on one hand, you have nobody does it better, which is incredible. Yes. But then you've got shit like this. And also, I'm also torn on the end key, whether I love it or hate it. And that's the showboy choir.

Yes. I am delighted by that every time it comes on. But also, it's so crazy. Yeah. It's crazy, but I kind of, I'm kind of that way, too. I think I actually like it. Is that available on the soundtrack? No.

It's not. It's so quick. It goes right back into the... I know. Yeah. I want a full version of that. It makes me feel sad for the rest of the syncopation that they do too. It's like... Right. It's like British show music hall style. Yeah, it's like John Philip Sousa meets Thunder from Down Under because there's also a camp feeling about it. Yeah, right. Because those curtains that are on the thing are like... Yeah. They're very... I don't know whether it's this weird kind of festoonery. Fesitunery.

And it sounds like hello, something from hello dolly or something. I don't know what it is, but I actually kind of like it. Oh, that was great. James, you enriched this podcast in ways that Matt and I could never dream to do. I focus on the music stuff. No, I think that's a nice perspective. And listeners, you probably know from past podcast, James is a composer and a music editor, so he's got a certain authority.

Thank you. Please defer to it And you could not find this showboy choir version of the Nobody knows everything I looked that's weird because you know They have a full track of the honky tonk man with the golden gun That isn't even They use it in the film

But there's a full soundtrack version of it I wish they had a full soundtrack version of this Yeah in fact I think that was going through my mind Where I thought like this must actually exist But I was thinking of the man with the golden gun Well if it's out there a listener will find it No Like who like does Lewis Gilbert ever go

I thought we should do something really fun at the end because we come off this great line and I thought we should do something really wild so I asked Marvin to come up with a new arrangement no one ever said there's that's not in print anywhere I don't know maybe I mean we should probably look at the archive book is it is it Hamlish did it on his own yeah well is it is it because of the last line you know he says

what are you doing he's like holding up the British keep the British end up sorry is that is that so he goes like we've got to do something real British I mean, it feels like it's an audio version of an annoying gentleman elbowing you in the ribs going, huh? It is. That's all that is. Is she a go-up?

Do you want to do a rim shot? Hold on. Give me eight hours. I've got something better. Yeah. Gentlemen, just pulled all the actors, the actual soldiers in to do this. Yeah. It's the Monty Python sketch.

Yeah, it's the audio. Yeah. Yeah. Your wife. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Yeah. What's it like? So the parachute jump, though.

I mean, what? It's the greatest reveal in a Bond movie of any kind, right? It's great. And I love the fact, again, a sound note that they go, not just wind, it's nothing. I couldn't hear anything. You can count on one hand when that happens. I think that was a big thing people loved about the Last Jedi, too, when Laura Dern flies into the ships.

And there's no sound at all. No sound. There's a tiny bit of sound. People always say there's no sound. You found a thing people loved about that movie? There's a tiny bit. There's half the population loves it. Yeah, to dig pretty deep to get that.

I enjoyed it. I'm in the other half. Yeah. Well, speaking of which, I saw solo and actually enjoyed that. Oh, did you? Yeah. And you saw it by yourself. Solo, solo, solo.

Which, don't get me started. I know. I think you saw it by yourself to bring up this whole topic again because you knew we'd be meeting today. Self romance. Self romance. That's right. I took myself. Did you really see it by yourself? I did. I went in the morning to I pick and sat down. Here's the crazy thing. We'll get back to Bond in a second. You went to an I pick. I pick is those like the lie down theaters, but this was a theater in that complex that I'd never been in because normally they had these kind of like giant recliners and there's a table

between them but they're in sets of two but they're not so close that it like it feels like a row of these big seats. Well, they have this other theater there that if you imagine like first class plane pods, it's like that for two people. You're in your own little like alco thing. For two people. And when I bought it online, I bought one by myself and there was someone sitting next to me. So I get there and I sit in this thing like, oh no, I'm going to be in this little like love cave with a stranger. And that person that God never showed up. But there I was. I had a margarita pizza and an iced tea. What would you do if it was Ron Howard? Seriously, what would you do if it was? Ron Howard.

I would say, hey, admirable job. Now tell me what's you and what's Lord and Miller. Aren't they saying it's like 95%? 70% Howard? Oh. 70? Yeah. And 30% Lord and Miller?

Yeah. But I, you can't tell what, for all the trouble that that movie went through and for as much as people may or may not like it, it's a finished movie. Like, it really is. And I had a really good time with it. There's one part where they crammed a character in there from, past Star Wars movies that was uncalled for and frankly offensive.

God, I wish they had digitally re-put in the human Jabba the Hut. From New Hope. You mean like, take the actor who played it then, but do a CGI of him back then. Yeah.

Yeah. He's dead and at Long Dead. Long dead. Yeah, so is Jabba. But you know what, frankly, so is this character they put in Long Dead. Oh, interesting. You haven't seen it, Matt.

No, no. I haven't seen the Avengers yet. I haven't either, yeah. But I'm frankly not all interested. No. After, did you see Thor Ragnarok? Yeah. I loved that movie.

I liked it. I genuinely, I've watched it three times on planes. It really makes me laugh every time I watch it. Yeah, I had a good time. It's a good time chuckle. James, if you're looking for a good time chuckle, you throw on your Thor Ragnarok. Thank you for that. You're welcome.

Have we ever talked about the fact that when we have you on, it's truly James Bond. bonding because we're bonding with James. That's true. We've not talked about that. Nyat talked about that. Did you just kiss a new word into my mouth? Oh. So we got into the title sequence.

Okay. I have to say the other bit of trivia I learned from the X-ray. One of the models dancing in this opening sequence, her real name is Penelope Smallbone. That's where they got the name from. Whoa. Where did you learn that from? the Amazon thing?

Amazon Prime. Wow. So someone could have just typed that into IMDB in the trivia section with no citing whatsoever, and I now think it's a fact. Oh. So it's a fact. Yeah. Okay.

That sounds too weird and obscure to make up. It's got to be true. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. I don't know which girl is Penelope's small bone. Well, which one had the smallest bones?

That's a good question. Yeah. Great question. I thought it was one girl. through the whole thing. It might have been. Yeah. There's so many nipples in this movie, by the way.

Oh, my. Yeah. It's out of control. It really. In just the opening sequence? In the opening sequence? In the opening sequence. Yeah.

In the submarine? Yeah. And in the shower. Major. Oh, right. What her name? What her name? Anya.

Ania. Anya. What's her last name? Yeah. Whoa. What happened? James, you're getting a fan. call by A.V. Is that your phone ringing? No. What is it? What is it playing? I don't know.

You've been hacked Russians. I love it. Like it's a music cue. Did you leave your iTunes playing or something? I've never heard that up to the... What is this? But that sounds to me like royalty-free Russian hacking music. Definitely. That's cozy bear. I have no idea what this is. Fancy bear or? There's no application. That's what played on the computers at Sony when the North Koreans acted. iTunes is not playing. What is happening? I don't know.

And I can't turn it off. Is it in Safari? It must be a web situation. Oh, maybe it's Safari. Hold on. No. No, wait, that's YouTube. What is?

This is the Washington Post. I don't think it's playing on the Washington Post. You never know. It could be an ad down there for like an exciting new Audi. My apologies. This is a real mystery. Wow. We're never going to get to the bottom of that.

It's like our life is being scored. Oh, boy. First time they ever shot a new footage of the actor playing James Bond for the credit sequence. For the title sequence. Oh. Also, this is the first time a Bond actor has reshot the gun barrel scene. Like, because Connery just did it once. Connery just did it once.

And they had to go because they were switching from the aspect ratio of James Bond movies to 235 to 1. Interesting. They were like, like, Roger, we need you out there again. Even Hamlish's gun barrel music is a little like, I don't know, it's a little soft or something. Yeah. It doesn't have the edge. Like a ham sandwich? Yeah.

Hamlish's ham sandwiches. First of all, Marvin is kind of an odd name. Yes. Like, you don't hear that name. Even back when Marvin may have been a more popular name. Yeah, other than the Martian. I can think of fictional Marvin's. Marvin the Martian.

And Chuck Barry's cousin Marvin. Marvin Barry. Marvin. Starvin, Marvin. Starvin Marvin from numerous rap songs. There's starving Marvin. We're not talking about Marvin. Marving is a much more common name.

Super Friends had a sidekick. There was Marvin. Do you remember the super? There was a kid Marvin who wore a cape. Yeah, before the Wonder Twins. Before the Wonder Twins. Marvin and who, Penny? Yeah.

No, that was the one. Penny, large, medium bones. Marvin Gardens. Marvin's Gardens. Isn't there Marvin Hagler? Yeah. Marvin Hagler. That's a boxer.

Come on, I shouldn't be getting these sports references. Are there any other Marvin's? No, that's it. It's not a... It's named all of them. Yeah. But, you know, Marvin Hamlish, he's got quite a distinguished career. Yeah.

Yeah. He's like one of the 12 people that has the EGOT, you know. Oh, really? Which is the Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony. Tony. at home will not ever get to see how taken a back Matt just was. Well, I'd love to think his Tony was for the stage production

of the showboy chorus of Spy Who Love Me of Oh, but it does. You're not far off, Matt. I believe it was for chorus line. Wow. Yes. Which to me, did he write that? I want to say he did.

How do you get a Tony for it and not write it? To me, in my college years, I thought, was the dumbest musical I had ever heard it now. I've probably told this, I don't know about on this podcast before, but our rival high school did chorus line. But instead of the song Tits and ass, they could only do this and that. But she'd still point to her Tits and Sins and Sets and Suss. Yes. This and that. Oh, that's funny.

Oh, look it. He's got an Egot and a Pulitzer. And a Pulitzer. So he's one of two people to ever win those. all those four and a Pulitzer. Or you might want to say Pulitzer. Richard Rogers. Richard, Rick Rogers.

What did he win a Pulitzer for? Hang on, I'm going to get to. Oh, I read that too in my research. All right, here's his awards. For whom the bell told. He got it for a chorus line. That was for chorus line. Oh, maybe I'm wrong.

Wow. The Tony must have been. What did he win his Oscar for? He won multiple Oscars. He won three Oscars in one night, which was the only. time that had been done by someone who wasn't a director or a screenwriter. He won for like the way we were. He also did the music for... He did the best dramatic score for that. He got that Oscar.

He got the original score adaptation for the Sting, that same year. That is well deserved. I mean, he's adapting Scott Joplin music, but yeah. The way we were. Well, in here he's adapting the BG's, so now he's adapting the BG's. So now he's figuring out his MO. Yeah, just adapt. Hmm. He did not. He did some, seems like, old times. Oh, yeah. I can't believe he didn't win for nobody does it better.

He was nominated for an Oscar. He wrote it with a woman named Carol Sayer Bay. No, Carol Bayer Seeger. Yeah. Who wrote quite a few popular songs. She's kind of like a shadow Carol Kane. Yes. Yeah, Carol Stager.

I worked with her husband. You mean? Carol King. Carol King. Yeah. Carol King. Liya! I can't grant.

And Carol Cane. That's how you came up with it. It's a Carol Kane. Liar. She's only mostly dead. Let me ask you something that it seems not everybody catches in this movie. Yeah. But it's very clear for you to see, but some people just don't catch it.

Because as we meet Stromberg, Do you notice that his fingers are webbed? No. Not until the end of the movie. No, they show it right up front. Yeah, but I don't notice it. You don't notice. This was a thing that they did in makeup?

Yeah, they show his hands in close up pretty early right after the opening titles. And she also says he doesn't... This is why he doesn't shake hands. It's not from germs. No. I thought that was... So he's literally evolved. That's why he wants to be under the sea.

Whether or not he's evolved that way or he's just a freak or had it done surgically, I don't know. I don't mean people out there with webbed fingers or freaks. My brother has webbed toes. No, no, no. Let's be honest. We can take a stand on this podcast. Y'all are freaks. No, I'm in.

In fact, not only are they not freaks, they're forward-evolving creatures. Reverse. We came out of the ocean. Yeah, they're less of all. But maybe we're going back in like whales did. Oh, okay. And look at Mariner from Waterworld. He got gills, and he's, and frankly, we're going to need them with the seas rising.

Yeah. So my brother in Stromberg. We could find that land, that last bit of land, and then see the plaque for Everest, and then be real disappointed. Except when the smokers come in, the future. The polar ice caps are melting. Welcome to Universal Studios Hollywood. Oh, we haven't been talking about the fact that Universal acquired international distribution rights, which means maybe theoretically they could do a stunt spectacular.

How have we not been talking about this from? the first moment we started. The reverse of the Marvin Handlish got an e-got was just Matt's emotional physical state. And Danny Boyle's confirmed directing John Hodg script. Production starts December 3rd. You're really? Yeah, you know, those sleigh bells, jing and jing, ding, diggling, too. That means we got, we've got, we've got essentially 18 months.

I know. Before the next year's when we thought we might. Maybe we'll, we don't know. We have to talk about what we're doing. But, you know, I think maybe we'll take a break. and then come back. Hey, you know, you know, this is a, this is a, we both have a say in this.

Yeah, yeah. If we have to record an empty room, where neither of us are there. Okay. We're going to put it out. All right. All right. So you didn't notice about Strongberg?

How do you feel about maybe co-hosting this with me? Yeah. For a little while. Yeah, exactly. No problem. We could digitally recreate Matt. Lost it. Okay.

Well, I'm going to do Bond Jamesing with Maurice. And it's just, You and Marie is talking about famous Jameses. No, glue. We're just going to talk about glue. I love it. Yeah. I love it.

We're going to talk about the product Bondo. And we're going to do it twice a week. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, James, we're going to have to go five times a week. Can I say one more thing before we continue on with the webbing, just about the song? Yeah. That I think that that's one of the best.

For me, it's tied. for the best song that stands on its own. That's not like a, that you could listen to on the radio. Yes. To me, tied with live and let die as the best kind of stand-alone song. I mean, I think Goldfinger and all that's a great song, but it's very tied to the movie. You don't want to just listen to that. That's interesting.

How do you feel about all-time high? I think it's okay. I think it's kind of cheesy. I feel bad now because you have the sheet music. Well, my dear first. friend Michael Simmsies for my birthday got me the sheet music a seven-inch single with Rita Coolidge on the front she's wearing a red like sweatband and then he gave me a red sweat band as well that's it's beautiful and I love the fact that you have the music I just think I guess comparatively I find

it a little cheesy whereas I find this song not cheesy at all yeah yeah this one somehow man it just that's crazy though because this is also all-time high is written by John Barry This is wrong. Nobody does it better doesn't sound as dated to me as the rest of the score of Spy Who Love Me. Right.

There's a beautiful rendition of Nobody Does It Better. The instrumental version, I think there's maybe two during the movie. Is it when they're in the sunset? Yeah. Yeah, that moment's nice. And they have this,

it's a really beautiful arrangement that Marvin does. And there's like a sexy sax sound in there. Yeah. that at one point it slides up to the note so sexily that I don't even know if it ever reaches the note. It's like, I want to hear that. What other songs?

Some other song has that. Well, Layla kind of ends that way with the Alman Brothers slide guy. Greg, Dwayne. Dwayne. Right? Hold on. Let me see if... Marvin Almond.

Marvin Almond. You guys want some Marvin Almond's? I love them at a wedding. They're great. Are you looking at up, Matt? I'm trying. While you're doing that, let me see if I have any other notes here.

Oh, let me bring this up now and see what you guys think. You know, what... I feel like there's multiple sort of references, apart from the obvious, to Jaws in this movie. Now, obviously, we have a character named Jaws. Yeah. Musically. Musically, there's Jaws in that song that I was just playing, the disco version. That dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

Right. There's that. Boy, he's a real thief, this Hamlish character. At the same time, I think he's good. But he's not above being influenced. He's sampling. That's right. I guess.

So you've got the character of Jaws, obviously. You've got that. You've also got the scene where the last. Lotus comes out of the water. Yeah. And it's like shot like a jaw scene first where the camera's down in the water.

Yeah. Well, it was, it was... Oh, okay. I'm going to. It's like this, this should score... We should just loop this. It's beautiful. How deep in is the...

Maybe go like a third... I don't know exactly. There's a whole sax solo. Is this coming out of your headphones? Yeah. Yeah. What is that harp? It's probably harp.

There's strings. Harp. Oh, first is guitar. Real clean sounding guitar. Yeah. Tone knob turned up. Yeah. Matt, you're a guitar.

Fissianado. What do you think was on here? What do I think was being played? Yeah. Like a hollow body. It sounds like a jazz guitar, yeah. Like a jazz guitar. Okay, I think this is nice.

Like a diacist. Okay. Like a 70s Diochista. Here? Wait. Is it it stop? Oh, sorry. Wait, you didn't hear that sax coming in, huh?

No. Uh-uh. Shit, I was... Oh, there it is. That was it. Oh, yeah. See, we're even hanging. No phrase finishing there.

You're going to close that? No, all right. Yeah. Just leave it watch. No way, man. But I think that's a great song. I got a little bit of trivia of... Yes.

But not for you, for you to guess. Oh, okay. There are four major films that start with the spy who. Can you name them? No. The spy who shagged me. One. The spy who loved me.

No. The spy who came in from the cold. Right. And one is about to be released. And one is the spy who. Oh, yes. Oh, the spy who. I've seen this too.

It's the spy who dumped me. That's it. Who dumped me. Yeah. Yeah. That was some fun trivia. Yeah. Thank, man.

Matt, now you've got something you've brought to the table there. That's right, I do. You've done something happy with you there, man. Let me ask you a logistics question about Stromberg. Yes. He brings those two scientists in. This is great. Okay.

I'm very excited about this. So he brings those two scientists in and he says, I've transferred this money to your Swiss bank account, $10 million, right? No. Then he goes through the whole thing of killing his assistant, and then he puts them on a helicopter and blows them up in the middle of the ocean, and then calls his assistant and says,

cancel the dance. Why did he do the transfer? Like, I love the thoroughness of that. Yes. Well, just, maybe he really doesn't want to lie. I think that's part of it. I also think that he kind of was like, you know what? Listen, if this helicopter doesn't blow up or not supposed to, fuck it.

That's true. Whatever. Yeah. I do like how happy they are in that plane. I know. Very happy. We did. We made it.

We made the right choice. We made it. We're on Stromberg's helicopter. On the show, who charted comedian, Howard Kramer brings on his funniest friends to discuss the top five songs and movies of the week. And recently, he's been joined by Natasha Lagero as co-host, who you might know from shows like Another Period or The Honeymoon Stand Up Special on Netflix. They'll talk about everything from mumble rap to new country music, debate Neil Young versus Jimmy Buffett,

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He is now Earwolf's own Paul F. Tompkins. He's soul is soul. So listen to Who Charted on Apple Podcast Stitcher or wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, so here's the problem with this movie. Uh-oh. Here's the plot. Here's the big plot for me.

there is no reason for him to be so concerned with that microfilm his timetable is so accelerated at that point Bond or Stromberg that he's doing this two days, three days later he's going to launch these nuclear missiles like he did he don't why does he care you mean he's not concerned that they're going to get the information

about what does he care if they sell he's already launched he's already destroyed the cities he's wanted to destroy. Do you know what I mean? Meaning that he can do his final thing before long before they could figure out what he's done. Find that microfilm, build whatever system it is that tracks these

the way. The plot had already lost me by that point. You know, frankly in these 70s and 80s bonds, I'm never watching for the plot, you know. They're just hoops to jump through for me. Yeah. So well here's the problem. I think you lose the plot in this movie, I think that the movie even, it falls apart even more.

I don't, there's not, there's so much to not, there's not enough to love about this movie. That's how I feel about it. It's weird. Oh, I disagree. It's weird. It is. It's also, I agree. It's horrible.

Yeah. It's just so soundly solid that it's almost offensive. No, that's not true. Oh, but you guys are so mistaken. Here I have, this is your damn. podcast. I'm coming on to tell you how wrong you are. We're here to hear it. But you may be right. You know, we're lovers, not experts. Yeah. And if going by the feedback we sometimes get, we're frequently wrong. Oh. No, I'm not saying you wrong. It's obviously a subjective thing, but

I think there's so much to love about it. Like, let's just take, I mean, I feel like the character of Jaws is a great... Is he? Character. Okay. I think so. In fact, In fact, in the commentary, Roger Moore is talking about how he's very James Bond-like, in that he gets trashed and then stands up, brushes himself off, and lives. Yeah, he straightens his tie. Right. That fight in the Egyptian ruins, it lacks energy for me somehow. And maybe it's because Jaws can only kind of move lumberingly or something.

But there's even Bond, nobody has a real urgency. Even when he recoils back, he just kind of sits there for a second. And when Jaws is ripping the van apart, they're looking at each other, making quips. But I still feel like there should be some urgency. Like in Four Your Eyes only, they're making quips in that little yellow citron. And they're still, like, care about their lives, you know?

I don't know. This one's a little too cavalier for me. That's interesting. And I noticed that particularly in that van scene. Yeah. See, I love the slow motionness of the van scene, where it's like, Bond is remaining calm. She's, I feel, like, showing some fear about,

all this happening. Bond is remaining cool. He's like, you know, and then he's just ripping this thing apart. Yeah. I feel like Jaws will do things just to show how confident and how strong he is. Like on the train,

he bites into the wood for no reason, but just to show. Yeah. He's nice. He's been chasing him the whole time. Well, that's true too. But some music would have helped in that van sequence,

even if it's like comedic music or something. Yeah. That's dangerous, though, don't you think? Well, I agree, but still. I have some exciting news. for all of us, guys. The show in Cairo, the light and the sound, still running. Still running.

Really? We can go sit down and watch that show. You know, I have in my notes here that I want to go see that show. Guess what? Well, you can. Still running. The Tunes of Kiops. And that I'll give Marvin Hamleth some more credit there, that it's like scoring the movie but scoring the show.

Oh, I don't think he scored the show. Oh, that was their music. I think that's the show. Oh. Well, let's go there and take that little cardboard cut out of Roger Moore that they used to shoot that one insert shot. Oh, when he's looking? Yeah. Because the pyramids were not, they couldn't light them correctly or something.

They forgot to get that shot. Yeah. Yeah. You go to Egypt and you forget to get the pyramid shot? With bond in it for some reason. Yeah, I don't know why. But when they first cut there, I go like, what a nice evening. I really, because it looks so warm.

I want to be there. I do too. It looks really warm. lighting is nice, it's colored lights. There's tons of people out there, and I normally don't like crowds, but I like that crowd. I probably wouldn't go by myself,

so I'd hope that you guys would join me. I have an idea for what this podcast should become, James Bounding. And we go to these places and record episodes, and we write the whole thing off. Oh, my God. And we're traveling. That's genius.

Yeah. Bounding. Sounds good, but cost prohibitive, unless we just do it as a Stitcher Premium show. Stitcher Premium, are you listening? Jim Stitcher Premium? Wherever you get your podcasts. That's who it's named after. It's interesting when he gets off,

when she drugs him with her cigarette thing, which is pretty cool. Yeah. And he wakes up and there's that sweet Egyptian man offering him water and information. He is so disdainful of him and it's so out of character for Rod. or more, but it does have a feeling of that British colonialism, like, oh, this was once in our

empire probably, or even if it wasn't, like, there's not even an effort made for him to seem kind to him. Even when he tips him, it's done kind of begrudgingly, like here. And it feels so weird, you know. Yeah, I mean, Fekish is dead. He's lost his lead. I love Fekish's tux shirt, by the way. Fegish. Fegish is a great character. Yeah. Also pronounced Fakesh. Fekesh. Fekesh Fekesh But they say it Fakesh

Someone says Fakesh Yes But Rosh Roper repeatedly just says Fecish Yes

Yeah But I was wondering Those cases Did the director Just not Correct the other actor Who said

Fekesh? I wonder that too Or was it A kind of Yeah It could be

Either Well that's Like when George Lucas In interviews Call Hoth Hoth And Count

Duku Duco Duoco Right And like The Gungans Yeah And then

The Lasers Sword Instead of Lightaber Like Wait You literally

created these things which is it here, pal. Right. I don't know. Did we miss the part? That's a great idea. We should have a podcast where we just ask George Lucas what it is.

That's Yada. Okay. And Luck. Skywaker. All right. Carrie Fisher's character, what was her name? Leha. Oh, okay.

Organza. Ogunza. Uh-huh. Prynces, Lili. Admiral. Bar. What is the name of the Wookie Planet?

Mars. But it's spelled with a K-A-Z-Y-S-H-Y-Y-S-H-Y-Y-E-I-K-Mars. Q-Mars. Yoder, the Gabblin, the green goblin man who lives in the swamp, and the Wampa. Goes to Degoba.

That's my good friend, Alec Guinness. I'm Irvin Kirshner. I directed not only Empire Strikes Back, but also Never Say Never Again. That's right, and I was in luck fortunate enough to be in both. That's right. We stuck them in Never Say Never Again as a little, what was the first Easter egg ever invented. I hatched it myself out of my little pouch. What's this pouch? I'm a Mazubial.

That is how we'd say it. Yoder. You've got Yoda. You've got Dark Vader. He's an invader. He invades. You get it. Let me ask you this. Yes. Sir, you characters you helped bring to the screen had a big weekend this past weekend with Solo a Star Wars. Right. So Lando Calerizini's Armenian. We wanted to represent the Armenian culture. What do you think of the newest iteration of Lando?

It's great. I directed it. Whatever you heard about those two upstarts isn't true. Neither is that hack that ruined those brilliant Dan Brown novels. Specifically Inferno, my favorite. What a great story. Not at all, a cash grab. So I went in there. This refers to him as Opie Cunningham.

Gives him no respect. I do. I call him Opie Cunningham. And I directed Solar. And it was a great hit. and people are respecting it and many people tell me that it's the greatest movie they've ever seen.

It was a great hit. It was a great hit this weekend. It was a great hit. It's already out of theaters. Fucking most perfect phrase you've ever uttered as a director who primarily worked in the early 80s. A great hit.

No one says that. It was a chart-topping film. It was a billboard The Bofo box office That's right, Alex How have you been? Very good. You know, Ron and I, if you wouldn't allow me,

I was also in happy days. That's right. You were all back in the 70s. You played Reverend Cunningham. I played Fonsie's uncle, Reverend Cunningham. Wow, Fonzie's uncle was related to the Cunningham. That's why he was able to live at the house. It was my suggestion.

He lived to live. in the garage as well or he lived in a... I lived in the basement. The basement, right. Yes, it was myself and the older brother Chuck. The one that died in the army or Vietnam? He did die in the army and they brought his body back and laid it to rest. Died in the Army in Vietnam in the 50s?

Yeah. What was he doing over there? He was not related to the war. French Foreign Legion wearing one of those hats with their stiff on top, but they've got flaps in the back. If you know what I mean. Let me kiss some words into your mouth. Flaps in the back. Party up front.

How did you feel about seeing the Millennium Falcon again? Great. Of course, I've been flying it all these years, so I lent it back. I had done some work on it. Oh, you got it up looking brand new. Yeah? That's right. I put that little escape capsule right back in the middle, so it's got less cleavage.

Spoiler alert. Well, ever since... L3 was, I don't want to say too much about it, but there's a reason. Lander is not the only one to fall in love with that sweet little tin-voiced honey. Anyway. Thank you. Well, I'm doing a new film with Lander, Yoder, and the Womper. Oh, wow.

What is this one going to do? It's called Lander, Yoder, and the Womper, The Thief, the Cook, and the Lover, Tinkatelah, Seldius, Spy. a rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief. Or how I learned to love the bomb and stop worrying. Happened on the way to the forum. Oh, wow. Okay. All right?

Well, thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, I really should let you get back to the podcast that people have intended to hear. Really? It's good to have you. We're only 55 minutes in and about five minutes into covering the movie. Well, guess what? That's what happens when James arrived. That's right.

When James comes, it is a... It is a little bit of a holiday celebration. And it is Memorial Day for coming a round. It is Memorial Day. They remember the fallen guests of the past? We had any guests past? No. They perform so bravely.

No, they're all with us. That's right. That's good. Well, Q comes out into the... I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Matt. No, please. Did we miss the part where they... Probably.

Oh, I don't know. I can't keep track of the chronologically. Chronologically. chronologically. Someone miskissed that into your mouth? Someone miskissed it. But a miss kiss is still pretty enjoyable.

Where Bond shows up in the tent. Yeah. Oh, yes. Did we go past that? We're past it, but do you want to talk about the Lawrence of Arabia theme? Yes. I do want to talk about that,

but that I think happens slightly afterward. That's like how they put the Magnificent 7 theme in Moonreicher. And the Beach Boys and, no, that's different. No, that's right in there. And the Bee Gees and Jaws. Yeah. Are you saying you want to watch an entire film that is just James Bond dressed like a chic?

And Close Encounters is in there, too. Or is it 2001? That's in Moonwreck. Yeah. Close Encounters, that's right. Now with this, when I just wanted to bring up that kind of trope, and maybe it wasn't such a trope back then, but where he comes into the thing,

and it's the moment of like two guys who know each other who are friends who pretend for the audience's sake that they don't. Get out of you, old pirate. Yeah, exactly. It's the Hans Solo Lando thing. Well, I'd like to think I invented that. Oh, he's back. Hans Solo strikes back.

And we put it, of course, in that film. And we did it in the new one. We did a little reversal, so you can enjoy that. And we did it in this film, of course. Spy Who Love Me. Kind of you. You were involved in the Spy Love Me. I directed it, certainly.

Wow, I didn't know that. You went uncredited, apparently. I directed every film. Ever? Ever? Well, I'm sorry, we've got some critics here of this to say it was maybe too down the middle, maybe too perfect. Unless you were trying to do that. Were you trying to play with everyone?

I absolutely was, and Matt, Matt, you're right. James, I'm afraid you're wrong. Oh. It's not a, it's too solid to be good. Well, I'm too solid as a director. Is that possible, by the way? Are we witnessing something that you, Matt, Gourley, and I feel is too good to be good? I got to let Matt answer this.

I agree. I think I feel that way a bit about... It's so strange. Yeah. You know what it is? There's part of me is like every movie I can sort of like... Tomorrow Never Dies problem. That's probably how you feel about that.

So why don't you feel that way about this, about Tomorrow Never Dies? Well, because Tomorrow Never Dies was, that was 13. Yeah. But I still think this is a good movie where Tomorrow Never Dies is down the middle and boring in a bad way. one's down the middle and boring in a good way. Well, I can recognize that this is, I think this is a good movie. Yeah, I think so. Intellectually, I think this is

a good James Bond movie. Yeah. But just coming at it as someone who's like, I gotta tell you, there's not an outfit in this movie that James Bond is wearing that I'm like, that's the best. Except for that Commando Ski. Yeah, okay, his naval uniform. But you normally see an outfit that you go,

that's the best. Yes. Oh, yeah. Like, give me an example. Live and Let Die when it gets off the A movie. I'll give you an example. Roger Moore's outfit when he gets off the plane to come to New York and he's wearing that sweet tailored coat. Here's what we'll do.

Yeah. We'll go through the history of Roger Moore's outfits. Ready? So live and let die. Yes. You'll go with that one. But also his black turtle neck. With the pistol.

He's strapped to him. He wears black in this movie. He does. Doesn't he? Man with the golden gun. There's not a lot. Does he doesn't have a great suit in that one? Aha.

I see. I see what you're doing here. I like it. I like it. I like his flying to the island at the end. Bage get up. It's pretty good. Yeah.

But then when we're like, so we'll jump past this, we'll go to Moonraker, his safari coat in Moonraker. You should get one of those. We're big fans out of. No. Yes, I do. For your eyes only. Oh, his climbing gear. His climbing gear.

Yeah. We love it. Okay. Okay. And then you jump into. Octopussy? Octopussy. Well, octopusus is just full of wonder for us.

So. Mm, his clowns see. No, the amount of time he took to get the clown makeup perfect. Yeah, okay. It's about 15 seconds. View to a kill. I like his bomber jacket. Yeah.

Good to see him in a good bomber jacket. Driving a Jeep. I like him driving a Jeep. I like a Tweed coat. He's got a lot of good outfits. When is he driving a Jeep? Doesn't he drive the Jeep? I'm just thinking of...

Octopsy? The opening tweet he's got in Octopus. He's pretty good. I'm thinking of... Oh, yes, the opening, the hat that becomes stiff. Yeah, no flaps. There's some great outfits in Octopus. Okay.

But I'm just, I'm putting the Jeep Cherokee. I'm putting him in that Jeep Cherokee, which he's not. He's never in it. That's his buddy that gets killed. Yeah. From behind. Yeah. Okay.

I guess I haven't paid enough attention. Here's my thing on that. There's not a great outfit in this one. Okay. Even when he's in the tucks and they're having that exchange. Yeah. I noticed one of his shirts. has not just a huge collar, but a very tall collar.

It goes right up to his jaw line. I've never seen one quite that tall. There's another reference to Jaws. Yeah, must have been. Jeez. Did you... This was the one, and I read this, and this could be wrong, but wasn't this the one that they wanted Spielberg to...

Yes. Maybe. Yes. Right. Another Jaws. Yes. They really loved Jaws. And Robert Shaw was in Jaws.

And from Russia. with love. With love. That's right, Chiefie. I want to talk about Q's hands because it's interesting this time when he shows up in the field with the lotus. Yes. The reason I noticed his hands this time, because sometimes his scenes will come on and be like, oh yeah, I got to do the hand rating, the size of his hands.

This one, he waves through the windshield in a wide shot, and it's like he's holding up fake plush hulk hands. Because they like take over a major part of the windshield. It's... And then I didn't realize how tall he is. Oh, yeah. They show him get out of that car and he's standing next to Roger Moore, who is no short person. Yeah. And he's taller than Roger Moore.

This man is huge. He's big. Yeah. Also, Lotus notorious for being difficult to get out of as a tall person. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're so low to the ground. Oh.

But I'll tell you, when I noticed it, same scene, but it was when he had his hands by his side. Water in the background. It was the blue of the ground. of the water that really accentuated his meatbooks hanging next to it. You know what it's like? It's like how they wore those fake rubber feet in the Hobbit. He seems like he's wearing fake rubber gloves of his hands.

He's like, I don't know if you've seen the 2009 Star Trek that JJ Abrams directed. Yeah. Oh right. Where Chris Pine gets some sort of disease and he gets swollen hands. Yeah. Those are probably exactly Yeah. Wow. Anyway, I'm giving him a golden eye plus 2.5 and that's pretty These are his biggest hands yet.

Maybe. That's pretty big. compared to like how late golden eye comes. Yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and give it a golden eye plus three. Wow. Going up higher. Yeah. It's pretty bold scores, guys. Yeah, I think he got the swelling under control for two more movies and then it just came back.

So he had a medical problem? Nope. Oh. Wait a minute. We have a huge misstep we've just done. Because he has an outfit in this movie that is as good as any. And that's when he's in his naval commander outfit with the turtle neck. I did say naval commander.

Oh, he did? Yeah. I think he looks amazing in that. That's his best outfit. Yeah. I think that's up there because just that double-breasted naval commanding thing with the turtleneck. Come on. I do love whenever James Bond's character is in his naval uniform.

Yeah. But we haven't seen Craig in his naval uniform. I think he said this was the first one where he's wearing the naval uniform. Yeah, the only one, I think. We have not seen Daniel. It would be weird to see Daniel Craig in a dress naval uniform because you don't think of that guy is respecting authority and being in the Navy. Phil, our man in the East talks about this often. In fact, there's a photo someone did of it.

A Photoshop of Daniel Craig and a naval uniform, a naval commander's uniform. This is the first time James Bond's past is mentioned in a movie. How about that, everybody? What do you mean? Oh, you mean that they bring up his ex-wife? Tracy and the fact that he was recruited from the Royal British Navy. Right, and he kind of stops it with, I get to your point. Oh, look at that.

Yeah, if you, it's just Google Bond talk after dark. and Craig in a bond naval uniform or what? Oh, well, sign me up for that. That's pretty good, huh? Dan Boyle, if you're listening. I could be totally wrong, but is this one of the only times that someone refers to Desmond Loisland as Boothroid? It is one of the only times.

But not the first or not... Happens three times? Three times. You seem pretty sure about that. Yeah. Wow. What are the others? Doctor Neer.

It's from Russia with Love. Uh-huh. Oh. And this one. And Doctor Now? And Dr. No. And Dr. No. And Dr. No.

The other thing, just, we're at the car part. I got to say, this car is fantastic. I love the lotus as spree. You're a sucker for a lotus. I'm a sucker for a lotus. It's that wedge design that was designed by the same guy. I can't pronounce his name, but it's designed by the same guy who did the DeLorean design. Oh.

He did a bunch of... John DeLorean. You're talking about Chuck Lotus? He was the Coke Attic behind it. Chuck Lotus? Chuck Lotus? Chuck Lotus. Chuck Lotus.

That's a great name. I know. I'm looking, because Mask had that cartoon that I loved, had something very similar to this. Am period, A period, S period. Oh, Mask. Yeah, I don't know what Mask stood for. Do you? Mobile Armored Strike Command.

There you go. Why was the K a command? Okay, we'll never know. No idea. No idea. But he also did a bunch of Maserati stuff and maybe Ferrari. I can't remember. But I just think that car is very simplistic but beautiful.

And one of my favorite designs on the outside. On the inside, if you've ever seen the inside of a Lotus Espri, they're kind of dumb looking. Oh, why so? Well, the instrument cluster is in this weird, like, projecting out almost like it looks like it's made of velvet or something like that. This sounds great. Are you kidding? It's not velvet, but it looks like it's weirdly projecting out of the dashboard in a not. a cool way.

That's my, does my take. See, look at this. You telling me this, this is a mask car called shark. Oh.

And that's very, that kind of looks like a Porsche. It is a Porsche. Oh, it is a Porsche. But still, like even how the fins kind of come out of the wheel.

Yeah, very much like it. Yeah. God, I love this show. You know, when Elon Musk bought it, his intention is to make it actual working,

yeah, which if anyone can, he can, I think. He's turning more and more into a bond villain every day. Oh, yeah.

I love having him on the planet for now. He's starting to scare me a little. It's great. His whole selling of flamethrowers was my favorite thing he's done. Yeah, if anyone, he is really... And now he's to get into candy. Candy, which he's going to poison the nation's children. I know.

He's launching stuff into space. He really has the makings of a bond. I know. He's also starting to dress literally in Nehru jacket. It is crazy. That's conscious. Yeah. You think?

Right? Like, because he's a fan of the franchise. Is he? Like, I think he understands the fun of it. I hope so. That's funny. Something Roger Moore says about the Lotus in the commentary is he says, well, you know, these cars were not meant to, for picture cars, you need them to be able to be able to sit

and be ready. And he said the Lotus was not, it was a brand new car. Like they parked it out front for them to see, like, maybe Cubby, was he the only one left, and Harry Salzman had left at the point? This is the first one without Salzman. They parked it out in front of, you know, pictures, I guess, to just show it to them. And they were like, yeah, we need that for this thing. So it was like a pre-production model that they were showing.

But he said it wasn't, he said the problem with the car was it wasn't meant to be sitting there idling and waiting for each shot. And then Roger kind of throws it at the end. And besides, if I wanted to buy one, they were going to charge me full price. So his problem was mostly, I think, he had a problem with the fact that they were in charge him. That's fucking perfect. Speaking of villain outfits, Stromberg's outfit in the first scene reminds me so much of the things. that you wore when we did the Andy Daily live show

it's like you had kind of a kimono tunic on Yeah It's that kind of shiny Almost a neary I thought it was a Nehru suit from behind Yeah but it's more like a tunic It's kind of like a tunic That's wrapped around kind of a vending

He looks like the most comfortable villain Yeah He's very comfortable I think he's the most comfortable villain Yeah Does he really Except when Scareamong is in his track suit They nailed it

Yeah Man Wow He's a lover and an expert on comfort. I got to do a P.P.K. Do I not want to miss this, though? No, I mean, I'm just going to talk a little bit about villain.

Villain happiness? Villain happiness? Yeah. Okay. There's like, there's always the moment that I've talked about before where the villain sort of drops his guard and becomes more human. And he usually is excited and talking about something that he just genuinely enjoys. Yeah.

So for this one, I was waiting for it to happen. I don't really feel like he ever lets his guard down. even when he's showing the marine biologist the fish. Uh-huh. Well, because he's testing him. Yeah. Right? It's not a, this is my love.

There should be like a little, after he gets it right, there should be like, oh, yes, what do you think of this? Like, there should be a little bit of that happening. Like, you share my love for these things. Yes. Right. You almost get the feeling that once he says, he proves that he knows that this, what are those kingfish?

What are they called? Whatever they're called. that once he proves that he knows it, that he would be like, oh, a fellow lover of the, but it's kind of a twofold scene. It's like he's wondering,

is this guy for real? And now he's proved it. He still doesn't seem to accept him that much. Also, is his plan to radiate the major cities so that people will be forced to live in the underwater cities? I think so. And yet he only has one underwater city ready to go.

And by city, we mean place with large table, probably a sleeping quarters. Is it a, is it a moonwaker plan? plan where he plans to repopulate the world with his underwater people? I think he just wants the world to live underwater, which makes little to no sense. I get that he has webbed hands and feet and is probably really good at swimming.

Right. But only a lucky few have that. Yes. So is he looking only to get those people? Like, shouldn't he have collected those people at this point? Right. His plan doesn't make the most. Matt brings up a good point, Matt, which is, was Stromberg's plan to radiate the cities to bring

everybody underwater just to force them to live underwater or was it was was he down on society feeling like we need to start over i think he was feeling like we need to start over he's a hugo draks mom yeah that's what we're saying yeah that's all he's saying right he's not saying like with a new outlook on life society society is terrible he's saying we should be down here i think he's just got his flipper hands and he's feeling a like he belongs there he identifies with it he says that and he's also like, I'm clearly going to be king if I've got flipper hands and we're all in the water even though we can't go out underwater.

Yeah, I mean, the pressure would kill him. Right. Unless he has like a super... If anything, he's the worst king because he's still going to be in structures with air. So he's going to be fumbling the tabasco sauce all the time trying to pick it up and his wandser... He does love his tabasca, doesn't it?

I know. That has to be a nod. That, in fact, is what we're calling a loft, a listener look out for this because I got a few tweets saying, Look out for the Tabasco that he's eating because that means the spirit of knick-knack lives on. But it's also, my question is, is he eating that Tabasco with shellfish? It looked like oysters. I feel like he's a guy who would not.

He's a cannibalistic, yeah. Why is he eating the creatures he loves? Right. Does it say he's eating shellfish? I mean, it looks like. What else are you putting Tabasco on? I put it on a lot of things. It can go on salads, sandwiches, soups.

But he's not eating his species. He's more of like a merman or a fish, shellfish or mullo. You know. Well, guys, fish eat other fish. Right. It's the rule of the sea. That'd be like us eating chickens.

Right. Like the fish would say, like, why are you eating another thing that lives on land? A land mammal, yeah, like a little. They're not mammals. Beaver. You guys. Marzupials. Mazzubios.

Oh, God. They live on Mars. Like Marvin. Matt, to your point is, I just remembered that Jaws is also hiding somewhere watching, wait, or maybe I'm, to make sure to check out. make sure it's him. Like, is that the guy? Yeah. So he's still, even though James proves that he knows about fish, I think he's still dubious because

he knows Jaws is going. He's very suspicious. Maybe he's just testing him knowing who he, knowing it's him. Well, here's my follow question, okay. Does he take the, the Stromberg take the meeting because he is interested in talking to a marine biologist.

B. W. Wants to find out if it's James Bond because there's a good chance it could be. Jaws is here. I could be both. Could be both. Could be both. So far. C, is he taking the meeting? Because, no, there's the only two reasons he would take the meeting. But like, if he's taking the meeting because he wants to meet with the marine biologist, why be so dismissive of the marine biologist once the marine biologist comes?

Maybe it's how, like how Trump meets with New York Times reporters. It's this sort of like sexy rivalry, you know. I think that that's possible. It's not sexy. I think he... The least sexy. I think he knows who it is. And coincidentally, he makes an appointment saying he's this marine biologist. Yes.

And coincidentally, Jaws is like, you know, I ran into, I think it's James Bond. I think it's this guy. And so he agrees to the appointment. I'd love to see that. I think it's James Bond. I don't know how that was left on the cutting of floor. That sounds a lot like something that James Bond would do. You know, why don't you say yes, and I'll take a look and see if it's him.

But how many times, you guys will know this and you'll say tons of times, but where he actually uses another name besides James Bond? Quite a bit. Oh, James Stock, John Sinjin, Smide. Yeah, but it's not as often as it should be. Who was it, James Sterling in this one? Yeah, I think so. Something Sterling?

Where he uses another name. But it's also like, why have his assistant? wait outside. I think he did that to kind of, like, say, like, to get intel that he still wasn't sure she should have. Like, they're still playing a bit of a one-up'smanship thing. Okay. Yeah. Is it at that point, is that pre-she finds out that he killed her lover?

Or is that post? Oh, I think she kind of, doesn't she figure that out at the very end? She does figure that very late in the game. Yeah. Wait, that he's the one? Yeah. Not at the very end. I think it's about three quarters of the way through.

Right. Where they're at, where are they? I can't remember what plot was happening. They're in a swanky hotel. They're in a swanky hotel. Oh, right. And she brings up, he brings up that he was in the place where it happened. And she goes, she brings a picture over and says, like, do you recognize this guy?

And he's like, no. Or, you know. I think that scene is really interesting, by the way. Because for the first time, it's, I mean, again, I, I mean, again, I, I don't know. But it seems like James Bond is remarking on someone that he killed. It just seemed like a random thug. Yeah.

Who now has like a real humanity behind it. This guy had a wife and, or not a wife and family, but he had a relationship. But also like the way he does it is so interesting because he does it. But then like Roger Moore just turns around and goes, yes, I did. Like he's like, I can't be sure I was skiing away from him. And then he, and then he turns and goes, I did. I killed him. Right.

Is he, is that, is that James Bond? Hunt running through his memory banks to like see. I think he's just going statistically, yes, I probably killed. Right. Good chance. He was in the same city. It was probably me. How many people died there that weekend?

One? Yes, it was more. It made even more poignant when you realize that that actor was once considered to play James Bond, right? Is it more poignant or the same poignant? I'm going to give it 2.5% points more. More point. Yeah. Okay.

It's a golden knife plus 2.5. More ployment. Point. Poiment. Is this the only James Bond movie where nukes actually go off? Because that also significant. That's so great. Two nukes go on.

Very close to where they are. Yeah. I love the crew of the sub. Yeah, me too. The American sub and the, the Soviet sub doesn't seem to really factor in that much. No. Oh. Yeah.

They don't seem to like help. Typical. Or at least they're not just like, they're not showcased as helping. Yeah. We're really focusing a lot on the American sub and the British sub. Right. Yeah. In fact, I may have even forgotten there was a Soviet sub there.

Right. Was there? There are three subs. That's how you get. Three subs. That's how you get on you there. Right. They take a British sub.

They take the American sub last. And it's still unclear as to how the sub loses power. Like what pulse that thing is putting out or something? I read a bit of trivia too about torpedoes and how you wouldn't put a number 46 detonating that close to your ship. I was like, this is too much information. That cracks me if they do all that with stopwatches, that they were still using stopwatches for that kind of thing.

Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. That is crazy. I don't understand it, but I love it. There's one thing I wanted to mention that I don't know if you guys noticed that right after that scene Sorry I'm going back a little bit

Right after that scene where she says I'm going to have to kill you when this mission is over It cuts literally to them being lowered into the sub And there's a shot where Bond is like looking at her Like with this smug look on his face like Aren't I cute type of thing That I go like this seems so out of place for I'm going to need to kill you

And then he's going like You're sure Looking up at her like You want to kill a little bit with her. Oh, thousand percent. I just think I kind of wonder, like, was there a scene left out? Or was that not supposed to go there right next to that shot?

That felt like it was supposed to go there. Yeah, like it just seems like an odd choice. Yeah, it's weird. Because also in real time, he's waiting for them to respond, basically, to like juxtapose that of like, oh, you're going to kill me, huh? Well, here we are working together. Do you think that's what he was going for? I don't know.

I didn't really pay attention to that. So. Do do do do do do do. Wait, what's that? That's an all-time high. Oh. Oh, but do-do do do. Okay, yeah.

Sorry, so the submarines, we talked about this enormous James Bond set. There's also the water bike, the proto jet ski, which I love that Q sends this, right? But it still has a water bike logo on it. Like Q was like, he's either like, I'm, so proud of this, I got to name it, or I might want to try marketing this, but do

me up a painted logo on the side that says water bike. Here's what I always thought. I think that the Q branch supplements their income by inventing commercial products. Probably. Yeah. So they like invent something and go, hmm, his fishing boat. Let's sell this out. Yeah.

Sell this out. But it's like Stromberg has his logo on everything where I go, like, wouldn't you want to be a little more clandestine? Oh, look at Musk. He's got his Tesla logo. everywhere he goes. Right, but that's the legitimate face of the Musk Enterprise. Same with Hugo Drax Industries, Soren.

But when it gets to M. U. P.S.S. period S period K. Mobile Armored Strike Command? The Musk Organization. Mobile underwater strike command. He's going to use the Lotus. It's going to be the first.

Why is he not done a cologne? Musk. Musk. Musk. Musk squared. Elon's Musk. Elon's Musk. Musk.

Musk. Elon's musk and he bottles his own genius entrepreneurial sweat I like it Elan Musk Paramus Elan Musk Elan

I don't know We'll come up with it What is happening I think it's just Elon's Musk Elon's Musk Yeah Um Right

So this is this is to me Where the movie gets a little bit Draggy Yeah And I think I heard that Once the Fighting All starts That this is

The second time that they've, the guys have barricaded themselves behind a silver. Yes. Exactly like you only live twice. Right. Which was also directed. God, yeah. I mean, that is another thing. The ending thing is pretty much exactly the same.

Yes. Instead of arming astronauts that have been taken. I want to talk about two. When, when, like, this is an exciting gunfight that as a kid, I remember when this is on TV, I would stop everything and watch. I just loved. massive military war gun shot, like all that stuff. But at some point in film history, and it's probably in the 80s, sound designers started

caring about syncing up machine guns with the visuals. Because when you fire these things in these James Bond movies, you only live twice especially, but even in this movie, the machine gun will start before they start firing or after, and they just don't seem to care that much. And it's not something you notice right away. You know what? I think it is. I think it's more of a realistic situation.

Because I think what you're hearing, I think you're hearing the chaos of everybody else's machine guns going. I wish. But there was a point where they just like, like saving Private Ryan really took pains to make the... Every shot that you see is representing.

But not only that, like you don't just hear the gunshot. You hear the like, of the bullets hitting and the shells dropping. Yeah. And the gun, yeah, with this is just so like startling the machine gun thing that it's, It's almost comical in a way.

Yeah. What I found interesting too is Ken Adams' design, which this is what I love about it, it's very still stuck in the 60s. Like, you know the little vehicle that he rides around in? It really looks like a 60s. By the way, it's the second time he's used the little mono track thing. Right. Only lived twice. And isn't there one in Moonraker as well?

Yes. But also, this one could shoot out the side of the ship turning into a cool speedboat. Right. That dummy's way. And now that shot is probably, this movie has probably the best miniature work and the worst miniature work combined. Yeah.

That shot out of the thing is laughable. It's so bad. I love it. It's so good. So bad. But I mean, yeah, for comparative with how good the miniature work is on the giant ship.

The tanker. The tanker is amazing. They have that story about the ship's captain that they were going to rent the ship comes to the premiere and is like, how did you end up getting the ship? and it was all miniatures. Right. Because they got approval to use the actual ship

if they would pay for the insurance and it was like $50 grand a day or something like that. Yeah, I want to say maybe more than that more. Yeah. Because it was apparently more dangerous to have an empty tanker because of fumes than a full tanker or something like that. Yeah. Hmm. But that, there's an interesting thing with the music.

This is a little music note I noticed. When James Bond is riding the camera thing and he's sitting on top of it as it's moving across the ceiling, they're playing the James Bond theme, and I kind of was watching it going like, this seems like this cue was not written for this scene because it has one of those unearned, like he's just now like three quarters of the way through

and it switches into, but I was like nothing new has happened. The music placement in this film, and maybe that's a music editor's job. Like maybe that person really screwed up. I think this cue is definitely music edited in because also the way it ends is when he pulls the plug on all the camera,

cameras and it does a chop out. Yeah. You know, so it's like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-d. That's right. It's almost comical. It's almost a comical, yeah, like they were listening to the music. Like, it was source music.

Right. The henchmen were listening to. I really liked that it gets stuck when he's trying to go backwards. They did like that. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. That was a fun little.

That's something that would happen to you on, Craig's Bond. That's right. And then they try to operate the camera again, and that's how he gets away? Yes. They reset the fuses or something Or the circuits They tripped the circuit And that's how he

That's how he No that was It was just dealing with plants Oh Yeah And that's how the thing moves back And he gets away from the bomb Yeah

And then that bomb And then the captain of that ship again The moustachio John Rimmer Captain decides to like Tell him he to go too late And then die Oh yeah

Right Yeah That's a recurring kind of Trope in Bond films is the reluctant scientist or underling of the Bond villain because you get that same thing in, is it Moonreicher? There's a few of those that pop up where they're helping the villain, but they end up kind of feeling bad about it.

Well, you're thinking of probably Thunderball, which is the most blatant. Yeah. Who's hit? I don't know. What do you say in my life? Right. That guy, yeah, exactly.

Weird scientists, man. Yeah, he's interesting. That's something we'll probably never do a ranking episode on. You never know. Reluctant underlings. We still haven't done the sidekick one. I know, and we got to get to some of these movies. Oh, we definitely do.

I want my number five to be double O's, or Operation Kid Brother. Okay. Who else wanted in on that? Someone else wanted in on that? Or was it, you? It's me. Didn't we talk about doing it with Paul? It wasn't Maurice?

For how to get made or something. Oh, someone else did mention that. maybe it was you though I've we've talked about it before yeah the first person to bring it up to me it was sheer even I mean while I was at midnight so this is like four or five years ago we do got to do that one we have to do it um could be a fun live one oh yeah people watch it yeah but doesn't the nuclear explosion go off I mean it's out at sea yeah but still there's gonna be I mean they're not that far the tanker is not that far away from these subs is it I don't I mean in nuclear terms frankly I also don't know what happens when you detonate a nuclear bomb in the water.

In the water? Does it dissipate? Are you like cool? It's got to be good for the environment. Don't they, weren't they testing a lot of them off shore? Bikini Atoll? Yeah. But that was on land or was it in the water?

I think it was. That one was on one of the islands. It was like sitting on top of that. I think so. Yeah. Interesting. If you know about nuclear bombs, please write us. Yeah.

Maybe these weren't full strength. nuclear weapons. They were more fun-sized. Fun-sized. I think he wanted to level Moscow in New York, so they're probably pretty fine. Well, yeah. That's true. I don't know. But then... But you feel like the movie's about over. You feel like that's the deemont of the entire thing.

But then he's got to kill Stromberg and deal with Jaws. I like the Stromberg showdown thing. It's good. Yes. I also very curious about Stromberg's... Torpedo? Torpedo exploding torpedo gun tube? The gun rocket?

that doesn't stop a small bullet when you fire it back into it? And does, do you think he gets shot in the gut or in the nut? I thought the gut. Yeah. Does Stromberg get shot in the gut? Yeah, he gets shot in the chest. No, after, though.

But when he shoots through the two. I mean, I'm thinking like, if, like, I'm sitting under my desk, which is normal table height, that thing is going to hit me. Yeah. Yeah, but this wasn't normal table height. The table felt higher, didn't it? Maybe. Like it would hit a little above the belt line.

Because you got to get that in there, you know. Pee-poo, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. You'd almost feel like you'd notice that plexiglass tube when you sat down opposite him. You'd brush it with your knee. Yeah, he might have. And you'd be like, you know, if you're one of Stromberg's people, you'd be like, can we, this is making me uncomfortable. I can't enjoy my food with this tube. I feel like you're holding this over me.

Oh, I don't think you'd have the balls if you want his people. He'd go, why don't you go into my elevator? Also, couldn't you be like, listen, Stromberg, just let's make this tube half length. It's going to get there the rest of the way. It's a very slow-moving projectile, although it's not a bullet that he's shooting. What is it? It's a little subway explosion.

It's a pneumatic Home Depot tube. It's a mini version of the sidecar bomb. Yes, I expected the front of that to lift. Oh, yeah. There would be a rocket in there. Instead, they waste the entire sidecar. Yeah. Which, by the way, it reminds me,

I think that's one of the good quips of the movie is all those feathers and he still can't fly. I think that's a very good... Yes, but also. Also, like, to know that that container is shipping feathers? What is it doing? I don't know, but I like the quip. Weird when Naomi gets killed.

Do I feel weird? In the helicopter? I mean, she's trying to blatantly kill the little. I know, but they have this such a lighthearted flirtation. It's just like, oh, it's just business. No big deal. We're not going to hurt each other. Yeah, she kind of winks.

He's also escaped. He doesn't have to kill her. Oh, he does. It's true, but she's waiting. But she could just sit down there. Like, why doesn't he have to finish her? Wait, doesn't, doesn't? No, it blows her up.

in the helicopter. Doesn't Anya do it? Anya does it. She saw the plans. She saw the interplay they were having and she was jealous. She was jealous. She was like, we better get rid of this. You're right. She's going to be more trouble. Although according to Roger, that was not in the script that they were to give each other these jealous, that she gives her jealous looks. That was not written. Way to go, Barre. Brilliant improvisation. Way to go, Ms. Bach. Regular Wobbin Williams. Ms. Double R. Star. But it's true. She's very attractive, that girl.

Oh, no. Well, she is too. Carolyn Monroe. Carolyn Monroe with her little winking and... I wonder if that's really her voice. No. She was dubbed? Well, she's dubbed, but she could be dubbed with her own. Oh, no, no. The actress is credited.

The dubbing actress. But you know who I think is the most attractive female in this movie? The hotel receptionist. Hotel receptionist, Valerie Leon. Terrible, terrible dress. What? Many ruffles. Oh, I love that dress.

But those ruffles have ridges. But she can't eat just one? Oh, that's too bad. She is, enjoyed you, Jane. She's pretty gorgeous. She's pretty spectacular. Yeah. She was in other things with, I think Roger said she was on like the saint with her.

But this is the answer to our question from the Free Arise Only episode where we were talking about Gogol having already met James Bond. He had. That's right. Yeah. So it's very silly of him to reach out to get the thing, to get the decoder. Why is it silly? Like when he walks up, he doesn't even say anything. anything to James Bond.

Oh, right. Like he walks up to James Bond, who he has previously dealt with. Well, maybe he feels like he has such a rapport with him that he can just take it. All right. When Stromberg gets shot, it's a pretty gruesome death. Like, he's really acting it. Like, he just kind of like pauses and his fall down, bringing the dishes with him is good. It's pretty serious.

Yeah. I think he just wanted to get a last taste of Tabasco. He might have. Yeah. And that's the way James Bond works, right? is you kill the main villain, then the henchmen. Not always. Not always.

But often. Because they're the muscle. Like the main villain is usually not that hard. They're not physically imposing necessarily. It happens that way in man with the golden gun, live and let die. Just once I'd like to be like, I'd like a henchman to go like, oh, he's dead? All right. Well, listen.

Yeah. The deal's off then. Can I get my last paycheck? I don't want to kill you. Doesn't want someone do that? I'm thinking. a wizard of Oz. Where there's a henchman?

Well, no, but all the soldiers are like once the witch is dead. Oh, they completely put in their notices. Or Siga singing that song. Yeah, does that happen? I'd like a henchman to do that. To what? To have seen the main villain get killed him to go, all right. I'm done.

Because I like the idea of these professionals who are hired to do a job. and then when this thing doesn't It kind of happens with Jaws and Moonraker a little bit But he's betrayed at that point Well he's betrayed and that girl doesn't have braces And I guess the ultimate Jaws reference is that he goes in the water And kills Jaws He kills a shark yeah

Yeah yeah he takes a bite out of its box on us Take a bite of the shark Great hit Great hit greatest hits Greatest hit I did a greatest hits movie Where I spliced together different scenes from different films that I've done.

Oh, yeah? What was it called? Night at the Movies, a Night at the Picture Show. Presented by? No. Ivan Kajner. Ivan Kersner directs the favorite films you've already seen, and they're the same films, because I directed them. Citizen Kane, mine. The one where the moon gets hit in the eye, mine.

All of them. Journey to the moon? Journey to the Moon. Ten minute silent film was yours. Hugo. Mine. Cocoe. Mine.

Cocho. Mine. Golden Compass? Rimo Williams. Rimo. Yeah. Fletch, too? Yeah, Fletch lives.

Better than the first. I got Hal Holbrook in that great American actor. Did a hell of Mark Twain that guy. He sure did. Until Val Kilmer came along and eclipsed him at every turn. All right, let's wrap this up. Okay. All right.

Barbara Bach, we'll talk about the end of the movie, the very end. Oh. They're escaping, the sinking Atlantis. I like that little sub they get into that little pop-up. Yeah. Capsule. Yeah. He's got a Don Perignon 52 in there.

Yeah. That's on ice. Can't be all bad. Just in case. Yeah. And. So she's going to make good on her threat. She's going to make good on her threat to kill him.

But she smiles and then goes back to being serious. so she kind of diffuses it a little. Yeah. But then she goes back to being serious. And then she's concerned that their superiors might find out. James assures her, that can't possibly happen. Right. And then, oh, boy, does it ever happen?

I just love the shot of the four men leaning over and peeking down. M, Prime Minister, or no, Minister of Defense, Q, and Gogol. And Google. And Minister of Defense, who he calls Freddie. Yeah. In one life. Graves, Greaves. Yeah.

Yeah. But are we to think that she just decided she's fallen so much in love with him that she doesn't care? She's like, I can't be mad at you. Not to mention kill you. Yeah. The Spy Who Love Me, the novel was written from the point of view of the lady. Yes. And the original draft of this script was called James Bond to the spy who loved me.

And it was going to much more closely follow the book. No, I can't believe that's true because Fleming put a thing in the contract that said you can't remit. make Spy Who Loved Me. Well, then why were they going to call it James Bond, the spy who loved me? They could use the title. They just couldn't use any of the story from the book. Why would they change the name of the title then to James Bond, comma, the spy who loved me? Maybe to make it clear.

Sorry, Amazon Prime. Because maybe they didn't want the audience to think it's from Bond's perspective. But it's really from both. It really is from both. I never thought about that until just now. That's right. Irving Irvin

There's no G It's the one thing he pronounces Correctly It's very strange That and starving Marvin And even Stevening

Okay so it ends with that Keeping the British end up It's a good end Then the boys chorus Then the boys kick in And there's a show That's how you start a film And end it

It's a showstop all guns firing. I gotta go. I'll see you later. Should we rate it? We should rate it. Scale of 007, 007 being the best. I'm going, like I said, in the very beginning of this podcast,

straight down the middle, 203.5. I'm going to have to bump it a half point because it is it is the most formulaic of the Roger Moore James Bond movies. And none of the parts of it are terrible. So it's going to get a 004 for me. Yeah, none of the parts are terrible,

but none of the parts are truly great either. So that's where it puts it in the middle for me, James. You're going to bring this average up. I'm going to bring it up. You can do what you need to do. Okay. I'm thinking I'm going to give it. What did you give it?

204. Four. Okay. I'm going to give it. Zada 7 Zada 7 I'm going to give it a

005.9 Wow Yeah You don't want to go full 6 No I want to leave myself A little wiggle room For later

For Operation Kid Brother For Operation Kid Brother Okay Connery That's the other title for it right Or Operation Kid Brother Wait is that what you just said They're the same movie right They have two different titles

But I was also called Double O7 It's like three different titles of this thing. Wow. They couldn't decide. They knew what they were doing. Okay. Yeah.

Well, two weeks from now we'll be doing Dr. No. That's right. It's the last before we get to the final two Craigs. Two Craigs. But we still got to do Never Say Never Again, too. Oh, really? Are you finally going to cover it? We did it last time.

Oh, you did. It's rare that Matt is around when the dead person is speaking. I'm not dead. It was all, you know. Elvis, me and Elvis and the moon. It was all you and Elvis in the moon. And the Twin Towers, we were never dead. All right.

Loose change. Check it out on YouTube. Loose change, YouTube. Oh. Anyway, I'll be on Info Wars with Alex Jones next week if you want to check that out. I'm in the intellectual dark web trading cryptocurrencies and all that. I started my own called the Kersner's. If you want to pick those up, they're,

How much is a Kirshner worth? It's worth 300 bits. 300 bit by Bitcoins? Bitbots. Boop-boop. That's worth that. I gotta go. Thank you for stopping by, Irvin.

I've already left. No time. He's out of the door. To chat. He's still yelling in. Got a date. Can't be late. The girl is going to do me.

Big poison fan. Always have been. Or a Bellevieve DeVoe. But that song's called Poison. But I do like the band Poison as well. It used to be in it. Fred Michaels. I directed all their videos.

You directed those videos? Sure, I did. Did you do any work with Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony? Hell, I'm one of the Tonys. Are you? Yeah. I did their song, EGOT, EGOT. I like to imagine that there's not a piece of video footage that has been made in the last 45 years.

I did it all. He has not had a hand in. I did it all. Saved by the bell of the college years. Uh-huh. Return of the Munsters, a very Brady sequel. Done it all. And Archie's Place.

Archie's Place. Yeah, Archie's place was a good time. Gilligan's Planet? Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. All right, I really got to go.

Gilligan. Please don't leave, Irvin. I've got to go. go, I'm direct directing the new solo movie. The one that's already out. Well, it's a live direction, so when you see it in the film,

you'll be directing it live. Then you've got to get out there and finish up Ant Man and the Wasp. That's right, I do. Yep. All right. I got to get out there, do that. And I'm rebooting Condor Man.

That's screaming for a reboot. Yeah, scream and reboot. Screaming for it. That's just going to be a new thing called a scream and reboot. All right. Irv, thanks so much for stopping by. Actually, I decided I could stay.

I canceled some things. You're blocking someone in, Irv, and they want you to move your car. Oh, my Tesla? Your Tesla. With Elon, I'm wearing a new perfume called Elon's Musk. Maybe you feel the pheromones. It's very strong.

Yeah. Yeah, we feel it over here. All right, I do got to go in about two hours. Oh. So if you want to keep rolling, that's fine. Is that PayPal, I smell? Where are we at timewise on this one, guys? 142.

Not even close. Not even close. To our longest episode. What happened? I felt like we started off so strong. We did, and then we got middle of the road, then we got tired. That's right. Maybe it was.

Well, James, do you have anything to plug? Do you have anything to unplug? You know I don't come on here for plugging. Yeah, you come on for pleasure. I don't know. This is so important. I don't know. talking for

for clapping what's that you don't know that no that's the John Wayne tape when he's drunk oh right yeah yeah it's so good you gotta control it

I don't do it John Wayne I'm the one person who doesn't it's not bad John Wayne drunk well you don't do a Carrie Grant either so I don't do that either but

I John Wayne that's oh wow you know pale peanut butter. I roost a carbine. I got true grit. True quit. Me cue.

Okay, we gotta go. Gary has to go now. I can't go. I'm sorry. I mean John Wayne. William Wayne is what he's. Listen to the tape. All right.

Thank you. Guys, we're going out strong. Oh, what am I plugging? Nothing. All right. Yeah. James, you can hear him on a number of wonderful podcast featuring Mag Gourley and or myself.

That's right. Yeah. All right. And James Bonding. We'll return right now when we keep this going. And we are back. That's right. Act two.

All right, guys. Let's talk about it. Dr. No, the first one. Doctor, yes. Dr. No and patient, yes. All right. We really got to go. I'm having a surgery this afternoon.

No, it's a good, it's a hobby. Is it a live surgery? It's a live surgery? It's a live surgery. surgery. Wow. Yeah. It's a surgery date.

You're going to be directing the doctors? Yes, me and my honey are having a dual surgery. We're getting... Your honey? Yes. Who are you seeing now? Honey. You're seeing the viscous liquid honey?

A jar of Lulu Bee honey. All right. I do have to go. All right. James Bonding. Well, return. Hey, this is Arnie Neckhamp. from the Improft Fantasy podcast Hello from the Magic Tavern.

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