James Bonding - Thunderball with Scott Mosier

Episode Date: November 16, 2022

Scott Mosier sits down with the Matts to discuss and dissect Thunderball! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Now entering nerdist.com. Hey everybody, welcome to O-O-something. What episode is this? This is 007. Holy shit! Yes. I am so excited.

Oh my gosh. And this is one that we're recording close to its air date because we've fallen so far behind. Yep, extremely close to its air date. And this is kind of a crossover. This is the first time Scott Mojur and I have ever been on a podcast that wasn't Fib together.

Really? Welcome. Is that my moment? I didn't know about it. I was going to get a bigger, a better intro than... Ladies and gentlemen, you might know him. One of the producers of the wonderful documentary band called Death, available on Blu-ray,

currently, now playing in some cities. Hang on, I'm plugging. We plug everybody. I'm going to plug your shit. You can also catch... This comes out this Thursday, which is October 17th, I think. You're asking a lot of me.

And if you just wait a little bit, You can go to the theaters and see a movie that this guy worked on called Free Birds. Yeah, November 1st. He went in there, did some writing on it. They were like, Scott, we need your help so badly. Now you have a writing credit on this. I do. Exactly.

Finally, somebody needed it that badly. Listeners of James Bonney, I don't know what kind of a crossover there is with the Feeb audience. I'm guessing not much. Hey, me partially. How about that? Thank you. Scott and I have discussed Thunderball on the old Feeb. We did. Not well. We didn't look down on it

too much, but we actually kind of hear it. Yeah, let me get straight on this. Yeah, go ahead. I know you and I are, we're lukewarm at best on this film. Yeah. And what about you, Scott? Oh, my God. I have to say, this is when I watched it yesterday. And so I went on iTunes and I grabbed it. And my first thing was like, it's 130 minutes. Yeah. I was like, why? Yeah.

Why? How could it be that long? It's 130 long. Let me ask this. It's already long minutes. Was there any... And it's never exciting once. I know.

Did any of us not find it a chore? This is weird because, you know, maybe second only to On Her Majesty's Secret Service, I find this to be one of the most polarizing bond films. You love it or you hate it. Yeah. Because I feel like already there's been a bunch of people tweeting at us saying, I can't wait for Thunderball. I love that film. I love that film.

Oh, we are going to tell them what that is. We're going to let them know what's up. I do not. I did not write down awesome. In the way that... Well, I mean, some of those boobs. I will say that. I did say that to that.

The women are fantastic. I say great boobs. Great boobs in the film. There's a lot of... And, like, they're sizable. Yeah. Yeah. So definitely, like...

I feel like that's what Cubby was into, right? Yeah, they have their own sort of physics. They blew all the money on boobs. Yeah. In the way that our Amanda and Maria episode contrasts with the Allie and Georgia, this will contrasts. the Casino Royale episode because that was a huge love fest last time and this will probably be

a little bit of a yeah we love Matt and I love James Bond but we're realists about it like we understand when stuff doesn't fly Scott I'm not I'm not that I mean I like I haven't watched one of the older ones in a while it makes it doesn't make you want to go back and watch some of the other ones this is something we ask

holy shit we ask all uh can I just say too that this is we're entering a really tough time for me these lesser conneries and then the Brosnan's I don't know I'm going to make it through this. You know, that's the way our schedule is going. I am dreading.

It's going to be a rough few weeks. I'm dreading. I'm dreading. It was really rough. Like, I would watch a scene. I was like, why is this happening? And then I'd be like, like, there's a sea where he's like. It just, it really, really felt like a movie that was like, that, remember how Robert

Rodriguez made El Mariachi? And it was like, I got a turtle and a bus and a gun. Yeah. It was just like, this is what we can do. We got an underwater camera, a helicopter, some ship, some shirt, and a jet, Some sharks and a jetpack. I also love that they... I'm assuming, and I didn't read up on it at all,

but they're really killing sharks. It is. It's like an episode of Chopped. They give you a certain amount of agreements instead of make a movie. It's like the 24-hour film festival. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's like the opening scene is like... I didn't even understand what was going on.

He's out of funeral. And the next thing you know, he goes to this house. And then it's like... And I'm used to, James... You know, the new movies are just like parkour and fucking... Like crazy shit. And this one is just like, we got a room, we got some old furniture, a vase. And a guy that's got to play a lady.

A guy and a frock. Because it just keeps cutting to them going like throwing things at each other. In high speed. Let's think about this. Well, first of all, we like to ask all our guests, what was your first James Bond movie? What did you see first? What was the first one? I remember I saw Octopus in the theater.

That was my first in the theater. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the first one I saw in the theater. That was you? That was me. My God. Yeah.

Our first hand job and our first James. Anonymous hand jobs. He was playing at the Pussy Cat Theater, the Octopus Cat Theater. And I was in a raincoat. Really special. I'm like, God. Wow. Closure with Mosier.

Why is that 10-year-old in a raincoat? Oh, I don't know. Because I had to come in on his shoulders. Because I looked like a... Like an adult. How old are you? And I was just pants up to my neck. How old are he's got?

I'm 42. Oh, okay. I'm 40, so we're, yeah. Yeah. Old, fucking, Jesus, guys. Come on. What was your first? My octopus was the first one I saw the theater.

And I pretty much think I saw quite a few in the theater. The first one I ever saw in the theater, I think, was Golden Eye. Oh, wow. Yeah. That was before, what do you call? it right um the never say never again which yeah well that was the same that was the year right it was the same year oh yeah so i saw them both in the yeah yeah i guess i must have too but that one came out later right octopacy came out first yeah yeah yeah and beat it in the box office that's right

which we'll we'll get to uh when we eventually do never say never we should settle that because that's been the most asked question we will of course we're doing it it probably is a bonus episode on a show show and in any way shape or form we will cover it it's just our duty as James Bonding hosts. So you saw Octopussy. Did you love it? Did you hate it? I liked it.

I remember the advertisement series in that little plane. He flies the hair and like it actually had exciting moments. It did. I love that movie. It is so much more exciting than this movie. Thunderball is very interesting. It's the James Bond movie right after the, what some will call the quintessential James Bond movie. Golden Finger, Gold Finger.

Golden finger Golden finger No so it's right after gold finger So a huge success Movies crazy big I did read that this movie In 1965 Turned a profit of

25.5 million dollars Wow Yeah it was the biggest grossing bond film Until Skyfall right? Yes That's crazy Get the fuck out of here And the next closest movie

Profit-Wise that year was Dr. Zavago. Oh my God. And that made like $6 million. What did Thunderball make? It made 26 profit, $26 million profit. Jesus. Wow.

Isn't that insane? And yet it's... Of course Connery's pissed off. They didn't give him a fucking raise. All right, yeah, now I'm starting to see it. Of course he is. After that one or before that one? Ever.

They never gave him a raise. They never gave him a raise. They just had him on the same contract. And that's why he was like, fuck you guys. And then that's why they had to pay him a million dollars for diamonds or forever. And then he was like, well, I'm just, gonna give us the tray of me because fuck you guys yeah oh wow

you can see his you can see his like disdain for those franchise happen in fact because I was so bored with Thunderball I made a graph so this is my how my interest in the Connery Bond films relates to Sean Connery's

interest in being in them all right doctor no he's fresh exciting me too yeah it's fresh and exciting it's kind of cool it's new he's from Russia with love oh he's really found his stride. He's still fresh, but he's got some confidence. Me too. Goldfinger, top of his game. He's loving it. He's just having a good time. Me too. Thunderball. Big dip. Been there, done that. Dips.

You only live twice? Huge. Same with me. Couldn't be interested at all. Diamonds are forever. He is maybe walking dead. He couldn't care less. Conversely, my interest shoots and sky rockets up. Because he's so indifferent? Because the movie's so bad, it's one of my favorite. Oh, I love it. It really is. That might be my most rewatch, James Bond. Same here. Diamonds. I remember, I haven't seen it on a long time. Yeah.

There's a lot going on. Plus, you get to see his ass. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, there's something we should talk about with this movie. It's got to be the worst screen toupee I've ever seen. Yeah, it's pretty bad.

His? Yeah. Yeah. Right? It wasn't that good. I mean, I wasn't, the amount of details that I found so much more distracted. That's the least. Like, from, from, like, it was, it was, there was like a ceiling on everything.

It was like when he escaped. He beats the guy up, and I still don't know why he beats the guy up in the parlor in the dress. I'm not exactly sure. And he climbs on the roof, he puts on the jetpack to fly 10 feet. Well, I mean, how else are you going to get over the wall? He could have flown over, like, Buckingham Palace. He could have gone down a drain pipe. He could have, yeah, he could have, like, flown to M's office.

My favorite thing in that scene is when he uses those reverse water cannons, and it hits two of the guys, but one guy's a good three feet away, but he's already doing this like I'm hit by water. Oh, my God. He sidels over. into the water. Totally. I was watching that too

and I was like fucking right water hoses? Yeah, I'm like, just shoot him. Yeah, why not? You have a license to kill you got like riot control hoses. I have a license to hose.

Also, at what point does Q add that to the R cell and we asked Martin? When does he think, you know what we might need? This car. This car that has machine guns.

It's when it's in his personal storage unit in London, Matt. I don't know. The actors were like, I could not stop laughing Because it seemed like they were all not trying to, like, all you had to do is step a foot in either direction to evade. Or not, if you're the one guy, don't walk into the water. But they were all just like flailing their arms and like running right into it.

I think it was not a strong beginning. Apparently the water hose was the crowd control method of choice in the 60s. Yeah, we know. They were trying to be topical. Also, there's a couple things that really bother me. And this is the first instance of it in the movie. When he lands the jetpack, I mean, I've seen it in the behind the scenes thing when he grabs the cooling tubes on the jetpack. And the guy who actually flew the jetpack laughs at that scene because his hands would just burn off if he grabbed the jetpack like that.

So he throws in the trunk, the bulletproof screen comes up. But they weren't quite sure what the location dirt would look like. So they just put orange dirt on the back of the Aston Martin. It annoyed the shit out of me. I was like, what is this orange dirt? Yeah. And then it's as orange as the blood is red when he gets shot in the leg. Oh.

Oh, yeah. It's so ridiculous. I did write furniture fight. Super boring. I wrote, let me pull out my thunder notes. I like to add notes to the title of any James Bond movie, want to make notes. It's really exciting.

It makes the experience. Yeah. It makes me feel better about myself. Here we go. Here we go. First note I wrote down. Yeah. He stops to throw flowers on the dead person.

After he's beaten the lady dress man. Oh, he kills it. He like breaks his neck. Yeah. And on the way out. For no reason other than the guy was impersonating a woman. That was frowned on. He did fight that.

Really. Yeah, we're still a few, like five years from Python. Gotcha. It wasn't that well documented. But he stops to. He doubled. he stops, goes back, grabs the flowers, and then, like, just...

Okay, so yeah, he stops to throw the flowers and escape for his life. Jetpack happens, great. Now, my notes stopped. This movie, I found the hardest to keep attention. But the scene where he calls... Okay, so he gets hurt, right? Like, this is why he ends up

at the Thunderball place? Wait, are we moving ahead this quickly? Where are we? Well, I got some notes about this opening. Please, go, man. I mean, the opening is awful. Is it maybe the worst opening in a Bond film? Or at least just the least dynamic, even with the...

Even with a jet pack? Yeah. I wrote down... Even with a real-life jetpack? Yes. I wrote down... But it's a jet pack is like... It's two feet. He goes two feet.

Yeah. He should at least be trying to get to the top of a building or something. Yeah. Use it. I wrote down, why is he fighting Jackie? lemon and some like it hot and they go under crank crazy on that camera everything sped up and oh there's tons in the movie yeah boat oh god there's so much under cranking but there's weird shit too or it's just like wide shots of people walking and i was like going i'm like i'm so glad

it's going by faster yeah but like why like why is everybody suddenly like moving quickly yeah it was weird it's crazy what if they had had it at original like at regular speed and then someone at the studio was like, we need this under 130 minutes. And they're like, we're not cutting anything. Speed up the footage. That's the other thing, too. Every time, and I wish I had downloaded the soundtrack to this movie, but every time they go

underwater, even at the end battle, they just play the most soothing music. I can speak to this. And they do that. And they do that. Badaam, bum. Yeah.

Bamb bump. Because that was the original theme song called Mr. Kiss Kiss, Kiss Bang Bang, and Dionne Warwick sang this song. And Cubby Broccoli goes, where's Thunderball? There's no mention of the word Thunderball. And they're like, we got to have a song that says Thunderball. So they ditch the song and then did Thunderball with Tom Jones. Nicely. Was it going to be titled Kiss Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Man?

No, it was always going to be titled Thunderball. The song was called Mr. Kiss. The club they ended up is the Kiss Kiss Kiss. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That would have been a better title. It's a better movie. It's only like one.

Yes, it's true. Isn't it just the moment where he's like, Operation. Yeah. That's the bad guy. That's the bad guy. Yeah. Oh, I don't care. I just like doing his voice.

100 million pounds sterling. 100 million pounds sterling. Okay. So he gets hurt, presumably. Who's the girl with him? I don't know. She's French, I believe. I thought she was French.

Yeah. Oh, I was completely. I'm talking about at the very beginning. Oh, she's Asian, right? Isn't she Asian? Who the fuck knows? Just the fact that we don't know. There's no information coming out of that opening.

You don't know who the funerals, initials are J.B. I remember that. Yeah, I thought it was supposed to be people coming to James Bond's funeral? No. I think you're meant to think that just for a second, and they pan up to the balcony and he says he has the same initials as you. I don't make it. And a really bad camera move.

Holy shit. Yeah. Like the clunkiest camera move ever. This isn't anything anybody needs to email in and explain. We're asking this rhetorically. We almost don't want to know because it's just... It's not going to make the movie better. Yeah, it really isn't.

I'm sure there's an explanation for what to see means. Somebody should take fucking Thunderball and do a recut. You could recut that movie into like 90 minutes. Oh, you can make it a nice, quick. Yeah. 120. Although you can't do anything with like a fucking moment of just two armies of... Two armies of slow moving...

people. Oh my God. I fast-forwarded that. And when I looked up on the screen as it's fast-boarding, I'm like, well, this is still moving a little slow. That's amazing. I couldn't believe it. As they're parachuting into this thing, because it had been 10 years since I've seen Thunderball. Oh, really?

Yeah, it had been about 10 years. Like, when I first got the DVD of it, I watched it. And I was like, that's that. Thanks. So it had been a while. And I actually completely forgot about all the people parachuting in. Yeah. I saw in the theaters about 10 years ago, and I have to say it was much better.

Much better. Really? Yeah, I don't know how that happened. Better in the theater? I don't. Probably because of the hand job. That's right. He was there. I'm always there.

You need a handy. Just think of me. If you're in a theater, even if you don't want it, I'm there. If you say mojure three times, he appears with his hand already on your dick somehow. My hand job, Jeannie. We didn't even have a guest for today. And we just, actually came up three times.

And there he was. We didn't record the hand job part. Okay. So now he has to, he ends up at a place. Now, this makes more sense, much more sense in Never Say Never Again. Where he has to go.

He ends up at a facility for... Sanitarium. Yeah, because he's a little older. Yeah. Yeah, he's getting, yeah. He ends up at a sanitarium. Too many free radicals. Yeah, with Dr. Hackenburg.

Oh, geez. But before that, they do you reveal, it goes right to the bad guy, right? goes the titles and then it goes to the guy pulls up the guy pulls up on the street he parks his car and then the cops like oh sorry you can't and they're like oh of course you can park like the guy's like you're a bad guy

to establish that he's really powerful he's allowed to park wherever he wants that's the most powerful people do you know and then he walks through that like insurance oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you just reminded me of the scene you're talking about because I've forgotten everything about this movie in the last six hours well this is the first ever thing that they'll repeat

many times well they'll Chester will chastise someone and you think they're going to die and they kill the guy next to you

oh no they did it in for much it was loved yeah yeah it's always a misdirect with the specter is the guy because I'm not

that familiar is a guy who like there's that then they goes in that scene and then there's the bad guy

with the cat who's like sitting behind like what looks like a garage door opener that broke yeah yeah

that's exactly what it is that's exactly what it is like well we can't afford to fix the motor so this is perfect it was just so weird. It wasn't even like it was

an interesting screen. It just looked like it was like starting the meeting and he was rolling it up and then it was like what's strange about it too is that we've seen Blofeld right? We saw him in from Russia with love. I had no idea. No, you never see his face.

What? You don't show his face because it's the guy who plays Professor Dent that plays him in that movie. You don't see his face until... Until the next one. Yeah, Donald Pleasance. Until what, Donald Pleasance. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever see the dude's face?

Yeah. Yeah. And the next one. And Diamonds are Forever. And... On her majesty's secret service. When does he die? In not until for your eyes only.

Oh, wow. No cold opening of that. He does not die until the last episode of this podcast. That's right. By the way, that room that they're recording, what they're doing their Spectre meeting in, is if you're listening to this, that's what the room looks like where we record our podcast. Yeah. Exactly like that.

Katie actually is behind the little... She has all the buttons. You can castize Matt and then kill me. Yeah. So opening titles and songs, do we need to say anything about it? I mean, I love a good Tom Jones. I love the opening titles are fun. Yeah, they're cool.

Yeah. I love, by the way, watching this movie to the completion. I do think the song was a little grasping. Oh, yeah. Like, it was one of those rhyme things where it's like, what rhymes is ball? Oh, yeah. It was like anything to kind of throw it together. But it wasn't that bad.

I mean, it was a legend has it to that Tom Jones fainted on that last note that he had to hold. Really? Yeah, that's the story. Do you know that Johnny Cash recorded and submitted a song? I do. I own it. It's unbelievable. Is it Thunderball?

Wait, what? You don't know? The recording exists? Yeah, I'll bring it up right now. Oh, we are in for a treat listeners. It is as country and Johnny Cash as you can be, but with some trumpets and horns in it. Oh, God. But is it like it's Thunderball?

It's something, it wasn't he. even something they approached him about. It's like, I want to write a song for Jim Bon. I like James Bond and... I want to do Thunderball. Hold on. Here comes. I've got a bunch of unreleased Bond songs.

I'm extremely excited about this. Okay, here we go. Ready? So far... It's pretty awesome. I fucking love this. Oh, fuck yeah! It's so spaghetti western.

It is. mighty thunderball I love this that's amazing since now has drowned in the sea is he referencing what the day that's from within her

is somewhere running free I don't think he knows what it's about unless he read the book or something Thunderball your fiery breath can burn the coldest man and who is going to suffer from the power in your hand

I love this. Where there is a man. Okay, I'm gonna transition us to a little bit of Mr. KisKisband. Oh, please. Here we go. Bondi. I think I've heard this. This is some struggling rhymes too, you'll hear it.

Also, there's like 40-second intro. I don't have a problem with that. I like when they reference themselves. I see how long this goes on before she sings. This is like Thunderball. Yeah. Would have been perfect Oh my gosh

He's tall And he's dark And like a shock He looks for trouble That's why the zeros double Mr. Kiss Kiss Kiss It sounds like Dr. Seuss

Yeah, it really does It sounds too soon I love this I've heard this I've heard this I have not heard this. I have everything Dionne Warwick covered in. Here's what we're going to do from now on.

We'll do a segment that if the movie has an alternate song, I'll play it. All right, because there's a lot. Uh, like every day. I want to hear this. When does she say kiss kiss kiss bang man? She does. Mr. Here, right here.

Right here. Mr. Kiss, kiss, bang, bang. And then hit us with Tom. I'm going to give you goldfingers since we've already done that. Oh, this is an alternate goldfinger? Yeah, but it wasn't proposed for the movie. It's just Anthony Newley doing a version of... So he was so inspired by the movie that he decided to write his own.

I think, didn't he have something to do with writing a song or something? The man with the Midas Touch. I like this. And he laughs at one point in it. That's real boppy when you hear stuff. Oh, I like that time signature change real quick there. Beckons you to enter his web of sin. Oh.

I don't do it. Scott is great. Good. Oh. Scott's rarely seen me be this happy about something. All right. I'll fade it out. But there'll be more of that to come.

Hit us with Tom Jones. Oh, you went to Tom Jones? Oh, you want to the legit thunderball, just so we can get a little context for the average listener who maybe hasn't turned on the movie in a while. Okay, one second. Just play it a double speed.

I should say, for the lucky listener who hasn't turned on the movie. I actually, it's, it's, It's a strange watch. There's some pretty weird stuff. Tom Jones is quite the Welshman. Is that a compliment or? I think it's a compliment. I like whales.

Their alphabet's great. So while this is happening in the movie, you're seeing underwater ladies getting a hint that most of the movie's going to be underwater. Yeah. Which they say the word a lot. Which? Underwater.

They go like, turn on the underwater lights. Yeah, they want you. The underwater landing lights. I'm like, what? Why would you say that? Open the underwater hatch. This camera shoots underwater, James. A totally random thing, which is nothing to do, James Bond.

In one of the scenes was the guy who was in The Shining, who plays the guy who kills his family. Oh, yeah. The bartender guy? Yeah. The guy who was the innkeeper before him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. the movie. Oh,

shit, Grady's in the movie, yeah. Oh, not the bartender, the guy that wipes him off in the bathroom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow. Yes. Grady is in the movie. Is he one of the bad guys? Or is he at the... What is he? No, he popped up in something else, too,

recently. He's somewhere in there. I was super excited. Yeah. This guy gets excited when anyone from the Shining Shows that's like, that's why his favorite

Rob and Lee's movie is Papa. It's true. Oh, I love Papa. So do I. I. So do I Don't get me started about Popeye

Okay, so here's This now, so now he's At this retreat Sanatorium, whatever the fuck we'll call it Getting Get some traction happening The machine that Scott didn't care for And

That was so weird Doing in there Because and it's undercranked again Well the POV Of like First of like his POV turn of Yeah Like thrusting towards the clock?

Both of you gentlemen. Have either of you been in traction? No. No. Okay. And I don't imagine that it's a machine that simulates humping. I have been. I don't believe that I've ever.

I've been in traction. Also, there are only four movies in. They haven't run out of clever ways to kill James Bond. You don't have to put them in a sex stretch death machine. Sex stretch death machine is the greatest metal band name ever. But then it's like, all it is is like a hand, a random hand comes in and cranks it up. Yeah. And then he starts.

Humping and the whole time he's going like, hey, and he's like really upset, and then he blacks out. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then the woman's like, oh, my gosh, she could have died. He doesn't even save himself. Let's just say this. This is, this happens after he tries to rape her initially.

He's really raping. Right. Well, he extorts sex from her by not after the attempted rape. She saves her his life. Yeah. And his reward for her is to extort her into sex. then I better not say anything. It's good if we didn't have Allie and Georgia on this episode.

He kisses her and she goes, I'm not into that. She puts him on the traction machine. He's like, he's traction to the point of blacking out, apparently. And then he wakes up and he's fine. And then the girl's like, oh, my God, I'm sorry. And he's like, I won't tell my boss if you fuck me. Yeah. Right now.

Oh, my God. That is a serious HR complaint. And then it's like it cuts him walking out of the door and goes, see you later. That's the worst part. He just so dismissive. Yes. Yes. So fucked up.

He almost rolls his eyes. Also, we're skipping over the scene where he sees that some shit's going down at this place he's at. Just happens to be there. He just going down. He picks up the phone. He calls up Money Penny. Money Penny at first is like just playing around with him a little bit. And then he threatens to spank Money Penny by saying I'll put you over my knee.

And then Money Penny suggests that it would be on yogurt and lemon juice. What the fuck? does that mean? No, no, no. She says, what she said was he probably doesn't have this, like he, because he's living on yogurt and lemon juice. He wouldn't, he's not the James Bond of, you know, steak and whatever the fuck he eats, where he would be able to spank her properly.

I was playing solitaire at this point. Wrong movie. No, she was sort of saying, she was playing back with him going like, well, now that you're eating lemons and fucking yogurt, you're not man enough to spank me. And he's like, oh, yeah, well, I'm going to go force a woman to have sex with me. Oh, my God. Yeah, this is, I think this is the height of James Bond rapiness. Yeah, I think you're right.

This movie really, really stuck out like a swarthom. Yeah, I think you're right. In fact, I was watching this through the lulls and through that weird stuff. I had a realization that I may actually prefer Never Say Never over this movie. Well, I was thinking that, too, and I look forward to revisiting it. I haven't seen Never Say Never again since it was on HBO in the late 80s. like that's the last time I saw it I haven't seen it since the theater

oh that was yeah yeah yeah I remember it's always 30 years ago guys that's why I love that movie okay so he does some James Bond investigating he sneaks into this room right the guy he's like oh god the guy's coming I'll hide behind this door pull out my gun

guy's not gonna see me and the guy goes into the other room and then he's like I better get out of here quick but stops for a grape this is the second time he stops He does something unnecessary. I am just so annoyed with this. And then I wrote my next note was,

yes, this is the rapiest movie of all time. And do you think the fire alarm that he hits on the way out? Maybe next to Cape Fear. Let's delete. I don't know. Okay. I would put those two together. Rape fear. This is, it's more, it's not even about the rape.

It's about like he basically has adopted the attitude of just like, I don't care what you say to me. It's like women are like a dog whistle. He just doesn't hear it. And he's just like, I'm going to have sex with you. Yeah. Yeah. He's so, like, just like,

is this, he disregards him so much? Is this the, is this the James Bond that is born after Vesper? Is this what happens to him? It must be. Yeah. Who's Vesper? Vesper from Casino Royale. Okay.

Screws him over. The woman he falls in love with. Okay. So it's a reaction. Like, because I feel like he gets super, super rapy, and then he meets Tracy, and then his rapy subsides. Right.

Right. So this is the rape years? Yeah, I think these are the rapy years for James Bond. I have to bring up the mink. The mink love, yes. The mink love.

Because it reduces tensions. Oh, I know. I remember from the theater, man. Oh, my God. It would be a great hand job. We should do it. And now the main tangent. Katie, just don't tell anything.

There's a 645 gravity playing over at the Americana. Doesn't matter. Do you see it yet? Yeah, have, yeah. I haven't seen it yet. Have you seen it? I haven't seen it. We have to see it.

Yeah. You guys are going to have a great time. Yeah, we will. Okay, so this is now the plot. The plot of this movie sort of starts to take shape. And I use the word plot loosely. It's a very thin plot to this movie. Well, should we talk about that?

That whole plot that Kevin McClory, they'll bet that big controversy. We kind of, or do you want to save it for never say never? Because it's got to be addressed or else we're just not doing our joke. Okay, here's the deal with this movie. Scott, are you familiar with the legal troubles of this movie? The legal woes. Thunderball?

Yeah. No. Somebody sued them for... This is a lawsuit that went on from 1966 until 2006. Okay. Yeah, 40-year lawsuit. Yeah. Oh, wow.

They kept going back and forth and back and forth. It's appropriate that it's Thunderball that it took that long. Yeah. Folks, so Kevin McClory Was a gentleman who helped Ian Fleming Come up with the story for Thunderball Because they were writing a screenplay Because they were trying to write a teleplay

Teleplay, really? And then there's a third guy too Yeah, John Was Thunderball a book? Thunderball, no, it was not a book initially. Gotcha. It was just done under the guise of Let's make a screenplay about James Bond.

Let's try and get this to work because Casino Royale had happened. The CBS Casino Royale, and they, no one enjoyed that. So they were like, let's try, this is before Dr. No, they're like, let's try and get a story down that would be good for a movie. So the three of them came up with this. The idea gets scrapped of doing that screenplay, and they're like, meh, let's do whatever. Fuck. Okay. So then Ian Fleming's like, well, I need to write another book.

No, it was. Well, I say. I need to write another book. the book. Perhaps if I just what's this? I had a golden typewriter. I'm not a megalomaniac at all. No. Perhaps if I just put this next to my walking

sticks. Ah, yes. Thunderball. Then on to chite, shite bang, bang. Written by Ian Fleming only. I see, I put only there. It's pronounced iron flaming. Don't you see?

He writes Thunderball, which is essentially the story. that they all came up with together and releases it as a novel. Gotcha. Prior to the movie. Prior to the movie coming out. Kevin McClory sees that.

Other guys sees that and they go, uh-uh. And, you know, I see where they're coming from. Of course. Lawsuit. The guys at Eon Productions,

they want to make Thunderball be the first movie. The plan is to make Thunderball the first James Bond movie. But they're like, oh, fuck, this is happening with this lawsuit. Let's do something else.

But even when Thunderball comes around in a movie And all of the features I've watched I get the feeling like They're like you know Will this be a problem? Ian? No, absolutely not I can't see why any problem at all

Um I just was a story I was there I heard the story I wrote it down As far as how the story Would you like a cigar? Yes Uh

So they make Kevin McClory Exactly So yeah well here's what happens So James Bond huge success Dr. No happens Gollfinger happens Blah blah blah they're like we'd really like to do thunderball

I don't want the chance of this Kevin McClory character going off and making his own Thunderball so we'll bring him in we'll be the executive producers this is Albert and Cubby Broccoli and Saltsman we'll bring him in as a producer this will kind of shut him up

we'll pay him some money we'll get this movie made yeah that'll be that I think it was like a 10 year yes he couldn't touch it he couldn't do anything with it for 10 years after they made that movie.

Which also seems weird where they're like just, I'm sure, 10 years no one's ever going to... Yeah, James Bond's not going to be viable by then? We'll be dead by then. There's no way. So, uh, Thunderball comes out. It does really well. It does extraordinarily well.

I'm sure it made Kevin fairly wealthy. I'm sure it made the broccoli's more wealthy and Saltsman. But, uh, this guy doesn't go away after 10 years. 10 years happens. He goes, well, Now I can do it again. His Thunderball again. They decide to sue him again.

Rigomer roll, judge rules. You know what? McLaurie, you did come up with a story. You can use it. You own the story of Thunderball. And some of these characters like Blofeld. Yeah, Blofeld. Specter.

That's why we haven't seen Spector again pop up, really. Gotcha. After that tenure. But he couldn't use James Bond. He could. That's the crazy thing. He gets the rights to anything in the story. Yep.

He doesn't get exclusive rights to buy. Yeah. So, here's what happens now. Some more legal fighting. This is now, so 10 years after this is be 1975, then that's when Kevin McClory decides I'm going to do my own movie. And then there's some bullshit legal shit happening. And then finally a judge says, yeah, you can do it.

You can make your own movie. And then he goes out and gets John Connery to be in it, and that becomes Never Say Never Again. And at this point, Sean, Connery, I think, is basically like, fuck broccoli and saltmen. They've screwed me. I'm going to do this. What was it?

He said on Carson? When Carson said, what's your favorite? Who's your favorite Bond villain? Sean Connery said, Cubby Broccoli. Whoa. Shot's fired. Because of money. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I look at it, like, the whole time, I think that it just should have, they should have paid him. Yeah. They want to keep him around. They should have paid him. I mean, they were all making. much money

that they wouldn't have done anything and they were just basically like we don't have to pay you sign different because they seem to take care of their own I don't know I'm wondering if he just kind of was if he rub them the wrong way or something because they would they would take care of everybody so well and I don't know we may never know we might never know it depends some people will take care of people as long as they don't ask for it

yeah sorry I'm pointing at you is it me you're referring to geez that explains a lot of the movie theater i sat next to the movie theater and i never asked for anything i just had a lot you've dealt with difficult actors as a producer this is it to this to when you're doing that when you're in your brain are you like well fuck you i'm never working with you again i mean if they're is their hard if they're bad enough yeah like yeah you'll definitely be like i don't want to deal with it you know it's like why the headache i mean they might have also been like

which you know you could look at today with batman or whatever it's like they might have been like fuck you we don't need you like James Bond is a is an idea but I feel like opposed to be this and actual they did do that I feel like this was sort of the lesson I feel like this sort of paved the way of like maybe it's not a terrible idea to renegotiate with these actors and I think that's sort of what led to like what we have now at the Robert Donnie Jr. situation of like yeah we'll give you nothing for the first movie but you renegotiate sure we'll pay you because we need you in this movie because people need to see you and I think that's sort of what hurt I would

love to have seen it on her majesty's secret service with Sean Connery in it. Oh wow. Because that script is great. Yeah. Yeah. And I would love to have seen him in that movie because I think he earned the right to... But he might have at that point been like like, fuck you, you gotta pay me like an assload of money. Well, he did get a million dollars for... A million two. $1.2 million for Diamonds or Forever, which is

1971. Was he basically just... When he was done, was he done? Or he's just like, I don't want to do this. anymore. He was being mobbed in Japan like crazy during you only lived twice. Yeah, I think the problem was that they shot it in Japan. Maybe. And you know. You blame it on the Japanese. Well, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, that's

number one. I mean, hello kitty? Japanese people. What's the studio? Sean Connery retiring from James Bond. There's a studio that's kind of responsible for getting him back that he really liked Connery and was kind of couldn't understand what the... The United Artists

guy, right? David something. The guy in all those documentaries. But he didn't really speak, Connery didn't really speak to the producers much on Diamonds of Forever because he was so sick of dealing with him. Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting tale,

and a lot of it's sort of explained nicely in the Everything or Nothing documentary. Yeah, it is. It's a good watch. It might be on Netflix right now still. It is. But it's really an interesting watch, because they even cover the whole Thunderball thing. Oh, the lawsuit.

Yeah. So in 2006, anyway, that finally, got resolved and Eon bought it, correct? And they somehow ended up with the casino royale rights, too. Was that the same suit? Yeah. I don't know if they were going to do it. They got everything.

Well, what happened was they were going to do in the late 90s. I don't know if you remember in the late 90s, like 97, 98, Sony was ready to go with another series of James Bond movies. A competing series? Yeah, Sony was going to make a rival series with Leon Eisen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, based on the lawsuit with Kevin McClory. And they were like, okay, Kevin, yeah, come on over here to Sony. We can figure this out.

and they were going to do a rival series of Bond movies. And that created that third lawsuit that lasted until 2006. Wow. Thank God it all worked out. Yeah, we're all pretty happy. Guys, as exciting as the tale behind this movie is, let's talk about the complete opposite. Yeah, the movie.

The movie itself. Except for Luciana Beluzzi. Oh, she is so hot. Fiona Volpe, the Red. The Fem Fetal. She was the Fem Fetal. She wasn't the... I was a little confused.

Me too. The boobs are very similar. I was a little bit confused or it's like, you're talking to the one that always wears a headscarf? Yes. Yes. The one that goes Mr. Bunn, James Bond. Yeah. I love that.

I love that. The one that was in that completely like, like, just another scene that nothing happens where she picks him up in the Mustang randomly. Yeah, and they drive almost a hundred miles on that. Yeah, that's just a show up. And it's like it's building, building, building, and then all of a sudden she just pulls up front of the hotel. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're supposed to be like,

this is very suspenseful, what's going to happen to James Bond? And oh, nothing. It's like a little misdirect. But it's not, because she's in the car, what she's supposed to do. Also, this movie, I think, just like every James Bond movie, really is just a series of ridiculous coincidences. Yes.

Yeah. Like, the fact that he... We'll get to it. We'll get to it. I don't want to jump that far ahead. Okay, so let's... All right. Underwater landing lights, I wrote that down, capitalize underwater.

The plan is to replace this guy who's going to be flying this plane with two nuclear bombs on it. So they have a guy that can get in plastic surgery. For two years, he does lessons, and then he tries to extort more money out of Spector, which I feel like Spector would be like, you're doing it right, buddy. I did like that little exchange. Like, who else you're going to get exactly? What do they say? Like, oh, you're the only one that can do it, exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Plus, they should have been like, well, you know, it's extortions in our name. You were. You're doing a great job. We got some opportunities for you afterwards. So, you know, he takes the plane.

The plane is knock out people with the gas, which is handed to him by Fiona, and then she says, this is the gas. It works very quickly. Like what you just saw. Like what you just used. And the plan is, let's get on this plane. So they got on this plane that has two nuclear warheads on it. We're flying it to NATO plane, so everybody gets to be involved. And I don't think NATO has a nuclear arsenal, but that's a specific point.

The plan is put this gas in there. So apparently on these bombers, there's just a little spot for you to stick gas. Oh, yeah. That goes into the air system. The old container into the dashboard trick. There's another one for Tang. Yeah. And then just like

You guys thirsty? You guys thirsty? I just got to put it in a tang. Is everybody ready? Who's that? That's the guy that sits up front of the tang guy. That's the guy that's a friend that like his tangs. He's like the mousal officer.

He's the hookah guy. You guys, I'm going to go cherry. Guys, you want cherry air? No, we're not thirsty. Guys, I'm just going to put it at this. Scott, what do you want? You know what I'm just going to take us down into the ocean. No, no, no, it's all right, guys.

I'll put chocolate. Do you want chocolate? It's nice. It's a little. Better but all. I'm just got to put it in here. No. It's like Fibreased.

That guy is my new favorite character. Okay, so this underwater thing lands. They cover it up. Why don't they build a run? What? Why do they build a run? Because they want to see. They just put lights.

Like, why not just have, like, some in, they just put lights in the water, right? I think it's very clever to do it underwater. You know? No one's going to see it. It's true. You know, they're just going to do the thing and cover it up. They covered it up nicely. They put the little netting over.

They fucking covered it up for 20 minutes. Yeah, but you had to be sure. That scene went so long. I was like, every underwater scene in this movie is as long as that scene in Star Trek the motion picture when they first get to the Enterprise. I wrote down that this scene has portions of silence that equal 2001, but without the, like, gravitas or something. It just, there's so many more skill.

eyes like nailing stakes it it's like we get it it's a fucking tarp yeah we can do without that it's a tarp that they spent 20 minutes covering well they needed to show you everything they took a few steps back in the world of editing and then i wanted to understand like why because later on in the movie james bond's like we've got to find it like he's obsessed with finding the plane and i was like why like what does it matter well he just wanted to be he like we've watched we've watched so much of the movie but from the logical standpoint of james bond and q or rather not Q. MI6,

they want to be sure that they have the nuclear weapons because they could just be using the coincidence of this plane going down to extort the money. So they want to find the plane,

they want to find out if the bombs are on it. If the bombs are on it, they're like, great, we did it. Good job, everybody. If the bombs aren't there, they're like,

fuck, we might have to pay them $100 million. Pounds. Sorry, pounds. Yeah, so Bond goes and decides I'm going to play Baccaro. again.

I just want to say that at the 40 minute mark, it's 40 minutes when I paused was when they finally were like, here's Operation Thunderball. I mean, it's 40 minutes and they're basically like, this is what's the movie's about, sort of. It takes forever.

Oh, I wrote down, Bond. I wrote this down, and then I didn't remember what the fuck it meant until just now. I wrote down, Bond doing some casual spine, with the old Shawshank. What I meant by that was he cut out a book and put a tape recorder

instead of a hammer. Oh, the scene where he basically like he's recording. Yeah, he recorded the room. He records the room and then there's foot. Yeah. I really checked out because I... I'm not going to lie to you, guys.

I kind of enjoyed that. I enjoyed playing the tape and watching and the camera following where the footprints would be. I don't even remember this. He comes back after doing something by a pool and then he opens a book next to

the phone and there's a reel to real which based on the side of that tape would record like 20 minutes. I mean, let's be honest. And he hits play and then he hears somebody Jimmy the door. And then he's kind of walking with the recording to pace out, oh, he went here and then here.

And then the CIA guy shows up the CIA guy shows up at the door and he's like, hey, Jeremy, he punches him in the gut. Oh, that's right. Felix. Why would he do that? Beach bum Felix. He couldn't just go I think a CIA guy would know one hand over the mouth of being let's be quiet and then he goes to the bathroom there's a guy in the thing with a gun I don't know how he doesn't notice he comes in he turns on the water which scares the

guy oh he turns on but he turns on the hot water which doesn't immediately come out hot no I'm sorry what's going on over there in NASA and then he beats the guy up yep and then he lets go. Yeah, sends him back to send a message to his friends. That's right. And then that guy drives back to see, what's the guy? Who's the patch? Patch car? A Largo. Largo. He goes to Largo's house and then he gets thrown. Oh, yeah.

He smacks him in the face. And then they throw him into the shark The shark pool. To establish that there's a shark pool. Yeah. I remember it all. I'm not saying I don't remember it all. I'm just saying I was bored out of my mind. I checked out. I have to admit. I completely

have. Okay. So, committed every single frame to remember. I'm so sorry, Scott. I'm so sorry. Okay, so now that Bond has been spied on, Felix has shown up, they're aware that some shit's going down here. So what do they do when some shit's going down?

Well, they send everybody's favorite quartermaster, Q, to the scene. Yeah. Q shows up with an attitude towards James Bond as though James has been fucking his wife for years. And he has just found out about it. There's a lesser-known Ian Fleming manuscript

that deals with just that. It was actually also called Thunderballs. Yeah, but I found that... Is that the first instance of him being so like you're a petulant child? In Goldfinger, they were kind of like, no, pay attention to have that said. Yeah, come on. I never joke about my work.

And there's just a little bit of that play. But when this happens, when he gets there, He, like, I just felt the disdain on the screen. I thought it was a weird character change. It happened so quickly or seemingly quickly. No one else thought that was weird? Fuck you guys. Maybe he thought it.

Maybe it was because he was aware that Bond was more rapy. And he was less. Now, try not to rape this camera bond. Or what if Q goes to that therapy hospital a lot and that woman works on him and Q has a big crush on her? She mentioned to him during one of Q's sessions. that you know that James Bond will I don't want to be indelicate but he sort of roughed me around

the classroom where my body buttocks went up against it and just that's all you could see the next time he does that blow into this it's called a rape whistle yes it looks like an ordinary ballpoint pen are you trying to rape me don't I'm calling James Bond no I'm trying to help you oh god damn it James

Thank you Thank you thank you We like to sometimes be caring a better scene than anything than Thunderball. Now pay attention. It's actually a rape whistle. Okay, so

what is he giving? Okay, here's what he gets. Here's what Q gives him. We've seen a movie with the amazing Acid Martin DB5 that shows back up here, so what we're expecting is something super awesome, but what we get is

not. We get an underwater camera. Yes. A Geiger camera. It's a Geiger camera. Eight photos in rapid fire. A rapid succession. So close.

So rapid that they look like the same photo. Now what you'll notice here is that they'll all be blurry. Because it's just been waterproofed. It doesn't shoot well under water. But it's an infrared lens. So that's something, right? Now pay attention. Here's a watch.

Now, what he gets handed is the Brightling Geneva. The only time James Bond has ever worn a brightling. Really? All right. I'm a big fan of watches and James Bond watches. Right now I'm wearing the Omega Seed Master Professional. This is the choice of Brosden through Craig in the first movie. Now, this brightling.

Only time James Bond has ever worn a brightling. So James Bond has worn the following watches. He's worn a Rolex Submariner. That's pretty much his watch of choice in the early movies. This brightling, the Omega's, a Seiko. When did he have a Seiko? Roger Moore had a Seiko because it was the

first digital watch. That's right. And it's red. Look, I got a Rolex check that out. That's amazing. Roley Bling. By the way, if you want to buy the same year Rolex Submariner that James Bond currently is wearing in this movie, and if you want to buy that online, with that

strap, it'll cost you. $64,000. Oh, shit. And that's not the one he wore. It's just a Rolex. It's like a version of that. This is $63,000 in my watch fund that I've... Oh, my God. Is that...

Yeah, I don't know that I'd ever drop that kind of change on a watch. But anyway, so this brightling went missing. What? No one knew what happened to this brainling. The one that he wore? Yeah, the one that James Bond wore. Guy at a yard sale this year in England picks up this brightling, goes,

Huh. Sees that there's some weird modifications done to it. asks to buy it from the thing. And the guy's like, yeah, sure, 15 bucks or whatever. I was like, maybe it was like a hundred buck. It was a brightling. So maybe it was like 100 pounds. This is in England.

Then he gets it checked out, and they realized this is the missing James Bond Thunderball Brightling. No shit. Yeah. And it went into an auction, and I never found out how much it made. Katie, is there any chance you can look that up for us? James Bond, Brightling, yard sale, auction. I'm sure that'll bring up something.

But that's pretty insane, right? Wow. Isn't that insane? Here's a question for you. Would, if that happened to you, would you sell it? Do you sell it or you'd keep it? I'd keep it. Yeah, I'd wear it.

I'd be like, check it to sell it. I'd keep it for a while then I'd sell it. I'd sit on it. Rainy day. Yeah. It's your slush fun. Well, that's when you can go stay at the Golden Estate. You cash around.

$160,000, $360,000. Wow. $160,380. That's how much he sold it for. The watch that he bought for a couple hundred pounds. Wow. Not insane. Does it say how much he bought it for?

No. That, I think that is interesting, though. I mean, you've seen a couple of brightling shows. Anyway, there's watch nerds out there, and sometimes they care. And you're one of them. Yeah. There's watch nerds in here. Who?

Oh. Does the sound of a watch nerd. Like screening Guys I have Four Omega's at home And one Brightling Do you really? Yep

Do you have a Brightling? Is it modeled after the one that No, No, It's a Brightling cult And you bought all of them Because of James Bond Well, I bought the Brightling

Because one of my Omega's Was in for service And I didn't have Oh, how are you going To live for two weeks Without your You Have you seen this Tamlin?

No, but I see your hair has just been Turned to mange under there What is going on? I'm jealous I'm only speaking out of jealousy That's all it is The only bond memorabilia I own Is this shirt that I made

The MV Disco Volante What is that? Can I ask without me? Marine vessel Disco Valante Yeah, that's the name of Largo's boat This is what all these little Sailor Hinchmen wear Yeah

You see it in the movie And I know, it's just so weird that they're wearing some of it because all you really see is the word disco. Yeah. Also, by the way,

I would like everyone listening to know that when Omega services a watch, it takes like three months. Oh, my God. It's a long time to go without a watch.

Wow. And you had a cell phone at that time? I have to go. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I see.

You mean in June? You mean in June? When this shirt has to go into laundry, I go buy a Tom Ford's suit. Because it takes three months to launder.

It doesn't. in my household. Gourley, I just, I like watches. No, I'm only jealous. That's all it is. Don't worry, you can do it too. It's not that expensive.

He's got to sit and wait for the right eBay auction. Also, I hate the Brightling. So if you want it, let's talk. You can have it. It's too small for my big... But you bought the Bright Lane because it had been

in a James Wild movie. It wasn't like you chose it. No, I chose the Brightling just on its own because I like Brightlings. It's the choice of pilots. He just gave you a little touch there. I know. He wanted me to calm me down.

Choice of pilots. More than I ever get here on the podcast. There it is. Feeb is very physical. We're actually, we're mostly, we actually don't, we don't stop until our erections go down. Yeah, that's what we have a mic set up

where it's like, we can massage each other, and then we switch and this is... Thunderball, huh? Yeah, we call it Thunderball. The best line in Thunderball, though, is that gun is made for a woman. Do you know anything about shooting? No, but I know a little about women.

I love that. Oh, that was a great line, yeah. Yeah, he goes to Vargas's house. My favorite, my favorite thing in the whole movie is, who is the weird guy? Vargas, yes. Vargas. He is my favorite part.

He's great. That scene where, what's the patch guy? Yeah, Larga. What does he say to me? He doesn't drink. He doesn't smoke? What does he do? He doesn't make love?

does he do? And then he just stints they're really awkward and he doesn't say anything. It's so bizarre. Let's talk. What does Vargas do? What is he into?

He's so... I have that written down too. Well, it was so weird because it was almost like he kind of wouldn't make eye contact and he was like sort of shamed because he doesn't do things?

He's an idiot savant, but what he's a savant at is killing people. I guess so. I don't know. He doesn't really kill anyone. Yeah, yeah, I guess he doesn't.

He throws those concussion grenades in the water. Did you see how he throws those two? Yeah. Like a girl throw and he just tosses him in. The other guys are chucking him down there. He just does this little shoulder lob. Does he say a word in the whole thing?

Does he? I don't know if he does. I feel like he does. He's amazing. My favorite scene in the whole movie is when that guy, basic, that exchange where he's like, he doesn't make love? It's like, what movie? It's just so bizarre, like out of nowhere.

And the way when you get to the thing where he's, gonna shoot Vargas is gonna shoot Bond at that night club that outside night club and he puts Fiona in front of him and she gets shot yeah but the way he brings the gun from behind the curtain like no human would do just solely for cinematic reveal because who would ever line someone up and then he's shooting low from the hips so he's doing one of these like this yeah he also just sticks it it's like it's like it's sticking out from the curtain and he's just like sitting there for so long it doesn't have to be sticking out it's waiting for the music to christend I love that

I do love that scene I like that scene too which is I like the I like the preceding thing where basically they're parked in the car and the

drunk Jamaican guy is just like oh that rum I have some and he sticks his like they got bond and he's waving the thing and he smacks the rum bottle and then he fucking

she's lighting a cigarette at the same time and he lights it on fire and then he gets shot and you're like that's right and then he gets shot and he runs of the parade.

That girl in the red dress that he takes up to the dance floor first, she's in Casino Royale. She's at the table when he's first playing in the Bahamas. The one who's like, you should have told me your wife. Yeah. When Fiona comes up. Yeah. Did you know that? That's, um, what's your face? That's in the two movies?

Oh, she's not in a red dress. Who's in the red dress? No, what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the, she's, oh, she's not the main girl that he decides to fuck. where are you? I'm in Dr. No, in my head. No, I'm talking with Thunderball. When they go to that outdoor dance.

Kiss, kiss, bang, bang. Yeah. Yeah. And he brings that girl up in the red dress and then Fiona comes up and then the girl in the red dress goes, oh, you're married or whatever? That girl is in Casino Royale.

Oh, my brain? When you said Casino Royale was like, okay, casino royale's far too late for her to be still alive. So I'm going to go ahead and put her in Dr. No. Oh, no. Oh, you were thinking of Sylvia Trench? Yeah, I was thinking of it's in Casino Royale.

She's at the poker table. Really? The Bahamas, yeah. Oh, the Bahamas pokey table. Yeah, she's got glasses on. She's not the United Benaton of weird-looking poker players that is at Casino Royale's main tournament. No, the CD-ROM game. Yeah.

Okay, so the most boring movie in the world has some more underwater stuff. Bond's got to go investigate, okay? And when Bond investigates, he does it real. slow. Oh, and he goes to look at the disco Valante and take eight photos, blurry photographs. In molasses. In rapid succession.

Don't forget that. This is honestly where my notes stop until the end, because it's just a lot of underwater. Well, I think there's some interesting stuff, because when he decides, I'm going to go to Largo's house. This is after he takes those pictures, right? He takes

the pictures, he takes the pictures, and he's up in the helicopter, and he basically is like, I'm going to go there. He's five feet from Largo's house. He's like, that's Largo's his house. And then he's like, my next stop. And then he, and then he's, like, and then he's, like,

talking about Vargas, he's like talking about Vargas, which is my favorite scene of the movie. It's just so awkward. What does he do? I want a Vargas spin-off. Now, he visits the house, and then he has to go, why does he go back?

He goes back because that girl gets taken? No, he goes back just to like investigate, and that's when he like... Drops his gun and becomes the worst spy of all time. He drops the gun becomes the worst spy, and then they... And then him and the guy fall in the pool, and they close the pool cover. Yeah, and they're very careful not to get crushed by no pounds of pressure. Yeah, they close the pool cover and they release the sharks. He's like, opens the gates, and then they open the gate, and the shark starts to swim in.

And then Bond stabs the guy he was fighting underwater. Yeah. He puts on his one of the thing that Q gave him the breathing apparatus that lasts for four minutes. This is a breathing apparatus. He'll have four minutes of oxygen. And then he's, and then he basically just, it's pre-jaws. So it's like, I don't know how scary sharks are, but it's like he just sort of swims up to the, he opens the hatch. He opens the hatch.

That's the weird part. They open the hatch on one side. James Bond opens the hatch on the other side. And apparently they had no way to open the hatch. So technically, the only way the sharks got into the pool was because James Vaughan opened the hatch. And then it swims by him. And then he, remember? Well, I can tell you.

Yeah, but even hearing this, it's like, this is all happening in 20 minutes. They didn't tell him the shark was going to be there, Connery, and this could be part of the reason why he didn't like this anymore. Are you kidding? The first take, it was some kind of accident or they didn't tell him, I can't remember what it was, and he got really pissed. Oh, like, he opened the door. When he recoils his bomb, that's really Connery. Oh, maybe that was the broccoli's going like, just sending him. Did for real.

I think it might well, this stunt guy or something, I don't know. That's what I made in my notes, underwater bullshit this time with sharks. They swiss. Well, there's the other underwater something they discover the plane, and they basically is like, shoot one of them. Yeah. And then the other ones will, to distract them. From the helicopter. Yeah.

And then, and he does not long at last. But he swims through the tunnel with the sharks. He gets out of the other size and then he leaves. But then he gets out of there. I wrote down. I wrote down. He gets out of there. Then he goes and fucks Fiona.

But she's all like, oh, no, you didn't. My notes got real tricky. Mine, too. We have not done our due diligence. Well, it's so hard to sit through. It is. I cannot wait till the day we do a live commentary for this movie. It all blurs.

It blurs together a lot. Although, like, yeah, he leaves. He goes back. Well, they fuck, he fucks Fiona, right? Yeah. And then they sort of like try to one up each other about who cared less about the fucking. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And he's like, well, I totally fucked you, but I didn't care. And she's like, oh, well, listen, you thought I care because I didn't fucking care even a little bit. I cared less to you about fucking you. And then he's like, well, I fucked you, but didn't really care. I less than that, even. I faked my orgasm. Then she takes a gun.

Then he goes for his gun. And then the other guys come in. He opens the door. He opens the door, like, in a sketch. Like, when you open the door and, like, a shark is there or something. And, like, a land shark. And then he closed the door. You're not going to believe what's behind this door.

Oh, I forgot that part. Well, that's when he gets taken into the car and then meets the... Yeah, and then they go through the parade and they go to kiss, kiss, bang, bang. Yeah. And then my favorite... I love the way she got killed. Yeah. Oh.

I love the way. way she got killed and I also enjoyed the way that he put her down at the table with that couple and he's like, my friend now, she's just dead. Yeah. It's so stupid. I love it. I love Jay and Sean Connery's dumb puns.

There's another really bad one in this movie. I forget what it is. I don't remember. Okay. Well, he says something when he kills Bargis later on. I think he got the point. Was that what it was? Yes.

Oh, hang on, I wrote that down. Because then we have Fiona dies. Then here's my notes exactly. Now we have long bullshit underwater. Then he runs into Domino for some reason underwater. Then they fuck. You can tell because of the air bubbles. Yeah, they meet up and then they go behind a rock.

And then they come together. They drop down behind a rock. And then all these bubbles go up to represent that, like, obviously he started intercourse. I wrote down Shequeefed. It was ridiculous. Okay. And then I wrote down,

then he kills What's His Face with a spear gun and then says, I think he got the point. So I will say I was really disappointed because I really liked Vargas. But then I'm like, you send your henchman.

He basically just drives up. He walks within, he walks, he stands in plain sight with like a handgun and then she goes like, oh, there's Vargas. He turns around and shoots him with a spear gun. By the way, it's a very good casual killing by bomb.

It is. It is. So he has sex with Domino and then decides to come up on showing. Underwater sex. Yeah, and then tell her that her brother's dead. Yes. And hands are the watch and the dog tags. And then say, I need you to help me.

Stop sniveling. I need your help. And then she says, promise me you'll kill him. And then his reaction is he. kisses her. Then I wrote down. He doesn't actually say... And she has to kill him.

She kills him. Yeah. But she's glad she killed him. I love that. That is her life. Guys, we're not there yet. Sorry. We're not there yet.

Sorry. Sorry. Let's get there. Because my next... After you get the point, my next note was, oh, my God. That's the only right I don't remember what happened, but I wrote down, oh, my God. She tells him, she's like, randomly, like, she goes, promise me you'll kill him, and he kisses her.

And then she's like, I don't know if this will help. But there's a... a bridge that fucking Patchy McPatch has a thing and they go over there like that

she just randomly pulls this like the next scene out yeah yeah that's right that's right yeah so then he goes underwater

well then he goes to the bridge he punches guy he dresses up he goes under it's not even an underwater lab it's like a cave

it's like a little cave where the bombs are and then for 20 minutes they load the bombs onto the orange bob slacks Slowly and meticulously.

Yeah. Because they're atomic. So he's given her the camera that it's a Geiger counter. It'll click. And if it clicks, the bombs are on board, then walk upstairs. It counts Geish. How many Geish are on this boat? So, yeah.

Oh, that's my fucking favorite. That was my other favorite part where she has the fucking Geiger counter and she drops it and then fucking... Disco Volante captain. Yeah. But Largo comes up and he's just like, oh, he's all pissed off. and he grabs her and he fucking throws her and he pulls the strap off her arm yeah which is like and then he's he goes then he's like he's like he's like hot hot and cold scientifically applied scientifically applied he's got a fucking handful of ice cubes does that me how there's no science to that

what the fuck is he saying i wrote down a big letter scientifically applied it's not even that like If I tied you up right now and I fucking said like I'm gonna fuck like I'm gonna saw fuck you and you're just like think of all the bad shit I could do to you and I had a cigarette

and a handful of ice cubes A cigarette you were like kind of already smoking anyway Whatever he does do the cigarette will be soothed by the ice That'll help Science dictates Uh

Yeah okay So This is when Some shit's going down Then we see the guy That they have gotten to be the bomb guy. The little nerdy guy.

Yeah, a little nerdy guy. Yeah, a little nerdy guy. Who is essentially playing the same character as the guy in the Dark Night Rises that is the only guy that can turn the thing into a nuclear bomb. Yes. Yeah. Oh, God.

Same guy. Before that, remember, when Bond goes, when he goes to the bridge and then he goes to where they get the bombs, and then he gets trapped on the island and basically he's sitting in a cave, And fucking, the CIA guy is flying, CIA guy is flying in the helicopter, and they're like, we've got to find James. And then James shoots the flare, which is another thing that Q gave him.

Yeah. But he also took the pill. Remember? The homing pill, yeah. Oh, is that what it was? That's right when he got out of the water and his shorts were soaking, and he goes down one set of stairs in there is bone dry. Bone dry.

Well, I mean, who knows? It could have been Nike dry fit. Thanks, guys. This guy. Nike's and his Omigas. It's Omega. I'm going to say Omega for the rest of my life.

I only say that because that's how Barnes says. That's how Daniel Craig says it. Whatever. I understand that the English people invented the language and thusly can pronounce things correctly. We don't, but come on.

It's Omega. Okay. Let's be honest. Are we honest with each other? Yeah, I suppose so. All right. Because do you think of it as a Jaguar? Jaguar.

It's a Jaguar. I wear a... Omega Watts And drive a Jagger you are Jaguar E type The E is for elitism Uh Okay

This now begins the Least exciting longest climax In the history of films It's true Bar none Yeah You cannot tell me

There's a climate There's a more Or less boring climax Because what happens is He is picked up by Felix Felix says

Go guys go They open a carrier plane They drop A massive amount of personnel Out of this thing They parachute out Is this the first Bond Army on army fight?

Because this recurss a lot Yeah yeah Have you in your life Ever seen a movie Where 20 guys parachute Into a fighting situation And been more bored No

Exactly No Because what happens Is they parachute And as soon as they hit the water, that bullshit slow garbage music starts. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just, it's so infuriating, because it's not even like, it would have been better if they use that little, you know, the James Bond doing getting stuff done theme, you know? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The badda-da-da-da. That thing, whatever the fuck that is. But they don't. They use the underwater music, and I wish that

I could pull up that music and play it for you. Well, you mentioned earlier the tope work or someone did in this. And I'm convinced that there's a short scene in this underwater fight where something had gone wrong with his toupee and they took a tuft and stuck it into his mask. And everything else is free, but there's

just this one little band of hair that is put into his mask so it would keep it on his head. By the way, the big scene, the big climax here, when he's fighting Vargas, I mean, not Vargas, Largo underwater and his goggles get taken off. And then he's like,

I can't do anything. I can't possibly see and then he just takes goggles off of a dead guy and puts them on underwater you can blow it out yeah blow the air out since when since 1972 yeah then they made a law thank you could do that thank you katie she she agrees with me no you can it doesn't work you can yeah sure it's it's an old you're not an adventure like me and scott yeah yeah i've been in a she serves with a mask you serve with a mask on oh so listen guys tell me how this works tell me how this works because i was very intrigued by the situation slash bothered.

Let's Google this, but I'm almost sure you can. I'm pretty sure you can too. Have you guys ever done it? I mean, we've done it. Yeah, yeah. In a movie theory, we've covered that. I think I have.

I think I honestly have. I think you can do it. You have to be able to do it. Yeah. Well, how do you do it? Tight snorkel mask. How do you do it? You blow, you use your nose.

You go, and it blows the water out. Yeah. There's a way, there's a way to do it. It's not completely all the way out. It's like, because I'm, Underwater, it's like if you do get it in there, there's a way to get it out. I'm telling you. I'll tell you.

I'll trust you. We're going to myth-bust this. We're scientifically applying the air to the mask. We're scientifically... Well, you're creating a pocket. Scientifically applied. How to clear a scuba mask of water. Underwater.

Start by holding the top of the mask frame firmly against your forehead. You can do this with one hand placed in the center of the mask, frame her finger in about, blah, blah, blah, blah. Began, exhale, slowly. slowly but forcefully through your nose, then tilt your head up while continuing to exhale. If you have difficulty exhaling from your nose, it helps to imagine that you have some extra sticky, nasty boogers up your nostrils that you will need to blow up.

Focus on your imaginary boogers and blow. And that'll do it? And, well, the internet never lies. But don't email. This is another thing. Don't email in with you. I mean, I don't mind email in. I don't look at it.

I do, though. I answer these emails. I know. Oh, people will say yes or no whether you can. There's some great, great feedback, and I don't mean to be disparaging of it, but there's some great people that bring great knowledge. But then there are also people that complain that we pronounce quantum of solace, quantum of solace, or vice versa. Oh, you're shitting me. No, and things like that.

There's a discussion of solace versus solace? Well, I mean, I think it's a word that could be pronounced both ways, so it's a preference thing. Yeah. So quantum of solace. With all due respect, none of that. Because he is soulless. I get it. Well, yeah, that was definitely what I was going for.

I think I say solace often, but sometimes I say solace. Do you really? Yeah. Say solace. I've never heard you say. I've never heard, so I've always heard solace. I've always heard solace. Also, I know that the internet and everybody in England assumes that they're just saying ma'am really weird with an accent, but no.

I'm not convinced of that either. I am not at all convinced of that situation. I don't give a fuck if you guys think you pronounce ma'am mum. no one in that movie is saying ma'am. I think they're saying mum. It's like a term of endearment for M. Yeah. We are...

What we're doing right now, Scott, because this movie sucks is we are not talking about previous movies. Let's wrap it up this movie. They have the underwater battle. Underwater bullshit battle. The bombs get blah blah blah. Everyone's shooting spears.

I don't know how that's the best way to kill from the underwater. James Ron uses his... He... Q gives him a tank that has like an orange, like, dye coming out of the back of it at one point as he rockets. Inconsvickers. As he rockets through and he's like slicing or pulling off mass and stuff. Why is it colored? Why is it colored?

I don't know. But it goes on and fucking on. Remember when he's like going into the ship? The best part too is the posture he strikes where he's got one knee bent and the other. It's like you might as well be a circus of layers. It's amazing. Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. But it goes on and on and on and on and on.

Then they get up onto the disco. The light speed traveling disco Valente? The Disco Valante that... Separates. Separates. It's like Star Trek. Yeah. It's like a saucer separation.

That was like a G.I. Joe toy. They would all do that kind of thing. Yeah, no. That was... I mean, I enjoyed the concept of it. Didn't understand why he wanted to release the smoke and then separate. Maybe to make... To decoy the love the part of it.

to maybe to make everybody think the boat that just came from in front of them, that looked an awful lot, like the front half of the disco valante wasn't the rest of the disco valante? I don't know. And he dumped a bunch of his henchmen, too. They were stuck on the boat. And they kept fighting. There's some casual fucking henchmen.

When that boat, watch that movie, just that scene, and watch that half of the Disco Valenti blow up, there's a stuntman on there that just does not move. And just goes, I guess I better jump off now. Really?

After it's already blown up. Really? Yeah. It's pretty interesting. So now we get onto the disc of Valenti. James comes in. The nuclear scientist guy has turned. He's a turncoat.

Turned on Specter. He's helped... Domino get... Domino. Because he's probably secretly in love with Domino. She says, no, he's helped me. He's good. So then James's like, all right, great.

I'll kill. And then he gets in a fight up on the bridge. In the meantime, I'm going to guess. He doesn't see Domino. James gets on the boat, gets right on the bridge, and starts a slap fight with a bunch of guys for 20 minutes. Yeah. And then right when...

On the bridge, after the ship has entered warp speed. Yeah, and then it's constantly steering towards rocks, and they're like at the last minute, like, when it's four feet from the rocks, and then they're still slap fighting. Yeah. And then finally James goes down and... McPatchy. McPatch dude has the gun on him and you think he's going to die and then he gets speared. Yeah.

Speard in the back. It's an awesome moment. And it's domino. It is a good moment. I think that's a great moment. Later mirrored in for your eyes only but not quite. Yes. But now they have to.

Well, he falls on. The controls are jammed. Because he falls, he dies. He falls forward under the wheel and he somehow locks the thing. They're headed toward the rocks. Yeah. The trolls are jammed, so they got to abandon ship. Scientist guy can't swim.

So James gives him a little life preserver. It says fuck off. He throws them in there. They all jump off. Then a ship comes by, drops the raft, and the guy's just left there. The poor guy that can't swim. He's just left there.

He can't swim, and it's probably out in the middle of nowhere. And they then retrieve him a la. and... Well, now... Batman does it all of Bonn. These are... You're coming up with a lot of things where Nolan borrows from Bond.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And that's the movie. That literally is the end of the movie. Well, the end of the movie is him holding on... I mean, him holding on the girl... Yeah.

Attached to a cable underneath a giant plane. How do they retrieve the person? They can't reel them in. Yeah. It wasn't like the Batman thing, because it's just on one end is a balloon and the other end is the people. No, that's a real device. I know it is, but how do they get them in?

But how do you reel them in? I think then that... That's how you catch them. That thing catches, and then I think that thing can reel them up, right? I mean, I assume it would. What the fuck would be the point of it? It's how you... I mean, like, you still have to land at...

Why do you have a problem with a scuba mask, but not this thing? Yeah. Because this thing I've seen in real life. Oh. I have not seen a scoomomask. But have you seen it in 1965? It just looked like it caught it and then basically picked them up. Yeah, that was an old, that was like a, that was a thing to retrieve people off the battlefield.

I know they used to do that, but I always thought it was done a different. I don't know how they were, look, I don't know, guys. I just don't know. I don't think it's important. What's important is that this movie spends 65 minutes underwater. It's a lot of underwater. And then later on in another Bond movie, don't they get caught on the same kind of raft? But that James Bond is like, whoa, fucking we can wait.

Oh, James Bond You can wait in a hour And like, do it Ends like half of the movies on a raft. Goldfinger ends on the ground with a parachute And then they fuck it out. There is another raft. Tomorrow never dies.

There's a raft. Is there? Yeah. Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is that we got through Thunderball. We did. We really did. Boy.

What a piece of interesting cinema. Yeah. And it's going to get tougher for me. I'm not a, I'm not a You Only Live Twice fan when this. I like You Only Look Twice. I like that Toyota that they turn into a convertible. Oh, boy.

Yeah. Is that the, which one's the... Volcano layer? No, which one's the one set in like New Orleans or... Oh, Living Light Die. Is that, okay. Living Light Die. The best James Bond theme.

This one was not good. I kept texting Matt. No, it wasn't good. It's a rough one. really not exciting. I have noticed a lot of correspondents where people are excited to hear this because they really like this film,

so I'm curious about that. It's never been a favorite amount. I don't care for it. I know that a lot of people that are like it, and I can see... There's... There are glimpses of really cool things

that might happen. There's some good scenes. Yeah. I actually really, really think somebody could take that movie and just, like, you could cut that thing down and make it into something

That would just be a little bit more gripping. It's just so slow that you're like, you never feel threatened. That's right. There's no threat whatsoever. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I could see. I guess, I guess if, you know, in 1965, I guess that would be sort of like the most underwater you had seen. Oh, definitely. And jetpack and you're seeing things that were blowing your mind.

So in that sense, I'm sure it was a lot more interesting to us. But we, guys, we've grown up in a world where James Cameron, goes to the Titanic for fun and there's a movie about it. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I think about that all the time. We live in that time, all the time. The director of Terminator goes down to the Titanic for fun, for fun, just for funzies.

Yeah. So that's Thunderball. Yeah. Yeah. Let's address some of the other stuff that we're getting a lot of. First, let me start on a positive note by saying that I would like to thank Glenn Weldon. from pop culture happy hour for shouting out about our podcast on mpr did you know about that i did not know about that and he's a great guy and he's an author himself uh he wrote superman the unauthorized biography which i started to read and only haven't finished because i've been busier than a

paisley bed sheet um i like that a lot i like that a lot i just had to come up with something right now uh but i can i can recommend it now having only read a little bit it's fantastic if you're interested in Sue Rand. Thank you, Glenn. Oh, pick it up. Thanks, Glenn. Thanks for the shout-out. Also, listen to Feb while you're at it.

Yeah, so getting a lot of good feedback on these. A lot of, I'm going to say, bonkers people about the Goldfinger episode we did with Alley and Georgia. Episode we've recorded since that has come out. Right. Yeah. People were upset at the Gold Fair. People were very upset because Allie and Georgia sort of took the stance of, wow, look how massage this is, and I feel like accurately so, it was Goldfinger, and it was 1964, and it was James Bond.

Of course that's what it was. Yeah, and they didn't care for the fact that they pointed that out. Yeah, how's the best to describe this? Those of you that didn't comment were probably preaching to the choir, but those of you that did, many of them were great, wonderful, insightful comments, but there is a... It's a podcast, everybody. Yeah. It's a podcast.

We're not doing this because we're rolling in money about it. Yeah. Like, we make zero dollars on this podcast. We just do it because we like James Bond. We like to hear what people think about James Bond. And, you know, we like to sort of put it out there. Sort of like our thoughts on James Bond. We do this genuinely because we love James Bond.

And trust us to do different things with different episodes. And yes, maybe Allie and Georgia got a little acerbic and it wasn't as fun an episode as the previous ones or the ones after. But isn't that okay? aren't we all going to be all right? Babies won't die. And I've got news for everybody listening to this. I and Matt have talked about having them back to watch Casino Royale because I just want to see what they think of the modern James Bond because I find that interesting.

I find their point of view on the 60s James Bond very interesting and I would love to know their opinion on this modern Daniel Craigian James Bond. Yeah, and because we had Maria and Amanda on for Casino Royal who loved it so much and those two were two good counterpoint episodes. Yeah. Point counterpoint. And we wanted to do that. knew we wanted to give both sides after that first one happened. So again, trust us with that, but

it would be fun to have all four of them on if we want to do it. It would be interesting. It would be interesting. I don't, probably not going to happen. Yeah. But no reason to get disparaging in your comments. There were people that used the C word. Yeah. And you're just, you're an idiot. Get over it. It's just a podcast. And yes, so maybe they got a little upset on the podcast. It's just a movie. You could say that too. We had fun. We liked what they had to say. It's just a podcast. Yeah, just everybody relax and take a nap and then listen to the podcast. And if you hate an episode, guess what? Another one's coming.

Yeah. Don't worry about it. Right, Scott? There's always another one coming. That being said, thank you for listening. And those of you that did write positive things. And even if you wrote... Are people going to be upset that we called them rapy?

Or have you done that already? We've done that. Oh, no. We're all well aware. But there were people that wrote critical things. So people are fine with it being rapy, but they're not okay with a bee. Oh, as soon as a female points that out, it becomes some fucking crazy, bat shit crazy. It's surprising.

But the other thing was that it wasn't even so much what they were saying. It was like there were some comments. Again, these are just some people that were like, you took the fun out of my podcast. How could you do that? Oh, right, right, right. There was an entitlement issue. Oh, the fun killers? Yeah, or just like this, nobody's entitled to anything.

We appreciate all the listening, but just, you know, tune in and... Technically, I don't know who owns this podcast. Yeah. God. God owns this podcast, guys. Anyway, I don't mean... I didn't know that what I signed on because I would... Oh, you didn't know you're on a controversial podcast?

Oh, yeah. This is a... No, it was... Listen, I love Allie and Georgia. They're personal friends, and... And don't call my friends cunts. Yeah. Because that's really fucked up.

We wouldn't do that to your friend's comment guy. Yeah, comment guy in 63, Fitty-fucker 97, whatever your name is. Again, we're probably preaching to the choir, but it is a good lesson about internet comments. You don't always have to sound off. Well, yeah, I mean, especially if you're going to drop that. Yeah.

C-word? I don't know if the, yeah, if you're going to drop the C-word, I don't know if the nerdist page has ever seen the C-word in the comment. Yeah, because I come from the Super Ego podcast where we don't deal with issues or anything like that. It's like a narrative thing, and all we ever get is just discussion about what happened. We don't ever get comments on why or how

or anything like that, you know. Katie, have you ever seen anyone get called a cunt on our boards? It was twice. Twice that happened. Yeah. I can delete them. Oh, good. We got rid of one.

So there might be just one more sitting up there. I don't understand. I don't know. Just have fun. Enjoy the fucking podcast. Exactly. Because it makes it more fun. I know you didn't have fun on that episode, some of you, but it makes more fun for us. I did. I don't mean you. I meant the listeners. Some of the listeners.

Well, listen. But we still. We stop having fun when people start making that weird critical thing like that, you know. I don't mind, well, listen, I don't mind critiques. Like, if we're meandering too much or something like that, I don't mind that. No, I just mean those nitpicky. Yeah, don't insult the guests. Yeah.

I guess. I mean, it's Scott. You can insult Scott. That's fine. Oh, I don't care if you do it all the time. Please do. Just, I want every comment to have the word cunt in it. As many uses as possible.

I just feel like we had to have a family meeting We don't ever want to have any more family meetings That's the point Yeah I don't want any more family meetings Because it's a podcast And it makes me feel awkward I roll out of bed Matt comes from the gym

Scott comes from jerking people off at the movie theater Yeah Which is a full-time job And we sit down and we have a good time with it Yeah And that's what we'd like to keep I uh No I genuinely

I love doing this podcast It's a great podcast It's uh It's not, I mean, it's no Feeb, but, I mean, it's a pretty good podcast. Thanks for having me and making me watch Thunderball. I'm sorry to do that, dude. They almost owe you a better bond. What episode was it where we went off on Thunderball on Fibb?

Do you remember? It was like three episodes ago? I can't remember. Was it 23? That sticks in my mind. 23? Yeah, I think it was 23. Yeah, go listen to, if you want to hear more of Scott and I,

we invented a character, the guy that's from the 60s that's genuinely excited to see underwater footage. If you want to hear him be excited. Just amazing. Go check out Feeb episode 23. We do some heavy. There's actually, James Bond comes up a lot on Fibb. Well, I don't know how it wouldn't.

Yeah. If I can't talk about it all the time. Yeah, that's true. Even we're not Feebbing. Yeah, we do. No matter where we are. You got the watches. You got the laser.

Yeah. So listen to Fibb. Listen to super ego. And listen to this. What you're already doing. So that's good. And James Bonding will return in Die Another Day. We don't have a guest for this one yet, do we?

No. My girlfriend genuinely loves the movie. Oh, that's good. And I'm so confused by that. I will have a lot to talk about with that movie. Because it may be my favorite Brosnan to watch because it's, you know me. I don't love the Brosons. Is that the way to tell the horror one?

Yeah. Yeah. I recommend, Katie, you check it out before we do this podcast. because it is that bad. Yeah. It's like an episode of how did this get made? The problem with this movie is that it's as bad as diamonds are forever, but it hasn't dated itself enough that it doesn't feel like a vintage bad movie.

Yeah, it's just something you can sit and make fun of her hours. Yeah. And Hallie Barry should have her Oscar taken away for her performance in Dying Over the Day. Yeah. I mean, but shouldn't she technically have her Oscar taken away from every performance other than the one she won for? Maybe. Although she's great in swordfish.

I'm just kidding. Her boobs are, though. No, her boobs are great. Her boobs are great as she's walking down the street wherever she is right now. She's the new one. You can't take it out away from her. Congratulations, Halley.

You can never take it away from it. As much as you want to. Listen to that. Yeah. When the stuff's happening, Matt and I are discussing possibly doing a live James Bonding. Yeah.

Should we talk about that at all? Or do you want to keep? Well, if we talk about it, then maybe Janet and the cold be forced to have us. You're talking about view to a kill or you're talking about

sketch fest. I'm talking about sketch fest. Oh, okay. We figure why not. We'll probably both be up there anyway.

Maybe there'll be a venue around. Yeah. And then we've talked about a live view to a kill because we have so many people that want to do a view to a kill. Guests.

Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty bonkers. I'm trying to remember who now. It's Hardwick. Padgett Brewster. I feel like who else was I talking to

that one of them? Oh, Colin Hanks. Yeah. Colin wanted to do it too. Yeah, it's so, you know. Yeah. Good. I really wanted to do Thunderball.

Yeah, he nailed it. Well, we're all about making wishes come true. Scott, we'd love to have you come back on some time if there's a... Oh, Scott, I want you to come back on for Never Say Never Again. That's not a bad idea. I've seen it. I haven't seen it in a while. Yeah.

I would watch it again. That's Kim Bassenger, right? Yeah, it'll be a few, I mean, and Rowan Atkinson is cute, right? And Claus Maria Brandauer is maybe one of the best. best bond villains ever. So, yeah, look forward to that. We will address Never Say Never Again with three pairs of eyes that have freshly seen Thunderball. What are we doing to ourselves? Yeah, that's a good idea. That's a great idea. Thanks for bonding. Yeah, thanks for joining us. Thank you. Do you feel bonded? I do. I feel like, I feel like, I don't want to leave. I don't want

to stop. No reason. We can do a feed right now. We can just want to go to the movies. Guys, let's always go see gravity and jerk each other off. I'll jerk you off during a podcast, too. It doesn't have to. This is great. Thanks for listening. Follow us at James Bonding Pod on Twitter. Follow at Matt Goreley, G-O-U-R-L-E-Y, at Scott Moser is at S-M-O-S-I-E-R. There's no one or anything, right?

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