JAR Media Posdact - 2021 JAR Wrap Up - JARCast Episode 255
Episode Date: January 3, 2022https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 05:14 MOVIES 05:48 Matrix Reborn 14:48 Resident Ev...il Reborn 20:04 Red Notice 25:11 Spider Man: Far From Reborn 31:34 Eternals Reborn 32:19 Suicide Squad 33:03 Dune 37:13 Inside 38:36 Malignant 39:10 The Green Knight 39:59 Judas & Black Massiah 40:44 GAMES 40:53 Mass Effect Reborn 41:44 Deathloop 47:04 Psychonauts 2 49:05 Control Ultimate Reborn 52:46 Apex Legends Reborn 55:08 Halo Infinite Reborn 1:10:19 Gears Tactics 1:11:05 Resident Evil 8 1:13:52 MUSIC 1:14:00 Donda 1:15:51 Sometimes I Might Be Introvert 1:16:59 Meanwhile EP 1:17:50 Maybe Tommorow Low Roar 1:20:06 Call Me If You Get Lost 1:21:22 I Don't Live Here Anymore 1:22:54 An Evening With Silk Sonic 1:24:09 Loving in Stereo 1:24:21 The Turning Wheel 1:24:33 Build Back Better EP - PopGang 1:26:02 TV 1:26:23 Attack on Titan 1:28:43 Watchmen 1:30:12 True Detective S3 1:31:20 Euphoria 1:32:07 The Crown 1:34:17 Squid Game
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I'm so tired right now
Please don't go a second wind
Because when the second wind
comes along it's like we'll go for like two hours
Which was what happened last time
Because you got a second wind and I was moody
So it's just like
Here we are
Good afternoon, morning, evening or night
Ladies and gentlemen
And welcome to episode 255 of the jar car
the first one of
2021. I'm your host Alex, joined by my
bro Jim. Hello. I'm a
bro James. Good afternoon.
Before we get too deep into
the show, let me shout out the journal media Patreon
who make the audio version possible.
They get earlier videos when we
have those in the pipeline
and it's not the holiday period
and
your names are read at the first week
of each month, which is
today. It's this one.
Um
They will be they get wet on the second week of the month
Yeah
This one
Just give us a break this once
We'll do it for the next one
Like
I don't know about you guys
I'm so knackard right now
It's the first as we record this
Just the new year
So it was up to like 4 a.m. last night
Getting shit faced
Um
Mm-hmm
Did you get
Face
I got shit all over my face
Just drenched in this stuff
With last night
Because we got together
Like early
Because we were like
We'll cook some wings or some fires
So I came here early
And it's like as soon as I arrived
I started drinking
And because my alcohol tolerance is non-existent
I was shit-faced by like seven o'clock
And I stopped
So like by two o'clock
I was fine
Went home
Book flights to Latvia
Boom
Good time
I introduced you to
The story of Ricky O
Yes
Yeah
We had a little
Binge of a few movies
Some shit ones
And some extremely good ones
Yeah Jim unfortunately
Missed out on Rikio
Yeah I missed Rikio
I love to show you at some point
I think you'd like it
But
We're gonna do something
A little bit different
This episode
Um
Normally there's a bit of structure
Oh okay
Dude this is crazy
What
So the TV we use
Is like
Gonna turn off
Yeah, it's annoying
Because it's annoying because my TV at home
The button for the TV remote
The remote just doesn't work
Because the shitty skybox
So when you have like a smart TV or whatever
The skybox just controls your TV
So when that pops up
You have to turn the TV off
And then we turn it back on
So you lose whatever you're watching
It's shit
I don't know if I've talked about this on the cast before
But
Smart TV is
Awful
One of my least favourite invention
I like smart TVs
because I've had to use
a Sky in the Smart TV age
where you have to go to your Sky menu
and then find YouTube
Sky does suck though
you could use Apple TV Amazon Fire
TV stick or something
anything's better than
like the smart TV
time to update your TV
time to
everything that everything is going to have updates
in the future
like buy a jacket
it's got to be updated
Yeah, and it like shows all ads and stuff.
It's so annoying.
Because jackets get updated and they just stop getting sold and they have this new one that's more expensive.
No, but you don't update the same old jacket.
No, you got a digital jacket that they could like patch.
No, how long until they have like ads on clothing?
They already do.
Like Supreme.
That's an ad.
Yeah.
No, but like I'm talking about like...
You get paid.
What about what if it would be like...
Surely you'll start with like trains.
trainers or something. There'll be like some kind of trainer that you can like change with your phone or something and yeah I don't think they're going to need like clothes aren't going to need sponsorships. But yeah, going back to smart TVs. I hate that they call them smart TVs as well because now when you buy a TV it can't not be smart. Yeah. You can only buy smart TV. Yeah. You can only buy smart TV. Yeah. You don't even have a choice at this point. I would pick a smart TV if there anything every day.
the week. I think they're great
because I've been deprived of smart TVs
for so long. But
I don't like the fact that they have ads for a PlayStation
on your smart TV. Yeah.
That might just be a Samsung thing.
I remember when that started
happening at being like a drama on
online a little bit.
They're patching in ads into my TV
because when I first got it, it didn't do that.
The updates that you
don't want, like just force it in.
But anyway,
I started to say we were going to do
something a little bit different for this episode and then we've got sidetracked by tech issues but
this is a 2021 wrap-up wrap-up of like just media it's it's i reckon just lay back just see where it goes
kind of just see where the conversation takes us i've got a list of certain things my some stand-out
movies games um and music mostly a couple of shows as well but we'll see what we get to um in time
What do you want to start with?
Because I've probably got the most, like, movie stuff.
You see, I don't have a particularly extensive list, but I'm sure I could talk in.
Mm-hmm.
There's some notable standouts.
I reckon we should start with what's freshest on the brain.
James, that being the new Matrix.
We can start there.
Yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to be, like, good things.
Just notes of all things from 2021.
So I had my first dip in of the Matrix franchise with...
So you've never seen a Matrix, but you've had a super unique experience.
I've never seen a Matrix.
I've barely seen a single scene from it.
Even the most famous scene I've never bothered watching.
It's like, it was like out of context and whatnot.
So yeah, you didn't even know the twist from like the end of the first act of the Matrix, you know?
Yeah.
So you were like, it was like a fresh experience as far as Matrix.
the Matrix story's concerned
and what did you think without any
the context and without any of the fan
service meaning anything to you?
It was fucking
it was awful. It's a terrible
movie and I think that's not like a
contrarian take.
It's shit.
But I found it weird because
it's like because I've known about the
Matrix for so long I thought it would be
something else. What the fuck
is this all alien shit?
Yeah, yeah. But that
That's what the Matrix is, apparently.
Yeah, it's like really anime-inspired kind of steampunky robot stuff.
I've had this weird relationship with the Matrix trilogy
ever since I, like, discovered them.
Where, yeah, you watch that first one, it's like, oh, this is so cool.
This is such a unique world.
This is such a cool story.
So, you know, philosophical and exciting and the action and the style of it.
and everything and the grittiness of it is
is really enticing in that whole
you know just that edginess
um then you watch the second one
and the third one and
I have I I just can't stand
the sequels to the movie so then it's
kind of like once you get to the end of the
trilogy you forget about how
good the first one is and you kind of write it
off in your or at least I do write it off
in my head a little bit but then
I think it was this year actually I rewatched
the first matrix
um yeah I did too
But just the first one, then I just left it.
And that's what you should do.
I just leave it like that, because it's a complete story anyway, basically.
Yeah, it's totally satisfying the way it ends in everything.
And I don't know if this is a bit of a spicy take,
but I think the sequels to the Matrix are way worse than the prequels to Star Wars.
Yeah, no, yeah, I would initially say that and I haven't seen them.
Way more boring.
Mm.
Well, yeah, to go back to the new one, that was my big.
thing it's like it's such a boring film it's so long as well it's long it's two and a half hours long
the action is worse um the acting shit just the the whole the the visual style of the movie
i wasn't expecting like dibby shit in it like dibby robots and like yeah now
they try to do some like well-building stuff and kind of touch on these cool ideas of like
the robots like having civil wars amongst each other and stuff but
but what it boils into is like this really obnoxious kind of meta commentary.
It's so meta.
They basically completely wet on Matrix.
Yeah, it's very like, it's, well, I was about to say it's not as bad as like episode nine
where it's like we're bringing back the emperor.
So then if you think about it, the whole conflict from the original trilogy
that wrapped up nicely and felt conclusive now has to kind of be undone.
Yeah, just so you can have the story continue.
They do, they kind of have to do that again a bit.
And they try to, like, they try to make it work, but.
And I've seen, like, such conflicting opinions on this movie.
Some people, like, love it.
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
And they're saying it's, like, such a refreshing take
and in this cynical age of blockbusters.
And, like, it's a whole slant of the movie, the whole commentary of, like, yeah, this.
Isn't it shit that, like,
it's all about remakes and stuff and it's like super yeah meta with like boardroom scenes like within the movie of them discussing
rebooting the game that already finished that's right yeah yeah um it's to be honest i if it's where it goes
after that first act where it like really devolves to me um i could imagine it having that first act
and maybe going somewhere a bit more interesting,
but, yeah, I went stow on it too long
because Jim hasn't seen it,
and I guess, spoilers.
Yeah, but I'm disappointed, though,
that you guys are saying it's shit.
I thought it was going to at least be entertaining,
consistently, and there are only, like,
one or two scenes that I thought were, like,
conceptually kind of cool,
with, like, putting some spin on, like,
the Matrix gimmicks.
I won't say what, but I think you'll know what I'm talking about, James.
There's like a couple of kind of cool things, but, yeah, overall, the actions way worse.
And apparently, I was reading, like, through the trivia on NDB, like, the cinematographer who did, the original trilogy wasn't there.
That's probably why, because the cinematography in it is terrible, and the lighting in every scene.
It's notably much worse, yeah, and the lighting was way worse.
just the fake sheen to everything and the score of the I can't remember who composed the
original trilogy music but it's really good the original music in that first movie especially
and it's really lacking it just it just feels like a parody of itself yeah it's lame
but my expectations were so low because in my mind because the balance was already like
there's way more bad matrix already
I guess if you don't count the animatrix.
Yeah, that's what you do.
You watch The Matrix and the Animatrix.
It's the Animatrix good.
Yeah.
It's actually decent.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know anything about it.
It's anime.
It is anime.
Nice.
Because The Matrix is super anime.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a bunch of different studios in Japan
came together and did the Animatrix.
Hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But it's like it actually explores the questions you have
but aren't filled in in that first Matrix movie and like a cool kind of creepy satisfying way
that's another thing there's like no creepiness or like kind of there is a grossness to that
first Matrix movie you know it's like scary in a way yeah there's none of that fear in this new one
it's kind of a generic love story ultimately the end of the day how is the love between
kianu and i mean kianu's just a really really um
he's not a good actor
how are you
yeah he's just a little
sweetheart and everyone loves him
it works in that first matrix
because
he's like the fish out of water
just like bombarded with information
and it kind of like works
and he's got like the really good physical
performance with all the martial art stuff
which just sucks in the new one
it's like such a downgrade
really
that yeah I was going to ask
the action
that's one of the more
disappointing things to me was like I thought at least they were going to do something with that
because that's kind of and I know it's part of the like commentary like yeah you you don't get
what you expect because it's like a cynical remake and it's being all self-referential
and it's all the point of the movie but it still needs to be entertaining at the end of the day
to me yeah and and are they going to make more do you think yep from the end of
I mean, it's just, it's just like the first matrix again.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, that, because to me, if your point is that, it's like the Deadpool thing again.
Yeah, I kept thinking that.
When you're criticizing something, but you're still just doing it.
Mm-hmm.
You can't really call that criticism.
Like, it doesn't make it okay just because you're aware that you're doing it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I felt some, I think.
I'll be curious what you thought, think of it, but...
Yeah, I was, I've been quite excited to see it.
Mm-hmm.
But, yeah, it's not even, like, funny, those are things.
It's just kind of boring and like that.
Just another one for the worst-case scenario.
Just another one for the 2021 pile of, like, just kind of...
Poo.
Unnecessary, uh, nostalgia-based, um...
Pooh, but this one's just a bit more meta than the other ones.
The other movie we watched James was the new Resident Evil movie reboot.
It's not the mere Djibovic one anymore.
It's a reboot that's trying to cash in on the recent success of the remade.
Yeah, yeah, the really good remix.
Instantly, like, Madrid is like a 1.
This is like a 10 on the enjoyment scale.
This movie was fun because it was so shit.
It was just shit, sloppy, and quite fun.
and I liked it.
I had fun making fun of it.
Yeah, it was one of those.
And I was just so frustrated by certain things, like,
that there's loads of imagery.
Yeah, like, you have to go to a facility in Resident Evil, right?
It's just one of the things on the check,
like one of the checklist.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the facility looks like a...
It's just a room.
It's just like a science lab.
Yeah, like a science lab.
Like a really lame one.
Like a really lame one from, like, a secondary school.
Like the cheapest one they could put together
that they had to actually use physical.
They got like a liquor in there.
It looks worse than the Paul W.S. Anderson one.
And the dogs.
Yeah, no, the dogs especially because we also happen to watch the W.S. Anderson one from 2002.
And the dogs in that looks so much better than the one from 20 years later.
Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of them were like practical, right?
Not that that 2002 movie's like good.
Can we saw that?
And that's actually shit as well.
It's awful.
It peaks at the laser war scene.
That's like the only thing of note really from it.
But yeah, this new one, they, they have a lot of fan service and use imagery from R.E.2 a lot.
Like they, like the police headquarters and...
Right.
It's the whole, the problem with this movie is like trying to capture Wesleyan Evil 1 and 2.
And like they, it pushes them together and makes this kind of clustering.
Mm-hmm.
messy
yeah
instead of just
focusing on
Leon and Claire
they also
shove in
Resker
then they've got
Jill
and then you've got
Chris
yeah
so two
simultaneous
stories going on
at once
only could have done
you only needed one
and they
they kind of use
like scenes
from REE2
like
you know one of the
best scenes
in the whole game
is that guy
who's like
in the jail cell
and Mr. X
like
they do that
exact scene.
Oh,
Christ.
Without,
Mr. X isn't in the movie.
Yep.
Instead,
there's just like a zombie in the cell with him
that's like slowly walking towards him,
even though he's got,
he's got Leon's gun.
And he's like pointing it at Leon.
And then the zombie,
it's like so bad.
It's like,
it just doesn't make sense.
It's so dumb.
And they make Leon like an incompetent,
like,
buffoon.
Yeah.
And people went fucking mad at the actor
Like he completely disappeared off the internet
Because so many people were giving him hate
But it's like
He was giving a shit script by
Yeah, it's like not his fault
He was cast
The directors and writers obviously
They have no idea Leon's character
They really don't understand it
And I feel that he probably could have been a decent
Leon with a decent script
Yeah, if they'd like fixed his hair
His hair was definitely wrong
He needed to be more like curtony
He needs to be a little bit dorky
Yeah, he needs to be dorky as her
but not incompetent like they made him
Yeah, he just seemed completely useless
Yeah, it was just
Shit
Claire
Claire was decent
I guess
She had the energy that probably could have worked in a good movie
And it was like
Every other scene is like a character
Like Claire coming in
And then like announcing their name
So then the people in the audience could be like
Oh it's
It's chill
Like they at the beginning
They just reference the dual sandwich thing
but you're not you don't know these characters because it doesn't actually yeah it's fucking
really weird it's really really really bad and then aida's in it right at the end
anything they throw every iconography because it's like in one scene leon's doing the leon pose in
resonable too and it's yeah yeah and it's fun to like point out and be like fucking doing that
in a if you like know resi but it's like a normal person like this movie but it's like um
it's like how it should have ended like oh
That's that thing that I know
The frustrating thing is I think
Resident Evil is a franchise
That could actually really work in film
But you need the right talent
I think James Wan could do it
Yeah
It needs the wacky
It needs the right tone
It can't take itself seriously
Yeah yeah
But also it has to
Be serious at some points
I don't know if serious is the right word
But it has to
It has to be self-aware
but not like
Deadport
Yeah
Yeah
Not take
Yeah
Not actually take the humor
Too far
Yeah yeah
Metta and shit
But that was
Poopies stinky
Probably one of the better movies
I've seen this year
I've only seen shit
So that's quite hard
If they're on the shit
Let's talk about red notice
I love red notice
I fucking love it
We've been saving this
Um
Because you watched it
When I was in Canada
didn't you?
We had a fucking great time
We straight up did
I gotta be honest
This is a movie
We're going into it
Jamie because we wanted to watch it
And I was like Jamie
Let's watch Red Notice
And Jamie was like no we're not watching it
Then we started watching something else
And it was like no we're watching Red Notice
So even Jamie didn't watch it at the time
And I was just like we're doing it
And I'll give it this
It wasn't as bad as I was anticipating
Yeah that's exactly it
when so i'm known for two things not liking the rock and not liking uh rham reynolds so when i
see there's a movie with both of them in it and galgado oh yeah and galgado um imagine all the
people uh your your expectations or my expectations were so so well the joke is that it like
looks like a fake movie like the whole poster it looks like some
fan on Debian Art made it.
Watching it, it doesn't seem like
a real movie either.
Yeah. I was surprised
that Ryan Reynolds didn't bother you more
because he was like
the part that was making it like the worst
for me. Because he's just, he's Depple.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's, you might as well just
enjoy the movie as like
he's like universe hopping and he's
just, Deb Paul has hopped into a
Yeah. Like a different.
That would have been a better movie.
Like,
that's the that's the thing with both of these actors that's so frustrating
is that when they're in something there's there's no there's no acting yeah
they're not actors but i guess it's what some people want they like that it's clearly
successful yeah it's one of the biggest movies of the year i was looking at like the roundup on
i mdb of like the most searched most looked at movies of the year and red notice was one of them
It was like a really depressing list of movies
It was like
The Eternals
Snyder
Justice League
What other crap was on there
I'm glad the Eternals was on there
Fuck is a free guy on there
Free Guy on there
Free Guy's being mentioned
A lot
That was a 2021
Big one
We've talked about that movie
Yeah yeah exactly
But the thing with this movie is that
There's like a twist
towards the end and now this is this is not a in a standard movie but it's a bad twist yeah it sucks
but because because the rock is so boring in every other film he's in yeah this twist in this movie
is like oh oh he like it's like they they used the the expectation the expectation of
the rock sucking and being boring to make the movie slightly more interesting.
That's what kind of bothered me about it though, because that's what it seemed like.
It was like, yeah, we know how boring he is.
And that's like the only thing you can do with him, you know?
Mm.
I don't know, it's just another one of the rock jungle movies to add to the like pile.
Yeah, the rock in a jungle.
But it's like they're going to, there's two, there's two more of these movies being made back to back.
As soon as they finish filming your second one,
they're instantly filming the third one.
How, like, the whole twist done,
they are just generic shit movies,
just like how we've said before,
picture what we just said,
when you're trying to mimic something and criticize it,
but you're still it.
Yeah.
It's pure just cut more fluff,
like Netflix just throwing money at, like, superstars,
and that's what sells it.
That's all they needed.
And it worked because it's done so well.
So many people have watched it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everyone in my work watched it.
Everyone was talking about web notice.
Yeah.
It's like there was another one on that like IMDB list of notable films of the year,
that Zach Snyder zombie movie.
Oh, the one of Dave Boutista.
Yeah, with him, which is also terrible.
But it broke correct streaming records and everyone saw it and they're making a sequel and
spin-offs and it's like, I guess, yeah, I guess this is it, man.
it's actually
yeah it's depressing
because you look at
when I look at the
the poster
of Red Notice
it's like
you know
that's a film I never want to see
yeah
that's why I put it off for so long
because it's definitely
that's what it screams
oh the Rock is wearing
cargo
cargo trousers
and a brown shirt
in the jungle
Let's talk about one
I think we liked
You haven't seen this one James
But Jim went to the cinema to see Spider-Man
No Way home
Yeah
Even the most jaded
Of fans seem to be enjoying this one
Yeah
It's
It's funny because
Going off of what we were just saying about Red Notice
this and that. This movie is very much like a product thing and it's this.
And a nostalgia cash grab thing. Yeah. Yeah, totally. But I love it.
Yeah. Same. I love it entirely and I've seen a bunch of people say that it's like poorly
paced or whatever. All these criticisms about the story structure and missteps they took.
and
this might be me
just totally vision clouded by nostalgia
but I couldn't care less
this movie
had me like hooked the whole time
and it made me feel like a kid again
I think it's the best of that
Spider-Man trilogy of Tom Holland movies
yeah
which I already like all three
I already liked the previous two
I thought they were both really good.
Yeah.
Yeah, it fixed a bunch of the, like, problems I have with the previous two.
Yeah.
Like, action scenes are, like, particularly stand out.
The music's better.
The whole, like, Dr. Strange stuff's really cool.
Yeah.
It's just, like, a fun Spider-Man movie.
It got the Spider-Man thing right.
Yeah, because the main problem with the first one to me is, like,
the Iron Man stuff
I don't like that they
needed like another
character for a Spider-Man movie
it doesn't seem necessary to me
I almost like it more now
like now that that's a trilogy
so that
it's more distinct
it's not like the main Spider-Man movie
is also an Iron Man movie
in the same way
it's still like a vehicle for
to put like the lizard and electrons
stuff in it and its inherent link to those movies is super strange um yeah and something i've
never seen before like you know like the mc u is kind of invented this the style of movie where
you basically have a checklist of movies you have to have seen prior for stuff to even make
sense and this is adding and taking it to the next level where it's like now you go to watch
yeah movies
from like a different studio
from a different age
and now it's spawned this like
well I've seen like some conversations
of people saying like they're scared
of what the knock on effect of this movie's gonna be
and I feel similarly
I totally understand that
but
what I reckon is gonna happen
like the whole cinematic universe thing
is that studios are going to try and ape this
and just fuck it up
and just totally screw it
Yeah, because that's the thing, it is all like at the end of it in service of a main character and I like a one and it feels like he's progressed as a character and it feels like a true superhero movie where it has like weight at the end and it has like emotional moments and the shit you'd want from a Spider-Man movie.
So yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by that because I was so concerned, especially with all this nostalgia shit, how they managed to make that work.
Yeah, and it doesn't feel forced.
it, Dr. Strange is like the money-making machine of the fact they got him working, yeah.
Yeah, but with that character now, they've opened the doors to movies like this.
Whereas before, if they did like a, I think if they did a Spider-Verse plot where Dr. Strange wasn't
involved and it was some machine or something, it would have been way harder to digest.
Yeah.
But because we've seen the stuff with that other character.
to, if you have seen that movie,
then, like, you just totally believe it and run with it.
Is there a lot of, um, influence because of Spider-Verse?
Because it's Spider-Vus did the same thing really well.
So was Spider-Verse is just a way better movie?
Spider-Verse is a better movie.
Um, and it feels like it's, it took some of the punch away from the, like,
it's not the first, like, big-screen adaptation of that whole Spider-Man multiverse.
idea, like they'll be into the punch in such a, like, vibrant way.
Mm-hmm.
But if anything, it helped it get made, probably.
Probably inspired them to push it.
Take the whisk, really, of it.
Yeah.
And obviously, Spider-Vus 2 is going to be a thing.
Mm-hmm.
Next year, this year.
Yeah, that's one to look forward to for this year.
Ten months. Ten months.
Whole months.
Mm-hmm.
Because I'm, I love Spider-verse.
It's probably one of my favorite movies.
I fucking love it.
Even though I'm not a Spider-Man, like, fan,
there's been times where you've tried to watch,
I think it's the second one,
and I'm like, I'm not watching it,
I'm just going to go upstairs and sit in silence
because I just don't.
But I appreciate it, though.
I did.
In the end.
Did you still not like it?
I missed it.
I can't watch them now and be like, yeah, I love them
because it's just like, I have no childhood nostalgia for it.
So I just see them as movies nowadays.
It's like they haven't aged.
well. See, there are some things that have aged, like, really well in them, I reckon.
Like, the whole Dock-Ock stuff looks incredible.
Yeah, like, that looks obscene.
And it has, like, the best scene from, like, any CPR movie, the hospital scene with Doc Ock is, like, such a cool.
Yes, it's, like, the best establishing of a villain.
Yeah, yeah, so, like, totally perfect for, like, that character.
Mm-hmm.
And it actually makes the...
The villain intimidating.
Yeah, yeah.
What else have we got here?
Eternal's.
Yeah, if we're on Marvel, I mean.
Any developed thoughts on Eternals?
I still like Eternals.
I still don't.
I dislike it more now, I think.
I wouldn't mind re-watching Eternals.
Yeah, I'll re-watch it at some point.
I'm not looking forward to it.
I don't think I ever want to see it again.
And, no, you're just being a hater.
I haven't seen the Rings Marvel movie yet
But I've heard that's actually pretty good
Yeah, I've heard that's good
I think it's on Disney Plus
I'll give that a shot too
Yeah
All the Eternals is coming to Disney Plus
On January 14th
Nice
The last like superhero thing I guess is
The sort of suicide squad out there
It's pretty fun
Yeah
I like James gone a lot
You see I didn't put that on my list
but
seeming as you brought it up
I really like it
I really like that movie
I think
I personally think
it's better than the first guardians
of the galaxy
really
yeah
I thought it was
probably funnier
I thought it was way funnier
and
maybe it didn't have the emotional call
it didn't have that heart
yeah it doesn't have the heart
but because it just
you know it's just inherently
way more dumb
but it did it it never like
annoyed me, whereas Guardians of the Galaxy
very much annoyed me.
I want to throw out
Dune. Yeah, that's
on my list. Yeah,
Dune is a big one.
I think I've seen it
four times now, three, four times.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm enjoying it
and finding new things each time
and kind of appreciating
it more and more.
Yeah, it's just such a
cool story, it's such a cool universe and
just that
commitment to the
kind of slower pace and it's like
proper, proper sci-fi
isn't it? Yeah, it's
it's like full-on dorky.
Yeah, like as dorky as dorky as dork can be
like you've got to read the wiki pages
and it
the fresh thing about it
is that it takes itself
so seriously. Yeah.
Which is what the
source material deserves and
yeah yeah it's
it's so tiresome when everything is
like funny
everything has to make you love yeah
yeah it's got like two jokes or something
maybe one yeah
and it doesn't mean there aren't characters like
smiling and
having a laugh and stuff in the movie yeah
it just means
yeah is that what people want from like
Dune is for them to be cracking jokes
it like it diffuses tension
like that that was what Marvel did
to begin with and it's why it's like
it's like levity
it makes it
the high stakes a bit lower
and it's like just more generally appealing
whereas when in
dune like shit's going down
and it's like oh this is like a real war
hellscape and it's yeah
but you know you just actually feel
that
like a good
example of the humor
the levity used like incorrectly to me is
Guardians of the Galaxy
2 when
this is his name Yondu
his
spoiler alert funeral
a joke is cracked
and it's
it like ruins the moment
the character
it feels like the character
wouldn't say it at that moment
it like yeah it can ruin a whole
scene but it's also just like
the wrong time to tell a joke
but anyway
yeah Dean
I've
it's a
rare type of movie where you sort of
I don't see this movie as a movie
right
oh like it's almost like someone found it
yeah it's just like a segment of this
it's like an artifact from
some ancient age
watching it at the cinema
in IMAX too
in IMAX it looked perfect
I didn't believe for a second
that anything was like CG
yeah the attention
to detail visually
is ridiculous
the story
isn't like the most complex thing in the world
it's pretty simple really
but it just feels like a
like
it's building
because it is only half the first book
yeah exactly that's what I mean by
I feel like the movie is both halves
and it will be like a six hour
movie yeah yeah
That's so cool that we're in a place where we can actually get that,
because I don't think that could have happened 10 years ago even.
No.
And it nearly didn't happen.
Like, the part two wasn't greenlit, even though he wanted, he wanted to just do it.
Yeah, they should have, because now it's going to be, like, a huge weight
and everything's going to be, like, way longer than if they'd, like, had the confidence the Lord of the Rings sit or something.
It's just like, it's an experience.
experience when you sit in the cinema and watch it i think that is how this movie should be
watched when you sit in the cinema and watch it like you're just there yeah yeah um a couple
more throughout there i want to throw out uh inside which is a netflix like the beau burnum
Netflix all right movie um i don't know if you guys are really that familiar of bo burnham but
yeah not particularly i'm not all i really know i've seen like the odd like the odd like the
of his um on youtube and his movie he did a few years back but uh it's out of the like lockdown art
that's come out so far it's the one that has captured that misery of um what 2020 lockdown
was like the most and it's like it's so well done and it's so impressive because he like did it all
himself um and it's so creative with like the the little tricks he comes up with to keep it vibrant
for the whole runtime and it's just i can't really go back to it or listen to the songs
despite how like clever and funny they are because it just makes me like miserable
that's like the sign of a good uh good bit of expression yeah coming out from that time
it captured it perfectly um i didn't realize it was about that i think i might have to check it
yeah and it's got some like really good uh like parodies and stuff in it and it's just really
clever and well written um i'll throw a couple more out here speaking of james one uh malignant is a really
it's not like amazing or anything but it's i think it's one i think james would enjoy it too
to be honest it's got like it builds to this it's a horror movie that builds to this like
twist and it's like such a
funny as fuck twist
and he like just goes in on the
ridiculousness of it and it's really
satisfying you just have to get there first
right um
it's super inconsistent and weird
um
yeah okay I'm gonna
end this section on
uh the green night
you heard of this one you've seen this one I've heard of this
this yeah really cool
um it's stay the imagery especially to stay with me
one of the
one of the prettier movies
from the year
with the striking visuals
and just the
composition of everything
is stuck with me
pretty slow
it's like
it's it is what it is
in terms of like
the pace
but
that was one of the more
notable movies of the year
do I mean
yeah I want to check that one out
there's a bunch
like I've still got to catch up on
I usually like spend
the year after catching
up as opposed to.
Yeah. There is one more
movie I want to drop
before we move on
that we watched quite early on
in the year, I'm pretty sure.
That's Judas and the Black Messiah.
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up
because I did have that note down, but I figured.
Yeah, this
movie
I love a movie
that, because it's
based on reality
and it
illuminates
like a dark part of
American history that
obviously they didn't want out
for quite a while
yeah it's like a performance showcase too
like yeah
treated with like real respect
and gravitas with all the actors
and yeah that's really well done that
yeah it's just an excellent movie
let's move on to games
Let's talk about some games
What do you want to start?
Like
I guess
Masked Legendary Edition
Um
A bunch of the shit
Like on mine I was like
Oh it's like
Just like re-releases
Yeah
And just the same shit
Repackaged
I had an interesting time with that
And
I like the three jar videos
That came out of it
So I went
We don't need to stay on that
For a particularly long
Because you can go on the channel
And find those
but yeah it it reignited and re-destroyed my love for mass effect i was glad i was not expecting to
reconnect with mass effect too specifically in the way that i did yeah it's like oh i've got like a
newfound appreciation for this this game um do you have any game to throw out then um yeah i well
okay what one that I know neither of you have played and I haven't played it like loads
I haven't even finished it but death leap the new arcane game yeah yeah you like it
I think it's really good it they that they misstepped in a few places because the
whole um you get like invaded like in Dark Souls by this character I forgot that was a mechanic
And it's all contextualised within the story.
And from what I've experienced
of the story, it's pretty fun so far,
but I've heard that the ending sucks.
But I'm not in it for the story.
The moment's moment gameplay feels so good
and is so fun.
Was that who developed it?
Okay.
It's like a dishonor.
It's quite dishonored like, isn't it?
Yeah.
But the thing with dishonorage,
and this is something Deathloops being criticized
for not having,
Dishonored had like a
Morality system
Morality system
So the more people you killed
The more the plague spread
It was like a way to incentivise
Stealth a bit more
Wasn't it sneaking around
Yeah yeah
Less killing
But it meant
All the interesting stuff
You could do in that game
Involved killing people
Yeah
That's the whole game
Was built one doing stealthy cool kills
Yeah
And you couldn't do that
If you're not playing that
Exactly so
And there's like a good ending
And a bad ending
I like dissonad
Knowing that
Yeah I think Desonnet is
really good, but knowing that there's a good ending
and a bad ending, I don't want to get the bad
ending, so I'm going to play the game
in the most tedious, boring way
because that's what's incentivised.
I'm going to use the sleep-dart
crossbow and choke
everyone out.
I've not
replayed
dishonored a bunch because
of that.
It puts me off.
Whereas Death Loop, the whole
idea is that
there's basically zero consequences
once you get through the early progression
and you become like really powerful really fast
once you get there
you're pretty much incentivised to just like
just say fuck it I'm going
and just run and gun just go mental
just play of the system they're giving you
yeah yeah and like
push it as far as you can
and there are flaws
like the AI the enemies sucks
Yeah.
Oh, really?
That's kind of a shame.
Yeah, they're really stupid, but when you are playing in that way,
where you're just, like, running around,
because you can die pretty quick.
So...
It's kind of like a rogue-like thing, isn't it?
Sort of?
Kind of.
The whole, like, loop thing where you're...
Yeah.
But the, like, there's four maps and four times of day.
Okay.
And you...
areas slightly change based on
the time, the four times a day.
Do you think it hurts it following on
from Prey, which like everyone
fucking loved Prey.
Yeah, and Prey, Mooncash.
Yeah, Mooncresher, especially, I've heard
is, um, which...
Does it better.
Yeah. Similar ideas.
Yeah, that's, that's
sort of the most frustrating thing about it.
But at the same time,
Moon Crash is like
always stressful.
Mm-hmm.
Whereas death loop is like, it's funny.
Yeah, that's the freedom you get from, like, having an expansion type of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Where it's like separated from, you can just play like the normal prey shit.
And then you can play Mooncrash if you want that more.
Yeah.
I think Moon Crash is probably like a better game.
Really?
Yeah, Moon Crash is.
Can you play Moon Crash without playing pro?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
You get the same, like, enjoyment, I mean.
Or is it better to play, pray?
Well, Mooncrash is, like, straight up a rogue like, pretty much.
Okay.
Whereas Prey is, like, a...
I've only watched, like, one video on it, like, from when it came out sort of things.
Yeah, yeah.
Vague in my head.
But it does sound cool.
Yeah, I'd highly recommend it if you haven't played it before.
But, um...
Yeah, definitely, fun game.
Um, the invasion stuff is annoying.
because I
want to interact with those systems
but when people
like I got invaded
early on by this guy who
had unlocked like all the powers and
the sniper rifle and
it just put me off immediately
it's like how am I gonna
did you learn to adapt to that or
well it's optional
so I ended up
turning you can still get invaded by like
an AI but again the AI isn't very good
okay
Yeah, that just sounds like it would be frustrating
when you're like trying to learn the game.
You're basically just going to be shit for like a few hours.
I think something maybe they should have done
was just not have you be invaded for a while
and then have like it be a moment.
Once you're like kind of good at the game maybe then.
Yeah, and you figure it out and stuff
because it just immediately put me off.
Yeah.
I want to quickly, I didn't finish this game
and only surface level engaged with it
but I want to mention
psychonauts too
because
from like all the trailers and stuff
I was like
this doesn't really look like
something I'd like
but because at Game Pass
I just downloaded it
when it came out
and I played the whole like
intro thing
where you're going through
this weird like teeth
thing and it's like
super creative
and the writing
was really clever too
and the way it was
like implementing
these kind of
psychological
ideas as like
villains in the game
and it's all like
the
the main characters like voice and stuff being like billy from the grim adventures yeah grim
adventures uh really cool um yeah it's stunning as well yeah the art direction is incredible
art style mm-hmm because it came out around the same time as that new rat chit and clank which
yeah isn't really the kind of and all their like reviews like iGN say and it's like yeah it looks
like a Pixar movie and all this
and
it's like
I don't love the odd direction of those
like ration clank and like the character designs
and stuff especially
yeah it looks more like an illumination movie
or something yeah not a pixel
yeah maybe maybe illumination might be a bit harsh
because I haven't actually played that ration clan
but I've never been
there's not like a spark of like oh that's like cool
in the same way psychonauts is like
maybe I just like things that are bit kind of weird
and offbeat because it's definitely
fucking weird
it's a really
really weird game
because we all
played it because we did that first level
we were all here
and we all kind of had a little play
of it and it feels great to play
it feels very good
psychonauts is a game
I just respect because it's just so
out there it's just so not normal
and that's yeah
I appreciate that
and I think so I would like to play
a psychonauts too
I just have not been able to get
the opportunity to
um
a game I got a lot of
enjoyment from
I don't think it came out in
2021 but I think the version I played did come out
in 2021, the ultimate edition of
control
from the
what, the Max Payne developers
Remedy. Remedy, yeah, yeah.
I haven't really played a remedy game before.
You have?
Which one? Oh no, you haven't
no, ignore me. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking Max Payne
Free. Yeah, Jim has always talked about
the original Max Payne's and how good they are
and I've always heard that and respected them for that
but I never like felt it like myself
and the whole gimmick of control
as like the telekinetic powers
yeah and as far as like game feel is concerned
holy shitters it feels so it's so satisfying
and knowing they're like building like a four player
like thing like spin-off thing with that gameplay
um setting you might mention it before
but yeah yeah yeah like that to me is like oh there's some
potential there for some like crazy fun um but yeah just as far as i could not get enough of that
gameplay loop and the the progression i found navigating the world like really obnoxious and
annoying yeah but it was worth it for me once you like start once you get the flying ability
that's when it's like oh this is like this is like a different game because you're playing it
and it's like yeah i wish there was like something something something holding it back just a little
but then you get the flying ability.
That's when it's like, oh shit.
This is like really, really fun.
That game has always intrigued me if it's like just design of flying enemies.
Yeah, visually, it's really cool.
The story, like, I don't know what happened, but it was awesome.
Yeah, I love the way it's presented.
A lot of games to me, when they try and be cinematic,
they just copy the most bog standard cinema shit.
Unchired
That is just a cinema game
Yeah
Whereas there's this just atmosphere
This actual tangible feeling
To this place
Like
But also uses
That interactive nature
A bit more
To tell the story too
Yeah
I don't think you got to it
But it's called like
The maze
The matchstick
Something like that
There's like a set piece
Towards the end
That is like
Whoa
This is really fucking
Creative and cool
Yeah
One you want to bump
Yeah yeah
So I'd really recommend playing control if you hadn't.
I think that was like a game of year from like 2020 or something.
It's another one of those games where I've not been able to play it
because I haven't had a console PC that can.
Obviously since I've upgraded graphics cards and whatnot.
Oh yeah, because that's what put me off playing it at first
because apparently it ran like shit when it came out.
Yeah, that's the reason I kind of stopped playing.
Because you brought it on Epic, didn't you?
Yeah, I think I did.
Because I won't do that.
I refuse to use Epic.
But when it comes to Remedy, I got to support...
Was it an exclusive or something?
Yeah, have a launch.
Lame.
But it's on game purse now.
Just it's just on Steam?
Yeah, it's on Steam now as well.
But at first, it wasn't...
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I was really enjoying my time with it.
I stopped playing shortly.
after I got the flying.
Okay.
Because it kept, like, stuttering.
It should be patched up and run a bit better now.
Yeah, yeah.
I have started it again since,
but it's just got an Apex Battle Pass to finish,
you know what I'm saying?
What we can do about Apex?
There's been a lot of Apex Legends gameplay
between the three of us.
Apex has continued to be in my number one game.
It's not changed.
I play Apex every day.
an Apex is a great game and it's in a great place.
Yeah.
Yeah, it remains to be just the best battle real.
The only multiplayer game other than...
Playing it the amount we had, and I don't think I've played it as much as you guys even,
but it's made me so much better at shooters.
Yeah.
Because it feels so good, especially.
There's no FPS that feels as good as a lot.
that's that's the main thing i don't care because this is why i play time full too so much as well
just moving around feels giving around feels amazing the like different character abilities are
like mostly really fun everyone like settles into like a small group of like the types of
abilities and play styles they like yeah um and me other like new maps pretty fun and the thing
with Apex is the last year for first
person shooters has been atrocious.
Battlefield is just a mess.
I've not even touched it. I think it's probably one of the worst games
come out on ages. Then COD
came out. The new COD came out
terrible. Then because of the new cod coming up, it's made
Warzone terrible, nobody wants to play Warzone.
So there's the only consistent FPS
that's like, the formula's right and it
just does everything as it should
is Apex. Because
the Halo Infinite, as you've talked about, great
gameplay but it's like they've fucked up
the systems that make you want to play it constantly
so the only one
that's like just you can get in and play
and it will just be good is Apex
and it's just keep it's keeping
going and I'm going to keep playing it
I fucking love Apex
yeah I'm happy
with my relationship with that game
it's just like one of these services
you don't play it all the time you will like jump
in after two weeks yeah yeah we'll do like
a whole big session and then that's it
and you still get the same enjoy
moment that I do out of it yeah I never would have anticipated to be like to have two free-to-play
games like in my roster at this point yeah what's the other one hello infinite oh yeah
should we should we well we made a hole with you on it don't we did we no wait what oh because
it's fucked isn't it yeah that video's never coming out we lost that also um I campaign has
come out mm-hmm I've we might as well talk about a little bit is a no
notable thing we've been building up for a long time so we just start where where it matters i've
slated this game since day one i've beaten this game while it was down and rightfully so it did
deserve it they've messed this up completely but playing it it does feel great it feels great they've
nailed what they needed to nail yeah they actually made a halo game yeah like so oh it sounds like
Halo. It looks like Halo.
It feels like Halo. Yeah, that's the thing.
Because like Halo 5, removing Halo from, it feels
good. Like, I think it feels like a good
game. Yeah.
But it's not Halo game. It's wrong.
Like, the flow of combat's different.
The movement just fucks, just shit up and
changes it from a core foundational level
into something else. Just an awful era
for video. Whereas, yeah, they simplified it. They changed the movement.
You can still, like, sprint and slide, but sprint is
like nothing really it's like really not an issue um i still don't think sprint should be in
the game yeah i'd prefer it not to be there if i had a choice but i guess compromises whatever
um that the grapple hook kind of changes it uh it's so much fun to be like a pathfinder
and in the single player basically from apex that's that's the most surprising thing that
they've managed to make a grapple that feels as good as the apex slash time
it's yeah I think they made it feel like a halo replica
yeah the way the physics work it like never gets old and you can like really
angle it in like certain ways and pull off really satisfying just like moments in the
sandbox and it feels really sandbox one one thing I found is that I'm enjoying
halo because it's like my YouTube algorithm is like short clips of really cool effects
you're actually seeing halo clips being shared around and stuff yeah people like I just
watch one earlier today where
people have found out that like you can just like speed runners have like broken the game and you can oh yeah
you can like using glitch into a pelican and then fly out of bounds and just fly to like the
last level and just finish the game yeah you can like really abuse the like out of bounds and
shit it's like really yeah and it always felt like three four three was scared of that sort of thing
with yeah yeah that's what's so cool about the yeah it's like they realized one of the positives
with the open design of that section.
Insane that, though.
It's all well and good having Halo gameplay,
but when you don't have Halo gameplay with Halo levels,
you've lost something.
Especially at Halo levels, you can't even,
as of recording this, like, replay.
It's so strange, it's so dumb.
Yeah.
And the thing is, I've had this itch of, like,
I want to play PVE Halo.
Mm-hmm.
But I don't...
No co-op hurts it so much.
No co-op, and...
the campaign missions
the levels
I don't like any of them
bar one
two yeah there's like
if I try and remember each one
they're so they just blend into one
there's nothing really distinct about any of them
and they don't have like moments
never really
Halo's whole thing is moments
yeah every level has that moment
where it's like fuck yeah
yeah
but it's yeah it does get repetitive
after a while
yeah
environment thing especially is the environment yeah just a bit much i've been i started my legendary
play through like yesterday um i've been enjoying that it's like it's definitely better balance
than like halo reach legendary feels way more fun you can i was worried that it was going to be
way too hard no no you can actually use the grapple and like engage with the sandbox that
isn't just like hiding behind like mars away and just picking shit off in the most boring
gameplay style ever and with a plasma pistol but that is some that's a problem i found specifically
was nine times out of ten it is best to be far away in in the combat and the fobs that you
get throughout the game the bases you can get whatever weapons in the game you want as the game
progresses makes it way too easy you'll never you you never have to think about what what weapon
you're like if you kill a grunt and you're low on ammo and he's got a plasma pistol yeah
I feel like you have to pick that up as far as like actual open world like game design is pretty
bad in my opinion yeah like it feels like it's that fuck yeah it's that far cry problem
yeah where you're being given all these tools
but why would you use
all these tools
when there is
an objectively correct choice
I would I think
if I could have had a choice
or say in the matter
I don't
I don't think it needed
the open world to be as big as it is
I think just having multiple
smaller really large maps
and trying to work with that
instead of the crazy broadness
and it is cool like being able to go
to the top of mountain and seeing like
all the monuments and like places you are going to go like get that side of it but so much was lost
because of that decision yeah and especially there's been no thought put into how you traverse through
the map yeah you just grapple everywhere that's one thing three four three have never got right is
the vehicles they're not right the way they like work in the sandbox the grapple has kind
of fucked the whole thing yeah um the grapple is like so powerful um against vehicles
Yeah, I do think in multiplayer, though, the vehicles are pretty correct.
They're too weak, I think, in terms of how much health they can, like, damage they can take.
And, yeah, wot hogs are a bit off.
I like the wot hog.
That's my favorite in the game.
But, like, the banshee is totally useless.
Yeah, yeah.
I never used a tank in there.
yeah it's just like all of all of my like concerns that I was listening on the cast for like months were basically all correct about like the multiplayer and how like just fucked like and bare bones it is and how like it's like the worst unlock system ever in halo games it's actually worse than halo fives it's so fucking bad we were just praising apex for the way they like reward you for everything and these like mini events to try and get you in and stuff and halos like ape that and copied it but they fucked that
it's so shit.
It's so easy to do like a small event
because I do every Apex small event
it's just like I go on for 15 minutes
I just do the little things
and I'm always going to finish it
but from what I've heard
it's like you have to just be like
you've got to do it every day or one day
you have no control
you can't sit down and be like
I got like four hours today
I just want to grind out this event
just get all the shit from it
just get it done on my own time
that's the good thing about Apex
it has challenges but there's like a next level
So if you invest another hour or two
You're gonna finish the events quicker
Yeah
Because you've just done that extra bit
But like yeah
In Halo Infinite
Like the Christmas event
That's on as we're recording this
It doesn't have challenges
So you can't do challenges
To progress through it
The only way you can level it up
Is by doing one game a day
And that's how you go through it
Yeah that's bad
That sucks
And it means like the rewards at the end
Because I've been away for Christmas
There's stuff I just straight up
can't get like the alluring stuff at the end of it like it's physically impossible for me to get
because I was like two days like behind so I just can't I think it's a completely purposeful
design that they just want like the retention yeah in the most extreme degree they want to be
able to look at the figures at the end of mouth be like so many people played it's like
they're not playing if they're doing one match a day and there has been backlash to the store
in it but it wasn't like battlefront two levels so I
think they've gotten away with it. I think it's
fucked as far as the store's concerned
like just the response to the cat ear's stuff
and it's just selling like
hot cakes. Yeah people complain
online but they're looking at the
numbers probably and seeing like
whales. They're going to be making
make a minute. The cat is like a micro-transection
yes 10 quid. Fuck.
Fuck. I'd buy that totally
but that's bad. Yeah exactly
so I've already noticed
that we've complained in Apex before
about how the visual style is like
Just gets ruined really quick
I've already noticed that
Where it's like these fucked up skins
And everyone like hardly even looks like Spartans
See it took colourful like
It took apex a while for them to get to that level
So we're starting basically at that
So yeah cat is from the get-go
Yeah
The game has been out a month
Like I'd sunk like well over 100 hours
Into the well into the first season of Apex
and there was nothing like that
the skins
the obscene skins
were really kind of
law accurate and they worked
when just the whole choice
to have the first season of Infinite
be based around Halo Reach
but then charging you
for a bunch of the armor
then it's like all linked to this game
that had the best
like customization
armor like customization
out of any Halo game
yeah best progression
so to remind yeah the progression
like to remind you of that
through the new one and just how bad the new one is and how little control you have over
it feels lame but i will say though the the gamer has me coming back because it's so fun
yeah i actually feel like i'm getting halo moments out of it yeah it gives me like stockholm
syndrome oh i have major stockholm syndrome right now yeah i'm pissed off at it yeah i'm really
You know, big team battle is broken, and it has been broken for weeks.
Really?
Yeah.
It's like a known bug.
It's even in, like, the menu of the game, like, saying about it.
Like, it's something to do with, like, the servers or something.
Like, you can just queue up, and it will just break.
So, I activated a boost.
Like, yeah, I got, like, an hour.
Let's just play some big team for a bit.
And I was, like, cue in.
wait it for 10 minutes
I was like what's going on
why is like what is happening
meanwhile the time is ticking down
I got into one game
it was all fucked like desynced
like laggy as hell
like super unbalanced
and fucked up
and so yeah
I got like one game in
out of like that whole hour
and I just felt like
fuck you
see no no no no no no
and the challenges as well really bad
it's just a real
yeah real missed opportunity
boosts are the single
worst thing to ever happen in gaming
to fill your season pass
with fucking boosts
is actually just
score, Stan?
Yeah, I hate it.
It straight up doesn't make sense.
Yeah.
Do you know what's the good thing
Apex does boost?
It's not something you use.
It's just like, okay, you've just got
passive boost.
Do the whole season you get like triple X-B.
Boom, that's just, it stacks.
Boom, you don't have to use it.
It's just like this, they go.
It's like, at least like,
if you're going to have boosts,
be like, the next three games,
you get double XP.
Yep.
Something like that.
I don't.
I can know that it be it has to be passive
over the the timer that goes down
yeah even in the menus like that's so lame
do you know what's the lame thing about those timer ones
though they're always there's always
there's always a pack of them in the store for like 10 quid
yeah 25 boosts
shit
shit cod did it as well
yeah hate it that's the first time I saw it
and I had like hundreds of things I'd never use them
because it's just like what why would I get yeah
I refuse to use them
I wouldn't use them in HALO
it's just
bollocks
pure fucking shit
yeah
I'm sure Hela will come up again
at some point
I've got one more game
I don't know if you have any more Jim
before we go there
I really need to pee
okay I actually need to pee as well
I should two things I want to mention
just before we move on
to final games
I would have mentioned this in housekeeping
but we didn't do it this week
one
we should have said on the last cast
or in Cringmast or something that
we weren't going to have a cast
this past Monday
Yeah
Surely the charlings are intelligent enough to know that the
Cringmoth special was that video
Yeah normally I guess it lines up better in a year
Where it's like
December was like crazy
It was a messy month
Yeah such a fun
fuck-fucky month um so yeah i was disappointed because we don't normally miss weeks we didn't
i wouldn't say we missed one i mean you see in post on like the subreddit saying like nine
days since the last since the game cast yeah yeah just like yeah i don't know how that
happens slip through the cracks um literally cool and the one other thing was i saw a couple
comments and posts
over the last
like few episodes and weeks about
like pod bean like ads being played
on the the Spotify
version the audio version
I don't know what that is about
um I'll try and look into it
pod bean that's like the
RSS feed host
who host the jarcast um
it's like the whatever
um
but apparently there's like some kind of ad that's been playing
the beginning of stuff on subject of ads
Have you noticed anything with YouTube recently?
Well, the dislike's going.
Because obviously, when you do ads, you can choose
skippable and unskippical ads, right?
Yeah.
Every channel's got unskippable ads.
Channels that never do ads from a moral point of view
and now got four unscriptable ads.
I've noticed it with our channel as well.
There's something fucking weird going on with the ads on YouTube.
Yeah, sometimes they, like, update things,
or, like, there's just, like, weird tweaks that
fuck around with it
I don't know
um
it's weird
like that pod beam one
I don't know
well that's about
I'll try and I can do it
anyway
the last game I wanted to
throw out was uh
gears tactics
I've wanted to play that one
really fun
I like Xcom a lot
and it's kind of like a simplified
version of Xcom
with a gears of war skin
but the rules of
Gears of War
translate really well
to that style of game
I had a really good time playing that
I have it downloaded
because it's just on GamePass
Yeah again it was a GamePass thing
Just
like control it was like
Just the right amount of like game
You know it's like not another service
That just has to go on forever
It's just like yeah
That was a nice just game
Yeah it's nice to have
Really game really video gamey video game
Yeah speaking of
A short one I just want to drop in
is Resent Evil.
We've already talked about
Western Evil today.
Do you like it?
Good game, funny game.
The story is like
the stupidest thing, but it
worked for me. It really
did. Right, did that game come out this year.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of
earlier in the year, but
we've been getting lost in the
2020-2020, missed.
The collective brain
frog where yeah
it's like impossible to distinguish
anything in that timeline
I just straight up can't
and I don't know how to I guess
it's so confusing
yeah it's just been a
nightmare chaos two years
but yeah Resident Evil the
the Rienjin
has the most like
squelchy
satisfying
beast zombie
yeah
werewolf shooting
some really impressive
like character models and shit
yeah yeah beautiful game as well i don't know how the hell it it ran perfectly for me
no troubles yeah and it looks genuinely incredible yeah i said i don't want to play the first
person resident evils that's just a me thing um because i loved r e2 i thought r2 is so fucking
good um but yeah i didn't get around to rye yeah should do a quick shout out to the
gtale online dlc
make a new game you fucking cunt
fucking no that actually pissed me off
when the rumours of like dray
was coming in to
yeah to do a gta soundtrade
and it was like oh
they're just updating their like 10 year old game
no great
a game I have no interest to play
because it's like you want to do all this cool new content
drop literally like a thousand pound on shark cars
to even get like a tiny bit of the content
yeah added
I swear the longer game like that goes on the more fuck the economy becomes
Oh yeah
It's like oh yeah
Like it's kind of a problem in destiny as well
It's just like the bigger pool of shit you have
Like the more like cunty there
It's just that is capitalism
Because it's like we're going to have a huge crash in the future
Because it's just getting more fucked
Because there's so much more more more more
Well yeah because
that's what killed destiny for me
was when they added in that awful store
the other verse
and yeah
it kind of just
it just makes it tacky
it makes it like oh
it's like a lute bass game
what are you doing?
Yeah that's that's lame
but um
want to do music
yeah
just do music
yeah
got a few ones here
a few uh 2021
bangers
you might as well start
with Donda
No, don't be angry
I can be angry
Donda's good
I love Donda
Donda
Donda
My knee jerk to Donda was
It's Kanye
But it's kind of shit
That was my knee jerk
And then I listened to it more
And then
I couldn't help but listen to it more
No you give yourself Stockholm syndrome
I don't like this thing
but if I keep with this thing
I'll eventually like it
is what your mentality was
I didn't listen to it
too like it
I listened to it
You forced yourself to listen to it
No I'm literally saying I did the opposite
No you shale did
No I listened to it and it
Something fell off
I don't know but
I was like
Hold up off the grid
That shit kind of slapped
Yeah
Off the grid to me was like
like the main reason I kept listening to the album
because I like Jail from the get-go.
God Breathe is a bad song.
And then off the grid is just like a straight-up langer.
There are a couple of songs I really don't like on it,
but I think overall there are more I do like.
As an experience, I like the whole album.
Yeah, me too.
I think not the part two very much, but...
And I don't really like the deluxe.
version? Yeah, I haven't
really listened to that much.
Yeah, he made some weird changes
and... Although I'm glad he put the
Andre 3,000...
Yeah, yeah.
Unfiltered, single.
Yeah, for sure.
Um...
Yeah, we talked about it before.
I've mentioned this
and I...
When I did that, like, Sardonicast
live stream, there was, like, towards the end
there was a question about, like, what's so...
was so an album from 2021 um you like and i'm so fucking embarrassed because i was like so tired
and a bit drunk and i said um oh there's this little mix album that's so good and i meant i meant
little sims oh fuck bro yeah i just saw a comment that was like little mix i was like oh fuck i can't
believe i did that but uh little mix aren't even together anymore i know
yeah i didn't i didn't catch it but uh little sims sometimes i might be introvert fucking
oh mm-hmm they're supposed to see her live um in december but it just it's too much going on
you would have got covid yeah 100% yeah if i got covid from gorillas i definitely would
have got covered from a little sims one um yeah check that out and if we're mentioning gorillas the
Meanwhile EP is really good
We saw
Do two of the songs live
When we saw the Now Now
Sorry the song machine tour
Yep
Like they kind of debuted some of the songs there
That was great
Need to listen to those songs again
Because I enjoyed them live
Yeah all of those are really good
And actually
Damon Albaughan's solo project
That's like Iceland based
Or whatever has a really good song
On it I've been listening to a lot
Yeah.
Royal Morning Blue.
Yes.
I'm a big fan of that.
Do you have any throw out there, Jim?
Speaking of Iceland.
I think it was Iceland.
So I've been gradually going through Death Stranding again and
there's low raw songs that played periodically throughout the game.
it's such a change of music taste for me
to go to something that sounds like so serene
and sort of... Yeah, it's more ambient.
Yeah, and Ooooo, sad boy sort of vibes.
But I love the singer's voice.
I don't know his name, but I love his voice
and I just love what they're going for.
So the album
May be tomorrow
by Low Rule
I've listened to that
Yeah, whenever I hear
Low Roar I like what I hear
Yeah
Yeah, there's
There's just a weird thing
It's like a problem with me thing
When it comes to music like this
Like
I feel like I'm not allowed
Do you know what I mean?
No, what do you mean?
No, because it's like
Ubu Sad Boy
You know
Like James makes
fun of my music taste for not being hard enough.
I do make fun of your music taste a lot.
Yeah, because James...
I have reason for that because...
Yeah, because your toxic masculinity...
No, I have reasons for that,
because the only time I ever listen to your music taste
is when we go to McDonald's only...
It's only been for an entire year, Donda and Tyler the Creator.
I have good reasons to mock your music taste.
No, that's simply not true.
It's because whenever something else,
like Low Rawl would come on, you'd be like...
Quench, then forcefully
change it. Yeah, pretty much.
And you'd be like, wow, your music
taste just isn't hard enough.
It's like, what?
So maybe it's all...
I take back what I said about it being a problem with me
and it's a problem with James that he's making me
insecure about my music taste.
No, you shouldn't be insecure about your music taste
because I literally listen to K-pop
while you're in my car.
Yeah, but I'm not rude about it.
you are you literally
forcefully changed it when you were in my car
no I vibe
I vibe the driver
gets decision
and obviously
it's Tyler the creator
yeah seeming as you brought him out
call me if you get lost
cool me if you get lost
great great album 10 out of 10
yeah and
honestly
I know I say this kind of shit a lot
because I'm
I exaggerate
yeah we all do
but I think
this song
this album has my favourite song of all time
on it
really the amount of times
I've listened to it
Corsu
Mm-hmm
There's genuinely
something about it
the
The themes
The
He's just being so fucking honest
Mm-hmm
And I respect
I respect
Yeah
I got a couple
I'm a standouts from that one too
I can't remember their names
but
really fucking good
yeah yeah to me that
there's only one song
that I'm not crazy about
and even then
it's only like the first
half of the song I don't really like
I really like the second half
and that's the song that follows
Coursu
how do you rate
what's your
favorite album of this
of Tyler's
still
Eagle.
I want to throw out
I don't live here anymore
with the war on drugs.
This is like a recency bonus one for me
the last few days I've been listening to this album.
It's got some really good songs on it.
Yeah, I listened through it a while ago
but
I've only really been
obsessed with one song from it.
Yeah.
I've got three or four I really
really like on it.
um yeah it's still early thoughts on that one there
of like where it sits in
i think it's better than their previous album
more distinct
because that they were falling into the
seems a bit kind of similar to the previous album like thing going on
but yeah no this because this is the only album of those i've listened to
other than
what's the other one called that i
I can't remember their names
like I remember
Lost in the Dream or something
yeah I remember the album covers
like more yeah
yeah I remember this this album has a terrible
cover
oh yeah I hate it
it's like a white square
with them drinking a cup of tea
and a triangle in the corner
it's really weird
yeah it looks like a dude
yeah walking in snow
with a guitar and a cup of coffee
and a plaid shirt
it's just like the most
yeah it sucks
history sort of shit
but yeah
yeah I like their sound
you probably like this more than me
but an evening was Silk Sonic
Yeah
Yeah I did
It's not high art or anything
And it's goofy as fuck
And I just laugh
Listening to this album
Because it's
It's just horny as fuck
Oh yeah
That's basically the album
It's horny and then being stroppy
About like
yeah not very important shit and I like
I like just having an album that
in total contrast to low raw
it just makes me smile and feel happy
I'm a I'm a big Anderson pack fan
I think he's really fucking good
I don't really listen to Bruno Mars particularly
yeah this this album made me like Bruno Mars
whereas before I
it's a surprising a good combo
yeah especially like
whatever the singles were they released for it those are still probably my favourites yeah smoking
out the window in particular i was pleased to see thundercat on there as well because yeah i love
that song thundercat is one i got into in 2020 um loving and stereo came out the uh jungle album
as well the drama based music genre which is good um and
just two more throughout the
the turning wheel by spelling
really good
that's also kind of a new one for me
I've been going through
and I want to shout out
our uncle's
EP they've played on Spotify
the build back better EP by pop gang
if you want obscure
go find out
that's indie is indie you can get
yeah that's that's and
Jowlings will
like that the cover is like
the proto pisser
yeah the
it's
it's the
original pisa it's pre pisser
what do they they call it
the hell car yeah yeah that's right
so go check out
build by battery P
on Spotify
any other music
throughout there do what about you James
did you have anything
musical that stood out to you
or is it kind of the same
it's kind of the same
I've mainly listened to stuff that isn't this year.
I've just gone back.
I've just gone back because to listen to things I should have listened to.
So I've not really got many to talk about.
Yeah.
But to be honest, the artist who's like defined the year for me is MF Doom
because I had the like David Bowie thing of the where like I wasn't that familiar with the discography.
But then when they passed away, it kind of was the unfortunate spark that got me in.
God, there's so much good shit.
Oh, there's so much, so much good stuff.
And I'm just the wordplay, I just can't get enough of how creative that, that writing is.
The monkey.
So, I mean, as we kind of simmer down now, towards the end, it's the TV section, but I don't really have anything too new.
these are just kind of notable things
I checked out in
2021 as far as TV is concerned
I watched like all of attack on Titan
you did
did I mention it on the cast
I can't remember
I'm pretty sure we talked about it
but I watched all of it and then I
went and read the manga to the end
because I'm
I'm torn on it because I don't know
how much of the bad writing is
because of bad translations
because I don't think
when I was reading it
is officially
been translated and released
in the UK
or you know
so it's really hard to tell
because that's like an art
in and of itself
like translating
the stories because
there's the whole
the pain with anime or manga
is like it's finding that
that one good translation group
is knowing that group
because I've watched like
initial D with a different group
and it's like
shit
hitting hell that's like a huge difference
so it's like you can get some really
obscure series where the people
who've translated it's like a shit
translation and that's it just
will ruin your experience well yeah localising
is like an art in and of itself so
I don't want to be too
cruel but I think
I was like super disappointed
with where it goes and
how it ends I thought it was like so bad
but
yeah because I watched season two and three
this year as well
and it's like just
I was
I don't know if my just
expectations and standards
were too high as well
for the show
but when the like
Titan fights turned into like
that kind of
CG style
as opposed to
it was CG that had hands
hand drawn like
yeah
it's it doesn't look as good
as those first couple of seasons
and then after that point
like I get it like the scale gets to such a degree where they would need unlimited time and money basically to achieve some of the stuff that they have to achieve but at the same time it's like it doesn't have the same effect on me if something is lost but I still read the whole thing I mean I enjoyed myself for what it was worth but yeah great first season one of the best
I watched the
HBO Watchman
The Trent Reznor soundtrack
Yeah that's actually the main reason I watched it
Because I wanted to watch it
I'd had some of that soundtrack on my Spotify
Ever since it came out
But I'd never had it contextualised by what actually happens in the show
But
Amazing soundtrack
And it made me kind of respect the
The writer of it more
It was the guy
He's got a bit of a rep
For these like awful
I think he's been linked to like
J.J. Abrams and lost
It's like one of those guys
But
But the angle
It felt like a like an else world like
Watchman take
Where it's like
Modernizing it in a way that
It's like clever
It's like a fun spin
And it's not like
Overriding the original
Or anything
Like the original still happens
and it has some really memorable cool characters
like the Buster Scruggs guys
has such a standout in my mind
I really like that character actor
but
yes it's cool, clever
Watchman is just an interesting universe
it doesn't fully come together
and there's some
there's some weird stuff in there
have some bad dialogue here in there
but overall I thought it was really cool
up to the HBO standard
another HBO thing
actually there's a lot of HBO here
True Detective season 3
I checked out
it's okay
I just feel like
season one was
abnormally good
so anytime you try and follow it up
it's like never the same
it never reaches the same heights
you never have the
as good as the like
lead to actors you're going to have
like it's never the same
as that first season
and never has the
the level of dialogue or the
the like dramatic moments and just the
just that bayou setting of that first season
it's just so cool it's so creepy and fucking weird
and like spinning the true crime angle
to make it feel fresh even though it's like so done to death
I think whereas season three is a bit more like
yeah this is true crime like stuff it's cool
good actors good drama
it does kind of vaguely link back to the first season
which the second season doesn't do
yeah I enjoyed that
it was okay and
another HBO thing was
euphoria
really cool
really stylish
I would describe it as kind of like
if
certain reasons why I was done well
it's not about like suicide
or whatever in the same way but I just mean like
the high school setting
playing around with like mental health topics
and drug abuse
and this kind of thing
but attaching it to like really realistic
well-performed characters
Zendaya does a really good job in the lead
really
satisfying like building up story
yeah that's a really good one
super stylish in the way it's presented as well
really memorable camera work
Any other big one
As I've like checked out that Netflix show
The Crown
Like a big chunk of it
A few seasons of it
I saw all of the
The Doctor Who guy
Who looks like a caveman
It's Matt something
I know you're gonna love
Yeah the football one
Yeah the football one
He was really good
He was awesome
Yeah
The really good performance
is it's really well written.
I don't know how much is exaggerated for dramatic effects,
I'm sure a healthy amount.
But really interesting.
I don't really care about the raw family
and have my own personal issues with them,
but it's very critical of the whole idea
and it doesn't shy away from the stuff you want to see,
the drama that probably was happening.
behind the scenes and yeah yeah you know what I mean yeah yeah that's that it surprised me that
you started watching it and it surprised me more that you liked it and it it makes me rethink
whether I should try because I just assumed it was like kind of jerking off the role
that's what I assume too because we're just so used to that kind of thing in the UK like
just jerking off the royal family all the time and but now it's way more critical of the idea
and like
just elements of history
that I was like
is it like this is like real
and then you like
Google it and you're like
oh my shit
and reading through historical
like just craziness
you had no idea
went down
it's like a fun way of
an entertaining way
of kind of exploring the royal family
because I've genuinely
have never really given a fuck
about their standing
and despite their importance
to the
the nature of the country but those are kind of the big tv ones for me if you guys have any
i honestly couldn't and can't think of any standout tv shows i watched
i watched squid game squig game fuck yeah yeah i was that's kind of is the 2021 yeah
like it's it's hugely yeah it's huge everyone knows squid game but it is good it's a very good
series just one and done watch it have fun yeah the more time i i've had away from it
since the more i've grown to really not like the ending and the shit yeah the ending wasn't
great but i don't mind really it was it was fun entertaining the
fucking cliff hangers it did that thing where like it was the tug of war and
episode the one before they actually do it and it was like 11 at night and i was like okay yeah
this would be my last episode get to the tug of war bit and then i had to fucking continue watching
piss me off it's extremely bingeable yeah that way that's how i binge it's it's the it's the type
of writing where you're like how would this hold up on a second rewatch type thing is it is it like
what are the like you know
is it going to stand the test of time
quite you know
yeah
yeah and
it's again like
with um
attack on titan
with some of the writing feels super
like on the nose
oh yeah the way characters
talk to each other but yeah there's loads of
like awful dialogue
yeah um
but i
it gave me that like pit in my stomach
feeling that like good horror does to me yeah like that first episode with
that you know the the game the yeah um with the light or whatever the light the
the doll the big doll it spins his head of you know everyone knows it's like oh yeah
this is like gross and like fucking vile and yeah scary horrible and scary to watch um yeah
is bingeable as fuck
and the memes as well pretty good
yeah that iconic toby
toby meme the squid game
toby meme the best fucking meme ever
I know
we're forgetting meme
of the year
don't worry about these shit movies and these shit
games a meme of the year is the only one that people
actually care about and it is the toby
McGuire squid game meme
he hasn't seen it
but it is the best fucking meme
you're gonna have to
show Alex then
which I'm gonna find on here
is it like a what is it
is it a video? Yeah
I quite like
that that song
that they always play in
in Squid game
yeah it
it started pissing me off
it's really fucking weird
but yeah it does get
repressive after a while but it's
whenever I like see a meme
that has it in
I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, it's fun
It's very, but
It pissed me off, but it felt like in the
Right way
Alex, just go on YouTube and type in
Spider-Man and Squid Game and you'll get the
fucking video.
You're saying this is the best movie of the year and you're
saying earlier that you have no attachment to the Toby shit
The memes have made
the attachment
I fucking love, I love it
Yeah, that was a good video
That's my meme of the year
You have a meme of the year, Jim?
Um, the memes this year have been shit.
I like the cat with a wig on.
Oh my god.
Is that one?
This one I've seen.
Yeah, I don't even, I can't think of, like, any memes from 2021.
Big Chungus?
Because it sounds...
Oh, yeah, I like, um...
No.
What in the Matrix Hell from Space Jam, New Legacy.
I like making fun of the...
that that's not a meme boy i like um that film was memed what it depends how you what define meme right
oh was uh johnsina speaking chinese speaking mandarin yes that that's yes that's my meme that
that is a good meme okay let me i'm going on google and i'm typing meme of the y meme of the of the
of 20...
Memes of 20201
What's that meme
Like
Encyclopedia
Bowship website
Oh fuck
We got the evergreen
memes this year
I fucking forgot
The Evergreen situation
The boat
In Suarez Connell
Oh shit
That fucking is this year in March
I do
Yeah
That was pretty funny
The Bernie Sanders meme
Oh
Yeah, I remember that one
Gate Gash
Gate Keep Gas like Go boss
Another meme this year
This year?
Yeah
This has been a long ass year, dude
Yeah
Honestly, some of these memes are fucking shit
Yeah
Well that's always the case
Well, should we wrap up
Yeah
I think we're done for now
A lot of stuff to cover
some stuff got more than others but whatever
I'm tired
I'm tired too
Happy New Year motherfuckers
Make 22 go hard
Go to Latvia
Do it
The one Latvian jowling is going to be so pleased
He's already messaged me
He was like, I'm going to go to meet you man
Ha ha ha ha ha.
