JAR Media Posdact - 2023 WRAP UP - JARCast Episode 358

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

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Come on, lock in. Yeah. Clip on clip on clip, Oh yeah, clip on clip. Do you not think it's insane that in the modern society, in the modern world we live in, that people will stream and they, won't actually make any content for their streams they will just have their

community clip clips what do you mean what are you talking about um what are you talking about twitch streaming what do you mean you hate streamers you have this thing against streamers oh well yeah who doesn't the problem with streaming for the is always gonna be the fact that it's like FOMO content I don't fucking care just upload it upload the thing to your channel. Yeah, but streams, like... Make money, that's why they do it.

Yeah, but watching a stream after it's already happened is boring. Oh, fuck no. Unless it's a... You ought to be there. It has to be hype enough for people to want to be there. No, you don't... All the streams I watch, I don't need to be there for. Well, then, yeah, what's wrong, then?

Why do you hate streamers then? Huh? Yeah, you... It sounds like... You watch streamers' content. No, I've watched the streams, and they've been uploaded to their second YouTube channel. Because I don't have to be there for the stream

I don't know, the Fomo ass stream man But to be fair, in defence of Twitch There's like a one month log With it being just like a Vod So, you know, I can't complain Well, the stream I like, he streams like once every six months And just takes money James won't let me have my guy

No, come on, we don't need to You don't need to You don't need to But it's the holidays No, but, ah Well, if you do, I do If you do, I do. You want fat?

I don't want fat. Lenny over here. Lenny going full Simpson. Wait, what cigars are they? Ashlittle babies, don't you? No, but what are they? They're called Café de la Crem. They're called Signature Blue.

How'd you smoke them? Like a cigar? You just smoke them. You light them on fire And then you breathe Filling your lungs with smoke Or don't Your choice

Your Moles, Spider-Man Depends, will they kill me? What won't kill you, bro? The microplastics You know, you know the nanobot EO is like approaching us The Nando's bot

I've got Nando's in the fridge Oh, chicken in my tummy. Do you know Jamie still got that chicken in the freezer from last week? Do you actually? Yeah, it's in the freezer. You freezer it? Yeah. It was a lot of chicken.

Yeah, I couldn't eat with a chicken. There's a lot of chicken for a small fella like y'all's truly. But I ain't your chicken like a... Hey, like yours truly. Hey! Stop! Okay. Oh!

No. B-I-B. B-T-B. B. I said it's supposed to be B.T.B. What's B2B? Big titty boy. Big titty boy. BTB.

Oh, wow, this is like making me, man, I'm so moist right now. You peed yourself again. Jamie, you spilled my cough, my teeth. Because you had a rather, you did. Okay, run it back. See who truly spilled it. That's silly. The charlings will back me up here.

I love a girl. Oh, I won't. Celebrationary gar. I'll have a gar. After all that. Peer pressure in action. Hey, I've not tried to quench of a quop. Do you know what?

Do you want to snipe the ends off? No, these guys are... No, they're pre-sniped. Good afternoon, morning, evening or night. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to... The yearly wound-up of Charmedia. where we talk about what we've consumed

what we've done and the lovely little things of the year and our favourite guys and our favourite guys today I'm joined by Jamie and Alex Howdy Another year, another bunch of stuff

A bunch of stuff Too much stuff I'd say A bunch of things, a bunch of bits Yeah Too many bits Do you remember a time in your life where like

like you listened to every album you wanted to listen to you saw every movie you wanted to see and you played every game you wanted to play

like they came out of I remember having that feeling um but I guess what that's growing up realizing that oh there's so much more than I even know

is available because during that time you'd be like well I was thinking about this the other day like I'd we'd see like

maybe three movies a year you know the cinema or something yeah and that was like it was normal I only chose three movies this year maybe even two because like I saw Barbie but I didn't choose to go and see it

I got that there's counters going to the cinema though I'd say yeah yeah well I mean I went but yeah this for me has been a bit of a catch-up year what year isn't brother what was the last year they didn't feel like a catch-up year

a buffer year uh the year before COVID 2019 yeah would you so obviously for the jarlings you don't know um this is obviously where we just talk

about what we've conceived We talk about good and bad We do this once a year So don't expect this That's like the format for every episode If you've never listened or watched But yeah It's the roundup episode

Where we go through Four different categories I think that's what we agreed Movies TV Music and games It doesn't necessarily have to be things That released in the year Just things that defined our year

So there'll be I'm sure An eclectic mix of some things um my biggest chunk is movies probably mine is as well um yeah i'm sure it buffers changes depending on who's who talking um i had to do movies first i had down to do movies first and that'd probably be the longest chunk you go starting there is there somewhere else you want to begin um i want to say right now music is going to be my shortest um so i'm gonna blast through that in about 30 seconds okay so I don't know if we should start there and like might be a good little palette kinds of later though yeah I've got a fair bit for chunky

games but movies is is the big one okay I'm happy just going into movies and just getting this moving yeah yeah and get to get movieing yeah and yeah just to clarify are we going to spoilers for any of these things we'll keep it top level I think it depends on the thing yeah so just keep that in mind we'll try and I'll warn if there are any blatant spoilers I guess

yeah or anything like that but yeah it's not necessarily just to reiterate doesn't have to be like good or best things just kind of defining things or for me just a lot of things that made me have some kind of feeling or thought in the year

um so I assume I probably have the most entries for movies there will be overlap so I don't know the best approach if we should just go around Robin or just do everyone's list one at a time and just knock out

the overlaps as they come how do we normally do this? I think usually in the past we've usually done like this is the stuff Alex has watched I think doing it just don't want to balance it like really heavy just to me yeah I think just doing it one here and there would be

So there will be overlaps, at least then it's like, you know, quite natural opening up. If we, yeah, I guess we go around Robin then, how about that? I want to shout out, my first one, Ant-Man Quantumania. As a highlight. As a highlight, yeah. For a lot of people, it's been the year of the flops, the year of things, I don't know, these megacorps lining up all these different stories, and it's just not panning out.

But we're talking billions off the table like projections missed and it's like quantumania is it wasn't the biggest bomb out of all of them but there's something

definitely symbolic about that film there's the frame of that weird monster man in the suit modoc the frame of that is a symbol

of like the film industry I feel like it's like this thing it's become a joke Yeah, it's a joke And the irony of it Looking as bad as it does But that frame or sequence

Probably cost in like 20 million Yeah, like bucks Just that on its own It's funny to think about And it's embarrassing And Yeah It was definitely

It's notable for that reason But I just nothing I've always been pretty Anti-Antman as a character And all that And it's like man They didn't even try Again

Wise Paint and Reid For the third time doing this yeah why are we getting so much of this jim what comes to your mind uh well there's definitely overlap with the three of us but Oppenheimer mm-hmm before even seeing the movie like the this film was in everybody's mind yeah assisted by barbie it was the marketing it was the joint marketing and the fact that they did capitalize on it yeah it says a lot and cinema's capitalized on it and it's it's a way better movie than i was expecting like yeah it was way better than i was expecting thinking about it now like it may be chris nolan's best i think it's

definitely up there it's in that conversation for sure yeah it's at least in the top three of his and i'm i'm definitely not someone who like falls head over heels for for anything Christopher Nolan but this one in particular like it it everything just slid into place yeah and for a movie to be that long and to be such like a depressing topic but for it to like grasp you and it's thought of revoking and it like it captures the gravity of it yeah and a lot of like chris nathan's films that is the entire vibe it's like let's make this intense this is yeah it's about overwhelming

he's this needs to feel important the dialogue's big and heavy everything's big and giant and these huge sets and tenet with the big plane and all this craziness yeah and the football field in Dark Night Rises he's like a spectacle director yeah

but but it's like that movie was like a spectacle direct it was like a spectacle but it was really low level is in not like wide these wide football field shots it's really yeah it's in like

classroom and like, yeah, houses. So there's still like a scope to the story, though, as far as how many characters it's juggling, how many different locations it's juggling, the amount of time it's covering the non-linear structure of it. It does a lot of clever stuff. Yeah, I was really surprised by that because like you, as I got an older, I haven't, like, stayed with that intense kind of, like, a passion for Nolan.

Yeah. as I've grown up and well I liked Dunkirk I liked Tenet for what it's worth it wasn't like I didn't feel like an upward trajectory to me if it was like yeah Nolan he's got his thing he does his thing

and not that he didn't have his like checkmark qualities it still has that like intense soundtrack it has that like montage kind of editing and everyone speaks like in that super kind of quippy way yeah but it really works with the framing and it does

it does feel important it feels like heavy in a way that is appropriate yeah yeah i think yeah the i don't know making arpenheimer like not that he wasn't a household name but just boosting that story making it so yeah kids are interested in this stuff they're thinking about these things it is a fascinating subject matter that i feel like is explored well and does leave you thinking yeah and it doesn't only focus on like that aspect, like the bomb aspect. It's judging like the political stuff. Yeah, there's political, a lot of like character-based

and even a bit of like a very small sprinkling of conspiracy in their like... They do lean into that with that one specific scene that if you're not looking for it. Yeah. If you blink, you can miss it. Yeah, because yeah, there's that whole, the paranoia of the. the communist party who was a part of all of this stuff clashing and how yeah it bleeds out

of World War II into the Cold War and to modern day yeah and I think but I would say the movie's great but I think if that soundtrack wasn't to the power it was we'd be completely feel we'll feel completely

different by that film that soundtrack is the reason that film's that good a hundred percent sound by that it definitely helps it really helps because I think it's like an amazing soundtrack I've been meaning to listen to it but it's just I've you know

when we come on day I've heard you listen to it and it's like God I want to watch that movie again yeah it's like going on my head you just like want to say intense like it's very intense like this weird tempo change stuff it's doing yeah it makes you conjure the imagery of like

particles and bombs and chemical reactions and things like this yeah really good stuff um yeah and if you say one i guess i'll just take it off my list um as we go through um i want to shout out blackberry another surprise for me following oppenheimer with like these biopic movies where not my favorite genre for sure 100% like they they are known to bug me to be kind of uh predictable kind of trite expected these like really obvious rise and fall type stories

but Matt Johnson directed this one about yeah the Blackberry phone which I'm sure most people have forgotten about at this point like when was the last time you gave any bandwidth in your mind towards a BlackBerry mobile phone

I don't think I have since like 2000 I don't think we have because we weren't BBMers but I'd completely forgotten until watching this movie that like oh yeah my dad in the early 2000s he had a blackberry yeah with work and i remember like playing with it and thinking how cool it was and how like advanced it seemed and everything the whole keyboard on there but yeah just the whole rise and full story told in like a really uh a lot of like intense

handheld stuff uh a lot of like improv feeling to it yeah i thought that was like a nice surprise in another biopic type thing to weigh me the other side of like okay maybe maybe there's more that be done with this that weren't irritate or annoying me hiccup from the house train of dragon is like the main character in it as well oh really um yeah yeah had a few like surprising actors in uh glen howton from always sunny yeah i saw him in it's the yeah you don't see uh hiccup very much and no outside yeah especially outside of there's definitely comedic aspects to black Barry but it's not the main focus it's not necessarily a fully comedic performance he takes it very seriously I got a shout out cocaine bear for

being just the one of those for the year you know it's like there's just that one movie that year is like hyped up just because of like the name or like the gimmick and it comes out and like no one cares and no one is ever gonna think about it again yeah I think everybody forgot that it existed the day it released yeah it's like the marketing campaign is way more exciting than the actual movie itself nothing the movie can match like the imagination or the humor comes up with the concept there's the Wikipedia page is funnier than the film so just read the Wikipedia page kind of sad actually it's like

Ray Leota's final film it was Rayleota's uh really one of his final role and yeah, directed by Elizabeth Banks, not a very interesting director to me, but there we go, shout out to that one. James, do want to shout out. Well, I do, and I do, and it's one we've talked about before, but this is the film

that has completely changed my perception of film forever. I didn't take film seriously my whole life, born into a family that didn't, a dozen view films as art, you know? So naturally, I'm not going to be, put in a situation where I can appreciate film and the really final details of film for what they are. To see

between the lines and to read more into like scenes and characters and whatnot. But Lahane has fucking completely changed my whole brain chemistry when it comes to films. I've never been more shocked to such as

extreme degree. Every single scene of that movie is art. Like beautiful gorgeous, stunning art. Once you've seen that film, you're never going to forget some of those scenes. It is my favourite thing ever. I don't think I'd like anything as much as Leyen.

Really? 100%. Yeah, really connected with you. I put it on my list too. Because I saw what I watched it this year as well. You watched it like a few weeks after me because you just, you, what is it, Adam's suggesting? Yeah, he recommended it on Saddam. cast like a year ago or so yeah it was excellent it was kind of like French train

spotting with a bit more it was like French train spotting and this is England kind of combined which is films you've recommended for me to watch after watching yeah yeah that was awesome a lot of people know there's like a really famous mirror shot yeah that is always shared around gorgeous because of how they achieved it and like using like body doubles and then actually not being a mirror and all this kind of cool stuff really cool stuff really cool stuff I need to actually look at how they did that scene because that scene is just fucking superb Yeah, it's actually quite simple how they did it

But it look, yeah, the, what it achieves is like really cool And you don't even think about it Yeah, so I watched Lahain, it was really early in the year And it was the thing is, is with films, I always find it difficult to, because I'm always in a mood for something You know, I'm in a mood for like Blade Runner, so I want to watch a Blade Runner. But this was a case when I was, in the mood for something. I didn't know what it

was. And it was just like going on Amazon. It was just like, it caught me if it's black and white and I was like, looked at the sim, the description. I was like, fuck, let's watch this. And I, every film I've seen this year has been after and I've appreciated it

completely differently. I am head over hills in love with that film. I'm so glad it's made me appreciate film for what it is. It's just like it really got me. It really got me because at the start of that film it is quite a slow burner. It really takes time to set up that the atmosphere and the environment of Paris at that time.

And like trying to figure out, okay, what you're saying? Like, where's this going? Yeah. And then... It has a very strong ending and how it concludes all. Really does. But then it really got me at the scene when the main character played by Vincent Cassel. Fabulous. It's with the gun. That scene is like, fuck. This, the cinematography it is so fucking insane that I cannot, like, I paused it for like 10 minutes, just like,

can't comprehend how fucking insane it is. And then it was just like a fucking non-stop poetry until the end. Especially the scene where they meet that like drug dealer and it's like, it's a bomb about to blow. So intense. Yeah. Good tension.

I've just, I love that film. I'm so, so glad I took the whisk on it this year. um i want to shout out the mary bros movie um one of it's in the like 10 films that made a billion bucks or whatever this year it's in there um and to me marks a tipping point of like this is yeah superheroes like we have a few we care about care about Batman we care about spider-man the old one here or there depending on like which actors are involved or whatever but that's like that's going down and the video games they're rising the video game movies are here

you know and like i i put i put myriad bros but like there's there were heaps this year the video game movies yeah grand terrismo movie oh last of us show came out um yeah and it's like yeah it feels different now like early 2000s 2010s even like the conversation as always when we're going to get a good video game movie or like Scott Pilgrin comes out and say it makes three dollars and it's like when is when are people going care about video games and it's like well I guess if Mario's involved everyone cares um everyone's going to see it and it's illumination so it's exactly what you'd imagine and uh yeah personally disappointing to me you could do so much

much fun like goofy crazy stuff um do you think it's possible to make a good maria movie uh you could take the maria movie that exists now and even with some small tweaks make it a better movie probably um

but it's just yeah so safe like it feels like you know when you're in a theme park and it's showing like little clips of like the buildup hype like it literally feels like like that as a movie to me um but get used to it baby that's only just beginning yeah time for zelda um as far as like in the sea of bombs in the sea of like superhero stuff coming and

burning up and blowing up and dying there was one that rose to the top for me blue beetle wee uh guardians of galaxy three yes james guns lost one of these films um and yeah I thought it was a really good conclusion to be honest I thought it was a good way to wrap up those characters

I thought it was weird yeah the like locations and stuff like going gross with it getting creepy with it yeah getting disturbing with it it felt quite brave

it I wouldn't even class it as a Marvel movie that's what I like about the Guardians movies they feel like a James Gunn movie first well yeah

I feel like the... With a Marvel production. The first one feels the most marvelly to me. Yeah. And then it feels like he got more and more influence as they, like, went a lot. As he made them more and more money. Yeah. And then the third one just, like, is his movie.

He did what he wanted to do with the characters. And like you, like you said, took it to some pretty, like, horrible and uncomfortable place. Yeah. because you know what's going to happen from like the moment they they start getting creepy with it and you know it's like I know how this is going to play out but I'm still gripped yeah because he just has I don't know I just quite like his approach to like these pop characters and like the way he fleshes them out just enough yeah you can like be invested in each one of them individually and they're all

yeah everyone's given like a moment and like every one of these characters is fleshed out and given given something yeah yeah it feels like a good like earned ending like the emotions feel earned when it gets to them and I feel like yeah it's called like a really good ending like the way it will like you know wraps up yeah it's not too clean like they don't feel like they got a force relationships back into the same place they were like they just concluded and it's like that's cool Yeah, it's melancholy. Yeah, and bittersweet. And I think it should be. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I was kind of blind away by that movie, honestly. Mm-hmm. Yeah, lots of like, I don't know, it's becoming more and more of a litmus test for me,

where it's like, if I can, because I've got quite a visual memory, like, I should be able to remember, like, a lot of different, like, visuals and different frames from a film. If it's, like, made an impression on me. And I, yeah, I can do that for Guardians. so I can do that for some of my favourites of the year. I remember all the different colours and some of those jokes and character moments and whatnot. James, do you have another one?

I do, but it's not a film, it's rather a director. Because coming off of my found appreciation for film, I decided to check out a director that had been recommended to me a fair bit a film that was and that's Dennis Villeneuve's whole entire filmography and that mainly started

with Blade Runner 2077 2049 I'm getting punk mixed of all the different side of the media but yeah I checked out Playedrona and like it was like a love of her as soon as I saw his visual style

it's like boy and I know I've always been a fan of cyberpunk media so it was an obvious choice that i'm going to watch 2049 and love it i have a lot of sentimentality for that movie you know there's so much to say about it and we have we've talked about it before before i watched it but yeah visually amazing um wine gosings um k great i love it but then i decided to check out um incendies which is probably his best film arguably loved it as well

had me fucking like upset so glad I got recommended it it's one of his earlier works but you can really tell

it's him it's a lot more kind of low stakes it's not got that huge production that his later films have but it's I mean it's still pretty intense

though it's really intense and I rate in Sendys as his top film and then her arrival definitely one

those that movie blew me it blew my mind and I've had this because I the whole thing

is that like language yeah and the movie's basically about like language and communication yeah that's exactly what it's on but it meant

they had to create a language a visual language and there's this video on YouTube the like is the the people who worked on the movie explaining how they did it how they made that language and i've never watched it but i've meant to you for a time it's it's like too daunting a topic like what a fun engaging like hook for a character it's like you've got to convert you got to figure out what these aliens are saying yeah like that's so interesting yeah that's it's never been done

with a alien arriving on earth thing. It's like situation with a political like situations get more, more extreme as they're struggling to even work out. Yeah. And they're not, there's like, they're not humanoid in any form. Yeah. Yeah. So there's no overlap.

It's really unbelievably fascinating Yeah. Way they did. Yeah. That movie made me feel dumb because of how clever it is. Yeah. You know, it's like I couldn't, I can never think up something that genius. No, not. Yeah, I couldn't even.

script is like without fault. Yeah, but a wife was really good and I definitely rate that. It's just a great film, but it's just like the thing of Dennis Villeneuve is he's so fucking good. He's so good that it's like, man, this film's amazing, but it's not your best. He's that good. And then I watch Dune, you know, Dune. There's a way to feel about that film and that's that it's just, it's setting up number two. And that's all it's kind of doing.

So you've kind of got the way I feel about. about it is going to change when the sequel comes up yeah but great film visually amazing which is fantastic movies like that do annoy me yeah i feel like i've got to like reserve myself a little bit until i can be like okay like this was like earned but there was like some payoff to all this you know i feel the same way about my movie of the year which is spider man not Across Spider-verse We'll get back to Yeah

We'll get back to Spider-Man Yeah Just to finish off With Dennisville And have prisoners Mm Oh my God Prisoners is fucking

disgustingly Amazing Yeah Hugh Jackman especially is like Fuck me You're acting So this is This is insane

Yeah Paul Dan is good in that too And Jake Gin on Hall as well Just And that creepy guy Who's in the Dark Night Creepy guy

Yeah Yeah, the creepy... The guy who is up pretending to be. He's just... He's also in suicide squad. Yeah, yeah, he's poker. And Dune. And Blade Warner.

Yeah, he... He's in all of... He has bit parts in all of... Does he? Yeah. In Dune, he's the... He's like the... Is he the doctor?

No, he's, he's harkened side man. Yeah, he's a hearkening guy. Yeah. It's only small roles. Yeah. And in Blade Runner, he's the guy in the hospital doing the body. You gets like killed.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he is in all of them. Yeah. He just has a really memorable face. Yeah, he's quite a scary looking guy. Like intense looking.

But Prisoners is fucking insane. And it's like if you want a really fucked up movie, watch prisoners. Because the acting is so masterclass, you're going to love it no matter what. Yeah, and as like a detective story, if you're into that whatsoever, then like... Yeah. Jake Gyllenhael does a detective so fucking well, man. Yeah. but that like prisoners is definitely probably like his top three

do you seem a zodiac no but I know that's another zodiac on with him yeah yeah Zodiac's amazing but yeah we've having gone from Lahain straight to Jit Dennis Villene it's like again I'm appreciating it more because of La Hain and he is now my favourite director Villeneuve and I'm so I'm looking forward to what he does

of Dundoo and I'm so glad I can appreciate his style in particular thanks to yeah it's the best way to comb through film in my opinion is by director because I used to do it like it was by actor at first when I was like a teenager just like a few actors that are liked but then you figure out that there's like no consistency to that it's like why are they like good in this thing then they suck in this thing and you eventually figure out it's usually because of directors and writers and And yeah, that was something I did.

A couple of memorable standouts for me was I, like, I zoned in a little bit on the Cullen Brothers and I wanted to fill out some of the filmography I hadn't before. And I saw the Hudzucker proxy in Barton Fink. Those are the two big ones. They've been like watch list movies for like years and years and years just there. And I'm like, we've seen that poster and been like, Why haven't I seen this?

I love the current brothers. What am I doing? Both awesome. But I think is, you know, Jesus from Big Lebowski. He's like a writer who's just moved to L.A. And it's like, yeah, there's commentary on like these writer types and, yeah, like a period piece. And, yeah, just all that kind of dialogue you expect from them and the quirky characters that they're in, like, one scene but they're like so memorable or yeah it's like what the cohen's specialise in

and the had sucker proxy was good as well about like an idiot guy um who's like tricked into being the CEO of a company but it doesn't like work out for the board and it's like this big like mess um yeah that was fun awesome there's still a couple more i got to fill out with them but um you can't really miss when it comes to their writing style in my opinion um but yeah i suppose we should do spider-man now because that would be up there for me as far as like favorites yeah and it probably is my favorite movie from 2020 um my my my like trepidation bar was like they'd go into every movie with it like full and you can figure out just like with how in a few minutes like with how things are presented like

does this need to stay full and like by the end of the first scene i was like no this is thank god yeah we're here with this um they got it they understood the assignment here um yeah let's just take what we got right in that first one let's just fucking amp it up yeah and flesh out which i think they did um getting like abstract with the color use with the visuals and just how loose they are with it yeah the the whole dimension hopping stuff and like it's it it is a comic book it's it's the most comic book comic book comic book movie ever yeah you know yes it makes yeah like with just how everything comes together aesthetically and the writing style and like the humor and everything it just it makes you like you look over then to like

something like black widow and you're just like what is even why do you exist you know yeah and that's like twice the budget as well it's just like why can we why we've been doing this the whole time yeah what you need is like a solid team of anime is an artistic vision a few talented uh animated directors and then a couple of like comedic writers to actually understand what they're talking about um but it's weird i was saying this the other week like there's this real like trend now with like it used to just be bad stuff was memed and that's kind of how you knew something was really bad is that it was memed a lot but now it's like both you know like if there are memes for like a movie like spiderverse with thing yeah it's been

meamed and yeah it's like a mark of like success like the up in my up and i'm music and like all these memes and all these like barbie clips it's like yeah being meamed is almost like a mark of success now um that popped into my mind for across a marketing success yeah it was a shame about the the working conditions coming out after the fact yeah but i think that's an unfortunate Reality for most animation departments across this entire industry the yeah, people have been saying and I haven't got around seen it yet, this new Godzilla movie is being why am I blanking on this like rewarded being talked about positively

for how good it looks for how low its budget is which is being touted as like 15 million odd which is low for a film of that kind of scale but then like you find out that like working conditions of animators in Japan is like so so abysmal and that's how they're able to keep cost down a lot of controversy at the moment over it

a lot yeah I think yeah just the more it's talked about that's good because it shouldn't be like the film was profitable made a hell of a lot of money where's all that money going

like you should be going back in so you can pay the people who made it who made it good to come back and then make it good again it's just crazy make something else good yeah

yeah because yeah that's the joke over at Sony is like the projects they ignore like wind up being good but the stuff they tinkle with you're venom your Morbiuses and all this stuff.

Where they have their focus and where their producers are focusing on it's going to be like the worst sheet you've ever seen, like genuinely the worst sheet you've ever seen. I don't know, the hunter guy movie looks kind of fire. Craven, the hunter. Craven, that's right.

It's bitten by radioactive lion? Is it? Or is it a tiger? I can't remember. Well, if we're on the subject of animated films, I don't know if this came out this year, For some reason Letterbox said it came out last year Last Wish

Lovely Great fucking film Last Wish Pushing Boots Oh yeah that was this year Yeah Yeah lovely Was it? Yeah I saw that in February

Yeah Yeah it was I think it's because in some parts of the world They were like releasing it in like late December Or something So it like gives it a 20 Yeah it's really confusing that Like crossover period

I actually saw that in the cinema this year And yeah, just, it made me really happy. It's a really sweet film. And we're at a point now where it's like, Picks are, you're boring, man. DreamWorks? In saying that, though, that I had to write down the name because it's so fucking forgettable. Ruby Gilman Teenage Cracken.

That was the other DreamWorks movie this year. It was like, woohoo, bad news, bears, that one. Was that like classic Dreamworks? That was like classic, no one's going to ever think. think about this ever again dream works you know i mean with a name like that but it's like not even like b movie or monsters versus aliens like they're so bad into a degree where it's like you can you can meme it and make fun of it yeah but this is like you don't even you're not even give me the oxygen to make fun of you that's how like nothing you are boring yeah but pus and boots

that was golden really good really really good i'm thinking about that wolf and i want to watch it again You horned up Who the fuck isn't? I haven't seen it That film is really good And you should watch it Because it's just like a really Like you don't even have to watch the previous ones

Because it's just like It's just about You know, piss and boots I can catch up to date on that I got my own purse and boots I want to shout out The Boy in the Heron I saw that in Canada

I had an awesome time oh is that the gibbles yeah the new gibbles yeah speaking of animators that are treated horribly oh right yeah yeah um do you know who you who animated ghibly films who oh christ um yeah

stunning uh creative um complex and how it's dealing with these ideas of like grief I can't wait to see it again, to be honest We have to wait a little bit I think it's out like a boxing day Or something here in the UK Yeah

That's a really annoying time It is an annoying time, it is an annoying time, sorry And Yeah, it's one of the only times I will actually Submit to watching the dub Oh, but Patinson Yeah, seeing those clips of him as the heron

It's quite interesting because the harem had like a crazy voice in the Japanese version um yeah just totally my kind of yeah I'd like to see that I would like to see it too I like a gibble I haven't I've only seen one I've only seen one Ghibli film

which Kiki's delivery service and spirit a little way I need to watch Princess one on okay yeah that's like got one and okay the bug one is cool as well My neighbor Toto as well Bit cringy It's very

Yeah it's very like kiddie Yeah it's for babies I see why thank you sir Sire I see you've got Blue Beetle on your list You know I'm gonna This just to speed this up

I'm gonna combine Blue Beetle Shazam Fury of the Gods The Flash Blue Beetle is that all the main ones what else was it yeah I guess I'd also put

like the Marvels if I'd seen it which I haven't yet probably in this category as well where it's like you done fucked it up yeah you know like that's all the award you get

yeah you know it's like the flash look kind of fire though you might have I was sat there and I was like I was feeling crazy when I saw it

Aquaman is a recording this yesterday. I suppose Aquaman can go on there too in that same section. Just thinking like, man, there was a novelty to sitting down, what was it, 2018 or something, that first Aquaman film came out. And it's like the humor that was inherent to like sitting down to a packed cinema to watch an Aquaman film. Yeah.

With the casting being controlled by Zach Snyder. and it being like this rushed together film made but directed by james one crazy just combination did james one come back for the sequel he did direct and i think he did the story as well in the sequel um but it's like yeah and then smash got five years later it's like this shit ain't funny anymore man hmm humor is the humor's lost now yeah this shit ain't funny while you were ahead yeah it's like it's just kind of fucking sad to be honest you know it's like desperate It's like, yeah, Blue Beetle's going to change the game, guys. Blue Beetle's going to change things.

Blue Beetle, oh, everyone loves Blue Beetle and his certain dynamic he brings, huh? And it's like, you watch the movie and it's like, Blue Beetle, no villain, Blue Beetle's here. Hold on, ding, Bing, j-ch-ch-ch-ch-tah-tah-tah. Were you just describing a Transformers film? No, that's Blue Beetle. He kind of looks like a Transformers film. He does kind of look like a transformer When he gets his big sword

Um So From what I can gather you quite enjoyed it Yeah it's pretty cool Like a 8 out of 10 Probably Not the strongest DC output

But um No it's like It's like It's crazy Because this is not Small amounts of money We're talking about Each one of these movies

Is 100, 200 million a pop They're just pissing They are pissing money and Disney especially like they they are happily just pissing money into the drone don't don't let DC get away with this though

either like WB like at least at least you can say oh Disney there was a period where Marvel movies were making a billion every single time they released one there was a period where the live action remakes were making a billion but like what does DC like what confidence

did they have like what what were they thinking like even on a good year like something like Shazam Fury of the Gods like oh hey Emil you can play some chess do you know what I'm saying yeah I understand

um yeah they were trying to play catch up when like they had already lost the race you know they were trying to catch up to the person who was celebrating Yeah, and we all know that, like, playing a desperate catch-up, a scrambling desperate catch-up is always going to work out well. Definitely not going to wind up in a flash situation where you sing like 10 years of production and hundreds of millions.

How much money went into that movie? It must have wound up being like 300 million or so. and I suppose I can also in this kind of segment push in their Indiana Jones 5 similar story where it's just like everything about this is like the wrong angle it's too long it's missing the fun vibrancy of those original films

it just feels out of place the budget is so ridiculously overinflated that there's like no chance in hell it's ever gonna make its money back and there's just something like sad and defeating about it It's like, how lame is that, like, a new Indiana Jones film came out? I'm the only one that saw it. Yeah. No one cared.

No. And now it's done forever. Yeah. That was kind of ruined from Crystal Skull. Yeah. They used up with a good favor. I agree. But still poop.

The Flash, yeah. The Flash was like. like maybe the craziest one out of all of those just in terms of like oh wow they're actually not just going to tax right of this like this is this is actually coming out and you're like Michael Keating like doing the press and it's just like this crazy it's crazy mess and they're trying to hide Ezra Miller so involvement and like oh oh what a crazy and the the guy who plays zod in his just shit talking the film. Yeah, he's just shitting all over it. He's like, I didn't even want to do it, but

like, I just had to show up, like, for one day. You'd have to, yeah, you'd have to be, like, stupid, because the paycheck would be obscene. Yeah, for no work. For, like, yeah, for like a day's work. And, like, you don't even have to, like, take off your mask. And it's like, you're probably your, you're 80% CG, anyway. Um, yeah. Yeah. Very, very embarrassing indeed. But something I was expecting to be embarrassing that wound out up actually being pretty awesome. It was that new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. Because I've never cared about that franchise.

I still don't really care about it. But I saw Trent Resner, 9-inch Nails, did the score for it. I saw that on Spotify. And it was like going through some of their tracks. And I was like, this is kind of cool. Interesting. and then you see it's like produced by Seth Rogen and a bunch of like

comedians or whatever and it's like okay it's interesting it's like credited on the story and stuff let's see what happened here I don't exactly love it's not called food fight but it looks like food fight what is it the religious fucking the religion sausage party

sausage party yeah I think he wrote that and that was awful that was not good I hate that was bad news but open that but this was actually kind of cool it was like cute breezy knew what it was was actually kind of funny instead of like Johnny Knoxville like voicing the turtle it was like actual like kids like zoomers yeah and yeah they like there's a hell of a lot of like reference humor but I don't know it kind of just it felt like appropriate because

that is what zoomers are like you know they just speak in Fortnite references um true so I thought that was appropriate ice cube is like the villain he's this like he's fly guy or something yeah which is kind of cool and fun as a it's like it's confidently ugly like you know it's kind of doing the spider verse thing yeah that bugged me about it that kind of bugged me from the trailers too but in like actually watching it it was like oh this is this is what's setting it apart from a spider verse right from a person boots thing where it's like no like character the character designs are like they're like

repulsive and crazy looking like actually like so wrong like intentionally wrong in like a cool kind of stylized way um which i dug cool colors as well i'd like a really i don't know it just was gross it looked gungy a little oozy and gooey like you know like animals in a fucking sewer shit yeah yeah so I was into that um as far as like in this in this world of flops and shits and these big sci-fi tempoles and whatever there was one original one the creator that was wedged in the middle there a spark of hope in the original sci-fi space um looked really cool from the trailers kind of looked like do you know anything about gareth edwards he did like the 2014 Godzilla

He did Rogue One He did He did this little film Called Monsters Which was made for like five dollars Which was okay And yeah This is his latest

But it winds up being kind of a All-Star No Substance Like sci-fi thing Where it really reminded me of What's the District 9 guy called Blancamp Neil Blancamp

where I love district known and I don't mean that level I'm talking more like elysium or chappy type thing where it's like the crux is something like chappy where it's like I'm chappy I'm alive I'm an AI and it's this big philosophical question yeah like packaged in this small little intimate story

they kind of do a similar thing where it's like it's the kid with the AI and it's like this the special kid you're the special chosen robot kid right and all of this type shit it um and yeah it just doesn't come together it doesn't have the dialogue but man the visuals are very cool it like really feels wasted um and like hans zimmer does the soundtrack and it's like i don't remember a single like theme or anything from that's kind of typical for hansim of those in

yeah i felt like with the the Oppenheimer score being as good as it was and it not being zimmer was kind of like interesting to me yeah maybe no one has more like he's communicates exactly what he wants a little bit clearer and it's not like just hansima um as much i don't know i can't remember the last zimmer score i like loved um the remake of the lion king uh you guys have anything else you want to shout out i've got many go for it also mentioned going off of Blade Roneb being mentioned. I also did watch the original. The original director's cut,

which is an important statement I feel like I need to make. I've not seen any of the others, and I'm not going to. Gorgeous film. Iconic. Is the director's cut the best one? Yes. I think that's argued this.

The best one, because it keeps a lot of the true. Is that the final cut? Final cut. Yeah, final cut, yeah. The director's cut's a different one, isn't it? I think the directed cut is the one you don't want to watch. Fuck it. Ignore what I just said. I started watching it the other night and...

It's final you want. Final. The final cut, the base, it's on YouTube. Just watch one on YouTube. All right. Because buying movies through YouTube is really easy. There's one on Amazon Prime at the minute that I started watching. And it's got the narration.

Yeah, if you hear the narration, just turn it off. Yeah. It makes it so much worse. I mean, I've been watching it. And you get a few days. details which are cool that like things that can't naturally be brought up in the movie so he

just says them um but it's too overt it's too like yeah most of the time it's just like like a scene happens then he's like so this just happened in the scene you just watch yeah and now I'm doing this like condescending yeah he's just telling you what he's doing while

he's doing it is yeah and the whole like charm of that movie is it's empty there's a lot of times when it's like you just want to sit in the atmosphere of it yeah You can't do that, so someone just drone it. And that Vingales soundtrack, I'm so glad, having watched it after 2049, that that Vengali sound score is something else.

That's the main thing for me where, like, there's more, it's more complicated with everything except the music, which I prefer 100% in the original. It's less, like, just smashing you over the head with, like, This place sucks. Look how big everything is, big, deep noise. Brutilism. Yeah, Hans Zimmer.

Handsome. Great sound actually is quite good. It is a good soundtrack. But the most... The best songs on that soundtrack are Hansim and someone else. Like joy. Mm-hmm. It just doesn't give you the same feeling of that world.

That beautiful. The original Blade Runner feels like... Like, real. Like, it's... It's a play... These people just live there, like... It's a bit more, like, war-ish as well. Yeah, it's extremely more fitting for that.

It feels more grounded in that, like, it's not this overly apparent. And I think that that does come from the soundtrack. It does. You know, you get a total different mood from the oppressive, like, stuff you can't ignore. But if it's smooth jazz, it pops up. The, um, blush response, the song blush response, is really kind of upbeat. And I was just using that part of the movie. So it really is just gorgeous.

Like, there's a reason I'm now, like, kind of obsessed, even more so with Cyberpunk Media and it's because of Blade Runner. I'm so glad I finally actually seen the origin of where the entire style kind of moved on from, unmoved on from. It definitely makes sense. Move on.

But now, then, everything I've said throughout of, you know, Dennis Villeneuve and everything else, It's not applicable to my next conversation. John Rue Films. I've got to talk about John Rue films because they are... They are amazing. I've gone through his entire Hong Kong peak Hong Kong discography.

So I've done Better Tomorrow 1 to the Killer Hard Boiled and Bullion Head. And I'm absolutely in love with that ear of his direction. they are and I think he said so himself they're not like from an extreme film critic's views and the way that there is the science of film you know

yeah he completely disagrees with it and he does things he thinks it looks cool yeah he doesn't care about theory at all yeah yeah yeah and you can see that in his films and that's why they're good because they're just you don't go into them thinking this is a very serious film it's like it's goofy

yeah they're extremely goofy films yeah and they're amazing for that yeah he did have a film this year which apparently wasn't that good in the end silent night um i'll see it eventually but yeah i'm with you on hard-boiled we watched that we did we watched that um and i had a good time with that my biggest takeaway is probably that oneer towards the end really fun action throwing the sprinkling of the humor in with the baby and stuff like there's some good good combo right there like his films are just like it's a really loose narrative that doesn't make sense that it's just joining cool gunfights the rule of cool

that that's the only thing that matters and I love his early ones like Better Tomorrow because it's like they're not as so much about the gun fights it's where that formula like he knew they was onto something and there's a few scenes from Better Tomorrow which are like that's fucking cool he knows where he's going to take this

and then you get the killer where it's just like so romantically cool that I just, I love it and there's a reason why Max Payne his whole formula comes on John McClain Yeah And we watched her face-off as well

We did, which, and I've got strong opinions about it Yeah, you didn't like it No, it's funny as fuck It's so funny as hilarious The fact is a big Hollywood production as well It makes it even funnier It is, like I sort of as a kid Obviously but then I didn't know John Reel

I didn't know the style And I didn't, I kind of thought Oh, that's cool when you're watching it now it's like he's got the face of his enemy and he's fucking it's so fucking bad shit insane

and I love it for that but I in watching face off I can see where Hollywood ruined his core style the style that he had from Hong Kong has been like diluted but it makes up for it in how absurd

it is because it absolutely is absurd but yeah I think Nicholas Cage can, like, be really credited for kind of carrying that film. John Travolta, man, as well, though. Yeah, they're playing each other. It's just crazy. Well, no, because I forgot that it was John Travolta being Nicholas Cair. Yeah, that's how good they both are.

Yeah, they, like, absolutely nailed the premise. It's so fucking funny. It's unreal. We were scream laughing. Yeah, the fact, the fact it exists, I'm so grateful for it. And the fact that it's a John Wu film. And it's like white. I'd say that's the only way to make it work.

Yeah. That's that style of direction. Like I love face off, but I'm like romantically affectionate towards his Hong Kong films. I personally, having seen the majority of them, bullet in the head is probably his peak film. Because it manages the serious tone as well as the goofy gunfights. I think it does it. perfectly when it's basically a Hong Kong crime film during the Vietnam War. So it's like weird setting that is so, like it had me crying at the end because I was like,

fuck, this is so emotional. I love this. So I definitely would probably rate a bullet in the head, the killer, hard-boiled, better tomorrow two and than one. Like hard-boiled is just funny and obscene and you can really see where, why that kind of led to Hollywood from hard-boiled. Do you have any others, major ones that are standing out in your mind? Uh, I mean, Barbie kind of has to be brought up because of, um, because we brought up Oppenheimer as well. Yeah.

You have to bring them both up. We've already talked about it. I definitely liked Oppenheimer a lot more than Barbary. Yeah, way more. I'll revisit Oppenheimer. I'm not going to rush back to seeing Barbie anytime soon. But I did, in saying that, I did enjoy it. Yeah.

it's I found it a little bit irritating yeah definitely like not every joke was landing for me no but it wasn't annoying me though it wasn't like a bad comedy for that I just no um the jokes just felt like yeah that just wasn't for me I just I don't like what the movie means and it what you mean by that as in how politicized it is you mean no as in like what it means for the toy industry Oh, right. Well, the Lego movie's already ruined that. Well, yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm not as crazy about the Lego movie. But, um...

But can you blame... But, like, you could say the same about Star Wars, there. Well, which ones? The originals. The originals... Like, the OGs. That they were made to sell toys. Do you think he made that first movie to sell toys?

Well, like, it's known how much of, like, a ruthless businessman the guy... Yeah, it's true. I just don't associate, like, George... I just mean more how a thing comes out, everyone loves it, it starts like trends of everyone copying it, like, is it the copycats that are the bad thing? Well, no, but I mean, I'm not like blaming the Lego movie. It's just like it's become something else since the fact. Well, it's like, yeah, the conclusions corporations take away from the success of these things

is always the wrong one. They don't see, oh, it's because it was a good movie. They just see, oh, it was a successful. Lego movie based on brand. But I don't think Barbie would exist without the Lego movie. No. And Barbie tries a lot more to talk about big businesses and their wrongdoings. I don't know the Lego movie did do that a lot.

President Business and... Yeah, I suppose. It's just wrapped up in a different... Like, if... I keep saying that the... Greta Goerwigs, the director, who's known for these types of movies. they're full of commentary and usually from women's perspective um and yeah that to me is one of the more important things with the film is like do i feel like it's the director and a writer

saying something and barbie felt like another one of those like an oppenheimer feels like a nolan film yeah for me it just gets to a point where like if if you're speaking from a certain place than what you're saying is being devalued by its surroundings you know if if if Barbie is saying like like we want equality like economic equality so made by a giant business with all these like business men characters who were just like played off to be kind of goofy that yeah this is like i i remember coming to notice this and this issue uh this i guess you'd call it what contradiction a um yeah i guess conflict of interest or like just a it's it's that intersection of art and commerce where yeah it is kind of funny that in mr robot the enemies a mega corpse

but you're watching it on amazon prime yeah i remember having that thought when watching it I don't know if it's on Prime in America or whatever, but it is in the UK. And yeah, the whole crux is like, we've got to take down megacorps. Yeah, and it's being funded. On the biggest mainstreaming website, yeah. But that's just the cyberpunk future we live in, I think. Yeah, it's also slightly different where Barbie is like an established commercial product IP. So attaching stuff like that to Barbie can sort of fit.

And like, you know, you just know this is being filtered through the Mattel, like, producers. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Like, it's obviously true that there's like a boardroom angle of like, we got to get cool, trendy, autot, director to take this, like, outdated thing and, like, modernize it. Yeah. repackage it in a way to kind of resell it to like new generations and make this thing cool again because like when was the last time you like thought about Barbie why would we exactly that's what I'm saying no but we're grown men that's what I'm saying but now like everyone is thinking about Barbie it's in the mind's eye everyone saw the film yeah it's true really cared about it or not I didn't true you didn't but and what what I'm trying to say is I'm fine with the film The film is normal

Ryan Gosling rocks in it Like it It's the movie The movie that turned me on to thinking Okay this this guy rocks Really that was the one Yeah I mean like in In

The only other movie I've really Enjoyed to a massive degree with him Was Blade Runner Okay Whereas for me he was always like there was like a flow chart and Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling

were on the same one and Ryan Reynolds decided to go down whatever would make the most money and Ryan Gosling was like I want to actually pick some kind of interesting projects yeah but there was also a time where he was doing the

the guy who directed Drive winding ref in yeah and they made another movie together The pine one Yeah, yeah Place Beyond the Pines That was him

Pretty sure Not the place beyond the pines The other one Right It's all like me on Ryan Gosling The Kitty Dark Tick

Dark Kitty Mr Kitty Mr Dark Kitty Someone like that Mr fat pussy or something No it is that Dark It's dark something

What the fuck you're talking about Oh fucking Alex The Dark Night I don't see him in the dark night He was Batman right like when what was it called he was the joker baby he was good and the nice guys only god forgives is it that one yes i think so yeah and that that movie got cloned

that's right 2013 that was winding ruffin yeah so then then i got the the perception that ryan gozzling's a bit of a twat like pretentious kind of right you know how you come to these conclusions And then I saw him in the nice guys. But I kind of background watched that movie. I was like, that was fine. Yeah, it was funny in that movie. And then Blade Runner, I saw him in.

I was like, oh, he does quite a good, like, stoic, confused. Guy. Sad man. Yeah. And then he did Barbie, and it was like, he's singing and dancing and just being funny. Yeah. You know, he's got the humor gene. He puts his whole, like, fat pussy.

in it. Yeah. Barbie is a fine good movie but I don't like its existence. It's definitely like God, it might be the

Zeitgeist movie of the whole year. Yeah, I think so. And I think it's just another step towards the total social degradation. No, that's capitalism. Communism. No, capitalism. um did you guys oh i need to shout out but i was afraid that was i want to see

probably my favorite horror movie of the year scary is doing a lot is very unusual is not as a weird like a weird pace to it especially the first time but upon rewatch it's like it's unlike anything else it's got some sequences that i've never i've untrue i've had a couple films like kind of put me in a dream like like trance state you've had that happen a couple times it is kind of almost like gooning um film gooning but like there's a there's a point and bo's afraid that is like it is it like puts you into a trance it's crazy did you have a seizure and it's such a like no it's like the opposite it's like yeah like emotionally overwhelming in the best possible way and it's like

such a good that it's so fucking anxiety-inducing and uncomfortable and yeah that director is good so Ariester just knows how to make your skin crawl yeah yeah big big fan of that and that was a huge flop as well

um uh fuck the little mermaid just want to throw that out there fuck that film um hit man hit man um yeah that was

david finch's um the hitman um no is it the killer oh yeah no hitman was the um the other movie i saw in um in canada yeah i got nothing to say about hitman

um no the killer was the new fincher movie which was proven a bit more controversial a lot of people don't like it quite enjoyed it um definitely not one of his better films but his uh like clinical style is like just really entertaining to me I haven't seen Fastbender

and anything good in a while too I like to see him again very good actor also middle fingers middle fingers up to the FNAF movie kind of similar bucket is the the Mario movie

where it's just like girl here we just open the doors it's just yep here we are it is abysmal though we never talked about it yeah I forgot you've seen it

it's such a fantastic It's kind of like what I was saying about what movie was I even talking about where it's like there's nothing there's nothing to make fun of that DreamWorks movie that was it where it's like not funny bad, it's not memeable. It's just fucking nothing. Yeah, it was it was so disappointing and like I think that first game like that premise I feel like it's pretty easy to just make a spooky movie from. Why did you have to have like the the FNAF cast fucking dancing around and the like making a den out of sheets and stuff like that's a portion of the movie and yeah spoilers alert but fuck fuck fnaff yeah honestly it's really fucking bad

I feel like it betrayed what like I know Mario played up too much it was like a roller coaster remember this video games yeah member berry shit but fnaff was like this isn't even a horror movie

you're like they didn't care at all no but like Scott Hawthorne wrote it and stuff I mean maybe if it was in the original creator's hands it would have actually been treated

with some respect but I don't know for now yeah yeah um and I got a shout out to the stop making sense

say 24 Um, mentioned that a little bit more on the music bit. But, uh, it's kind of most of the main ones. I did watch The First and the Furious and Two Fast, Too Furious with James this year. Great fucking films. Two First, Two Furious is probably the best one. It's not the whole series. It's definitely the gayest one.

It's extremely gay and it's great for it. Like, as far as that unintentional humor where, like, the trance. Trying to be as macho and awesome as possible and it's just coming out a completely different way. You're going to have to give you, break your heart. You're going to have to watch it. For the simple reason is you're not going to enjoy GTA 6 without it. Oh, is that the one you got the matching Fass & Furious? Two fast, too furious.

They're both in Miami, Florida. Oh, yeah, they're basing all the car shit and Gt SIX of that. They're just shit. They're fucking crap, and it annoys me that the car community has, like, they're in, like, Stockholm syndrome with that shit. Because they're crap, they're shit, they're garbage films, they're terrible, they do nothing good for cars, they do nothing good for the car community, they're just quite shit.

But at least too fast and furious is a bit funny. Did you guys have any other majors to throw out for this one? Mission Impossible was pretty fun. Yeah, it's not my favorite mission impossible. I've I've seen solid I would say I've actually I went back and watched all the mission impossible films from two three again like one and two you just they're two age but that he did too yeah I didn't I didn't watch a John me one and it was mainly because I started with three because it was so I always start with three or whatever and it was like

there was no identity to Mission Impossible no it didn't have its thing no but then if it's followed up by Ghost Protocol and that's the tower one and it was like oh shit that one was right because three was JJ yeah

yeah JJ is the master of like reflipped repackage yeah no personality and I watched all of them and I watched Fallout again and it was just like oh fucking fuck

that's the one Fallout is the best action movie the overmade that's up though it's probably up there it is it's somewhat fire

but yeah not the new one. I'm just waiting for that part two. Yeah, again, I don't like this trend. It's irritating. But Mission Impossible did at least feel like a full film. Yeah. Like it does

wrap up. It is cliffhangery, but Yeah. The whole thing was structured clearly to be like, this is half of it. Yeah, and it's the same with Spider-Verse. Yeah. And it is a little bit irritating

because I want to go, if I want watch a TV show, I'm expecting cliffhangers. If I go to watch a movie at the cinema, it's like, that's meant to be a package. You know, this, I don't know why this is happening. It's like, sequels used to,

you didn't lead into a sequel like that. I mean, I guess, like Empire Strikes Back did. I mean, it's, maybe it's not a new thing. It is a little bit irritating for so many franchises to be doing that. Mm-hmm. you know yeah but it's not like I don't know it's you can have a whole conversation about

that yeah yeah it's like a different like the Harry Potter we're doing it is different from the Hobbit way you're doing it from the spider verse we're doing it from the new hunger games we're doing it from the fucking Fast and Furious has done it we we none of us saw the one from this year even no because it's crap it looks shit and that does a halfway uh Cliff Hanger thing as well. While we're talking about action movies, John Wick 4 came out as well. Another film I went to the cinema to see.

I've seen way more films in the cinema than I thought. It's more like six. I like to Donnie and stuff. I'm just not the biggest John Wick guy. I know everyone loves him, but I like, I just find them all too long. Yeah, so I watched three,

like I've seen one, never bothered of two, and I think that's a good thing probably. Yeah, you can skip two, really. I watched three, I watched three, I watched three, why literally like Dave four going to see four, in the cinema. Yeah,

four has some nutty scenes and Donny Yen, as you said. Yeah. That's my favorite bit. So, so good. I started re-watching it recently and I was way nicer to it on the second re-watch.

It's like, yeah, this isn't as bad as I thought, but it does go on. Hence, I have not finished the re-watch. It's far too long. It's far too long. Yeah, it's a movie I'd be cool with just being like, oh, that scene.

I just feel like watching that scene. Yeah. And then just watching that. have to be yeah like on in the background it's like oh we're at that bit let's like pay attention okay now they're back and the the the the like uh hotline miami yeah yeah that was very cool that's that that was like beyond cool that was mind blowing when we got there in the movie sat in cinema it's like shit yeah that to me is the the peak of the film because then it does the whole stare bit where he goes up the stairs like the stair bit yeah the stair bit's funny

I got, I got, I got, I was frustrated at it and it's just like, I think that's kind of the point. Yeah, I know that's the point, but that, just because it is the point doesn't mean you can't. I feel like that scene shot and even unedited, exactly the same in a shorter version of that movie where the other action scenes didn't feel as arduous. So there is this one crazy arduous one.

Yeah. To accentuate. Yeah. Compared to, like. I think it's, it's just indicative. of the whole series though and that that that scene climbing scene is like yeah we get it too we we go self-awareness and it's the point like it's just ridiculous yeah i get that it's just like i need i need like a central character's like motivational thrust to be something i can yeah because

when you really think about it john wick is like a psycho he's just an awful yeah because he's kiannu and everyone likes Keanu because we all know how great of a guy Keanu is then it's just like yeah like the character the character has nothing to lose like the whole thing is about like he's he's already lost his wife and that's why he snaps in the first one is because of the dog yeah yeah it's like everything all the dramas kind of really happened to the character no yeah he's just like a demon just yeah he's like so powerful the whole planet yeah it's a very video game me for that but it had it four has the best set pieces of the whole quadrilege the bit in the car when he's like driving around see that's the thing it's just like all they need to do

is like cut Osaka down a bit they could have cut the German bit down a little bit and then at least then the Paris bit would have been a bit more better

just cutting like it's like the whole side quest with the like guy in the yeah in the nightclub they've got to have the nightclub there there's a nightclub in all of them

and but the thing is the nightclub bits starts with the poker game and that's that whole scene is fucking insane and that all three of them are playing they all want to kill John Wick so it's like that that is I love that shit man with the dog oh yeah the guy with the dog I because that was something that blew me away in three so I'm really I'm really glad they brought a different character and to have a dog it's one dog it's less dogs but yeah that was the best part of three from memory yeah and yeah like I still think three is better because three is

just special. Yeah. And the last film I wanted to shout out was, I think, it's called the Seventh Seal. It wasn't from this year. It was just another one of those watch list films that I've just had for ages by Ingmar Bergman. It's, you know, Max von Seedau?

It was like him when he was young, he's playing like a night, and he's like in a chess game against the physical embodiment of death and it's like this period piece um really cool weird film is death a wolf no it's just like a guy dressed up in black um yeah really good script

really memorable little story um I just love these like 90 minute films as well I think that I love a 90 minute film man I think that's like hmm that's something it's getting to the point where like if I start watching a film and I see it's two hours I just like give up it's when it goes over three for me I'm a bit like you gotta earn yeah you gotta earn my investment in this yeah I've just not had much time as of late so when I watch a film I want like to be able to do that and have

other free time you know yeah I go just all my time going to one movie then go in a bed um so I've only got like I want to move to the TV um I was going to suggest we do the TV section mid-break music games. I don't have much for TV. I don't think I have anything for TV. I don't know if it was just maybe I was missing. Normally my stuff on the pulse is a bit more

I normally have like a couple things but the only like, I watch two 2023 shows that being the Last of Us and Asoka. The Last of Us I thought was okay. The whole show to me was kind of like a seven out of ten type vibe Where it was like solid one really good standout episode And that one episode is like

Completely removed from the game Like that's the one like completely original episode But like everything is rewritten and changed And it's like a little like Bill side story, yeah the Bill episode Where everything else is like Yep I'd rather just play the game I prefer the performances in the game

I prefer the framing ever in the game I refer the way the music is used in the game but I thought it was like fine um that show uh was a little bit surprised by how popular it is to be honest but yeah blew up um yeah not much more to say on that asoka uh just just souring more and more uh the more the more i'm thinking about it uh just another i mean it's just like the cbara discussion is just so yep you got no respect for your IPs you're just you were just throwing these random projects out just like yeah well oh christ we fucked up obiwan oh christ we fucked up the the sequels oh christ we fucked up the man'salore you know christ we fuck and it's like it never ends with this

shit it's like yeah let's try osoka the adapt the show version of a sequel yeah a sequel to a show You have to watch, like, the Disney Plus TV show sequel to two different animated shows that only a fraction of the fans have already seen anyway. And, like, that's, like, leading the charge. It's just, like, it's badly written, it's ugly looking. It's just... It's, like, paper thin.

And it's like, yeah, we're building. building up the new villain man and we're doing it man and they and they do the classic he's he's the smart guy he's so smart he can predict what everyone's doing and he's so smart he can even predict when he's going to lose and just be fine with it it's like what you're still lot like what he we need to just put the brakes on here man just give us and or forget about everything else just shut up I don't care about a soaker in this mess and like this the

the pearl clutching with like just these characters and treating every character as if they're like so important you know so why are you treating like the rebels characters

as if they're like so important to all of this and it's like well the more you broaden this stuff out the lame are you're making everything yeah

the fact of Soca's even there like this whole gang of misfits is even in the mix ruined so much stuff inherently to me. It's like yeah you had the whole struggle of like Luke and that whole hero's journey in the

original. He was the only the last hope. Yeah Yoda was like you're the last one dude and then every bit of like Star Wars content we get asleep. Oh there was also this Jedi in this one in this one the last one except for that guy that escaped order 66

there was that guy that I, there's not just the one guy who escaped Audi 66. It was like a fucking hundred guys that escaped orders 66. And they're all doing pretty well. Like, they're all fighting. Some of them are like, yeah, they're able to set up like new apprentices, like the guy from rebels. And it's like, what the fuck? Like this is all happening.

Like Asoka's like doing her thing in the background, being a master, being super powerful. Surely Yoda would have known that shit. Asoka has a fucking apprentice Who's also a Mandalorian Who's It's a full It's like actual deviant art Like parody stuff

Yeah The force sensitive Mandelorian Jedi Who's the apprentice Of the one survivor Who's also the apprentice of Anakin Skywalker AKA Darth Vader

Yeah It's like just fucking stop Um I don't know why they think Like abundance of stuff will make people like what they're doing because it does the opposite

you're just like you're telling me this isn't valuable you're diluting it yeah you're giving me so much of it why I don't need to like and you're making it work yeah as well you're like you're not making it like work you're making it homework

to like get through this shit and then keep up with what the hell is going on and then there's this like hilarious disconnect because um the only other thing I had noted down it wasn't a show from this year but Jim and I watched the majority of Andor yeah um god damn because I think I was saying about and or last year's wrap up like trying to communicate about that show um

and yeah re-watching that with you was just another reminder like a few months ago watching osaka like the contrast that it's like hilarious it's like babies mode versus like oh it's actually like you've actually like written something you've actually got like characters who in a a scene can communicate an idea or like switch up a dynamic or just you know the things you want to see in a story yeah you know it's like oh these are like cool unexpected characters and like filling spaces in like the world or just these like random jobs and stuff like oh that's a cool idea like an undercover art salesman isn't that like a cool front for like a character in this show yeah it was something i latched onto watching in the show was like the culture of

the home planet of Andor like every morning there's a big bell there's like a guy that goes up and has this ritual and does the but it's little shit like that yeah but it's not just like that stuff just doesn't exist in a vacuum just for like hey star was dibby in a uh uh you know a landscape shot like introducing scene or whatever yeah and there is like a little sprinkling of that um but it never goes too crazy it never goes like baby yoda or jar jar with it you know like trying to obviously sell something. That's actually one of the problems some hardcore styles people have with Andor is it doesn't have enough of that shit. Lack of dibbies. Yeah.

Or lack of the aliens everywhere. It's got enough of Outsu. It's got a little bit of that. Yeah. I like just enough, I reckon. Yeah, the perfect dosage, I'd say. Hmm. Yeah, but I thought...

I think James would even like it. Possibly. Being that you like Rogue One. Best style, so. It's, it's very cool. You definitely like it. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it feels the most, uh, warish. Oh, you know, it, it feels like the empire is actually this, because a bunch of the

characters are empire like higher up. Yeah, they're like undercover in, or, uh, straight up empire members or people yeah, yeah, trying to build up rank. Yeah, and it's this like cutthroat, it's bureaucracy and policing and it's less like poppy as well there. It's not like doing the wizards will save all this kind of shit. It's more just like there's like a ruthless oppressive government and it's like if we make any mistake there's like there's a overriding tension to the the like the rebel. side that actually feels like every single character and every mistake

has consequences and everything has every character as well and everything's linked like the way it's kind of like a small crime that sets off this like huge building like narrative that like keeps getting bigger and these like mini-archs turn into these huge like

knock on events and that's really cool to me like it's being able to track that back and a cool central character as well just completely unexpected how that came together. Yeah and even after because like Asoka was coming out and I was seeing clips and YouTube shorts I'd watched Obi-1 and I was like I'm done I can't I can't I can't watch Star Wars anymore it's a with Obi-1 especially that it's ruined done full stop and then you were like now but and all they and then eventually we sat down started to watch it within like 10 minutes

of the first episode, I was like, oh yeah, you're right. Like, this, this, this, I was expecting it to take that short amount of time, because my thing was like, get to episode six, get to the heist, then I know you'll be in by then. That inciting incident that you were saying about that, like, starts his whole trajectory, it was like, oh, like, this isn't, like, lame baby shit.

Kick gloves are off, yeah. Yeah, it feels like, immediate stakes and investment and like I already like the character because I remember the actor from the film and blah blah And the villains don't have to be like incompetent For like just things to work and for things to move

Yeah Yeah Or if they are there's like reasons for it Or there's like some setup or payoff for it And it leads to something else happening It's like yeah And every like set and It looks crazy

It's crazy how good it looks. Every time they get off a ship, like in classic Star Wars, the actual bridge goes, and then just like loads of pointless dry ice comes out, and then they're like walking off the ship and there's like

dirt everywhere and like, or loads of rain. Yeah, yeah. You get it. It's not just loads of people running around on green screens with the it's sort of, yeah, that's what really makes it stand out when you can

the production to Asoka or a Mandalorian where they use this dome thing a hell of a lot more whereas Andor they did a lot of location shooting a lot around London um you can feel it yeah yeah and that that makes such a difference just use sets as much as possible because that really it really grounds it and you you especially need that shit when it's as goofy as something like Star Wars you know like it you need something that grounds it and makes it like believable feel like tangible um There's no better way than being on location for that. Getting the grind. That's all I want to shout out for TV if we want to go to mid-break here.

Then just music and games for the wrap-up. Do you guys have anything else? Yes. We'll see after these messages. Bye. Yeah. Bye, bear, bear. Bye, bear bear.

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We've eaten an actual crazy amount of chicken just now. You probably can't tell, but we're full up, we're pumped, plumped. Are we doing the hat thing? Unintentionally, yeah No, to be fair Today my hair's a mess So any... Yeah, my hair's a mess as well

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Noot, noot. But yeah, this is the second part where we are going to head over and talk about the other forms of media we watched, like games and music. I would love to start this section of the show saying that this year I've really gone in on Drake's Discography. I've listened to an album every day because he releases so much shit. You have to do it every day to be able to get through his 15 fucking hour long stupid C fucking... I hate that about music, that it's all about metagaming, you know? That they make albums 15 million times longer than need to because then it takes up more of the top listen songs on Spotify. Do you reckon that the more something is a product, the less it is art?

Yep. Absolutely. like a Mustang Mackey How do you even There's so many variables Without there Barbie Oh no

Shut up Back to that So with music I have a lot less Than with the movies Like that Even with how long We've been going

I probably I don't know That was like Maybe half Of the stuff I'd written down So And yeah We need this to end

At some point So Moving on to music yeah for me a lot less uh 2023 stuff exactly but this is definitely the music that's kind of overall defined my 2023 um

from memory uh it was like underworld and that kind of stuff that defined my last year um but I guess I'll did you want to go round again like we did with the movies

yeah I've got I think I've got three. I've got three and none of the two of them are not albums they're just well my three are artists I do have two other albums I could say um drakes um but I think this one will be on at least one of yours I do want to shout out Michael by Killer Mike um fire that that song you sent up already forgotten the name of it um The song you sent me, the Andre 30001, the one with LP, those are my standouts, big fan of those. I want to particularly shout out, exit 9.

That's the one. Yeah. Yeah, that's my favourite I've heard from it. I think my favourite from the album is something for junkies. Buy a song. I mean the topic being like a song for the junkies right for like meth and coke heads and it starts off with this like

somber ass sound and then builds up and as like the story goes along and like he kind of is explaining where it all began with like drug abuse in America Yeah. The CIA, baby. Yeah, I'm calling back to that, like, heyday of where it was kind of, like, glamorous before.

Yeah. And the song changes into this, like, just absolute bop. And I've talked about the album multiple times on show, so I won't harp on about it. But it's, yeah, pretty fantastic. I really have enjoyed listening to that album over and over and over again. I feel like it didn't come out this year because we

nobody knew it came out and that is Freddie Gibbs Triple S Triple S Hotel Fan fucking Tastic album his best album by such a huge margin

it's a bit of a joke fantastic You think it's his best absolutely his best I don't know I only say that because there's the amount of good songs is like

proportionately better than all of his other albums and it was like a stealthy release because I didn't know it came out until it was like six months later yeah I didn't know as that until you told me yeah um but great I'm around to listen to it what's better than the one that has the album cover that looks like Burjack Horseman um that is band that bad bad bad bad dana bad dadna bad dana bad nana oh what's good I'm referencing me bad dana I joked, I listened to one song for all shit and I'd call it bad dana and piss everyone off. Which is stupid because that album is really good.

Yeah. Really good album. But I would say it's better than bad dana. I preferred Alfredo, to be honest. Yeah, that one's good as well. I prefer the one blows a bass. Freddy. Freddy.

Yeah. Great. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's worth mentioning, Freddie gives us, he's still hits hard. He's so good. And I think it was in my, like, top three albums of the year of albums I've listened to. So that says a lot. I've been on, constantly listening to that. There's a lot to say about Freddie Gibbs' everything, but really good album.

Just isn't, it doesn't have that creativity of his previous albums. Yeah, I've, I didn't have that many songs. I felt like saving as an individual song. Dark Heart of his one of my library. Darkheartedly. That is like a, the, his. Dark-hearted and too much, I think, are the only songs I've, like, saved from the album. Yeah.

But as a listen, yeah, it's pretty fun. Good album. Yeah. Spready Gibbs. Spreddy Gibbs. Yeah. Iconic. The only other album, actually, from the year, that I can say, with a few caveats, is

one Wayne G by Mike DeMarco. this is that nine and a half hour long like I don't know if they're demos or like unused bits but they just sound like Matt DeMarco songs without his voice in and even some of them do have him like scatting or like just doing random stuff

I would say this is a minion shit a counterpoint a counterpoint of my pick of that album and is the fact that movies too long bad this album nine hours No but like

Movies too long bad isn't what I'd say though Yeah also Critiqued films for being a bit too long Yeah because there are plenty of films that are way too long So where does a nine hour album stand Well you can do other things while listening to music No you can't We've gone over this

We've gone over this Yeah It's not like yeah I think that would be weird to sit down and listen to the night and a half hour and actually instrumental Mac de Mike but yeah I've said before

and I say it again I like my instrumental music um this is like perfect for my playlist um wound up

yeah yeah all going in there and beefing up a fair amount um I mentioned in last year's one that I started getting into King Gizzard and the Lizard um I did follow this like flowchart thing

people were saying about because they they're so prolific in terms of their output it's very overwhelming the amount of albums they have going the different sounds they have going

I'm not really like a heavy metal kind of guy and they have some albums that lean more metal some that are more psychedelic and weird craziness I'm more on the psychedelic kind of side mostly rinsing the album

Butterfly 3000 I'm in your mind fuzz And Quarters Quarters is cool Because it's only got four songs All of the songs are the exact same length And that's like the premise A little concept of

EP I guess Each song is like 10 minutes long They're all like 10 10 long Or something Cool idea Um Yeah I connected with that this year I would also

say as far as a song that kind of defines the whole year for me um can't buy a thrill by steely dan stumbled across that song at some point this year sort of like from the 70s or something um that's the yeah the whole album can't buy a thrill is a really good album but specifically the song reeling in the years sorry which is on that album i think it's called it a song but uh the song reeling in the years on that album can't buy a thrill by Steely Dan would probably be a year-defining song for me yeah that's that's one hell of a chin be baby bubble bobby yeah it's so good man that guitar riff when it comes in yeah so yeah it's immediately likable yeah it is a likable and it uh little arrangement and that chorus is so like ear wormy yeah um and in your

kind of boat bro at there I went through a few low raw albums this year specifically connecting mostly with the one zero I think that is the album that has received the highest

praise where it all comes to go yeah it's it's their most full album and probably their most varied as well and yeah there's not because there were other albums where

there are like parts of the album i enjoy but there are other bits i probably wouldn't revisit where i can just listen to all of zero yeah um and not feeling like sags at any particular point particular standout for me is breathe in that's probably my favorite song of this yeah um that i've heard so far uh yeah very somber but easy way out is another really good one from the album almost almost dare I say

Lincoln Park vibes Christ No like the use of drums Because it's never something They've done since Like in the Phil Collins way With his most famous song

That I'm blanking on right now The guerrilla one Yeah the cabri's gorilla I can feel it calming in the air I can't remember the name of the song What was it even called? In the air tonight

In the air tonight, yeah Where it's like this This gradual slow build Into like these drums That just come out of nowhere And it's like what even is this Low Roar supposed to be sad and somber And suddenly you're hitting me with

You know A little bit of goobie-woobie type You know But low raw is my number one artist of you like i can't yeah um i can't deny and i'm pretty sure i said the same thing last year but this year especially looking at spotify um wrapped wrapped my top five songs were all from the same album which is an album by low raw one that i don't think you've listened to no i haven't yet called ross oh

because I guess since he since Ryan the lead singer died like I did with David Bowie I made like slightly more of an effort to actually listen to everything

and for some reason I just always missed Ross and got round to it and again it's got some songs on there that are like just out of left field um H-A-F-H I think it's called which I think was my number one song of the year my most listened to a song um

is like this this happy sort of bouncy there's still his his like hard to make that voice cheery yeah his voice is just like inherently there's so much sadness coming from his lungs

um yeah that that band man they touch a secret part of a secret string I have strong opinions about them yeah I mean

I think I will only ever like them if I play Death Stranding I think there'll be no point in my life where I'll need to hear that kind of music just because I heard one song today and it was like man if I was driving this car it would be going into a treat right now

but that that song is from a different album um obviously I'm not even start on low what I pretty I generally appreciate what you're just saying they sound depressing they do they do and and you you found them through under death stranding so it's like I did that connection that vibe is there I'd actually heard them before death stranding really yeah only like only like a single but I'd never heard it like a full

album but the song we were listening to in the car was once in a long long while which is also the name of the album. But it always makes me think of Portal 2 because of the production on it is those like... I get you. I want to... I've got like two more or something.

I want to shout out... I've had new order on my list of stuff to listen to for a while. Because I'm really into... It's like a 2014 album. or something they did. The colourful one. Yeah, it's got like these block like colours on it

with tootie fruity on it. That's a crazy... That's an amazing song. But they're more known for their stuff from like the 80s. And I've tried again and again with New Order where I hop onto an album

and I just don't connect with the album. But there are loads of like songs they have made that I really like. Yeah. Which I wound up kind of mostly enjoying through like a just the best of new order

like type compilation things like they do for the Beatles Queen or whatever yeah so I've been enjoying going through some of this stuff in that form I just like that

you know the 80s electronic kind of sound they're figuring stuff out so that was definitely a part on my year and mentioned start making sense earlier in the movie section

but I figured I'd save most of it for here got back into that album the deluxe edition version there is that one song of the weird mixing you mentioned did you mention that on a cast

I can't remember I saw the movie I don't know if I did but yeah that's it again um I can't want mine is it slippery

wheel on side of wheel um yeah I can't remember it's slippery people right yeah it sounds right boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom but like changes at the end yeah there's like a breakdown let's break it down yeah so and it's it's like a big drum hit and then

revisiting the chorus and then like big drum hits between when he sings and there's the one big drum hit and then he sings and then the next one's like boom yeah it sounds like the I don't know, there's like no reverb, there's no echo to the sound, it's not carried. Yeah, it's really weird, I don't know how that came to be, because when we watch the movie

it sounded perfect the whole time. Yeah, yeah, you don't know it's it in the movie, so that might just be an album version, that's just an issue with the album. Maybe it will get an update. Yeah, who knows now, but yeah, the film, what can you even say at this point?

Perfect. It doesn't really get much more perfect, to be honest. Absolutely perfect shit. Yeah, very enjoyable. Very, very perfect. It was nice where I was like really obsessed with talking heads. I feel like 2017, 2018. And then like as you do, you just like listen to different stuff for a while.

It was nice to like, oh yeah, stop making, oh, all this. Yeah, because I'd seen the movie and stuff. And it's just like revisiting that and having like a good. excuse with the new updated stuff Yeah Was a real treat for me And finally I guess French exit by TV go

They did release an album this year Didn't like it Um Tick to Tick Tick Tocker a lot Yeah I actually saw them live this year as well Which was good Yeah we talked about that I think I did talk about that

With the Ticktokers yeah Yeah Because they're like huge on Ticktok or whatever Yeah um yeah i enjoyed that to what it was worth um very sample heavy and that was yeah that was in my rotation like january february mostly this year and that's most of my stuff for music unless you guys have anything i have a lot major you want to shout out i have one that i think i will share with james what this the cyberpunk soundtrack i want to that's that's where i want to speak but i was

going to leave it to last. Oh, this band from this game. Oh, this game's really good. It's my game of the year. But, yeah, the cyberpunk soundtrack is where to begin. Yeah. Absolutely fantastic. It's got a little bit of everything.

It's got the music for the little heartwarming scenes. Yeah, the original soundtrack being done by three different composers, two of which are richer composers. Yeah. scene that Polish name is a really difficult but they're the two Richard they're the CD project

were employed sound soundtrack so they're actually part of the team composers in house and then the other person who did a few of the really good ones was he did the soundtrack for dread the film

Paul Morgan yeah Paul Morgan which is interesting a lot of sound also makes sense Dread, he also did the soundtrack for Warhammer 40K, so the lines there but the side plank soundtrack's really good because the original stuff is really

so good but it's all the small artists they got to decompose the wadio stuff you've got Grimes in there, you've got health, you've got these Polish DJs in there, got Polish artists, you've got RTJ I've gone through a lot and I think with GTA and we've all done this

everyone's done this, you find that radio station you like, you listen to that wager station like cyberpunk you don't do that constantly change station because there's so many songs that are so perfect for that world that might not be in the genres you like but you will find some really golden there and i've this year i've i've listened to a lot of the cyberpunk composers and the artists that are in that game yeah it's quite a unique idea to find artists but not just use their songs actually have them make songs specific to like in character yeah making It's like make a song as if you're a person in Knight City

or in this futuristic world. Fast forward to like, yeah. But I would think of my biggest artist of the year was Refused, who composed, I don't even think they composed it, they're Samurai. They are Johnny Silverhans band. I've gone through a really deep, an obsessive Refused phase this year.

their most listen artists and this isn't including Samurai so it's like Refuse was my number two one Samwai is my number two and the albums the shape of punk to come was one of the really early ones and it is fucking gorgeous it's a really good album and there's a lot I can't remember any of the songs off my head but if you do like Samurai I would definitely check out Refused first album but then Then war music is the 2018 album, which is the song Samurai, for Samurai, it would take it directly from the album.

Same production. It's just more Samurai. So I definitely recommend that if you listen to Samurai and you're like, fuck, this is so cool. And it's just, it's got that energy and it's just more, more, more. And it's definitely like been the anger of my year. Because it is like Samurai is music and if used his music, you get angry about. You get angry at the society about You just get a bit angsty

So I've definitely channeled that energy this year And the infamous left Is a peak of that album on war music So I definitely would Wackamend that Have you got more Awesome Do you want me to keep

You keep going You keep going until you're done This year I went deep in 1980s Japanese city pop And I finally Went through Meiko Nakahua discography we've all heard our music

it's that popular and it's been sampled so much that you can probably you would know and be like oh I know that sample I'd have to I'm not gonna be able to remember the names of her albums but I've even gone as far to collect them original copies from Japan

unopened original like cassettes that's how much one of the main reasons is none of the main reasons is none of her music's on Spotify. None of it is. So you have to listen mainly for YouTube. But 801, 801st Street is a very good album,

and I've got a copy of that. If you are into city pop and all the future funk music, you know Mako and Akahua, just go through her discography, because it's fantastic. Fantastic. But this year, for me, has been characterized by,

just not by albums outside of a fused but mainly by DJ sets and I found DJs just performing that have fucked up my world and it's like every time go home and I'll just put on a new DJ set another one another one on YouTube and the main thing with them is that their sets aren't like on Spotify

they're never anywhere so they're on like a YouTube video and that's it because it's like going through these and one of the main ones has been DJ Aya How do you spell that? A-Y-A And I found her through her whole Berlin She's got three really good sets on there

And I do want to see her live Because her sets are just so fucking good And I've been obsessed of them And they've like Of all the music I've listened to It's probably one of the up there If it was tracked because I've spent Yeah yeah

And you're listening to like a two-hour set 10, 20 times a week It's gonna get it And there's actually one on here That you've listened to us well, which is LTJ Bukham. I suggested... What's the album cover?

Road to Rhodes. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've gone through a bunch. With L.J. Bookham's, a lot of his stuff is on YouTube because he hosted a radio show in the 90s in early 2000s. So you just find these recorded drum and bass sets, and I've gone through hundreds of hours of them. And I've been obsessed.

And I think one of the main ones is, And if you're someone who's into drum bass or you just like it, you should definitely check out his album logical progressions very early. And you'll definitely find a way to enjoy drum bass through that era that he kind of evolved. But yeah, he's definitely been on repeat constantly. And I talk about him a lot on my Twitter because it's like, I love that liquidy, atmospheric drum and bass. jungle

It's massive I guess like a shout out AFX twin as well Yeah I've listened to a lot of his stuff this year as well Very very weird guy His music is very weird music but it's cool Yeah really cool Yeah

Another one I just kind of put in the workplay list And if one that's too creepy comes on I just remove it There is quite a few freaky ones With the ones that hit are yeah very Very good Let's wrap this up them with the games.

I've not paid many. My section looking a little anemic. I definitely didn't play many new games. The only 20-23 stuff I played with Spider-Man 2. A little bit of cyberpunk, what's the deal? See? Phantom Liberty.

Starfield and whatever the Destiny 2 content for this year was. Do you even want to talk about Destiny 2? I don't need to say. anything about destiny um in the bin it goes say anything about starfield

starfield is I don't know I feel like I've been like gas lit by starfield oh no um that's not good boy something about it made me just like want to get in on starfield I was like watching a video from it and I was like feeling the

I felt no build up no hype at all for anything to do with it like I was pretty like just not paying attention that much like Zero faith, didn't play Fallout 4, none of this. I'm not like the biggest Bethesda guy. I enjoyed my time with Skyron, but that's all I've really played from them. So yeah, I just get on Starfield and...

Gooned. At instantly, gooned. Yeah. And not like it was like sweeping me away or whatever, but parts of it were. There was enough about the aesthetic and like the sound design and this like menu design and stuff. mostly in aesthetics that was getting me.

And then it was like more, once you're like 20 hours in, then like stuff really starts fitting into place as far as like the issues with the core decisions. Like you just kind of want to look in a direction and walk in Bethesda Games. That's like the best thing about them.

And you can't do that in Starfield. You just straight up can't do it. And if you try to do it, you just are bored. The environments are lame, and it's just like, when cyberpunk's out the same year, when, I bought Fallout 4 for like three quid in a steam cell and just was playing it on my steam deck for a few hours and was like, this loop is stronger than Starfield. And this ain't even great, like, 4th. It's not great. It's not great.

And then I was like, wait, why am I playing Fallout 4? I have cyberpunk and Red Day Redemption too You know like that There's no excuse for a world Is like boring and flat and like Lifeless and characterless As Starfield like

There's this I'll leave it at this with Starfield right There's this set piece Called the Red Mile They're like building up It's this whole like challenge right Where they like put the character in the situation Where it's like

Yeah we'll help you if you run the red mile mile so oh shit what's the red mile sounds kind of cool what's the what's the whole red mile all about and they're like building it out and so yeah you go down there you take the lift down and you do the red mile if you do it will help you and so oh this is cool like a little set piece nice where's this going you go down the lift come out and start walking and like these little lizard dog things like attack you and it's like oh that was crazy they were pretty strong and then two more lizard dogs come and two more lizard dogs come

it's like oh so like it's just like a million lizard dogs that are just like tanky lizard dogs that just like chase you for like you're just running like a line there's like no gameplay really you just like go in a line you complete the red mile and then like I was reading on like

some forum somewhere it's like yeah I just skip the red mile like if you just don't go in the lift you can just like use your jet pack can just fly to the end of the red mile, just fly back. Like, you don't even need to do it. So, man, I,

half baked, mile wide, inch deep. I've never, ever been more uninterested to play a game than Starfield. I look at it and it's like, nah. Yeah, you know all the stuff MassFet 1 gets wrong.

Imagine that as a whole game. Yeah. Like if it didn't have the world burden, if it didn't have the story, if it didn't have, like the good character writing is everything else so basically one of the worst games ever but in saying that it's like man i could see how you could make a starfield too and this be like pretty cool like the freedom you could have the like these ideas if it was just a bit if like using your ship

and like space combat was actually like kind of fun and you could do stuff and like the enemy AI actually works and was like fun to fight if the game was good then it would be really good basically yeah then it's like there's just too many caveats you know like you go like something cool just kind of works out and you go in the room it's like oh this is cool I don't see there some enemies in there and like you're sneaking around with the junk ass sneak that like doesn't really work they like see you through a wall there's a guy just like stuck in a room like with his gun phasing through like glitching out all over the place like audio bugs like left and right like your your companion is like Hey, do you have a moment to speak?

Like, well, this is kicking off. I think a lot of that comes down to the fact that they are addicted, because there's no other way to even think of using that terrible engine that is extremely out of day. They need to move on. I think it's design, though. I think it's like just a... They decided at a certain point to prioritize a breadth of planets over, a depth of location

and I think most people would vote for one location with immense depth ala Skyrim over thousands with like not a single monument not a city not a anything memorable you know

I think I've not played it but I feel like naked jakey just says everything that's like accurate about the game yeah I mean even even before all these videos came out you just what? Word of mouth

put me off the game more than anything and like even people saying what they liked about it. It's like I'm not looking for that. I don't want that. I feel like I feel like they are all I don't I feel like generally Bethesda will never make a great game ever again and that's because they're most

Skyim. They can't they're gonna live in Sky Room shadow. It does feel like they kind of peaked her in then. Skyim's a great game. it's like the right game the right time and the competition for that style of game was not as fierce whereas yeah you got CD project in there now

you've got like games like Red Dead and then you've got games like Boulder's Gate different genre but it's like you're gonna make a medieval game fantasy game come on yeah so you gotta make you're making it's their like first new world in like decades where it's like you've got

elder scrolls you got fall out these are pretty pretty huge IPs you know they have like these they are characterful IPs that are a lot associated with them but like what is like the the mood board for starfield outside of them like nasa punk thing you know yeah what's the character that people like are that the cowboy Adam Jensen why no but like even that all the characters god they're fucking annoying they are like you don't want to be with them like I was that I saw in the perk tree there's a perk that's like yeah get certain boosts if you're doing stuff by yourself

and I was like I should be going down that because I don't want these people with me because like yeah that kind of cowboy guy is a little bit cool but his whole thing is like I've got my daughter with me and she's got to go where I go and it's like a little girl and it's like lame I'm like

I'm like executing wages and stuff like a smuggler like flying through space I don't want a little girl here like what the fuck why do that's really irresponsible even yeah and they're all like super prissy they're all like see through pio like just criticising your ass like every decision you're yeah they're all like holier than now yeah yeah i i don't think bethester like the idea of you actually playing as a shitter

like new vegas that is if you you're almost encouraged to be a shitter yeah blast these people man blast nice more fun yeah or like just hearing about like if you're a shitter and boulder's gate three it like completely changes the whole game and there's like an entire way of like it's like an actual RPG the best ones that don't understand by that part yeah you got to have something you know because like like just jumping in red dead like the last couple weeks just to like explore the map and stuff like yeah the enemies can kill you there's like a threat to what's going on there's like a sense of exploration you can run into a tree and I yeah things are like unpredictable it feels like alive the wildlife like kind of feels like it belongs in the environment you know

instead of these like mission maker dragon drop like hey it's the spider bug dragonfly thing yeah everything's always an enemy that you just like in Bethesda you just walk backwards and yeah and I notice there's they they can't do like uh feathers or fur I don't think like it's mostly like leathery like lizards and crusty crabs crabs and bugs and things like that because I guess it's less complicated

the engine doesn't explode if there's yeah if there's like hair physics yeah so I thought that was funny interesting like the music I do like a lot of like the sound design and sound effects and that stuff but man kind of missed

it for me there um do you guys have one you want to throw out there um Star Wars oh yeah that's a big one I missed I only picked that up late this year yeah um I've not played it that much

um and I love the character I love the surrounding characters what's it called again? Star Wars Jedi Survivor Jedi Survivor the first one was Fallen Order yeah okay yeah um

I love the customization options um I like exploring because the rewards even though they're just cosmetics Yeah Which is the excuse for

It feels like an actual video game Yes like I like doing it because I like I like changing my shit up I like making my lightsaber look at a different way Or having a different color Or having a cool beard Or a lame beard or different hairstyles Ponchos and stuff

Where I've been playing on like not normal but the one up from normal yeah and that's what i played on to i don't know if i should change the difficulty because the game isn't like solid the game's kind of wibbly wobbly it's not like a from game it like depend you basically have to go like encounter by encounter almost like if there's like if you're fighting something that has some kind of weapon that you can counter or like you're striking i found that to be like fine but when it's like beasts and monsters yeah they're not designed very well no that was highlights it with

ogdo bogdo or whatever it's called the frog the big frog or spawn of ogdo bogdo yeah um which is just like a poorly awfully designed yeah that's what i would do then if i if i came across one of those where it's like, this is just bullshit, I know I'm not even going to have fun. Turn difficulty down. Yeah, put it back up. The thing is, I ended up walking away from it because I put the difficulty down and still, like, one notch,

still got wrecked by it. And I was like, oh, so it's not just the difficulty. Am I, like, under-leveled? So I put the difficulty back up and just started doing other stuff. And that's when the cracks began to show, in how the game runs. Yeah, well, that's just an ongoing issue. Yeah, because it's been since it came out.

I hadn't really had that many problems until suddenly it was just like, shitty frame rates, like, weird visual glitches every so often. And it's just frustrating because the game looks amazing. But not amazing to the point where I think my PC should be chugging. so it's just kind of frustrating but all in all positive on the game

like I said I've not played it that much did you get to the desert planet yet yeah you're there have you done like the set pieces and stuff yeah and you wrote the big thing that's all those things that look like they're from dark crystal yeah

yeah that's exactly what I thought um yeah I like the all the characters the dynamics between the different characters I guess slight spoiler it turns out the Jedi from the first game is alive Cordova

The guy who's like trail we're following And that was kind of annoying It's like oh there's another Jedi Just fucking fly that around Tying back into that problem We were talking about earlier But yeah I love

just killing Stormtroopers with a lightsaber and sometimes you actually do cut them in half and shit and it's like, yeah, sound design's good, music's good yeah, animation's good

yeah, likeable. Nice game. Just solid, yeah, just like a... Yeah, it does it does veer on a bit too baby sometimes with a couple of the little music ditties.

I like that. Yeah, Yeah, it's charming, but at the same time... The whimsy. It's like, why are you making this game so goddamn hard? You know, it's, like, really hard, but then, like, I'm fist-bumping my little robot friend when I find a new fucking sock.

Can you healie-wheeler, you feel on six? Yeah, all this shit. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that because I played that too, and I did enjoy that. Yes. The best game I played this year wasn't from this year. year which was disco illusion um yeah just next level writing love that visual style love this whole world they created for it um in the first few hours i was like really confused

as to what the setting was and just like googled it um and it's like yeah that everything about this is like just completely fictional it's like all these alternate histories and this like yeah whoa like they're really they're saying just a period piece like they created a word and fleshed it out and there's all these like really complex sociopolitical dynamics going on and you you're just like drops in the middle of different races and yeah there's like yeah these like race riots going on and you're like stuck in the middle of it and have to use dialogue to try and figure out your way through it and you can become like a race realist you can become it's like yeah it's crazy and the psychological stuff it explores is like just so clever um and something that can only really be explored and achieved in it. video game and it's kind of the thing that makes me

most intrigued about Borders Gate because I know it's like the also kind of based around the D&D dice rolling stats type

gameplay is well disco elusium I'm a Bishraising yeah yeah um yeah

like all dice rolls and everything um and that yeah just that freedom of like the dialogue and interact action um so if there's anything like that which i think it is um i might have to bite the bullet

on that at some point because that did win game of the year and everyone is everyone comes up talking about it um yeah i'm definitely going to get around to but i need to and like that bioware link and everything it's just too like yeah link to used to be there oh right okay yeah but let's get one and two um oh yeah um honestly more more of like a disappointment to me was spider-man too like it's recent it was only like the last couple months or whatever um just not leaving like an impression like that first one did uh to me um but yeah i've i've had no inkling to want to play that again or um

that's a bit of a just disappointed by that story mostly you know there are like multiple points in that first game I was like this choice or this set piece or whatever they're just less

less of those to pick from and I think just mostly because of those characters they chose to focus on and some of the writing just being a little bit all over the place um

yeah because I got a steam deck um now I'm like we had a question in the thread last week that was on about where's your primary platform where you play stuff now and it had been the last few years

like a split between a little bit on Steam mostly on like Series X or whatever because that's where my library traditionally has been but in getting a Steam deck now I'm just more like oh yeah I'll buy pray I'll buy Stranding Outta Wilds is like

three quid today let's just get that and put it on the steam deck yeah um so now i'm like i feel like i'm fully in on that like like i have like the notifications on every time there's a steam sale i've got like the steam app with all my like wish list and i'm getting like there's three things on sale right now i'm tempted by um but i just yeah i don't i don't know how you control that yeah that's that's the risk when you get into pc gaming and that's why my um backlog has become so large because once i buy it i feel obliged to play it so then it sits in my backlog like catalog which I did take a

game off this year really I'm just a few weeks ago hitman three I finally finished and what what a cracking trilogy the the world of assassinations trilogy mm-hmm and like the the developers went on a journey with the game because they I can't remember if it was after the first one or the second one after the game was out

like the full game was out they left Square Enix Yeah Square Enix allowed them to keep the IP though Yeah yeah The big weird thing about it Yeah I guess they bought the

IP off of them And thank God they did like that they went in on it isn't there some kind of like they like built a new mode or something semi recently yeah they've done like a rogue like mode it's supposed to be really good yeah yeah I've not tried it yet because I wanted to finish the main um story first and there's not much

I can say that I don't like about the game like even the story as it concluded like it's it's definitely got issues but I just find it so likable and the character of Agent 47 not like he's getting

loads of character work but like he's this stoic emotionless guy but through you playing as him like you can dress up as a pink flamingo

like yeah you can just embody whatever use that outfit to assassinate like some world leader um and the the way they mess around with the gameplay in four especially because

I played back through starting at one going all the way through to three and finishing it over the course of the whole year and yeah the ways they mix up the gameplay in three is just

unbelievable like they truly have this one of the most versatile sandbox frameworks for a game ever created. They actually did what the MCC tried to do, but I actually pulled off. Yeah.

But even more so, because they're all in like the same engine now, aren't they? Like they're all... Yeah, they're all in one game. Yeah. So like you... But there's not like a huge like graphical difference when you're playing one's three or whatever. Some people reckon that some graphical

stuff was lost from... That often happens with one or two engine switches. Yeah, because like... Everything's being slightly adjusted when they specifically designed stuff to work within the previous engine or whatever. So if you change lighting, it can expose shit. But I didn't notice anything like that. It's not like I walk around in games looking at the shrubbery or whatever.

Yeah, I just, I think it's a game where like it's like a desert island game. You know, it's so versatile as far as single-player games go. Like, you can play it and kind of have infinite fun. Because towards the end of Hitman 3, like, I kind of methodically want to be, get like the best score and stuff and want to be ultra-stealthy. But then one of the, on one of the last levels, I was like, you know, I'm just going to try, like, John Wicking this one. So just walking around with, like, a silence pistol, just like,

bop, bop, bop, headshot, headshot, and, like, fighting dudes and stuff. And it was just as fun as sneaking through. Like, it's... Mark of a good game, man. Good game to his own. Yeah. Yeah. There's a problem, no. I absolutely love it.

It's not Wadle 7. Well, yeah, they lean in hard in one of the last levels of Hitman 3. It is going to be Hitman, double 7. Yeah. They've got the license, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. They're making a double-o-sewn. I think my prediction is that it's going to be Hitman, but a bit more linear with the whole spy thing, instead of Hitman.

But they're definitely going to use that formula of Hitman. It makes so much sense to. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it doesn't work in the framework of a video game as well as Hitman. No. Because Hitman was designed to be. So I don't know quite how they're going to do it, but you see their inspirations in Hitman 3 in particular. So I think they will, they'll definitely do.

some magic with the 07 license the um the hitman character is quite an underrated like icon yeah icon but I feel like he's he's completely unadaptable to what I don't think you can adapt him from a video game because I'm saying he's perfect for a video game

he is perfect for a video game I think I think you could make a movie and I think that's why there's been like two or three attempts yeah they're terrible That David Fincher movie, the killer, is basically a hitman movie. Yeah, yeah. Well, there you go.

And, yeah, it's like, it's just got to have this particular tone that... It's stupid. Yeah, they've always managed to strike. It's like the most grandiose high stakes. Gives a war. Yeah. But all the characters take it so seriously. And the voice actor of Agent 47 is so goddamn better.

um and i didn't realize that square enix tried to kick him out for hitman absolution really the one before um the reboot and the fans got so upset that they allowed him to come back and voice hitman um which thank fuck like i can't i actually can't imagine anyone else voice it's crazy when they do that like even for like metal gear what they did yeah that's kind of Cuthier Cuthers Sullivan like what the fuck What a weird decision Yeah That was a Kajima thing I think

Um well Hitman fucking rocks 10 out of 10 straight up Well cyberpunk you know I think we talked about before And I don't think it was this year for the most part I don't played it But you know cyberpunk is just fucking 10 out 10 2.0

I'm enjoying it I played like a good chunk maybe like 20 hours I think you played it one as well I haven't played it wrong I don't think you can play it wrong I don't think you can play it wrong Like that's kind of the point Alex is like so far on the story

But it's played less than me That's the crazy thing But I mean that's I find with cyberpunk The story for quite a while In the way the characters Like you're If you're role playing as V

You're gonna want to like do the stuff The urgent things because he's dying Yeah that's kind of the whole base I'm like in the video game yeah on my latest play through I was like yeah whatever I'm gonna go chill with some I'm still unsure how much like does it do witcher stuff with like choices does it like are there big branching it does matter because you lock off endings basically there's different endings they're a different ending they're a different ending it's not like bold as gay where you're gonna have a radically different thing it's just variations and it's variations with like relations relations with like relations relationships with characters. Mm-hmm. Right. Like you can...

Yeah. Turn people off you or... But I think that game, and we've said it before, that game's world is like one of the best ever. I've said that a lot. I say those words a lot, but it is. That game is so immersive because it's like the music. And it's more immersive now because in the latest update, the subway works. Yeah.

It's like small details like that. And it's... I don't play that game because I love it that much. much. And if I play it, I have to stop playing at some point. That's why it's the best game in the world to me. There's quite a lot of content though. There's a lot of content. It seems like heaps because that I'm, yeah, I kept getting like overwhelmed by how much there was and... To be fair, that's your own phone. How's that my fault? Because you, you didn't, you didn't do any of the side quests. Yeah, you never did anything but the main quest. But like I never felt

when I was playing it that like it was the here you are like I was just playing like what I was telling me to do it it manages it quite differently where like some dude will just call you up and be like hey I got your number I hear you get shit done um do you want to do this thing and

some of those are the best quests in the game yeah I didn't even realize I was doing the main shit I thought I didn't even know what I was doing to be honest I think you could probably do it of a redoing the game again but then I just feel like I'm getting stuck in the I don't know what it is with the CD project games where they don't gel with me in the way

they seem to gel with everyone else Well, I mean, I don't think James is right Mm-hmm mm-hmm just just keep playing like I think you need to like handbreak I'm more overwhelmed by the actual like visual like I don't have like seizures or anything but I feel like I'm about to have On the verge when I'm like playing the game You're going inside a psycho bro yeah

But that's also the coolest thing about it is the like cyber psycho stuff and like the modifying your body that that was more what was getting me into it I was like yeah this is cool I'm liking this to a certain degree but it was when I got like this mod for my legs and I'm like double jump it which I'm like oh hold up this is kind of this is cool

that's like a cool system yeah there's some awesome mods in the game you can turn your arm into like a rocket launcher yeah no that's thing but this one um that's the one from that's the one from Metroners yeah well they're like all in yeah they're all there as well so when you're at the Ripper Doctor and stuff that is

That's cool as far as awesome And like all the UI It's so like flashy With like all the stuff it's doing With that stuff which does help with the Emersion as James was saying Yeah, it's an immersive game And for Ridley

It's kind of disgusting how well it won's on my PC It runs a solid 70 On medium settings And I'm how I'm objectively playing the best version of the game Now that they've finished up there it, you mean? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Even the base game would be better in my version. The cops will work properly. All the systems will actually work. Yeah. It has a wanted level now. Yeah, I wish I'd never played it. How old is that? Until then.

Until that update. Because I remember talking, I remember bringing up cyberpunk the year it came out on one of these wrap-up episodes saying, yeah, I just refunded it because it was so fucking shit. Yeah. It didn't work. Yeah. But I remember saying then, there's something about this game.

That's very, like, special, unique. I love the dialogue, the way dialogue functions. The characters are all just that good as well. But, like, the way you... I think they're, like, diagetic way it's all, like, so, like, natural in the world. Yeah, you, like, press a button, and then you're, like, leaning on a car while you're, like, talking to them and they're, like, working. I've never seen a game do it to that way ever.

nothing else has come close. I just like the Panam one. It's when your first Panam mission, she's doing the drug deal, and you have the choice to get a gun out, open the door, and you can just see your guns resting there. It's like, man, I'm fucking cool as fuck. Playing this as V. Yeah. And the game's full of that, and it's so good.

There's no, like vehicle combat and stuff. Yeah, I wasn't in it originally. James modded it in, I think. Really? I've never played the game vanilla. Well, game of you, games. defining games,

Armored Core 6. Yeah. Surpreas it. You finally finished a FromSov game. Yeah, you did. First, and that, obviously it was like, it's a MEC game.

Of course, James is going to have a bit of a, I love mex, I love big things, I love big machines. But that game, it definitely beat me. It's the whole point, man. I got to Bautius,

like everyone did. and I couldn't beat him and I tried and I tried but every time I was like no I'm gonna beat him I'm gonna beat him and that's what I did and I kept going back and then as soon as I beat him it was like I gel it I get dark souls now I understand and like I'm a cause not dark souls it's not to the same level as dark so far easier but I get I the core is there that DNA is that yeah the the the like I don't know the the the goop no it's sadism it's all it is yeah there's no it's more like endurance I would say but sadism I feel like the sadism thing is like so like overly exaggerated

yeah it's it's it's always fair though nope yeah that's like the whole from stuff thing yeah I mean it's mostly fair sometimes they are just a little bit bullshit

but like they're never it's never impossible it's never um but yeah um would call silky smooth

gameplay just like it's so smooth and the way the you know the builds when you can go

for like because I stuck with tetrapods and they're you know way more aerial

maneuverability heavier bit chunk and then this time I do my new game plus is a super lightweight build

and it's a whole new experience I'm having so much more fun because it's like I'm so fucking dodging everyone

doing and I'm bouncing around yeah and I've been like doing boss fights where I felt even more intense

because I'm way more vulnerable. I've got to be way more better of my maneuverability. It's got me. I've been meaning to finish my new game plus, so I can do New Game Plus Plus. And honestly the main

thing, it's like, you don't play this game for 20 hours and do the story. The best content is New Game Plus and New Game Plus. I've had the best fights in New Game Plus because they're like, oh, you know that meck that kind of fucked you up, have three more of them at the same time. It's like, fuck come then.

Let's fucking go. um the soundtrack as well is like i was going to mention it on music but the soundtrack is phenomenal yeah like it's the um from software team like in in board sound team there's a lot of songs in there that they make you fight harder in the game contact with you rusted pride yeah where you hear it and you're like getting emotional because you just want to have an anime ass bus fight and it is so so anime it's so but but it never goes cringy No. The character, Rusty, is like, he's just...

He's plucked from some anime, I don't know which, but he is... Some Gundam. A-loy. Yeah. Rusty. Oh. Rusted A-loy. And I love, like, I've watched a lot of videos on, like, the weapons is a lot of the names in the game, because they're all names in different, like, eras of history and different languages.

There's so many small details that you really do pick up on when you start to look into it more. Yeah, a lot of... love went into that game a lot of love and it's like the whole being able to change your mech because it's it's not Dark Souls it's not a case of you've got perfect this fight to beat the boss in your build um because like your build shit make a new one yeah and that's how you beat a boss always change always change if you die change yeah and I learned that and now I'm having a lot more fun just always experimenting and they're adding more content now so there's definitely like a lot of future for that game but it's just like the details and

the fact the world is horribly depressing. It's, you know, the whole thing is... But also strangely hopeful. Strangely hopeful, yeah, that's whole, like, our eyes, our, I... Aya? Aya. Her whole point is, like, the hopefulness

and the humanity aspect of a dehumanized mech. But it's definitely been, it's been my top game. Like, I listen to the soundtrack every day. I have a lot of love for it. It's been... F-U-M. F-U-M. F-U-M.

fun yeah fun game um we'd also like to mention it's a fresh game but it's definitely fucked my brain up and that's um 40k rogue trader so c r pg why is it fucked your brain because it's warhammer and i'm like oh the law details the little chunks of law knowledge because i know i'm a he i'm a i'm a i'm a warhammer dork i consume a lot of warhammer stuff because I've been fucking dick. You could just try and cut my glass. But I'm a big Warhammer fan, and I've got the models that I'm painting. I've watched every law video I can find.

I've got the law books, you know. I love that world, and from the little bit I've dipped in of that game, it's like, they get it. There's so much law shit here I love. And it's fucking miserable to play to people, because it's a RPG. They're just uncomfortable. It's like when I was like two, three hours into one mission. It was like, when does it fucking end for one mission?

And it is just, it's a game you goon on. And I'm greatly glad that as a Warhammer fan, I can goon on it. What is the gameplay? Top, top down on RPG. And it's like turn-based. It's X-com. Right, okay. It's the combat is X-com.

Yeah. And it's quite difficult. It's fucked me up a lot. But it's like a CRP, so all your small choices, the dialogue. It's Baldur's Gate, but just not as good as Baldur's Gate. Yeah. But having big fun of that, I definitely think I could sink a lot of time into it. But, you know, it's been out like two, three weeks.

So, new release. And on the subject of Warhammer, Dark Tide is now an actual somewhat functional game. And I've played a lot of it this year. We've played a lot of it this year. As well as Vermin Tide. Yeah. It's promising. But it needs more.

It's fun moment to moment, but once you start seeing the same shit over and over again, you start getting a little sussy. I think the main thing about Darktide is that they went for this, this almost R&G like mission of just, you do this mission, you do this one. While Verminthide has three acts that is like four created levels with a boss fight. And that's more rewarding. Because you can be doing as different characters and then they're just very well. Vermintyde, the more I don't play it, the more I miss it.

Yeah. And this game's been out decades now. Not decades, years, but I have a lot of love for Vermintyde. I want Dark Tide to be on that level. But it's definitely been, there are two games that have to find my year because I'm always thinking about them. Yeah, and it fits into your Warhammer. My game.

My year. That's mainly what I've been doing with games. I have one more game that's kind of like my game. game of the year. Not from this year, but just a revitalized love of Battlefield 1.

Maybe I... On a whim, just when... I bought it, right? On a sale? It was in a sale, because I bought it the same time. Recently. It was like £5 for all the deals here. Yeah.

And it says a lot that, you know, we're in an era where there's all these new games, like FPS is coming out, you know, Cods, our... Battlefield 2042 It's like They're all so bad

That on a room You play an old battlefield And it's just like Where the fuck did they get wrong man Where How did they make this game That's what I don't get Like the stuff that will happen

Just in a moment to moment basis Like Above you there's a giant airship Like shooting down at you And there's planes Fighting in the sky You're hiding in a building And someone like throws T&T

And it starts crumbling the building So you're running out the building You're like gun some dudes down and then you got gun a dude down with a bolt action where you got one shot and if you fuck up you're dead and then the airship starts crashing because your team's done enough damage and it like lands on the buildings and fucking blows them up and it's blown up and like it's just chaos and like it's a game where I don't it doesn't always annoy me when like I'm having a bad game because you're just having the mercy insane yeah you're in awe

of just the the shit that is going on yeah the the core the cool upgrade they made from Battlefield 4 to that is a masterpiece. It's so clean but it works with this World War I setting where it's just like there's not all these iron sight there's not all these sights and mag attachments

it's just like there's a gun it's so much simpler. It's simple and I I play it and it's like I get sad because it's like man this is just like they don't do them like they don't do them but at the same time it's like the soundtrack is so fucking gorgeous.

Yeah, the soundtrack's ridiculous. It's really emotional, like, singing after your side has just been beaten. It's just like, and I'm just thinking of actually people in trenches, like, horrific. And at that first level, that level where it's, like, trying to make a point of the death of World War I. That is like an art piece. The pointlessness of it. It does, it does so much justice to, like, explaining in a very real way what World War I was. And the horrific death as part of it.

it. And I do think they could have done that, they could have done it so much better by actually like humanising the Germans. So you didn't do it. Yeah, I don't know why they, because it had that vignette approach, didn't it? Yeah, you wasn't campaign as much as like, multiple different characters. Yeah, different vignettes. There's not a single German. No, because in this first level, it's just like, you're just four Americans that get killed. If you're like, you're fighting and your guy dies and at the same time, you struck to a person who's just seen your guy die, it does a lot more to sell the point of there was a horrific war on the side. Maybe if you became the guy that killed you just killed you

It's still a great little piece But you know could have done more But that game is very good And I have a love for it And I didn't realize at the time That it was special I really didn't Yeah

But it's a special game Yeah and it makes me understand Why Titan four two didn't have a chance You know Like you can jump in about football one And have fun Yeah Like the dude's playing Titan four two

They're on some shit man Adderall probably probably there's the player base lively like you can find games yeah there's this one server that we always go to

that it's always full you gotta wait for your slot alright okay like sure the maps are shit yeah yeah some of the maps are trash and weirdly enough we play this one server

and we've been spotted multiple times by jarlings in this server so jarlings clearly of taste and there's just like weirdly somehow I just have the most like recognisable name because it's my website it's my company and they're like oh is that James

and John I'm like oh fuck someone's getting shotgun by me in the match and just like fuck is that James it's weird that we never get spotted on games but we go back to play a really old first-person shooter from years ago and it's like we get spotted a multiple times our day it's weird yeah it's

a little bit funny yeah a bit nice but a cracking game great game by it I'd recommend getting it if you enjoyed it back in the day. I'd recommend buying it now and jumping on. You're only going to boost the player numbers. Yeah, yeah. More people playing

the better. Well, guys, I think we did it. I think we did do it. Fuck me. Big chunky one. Just over three hours. Always saying they want a long one. And here's a nice long one for your holiday break. Yeah. Thanks

to listening for another year. Another year. I'll probably I'll probably take the questions from the suggestion thread that was up for this one collect why I already have collected them but I'll hold those

combine them with the question thread we can do a whole question next week and probably yeah just do a catch-up question one yeah that sounds a plan yeah that because we're doing this a bit early it's January 1st when you're hearing this but also

we haven't had Christmas yet as a recording it, sir. If we didn't mention anything that happened that was crazy on January... Oh, I don't say that. December 29th or... No, bro, we're starting the year with Jeffrey Epstein's client list.

No, bro, he's fucking gonna go nuts. Next year, it's gonna be like... 150 people just dying every week. There's just loads of people dying. Start it's strong. Who'd be crazy to be on that list? Someone just... No, 15 people requested through the American courts

have their name removed. And the court's like, nah, fuck you. But three people did, and they've been taken off of it. It must be very powerful. I'm thinking Bezos... If Bezos got outed on the Jeffrey Epstein's list, I don't think anything that's happened to him. He's that power.

He's the next Epstein. He's the next Epstein. He's on the list. Huh? Like, fucking Chris Tucker, whatever the fuck his name. He's Chris Tucker. You know, the... Um...

Do you think... He did all those movies with Jackie Chan. We watched one. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the rush hour guy. Yeah, rush hour. Like, well, this is the thing, it's like a lot of them have been announced

with the flight logs, like, well, fines. Do you think being on that list means they're a pedder? Yes, yeah, absolutely. I don't think necessarily every single one of them is, but I'm sure that there are examples of them on it. Well, no, because, well, it's just like the Prince Andrew thing

that she was, like, 16, and there was this whole, like, age, like, debate over it, but this is clients list. These are people who have paid for his services of child exploitation. So I would imagine they are pedophiles. Hence why they're trying to get their names and mood from it, because they know the... I don't know the... I haven't read the article, so I don't know the...

But it's going to be what? Is this actually happening then? Yes. Yeah, the American government have been like, we're releasing these now. It's coming out in January. Fucking about time. Taken long enough. It's bullshit, though, if people are getting their names taken off of it.

Well, no, only three people did. 13 tried to and the government like, nah, you're not. The queen. The king. So you can't even make the royal joke there because there's Prince Andrew. Yeah, he is.

But who do you think? It's like infamous one. Who do you think? Who do you think's going to be on this list? What celebrity do you think? Kanye? The thing is like I... There's nothing a celebrity can do

that surprises me as far as like... Evil. Evil and... Evil. Degradation Yeah Yeah

It's gonna be some big movie actors for sure Brapit There's gonna be a lot of There's gonna be a lot of politicians There does be well What if Russell Brands were there Yeah loads of like Just money people

Yeah money people But there's probably gonna be like a few musicians Politicians Yeah, that's what I said Politicians Is Ryan Reynolds on there? I don't think he'll be on it Hmm

I The Rock Yeah No, the Vogue wouldn't Kevin Hart The Vogue doesn't have time to He's in the gym He's in the gym

There's a gym on Epstein's Island It's probably multiple Yeah, he's bound to be Underground Mr Beast Sheesh The important man He was fucking born on Epstein's island

It's funny He went missing The same day Epstein went missing He was last seen in power He was last seen in Paris with his wife. Sheesh.