JAR Media Posdact - A L V I I I I I I N!
Episode Date: September 14, 2026Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 10:18 Housekeeping 22:44 Talking Through the Best and Worst YouTube eras 49:42 Mid Break 50:31 Question Segment: Gorilla Grodd is Coming... 53:16 Venomized Greggs 53:59 The Desk... Chair Problem... 55:56 Chipmunks Ordering a Chinese 57:35 Global 'Chaser' Names CBT 1:03:21 Pint or Cocktail? 1:06:42 Last Video Game You Were Addicted To... 1:11:07 Hugest ever? 1:18:01 Shellfish Conundrum 1:20:37 Jim Randomly Gets Angry About Arkham Asylum being Better than City 1:26:04 Jim is rich??? 1:30:17 A Sad, Venomized Story... #BroCastS7E36
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Come here, come here, little boy.
He diddy was first.
One day, you're throwing back pink lemonade's on Diddy's Yacht and Santropay.
Ooh.
Do you want to intro this bad boy or should this Alvin and the Chipmunk?
I'll try.
Okay.
Alvin.
That's how it goes.
If you forgot.
Okay.
Good Alvin noon.
Good Alvin.
evening, good alvinite.
Alvinite.
That's an element found.
That's what the Navi are like protecting.
Alvinite is worth one million.
Yeah, I never considered that like an avatar chipmunk.
Yeah.
You know?
Or a venomized.
Um.
A venomized.
against Alvin.
No, a venomized navi that's been controlled by Alvin in the pod.
Oh shit, yeah.
There's layers.
Oh, yeah.
So he's only venomized when in the pod.
Yeah.
And he gets out and he's like, why was I acting like that?
Yeah.
Yeah, but he's addicted to the power, kind of.
He becomes like a, like a maga rapper when he's a venomized navi in the pod.
And he's like, why was I saying all that?
One, two.
Eat my fucking other nice poo.
He's like, Dax.
Yeah, fuck.
Yeah, that's clever shit, man.
Mm.
That's a new idea.
Book unlocked.
First page written.
Mm.
Closed.
Dax and the Chipmunks.
Dax and the Chipmunks.
Yeah.
Drax.
Yeah.
From, um...
You remember Drax?
From, um, chipracked.
Yeah.
Um, fuck.
Holy shit, bro.
Run it into the ground, I see.
Make everything not funny.
Yeah.
Anyway, I think you got the intro wrong.
I think it was good alvanized.
Good.
Alvanized.
Theodore riot or Simon carnage.
Hmm.
I feel like Theodore's more carnage.
Sure?
He eats.
Just, yeah, I guess
Carnage eats.
Yeah, I guess they all kind of eat.
You can just feel like,
venomize energy, like,
yeah, yeah.
You know, there's like a loud sound,
so it's like rejecting.
Oh, yeah.
That's how,
Oh,
yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It can be like a Sonic Underground type thing as well,
like Alvin with the electric guitar.
Uh-huh.
That's how he gets it.
That's how he gets venom off him.
Made of my mother would be venomized up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's some clever shit, brother.
Yeah, that's fucking genius.
Yeah.
Oh.
Well, um, I'm Alvin joined by, which shit might be.
I am Theodore.
I am Theodore.
You've like finally, like...
The thing is, I've been going back and forth,
because I don't know if James would be our, uh, Alvin.
Why?
because he's kind of the one
like
I feel like Simon actually kind of suits
Simon does shout out to that fan art by the way
Yeah beautiful beautiful shit
I put a
Theodore Giff in the in the thread as a thank you
Simon definitely works for James
And it's not like I want to claim Alvin that badly
Just to be clear
He's kind of like he's kind of the cringiest one though
So I feel like you, Alvin.
Yeah, Alvin.
No, Theodore's the cringiest.
No, he's the fan favorite.
But I'm not the fan favorite.
Who is James?
Yeah, I feel like.
But.
But Theodore doesn't map onto James.
No, not at all.
James doesn't eat.
Yeah.
Like Theodore.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
but do I have Theodore vibes?
No, you're definitely not Theodore.
I'm like a hybridized version.
Yeah, you're like a venomized hybrid of Simon and Alvin.
Maybe like if they got venomized, it would be like, like, all three of them, one venom.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Kind of Power Ranger type B.
Like a monstrosity thing.
Yeah.
Three heads kind of.
mm yeah yeah like hydra type
hydraised
hydraised venomised hydraised
do you find it scary just how long
we can just vamp on just fucking complete or shit
the thing is I do it by myself now
like when I'm at home like trying to sleep
I'll just be like what can I venomise now
like it's yeah
it's
it's penetrated like
everything I'll be watching movies
movies and I'm like yeah I could work venom into this with not that much effort
it's so close to it yeah it's so close to that venomized reality we're like uh have you seen that
that that clip of the guy who's got like the gauntlet that it's it's like panace is gauntlet
and it's got all the um green lantern rings it's got um it's got like the yugeo like
yeah it's got the yuio thing with the you know the the like the head
head that the arms the legs that guy yeah yeah um it's got ben tens watch on blue beetle that's right
yeah it's so fucking ohy yeah but it's exactly because i saw it again today and i was like this is
exactly our type shit yeah you know or like have you seen that video of that guy
doing my life is like a video game he's got the like full out fucking pit boy yeah yeah yeah
And he's holding a switch.
Yeah.
But it's...
It just really...
Also with Trump doing all the, like...
Like, he did a green lantern post.
Yeah, that's how you know that show is, like, clicking.
Yeah, yeah.
Isn't that weird?
But yeah, they...
It's like America is tapped into, like, crossovers.
Yeah, because it's...
I saw another one which was like it was a Transformers one.
Yes.
Yeah.
It was like four hours before his funeral.
The guy voices Optimus Prime.
Oh yeah, of course.
Cullen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they posted that.
And then Hasbro or whoever owns the rights came out and they were like,
this doesn't represent.
The amount of like brands and companies at this point.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It's fucking crazy.
It almost feels like it shouldn't be legal, really.
It is blatant.
How can it be illegal when they're the ones you make law?
Yeah, exactly.
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Which after hours.
it's a whole like
other show
like it's it's like a
theodore smog as board of like
yeah
it's like unlimited
Alvin and the Chipmunks
content
although we haven't done a single JAA
to do with them
no maybe that's why I said like
you know yeah
it's not literally that
but you know
if you view me as Theodore
and Alex as Alvin
yeah maybe we should watch one of the movies
or something
I could make a
We could do some breakdowns
A fan cut or like a
Yeah
Like ending explained
Chiprecked ending
Yeah
That's a good fucking idea
Yeah yeah
Cut that out
We'll do you
Yeah
Yeah
I'm actually proud of the spies
And disguised
Explained
Yeah
That's live actually on the channel
Which is from checkout
Yeah
Check that out
For a little
Like a little chipmunk
Nibble
Yeah
Or store it in your cheek
for later.
Oh,
they are clever
for doing that,
yeah.
But there's a whole
growing playlist
over there on the
Patreon,
100 plus videos.
We just recorded
an hour long
death stranding
GAD,
a generalised
awesome discussion,
as well as
there's like a half an hour
convo on our thoughts
on the GTA6
kind of buildup
and what that might be
reading Sonic EXE3,
the whole trilogy is on there.
I'm talking about,
you can see the second
volume of absolute Batman there. Third's about to come out. I think some people already have
it actually. Yeah, we talk about that in detail. A whole variety of stuff, a halo cutscenes
react. That's gone live as well. All sorts of you can check out. The Lloyd cut. Lloyd hasn't
stuck around like the chipmunks, but... No, he never was going to, let's be real. Yeah, yeah,
you're right. And last but not least, the JAR Media Group chat, a hub where Jarlings can leave
suggestions for episodes for the question section towards the end and stuff for housekeeping
and just chat about venom or whatever you do in there um you better be doing that in
that like if not you're getting banned yeah and yeah let's shift into housekeeping then
there is something that's i went to like check on the store the jar media store the
wanker zad shit whatever yeah i went on the store and then it was like oh um on like the
of September we're like shutting down
oh okay
it's like moving limited edition
now
so I'll have to do something about that
but I just got so much fucking shit to do
so yeah
get them while you can I guess
or if it goes down that's why
so right let's do some housekeeping then
starting off with this one from Ash G
this year
cannot escape the shadow of that month
Yeah, we feel it too.
Yeah, there is something about it.
Is that if there was like a tier list of like certain characters stick around, you know,
there's obviously P.
Vecna from Stranger Things.
Vecna's had surprising stopping power considering neither of us.
That was one I didn't expect because that was supposed to be a parody of P-month.
Yeah, yeah.
Became its own thing.
And neither of us have ever watched a single, what's it called?
Death Stranger.
things. Yeah, Death Stranger Things.
Yeah, I don't know anything
about that, but Vakner clearly struck
a chord.
Yeah.
There is something, something was unlocked.
It was like a Death Stranding kind of
apocalyptic event to
have corny.
You know what I'd liken it to?
Not that I've ever done heroin, but apparently
one of the issues with it outside of the obvious
kind of difficulties
is that, like, once
you've experienced, once your brain is
experience like euphoria on that level.
It's like the new reference point.
Yeah.
And you'll never reach it again.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
That first time.
So that first time,
Pawnee unlocks,
it's like,
oh my God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You keep saying his full name, dude.
Do I?
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel when are we allowed to say it here?
Well, no, I'm fine with just P.
I like P.
Yeah.
Let's stick to that.
When I remember.
It's better than redacted.
Yeah.
Just pee.
P is good, yeah.
Well, Musy says, Venomized Alvin,
carnageized Theodore, and riotized Simon.
And Connor Doolan says,
Alvanized Paisley,
Theodoreized Argi,
Simonized Billy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm surprised Pays got Alvin.
Who do you think we get at Argy?
Alvinized Argi.
Argi suits.
Argy suits being
Theodoreized,
though.
He's,
he's a bit,
he's a bit like me.
He's kind of like in between
a couple of the chit
of the books.
Yeah.
Yeah,
he's like an amalgamation monk.
Who,
who in the law is,
in our law is the Alvin screamer?
I don't know why his,
like,
his, like,
law name is,
but the,
yeah,
um,
there have been some really good memes recently in corporate,
because the Alvin scream
is just so kind of,
uh,
multi-purpose,
you know?
Yeah,
Yeah, yeah.
Hmm.
Darth Vader.
Fuck yeah, well,
6, 4, 5 sup says
getting gas lit the podcast.
Seriously, though, I never know
when they are making shit up or not,
nine out of ten.
Why do we make sure up?
Spies in disguise explained.
What was made up?
I mean, there were, like, theories in there.
Like,
breakdowns, for sure.
Yeah.
But I like...
Explanations.
Yeah.
And maybe some people interpret things differently and that's fine.
Um, gosh, yeah, a lot of these are about Alvin.
A Dish 3151 said,
Are we seriously going to ignore the elephant in the room that alvanization has significant basis in the monk law?
Simon was quite actually alvanized in chip wrecked after hitting his head on a rock and becoming his alter ego, Simone.
He gained Alvin's confidence charm.
strength and heft while in this state
but eventually had to let it go because it was too inconsistent to deploy
thoughts interesting interesting interpretation some people will disagree
right yeah my sort of align the themes might not match up with other theories so we'll
have to put a pin in that yeah we'll have to um cross reference cross reference
and bug nut replies that saying alvin and venom will have a beam clash battle over
control of Alvin's body to which result with the alvanization pushing back and beginning
to alvanize previously venomized Simon creating a fourth faction in the secret wars
yeah yeah sounds that all sounds good to me i'll give that the big green tick you give that an
alvin alvanized thumbs up yeah um well henfrag says this episode brain rotting me so much
but while listening to her i asked my dog if she wants to be blanketized
and put a blanket over her
without even thinking about how he phrased it.
Yeah.
I just had a non-sequit to thought.
What's that?
Thanos has the gauntlet.
I am inevitable.
Yeah.
Doesn't work.
Looks over.
Oh, ow.
Yeah.
Oh my God, yeah.
Into musical number, because he can take the pout.
All he dies.
and then holding his corpse
is Spider-Man going
Alvin!
Iron Man holding his corpse.
Oh yeah, yeah.
But then,
that's when you get the iconic
Spider-Man coming out of the grave,
Venomized.
Oh, shit, yeah.
Comic book cover, but it's Alvin
Venomized.
When I'm making my coffee in the morning,
I'm getting coffee-eyed.
Caffeinized Alex.
I'm just going to go
with shower eyes a minute
shower eyes
yeah
oh my god bro
it's going so deep
I don't know if we can like
Shade pizza says
what if the Slitheen got venomized
and then Slithinized
Tony Blair and Doctor Who regenerates
into a venom
He regenerates into Alvin
8 people like that one
Yeah I've never really thought about
getting Doctor Who up in there, but like, why not?
Dalek-Eised.
Yeah, U-D-Eised.
U-D-E-D-E-D-E.
Oh, my God.
That was the plot of the Slothine there, wasn't it?
Like, Slothine in Parliament.
You know what?
Like, the MPs were fucking Sladeen.
When I first saw an advert for when they were reboot in Doctor Who,
and I saw the Sladeen in an advert.
Yeah, so I'm getting that on DVD.
No, I actually got, like,
fear response like actually
adrenaline. They are quite scary. They remind me of the
babies from Brazil.
Yeah.
So I guess that's the kind of
authentic doctor to experience that we were always told about.
Do you remember the actual fucking scary one?
The Doctor Who episode with Christopher Ackleston.
The World War II one?
Yeah, the World War II gas mask child.
I was in my heart.
Yeah.
I hear my fear.
Yeah.
That was creepy, yeah.
That was actually a pretty decent episode from memory.
That was a SCP-A-L-V-N.
Mm.
I remember.
Yeah.
This I'm fucking, I'm honestly ashamed of from Ustomorse.
You made the girl in red shinless list joke last year with P.
Because he's red as well.
Yeah, of course.
Oh, no, we didn't.
It actually did.
That's unbelievable.
Oh my God.
Isn't that like actually fucked?
Started watching, not showing his list, but...
What?
Saving Private Ryan.
Oh, yeah.
I was thinking about where Alvin could be in there.
Tom Hanks on the beach, like hiding from the gunfire.
Alvin!
Yeah, because Theodore would have run off the boat instantly been like filled with holes.
Simon would have a bit more like,
to be.
Theodore's the one
who's got like one arm and he's like looking for his arm.
He picks it up and puts it in his cheek.
Yeah.
Oh my God, dude.
Yeah.
And P's witness replied to that previous one saying,
don't worry, it's just them coming to terms with the return of P.
He was banished, but he'll be back.
He's not coming back, guys.
How can he?
He's gone.
Just shut up and think for like a second.
Like sit down and fucking...
Yeah, think about the...
The law.
Yeah.
It doesn't make sense.
It'll be like bringing Iron Man back as the main villain.
Yeah.
It'll be like bringing back Captain Maracraft at the end of his story or something.
Yeah.
We did like venomize Porny, right?
He can just eat the Spider-Man out of the grape shit.
Dissom Bard says, can we call it with the edgy jokes next week?
Like, I thought the jarling last at was overreacting a bit,
but I feel like things are getting unnecessarily mean-spirited.
forgot what I didn't like about this episode as I just don't want to re-watch it, but I definitely didn't find the PrEP and Epstein shit last week funny.
What preff and Epstein shit?
We said Alvian was on prep and that Theodore was trapped on Epstein Island.
Oh, yeah.
How's that mean-spirited?
That's innocent.
We were on their side.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, we don't want him there.
Also, bad week to say this when it's what has happened in the last week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A certain versory.
Yeah, of 9-11.
Yeah.
No one cares about 9-11 anymore.
It's been usurped.
I saw a crazy video of like, um, it must have been like students in an American university and people go up with like a mic and say like, who, who was responsible for 9-11?
Yeah.
And they're like.
ever
I think it's crazy that
like in American history
9-11 has been usurbed
Like there's a new
By Charlie
Yeah
I guess like
Nobody cares about 9-11 anymore
If yeah I guess if you weren't like born for it
It's like your new reference point
Yeah
Of like
Domestic
Violence
Yeah
Well not that kind
Right yes yes
True, true.
Last one, Val's Keeping from Butterlove.
I hope all this Alvin talk results in the jar boys eventually seeing the clip of one of the chipmunks talking about how, quote, they feel like P. Diddy with fur.
So apparently there are a couple of P. Diddy references.
I'll play the audio to see if I can include this.
So they go to like the white parties.
One day you're throwing back pink lemonade on Diddy's yacht and sandropay.
Oh fuck, Alvin.
This is absurd.
I feel like peedity with fur.
There it is.
Oh my God.
That's fucking weird, man.
Yeah.
Not one but two.
Yeah.
Alvin's exposing himself.
Shush, man.
Fuck.
Fuck me.
Too much excitement for one.
Yeah.
And it's hot in here as well.
Yeah, I'm getting warm.
It's all the Alvin energy.
avonized. Yeah, I feel like
P. Diddy with fur or something.
So I had a topic to bring out.
Mm-hmm.
I made this video
on ICTV called
What was the worst era of YouTube?
And you're a YouTube
connoisseur.
Yeah. You've been enjoying it
through all the eras. Yeah. I broke it down
into five eras, I think it was.
Do you know what the go-tipers?
eras?
That was what I was going to do is ask you
because I've given my opinion.
Oh, well, if we go through your eras
and what am I going to like tier list them?
You could do that.
Rank?
Are we doing a ranking?
I think it might be time to rank.
Yeah, I love a good rank.
I love a good ranking.
Yeah.
Right, so first era, 2005 to 2009.
Yeah.
We're talking smash, Fred.
Okay.
Philip DeFranco
I'm sure there's some others I'm missing there
Crazy Frog
Yeah lots of um
YouTubers doing blackface
Oh yeah loads of them
Yeah
Maybe all of them
I'm gonna put that pretty low
For now
For now
So yeah for now
Yeah for now
Did you say there's five
Uh yes
Yeah so this one
I want to put it like number four
Really
But it might move, you know.
I'm not doing the thing where, like, you have to choose and then it stays where it is.
Okay, you can shift it with time.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I thought, there is something kind of innocent about it,
especially, like, for the first few years there,
where there was no YouTube partner program,
so it was genuinely people just doing it for the love of the game.
Yeah, that's true.
No incentive.
Yeah, so there's a good chance it will be bumped to three.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
So that's the early days.
Then we go into 2010,
to 2013.
This is like
when virality and the concept
of YouTube kind of started getting big,
right?
Tobuscus.
The Shinema.
Pudypie.
Captain Sparkles, the fine bros,
rooster teeth, epic rat battles of history,
Ray William Johnson, Rebecca Black, Friday,
Gangnam Style, and so on.
Okay, that's going number four.
The previous one's going three,
because that's worse.
What's worse about that?
Why does I hate you like that?
Yogs cast.
Oh, okay, maybe it's three.
I only like all this the Yogs was so long.
Well, you know, my PSN, my PlayStation account is Yogs Pog.
Really?
Yeah.
Ray William Johnson with his watchman comic, you know, the graphic novel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm associating.
a lot of the like story time
YouTubers as well
like the
and the rise of like
Zuella and stuff
I feel like that's maybe the next one
okay to be honest
but yeah it's kind of
nonsensey
that was kind of what was fun there right
and like the early like the growing pains
of the concept of a
but what one of
fan base that like stays it's not about just like
virality and just like one video going
poop-up. Yeah. That's like
that's true. But like
the bar was pretty low.
Like the
the shit like
Pudipai was saying and doing
it's not
exactly like high art is it?
So yeah I'm going to keep that at number four for now
because there's a certain area I'm waiting
for to put number five.
I think you're actually underestimating how bad
like some of these are. Yeah. Right.
Next one, 2014 to 2017.
This is Keem Star,
Markiplier, Jack Septukeye,
Paul Brothers,
diamond mine cart,
leafy and like Idubs and...
Yeah, this is the era I was waiting for
to put it number five.
This is the radicalisation era.
Because this is also like the beginning of like Dave Rubin
and Ben Shapiro and them lot.
The like early seeds.
The, uh, that IUDW.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
And, um, Joe Rogan, I feel like started, I feel like you got like the snowball.
The snowboard.
The mainstream around this time.
Yes.
Um, which I guess he didn't realize because he still thinks he's like underground
media.
Um, but.
Comedy assassins.
For the minute, I want to put this at number five because like, what a, I think you're wrong.
Well, thinking about personally for me, this was the.
era that
pushed me
towards being right wing.
Yeah, I'm sure it did for many of people.
Yeah, and I think that's terrible.
But this is
2014 to 2017.
I would say that was
kind of
the latter half of that,
like Trump getting in.
2016 just rings big alarm bells
in my mind. The feminist
owned compilations. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all that sort of shit. I got like Casey
Nice stat and like the prank
era.
Yeah.
But.
A lot of really inappropriate
like kids contact.
I got a shout out on my guy,
Jack Septicoe.
Yeah, you,
you were big into him.
He was busing shit down.
You know,
he was,
he,
I saw a clip of him making a Charlie Kirk joke
and I was like,
wow,
this shit is mainstream, huh?
You know.
He's making the fucking
Bloodbaw movie, though.
Yeah.
Well, he's funding it.
And that's,
for me, though,
That's like, finally a fucking YouTuber makes a bunch of money.
Markiplier.
And, yeah.
High long?
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, Jack Septickeye has always been very much in the shadow of Markiplier.
I feel like they're titans of different.
No, but, like, Jack Septickeye was obsessed with Markiplier.
Oh, okay.
Like, as he was coming up.
Yeah.
And Mr. Septic Eye.
Um, in my opinion, eclipsed market player.
Were you like a big market player guy?
No.
Yeah.
I mean, his, his FNAF videos are fucking goaded.
On the hardest difficulty, they're.
Yeah, he locked in.
He, like, I've always thought, like, these fucking let's players, like,
living the dream, you know?
You just get to wake up, film yourself playing a video game for, like, a couple hours,
and then edit it and you're done.
They make millions of dollars.
Yeah.
Hundreds of millions.
Um, you got it pretty good.
But then I see Mark apply doing 10, 10 on fucking Fnaf.
Yeah, that's like...
That is respect.
That's like, okay, you put in the work, you put in the hours,
and it's time for you to take what's ours.
He did like all of them as well.
Yeah, yeah, he's fucking goated.
I guess for me...
Is this the bite of 87?
It's the last laugh before the complete and shittification of YouTube.
It was like this was the red deb one, like it being tamed, you know,
before it's completely like...
Corporatized and it...
that some of the shit that was going on
was just like so fucked up and inappropriate
and just like insane
you know and it was like this tension
of people making like drama alert
and like drama bullshit
as well as
the commentary community
yeah and the traditional media
like being in tension with that
it's such um it's totally equivalent
to a reality TV slop
all of that it was just a bunch of people
talking about each other
endlessly.
Yeah.
Just meaningless.
But the difference was there were a lot of them,
just like regular people.
Um,
like random like people would just appear.
Yeah.
It was like some random guy from some random fucking blaze.
Yeah, yeah.
Which doesn't really happen anymore.
Um,
it's more like you have to be like,
ridiculously exceptionally talented like an elephant graveyard to like make any splash.
Otherwise it's just like,
like kind of random videos that like just hit your you pick because this was also the death of like
it's all like algorithm based isn't it the way this kind of evolved oh yeah um yeah there's nothing
natural animation died let's plays became viable the like copyright side of that became like viable
um yeah but it was also like the death the slow death of like the subscription tab you know yeah
you're actually you're actually in communication with like your audience and like
there felt like there was more of like a YouTube community kind of thing going on around the same.
Now everything is so like siloed.
There is like a completely different feeling now.
So I definitely have mixed feelings.
A lot of just like bully content.
Yeah, really nasty shit.
But I mean that's kind of still the case now.
Yeah.
I think it's just like got more and more and shittified.
Um, because the next, the next era, the reason I ended it at 2017, because like, that was the, the moment that the, the, the big companies were like, nope.
And it was the ad apocalypse.
So the next era I narrowed down to 2018 to 2023.
The full like corporatization.
Mr. Beast comes on the scene.
Dream.
Fuck.
Yeah.
YouTuber boxing.
KSI Logan Paul, creator clash.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cocoa Mellon, Will Smith in like the YouTube rewind.
That's right.
All of the late night talk show hosts like suddenly realized that they could like monetize in a new way and like ruined it.
That was like such a clear memory for me.
It was when I saw Ellen on my like homepage.
It was like, oh, fuck, they fucking figured out how it's over.
Yeah.
The rock has like a channel and it's like, ugh.
T-series and the beautiful.
thing you got um fuck that is a shit fucking era isn't that awful like it is like the the min
maxing a bullshit like that mr beast is a big one with the uh yeah i hate that motherfucker
i hate that man like the content is unwatchable to me like it's it's not like when
like there was like the beauty squad right and it was like this just it's not for me it's
fine though you know like the it's not offensive yeah it's like Zoella just like making this is how
you wrap a present nicely it's like whatever yeah but the mr. Bees thing is like i feel like if
i caught my child watching it it'd be like this this feels like it's bad for you yeah i'm sure
wouldn't let my kid watch it yeah but they're gonna want to and it's also the yeah the utter and
of like oh I've got like a chocolate bar now and a
drink you know prime you know and yeah I think this is like yeah maybe that's yeah
well outside of what is next the last one I might keep the 2016 one at five and
put this one at four bumping the other two down to two and three I think that's crazy to be
be honest.
The,
how it's,
like,
the Mr.
Beast era is not,
like,
worse than,
because it's not like
that,
like,
ultra-partisan fucking content
isn't like,
it's not like it disappeared
after that era.
No, I know,
but, like,
it,
it made it viable.
It proved,
like,
that it worked and they could,
um,
indoctrinate.
But there was still,
like,
during that era,
like the,
I just feel like,
from that point,
that algorithm got so
much more aggressive and just figured that to such a degree it almost felt like an unintended
like consequence to a certain degree like people weren't twigged on like they are now people
didn't have like the general like understanding or education about like algorithms yeah yeah now
it feels like extra like slimy because like a lot of people like understand that now and it's like
playing into it no there's definitely truth to what you're saying um because i i personally
I personally think the worst era is the current one,
2024 to 2026.
Really?
I just made the Mr. Beast picture bigger.
You got like footballers making channels
and getting like 20 million subs in like a day.
The Twitch streamers.
I like speed.
I like I show speed.
Mm-hmm.
But AI content and shorts.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's hard to argue.
It doesn't get worse than...
In any of those previous ones, what is worse than that?
The thing is, I, I feel.
like your perspective is
more so a creator
on YouTube
and mine is like an end user
because I guess for the record
out of these five I took
part in four of them
yeah
so yeah so you're more privy
to that side of it and like
but you were using the site this whole time
no I know but there's a difference between feeling
like um like
all these celebrities and stuff are kind of encroaching
on your space and corporatizing
it. Right, right. Whereas an end user, I can choose to ignore that and stick to the stuff that I like.
Yeah. Whereas I just see it as more as like there was a pie. Yeah. And now they're taking a big chunk of it.
Well, most of it, I would say. Yeah. Unless you are like a Mr. Beast and you have like crazy
money or concepts behind you. Like I mentioned in the video that I get these bizarre emails from these
weird fucking dodgy like startups that are like, we want to give you 80 grand to like, to like,
as an investment so you can like get so and it's like why you why what do you want like what
how many channels are that yes they just hand yeah right big chunk of money and it's supposed to be
this like business venture like you it was never supposed to be about that like that no yeah you're
you're right it's youtube yeah like it just doesn't like compute um yeah yeah and it's why i have this like um
it's just it's um
It's like really fucking, oh, well, I do everything.
Yeah.
Whereas that's just so unusual now.
It's like the teams do everything now.
You offload everything and it's all like been, it all just mimics like American business structure.
Yeah.
And it's like it didn't have to be that way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I often think about kind of funny and their kind of trajectory.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, why did you structure?
yourselves like that. Yeah, it's like I liked you because you were like a smaller group of voices.
No, because they were like a big thing in the 2014-2017 era. Yeah.
Showing that you can kind of have a micro-community work for you, like with a Patreon. Um,
because even during this era, a Patreon was considered like a bad thing. It was like bad form if you
had one for some reason. Um, I remember that, like that pressure of like, if you have one, then
It's like somehow bad.
When I don't think like diversifying or having different streams like that is bad.
I think it allows a lot of like more variety and the microcommunity thing to actually try.
Yeah, I mean, I guess back when there were fewer limitations on YouTube itself, it wasn't as necessary.
It could be seen I guess as like a greedy, just like money hungry thing.
Yeah, whereas now it's like if you want to talk about like AI or like the wars.
going on around the world.
You need,
if you're an independent YouTube,
you have to be funded by something else.
Yeah, you need to have like...
Yeah, because it'll all be blocked.
So I think the combination,
especially of AI and shorts,
I think that the shorts format,
the TikTok format,
which during the 2014-to-2017 era
was like the punchline.
It was making fun of Vine.
It was like the cringiest.
It didn't make money.
It didn't work.
No one liked.
liked it.
Yeah.
But then it just...
Vapid.
Then it just came...
Then it came back and now it's the default, like...
Yeah.
...way people consume information.
Apparently, like, kids don't even Google shit anymore.
They search it on the TikTok search bar.
Like, that's how they find information now.
Um, which I think is just a net loss for all of humanity, to be honest.
Yeah.
And, like, Google getting rid of their, like...
What was their, their catchphrase?
It was like, we will not be evil or something.
And they, like, got rid of their...
rid of it.
I'll find exactly, but
what's your ranking now?
I don't know anymore.
Because the AI and shorts thing
really makes me want to put that at five.
Google's famous motto is actually
don't be evil.
Gmail creator
and other engineers introduced the phrase
around 1999 to 2003 as a guiding principle for the
company's cool values.
When Google reorganized under the parent company, Alphabet in 2015, Alphabet,
adopted do the right thing as its core motto, while Google kept Don't Be Evil.
In 2018, Google moved the main prominent mention of the phrase through the final line
referencing it still remains at the very end of the Code of Conduct.
So they scaled it back just a little bit.
So yeah, what was your final ranking?
I don't I think from 2018 onwards it's kind of like a wash to be honest yeah I think from
2016 onwards like in my personal experience um it felt like there was like those early algorithm
days it felt like it immediately jumped on to let's funnel right wing shit into people's
faces, you know,
uh,
but that felt to me like,
uh,
people were like,
almost not understanding what they were doing.
I'm sure that people designing the algorithms understood that,
oh,
the shit that makes you angry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gets pushed more.
Um, well, yeah,
the algorithm itself doesn't have a political allegiance,
but what it's going to do is reinforce whatever the,
the status quo is.
No, I know,
but it,
it,
saying like, oh, let's use this algorithm to push right wing agendas.
It's that people are already semi-leaning right-wing, so then the algorithm catalyzes on that.
It's like a weakness of like a human condition type thing where it's like we have an innate negativity bias.
You remember that atrocious interaction you had with somebody 15 years ago, but like you have a pleasant one with no friction and it like passes you by.
It doesn't necessarily ring to you.
It doesn't haunt you, you know, in the same way with like when you get a bad comment or something like you have a thousand good ones, one horrible one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You get pissed off by a video.
You're watching more of it ironically.
You're commenting more on it.
You're actually pressing like a dislike more.
So then I guess the engineers were like, well, we see this human behavior.
We can get engagement up by leaving.
leaning into that.
Um, and that has got just more and more extreme.
Yeah.
Um,
over the past decade.
I also think in that, that 2016 era, there was a huge issue.
Um,
and there still is, um, because a lot of these characters still kind of exist.
But like the political discussion from people like, um,
like shoe on head, people like, uh,
like penguin zo.
Um, you equating them?
No, but they both have this sense of like, um, uh, what's the time I'm thinking of, uh, like,
what's the time when, when something's just like obvious comes in, uh,
into it, uh, I feel, oh, I'm totally fucking blanking on like a pointless.
It will come to you, but, um, but the, the, the kind of, like,
the nothing politics it's like are both sides are like a centrist yeah centrist um the the
fucking exact term i'm trying to think of um for me i'd put it as like sane washing the like
overton window to like just common sense oh right yeah like common sense politics i i like
there they've been um i think like blair white kind of is
tried to use that as well.
But like...
That's the thing
like the common sense gun laws
and stuff like that they say.
Yeah, yeah.
But what does that actually really mean?
Well, yeah.
And it's totally naive.
And it's also arrogant.
To think that like,
well, I know better because I'm just being sensible.
It's like, well, obviously you don't know shit then.
You know, and it's all these people that
that say they actively
like don't take part
in politics and stuff
and it's like well you can't
then come out and say well it's common sense
just do this
yeah the slow erosion
of things yeah and for the record
like Sean Head is way worse
than Penguin
I quite like Charlie Penguin guy
but he's got some
rocky political takes because he
he's not like in that world and that's fine
it's like stay in your game a thing
then.
Yeah,
you know,
because,
or like commentary.
That's what he does.
Like,
yeah.
And this crazy thing
happened with,
yeah,
yeah.
And like,
that's,
that's fine.
I mean,
it's,
it's like,
and it's,
it's not to say,
like,
what,
what we do here.
I'm sure some of it's slop,
you know,
but,
Alvanized slop.
It's like,
Alvanized slop.
You can't argue that,
like,
the Alvin Venomized shit
isn't slop.
It's like,
literal,
black slop yeah that attaches to you and creates some sort of symbiosis um you could call it like a
symbiote or something but my point is like that that era was excellent for like the start like
of radicalization you know it and it's Ben Shapiro did the same shit like it was the facts
don't care about your feelings it's the um it's it's it's it's it's
trying to utilize common sense against you.
Owned compilations and all of it.
Yeah, yeah.
Stephen Crowder and I've changed my mind.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I remember being like 18 or so
and being far more vulnerable
to just absorbing shit
without critical thinking,
which is also a no-no term now.
I guess that my only argument is that I don't think
that's gone away.
it's just kind of been since that point, like, more unleashed.
This is almost directly in order of, like, how I'd rate it, kind of.
Yeah, I'm starting to tell you in that way.
Yeah.
The thing is, something I like, I think YouTube is now way better for than it ever has been before is,
like journalism
done well
with decent production value
yeah because while the shorts thing came up then it was also the very long
form podcasts and
video essays yeah yeah um and i i think
in terms of education
youtube's probably better than it ever has been as long as you
use it right. Yeah, that's that's the caveat is yeah. Big caveat. If you know how to use it like a tool,
it's like amazing. Yeah. The shit that's on it, like the history you can learn, the science you can
yeah, yeah, yeah. The, um, the amount of, um, like, lectures and shit you can watch from like real
fucking universities. Jordan Peterson. There's so many. Yeah. It's some, for that stuff,
it's fantastic now, but, um, that for you, page man. That's it?
you're right.
I think that shit is like awful.
Like four U-page.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you're making a case too solid for me to disagree.
And then when you get, there's no worse feeling when on your homepage, you're like,
you want to sit down and watch like a nice video.
You see something like like, oh, that's a good idea for a video.
And it looks like long and chunky.
It's like 45 minutes.
You press on it.
And then this like robot starts speaking.
Yeah.
And it's like, oh, so like, so this video wasn't even made by a fucking human being.
Yeah.
This was like, the script was written by a robot.
The voice was like stealing some other human being's voice and repurposing.
Or an amalgamation.
It's like actually like demonic.
It's like, actually all the hell, like.
Yeah.
So.
No, that was a good convert.
I feel like some good stuff came up there.
Yeah.
So going through memory lane.
Um,
yeah, crazy.
I guess we'll see you off these messages.
Rankers on PS5.
Out now.
PlayStation.
Only money.
This is wild.
There's on there.
Downloading wankers on my Xbox.
Which one is Bart's real scream?
Ben, Sala.
Check please.
Fee.
That's my line, silly.
I like big fuck see that.
Dobby.
All right, let's round this guy down,
doing some questions from the Jarmedia subreddit.
Ah, slash Venom.
And the group chat on Patreon as well.
Start with this one from James' biological father.
The boys need to have an extensive
Gorilla Grod Lord deep dive
because, holy shit, those set pictures from the show
look hype as fuck.
Yeah, I'm pretty fucking hype.
Have you seen this?
Yeah, there's like a
He's like a musical number
Yeah
It looks fucking funny
He's like hanging out with matter eater lad
Yeah yeah
That's not me
Hell yeah
Yeah I'm
I'm
I would not be
That excited if it wasn't for the team
Who's making it
Where it's like
Okay
I think you could do something
With this
Who is the team
I haven't actually watched it
But I've heard nothing but good things
About this show American graffiti
It's like a comedy
Like the George Lucas film
Oh shit
I'm
Yeah maybe I'm getting a mixed up
Fuck
It's so let me to do a graffiti
Oh my
Oh Christ
Guerrilla grog graffiti
Yeah it's not American graffiti
Fuck wharfity
Um
It's like graffiti
Netflix show
Comedy
What fuck is it called?
Oh American Vandal
For God's sake
Oh okay
Yeah
Get my
My wires cross there
So in DC, is it more like you get senestroized?
As opposed to vans.
I don't know anything about Lantern's law, to be honest.
I thought Sinestra is like the purple-headed guy.
Yeah, who gets like the yellow suit.
But what does that have to do of like a symbiote style?
Well, like, um...
Yeah, what is...
They're always have an equivalent.
The rings are always like emotions.
Right.
So like red is rage or something.
Green is, um...
willpower.
Um,
and yellow is fear, right?
I don't know.
I'm telling you.
So, like, if you feel too much fear,
then the Sinestro core will be, like,
attracted to you.
Or something like, I'm not a fucking,
I've never read, I'm going to watch lanterns,
but I'm just, I'm definitely going to watch lanterns.
It sounds fucking great.
And every clip I've seen, I'm like, hell yeah.
This looks fucking cool.
Also, John Stewart in, uh,
in the animated justice league is like the best.
character. He's so fucking cool.
I've had a couple people just like hounding me to watch that like for so many years.
The Justice League show. Yeah. Really. I used to be obsessed with this
YouTube channel that made loads of videos about all those. Yeah. Um, yeah. Um, yeah, I mean,
sure, like, fuck it. Why not Gorilla Grodd go into graduating or whatever?
Yeah.
Oh dear.
Usurp noodles says, would you eat a venomized Greg sausage roll?
Maybe he carnaged.
I'd eat a riotized one.
Really?
Yeah.
I wouldn't eat a riotized one.
I'd go carnageized.
Bread is like tomato.
Well, red I'm thinking, like, sort of tomato.
Get your subway.
Venomized?
Sub.
using
Squid ink
Hell yeah
Alex would you do a vlog for Jaha
if you went to the George Lucas Museum
Hell yeah
I don't want to go to California at the moment though
Betfred Gambler said
Question for Alex, maybe Jimbo 2
What desk chair do you have?
I spent a lot of time sat down
I spend a lot of time sat down
desk work and pro gamer
and for the last four years or so
I've been using a cheap shitty gaming chair
it served me well but I gotta upgrade
my lower back pain is catching up to me
and I'm worried any minute my L5 disc
is going to sizzle pop and disintegrate
into a liquid disc and
vertebrae gumbo soup
I'm torn between getting a real top ranger
steel case leap
Amia Herman Miller Airon
or more of a midranger
the prices of the expensive ones will kill me
but if it's worth it in the long run
I may have to take the plunge.
Cheers my goated gamblers.
So this chair is a Herman Miller, Erron.
Nice.
If you, like, do desk shit, I feel like it's, like, essential to spend a little bit more for a desk chair.
It's not going to destroy your back.
Anything you're using daily, I feel like it's okay for spending a bit more.
Yeah.
Also remember to wipe your bum properly.
Oh, yeah.
I learned that at the hard way.
Mine's covered in poop.
Pooh.
I did get it from, like, an outlet.
I got it from Swindon, actually
I got it from the John Lewis outlet
Nice
Yep
So like it's not like it was cheap
But it was cheaper than they are new
Yeah bloody
So
I got mine from Ikea
Ikeeer
Mike Rear
Yeah
So it will hurt short term
But pay off long term
Yeah
You know
I'm
I'm going sort of anti-chair, though, these days.
Standing desk, just standing gamer.
Yeah.
Gaming on the hoopla.
Hoopla.
Sounds like a lot of hoopla.
Quirin says,
Hello, Chiplings.
Hello.
Who's good you do a roleplay of crisp monks ordering a Chinese?
Thank you.
Ready?
Br-br-br-br-br-br-br-br-d-r-pru-d-p-d-p---------------------re.
Oh, I like that.
Can you have to...
Hmm.
Go-gall about two chicken balls.
Um...
Oh, good.
Give me some seaweed.
Yeah, crispy seaweed.
This one.
That's one.
It just gives you too much.
Um.
Um.
Um.
There's sparrows
Oh
Pro toast
Prong toast
Oh
chicken
Beef beef spoon
Yeah,
That only did your festival chicken
Chewere
Chalman
They only do a fastball chicken
And cheese
Prombos
Oh,
Can we go
Just do that for an hour
Yeah
We could have gone for a while
Yeah
I know a Chinese
menu like
Oh
gosh
Yeah
You've seen how much weight he's lost?
Has he?
He's on his own his own pork?
No, I don't think, I think he's just being real, you know?
He's just not ordering fucking...
He's just ordering, like, three things instead of 45 things.
That man can eat.
He's our Theodore.
Yeah, at the end of his orders, it's like, that'll be 140 pounds.
Yeah. I was like, what?
I like this one from they, them, Melvin, sibling of the woker.
Can we get a CBT of the Chaser names?
I'm Australian and sometimes we get graced with the beast on our version
and would like to hear what the other beast thinks.
I didn't know they did other variants of the chase.
Yeah, that's brave.
There are three different variants.
There's the British, the Australian and the American variants.
Okay.
So we're going to need to get your CBT cringe-based or tough ratings.
I think we're going to have a lot of tough.
So we're starting with the British.
Yep.
The Beast.
Tough.
Or the transatlantic giant in America.
I suppose that's more based than the tough.
The Dark Destroyer.
Yeah, tough.
Just the destroyer in Australia.
The governess. Goviness.
That's kind of tough as well.
You sound like fucking Metal Gear characters.
Yeah, yeah.
The Sinoman.
The Sinaman I'm not crazy about.
It sounds so much like...
Cinnamon.
Yeah.
I'll go...
It's nearly there though.
Yeah.
I'll go tough cringe
Yeah, no fair
The cinnamon
The Vixen
Vixen's
Pretty tough as well
Yeah
Yeah
And the last one for the UK
The Menace
Oh
There's some cringe there
Because I think of Dennis the Menace
Yeah that's a bit
But it's tough cringe
Yeah
The menace
Yeah
Because he chases you down
Yeah
He's like the wild card
In the group
Yeah
Yeah
Bionicles
Yeah, he's like the yellow
Bionicle
Okay, the Australian ones
The shark
The shark
The shark
Um
That one doesn't really work for me
I'll be honest
The shark
Hmm
It's too like
Maybe it needs to be like a specific shark
Like the hammerhead or something
Yeah
Hammerhead would be fucking cool
Yeah
But then it'll be a bit spider many
The Great White
A bit racial
The makeup
A bit racial
If he was called
The Great White but he was black
Yeah
That'd be cool
Or
Mexican
A lot of Mexicans in Australia
Yeah
They actually might be I have no idea
I'll go cringe
For the shark
Okay
That sounds like someone who lones you money
And then breaks your knees
Yeah
That's kind of tough
That is kind of tough actually
I'll switch to tough
This is the only one
The next one
is the only one that drops the the
so it's just simply
Goliath
Goliath
I gotta say
so far Australian one's kind of lacking in source
in the way
the UK one has the source
There's only one I like
Especially thinking about
The accent as well
Yeah you have to picture it with the accent
Yeah
Yeah
The super nerd
I'm cringe
Super nerd
That's cringe as fuck
Yeah that one sucks
Yeah, what the fuck?
I'm not intimidated at all.
Yeah.
Goliath is better than that.
Yeah.
I'll go cringe stuff on Goliath and I'll go just cringe for the nerd.
The tiger mom.
That fucking sucks.
Do they even have tigers in Australia?
They've got such a variety of animals.
Why not just the tiger?
Tiger would be fine.
Yeah, the tiger.
Why the tiger mum?
I don't know.
Is that a reference or something?
I'm going to go cringe on that one.
That shit sucks.
The smiling assassin.
in. Okay, that's pretty tough. Yeah, that's a really good one. Yeah, that's tough based. There's a,
there's a juxtaposition going on there. You know, assassin's so violent, but smiling is so
sort of cheeky. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like, um, smile dog or something. And lastly, the professor.
Oh, okay. I like that. That's not bad, actually. Yeah, that's cool. That's okay. I'll give that one
a tough. That makes me think of like, um, a Spider-Man villain.
any of them the professor because they're all professors i'm picturing like a yeah a white lab coat
yeah yeah and like some some like circle glasses that are blacked out yeah or they do the anime
like reflecting white yeah and lastly american the high roller the high roller
that kind of works yeah that's cool i'll give that tough um the professor what the fuck
Different from the Australian professor.
The professor.
Yeah, it's still tough, though, isn't it?
Yeah.
The buzz saw.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, tough.
The queen.
Cringe.
The lightning bolt.
It's too verbose.
Word of the bum, verbose.
Cringe on that one.
And finally, the stunner.
That sounds like a video game,
me. You know, like the guy in Batman who hold the stun sticks?
Yeah. The sterno. No, I cringe.
They always bring my combos.
So honestly, let down by the Aussies there, they're normally better with word stuff.
Yeah. If it was like the, um, the didgerie doodagh.
That would be fucking tough.
The wiggly plum.
Yeah.
The, uh, the veggie might assess.
Yeah. Now you're thinking.
Um, ask for sin and you sure will re-sleeve says,
Pint or Cocktail?
Which pint?
If pint, what top cocktail if cocktail if cocktail branch branch?
Well, let's have a Google.
Well, it depends what I'm feeling.
Depends what's on tap.
That's always the first question.
Yeah, that's an excellent point.
If you're in pint mood.
Yeah, but if it's a pint, it's a lager.
If it's a cocktail,
I do like a bloody Mary
I do like an espresso martini
I do like an espresso martini is a shout
I do like a spicy mug
yeah I like spicy mug
I do like a thing with an olive
a martini
I'm not really into martini is it got to be real
I just like the way they look
they do look good they're cool
you can get other cocktails in that like glass
yeah but I like the color and everything
like they're visually cool but my favorite my go-to has always been the one i'm blank the name i'm blanking i'm
mokito thank you i love a mincee extra minty mahito those are good those are good some of these
are weather dependent for me yeah um also like if i have any inkling of a bit of heartburn i can't
touch any cocktail right right um can't really touch lager either but i'll stomach it for the lager
old-fashioned um love an old-fashioned that little slice of orange yeah i don't
I'm not crazy about how an old-fashioned tastes, but I love how they look.
And I had, I was, I drank a lot of them when we were in Vegas because, like, it just felt right.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah.
I did like a G&T there as well.
I like, sometimes I just like it simple, you know, just like a Volka tonic.
Yeah.
Volka cranberry is good.
Just vodka with anything, really.
Yeah, Volker straight, honestly.
Yeah, just a pint of vodka.
Yeah, so what you will about the Russians, but they did figure that shit out.
Yeah.
Yeah, they cooked with that one.
Very good.
Because I went through like a gin thing and then kind of just transitioned into vodka.
Yeah.
I just like having a bottle of vodka in the freezer and like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe a little bit too much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very moorish.
It's moreish and it's the empty calories that gets me outside of the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, the slow brain damage.
Who gives a shit about that, though?
Yeah.
I wish I knew less, so, yeah.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just scroll enough on YouTube shorts and take shots of vodka, and you'll be there, like, before you know it.
Yeah, I don't want to know more wrong.
I just want to know less.
Apparently, like, younger generations don't really drink anymore.
I think we're kind of, like, almost the cutoff point.
Well, like, it's just maybe there's like a price thing.
That's what's wrong with the world then.
Yeah.
They're all like, um, you know, like clavicular.
They're all like counting their calories and like only eating unseasoned chicken breast.
It's so stupid.
You don't have to live like that, to be fair.
Yeah, look at Brad Pitt.
He's a raging alcoholic.
Yeah.
He looks great in Fight Club.
Spooky one says,
What's the most addicted you've ever been to a video game?
I know Alex has had a situation.
history with destiny. Yeah, yours is destiny. But has there been any recent ones? Is there a game
that Jim struggled to stop playing and when he did stop? The thought of playing it is all he could
think about until he hop back on. For me personally in recent memory, it would have to be
Arc Raiders or Balatro. I highly recommend Balotro if you haven't played it or don't because
we may never see you guys again. Also, just like to say that, I can't thank you,
boys, enough for doing the show for all these years. You've really helped me through some hard
times, especially some shit I'm going through now. I never really leave questions here
anymore but I've been tuned in every week since 2017. A few months ago I started a new job. I'm
allowed to have earphones in while I work so I've been listening my way through from the very
beginning again and I've made it post corn 2020 era. Sorry if this is a long ramble have a good
rest of the cast mingers. Stay strong gobbler. Yeah. Anything recent. I've got to mention it's
destiny one though. I was never I was never hooked on any game ever like that since.
I'll have like short-lived obsessions
Eldon Ring
Yeah
I'd say from soft games
Just in general
Red There 2 maybe for me
Like I got quite addicted to like the online bullshit
You did yeah
Um Gears of War actually
I found Rainbow 6
Siege quite addictive
Yeah
Um
I typically
If I'm gonna get addicted to a game
It is typically like
an online thing.
Yeah, that doesn't really get me as much.
Like, you're talking like competitive.
Yeah, like PVP.
I didn't get quite into art graders, but it wasn't like a problem.
Yeah, I was into arc graders, but I wouldn't say I was anywhere near addicted.
It was just fun.
Probably, uh, Apex was the last one to me that was like...
Were you playing that?
Solo, because I only really played that, like...
A bit.
Solo.
Yeah.
I was always so shit at it, to be honest.
I was never particularly good.
Yeah, there was something moreish.
Yeah.
About, like, dropping down again.
Yeah, I haven't thought about that game in years.
Yeah.
No, it...
Yeah, it was fun while it lasted, but...
Yeah, I...
I just don't really have it in me a lot of the time.
You know?
Yeah.
It's a lot easier.
the younger you are and the less fewer
responsibilities you have. Yeah, no doubt
no doubt for sure. But what do you think
for me?
Um
I feel like Dark Souls won and it might be one.
Yeah, but I'd say that about
like your your like knowledge of it
because we've nearly finished it now actually
um, doing the co-op mod.
Like you just know everything which makes it way more fun for me
because I don't have to like really think
or remember anything especially with how much bullshit is in that fucking game.
I love Dark Souls, well, me.
I'm playing through Demon Souls at the moment.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think, uh, I think there's a reason
Dark Souls made waves and Demon Souls didn't.
What, you're like, it's not hitting you the same.
It's just not as good of a game, by any means.
Yeah.
It's like, not even close.
You can see the DNA.
Yeah, and like, don't get me wrong, there's some,
good cool shit um but fuck me is it just an asshole like like punishing where it's like yeah for
no reason yeah like in dark souls it always felt like natural in demon souls it's like why did you why are
you doing this to me why do you not want me to enjoy your game right yeah it's like just trying to
fucking piss me off i think that's why alderm ring is the one that got so yeah the mega one
you know yeah yeah because it just has that it's just less punishing i guess yeah um
yeah i can't think of any other recents that have really got me addicted um
i like to dangle has almost the fucking fatest you've ever fucking been in your goddamn life i was
once put on the antipsychotic abillify and i became 220 pounds
Or what, like, 15 and a half stone?
Why the fuck do you do the British use stone?
It's the least convenient way to say weight and fuck you if you've ever genuinely used it.
Fuck all British people.
Kilograms are a lot easier, just do kilograms.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty heavy.
I think I'm the fattest I've been.
Yeah, so for me, it's either now or like 2020.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know. Like I'm 30 now, so the second you turn 30, you just like...
Inflate. Yeah.
No, I thought you're looking quite healthy these days.
Really? Thank you.
Yeah. I thought, like, post-2020, you had put on some, but I...
Oh, definitely, yeah.
And everyone did. I did.
And it was when, because we kind of...
I started shortly after you, but that's when fasting became a thing.
That's right, yeah.
That was an easy way to kind of...
No, but what really...
It was Yumi and James in this room
and you were like, oh come on, let's do push-ups.
And like, I could barely do like two.
And I was like, no.
Yeah, that's a problem.
No.
This is like not okay, especially with these powerlifting jeans.
Yeah.
I'm wasting what God gave me.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
No, because for me, my equivalent one of that at the minute is...
I used to be able to do like 12 pull-up.
in a row which it's not a crazy amount but um it's more than what most people can do now i struggle
getting up to five it's like so it's the combination of getting heavier and getting weaker
it's like yeah yeah there's just something like don't like it don't like it um and then i start
going to the gym and then my fucking bullsack explodes and um yeah and it so the the antibiotics i'm on
this very moment
have a side effect of making
your tendons really vulnerable
so it explicitly
says like don't
exercise and
yeah and
apparently it can last for up to like three months after
wow yeah
so I'm going to go back to the gym and just fucking
destroy one of my arms or something
yeah yeah
no I was thinking about that with like
because I've just had this dumb bell
over there.
Yes.
And have this like routine, um, I can just do in here like, um, while I'm like waiting
for something to encode or just doing like menial shit.
Yeah.
And there is like a, it's like an endorphin psychological thing where it just feels like,
just lifting a weight.
It just feels like something that like dudes should do.
Well, everyone should do.
Absolutely. Um, there is.
And it doesn't have to be like a dumbbell just like a heavy box.
Yeah, or you could fill
like, you know, the big
bottles of water you can get.
Yeah.
You could fill that and lift that or something.
Yeah, yeah.
There's something about that.
Your body really wants to be worked.
Everything, like...
You never feel worse.
No.
But you always feel better after doing it.
And like, because I have dogs,
I'm walking a fair amount.
But it hits, like, something different.
Big time.
It's also the...
the like delayed reward of like maybe you can do 10 reps of a certain weight and then you keep doing that
and a month later you can squeeze out another couple reps that like long-term reward cycle
can become yeah so enjoyable and I think there's there's like a
weird stigma with like lifting weights and like this expectation to be this like I'm a
bodybuilder now I'm like this yeah I want to be this monster yeah but there's there's that
crazy naive um thought that typically I think a lot of women tend to say but it's like oh I
don't want to like get too bulky it's like good fucking luck yeah yeah like every man down the gym is
trying to get bulky and they can't you know that fucking
Yeah, especially if you're a woman.
It's even harder to gain muscle and shit.
Like, uh, yeah, there is something also like practical kind of about it.
It's like, oh, I can like lift something like literally.
Yeah.
Like if I'm moving shit around.
I mean, that's one of the best things about calisthenics.
Um, is it being able to manipulate your body in space?
Like that, that will never not be useful.
Yeah, yeah.
Especially when like you, you start seeing older people who struggle to get off the sofa.
Mm-hmm.
know it's like if if you keep training the ability to move your body then as you get older it's not
going to be such a struggle yeah yeah do everyone should do weight training i think yeah doesn't seem
like i think more workplaces should have gym access yeah because it the majority of jobs
require you to be inactive and that's really fucking bad for mental health like no wonder everyone's
killing themselves yeah it's like a death job thing um yeah yeah
it's why I've always
like this isn't doing anything really
but it's better than nothing
the forearm trainer
yeah yeah
like doing that as well
I don't know
I feel like humans need resistance
you don't know
life does yeah
like I mean that
you know mentally and physically
yeah
like it
but we obviously want to take the past
for least resistance
what we've got
I feel like in
in modern life at the moment
is it's like maxed out mental resistance and mined out physical resistance.
So like we're all super stressed all the time.
All these things going on that we've all got to do.
And life just gets more stressful the older you get.
Meanwhile, our body, like we eat shit food and we don't move.
Yeah.
So we just rot.
Rot.
Rot.
Rod
I got to do
I got to do this one from
Bionno Pizza
Did you know you can actually
develop a shellfish allergy
When you're already an adult
Let me spin a tail for you Jim
A tale as old as time
You and Alex are eating some delicious lobster
So buttery and good
juices flying off in every direction
Even Argy enjoys a little lick
The lobster is still alive too
And wriggling
Such is a delicacy of the time
in this tale. But then Alex starts to swell up. His throat closes, he chokes. You try and save him, but in the end it's just too late. He dies. A few nights after the incident you are visited by a stranger. He shows up in a blue mist in the middle of the night. It stinks of despair. You ask him who he is. He pulls off his hood and reveals himself to be the devil himself. But he sort of looks like a certain alien from a certain hit franchise of people in suits. I can't get into the details.
Anyway, he asks you if you will trade your soul for Alex's.
Here's his deal.
Alex comes back to life, but you, Jim, can never ever play another Soulslight game ever.
Do you accept the deal?
Please answer yes or no.
And he's got like multiple options.
Do you want more details?
Can I watch Souls games being played?
Um...
The devil shakes his head with a sly smile.
Oh Jim, I'm sorry, but my...
lips stay sealed. The deal is a deal and I cannot elaborate. It's up to you to decipher.
Well, yeah, surely. In the, in the wording of the deal, I can't play. Right? So I can watch.
It's written as can never play another Soulslike game ever. Another? So I can play all the
ones that I've already played. Okay, yeah, that's fine. You're worth that.
Unfortunately for you, Jim,
Life itself is considered a soul's like to the devil.
And you die instantly.
Also, Alex is reincarnated as a lobster and eaten.
So there wasn't much point to it all.
You know what? I'm glad you got to experience Jordan Peterson lobster style.
And if you said no, that was a good choice.
Because what the devil neglected to inform you is that Alex would come back as a lobster.
And you would unknowingly eat him.
What's that that it was being allergic?
Oh, because you developed the allergy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I see.
Yeah, it was kind of like a jumping off point kind of.
inciting incident type yeah yeah yeah that was a good story oh i liked that i liked the like multiple
choice interactivity yeah that was very clever that was some good shirts um now this one might piss you off
i'm warning you um you fucking piss me off me yeah what what did i do you know what you know what's
fucking kept me up at night for weeks what months maybe chick months what what chip months what what
month's
chip months
yeah what
the listeners
I'm gonna be
fucking interested
at one iota
what
but um
going back to when you said
um
Arkham Asylum over city
fuck me
it's so fucking
and I got the people on my side
yeah and they're all fucking wrong
it's insane
it's such rose-tinted glasses
you guys are fucking idiots
it's not straight up
play Arkham
city in the big fat year of
2026. I'm telling
you. I did it like five years ago.
I'm telling you, it's better than fucking
Spider-Man PS4. I always had that
opinion. It's better than... I think Knight is better
than both of the Spider-Man games.
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah,
night...
debatable, but
but
Arkham Asylum is not better than Spider-Man
Pierce 4.
Wrong.
you're fucking go back and play arkmas that's wrong that's like go back and play arcomasal right
it's like dark souls one right it started something it's not perfect a lot of it is perfect
no it's not it's not i'm asylum it started something big it started waves it started something no but like
no so arkham asylum is the demon souls no it's not yeah it is it's not yet is it is dark
Yeah it is. Yeah it is. Yeah it is.
It is. That's going to piss people off.
No. No. People are fucking stupid. If, if, if you can play, and I've played them back to back many times, and I'm playing through Arkham City again after getting like halfway through Arkham Asylum. And I've got to play through of Arkham Knight on the go. Right. I'm juggling these games at the minute. I'm giving it a, and I've played these games way fucking more than your average fucking Batman.
You have fucking chipmunk
Yeah
I've played more than you average
Theodore and he's a glutton
Okay
Fuck venomized but like
Bain
I was thinking that because of
And monk
Yeah
Like venomized
Venomized
He's got Bain's venom
Venomized and Venon
Yeah I was thinking exactly that
Venomized Venomize
Venomized Theodore
But anyway
No
Dude it
Arkham City is so
far beyond. It's such a leap
in quality.
To say anything less than
it's the best game ever made, you're fucking stupid and fat.
I think you've cooked yourself with this one.
No, I'm fucking haven't. I know these games.
I've collected every Ridler trophy
like three times in like all of these games, apart from night.
No, I know why you're saying this.
Why?
Because that bit where you carry Harley Quinn.
that's in night
oh shut up
you fucking assholes
see you don't know this shit
you just expose yourself
you fucking
well that's the only bit
from the trilogy that matters
so yeah
I do like the bit
in Arkham City though
where she's like taped up
yeah you would
what the fuck man
you can take the tape off her mouth
and she's like
yeah and then you can put it back on
little secret Easter egg
that you probably didn't even know
because you've only played it
like fucking want.
No.
I played the first two more than night, to be fair.
Oh, me too.
But Arkham City is so much
fucking better.
Story's better?
Yeah.
Batman's voice acting is better.
I can't believe you're dying on this hill.
It's just unnecessary.
What fucking other hill would I die on ever?
I think it's more like a better comparison
is like a new hope to empire.
Strong arguments of both.
no empire's better
but you don't get it without
and there's not
no but who gives a shit
rough and like
no no I
I fucking hate that argument
why
why can't both be good
they are both good
but to say the Arkham Asylum's better
just because it came first this fucking thumb
would it be wrong to say a new
you've been wrong no
exactly
case closed
no no
Yeah.
No, I, I think you're, you're too distant from them.
It's not true.
I replayed them just mere years ago.
Now we're circling.
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
When?
What year?
2021 or 22.
I bought the, like, collection.
Years ago then.
You want me to play the both of them every day?
Until you agree with me, yeah.
Yeah.
No, you're so fucking wrong, dude.
No, no.
You've just pissed everybody off.
No, everybody's stupid, genuinely, if they agree with you.
Everyone.
You're all the crazy ones.
Yeah.
We have to do this one from Ronnie Bones, who says,
Hello, Jim, mate.
What new car did you get?
And did you get a good deal on it?
Cheers.
How do you know I got a new car?
You mentioned it.
And this is why I wanted to bring this up because there was a Reddit thread.
And this is going to vis-y-off.
Did Jim randomly get wealthy?
Catching up on the last few episodes
and Jim says he bought a PS5 Pro,
aka the most expensive console,
$800,900.
And he bought a new car.
He also mentions he gets those hyper
overpriced yard pints whenever he goes out.
I thought Jim was poor and being exploited by Alex.
I don't know.
I'm like listening to too well-off people.
What the fuck?
So the two, like, musical events I go to a year, I'm not allowed to buy a fucking two pintor.
Fuck you.
Two, I bought a shitty Mazda fucking Mazda 2 Tamura.
It's like a three-door fucking 1.3 litre engine piece of shit car.
It's actually a beautiful little runner.
What was the other thing?
Oh, I bought a PS5.
The PS5 pro one.
Yeah, we went to CEX. We got it secondhand.
And what? Like, I don't have fuck all else, dude.
That's all I got.
And you got it at its most expensive when the price had just gone up for GTA.
Yeah, I waited for the perfect time to spend as much money as possible.
There was a good, like, top.
comment on it though from Captain Jack's off with a picture
when the class war is happening and I got a
Captain Jack off the creators of P-Mont
Dude I'm I am far from fucking wealthy
I bought a shit car for 1.3,000 pounds
right so you're right, so you're fucking rich
yeah and now I can't afford to buy a Lucas Aed sport down the garage
because I
port a car
because the car
that I was replacing
was a mini
that if you drove it
for two minutes
it would overheat
and steam
would come out
the fucking engine
I hate that
mini
I hate that fucking mini
trust me
it wasn't like
it wasn't like
the fucking pisser
yeah
no I haven't
owned a car
for
two years
yeah you sold
the salica
when did I sell the salica
years ago
yeah I sold
the Salika
to James
and I've
so I've
I've just been bumming off your insurance and mummy's insurance.
Yeah.
Driving a fucking...
I mean, your car's nice.
But, like, my mum's just got a fucking Toyota Yaris.
So that's been like my main car, and I can only use it when she lets me.
So it's like, I'm not fucking wealthy.
They said it's all from the rugpole of Beast coin.
I should do that
Another person said he married Bryce Dallas Howard
Oh
If that's how I got rich
I'd be so proud of myself
Yeah that would just be a fair play moment
Yeah
That would be like a triple win
Or um
One of them said
They went to Vegas and
Jim won money in poker
I did win like 30 pounds or something
you did pretty well he did better than me to be honest
well I've played enough fucking
uh red dead blackjack and black
I've been putting in the work putting in the hours
I'm trying to tape what's ours
oh my god dude
um
okay maybe we should do one more here
um
yeah I sound on this one from lead poisoning
no question
but story of the venomized variety
Many years ago I worked with my friend in a customer service job and we became close friends with another guy in our department.
One year around the holidays, he started having issues with rent payments and medical bills.
My friend and I loaned him some money to get him through the year since we had the money and were close friends.
He was our fourth in GTA online heist and cod zombies Easter eggs.
Come Christmas, he sincerely gifted my friends and I each a venomized carnage from go bar.
Neither of us even remotely like Funkos
so it was just a one-off weird thing
Little did we know it was actually a venomized herald of despair
A few months pass
And the money problems only get worse for him
But we had to stop giving him money
Since we'd already loaned him almost two grand
Between the two of us
Damn
Come to find out he just lied about all the money troubles he was having
He never told us what he was even spending the money on
Aside from venomized carnages of course
By Christmas the following year
He'd been fired
for stealing out the register, broke up with his fiance, started working at a gelato stand,
got engaged with a different woman, broke up with her too, got fired from the gelato stand,
fell off the second story of our town's mall, and then dropped off the face of the earth.
You're saying he died?
The only physical reminder of this two-plus year of venomized friendship, even existing,
is the ugly venomized carnage-eyed funco I have in my closet.
The moral of this tale is to never loan out money to friends, lest you end up venomized like me.
What a bullet point.
That's a really powerful story.
I could see Martin Scorsese doing that.
Yeah, that's harsh.
Yeah, Leonardo da Vinci fucking clapping cheeks on the Funko pops or whatever.
Clapping Margot Robbie's cheeks.
Well, he's looking at his venomized pop vinyl.
Yeah.
in the mirror.
It's the only way you can
nut.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He looks in the mirror
like Christian Bale
in that one film.
But he's looking over.
American graffiti.
Yeah, American graffiti
where he looks in the mirror
over to the mantelpiece
where the venomized carnages.
And the album poster on the walls?
Chip wrecked?
Yeah, chip wrecked poster.
Damn, I think
that's it, man.
Yeah, I got a bit of a headache from all this Batman stuff, I think.
Oh my God.
Do you want to just talk about that a bit?
No, no.
You're never going to let that shit go.
I need you to change your mind.
You're going to be Stephen Crowder.
Archon City's best than Arkansas Island.
Change my mind.
It is, though.
It might be the best superior against.
You deploy his same fucking tactics, too.
No, I don't.
Yeah, you're the Stephen Crowder of, um,
If I, if that were true, I'd be moving that mic away from your mouth right now.
Yeah, true.
And I'd be justified in doing that, because you got some stupid fucking points.
What, what's your points other than asylum came first?
Justified.
No, what?
Name a single other point.
No, we can't do this.
No, do it.
We've nearly been recording for three hours straight.
That's fine by me.
No, you don't want to do this.
Okay, next year after hours, after, um, the Dast Shranging Talk is going to be, um,
which is better.
Arkham Asylum or Arkham City.
The five hours.
Objective discussion.
Okay.
No subjectivity.
Stay tuned.
Check out the Patreon because that's going to be up there.
It's going to be nine hours.
Justified.
