JAR Media Posdact - A Nutty Crazy Story - JARCAST Episode 156
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Good afternoon, morning, evening or night.
Mingers and gentlemen of the jury, this is the JARCast with your host, Alex, and joined by James over there.
We are the best duo.
And we're back again.
The best jar duo.
Yeah, we go hard.
This is episode 156.
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So this is for you guys.
Yeah, and today we're joined by a 10-year Abelor.
10-year Abelor whiskey?
Yeah.
Got into whiskey recently.
You have, and it was a surprise to me, because, you know, from Christmas I got loads of whiskeys.
And, you know, I always take them around for us all to try, you know, give opinions.
And then over last week, you're like, I've been getting a taste of whiskey.
so we met up on the Wednesday
for some shit reason
we watched a really terrible movie
no reason we'll get into probably in a sec
yeah and uh
you were gonna go to Tesco's look at whiskey anyway
so I was just like you know
let's just meet up and watch something
so I joined you down there
and we got a
it's a 12 year
Glen footage
it was just good whiskey
so we just you know
sat back had a few whiskeys
so maybe one day
one day
the JAR fans might get a
a whiskey video.
Just talking about whiskeys.
Yeah?
Because riskeys, out of all the alcohol,
it's like, there's so many
fucking layers to whiskey.
Like, you can see,
there's layers to, like, every, like,
alcoholic drink, but with risky, it's like,
there's the palate and, you know,
there's all that, and it's, like,
there's so much to talk about.
So, yeah.
So,
something
quite big happened in the last,
week for us something huge to the point of when we got told we were fucking speechless actually
like playing apex legends in complete silence because we were so like yeah it just happened to
be i've recently started playing apex it was it was it was a bruh moment a literal fucking
moment so a few times on this podcast we've mentioned about a friend of us a friend a very
a friend a friend known since our childhood yeah so
long.
10 plus years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I streamed with him and Jal fans did watch it.
I fucking streamed with him.
Really?
Yeah.
We found out something about our friend that was, that came out of nowhere.
Literally, no messages from him for like weeks.
Yeah.
And then he said, we had a group chat with him and he hadn't been active for a while.
Yeah.
And right as we dropped down into an apex map, we just sat there in Discord about
We're getting our gaming on.
We were just being edgy and just kids and, you know.
And I happened to see a notification pop up from the group chats and it was from him.
So it was like, oh guys, he's finally said something.
No, but before that even happened, I was downstairs like cooking my lunch the next day.
And I saw him like on like WhatsApp like something he's typing.
So I was like, oh, he's typing, he must be back.
And then, you know, you started typing so it didn't show any more.
But that whole time he was writing this, this paragraph, this huge,
text
but what happened was
he wrote this huge
this huge like
multiple paragraph
thing this huge
fucking text like a letter
almost
directed to us saying
how like revealing that he was actually
a
a Christian
yeah
which of course isn't a big deal at first
but is that the information
that started trickling out around that
I'd always suspected he may have been religious in some form but yeah I always kind of guessed that
but obviously you know we don't care if like if you know if I come up being like Jewish or something
it's just like okay you know we don't care yeah um but then of course it became a question of what
so we have to reel it back even more because this friend of ours he he vanished around
2012 basically as soon as we finished school so it was like 2012 2013
you know he was going to like college um you were to see already out of school we were leaving i was
going to college as well jim and we were staying in school i think it's my last year of sick form
yeah um he then he went off to college and he literally disappeared he went we didn't see or hear
from the guy he deleted his facebook he didn't contact any of us the only encounter was when i saw him
in a in a tesco yeah i happened to see him in a tesco and we just talked from it that's it that's the only
contact we had until like, what was it
two years ago?
2017.
Then he suddenly, I was out of the country
at the time, he suddenly was just
back. He just started messaging
me and Rubin.
And it gradually turned
into we started talking to him again.
We started hanging out with him.
He met us, he came here, we
met for meals and stuff.
I mean, this went on for a couple years, pretty much.
Seeing him quite regularly talking to him
regularly. It's happened. Yeah, he would play games
with us, you know, Rainbow 6,
combat he was a part of the gang and in these two years that he'd been back in
contact never once mentioning anything no nothing to do with religion or God or
anything like that he was just the normal person we knew from when we were and it was
honestly never relevant really he was just he was the map the friend that he was
the same person to all of us anyway yeah but then yeah we were sat there
fast water now we were sat there playing apex get this message saying sorry guys but
I can't be a part of this group anymore because it goes against his religious like
his religious views and he's not he can't he can't get down with the things we talk about
in the group chat and we're we of course we joke about we and anything we joke about
religion we joke about sex we joke about anything is that it's that thing where we literally
all just start joking and just say the most disgusting just stupid shit because that's what
you're doing group chats you just yeah it's just bullshit it's shit posting it's all group
There are plenty of screenshots on all of our different Twitters of just the horrible stuff that goes down on there, but...
We've been literally posted.
Posted a fucking tweet literally moments before it happened.
Yeah.
Just like this, the most fucking stupid shit.
And it was just like, fuck.
But yeah, it wasn't really the shock that he was religious, exactly, but it was more the fact he'd kept it a secret and the fact that suddenly it was an issue.
Whereas over the last two years,
He was in on all the, like, banter and all the fun and times.
He makes dumb jokes, he play games.
He specifically said in this big paragraph how he feels kind of bad about playing video games with us and stuff, because he, especially, this guy he loves, we loved Halo.
He was the biggest fucking Halo fan in the world.
He's partially responsible for why we will always talk about Haley, and we are so obsessed with it.
Yeah.
And of course, the theme of Halo is about blind faith and why that may be bad.
So, of course, he has to write Halo off with his slant of Christianity that he follows.
And he can't.
He says he can't play any violent video game anymore and that kind of thing.
So it's like, right, that's off the table then.
And then, so then it became right.
Okay.
So we should probably ask some questions now, because he just,
left the group chat. As soon as he sent it
he left, he left the Discord groups that we
have that we used to play games, the WhatsApp
groups, he was gone. She activated his
Twitter, yeah. He was completely gone.
Then, so
Ruben and I started messaging
him the next day. You were trying to find out
some more deeps. You were just trying to see how...
Yeah, we had to work backwards to try and figure
out, okay, gosh,
so let's try and
figure out what you do believe. And
fast forwarding a little bit,
We eventually figured out he's a fundamentalist creationist.
So he has a literal interpretation of the Bible.
He believes the world was created in 7,000.
Seven days.
Years.
Eight days.
Yeah, and all this.
A literal interpretation of it.
Which then led to us being like, oh, how do you feel about, you know, gay people?
Yeah.
And then it gets a bit yikesy because, you know, Bible.
don't really like...
You don't really like, you know...
If you're interpreting it literally,
um,
that's a negative,
you know?
It is.
So,
so it just got to this point where it's like,
Jesus, man.
It's like...
It's just the fact that he's had this all, like,
secret and it's like,
it makes you question,
like, what was real,
like, all the times we've had with him,
if that was, like, actual genuine
because he made it out as if, like,
being friends with us
and talking to us about stuff was like,
sinful he was his whole perspective was that
I've been losing my faith recently
hence why I've been talking to you guys again and got back
talking to you guys yeah but that whole time he always seemed like he was
loving it yeah he would just he would go fucking hard in just doing all of this
the dumb shit we do like if if you know a lot of times he was the instigator too
yeah he'd be like you're playing games just fucking play games just sit up till fucking midnight yeah let's play
some halo. I'm off of work. James just
fucking play games and we sat there and played games
to like four in the fucking afternoon
from 9 o'clock just going
hard and when we mean playing games
it was like playing Rainbow 6 and purposely
fucking our team because that's all we did
we were fucking sinful cunts in
games and it's like
what the fuck?
Yeah the
it genuinely
bugged, I know it bugged you as well
in the same way. That's why
we met up on the Wednesday. Yeah because it was
quite a striking bit of news to us
finding out you don't actually really know someone
you have known for so long.
And it did explain some things about
his strange coming and going
and all that kind of stuff.
But it was quite a strange experience
because that first message he left
explaining all of it
read like a copy past a meme.
Like it really was quite extreme.
It was and we actually reverse
searched it to find if it was like copy and pasted up some.
we were so baffled
it just didn't seem
possible
I didn't believe he wrote it
I was like
this can't be him
this wasn't the person
I was playing games
with like three weeks
that's not what he'd do
and ever since
him sending that message
whenever we've messaged him
he's just a different person
now it's like you're speaking
to a different person
whereas before it was really
casual nonchalant
the language he used was different
the way he texted was different
now it's all very formal
and the language is different.
It's like the way we talk in group chats is so stupid,
like the names we have for each other, like yours and a cage.
It's like there's no sense in what we say,
and that's the way we talk.
But then he went from that,
being in that group to just talking like a machine.
Like he's reading a script, and it was just like...
Yeah.
I do want to...
It felt alien.
Like we're talking to like someone from a spaceship.
Yeah, and every time you were trying to find out more information
or asking questions,
about it. There was always
sort of some deflection going on.
You never quite got the true story
or the details you were
actually after. It's kind of like a politician.
You know, you'd ask them a question. They'd answer
it by not actually answering it. They say a lot
but at the same time they say very little.
Yeah. Yeah. So it just
kept going round and round in circles. Ruben got
quite annoyed. Ruben did and it's like
having experienced something like it's like
when you find out something major like that
you doubt everything you've experienced.
It changes how you see things.
to the point where you're very confused
and we were
because we met up on Wednesday
just to talk about it
because we were both just like
okay what the fuck
so that's why we watched
a really crap movie
it's just like something
just take your mind
off of you know what it is
well yeah
you have like a pit in your stomach
yeah
because it doesn't feel real
you feel
because it did just come out
out of left field totally
literally
before that actually happened
I was downstairs
cooking my lunch
and you were like
I wish James would get
it was gay so I can rape him.
Like, that's the shit we were talking about.
Like, horrendous stuff we always talk about.
And then I replied with,
you don't have to be gay to rape me, Alex.
It's just like, stupid stuff.
And to preface, a lot of the time,
our friend would join in on that kind of stupid banter.
It's like, that's how we organise talking about,
like, playing games together.
Is this, like, some weird situation?
And then it's like, that's us.
That's how most people, like, are.
I tried to ask him,
like, I'm sorry if we offended you based on,
beliefs but do you have any examples as to what actually upset you yeah but he said um that it
wasn't anything specific but it was more that you know he had to be more in tune with god or something
it was all that kind of thing and it's difficult because you don't want to sound like oh
he's come out as being religious so we instantly dislike him but it was more the fact that
now he just seems like a different person entirely it's not even about the religion it's
So when we talk to him, he doesn't sound, like, he's not the person we knew.
That's, that's it.
Yeah.
It's hard to have a connection, and that person doesn't seem like the person you've known for, like, 10 years.
That's, that's the problem.
I couldn't believe it, yeah.
I'm speechless, and it's still, like, it's still weird to get my mind over now.
It's just, like, you know, that person I knew for so long, like, isn't there.
And of all, of the group that we have that he was a part of, it's like, he's the only one who was, like, the car guy.
So like we'd go
Like we'd go to like Swindon or whatever
And we'd the whole way
Just talking about cars
Talking about engines talking about that stuff
And you'd be like
What the fuck are they talking about
But I love that
Yeah
That was like the thing we had
And now it's like
I don't have that
He was a great guy to have around
And talk to and everything
He was he's fun
He was a fun guy
Like he was
You know
You said like how Jamie
Like triggers me
And then I trigger you
And it's like that
He was like
He was one of them
He was the one who like
Trigger all of us
At the same time
It's like
He was like a catalyst
To their chaos
so that he's JAR.
Mm-hmm.
And we were planning to have him on the show even.
We did.
I actually asked him and I was like, you know, you've got this happening.
So, you know, just tell me when you want to come on.
Yeah, like, while Jim has been away with his Mexican family, he'll be back soon.
We wanted him to come on to, like, add another layer to the episode and just, like, have a laugh.
Because that would have been.
Yeah.
And then it's just like, he just has a message, and then he's gone.
And this was, like, weeks before I literally streamed with him, you know, with Jarfans viewing.
And that's like, he's seen.
That's that sudden change that is so disturbing to me.
Which I've experienced a change like that before, but I was just like, okay, what the fuck?
This is crazy.
But I, on the day that it happened, I went over to my parents to talk to them about it.
And they were saying how...
No, wasn't that the day after?
Because that's when you went to your parents, then we went to Tesco.
So that was like the day after, I think.
Because when we found out, it was like...
Oh yeah, it was already too late.
Yeah, it was the next day.
But point being, my parents...
my parents told me how the same thing happened to them once upon a time a couple decades ago
they had a friend who just suddenly threw some trauma in their life became like a born-again
christian and just vanished never saw her from them again is that kind of thing where it's like
it takes a massive event a traumatic event for for people to suddenly you know turn religious
It's like, it's how some religions pray on people to get them to join the region.
Yeah, of course your mind flings are the most negative thing possible.
Not as like an insult to anyone who's religious out there who listens.
Oh no, of course not.
I'm just saying it's just like in some situation.
But the thing is it's like it was clearly an issue for him that there was some clash going on with him being religious wasn't going to work with us not, you know.
Whereas I'm sure if he was just.
a modern day regular Christian that wasn't so hardcore fundamentalist
then I'm sure nothing would be different
like I don't care we don't care you know we accept that you know
we're just friends that's what we're sure most Christians out there
like they don't care about you know stupid video games and stuff and they can
appreciate the context behind the Bible and you know question things a bit more
because he really has turned to a blind faith
where you cannot get any information out of him anymore
you can't question anything
and it doesn't sit with me
and I couldn't be on eggshells around him
like pretending that I would be okay with him
having these views about gay people and evolution and stuff
where it's just a bit too much for me.
For me I find this if people do have like homophobic views
like in line with the Bible
It's just like, I find that difficult because it's just like, it's, I'm so okay, okay with that.
Why wouldn't you be?
But it's like, yeah, pretending that it's like, I can't do that.
You can respect their faith to the point where you can say, look, you can, you can believe this stuff all you want.
I disagree with it.
However, I, I can't condone our relationship anymore in terms of being friends.
so I'm afraid
it's kind of like an automatum
it's kind of like it's the big thing
for us because it's like he took himself out of the
group chat he took us himself out of everything
it's just like when you suddenly just walk
out of a group chat this is the main way you communicate with your
friends it's like how do you
how do we now breach a like make a bridge
between him and our group it became a black
and white thing instead of
uh if he'd approached it in terms
of saying something like
look guys
it's been really awkward for me these past
a few years because I'm actually Christian and some of the things you guys talk about or say
sometimes offends me or what he never really made it clear what it was um like for example
if I was religious in some way and I was in a group chat that said something that maybe
personally offended me I would say hey listen could could we maybe not talk about or joke about
that kind of thing where it's like you don't joke about things that you know
affect the people and the friends that you have when you know what they're going through
but if we if we don't know how we can't just assume otherwise we could we could never
make fun of anything yeah it's eggs it's like oh we can't make a joke about Alex falling
off his chair because somehow it might because maybe I've done that in the past and I've got
trauma from it and now you know it's like that level of like you know I've been through
trauma imagine you have it's like my joke about that because that's how you deal with it
yeah I I make all the time jokes about
you know, that video I made ages ago
and like the stuff I went through
I make jokes about that
my friends, my other friend's group makes jokes about it
because it's like, by joking
about it yourself, it's just like you don't
get offended or upset by it
and it's like having to walk on eggshells
whenever you want to talk someone, it's just like
it makes being a friend very, very difficult
and that's not
it's like, I couldn't like wake up in
morning and say some dumb shit
because it's like, okay, okay
is this, I went worried that I'm like upset
him or offended him and I don't like that
mm-hmm my try I did I did ask him multiple times
um look if we did offend you or something
please tell us what we said or what it was but he
kept reiterating it was nothing about that but it was that's the thing
yeah it's this of course it was otherwise he wouldn't have the
the real moment is literally moments for this happen it's seen on the
screenshot with his Twitter we made a jump oh we literally
we've been saved an image from a like a Christian Facebook group
and posted it and that was a
joke and it was just like loll yeah and then that was literally it was a joke about religion
moments before he had this thing yeah it was just like okay and that's when it suddenly
turned it to Alex saying he's gonna wait me and it's just like it turned into this farcical
game where we were going through the group chat history looking for things that might have
upset him which we found a few because it's just like that's how because i don't think there's
anything any group any person any anything that we haven't joked about i'm made fun of
because everything's off the table
because it's our private group chat anyway
and he's been in it for years
so we figured by now
whatever he's part of it now
there's some of the jokes you made recently
we've literally made countless times
in the bars when he's been there
so it's just like
why would it suddenly be an issue?
And he's joined in with us too
so it's not like
you know we're being dicks
you talked about rape
but I'm pretty sure he's made a joke
about wape as well at some point
because that's like
it's a dumb
group chat
no
it was just a
a unique experience because I've never experienced anything like it
something so out of left field so confusing so unexpected
totally unexpected and it's left us in a really weird like limbo
I mean there's still so many questions that we don't really know that's the thing
it's like we'll drive ourselves mad trying to question everything it's like we've
just got we literally had to just like cut ourselves on it and just be like you know
we can't this is just not right yeah it's a bit
too much for me it's just it's crazy it's just it lingers on your mind like all week
I've been thinking about it worked sitting there just like this is crazy well and
now you can't escape it you can't move on because every single thing there are all
these triggers now like Halo as a franchise is always gonna remind me of them now
yeah and it's always gonna lead back to that story and all these different things
all these memories all these you know games you know when we went bowling it's just
like the jokes everything it's just gonna be like
we think Jim and I went to see
solo or Star Wars story with him
just all these
things where it's like there's a link
to all of it
and that's going to take years
like decades to just
you know to cut yourself on
it's not something you'll forget
I don't think
so yeah that's been our week
it's been absolutely crazy
we've been having great fun on Apex
and it's just like oh
oh
it was just
and while Jim
away as well. Jim's been away the
entire time so he hasn't actually like
he's never seen any of it until it was just like Jim
I send a message saying
look at the group chat because we're fucking
in shock and then Jim was just like
Jim made the fucking like joke where he said
I've been away for two weeks and he turned
him into a fucking religious cellar
what the fuck
yeah and during this time
Jim he's only like told you
through messaging but like the only
like times mean we even have like seen him
he literally posts a meme in the
group chat of attention thank you for your attention that's it that's oh we'd know if he's still
alive and it's just like really dumb and then this happens and he's just like
what the fuck this no but it's weird that he came back when i was on holiday he leaves when jim
was on holiday it's just like the timing is so weird and especially as this was this happened a day
after the the last jar class where we talked about porn and porn addiction it's just like
yeah so maybe it was about that porn addiction thing yeah and it's just like there's so
many things that it was just like, whoa, what? It's crazy. Yeah. I don't want to insult anyone
as if I do want to reiterate that honestly, we don't care what your beliefs are. Um, is that yeah,
we don't care. It's like, you judge, you're not, you judge someone by that character and, you know,
who they are, not like, you know, what, what they believe or their sex or whatever. It's,
we don't care what your beliefs are. However, if we, if we, you know, if we, you know, you know, you know,
we want to associate you and you do have extreme beliefs, we might not be okay with that.
And I think that's more than fair enough to, we weren't mean to him.
No, we weren't.
We weren't, you know, cruel in any way.
I haven't spoken to him because it's just like, that's difficult, you know, because I'm just like so weird.
Yeah.
We might talk about this more when Ruben and Jim are back at the same time.
Yeah, because obviously Ruben was there, so he's got what he has to say.
And then Jim is just like, you know.
Ruben was definitely the most passionate about it.
Ruben went in and he tried to get information and find out.
Well, Ruben went in the hardcore way to get information, and I went in the more...
Yeah, it's too shay, Ying and Yang, really, of the way you both approached it.
Yeah.
Yeah, and then I stayed out of it.
And this was all happening while I was at work, because I was at work,
and I was just seeing these messages of these, like, this stuff that...
And it's just like, holy shit.
And it just, yeah, he just kept escalating to a point where it was like,
oh, we're going to have to make a decision, lads.
Yeah, and then, you know, that happens.
It's like it's sad because it's like I've lost a friend like it's honest I was close to and it that that hurts
It's just weird losing a friend in such a strange way where he still exists over the
It's not like drifting apart gradually. It's like being cut off. Yeah, it's like just cut off like he's not the person he was
And that's really difficult
Yeah
I mean, yeah, I still read it and it doesn't really sink him properly. It's very very strange
I know, it's weird
Speaking of being addicted to wanking, though
Last week we did talk about. Some good feedback from that
Whank episode. Yeah, like I've read all the comments
the day because I was just, that's what I do. You know,
saying I, you know, I go on the Reddit. I mainly just look at how, you know,
people think of things, you know, if they've got an idea, you know,
it's good to have that, that we can do that and that we do.
So I was, you know, something I talked about heavily. So I was just like,
I'll go on the comments, you know, see what people think.
You know, same way I did on that.
Big Bridge over did last year.
And it's interesting to see people think
because there's people disagreeing with.
There was people who took what I was saying
was just like, you know, I know what you mean,
but like I think, you know,
you focus too much on this
and then you should have focused on this.
And it's good to have that criticism
and it's good that we have a community
that's like that
because, you know, our community
is proven with the fucking best.
I like that just, you know,
we talked about it, but we,
I ever exaggerated it
because we got out a bit of like humor
and a bit of like spin to us talking about it.
Because, you know, talking about porn addiction,
it's just like it can be very boring unless you make it exciting yeah so there's obviously there's
some things that i said which are incorrect and all of that but it's just like you know people
are saying like you know at least james talking about it has opened it and made me think about it and
it's like i've i've read messages some people saying that they've experienced it and it does
it does fuck you know dysfunction and everything up and it is a very real thing and it's like it's
good that we can open people's eyes because in my belief it's like we've got this platform so we
should always use it for not all the time but we should be able to bring massive
things to the intention like you know mental health and all this to raise
awareness for good causes you know which we've both done you've done it on your
YouTube channel we've done it here so you know and I think that's great yeah
it's it's a surprise actually because I didn't think that many people would be
like oh yeah it's this well because it's it's something that will have affected
your life no matter what angle you're coming at it from whether you've
experienced it or I mean everyone's jerked off or a thought about jerking off or not
jerking off so this issue and I actually had a message from Joseph and he's you know he
created the Lego here you know he's he's a epic jar fan and he sent me a message saying
your video made me realize that you know this this is actually a bigger issue in society and
he's trained to become a psychologist I'm pretty sure or therapist I mean so it's like he was
just like I didn't think of this and it's thank you for you know making me feel of that and
it's like him being like
like that it just makes me feel good because it's just like you know different ways we're
helping you know we're helping other people who's who that's what that's what I like about
um jar is like most of the time they're memers and they haven't fun the jar found they go hard on
me it's like they will fuck yeah they will go hard on us they will roast us and then it's just like
the next moment they're like 100% when we do talk about things that's serious which is
only now and again but they treat it seriously and they yeah it's like the visual i made last
year like there was loads of support going out which was great and you know you know
that's heartfelt for me and that's something I'm always going to remember but then there's like
Joseph as well we never spoke about a time we're going to make a video on it which you still might
but Yosef you know he I think we read it out on the cast but he um the video made him you know
talk in front of a crowd in his school about mental health which yeah yeah obviously helps
hundreds more people and it's like a ripple effect and now he's done it again and it's just like
that's awesome that original video has gone on to there's so much effect from it just from me
talking about it's like you know I want to go back and like you know talk again about the
video I made last year yeah and you know I'm having difficulties because it's hard for me to talk
about but it's something I want to do and we gather we will hold on we'll be back after these
messages you know as I was saying it's like I want to go back and talk again about mental
health and that's a lot more to be said there's a lot I've learned and that that could be
coming over the next few weeks because you know yeah I think
having us both experience
major things it's like it's good that we can
talk about it and it's good that people
do listen and you know
understand when we do and actually
you know learn from it
it's very good yeah
we might do that as a separate video thing
we would because there's a lot to talk about
yeah and it's difficult and it's you know
everything like that
but yeah
to our community you know
big thumbs up big thumbs up to the Ming
I just I find it funny that
whenever we talk about really hard stuff
It's always you and me.
It's like we're the, we're the two jar members who go hard,
you know, slinging risky, apple or all tenure.
Yeah, a bit of liquid honesty helps.
If we keep this up, we're going to be known as the alcoholic,
so we can't have that.
Well, so this is the second half of the jar cast
where we head over to the JAR Media Reddit
to answer questions from the community.
If you want to leave your own questions,
head over to the JAR Media Reddit,
and there's a thread that is pinned there at the time.
top? Yep. We can leave any question
you desire. And we may
or may not answer it, you know, depending on
the episode. And how shit they are.
You, you love saying that they're really shit.
Stash, D.K. is going to start us off
this episode. DK. Donkey Kong
or Drift King?
Donkey Kong's mustache?
If you're suddenly transported into the middle of the
first jar cast, what hilarious antics would take
place?
I'd probably be a
like oh my god I was so underweight but honestly back then there's that there's a video
where in the intro you can see my legs and they're so skinny I never realized how um like
thin you were yeah like we've been said like you are so fucking skinny and it's like being son
it's always been skinny and always been like that it's like I don't notice it but then it's
like you quite notice it when you're in it and I thought I was still fat back then I know
which is really dangerous if you think about it you're skinny and you're thinking you're fat
that's like
no yeah
oh shit
that's a
body dysmorphia
101
you know I do
if I went back
there
what
I'd replace
the shorts I have
with trousers
because I
wore shorts a lot
back then
so it came
from the
bonus shorts
oh because
did it
show the
dick bulge
sometimes
yeah
and those shorts
since then
they've actually
broken
the button
doesn't actually
work like
it's not even
yeah you've
still got them
I've put a cable
tied them
together
and I wear
them sometimes
and they're what I
wear to work on cars
because you know
working on cars you're gonna get filthy
so I wear like a nose on it
I wear really terrible
I wear really terrible clothes
and I would not wear those shorts
if I went back
because they got known as the bonus shorts
that's an issue that's like
it would be cool to do a cast
where
it's like us now
with the other two members
being us from back then
whereas
it would be
completely different
because since then
we've both gone through so much
and it's just like
I think we've both aged quite a lot.
I'm like 10 times as older as I was back then.
And you've changed.
You're like, you're a different person.
I don't know you anymore.
Yeah, man.
So it would be really strange because it's like,
they'd be so hyperactive and we'd just be like,
what the fuck are they?
The fuck are they making.
So it'd be interesting concept for sure.
DFS off as a,
Al, says, what questions have you wanted asked, but never have been asked, and can you answer them?
I've always thought it'd be interesting to talk about our idols and, you know, how we idolized them and, you know, what have they, like, affected in our lives.
That's something about idols.
I've always thought, like, that would be an interesting subject, but I don't know if you guys, you know, put as much importance on your idols as, you know, I do.
Like, celebrity or, you know.
No, just like someone you idolized, like, you know, could be anyone.
one but sometimes you know most of time they are celebrities in some way because then the
public eye and that type of thing and I've always thought that's an interesting subject I
even said said on like a few cast ago saying ask us this I feel like we have talked about
idols before I don't know I don't know I don't know do you want to answer it then because
that was the question was that's what the question was yeah answer that's what the question
do you go first because um you're gonna cringe at mine I have plenty of idols but I'm
struggling to even think of any now i did why that's why i find it interesting because to me it's
like how can someone be your idol if you don't remember them and you and they because it's
they haven't like affected your life in some way it's different people based on like my age where
it was and what everything and everything like that like at one point it was all the animation
youtubeers like only eager app to psychic pebbles you know when they were huge on youtube
back they were big into
I really defined
my sense of humor
the things I like to draw
that kind of thing
around about then
and I really liked
certain directors
I've always really liked
I was obsessed with Tim Burton
when I was at my
perfect hot topic kind of age
drawing spirals all the time
and edgy stuff like that
yeah I don't know who it would be now
particularly
I sort of idolize
certain aspects of many people
you know
I want a really random one
you might not link with me who I really like
the
idea of is
Jack Black
you want to know why
that size is interesting actually
I just like how
he has no filter and he's
not scared to show who he is at all
that's what I really
I do link that to you because that's kind of jar you is just like it's the same reason I like you know David Bowie and all of those kinds of personalities where it's like I'm going to put I'm not going to filter anything I do to try and appease anyone but you're just going to be like me and you're either going to like it or not and I don't care that's one thing I do I do um idolize like my grandma a lot for that same reason because she's like a really strong personality she knows who she is and she doesn't care what other.
people think that that's what you're saying is like that resonates of someone who I
idolize for that reason like that specific reason is like that like I know I know you
come from completely yeah so those are my main ones I'm sure I'm forgetting some
like they're I idolize people on different fronts like for some as being humans
and just being good people or certain artists that are out there whether it be like film
music anything like that you will idolize specific things
Yeah, I've got some of some idols
who are like that, but...
Well, what's yours? Because I just went on for ages.
There's only one idol that I can think of
who, like, throughout my, like, life
from when I was a very young age,
I've constantly idolized, I guess.
And I, I, you know, idolized this person
for, like, every reason.
And that is, you know,
it's a bit of a meme, actually.
It's Ayr and Senna.
Center. Okay.
It is, because it's just, like,
I've always admired his, like,
ferocity and, like, dedication to his work,
you know?
Explain who it was.
is for those who don't know just think he was a former one driver you know in the 80s 90s
you know and he was he's known as one of the best one of the greatest people will argue that
but you know there's there's this great movie that you've seen called center the documentary just
called son it's a fantastic movie so i would recommend to watch it because it's like
incredible i even i liked it and i knew nothing about the guy it's just like i i everything about
him i idolized because it's like his complete like people watching think like oh he's a cock
but it's just like some of the things he did in his racing career is a bit like questionable
but it's like he was 100% dedicated to it like with a hunt a burning passion and i idolize that
because it's just like i should idolize someone who was 100% on their like work and passion
because that's how i like want to get somewhere yeah and you want to see yourself and it's like
i idolize his kindness as a as a human because it's like you know in that time he was like
this the biggest person in Brazil like in his funeral like everyone was fucking sad because he was
like during that period in Brazil it's really kind of difficult and it's just like everyone
admired him because he was that the national face for Brazil and he was you know winning you
know worldwide and everyone knew him and it's just like he cares so much about his community and
he like donated a lot of money helped his community all the time and I idolized that because
when he was so like such like a bit of an asshole on the the
track but he was so because he was so dedicated and then he was taking his winnings and all that and
donating it to his community and that it's like idolize that because you should always be kind
like that and that's you know that's why out of everything I idolize everything about him and it's like
if I'm tired at work or something like that I think I think of kind of a think of him and I'm just
like why should I be tired I should be you know I should be motivated to work more which I do because
it's like in December you know there's so much work to do and I was literally like midday
and it'd be like I'm so tired and it'd be like I'm going to do two hours overtime and I sit
there at like five o'clock and I get so determined and I'd be I'd be cranky because I was just
like this needs to be done I'd do that for like two weeks straight and it's just like I was
thinking of that time of him and they're working and that son I've always idolized like there's
other idols I have but he's the one where it's just like he's the one who's affected my life
because I think of him
and there's
the one quote I live by
is it's a meme
if you do not go for a gap
you're no longer a racing driver
because it's like
to me that is basically
you've got to go 100%
if you want to like achieve what you want
and that's how I live
if I'm depressed or anything like that
I think of that and I motivate myself
to work hard
that makes sense
I thought you were going to go somewhere else
and say someone who's actually like
memeable
but that's a perfectly respectable answer.
Yeah.
I think, you know, your idol should be that.
It should be something you think of
to help influence your life in a positive way.
Yeah.
Miss Vanity Cosme says
personal opinions on astrology, tarot, psychics,
and why or why not?
Also, if you do not believe,
do you think they are harmful slash
should be actively prohibited?
Psychics in particular?
I don't really have an opinion on them, to be honest,
because it's like I don't really know much about them
and it's like, you know, growing up.
You know, like star signs and, you know, psychics,
all these shows and everything where they claim
to be talking to ghosts effectively about, you know.
I've seen people post about it on Twitter
and I like talking about it.
It's just like it's harmless.
It's like if they want to, you know, believe that stuff.
Yeah, the...
The morality can be questioned when
a lot of the
psychics can sort of prey on
sensitive people who maybe have lost a kid recently.
Yeah, it's kind of like snake oil salesmen's in a way.
Yeah, that's what it feels like to me.
Yeah, if you're extorting and manipulating people to get money,
it's a bit like, come on.
But, you know, if you're just wanting an astrology group chat
some people it's like there's no harm in that you know people can do that that's that's cool
i don't mind i personally don't believe it because i'm just very much you know yeah i don't believe
any of it um although i did find it's kind of in the same vein with the the chinese new year
animals um yeah it's kind of saying you know like astrology and all that is based on you know
when you're born and star signs and everything but because of coming from
through panda, loll, lull, I was looking up, oh, what's my Chinese New Year animal?
And mine was a dog.
And I was like, okay, that's pretty fitting.
What's Jim's?
He's an ox.
And it's like, yeah, that's fitting.
And then my dad is also an ox.
And it's like, yeah, they've got a pretty similar kind of personalities and a brawn thing going on.
And what really solidified it for me was,
Argi is
a year of the monkey
and
I've been calling
Argi a little monkey skull
for like weeks
before looking it up
so that was like
I guess
I guess that's my
religion now then
Chinese New Year animals
what is mine
actually
yours would be
it wouldn't be ox
because
yeah you would have been
you would be the previous one
what is it
Chinese
New Year
Chinese New Year
animals or whatever
I'm gonna find that
because I'm interested
No and I was seeing weird patterns
So mine year
The worst
Okay I'm gonna
Bear with
I'm just trying to figure
It find mine out
But yeah there's
I like how it goes to me
Okay
Jim and I have some
Have cousins
who
We can sort of see
A mirroring us
But they're like
10 years younger
Yeah
And the older cousin is a dog as well, and the younger one was...
Okay, mine is...
An ox too.
What's yours?
Year of the Watt.
You're the rat.
It's the first rat I've heard.
So the character traits are smart, wealthy, successful and popular.
Wats are curious and thoughtful and light tidiness, but they can be stubborn and lack courage.
Yeah, mate, that's definitely me.
You know, it's just a really vague description.
the best matches
they do that as well
is the dragon, the monkey in the ox
so Jim's the ox
and you got Argy the monkey
I don't get along with Argy
Jim is like my baby
and I don't know who's the dragon
so
yeah
point being
I don't really believe in any of it
no
the only one I would consider
you know
harmful in any way would be if
these psychic shows or whatever they do
kind of prey on the week
but I don't think that should necessarily be illegal
I don't know I'm not informed enough
on the case to be honest to really
any of us are really
Little shitlet asks
Alex have your thoughts on furries change
since befriending Adam YMS
People keep bringing up this video I made years ago
I hate furries it was called
but this was back in the day where I was making
I hate blank videos on things that I didn't even hate
or knew really anything about
yeah like I did one on Minecraft and I think in the video I say like you said I
actually quite like Minecraft I built this incredible world I love this game yeah so I
didn't actually really say anything mean or horrible about furries in the video I
just said I find it weird and confusing and it kind of is still to me so in that
sense it hasn't changed that much but it doesn't really affect any
I said, I said, I literally said in that video, um, you, you can do whatever you want on the weekend.
As long as it's not hurting anyone, I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
So like, whatever.
If people like that, I like that, I don't.
I'm not going to be going to any furry cons anytime soon, but...
Yeah.
Whatever, dude, I don't care.
So you shouldn't, it's like your view shouldn't change of Adam if, just because he's a furry, like I, I don't see him, because, actually, I know who he is.
years. I don't see him and just be old furry. I'm just like what we like.
You know, if you're going to hate someone just for the things they like, that's your
problem. You can't really, if it's part of what you consider your identity, like, okay,
whatever, okay. A lot of people that like associate, you know, their passion with, you know,
who they are and that type of stuff. You shouldn't go overboard, but like, that's relatively
normal. So I wish people would stop, you know, misquoting the video and all that. And,
it's just such a vague video
that comes to no conclusion anyway
so I don't know why people like
obsess over the title I guess
which is fair enough I suppose
is confusing
Gersmos 7 asks
has any experience or any piece of media
made you feel like you are out
of this world or high
that's
quite a good question actually
because the Matt one
that happened
did he say experiences
he said experiences or any piece of media
okay that that
the thing we've literally just talked about
that is yeah
that's a great example of that
because it made me
question everything the very fabric of space
was crumbling around me
yeah I'm sure
I don't know if there's I don't think of any movies
because I don't really watch them
I see no farce and furious
you can't call people can't complain
about Kingdom Hearts and Fast and Furious is ten times more confusing.
That movie's bad.
What, Furious Six?
We've watched Furious Six, literally before this happened, because we're eating pizza and we're just like, okay.
It's on Netflix.
Fuck it.
Why not?
And we've always, you know, it's well known within movies that Fast and Furious Five is, like, ridiculously dumb and it's stupid.
Six?
No, Fast Five.
People think that Fast Five's the ridiculous one.
Because they drag a vault with a car.
That's ridiculous.
Fast 6.
It's the vault scene on stowboys.
They've gotten more and more ridiculous since.
None of that movie makes sense.
They connect all of the first movies to that movie somehow,
and then someone's supposed to know.
I don't know.
It's ridiculous.
But I love Fires and Furious.
The horror movie Susperia from last year,
that like freaked me out
and made me feel like I was having an out-of-body experience
because it's just so creative
it's just a horror movie
would recommend it
I'm not going to watch it because it would be too much for you for sure
Alex
I watch one horror movie and I'm scarred for life
if I watch that and I might just die
you're scared of this is the end
which one
okay it made me jump at one point
make me out to be a base
it. Okay, in trade asks, car question of the week for James. What do you think about the early
2000s car compared to their late 90s predecessors? Like the 350 Z compared to the 300 ZX or the
RX8 compared to the RX7 FD. Do you think they live up to the hype behind the 90s
cars? In a lot of ways, yeah, because the two cars he's just listed.
really great cars and the two cars are for them are really great cars.
Early 2000s was when cars were, you know, getting more modern but they were still being really good
and like kind of heavy driver's cars and that type of stuff and it's...
I might buy a car from that period
to be continued because it's probably gonna buy it.
So yeah, I think they do live up to it and it's like there's a lot of hype
like around certain cars like skylines of, you know, the one our friend loves,
off anymore
and the earlier ones
I think it's
very specific with Japanese cars
because you know
they've got loads of coupés
and that type of stuff
and it's like
the early 2000s ones
were taking the name
and the legacy
and in a lot of ways
making them better
so yeah
I think they are
they do live up to the earlier cars
I'll take your way for them
but then
everyone would pick the earlier cars
over the later cars
because the earlier cars
are just like
a
Okay
Alex
I hope that answer the question
If I turn definitely 86
You'd be like
Oh shit
Is they great
Yeah
I have to see it
To believe it
No you know
All you have to think
It's pop up pedlamps
Okay that's pretty cool
Yeah
Nothing views pop up a peddance
Wee woo
Wheeoo
Fart Night
111 said
If you had to make a sequel
To a bad DreamWorks movie
Which would it be
And why
Madagascar, obviously
That's the one with like the loosest plot
So you can just do anything you want, basically
Yeah, but you don't want it to be a bad sequel
No, but what difference does it make?
They've already had bad sequels
It doesn't make a difference
It doesn't make a difference
I'm maybe to be good
That's my point, like you have to know
Yeah, so you're saying it's going to be a bad sequel, not a good sequel
And I'm just like saying things
No, the comment, the question was,
if you had to make a sequel to a bad DreamWorks movie...
Of course, Madagascar's bad.
You've literally been telling me for months that it's good.
No, there's a difference between getting loads of enjoyment
and finding something really entertaining
and thinking it's genuinely like a great film and that kind of thing.
You've literally been saying them both for quite some time.
Yeah, because they're intertwined in a way.
I would...
Let me put it this way.
I wouldn't get angry or disagree with someone who said
they can't stand Madagascar 3, right?
Hmm.
So using that as if that was the general opinion,
most people aren't out here defending Madagascar, are they?
I'm probably the only one in the world, let's be real.
So, you know, that would be my choice.
You are probably the only one in the world.
Because you could go crazy with it, so.
It is in the meme atmosphere at the moment.
Madagascar.
Yeah, just pure coincidence.
That's not why I start watching it again.
You know, we started talking about it and suddenly it's a meme.
Wouldn't be the first time, would it?
Yeah, we are ahead of the curve.
Do you have an answer? Have you seen enough?
No.
Shark tale, you've had shark tail? A bit of B movie?
Home? Trolls?
No?
You've got a young nephew?
Surely you've seen some of these?
No, because he's obsessed with Marvel.
Okay.
Even worse for me is that he's obsessed.
Okay, Demo, Iron Man.
Ooh.
Ed Craze asks,
Alex, have you been drawing recently?
I know you draw from time to time,
but you don't really talk about it.
I was wondering if you had any stories
about your drawings.
Um,
I've had the itch and urge
recently to start doing it again.
But I just don't do it
because I'm bad.
I'm bad.
person you're not I'm my idol anymore Alex I'm sorry um I don't draw so I can't
really add anything no yeah I do enjoy it but it can be quite frustrating when you
you don't you know you have stupidly high standards for yourself and then you keep
you know trying to draw something and you think it sucks
that shouldn't matter I've got like all these sketchbooks I want to fill up with just
crap but
Alex is too busy
playing Mass Effect
Andromeda and laughing at the entire time
Yeah I tend to just do other things
Because like creatively I feel fulfilled
Anyway if your YouTube
With yeah
People might not think it's on the same level
But for me the process is
Kind of fulfilling that same need
So I just did a big fart
Sounded like a fireball
Last episode there was like this fucking massive fart I did
that actually got into the episode
which I was quite happy with
when I was editing it
I heard it
it was a bloody
massive fire
I don't have any
stories about my drawings
I just sit down and draw
there's nothing really interesting
about it
do you know what I found
on the group chat
what not group chat
the old Facebook group
yeah
I found this animation you made
really about what
for an hour now
really what was the animation
it was a guy bent over his ass out
and he was just pooping
and then it pooped
and then went back
in when out of his mouth and then pooped and it was
oh no really
if you can find that I'll put that as the intro to this episode
I can I try to save it to send it to you I know
I couldn't save it so you can have to screen record it
and then somehow get on but I saw it and I just started
screen laughing because I know if you saw it you do the same so I just
found it so funny I also found the
fuck the killer quop bit
the killer crock and I had I think it was gym and we had
the hit hit a clock yeah yeah yeah I found that a Batman video I'll show you since
there's so much real bro that's awesome yeah so people might see it the only
episode you're like oh that's what I mean loads of stuff like that once upon
time the weird I posted actually on the pictures I found on Instagram yeah
Jim was just like whoa mm-hmm I don't know my subpoena
what was that um this this question said without context Alex
say anything or without saying anything make a noise and see how they react
so I react like a normal human being yeah you didn't really do I could have been
weirder but it wouldn't be the first time you've been weird let's be will
what is that
Pop Tropica
Escaname asks
What does Jamie do outside the cast
Like he really be the only member
That don't got something
Question mark
What do you mean don't got something?
I don't know what that means
What do you mean don't got something
What does that mean?
I'm gonna take that as if like
He doesn't have a girlfriend
No but it's like it's not that we talk about girls very often
We specifically don't
I know
because he's not the only one who doesn't
got something
I think it meant more as like
a thing
oh like a passion
like a burning desire
but Jim does have his thing
he's got his reload animations
he can't call that a passion man
he never does anything about it
I can still appreciate
so you've got your
we can't say you've got your YouTube
because that's your job
got my YouTube got me Lego
actually to be fair
you've got your Lego which
you know you do that's your passion
I've got my
my car
and you know my
dream
Ruben's got his
What does Jim have
I know
Mumma
I know what Jim has
What
What does he got tell me
We need him here to answer it really
Yeah because I don't know what he's got
he's got his really obscure way of messaging us
that's kind of it
he's got his humour
yeah
right we should be able to fit one more in
no Alex
it's an Alex ex-James which means you have to go
extra hard
okay you can keep going I don't mind
Alex you know what I've never
I've never told you this
okay what
I really like talking
yeah
sometimes I like
I sit on this cast and I just like
talking about random stuff
and I like having it like
I'm sorry we created it
now
like now we're sitting here
risky
we're just talking about
you know crap
and you know
just random things
and I love that
mm-hmm
and now I love it
I love you Alex
yeah I love you too bro
beer
is that what whiskey
you need to have whiskey
for any genuine feelings to come out
like all the alcoholic drinks
like I know I've got to
Cheers, Barry.
Cheers, boy.
You know, I've gone to the pub and it's all like so, it's like chaotic, you know, there's noise.
And it's like, when you've got whiskey and you're just talking, it's like the best times.
It's when you get down to the business.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, I appreciate everyone.
I appreciate you.
Appreciate the jailings.
Appreciate James.
I just, I love, I love talking on this cast.
It's great.
Yeah.
And it's crazy because it's taken so long for, like, me to actually, like, fully get into doing jail and, like.
The fans love it, man, so...
Actually, enjoying just talking about one of stuff
and having the go to talk about crazy topics and hard topics.
It's quite freeing in a way.
It's like a time capsule as well.
Back to the earlier question, it's like...
I should we pause this and then come back in a sec?
The camera's just about to go out.
You're going back to what the jar fans said earlier about
if you were teleported back to the earlier episode.
It's like, we're so different and it's taken so long for me
to actually, like, have a voice.
Because to be honest, early episodes,
I didn't really have a voice.
I was kind of just a person there for no reason
to just to fuck it up.
But now it's like,
we're all fully into it.
We all can,
we all have a voice and that's just crazy.
I heard somewhere that if you have a podcast,
it takes about 100 episodes
for you to maybe start getting good at it.
And we're only on 156.
It's because it's like unconsciously
you have to just get so natural at doing it.
It's like now we just talk.
you know there's nothing to us now no yeah but back in the early days it was just like you're so
you're actively thinking about the camera being there like the way you should talk the way you should
like yeah form yourself but now it's like we're just us on the cast you know yeah well the thing
that always was the struggle to begin with was kind of creating or thinking of something that
would spark like a conversation there isn't just like one minute or less of discussion then
it's like silence yeah and we had
we really struggled with that
that's why that's why I was always like doing dumb shit
because it was like
do something la random so the other
so the cast has something to react to it's why the cast was just chaos
because we just we didn't really know how to talk
and that's why you know we had an episode where we were discussing
like a coi it's like yeah it's dumb but now it's like
we routinely get into such a discussion it's like time flies
because we're just like actually just getting into like a really good topic
and it's yeah I'm I'm glad there's
been like an evolution you know and like we started the worst possible way of no chairs
a mic one mic and it's like we've progressed with the setup we've like actually yeah like
having this set up and being back then would be a waste of the setup yeah exactly we were
effectively toddlers crawling around on the floor but now it's like we've got this nice setup
we've got proper like mics it's comfortable yeah so then that goes of how we actually
present ourselves and actually do these podcasts now yeah
it's such a natural way and it's just like you can't rush into it you have you have to go
without period because that's just how long it takes well yeah and it wasn't like a natural
thing for me to start doing because um whenever i've done something involving a mic have always
been reading a script yeah it's a totally different beast and you you've come from that to being
this like complete free flow like none of what we say or we talk about is like planned we don't
think about what we're saying.
No, we have very vague, like, ideas for topics.
But I think that's such a, like, a thing we have, a very specific thing we have,
because you've looked at other podcasts, it's so much more structured to ours, isn't.
I mean, that's our, like, little point is that it can go anywhere at any time.
Well, yeah, depending on the cast and what's happened the last week,
like, it can just be a chaotic episode.
Like, last week, cast was suddenly, like, an instant hard topic.
Mm-hmm. And I could...
But then 30 minutes later, it was about my reviews that were, like, absurd.
It's just ridiculous.
And that's, that's such a unique, thing.
that a lot of podcasts don't have
because there's so many podcasts about games
and it's all like
and I've played this.
Well, because most of it,
the advantage we have is we have the history.
All four of us have known each other for so long.
Yeah, and that's the thing about a podcast.
It's just like sometimes it's difficult
to fully gauge with the people
when they're like, they're kind of new to each other.
Oh, you know, we're not.
Yeah, yeah.
I've known you since I was like a baby, basically.
So it's like, we have that and that's crazy.
We have quite a good topic here.
that kind of relates to this wanking thing
that's just our new thing that we
I guess we are now. I see everything turns into a meme
with us. Edgy Maple Tree asks
opinions on
are slash no fat
or the idea of no fat.
Particularly when certain people
go to extremes. Do you think
that like pornography addiction
complete denial of sexual pleasure can be as
damaging? This is interesting
because when I was looking for the comments
this was mentioned when people
saying like yeah I saw a couple about it and you do hear about it like there's this
there's this community of no fappers they go around spreading the words it's kind of
like a religion that's what I liken it to it's like a region of you know if you don't
fact you're gonna become a god and you're not you're gonna be like this super
masculine guy and it's just like yeah okay that's that's that's crazy like you know
I've gone on the no fat like you know redits and the no porn reddits and it's just
like you gotta take things that have said with a pinch of salt yeah the point we
made like I made I might have failed making it was just like you know consuming too much
pornography is bad because you can get addicted and that can have physical effects but
much like anything to the extreme yeah and then it's just like then it's like the other
extreme of you know don't have any sexual pleasure at all it's like that is kind of as bad
because then you're oppressing you know what humans are sexual beings
men men love the titty yeah men love titty men love ass if they're gay they love dick
you know that that's natural so like repressing that is kind of really unhealthy for you i say
it's like you know sometimes you just gotta do that and it's healthy to you know you know
i might have said you know shouldn't consume porn but if you like watch your porn video and you
fap you know and that's it that's not it's not ruining your life no but if you if you have to jerk off
five times a day and you're spending like three hours a day jerking the porn then that's a
Maybe that might be an issue.
Like having a healthy balance between it is 100% healthy and you shouldn't, like, deny that.
You shouldn't just deny all sexual, like, desires you have.
So, yeah.
Like, if you watched a video last week and, you know, you thought about it, just don't, like, go completely no-fap.
Because that can be quite, you know, damaging.
You know, yourself sexually.
It might sound like a cop-out, but it's the, all-a-law.
about the balance with most things.
You should always have a perfect balance.
And just being able to step back and be objective and, you know, assess.
I'm not, I'm watching too much.
I should have a break for three weeks and then just get back into it
and then just have, be healthy, basically.
Yeah, try your best, whatever, you know.
You should always just, you know, go cold turkey to break yourself from it
and then you can just consume, you know, a video and, you know,
for you, you know, and be healthy.
That's, that's kind of it.
Do you know anything about Ariana Grande?
Yes.
I know...
I will ask this question then, because I cannot add anything to this.
But Ali B underscore A asks question for James.
I don't know why I'm not included. Maybe he just knows I don't know anything about Ariana Grande.
Uh, I know a bit of him. She recently got a title.
Well, the question was, what do you think of the new Ariana Grande album?
You heard it?
have I heard it
I've listened to a few things on it
to be
there's some things musically which
you're a very music-oriented person
you know you like music
I know what I like
yeah
I'm kind of everywhere
in terms of music
I listen to everything
I've listened to like some of her album
I listen to
a lot of random stuff
there's a few songs I like
but it's just like
you know if that's what people are they like
I like songs not really albums
but I just know that she got a tattoo in Japanese
and as expected it didn't mean what she thought it meant
what did it mean
she got it so it meant like seven wings
for the album name I believe
but actually meant like camping grill
so it's not even discreet it's literally on her hand
and it's just like that's such a wee-a-be thing to do
to think getting a Japanese word but not actually understanding the language
and then she deleted the post of Vinawana
because everyone was laughing at her.
Oh no.
But we all make done mistakes, so.
It's like, what's her face? Kim Kardashian and her huge ass.
And now, because her ass is so huge, when she uploads pictures of it, she's actually, like, photoshopping it to look smaller.
It's like this sick cycle of, like, trying to please these people.
It's, that's like a completely different, like, topic, though, is that kind of, you know, stuff.
No, honestly, there is something, too. This, this philosophy I live by,
where it's, you just want what you can never have.
Until you have it.
And then it becomes something new.
You know, you get a huge ass like you've always wanted,
but then people make fun of you for it.
So then now the new thing is now I don't want a huge ass anymore.
It's just never ending that kind of grass is always greener.
Way of thinking.
And I mean, it doesn't...
I try my best to live by it, but still fucking hot.
Mr Duang man
asks
What do you guys think is the best way to tell a story in a video game
Is it linear and cinematic like naughty dogs games
Or something more unconventional like old RPGs or Xcom
I'm just going to ignore a lot of gamers
Not how Dark Souls does it
Dark Souls has no story
It's completely pointless
And people shouldn't idolize it because it's terrible
Um
Well that's definitely going to annoy some people
and I wouldn't agree.
I don't know how they still tell stories.
It's a creative way to do it.
I prefer...
I'd prefer that way of doing it
over having like these really bad
poorly produced cutscenes like Amdromeda.
I'll take back what I said.
Because at the core,
games can get by without a story
and just have really solid mechanics.
And as long as the art direction
and the mystique is there,
then you can kind of research.
thing I said, I'm sorry.
I think, I don't know, I'm going to completely change this.
It should, there should, the story, it doesn't matter about the story of how it's delivered.
If it's done well, it's fine.
If everything up to, is, you know, a good quality, then it doesn't matter how they do it.
If they do it through writing on a whiteboard and Duke Nukum forever or whatever,
but it's actually good, then it doesn't matter.
As long as it's good, that's what I say.
Yeah, but with that comes that.
often
limitations arise with
the
design of the game
whereas I've
gone on about these
looter shooters like Destiny
and I'm making a video on Anthem now
and they have these same issues
where they're trying to do things they've always
done in the past but the design of the
of their game holds it back massively
whereas if it was like
the old formats
then the same issues wouldn't be there because
of it so and I've been
you mentioned it earlier but I've been playing
Andromeda Mass Effect Andromeda
You did because I had to watch it today
And you're turning to a different human being
Because you're consumed by that stuff
It's fascinating
I love stuff like that
Where it's just so
It's all gone wrong
Whereas like Mass Effect 2 is the same process
But it's all come together at the end
Whereas Andromeda is the total opposite
Yeah
Where everything's just a bit off
And it's a bit wrong
Even though the set up's quite similar
but honestly
a more
if I have to take a bet on
whether I think
the new destiny expansion
is going to have a better story
than the Last of Us 2 is going to have
I'm going to put my bet on the Last of Us 2
so some kind of linearity
is kind of needed I think for
if you're
aping Hollywood specifically
with like cut scenes all the time that are
structured like
TV or movies or cinema or you know
I think it's just like the big issue of games now is they're like
trying to make games do something when the design allows that not to happen
like anthem it's like it's like building a plane to drive on a motorway
it's not going to work yeah no that's totally what anthem is like
and destiny's the same all of those types of games are the same because they're not
designed to have what they have you know a story or anything they're designed for
reason and that's yeah I'm still not convinced that the
co-op games
can have
like as in-depth stories
because through cut scenes you're on
in like party chat talking to people
you're just not paying attention in the same way
I think no like
of all the looters shooter games it's like you know
you've got the destiny and from where it's all like
loot base but then you think
board lands has done this
incredibly well and it had the cutscenes
and it had a loose story
and it had it was talking about like no one's
putting
Borderlands 2 in the same thread as Portal 2 in terms of that kind of thing.
Of course not, but out of all the looter shooter games, it's more looter than all of these games.
It's more drops than all these games, and it has everything else better,
so I don't understand why they've all failed where Borderlands 2 was incredibly good.
And that game's aged terribly.
People like Destiny now there, so more powerful.
They have sorted out their gameplay loop a lot, to be fair.
Yeah, but Borderlands still had that.
Yogs Pog asks,
What was the worst experience for you guys on YouTube,
be it the IHE copyright drama or dubstep park or two?
Follow-up question, what's the worst video you've ever seen on YouTube?
The worst video is that like superhero, like movie video,
like animated thing, rather than fighting each other.
I can't remember what it's called.
But that's the worst video on YouTube.
To be honest, I don't remember what the worst is.
I have plenty of worst moments on YouTube.
I don't remember it because it's just like I kind of forget
when things are really bad
Of course having IHE deleted wasn't great
That was a bit of a
The worst thing that's happened to us is
The Minecraft video, we're never going to release
Like that hurts me and I wasn't even, isn't it?
Which one? The Minecraft Machinima
Though that we never finished
Okay, no, the other one, the one you don't want to release
That's the worst thing that's ever happened to us
because that made us think if that machinima was finished it might have actually been worse
than okay no it was any other one i i spent an entire night
trying making that and having a severe headache and it never nothing came from it but we
would have been rich from it so there's like a different timeline where we became like
huge Minecraft youtube that would have happened but no we chose the respectable
Hey, we're respectable.
Hmm, any other good ones here?
Vaping furry, he asks,
I've been with the Yolk since episode one,
but for the longest time I've been wondering why all of you call Jamie, Jim.
That's a good question because,
traditionally, Jim is a nickname for James.
Like, I get called Jim by other people.
Like, my old boss used to call me Jim.
My dad calls me Jim.
Really?
I've always been called Jim, but then when I'm here, Jim is Jim.
It doesn't make sense by the laws of names.
I don't understand why he's called Jim.
He's just always been Jim.
That's, I don't get though.
Maybe my dad started it, he's normally the one that does that.
You never shortened Jamie to be Jim.
What is a short name for Jamie then?
Because...
There isn't one, I don't think.
I've never heard anyone call a Jamie a Jim.
You don't think Jim Oliver.
You think Jamie or?
hmm I don't get it I've cut I I asked myself and I'm like no these are just the jar wools he's Jim
and I don't think about it it's just that's just what he is yeah he's Jim you know
I'm Jordan it's yeah Jim is normally short for James or Jimmy yeah
There's no rhyme or reason. It's just what it is and stuck.
Yeah. It's just how it is. It's how things be.
So many porn questions.
Well, like what? Is it the really expected ones?
Or is it like actual good questions?
I don't know if we can add anything to this, but J4 your boy says adding to the porn thing.
What about some furries who can't get off, get it off to a regular person?
it needs to be an anthropomorphic animal
or someone who's so horrifically ugly
that it's almost impossible
for another person to have sex with them
should they jack off to porn?
We never said you shouldn't
it's like you know it's down to you
consume a lot of it
I think the other question
it's more focused on like
when things become like fetish
is like when you can't
do you know what do you remember
when you used to do your live streams
this question actually
someone asked this question on the live stream
they were asking like
about porn
and we answered it
and it was like
we were talking about
the difference between like a fetish
and a kink
and you brought up the definition
was like fetish is when you can't like
have any sexual values
or if like your fetish isn't involved
so if people can't
you know fathed if
you know and then from promorphic animals
then that's like a fetish
that's like just
their thing, I guess.
You know, that's...
I wouldn't say that's an issue.
It's a hard question, really.
I don't really...
Yeah, I mean, I don't see it as being, like...
It doesn't matter what your favourite category is.
Your fetish or king.
At the end of the day, it's still the same thing
for everyone, pretty much,
as long as it's not, like, ridiculously
hardcore stuff or whatever.
Yeah, I don't really have anything to say about that one.
Yeah, it's a weird one.
Can I just be honest?
I pulled myself a huge-ass glass
and I didn't even finish it
and you finished
I don't know why I gave myself a huge glass
You did have a bit more than me
Well it was almost half full
And if people can see this glass
It's quite a big glass
And for that amount of risky
And it's like
50% or something
It's like just an insane amount of alcohol
And as a not alcoholic
Like
I'm gonna
You know I shouldn't be drinking
this much but
it's the James and Alex
Carson they did this
house must do a couple more
Akpan Studios
Alex you might have to drive me home
do you guys consider yourselves
the red letter media of podcasts on YouTube
like how you're the
less popular but objectively
the best at it
much like RLM content
creators watch you a lot
which is originally why I thought of the comparison
I think only you can answer that one.
No?
I mean,
you don't control who watches your videos particularly.
It just kind of...
If you've done something long enough,
you kind of settle into a certain place
where it's like, okay, this is what we are.
It's to be okay with it.
It's the good thing is we don't try to not be anything else.
like weird job we
our weird stuff is
it's jar
and we're not going to
pretend to be mind
we're consistent
we do
we're always there
every week
our
our unique
take on it
is um
is consistent in how
unreliable it is
in a sense
like you never know
what you're going to get
but at the same time
you do know what you're going to get
it's how you've described me
actually
you've literally described me the same way
is this
I'm at
I'm like you expect me, but in the same time I'm 100% not expect, you don't, you don't expect like me.
That's Jha.
Like, Jarre is just like that.
Yeah.
So like people might tune in and it's just like one moment they're just like, oh, they're going to talk about Marvel and it's like oh porn porn addiction. Oh fuck.
Oh mental health. And it's just like they're talking about diarrhea. Like having diet chili diarrhea. It's like
Yeah, I didn't sit around thinking like, yeah, we're the this of this. We're just, well, are we.
yeah we don't if you think about it too much you become not yourself
but one thing that drives me nuts with like
YouTubers specifically is how
They are fucking like totally obsessed with statistics
Numbers it's all about fucking numbers
It's all about metadata and I cannot stand it
I used to be quite obsessed with it a few years ago
And it's like there's no satisfying end to it
No because it just becomes
never enough. You'll never be satisfied
with these fucking meaningless
numbers. If that's all you focus
on, you're never going to be fucking happy, so
I tend to just not
look at it. It's like how I sometimes do with money
I'm like, I've never satisfied of it.
And then you're just like, James, stop.
If you constantly compare yourself, you're not
going to be happy, and then I'm just like, okay, and I'm
happy.
Yeah. You can't obsess over something
like that, because it's just not going to...
It's too easy, and then people start
comparing themselves,
with other people of a similar level and they like think oh they're doing way better now
or they're doing way worse yes good i'm doing better them now and that kind of thing and it's
just nothing good comes from it honestly because you just end up kind of destroying yourself
and your personality yeah because you you start associate your personality becomes these
numbers so if say you started doing badly then that's going to really hurt your ego that's
gonna hurt you whereas like if if you treat it as what it is then you know there's you stay true to
yourself yeah yeah it's too fake anyway a lot of it like all these i find just a lot of
youtubeers fake and i find it very hard to fake as fuck man like to actually relate to them on most
you know nice cases mm-hmm like a lot of the YouTubers I watch aren't fake like there's my
one of my favorite YouTubers is a car YouTube from Japan he's not Japanese but he's you know
lives in Japan he doesn't really upload
But then when he's uploads, it's still him.
It's like, he doesn't care about his viewers all that.
He's just, like, making the content he likes.
And it's just like, I relate to that because it's like an actual human.
Yeah, it's obvious.
Then you see, like, people like Ninja who, like, you know, become these really cocky, like, you know, tritch people.
It's like, okay, I don't want, I don't care.
Yeah.
Boom, boom.
Okay, let's do, let's do, just, like, one more.
Just do one more.
Because, you know, it's getting late.
Yeah, it's nearly 11pm.
We go hard, that's what I say.
You know, me, you go in, man.
Circus Monkey asks,
what are some previous obsessions slash phases
you've been through before
that you maybe haven't mentioned?
We'll end on this.
You're going to have to give me wild kids,
my whiskey brain is, like, struggling.
Nah.
Phases.
I'm a very
phasy type person.
I've kind of been the same, though.
Whether it be food, like, clothing, movies, like anything like that.
Yeah, you're going for your Maldigascar skates phase at the moment.
Yeah, things like that.
Teamworks.
I even go through phases of calling argue different words.
Like it was...
Bebo, buy me, mumime, and...
Every week it's a new argy name.
Dibby and currently he's monkey.
I call him monkey.
Actually, you know, there's a phase that...
I'm going to claim
I'm going to straight
claim this
I went for Metal Gear Solid 3s
when we were still in school
I had a PS3
and I was like I'm going to get all the remasters
I pretty much bought it
I didn't really play them
and I talked about it other times to Jim
and then guess what Jim did
he bought Metal Gear Solid
it was my fault that got them into Metal Gear
no it was me because I talked about
like I bought Jim
that you know that Metal Gear
spin-off thing that came out before
five. Why is in Revengeance?
No, no, no. Um...
Round zero.
Grand zeroes, yeah.
No, but that's... No, no, no, no.
Because before that, I was talking to him all the time about Metal Gear Solid.
So it would have been implanted into his mind by me.
You then probably heard him talking about it, got him that.
Then he got all the remasters.
Then I got him...
I got Metal Gear Solid Five.
So it started with me and you, basically.
So this franchise that Jim...
would we even love is just me and Alex basically
that's what we did
but yeah I went through that phase
hardcore and I think that's
just something you do when you're young you're very much
like you just become really obsessed
at something and you really want to like consume all of it
I went for an ace combat phase
watched all of the movies on like YouTube
of all the cut scenes and was just like
going on the wikis all the time
didn't play any of them and then the new one came out
and I play that and I was like yes
yeah I go in hard on like
communities of things normally it's like
around a video game like
Halo I'm like right sub to every
Halo YouTuber is how
I've like wound up
on like Act Man's podcast and
speaking to him and
late night gaming and that whole like
YouTube crowd of Halo YouTubers
You're a face person I think
Not to my discredit you
No massively and then it was like right
Lego time now let's just get on all the Lego channels
And that fate doesn't end it though
Because you've actually you've loved Lego forever
So that's just you
but I sort of go in and out
currently my latest YouTube
obsession is
Smash Bros videos
I've been watching
the pro player zero
quite a lot
because he uploads basically every day
like and he's just so good at smash
I find it fascinating to watch
because
that game's like infinitely watchable to me
and the same thing goes with
food that I remember being obsessed
with celery at one point
I was obsessed with like soup
for a while
uh yeah flumps
all sorts of things like that
like crispy squares
different cereals
yeah man
domino's nachos
domino's cookies
but yeah for me it has to be
I do the opposite
of the advice we keep saying
where it's like
everything in moderation
and I just go fucking in
to the point where I never want to eat
celery ever a fucking again
or you know
I never want to see a video on
mendicant bias
over a fucking again
that kind of
of yeah but I always know when that happens though because one moment you'll be
talk about I'm saying and it's just like I never talk about it again it's just like
you've done same with all their memes and shit too like mama I'm still on
mama like I was playing Celeste and you can name your character and I named them
mama you still haven't gone over your corgi phase yet that's not a phase I see
to stay okay then that's that's an issue I've got an issue of that Alex I might have
to not be friends of you anymore
it goes against what you've seen
damn
I don't
I go through phases everyone does
sometimes I'm just like I've got to listen
to nine inch nails every day
and I'm like
I'm not listening to it anymore
and I'm out of later I'm like
I'm gonna listen to it
no the phases I go in and out from
it's sleep without ASMR
two months later
sleep with ASMR all the time
that's it
That's my phases.
Yes, weird, but...
Wow.
That's my thing.
Now we go.
We did a big chunk today.
We do.
You know, that's the glory of the Alex X. James.
Yeah.
Thanks for all the good questions, everybody.
Thanks for tuning in.
And supporting the show in anywhere you can.
We'll make videos, you know.
We've got some stuff in the lines.
I have some good ideas for vids, but I can't do I-G-and-J-J-and-J-all, not all of it at the same time.
I know, we've actually got a video that's done,
that we made ages ago that we're going to upload at some point.
But we should let that age.
Yeah, the smash video. Yeah, the smash video.
We've got that.
Yeah, still haven't edited it.
But that takes the time to edit and stuff, you know.
Maybe when Jim gets back, you can learn to edit or something.
We'll just throw it out of him.
Just don't say anything.
Be like, Jim, do it.
And Jim will be like, fuck off.
Fine.
Yeah, so thanks for watching everybody.
We'll catch you on next time.
I hope you have a good next week.
you know everything goes well so yeah we'll catch you next time bye bye bye
