JAR Media Posdact - A Nutty Crazy Story - JARCAST Episode 156

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good afternoon, morning, evening or night. Mingers and gentlemen of the jury, this is the JARCast with your host, Alex, and joined by James over there. We are the best duo. And we're back again. The best jar duo. Yeah, we go hard. This is episode 156. Before we move on, I'd like to thank the patrons for the...
Starting point is 00:00:30 They're a lovely support of the show that makes it possible on iTunes and Spotify and all that. So this is for you guys. Yeah, and today we're joined by a 10-year Abelor. 10-year Abelor whiskey? Yeah. Got into whiskey recently. You have, and it was a surprise to me, because, you know, from Christmas I got loads of whiskeys. And, you know, I always take them around for us all to try, you know, give opinions.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And then over last week, you're like, I've been getting a taste of whiskey. so we met up on the Wednesday for some shit reason we watched a really terrible movie no reason we'll get into probably in a sec yeah and uh you were gonna go to Tesco's look at whiskey anyway so I was just like you know
Starting point is 00:01:10 let's just meet up and watch something so I joined you down there and we got a it's a 12 year Glen footage it was just good whiskey so we just you know sat back had a few whiskeys
Starting point is 00:01:23 so maybe one day one day the JAR fans might get a a whiskey video. Just talking about whiskeys. Yeah? Because riskeys, out of all the alcohol, it's like, there's so many
Starting point is 00:01:35 fucking layers to whiskey. Like, you can see, there's layers to, like, every, like, alcoholic drink, but with risky, it's like, there's the palate and, you know, there's all that, and it's, like, there's so much to talk about. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:51 So, something quite big happened in the last, week for us something huge to the point of when we got told we were fucking speechless actually like playing apex legends in complete silence because we were so like yeah it just happened to be i've recently started playing apex it was it was it was a bruh moment a literal fucking moment so a few times on this podcast we've mentioned about a friend of us a friend a very a friend a friend known since our childhood yeah so
Starting point is 00:02:27 long. 10 plus years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I streamed with him and Jal fans did watch it. I fucking streamed with him. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah. We found out something about our friend that was, that came out of nowhere. Literally, no messages from him for like weeks. Yeah. And then he said, we had a group chat with him and he hadn't been active for a while. Yeah. And right as we dropped down into an apex map, we just sat there in Discord about We're getting our gaming on.
Starting point is 00:02:59 We were just being edgy and just kids and, you know. And I happened to see a notification pop up from the group chats and it was from him. So it was like, oh guys, he's finally said something. No, but before that even happened, I was downstairs like cooking my lunch the next day. And I saw him like on like WhatsApp like something he's typing. So I was like, oh, he's typing, he must be back. And then, you know, you started typing so it didn't show any more. But that whole time he was writing this, this paragraph, this huge,
Starting point is 00:03:27 text but what happened was he wrote this huge this huge like multiple paragraph thing this huge fucking text like a letter almost
Starting point is 00:03:41 directed to us saying how like revealing that he was actually a a Christian yeah which of course isn't a big deal at first but is that the information that started trickling out around that
Starting point is 00:03:57 I'd always suspected he may have been religious in some form but yeah I always kind of guessed that but obviously you know we don't care if like if you know if I come up being like Jewish or something it's just like okay you know we don't care yeah um but then of course it became a question of what so we have to reel it back even more because this friend of ours he he vanished around 2012 basically as soon as we finished school so it was like 2012 2013 you know he was going to like college um you were to see already out of school we were leaving i was going to college as well jim and we were staying in school i think it's my last year of sick form yeah um he then he went off to college and he literally disappeared he went we didn't see or hear
Starting point is 00:04:43 from the guy he deleted his facebook he didn't contact any of us the only encounter was when i saw him in a in a tesco yeah i happened to see him in a tesco and we just talked from it that's it that's the only contact we had until like, what was it two years ago? 2017. Then he suddenly, I was out of the country at the time, he suddenly was just back. He just started messaging
Starting point is 00:05:06 me and Rubin. And it gradually turned into we started talking to him again. We started hanging out with him. He met us, he came here, we met for meals and stuff. I mean, this went on for a couple years, pretty much. Seeing him quite regularly talking to him
Starting point is 00:05:22 regularly. It's happened. Yeah, he would play games with us, you know, Rainbow 6, combat he was a part of the gang and in these two years that he'd been back in contact never once mentioning anything no nothing to do with religion or God or anything like that he was just the normal person we knew from when we were and it was honestly never relevant really he was just he was the map the friend that he was the same person to all of us anyway yeah but then yeah we were sat there fast water now we were sat there playing apex get this message saying sorry guys but
Starting point is 00:05:56 I can't be a part of this group anymore because it goes against his religious like his religious views and he's not he can't he can't get down with the things we talk about in the group chat and we're we of course we joke about we and anything we joke about religion we joke about sex we joke about anything is that it's that thing where we literally all just start joking and just say the most disgusting just stupid shit because that's what you're doing group chats you just yeah it's just bullshit it's shit posting it's all group There are plenty of screenshots on all of our different Twitters of just the horrible stuff that goes down on there, but... We've been literally posted.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Posted a fucking tweet literally moments before it happened. Yeah. Just like this, the most fucking stupid shit. And it was just like, fuck. But yeah, it wasn't really the shock that he was religious, exactly, but it was more the fact he'd kept it a secret and the fact that suddenly it was an issue. Whereas over the last two years, He was in on all the, like, banter and all the fun and times. He makes dumb jokes, he play games.
Starting point is 00:07:00 He specifically said in this big paragraph how he feels kind of bad about playing video games with us and stuff, because he, especially, this guy he loves, we loved Halo. He was the biggest fucking Halo fan in the world. He's partially responsible for why we will always talk about Haley, and we are so obsessed with it. Yeah. And of course, the theme of Halo is about blind faith and why that may be bad. So, of course, he has to write Halo off with his slant of Christianity that he follows. And he can't. He says he can't play any violent video game anymore and that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So it's like, right, that's off the table then. And then, so then it became right. Okay. So we should probably ask some questions now, because he just, left the group chat. As soon as he sent it he left, he left the Discord groups that we have that we used to play games, the WhatsApp groups, he was gone. She activated his
Starting point is 00:08:04 Twitter, yeah. He was completely gone. Then, so Ruben and I started messaging him the next day. You were trying to find out some more deeps. You were just trying to see how... Yeah, we had to work backwards to try and figure out, okay, gosh, so let's try and
Starting point is 00:08:20 figure out what you do believe. And fast forwarding a little bit, We eventually figured out he's a fundamentalist creationist. So he has a literal interpretation of the Bible. He believes the world was created in 7,000. Seven days. Years. Eight days.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah, and all this. A literal interpretation of it. Which then led to us being like, oh, how do you feel about, you know, gay people? Yeah. And then it gets a bit yikesy because, you know, Bible. don't really like... You don't really like, you know... If you're interpreting it literally,
Starting point is 00:08:59 um, that's a negative, you know? It is. So, so it just got to this point where it's like, Jesus, man. It's like...
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's just the fact that he's had this all, like, secret and it's like, it makes you question, like, what was real, like, all the times we've had with him, if that was, like, actual genuine because he made it out as if, like, being friends with us
Starting point is 00:09:22 and talking to us about stuff was like, sinful he was his whole perspective was that I've been losing my faith recently hence why I've been talking to you guys again and got back talking to you guys yeah but that whole time he always seemed like he was loving it yeah he would just he would go fucking hard in just doing all of this the dumb shit we do like if if you know a lot of times he was the instigator too yeah he'd be like you're playing games just fucking play games just sit up till fucking midnight yeah let's play
Starting point is 00:09:53 some halo. I'm off of work. James just fucking play games and we sat there and played games to like four in the fucking afternoon from 9 o'clock just going hard and when we mean playing games it was like playing Rainbow 6 and purposely fucking our team because that's all we did we were fucking sinful cunts in
Starting point is 00:10:09 games and it's like what the fuck? Yeah the it genuinely bugged, I know it bugged you as well in the same way. That's why we met up on the Wednesday. Yeah because it was quite a striking bit of news to us
Starting point is 00:10:23 finding out you don't actually really know someone you have known for so long. And it did explain some things about his strange coming and going and all that kind of stuff. But it was quite a strange experience because that first message he left explaining all of it
Starting point is 00:10:43 read like a copy past a meme. Like it really was quite extreme. It was and we actually reverse searched it to find if it was like copy and pasted up some. we were so baffled it just didn't seem possible I didn't believe he wrote it
Starting point is 00:10:59 I was like this can't be him this wasn't the person I was playing games with like three weeks that's not what he'd do and ever since him sending that message
Starting point is 00:11:08 whenever we've messaged him he's just a different person now it's like you're speaking to a different person whereas before it was really casual nonchalant the language he used was different the way he texted was different
Starting point is 00:11:20 now it's all very formal and the language is different. It's like the way we talk in group chats is so stupid, like the names we have for each other, like yours and a cage. It's like there's no sense in what we say, and that's the way we talk. But then he went from that, being in that group to just talking like a machine.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like he's reading a script, and it was just like... Yeah. I do want to... It felt alien. Like we're talking to like someone from a spaceship. Yeah, and every time you were trying to find out more information or asking questions, about it. There was always
Starting point is 00:11:55 sort of some deflection going on. You never quite got the true story or the details you were actually after. It's kind of like a politician. You know, you'd ask them a question. They'd answer it by not actually answering it. They say a lot but at the same time they say very little. Yeah. Yeah. So it just
Starting point is 00:12:11 kept going round and round in circles. Ruben got quite annoyed. Ruben did and it's like having experienced something like it's like when you find out something major like that you doubt everything you've experienced. It changes how you see things. to the point where you're very confused and we were
Starting point is 00:12:25 because we met up on Wednesday just to talk about it because we were both just like okay what the fuck so that's why we watched a really crap movie it's just like something just take your mind
Starting point is 00:12:34 off of you know what it is well yeah you have like a pit in your stomach yeah because it doesn't feel real you feel because it did just come out out of left field totally
Starting point is 00:12:44 literally before that actually happened I was downstairs cooking my lunch and you were like I wish James would get it was gay so I can rape him. Like, that's the shit we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Like, horrendous stuff we always talk about. And then I replied with, you don't have to be gay to rape me, Alex. It's just like, stupid stuff. And to preface, a lot of the time, our friend would join in on that kind of stupid banter. It's like, that's how we organise talking about, like, playing games together.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Is this, like, some weird situation? And then it's like, that's us. That's how most people, like, are. I tried to ask him, like, I'm sorry if we offended you based on, beliefs but do you have any examples as to what actually upset you yeah but he said um that it wasn't anything specific but it was more that you know he had to be more in tune with god or something it was all that kind of thing and it's difficult because you don't want to sound like oh
Starting point is 00:13:43 he's come out as being religious so we instantly dislike him but it was more the fact that now he just seems like a different person entirely it's not even about the religion it's So when we talk to him, he doesn't sound, like, he's not the person we knew. That's, that's it. Yeah. It's hard to have a connection, and that person doesn't seem like the person you've known for, like, 10 years. That's, that's the problem. I couldn't believe it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I'm speechless, and it's still, like, it's still weird to get my mind over now. It's just, like, you know, that person I knew for so long, like, isn't there. And of all, of the group that we have that he was a part of, it's like, he's the only one who was, like, the car guy. So like we'd go Like we'd go to like Swindon or whatever And we'd the whole way Just talking about cars Talking about engines talking about that stuff
Starting point is 00:14:28 And you'd be like What the fuck are they talking about But I love that Yeah That was like the thing we had And now it's like I don't have that He was a great guy to have around
Starting point is 00:14:36 And talk to and everything He was he's fun He was a fun guy Like he was You know You said like how Jamie Like triggers me And then I trigger you
Starting point is 00:14:44 And it's like that He was like He was one of them He was the one who like Trigger all of us At the same time It's like He was like a catalyst
Starting point is 00:14:50 To their chaos so that he's JAR. Mm-hmm. And we were planning to have him on the show even. We did. I actually asked him and I was like, you know, you've got this happening. So, you know, just tell me when you want to come on. Yeah, like, while Jim has been away with his Mexican family, he'll be back soon.
Starting point is 00:15:04 We wanted him to come on to, like, add another layer to the episode and just, like, have a laugh. Because that would have been. Yeah. And then it's just like, he just has a message, and then he's gone. And this was, like, weeks before I literally streamed with him, you know, with Jarfans viewing. And that's like, he's seen. That's that sudden change that is so disturbing to me. Which I've experienced a change like that before, but I was just like, okay, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:15:29 This is crazy. But I, on the day that it happened, I went over to my parents to talk to them about it. And they were saying how... No, wasn't that the day after? Because that's when you went to your parents, then we went to Tesco. So that was like the day after, I think. Because when we found out, it was like... Oh yeah, it was already too late.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah, it was the next day. But point being, my parents... my parents told me how the same thing happened to them once upon a time a couple decades ago they had a friend who just suddenly threw some trauma in their life became like a born-again christian and just vanished never saw her from them again is that kind of thing where it's like it takes a massive event a traumatic event for for people to suddenly you know turn religious It's like, it's how some religions pray on people to get them to join the region. Yeah, of course your mind flings are the most negative thing possible.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Not as like an insult to anyone who's religious out there who listens. Oh no, of course not. I'm just saying it's just like in some situation. But the thing is it's like it was clearly an issue for him that there was some clash going on with him being religious wasn't going to work with us not, you know. Whereas I'm sure if he was just. a modern day regular Christian that wasn't so hardcore fundamentalist then I'm sure nothing would be different like I don't care we don't care you know we accept that you know
Starting point is 00:16:58 we're just friends that's what we're sure most Christians out there like they don't care about you know stupid video games and stuff and they can appreciate the context behind the Bible and you know question things a bit more because he really has turned to a blind faith where you cannot get any information out of him anymore you can't question anything and it doesn't sit with me and I couldn't be on eggshells around him
Starting point is 00:17:29 like pretending that I would be okay with him having these views about gay people and evolution and stuff where it's just a bit too much for me. For me I find this if people do have like homophobic views like in line with the Bible It's just like, I find that difficult because it's just like, it's, I'm so okay, okay with that. Why wouldn't you be? But it's like, yeah, pretending that it's like, I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You can respect their faith to the point where you can say, look, you can, you can believe this stuff all you want. I disagree with it. However, I, I can't condone our relationship anymore in terms of being friends. so I'm afraid it's kind of like an automatum it's kind of like it's the big thing for us because it's like he took himself out of the group chat he took us himself out of everything
Starting point is 00:18:21 it's just like when you suddenly just walk out of a group chat this is the main way you communicate with your friends it's like how do you how do we now breach a like make a bridge between him and our group it became a black and white thing instead of uh if he'd approached it in terms of saying something like
Starting point is 00:18:36 look guys it's been really awkward for me these past a few years because I'm actually Christian and some of the things you guys talk about or say sometimes offends me or what he never really made it clear what it was um like for example if I was religious in some way and I was in a group chat that said something that maybe personally offended me I would say hey listen could could we maybe not talk about or joke about that kind of thing where it's like you don't joke about things that you know affect the people and the friends that you have when you know what they're going through
Starting point is 00:19:15 but if we if we don't know how we can't just assume otherwise we could we could never make fun of anything yeah it's eggs it's like oh we can't make a joke about Alex falling off his chair because somehow it might because maybe I've done that in the past and I've got trauma from it and now you know it's like that level of like you know I've been through trauma imagine you have it's like my joke about that because that's how you deal with it yeah I I make all the time jokes about you know, that video I made ages ago and like the stuff I went through
Starting point is 00:19:44 I make jokes about that my friends, my other friend's group makes jokes about it because it's like, by joking about it yourself, it's just like you don't get offended or upset by it and it's like having to walk on eggshells whenever you want to talk someone, it's just like it makes being a friend very, very difficult
Starting point is 00:19:59 and that's not it's like, I couldn't like wake up in morning and say some dumb shit because it's like, okay, okay is this, I went worried that I'm like upset him or offended him and I don't like that mm-hmm my try I did I did ask him multiple times um look if we did offend you or something
Starting point is 00:20:18 please tell us what we said or what it was but he kept reiterating it was nothing about that but it was that's the thing yeah it's this of course it was otherwise he wouldn't have the the real moment is literally moments for this happen it's seen on the screenshot with his Twitter we made a jump oh we literally we've been saved an image from a like a Christian Facebook group and posted it and that was a joke and it was just like loll yeah and then that was literally it was a joke about religion
Starting point is 00:20:46 moments before he had this thing yeah it was just like okay and that's when it suddenly turned it to Alex saying he's gonna wait me and it's just like it turned into this farcical game where we were going through the group chat history looking for things that might have upset him which we found a few because it's just like that's how because i don't think there's anything any group any person any anything that we haven't joked about i'm made fun of because everything's off the table because it's our private group chat anyway and he's been in it for years
Starting point is 00:21:18 so we figured by now whatever he's part of it now there's some of the jokes you made recently we've literally made countless times in the bars when he's been there so it's just like why would it suddenly be an issue? And he's joined in with us too
Starting point is 00:21:28 so it's not like you know we're being dicks you talked about rape but I'm pretty sure he's made a joke about wape as well at some point because that's like it's a dumb group chat
Starting point is 00:21:37 no it was just a a unique experience because I've never experienced anything like it something so out of left field so confusing so unexpected totally unexpected and it's left us in a really weird like limbo I mean there's still so many questions that we don't really know that's the thing it's like we'll drive ourselves mad trying to question everything it's like we've just got we literally had to just like cut ourselves on it and just be like you know
Starting point is 00:22:07 we can't this is just not right yeah it's a bit too much for me it's just it's crazy it's just it lingers on your mind like all week I've been thinking about it worked sitting there just like this is crazy well and now you can't escape it you can't move on because every single thing there are all these triggers now like Halo as a franchise is always gonna remind me of them now yeah and it's always gonna lead back to that story and all these different things all these memories all these you know games you know when we went bowling it's just like the jokes everything it's just gonna be like
Starting point is 00:22:40 we think Jim and I went to see solo or Star Wars story with him just all these things where it's like there's a link to all of it and that's going to take years like decades to just you know to cut yourself on
Starting point is 00:22:57 it's not something you'll forget I don't think so yeah that's been our week it's been absolutely crazy we've been having great fun on Apex and it's just like oh oh it was just
Starting point is 00:23:09 and while Jim away as well. Jim's been away the entire time so he hasn't actually like he's never seen any of it until it was just like Jim I send a message saying look at the group chat because we're fucking in shock and then Jim was just like Jim made the fucking like joke where he said
Starting point is 00:23:24 I've been away for two weeks and he turned him into a fucking religious cellar what the fuck yeah and during this time Jim he's only like told you through messaging but like the only like times mean we even have like seen him he literally posts a meme in the
Starting point is 00:23:40 group chat of attention thank you for your attention that's it that's oh we'd know if he's still alive and it's just like really dumb and then this happens and he's just like what the fuck this no but it's weird that he came back when i was on holiday he leaves when jim was on holiday it's just like the timing is so weird and especially as this was this happened a day after the the last jar class where we talked about porn and porn addiction it's just like yeah so maybe it was about that porn addiction thing yeah and it's just like there's so many things that it was just like, whoa, what? It's crazy. Yeah. I don't want to insult anyone as if I do want to reiterate that honestly, we don't care what your beliefs are. Um, is that yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:25 we don't care. It's like, you judge, you're not, you judge someone by that character and, you know, who they are, not like, you know, what, what they believe or their sex or whatever. It's, we don't care what your beliefs are. However, if we, if we, you know, if we, you know, you know, you know, we want to associate you and you do have extreme beliefs, we might not be okay with that. And I think that's more than fair enough to, we weren't mean to him. No, we weren't. We weren't, you know, cruel in any way. I haven't spoken to him because it's just like, that's difficult, you know, because I'm just like so weird.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah. We might talk about this more when Ruben and Jim are back at the same time. Yeah, because obviously Ruben was there, so he's got what he has to say. And then Jim is just like, you know. Ruben was definitely the most passionate about it. Ruben went in and he tried to get information and find out. Well, Ruben went in the hardcore way to get information, and I went in the more... Yeah, it's too shay, Ying and Yang, really, of the way you both approached it.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah. Yeah, and then I stayed out of it. And this was all happening while I was at work, because I was at work, and I was just seeing these messages of these, like, this stuff that... And it's just like, holy shit. And it just, yeah, he just kept escalating to a point where it was like, oh, we're going to have to make a decision, lads. Yeah, and then, you know, that happens.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's like it's sad because it's like I've lost a friend like it's honest I was close to and it that that hurts It's just weird losing a friend in such a strange way where he still exists over the It's not like drifting apart gradually. It's like being cut off. Yeah, it's like just cut off like he's not the person he was And that's really difficult Yeah I mean, yeah, I still read it and it doesn't really sink him properly. It's very very strange I know, it's weird Speaking of being addicted to wanking, though
Starting point is 00:26:11 Last week we did talk about. Some good feedback from that Whank episode. Yeah, like I've read all the comments the day because I was just, that's what I do. You know, saying I, you know, I go on the Reddit. I mainly just look at how, you know, people think of things, you know, if they've got an idea, you know, it's good to have that, that we can do that and that we do. So I was, you know, something I talked about heavily. So I was just like, I'll go on the comments, you know, see what people think.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You know, same way I did on that. Big Bridge over did last year. And it's interesting to see people think because there's people disagreeing with. There was people who took what I was saying was just like, you know, I know what you mean, but like I think, you know, you focus too much on this
Starting point is 00:26:46 and then you should have focused on this. And it's good to have that criticism and it's good that we have a community that's like that because, you know, our community is proven with the fucking best. I like that just, you know, we talked about it, but we,
Starting point is 00:26:59 I ever exaggerated it because we got out a bit of like humor and a bit of like spin to us talking about it. Because, you know, talking about porn addiction, it's just like it can be very boring unless you make it exciting yeah so there's obviously there's some things that i said which are incorrect and all of that but it's just like you know people are saying like you know at least james talking about it has opened it and made me think about it and it's like i've i've read messages some people saying that they've experienced it and it does
Starting point is 00:27:23 it does fuck you know dysfunction and everything up and it is a very real thing and it's like it's good that we can open people's eyes because in my belief it's like we've got this platform so we should always use it for not all the time but we should be able to bring massive things to the intention like you know mental health and all this to raise awareness for good causes you know which we've both done you've done it on your YouTube channel we've done it here so you know and I think that's great yeah it's it's a surprise actually because I didn't think that many people would be like oh yeah it's this well because it's it's something that will have affected
Starting point is 00:27:59 your life no matter what angle you're coming at it from whether you've experienced it or I mean everyone's jerked off or a thought about jerking off or not jerking off so this issue and I actually had a message from Joseph and he's you know he created the Lego here you know he's he's a epic jar fan and he sent me a message saying your video made me realize that you know this this is actually a bigger issue in society and he's trained to become a psychologist I'm pretty sure or therapist I mean so it's like he was just like I didn't think of this and it's thank you for you know making me feel of that and it's like him being like
Starting point is 00:28:34 like that it just makes me feel good because it's just like you know different ways we're helping you know we're helping other people who's who that's what that's what I like about um jar is like most of the time they're memers and they haven't fun the jar found they go hard on me it's like they will fuck yeah they will go hard on us they will roast us and then it's just like the next moment they're like 100% when we do talk about things that's serious which is only now and again but they treat it seriously and they yeah it's like the visual i made last year like there was loads of support going out which was great and you know you know that's heartfelt for me and that's something I'm always going to remember but then there's like
Starting point is 00:29:08 Joseph as well we never spoke about a time we're going to make a video on it which you still might but Yosef you know he I think we read it out on the cast but he um the video made him you know talk in front of a crowd in his school about mental health which yeah yeah obviously helps hundreds more people and it's like a ripple effect and now he's done it again and it's just like that's awesome that original video has gone on to there's so much effect from it just from me talking about it's like you know I want to go back and like you know talk again about the video I made last year yeah and you know I'm having difficulties because it's hard for me to talk about but it's something I want to do and we gather we will hold on we'll be back after these
Starting point is 00:29:45 messages you know as I was saying it's like I want to go back and talk again about mental health and that's a lot more to be said there's a lot I've learned and that that could be coming over the next few weeks because you know yeah I think having us both experience major things it's like it's good that we can talk about it and it's good that people do listen and you know understand when we do and actually
Starting point is 00:30:10 you know learn from it it's very good yeah we might do that as a separate video thing we would because there's a lot to talk about yeah and it's difficult and it's you know everything like that but yeah to our community you know
Starting point is 00:30:23 big thumbs up big thumbs up to the Ming I just I find it funny that whenever we talk about really hard stuff It's always you and me. It's like we're the, we're the two jar members who go hard, you know, slinging risky, apple or all tenure. Yeah, a bit of liquid honesty helps. If we keep this up, we're going to be known as the alcoholic,
Starting point is 00:30:46 so we can't have that. Well, so this is the second half of the jar cast where we head over to the JAR Media Reddit to answer questions from the community. If you want to leave your own questions, head over to the JAR Media Reddit, and there's a thread that is pinned there at the time. top? Yep. We can leave any question
Starting point is 00:31:01 you desire. And we may or may not answer it, you know, depending on the episode. And how shit they are. You, you love saying that they're really shit. Stash, D.K. is going to start us off this episode. DK. Donkey Kong or Drift King? Donkey Kong's mustache?
Starting point is 00:31:19 If you're suddenly transported into the middle of the first jar cast, what hilarious antics would take place? I'd probably be a like oh my god I was so underweight but honestly back then there's that there's a video where in the intro you can see my legs and they're so skinny I never realized how um like thin you were yeah like we've been said like you are so fucking skinny and it's like being son it's always been skinny and always been like that it's like I don't notice it but then it's
Starting point is 00:31:51 like you quite notice it when you're in it and I thought I was still fat back then I know which is really dangerous if you think about it you're skinny and you're thinking you're fat that's like no yeah oh shit that's a body dysmorphia 101
Starting point is 00:32:02 you know I do if I went back there what I'd replace the shorts I have with trousers because I
Starting point is 00:32:08 wore shorts a lot back then so it came from the bonus shorts oh because did it show the
Starting point is 00:32:13 dick bulge sometimes yeah and those shorts since then they've actually broken the button
Starting point is 00:32:20 doesn't actually work like it's not even yeah you've still got them I've put a cable tied them together
Starting point is 00:32:25 and I wear them sometimes and they're what I wear to work on cars because you know working on cars you're gonna get filthy so I wear like a nose on it I wear really terrible
Starting point is 00:32:34 I wear really terrible clothes and I would not wear those shorts if I went back because they got known as the bonus shorts that's an issue that's like it would be cool to do a cast where it's like us now
Starting point is 00:32:47 with the other two members being us from back then whereas it would be completely different because since then we've both gone through so much and it's just like
Starting point is 00:32:57 I think we've both aged quite a lot. I'm like 10 times as older as I was back then. And you've changed. You're like, you're a different person. I don't know you anymore. Yeah, man. So it would be really strange because it's like, they'd be so hyperactive and we'd just be like,
Starting point is 00:33:16 what the fuck are they? The fuck are they making. So it'd be interesting concept for sure. DFS off as a, Al, says, what questions have you wanted asked, but never have been asked, and can you answer them? I've always thought it'd be interesting to talk about our idols and, you know, how we idolized them and, you know, what have they, like, affected in our lives. That's something about idols. I've always thought, like, that would be an interesting subject, but I don't know if you guys, you know, put as much importance on your idols as, you know, I do.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Like, celebrity or, you know. No, just like someone you idolized, like, you know, could be anyone. one but sometimes you know most of time they are celebrities in some way because then the public eye and that type of thing and I've always thought that's an interesting subject I even said said on like a few cast ago saying ask us this I feel like we have talked about idols before I don't know I don't know I don't know do you want to answer it then because that was the question was that's what the question was yeah answer that's what the question do you go first because um you're gonna cringe at mine I have plenty of idols but I'm
Starting point is 00:34:27 struggling to even think of any now i did why that's why i find it interesting because to me it's like how can someone be your idol if you don't remember them and you and they because it's they haven't like affected your life in some way it's different people based on like my age where it was and what everything and everything like that like at one point it was all the animation youtubeers like only eager app to psychic pebbles you know when they were huge on youtube back they were big into I really defined my sense of humor
Starting point is 00:35:01 the things I like to draw that kind of thing around about then and I really liked certain directors I've always really liked I was obsessed with Tim Burton when I was at my
Starting point is 00:35:11 perfect hot topic kind of age drawing spirals all the time and edgy stuff like that yeah I don't know who it would be now particularly I sort of idolize certain aspects of many people you know
Starting point is 00:35:30 I want a really random one you might not link with me who I really like the idea of is Jack Black you want to know why that size is interesting actually I just like how
Starting point is 00:35:47 he has no filter and he's not scared to show who he is at all that's what I really I do link that to you because that's kind of jar you is just like it's the same reason I like you know David Bowie and all of those kinds of personalities where it's like I'm going to put I'm not going to filter anything I do to try and appease anyone but you're just going to be like me and you're either going to like it or not and I don't care that's one thing I do I do um idolize like my grandma a lot for that same reason because she's like a really strong personality she knows who she is and she doesn't care what other. people think that that's what you're saying is like that resonates of someone who I idolize for that reason like that specific reason is like that like I know I know you come from completely yeah so those are my main ones I'm sure I'm forgetting some like they're I idolize people on different fronts like for some as being humans
Starting point is 00:36:45 and just being good people or certain artists that are out there whether it be like film music anything like that you will idolize specific things Yeah, I've got some of some idols who are like that, but... Well, what's yours? Because I just went on for ages. There's only one idol that I can think of who, like, throughout my, like, life from when I was a very young age,
Starting point is 00:37:05 I've constantly idolized, I guess. And I, I, you know, idolized this person for, like, every reason. And that is, you know, it's a bit of a meme, actually. It's Ayr and Senna. Center. Okay. It is, because it's just, like,
Starting point is 00:37:20 I've always admired his, like, ferocity and, like, dedication to his work, you know? Explain who it was. is for those who don't know just think he was a former one driver you know in the 80s 90s you know and he was he's known as one of the best one of the greatest people will argue that but you know there's there's this great movie that you've seen called center the documentary just called son it's a fantastic movie so i would recommend to watch it because it's like
Starting point is 00:37:44 incredible i even i liked it and i knew nothing about the guy it's just like i i everything about him i idolized because it's like his complete like people watching think like oh he's a cock but it's just like some of the things he did in his racing career is a bit like questionable but it's like he was 100% dedicated to it like with a hunt a burning passion and i idolize that because it's just like i should idolize someone who was 100% on their like work and passion because that's how i like want to get somewhere yeah and you want to see yourself and it's like i idolize his kindness as a as a human because it's like you know in that time he was like this the biggest person in Brazil like in his funeral like everyone was fucking sad because he was
Starting point is 00:38:28 like during that period in Brazil it's really kind of difficult and it's just like everyone admired him because he was that the national face for Brazil and he was you know winning you know worldwide and everyone knew him and it's just like he cares so much about his community and he like donated a lot of money helped his community all the time and I idolized that because when he was so like such like a bit of an asshole on the the track but he was so because he was so dedicated and then he was taking his winnings and all that and donating it to his community and that it's like idolize that because you should always be kind like that and that's you know that's why out of everything I idolize everything about him and it's like
Starting point is 00:39:08 if I'm tired at work or something like that I think I think of kind of a think of him and I'm just like why should I be tired I should be you know I should be motivated to work more which I do because it's like in December you know there's so much work to do and I was literally like midday and it'd be like I'm so tired and it'd be like I'm going to do two hours overtime and I sit there at like five o'clock and I get so determined and I'd be I'd be cranky because I was just like this needs to be done I'd do that for like two weeks straight and it's just like I was thinking of that time of him and they're working and that son I've always idolized like there's other idols I have but he's the one where it's just like he's the one who's affected my life
Starting point is 00:39:49 because I think of him and there's the one quote I live by is it's a meme if you do not go for a gap you're no longer a racing driver because it's like to me that is basically
Starting point is 00:40:01 you've got to go 100% if you want to like achieve what you want and that's how I live if I'm depressed or anything like that I think of that and I motivate myself to work hard that makes sense I thought you were going to go somewhere else
Starting point is 00:40:16 and say someone who's actually like memeable but that's a perfectly respectable answer. Yeah. I think, you know, your idol should be that. It should be something you think of to help influence your life in a positive way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Miss Vanity Cosme says personal opinions on astrology, tarot, psychics, and why or why not? Also, if you do not believe, do you think they are harmful slash should be actively prohibited? Psychics in particular? I don't really have an opinion on them, to be honest,
Starting point is 00:40:53 because it's like I don't really know much about them and it's like, you know, growing up. You know, like star signs and, you know, psychics, all these shows and everything where they claim to be talking to ghosts effectively about, you know. I've seen people post about it on Twitter and I like talking about it. It's just like it's harmless.
Starting point is 00:41:15 It's like if they want to, you know, believe that stuff. Yeah, the... The morality can be questioned when a lot of the psychics can sort of prey on sensitive people who maybe have lost a kid recently. Yeah, it's kind of like snake oil salesmen's in a way. Yeah, that's what it feels like to me.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yeah, if you're extorting and manipulating people to get money, it's a bit like, come on. But, you know, if you're just wanting an astrology group chat some people it's like there's no harm in that you know people can do that that's that's cool i don't mind i personally don't believe it because i'm just very much you know yeah i don't believe any of it um although i did find it's kind of in the same vein with the the chinese new year animals um yeah it's kind of saying you know like astrology and all that is based on you know when you're born and star signs and everything but because of coming from
Starting point is 00:42:17 through panda, loll, lull, I was looking up, oh, what's my Chinese New Year animal? And mine was a dog. And I was like, okay, that's pretty fitting. What's Jim's? He's an ox. And it's like, yeah, that's fitting. And then my dad is also an ox. And it's like, yeah, they've got a pretty similar kind of personalities and a brawn thing going on.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And what really solidified it for me was, Argi is a year of the monkey and I've been calling Argi a little monkey skull for like weeks before looking it up
Starting point is 00:42:55 so that was like I guess I guess that's my religion now then Chinese New Year animals what is mine actually yours would be
Starting point is 00:43:05 it wouldn't be ox because yeah you would have been you would be the previous one what is it Chinese New Year Chinese New Year
Starting point is 00:43:14 animals or whatever I'm gonna find that because I'm interested No and I was seeing weird patterns So mine year The worst Okay I'm gonna Bear with
Starting point is 00:43:24 I'm just trying to figure It find mine out But yeah there's I like how it goes to me Okay Jim and I have some Have cousins who
Starting point is 00:43:37 We can sort of see A mirroring us But they're like 10 years younger Yeah And the older cousin is a dog as well, and the younger one was... Okay, mine is... An ox too.
Starting point is 00:43:52 What's yours? Year of the Watt. You're the rat. It's the first rat I've heard. So the character traits are smart, wealthy, successful and popular. Wats are curious and thoughtful and light tidiness, but they can be stubborn and lack courage. Yeah, mate, that's definitely me. You know, it's just a really vague description.
Starting point is 00:44:12 the best matches they do that as well is the dragon, the monkey in the ox so Jim's the ox and you got Argy the monkey I don't get along with Argy Jim is like my baby and I don't know who's the dragon
Starting point is 00:44:28 so yeah point being I don't really believe in any of it no the only one I would consider you know harmful in any way would be if
Starting point is 00:44:39 these psychic shows or whatever they do kind of prey on the week but I don't think that should necessarily be illegal I don't know I'm not informed enough on the case to be honest to really any of us are really Little shitlet asks Alex have your thoughts on furries change
Starting point is 00:44:56 since befriending Adam YMS People keep bringing up this video I made years ago I hate furries it was called but this was back in the day where I was making I hate blank videos on things that I didn't even hate or knew really anything about yeah like I did one on Minecraft and I think in the video I say like you said I actually quite like Minecraft I built this incredible world I love this game yeah so I
Starting point is 00:45:22 didn't actually really say anything mean or horrible about furries in the video I just said I find it weird and confusing and it kind of is still to me so in that sense it hasn't changed that much but it doesn't really affect any I said, I said, I literally said in that video, um, you, you can do whatever you want on the weekend. As long as it's not hurting anyone, I don't give a shit. Yeah. So like, whatever. If people like that, I like that, I don't.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I'm not going to be going to any furry cons anytime soon, but... Yeah. Whatever, dude, I don't care. So you shouldn't, it's like your view shouldn't change of Adam if, just because he's a furry, like I, I don't see him, because, actually, I know who he is. years. I don't see him and just be old furry. I'm just like what we like. You know, if you're going to hate someone just for the things they like, that's your problem. You can't really, if it's part of what you consider your identity, like, okay, whatever, okay. A lot of people that like associate, you know, their passion with, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:31 who they are and that type of stuff. You shouldn't go overboard, but like, that's relatively normal. So I wish people would stop, you know, misquoting the video and all that. And, it's just such a vague video that comes to no conclusion anyway so I don't know why people like obsess over the title I guess which is fair enough I suppose is confusing
Starting point is 00:46:51 Gersmos 7 asks has any experience or any piece of media made you feel like you are out of this world or high that's quite a good question actually because the Matt one that happened
Starting point is 00:47:11 did he say experiences he said experiences or any piece of media okay that that the thing we've literally just talked about that is yeah that's a great example of that because it made me question everything the very fabric of space
Starting point is 00:47:26 was crumbling around me yeah I'm sure I don't know if there's I don't think of any movies because I don't really watch them I see no farce and furious you can't call people can't complain about Kingdom Hearts and Fast and Furious is ten times more confusing. That movie's bad.
Starting point is 00:47:48 What, Furious Six? We've watched Furious Six, literally before this happened, because we're eating pizza and we're just like, okay. It's on Netflix. Fuck it. Why not? And we've always, you know, it's well known within movies that Fast and Furious Five is, like, ridiculously dumb and it's stupid. Six? No, Fast Five.
Starting point is 00:48:05 People think that Fast Five's the ridiculous one. Because they drag a vault with a car. That's ridiculous. Fast 6. It's the vault scene on stowboys. They've gotten more and more ridiculous since. None of that movie makes sense. They connect all of the first movies to that movie somehow,
Starting point is 00:48:25 and then someone's supposed to know. I don't know. It's ridiculous. But I love Fires and Furious. The horror movie Susperia from last year, that like freaked me out and made me feel like I was having an out-of-body experience because it's just so creative
Starting point is 00:48:45 it's just a horror movie would recommend it I'm not going to watch it because it would be too much for you for sure Alex I watch one horror movie and I'm scarred for life if I watch that and I might just die you're scared of this is the end which one
Starting point is 00:49:01 okay it made me jump at one point make me out to be a base it. Okay, in trade asks, car question of the week for James. What do you think about the early 2000s car compared to their late 90s predecessors? Like the 350 Z compared to the 300 ZX or the RX8 compared to the RX7 FD. Do you think they live up to the hype behind the 90s cars? In a lot of ways, yeah, because the two cars he's just listed. really great cars and the two cars are for them are really great cars. Early 2000s was when cars were, you know, getting more modern but they were still being really good
Starting point is 00:49:45 and like kind of heavy driver's cars and that type of stuff and it's... I might buy a car from that period to be continued because it's probably gonna buy it. So yeah, I think they do live up to it and it's like there's a lot of hype like around certain cars like skylines of, you know, the one our friend loves, off anymore and the earlier ones I think it's
Starting point is 00:50:13 very specific with Japanese cars because you know they've got loads of coupés and that type of stuff and it's like the early 2000s ones were taking the name and the legacy
Starting point is 00:50:22 and in a lot of ways making them better so yeah I think they are they do live up to the earlier cars I'll take your way for them but then everyone would pick the earlier cars
Starting point is 00:50:32 over the later cars because the earlier cars are just like a Okay Alex I hope that answer the question If I turn definitely 86
Starting point is 00:50:41 You'd be like Oh shit Is they great Yeah I have to see it To believe it No you know All you have to think
Starting point is 00:50:49 It's pop up pedlamps Okay that's pretty cool Yeah Nothing views pop up a peddance Wee woo Wheeoo Fart Night 111 said
Starting point is 00:51:00 If you had to make a sequel To a bad DreamWorks movie Which would it be And why Madagascar, obviously That's the one with like the loosest plot So you can just do anything you want, basically Yeah, but you don't want it to be a bad sequel
Starting point is 00:51:17 No, but what difference does it make? They've already had bad sequels It doesn't make a difference It doesn't make a difference I'm maybe to be good That's my point, like you have to know Yeah, so you're saying it's going to be a bad sequel, not a good sequel And I'm just like saying things
Starting point is 00:51:33 No, the comment, the question was, if you had to make a sequel to a bad DreamWorks movie... Of course, Madagascar's bad. You've literally been telling me for months that it's good. No, there's a difference between getting loads of enjoyment and finding something really entertaining and thinking it's genuinely like a great film and that kind of thing. You've literally been saying them both for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah, because they're intertwined in a way. I would... Let me put it this way. I wouldn't get angry or disagree with someone who said they can't stand Madagascar 3, right? Hmm. So using that as if that was the general opinion, most people aren't out here defending Madagascar, are they?
Starting point is 00:52:19 I'm probably the only one in the world, let's be real. So, you know, that would be my choice. You are probably the only one in the world. Because you could go crazy with it, so. It is in the meme atmosphere at the moment. Madagascar. Yeah, just pure coincidence. That's not why I start watching it again.
Starting point is 00:52:35 You know, we started talking about it and suddenly it's a meme. Wouldn't be the first time, would it? Yeah, we are ahead of the curve. Do you have an answer? Have you seen enough? No. Shark tale, you've had shark tail? A bit of B movie? Home? Trolls? No?
Starting point is 00:52:53 You've got a young nephew? Surely you've seen some of these? No, because he's obsessed with Marvel. Okay. Even worse for me is that he's obsessed. Okay, Demo, Iron Man. Ooh. Ed Craze asks,
Starting point is 00:53:09 Alex, have you been drawing recently? I know you draw from time to time, but you don't really talk about it. I was wondering if you had any stories about your drawings. Um, I've had the itch and urge recently to start doing it again.
Starting point is 00:53:26 But I just don't do it because I'm bad. I'm bad. person you're not I'm my idol anymore Alex I'm sorry um I don't draw so I can't really add anything no yeah I do enjoy it but it can be quite frustrating when you you don't you know you have stupidly high standards for yourself and then you keep you know trying to draw something and you think it sucks that shouldn't matter I've got like all these sketchbooks I want to fill up with just
Starting point is 00:53:59 crap but Alex is too busy playing Mass Effect Andromeda and laughing at the entire time Yeah I tend to just do other things Because like creatively I feel fulfilled Anyway if your YouTube With yeah
Starting point is 00:54:14 People might not think it's on the same level But for me the process is Kind of fulfilling that same need So I just did a big fart Sounded like a fireball Last episode there was like this fucking massive fart I did that actually got into the episode which I was quite happy with
Starting point is 00:54:31 when I was editing it I heard it it was a bloody massive fire I don't have any stories about my drawings I just sit down and draw there's nothing really interesting
Starting point is 00:54:42 about it do you know what I found on the group chat what not group chat the old Facebook group yeah I found this animation you made really about what
Starting point is 00:54:51 for an hour now really what was the animation it was a guy bent over his ass out and he was just pooping and then it pooped and then went back in when out of his mouth and then pooped and it was oh no really
Starting point is 00:55:02 if you can find that I'll put that as the intro to this episode I can I try to save it to send it to you I know I couldn't save it so you can have to screen record it and then somehow get on but I saw it and I just started screen laughing because I know if you saw it you do the same so I just found it so funny I also found the fuck the killer quop bit the killer crock and I had I think it was gym and we had
Starting point is 00:55:28 the hit hit a clock yeah yeah yeah I found that a Batman video I'll show you since there's so much real bro that's awesome yeah so people might see it the only episode you're like oh that's what I mean loads of stuff like that once upon time the weird I posted actually on the pictures I found on Instagram yeah Jim was just like whoa mm-hmm I don't know my subpoena what was that um this this question said without context Alex say anything or without saying anything make a noise and see how they react so I react like a normal human being yeah you didn't really do I could have been
Starting point is 00:56:20 weirder but it wouldn't be the first time you've been weird let's be will what is that Pop Tropica Escaname asks What does Jamie do outside the cast Like he really be the only member That don't got something Question mark
Starting point is 00:56:37 What do you mean don't got something? I don't know what that means What do you mean don't got something What does that mean? I'm gonna take that as if like He doesn't have a girlfriend No but it's like it's not that we talk about girls very often We specifically don't
Starting point is 00:56:52 I know because he's not the only one who doesn't got something I think it meant more as like a thing oh like a passion like a burning desire but Jim does have his thing
Starting point is 00:57:03 he's got his reload animations he can't call that a passion man he never does anything about it I can still appreciate so you've got your we can't say you've got your YouTube because that's your job got my YouTube got me Lego
Starting point is 00:57:18 actually to be fair you've got your Lego which you know you do that's your passion I've got my my car and you know my dream Ruben's got his
Starting point is 00:57:28 What does Jim have I know Mumma I know what Jim has What What does he got tell me We need him here to answer it really Yeah because I don't know what he's got
Starting point is 00:57:51 he's got his really obscure way of messaging us that's kind of it he's got his humour yeah right we should be able to fit one more in no Alex it's an Alex ex-James which means you have to go extra hard
Starting point is 00:58:05 okay you can keep going I don't mind Alex you know what I've never I've never told you this okay what I really like talking yeah sometimes I like I sit on this cast and I just like
Starting point is 00:58:19 talking about random stuff and I like having it like I'm sorry we created it now like now we're sitting here risky we're just talking about you know crap
Starting point is 00:58:30 and you know just random things and I love that mm-hmm and now I love it I love you Alex yeah I love you too bro beer
Starting point is 00:58:39 is that what whiskey you need to have whiskey for any genuine feelings to come out like all the alcoholic drinks like I know I've got to Cheers, Barry. Cheers, boy. You know, I've gone to the pub and it's all like so, it's like chaotic, you know, there's noise.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And it's like, when you've got whiskey and you're just talking, it's like the best times. It's when you get down to the business. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I appreciate everyone. I appreciate you. Appreciate the jailings. Appreciate James.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I just, I love, I love talking on this cast. It's great. Yeah. And it's crazy because it's taken so long for, like, me to actually, like, fully get into doing jail and, like. The fans love it, man, so... Actually, enjoying just talking about one of stuff and having the go to talk about crazy topics and hard topics. It's quite freeing in a way.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It's like a time capsule as well. Back to the earlier question, it's like... I should we pause this and then come back in a sec? The camera's just about to go out. You're going back to what the jar fans said earlier about if you were teleported back to the earlier episode. It's like, we're so different and it's taken so long for me to actually, like, have a voice.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Because to be honest, early episodes, I didn't really have a voice. I was kind of just a person there for no reason to just to fuck it up. But now it's like, we're all fully into it. We all can, we all have a voice and that's just crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I heard somewhere that if you have a podcast, it takes about 100 episodes for you to maybe start getting good at it. And we're only on 156. It's because it's like unconsciously you have to just get so natural at doing it. It's like now we just talk. you know there's nothing to us now no yeah but back in the early days it was just like you're so
Starting point is 01:00:23 you're actively thinking about the camera being there like the way you should talk the way you should like yeah form yourself but now it's like we're just us on the cast you know yeah well the thing that always was the struggle to begin with was kind of creating or thinking of something that would spark like a conversation there isn't just like one minute or less of discussion then it's like silence yeah and we had we really struggled with that that's why that's why I was always like doing dumb shit because it was like
Starting point is 01:00:53 do something la random so the other so the cast has something to react to it's why the cast was just chaos because we just we didn't really know how to talk and that's why you know we had an episode where we were discussing like a coi it's like yeah it's dumb but now it's like we routinely get into such a discussion it's like time flies because we're just like actually just getting into like a really good topic and it's yeah I'm I'm glad there's
Starting point is 01:01:18 been like an evolution you know and like we started the worst possible way of no chairs a mic one mic and it's like we've progressed with the setup we've like actually yeah like having this set up and being back then would be a waste of the setup yeah exactly we were effectively toddlers crawling around on the floor but now it's like we've got this nice setup we've got proper like mics it's comfortable yeah so then that goes of how we actually present ourselves and actually do these podcasts now yeah it's such a natural way and it's just like you can't rush into it you have you have to go without period because that's just how long it takes well yeah and it wasn't like a natural
Starting point is 01:02:00 thing for me to start doing because um whenever i've done something involving a mic have always been reading a script yeah it's a totally different beast and you you've come from that to being this like complete free flow like none of what we say or we talk about is like planned we don't think about what we're saying. No, we have very vague, like, ideas for topics. But I think that's such a, like, a thing we have, a very specific thing we have, because you've looked at other podcasts, it's so much more structured to ours, isn't. I mean, that's our, like, little point is that it can go anywhere at any time.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Well, yeah, depending on the cast and what's happened the last week, like, it can just be a chaotic episode. Like, last week, cast was suddenly, like, an instant hard topic. Mm-hmm. And I could... But then 30 minutes later, it was about my reviews that were, like, absurd. It's just ridiculous. And that's, that's such a unique, thing. that a lot of podcasts don't have
Starting point is 01:02:50 because there's so many podcasts about games and it's all like and I've played this. Well, because most of it, the advantage we have is we have the history. All four of us have known each other for so long. Yeah, and that's the thing about a podcast. It's just like sometimes it's difficult
Starting point is 01:03:03 to fully gauge with the people when they're like, they're kind of new to each other. Oh, you know, we're not. Yeah, yeah. I've known you since I was like a baby, basically. So it's like, we have that and that's crazy. We have quite a good topic here. that kind of relates to this wanking thing
Starting point is 01:03:20 that's just our new thing that we I guess we are now. I see everything turns into a meme with us. Edgy Maple Tree asks opinions on are slash no fat or the idea of no fat. Particularly when certain people go to extremes. Do you think
Starting point is 01:03:36 that like pornography addiction complete denial of sexual pleasure can be as damaging? This is interesting because when I was looking for the comments this was mentioned when people saying like yeah I saw a couple about it and you do hear about it like there's this there's this community of no fappers they go around spreading the words it's kind of like a religion that's what I liken it to it's like a region of you know if you don't
Starting point is 01:04:01 fact you're gonna become a god and you're not you're gonna be like this super masculine guy and it's just like yeah okay that's that's that's crazy like you know I've gone on the no fat like you know redits and the no porn reddits and it's just like you gotta take things that have said with a pinch of salt yeah the point we made like I made I might have failed making it was just like you know consuming too much pornography is bad because you can get addicted and that can have physical effects but much like anything to the extreme yeah and then it's just like then it's like the other extreme of you know don't have any sexual pleasure at all it's like that is kind of as bad
Starting point is 01:04:36 because then you're oppressing you know what humans are sexual beings men men love the titty yeah men love titty men love ass if they're gay they love dick you know that that's natural so like repressing that is kind of really unhealthy for you i say it's like you know sometimes you just gotta do that and it's healthy to you know you know i might have said you know shouldn't consume porn but if you like watch your porn video and you fap you know and that's it that's not it's not ruining your life no but if you if you have to jerk off five times a day and you're spending like three hours a day jerking the porn then that's a Maybe that might be an issue.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Like having a healthy balance between it is 100% healthy and you shouldn't, like, deny that. You shouldn't just deny all sexual, like, desires you have. So, yeah. Like, if you watched a video last week and, you know, you thought about it, just don't, like, go completely no-fap. Because that can be quite, you know, damaging. You know, yourself sexually. It might sound like a cop-out, but it's the, all-a-law. about the balance with most things.
Starting point is 01:05:45 You should always have a perfect balance. And just being able to step back and be objective and, you know, assess. I'm not, I'm watching too much. I should have a break for three weeks and then just get back into it and then just have, be healthy, basically. Yeah, try your best, whatever, you know. You should always just, you know, go cold turkey to break yourself from it and then you can just consume, you know, a video and, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:08 for you, you know, and be healthy. That's, that's kind of it. Do you know anything about Ariana Grande? Yes. I know... I will ask this question then, because I cannot add anything to this. But Ali B underscore A asks question for James. I don't know why I'm not included. Maybe he just knows I don't know anything about Ariana Grande.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Uh, I know a bit of him. She recently got a title. Well, the question was, what do you think of the new Ariana Grande album? You heard it? have I heard it I've listened to a few things on it to be there's some things musically which you're a very music-oriented person
Starting point is 01:06:53 you know you like music I know what I like yeah I'm kind of everywhere in terms of music I listen to everything I've listened to like some of her album I listen to
Starting point is 01:07:03 a lot of random stuff there's a few songs I like but it's just like you know if that's what people are they like I like songs not really albums but I just know that she got a tattoo in Japanese and as expected it didn't mean what she thought it meant what did it mean
Starting point is 01:07:20 she got it so it meant like seven wings for the album name I believe but actually meant like camping grill so it's not even discreet it's literally on her hand and it's just like that's such a wee-a-be thing to do to think getting a Japanese word but not actually understanding the language and then she deleted the post of Vinawana because everyone was laughing at her.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Oh no. But we all make done mistakes, so. It's like, what's her face? Kim Kardashian and her huge ass. And now, because her ass is so huge, when she uploads pictures of it, she's actually, like, photoshopping it to look smaller. It's like this sick cycle of, like, trying to please these people. It's, that's like a completely different, like, topic, though, is that kind of, you know, stuff. No, honestly, there is something, too. This, this philosophy I live by, where it's, you just want what you can never have.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Until you have it. And then it becomes something new. You know, you get a huge ass like you've always wanted, but then people make fun of you for it. So then now the new thing is now I don't want a huge ass anymore. It's just never ending that kind of grass is always greener. Way of thinking. And I mean, it doesn't...
Starting point is 01:08:34 I try my best to live by it, but still fucking hot. Mr Duang man asks What do you guys think is the best way to tell a story in a video game Is it linear and cinematic like naughty dogs games Or something more unconventional like old RPGs or Xcom I'm just going to ignore a lot of gamers Not how Dark Souls does it
Starting point is 01:09:01 Dark Souls has no story It's completely pointless And people shouldn't idolize it because it's terrible Um Well that's definitely going to annoy some people and I wouldn't agree. I don't know how they still tell stories. It's a creative way to do it.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I prefer... I'd prefer that way of doing it over having like these really bad poorly produced cutscenes like Amdromeda. I'll take back what I said. Because at the core, games can get by without a story and just have really solid mechanics.
Starting point is 01:09:34 And as long as the art direction and the mystique is there, then you can kind of research. thing I said, I'm sorry. I think, I don't know, I'm going to completely change this. It should, there should, the story, it doesn't matter about the story of how it's delivered. If it's done well, it's fine. If everything up to, is, you know, a good quality, then it doesn't matter how they do it.
Starting point is 01:09:57 If they do it through writing on a whiteboard and Duke Nukum forever or whatever, but it's actually good, then it doesn't matter. As long as it's good, that's what I say. Yeah, but with that comes that. often limitations arise with the design of the game
Starting point is 01:10:16 whereas I've gone on about these looter shooters like Destiny and I'm making a video on Anthem now and they have these same issues where they're trying to do things they've always done in the past but the design of the of their game holds it back massively
Starting point is 01:10:31 whereas if it was like the old formats then the same issues wouldn't be there because of it so and I've been you mentioned it earlier but I've been playing Andromeda Mass Effect Andromeda You did because I had to watch it today And you're turning to a different human being
Starting point is 01:10:47 Because you're consumed by that stuff It's fascinating I love stuff like that Where it's just so It's all gone wrong Whereas like Mass Effect 2 is the same process But it's all come together at the end Whereas Andromeda is the total opposite
Starting point is 01:11:01 Yeah Where everything's just a bit off And it's a bit wrong Even though the set up's quite similar but honestly a more if I have to take a bet on whether I think
Starting point is 01:11:16 the new destiny expansion is going to have a better story than the Last of Us 2 is going to have I'm going to put my bet on the Last of Us 2 so some kind of linearity is kind of needed I think for if you're aping Hollywood specifically
Starting point is 01:11:33 with like cut scenes all the time that are structured like TV or movies or cinema or you know I think it's just like the big issue of games now is they're like trying to make games do something when the design allows that not to happen like anthem it's like it's like building a plane to drive on a motorway it's not going to work yeah no that's totally what anthem is like and destiny's the same all of those types of games are the same because they're not
Starting point is 01:11:58 designed to have what they have you know a story or anything they're designed for reason and that's yeah I'm still not convinced that the co-op games can have like as in-depth stories because through cut scenes you're on in like party chat talking to people you're just not paying attention in the same way
Starting point is 01:12:19 I think no like of all the looters shooter games it's like you know you've got the destiny and from where it's all like loot base but then you think board lands has done this incredibly well and it had the cutscenes and it had a loose story and it had it was talking about like no one's
Starting point is 01:12:35 putting Borderlands 2 in the same thread as Portal 2 in terms of that kind of thing. Of course not, but out of all the looter shooter games, it's more looter than all of these games. It's more drops than all these games, and it has everything else better, so I don't understand why they've all failed where Borderlands 2 was incredibly good. And that game's aged terribly. People like Destiny now there, so more powerful. They have sorted out their gameplay loop a lot, to be fair.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yeah, but Borderlands still had that. Yogs Pog asks, What was the worst experience for you guys on YouTube, be it the IHE copyright drama or dubstep park or two? Follow-up question, what's the worst video you've ever seen on YouTube? The worst video is that like superhero, like movie video, like animated thing, rather than fighting each other. I can't remember what it's called.
Starting point is 01:13:30 But that's the worst video on YouTube. To be honest, I don't remember what the worst is. I have plenty of worst moments on YouTube. I don't remember it because it's just like I kind of forget when things are really bad Of course having IHE deleted wasn't great That was a bit of a The worst thing that's happened to us is
Starting point is 01:13:50 The Minecraft video, we're never going to release Like that hurts me and I wasn't even, isn't it? Which one? The Minecraft Machinima Though that we never finished Okay, no, the other one, the one you don't want to release That's the worst thing that's ever happened to us because that made us think if that machinima was finished it might have actually been worse than okay no it was any other one i i spent an entire night
Starting point is 01:14:15 trying making that and having a severe headache and it never nothing came from it but we would have been rich from it so there's like a different timeline where we became like huge Minecraft youtube that would have happened but no we chose the respectable Hey, we're respectable. Hmm, any other good ones here? Vaping furry, he asks, I've been with the Yolk since episode one, but for the longest time I've been wondering why all of you call Jamie, Jim.
Starting point is 01:14:55 That's a good question because, traditionally, Jim is a nickname for James. Like, I get called Jim by other people. Like, my old boss used to call me Jim. My dad calls me Jim. Really? I've always been called Jim, but then when I'm here, Jim is Jim. It doesn't make sense by the laws of names.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I don't understand why he's called Jim. He's just always been Jim. That's, I don't get though. Maybe my dad started it, he's normally the one that does that. You never shortened Jamie to be Jim. What is a short name for Jamie then? Because... There isn't one, I don't think.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I've never heard anyone call a Jamie a Jim. You don't think Jim Oliver. You think Jamie or? hmm I don't get it I've cut I I asked myself and I'm like no these are just the jar wools he's Jim and I don't think about it it's just that's just what he is yeah he's Jim you know I'm Jordan it's yeah Jim is normally short for James or Jimmy yeah There's no rhyme or reason. It's just what it is and stuck. Yeah. It's just how it is. It's how things be.
Starting point is 01:16:16 So many porn questions. Well, like what? Is it the really expected ones? Or is it like actual good questions? I don't know if we can add anything to this, but J4 your boy says adding to the porn thing. What about some furries who can't get off, get it off to a regular person? it needs to be an anthropomorphic animal or someone who's so horrifically ugly that it's almost impossible
Starting point is 01:16:40 for another person to have sex with them should they jack off to porn? We never said you shouldn't it's like you know it's down to you consume a lot of it I think the other question it's more focused on like when things become like fetish
Starting point is 01:16:59 is like when you can't do you know what do you remember when you used to do your live streams this question actually someone asked this question on the live stream they were asking like about porn and we answered it
Starting point is 01:17:11 and it was like we were talking about the difference between like a fetish and a kink and you brought up the definition was like fetish is when you can't like have any sexual values or if like your fetish isn't involved
Starting point is 01:17:24 so if people can't you know fathed if you know and then from promorphic animals then that's like a fetish that's like just their thing, I guess. You know, that's... I wouldn't say that's an issue.
Starting point is 01:17:40 It's a hard question, really. I don't really... Yeah, I mean, I don't see it as being, like... It doesn't matter what your favourite category is. Your fetish or king. At the end of the day, it's still the same thing for everyone, pretty much, as long as it's not, like, ridiculously
Starting point is 01:17:54 hardcore stuff or whatever. Yeah, I don't really have anything to say about that one. Yeah, it's a weird one. Can I just be honest? I pulled myself a huge-ass glass and I didn't even finish it and you finished I don't know why I gave myself a huge glass
Starting point is 01:18:13 You did have a bit more than me Well it was almost half full And if people can see this glass It's quite a big glass And for that amount of risky And it's like 50% or something It's like just an insane amount of alcohol
Starting point is 01:18:26 And as a not alcoholic Like I'm gonna You know I shouldn't be drinking this much but it's the James and Alex Carson they did this house must do a couple more
Starting point is 01:18:41 Akpan Studios Alex you might have to drive me home do you guys consider yourselves the red letter media of podcasts on YouTube like how you're the less popular but objectively the best at it much like RLM content
Starting point is 01:18:59 creators watch you a lot which is originally why I thought of the comparison I think only you can answer that one. No? I mean, you don't control who watches your videos particularly. It just kind of... If you've done something long enough,
Starting point is 01:19:22 you kind of settle into a certain place where it's like, okay, this is what we are. It's to be okay with it. It's the good thing is we don't try to not be anything else. like weird job we our weird stuff is it's jar and we're not going to
Starting point is 01:19:36 pretend to be mind we're consistent we do we're always there every week our our unique take on it
Starting point is 01:19:46 is um is consistent in how unreliable it is in a sense like you never know what you're going to get but at the same time you do know what you're going to get
Starting point is 01:19:57 it's how you've described me actually you've literally described me the same way is this I'm at I'm like you expect me, but in the same time I'm 100% not expect, you don't, you don't expect like me. That's Jha. Like, Jarre is just like that.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Yeah. So like people might tune in and it's just like one moment they're just like, oh, they're going to talk about Marvel and it's like oh porn porn addiction. Oh fuck. Oh mental health. And it's just like they're talking about diarrhea. Like having diet chili diarrhea. It's like Yeah, I didn't sit around thinking like, yeah, we're the this of this. We're just, well, are we. yeah we don't if you think about it too much you become not yourself but one thing that drives me nuts with like YouTubers specifically is how They are fucking like totally obsessed with statistics
Starting point is 01:20:48 Numbers it's all about fucking numbers It's all about metadata and I cannot stand it I used to be quite obsessed with it a few years ago And it's like there's no satisfying end to it No because it just becomes never enough. You'll never be satisfied with these fucking meaningless numbers. If that's all you focus
Starting point is 01:21:08 on, you're never going to be fucking happy, so I tend to just not look at it. It's like how I sometimes do with money I'm like, I've never satisfied of it. And then you're just like, James, stop. If you constantly compare yourself, you're not going to be happy, and then I'm just like, okay, and I'm happy.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Yeah. You can't obsess over something like that, because it's just not going to... It's too easy, and then people start comparing themselves, with other people of a similar level and they like think oh they're doing way better now or they're doing way worse yes good i'm doing better them now and that kind of thing and it's just nothing good comes from it honestly because you just end up kind of destroying yourself and your personality yeah because you you start associate your personality becomes these
Starting point is 01:21:53 numbers so if say you started doing badly then that's going to really hurt your ego that's gonna hurt you whereas like if if you treat it as what it is then you know there's you stay true to yourself yeah yeah it's too fake anyway a lot of it like all these i find just a lot of youtubeers fake and i find it very hard to fake as fuck man like to actually relate to them on most you know nice cases mm-hmm like a lot of the YouTubers I watch aren't fake like there's my one of my favorite YouTubers is a car YouTube from Japan he's not Japanese but he's you know lives in Japan he doesn't really upload But then when he's uploads, it's still him.
Starting point is 01:22:32 It's like, he doesn't care about his viewers all that. He's just, like, making the content he likes. And it's just like, I relate to that because it's like an actual human. Yeah, it's obvious. Then you see, like, people like Ninja who, like, you know, become these really cocky, like, you know, tritch people. It's like, okay, I don't want, I don't care. Yeah. Boom, boom.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Okay, let's do, let's do, just, like, one more. Just do one more. Because, you know, it's getting late. Yeah, it's nearly 11pm. We go hard, that's what I say. You know, me, you go in, man. Circus Monkey asks, what are some previous obsessions slash phases
Starting point is 01:23:12 you've been through before that you maybe haven't mentioned? We'll end on this. You're going to have to give me wild kids, my whiskey brain is, like, struggling. Nah. Phases. I'm a very
Starting point is 01:23:26 phasy type person. I've kind of been the same, though. Whether it be food, like, clothing, movies, like anything like that. Yeah, you're going for your Maldigascar skates phase at the moment. Yeah, things like that. Teamworks. I even go through phases of calling argue different words. Like it was...
Starting point is 01:23:47 Bebo, buy me, mumime, and... Every week it's a new argy name. Dibby and currently he's monkey. I call him monkey. Actually, you know, there's a phase that... I'm going to claim I'm going to straight claim this
Starting point is 01:24:04 I went for Metal Gear Solid 3s when we were still in school I had a PS3 and I was like I'm going to get all the remasters I pretty much bought it I didn't really play them and I talked about it other times to Jim and then guess what Jim did
Starting point is 01:24:18 he bought Metal Gear Solid it was my fault that got them into Metal Gear no it was me because I talked about like I bought Jim that you know that Metal Gear spin-off thing that came out before five. Why is in Revengeance? No, no, no. Um...
Starting point is 01:24:35 Round zero. Grand zeroes, yeah. No, but that's... No, no, no, no. Because before that, I was talking to him all the time about Metal Gear Solid. So it would have been implanted into his mind by me. You then probably heard him talking about it, got him that. Then he got all the remasters. Then I got him...
Starting point is 01:24:53 I got Metal Gear Solid Five. So it started with me and you, basically. So this franchise that Jim... would we even love is just me and Alex basically that's what we did but yeah I went through that phase hardcore and I think that's just something you do when you're young you're very much
Starting point is 01:25:07 like you just become really obsessed at something and you really want to like consume all of it I went for an ace combat phase watched all of the movies on like YouTube of all the cut scenes and was just like going on the wikis all the time didn't play any of them and then the new one came out and I play that and I was like yes
Starting point is 01:25:23 yeah I go in hard on like communities of things normally it's like around a video game like Halo I'm like right sub to every Halo YouTuber is how I've like wound up on like Act Man's podcast and speaking to him and
Starting point is 01:25:41 late night gaming and that whole like YouTube crowd of Halo YouTubers You're a face person I think Not to my discredit you No massively and then it was like right Lego time now let's just get on all the Lego channels And that fate doesn't end it though Because you've actually you've loved Lego forever
Starting point is 01:25:57 So that's just you but I sort of go in and out currently my latest YouTube obsession is Smash Bros videos I've been watching the pro player zero quite a lot
Starting point is 01:26:09 because he uploads basically every day like and he's just so good at smash I find it fascinating to watch because that game's like infinitely watchable to me and the same thing goes with food that I remember being obsessed with celery at one point
Starting point is 01:26:23 I was obsessed with like soup for a while uh yeah flumps all sorts of things like that like crispy squares different cereals yeah man domino's nachos
Starting point is 01:26:35 domino's cookies but yeah for me it has to be I do the opposite of the advice we keep saying where it's like everything in moderation and I just go fucking in to the point where I never want to eat
Starting point is 01:26:49 celery ever a fucking again or you know I never want to see a video on mendicant bias over a fucking again that kind of of yeah but I always know when that happens though because one moment you'll be talk about I'm saying and it's just like I never talk about it again it's just like
Starting point is 01:27:06 you've done same with all their memes and shit too like mama I'm still on mama like I was playing Celeste and you can name your character and I named them mama you still haven't gone over your corgi phase yet that's not a phase I see to stay okay then that's that's an issue I've got an issue of that Alex I might have to not be friends of you anymore it goes against what you've seen damn I don't
Starting point is 01:27:35 I go through phases everyone does sometimes I'm just like I've got to listen to nine inch nails every day and I'm like I'm not listening to it anymore and I'm out of later I'm like I'm gonna listen to it no the phases I go in and out from
Starting point is 01:27:51 it's sleep without ASMR two months later sleep with ASMR all the time that's it That's my phases. Yes, weird, but... Wow. That's my thing.
Starting point is 01:28:05 Now we go. We did a big chunk today. We do. You know, that's the glory of the Alex X. James. Yeah. Thanks for all the good questions, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. And supporting the show in anywhere you can.
Starting point is 01:28:18 We'll make videos, you know. We've got some stuff in the lines. I have some good ideas for vids, but I can't do I-G-and-J-J-and-J-all, not all of it at the same time. I know, we've actually got a video that's done, that we made ages ago that we're going to upload at some point. But we should let that age. Yeah, the smash video. Yeah, the smash video. We've got that.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Yeah, still haven't edited it. But that takes the time to edit and stuff, you know. Maybe when Jim gets back, you can learn to edit or something. We'll just throw it out of him. Just don't say anything. Be like, Jim, do it. And Jim will be like, fuck off. Fine.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Yeah, so thanks for watching everybody. We'll catch you on next time. I hope you have a good next week. you know everything goes well so yeah we'll catch you next time bye bye bye

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