JAR Media Posdact - AB to the NORMAL - JARCast Episode 341
Episode Date: September 4, 2023https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Find us on Spotify and iTunes under: "Jar Media Posdact" Find the original episodes under: "The JARChive" Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter:... https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 06:35 Housekeeping 16:27 Is TikTok ruining live music? 28:42 The Ai Invasion ain't Goin So Well 37:13 Mid Break 37:50 Question Segment: JAR Saw Trap 40:47 Why do women read more than men? 46:49 Who is the most ticklish? 49:42 Stable or Passion 57:51 James Gunn Old Posts Get Him In Trouble Again 1:06:08 They're Talking About Rebooting Halo... Again 1:16:18 Armoured Core Thoughts 1:30:42 Jim & James Discuss The Dunkey AC Review
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Good afternoon, morning, evening on night, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 431 of the Jarmed Media podcast.
4.3.1.
I said it.
4.3, 2, 1. Go.
Let's go.
4, 3, 2, 1, go.
4301, go.
I am.
I did something, okay
I have given up on the mullet
You've given up on the mullet?
What have you not given up on then?
What do you mean what haven't I given up on?
If you've given up on one thing,
what have you replaced that giving up with, with, with, with?
Something not to give up on.
Like?
Well, I don't give up on a lot of things.
Okay, so what have you replaced the thing you've given up with
with the thing you've embraced?
Well, I've embraced many things.
Like?
It's hard to explain it.
It's hard to put in a little box.
How would you solve said solution then?
There's no solution.
I'm just letting my hair go curly, if that's what you mean.
That is what I mean.
Yeah, as you can see, my hair isn't actually going into its curly form,
so I'm letting it do its thing.
Can we make this, like, the shadow boxing episode?
Yes, Jim gets it.
I don't need a shadow box.
Yeah, like there's a shadow when you're like,
Yeah, you know.
I'm not going to say that.
I don't want to be like dark
from my favourite anime, Death Note.
What's his name, Light and Dark?
Is it Light and...
Who?
You got light, you got...
L.
L is Light?
L for loser.
Wait, is it L and Light?
Are they the two characters named
L and Light?
Or is it...
Ayanamire.
That's a different show.
A better show.
I think so.
No.
Then there's Berserk.
Have you actually started watching Berset?
I put it in my PC.
Yeah.
Put it in my CD drive.
Go to open it and it's like,
sorry, can't read.
It has a Blu-Way.
I thought I had a Blu-ray player on my PC,
but I'm going to have to watch it on my idiot consoles.
Was that an actual intro or do I have to actually intro it?
Do you have an intro?
Bro, I live for the intro.
Good afternoon, morning, evening,
or nights, ladies and gentlemen,
and welcome to episode 3.
341 of the Jammeetia podcast.
I am James and I'm joined with by Alex and Jamie.
What? We're the number one.
Flashlight podcast.
Yeah, or life.
Tenga podcast.
Or belief?
Truth.
True believers.
Uh, um, seasoned.
Experimentations.
If your mind.
charm media do you think it's rude the point um it depends on the pointing like
like one of these oh that's rude yeah that's rude like if I look at
oh oh no but if you're adding an oi okay well you're okay no let me take the
oil away okay okay this is the thing I I emote with my hands a fair bit
like in conversations with people and I found that I feel I worry that I come
across as rude because I do point a fair
bit but it's never obviously you gotta learn what the politicians do where they
they shift to this and they go oy I don't want to be a politician like my
pointing's fine because it's never like rude but I worry I am because I do point a lot
do an example of what you mean if someone if someone's like like says some
something awesome you know you're fucking right on that one yeah and you're like
let me let me do two examples for you you and you're
beliefs are wrong.
No, let me do this.
You and your beliefs are wrong.
See, I really like the second one.
See?
There's a reason they do that.
Yeah, you come across as like a really genuine, really sort of caring.
Like I'm in control.
Yeah, you're in control.
Like, I should submit like 20% of my...
Ely earlings, yeah, yeah.
To you for doing nothing.
Yeah.
And you should be able to get away with committing tax fraud.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And all it takes is one of these.
Yeah, just pull that finger in.
Just pretend you're shooting in Glock.
Take that foot, make a gun, pull it in, and then put the thumb down.
Yeah.
So like get a gun, I'm not white.
Get the gun, cock it.
Cock it.
That's not called the trigger.
Pull the trigger.
And then you're a politician.
Oy, hey, no more of that.
You deserve nothing.
I deserve more.
I should have more.
I should have more.
than you for doing less. I went to university and
fucked a pig. Bleep that. I can't believe that. It's gone. I lost the bleep sound
effect. Good. Thank you. Um, finally. I need to go get my balaclav file. Okay,
download the sound effect of the guy from Revenge of the Sith saying fire, fire.
Oh, that's an actual thing. Fire, fire! So before we get too deep,
into the episode I want a shout at the Jarm Media patrons they make the audio version of the show possible and they get their names right out in the first or second week of each month that's going to be next week because we weren't organized enough this week thanks to this mother right here
fire fire what have we done do you know what I've noticed recently yeah this this this piece of her is in my vision sometimes wow that's how far I had to get before I got the snip snip you know we
So it's like, I've been walking around
and this would be a little jiggle on my head
and it's like, damn, my hair's long.
I saw a comment that was like,
Can't wait for Alex and James to swap around.
Yeah, there's a comment about like trading hairs.
Yeah.
What do you mean by that?
What do you mean by that?
Like the Simpsons, when Homer gets snakes,
oh, that's a great episode.
That is a great episode.
You've got controlled by him.
Yeah.
I'm snake now.
A hindee.
Shadow Moses.
Well, I'll tell you what's like a hindee, and that's the housekeeping segment.
House day.
Hind house.
Hind house.
Okay.
We round off the conversations from the previous episode, just like Kino K did.
Who says, James going from, I'm an experienced man when it comes to diarrhea, to,
It's a Sciop. I've never had diarrhea.
It's the funniest stuff to me.
No, no, no, no.
Let me explain this.
I've had many a diarrhea times,
but the current rear building site up is not real.
I say it constantly and I never get diarrhea.
Sure.
You never say it.
I've never heard you say it.
I say it in private.
My poo might not be 100% to 100% of the time,
but it's never diarrhea.
It's just a little bit, dare I say, funny.
well as if we're talking about funny stay schmallow says petition to colloquially refer to Alex's house as the diarrhea building oh yeah what do you think of that
i think that's kind of awesome they've got 124 likes that's a few likes that's an actual that's enough likes where you've got to
respect you got to take a step back and be like that's enough likes to really think about and respect
yeah if you build us if you get if you order a plaque online that says the we're building put it on the front of your
So when you get, on all of your accounts, you don't have to put nine or ten or whatever, like your location, you put the rear building, Melchham, Swindon.
Yeah, everyone knows the rear building.
Yeah, it's just the weir building.
Everyone's going to find it.
Well, we got a dark one from Dilan 8664.
Hyja, a bit of a bummer, but I have to get this off my chest since I relapsed recently.
I'd been clean for four years now.
I hadn't even thought about using again until I watched the new jar episode.
I felt the cold sweats and headaches coming on, and I knew it was that time again.
I ran upstairs into my room and opened the safe where I'd stored my last pill.
The one I swore I'd never take, but I took it anyway.
And the relief I had was impalpable.
I then casually walked to the toilet and diarrhea spluged.
All the matter out of my body.
Been so long since I took a laxative, though.
I'm ashamed to say I re-elapsed.
I've never had a laxative.
Because I'm so fucking relaxed.
I've never had a laxative.
Do you know what happened to me?
You haven't had a laxative, but you've got a
fable.
A supplement.
I've had, I've had the poo,
the ass capsules.
Funny experience.
Sticking cold things up your ass,
quite amusing.
Quite nice.
It's really nice.
What are you saying, brother?
I've got a fable.
Okay, for everyone.
Like an ASOP one.
Yes.
Asoft?
Yes.
An ASOP.
Aesop's fable.
Much like you guys, I've never had a
a laxative.
Hmm.
I have.
Oh.
Yeah, because
when I have my nose,
yeah,
you were blocked up
and you needed prune juice.
Prune juice isn't...
No, no,
I had prune,
but I also had like actual laxatives.
Pee juice.
And they didn't work,
did they?
Poop pills.
Oh, Bari, at work.
I thought your struggle
was that none of it
was working until you,
you sent it on the prune juice.
I had prune and laxative.
And it was the most,
it was the greatest relief
of my entire life.
Was it diarrhea?
Is it liquid?
It was beyond anything
I could verbally describe
If I'm being honest
You should have filmed it
I should have filmed it
You should have taken a picture at least
Yeah
You never would have forgiven me
No I've got an Asob fable
Go on that's an Aesop fable
It's got like a warning
You know the rhino
He's got the sand in his skin
You know
You know that one then you
That was always my favourite
Aesop's fable
Yeah
I'm looking sorry
I'm interrupting what you're saying
So
You guys heard of
Candy Kittens
Oh those
Those Rio little producers
Yeah
They're like vegan sweeties
Quite tasty
Quite expensive
They're like zero sugar
They are expensive
Yeah
Maybe it wasn't candy kittens
But it was a sweet
It was a type of sweet
With zero sugar
Yeah
Those give you the worst Rio of them all
Well it was three packs
You had three in a
weird or something.
It was some sort of deal
where you get through.
There was absolutely no candy can't
so they're like what a pack is free
well no it wasn't
I'm exaggerating
certain you know
elements of the story
but I bought three packs
of sugar free sweeties
from Sainsbury's
and ate all three
right
how big good of packs
they were like
average sweetie sized packs
you have like a fucking mini pack
We're talking, like...
You had like a shit ton of...
You know, like, the classic Sainsbury's back in the day, three for a quid?
Those both, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that sort of size.
And I ate all three, as you do,
when you're getting a three-time-a-deal.
And...
Well, the rest is history, you know?
I sat down and reared for a long time.
Today is what I'm saying.
Little did I know, it actually says.
on the pack of a lot of sugar-free items that are sweet.
Like, excessive consumption could cause a laxative effect.
They say that about chewing gum even.
Yeah, I think that that should be like the name of the product.
Poohs, poo bite.
How many people read the backs of like sweets?
I do, I do sometimes.
I mean, I think all three of us do, but like how many human beings do?
How many?
The average normal.
Normal, yeah, normal.
How many normals?
Take a normal and measure the normal.
Yeah.
How many normals are reading the backs of wine gums, you know?
See, this is a good thing about statistics is everyone's normal.
So you don't need everyone's opinion, need one person's opinion, because they're normal.
The general public is one person, and they're normal.
You don't need a thousand person of view, you've got one normal.
Once you have normal penned, you can build out everything around.
it.
Create the ab to the normal.
Be ab.
Yeah. Ab.
What?
No, carry on.
Johnny Tuxin,
6281 says,
Whenever I'm being reminded of your ages,
it always surprises me.
I never expected diarrhea
to be the talk of the month
or a discussion
on what or James's
poo looks like the most.
When you guys are like 25 years old,
keep up the good work,
poop boys.
None of us is.
None of us, none of us anywhere near 25.
We're pushing 40.
We've been around the block a few times.
Yeah, be real, like, what it, I'm about to turn,
be real, be real, about being 30, what is that on, on, like, internet age?
That's like, what, 50, 60?
That's, that's in hospital on, like, and life care.
Like, a Zoom is going to be like, that's boomer.
Yeah, yeah, weird.
See, I'm not at that age yet.
So I'm Boomer.
So what are you?
I'm Boomer.
No, these TikTok kids, man, they're like 10 and they get angry at us because we're too old.
It's over.
Yeah.
Our internet age is over.
Try living, bitch.
Yeah, wait until you get a job.
Yeah.
Then you really just really want to not.
The Enigma really wants us to not.
The Enigma 2897.
No, but following up on that one, what do people,
expect a bunch of
26 and 30-year-old men to talk about on a podcast
political problems
money, grinding
grinding, building your
women, yeah
high value men, high value women
yeah, maximizing
how to get a Lamborghini
your proffit rolls
why the woke is bad
yeah like come on
begaties
it's better to talk about shit
yeah
genuinely
yeah yeah
Yeah
Our poo
Makes us more unique
And better people
Than the grinds out of all these
Name
Name one
Pooh podcast
Name one
I know one
Kind of funny
Come on Greg Miller
Come on the jarcast
See how you fare
I'm with you on that
Who's Greg Meller
I'm gonna back you up on that
Yeah
yeah
come on tristan tate
see how you feel
the uh the enigma
2897 says Alex
I'm begging you please translate my typos
when you read my questions
I clearly meant Jim
not gin
why did you always
why do you always do me dirty like this
I'm sorry like whatever you write
I'm gonna read
Alex isn't gonna put the work in for you
if the text is wrong I'm gonna read
whatever you've written
you have plenty of time to edit
make it right
yeah
we're not you're not your
QC
if you call Jim gin
I'm gonna call him gin
I know it's wrong
but I'm gonna prove you
right
did you spell it DJ I am
no he spelled it J I N
J I N
Jinn
shut up
just add a D next time
that's what I thought
DIN
no gin
the J silent Dinn
guys i got a couple things i want to mention to you
okay prove it
i got two things
yeah two phenomena i got to ask your opinions on
uh-huh
so it feels like forever ago now i went to go see
the band tv girl in london right
who's tv girl right they're this band right yeah
you don't actually like them oh in like 2014 i got into them
like this indie band
doing all this stuff right
losing a lot of samples that was their jam
right right yes oh so they don't actually
make music 2020 2020
they go viral on TikTok
right Alex like TikTok music
yeah so now they're
revisionist history alone now they're huge
I go to London I see one of their shows
and this phenomena
exists right something that
I find kind of disturbing
kind of
kind of kind of
I don't know
I guess my boomer nature
means I don't know how to
pass this
I don't know how to break this down
Okay explain in love it
Your purpose
Yeah so check this out right
Imagine a band
They go viral on TikTok
When they do a live show
Every single single
That is like a TikTok
Hit right
Every single one of those
When they play them
The crowd they're energized
They got their phones out
They're loving it
But every time it's not a TikTok
hit. They are visibly bored, uninterested. Don't have their phones out. They're standing there
waiting for the next TikTok hit. So you get this bizarre vibe, a live show, where it's like all
these like people waiting for the next TikTok hit, not even really caring about what's being
played, just waiting for the trend. It was like really bizarre because I've seen them one other
time before, kind of like right on the verge when they were getting all viral on TikTok and stuff.
And it was like a really good, small scale show.
It wasn't quite this level.
But seeing them this time, it was like,
it was like a switch being flicked on or off.
It was like, is this a TikTok one?
Is this not a TikTok one?
Because if it is, the crowds there, they're engaged.
If it's not, they're probably browsing TikTok themselves.
Yeah, that to me just sounds straight up cringy.
Because that's all, yeah, it is cringy.
It's already one of my, like, kind of icks, I guess you'd say.
It's like people who, well, they go to live shows and they just record.
the whole thing they have their phone up like this
when you go to a live show you're going there for the actual
vibe which is like everyone's kind of everyone likes the band
everyone's just listening everyone's just vibing just chilling
because it's like if I go to like when we went to see guerrillas
it's just like there's a lot of songs which I'd not really listened to
and might not have liked but because of the atmosphere I'm like yeah this is good
this is everything about it's great so see having these like
TikTok kids with that kind of vibe oh it's almost I want to say
gatekeep
I think they make the experience of that show worse.
But that was part of what made it so crazy was that the actual band members themselves,
especially the lead singer,
he had palpable contempt for the audience.
For that specific TikTok audience, he was like,
they recently released this album, right?
Not kind of on the same level as their previous stuff,
using a lot of samples of like,
kind of more biblical, religious-sounding sounds.
it's not popping off the same way their usual older stuff that people on TikTok know
it got to that part in the show where it's like i feel obligated to play this new stuff i know you're
not going to like it blah blah blah blah blah i'm doing it anyway because for my insanity
he's verbalizing this stuff wow and then plays his new song everyone's just like standing there
waiting for the TikTok hit to come out yeah that is sad yeah i feel sort of that's that yeah how do you
passed that though like it's 20 20 something you made six years ago starts trending on
ticot getting literally hundreds of millions of plays all this money coming in from this
thing you made in a different part of your life what do you do about that what can you do
about that well it sounds like they did the right thing like by still playing their new stuff
and not caving yeah they even despite the audience reaction yeah they play
played their new stuff they played the old stuff but they verbalized their feelings like that
that is part of like and i think especially a live show like how the artist feels in that moment like
yeah like you but the fact that you picked up on it like gives it value yeah but that's the thing
though it's like the the lead singer of tv girl very dry individual like the stuff he's bringing
He's making jokes like, yeah, I was hanging out with my boy, Harry Stiles.
Obviously, he hasn't.
He makes that joke on stage.
People start cheering, acting as if Harry Stiles is about to come on stage.
It's like, that's not, no, it doesn't make sense.
That makes it funnier, though.
That does make it funny, but it's also like a, it's just a weird position, I feel like, for an artist to be in.
Like, what are they supposed to do?
because the expectation is obviously to play the TikTok hits
because you're going to get
you're going to get that crowd response
you're going to get the audience response
but then you also made music recently
and you want to be playing your new stuff
you don't want to live in 2014 or whatever
yeah
just an absolutely bizarre phenomenon
that like it's quite it's quite a recent thing
you know like yeah
like stuff going crazy on TikTok is quite a new phenomenon
it's hard to know though like if an artist back in the day
had like released albums and stuff and a few of their songs were on the radio you know and then
people turn up to hear the radio songs so they've got all this other stuff like there was a jab
at one point where Kate Bush had played back in the day she'd done a show at the same venue
and he brings it up to say oh yeah Kate Bush did an awesome show here back here in the day
you probably know her from Stranger Things but before that she was
this amazing artist type thing you know mm-hmm i think i think this isn't necessarily a new
phenomenon i think it's i think it is just because of the context of tictock i mean it is to a degree
but like if it in it i think it's an a new thing since the start of radio
hmm you know but but like the tic to the ticot thing is separate to radio there
our counterpoint here is most normal people would be like they're on the radio doing their
office job garage whatever they hear this song by this person playing now they like that song they're like
oh i like that song i'm gonna go to cd shop record shop and buy that album because i might like more of it
yeah and that means that person's now listened to that whole album so if they like that artist they're
gonna like all their stuff so that wouldn't happen and from the people i've talked about from that era that
that's how they did it it was like yeah there was an inherent familiarity because to consume
more of like one song it had to be encapsulated with that album instead of saving that one song
so it yeah it's definitely different in that regard yeah but i don't know i feel like the internet
slash ticot though changes the dynamic in a way that like just the radio doesn't
I think the radio was huge though
You know you didn't have like
Dudes and fucking
I feel like it's more open now though
Like something trending on the radio
Needed to go through certain channels
Where something trending on TikTok
I feel like it's a different
Barameter you know
There's like no
It's not filtering beyond just what like people are like
Instead of like going through producers
Going through radio producers like
Oh that's the sound like
I'm gonna put that on my channel on the radio
But there's like
of that now I just say it's weird and I think that it's now like this is the
repercussions from the TikTok generation that everything's gonna become like
that yeah well that's the thing like um what's his face the it's one of the
lill's um peep not peep peep pump the one that uses all the devil imagery and
he's like always controversial for using like devil imagery even though he's gay as
fuck and little little little
i don't think little nas
yeah yeah yeah um so like he
when you know the old town road song
he specifically formulated that song
using lyrics that would get wedged into algorithms
about like driving tractors and stuff like that
that algorithms will pick up promote in certain ways
it affects the art
but that song is also fucking fire
just saying
well yeah I'm not saying
as a critique as it I'm just saying
now that's like another variable
to measure in this
where it's like
well how do you accommodate for the people
that are kind of ahead of the curve
figuring out like
what algorithms are picking up
and promoting
if you're like writing a song
with that in mind
putting in lyrics that you know
are going to get picked up
in algorithms and promoted
and like maybe
they will be push more to kids
because it's talking about driving tractors
and these kind of buzzwords
that are going to be picked up.
It's more about riding horses, isn't it?
Take my horse.
Yeah, yeah.
But why would that matter?
Because I think...
I think it is reductive to art, though.
It is.
Whether it's a good song or not.
It's like,
are you expressing yourself
or chasing what makes money?
It was a weird phenomenon.
Like, I've seen a fair few live shows.
and I've never had that where it's like such a like switch on switch off depending on the TikTok
I think that's that's like a symptom of phones so I remember hearing about um jack white yeah was was doing
live shows but he had like a policy that was like you can't take your phone in you have to relinquish
your phone on entering and that's such an awesome idea because it's like then you don't have the
option to just like check out yeah or like view it through i give myself a rule i allow myself
one photograph i try and condense like a live show into one photograph because you see people who
they're on face time for the whole show they're holding their phone up yeah someone on face time
and they're just like what are you what are you doing yeah yeah we're we're losing like an element
of story it's the most boomer take all it's just like you're not experiencing life because
you're experiencing it for your phone but like sometimes the the telling of a story is I mean
I'd say more times than not telling a story is more interesting than just reliving that story
through like a video a beat-to-beat yeah no room for interpretation no room for anything new like
yeah because there were a few of those too like there were a couple moments where some zoomer
would like they'd get their friend to hold their phone and then get into some kind of pose
They get their flash on, and then they do some TikTok thing, record it,
and then they're like, okay, that's enough of that for the TikTok.
It's like, what, what do you, what do you do it?
It's like people aren't, people don't go do things now for, they like this artist,
they're going to go watch this show because I like them.
It's doing everything's to do with quick TikTok algorithm.
You're doing a post because that post will get engagement because it's with ex-Tick-Tick-Tac artist.
It becomes about like the individual.
instead of the event
yeah it's like everyone's there for the event
but all these people are like trying to
and on that on that kind of note
like this weird technology thing
where we're grappling with right now
at this bizarre moment just a couple days ago
I wanted to
I wanted to get a dinner reservation for two
at this place right
I call up
never experienced this before
it was an AI thing
for a restaurant
which you know when you call up
a E or one of these
an automated message system
divert you to divert which I'd never
experience outside of like phone companies
maybe banks stuff like that
because this was the first time I'd heard it
for a local restaurant
so like you're not talking to a person
when you're trying to make your reservation
so you say what time
you say how many people that air
has this like awkward engagement thing and it's like cool yeah two people booked in for
five o'clock nice show up at that time the place is closed um um like it didn't even like
no but did you not check when trying to find the restaurant the on the google it'll tell you it's
no it said on google open call up to make it
reservation. It's an AI. You talk to the AI, make a reservation. Yeah, this is kind of a problem
with like early adoption of these technologies. You know, like, we're not there yet. No. We can't just
like chat with chat GBT and be like, well, that's a human. It's like irritating enough
when it is a bank. Yeah. It's already annoying. Yeah, but they're having a stable bank. So we shouldn't
talk about that. But that's bad enough. But then it's like a local restaurant. Yeah. Mandate.
them hungry fam yeah
man damn hungry fam
that was like that was that was such a weird
like uh grounding moment like
this technology has been
instituted this way
and it doesn't even work it doesn't even make sense
yeah
do you buckle up brother
this is only the beginning
but I do
uh stepping aside from the AI
voicemail
uh
we need to
to gate keep TikTok like what do you mean it's really too late but like we're we're
boomers doesn't even matter it does no I know I know we can't do it but it's like the
TikTok era is is ruining everything yeah like I walk past shops on like high streets and
they've got like TikTok stickers that they've put on their windowsill and they're like
as seen on TikTok I'm done man I don't like TikTok I
this war is over we've lost we've lost yeah we're on the
losing side of this. It's just like...
It's done.
No.
No, it is like you can go from being this obscure indie band that no one cares about
to selling out a place in central London
just because of something trending on TikTok.
Just never, as a human being,
you should never ever trace any, chase any trends.
Because you'll, you've lost yourself by chasing trends.
can you avoid it there you i've never chased a trend of my life yeah you you make it you you
have this thing called free will and you you choose to to chase the trend on art you make that
active bro you play monomorphette too you're playing armor call right now what you're playing
i'm a call right now that's a trending topic i i i didn't buy it because the trend i bought it
because i like mex because i've watched neon genesis evangelical there it is there's the name drop
Hey, I've got the crota.
I've got the quota.
That's, that's, we're not going to get into the fucking marketing thing.
We've already argued about that today.
Marketing is a banned phrase on this.
Neon Genesis does need to be as well.
Yeah, that needs to be banned.
But I just, it's just like my, my only grass with the TikTok communities,
through cars and whatnot, and I just have no, no motivation to even connect with any of it.
It's going to affect your space at some point, Barry.
It's going to happen.
If you own any social media other than TikTok, you've already been affected.
I have, but I don't try to.
Yeah, but it is inherently addictive.
It's like, it's manufacturing your dopamine.
I think this is China getting back at us for the opium.
Yeah, but America didn't do that. We did.
Yeah, exactly. It's targeted at the UK.
Yeah, but they've mainly got a bunch of American dopamine.
Yeah, but they, but where do we get our entire culture now?
The USA, you know?
Stranger things, Netflix.
Flood opium, TikTok, into America, and then it will trickle back to the UK.
There's their revenge.
You know, we're all on opium.
You know, what's that, that...
TikTokium.
You know, that meme that goes on is like the, uh, that quote from Wise and Vengeance.
Well, social media.
Like, man, what is it?
There's a whole speech from like a US Senator President and he does like name jobs like the the shit of like celebrity gossip
with Rydenin in from the Metal Gear series just drops truth bombs about the future the future back then which is now about like our reality it's so true like experience that stuff I can find the quote I'll find the quote
are dystopian nightmare you mean
but about like
just social media being
just like swamped with
pointless information
so that like the actual
important stuff going on in the world
can happen without us
batting an eye you know
it's like if the Ukraine war
isn't trending on TikTok
and all the social media is no one gives a shit
yeah fuck this 24 7 internet
spew of trivia and celebrity bullshit
is a quote from that game
Yeah, but he goes on and on about, like, everything.
Yeah.
Oh, that's the villain of...
Rising Revengeance, the cyborg one.
The big guy.
Senator Armstrong.
Yeah.
What a cracking guy.
He's right.
I hate Slophearsie gossip, man.
Can't give a fucking shit about it, man.
But that's what, like, so much of everything is.
It's just, like, conversation.
I just don't...
But, like, Kim Kardashian.
getting a divorce with Kanye West is the same level of like engagement as a war between two
giant countries. If not a higher potentially. Yeah, probably. Yeah. It's like we care more about
that. Like America doesn't even need to stage terrorist attacks against themselves to get a point
anymore. They just got to make some gossip online. Yeah. They just have to have Kanye get sucked
That's the crazy thing about like
You saw the Trump
The Trump mugshot obviously
Yeah yeah
Like that apparently has done like
It raised millions of dollars
For his campaign
Because they could sell merch with it on
It's like this new boost
Yeah
It's just the classic
No such thing as bad press
Man dad
But living in a cabin
Away from this shit
That's dusty I do man
That's all that fucking want
I want
I want the bunker man
Yeah
I want to have, I want to have, like, FromSoft's entire library in a bunker.
Yeah, you know, keep you coming for a while.
And like every, every, uh, controller ever made, so that when you do one, one with an Xbox controller, you can do it with a dance mat.
And you can play every phone soft game with loads of, like, that's how you control the difficulty, yeah.
Yeah.
And you'll, you'll be occupied forever.
You don't need this shit.
Yeah, man.
Check out of reality.
apply yourself to
non-reality
I suppose
to incorrectism
and on that note
we'll see after these incorrect messages
no they're correct
no they're not correct
they're the one thing that's true
marketing doesn't work
yeah
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ladies and gentlemen
welcome to this episode of the jar media
second half of the show where we answer
JAR media questions from the JAR Media Reddit.
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Well, I guess this is the part of the show.
We head over to the JARMedia subreddit
where you can ask questions for us to answer
in any episode in the future
just like revert to monkey did who says
if you were setting up a sore trap tailored for each member
of the cast what would be the most fitting torture
for each of you to endure
if you guys want to have to think
our slash jar media said in response to this
for James it would be a clockwork orange style
torture method forcing him to watch a TV screen
playing time-lapses of his favourite bread going off slash mouldy
well it isn't a sword trap's just to kill you
my idea was kind of similar to that
but it was actually finishing Evangelion
or I would
fucking I would kill myself even if I was
it was a torture door so do it fucking hell
imagine watching 20 you know the pain
imagine watching 24 fucking episodes of that in one sitting
yeah
suicide
Hmm
So you've got to think of
Something you did
Back in the past
Like
I want to play a game
You killed a fly
When you were 10 years old
And now
It's time for revenge
Yeah
You know
Pushed Jamie in a river
That would be mine
You almost pushed him in a river
Yeah
Watch evangelian
Um
Hmm
For Alex
What wrongs have you done
killed a bug that time
you um
okay here it is
you you have to take
many laxatives
but not rear
oh you have to hold it in
horse fed weir tablets
yeah and you've got to last as long as you can
before you wear type thing you've got to hold it
but if you poop
then
three saw blades
from the bottom
up
slowly cut you in half
my challenge
my saw trap for gym would be
you gotta go one hour
without referencing DJ Khalid
um
bring up the saw chains
tell him to bring up the syringe
otherwise there's some device that like tears you in two
oh you get your ass spread
nice
like a lobster
oh
and a live lobster will go up
Get lobsted.
Unless you can resist.
Yeah.
Tell them to bring out the lobster and then, you know.
Yeah, good, good idea.
I hadn't actually referenced DJ Khaled all episode until.
Yeah, because it's all outside.
Isn't it, James?
No, we never mentioned DJ Khalid.
It's all outside.
It's not about DJ Khaled.
It's about Gabonino.
Fearless Caramel 3-37 says,
Bear Bear Jar Jar, I recently learned that women make up a disproportionate amount of book readers.
As a woman myself, I wonder why there is. Thoughts on this crap. Bear Bear out.
Men are too stupid to read.
Coltrane 16 replied to it saying,
For men, the time that it takes to read books is taken up with more important things.
Like recording eight-hour podcast episodes to discuss casting choices in an upcoming comic book movie that no more care about.
in a week
after it comes out.
So true.
I like reading,
but my problem is...
I like Ria thing.
I like reading, okay,
but my problem is I can't get...
I can't hyper-focus myself on a book.
But I can, however,
hyper-foke myself,
focus on like a Wikipedia article
about some fucking general in...
Yeah, I can't focus on anything
that isn't, you know,
Starfield tips and tricks.
Yeah.
I like reading.
I like reading, um...
I like reading.
Uh, bro, shut the fuck up.
I've, I've always struggled with, um, my brain.
Mm-hmm.
I think, I think men, men's brains are like...
Monkeys.
Yeah, and it's like...
We have monkey brain.
We've, we've been provided tools, you know?
Hmm.
Like, I want to, like, hit a thing.
into another thing, you know?
I want to, I want to, like...
You're saying there has to be a knock-on effect?
Yeah, I want to, like, throw a big boulder
and it, like, goes down a hill
and then makes other boulders.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I get you.
Men are simple creatures.
Yeah.
Stick.
It's like the stick.
I love sticks.
Yeah, sticks rock.
It's like, you find a good stick.
That's true.
We used to have our sticks.
I've got a stick.
I've got it stored
I've got it stored
It's like when you go for a long walk or hike
You're gonna find a cool stick
And you're gonna carry that
I saw that there was like
There was like some kind of subreddit post
That was like from a woman
Who was like
Yeah I saw it
What a dude's weird obsession with sticks
What is their problem
And I'm here like
Yeah it was about her husband
Her like son getting a stick
And then her husband hiding it in the car
So when they got back
The kid had the stick
Like I'd do that
You know
It's like, you know, digging sand on the beach.
Their monkey brain is just like, ooh, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And if you get a sturdy stick and you can, like, feel the...
Should I go get it?
Go get it.
Go get it.
You guys will instantly understand what is appealing about this stick.
But I know I will.
I might already know the stick you're talking about, actually.
It's like, no, do you know what's a good thing, though?
Guys find his good fucking sticks.
He found the stick where it was a part of a root.
So at the top of it kind of curves in,
and it has this root here.
and it's really well curved and it's like a nice sturdy one.
So it's like when you throw it, you feel the way and it fucking goes.
And it's like, Guyas, you understand, you know the good sticks and pound of you.
Mm-hmm.
Something about like throwing a stick.
Yeah.
Okay, let's discuss this.
Oh, oh, oh, that is a really...
Look at that.
Look at that.
The nice thing here is you can see there, the cut there and where the wood grain is, is very, very nice.
Oh, it's been in there for years.
Is it smooth?
Can I, can I rub the...
Let Jim have a go.
Can I raise it off?
I know, I know that's good to feel.
Mm-hmm.
It's like the perfect, like, girth as well.
The length is very, very nice.
It's solid.
I think it's why, um...
Can I just grip it a minute?
Mm, yeah, grip it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the...
I think it's why, like, knights existed.
You know?
Because, like, a sword.
Oh.
Can you imagine, like, being a knight back in the day and being, like,
this is your sword, and then holding that.
being like
well that that was before nights
that was like
old school I think it is just
yeah there is
there is just an
it's like it doesn't
even if you're in a horrible war zone
yeah you see a stick
you're going for the stick
and I know the thing is
if someone else sees you get the stick
they get I understand
yeah
it's a language
you for the stick
yeah there's a language
beyond
he think so we'll never be able to explain
but you get it
everyone else are listening
they can see this
and they're like, while the men watching,
no, they can see this and they know, that's a good stick.
If you are listening, either go on the video
or just imagine the best, most satisfying stick.
It's almost a perfect stick, but I have a preference to sticks.
I like the ones that have been part of a woot at some points,
they have the intertwining parts,
because that's like a, it's like a club.
You've got that heavy, meaty bit at the end.
And when you throw that, it fucking goes.
And it's like when you want to smash something
or hit it against something,
the weight is perfect
but this is more like a slender build
this is like a dexterity
you know
yeah yeah yeah
and I do like a more heavier hitting stick
but this is a nice stick
the only
the only criticism which doesn't take away from it
is the fact that it feels like
that much longer
I think it'd be perfect
yeah I get you
just because
you know and it's a good thing
about having a dog is they find
they find a variety of sticks
and sometimes they come across
a gold mine and and those sticks
you know
I almost become sentimental to them
because when Geis gets a stick
and he gets a good one
like guys don't lose this one please
that's a good stick
you need that one
yeah and he doesn't chew them up
because you know with dogs
it's like dogs know when a stick
is prime
no no it's like when they're bad
and they're too soft
they tear it apart
as if it's not worthy
so they destroy it
when it's a good one
a good dog knows
not to destroy it
because they'll play fetch of it
and whatnot
yeah keep that stick
it's a good stick
it's a good stick
I'm glad
you showed me your stick.
Yeah, I'm glad I showed you guys as well.
Well, a loose donut 3708 has another kind of controversial one for us.
Who is the most ticklish out of the three?
Or if you don't like that question, how about who's the most squeamish?
Okay, bye, bye, bye, bye, be.
Okay, I'm not squeamish when it comes to, like, bodily harm.
Okay, how about this then?
Everyone put their arm up and the stick goes in the armpit.
There, yeah, you tickle me with the stick.
in the armpit.
Now, Alex is the least ticklish.
He's already known the answer.
Try and tickle me with the, try and tickle me with it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, have you had your fill?
Because I've got to do it back now.
No, no, no.
No, you've got to beat your arm up when I do it back.
No, you've got to do it to gym and Jim do it back.
No, because I'm almost as bad as, I might be as bad as Jim.
Come on, you've got to show.
You've got to prove it.
I'm, I'm terribly ticklish, it's my one weakness.
But you know, it's Jim's done, that's the only...
Well, against me, I'm James.
That's the only priority.
No, because the truth is, put your arm up.
Put your arm up.
The truth is, it's not, it's not the power in the armpit.
It's when you get that, um, that move your hand.
It's this spot right here.
That does nothing.
He-he-ha-ha-ha-ha.
No, my weak spot isn't here, it's here.
it's this like
rib cage area
I hate it
I am a very ticklish
I'm I'm incredibly ticklish
and I get like aggressive
yeah I have tried to tickle you
instantly go to like fight or survive
fight or fight
and it oh
no I hate it
if I get tickled I get overwhelmed by tickling
so I'm like on the floor just like dead
just like just overwhelmed it doesn't make me laugh
it makes me like scream
it makes me laugh
I can't eat it
because it's like the one weakness
it's like getting an argument of someone
if they tickle you they win
it's like that's always there
but how do you win against
someone like me who wasn't really ticklish
beat the shit, fight you actually
fight you
okay yeah
what is the smell of it
smoke it
oh I'd love to bro
oh I'm Genostogi this big
yeah
well that's my dream
God
Lamattie
do you know my
my quote staying on the subject
of sticks.
Obviously
his kids
it would be like
oh it's a gun
so you do
or a wand
from
yeah and it's just
you just want
to put it
in your
you're like
holder
your little guns
and a holder
and I think
that's a
fact
you've got to
consider
when picking
your stick
because if
you can't
like put it
on your back
and I have it
like you know
it's gotta represent
something
yeah
but I think
that's a good
like you know
pocket
supreme
yeah
yeah
yeah
La Matty says
hi gamers
since you asked in the last episode
what Jarlings do for a job
I work for a big boy
architecture firm in London
doing interior architecture
and design for offices
for some huge companies
I'm still very early on in my career
and I've been thinking about something a lot recently
which I'd be interested on your take on
when I was younger my parents
always encouraged me to pursue a career
that was employable and stable
as opposed to more creative industries
that are very hard to get into
I can't help but feel like now I have
a career that others may deem as successful, but I wish they'd encourage me to take a risk in
something I would truly enjoy. But at the same time, if I'd done that and failed, I'd probably
have the opposite opinion. I don't know if any of you are considering having kids in the future,
but I wonder where you would stand on this if you think it's better to encourage a stable
career or something they are passionate about, even if it's incredibly hard to get into. Also,
if there's any other perhaps controversial parenting opinions you may have.
You have a job.
Nothing's preventing you from exploring that creative side in your spare time.
Nothing is.
The only thing that's stopping it is you.
You can always do it.
You might not make it a career, but if you're pursuing an artistic, creative thing, you can do it.
And you should do it.
It's a great thing to do.
I would, yeah, I'd lay the cards out for this hypothetical child and be like,
you basically have a choice, you know?
you can either chase this thing
that might not work out
maybe you might be happier
or you just double down
on the thing you know will provide for you.
So speaking from my own experience,
the concept of jobs
and anything to do of education
and, you know, early adult life,
I had no, there was no even discussion
from my parents about it.
There was no, like, there was no guidance,
there was no, you could do this,
you shouldn't do that.
I was never told anything.
So I basically just,
followed what I had an interest in, and I learned what I want to do through that.
Actually, that's not the way you should do it, but I think it's good to make a kid aware of the real world
and, you know, and money and salary and career progression.
But at the same time, you should never make them limit themselves and their passions and interests
in the complete pursuit of a career.
because ultimately
if you're not happy
it doesn't matter how much you're paid
you're not happy
you should prioritize your happiness
yeah
yeah and you know I've
I've gone into careers
that I would have had an injury
I had like a you know tied to my passion
tied to cars and they made me
fucking depressed they made me miserable
and guess what I left them
and was happy as a result
and I did like a change later in life
where I've gone back to more mechanical stuff
and I'm significantly happy now
because it's now something I do want to do
but you should always always
prioritise a creative
thing. If you have a creative streak
make sure to satisfy it because you won't be
happy about it. Yeah, where that passion lies. What do you think, bro?
I think there's
no problem with
struggling.
Like, you might be
uncomfortable
in certain periods of your life
when you're doing one thing
but like
we're at this point
in in like
humanity's progression
where we have such a luxury
of just being able to do
various things
such a wide variety
and late stage being able to just be like
this isn't doing it for me
me. I'm going to shift into another
like path
and then
you do that and
just go on that journey
if you're fixated on having your
Bugatti and your
mansion
then I mean
do try
but for the rest of us
it's more about like living in that moment
instead of chasing the thing that
you maybe one day
will be able to achieve
I think with all things
it's like you need a healthy balance
no focusing in your career is not a bad thing
because if you are very career
not career driven but dream driven of like
I want to be in this position
that's fine
but if you if that's all you've got
and then you get there what have you got
if you've like sacrificed your passion
your hobbies and everything the pursuit
of that that one thing
and when you have when you've got nothing
It's like you've lost all the interest you had
So it's like getting back in isn't it easy
And then you find yourself like nothing
Yeah
You don't want that
No I totally agree with
With you on this one
Yeah
And I think one thing I say
With all creative pursuits
You can't focus on if it's gonna make money or not
Yeah
Like my creative pursuit does not make any fucking money
And it's never going to
But it's still something I absolutely love doing
So I'm gonna keep doing it
Because I like doing it.
Yeah.
It's about like, it's creating for the sake of creating, not creating so that you get something.
Yeah.
You know?
Well, even if the thing that you get is just some sort of satisfaction that you chase that thing that you care so much about.
Mm-hmm.
You know.
But it's like you're able to do that because you're in a position where you've got a job.
Yeah, I've got financial stability, so it allows me being able to funnel some part of my earnings and whatnot into the creative thing I have going on.
It doesn't matter what your creative thing is.
If it's something you like old episodes of the office or something like that, there's some weird niche thing you enjoy, you can devote a little community to that by just putting in time and research and archiving stuff, you know, magazines.
It doesn't matter what it is
You can always do it in your spare time
I was it I was in I was in the car with someone
And there was the radio was on and they were talking about
The man who is like the number one expert on
Aging Denim
That was his thing
That's his whole niche
It's just like he's dedicated his life to just like
The best type of aged denim
He's just figured out how to do that
He's gooned on it
That's a goon and I fucking was a penman
that's cool yeah that's one of the best things about humanity me
humanity to me every single niche is like filled by someone
being niche guy yeah there's someone who's passionate about this or that
something you can guarantee as well if you are interested in something you are not
the only person there will be someone else yeah at least one other person will be
like a kindred spirit yeah it's the best out of
worst thing about the internet you know yeah because you can find your
community yeah and then you can find out they're all massive twat yeah one thing
is just like with being a boy of a weird dopamine and having like you know that
that weird fucked up dopamine from gooning cod as a kid nothing gives me
more dopamine then connecting with someone who's the niche weirdo like me that's
like that's like a fucking nuclear bomb going off in my head that's like oh you want to
talk about spoilers on these cars.
It's great.
And that feeling is what will motivate you to indulge in that passion more.
And your little creative project you've got going on.
And you should always do that because that's cool.
And dopamine is good.
Well, we got triple left before we round off this episode.
Jay Steria says, hey, jar boys.
You know how you would briefly discussing hot and cold takes a few cast back.
Well, one comes up on my Twitter fee recently.
This is especially hot.
apparently 11 years ago
James Gunn the current co-head
for DC movies revealed
he does not really like Tim Burton's Batman
and he also has some issues with
Nolan Batman as well
certain fans are naturally using these tweets
as evidence that he is not fit for the job
even though his stance may have changed at the time
it took for the maniacs a digger up
given the enthusiasm he displays for DC
slate post-EU
and indeed his forthcoming Superman movie
what do you guys make of this Bebe
cool
But, yeah.
I kind of agree with James Gunn.
Like, I like, I like the Tim Burton Batman movies as movies.
I couldn't even say anything strong, because I haven't seen them since I was a little kid.
I've re-watched, not Batman returns, but just Batman.
Yeah, I watched that semi-recently.
Like a few years ago.
Who was the main Batman in those movies?
Um, you know, uh, you know, fucking
vulture, um, Michael Keaton.
Birdman, yeah, Michael Keaton.
Um, and it's like a good movie.
It's, it's goofy and
fun, but it's, it's not like Batman.
It's not truly Batman thing.
And Christopher Nolan's Batman is absolutely not Batman.
It's lacking in significant aspects.
my my dream is to get like a
a batman arkham sort of vibe
from a batman movie
you know like embrace the
the like goofy ah
the dumbest shit
but but do it like in your stride
so that it's tough to do with a serious tone
because obviously they like dabble in that
with the matman and robin stuff
but that's like a little bit too goofy
yeah that's taking it to like
Deadpool sort of
even beyond that
yeah
it's like you
you need to be aware of what you have
with Batman like
even with the Batman
the latest one it's like the fact of the matter
is this this
billionaire is dressing up as a bat
yeah that's the thing
about that being goofy one is that
that movie there's no goofy aspect of that
to break it.
It's all really edgy, it's guimy, it's, you know.
Yeah.
And to me, it should be, like, goofy, like,
the concept is goofy, like, gory.
Like, Joker's a goofy fucking character.
Yeah.
That's how it is, and that, that, that movie needs a little bit of goofiness.
It needs a silly little snowboarding, a surfing's Joker.
Yeah, it's actually, like, quite a unique challenge for that character.
But, like, even that movie, like, more than,
Tim Burton or Christopher Nolan
Like Christopher Nolan took it
Too realistic
Yeah, quote unquote
Not stylistic enough
It was very
My thing with those is like
The Dark Night holds up
But the ones around it don't as much
Yeah
But even in the Dark Night
It's the city
That's just an ordinary city
Why would someone be pushed
To this ridiculous
Like length
Everything needs to be exaggerated
Yeah
I go about
And that's what I want
So personally
It's like I love
I'm asylum
I do think it's one of the best
You know
imaginations of Batman to me
But the recent Batman
Is like my Batman
Because it's like
He's very much more of like
This edgy younger guy
Who's like
Muscat
Yeah
Yeah that way
They place him in this city
That is like
Just beyond
Like ridiculously
evil beyond corrupt beyond like it it it smells of just yeah stinky poop yeah so it makes
sense why he's a bit angry yeah in that stage of his Batman's there is this bizarre
phenomenon right especially on Twitter there's this whole growing sect of like James Gunn
haters who are yeah they despise him because they they see him as like oh we said
that the Flash was the best comic book movie ever made and it's like
you realize he's being bureaucratic with that stuff right like he just wants to make his
superman movie yeah he doesn't care about the flash that was already done and dusted before he's
even in that position so why are you holding him to that and it's also like yeah canceling him
before guardians of the galaxy three came out and like all these old edgy tweets when he was making
troma films it just seems like you're just trying to find something to hate on him for
yeah it's like i kind of like that more it's like he's just giving it like
people get so conflated with the stakes of things
you know yeah people acting as if this is like this
raging political take that's like
shocking and you should never see him the same way after he said this
when it's like just gave his opinion on the tim burton
and christopher nolan batman movies
it's not high stakes it's an opinion on a fucking movie
from over a decade ago he's a different person now
he has done so much he's changed so much
why are you holding him to this why are you using that as if that's evidence
for anything but also like that that's the whole point you know he was giving his opinion on
like how someone made a movie about a character he likes you know if if i do that it's no big deal
but if i made a movie on it then it's like yeah how day to me it was just more of a reminder of
like oh man like people were just way more flagrant back then 10 years ago like people they
They didn't care about what they were saying.
The hot takes out, it didn't matter.
There was no thought behind, like, can I say this or can I not?
You know what?
I've got an idea.
I think everyone should do it or be involved in it, and it's the yearly clans.
New year.
I think that's what he does now, is like, every, after a certain amount of time,
it just purges the whole Twitter account, resets it.
Yeah, no, honestly, resets it.
If you're not posting anything actually valuable, just fuck it off every year.
I would.
I have.
What is there to live?
lose is like more than what there is to gain so you might as well just reset it every
few months why like what so you have Snyder fans like screenshot in your like out of context
like totally bad faith interpretation of your opinion on a movie like what it's so insane
to me like why do you care that deeply but what what is on my line feet like why do you care that
Like, I just, I care.
This is what I mean.
These people have no stress or anxiety in life.
They're like, I need something.
That's what I'm in my mind.
In my mind, like, no one owns these characters, right?
Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, any of it.
It's just like, we have all these examples of different interpretations of it.
Yeah, we got the Zach Snyder.
We're getting this James Gunn one that's coming out.
We've had the Richard Donner ones.
We've had all sorts of interpretations.
What is the matter?
What, just because he taught shit about it 10 years ago?
okay but like my opinions everyone i i can say this because like my opinions on movies have changed
yeah from back in the day and now what i can look at those same movies and be like oh wow
that actually sucks or that is awesome you know and it whether his opinion has changed or not
doesn't matter but the fact that it can change
like why
hold something that someone said
that amount of time ago
to such a degree
yeah it's nuts
it's so timely online just like
ridiculous
um
while speaking on that
Aussie Eric says this
thoughts on the circulating rumors of the next
Halo game being a complete reboot
so uh
what rumors are these
Ryan McCaffrey
tweeted semi recently saying
something along the lines of
basically
the state of this franchise is so dire
I'm pretty sure the only way to fix it is another reboot
that's not a rumor
that's just someone saying
this is my opinion
Ryan McCaffrey
yeah that just sounds like someone's opinion
that yeah that just sounds like someone's opinion
we started this whole like drama circle
like everything to be fair
the fucking Halo 4 was a reboot
I quote tweeted on my secret Twitter
being like
yes the fourth reboot will fix it
yeah
Halo Infinite was absolutely a fucking reboot
that was the third reboot yeah they don't need it
no the franchise is fucking dead
let it die you've got three
three of the single best
first person shooter games that have aged
perfectly and are perfectly playable right now
fuck all the rest of them you play those three
and you have a good time
you don't need anything else
let IPs die move on
so picture it this way then right
what your Microsoft what do you do with it
is that the answer you just leave it
five years 10 years yeah no you leave it
you just leave it yeah
no kill it
it's already kill bro
yeah it can't be killed and take it
take every single halo game off
get rid no yeah no nuke
nuke 4 5 infinite off the internet
of every store
fuck your dion
because I we're deleting them I get into this cringy fantasy land right where it's like
imagine it marks off they didn't touch halo after Halo reach they just leave it
they let 10 years go by in that 10 years they've been they had this team in the
background working on something and it's ready when it's ready then they announce
something and then it's like they do a teaser with like just some some some
some sands and then it's just
blow me your way
yeah and it's like that was something
and I replay Halo Reach
I was just thinking about Halo as a franchise
it is the most
early 2000s thing
you've got a guy
in his like motorbike
outfit with the
heavy rock playing
with all this goofy shit going on
it's like
insane thinking about now like the way
that all went yeah
look at how they massacred my boy
they massacred my boy
it's like no they just didn't get fucking hanglo
they don't get it they never got it they massacred my boy
but the honestly that is
if they'd have just waited wait wait
past the 80s trend
wait past the 90s trend
wait for that 2000s trend
drop a drop a
Halo game.
Yep.
Suddenly, TikTok fame.
Whereas now I feel like
they're kind of cornered, they're trapped.
How do you reboot it for the fourth time?
How do you do that?
Yeah.
Like, how do you actually do that?
No, this is, no, the, the only logical thing
is, uh, chief, gone.
This needs to be a new,
this needs to be like an ODS where it's,
it's in the, because their world is still interesting.
The world, halo through.
I think they've ruined it, man.
Like, what is left in the world?
They have ruined it.
The, the, where the Halo free.
No, but they can still go back to the humanity's first contact wars of the covenant.
Well, it's like, I still follow all the Halo YouTube channels, right?
And a recent thing was that a book about what the arbiter was doing during Halo Infinite has just come out.
And it's like, fuck you guys.
Yeah, I don't care.
Yeah, like, who actually cares?
It's such a, like, my new...
The stakes were so low since Halo 5.
Yeah.
I don't care.
Honestly, you've killed the unit.
You just need OG
Covenant and you need just a single
story on a squad like Halo each
a standalone experience
that does nothing but add like
interesting stuff to the worlds
and the law of certain things
you can do so much of that
there's a lot of stuff that they
can work on but they're just trying to stick
with the icon of Halo being chief
and they're trying to forge a narrative
with him and he doesn't need one. He hasn't
needed one since he's had his
yeah that's his and it finishes perfectly
Well, I feel like
I think they could have done
like three sequels to Halo 3
with Master Chief as the main character
and done it well.
But their approach was not
that's not how you do it.
Humanising him, making it all about
this like load out systems
and all this like crazy shit like that.
But we'll still understand what you're even making.
ID software managed to reboot fucking Doom
with two great games
and they really were working with fucking nothing
but they managed to do it because they understood the DNA of Doom.
They modernised it, yeah.
Yeah, and sure, they've got all these characters, but they've still got Doom.
That's my crazy thing.
In playing at Halo Reach again, right?
Like, every single conclusion they could have taken away from that,
they took all the wrong ones.
Oh, let's double down on armor abilities and loadouts.
Yeah, the stuff that people didn't like.
The stuff we've already had in spades and experimented with for years,
and everyone knows the ins and outs of.
But it all needed to be was
as a bare bones multiplayer.
That's all they need to go for,
not all the other abilities.
They just didn't get it.
They didn't get help.
I think it's murdered.
I genuinely think it's murdered now.
I don't know what they can possibly.
It's dead.
The IP means nothing.
It means nothing, yeah.
The Halo fans aren't going to like it.
Nobody's going to like it.
They've held it longer than Bungee held it.
the IP like 3 for 3 have held it longer
wow um and i i jett like
anyone who's like 13 14 now
halo's not even in in their periphery they i think they don't care
the world has advanced past halo
so trying to bring it drag it dragging that carcass
that fucking coffin yeah to the modern age in the ticot age
where the the attention span of shit everything has to be micro transactions
you're just defiling that corpse
you're disrespecting
it didn't need to be that way but
what they have chosen to do with it has made
it that way James
was right all along
I've said this before
Hey man you just got to let it die
like I've seen the massacre my boy
that I've seen the massacre
Cod I've seen the massacre hate
like FOSA that's the difference though is that like
Cod like the player base is still there
no but they still be playing it they still be going
But there's so many people now from that area
just like, man, they're saying Cod.
Cod is actually faithful to what it was.
Not really.
I mean, it is.
And now that we're adults, we can be like,
oh, this is bullshit.
Yeah, it's fucking crap.
Yeah.
But they still wound it.
They still defile that corpse.
Yeah, they're still defiling it,
but it's more like...
So like in a different way.
Yeah, they're defiling it in a way
that Microsoft could be defiling Hela
right now. Yeah. Like I really think they
could have kept it alive through spinoffs. I really
think they could have done that easily.
Reusing assets, just doing the
ODST type thing. I think
a lot of people would have been chill and happy with that.
But they couldn't even do that.
Yeah. It's absolutely pathetic and
embarrassing. But let's end on this one.
That just comes down to a capitalist thing of
they need that launch for
you know, fiscal year. And it's
the same if EA, Mass Effect did it with Andromeda.
That's what's even crazier, though, is that they were fiscally supposed to launch within the launch of the Xbox 1.
X, right?
The series X.
But they missed it by a full year.
And even then, it was still scuffed.
It's just like, you need, we're going towards a crash in gaming because it's going, development times is expensive now.
And it's like games are like, people hate them when they come out.
It's going to crash.
This is going to happen.
Well, say, all the, all the franchises I was, like, properly invested in and obsessed with.
They kind of had to exist then and then in the early 2000s.
The Halo games, the mass effects, the Geys of War types, like, you know, Half-Life.
Like, it had to be that era.
It had to be there.
It's constrained to that era.
No, Half-Life, Alex is a good way to, like, follow up the Half-Life,
because it's just, like, they had that idea and they let it fucking bought,
like, Simmer for fucking years, and they come out as a revolutionary,
our game, which nobody knew
it was going to go that way, but because they didn't
push it, it turned out to be great.
Yeah. Don't, just companies...
Valve is impossible to
compare to. Yeah, yeah.
They will never just like shit something
out. Everything is just like
this little idea and it...
Unless it's Hunt Down the Freeman.
Hunt Down the Freeman is what made Half-Life Alex
possible, you know? That's...
genuinely, that is actually a theory.
Really? Yeah, because
they saw it and they were like,
shit.
Because they gave permission to them to use
the idea.
Yeah, so they saw
fuck off.
They release such a bad project.
They're like,
we got fix this man.
We need to actually prove
that Half-Life is like a franchise value.
Yeah.
So it's thanks to you
that Half-Life Alex exists.
That's why they named it after you.
I really need to do Half-Life Alex, man.
It is excellent.
Fuck, I need to do it.
It is excellent.
As a Half-Life fan,
since I was like 14,
it blew my mind
I should just get a VR player
I'm gonna jerk that game off anymore
It is very good
Let's end on this one
Then from Identity is found
James
Are you gonna play ArmidCore
Any mech games you like
I love you James James James
I love you
Armad Core
I had a brief experience
Of Armid Core as a child
On like you know
PS2 and PS1
Erwa
So I was always
Kind of a bit hype to see
You know
From the software and its current
you know, fucking hitting out
bangers, hitting fucking games
out of the park.
When was the last time they missed?
Exactly.
Dark sauce too.
That was a really proper Dark Souls game, was it though?
It wasn't directed by music.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like, I saw, you know,
that those trailers come out and I was just like,
fuck, you know, this might be my
entrance to the FromSoft.
This might be the game I properly get into.
And, you know, we start talking in the group chat.
We were talking about it,
And it was just like, you know, I saw it come out the next day.
I was just like, you know what?
My PC might not run this, but I'm going to fucking do it.
Who got it first?
Me.
Did you actually get it first?
I did.
And then, because we talk about buying it.
And then Jim was just like, I'm off on work and like two weeks time.
I'll buy it then and like sink in.
And I was just like, I don't want to let him do that.
I'm only, I'm going to get in first.
So I bought it.
And then Jim instantly bought it.
It fucking got me.
It's fucking got me.
It's got you.
I've got angry at bosses and it's just like
I'm turning this off, I'm going to bed
tomorrow, I'm getting it
I'm in. That was me with Sechro man
Yeah, it's got
It's got all of the FOMsoft things that I've like
Always found difficult to get into
But because it's in a nice little robotic
Mac package with customisation
It's got me and I've been angry at it
And I've been like, I don't know if I can do this game
But you know, I've persevered and I've got through
And I found that's what their games do though man
They like get under your skin
And it's like, I'm not gonna let you
you win. They almost taunt
you. Yeah. And then
you're like, no, no, fuck you.
Have you both done that boss then that's
like notoriously? So you've got...
So with it, you've got, there's two
infamous bosses, there's the basically the first
boss on the first level, which I believe
is like a... ridiculously easy.
You've got, you've gone from, you know,
the Souls games. Armacore
reasoned Souls, shit's
fucking hectic. And it's like
trying to make you adapt to the hectic
nature of Armacore. Missile Spam fucking
constantly laser
It's equivalent to the
Asylum Demon from Dark Souls 1
But just applied to that
Genre
If you know what you're doing
It's like well duh this shit's easy
If you've got no idea
Then it's actually quite challenging
How does it translate in terms of like
When you die
What do you lose? Nothing
Nothing, it just says
We start from Checkpoint
It's the most forgiving
Because there's checkpoints
And
if you restart from the checkpoint
you can change your whole setup
yeah to adapt if you're like oh this
this build just doesn't work for this scenario
and I think it's the people need to realize
it's not Dark Souls
you know our form software
got to the stage of making Dark Souls
because of the success of Armored Core
they're not trying to make Dark Souls with Macs
they're trying to make a game
that's true to their experience with Dark Souls
but with the Armored Corps
Armored Core franchise. So there's a lot of Armacore
things that... They're not. They're not either. No. Is it not?
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's not. That would make some.
But it has all of the things Dark Souls has, but it's like they've learned from those games
and they've made like a sequel to Armour Corps that is like
taking everything they've learned over all of those games. They're putting it into this one Armored Court game.
They just don't make bad games so later. No, but it's just like my PC's aged,
you know, and from software games haven't played Elderm Wing. They can be a bit with,
on PC.
Yeah.
Like,
this is the best running from soft game, I think, ever.
On PC.
Yeah.
It runs.
Yeah.
By a long shot, for how good the game looks artistically,
this, yeah, it outperforms every,
it's probably because it's level by level.
So they're not loading this giant area.
Yeah.
I have no complaints in that department.
Like, you know,
I've been having a hell of a lot of fun with it
and I love the depth
because it's all the shit that you've talked about from
because you guys have talked about Dark Souls and Sekro
for years and I'm always
in on I'm like third partying those conversations
you know so now having
getting the shit you talk about I'd be like I get it
because I've been playing it as Armoured Core
it is quite liberating it's like I finally understand
and I love
I just love the
you know the things I've been having difficulty with you know the main ones I've
had difficulty with is mainly the Bautus which is the the second really difficult
boss that people are talking about that's the one right yeah he and then there's
later on the C spider and with Bultus it really was like I I it took me like four
days to come over to get over you're getting home just being like I'm gonna get
this one and it was just like changing my setup and experimenting with what
weapons to use and a mech designs which helped me
overcome it and it was just like don't do the obvious thing of like jumping in the air trying to dodge it was just like be a bit more aggressive using a bit of heavier weaponry and that's what got me through and then the sea spider it was like no matter what I change on my setup I'm not fucking beating this thing so it's like I need to focus on movement I need to change how I'm tactically approaching this boss and that's how I got through it by adjusting how I was fighting it and that's all the dark so stuff yeah that's that's exactly the like timeline for me when I got to in dark souls three
The Abyss Watchers.
I haven't got there yet.
Because I'm playing Dark Souls 3 on the Steam deck right now.
Yeah.
I haven't got nearly that far.
Did you get there the first time you tried?
I don't think I've ever got that far.
Yeah, that was the point because the only Dark Souls games I'd played
because the only ones that were out were Dark Souls 1 and 2.
Yeah.
FromSoft has this way of like easing you into their games
and they have a point that's like...
It's tracking.
something of you, it's demanding something.
It's like saying, like,
we're doing this with this game,
do the things that you need to do.
Like Ginochero and Sakro.
Yeah, Gnichero and Sakoro,
the wolf guy in Bloodborn,
the first, like, major boss.
Yeah, and that's where I say
when the first boss in Armored Court 6
is like a,
it's trying to make you learn
the way Armoured Court is and like spam
and loads of attacks
and it's like
if you seriously
can't adapt to that boss
you're gonna have to
refund the game
and it is spaced
in a period
but even if you have
like four or five attempts
you can still
refund the game
with game time
so it's like
they're giving you that option
that if you can't do this
you don't play this game
and it's like
Baltis is like
the next one up
where it's like
you've got
persevere
and you've got to overcome this
yeah
learn the game
yeah and I did
by doing like a
like a thing that wasn't
it's like your unobvious thing
but it's like the customization i generally love all the character the story is actually like
the story is awesome the story is really the thing that's like really i want to know what's happening
that surprises me it's got that it's got like influences of dune there with the call it's like
yeah it's it's not like engaging like a last of us you know it's not showing you it's like
curiosity you just want to know why why yeah and you want to know where it's taking you and the
way from self like shows stuff it's you know there's like it's it all the information is so
informed by all this background stuff mm-hmm um is that he video doing his law on it or
i'm not sure yet i think it's gonna be a bit more time yeah um but but i know certain
souls youtubeers because that's the that's the only thing putting it off of me is um
part of the appeal of a blabon of a secaru is that enemy design the environment design
whereas like a lot of the gameplay have seen from armacore is like i don't know what i'm sifting through
i'm from how far i've got um i think the level design is it's like really good yeah
the level design and the enemy design there's like a lot of just like normal things fodder
Yeah, like little mech things.
But the same as, like, in Dark Souls, there's like the boring ass early stuff.
And then as you get through it, it's like, this shit I'm doing is crazy.
Yeah, the sea spiders one, those are like, holy shit, what the fuck's it doing?
Yeah, they get really creative with, like, the silhouettes and the designs of these enemies.
Yeah, the designs are really, really cool.
And there's a, I can't remember what the level is, but it's like, you know, in all the imagery,
it's just like, you're on the ground, but there's these, like, floating cities.
It's the first time you kind of go in there
and it's all like this industrial
kind of like plant in the sky
but it's like on one of these levels
I'm playing it. The amount of little tunnels
you can go through in like areas where there's like
battle logs, there's harder enemies
and you're discovering this when you've done the level
it's like there's a lot of replayability
there and it's the aesthetic and the
design of everything that's like suck them even
more. How does it work
in terms of like part of what's fun
in your securoes and your Dark Souls
is like in an area
when you're learning it
you can like find items
that are scattered and stuff like this
that's like a very minor part of the game
there is chests but I think the main thing is like
once you've beaten it once there's like battle logs
which is like harder enemies
possibly newer enemies that are now like dropped in
when you replay it so it's like you're now finding
this boss and you're trying to take it out
and that's like another like an additional challenge
just your level of motion is so much higher
you are like flying around
it's not so much about that
It's more like spectacle and something that we haven't touched on at all is like the...
I've said to you before already, what keeps coming back to my head is the scarabs from Halo 3.
You know these like giant things and relatively early on in the game.
There's a mission where you've got to basically take down like a scowab with a huge fucking laser weapon.
And you're like a giant robot, but this thing is like a giant.
giant robot. You spawn in
in a desert and there's like a sandstorm but in the
distance you can see the silhouette of this fucking huge
machine and you get
closer and it's like there's some
fucking energy coming from this thing and there's fucking
huge blue lasers like attacking you
and it's like if it touches you you're fucking dead
so you're like dodging and you're trying
to get behind our buildings and stuff and then you've got to
climb the thing and then like
fight on it and then later on in the game you're
fighting like Star Destroyers
from Star Wars but as a
Mac and you're like shooting these things and
it's all about the scale
yeah yeah it's the scale thing
and
from soft games have never been like the best
appearance wise but when you
you find yourself like immersed in this
this shit that's happening
you're like I'm fighting a spaceship
as a big robot dude
yeah the tank tank tracks
it's so goddamn badass
that's cool when you say when you describe it like that
that is the luring yeah it's like um yeah
there's one level I think is after
the sea spider level because the sea spider level is
like you start at the start
but there's like orbital lasers
and you have to do like dodge around it
and like find a path
and you get to the sea spider
and it's on a huge fucking cannon
which they launch across a country
and it comes down
but it's like the actual environments
because the level after this is in a quarry
and it's all snowing, it's blizzardy
you can't see the distance
and it's like there's something about that
which adds like attention
because it's like any time
there could be a boss
and when you get to this
you know this ship comes along
there's like a fucking 20 drones
with fucking snipers on the ridge and shit
and in his level I was like trying to take out the drones
but it's like every time I try to like corner peak
or whatever a fucking huge lady
I'm getting like tense and I'm trying to like
not die because if you fuck up and you don't dodge
you're dead
and then you got to
when you get that right
sort of run you feel like
the most badass dude just ever
and it's visually cool when you're like
the other thing is like
there is like our enemy age
enemy armoured cause who have the same weaponry in the movesets so when it's
fighting one of them it's like the only thing can compare it to is like ace versus
eight fights in ace combat where it's like the two like characters are like
going at it because they're the best it gives me that because they're dodging and
their shootings and it's like there's some I can't be because my set up isn't
per is like they're countering my setup so this is a tense thing where you're
dodging and you're getting fucked and it's like you find them in the levels where
they are these
aces and it is just hyper
that's where that whole enjoyment is
and it's like the whole multiplayer aspect is like
you're fighting another player in that mech
and there's so much enjoyment there
and you've toyed with multiplayer right
yeah we have which is a whole other
like addictive
aspect of the game
because it's like there's three rounds
you three fights
and they can be really short
and you're just in this map and you've got to
like work out how to beat them
And it is really fun because Jamie's like set up is really jumpy and like glides around
and I'm like a heavier like tank so I'm like trying to find them and then I'm just getting
shot from fucking there's missiles going off and I'm not where the fuck is he?
Yeah.
And it's tense and it just looks cool.
Being in a robot with like loads of missiles pos is going do do do do or shooting eyes.
It just looks cool and everyone should try it because you might not like it but Armored Call is like a.
Yeah, I think if it gels with you, it's going to.
gel hard
if you're
initially like
just not into it
you're probably
you've got
you've got stronger opinions
about this like donkey video right
I think he completely misrepresented the game
yeah way to make it
to back up his
I felt like when I watched that video
I feel like I got what he was getting at
we was kind of saying
yeah I did it's not the same
itch that's being scratched from the previous
from soft games it's something different
I yeah no but I
think that comes from the case of he's not son who grew up with armoured core he wants
armored core to be dark souls but armoured core's not dark souls so why do you want it to be
dark souls i think it's more from like dark souls is so like lorded as far as its design as
far as a lot of the things it does achieve i think he kind of undercuts how smart a lot of the
design is right that's that's my only issue with it is like that a lot of this has been really like
thought through and just in terms
of like the rock paper
scissors nature of it it's like a tried and true
system
because yeah I don't know how it's really
like settling as far as like
Fromso fans souls fans
I'm a core fans I think it's going to need a bit more time
yeah but yeah
all of this information is coming
from two guys that have
not finished the game by any means that
yeah I'm still a couple weeks
yeah we're both
in chapter two
Yeah, and there's...
I've just been going back and having a lot of fun with earlier.
And I've seen some future bosses and it's just like,
I'm looking at this shit and this shit just fucking looks like millennia to me, you know?
It looks like that kind of...
It's exciting.
Yeah, and it's just like...
There is criticisms that people are saying that if you build a setup X way,
you can basically get through the whole game really easily.
And I will say every Dark Souls games like that
because you can basically cheat...
There's a way to cheese everything.
And if you willing to...
choose to cheese
and you find it easy
that's not the game's fault
you've just wanted to choose it
that's also a valid way of getting through it
yeah but like it also like
with the way FromSoft has been going
it's like pick up the pace
pick up the pace pick up the pace get faster and faster
and faster and faster and then it's like
well how much faster can you
get and this is it
you know you reduce the difficulty a bit
but you just like
increase that that velocity
so you'll just always
is just go away.
It seems like quite a good game to release
after Elder Ring in terms of like
it's not about like a big map.
It's level by level.
The gameplay pretty much could not be more different.
The setup is so different.
I think it's um...
I'm not sure if you've seen what Bandai Namco have said
but I think it's genius.
Because they said like
from From Soft's name
they can make this a franchise for the future.
They can like make this
this sort of bed of fans
yeah because they said like
it's not going to sell as well as
as Eldon Wing
they know that but they'll be able to make new fans
by releasing it yeah which is great
because it's like this is interesting
new yeah
they've made a fan out of me
yeah I mean and we've got to realize
MET games never hit in the West
and they never have
this might be the first one that creates like
a devote
mech game fan base in the west
and that's a big thing because mecs are cool
the West hates mex you know
but this could be the start of like a
a mech resurgence in the West
and mex are cool
yeah be curious how it's selling
it's probably quite well
I'm pretty sure it's been doing really well
and I've been going back and do like
we're playing some of the earlier levels
because it's like you know I beat the sea spider
and it took away a few tries so I'm not like
going to those next levels and it's just like
this isn't as difficult, but I know it's like
that next big boss is going to be,
it's going to test me. It's constantly building.
It's called a sonic S-rank thing, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah. I can try and S-rank each level.
So now I'm like, I'm getting almost anxious
of like, how much is this one going to fuck me?
So I'm like, I'm going back so I can buy all the weaponry
so that when I get that boss, I can be like, sit there and be like,
what am I going to have to change?
Instead of having to go exit the level, we get more money.
It's like I'm trying to just grind a bit early on
just to be an experiment even more when I do get stuck
because then I'm like really thinking about it.
But at the same time,
doing these levels,
there's so many little hidden things
that I'm like,
I'm getting these S-Rankes
because I'm like finding a really fast way to do it.
And I generally having it.
I'm glad you've finally got the FromSoft bug.
Yeah.
And it's like now I'm like picturing.
I think I can do every other Dark Souls games
because if I'm looking at my dark guy,
that's not a guy, that's a meck.
Everything's a meck and I can be like,
I can make this work.
But it is very cool
And I like that
They're like
At the moment
They're teasing
Like a certain character
To be like
Your Wivalais
It's like he almost knows
What you are
So it's like
They're teasing
And you've like
Allied of him once
And it's like
They're teasing
Like a good fight between them
And it's like
I've seen some of later levels
Where there's multiple enemy
Like
factions fighting each other
While you're fighting
It's like
It seems to actually
Like fucking pop off
Yeah
And then there's a mech
This Melania boss
looks exactly like a meck
for my favourite Gundam anime
he's got these little like
bulls that are like independent weapons and shit
and it's like holy fuck that looks cool as fuck
so I'm really really hyped
but at the same time I'm like
that's gonna fuck me
I know that's gonna be really difficult
so I want to...
That's part of it though
yeah
you gotta feel that fear
I know I've got it
but the same time it's like
I want to get through it
but yeah it's
yeah I'm glad you can finally experience that for real
and it is for a AAA game
that's just come out
it's like 50 pound at launch
because like it really
I don't know
I didn't have much of a marketing campaign
that wasn't like loads of height
and stuff
it's got Carl Urban
in a trailer
yeah
yeah
I don't think
Fromsoft need it
and this no that's the thing
Fomsoft is a quality name
so everyone can be like
this game's gonna hit
and it's gonna be good
I think people underestimate Vati Vidya as well
like he's made
like three videos on the game
load millions of views
there's like 300 million views
the dude's huge man
I
I'm gonna say the soundtrack
fucking walks
you'll be up into that load
that's title screen and the mecs
like pulling a big like fucking
pillar drive out of a robot and it's just like this
fucking music man it's fucking cool is it
because that honestly the soundtrack
is why I bought Starfield
if I'm being real
really um
because I was watching a few stream
of it and the music was excellent from what I was hearing and it is very good um yeah
when it like Ashley plays not from so Bethesda are good at soundtracks for the most
they are yeah yeah but from soft are as well yeah it's it'll be a very different pace
to Starfield but some of the music is like this yeah it's it's like I don't know how to
explain the style but it's almost like what's the genre like what's the music genre
it's like orchestral kind of it's also trance
see what's the sound you hear like electronic sounds yeah yeah orchestral sound but it's like that's this high like bpm
yeah just intensity it's almost like almost like the the title screen like song it's almost a little bit depressing
it's like somber i think all the sound effects though like i can feel in 10 years having nostalgia
for this game like the sound effects before someone talks to you in the the comms that sort of thing is
like it just
cementes itself
do you have the audio tracks on
Japanese vocals? No no
no no it feels like with
FOMsoft it's like the English stuff is good so
it's like I tend to just leave it because
if it's Sekaro it's default
on Japanese
Oh is that the default
was yeah yeah oh okay
with subtitles because in Japan
the default is English
vocals for Dark Souls
but Japanese subtitles
being it's a Japanese right yeah and then it's the inverse for us because with
Sakaro because it's based in Japan yeah they're like in the Dark Souls is set in
like European kind of yeah and I guess with with the whole MEC thing in in like
the greater world of corporations and whatnot it does make sense how it's like
English it might be the the language yeah and whatnot and the English like all the
voice performances sound pretty good yeah and it's almost like there I know
there's more to
that might be revealed in the story
but now it's just like
it's almost like
I'm getting that horrible feeling of this like
yeah this is like
this is like a critique of war
because you're killing these mecks
and they're people
you know obvious things I didn't get
with ace combat even though I'm shooting down
fucking countless planes
but it's just like
reading like battle logs
that you can find in the levels
it's just like
it feels as though the more you think
about like the world
that you're playing in
the
the more like depth there is to it
you know if you actually contextualize in your head what's going on
suddenly it's like whoa the shit just gets deeper and deeper
yeah and that that is a thing of the Mac genre like
there's a few Gundam series that has like prioritized that
and whatnot and it's just like I'm glad they're delving into that
because it is like a you know the way the story's going at the moment
with the planet basically being exploited by the companies the corporations
and you've got the rebelling faction
and then you've got this other faction going
and it's really trying to
go in on there
so I'm like really
honestly after your guys' discussion
and I'm more excited about it
than I thought
I would just I would say is buy it
do that first level
and if you get enjoyment
through that and you get past the first boss
you can make a choice of
I can play this more
because it is just kind of silly fun
jumping around
and a fucking tank and shit
that's what's so awesome about
like the story is that like you can take it as surface level as you want or you can really get
like invested yeah yeah the customization does look very cool yeah it's really cool just experiment
with new guns and whatnot and it's like I found weapons that are like terrible for bosses but
like I can like speed one everything else and get to the boss and it's like I just fucking
love max man I fucking love mix yeah and it's it's one of those games where like I've been at work
and stuff for days not being able to play it and it's like my head is just
thinking like what build am i going to use how am i going to do next yeah i've done these levels
which ones do i want to replay like if someone's played at armbur core and they're like
they've got that mech there's so much fucking good mech stuff out outside of neon genesis evangeline
there's a lot of there's a lot of really good mech stuff out there that you can now like
experience just opening the doors to like so many good shows and movies about mex and it's just
like that I appreciate Max like nothing else
Max are the cooler shit
so I hope this does like
invigorate that new love in some
people who haven't otherwise experienced it
I will talk about Max all day man
all day I'm glad it's landed
because I wasn't sure like how it was going to
settle yeah no honestly
before because we met for coffee this morning
that's what we talked about morning
before you arrived for like
hour hour and a half we were
talking about Armacore.
Like we could talk about this shit for like five more hours.
I was like, I want to go home.
I know I've got to do things tonight,
but part of me is like, I could do an Armacore level.
I'm like trying to get you, man.
That's how they get you.
No, but I like that with it being like a menu select,
it's not like, as someone who hasn't done a Dart Souls,
it's like it was always overwhelming that I couldn't really dip out of it
because I'd lose context of what's going.
on so it's almost like you've got sink in and get that fucking done get that first
play through and then you kind of dip more in on second playfoods but if armoured
core it's just like it's level select yeah so you can just those chunks jump in and
apparently uh the new game plus a new game plus adds a whole more story beats loads of
more characters levels the bosses it just keeps going and it and branching story paths as well
but that's even a thing i find with like going way back to dot source three like I've got
know history with that game
if I come up across a boss
that I can't beat it becomes this like
well I can't settle until I beat this guy
yeah that's what it's got me I gotta keep trying it then
until I do it and you keep getting closer and closer
and like you can't submit until you've done it
yeah it's that's what I had with the Baltas fight
because in our group chat there's so mess to be like I can't do this guys
I can't do it man shit fuck this and then and it's like I go to bed
angry I'd be laying in bed and like
fun in the morning, like, this is, I'm angry, man.
I had that with Sekro bosses.
And then it's like, I wake up and it's all I think about.
And then I go home and I spend like two hours trying and it fucks me again.
And it's the next, it's like, the frustration builds even more.
But when I get home on that day and I, like, chill out and I'm like, I can do this.
And then I do it.
And this is like, the dopamine reward you get from doing that.
It's like those moments where it's like you get your control and you're about like smash it out.
Like excitement, you're like, test.
Yeah, you fucking did it.
Like, that's got, like, me.
having that experience should probably tell you that it has
like that dark core DNA in there
like I would seriously just try try out that
the intro because it does throw like a lot of
what I'm a core is then you
and then you can experience
I'm glad you guys are enjoying it yeah buy it pick it up on a sale
and it's not a 60 pound game at launch
yeah and that and that is actually really you don't have to buy every
skin in the game they just come like packaged in
does it have a best edition no yeah it does but it's like the
soundtrack. It's the art book
or something and
yeah. It's not a digital like
dude there's not even a battle pass
is you for real
yeah there's no about there's no skin packs
there's going to be a skin pack that's like
evangelicalian crossover then I'll be fine
that shit yeah
I like that there's like people making like
five highs for the mobile in the
vinyl creating creative with like
the decal systems and there's going to be
some really ridiculous like
yeah give it a few months those mods are getting mental
how long before there's like
a F-35 fucking fighter jet
mod? You just fly around
them at that. I'm pretty sure the day
it released someone had made a CJ
from San Andreas for a
me. Yes, it's just a giant CJ.
They've made like a mod to have CJ.
Yeah and it's just like I
will probably keep an eye on it. It's the same
where I do with a... Like, we playing Ace Combat
is a bit shit. Like I've always tried
to redo a play a few, but it's been difficult.
But I'm like hyper
to see what like... Because I imagine it's going to be
ADLC for it because they they tend to do like one DLC and that's it well I can't
believe this came out before the autumn ring yeah there's supposed to be an
autumn ring one yeah there is there's going to be yeah yeah I forgot I forgot
about yeah yeah I just what I'm excited to see what they might do in the future
no I think it almost guarantees a sequel yeah but they confirmed that this is
gonna make new fans so I think there will be yeah and I'll be there for it yeah
I can say and I'm only on chapter 2
I fucking love Max Ron
I was chatting shit about Max
Hey what Jamie was actually saying
I thought Max were lame as hell
I'll be honest and then
I start playing this game and I'm like shit
You're one of one of Missile pods
This cool A-F
And then I bought the game
I played the game
Mecs are awesome
Max can be cool they just can be really cringe
So when they're really cartooning it's just like
No I need like some more realistic
mechanical matrix revolutions
and then someone was like you
you love Titanfall right and I was like
oh that is Mac yeah that is Mac
no that was me because you
I was just like you were saying about it
I was chatting shit about mex and you were like
you love Titanfall and you were like no
they're like cool Western mex I'm like that
I'm like Japanese Mex man
and it's like they have swords and shit
the melee weapons are really fucking fun to use
they are I hope respawn
capitalises on this new mech
like invigoration
Titanful 3
yeah the Avatar 3 tie-in game and the fun the fun thing another thing is when
your weapon ones out of ammo you just don't have it so you've got fists so you go
one around and you just bang yeah like fighting fucking punching mex just punch them
I found it funny so I went into one of these levels and I accidentally unequipped like my
sword so I was like flying on this level and I was like gonna do the lunch it's just
like my mate just fucking went up and punched the cunt off a fucking lead and it's just like
yeah it's so sick it's uh yeah it's good
Damn.
It's like dodging
like missile attacks against you
and laser attacks
as you were like
shooting missiles at them
and you're going in for like a punch
and you're like blasting
with a shotgun shit.
It's so good.
Okay, thank you for watching.
Yeah, I hope you enjoy all my core out there.
See on the next episode.
You better do
because that was like an hour of conversation.
Just that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
