JAR Media Posdact - ABYSMAL Beyond - JARCast Episode 291
Episode Date: September 12, 2022https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 02:41 Robert Zemeckis Pinocchio is Horrendous 10:01... The Queen Died 33:11 Housekeeping 39:00 Joe Pasquale Real Cost 48:19 Reddit Questions 48:46 UK Election Haiku 49:22 Something people WRONGLY Assume 53:12 Most Embarrassed You've Felt For Another Person 58:00 Is Media Getting Worse? 1:16:43 Ararchism as a Political Philosphy 1:22:23 Elden Ring Critique 1:27:31 What does James do for a living?
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Okay, good afternoon, morning, evening all night, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to this episode of Khaas, me, Juba.
Yes.
We have to use that one.
We haven't have one that good in a while.
Yeah, that was fresh.
I'm your host, Alex, joined by James and Jim.
Hi.
James is in a great mood today.
I'm always in a great mood.
On this 291st episode.
We are still 100,500 episodes behind Joe Ogan.
We'll get there.
We'll get there.
Do you know what?
Should we just name the next episode like one above him?
So we become the longest running podcast?
Is he the running pongest?
We might be able to catch up if every cast we no longer release.
a full cast once a week
we record and then
cut it up into like 10 podcasts
or 14 podcasts and do
two a day. Yeah.
That's basically what Joe Wogan does.
Make it like episodic, even more episodic
than it already is, you know?
Yeah, so you can actually... And we can have like cliffhangers
within them. Yeah, we should do if you talk
about have cliffhangers. Well, how long
can YouTube shorts be?
10 seconds...
Surely it's a minute, right? No, it's like three minutes.
They can be quite long, yeah. If it's like
three minutes, we could do a whole cast over shorts.
No, but that's the thing. We'd also be,
we'd get, by doing that, we'd
half the algorithm and become like Joe Rogan level.
Because the meta is short.
Yeah, you just add the, um, TikTok,
br-brown, brown song.
Yeah. What's the bram-bram song?
Like, when someone's saying something crazy,
like, the intellectual song.
In Antarctica, there's a hole that leads to the inner earth
where the dinosaurs still roam.
That's where the meg's going to be released.
Yeah.
Before we get too deep into the show,
let me shout out the journal media patrons
to make the audio version possible
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Thanks, everybody.
Why are you looking at your watch, feeling bored?
Yeah.
Ready to get out of here.
Oh, yeah.
Look at you, Mr.
You know, Klinger!
I'm going to get rid of Twitter and Instagram
because I look at my phone too much,
so I'm going to put a phone on my wrist
and look at that all the time.
I was looking at my rings, bro.
Oh, he was looking at his rings.
His rings of power.
Any ring of a power, I don't know,
belongs to James' dad.
So, um,
I posted a review of,
uh,
the Robert Zemeca's,
Pinocchio.
I watched a bunch of this film.
Did you?
I posted it on, um,
letterboxed.
Um,
and there was like a comment that was like,
Really, Alex?
The day after the queen dies?
No, this is a funny, um, co-con kinky-dink.
Um,
next year is Disney's 100th anniversary.
And they want to see how quickly they can destroy their legacy.
Yeah, yeah.
What did you think of what you saw of Pinocchio?
I got about halfway through and got like two,
fed up. It's, it's, it's abysmal beyond. It's, it's beyond abysmal. It's like these Disney
remakes, there's a pile of them now. They're growing and they're getting stronger. Like the
trailer came out for the little mermaid like today or yesterday. That's the next one that's
coming. Oh my God. Um, and it looks awful. Um, but, but they know. They know it's bad. Yeah.
They all have to be like, like the, the, the colors have to be like all dimmed and dark to make
the CG look better because they're just these like synthetic monsters but but what I found with
this one was that like everything that was real like Tom Hanks on the green screen he was like
really dark and uh textured and detailed and then Pinocchio was stood there like a shining beam
of light like right next to him it was like a PS1 graphic yeah it looked like um like
the the the CG before you boot up crash bandicoot too
yeah yeah it's exactly like that
it looks so bad I briefly went on the original Pinocchio
because that's also on Disney Plus just to like refresh my memory
because I remember liking it as a kid and just that tiny sequence of
of the cricket getting into the house to warm himself
it's like so simple so clean
Like he just like
You just popped under the
The door or whatever
But in the in the Robert Zemeckis
It's like a
Like it's like
Every scene is an excuse to be an amusement ride
And it's honestly exhausting
And creepy as hell
And like not in the way that it should be
You know
Like for some reason
There are three James
There are three Pinocchio movies
Coming out this year
Three
What?
Yeah
There's the awful Disney one
There's some other, like, really random animated one that's getting clowned on because
whoever's voicing of Pinocchio sounds like incredibly camps that was being like clipped
and made fun of for that.
But there's a Netflix, Guillermo del Toro directed Pinocchio movie, which looks awesome.
There's a trailer for it on YouTube.
Like, all the character designs look so cool.
Like, the production design is obviously, like, top-notch because it's like his whole forte.
why do we need
why do we even need one Pinocchio
beyond the original
yeah I feel like Yale Mayor could do something
I think it actually is a cool story though
while I was watching the Robert Zamakas one
I was like being reminded of how cool of a story
Pinocchio is like a really good kid's story
but layering metaphors
if it's Del Toro where's the Macs he pretty much is a
he's a robot Mac
no but where's the mex where's the
He's Astro Boy, dude.
He is Astro Boy.
Where's the mex?
But it's like, the way,
the way they embellish, like, every detail where it's like,
yeah, random side characters, now they have to have, like, exposition and their own song.
And, like, you've got to explain everything.
It's like, bro.
How far did you get?
Did you get to the smoke monsters?
Skip past the smoke monsters.
Did you really see the donkey scene?
No.
But I watched the whale scene and that shit was fun.
Yeah, they made it like a weird, like...
Yeah, it's like a squid monster.
Yeah.
A photorealistic squid monster.
And Pinocchio does like the Incredibles thing.
Yeah.
He's like a superhero.
Yeah.
Like is that a thing in the original like with him lighting his feet on fire and stuff?
And like, there was kind of like a steampunk thing going on.
Like Tom Hanks when he's like,
Like, he wakes up from a bad dream and turns the lights on.
Instead of just lighting a candle, there's this whole like...
And there's this like complicated mechanisms like all going off.
Because it has to be cool and modernized and steampunked.
And like every single creature in the movie has like a different art direction.
A different style of anime.
It's crazy.
Like Pinocchio is just the two-D movies design in 3D.
But then like,
The fish is like from something else entirely.
The fish is freaky.
And the fox?
Then the fox is like from something else.
Yeah, he's like realism.
Then there's the whale, which is from something else.
And then there's a talking seagull just from someone else.
It's like, oh, dude, it was actually so horrendous.
This actually undoes Forrest Gump.
Yeah, I think, I think.
The trilogy of Polar Express, Christmas Carol,
and now this.
The three scariest, unintentional horror movies.
Disney isn't the only one destroying their legacy.
They got Zamaki doing it, too.
Did you like the Chris Pine joke?
That was admittedly really funny.
Did you notice who played the cricket?
It was Robin.
yeah
Joseph Gordon Leavitt
why he's like
supposed to be a cockney geese
doesn't it
well he's his
his voice he does for the movie
is so annoying
and the voice of Pinocchio
is so annoying
like
the budget is apparently
150 million
they actually pissed it
they just pissed it down the drain
I bet you're just gonna make money
it's on Disney Plus
yes on Disney Plus
I think
my theory
that they wanted it to be another like Lion King type situation like just get a big name
director put it in the Disney plug-in whatever like machine that like shits out this weird
live action quote-unquote version of a classic then it makes a billion bucks but then they
were seeing how it's coming together and I'm like oh yeah bloody hell let's sneaky release this
one yeah let's try and hide this one I haven't really seen any marketing for it either
It's the only one that I've seen on, like, release day, though.
Yeah.
And it came out the day the queen died.
Yeah, the queen died.
Yeah, I guess we can talk about that.
Yeah.
Because I went to see, I went to the movies yesterday to see bodies, bodies, bodies.
And, like, I just was not anticipating it.
But right before the movie began, a splash screen of the queen in total.
silence
like it filled the screen with like a
profile of her saying queen
Elizabeth and everyone was like
there was this weird energy in the room
of everyone was there and they were like everyone was like
trying to hide their laughter because it was like so just like
so right before this like horror movie
that's about to eat Davidson yeah like it wasn't
like expected and I was just like
Pete Davidson actually in it yeah Pete Davidson's in it
he told me that yesterday and I thought me that yesterday and I
was a joke I feel it's like it actually is yeah
he's actually just straight up in it he was around it
too
the real horror store of his life is
Kanye
getting Kanye's
kids tattooed onto his body
but yeah
that was quite a weird moment and it was just
it was kind of a like
like is this kind of like
insane sort of moment
like
I'm no royalist by any means
but I'm also
I've not seen
social media light up in this kind of way
for a while.
Nothing but Queen memes.
Yeah.
Threads of all the evil things
the Royal Family has done.
Hopefully so. Spread all these threads.
Let everyone know how evil they are.
Even on Facebook on car groups
are banners for fucking car groups.
Japanese car groups have banners
dedicated to the Queen Elizabeth.
I got an email that was like
Marks and Spencer's
they were like our statement on the queen
what's Mark's what's Mark and Spencer's opinion
they were like I went on it on the email and it was and it was like just what you'd expect
but it was signed from from your family at Marks and Spencer
it's like fuck off yeah give it a rest
I don't particularly, yeah, I just don't particularly care.
Do you not just see it though as like an old lady dying?
Yeah, as well.
I see it, it's the same as like a celebrity dying.
No, but the queen is more important than celebrity.
Because a celebrity is just a celebrity, but the queen is royal.
Well, she's had more people murdered.
I couldn't stop thinking about, the main thing I couldn't stop thinking was about was like,
how much are they going to spend on that funeral?
while we're in the middle of a
cost of living crisis that hasn't been seen
since like the 70s
80s
Yeah
My opinion is
It is kind of
For the culture
I think it is a sad
moment
For British culture
But
At the same time
I don't care
yeah
because like I was
when the story
start coming out
being like
the queen
is
the health team
around the queen
are worried about her
and then it just
started trickling out
over the hours
then I put the live stream up
on my PC
and there were people
like hordes of people
gathering outside of Buckingham Palace
where she wasn't even
she wasn't even there
but I guess it's a similar
symbolic thing or whatever all these people outside like putting their arms up like this to the
sky hordes of people some of them in tears the the uh they're like the royal historian or whatever
kept being like interviewed some some guy who's like an expert on the royals or whatever was like
on the news and he the way he was like talk he was like he could barely talk because he seemed like he was
about to break down and then you have people being like there was like a news anchor who was
saying something like the cost of living crisis pales in comparison to the weight of what's
happening here and it's like well i think it's really inconsiderate of the queen to die now
yeah i think you're right the the UK is in a particularly shite place and the queen's
yeah you know when literally on the Monday of the same week that the queen dies we get a new
prime minister yeah the worst of um the the run the run so far in the 12 years but saying that um
our new prime minister has a passion for cheese and what was the quote again uh the uk import with
the uk imports like 60 percent of cheese but she calls it like disgrace or something no but this
is the thing like how how what was you can't use data like
60%, 50%, 30%,
we need exact context of what they're referring to
because there's absolutely no fucking
way we import that much cheese.
We make fucking loads of cheese here.
What's the context of this data?
It's like the most weird things anyone's ever said.
Do we like make Hulumi here?
Do we make Brie here?
And also why is it an issue?
Yeah, this is the thing.
It's like, okay, well, if we make
like a load of chat.
We do. We absolutely make a load of cheddar.
Because we like invented cheddar.
So we make...
Just say it with confidence and then it's true.
Yeah, we make a lot of cheddar, right?
We make heaps of cheddar.
Parmesan is actually British.
Did you know that?
Parmesan is British.
But...
But cheddar is like one cheese of many cheeses, right?
Yeah.
So if people are buying a variety of cheeses,
one of them might be British of course we're going to import the rest
yeah that dude yeah because the Italians make Parmesan
if we make Parmesan it would just be shit Parmesan
so why would you buy the shit Parmesan when you can just import the good Parmesan
like we don't only eat one type of cheese
so maybe the Queen did
we keep talking about cheese in Italy or whatever
and that's something they kept annoying me about Pinocchio it's supposed to be set in Italy
There's one Italian actor in it
And there's this weird scene where this like
There's this young girl with a really strong
Like modern London accent
And it's really bizarre
The puppeteering lady
Yeah
Yeah she's like full on cockney
No not cockney
It's not cockney
It's way more like contemporary London
Yeah
Not cockney
Yeah
When you base anything in old times
like it can be anywhere
it could be like Istanbul
but if it's made by Americans
they'll slap a British accent on it
and that just like covers all basis
yeah true
but yeah
because then
the Queen dying discourse is now
developed into like everything does
into this like two sides thing
you know where it's like
Jeremy Clarkson tweeting about
how people on Twitter are just
no no no he's not on about people who's on about socialists
the socialists on Twitter on
are the bad people here.
No, he's talking about socialists.
Because socialists hate the queen.
So every socialist is a horrible human being.
Yeah, so it's just like so split
and it was like this maelstrom of 9-11 memes,
Trisha Paitas memes.
Those are good though.
The Tricia Pateaus memes are great.
It was like, oh my God, this is a lot.
I don't understand caring to the,
the degree like it's part of like a monarchy is the the current one will die and the next one will
take its place it's late yeah I understand the I guess the the split I have is like yeah I don't
like the monarchy and she does represent this she's symbolic for that ongoing like power
structure that's just been there for hundreds of years but then I
can't not see her as just an old woman dying yeah but also like Batman she might be more of
a symbol a symbol than a person I don't agree with the symbol I think to a lot of people she
represents something really good and that's what I mean by what did what does she know but what
does she represent this really good like charity and serving um her people
But, no, but this is the thing, how did she serve her people?
Like, what, what do you mean by that?
She cut, um, the ribbon to open the bridge and shit.
That's not, no.
It's just like we, we, this is the thing.
It's like, people say that the warriors have like a responsibility and a job,
but it's like, they only have that job because they're the world.
You just created jobs around their royalty that we don't need those jobs.
There's no benefit of those jobs that they do.
Internationally, they do have power.
Yes.
They have sway.
like with relationships across countries and she did stuff like um in the AIDS crisis
she had like pictures taken like actually holding hands of someone in hospital who had AIDS which
helped like change the no their job has always been public relations yeah it's public image
no but also international relations so I I don't think it's right to say her existence was
evil because we have those public relations and
international relationship with the Prime Minister.
That's their actual job, is that.
So if you get rid of the Queen and the World Family,
you still have that job being done
by the people who actually will the country.
I guess the thing for me is, like,
can you say with confidence that she's like an evil person?
You know?
Like, I feel like it's more complicated than that.
Yeah, it is complicated, but obviously, there's a whole...
There's...
Anyone, like, if you nitpick the bad things they've done,
then
their legacy will be
that they're a bad person
if you only look at the good things
they've done
then yeah
but that's not to say
that it's not also crazy
that we have a royal family
that is regarded
with the import
that it does to this day
to be under a monarchy
but again
it's a weird
cultural thing
in this country
and I guess
we're just ultra aware of
because like in the 80s or whatever
you're not seeing the whole
world's take on it you know
where of course like with social media and everything
you're seeing what Americans think you're
seeing what other people in Europe think you're
seeing you know like a more
global kind of opinion
but globally
I feel like the royal family is loved
more by foreigners than
do you think so I feel like in
in their country though it's fairly split
like a lot of people like
love the royal family like i drove to swindon the other day after she had died and the amount of
like flags union jacks hanging that were half half sale or whatever the fuck you call it um
in tribute to her it's like i i i guess i'd never even noticed those flags really being there
but in but noticing them being half down it's like go i guess like people really care about this
I don't get it, because are people like born and it's like the expectation that because you're British, you have to love the Queen?
Like, I don't understand my own parents that they're just like, they get angry at me whenever I say anything negative about the Warriors because it's like, oh, they're the Royals, they're, you know, you should have, it's like an expectation that you should like them and I don't get it.
So how can you cry over the Queen's death? I don't understand. Like, you're not, they're not close to you. They're the Queen. They're just a figure. I don't, I don't get it.
I don't understand it.
Yeah.
I think about like, from her perspective, it is crazy to have been in power and seen like every prime minister from like Churchill all the way to Liz and meeting all of them and interact through all of that history.
That's wacky.
But like, I've got no fondness for the institution.
Yeah.
and the kind of like classism is really bad in the UK that to me they always like a representative of that you know
millions of different like spoons and cutlery they have and other you know what I mean like it is representative of that um
the kind of excess and the the manners everywhere and going to all the different castles and yeah you know
well I I find with the more classical stuff I can
I don't really care so much.
It's more when you get someone like Prince Andrew.
Yeah, who literally abuses the lower class
using his elite class status.
Whereas, I feel as the queen herself,
I think it's really pathetic that the whole royal family
just brushed out shit under the road.
No, that's the thing.
they haven't there's one man who hasn't
the fucking king
the king has not burst that aside because
his plan all along since the Andrew thing is to
call the family he's killing he's like
not killing off because he's very good at that
he's good at killing off he's going
to cut the royal family down
all of the extended world family's gone
they're not wars the king
is doing this yes Prince Charles won
and that's because of the Andrew thing and Prince Andrew's
probably one of them he wants to slim
the world family down to like the main ones
William Perry
which if he does
fucking fair play to him
absolutely the wide job
yeah that's the most important thing
any world was done it as of
yeah because that whole Andrew situation
was just another reminder of oh
so I guess these people it's just
completely different rules for you guys
yeah well that that brood so much
hatred for me for the royal
family
because then it's just like
if that's what
if it has to be that bad for us to find out
about it what else is going on
you know
that we'd never even find out about.
What do you think of the theory
that she's been dead way longer than we know?
Well, she hasn't.
But there have been pictures taken
from the last few weeks.
Yeah, the trust.
AI.
No, legit.
You go back and look at that public speech she had.
What, the Jubilee one?
Yeah, if that's not a deep fake,
I don't know what it is.
Yeah, but then if you're feeding inside,
you're also feeding into that,
you're also feeding until Liz Truss has been
selected as the Prime Minister months ago
years ago.
Why? There's videos of her meeting
the Queen, like the last week.
But she did meet the Queen the last week.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She did. So they would have
had to... Yeah, like a sock puppet queen.
So if the Queen's been dead... A weekend at Bernie's
queen. Yeah. She was 96
to be finished, so...
If the Queen was dead, that means.
I remember seeing a video of her
cutting a cake.
Right?
she got the
she was using like a sword to be fair
but she got this
this blade
like halfway down the cake and she was like
bro I'm done I can't
cut more in this cake
she has 96
you try and cut a cake when you're 96
no I know but it's like
no but this is the conjoous thing
who wants to live till 96
if I've seen half a century
that fuck I'm done
I'm good I'm ready to go
how old do you think humans are meant to live
for. I was thinking about this.
Yeah, like 30, 40.
You think that young?
Yeah. What do you mean by meant?
Like,
meant? Like in a, like a, yeah, I don't know what you mean by meant.
Well, just like.
Science has made us live way longer than we should.
I was, I was, I was feeding, I was feeding Billy last night.
And I was like, she, she eats the same thing every day.
Right.
Yeah, I think about that with the dogs sometimes.
As the human race, we struggle.
We get these scientists, dieticians.
We, like, studying the effects of food.
And we just feed our pets, like, some slop in a bowl.
It's like, so if we had slop in a bowl,
like, meat, jelly, veggie slop.
Would we be fine?
Yes.
Yeah.
Every day, the same thing.
Well, as long as you're getting your nutrients, you'll be fine.
Bro, I feel like early man before we had like civilization and the technology.
But you only lived till, like, fur, if that.
Yeah, but imagine what, imagine like what they were eating.
Just whatever they could, like fat, like mammoth fat or whatever.
You know?
Mammoth fat stew.
Do you go?
what I'm saying there's the thing you shouldn't be feeding your cat like the same thing
all the time well I'm not I got her the she likes it and she she she are you supposed to
top for her as the rats and the mice and the birds no but I are you supposed to feed
cats human food they're not allowed that are they because dogs you can just give them any
sloppy you and they're fucking love cats aren't really interested in human food they
they only really eat meat but you're not supposed to give dogs anything they can't
have like onion guys I was a bit of fucking onion
I hate, I, that's gotta be bullshit.
Don't give your dog a grape now.
No, it's not bullshit.
But why, why?
I'm sure some dogs.
Alacolos apparently really bad for dogs.
Like, asbestos is really bad for humans, but a tiny bit every now and then, it's probably fine.
What?
We don't use asbestos anymore, do we?
Wasn't it like an 80s thing?
Yeah, it was a facture thing.
Like lead pencils and stuff.
No, but what...
No, that's the thing
that Liz Tross is bringing back
up spestos.
UK made asbestos.
But,
but, but,
but what I'm trying to say
is...
What are you trying to say?
Yeah, what are you trying to say?
We don't even know
what to eat.
You do, I just open my cupboard
and see, like, oh, we don't,
we don't know...
Tasco tells me what to eat.
We, all right?
We don't know the perfect thing
for human.
Yeah.
Meat and veg.
It's not meat.
Meat, veg, a bit of potato.
That's not meat.
And all these.
studies have been done to see what
no humans on the planet
just eat plop in a bowl
slop in a yeah they do they do probably
a lot of people
who every day
they eat like a can of beans or something
and that's what they eat
bro people survive living off rustlers
yeah there's some
I guarantee there's someone out there who
eats rustlers every day
yeah they're gonna die only
who cares
you know
that's not my point is that how how long a human supposed to live for 40 50 60s
meant to what the how do you mean in in nature look have we taken medicine and food
knowledge too far yes we're like we're supposed to eat things that slowly kill us like
bananas monkeys eat bananas for days that shit has like potassium but they have other things
that end their lives like fighting over territories and stuff
Yeah, we used to have that and we don't anymore.
So now it's Big Burger?
Yeah, it's Big Burger till you die.
Big Burger, yeah.
But do you understand where I'm coming from?
No, not at all.
How?
Was the Queen meant to live till 96?
No.
Is anyone meant to live till 96?
No, but it was like some, I was looking at this.
Like, there was some like French king who ruled for like,
70 plus years
hundreds of years ago
it was like 1800s or something
you know
which is crazy so I'm surprised
he didn't get assassinated
because he's French
I saw a funny comment
on the last cast
because people were getting upset with you Jim
for talking about anarchy
oh yeah
you got some things wrong
boy some things really
and people are like
yeah you've just
with jar like
if they talk about something
that isn't
fucking Pinocchio on Disney Past.
No, come on anarchist.
What are you saying?
It's about the destruction of the institutions and the establishment, but it's like three.
So Fight Club?
I don't, I'm not talking about anarchism because I don't know about it.
Everyone knows about it because it's fucking nothing.
I saw one comment that was like, it's not nothing.
No, I saw a comment that was like, yeah, I got equally upset when they were talking about conspiracy theories.
9-11's just a fact
and you can't even like you that
what did it happen
yeah
yeah
I'm inclined to agree
I'm inclined to agree
I'm going into this one brother
I'm like no I need to know what these anarchists are saying now
well go on a YouTube
If you're an anarchist leave a nice little comment
and we might include it in housekeeping
No no no no stop stop
Stop
Stop they literally did what you're asking them
They didn't they didn't know
They didn't.
They did, someone literally...
They did the classic YouTube comment.
No, they did, I've got a problem with this, and I'm not going to expand.
You obviously did not look at the comments, because someone clearly explained that this is actually what anarchism is, because I read it.
It said that, sorry, about the replacement of the systems, and it's, like, self-loved by, like, communities.
That's not anarchy.
Well, you read the comments.
I'm not, I'm not talking about anarchy.
I'm a capitalist, okay?
I like capitalism.
Finally.
Yeah, we stripped the flesh away and what is left bare.
Yeah.
I'm not sad and bruised.
You're royalist as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, like, let's just quickly do housekeeping
before we go to mid-break or whatever.
This is where we kind of wrap up conversations
from the previous episode.
I've only got two, so don't worry.
It's brief.
Gabe B said, honestly prefer the cast
without housekeeping segment.
Windows XP, autumn wallpaper
is a superior choice, replied to that saying,
I only listen to housekeeping
and skip to the patron segment
unless there's a discussion on shit
I don't want to hear it
That's actually the canonical way
To listen to JAR
Yeah and you'll still have
Hundreds of hours of content
But what do you think
No if you actually consider that there's only
291 hours
Two 300 hours of JAR media content
To actually listen to
No no there's more
There's been multiple episodes
That have been two, three hours long
There hasn't
There has what about the
Yo yeah
That wasn't a multi-hour episode
Yeah, it was, it was like three, four hours long
It's the longest cast
What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the
Mystic Bean Giff, what did we do?
I think that was the Harambe
No, no, no, no, no, stop, stop
An episode, one was really long, artificially,
Artificially, yeah, it's Mr Bean
being Drake or whatever
That's content, some people
No, no, no, no, no, that's not, that's content
Because people watch the Jarcas playlist
And they say they have panic attacks
when they get to that episode
and it wakes them up
no come on
that's not actual content
yes it is
no it's not
anything can be content
no but the conversation
is housekeeping
thoughts
do we cull
do we call
no I think
um
we should only do it
when
we should
so you don't
you don't want
no no stop
we should only do it
when Jim fucks up
No, but I did
I didn't fuck up though, I was right
So I did a post on the community tab
On the Jarm Media YouTube saying
Should we remove the housekeeping segment
Like yes, no sometimes
Which you can participate in if you want to
And we can address this again
But so far no is winning by 57%.
So
So people want it.
People want it.
Yeah, look, some of the comments on that thread.
The housekeeping segment, this is Ryan Forbes.
The housekeeping segment is one of my favorite parts of the cast.
The interaction with the audience and comments is what separates it from every other podcast.
Thank you.
That's what I like about it.
Or, yeah.
Daniel Terry says makes each episode feel like a continuation of a running discussion, keep it going fellas.
Or Jack Diamond, who says, I live for the housekeeping segment, waiting each week to listen to people's inane, insane, insane.
or interesting questions as well as getting to hear my own
is what keeps me from turning into a cringe version
of the joker called the cringer.
Don't subject your poor subscribers
to go through the degenerate app,
aka Reddit, to be able to have their voices heard.
And then Mojo Mustard said,
I think only if it's about something that James,
that disprove something that James said in the episode,
then include it.
That's just all you do anyway, is favoritism.
Alex making Jamie and himself
look bad? No. Alex making
mean look bad? Yes. Not true.
You do that yourself, brother.
I know, I do. There's a point where
At least I didn't get anarchy wrong.
I didn't. I've googled what
anarchy means. Okay.
Right. Definition.
Stat of disorder
Due to absence or
non-recognition of authority
or other controlling systems.
Right.
Okay.
So it's a rejection of
authority.
Irrelevant of what the
authority is. But then you hear
these crazy terms like, I'm an anarcho
capitalist. I'm
an anarcho-socialist.
I'm an anarch.
James is the fucking knock.
I am the narwhate.
Uh, I make you think I'd get all this
more car parts from, boy.
Can we get in all the juices
this episode? This is, my
my favorite thing on the planet is when
is when I'm right, you know, and then you Google it, and then you're double right.
No, but that's actually everything you say, because you can just believe yourself.
No, that's, that's...
Suck your dick at all times and you're always right.
No, you know, like, Buddhists believe in this, like, ascension of self, like you become truly serene, you know?
You become truly sorenine.
You know?
Banana sorreen or...
Like enlightenment, you know?
I think enlightenment.
is when you're able to gaslight yourself
into believing whatever you do is right.
When you start believing your own lies?
Yeah.
Do you not?
Do I believe my own lies?
Yeah.
Is that what we all just do anyway?
Some of them, yeah.
Other ones know.
And that's why I'm...
And an archaic capitalist.
Dylan says,
So you're telling me James sits down to pee in the toilets at work,
where he's previously said
none of his co-workers washed their hands,
and he sees dribble and spit on the floor
make sure to wash them thighs James
And then you think
You think this is like a fucking own on me
Are you a fucking man who doesn't wipe the toilet seat
Before you sit down
I can't
Are you bringing anti-bacterial wipes everywhere you go
Or you just wipe?
No you just get you get you get the toilet paper
I think you go
Oh
Blu
to the break.
We mentioned a few episodes ago
that someone was trying to message James
about seriously getting Jopasqualee
to come on the cast.
And I actually got the details
on how much Joe Pascuali
charges to appear
on a podcast for one hour.
What do you think it costs, Jim?
I know how much it costs. James knows.
A grand, two grand.
Five grand. Oh, go up.
Keep going.
Keep going
More
50 grand
12 and a half
No it was 15 grand
Oh yeah
It's 12 and a half
15 grand plus VAT
No it's 12 and a half plus that
That's half someone's yearly wage
On an hour podcast
One hour feature of Joe Pascuali on your fucking podcast
So he only has to do three a year
And he's
I'm gonna be honest I don't think he's doing one
Who's actually getting
For those prices, fuck no
This is what old media annoys me so much
the way they do this.
Yeah, they think they're so valuable.
Yeah.
I'm Joe Pascuali.
I'm the dog in that fucking advert.
Yeah, well, guess what?
You're worth no more than fucking him, him or me.
You cocks, I'm going to say this.
Before it became a funny jar meme,
I didn't know who the fuck Joe Pascuale even was.
And the majority of people in the UK don't either.
Joe Pascali, sit the fuck down.
That's a lot of money.
That is a lot of money.
15 grand for one hour.
That's an RB-26 swap in a C-35 low, boy.
Now we can use this, though, to our advantage.
Patreon goal.
No, I'm thinking...
No, how does capitalism work, right?
You've got competing businesses, like, let's say this company sells nachos for five pounds.
Well, the next one's like, well, you know what?
We're going to do it for £3.50.
Do you know, like, like, VidConn and the...
kind of events some people do pay a fee to like turn up but yeah I'll go
there if you pay me a few grown and they do it um if you want us to show up at
your strip club no this is what I'm saying we'll be like I'll be on your
podcast for an hour for 10k we'd just if there was like some random guy
some random like trust fund kitty that's like um
And like, they're like in Saudi Arabia.
They like love the jack up.
They pay it as 10 k each.
They're like, you know what?
I love the cast so much.
I'm willing to pay you guys a hundred grand each to come and do a podcast.
Come and shit on him.
To do it.
Yeah.
If all of you come and do it podcast while you do a shit on me.
No.
A hundred.
Fuck yeah, though.
Jesus Christ.
300 grand.
300.
You wouldn't do.
You seriously would.
I couldn't do that. I can buy like two cards.
Oh wow, look at you. I'm going to buy
two cards, my 100K.
Well, yeah, I'd
do it, but then...
I, well, it's like, no, if you want John Medell on
to do anything for you, just give us a message
and be for hire.
Yeah, for a lot of money.
We'll show up at 11s in Chippling for you if you want.
No, but apparently, um...
Maybe that's like a business, people... I was talking to someone
who knows someone who worked
for a short period of time
in Harrods in London
young woman
Saudi Arabian
like princes would come up and just
propose like random fucked up shit to her
like what
like shitting?
I don't know if it was quite shitting
but like
let me suck your toes for 20K
it's like fuck me
you can suck my toes for 20K
that's no that's genuinely so unfair
honestly if I don't want to
just suck my toes at 20k let me know
I've got will you supple feet
no if if
I had the opportunity to shit on someone
and they pay me a bunch of money
like who would say no
especially if we're talking
five six figures
yeah
total privacy like they're embarrassed
about it they just want some random person
who like if they say something
well what the fuck does their word
yeah because these people they're dealing with wealth on a level
that no one can comprehend
No, they've gooned themselves so hard on, like, real, like, flesh that they're so bored, they want poop here.
No, but it's just like, if someone did approach me in London, it was just like, okay, do this weird sexual act for me.
And it's just like, if you're going to pay me a shit a ton of money, I'm going to do it anyway.
Even if it's a couple G, I'm going to do it.
I've watched a bunch of documentaries recently, the software underbellies.
Yeah, yeah.
On pimps.
and they said something that
or one of them said something that was really like
like
it made me hard to rationalize my previous
thinking
what do they say
he was like
a lot of people will be like
I'd never sell my body
my body's like worth too much
to do that
and he's like well why do you give it away to people for
free? Would you give you a house away to someone for free?
You know? Would you give your car away to someone for free?
Body is currency.
But it can be currency. It literally, like this is
capitalism bad.
Because literally anything is worth something.
Yeah.
Well, no, that's why virginities are worth hundreds and fucking millions, man.
People will pay for virginity.
people will pay for like if if they got nothing else then they just want like a human like a human can be valued as money the same as a dog or a cat you're getting into human trafficking stuff here boy i'm not saying i'm for this i'm not saying this is a good thing but i'm saying like things objectively
do have monetary value
including your own body
oh absolutely
my body has value
no literally no no
even as a
I want a consent to selling my bodies do this
it's just like
you're literally
the instruments the machines the mechanics
the parts that you're made up of
are still worth money
sell your kidney
sell your arm so your eyeballs
they're literally worth money you
this has been a thing that there was that there was that
infamous case in the UK where
that guy, like, he posted it on
Craigslist or whatever, he was like, I want to eat
someone. And someone actually replied to it.
That was in Germany, wasn't it? Yeah.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it was in Germany.
Yeah, they just posted like,
I want to eat something. Yeah, I want to eat something.
Yeah, someone actually showed up and they ate them.
Yeah.
It's bonkers.
It was like, there was that guy, like, in
London who was known as, like,
he would pay people to have them
like stand on their face.
or something like put their feet their dirty disgusting feet like all over his
space and that's just what he liked and it's just known for that but that's
the thing like markets are crazy mm-hmm it's a crazy concept that James how
much is James worth because these pimps got got me some ideas well I wouldn't
want to do anything for not
not money, you know?
You want to do anything for not money.
If someone offered me 500 quid, probably not.
Depends what they're asking.
If it was for feet pictures.
Oh, 500, 500, you can have feet pictures all day on demand.
But, like, if you want me to suck a dick,
I'm going to need a fair bit more money than that.
Like straight up.
Sucking a dick for money's not gay.
It's money.
Gay for pay.
Gay for pay.
So if a Saudi...
If a Saudi prince was like James,
K, suck me now.
Absolutely.
Really?
I'm sucking and swallowing for 100K.
All right.
What about 50K?
Sure.
If I can afford some wills
with whatever they pay me, sure.
Honestly, I'll just quit then.
If it's more than
999 pounds, I feel like you can get
James to do most things.
True.
Yeah.
I'm trying to save up for an engine
top of the moment.
We don't need anything, you know.
I'm open.
All right.
We'll see after these messages.
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We go over to the suggestion thread on R-slash-Jarm Media.
nearly I can't remember if it's 12 or 13,000 strong
we've got some good questions
that was a quiet one
normally you scream
I think he shit himself a bit
did he shit and piss yourself a little bit to keep it in
we have a good one that I actually prepared for
because it involves
haiku
Clara Bellum says express your
feelings about the result of the UK elections but in haiku form. So I wrote a little
haiku guys. Okay do it. Go shoot. In Liz, we don't trust. 12 years, Cameron, May, Boris.
Please just let it end.
Nice. Not fair though.
Why?
All right. Hallory says, hi Jha.
What's something people seem to misunderstand or assume about you?
I thought I'm got a contrarian, generally.
It's like, oh, James is like a contrarian, all he ever does is disagree with people.
Yes, I do.
What do you think, Jim?
About James.
Yeah, what about me?
Tell me what you think about me.
Lay it all down.
James's car isn't as cool as people think.
Absolutely true.
We don't disagree with that.
voice the question again
what's something people seem to misunderstand or assume about you
yeah no generally the contrary thing for me
that I'm calm
really
yeah
I think the amount of like
Discord calls and like calls I've been in with people where they're like
oh you're like way more quiet than I thought you were
I'm one of those people I much prefer listening
and taking in what someone's
saying to me as opposed to dribbling out my own things.
Yeah.
You know?
I think people think I'm less stupid than I am.
Hmm.
I think I've done an all right job at making myself...
Look intelligent.
Look not too dumb.
But are you saying you are dumb?
I'm saying I'm dumber, like it...
I may look dumb but I'm dumber than I look.
Do you know what I mean?
Hmm.
I know what you mean.
I didn't know what you meant earlier, but this one I know what you mean.
But in a way, it's a form of intelligence to know how, if you know you're really dumb, that kind of makes you pretty smart.
Isn't that crazy to think about, though, like, there are people and plenty of people that genuinely, seriously have no self-awareness.
None.
Yeah, and I envy them.
Do you think it's actually a better life?
Um, no.
no
because if you have no self-awareness
well no there's like a happy medium
they're saying ignorance is bliss
no there's a thing is too much
self-awareness
definitely you can get paralysed by it
yeah
so you need to be self-aware
but also
be cool
self-aware but not too
ignorant
yeah because if if you're
if you're way
like you got no self-awareness
then I mean
I guess ignorance is bliss
because you might not realize how much of
a dickhead you are
or like how fucking annoying
you are yeah
you know
but if you genuinely don't care
that other people see you that way
then it is blissful
no but
if you knew you might care
so the people
that know, but don't care, are very powerful.
The people that don't know and don't care
because they don't know.
But surely a lot of them have sort of personality disorders.
Which ones?
All of them.
Well, there's personality disorders across the whole borders.
True.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Disorders across the borders.
Desartes.
Nah, I can't.
You can't what?
I'll carry him.
I'll carry on.
Harry King says, hi Jha.
What's the most embarrassed you felt for another person?
Myself
That's not another person
How do you say yourself
Everyone feels embarrassment about themselves
Second we school me was a completely different person
And Jesus Christ
Cop out
No because everyone in their right moments say that
No but I was next level
Nah if they don't say that
Then they're one of those people that are the saddest type of person
not self-aware
If you weren't
If you weren't cringy when you're a fucking teenager
No, I'm actually trying to answer the question properly now
Right
Are you one of those people that
Like when someone starts
Like saying something just totally wrong
You'll just sort of go along with it
me
both of you
it depends who is saying
and what they're saying
no but I mean
I mean like if they just don't get
the right thing
like you're talking about something and they misinterpret something
and
no I don't know if it
if it was a complete
misinterpretation I would normally make an effort to correct
what you'd go
you fucking idiot that's not what I was saying
you twat
you'd say that
would you actually yeah
well this is why I was saying it depends
of what is being said
if you're like
what does this have to do of embarrassment
okay fucking forget it then
I just won't talk
well I'd say like a second hand
embarrassment for the person
who accidentally opens the door to people
so when you walk part
you see they've opened the door
because they've thought with someone else
and it's like they've just walked down
into like hell
you know like I don't know
I should I name bomb them
what the fuck
The J.Ws?
If you accidentally open your door to a J.W.
And you actually go locked into that conversation.
Oh, a Jehovah's Witness.
Yeah.
If someone else sees that, it's like, I get like the embarrassment for them because that was like they fuck that.
I almost kind of met like COVID murdered the whole Jehovah's Witness.
They haven't.
Absolutely not.
No, because they used to kind of regularly be around here and I kind of found it fun to engage with them.
But I haven't, I haven't seen one of those door knockers for a long time.
me needh me need
um
most embarrassing
most embarrassing
see this is
the only time
I don't know I don't
I don't get embarrassed for other people like that
no but I think there's like a
because I genuinely don't care a lot of the time
no but no I think there's two levels
because it's like oh I'm genuinely
embarrass you but it's like I'm embarrassed
you but you're dick and you deserved it
and this is an example which like calm me
it's always that guy who's like trying to be really cool
and then they like blow their car up and it's like
because then I'm embarrassed for you but you'd kind of
deserve that you twat yeah
I see that a lot so that's like my
yeah I that's a very satisfying type of
secondhand embarrassment where someone's like
showing off and it just blows up in their face
yeah true yeah that is satisfying
nothing's really
jumping into my mind right now, even though I'm sure
there are plenty of examples.
Hmm.
So that's my thing.
I love being in like weird, awkward, strange scenarios, as long as I have no
like personal investment in that scenario.
So if it's like my family members doing something,
someone I'm like directly attached to, that's when I'll have an issue.
But if I'm outside of that,
zone I'm just happy just existing like just observing you know like a weird
statue just like a baby just soaking in info you know the thing is as well you
you don't like cement other people's embarrassments into your brain yeah you're
gonna remember your own embarrassments way before you remember others yeah and when
your brain is clogged with embarrassments
then I got an awesome name clogged with embarrassment
I can't have room for anybody else's embarrassment
Yeah
One of mine is when Jamie misinterpreted
Anarchy
Really embarrassing
I mean when I perfectly interpreted
And dumb, dumb anarchist
Jarm Media listeners got it wrong
Yeah
Nice one, idiots
Man likes Grice left one for us
That's an awesome name
Man like Grice
Does media like movies,
video games and YouTube get worse as you age
I feel like we're in a down period for all of them at the moment
or is it just that I'm more mature now
and therefore don't allow myself to enjoy shit content
and Mooglatan replied to that saying
we're just so overstimulated now
that not only do we appreciate art less
but the people who make art are also less enthused
not true at all that's weird
I would say that's like...
You don't think we are overstimulated
because I 100% agree with that
but what they said after
I think that's a really really doom alive view
the part about the people make art
are less enthused
Yes, that's completely wrong
And it's like, but we do appreciate art less though
No
Yes
I, well
Who, who's we
Are you talking about the general public?
Yeah, the broader
The consumers
The consumers
Yeah, TikTok ruin the consumer
Twitter ruin the consumer
What's you talking about?
I appreciate art
And I appreciate...
It's a beautiful view of empty wilderness
and a gorgeous...
A landscape.
A gorgeous sky.
Is that art?
Yes.
Well, appreciating the environment.
It's nature's beauty.
I wouldn't call it art, but yeah, it's nature's beauty.
Why is it not art?
Because nobody even created it.
Because, yeah, it's Mother Nature's creation.
It's not like a human...
But are humans not Mother Nature's creations?
creating
Shut up
No, that's my point
I'm sitting here like appreciating art
in its finest form
Now actually why is Paisley not art
She is art
Look at her
When you're asked to define art
It does get stupidly abstract and annoying
Like that
Yes
But in the context of what we're talking about
Where this is like entertainment
which is like a different kind of art
because it's blended with
um
you know money
yeah
making it less art
I guess there's an argument for it
but
but I was charged money
for this bit of art
yeah and it ruined her
it ruined her
yeah
you're a product
no but I
Moog commenting about overstimulation
I feel like that's such a big thing right now
Moog
yeah they left the comment about saying about
we're just so overstimulated now
that we appreciate art less
I feel like that's true
it is true
you know you walk up to a painting
in a museum
or a gallery
and you're like scrolling on it
you're like trying
you're trying to like it
yeah trying to double tap on it
This is boring compared to that awesome TikTok I saw.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
This just comes back to the EMP plan.
No, but this is, this is, this is what I'm saying, though.
You, you climb up a hill and you look at a cloud.
Is that not art?
No, no, stop, stop.
It is art when you post it on Instagram, get 500 likes and you feel good about yourself.
That's when it's up.
It was really, it was really hammered home to me.
where we're at some like family gathering
and our uncle
who has two young kids
was talking about
yeah like they don't even really care about
like watching movies or anything like this anymore
what they care about is watching people on YouTube
talking about it or recapping it
more than actually
like watching the thing
and surely that is like a mark
of overstimulation in a certain way
where it's like
the content stream
the attention economy
but
but
yeah I think
I think
I think the human race
has doomed themselves
into
this genuinely makes me depressed right
because I was not expecting
art to be fucking destroyed
by AI as quickly as it's
happening.
Yeah.
We're already on the borders of that.
Where like...
I know an AI generated.
Where you can type like concepts into a fucking machine and then it can generate images.
Like sure it's like a joke at the moment.
But like that's early... in five, ten years, what's that gonna look like, you know?
So that in my mind is like, well...
That's gonna take me like years to get that good.
When a fucking AI can just do it in like two seconds.
like two seconds. No, but the AI has no, no emotion to it. But that doesn't matter. It's an
algorithm. It does matter. Why? It does matter. You can tell. There was like a competition that was won
by an AI the other day. Yeah, but, but fucking Andrew won the Wallace and Gromit competition by
stealing somebody else's artwork. But that's stolen. How's that better? But, but creating an
image out of an algorithm, mashing images together is stealing other images.
competitions don't mean shit
if it's all about like
how perfect the brush strokes
It wasn't though
It was like a digital art competition
And an AI won it
Because a guy was just like
I'm gonna generate some images
Hmm
Yeah
But if it makes you feel something
Is it not art
No but
We're getting to this creepy
Deus X level of
Like, technology's, you know, it's too far, man.
It's not too far.
We've got to release that E&P.
It's not far enough.
It's not far enough.
I won't.
Because there was this drama over like, I think it was someone that worked at Microsoft
that was like, it's going to be great when we have AIs that can run 10,000 instances
of a game in the cloud and sort bugs.
And there was like a pushback against that.
But that's like an example of it being kind of like a good idea, surely, for, um...
For making games?
Yeah, for making games and things like this.
Yeah.
But...
I don't think that sort of thing kills art.
Why?
Well, why does it?
what is automation isn't it yeah like I always envisioned automation being more like
to first go for more kind of manual labor type stuff like driving like factories
things like this you know with the bird robots that Boston dynamics are making
that can move shit around with you say that's a precision you say that's a good thing
no
I thought that's where it would begin though
I didn't realize it would go straight for
no but that images
no but that's happening
the beginning that was the beginning
yeah
but that's what I'm saying
how is this good is what I'm saying
no no no no this is the thing
this is someone goes off
but every every civilization collapses
our civilization will fail
is within the next hundred years
because of AI
when AI gets so
so fucking smart what's the point in humans
they will live a better life
the AI will live a better life by killing all
humans and that's what's going to happen
no that's some bullshit
why would AI care about living a better life though
well no that's my fucking what I said
but it's like why would the AI need
humans if they're that smart
they don't
there's no point for humans at that point
there won't be point in most people having
jobs within the next 20 years because
AI's going to be so good
The AI are coming for us.
That's not how it works, though.
Okay, explain.
I was just trying to generate AI art.
I want to circle back to algorithm art.
Yes.
Are you saying its existence reduces the art of others?
Once we're at a point where technology can
create or replicate art beyond.
or to the exact level
that a human can
then it's like
we've like been out evolved
by something we've made
you know
but I mean
there's an argument to be made
that AI would be an extension
of us
that it is us
it's like us
burden
that AI is made by human
so it's like
it's like a god
creating something
in the image of itself
like we're gonna
if it has
has a mind it will think like hours because that's what we know yeah well i'm picturing it as like
a i guess like a boomer at this point in terms of like internet whatever like if i think the
the real danger isn't with the like art being devalued but entertainment being perfected
like it yeah but if that's what i mean though like once we're at a point where you can download an
and because like of how mathematical stuff like music compositions are or any number of things that you can just like randomize it on like an app and then it like just makes a story for you it just makes a perfect album for you does that not devalue its concept like once we're at a point where like Disney doesn't
even need humans to be making Marvel movies anymore this is what I was saying about
entertainment being perfected where like like TikTok it is an algorithm-based
thing and it's incredibly addictive so like when AI gets to the point where it can
because like we're already at a point where like so many companies you call up
you don't speak to a human you speak to a robot say your postcode and we'll put you
forward you know well I and when you look in movies and like the new Pinocchio
just CG monsters, like, walking around.
Yeah, but that's all handcrafted.
The thing is, the script was definitely written by an AI.
Get Chris Pine in there.
No, I'm gonna counterpoint.
Make AI good.
Until it can make the pre-ecals, but good.
I want an AI generated.
That's the end of civilization.
Then people aren't going to watch anything else.
They're going to see Darth Jarja.
No, no, it'll be a point of, like, we can, as humanity,
we can just be like,
Okay, we're done. We've created the Mona Lisa.
Surely that's the extension when like technology is so good
where you can like in some kind of like app or website or whatever you type
a new hope but instead of Luke is Jar Jar and it's like just perfectly like rendered and like
created and you can just watch it.
The new hope but layer is Pokemon.
No, but that how well exists?
That's deep fake.
How is this like?
A dystopia, this sounds fucking glory.
Yeah, Avengers, endgame, but instead of Thanos, it's Darth Vader.
Well, surely, like, sex work is going to be destroyed.
Because if you can do that, it's just like...
All work is going to be destroyed.
Yeah, that's what we're saying.
No, but it's like, deep fake porn is a way of a big thing,
but it's just like, you don't, you now don't even need a, like,
a porn star, you just need any person
because you can just deep fake whatever face on wants.
It's like porn will be non-existent,
it's just all AI, like, oh, honestly...
Yeah, all the Rule 34 guys were way ahead of their time.
Yeah.
Like this kind of...
Did you see the drama about...
I'm pretty sure we had the AI discussion, literally a few weeks ago.
Yeah.
And you just stopped talking about AI.
You know what...
The Pixar movie Wally,
where it's kind of like an automated future
where it's just like humans are just like blobs on floating chairs
and just robots do everything.
Yeah.
there was a
drama the other day
because the company
Criterion
announced that they're doing a Wally
release
release
Yeah
they're doing a Criterion of Wally
What you mean?
What's Criterion?
Criterion is a game studio
and make racing games
No no no that is true
but it's a company
that releases really high quality
transfers of movies
And when a movie gets a criteria on, it's like a really high production value, good transfer, all the best special features on a Blu-ray.
Okay.
It was announced the other day that Wally is going to be on one.
And then it kind of devolved into this weird discussion about how Wally is fatphobic and that it shouldn't be encouraged and stuff like this.
we're getting hung up on this AI conversation we move on
that's that's like genuinely a concern there and it's like genuinely a concern
there and it's like it's a good movie because of like the profoundness of it
with it being a kid's film mm-hmm because that is a that is a that is a that is a
a reality like
that you you look at the average
weight of people as time has gone on
like the more privileged we've become
the heavier our lives are yeah
yeah the heavier we've become
and for to follow that like to its finality
with a dash of like sci-fi
that's what woolly is
I think that's
uh
I find it so frustrating though
every single thing that comes out is like a drama
yeah everything
all the rings Wally
Last of Us all of it
Don't go on Twitter then
Or YouTube
You see drama if you're trying
If you're like in the circles that are going to cause drama
I don't see drama all that much
Don't lie
because the end of the day
the people who are retreating drama
will be tweeting or following dramas
you're going to get the algorithm is going to push it on you
cut those out and you're not going to be
that algorithm is not going to push drama on you
on YouTube
I follow nothing drama related and I see nothing
drama related on YouTube
but I didn't see this on YouTube
you see it on Twitter
Reddit
exactly so if you cut out the people involved in drama
you treat drama like stuff
if you cut out that section
the algorithm is not going to recommend you that section
everything you see on social media
it's not the system, it's you
stop blaming the system for pushing stuff
when you cut out that
and you'll get it. It's no longer
in the show of communities though. The algorithm is not going to
push content on you if you don't have that bubble
that it can connect. If it sees
some connection to the drama there
already, it's going to push it to you because you're the
people sharing who's going to engage.
Because I want to see like movie news. I love movies.
I want to see stories being shared.
But all
it's shared is just shit about Lord of the Rings
fucking Wally
being fatphobic
shit like this
So what I just don't read
movie news
No, but then you've got kind of accept that that's what you're going to see
Pushed on your feeds when you have that hobby
Or you're more in that interest
So just don't be on the internet
Just disconnect
No, I'm not saying that at all
But I'm just saying like you can't always be like
Oh all I see is drama
Because if you I don't see drama
You do see drama
On my Instagram all I see is cars
because I only follow cars
I don't see anything else
Instagram isn't the drama one
no there is drama on
there definitely is drama on Instagram
and the drama I see
on Twitter's art related drama
J.A.I. Generated art because I follow
loads of artists so obviously
it's a I'm already in there
so it's going to see that. They changed it years
ago so platforms
like Twitter they don't show your insular
communities anymore now they show you trending
tweets. Now they'd show you stuff from outside your community. You can turn that stuff off.
What trending tweets? Yeah. I think so.
It's a toggle. I'm pretty sure if you go into the settings.
But you kind of want to see that stuff so you can get angry. Yeah. That's that's like Twitter's
little um. They all do that though because it engages engagement. Yeah. Even if it's not
there, you just want to keep reading. You know?
You're not liking or commenting or retweeting, you're just reading.
Scrolling.
Doom scrolling.
Yeah.
Don't do that.
But we all do it though.
I don't.
You do.
When do I ever, when dooms scroll?
Oh, I'm doom scrolling besides some really sick S-15s and skylines.
Oh, I'm so, I'm so unmotivated and blackpilled.
I'm not.
Blackpild is like being a doomer.
It's blackfield.
Five year plan
Bro, I'm not
I'm not for the five year plan anymore
What's your plan?
Ten year plan
Yeah
I disagree with you two on everything there
You do, let's just leave it at that
That's fair
Yeah, Mr Contrarian
Oh I just found a comment
That actually addresses the anarchy thing
Should I bother?
Yeah, don't get true, Jamie Wong
fucking do it
RMV17 says
I know words take on different meanings throughout its existence and that there may be an entry in some dictionaries for anarchy as synonyms of chaos,
but anarchism as a political philosophy doesn't stand for nothing.
It instead has a very concrete goal.
The closest it gets to joker thought is modern libertarianism,
which by advocating for personal freedom over the well-being of the community would certainly end up leading into chaos.
Anarcho-capitalism is also really dumb,
but it has the concrete goals of deregulating the market to suppose,
make anyone who is willing to put in the hours as wealthy as they want to be.
Social anarchism may seem at first glance contradictory, not as contradictory as being
libertarian and also being pro-life though, but is really the one that you should look into if you want
to an elaborate philosophy that opposes power structures which goes beyond just advocating
for complete personal freedom and instead pursues equality and a community.
let's look at this logically it's impossible to destroy power any type of power hierarchy
because it's human nature there's always going to be those who above everyone else
that's literally just the way humans work the fact that there's like the different types of
anarchy like in the baseline of anarchy
is rejecting the powers that be.
So if you're an anarchist, it's like a contradiction.
Even if you're an anarchist that stands for something,
it's pointless because you're revolting against the powers that be
in the hopes of overthrowing it and becoming the new powers that be,
and then you're going to have anarchists that want to do the same.
isn't that just like a constant cycle in history though
yeah that's human it's human history it's humans
you everyone wants power
yeah so it's pointless so you can't you can't destroy power
because there will be power to overtake power
and once someone who doesn't want power
gets power they're corrupted by power
so now they're the power
imagine there's no countries
so we do need to be just robots
Yes, exactly.
Hmm
Humans are too flawed
So we need...
You know, humans are absolutely flawed
No, this is what I'm saying, man
This is what I was saying
Before, we plug our brains into the one brain
And the brain
Chooses it'll floor
A mega my seat
No, but boy, what about if I want
To rebel against the brain
Well, why, you're part of the brain
Yeah, but by far want to do different things
Than the brain
Well, the brain will be like
Robot Bird
I don't want to be
What, okay, you're at
Robot Bear, Robot, Robot,
Oh, is this fact...
It's right back, maybe.
Not back to the rhino.
No, okay.
Yeah, that is...
That means that everyone is always satisfied with their life, which means nobody will rebel.
Which means the one power being the brain is always in power because everyone's satisfied.
Whatever.
No, but, but do you know of the philosophy that we are one?
The one brain philosophy?
Not the one brain philosophy.
Like...
So, so...
The stuff that makes up stars, right?
Stars.
Gunge.
Slyne.
Light gunge.
It's the same shit that makes us.
I'm made of gunges?
And everything around us.
Yeah.
So we are literally all the same.
Like, everything is just made of the same shit.
Okay, what's that?
So we are everything and everything is us.
So we should just suck up.
So we brain plug into the big brain and we all are the big brain.
So there's no more like...
The big brain is just a tab of LSD.
But everyone on the planet takes it at the same time.
Right, come on.
So we need to assimilate everyone.
Join that the one vein all get quashed.
But you could argue
that the only reason we have like problems,
like interpersonal problems,
international problems is
not understanding each other
you brain plug into the same thing
where you're no longer speaking in English
or German or French or
You're speaking in thought
You're speaking in code
binary
F dong
zero one
You can convey ideas and shit
without needing language
It's like just immediate interpretation
You understand where I'm coming from
and what I'm thinking
So what is that we're saying
we should just
literally be robots
Why should we
No we shouldn't be individuals
The human condition
shouldn't be a thing
Humans shouldn't exist
No I'm saying
Individuality is what makes us human
That is everyone
The Queen
What about if she was
The one brain
And what about if now that she's gone
It's all gonna crack
Well now Charles is the one brain
Yeah
Honestly let's just become immortal
through the mega my seat
there's changed
is that a Resident Evil thing
yeah
cringe
uh oh cringy
uh jackaboose is annoyed at you jim
jim mentioned that people are complaining
that Eldon Ring isn't enough like Dark Souls
because it's built around summons
the thing people are complaining about with Eldon Ring
is that beating bosses with summons
isn't as fun or engaging
because just getting a tank to grab agro
while you wail on a boss's ass
isn't engaging gameplay
if the game is built around this
instead of the dark
slash demon source style of boss
we're learning the boss's attacks and animations
and doing it solo was encouraged
and it was since it was
since if you played offline
there were several bosses that had no summonable
NPCs it leads to poor boss design
and boring gameplay which can be seen in Eldonring
and the fact is significantly lower boss quality
than Dark Souls 3
more people enjoy it so therefore
it's better
I said it about myself
I find when we're talking about games in a cast
I always rush my thoughts and try and get them out
as fast as possible
I didn't mean to say if I did
that like summons are
what you're meant to do for every fight
because it is a lot of fun to perfect shit
and that there are problems with the bosses
that weren't in Dark Source 3
I have more fun with the bosses in DarkSource
3 because of the way it's designed but just because of that difference in design
doesn't mean that it's better or worse it means you prefer one or the other think
about it comparing it like you would compare Lords of the Fallen or whatever
the fuck it was called that rip-off Dark Souls compare that to Ashen yeah it's like
comparing different games it's not like
like why did they differ from doing this before they were doing something new
who were changing it that's the way i look at it and just because i prefer the way it was
done in secura or dark souls or bloodborn is irrelevant there are aspects of elden ring
that are better that they were obviously focusing on more they wanted more of like a co-op
shit going on in aldermring like it's it's in all the ads and shit is like co-oping yeah
there's a big influence on that
and my favourite thing about Eldon Ring
my first play through was using messages
and summoning people
because the interaction with other people
is a huge... That update they added
a month or a few weeks ago or whatever
where you can put your sign down
and it was summon you anywhere
to whoever needs you
when I've been playing it a little bit
that's been really fun
really fun you're just someone
some random part of the game
and you're just helping someone with a certain boss
that's awesome and fun to me
yeah exactly and I
I think Dark Souls
always wanted to
have that
that element emphasized
yeah and they've
they've pushed that further with Eldemring
and I feel like
it may be kind of cheap the way they did it
but they've made people want to use summons
yeah I feel like it's just
one of the things you have to sacrifice
for a certain level of broadness and scope.
But I do agree to a certain
level that like
every boss in Sakura
is like a moment.
Yeah, every single one.
But there are loads of throwaway bosses in Aldermereo.
Loads.
Yeah, but Sekiro was obviously designed
with that intention.
Yeah.
With you having a one-on-one,
like there's a zero co-op in the game.
They added messages in an update.
but again it's like one on one
so then they went the total opposite
where it was like we're gonna just do
crazy shit but they want
I like that there's the whole gambit available though
like if you want all these certain itches
scratched you can go play Dark Souls through it you can play
Sekara yeah you can play Aldermring
yeah 100%
but if I want to play any of them
co-op it's gonna be Oldham Ring
that shit is so fun
and with the build diversity
you don't need to play every different type of build
but when like I remember early on
when I was playing I summoned a guy called like
I'm one of the ninja turtle names
and he yeah he had like a turtle shell on his back
which was the shield and he had like the cloak thing up to his
I summoned Dumbledore the other day
a wizard right
it's like badass shit
Shit, and people do...
It makes moments, and I think those moments are more important to Eldham Ring than, like, godskin duo.
Which is bad.
Which is shit, yeah, by all accounts.
Hopefully in the Dio-Soo they had the Godskin trio.
And the Godskin Quartet.
James, that's end on this one.
It's for you, from Sven.
This might be a bit too.
invasive of a question, but what the heck does James do for a living?
From what I gathered, it involves cars, storage management,
desk work, and production of stuff at a large company.
I'll build robots.
It builds the robots that are going to take us over.
Yeah, it's all me, baby.
No, I build robots.
James builds the one brain.
Yeah, I build, I'm, I'm building the mega my seat as we speak.
Me build robots, me work on cars.
We'll see you next time.
And if I know Del Domain, it'd actually be a game that isn't clunky and shit.
Do you want to make me a coffee please?
Can you use the cocoa pod and make me a coffee?
Make me an espresso!
Open the door!
Open the door and make me a coffee.
Use the cocoa truffle one from the kitchen.
Eh!
Ha!
Ha!
Ah!
I don't know.
You know,
So,
I don't know.
I don't know.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You know,
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm
