JAR Media Posdact - ABYSMAL Beyond - JARCast Episode 291

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 02:41 Robert Zemeckis Pinocchio is Horrendous 10:01... The Queen Died 33:11 Housekeeping 39:00 Joe Pasquale Real Cost 48:19 Reddit Questions 48:46 UK Election Haiku 49:22 Something people WRONGLY Assume 53:12 Most Embarrassed You've Felt For Another Person 58:00 Is Media Getting Worse? 1:16:43 Ararchism as a Political Philosphy 1:22:23 Elden Ring Critique 1:27:31 What does James do for a living?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Stop! Okay, good afternoon, morning, evening all night, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this episode of Khaas, me, Juba. Yes. We have to use that one. We haven't have one that good in a while. Yeah, that was fresh. I'm your host, Alex, joined by James and Jim.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Hi. James is in a great mood today. I'm always in a great mood. On this 291st episode. We are still 100,500 episodes behind Joe Ogan. We'll get there. We'll get there. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Should we just name the next episode like one above him? So we become the longest running podcast? Is he the running pongest? We might be able to catch up if every cast we no longer release. a full cast once a week we record and then cut it up into like 10 podcasts or 14 podcasts and do
Starting point is 00:01:08 two a day. Yeah. That's basically what Joe Wogan does. Make it like episodic, even more episodic than it already is, you know? Yeah, so you can actually... And we can have like cliffhangers within them. Yeah, we should do if you talk about have cliffhangers. Well, how long can YouTube shorts be?
Starting point is 00:01:23 10 seconds... Surely it's a minute, right? No, it's like three minutes. They can be quite long, yeah. If it's like three minutes, we could do a whole cast over shorts. No, but that's the thing. We'd also be, we'd get, by doing that, we'd half the algorithm and become like Joe Rogan level. Because the meta is short.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, you just add the, um, TikTok, br-brown, brown song. Yeah. What's the bram-bram song? Like, when someone's saying something crazy, like, the intellectual song. In Antarctica, there's a hole that leads to the inner earth where the dinosaurs still roam. That's where the meg's going to be released.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah. Before we get too deep into the show, let me shout out the journal media patrons to make the audio version possible and get their names read out in the first or second week of every month. Thanks, everybody. Why are you looking at your watch, feeling bored?
Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah. Ready to get out of here. Oh, yeah. Look at you, Mr. You know, Klinger! I'm going to get rid of Twitter and Instagram because I look at my phone too much, so I'm going to put a phone on my wrist
Starting point is 00:02:25 and look at that all the time. I was looking at my rings, bro. Oh, he was looking at his rings. His rings of power. Any ring of a power, I don't know, belongs to James' dad. So, um, I posted a review of,
Starting point is 00:02:44 uh, the Robert Zemeca's, Pinocchio. I watched a bunch of this film. Did you? I posted it on, um, letterboxed. Um,
Starting point is 00:02:57 and there was like a comment that was like, Really, Alex? The day after the queen dies? No, this is a funny, um, co-con kinky-dink. Um, next year is Disney's 100th anniversary. And they want to see how quickly they can destroy their legacy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 What did you think of what you saw of Pinocchio? I got about halfway through and got like two, fed up. It's, it's, it's abysmal beyond. It's, it's beyond abysmal. It's like these Disney remakes, there's a pile of them now. They're growing and they're getting stronger. Like the trailer came out for the little mermaid like today or yesterday. That's the next one that's coming. Oh my God. Um, and it looks awful. Um, but, but they know. They know it's bad. Yeah. They all have to be like, like the, the, the colors have to be like all dimmed and dark to make the CG look better because they're just these like synthetic monsters but but what I found with
Starting point is 00:04:05 this one was that like everything that was real like Tom Hanks on the green screen he was like really dark and uh textured and detailed and then Pinocchio was stood there like a shining beam of light like right next to him it was like a PS1 graphic yeah it looked like um like the the the CG before you boot up crash bandicoot too yeah yeah it's exactly like that it looks so bad I briefly went on the original Pinocchio because that's also on Disney Plus just to like refresh my memory because I remember liking it as a kid and just that tiny sequence of
Starting point is 00:04:51 of the cricket getting into the house to warm himself it's like so simple so clean Like he just like You just popped under the The door or whatever But in the in the Robert Zemeckis It's like a Like it's like
Starting point is 00:05:08 Every scene is an excuse to be an amusement ride And it's honestly exhausting And creepy as hell And like not in the way that it should be You know Like for some reason There are three James There are three Pinocchio movies
Starting point is 00:05:23 Coming out this year Three What? Yeah There's the awful Disney one There's some other, like, really random animated one that's getting clowned on because whoever's voicing of Pinocchio sounds like incredibly camps that was being like clipped and made fun of for that.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But there's a Netflix, Guillermo del Toro directed Pinocchio movie, which looks awesome. There's a trailer for it on YouTube. Like, all the character designs look so cool. Like, the production design is obviously, like, top-notch because it's like his whole forte. why do we need why do we even need one Pinocchio beyond the original yeah I feel like Yale Mayor could do something
Starting point is 00:06:05 I think it actually is a cool story though while I was watching the Robert Zamakas one I was like being reminded of how cool of a story Pinocchio is like a really good kid's story but layering metaphors if it's Del Toro where's the Macs he pretty much is a he's a robot Mac no but where's the mex where's the
Starting point is 00:06:25 He's Astro Boy, dude. He is Astro Boy. Where's the mex? But it's like, the way, the way they embellish, like, every detail where it's like, yeah, random side characters, now they have to have, like, exposition and their own song. And, like, you've got to explain everything. It's like, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:46 How far did you get? Did you get to the smoke monsters? Skip past the smoke monsters. Did you really see the donkey scene? No. But I watched the whale scene and that shit was fun. Yeah, they made it like a weird, like... Yeah, it's like a squid monster.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah. A photorealistic squid monster. And Pinocchio does like the Incredibles thing. Yeah. He's like a superhero. Yeah. Like is that a thing in the original like with him lighting his feet on fire and stuff? And like, there was kind of like a steampunk thing going on.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Like Tom Hanks when he's like, Like, he wakes up from a bad dream and turns the lights on. Instead of just lighting a candle, there's this whole like... And there's this like complicated mechanisms like all going off. Because it has to be cool and modernized and steampunked. And like every single creature in the movie has like a different art direction. A different style of anime. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Like Pinocchio is just the two-D movies design in 3D. But then like, The fish is like from something else entirely. The fish is freaky. And the fox? Then the fox is like from something else. Yeah, he's like realism. Then there's the whale, which is from something else.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And then there's a talking seagull just from someone else. It's like, oh, dude, it was actually so horrendous. This actually undoes Forrest Gump. Yeah, I think, I think. The trilogy of Polar Express, Christmas Carol, and now this. The three scariest, unintentional horror movies. Disney isn't the only one destroying their legacy.
Starting point is 00:08:41 They got Zamaki doing it, too. Did you like the Chris Pine joke? That was admittedly really funny. Did you notice who played the cricket? It was Robin. yeah Joseph Gordon Leavitt why he's like
Starting point is 00:09:00 supposed to be a cockney geese doesn't it well he's his his voice he does for the movie is so annoying and the voice of Pinocchio is so annoying like
Starting point is 00:09:10 the budget is apparently 150 million they actually pissed it they just pissed it down the drain I bet you're just gonna make money it's on Disney Plus yes on Disney Plus I think
Starting point is 00:09:23 my theory that they wanted it to be another like Lion King type situation like just get a big name director put it in the Disney plug-in whatever like machine that like shits out this weird live action quote-unquote version of a classic then it makes a billion bucks but then they were seeing how it's coming together and I'm like oh yeah bloody hell let's sneaky release this one yeah let's try and hide this one I haven't really seen any marketing for it either It's the only one that I've seen on, like, release day, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And it came out the day the queen died. Yeah, the queen died. Yeah, I guess we can talk about that. Yeah. Because I went to see, I went to the movies yesterday to see bodies, bodies, bodies. And, like, I just was not anticipating it. But right before the movie began, a splash screen of the queen in total. silence
Starting point is 00:10:23 like it filled the screen with like a profile of her saying queen Elizabeth and everyone was like there was this weird energy in the room of everyone was there and they were like everyone was like trying to hide their laughter because it was like so just like so right before this like horror movie that's about to eat Davidson yeah like it wasn't
Starting point is 00:10:46 like expected and I was just like Pete Davidson actually in it yeah Pete Davidson's in it he told me that yesterday and I thought me that yesterday and I was a joke I feel it's like it actually is yeah he's actually just straight up in it he was around it too the real horror store of his life is Kanye
Starting point is 00:11:01 getting Kanye's kids tattooed onto his body but yeah that was quite a weird moment and it was just it was kind of a like like is this kind of like insane sort of moment like
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'm no royalist by any means but I'm also I've not seen social media light up in this kind of way for a while. Nothing but Queen memes. Yeah. Threads of all the evil things
Starting point is 00:11:30 the Royal Family has done. Hopefully so. Spread all these threads. Let everyone know how evil they are. Even on Facebook on car groups are banners for fucking car groups. Japanese car groups have banners dedicated to the Queen Elizabeth. I got an email that was like
Starting point is 00:11:48 Marks and Spencer's they were like our statement on the queen what's Mark's what's Mark and Spencer's opinion they were like I went on it on the email and it was and it was like just what you'd expect but it was signed from from your family at Marks and Spencer it's like fuck off yeah give it a rest I don't particularly, yeah, I just don't particularly care. Do you not just see it though as like an old lady dying?
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah, as well. I see it, it's the same as like a celebrity dying. No, but the queen is more important than celebrity. Because a celebrity is just a celebrity, but the queen is royal. Well, she's had more people murdered. I couldn't stop thinking about, the main thing I couldn't stop thinking was about was like, how much are they going to spend on that funeral? while we're in the middle of a
Starting point is 00:12:52 cost of living crisis that hasn't been seen since like the 70s 80s Yeah My opinion is It is kind of For the culture I think it is a sad
Starting point is 00:13:07 moment For British culture But At the same time I don't care yeah because like I was when the story
Starting point is 00:13:24 start coming out being like the queen is the health team around the queen are worried about her and then it just
Starting point is 00:13:33 started trickling out over the hours then I put the live stream up on my PC and there were people like hordes of people gathering outside of Buckingham Palace where she wasn't even
Starting point is 00:13:46 she wasn't even there but I guess it's a similar symbolic thing or whatever all these people outside like putting their arms up like this to the sky hordes of people some of them in tears the the uh they're like the royal historian or whatever kept being like interviewed some some guy who's like an expert on the royals or whatever was like on the news and he the way he was like talk he was like he could barely talk because he seemed like he was about to break down and then you have people being like there was like a news anchor who was saying something like the cost of living crisis pales in comparison to the weight of what's
Starting point is 00:14:30 happening here and it's like well i think it's really inconsiderate of the queen to die now yeah i think you're right the the UK is in a particularly shite place and the queen's yeah you know when literally on the Monday of the same week that the queen dies we get a new prime minister yeah the worst of um the the run the run so far in the 12 years but saying that um our new prime minister has a passion for cheese and what was the quote again uh the uk import with the uk imports like 60 percent of cheese but she calls it like disgrace or something no but this is the thing like how how what was you can't use data like 60%, 50%, 30%,
Starting point is 00:15:18 we need exact context of what they're referring to because there's absolutely no fucking way we import that much cheese. We make fucking loads of cheese here. What's the context of this data? It's like the most weird things anyone's ever said. Do we like make Hulumi here? Do we make Brie here?
Starting point is 00:15:37 And also why is it an issue? Yeah, this is the thing. It's like, okay, well, if we make like a load of chat. We do. We absolutely make a load of cheddar. Because we like invented cheddar. So we make... Just say it with confidence and then it's true.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah, we make a lot of cheddar, right? We make heaps of cheddar. Parmesan is actually British. Did you know that? Parmesan is British. But... But cheddar is like one cheese of many cheeses, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So if people are buying a variety of cheeses, one of them might be British of course we're going to import the rest yeah that dude yeah because the Italians make Parmesan if we make Parmesan it would just be shit Parmesan so why would you buy the shit Parmesan when you can just import the good Parmesan like we don't only eat one type of cheese so maybe the Queen did we keep talking about cheese in Italy or whatever
Starting point is 00:16:40 and that's something they kept annoying me about Pinocchio it's supposed to be set in Italy There's one Italian actor in it And there's this weird scene where this like There's this young girl with a really strong Like modern London accent And it's really bizarre The puppeteering lady Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah she's like full on cockney No not cockney It's not cockney It's way more like contemporary London Yeah Not cockney Yeah When you base anything in old times
Starting point is 00:17:13 like it can be anywhere it could be like Istanbul but if it's made by Americans they'll slap a British accent on it and that just like covers all basis yeah true but yeah because then
Starting point is 00:17:27 the Queen dying discourse is now developed into like everything does into this like two sides thing you know where it's like Jeremy Clarkson tweeting about how people on Twitter are just no no no he's not on about people who's on about socialists the socialists on Twitter on
Starting point is 00:17:43 are the bad people here. No, he's talking about socialists. Because socialists hate the queen. So every socialist is a horrible human being. Yeah, so it's just like so split and it was like this maelstrom of 9-11 memes, Trisha Paitas memes. Those are good though.
Starting point is 00:18:03 The Tricia Pateaus memes are great. It was like, oh my God, this is a lot. I don't understand caring to the, the degree like it's part of like a monarchy is the the current one will die and the next one will take its place it's late yeah I understand the I guess the the split I have is like yeah I don't like the monarchy and she does represent this she's symbolic for that ongoing like power structure that's just been there for hundreds of years but then I can't not see her as just an old woman dying yeah but also like Batman she might be more of
Starting point is 00:18:54 a symbol a symbol than a person I don't agree with the symbol I think to a lot of people she represents something really good and that's what I mean by what did what does she know but what does she represent this really good like charity and serving um her people But, no, but this is the thing, how did she serve her people? Like, what, what do you mean by that? She cut, um, the ribbon to open the bridge and shit. That's not, no. It's just like we, we, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:27 It's like, people say that the warriors have like a responsibility and a job, but it's like, they only have that job because they're the world. You just created jobs around their royalty that we don't need those jobs. There's no benefit of those jobs that they do. Internationally, they do have power. Yes. They have sway. like with relationships across countries and she did stuff like um in the AIDS crisis
Starting point is 00:19:51 she had like pictures taken like actually holding hands of someone in hospital who had AIDS which helped like change the no their job has always been public relations yeah it's public image no but also international relations so I I don't think it's right to say her existence was evil because we have those public relations and international relationship with the Prime Minister. That's their actual job, is that. So if you get rid of the Queen and the World Family, you still have that job being done
Starting point is 00:20:21 by the people who actually will the country. I guess the thing for me is, like, can you say with confidence that she's like an evil person? You know? Like, I feel like it's more complicated than that. Yeah, it is complicated, but obviously, there's a whole... There's... Anyone, like, if you nitpick the bad things they've done,
Starting point is 00:20:43 then their legacy will be that they're a bad person if you only look at the good things they've done then yeah but that's not to say that it's not also crazy
Starting point is 00:20:54 that we have a royal family that is regarded with the import that it does to this day to be under a monarchy but again it's a weird cultural thing
Starting point is 00:21:10 in this country and I guess we're just ultra aware of because like in the 80s or whatever you're not seeing the whole world's take on it you know where of course like with social media and everything you're seeing what Americans think you're
Starting point is 00:21:25 seeing what other people in Europe think you're seeing you know like a more global kind of opinion but globally I feel like the royal family is loved more by foreigners than do you think so I feel like in in their country though it's fairly split
Starting point is 00:21:41 like a lot of people like love the royal family like i drove to swindon the other day after she had died and the amount of like flags union jacks hanging that were half half sale or whatever the fuck you call it um in tribute to her it's like i i i guess i'd never even noticed those flags really being there but in but noticing them being half down it's like go i guess like people really care about this I don't get it, because are people like born and it's like the expectation that because you're British, you have to love the Queen? Like, I don't understand my own parents that they're just like, they get angry at me whenever I say anything negative about the Warriors because it's like, oh, they're the Royals, they're, you know, you should have, it's like an expectation that you should like them and I don't get it. So how can you cry over the Queen's death? I don't understand. Like, you're not, they're not close to you. They're the Queen. They're just a figure. I don't, I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I don't understand it. Yeah. I think about like, from her perspective, it is crazy to have been in power and seen like every prime minister from like Churchill all the way to Liz and meeting all of them and interact through all of that history. That's wacky. But like, I've got no fondness for the institution. Yeah. and the kind of like classism is really bad in the UK that to me they always like a representative of that you know millions of different like spoons and cutlery they have and other you know what I mean like it is representative of that um
Starting point is 00:23:25 the kind of excess and the the manners everywhere and going to all the different castles and yeah you know well I I find with the more classical stuff I can I don't really care so much. It's more when you get someone like Prince Andrew. Yeah, who literally abuses the lower class using his elite class status. Whereas, I feel as the queen herself, I think it's really pathetic that the whole royal family
Starting point is 00:24:04 just brushed out shit under the road. No, that's the thing. they haven't there's one man who hasn't the fucking king the king has not burst that aside because his plan all along since the Andrew thing is to call the family he's killing he's like not killing off because he's very good at that
Starting point is 00:24:19 he's good at killing off he's going to cut the royal family down all of the extended world family's gone they're not wars the king is doing this yes Prince Charles won and that's because of the Andrew thing and Prince Andrew's probably one of them he wants to slim the world family down to like the main ones
Starting point is 00:24:35 William Perry which if he does fucking fair play to him absolutely the wide job yeah that's the most important thing any world was done it as of yeah because that whole Andrew situation was just another reminder of oh
Starting point is 00:24:49 so I guess these people it's just completely different rules for you guys yeah well that that brood so much hatred for me for the royal family because then it's just like if that's what if it has to be that bad for us to find out
Starting point is 00:25:04 about it what else is going on you know that we'd never even find out about. What do you think of the theory that she's been dead way longer than we know? Well, she hasn't. But there have been pictures taken from the last few weeks.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah, the trust. AI. No, legit. You go back and look at that public speech she had. What, the Jubilee one? Yeah, if that's not a deep fake, I don't know what it is. Yeah, but then if you're feeding inside,
Starting point is 00:25:36 you're also feeding into that, you're also feeding until Liz Truss has been selected as the Prime Minister months ago years ago. Why? There's videos of her meeting the Queen, like the last week. But she did meet the Queen the last week. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She did. So they would have
Starting point is 00:25:50 had to... Yeah, like a sock puppet queen. So if the Queen's been dead... A weekend at Bernie's queen. Yeah. She was 96 to be finished, so... If the Queen was dead, that means. I remember seeing a video of her cutting a cake. Right?
Starting point is 00:26:04 she got the she was using like a sword to be fair but she got this this blade like halfway down the cake and she was like bro I'm done I can't cut more in this cake she has 96
Starting point is 00:26:18 you try and cut a cake when you're 96 no I know but it's like no but this is the conjoous thing who wants to live till 96 if I've seen half a century that fuck I'm done I'm good I'm ready to go how old do you think humans are meant to live
Starting point is 00:26:34 for. I was thinking about this. Yeah, like 30, 40. You think that young? Yeah. What do you mean by meant? Like, meant? Like in a, like a, yeah, I don't know what you mean by meant. Well, just like. Science has made us live way longer than we should.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I was, I was, I was feeding, I was feeding Billy last night. And I was like, she, she eats the same thing every day. Right. Yeah, I think about that with the dogs sometimes. As the human race, we struggle. We get these scientists, dieticians. We, like, studying the effects of food. And we just feed our pets, like, some slop in a bowl.
Starting point is 00:27:21 It's like, so if we had slop in a bowl, like, meat, jelly, veggie slop. Would we be fine? Yes. Yeah. Every day, the same thing. Well, as long as you're getting your nutrients, you'll be fine. Bro, I feel like early man before we had like civilization and the technology.
Starting point is 00:27:48 But you only lived till, like, fur, if that. Yeah, but imagine what, imagine like what they were eating. Just whatever they could, like fat, like mammoth fat or whatever. You know? Mammoth fat stew. Do you go? what I'm saying there's the thing you shouldn't be feeding your cat like the same thing all the time well I'm not I got her the she likes it and she she she are you supposed to
Starting point is 00:28:14 top for her as the rats and the mice and the birds no but I are you supposed to feed cats human food they're not allowed that are they because dogs you can just give them any sloppy you and they're fucking love cats aren't really interested in human food they they only really eat meat but you're not supposed to give dogs anything they can't have like onion guys I was a bit of fucking onion I hate, I, that's gotta be bullshit. Don't give your dog a grape now. No, it's not bullshit.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But why, why? I'm sure some dogs. Alacolos apparently really bad for dogs. Like, asbestos is really bad for humans, but a tiny bit every now and then, it's probably fine. What? We don't use asbestos anymore, do we? Wasn't it like an 80s thing? Yeah, it was a facture thing.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Like lead pencils and stuff. No, but what... No, that's the thing that Liz Tross is bringing back up spestos. UK made asbestos. But, but, but,
Starting point is 00:29:11 but what I'm trying to say is... What are you trying to say? Yeah, what are you trying to say? We don't even know what to eat. You do, I just open my cupboard and see, like, oh, we don't,
Starting point is 00:29:22 we don't know... Tasco tells me what to eat. We, all right? We don't know the perfect thing for human. Yeah. Meat and veg. It's not meat.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Meat, veg, a bit of potato. That's not meat. And all these. studies have been done to see what no humans on the planet just eat plop in a bowl slop in a yeah they do they do probably a lot of people
Starting point is 00:29:44 who every day they eat like a can of beans or something and that's what they eat bro people survive living off rustlers yeah there's some I guarantee there's someone out there who eats rustlers every day yeah they're gonna die only
Starting point is 00:30:00 who cares you know that's not my point is that how how long a human supposed to live for 40 50 60s meant to what the how do you mean in in nature look have we taken medicine and food knowledge too far yes we're like we're supposed to eat things that slowly kill us like bananas monkeys eat bananas for days that shit has like potassium but they have other things that end their lives like fighting over territories and stuff Yeah, we used to have that and we don't anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So now it's Big Burger? Yeah, it's Big Burger till you die. Big Burger, yeah. But do you understand where I'm coming from? No, not at all. How? Was the Queen meant to live till 96? No.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Is anyone meant to live till 96? No, but it was like some, I was looking at this. Like, there was some like French king who ruled for like, 70 plus years hundreds of years ago it was like 1800s or something you know which is crazy so I'm surprised
Starting point is 00:31:12 he didn't get assassinated because he's French I saw a funny comment on the last cast because people were getting upset with you Jim for talking about anarchy oh yeah you got some things wrong
Starting point is 00:31:26 boy some things really and people are like yeah you've just with jar like if they talk about something that isn't fucking Pinocchio on Disney Past. No, come on anarchist.
Starting point is 00:31:41 What are you saying? It's about the destruction of the institutions and the establishment, but it's like three. So Fight Club? I don't, I'm not talking about anarchism because I don't know about it. Everyone knows about it because it's fucking nothing. I saw one comment that was like, it's not nothing. No, I saw a comment that was like, yeah, I got equally upset when they were talking about conspiracy theories. 9-11's just a fact
Starting point is 00:32:06 and you can't even like you that what did it happen yeah yeah I'm inclined to agree I'm inclined to agree I'm going into this one brother I'm like no I need to know what these anarchists are saying now
Starting point is 00:32:20 well go on a YouTube If you're an anarchist leave a nice little comment and we might include it in housekeeping No no no no stop stop Stop Stop they literally did what you're asking them They didn't they didn't know They didn't.
Starting point is 00:32:34 They did, someone literally... They did the classic YouTube comment. No, they did, I've got a problem with this, and I'm not going to expand. You obviously did not look at the comments, because someone clearly explained that this is actually what anarchism is, because I read it. It said that, sorry, about the replacement of the systems, and it's, like, self-loved by, like, communities. That's not anarchy. Well, you read the comments. I'm not, I'm not talking about anarchy.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I'm a capitalist, okay? I like capitalism. Finally. Yeah, we stripped the flesh away and what is left bare. Yeah. I'm not sad and bruised. You're royalist as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Yeah. So, like, let's just quickly do housekeeping before we go to mid-break or whatever. This is where we kind of wrap up conversations from the previous episode. I've only got two, so don't worry. It's brief. Gabe B said, honestly prefer the cast
Starting point is 00:33:27 without housekeeping segment. Windows XP, autumn wallpaper is a superior choice, replied to that saying, I only listen to housekeeping and skip to the patron segment unless there's a discussion on shit I don't want to hear it That's actually the canonical way
Starting point is 00:33:44 To listen to JAR Yeah and you'll still have Hundreds of hours of content But what do you think No if you actually consider that there's only 291 hours Two 300 hours of JAR media content To actually listen to
Starting point is 00:33:56 No no there's more There's been multiple episodes That have been two, three hours long There hasn't There has what about the Yo yeah That wasn't a multi-hour episode Yeah, it was, it was like three, four hours long
Starting point is 00:34:07 It's the longest cast What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, with the Mystic Bean Giff, what did we do? I think that was the Harambe No, no, no, no, no, stop, stop An episode, one was really long, artificially, Artificially, yeah, it's Mr Bean being Drake or whatever
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's content, some people No, no, no, no, no, that's not, that's content Because people watch the Jarcas playlist And they say they have panic attacks when they get to that episode and it wakes them up no come on that's not actual content
Starting point is 00:34:37 yes it is no it's not anything can be content no but the conversation is housekeeping thoughts do we cull do we call
Starting point is 00:34:47 no I think um we should only do it when we should so you don't you don't want no no stop
Starting point is 00:34:58 we should only do it when Jim fucks up No, but I did I didn't fuck up though, I was right So I did a post on the community tab On the Jarm Media YouTube saying Should we remove the housekeeping segment Like yes, no sometimes
Starting point is 00:35:16 Which you can participate in if you want to And we can address this again But so far no is winning by 57%. So So people want it. People want it. Yeah, look, some of the comments on that thread. The housekeeping segment, this is Ryan Forbes.
Starting point is 00:35:37 The housekeeping segment is one of my favorite parts of the cast. The interaction with the audience and comments is what separates it from every other podcast. Thank you. That's what I like about it. Or, yeah. Daniel Terry says makes each episode feel like a continuation of a running discussion, keep it going fellas. Or Jack Diamond, who says, I live for the housekeeping segment, waiting each week to listen to people's inane, insane, insane. or interesting questions as well as getting to hear my own
Starting point is 00:36:03 is what keeps me from turning into a cringe version of the joker called the cringer. Don't subject your poor subscribers to go through the degenerate app, aka Reddit, to be able to have their voices heard. And then Mojo Mustard said, I think only if it's about something that James, that disprove something that James said in the episode,
Starting point is 00:36:26 then include it. That's just all you do anyway, is favoritism. Alex making Jamie and himself look bad? No. Alex making mean look bad? Yes. Not true. You do that yourself, brother. I know, I do. There's a point where At least I didn't get anarchy wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I didn't. I've googled what anarchy means. Okay. Right. Definition. Stat of disorder Due to absence or non-recognition of authority or other controlling systems. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Okay. So it's a rejection of authority. Irrelevant of what the authority is. But then you hear these crazy terms like, I'm an anarcho capitalist. I'm an anarcho-socialist.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I'm an anarch. James is the fucking knock. I am the narwhate. Uh, I make you think I'd get all this more car parts from, boy. Can we get in all the juices this episode? This is, my my favorite thing on the planet is when
Starting point is 00:37:28 is when I'm right, you know, and then you Google it, and then you're double right. No, but that's actually everything you say, because you can just believe yourself. No, that's, that's... Suck your dick at all times and you're always right. No, you know, like, Buddhists believe in this, like, ascension of self, like you become truly serene, you know? You become truly sorenine. You know? Banana sorreen or...
Starting point is 00:37:55 Like enlightenment, you know? I think enlightenment. is when you're able to gaslight yourself into believing whatever you do is right. When you start believing your own lies? Yeah. Do you not? Do I believe my own lies?
Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah. Is that what we all just do anyway? Some of them, yeah. Other ones know. And that's why I'm... And an archaic capitalist. Dylan says, So you're telling me James sits down to pee in the toilets at work,
Starting point is 00:38:25 where he's previously said none of his co-workers washed their hands, and he sees dribble and spit on the floor make sure to wash them thighs James And then you think You think this is like a fucking own on me Are you a fucking man who doesn't wipe the toilet seat Before you sit down
Starting point is 00:38:42 I can't Are you bringing anti-bacterial wipes everywhere you go Or you just wipe? No you just get you get you get the toilet paper I think you go Oh Blu to the break.
Starting point is 00:39:00 We mentioned a few episodes ago that someone was trying to message James about seriously getting Jopasqualee to come on the cast. And I actually got the details on how much Joe Pascuali charges to appear on a podcast for one hour.
Starting point is 00:39:16 What do you think it costs, Jim? I know how much it costs. James knows. A grand, two grand. Five grand. Oh, go up. Keep going. Keep going More 50 grand
Starting point is 00:39:32 12 and a half No it was 15 grand Oh yeah It's 12 and a half 15 grand plus VAT No it's 12 and a half plus that That's half someone's yearly wage On an hour podcast
Starting point is 00:39:43 One hour feature of Joe Pascuali on your fucking podcast So he only has to do three a year And he's I'm gonna be honest I don't think he's doing one Who's actually getting For those prices, fuck no This is what old media annoys me so much the way they do this.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah, they think they're so valuable. Yeah. I'm Joe Pascuali. I'm the dog in that fucking advert. Yeah, well, guess what? You're worth no more than fucking him, him or me. You cocks, I'm going to say this. Before it became a funny jar meme,
Starting point is 00:40:15 I didn't know who the fuck Joe Pascuale even was. And the majority of people in the UK don't either. Joe Pascali, sit the fuck down. That's a lot of money. That is a lot of money. 15 grand for one hour. That's an RB-26 swap in a C-35 low, boy. Now we can use this, though, to our advantage.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Patreon goal. No, I'm thinking... No, how does capitalism work, right? You've got competing businesses, like, let's say this company sells nachos for five pounds. Well, the next one's like, well, you know what? We're going to do it for £3.50. Do you know, like, like, VidConn and the... kind of events some people do pay a fee to like turn up but yeah I'll go
Starting point is 00:41:03 there if you pay me a few grown and they do it um if you want us to show up at your strip club no this is what I'm saying we'll be like I'll be on your podcast for an hour for 10k we'd just if there was like some random guy some random like trust fund kitty that's like um And like, they're like in Saudi Arabia. They like love the jack up. They pay it as 10 k each. They're like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:41:34 I love the cast so much. I'm willing to pay you guys a hundred grand each to come and do a podcast. Come and shit on him. To do it. Yeah. If all of you come and do it podcast while you do a shit on me. No. A hundred.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Fuck yeah, though. Jesus Christ. 300 grand. 300. You wouldn't do. You seriously would. I couldn't do that. I can buy like two cards. Oh wow, look at you. I'm going to buy
Starting point is 00:42:01 two cards, my 100K. Well, yeah, I'd do it, but then... I, well, it's like, no, if you want John Medell on to do anything for you, just give us a message and be for hire. Yeah, for a lot of money. We'll show up at 11s in Chippling for you if you want.
Starting point is 00:42:21 No, but apparently, um... Maybe that's like a business, people... I was talking to someone who knows someone who worked for a short period of time in Harrods in London young woman Saudi Arabian like princes would come up and just
Starting point is 00:42:36 propose like random fucked up shit to her like what like shitting? I don't know if it was quite shitting but like let me suck your toes for 20K it's like fuck me you can suck my toes for 20K
Starting point is 00:42:51 that's no that's genuinely so unfair honestly if I don't want to just suck my toes at 20k let me know I've got will you supple feet no if if I had the opportunity to shit on someone and they pay me a bunch of money like who would say no
Starting point is 00:43:09 especially if we're talking five six figures yeah total privacy like they're embarrassed about it they just want some random person who like if they say something well what the fuck does their word yeah because these people they're dealing with wealth on a level
Starting point is 00:43:25 that no one can comprehend No, they've gooned themselves so hard on, like, real, like, flesh that they're so bored, they want poop here. No, but it's just like, if someone did approach me in London, it was just like, okay, do this weird sexual act for me. And it's just like, if you're going to pay me a shit a ton of money, I'm going to do it anyway. Even if it's a couple G, I'm going to do it. I've watched a bunch of documentaries recently, the software underbellies. Yeah, yeah. On pimps.
Starting point is 00:43:55 and they said something that or one of them said something that was really like like it made me hard to rationalize my previous thinking what do they say he was like a lot of people will be like
Starting point is 00:44:16 I'd never sell my body my body's like worth too much to do that and he's like well why do you give it away to people for free? Would you give you a house away to someone for free? You know? Would you give your car away to someone for free? Body is currency. But it can be currency. It literally, like this is
Starting point is 00:44:38 capitalism bad. Because literally anything is worth something. Yeah. Well, no, that's why virginities are worth hundreds and fucking millions, man. People will pay for virginity. people will pay for like if if they got nothing else then they just want like a human like a human can be valued as money the same as a dog or a cat you're getting into human trafficking stuff here boy i'm not saying i'm for this i'm not saying this is a good thing but i'm saying like things objectively do have monetary value including your own body
Starting point is 00:45:29 oh absolutely my body has value no literally no no even as a I want a consent to selling my bodies do this it's just like you're literally the instruments the machines the mechanics
Starting point is 00:45:44 the parts that you're made up of are still worth money sell your kidney sell your arm so your eyeballs they're literally worth money you this has been a thing that there was that there was that infamous case in the UK where that guy, like, he posted it on
Starting point is 00:45:58 Craigslist or whatever, he was like, I want to eat someone. And someone actually replied to it. That was in Germany, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it was in Germany. Yeah, they just posted like, I want to eat something. Yeah, I want to eat something. Yeah, someone actually showed up and they ate them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It's bonkers. It was like, there was that guy, like, in London who was known as, like, he would pay people to have them like stand on their face. or something like put their feet their dirty disgusting feet like all over his space and that's just what he liked and it's just known for that but that's the thing like markets are crazy mm-hmm it's a crazy concept that James how
Starting point is 00:46:44 much is James worth because these pimps got got me some ideas well I wouldn't want to do anything for not not money, you know? You want to do anything for not money. If someone offered me 500 quid, probably not. Depends what they're asking. If it was for feet pictures. Oh, 500, 500, you can have feet pictures all day on demand.
Starting point is 00:47:09 But, like, if you want me to suck a dick, I'm going to need a fair bit more money than that. Like straight up. Sucking a dick for money's not gay. It's money. Gay for pay. Gay for pay. So if a Saudi...
Starting point is 00:47:22 If a Saudi prince was like James, K, suck me now. Absolutely. Really? I'm sucking and swallowing for 100K. All right. What about 50K? Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:34 If I can afford some wills with whatever they pay me, sure. Honestly, I'll just quit then. If it's more than 999 pounds, I feel like you can get James to do most things. True. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm trying to save up for an engine top of the moment. We don't need anything, you know. I'm open. All right. We'll see after these messages. Beah! You fucking...
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Starting point is 00:48:28 we've got some good questions that was a quiet one normally you scream I think he shit himself a bit did he shit and piss yourself a little bit to keep it in we have a good one that I actually prepared for because it involves haiku
Starting point is 00:48:51 Clara Bellum says express your feelings about the result of the UK elections but in haiku form. So I wrote a little haiku guys. Okay do it. Go shoot. In Liz, we don't trust. 12 years, Cameron, May, Boris. Please just let it end. Nice. Not fair though. Why? All right. Hallory says, hi Jha. What's something people seem to misunderstand or assume about you?
Starting point is 00:49:29 I thought I'm got a contrarian, generally. It's like, oh, James is like a contrarian, all he ever does is disagree with people. Yes, I do. What do you think, Jim? About James. Yeah, what about me? Tell me what you think about me. Lay it all down.
Starting point is 00:49:47 James's car isn't as cool as people think. Absolutely true. We don't disagree with that. voice the question again what's something people seem to misunderstand or assume about you yeah no generally the contrary thing for me that I'm calm really
Starting point is 00:50:06 yeah I think the amount of like Discord calls and like calls I've been in with people where they're like oh you're like way more quiet than I thought you were I'm one of those people I much prefer listening and taking in what someone's saying to me as opposed to dribbling out my own things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 You know? I think people think I'm less stupid than I am. Hmm. I think I've done an all right job at making myself... Look intelligent. Look not too dumb. But are you saying you are dumb? I'm saying I'm dumber, like it...
Starting point is 00:50:47 I may look dumb but I'm dumber than I look. Do you know what I mean? Hmm. I know what you mean. I didn't know what you meant earlier, but this one I know what you mean. But in a way, it's a form of intelligence to know how, if you know you're really dumb, that kind of makes you pretty smart. Isn't that crazy to think about, though, like, there are people and plenty of people that genuinely, seriously have no self-awareness. None.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Yeah, and I envy them. Do you think it's actually a better life? Um, no. no because if you have no self-awareness well no there's like a happy medium they're saying ignorance is bliss no there's a thing is too much
Starting point is 00:51:34 self-awareness definitely you can get paralysed by it yeah so you need to be self-aware but also be cool self-aware but not too ignorant
Starting point is 00:51:49 yeah because if if you're if you're way like you got no self-awareness then I mean I guess ignorance is bliss because you might not realize how much of a dickhead you are or like how fucking annoying
Starting point is 00:52:04 you are yeah you know but if you genuinely don't care that other people see you that way then it is blissful no but if you knew you might care so the people
Starting point is 00:52:22 that know, but don't care, are very powerful. The people that don't know and don't care because they don't know. But surely a lot of them have sort of personality disorders. Which ones? All of them. Well, there's personality disorders across the whole borders. True.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Disorders across the borders. Desartes. Nah, I can't. You can't what? I'll carry him. I'll carry on.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Harry King says, hi Jha. What's the most embarrassed you felt for another person? Myself That's not another person How do you say yourself Everyone feels embarrassment about themselves Second we school me was a completely different person And Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:53:37 Cop out No because everyone in their right moments say that No but I was next level Nah if they don't say that Then they're one of those people that are the saddest type of person not self-aware If you weren't If you weren't cringy when you're a fucking teenager
Starting point is 00:53:56 No, I'm actually trying to answer the question properly now Right Are you one of those people that Like when someone starts Like saying something just totally wrong You'll just sort of go along with it me both of you
Starting point is 00:54:19 it depends who is saying and what they're saying no but I mean I mean like if they just don't get the right thing like you're talking about something and they misinterpret something and no I don't know if it
Starting point is 00:54:35 if it was a complete misinterpretation I would normally make an effort to correct what you'd go you fucking idiot that's not what I was saying you twat you'd say that would you actually yeah well this is why I was saying it depends
Starting point is 00:54:49 of what is being said if you're like what does this have to do of embarrassment okay fucking forget it then I just won't talk well I'd say like a second hand embarrassment for the person who accidentally opens the door to people
Starting point is 00:55:04 so when you walk part you see they've opened the door because they've thought with someone else and it's like they've just walked down into like hell you know like I don't know I should I name bomb them what the fuck
Starting point is 00:55:15 The J.Ws? If you accidentally open your door to a J.W. And you actually go locked into that conversation. Oh, a Jehovah's Witness. Yeah. If someone else sees that, it's like, I get like the embarrassment for them because that was like they fuck that. I almost kind of met like COVID murdered the whole Jehovah's Witness. They haven't.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Absolutely not. No, because they used to kind of regularly be around here and I kind of found it fun to engage with them. But I haven't, I haven't seen one of those door knockers for a long time. me needh me need um most embarrassing most embarrassing see this is
Starting point is 00:55:53 the only time I don't know I don't I don't get embarrassed for other people like that no but I think there's like a because I genuinely don't care a lot of the time no but no I think there's two levels because it's like oh I'm genuinely embarrass you but it's like I'm embarrassed
Starting point is 00:56:13 you but you're dick and you deserved it and this is an example which like calm me it's always that guy who's like trying to be really cool and then they like blow their car up and it's like because then I'm embarrassed for you but you'd kind of deserve that you twat yeah I see that a lot so that's like my yeah I that's a very satisfying type of
Starting point is 00:56:31 secondhand embarrassment where someone's like showing off and it just blows up in their face yeah true yeah that is satisfying nothing's really jumping into my mind right now, even though I'm sure there are plenty of examples. Hmm. So that's my thing.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I love being in like weird, awkward, strange scenarios, as long as I have no like personal investment in that scenario. So if it's like my family members doing something, someone I'm like directly attached to, that's when I'll have an issue. But if I'm outside of that, zone I'm just happy just existing like just observing you know like a weird statue just like a baby just soaking in info you know the thing is as well you you don't like cement other people's embarrassments into your brain yeah you're
Starting point is 00:57:30 gonna remember your own embarrassments way before you remember others yeah and when your brain is clogged with embarrassments then I got an awesome name clogged with embarrassment I can't have room for anybody else's embarrassment Yeah One of mine is when Jamie misinterpreted Anarchy Really embarrassing
Starting point is 00:57:51 I mean when I perfectly interpreted And dumb, dumb anarchist Jarm Media listeners got it wrong Yeah Nice one, idiots Man likes Grice left one for us That's an awesome name Man like Grice
Starting point is 00:58:06 Does media like movies, video games and YouTube get worse as you age I feel like we're in a down period for all of them at the moment or is it just that I'm more mature now and therefore don't allow myself to enjoy shit content and Mooglatan replied to that saying we're just so overstimulated now that not only do we appreciate art less
Starting point is 00:58:26 but the people who make art are also less enthused not true at all that's weird I would say that's like... You don't think we are overstimulated because I 100% agree with that but what they said after I think that's a really really doom alive view the part about the people make art
Starting point is 00:58:44 are less enthused Yes, that's completely wrong And it's like, but we do appreciate art less though No Yes I, well Who, who's we Are you talking about the general public?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah, the broader The consumers The consumers Yeah, TikTok ruin the consumer Twitter ruin the consumer What's you talking about? I appreciate art And I appreciate...
Starting point is 00:59:10 It's a beautiful view of empty wilderness and a gorgeous... A landscape. A gorgeous sky. Is that art? Yes. Well, appreciating the environment. It's nature's beauty.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I wouldn't call it art, but yeah, it's nature's beauty. Why is it not art? Because nobody even created it. Because, yeah, it's Mother Nature's creation. It's not like a human... But are humans not Mother Nature's creations? creating Shut up
Starting point is 00:59:42 No, that's my point I'm sitting here like appreciating art in its finest form Now actually why is Paisley not art She is art Look at her When you're asked to define art It does get stupidly abstract and annoying
Starting point is 00:59:59 Like that Yes But in the context of what we're talking about Where this is like entertainment which is like a different kind of art because it's blended with um you know money
Starting point is 01:00:13 yeah making it less art I guess there's an argument for it but but I was charged money for this bit of art yeah and it ruined her it ruined her
Starting point is 01:00:30 yeah you're a product no but I Moog commenting about overstimulation I feel like that's such a big thing right now Moog yeah they left the comment about saying about we're just so overstimulated now
Starting point is 01:00:45 that we appreciate art less I feel like that's true it is true you know you walk up to a painting in a museum or a gallery and you're like scrolling on it you're like trying
Starting point is 01:00:58 you're trying to like it yeah trying to double tap on it This is boring compared to that awesome TikTok I saw. Yeah. No, yeah. This just comes back to the EMP plan. No, but this is, this is, this is what I'm saying, though. You, you climb up a hill and you look at a cloud.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Is that not art? No, no, stop, stop. It is art when you post it on Instagram, get 500 likes and you feel good about yourself. That's when it's up. It was really, it was really hammered home to me. where we're at some like family gathering and our uncle who has two young kids
Starting point is 01:01:38 was talking about yeah like they don't even really care about like watching movies or anything like this anymore what they care about is watching people on YouTube talking about it or recapping it more than actually like watching the thing and surely that is like a mark
Starting point is 01:02:00 of overstimulation in a certain way where it's like the content stream the attention economy but but yeah I think I think
Starting point is 01:02:17 I think the human race has doomed themselves into this genuinely makes me depressed right because I was not expecting art to be fucking destroyed by AI as quickly as it's happening.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah. We're already on the borders of that. Where like... I know an AI generated. Where you can type like concepts into a fucking machine and then it can generate images. Like sure it's like a joke at the moment. But like that's early... in five, ten years, what's that gonna look like, you know? So that in my mind is like, well...
Starting point is 01:02:55 That's gonna take me like years to get that good. When a fucking AI can just do it in like two seconds. like two seconds. No, but the AI has no, no emotion to it. But that doesn't matter. It's an algorithm. It does matter. Why? It does matter. You can tell. There was like a competition that was won by an AI the other day. Yeah, but, but fucking Andrew won the Wallace and Gromit competition by stealing somebody else's artwork. But that's stolen. How's that better? But, but creating an image out of an algorithm, mashing images together is stealing other images. competitions don't mean shit
Starting point is 01:03:33 if it's all about like how perfect the brush strokes It wasn't though It was like a digital art competition And an AI won it Because a guy was just like I'm gonna generate some images Hmm
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah But if it makes you feel something Is it not art No but We're getting to this creepy Deus X level of Like, technology's, you know, it's too far, man. It's not too far.
Starting point is 01:04:08 We've got to release that E&P. It's not far enough. It's not far enough. I won't. Because there was this drama over like, I think it was someone that worked at Microsoft that was like, it's going to be great when we have AIs that can run 10,000 instances of a game in the cloud and sort bugs. And there was like a pushback against that.
Starting point is 01:04:35 But that's like an example of it being kind of like a good idea, surely, for, um... For making games? Yeah, for making games and things like this. Yeah. But... I don't think that sort of thing kills art. Why? Well, why does it?
Starting point is 01:04:59 what is automation isn't it yeah like I always envisioned automation being more like to first go for more kind of manual labor type stuff like driving like factories things like this you know with the bird robots that Boston dynamics are making that can move shit around with you say that's a precision you say that's a good thing no I thought that's where it would begin though I didn't realize it would go straight for no but that images
Starting point is 01:05:36 no but that's happening the beginning that was the beginning yeah but that's what I'm saying how is this good is what I'm saying no no no no this is the thing this is someone goes off but every every civilization collapses
Starting point is 01:05:50 our civilization will fail is within the next hundred years because of AI when AI gets so so fucking smart what's the point in humans they will live a better life the AI will live a better life by killing all humans and that's what's going to happen
Starting point is 01:06:05 no that's some bullshit why would AI care about living a better life though well no that's my fucking what I said but it's like why would the AI need humans if they're that smart they don't there's no point for humans at that point there won't be point in most people having
Starting point is 01:06:21 jobs within the next 20 years because AI's going to be so good The AI are coming for us. That's not how it works, though. Okay, explain. I was just trying to generate AI art. I want to circle back to algorithm art. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Are you saying its existence reduces the art of others? Once we're at a point where technology can create or replicate art beyond. or to the exact level that a human can then it's like we've like been out evolved by something we've made
Starting point is 01:07:06 you know but I mean there's an argument to be made that AI would be an extension of us that it is us it's like us burden
Starting point is 01:07:18 that AI is made by human so it's like it's like a god creating something in the image of itself like we're gonna if it has has a mind it will think like hours because that's what we know yeah well i'm picturing it as like
Starting point is 01:07:33 a i guess like a boomer at this point in terms of like internet whatever like if i think the the real danger isn't with the like art being devalued but entertainment being perfected like it yeah but if that's what i mean though like once we're at a point where you can download an and because like of how mathematical stuff like music compositions are or any number of things that you can just like randomize it on like an app and then it like just makes a story for you it just makes a perfect album for you does that not devalue its concept like once we're at a point where like Disney doesn't even need humans to be making Marvel movies anymore this is what I was saying about entertainment being perfected where like like TikTok it is an algorithm-based thing and it's incredibly addictive so like when AI gets to the point where it can because like we're already at a point where like so many companies you call up
Starting point is 01:08:44 you don't speak to a human you speak to a robot say your postcode and we'll put you forward you know well I and when you look in movies and like the new Pinocchio just CG monsters, like, walking around. Yeah, but that's all handcrafted. The thing is, the script was definitely written by an AI. Get Chris Pine in there. No, I'm gonna counterpoint. Make AI good.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Until it can make the pre-ecals, but good. I want an AI generated. That's the end of civilization. Then people aren't going to watch anything else. They're going to see Darth Jarja. No, no, it'll be a point of, like, we can, as humanity, we can just be like, Okay, we're done. We've created the Mona Lisa.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Surely that's the extension when like technology is so good where you can like in some kind of like app or website or whatever you type a new hope but instead of Luke is Jar Jar and it's like just perfectly like rendered and like created and you can just watch it. The new hope but layer is Pokemon. No, but that how well exists? That's deep fake. How is this like?
Starting point is 01:09:58 A dystopia, this sounds fucking glory. Yeah, Avengers, endgame, but instead of Thanos, it's Darth Vader. Well, surely, like, sex work is going to be destroyed. Because if you can do that, it's just like... All work is going to be destroyed. Yeah, that's what we're saying. No, but it's like, deep fake porn is a way of a big thing, but it's just like, you don't, you now don't even need a, like,
Starting point is 01:10:19 a porn star, you just need any person because you can just deep fake whatever face on wants. It's like porn will be non-existent, it's just all AI, like, oh, honestly... Yeah, all the Rule 34 guys were way ahead of their time. Yeah. Like this kind of... Did you see the drama about...
Starting point is 01:10:38 I'm pretty sure we had the AI discussion, literally a few weeks ago. Yeah. And you just stopped talking about AI. You know what... The Pixar movie Wally, where it's kind of like an automated future where it's just like humans are just like blobs on floating chairs and just robots do everything.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah. there was a drama the other day because the company Criterion announced that they're doing a Wally release release
Starting point is 01:11:11 Yeah they're doing a Criterion of Wally What you mean? What's Criterion? Criterion is a game studio and make racing games No no no that is true but it's a company
Starting point is 01:11:22 that releases really high quality transfers of movies And when a movie gets a criteria on, it's like a really high production value, good transfer, all the best special features on a Blu-ray. Okay. It was announced the other day that Wally is going to be on one. And then it kind of devolved into this weird discussion about how Wally is fatphobic and that it shouldn't be encouraged and stuff like this. we're getting hung up on this AI conversation we move on that's that's like genuinely a concern there and it's like genuinely a concern
Starting point is 01:12:14 there and it's like it's a good movie because of like the profoundness of it with it being a kid's film mm-hmm because that is a that is a that is a that is a a reality like that you you look at the average weight of people as time has gone on like the more privileged we've become the heavier our lives are yeah yeah the heavier we've become
Starting point is 01:12:39 and for to follow that like to its finality with a dash of like sci-fi that's what woolly is I think that's uh I find it so frustrating though every single thing that comes out is like a drama yeah everything
Starting point is 01:13:05 all the rings Wally Last of Us all of it Don't go on Twitter then Or YouTube You see drama if you're trying If you're like in the circles that are going to cause drama I don't see drama all that much Don't lie
Starting point is 01:13:23 because the end of the day the people who are retreating drama will be tweeting or following dramas you're going to get the algorithm is going to push it on you cut those out and you're not going to be that algorithm is not going to push drama on you on YouTube I follow nothing drama related and I see nothing
Starting point is 01:13:39 drama related on YouTube but I didn't see this on YouTube you see it on Twitter Reddit exactly so if you cut out the people involved in drama you treat drama like stuff if you cut out that section the algorithm is not going to recommend you that section
Starting point is 01:13:53 everything you see on social media it's not the system, it's you stop blaming the system for pushing stuff when you cut out that and you'll get it. It's no longer in the show of communities though. The algorithm is not going to push content on you if you don't have that bubble that it can connect. If it sees
Starting point is 01:14:09 some connection to the drama there already, it's going to push it to you because you're the people sharing who's going to engage. Because I want to see like movie news. I love movies. I want to see stories being shared. But all it's shared is just shit about Lord of the Rings fucking Wally
Starting point is 01:14:25 being fatphobic shit like this So what I just don't read movie news No, but then you've got kind of accept that that's what you're going to see Pushed on your feeds when you have that hobby Or you're more in that interest So just don't be on the internet
Starting point is 01:14:41 Just disconnect No, I'm not saying that at all But I'm just saying like you can't always be like Oh all I see is drama Because if you I don't see drama You do see drama On my Instagram all I see is cars because I only follow cars
Starting point is 01:14:54 I don't see anything else Instagram isn't the drama one no there is drama on there definitely is drama on Instagram and the drama I see on Twitter's art related drama J.A.I. Generated art because I follow loads of artists so obviously
Starting point is 01:15:13 it's a I'm already in there so it's going to see that. They changed it years ago so platforms like Twitter they don't show your insular communities anymore now they show you trending tweets. Now they'd show you stuff from outside your community. You can turn that stuff off. What trending tweets? Yeah. I think so. It's a toggle. I'm pretty sure if you go into the settings.
Starting point is 01:15:37 But you kind of want to see that stuff so you can get angry. Yeah. That's that's like Twitter's little um. They all do that though because it engages engagement. Yeah. Even if it's not there, you just want to keep reading. You know? You're not liking or commenting or retweeting, you're just reading. Scrolling. Doom scrolling. Yeah. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:16:00 But we all do it though. I don't. You do. When do I ever, when dooms scroll? Oh, I'm doom scrolling besides some really sick S-15s and skylines. Oh, I'm so, I'm so unmotivated and blackpilled. I'm not. Blackpild is like being a doomer.
Starting point is 01:16:19 It's blackfield. Five year plan Bro, I'm not I'm not for the five year plan anymore What's your plan? Ten year plan Yeah I disagree with you two on everything there
Starting point is 01:16:39 You do, let's just leave it at that That's fair Yeah, Mr Contrarian Oh I just found a comment That actually addresses the anarchy thing Should I bother? Yeah, don't get true, Jamie Wong fucking do it
Starting point is 01:16:51 RMV17 says I know words take on different meanings throughout its existence and that there may be an entry in some dictionaries for anarchy as synonyms of chaos, but anarchism as a political philosophy doesn't stand for nothing. It instead has a very concrete goal. The closest it gets to joker thought is modern libertarianism, which by advocating for personal freedom over the well-being of the community would certainly end up leading into chaos. Anarcho-capitalism is also really dumb, but it has the concrete goals of deregulating the market to suppose,
Starting point is 01:17:22 make anyone who is willing to put in the hours as wealthy as they want to be. Social anarchism may seem at first glance contradictory, not as contradictory as being libertarian and also being pro-life though, but is really the one that you should look into if you want to an elaborate philosophy that opposes power structures which goes beyond just advocating for complete personal freedom and instead pursues equality and a community. let's look at this logically it's impossible to destroy power any type of power hierarchy because it's human nature there's always going to be those who above everyone else that's literally just the way humans work the fact that there's like the different types of
Starting point is 01:18:14 anarchy like in the baseline of anarchy is rejecting the powers that be. So if you're an anarchist, it's like a contradiction. Even if you're an anarchist that stands for something, it's pointless because you're revolting against the powers that be in the hopes of overthrowing it and becoming the new powers that be, and then you're going to have anarchists that want to do the same. isn't that just like a constant cycle in history though
Starting point is 01:18:53 yeah that's human it's human history it's humans you everyone wants power yeah so it's pointless so you can't you can't destroy power because there will be power to overtake power and once someone who doesn't want power gets power they're corrupted by power so now they're the power imagine there's no countries
Starting point is 01:19:14 so we do need to be just robots Yes, exactly. Hmm Humans are too flawed So we need... You know, humans are absolutely flawed No, this is what I'm saying, man This is what I was saying
Starting point is 01:19:27 Before, we plug our brains into the one brain And the brain Chooses it'll floor A mega my seat No, but boy, what about if I want To rebel against the brain Well, why, you're part of the brain Yeah, but by far want to do different things
Starting point is 01:19:42 Than the brain Well, the brain will be like Robot Bird I don't want to be What, okay, you're at Robot Bear, Robot, Robot, Oh, is this fact... It's right back, maybe.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Not back to the rhino. No, okay. Yeah, that is... That means that everyone is always satisfied with their life, which means nobody will rebel. Which means the one power being the brain is always in power because everyone's satisfied. Whatever. No, but, but do you know of the philosophy that we are one? The one brain philosophy?
Starting point is 01:20:12 Not the one brain philosophy. Like... So, so... The stuff that makes up stars, right? Stars. Gunge. Slyne. Light gunge.
Starting point is 01:20:24 It's the same shit that makes us. I'm made of gunges? And everything around us. Yeah. So we are literally all the same. Like, everything is just made of the same shit. Okay, what's that? So we are everything and everything is us.
Starting point is 01:20:40 So we should just suck up. So we brain plug into the big brain and we all are the big brain. So there's no more like... The big brain is just a tab of LSD. But everyone on the planet takes it at the same time. Right, come on. So we need to assimilate everyone. Join that the one vein all get quashed.
Starting point is 01:21:04 But you could argue that the only reason we have like problems, like interpersonal problems, international problems is not understanding each other you brain plug into the same thing where you're no longer speaking in English or German or French or
Starting point is 01:21:25 You're speaking in thought You're speaking in code binary F dong zero one You can convey ideas and shit without needing language It's like just immediate interpretation
Starting point is 01:21:41 You understand where I'm coming from and what I'm thinking So what is that we're saying we should just literally be robots Why should we No we shouldn't be individuals The human condition
Starting point is 01:21:52 shouldn't be a thing Humans shouldn't exist No I'm saying Individuality is what makes us human That is everyone The Queen What about if she was The one brain
Starting point is 01:22:04 And what about if now that she's gone It's all gonna crack Well now Charles is the one brain Yeah Honestly let's just become immortal through the mega my seat there's changed is that a Resident Evil thing
Starting point is 01:22:19 yeah cringe uh oh cringy uh jackaboose is annoyed at you jim jim mentioned that people are complaining that Eldon Ring isn't enough like Dark Souls because it's built around summons the thing people are complaining about with Eldon Ring
Starting point is 01:22:33 is that beating bosses with summons isn't as fun or engaging because just getting a tank to grab agro while you wail on a boss's ass isn't engaging gameplay if the game is built around this instead of the dark slash demon source style of boss
Starting point is 01:22:46 we're learning the boss's attacks and animations and doing it solo was encouraged and it was since it was since if you played offline there were several bosses that had no summonable NPCs it leads to poor boss design and boring gameplay which can be seen in Eldonring and the fact is significantly lower boss quality
Starting point is 01:23:05 than Dark Souls 3 more people enjoy it so therefore it's better I said it about myself I find when we're talking about games in a cast I always rush my thoughts and try and get them out as fast as possible I didn't mean to say if I did
Starting point is 01:23:24 that like summons are what you're meant to do for every fight because it is a lot of fun to perfect shit and that there are problems with the bosses that weren't in Dark Source 3 I have more fun with the bosses in DarkSource 3 because of the way it's designed but just because of that difference in design doesn't mean that it's better or worse it means you prefer one or the other think
Starting point is 01:23:53 about it comparing it like you would compare Lords of the Fallen or whatever the fuck it was called that rip-off Dark Souls compare that to Ashen yeah it's like comparing different games it's not like like why did they differ from doing this before they were doing something new who were changing it that's the way i look at it and just because i prefer the way it was done in secura or dark souls or bloodborn is irrelevant there are aspects of elden ring that are better that they were obviously focusing on more they wanted more of like a co-op shit going on in aldermring like it's it's in all the ads and shit is like co-oping yeah
Starting point is 01:24:38 there's a big influence on that and my favourite thing about Eldon Ring my first play through was using messages and summoning people because the interaction with other people is a huge... That update they added a month or a few weeks ago or whatever where you can put your sign down
Starting point is 01:24:57 and it was summon you anywhere to whoever needs you when I've been playing it a little bit that's been really fun really fun you're just someone some random part of the game and you're just helping someone with a certain boss that's awesome and fun to me
Starting point is 01:25:14 yeah exactly and I I think Dark Souls always wanted to have that that element emphasized yeah and they've they've pushed that further with Eldemring and I feel like
Starting point is 01:25:29 it may be kind of cheap the way they did it but they've made people want to use summons yeah I feel like it's just one of the things you have to sacrifice for a certain level of broadness and scope. But I do agree to a certain level that like every boss in Sakura
Starting point is 01:25:49 is like a moment. Yeah, every single one. But there are loads of throwaway bosses in Aldermereo. Loads. Yeah, but Sekiro was obviously designed with that intention. Yeah. With you having a one-on-one,
Starting point is 01:26:02 like there's a zero co-op in the game. They added messages in an update. but again it's like one on one so then they went the total opposite where it was like we're gonna just do crazy shit but they want I like that there's the whole gambit available though like if you want all these certain itches
Starting point is 01:26:23 scratched you can go play Dark Souls through it you can play Sekara yeah you can play Aldermring yeah 100% but if I want to play any of them co-op it's gonna be Oldham Ring that shit is so fun and with the build diversity you don't need to play every different type of build
Starting point is 01:26:43 but when like I remember early on when I was playing I summoned a guy called like I'm one of the ninja turtle names and he yeah he had like a turtle shell on his back which was the shield and he had like the cloak thing up to his I summoned Dumbledore the other day a wizard right it's like badass shit
Starting point is 01:27:05 Shit, and people do... It makes moments, and I think those moments are more important to Eldham Ring than, like, godskin duo. Which is bad. Which is shit, yeah, by all accounts. Hopefully in the Dio-Soo they had the Godskin trio. And the Godskin Quartet. James, that's end on this one. It's for you, from Sven.
Starting point is 01:27:33 This might be a bit too. invasive of a question, but what the heck does James do for a living? From what I gathered, it involves cars, storage management, desk work, and production of stuff at a large company. I'll build robots. It builds the robots that are going to take us over. Yeah, it's all me, baby. No, I build robots.
Starting point is 01:27:53 James builds the one brain. Yeah, I build, I'm, I'm building the mega my seat as we speak. Me build robots, me work on cars. We'll see you next time. And if I know Del Domain, it'd actually be a game that isn't clunky and shit. Do you want to make me a coffee please? Can you use the cocoa pod and make me a coffee? Make me an espresso!
Starting point is 01:29:05 Open the door! Open the door and make me a coffee. Use the cocoa truffle one from the kitchen. Eh! Ha! Ha! Ah! I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:01 You know, So, I don't know. I don't know. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You know,
Starting point is 01:33:31 Thank you. Thank you. I'm

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