JAR Media Posdact - Addressing The Metagame - JARCast Episode 274
Episode Date: May 16, 2022https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 04:14 Housekeeping 17:26 Alex Addresses The Metagam...e 25:38 The Pissa Problem 47:16 Mid Break 47:47 The JARchive 50:17 YouTubers we grew up with 1:01:06 Naming your child 'Spongebob' 1:03:46 Has the pandemic changed you? 1:10:57 A Convo on Hunting
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Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and gents, and welcome to episode 274 of the JARCast.
I'm your host Alex, joined by George James and Jim.
Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Good afternoon, morning, evening, or night, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this episode of the John Richard podcast.
As you can see, it is episode three plus one.
I'm your host James
joined by Alex and
Jamie
Uh-huh
Uh-huh
Good up
No not again
Can't have three
Actually not
Go for it
It is three plus one
I'm your host Alex
Joined by
Me
Do you know what
What do you think
If someone goes on Spotify
Whatever
And JARCast is recommended to them
JAR as a channel
as a being, as
an entity, is recommended on their
homepage. I think about that a lot.
And they click on a random episode and they just get the same
intro like four times.
If this was someone's first episode,
it'd be like, what is it? Well, then they should go away.
Yeah, true. Start with episode
3 plus 1. So true. You got a whole
who starts Sopranos
that's season 5, you know?
Yeah. You start from
season 3, go back to season 1
and then jump to season 5 because that's
when it gets good.
Yeah, it's like Star Wars the Clone Wars.
You watch every episode out of order.
Yeah.
I hate Star Wars the Clone Wars.
I hate Star Wars.
You main line the Jaja episodes.
Yeah.
I liked the one where Jaja has to pretend to be a Sith Lord.
Pretend, wink, wink.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm, I'm, when we talk about conspiracy theories, the only one that matters is
Jaf, Jaf, Jaf.
Jath.
Jah.
Jah.
I learned a cool bit of Star Wars law.
I don't care, bro, let's carry on
What do you mean you don't care?
No, it involves guns.
Guns?
Yeah, apparently the librarian character
in Attack of the Clones
developed some kind of gun in the EU
that could shoot lightsabers.
Don't you like that?
That is really cool.
And Fort Darvader.
Are those lightsabers, like, red beams?
What?
Well, the guns in stars are shooting...
They shoot lasers?
Yeah, which is basically...
made out of lasers.
There's a lot of bad extended Star Wars law,
but that's Warmer, it's like,
you genuinely have had no thought into that.
Isn't the whole point of lightsabers
that every single character who owns one
has, like, a customised one that's a different shape?
Hmm.
So what, you design a gun that can shoot lightsabers,
but it can only shoot, like, one person's lightsaber?
Does it actually shoot, like, the whole thing?
Pretty sure.
I can show you the comic panel.
I, like, saved it because it was so stupid
when I found it.
Well, no, but here's the thing.
A lightsaber is the thing
that is shot out of normal guns
in that world.
It's just charged plasma or energy.
I'm actually not true.
No, but come on, let's be where it is.
You're shooting laser.
That's what a lightsaber is.
Well, do the guns use khyber crystals, James?
Well, yeah, clearly.
Get out to date on the law.
Well, how are they reloading, though?
That energy is not coming from nowhere.
Maybe they're slapping an extra khyber crystal
into their guns.
before we talk about any more Star Wars lore
should we thank the patrons over
I was about to do the same
but I was looking for my Kaiba opening
you know
well I found one
so carry on I guess
oh yeah well big thanks to the patrons
that make the audio version of the show possible
and get your names right out in the first week
you can find us on Podbean
you can find us on Podbean
well can you explain that because I just saw
Podbean is our um yeah I added that
to it's who hosts our RSS feed
and on the
on their website you can set it so
it auto tweets out a link whenever you upload
an episode so I figured
why not
so now the
when an episode goes live on the RSS feed
it auto tweets out a like
hashtag a new episodes live
everybody on pod bean
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needs let's clean up guys
we have a significant
housekeeping this week
because we had some
he has some good questions
that I just wanted to go through.
Animator guy's going to start us off
with the amount of talk of eras of the cast
I think a fully-fledged jar timeline is in order.
Anything pop into your head in terms of
timeline organization? Because personally,
I don't know where the eras begin and end.
This is something that jarlings have to organize.
Pre-horambe, post-horambe?
No, it's pre-Humbo post-Hawambi.
Pre-Covid, post-Covid.
That's kind of the big stages.
That's it.
Are you saying Harambe was the original COVID?
Yeah.
No, no.
truthfully, Hauwambi changed has.
Harambe did change has.
That's, that's, that's one of the core jar memories is just,
I think that was a, like, a three-hour long episode,
and it was when that Harambe news dropped, and I was upset, man.
It, it actually started the monkey, kind of.
I don't suppose it did.
I wonder if that's where, because gorillas are my favorite animals.
Yeah, really?
So yours is gorillas, mine's orangutangs.
I love orangutans.
If you join the,
orang-a-tang-tang I've a hundred percent join the gang a wang-a-tangang
gang-a-tang-tang yeah gang-a-wanga-tang we'll learn how to pronounce what
the names even are and then um okay miscukius mucius to be honest charlings know
they know they know the episodes better than we do they do they do actually
said better than we do so we can leave it to them to organize zero this actually goes into a topic
I actually wanted to talk about and that was that I would
Recently, while at work, I decided that, you know, I watched YouTube videos like the last hour of the day, because it's just a nice way to end the day.
And I watched episode, don't know, but it was called the Star War Wheel.
The Star War is well.
Yeah, Star Wars Real.
Something like that.
And this was, it was, it was pre-COVID.
It was like a few weeks or maybe just after the first small lockdown.
So it was kind of really early days of COVID.
and it was crazy listening to how we talked about it,
just given how much it's changed now.
At early 2020 kind of time.
Yeah, and it was the same time that The Last Jedi came out.
I guess, yeah, late 2019.
Was it right?
Yes.
What were we talking about it?
We were talking about it.
And I was just, it's just weird listening to you talk about Star Wars
and how the perception of that is now different
to how you were talking about it then.
was I saying out of interest
that you quite like to
there's crap
I was saying that
yeah
you're both
you were both saying
it was shocking
the awful
the last Jedi
yes
I'm gonna have to
re-listen to this
the last Jedi
no I think you're getting the name wrong
James is talking about
episode nine
oh that's the last Jedi
no that's
no okay
oh that's the last SkyWort
wait
actually is it called
he's called the last Jedi
because he's the
that's the Ryan Johnson one
yeah
no
That's the controversial one.
Yeah, Skywalker.
Oh, Wise of the Skywalker.
Right, is that actually what it?
Yeah, Rise of the Sky.
I actually can't remember it.
I can't remember where it's even called.
Yes, that one.
Episode 9, I just call it.
Yeah.
The worst Star Wars movie.
Because you were saying about how it's basically just fast and furious.
If not worse.
It is worse.
It straight up is worse.
But anyway.
Interestingly, though, there was a discussion on it about wearing jeans.
And I found this fucking.
hilarious because there's a weird thing with jars that after an episode i don't remember a single
thing i've said so every when i go back to listen to an episode it's like a new experience for me
because i just forget the shit i fucking talk about and this one fucked me up it was unbelievably
funny because nothing i was saying makes any sense was that the one where you're saying
about changing into your pajamas i was trying to make the point that if you get out the
shelter you don't have enough time to wear jeans so you
wear shorts or pyjamas and you couldn't understand the time aspect yeah but it's
vaguely coming back to this day because obviously when you do a podcast over spanning years
obviously your opinions change and you grow with it no no if you say something once in a video
that's your opinion forever well yeah besides that but i just want to say that jeans that i still i'm
still in the firm camp of you can't wear jeans after getting out of a shower but i do wear i pretty much
wear trackies now and I didn't I said in that video that I never wear trackies
trackies have become my new shorts so if you get out of the shower you wear trackies
and not jeans because you don't have enough time to wear jeans there's just no time in
this life for jeans yeah yeah Finn Armstrong left one for us bear bear was
running a few boys could start saying good morning first I live in New Zealand and it
would really help with my immersion when I turn the podcast on every Tuesday morning
while I lie in bed wishing I never woke up good episode watched her on mute at
time speed. Well, maybe you should
actually start wishing you were alive.
What? They wish they didn't wake up.
No, wish you woke up. So we're going to be supportive and
say that they should wish they are alive. They really are alive.
They don't need to wish. Yeah, but they want to be asleep, right?
No, wish to win the lottery and then just waste all your money on lottery tickets.
And okay. We're not going to change, though, because game on.
Yeah, game on. Exactly. Yeah, you hit the nail on the head there. We can't, we can't
We're not going to adapt to your preferences. Sorry.
Logan Stevens addressed something as well
saying James I was being serious with my comment on your fashion take
sorry you took it as otherwise I agree that these things should be obvious
but the opposite is very true for the average person buying clothes
oh we don't have to apologise for that
no I told you I told you nothing you tell me I just I doubted
myself and I doubted the the comments
I told you you did tell me and I'm I'm very sorry
that I interpret it incorrectly
No, don't get the jarlings wrong
There are some out there
That will go for your throat, you know
Yeah, absolutely
There are definitely, but at the same time
There are some that
There's some good jarlings out there
Who are darlings
Just like their name suggests
Exactly
Oh, is that why they're called charlings
Yeah, they're our darlings
And they're, you know
Jonglis said
As a Jogoblin from South Carolina
Hearing y'all do southern accents
There's a treat
By a bear
We're not, we're not
Of all the gimmicks and funny little dibbies we have on the episodes,
that one's never coming back, ever.
Alex had so much fun.
He did, and I had no fun.
I didn't have fun, so nobody else can.
No, but James being made miserable by it was absolutely essential to the whole thing being awesome.
No, but that's how...
It comes down to jealousy, though.
Let's be rude.
I'm a very jealous man at the moment.
What about bear?
No, not bear bear, just the...
the accent makes you jealous. What about it?
No, I'm not jealous of that.
Explain, you gotta explain that. What do you mean? What are you jealous by?
You know what he's jealous by. Yeah, you know.
James, say, obeyer, bae.
A be yeah.
You got one more.
Uh, from Bilbo Smashings.
Oh.
Hi jar boys, just wanted to add something to the discussion about the door-to-door salespeople
as someone who was one of them.
So I was talking about this last episode, my experience, my bad experiences with door-to-door salesmen.
Firstly, a solid 80% of it is all a scam.
Alex talked at length about feeling powerless because they all have the knowledge and he doesn't.
But they don't really.
Unless they're the boss who have been in it for years.
They're taught to know more about qualifying you as someone they can sell to rather than knowledge about the product.
My boss directly told me once that product knowledge isn't important at all.
And that just comes with time.
All I needed to do is make sure the homeowner was a person who qualified for what we were selling.
It's very predatory indeed, but the best way to shut it down is to do the awkward thing and say no, bluntly, and as soon as possible.
Don't give the conversation room to breathe.
You don't have to be rude, but let your position be forever known and don't flinch at smart talk they try.
It's all the script they rehearsed in the office hours before.
From the moment they greet you, even asking how your day is, is part of their script.
We were all taught how to segue quickly into sales talk and using a predetermined greeting and certain phrases.
Nonetheless, most of them I knew never figured out how to work their script around the customer, just saying no straight away.
I worked for my company for three weeks before leaving.
I was in work for five days a week doing seven to eight hours of knocking on people's doors and only earned a hundred and fifty pound since it was all commission based.
That's why these people are so pushy and needy for your time and attention, refusing to take no for an answer.
They likely have little sales training or experience and I'm more focused on their script and qualifying you
than they are about your feelings and the weird situation they put you in by being at your door like that.
With that in mind, I feel sorry for people in the job I was in now,
but still can't stand being spoken to of our salespeople anyway.
I understand their plight now, but just don't have the time for them on all their scam.
Some of them don't even know it's a scam.
I didn't until after.
Game on Mingers, I enjoyed that interesting chat.
That's some interesting insight.
That is some interesting insight, and I just kind of feel so because they are underpaid.
Yeah.
And if it's all based on commission, you just get shafted.
That's the thing with door-to-door selling, is that if it's an independent, like, let's say this one guy has a company where he does some manual labor thing, right?
This one guy fixes ceilings.
if he goes knocking on doors
his business is harmed
by the bigger companies
that do
conservatories
that have these salesmen
that make you just want to say
no go away, close the door
you know?
Yeah
it's like a sneaky tactic
to come across
as like
genuine, genuine small business
just trying to like
do good
and make a bit of dash
My whole thing was
Specifically with the
Conservatory guy
Was that the pretense was
This is a no commitment
It's just a quote
Don't worry about it
And then when he was in my house
And I did give him like a firm
I'm not I'm not gonna make a decision today
If you give me time to assess this quote
Then sure
But it was a case of
Oh yeah I don't know about this one
It's gonna change after today
So I was like no
But then it's like
No
you've been identified as a good one.
So we're just not going to let you,
we're not going to take no for an answer
because no means yes in our fucked up sales world.
This is the thing, the tactic they need to do is like,
all it is just like, you won someone over
and then you sell them a way to fix their bones.
You create the problem they need to fix it.
Yeah.
We do.
You'd be like, um, they need a conservatory,
so I'll make it so they have to buy one.
And I get my money and I can have my millions in my account.
I'd be a great salesman
I would be
I am good at selling things
I'm good at selling Lego
I've had a few people
messaging me
taking me for a sap you know
I'll give you a this for that
now I look at bricklink
I look at the second hand market value
underestimate the man that looks at bricklink
so true never
never get yourself ladies out there
looking for a man
brick link expert it should be the yeah go on a date with any lady it should be your first question
do you know what brick link is oh yeah just do it straight up you meet them they say yeah yeah
your first question are you more of a brick set or a brick link kind of gal yeah yeah you show up at
your date from tinder um and and they're like they're like wow you look nothing like
like was that profile picture even you that's that was clearly not
you look's a bit more plastic in your profile picture yeah you looked more human in the
profile picture and then you're just like stop bricklink tell me what you know and if they
give you three deeds marry him right there prepare have the ring
yeah have it in your pocket ready so it's a whip out yeah 10 grand ring
so if the man got brick link he's got more than 10 grand
no no no no that's not true because brick link is for the
savvy buyer, not
the witch buyer, because the witch buyer is not using
Brickling, they're using the Lego website
itself, and they've got accounts
with loads of points on because they buy
all their sets direct.
We all know someone like that.
Metagamers.
Metagamers.
Points manipulate.
Legos.
Alex, would you say you're a Lego
meta gamer?
No.
There are a few out there.
I'd say...
Alex, would you say you're a
Metagamer in general, though.
Depends on the game we're talking about.
The game of life.
Compared to some?
I could be much more impressive.
No, no, don't compare to some, compared to the normal person.
Yeah, I admit, I'll try and met a game as much of a lot of it.
You're addicted to metagame.
You are addicted to being a metagamer.
Well, it depends what you are.
Your car is because there's like a bar.
There's like a pendulum that's.
You can literally see, you can actually see on it when you're saving energy by not accelerating downhills.
You're metagaming travelling.
I will admit that part of the allure of my car was the meta aspect.
Yeah, every time I get in your car, there'll be a point where you're like, oh, got some nice charge there.
Every journey at some point.
No, but it goes deeper.
Because you've recently had solar panels installed.
Where does that solar panel go?
It fuels the very car you're.
meta-gaming. And guess what? You have an app for your solar panels that shows you the
most the times of the day when you're most energy efficient and you're soaking up all that
energy. Are you not metagaming that as well? Absolutely. When that sun is blaring, it's time to put
the dishwasher on. It's time to put the washing machine on. How many apps do you have on your
phone or whatever? Just as far as metagaming is concerned. Do you count like McDonald's app? Does that
account for those free drinks?
Bro, I've never named someone
Metagame the McDonald's up as much as you.
We will just talk,
you know, join the week, and you'll come up
and you'll be like, oh, I got that
to a £20 discount today.
We spend £20 and we get
a 40% discount.
And we will go specifically because you've reached
that metagame achievement.
Well, I remember when this kind of
metagaming, uh, Groupon type stuff
started, really started.
But I wasn't about the Groupon type thing
because that's like, you know.
There's too many steps.
Too many steps.
Too many things holding you back.
Whereas now it's like,
you're wasting your time if you're not metatigaming, you know?
Yeah.
Like recently I was looking into these credit cards
where you can get like points, like, AMRs or whatever.
That kind of thing, right?
I was looking into that type of stuff.
I should have been on this years ago, right?
That's the play, right?
You build up your credit score because credit's important.
You need a good one.
and you can do it with these stupid
meta game credit cards
Not even true
Go off the grid
My recommendation to any up and coming
Just anyone who's young
TikTok stars
Yeah
Go off the grid
Go fucking invisible
If they can't find you then they can't tax you bro
No but here's the thing Jamie
Have you also not
Become one with some meta gaming
I'm a man of constant sorrow
I drink
Have you not recently
I drink a lot of coffee
You have downloaded the Costa app and you are receiving your beans in order to mess again.
The thing is, this is the cycle that I didn't want to begin because I was against the Costa card for a long time.
You were, because Costa is not the best coffee.
It's not the best coffee, but I can't deny, I drink a lot of it.
I thought, you know what?
If you're doing it anyway.
I'm drinking a lot of coffee anyway.
I might as well get a free one every now and again from it.
And to be honest.
And I catch myself.
I'm like, I've, I've had two coffees today and I'm like, wait, if I get another one, then I get a free one sooner.
That's the danger.
That's why I went and got another one.
And it's like, wait, wait, wait a minute, this defeats the whole point because I just bought another one that I don't even like want.
But I'm just doing it to get a free one even though I'm paying money now.
I'm buying more than I would have for the free one.
For the free one.
So they're winning.
They are winning.
Yeah.
But I have the card now.
Now I'm in too deep.
aren't you did this is where you've said you've got the little
the little dopamine hit of that
bean the bean yeah and now it's
going to keep steam rolling we went to costa
today we did I didn't
well you didn't yeah we've got
there's a reason we went to costa today Alex
yeah because I have a Costa card
and I used my Costa card and by the
looks of things I didn't get my bean
so I might just throw this thing in the bin
no to be fair it's going to take time until day
and the thing is there's not because last time I did it
they swipe the card and then I
my app was like your fucking bean and
brother you're on your way to a free coffee the beans are flowing yeah but and the I'm the
least metagamer of all of us because I I go to the meal deal costume machine every
for the last two weeks I've gone every day every day a meal deal every single day
because you get the free costume machine well you're not even using your club card I don't
even have a club card okay you're just that means I've thrown away 50p every time that's
actually just kind of yeah that is stupid in the in the living crisis we currently reside in
That is kind of stupid, I will admit that
But I don't even have a Costa card
Because every time you get one of these meal deal costas
Which is £3.50 for a fucking mill deal costa
With you know everything
You get a free bean
So the last
Get a free bean
You do, you get free bean with your meal deal
You get a bean, you get a bean towards a free drink
And you need eight beans for a free drink
So if the last two weeks alone
I would have got a free drunk
And if I had the costa card
It wouldn't change the amount of times
I've been buying those meal deals
Because I just can't order to cook
Yeah but surely the meal deal
Would still be £350
It would, yes.
Even if you got the free drink?
Yes.
No, because I'd use that bean, that free drink when I go into the costa pop-up costa.
Oh, okay.
Not on the machine.
I see what you're saying.
See, I could be doing, but I'm not mad game.
And you can get any drink you want, so you can max that shit.
You can get the energizer caramel latte.
Really nice.
Full of sugar.
Trash horror.
Yeah, the way I see is if we're going to live in like a mega-corporate blade runner nightmare,
we might as well.
Get the free thing.
We might as well stock up on beans
while they're worth something.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Anything you can get off them, go for it.
Anything.
A free bean here and there.
See, no, but the only one
of actually metagamed is the Starbucks app.
Because you order a certain amount of app
points.
I'd say it's probably the best one.
Because you get 250 stars
and then you basically
you become a gold member.
With a gold member, you get all the
syrups and all the extra
espress.
All the extras you want to throw in
your fapa-wapapino chocky walkie just fantastic fappuccino you all the extras you want to
throw in that by boy they're free you're forgetting a major detail though you got to drink
Starbucks no but here's the thing that the the the chucky frappuccino frapicinos tastes great
and that's because they got like 90 grams of sugar in yeah and jamie absolutely loves them
so that's where it's worth it because the extra's like one pound each so if jamie's getting like
five extras, that's five pounds of free
stuff. Yeah, but that's
the thing, they make it, they overcharge
for this shit, so then when they
give it to you for free, it's like, well,
I'm saving five pounds. Yeah, yeah.
It's trash. The system is fucking rigged.
We're... We're hamsters
on the wheel. Yeah, we're hamsters on the wheel.
Uh, meow.
Sorry, um,
what kind of noise the hamsters?
Uh...
they go
oh
yeah so get on it man
you get on the club card now
and what you should do is you should
meta game Jarm Media go through every video
give it a like
yeah well that's about to announce
we've got an exciting announcement
around these parts we've got the JAR Media
meta card
you can use it in Metaverse
if you buy a JAR Media coffee in the Metaverse
you get a point
that point goes towards the special JARMedia
no no no do you know what it goes towards
you know what it goes towards Alex
what goes towards the pisser
oh we got we got a little
announcement to make
six million jar points and you get the pisser
the pisser is yours
the pisser is yours
truthfully
the pisser
the pisser is no more
the pisser problem
is now
the pisser has become a problem
yeah we gotta solve the pisser problem
so so you know what we mean
Jamie did today is we went and bought a car
skills me
the piss has been replaced
the piss has been upgraded
is evolved
yeah
it's the middle evolution
it is
the Pokemon is happening
dun dun dun dun dun dun
dun dun dun dun
then does that
doesn't it
then it starts going
blah blah
dun dun dun
I don't know
the ditty
once it's done
it does that right
it goes da da da
do it and then it
yeah
yeah
yeah
This is old-school poker.
I don't know what it's like now.
It probably goes.
Now it's like,
but...
Yeah, it goes.
Dood-d-d-d-do-do-d-d-d-pfff.
But, yeah, I bought a...
Toyota Supra.
He didn't buy a Supra.
As much as I'd wish for him to buy a Super.
He bought a Toyota Salika T-Sport.
One-90-break horsepower, naturally aspirated, lift.
Solica sounds like a Pokemon, to be honest.
It does.
It does.
Pisa, Salika, Supra.
Boom.
And you know what, the thing is, they sold a Salika Supra.
You could literally get them both in one.
But Jamie upgraded his car and it's the best, I'm jealous.
James is jealous.
I'm generally jealous.
I've not seen James so jealous of a vehicle before.
So what, basically, this come about, because you said in brief kind of casual conversation, like,
oh, what would you do with the Pisa if I were to replace it?
And then I was just like...
It wasn't even that.
I was saying to Alex, like...
I kind of want to get a new car.
And then this is where it all went downhill
because Alex told me.
Yeah, then you guys went for coffee
and Alex was like,
Jim's thinking about getting rid of the piss.
And obviously I saw an opening,
so it was just like, I'm going in.
So I instantly sent a fixture.
I just, I know, I was just like,
what do you think of this?
Instantly, you were like, that looks cool.
And I was like, okay.
Well, you sent me two.
That was like a weak turnaround.
It was a week.
Exactly a week from talking about the car
that's actually having it here.
because I sent you two pictures
I sent you a Corolla
which is the pisser but bigger
and the Salika
the sports car
and I was like
hey he'd want the Corolla
because it's a little bit bigger
it's still small
and then you slap me around
I'm like
I want the Salika
yeah
you can make a little side business
out of this
you're the guy that like
oh come or find me a car
with these
these restrictions
bit bam
James has found the perfect car
for you
no it actually
fucking blew my mind
like I told James
nothing about the type of thing I wanted
like what my preferences were
James just found it before I even
said anything and then not only did James
find it but you found the perfect deal
within like a week
and then drove me there
and I bought it. It was just like
bum bum, bum. You did nothing. You actually did
nothing about it. Yeah. I
supplied the money and drove the car
back. That was it. Yeah.
Anyways it is a... because with
the price of them they're either stupidly expensive
like four or five thousand or like
like stupily cheap because there's something wrong.
And this one, I was just searching, I was just like,
this one looks clean, it's low miles and it's really good price.
Boom, clean this car I've seen.
No rust, body works good condition.
Low miles, perfect. Boom, done deal.
Mint car and I love it, and I'm jealous.
Yeah, it looks suck.
It's the natural evolution.
The thing is you saying that makes me feel guilty.
Why?
Because, like, I just thought, hmm,
car looks kind of cool, quirky and like a bit weird.
you're telling me all this like techno shit
and I'm like yeah man that's something
yeah I'll actually send you videos like
look and look what it does at 9,000 Rpm
yeah I just held the phone to my ear
and was like yeah it sounds cool
and then
I forgot where I was going with this
yeah you know all this shit
and then you drove the car today
and yeah
gave it a test and you're like man this shit's nice
and the fact that I don't know shit
makes me guilty
You shouldn't feel guilty because it's an entry point
It's an entry point for you to enjoy
The little bit of car
Car world that you experience through me
Yeah
Because once you get lift and you're like
You'll be like you appreciate it
And that's what matters
I'm opening another
A level
I'm opening the doors of your brain
To appreciate the little things
But generally
It's a really nice car
But it leaves us in the conundrum
The piss
The piss conundrum.
Yeah.
We got pissed to spare.
What do we do with the piss?
We have piss to spur.
So, Jarlings, what should we do with the pisser?
Yeah.
It is the pisser as of, like, the end of this weekend, is going to be parked up, and we don't know what to do.
In an ideal world, I would take the pisser under my wing.
But you guys are trying to convince me to take the pisser.
I think the pisser belongs in your hands.
Yeah.
Whereas I got a few issues with that
If I'm being real
Name three
No three, okay
The front
No meta game is one of them
The front left window can't open
Okay, what's the problem with that?
You sit in the right
Yeah
Because it gets
It also has no AC
It doesn't have any
So you can't open the window
The main, one of the main windows
You can open, it's got four windows
You can open three, come on
Yeah
And the other two are wind up
window so they can't break. Yeah, they literally
can't break. So that
one's debunked. Come on, three more.
Debunked? Yeah, but
that counts. That counts.
I would say
how many miles
is it done? Don't know. Doesn't matter
where it's got a new clutch is 100,000
surely. Huh?
Nick close to 200,000? No. No, it's
like 140. Okay.
Nothing. It's a Toyota, bro.
I took it to a
mechanic road when I got the clutch down.
for it he said that he's seen this very car reach 400k he's a for real yeah
yeah 400k so it's it's not even like a it's it's a quarter of the way through its
life like if it was one of it if it was like if it was the quality of one of
those ones james found the other day they're like white one and really cool
the three-door one heartbeat mod it then bro that's the beauty of cars you can
what do you mean by quality
well because the piss is way older it's all fucked up it's not it's not the exterior
the things that people see it's a sure it's a little bit of my own it requires work
it doesn't it doesn't though all it needs is the is the window and a service
it could do the service yeah window service deep clean i can't be fucking with this shit
yeah but i can clean it and also i can service it the majority of the duct
that's in there was
all three of us, to be fair.
Yeah, we've all contributed to that.
Yeah.
I'd say even in equal amounts.
Yes.
No.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You can't deny.
Not true.
Absolutely true.
I'd make an effort to take my shit out of there.
Yeah, every now and against someone was left.
It's not just the shit, it's just, it's like crumbs, right?
We've all eaten a fuck ton of fries in that cut.
Yeah.
And we all, we're all, we, the crumbs happen.
It's a natural thing.
It's not my main concern is the car cannot go until we have documented it in some form and there's a nice pisser video.
That's why we're talking about it now.
The end of this documentation is you taking it on.
Yeah.
No, it's me driving it off a fucking cliff.
That's the end.
No, but this is the thing, okay, like it's established in jar law.
There's so many funny moments that have happened as a result of this.
One we haven't even talked about because we're too scared to.
In time.
In time, yes.
No, let's mark it today five years from now.
We talk about the incident.
No, that story should be one that we record and then just save.
Oh, yeah.
True.
This vehicle has jar law.
It's not like the vehicles I've owned that were briefly talked about, but they weren't established.
The piss has been established.
Yeah, it has, in the jar wall of, um.
Yeah, there's, that's a good point.
we need a nice picture of it, frame it.
Then we have the Toyota logo somewhere in it.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, right, but on the hand behind James.
Yeah, you can see the Pessa's logo.
This, I've moved this in a car park with a credit card.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it looks like a cock when it's upside down.
It does.
I think, I think it belongs in Alex's hands.
It does.
That's the thing.
It absolutely.
No, but here's the thing.
That's convenient, isn't it?
No, no, listen.
It gets off your hands is for me to just have it.
No, no, listen.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying, bro, bro, bro.
How much is the range on your BMW?
Five?
Yeah.
You can't even drive.
You couldn't even have picked up Jamie's new car from Bristol
because you don't have the range.
Because you know what has the range?
The pisser.
The pisser could do that journey 30,000 times.
And it would be fine.
Yeah.
Then you'd only get through like a quarter of the fuel.
No.
You?
No.
I want the, Alex.
If Jarlings vote on this.
No.
This will just be like the Mullets.
Alex will back out because he knows he'll lose.
No.
No, because we're in the mullet thing together.
So we have to do it together.
No, I've already backed out of that.
Yeah.
Yeah, you backed out.
Damn, that's cold.
Okay, no, Jarlings, you vote.
Who owns the pisser from?
today onwards. Alex or James? See, no, no, but here's the thing. I'm actually, I, I'm going to be in the market for a new car because mine's going into storage. So, and it's like the, the plan, worst case now was that if Jamie were to get a new car, which he now has, I was just going to take the piss of one once mine's in storage. But that my car's going in storage in November. We're so far ahead that I don't have the space.
Well, I was saying to you guys, honestly, my main concern is that there's now a gap in the market in terms of the humor vehicle.
Yeah, and the Pissor was the human vehicle.
The Pissor was the movie. There's nothing funny about the Laurel.
There's nothing funny about my car.
Well, there's a couple things funny.
Yeah, your car's funny.
But not like the Pisser funny, you know?
Yeah.
That's what I mean.
I don't want to get rid of it.
I like it.
I really like that car.
No, but he's the thing, it's basically, it's a free car and it's a reliable car.
And it's actually really nice to drive.
Yeah, no, it is.
Even with that clutch.
It just streets.
The clutch that I got fucking repaired.
The clutch that is brand spanking.
I've never driven the pisser.
I've never driven it since it's had a new clutch because Jamie likes the new clutch so much.
He doesn't want me to break it.
Yeah, it feels good, man.
I've driven that car.
And it's just like you can turn it on a dime because it's light and the steering's light.
And it changes gear on a roundabout.
You don't even have to go around it.
It just jumps and spin.
Yeah, it's a perfect car.
And it's like, it would be a shame for it.
go because there's only
there's only a few situations
of this pisser white
it either leaves our flock
it goes out into the wild and we'll never see it
again and somebody just kills it
because it'll sell it for like too much or I
kill it or I kill it
no because you won't kill it I will kill it in a blaze of glory
you'd take it to like
a care home and treat it right
you know you'd have that
motherfucker live in many years but then
I'm also like
I like the idea of having the car where
if you do crash it into a wall
it's not a big deal, you know?
Yeah, Jamie's done it a fair few times.
Yeah.
No, this is what I'm saying though.
Like you have that opportunity
right in front of you
and it's free.
It's not free though, is it?
I'm going to have to get insured on that.
I'm going to have to...
Bro.
Get service.
The service will cost nothing
because I can do it.
All it needs is a fuel check.
An oil change.
An oil change in a filter.
That is literally 20 quid for pisser.
And the fuel, fuel's not a cost because it's the pissers.
It's got like 90 MPG.
Legit.
Because Alex, this is the thing.
It's better for the environment, the most electrical cars.
It's better for the environment than your actual car.
Yeah, then your electric car.
And that's not a lie.
That is actually true because B&W spent a lot of money and emissions,
creating the hydro dams to create the carbon chassis of the carbon chassis of the,
your BMW, you're like
minus 12 million tons
of carbon dioxide in your car
alone. So the Pisa
was forged in the fucking fires
of Mount Deem.
No, that's the thing. Once you sit, but in that seat
behind that wheel.
I'm with you in terms of that, I am. I do
have a deranged emotional
attachment to that vehicle I've never even driven.
But
my problem is when it becomes my problem,
you know? When does it become your problem?
as soon as it's in my drive
and I've got to fucking deal with the fucker
what do you mean deal with it
bro this is the thing
this is the thing you haven't realised
it's the pisser
argue's just fucking
bit-pacedly
you've now got to spend
a couple grand
taking both of them to the vet
what'd you do
you go outside and you kick the pisser
you let your frustrations out
on the pisser because that's
the place it has
you go into Stain Street's car park
it's just like that's it I'm kicking
the pissers door in
you just kick it in
that's what the pisser is bro
you're not thinking
because Alex
I'm thinking too much
that's the problem
don't think
that is true
you are thinking too much
because listen
even if
if you take this car on
for free
and then you're like
foe I hate this shit
I hate the piss it
sell it
I don't want to sell it
you don't want to sell it
you don't want to sell it
this has been my issue
from the beginning
then don't tell it
if you want to sell it
sell it
no but I don't want to sell it
why is it got to be my problem
sell this piss of shit.
You just message James and James will sell it.
You literally.
Selling shit is my specialty.
Now, because this is my fear, right.
You're like, right, I've got to get rid of the pisser now.
Just put it on Alex's drive.
There you go.
Down it sorted.
Sorted.
Just forget about it now.
It's there.
That's my concern.
That shouldn't be your concern.
That should be your excitement.
No, it's not.
It's like an obstacle course for Argy.
Alex, Argy's had his first McDonald's in that car.
There's videos of it.
No, but what I'm saying is...
Paisley hasn't had that privilege.
If I had a drive, I would just park the pisser and just let the tires deflate and then it's just like an actual...
That's sad, though.
I hate the idea of cars being left.
Because send them out on a blaze of glory.
Yeah, that's why I was like, just get it cubed and just put the cube on the jar set.
Cube.
Well, get it turned into a cube.
Yeah.
Scrap?
No, no.
No.
Alex, do you know how many of my favorite cars have been...
ruined by old people taking them to Scrappage.
The Tory Scrappage scheme has ruined my life.
James' neck veins just fucking grew.
No, I'm entirely against the Scrappage scheme.
The Scrappage scheme was the worst thing.
What are you going to have to fill me in on what the Scrappage scheme was?
Taking your old car and get new car.
Scrap old car, new car.
You know that BMW, my dad heard.
Scrappage scheme.
How much they worth now?
A lot.
It's an E-30.
Yeah.
How much?
How many good cars have been ruined?
How many A86s have been ruined?
Initial D-cars.
Paul Walker cars.
They've all been turned into blocks and dishwashers.
And you want to turn...
It's what you want to do to the pisser?
It's just a technology problem, right?
No!
You need a new phone every year.
You need a new one.
That's the thing, though.
The pisser is better than so many cars.
You can...
Right now, you can go get a brand new Mercedes on $500 a month.
The pisser will cost you £10.
And it will last 10 times as long.
If the Pisa has to go, it has to have a Viking funeral.
We push it into the ocean and set it on fire.
Yeah, who's going to get the bow with the fire arrow?
Not literally.
No, literally.
I like this idea.
Someone's going to come across like a sunken, destroyed Yaris, and it'll become...
Yeah, do the thing where you soak the rag with the fuel,
have it sticking out, and then fire arrow the rag that's hanging out of the...
The wet rag.
Yeah.
And then the fire arrow just goes out, and then the...
the pisser sinks
well I mean to begin with
we just push the pisser into the ocean
then just goes down
yeah we find a nice clip
it would be a wellic
in in a hundred years
they'll find just at a yacht
it'll end up in a museum
it would be the one proof
of intelligent life on the planet
this is a piss that we pushed
into the perfectly preserved pisser
yeah because ain't nothing killing that
fuck
me
you couldn't kill it
if it has to die I'm doing it
I will just I will
wall down a hill and slam it
first gear and then just light it up and
shing up a hill
I'll do it on your estate
do some uh some stamp
driving yeah I will do stunt driving in it
no but I don't want it to die this is my
that's the thing you it's like I'm
I'm like the invader
I'm the person coming into our world
and causing chaos
I will be the invader and I will invade
the piss as well am I the one being invaded
no not really
I am the piss is being invaded
I genuinely don't know what to do about it.
So that's why we're talking about this, Jarlings.
Because I'm all four cleaning it up and then almost giving it away to a Jarling.
Because at the end, there's Jarlings who are at the age where they're going to learn to drive.
Perfect cars to live on driving is a pisser.
It's a toy at YOWIS.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Low insurance.
If you are a young driver learning to drive first car, the pisser's perfect for you.
And you could actually own JAR Media Law.
and you could have your own stories of it
and you too will fall in love with it
true that's that's my plea that's our plea
that the jarlings need to take this on
that would be an awesome way for it to go
so you can actually meet us
so would you be happy to pass it onto a jarling
yes yeah but on the condition
that I don't have to clean it beforehand
it's just like fucking filthy
no that we're so like that
we can also autograph it with like a blade
into the paint yeah
you can get all of our signatures on the
pisser for free right so it's just a case of like you just turn up you have to donate to our
patreon 6k a month for six months yeah i can get down with that no it on it's jam media law
yeah we're not selling jar media this is like nfti this is a literal real life nfts
this is just an ft fungible token yeah the car is the token man fungible Toyota it's fun as
fuck it's a fty funny Toyota yeah fungible
So Jarlings, let us know.
Because if any of you actually, if any of you are passionate about as much about the piss as we are,
send us a message. Send Alex a message on IHE stating.
I won't see that shit. Don't bother.
Do it somewhere else. Do it up the jar ready. I'll see it there probably.
Yeah, but genuinely, on a serious note, let us know what we need to do.
Because it needs to be passed on.
I can sell it for 1P on my eBay page.
There you go, do that.
No, because then eBay take a portion of it
and they'll take the 1P.
99P.
You could get more than that.
That being said.
It's not got the best MOT history.
I'm going to be really.
It's got a dodgy MOTI history.
It doesn't have a dodgy MOT history,
but the last MOTE, it was like...
Replaced all this.
Kind of.
Just scraped by.
Just pissed on by.
Yep.
Well, my car's got a...
The last, like, since 2017, my cars have an MOT history of, like, repair the windscreen because of crack.
If, I can't repair the windscreen because that's come from Japan, the car would generally just be witten off if I crack the windscreen.
So that's a good thing.
Does that not make every drive the most, like, tense that?
I just don't care.
If the police pull me over, like, your windscreen's cracked, fuck them.
I ain't repair in it.
No, just do Jim's fart strut, he heard.
Yeah, the farts, bro.
Or actually just shit yourself
Yeah
No, whenever there's a police car behind me
I shit myself
Legit, there's a bit of poo in my pants afterwards
Yeah, if I hear those sirens, I'm shitting
It might be an ambulance, but at least you're prepared, you know
Yeah
If in doubt, shit it out
Yeah
Anyway
We'll catch you on the second part of the...
Yeah, we'll catch you on the second episode
of today's episode
Yes
it's freaking me out how I look like
you know
you know that cat from that
cat in the hat
yeah Shrek you know
Good afternoon morning evening
on night ladies and gentlemen
welcome to the second half of the show
of the Jamiesel podcast episode three plus one
for this segment we head over to a nice little
bit of jar Reddit
five nights at Freddy's Reddit
it to answer some questions.
If you want to ask a question, find the, the, the, the, the, the suggestion thread.
The suggestion fed and drop us a question.
If not, just like reset my head did, who's, um, starting us off with a really difficult one to answer.
Cool.
Is there any update about the jarchive?
I remember when the Patreon was launched, once, oh my God, I can't speak, once the lads
received a certain amount per month from memory, it was like 400.
but to be honest I don't know for certain
then they'd upload the old episodes on the RSS feed that are missing
I remember there being a brief mention on the podcast that work had begun
I think by a jarling but since then I don't think I've heard an update
so as if I've missed any
I think the last update was from 2020
Chisguna's just being a cheeky wanderer
listening to the old episodes from Google Drive at work
just isn't it
well that whole I think COVID kind of like
kind of
So my understanding is that there is a jarling who is
prepared all of the audio files and has it like ready to go
but it's a case of individually uploading every single one of these
properly naming it doing all the metadata
and it's just a case of I just haven't got round to it I guess
the thing with JART and it's why like there's a delay in like
unboxing videos and whatnot is because time
time is a resource
we never have enough time
yeah
So it's like I could do that
Or I could be working on another video
Or as good as they say
Or any number of different things
I probably would have changed
The like the tier
Probably on Patreon if I'd like
New
Whatever
Like what it would require
The work it would require to bring it up today
Basically what it's going to require
Is just dedicating a day
Just be like okay
Let's just do this
But it's a matter of just etching it in
somewhere. It is on my mind
but like we have we've got like
we've got the charling who we've been meaning to get back to
for like since last year
that's how like far behind we are
like we're not being rude
we're just we are just all
balancing a lot of plates
we are all on that way every day
I wake up and there's like five things
this person I've got a message this
thing I'm behind on or whatever it's just
a bit much after
after a while you know
we will we will get on it
just like how we will get on extra videos at some point
it's gonna happen we are just a little bit we're what we're grinders okay we grinders
run the grindset over here you know
Dick the head has one for James what's your favorite epic rack battle of history
skip next question for serious though you guys talking about YouTube slash
YouTubers you watch growing up do you think they had an impact on your sense of
humor um i didn't really watch anyone funny when i was growing up no i don't lie you watch like um
oh what was it called see no no what was that uh uh it was that series that used like video games
for like sketch comedy um uh uh and it had like animated segments uh lyle mcdugebag did one of the
voices and he got screwed over by uh machinima machinima what was that what was that series
called go on breit it was like your lifeblood at that time what the fuck was it was
Oh, what was it called?
Lyle on something else?
He was two people, it was Laii on someone else.
Yeah, he was one of the main voice.
There was another, an English guy, right?
It was the other voice.
I do know, yes, but I don't think it affected my humour.
I'm friends with Alex.
So, of course, my humour is going to be a bit further up.
Like, the person who's had the most influence on my humour is you two.
But you always say how much you hate our humour.
I do actually fucking hate it.
So how's it influenced it then if you just rejected?
I know, because I find it funny.
I have to blend in.
Like, do you actually think I like the Eternals?
Well, we can only go off what you say you like and you said you liked the Eternals.
I did it.
You enjoyed it.
You enjoyed going to the cinema and watching The Eternals.
Yeah, you loved it.
No, because you went into it ready.
You thought it was going to be the worst experience of your life.
And you're like, oh, this is actually kind of, this is kind of fresh.
There's something to this.
I don't lie no I'm not like what this is the truth bro this is this is the
truth I need to talk about this is admitting our sins addressing the drama
bro sanity not included yes that was it that was the one I did watch
sanity not included I know I did like it but it doesn't I have a different
I have different humor now because I'm well yeah it doesn't
The question is just like...
Yeah.
Yeah, YouTube as you watch growing up,
it doesn't necessarily have to impact it all of your humour.
I liked all the, like, animators, only...
Yeah, they were really quingy.
Um, John Tron, stuff like that.
Oh, can't say that bad word.
Yeah, bleep that way.
Can I be totally honest?
Yeah.
I found Jack Septickeye when he was at like 100K.
And I fucking couldn't get enough of the guy.
I know, you love Jack Septych.
I loved him.
I genuinely did.
Jim's good at finding those gaming
YouTubers that haven't caught fire yet,
you know?
No, like,
back then it was for like,
when you are younger,
those types of channels are
core.
Because you can't buy your own games.
You have to wait until, like, you somehow get money,
like a family member visits,
and they're like,
I want this child to like me,
So here's 50 pounds, and then you can get a game.
Mm-hmm, yeah, right.
Well, we're nowadays, it's like you have to give them 80 pounds.
This is why...
Get the best edition of Assassin's Creedville.
This is why the new generation will never be the same
because they have free-to-play games.
Well, yeah, they have Fortnite.
Yeah, you don't need another game if you have Fortnite.
Yeah, free-to-play games was such trash
when we were like that kind of equivalent.
Yeah, I played them, and they were bloody awful.
I spent a lot of money on them.
There was like a dark
Allbit fan who like left a comment
I don't know if I screencapped it
Yeah I think you did because I remember seeing it
Um
But yeah
Jack Septicai
I don't know
I used to really like
I think they were originally called
Inside Gaming
Yes
Inside Gaming
They turned into Funhouse
Yes
Oh
And then
That's right
Yeah
And then it all went a bit dodge
but I was...
I watched Inside Gaming as well
It's like the Machinema days
I watched a lot of Machinima creators
Because Machinima were that...
Machinima was just everything
Yeah, yeah, because Inside Gaming was Mishinema
Mm-hmm
When they were screwing over every single creator
They could get their hands on
Yeah
Absolutely ringing their necks
Including Ice My 3 acts
I'm probably still subscribed to a whole bunch of them
But what else do you associate
With that kind of era?
Oh, Dungy
Mm-hmm.
Dunkey's been around the block, but he is a YouTube legend.
When I first discovered Donkey, it was like, holy shit.
And the thing is, I still go back and watch his, like, classic videos.
And they're still funny.
Some of his best videos were his old-school Mario 64,
where he's just, like, telling stories and playing Mario 64.
And those videos are actual gold.
He, his, his humor still hits today, like compared to back then.
Dunkie's a legend.
he is a gem
yeah I wish I could have like
one percent of his
he's a genius as well
I don't know how he makes it funny
some people just have the gift man
which is naturally funny
um for me
fuck what's he called
yatsy
oh yes zero punctuation
yeah big time
Um
Shit
Alice you also say ex-hast man 3-X wasn't it
Yeah he was seminal
As far as my development
No because this is a thing you were so
You had a different wave of humour back then
That you were funny in being
Like having weird things with YouTubers
That was your like that was funny
Like you, I-H-E
Your existence is an influence on me
yeah true especially all the early videos you're like constantly referenced within the videos i'm
pretty sure yeah right actual quinges nowadays i think about it no you gotta be cringe to be baseman
i know and we are jarmid you are based as fuck yeah it took a few episodes
a few yeah it took um three plus two to be three that's that's the podcast rule right
the podcast rule is you just you gotta do a hundred episodes before you even start to even begin
to be good right yeah that's just yeah that's just the way honestly or in our case three plus
one yeah we made an episode where all we did was talk about ordering takeaway like we've come from
the sloppiest of like well bro and it's despair this this is one thing about jar i never saw
coming was like the different sects you know that are like now warring within is it normal is it
curry is it one of the new ones you know see that's the thing i don't even know enough of the episodes
because I don't know what episodes
have like a cult following
besides the two obvious ones
This is getting so out of control
that the number doesn't even represent
how many episodes we've done
It's not even remotely accurate
The number doesn't even mean anything
If someone walks up to me
It's just like I really liked episode
212 or 136
I'm gonna, I don't know what the fuck
ever happens
I remember titles more than I do numbers
Yeah
Wait like the numbers
mean nothing. We've been doing this for five, six years.
Jars, we're close to 10 years of JAR.
Yeah, like, because we did the blabs.
Is it 2015 or 2016? Or if you're counting blabs, that's even, you know,
JAR started with blabs. Yeah. The first, like, jar blabs are like the short hair one in, like,
2013. And people are still pissed at you about it. Oh, it's actually, it's actually popped
up on the Reddit about my take on short hair. Completely changed, because I was wrong about short hair.
then. I would admit, but
that wasn't short hair.
What does short hair
mean? Short hair? This is short
hair. No, but it means
something different. Yeah, that's...
No, but short hair on a guy is different
than short hair on a girl. No, but that's where I think people
are angry with me because I was saying I like short hair,
but my idea of short hair is like
shoulder length. That's not short
hair. But it is for
like a woman. It's not, though. It depends
on the woman. There's no
like, there's no, like, it means nothing.
You'd have to measure every woman's hair
To find a medium
In the world to find a medium
And then you can say
Well, if it's short than that
Then it's short hair
Yeah
But that's useless
And the thing is
I have no preference to long or short hair
Hair's hair
Hair's hair
Man
It just people look better
With different hairstyles
People suit different hairstyles
And if you
You rock their style
You like you look great
So what the title
of that blab bean nowadays.
James is wrong.
Was that not even related to her,
just James is wrong?
In general, it kind of fits
to a lot of things, just we will.
Everyone is wrong.
You can't be white unless you are wrong.
Yeah.
Jarl's been like the most humbling shit,
you know?
Because we'll be going off for fucking 20 minutes
talking about some shit and we're like,
yeah, this, this, this and that.
And then one person.
Yeah, that thing.
One person is like, actually, you clearly don't know shit.
Yeah, I mean, it changes our entire axiom.
Everything's changed.
Yeah.
One comment, that's all it takes.
Yeah.
No, one person that actually knows one thing.
Mm-hmm.
One thing.
One singular thing.
That's all it requires.
One singular thing.
And then we're like, oh, shit.
Yeah, I guess we don't know one thing.
Yeah.
That's the power of the internet, man.
Buggie's been preaching it for years.
And you simply can't address all your wongs when you've been doing a podcast.
this long. Exactly.
You just got a...
You've got to be right to be wrong.
You got to be wrong to be right.
And then you'll still be wrong.
You've got to be on the right to be wrong.
Just act...
Yeah.
What?
Nothing.
Is that the cast name?
To be white, to be wrong.
White to be wrong.
That's quite a good name, actually.
We have the white to be wrong.
some people have the right to remain silent
we have the right to remain wrong
we have the right to remain silent
here we should start every episode with that disclaimer
we have the right to be wrong
and we probably will be wrong
always
yeah
stove jeb says hey mangers
I had something I wanted to share with you all
since it kept me up at night
I was with my friends and we're talking about what we'd name our kids
if we ended up having them
my one friend genuinely said that he'd name his kid's SpongeBob
because he felt it was such a common name to him
this gave me James energy but also made me think about
how celebrities and other famous people name their kids bizarre things
my question is are you lads bothered by this
I personally feel like it creates even more problems for the kids
who already grew up in an atypical environment cheers
so you're saying about naming your kid in ways that will get them bullied in school
because that's what it comes down to because if you have a weird name
you're getting bullied.
Yeah, but how can you be bullied in school?
If you're, like, if you're...
If you're Elon Musk's, like, kid, I think you're right, you know?
Yeah, you just don't get therapy instead of just do cocaine when you're old enough to process your trauma.
What pops into my head instantly is when Game of Thrones was at the height of its powers.
Everyone was naming their daughters after Calisi, not knowing where the story was going to go.
That's cringe.
It's like stuff like that, and I'd probably say the same.
People might hate me here, but, like, tattoos.
Don't, if you instantly love something, you got to let it.
You've got to give it a certain amount of time to know your actual feelings.
Give it a year or two.
Then do it.
I wouldn't name my kid Salika just because I suddenly like Salika's.
You know, that's a bit of a bit crash.
It's saying that, though.
Salika is kind of a cool word, you know?
Salika is a cool word.
So just don't name your kid.
The main thing when having kids is like, will it get bullied?
What you do now could get your kid bullied.
Spang's just cruel.
Why would you do that?
No, but he must.
become a bully because he's so self-conscious about his name that he's horrible
but but this is why we invented the subcategory of nicknames yeah like so name
your name your name your child something that's not gonna get them bullied
something that's just you know a normal name and then you can nickname them whatever
you want the silliest shit you can think of that's fine jim like jim but but isn't your
nickname jim as well that's that's the fuck the brain fuck who jar yeah yeah
A nickname of James is Jamie.
James has both of our names as nicknames.
I just have to whack both of you off and then boom.
There you go.
You've solved it.
Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
We got a deep one.
We got a genuinely serious one here.
Yeah.
From Blue Lamp 77.
Would you guys say the pandemic has directly significantly changed you as a person?
What I mean by this to avoid confusion, if Thanos snapped his fingers now, deleted COVID from existence and the world instantly returned to how it was in 2019,
would you be a similar person to who you were before the pandemic or significantly different?
I'd probably be different because I think if anything, COVID, at least for me, having done working for home for so long, it changes the view, what I desire from a job.
why I've changed drastically to building mechanical stuff because it made me so like
you know this is dead end this is not what I want so yeah if Fano's just kind of
slapped that all away yeah I think I would be a different person because I'm more
confident because I was just like I'm going for this job and I'm getting this job
you know the confidence for me it changed that everything your life is pre and
post-COVID yes there's a very clear like an extremely clear like an extremely clear
line in the sand oh this is when I got COVID twice and it fucking changed everything
and the flow of everything and the the way everything sits yeah I don't know which
which version is better to be honest the the Thanos snap version that just came back
that maybe managed to avoid the whole pandemic part of me wants to say that that
version would be I disagree the current news always the best year through
experience but the more you experience the more richer and better you become even
you're saying you're saying the perspective that the pandemic awarded me yes is
worth it's a tool to your belt it's another skill you can use and that's always a
good thing even if it's bad but you if you learn from it's always good your
character development I could I could have avoided getting COVID multiple
times though yes that's your own fault that's
What did you mean to smile for?
The first time I literally got it
was when you couldn't even buy masks
and I wasn't going anywhere.
I went to the supermarket once
and then got it
the first time I went
because I was going to fucking starve to death
if I didn't.
See, the weird thing about it is
I've been directly exposed to COVID
on numerous occasions
and I've been fine.
No issues at all.
Yeah, me too.
But Alex here is just like
you've got it twice
and you were the most cautious about it
every time.
cautious but
I'm also probably the most likely
to be immunocompromise in somewhere
I made a treat
about this the other day on the jar account
and it was just like
things we suffer with
and it was just like
oh and I only did it to make a joke
that Alex's immunocompromised
because you got cold this week didn't you?
I thought it was going to be one
but it was just one of those 24 hour
bullshit
probably hay fever
well I thought that too but
I don't know I don't think it was
because I never get ill
I've never got COVID
I've been exposed to it
and I'm relatively never ill
Like if I in a year
I'll probably say one to two days off of work
Due to illness
Pretty good
But you Alex
Me Alex
Yes you
You are quite the
Sick boy
Well yeah
And then it was a case of like
Oh maybe I should
Maybe I should get some like
Tests and whatnot
You should
Absolutely
But the healthcare system is swarmed to the degree where like the waiting list is so obscene.
Even for private, can I just, even for private, like it's actually so fucked in the UK, I'm actually unsure what to even do at this point.
Man up.
Nothing.
Yeah, just man up and just, yeah.
Just fucking deal with it.
Take your licks, you know.
Yeah, just fucking drink alcohol.
Yeah, that's the best solution.
Yeah, drink, drink the pain away and then take.
of pasting when nobody's looking.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
My answer to this question, though, is
it totally depends on where you,
when you're asked this question.
Yeah.
Right?
If like tomorrow some bullshit happens
and then I'm like just down.
You'll lean the dumb.
I'll be like, yeah, it'll be so much better
if it never happened.
Like, everything would be different.
But if you're happy with,
where you are right now then you'll say like it made me better in a way it's it's good because
I am where I am yeah and I'm in a better place now than I was before COVID as am I so I can't
say it was a bad thing for me you know yeah and I I just gooned my life away in
half-life Alex anyway so it was kind of perfect timing and I just got my I I just got my I
I got my VR headset in lockdown.
Funny thing about the VR headset.
I kind of got that for you as well.
I found it and I was just like, yeah, buy it.
Did you?
Yeah, I thought my mum did.
No, Facebook Marketplace, because you were like,
you said in a brief conversation,
oh, getting VR is nice.
I was like, you want VR?
And then two days later, you own VR.
Yeah, 200 quid for a VR headset.
Don't ever talk to me about wanting anything.
No, you do.
Always, because you'll find it.
You get it for a great price.
That's the James trick.
Yeah.
I'm a natural born barter.
No, there's a fairly early concast, I think, where Jim talks about his early experiences with VR.
I remember, it was a GMOB one, wasn't it?
It was sitting around the campfire.
Yeah, and then suddenly I get really excited talking about VR, because it was the perfect time to experience that.
And for me, being such like a dork about half-life, to just have a period of time where I'm, like, locked.
in a house.
It was a goon hole.
Ooh, what can I do?
Oh, I guess I'll just spend
12 hours playing this thing
that I'm fucking obsessed with.
Yeah.
But you learned that to me and I played through it?
Who?
Me?
I played all of Half-Life Alex.
I haven't.
Great time.
I borrowed Jamie's V-R and I didn't play it?
You started it, didn't you?
No, I started Boneworks.
Yeah, that's right.
And I got a bit sicky.
Did you ever talk about it, Alex?
Boneworks?
Yeah, you did.
Because you talked about the zombie part.
No, Alex.
Half-Life Alex.
Alex.
I feel like I did
I did talk about Half-Life Alex
and how much I enjoyed it
Yeah, I'm not sure, bro
Yeah
Too busy playing Halo Infinite, you know
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I keep having the urge to go back
But it's a bit of a
It's the whole process of setting up
Time sync
And I still haven't finished olden ring
Yeah, unless you've got like a VR room
dedicated to just having the setup already there
Like, just forget about it, you know.
But, I mean, the technology is getting pretty nuts.
Mm.
Yeah, if you get like a new index or something, you've got it sorted.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Bitten hair has one for you, James.
Jarre, I'm very disappointed.
The episode before last, James said he would genocide all fox hunters because he thinks people
who hunt animals for sport are psychos.
But James, do you not eat meat and animal products for pleasure too?
It's not like you need them to survive
Like you're living in the wilderness
If you carry on this hypocrisy
I'll hunt you down like a fox
You've been born
There's something different about just eating food
And killing things for enjoyment
But also you're specifically referencing
The fox hunting drama in the UK
Which is a specific
Uh
Yeah
Controversy right
Where it's about the brutality of hunting foxes
And the game of that
Yes
Do you feel the same way about someone
who's just going out into the wilderness
and culling deer
see no this is a different thing
because there's for Germany for example
there's a very big problem with boar
and that they they're dangerous
they're straight up dangerous and they
they breed quickly from what I'm aware
so if you don't control that population
becomes a big issue
if you are someone who's quite easily
just paid to go out and coal them
it's different you're not doing
you might enjoy it the person killing
might enjoy it but at the end of day
it's just
like they have to do it for an ecological
reason. They've got to keep
a balance. I'm not an expert
in this. So some of the things I say
could be wrong. This is just from what I have
heard have been told about. But that
is still very different from the
sport of fox hunting.
Yeah, fox hunting is
I guess different to
normal just like game hunting. Yes.
If you're hunting for meat, doing it respectfully.
Because obviously the whole hunting
thing comes down because
people in America do hunt and they do hunt for
food.
And realistically
that's no different than going out
fishing for fish.
It's the same thing.
Do I have a problem with it?
Surely it depends on the approach.
Like there's respectful hunters, there's disrespectful hunters.
There's people in America who pay to
go to Africa to kill exotic animals.
That's no different to fox hunting.
Someone who is generally
using game to eat.
Because at the end of the day I imagine
in America getting a gun is probably
cheaper than buying food on a regular basis.
That is the reality.
So if someone has these rifles, has sniper rifles,
and they are just killing deer, any game, for eating,
I can't be 100% against that.
Like, yeah, maybe killing animals is not great,
but then that becomes a thing where it's like I'm eating meat.
You know, there's a, it's not 100, it's not clear, you know.
I can't, and that would be hypocritical with me.
So I'm not going to have a big problem with people doing that in America.
but I think there's a very big difference between that and fox hunting because you go
you can watch the videos of people feeding dogs foxes just to train yeah the whole
just to train thing was just they were like brutality yeah like it's just so cruel yeah because
it's not because they're not eating the meat because there's no meat left it's not they're
not gaining anything from it besides the sadistic pleasure in seeing an animal being
whipped apart and this is the thing I'm not 100 cent uninformed about this
because I worked for a fox hunter and I've been a big controversy in the UK for ever since
I was a kid I remember there's been a conversation because it's being banned it's a
it's banned yeah and this is the thing my my at the time boss was against this ban and he knew
ways to get past it and he said he would make it out as if the ban is so limiting and you can't
wide a horse on the field because you instantly get pulled over it's not the case
mm-hmm it's not the case at all it's not nearly that straight they will find these foxes
and they will hunt them.
It's a big thing.
It's English culture.
What do people do on Boxing Day?
Hunt foxes.
Do you have any thoughts, bro?
Yeah, man.
I thought you were impassioned about hunting, bro.
I mean, I am and I'm also not.
James put it much better than I could,
but I think there's an inherent thing.
in a human's brain
where it's like
hunting and killing an animal
is good
it's like providing for
it's how what's what we've come from
every human goes back to that
so all of
all of hunting is like
that but modernised
so it's nice to sit
in my ivory tower where I'm meeting
KFC every other day
by acting like
killing animals
so heinous and
I'd never do that but I mean
if your brain releases shit that makes you say
that was a bit nice
you know
well imagine the elation like a bunch of
early man taking down a mammoth
yeah what kind of like it's like
oh that relief that like oh I've got
we've got food for like the whole village
communities were based on that because if they didn't get that
catch they could die through the winter
they had to
you know yeah that's what I mean so like
I don't want to say anything extreme
because it's so ingrained
into just being accessible now
where you can take yourself away from
like if you've never killed a thing
like I'm assuming all of us
like killed a
I mean I'm not talking about bugs
like
like none of us have gone out with like a bat
yeah we've never gone hunting yeah we've never
gone out of a bat and killed a badger
which is again another controversy
in the UK recently because Jeremy Clarkson
was like I'd go out and fucking batto badger
because that's a thing
when you talk about these subtext
people in our area farmers
they have livestock
foxes do kill livestock
and there's other things that can destroy
crop so to person it's like this is this person's
livelihood that is being destroyed by an animal
that they can't control
yeah so obviously they're going to want to kill it
pleasure from actually like killing that
That's the distinction for me. It's the ethical
decision in terms of how you deal with
what you're doing with the hunting. Are you hunting for food?
Are you hunting purely for pleasure, for a sadistic pleasure? Because that's
fucked. If it is a sadistic pleasure, but if it's more of a, yeah,
this is an area where this specific type of deer needs to be
controlled in some way, otherwise the local ecology is going to get out of control.
I feel like
that's just inherently more acceptable
than hunting down a fox
and just to fucking
brutalize it
if you're that guy who's
culling the pest
right and
when you land that shot from really
far away whatever and you're like fuck that was
a good shot that's made me feel really good
that I've killed this thing
like is that inherently bad
because he's killed a thing
and it made him feel good
like you can't control
no you can't control the emotions that people will experience getting that dopamine
yeah and that's what I mentioned that it's like that people are going to get pleasure
from it people might go into that career knowing they're going to get pleasure from doing it
yeah but they're still doing a job that is necessary and needs to be done as opposed to like
the foxhunt where the brutality of it is the pleasure yeah like it's one of the main
motivators surely yes yeah there's there's a line that is drawn some
Somewhere in my brain, but I don't know it. I've never gone hunting and I don't really ever want to if you if if if I were to say like oh I hate hunting all hunting's bad then I'm a I'm a I'm a hypocrite because I'm going a KFC
Mm-hmm I'm the that's what I mean because we
We meet is so accessible. Yeah, we're so disconnected from the process you can go to the super
We don't have to think about it's like hundreds of animals obviously if we go to a slaughterhouse. We're gonna be we're gonna feel fucking sick and we're gonna feel bit
disgusted because we're now seeing that
the result was giving that meat on our plate
would that make you go vegan
well no because this is the thing because I was
a veggie for a long time you were and it was
kind of eventually what made me cave was like trying to go down the
moral you can't you can't live in this society
and like live in a truly moral way
that's not exploiting some group of
if it's not the food and
If it's not the meat industry, it's what, it's what the iPhone that was built by a child slave?
So like, like, at what point, where do you draw the line? They're like, if I'm, if I'm not eating meat, then what? I guess I can't wear leather. I can't buy leather clothes. I can't have leather in my car. And this is the thing. Lever is a very durable material that we've used for hundreds of years because it's durable. Yeah, but, but also it's shit like rice. There's deforestation.
Yeah, soy is the same. Yeah, soy.
Like these farms, it's it's caused chain reactions so that like animals are losing the habitats.
Like trees are getting cut down, blah, blah, blah.
The problem is, it's like a quantity thing.
There's too many humans that need sustaining.
You can drink all the soy milk you want.
you can eat all the rice you want with no meat and shit
and try and live as holistically as possible.
Actually, there's nothing wrong with that
if someone wants to live like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I agree because there's less like direct suffering,
but there is still suffering.
We can't avoid it.
I remember we stumbled across this kind of conversation
a long time ago on the cast
where I accidentally bought a can of beans
that had like some sausages
So it brought up the question of like, well, I've already supported the industry, it's already done.
That was my argument.
It's a done deal.
Yeah, you paid for it.
Yeah.
So at that point, what difference is eating it or not?
See, this is the thing.
This is where I kind of had issue because not every animal that's killed for meat and anything like that, not all of that is going towards people.
Some of it's going in the bin.
Some of it's not being bought.
So even if you don't buy it, even if you do buy it, that animal still does.
dead and that animal might be worth it's death might be in vain have you gone to the
shop sometimes and seen him out frozen chickens that have just gone in the bin in the
reduced section they're just being wasted even if you don't buy it you're is the
system is like that we build a system this is the ultimate thing though is like it how
much responsibility is on the individual because that's what's complicated right
because like like simultaneously if if every individual
If everyone in the UK just was like, okay, we're just not going to buy this kind of meat anymore
Then that would change that would change the industry if no one was buying but that's not the case like me
Not buying that can of beans with sausages in is not going to stop the thousands of other people do this is the thing
There's people who are specifically buying more just to spite you people do that people be like oh he didn't buy the beans because he's vegan
I'll buy double the amount. Yeah people get weirdly like defensive and upset about it for whatever reason
But I don't know man
It just seems like at a certain point, how is it on the individual?
Yeah, it's a thing where, like, I find myself, if I think about it too much,
like, it just loses all.
Yeah, because I make it like a point of pride to produce as little, like, rubbish as possible.
So, like, if I get to every two weeks, the bins are collected,
if I can open the bin and it's like a third full, I'm like, that's cool, sick.
Like, I'm happy with myself for that.
You're doing your bit.
I look down the street and every other person's bin is over fucking flowing some
people have two bins some people have three so I'm just like okay so that's me
doing all that yeah like it is just on this one street alone it's already
undone so like it's actually no this is the thing I say I think I spoke about this
a last week or you cut it out but everything you do if everyone in the street
if everyone in calm does their best the come my company alone in a day would
produce more waste than you save it's not about
it's not about us, it's about corporations.
I've got about, in a day, in a week,
I could probably fill 20 boxes full of waste.
And that's Waste bubblewap.
Waste packaging that's being flown from across the world
to make our products a wife safe.
That's one week.
I've got a whole box in my car full of it.
One day.
That's like a tech company.
What about all the food companies?
What about all the supermarkets?
Genuinely, this is right, you can't.
When you think about this is not.
not sustainable at all.
And at the end of day, the only thing you can do is do what makes you feel best, because it's
your life.
And the end day, I feel okay getting really fucking angry at people who kill for pleasure.
And I'm not going to hide from that.
If someone wants to fly to Africa and kill a line for joy, fuck them.
They're a cunt.
And I can be angry about that.
I'm okay with being angry about that.
I think the way it should work when you go to one of those places, if some fucked up
dude wants to kill a human
and you've chosen to go
and kill like a lion or a zebra or something
they've not just gone they're paying hundreds of thousands
and these are going to people who are profiting from it
not the communities in the area
there's a really good Louis through where he goes
and he can't follow through with it
because part of it for me is like
yeah hunting is ingrained in humanity
but guess what like hundreds or thousands of years ago
we didn't have fucking rifles
that could kill everything in one hit.
It was like an actual...
It was a fucking challenge.
You had to train.
Because if that, if you, if you're, me,
I'm going to use myself an example.
I'm quite thin.
I'm quite, I'm not big, right?
If an animal hits me,
I'm probably going to bleed out and die.
But if you spend years training your body
to be a fucking Greek god,
maybe that hit will be the second ring for you
and you'll kill it
and you will save your village.
You had to train.
Yeah, you had to, you had to perfect the art.
That's also why having a small win for you.
cock is way better than having a big cock and balls way better, smaller target.
This is what I think if you get in a fight, always kick the balls because it's a person
who's your fighting's job to become prepared. Kick them in the balls. There's no shame in it.
Yeah, but also if they've got a tiny cock and balls that gives them an advantage making them the
more alpha male. So when you really think about it a lot, having a small cock, like a tiny cock,
having a little cock and...
cock's easy to hit.
Yeah.
And there is one
one semi-decent smack
on a big cock that guy's down.
Yeah.
And then you've lost all that time
you've spent training your muscles
pointless because you've been done in one go.
Yeah, because you've got a big fat cock.
Idiot.
This is why you've become prepared.
This is why you take steroids
and get a smaller cock.
End of day, small cocks
save lives.
Yeah.
Thank you for watching.
If there's one message you can take away,
is that small cocks.
Why now? If you've got a big cock, goon for the next week and make your cock small.
Also, look at pictures of gorilla cocks, because they're not very big.
Guerrillas could beat unifying, and they've got small cocks.
They've got tiny cocks. They've got smaller cocks than humans.
They do. They've got tiny cocks, and they're not shamed of it.
No, because they've got big fat muscles.
And they're not going to be knocked out in one go by people hitting their big cox, because they don't have them.
Yeah, they've got tiny little cock and balls.
They just smack it in each other's body because they know they're alpha enough to have small cox.
Isn't it proportionally one of the smallest winkies in the animal kingdom?
No, that's the, I don't know, there's the bird that has the really fucking big cock.
Yeah, the duck.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, ducks have massive cocks.
Yeah, yeah.
They're not like punching and kicking.
Each other in the cock.
Yeah.
Yeah, because they just fling their fucking 25 meter long cock.
No, but what does a bird do?
What does a, what does a duck do when you approach it?
He runs away and flies off, unless you got some bread.
Big cock, pussy on.
Yeah, big cock pussy, pussy, gorilla, massive.
muscle monster
tiny, tiny cock and
smaller than ducks.
Guerrillas have smaller cocks
than ducks.
What does that say?
We all have smaller cock than
ducks. Yeah, proportionally.
Yeah. They're fucking loaded, man.
Yeah, I'm not
a fan of ducks the more I learn about them.
They're kind of cute, though.
They are cute.
They're like, nobody they use that to get.
It walks past the little withering kind
and there was these little baby duckies
And it was like, baby ducks are mad cute.
They are mad cute.
Bigger cocks and guillers, even when they're babies.
Probably.
They're out the gate, bigger cocks.
But you know what?
Who will win in a fight?
A riller or a duck.
Train your muscles, not your cock.
Yeah.
None on that, no.
I think that's it, guys.
Thank you for watching.
Huh?
Okay.
Okay.
I'm going to be able to be.
