JAR Media Posdact - Couple of Cuds and Two Rocks - JARCAST Episode 133

Episode Date: October 7, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wow, it's nice to be back in the host seat. Hello, welcome to the Jowcast. I'm your host for this episode, Alex. Our new host, we've never spoke to him before. He's a completely new character. Fresh, fresh face around here. Feeling very soft, warm and cuddly. And over here we have James.
Starting point is 00:00:21 And to my immediate right, Jamie. Now, we should start off by why the fact, Why the hell are you wearing a dressing gown? When you're fully dressed, mind? You're fully dressed underneath. It is a bit chilly to be fair. Oh, it's cold. It's not cold now.
Starting point is 00:00:41 In the morning, yeah. I understand that. And it's like four degrees. Like, it's been early this week. Okay, let me just fling that question. Right back here. Why are you wearing sunglasses? The sun is down.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I'm not. That's the joke. Okay. So, this is the Jarm Media podcast where a bunch of dudes, just fucking chill, bro. Speaking of chilling. Oh, nice, nice. Speaking of chilling and getting absolutely hammered. Not hammered, but fucking blazed.
Starting point is 00:01:16 When you take one too many tokes, is what you're saying. No, just any amount of tokes. James, are you opposed to the toke? I'm not opposed to it. You're not opposed to weed. So you would smoke weed as well? what you're saying right now. For a bit of context, we had,
Starting point is 00:01:31 we've had this debate a few times with James, where James is very anti-marijuana. This comes up, because you and I just got back from Amsterdam. We were fucking whores, we were snorting coke, we were eating brownies. We were going to like,
Starting point is 00:01:51 fucking cults and shit. Yeah, that's what's going on in Amsterdam nowadays. Sacrificing them to. the lost Lord Apu. Yeah. But James, explain yourself. We're in the 21st century. We've actually had a weed episode of like 20.
Starting point is 00:02:10 When I said that like, I'm no, I'm not. You mean in JARCast episode 20, we referenced marijuana and you said. Yeah, we discussed it. No, there's an episode called, like James won't ever smoke weed or something like that. Really? Like James hates weed. Really? Because there is an episode like that.
Starting point is 00:02:26 A jar, a James Blab. It might have been a James Badd. It was like early job. Yeah, okay, okay. But I guess the question is, if I would. And I guess the whole thing about weed to me is that I don't want to get out on my own head. And what weed does, it just makes you a bit like, I don't know. You can't, yeah, I wouldn't say.
Starting point is 00:02:47 You don't associate from your own body. Oh, and that's. Unless you green out. Yeah. I just, I just. I don't see it. I don't... You don't like losing any sort of control, do you?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Because you don't drink... I don't drink alcohol much. You don't snort. But you'll drink a little bit of alcohol, though. You're not opposed to drinking alcohol. You bought some whiskey the other week. There's a thing. It's like...
Starting point is 00:03:13 My parents bring this up all the time because when I was younger, when I was like 14, I'd be like, fucking drinking alcohol, stupid. Why did you ever do that? Why would you smoke? And now that I have a bottle of whiskey, they're like, they just bring that... They quote me all the time.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And it's just like, I don't see... Having a glass of risky every other week, I don't see you drinking alcohol. Drinking alcohol is like sitting there drinking three pints. Well, I mean, you could, what you could do, say if someone likes the feeling of a good toke, your mates are having a hefty toke, and you just go for a one light one. Not even that and there. But does the idea or mystery to it seem not alluring at all to you? No.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Really? No, it doesn't like entice me at all. It does nothing to me. The idea of doing drugs, it's just, it's nothing. It's not something I want it. I'm going to go out of my way to, to do. But to be honest, if I could smoke weed if I'm the jewels, fuck me. I'm in there like if I can.
Starting point is 00:04:17 You couldn't keep up with them though. I know. Because they'd be, yeah. They'd be fucking. They're snoop-dogging it over there. They love it. Yeah, non-stop. No, no, no, like marijuana.
Starting point is 00:04:26 it does have some health benefits but no that's i think that's like known is if you do that i every so often it can be good for your health but it's like when you go overboard of it it's like you know so i i i can't see snoop dog as it's someone who has a functioning brain anymore because he's just high on that he's got that good verse and that gorilla song yeah exactly i'd sort of lost hope in him because i mean he was doing that what was that movie i just went on the other day and he played like the president you know it was like a parody of
Starting point is 00:05:01 the purge that was it black people purge whatever it was called something like the black purge yeah and we had no idea it was supposed to be a parody because normally it's like a direct kind of riff on a horror thing trend but this one didn't have one
Starting point is 00:05:16 anyway yeah point is you'll drink alcohol though and uh no but even then I don't I won't like go out and drink drink drink I got five pints of cider I will drink when the last time I drank alcohol was okay besides on the weekend where I got fucking
Starting point is 00:05:32 shit face um besides that you did not get shit faced I had like five five cans of cider and that for me is like a it would be a lot for me as well see I don't like alcohol did you no no no no I you drove in the morning like the morning after so
Starting point is 00:05:49 that was a good amount of time for it to kill my body but the last time I drank alcohol besides that when we were playing with six and I drank whiskey that's the only time and it was like a small glass I don't drink alcohol I like the taste of alcohol
Starting point is 00:06:02 that's why I drink whiskey but it's like yeah it's like I don't want to go to use so you so you felt what being drunk is like yeah I know what being tipsy and I get in that stage
Starting point is 00:06:12 no because I scream laugh and it's quite what's wrong with that why that's nice it's yeah it's nice and funny but it's just like I have the worst headache the next day and I don't like it
Starting point is 00:06:22 because that day What people say, people say weed is like drinking, but no hangover. Even then, that doesn't entice me in. Is it just the fact that it's illegal in this country? It's not a legal thing, because even if I were... But then you smoked a cigar? I smoke, yeah, we smoked a cigar like two weeks ago. Yeah. It's right. But it's not illegal.
Starting point is 00:06:45 That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, you... So it is illegal thing. No, no, no, no. I don't think so. Because even... I think it partially is to you. Yeah. You're a bit of Superman. In a way it is, it's like, because it's always been illegal here, it's like, I'm not, I know, I was never grown up, like, anywhere near it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 My purpose never talked about, so it's like, I guess, subconsciously, it's like, I don't. This feels a bit, like, wrong almost inherently just from. Like, I, I, I've never broken a lot. I've never, like, shoplifted or done anything like that. And I guess it's just like, that's just how I am. I just, I can't. I, like, I, when we did cigars, I did that because we're all doing it and we'll just drinking a bit. And it's just like, yeah. But that would also go the same with weed. If you and your friends are doing weed, it's just like that still applies.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And I could still do it in that situation, but it's just like something holding it back. Well, so theoretically. So theoretically, we could peer pressure you into smoking weed. Yeah. No, bad, bad, bad. Like, we both know. No, the thing is, I would never do that. Yeah, me neither.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I would never, like, want or expect you to. Do weed. Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean. If I was having a bit of a chug-worthy toke, would you be more inclined? You wouldn't be convinced you see me convulsing in the corner. I would not convince you anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:07 A tiny bit, but you know I can be per-p pressured. You know, and something happens, I can be a bit, ooh, yeah. But you're normally the one trying to peer pressure everyone else. Yeah, it's not normally trying to get you to do something, because by the time we've even thought of it, you're already doing it. well that's not that's like that's like deciding more food tree and shit yeah that's simple stuff not like drugs but it's just like if i were going to do any try go it'd obviously be weak it's like the simplest it's the one with no it's the one that's still baffles me that it's illegal yeah i know i could i it should be legal like completely there's no reason why i shouldn't
Starting point is 00:08:46 be but it's just not my thing but even if you think that there are health dangers or potential risks with with the drug um are they any more than the ones freely available already if you like alcohol that that fucks up your life really really badly if you're full on they're just like we we have all these issues in this country um government doesn't have enough money with struggling financially as a country there's those of crime just fucking weed people just people that way less people are smoking cigarettes than ever but if they want to get an influx of money
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'll be a way to do it because a man The states where in America Were weed is legal They must just be Raking it in Yeah there's a few There wasn't a few Canadian places
Starting point is 00:09:35 Did it recently Like legalised it Or was it just Canada legalised it? I'm not sure but But I remember it's like I think it's killing two birds as well Because then you're just completely eradicating The crime aspect of it
Starting point is 00:09:47 Then suddenly there's a lot of crime alleviated Especially if here If it's tax law like cigarettes are. Yeah. The thing is people won't give a shit. They will want weed. So they're going to pay whatever taxes on it.
Starting point is 00:09:59 They're going to just buy it. Yeah. There'll be less crime. People aren't going to go out to steal things to get money to buy weed. It's going to fix a lob. And it's just like, I don't understand all these incredibly, this 1%. The 1% who'd benefit most on this are against doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Which I don't get. If they're fucking unbelievably rich, they're going into the offices and with their big bottle of brandy and don't see the irony in that yeah well they're token on this a girl it should be legal and do you guys think in our lifetimes it's going to happen in this country
Starting point is 00:10:36 I wanted to really I'd be surprised if it did in the UK in the UK it's the thing that the UK it's like such a it's already at a point where in places like London if you're caught with it
Starting point is 00:10:52 like they're so understaffed and have so much more to worry about like it's not even... They've already like stated it's just like if you get down they don't give shit as long as you're not linked to some kind of dealing thing or have a certain amount that means it's even less likely
Starting point is 00:11:07 they'll change it because that's work people would have to put an effort to change that rule instead of just ignoring it and keeping it in legislation but they're still after dealers and all that kind of shit they only really go after dealers so if you you caught kind of like a pouch of weed
Starting point is 00:11:24 fucking police officer's not going to do shit unless I were jobs worth or something speaking of I got my first speeding warning since being a driver Alex got a speeding warning me with the loud Mazda haven't yet I got a speeding warning
Starting point is 00:11:40 it was it was not a speeding ticket I know to pay anything it was a nearby town community speed watch is what they're called you'll see them they're in their high vizs or with clipboards of guns just like gunning anyone that's walk drive by it was doing 38 and a 30 zone which is which is really like 36 35 because the speedo's a bit over like like you're not going to heading out of the town as well I think
Starting point is 00:12:11 yeah like that's a bullshit place like in the middle of the town yes yeah and when you're leaving when people are speeding up especially with where that is it goes to 40 and then it goes to 50 instantly. It's just like people are gonna do 50. But there are no houses or like any pedestrian things really apart from like a bus stop or two. It's just shit. Whatever man. But you'll see when you rules or rules and you've got to stick
Starting point is 00:12:33 by them rules. You'll see when you go film the people coming out of you normally flash you and be like, fucking, it's the bollock speed community watch fucking flash. I've been put on a list now apparently. Fucking wanted speeders. And then I get pulled over and they're like this dork's been done for speeding.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Goddown, I'm going to arrest him just for being such a goddamn dork. I saw something actually on Facebook. So it's on Facebook, so it's 100% not will. It was just like, apparently, if you warn an oncoming person of speed cameras or those community speedwatches, you get fined a thousand pound. How did they ever know? Yeah, how would you warn them? Speed!
Starting point is 00:13:11 You flash them, you see that, that you'll get flashed. That has so many meanings behind it, though. Have you not noticed of modern cars? If they go over slight speed bumps, where the lights go up and down, it looks like so I've noticed that it's really annoying I actually think they're flashing me so I'm like yeah it's my fucking like boot open or something shit
Starting point is 00:13:29 I fucking hate it it's annoying yeah fucking cars man for real honestly dude oh yeah on the subject of cars I'm actually on a car video on YouTube now I left a car meet and fucking webbed my car on this just loudest car
Starting point is 00:13:45 but I'm on a visual on YouTube so I'm really happy Congrats you're finally on a video that's on YouTube Your car is finally in a video. It's on YouTube. The inside of the car has been on Jerkast before, but it's funny. An inside of boat. Have you taken the inside of my car car?
Starting point is 00:14:03 We did my first car. The first time we went to Swindon to Waggamums and Casas was at that time. I had the six. Wow. And it was in the night and we were like, ooh, yeah. Because I took us the wrong way. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Because you refused to listen to me. Anyway, so this is the part of the show called meme chat. This is the recurring segment where we talk about the latest and greatest memes. The memes which is, let me whip a couple out. What kind of memes we're feeling at the moment, guys? I was a fan of the bongo cat.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Oh, fuck you. That's a lame-ass meme. That is a shit. Shit. I feel like this part of the year has been particularly lame. The boo-zette, is it? Bousette, Bouset, I think. I tend to find the deepest of memes. I find
Starting point is 00:14:51 memes that... Let me see, what means this? They're not quite as prolific, though, your weird, deep-cut ones. Yeah. Let me see this meme. Don't linger on that either, because no one can see that.
Starting point is 00:15:04 No, I saw this on Twitter, so this is an upscale meme. It's a man wearing, like, five trumpets on his body. Oh, yes, no, I've seen those. Yeah. It's like, no, it's like, the meme, the meme economy,
Starting point is 00:15:18 the meme atmosphere. It's so fast-paced now. that it's like it's in a matter of days it's like a fucking updown it's like there's the peak the big peak and then fucking you know you're gonna get bullied in school that's that's that's the let it drops like I like the fucking Bousette one I saw like a fucking cosplay like music video of it and I was just like dead that's it like where's the joke in that Bowsett one nothing it's just like yeah what is it they it's like they put a crown on Bowser and then they made her
Starting point is 00:15:51 made him a woman. But then I see ones with Peter Griffin and... No, but now it's gone from that to people taking like the crown and putting it on anything and it's like transferring it or some shit. It's like there's like an evolution of
Starting point is 00:16:07 the memes. There's the first bit, the second bit the major popular bit and dead. I'd say the second bit is the popular bit and then it dies. It's hard to say because each meme... Does it die or does it go to Facebook? No, because the same thing. It goes to Facebook in seven or years.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You know, they're still in the way you've got to comics. You know, it takes some time to get to Facebook. In two years' time, mum's going to be like, Alex, I just found this really funny picture. It's the fucking bono. Well, no, if you think Angry Joe's still on like 2002 memes, so, you know, he's fucking way back. He still goes from catching up.
Starting point is 00:16:41 The epic fail in the thumbnails gets me every time. No, but it's not even just Angry Joe. Like, if you go to, like, the FIFA community or the car, the car community on Facebook. on like YouTube, 2002 memes. It's just like... Troll faces and epic balance.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And it's just like... Oh, Jesus. I don't know how. How they've continued. You've got to think about who these people are targeting there because I mean, we're veterans in the meme. We're in the like post-irony.
Starting point is 00:17:11 We can't admit to liking anything because we're scared that we'll get lambasted for it. I'm not that. I will like dark-off. I'm saying as a rule, where the sit-back and make... make fun of everything, kind of wave. I'm not a part of that.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I'm not. Let me tell you, Red Dead, best game I've ever played, haven't even played it yet. There you go. Well, no, because you think, in terms of us as a group in terms of the memes,
Starting point is 00:17:35 we're fucking years ahead. They're fucking pig shit on its own balls, which the commentary community found. We were laughing about seven or years ago. Just for context, for an explanation, and James somehow found a picture of a pig with ball
Starting point is 00:17:52 so swollen that it had done a shit and the shit gloriously rested between the massive swel and balls. They must have seen it. It was on some of the community stuff. Yeah, I'm sure. It just rested perfectly, like a little bit away from the asshole. Just perfectly placed. I just like the idea
Starting point is 00:18:08 of some farmer. I'm just seeing that, I'm finding it's so funny that they get out of their phone and take a picture. That would have been like before camera phones. Like, we're a They've got their digital camera. Gary, get the camera. A fucking pig shit he did on his room boots.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah, I don't know. Who out of the four in JAR? Oh yeah, Ruben's at uni, by the way. He's gone back to you. If you're wondering. Who in the four in JAR is, where do they lie in terms of their meme coverage? I'd say I'm the most removed. I'm the second most, and then it's Ruben.
Starting point is 00:18:48 because Ruben spends all his time on Instagram so he does... I feel like Ruben's the most educated in the meme in terms of that kind of thing followed by you, Jim. Yeah, I know more than me, James, so... I dropped off with...
Starting point is 00:19:01 Because I mean, Instagram, it's strange, Instagram is owned by Facebook but they have memes. Because the algorithm is slightly more intelligent to kind of learn and show you things. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I see indie memes. all of my recommended stuff is pure indie memes oh shit rock star just Instagramed a picture of a cat that's hunted and killed a bird in Red Dead
Starting point is 00:19:29 it's impressive stuff how mental is that anyway what was I saying I get indie memes that's where I get the creepy SpongeBob outfit dude like looking through a bathroom and again
Starting point is 00:19:42 you get a golden one exactly like the Anakin one that I've been I was okay I'm not as big a fan as you are, but do you want to find a picture of it and explain that before... The best thing you've ever shown me off Instagram is
Starting point is 00:19:56 I mentioned it on the jar Twitter. The dwarf guy. It's this like dwarf guy who I mean, just go to the jar Twitter and find this video that I retweeted. It's just the most bizarre fucking video to that song. Also, what are they called James? That Japanese
Starting point is 00:20:14 English band? Oh, Kelo Kelo Bonito. Yeah, then. Flamingo That video tickles me every time I can't Can't help it Like when I look up my Instagram Because that's where I get memes
Starting point is 00:20:32 I don't have that many memes I don't have memes at all on there Mine are all like Lego memes And stuff like that Mine's all cars I don't really look at Instagram No for some reason I don't know how this happened My Instagram is just washer
Starting point is 00:20:46 I have washing memes I don't know what I like to get weird Russian memes. It's all I get now. I don't know why. It's not just what you like, is it? It's what you look at as well. Well yeah, by looking you have to... Jim.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Jim, can you find this Star Wars one and to describe it to the audience so we can end this segment because... I'll see this thing. No, Jim. Let me see it. I need to see this meme. is someone I hate that video no you can't watch videos on a podcast
Starting point is 00:21:24 and not share it with the people watching and listening it's a chubby Asian dude with his feet behind his head with a glass of water or something placed on his ass and he like pulls a sheet from underneath it a drone pulls it
Starting point is 00:21:40 yeah a drone pulls it that's right just mean stuff I can't keep up I'm not in the meme sphere anymore but there's a difference between like a one-off funny video and an actual meme that's read and shared no but the anything can become that and yet anything's a meme at this point and any tiny Instagrammer that post shit like that that they've just found their thing can spiral and snowball into this yeah but there's the you can't really do much with that video of that guy no with a drone
Starting point is 00:22:16 but um the that Kanye song that you love oh yeah god of course that's a that's big meme but I haven't seen any meme I feel like that's one of the bigger sort of more mainstream memes no it's very mainstream like um James Corden so I feel like we mentioned that before yeah one of the worst videos I've seen ever speaking of some of the worst videos I've seen we found these please the worst video on YouTube as we were eating dinner earlier it was called something like superhero roundup super villain roundup super super villain mega ball stadium yeah and what it was was like a 22 minute video animation where it's just non-stop character character like super famous supervillains so we're
Starting point is 00:23:05 talking the godfather we're talking megatron we're talking every marvel villain every DC villain. Star Wars. Alien. Everything in pop culture. Everything on like the top level of pop culture that everyone would know. Imagine all of those characters kind of traced, poorly traced and then kind of loosely animated. And just like fighting and killing each other for 22 minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Not just fighting though. Like it's meant to be funny. Yeah, supposed to be like a play on. And, yeah. Not to hate on how it. it should have ended but how it should have ended is fucking dog shit and it reminded me of the worst of how it should have ended it was way worse than how it should have ended and how it should have ended is fucking dog shit i need to just put that out there yeah that's that might be my
Starting point is 00:23:56 least favorite youtube channel that exists really i haven't seen any of their videos in ages i don't think i've ever sat through a full one of their vids i have many times because they just blow me away each time how can you be this lazy to write the most obvious thing no because they just see what people are saying in the zeitgeist around a movie and then they just make jokes about it what's the fucking point everyone's already making your joke because that's what's that's what sells on youtube you know they just do some shit animation for it and there we go it's out god you know what all the jokes going to be before going in like say it's bbs it's going to be there'll be a joke about martha for sure there'll be a joke about the guy at the end you know the squib
Starting point is 00:24:38 A lot of men, I hate talking about that film. Squibia. Speaking of YouTube, what do you guys think of this H3, H3 drama that's going on? Back to the point, I have no idea. That's how far I'm away from this. It's pretty simple, though. H3 didn't upload to their main channel for ages. Then they upload a video, and it's like an ad video for an app that they had designed.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And then their community got angry. I can sort of understand that. I mean, you can't sort of radically change what you're doing on YouTube and expect everyone to just follow you. If people hit that subscribe button for the videos they were getting at the time, right? Yeah. So if you just stop doing that and then only do podcasts, what do you expect from people?
Starting point is 00:25:33 What I think, the podcast channel is separate, and that's doing very well on its own. Yeah, and they've been doing that, and so they haven't been uploading on their channel in forever. Yeah. Their main channel. Yeah. So, like, I don't really know. It just, I just feel like the easy solution is just do what Idubs does, just upload very infrequently, rarely, when he has, like, an idea for something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Just put that on H3 while the podcast is the consistent. Maybe that's what they are doing. But, I mean, what I think. think the way people feel is that everything is going into the podcast and they've just dropped the uh the vibe i got from their kind of apology video is that they're kind of burnt out or don't know what to do with that i've sensed that for quite a while yeah yeah you can't you can't constantly make that type of content that they have like made the kind of reaction sort of no like even the vape like vape nation video whatever is they can't just constantly make stuff
Starting point is 00:26:35 like that because it loses what it is it becomes like quite average I don't know it's a tricky one I understand whether and I'm not saying like either side is right I'm just saying that's where the fans will be coming from
Starting point is 00:26:49 yeah for sure yeah it's just like a they just need to get on that Keemstar YouTube grind yeah man just fuck like doing what you want do what
Starting point is 00:27:04 But Keemstar is in a place for his money. Keemstar loves it because he loves what he does. He's so passionate about it. And it's like the easiest content to make. It's like a circle though. He's passionate about this thing. But it gets some loads of money, which he's passionate about. So he's passionate about doing the thing.
Starting point is 00:27:22 But it's not so much workload that it's like, or creative. Like creatively exhausting in any way. No. So it's just reporting and being energetic. characterful about it. They have like completely faded out my life. All of them.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Kame Star, all of that group, I just don't hear anything about. I don't know what's going on. I just, I don't even care. It's like they don't even, they boardline don't even exist. I don't even know about them anymore. I don't think about them. It's still pretty prolific. They don't even, they don't exist.
Starting point is 00:27:56 James doesn't know about them. They just not on it anymore. Who the fuck's Keemstar? And you know what? My life's better because of it. keemstar is a necessary evil i know and he's a good necessary evil but i don't give a fuck what he says yeah it's tricky once you get into like years and years and years making content you see it with so many youtubeers yeah you can't it's not something that can last
Starting point is 00:28:23 forever how many these big youtubeers are not wound anymore yeah boyfriend versus girlfriend they're fucking gone recently they've they've made they ruin the whole life as well uh vlogging every day. That really good YouTube channel what I forgot the name of? Do you remember that like Russian channel that we did something with guns and blowing stuff up
Starting point is 00:28:43 and everyone thought he died? FPS Russia? Yeah. The one who, the guy who was called, he wasn't actually Russian. He was fake denied and then he like killed,
Starting point is 00:28:50 he's like executed one of his producers and has disappeared. Executed. I thought he was revealed was like found it in a field like a fucking headshot. I thought it was revealed that that was BS though or something.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Something happened like that. What? We can let the Jarkast people leave us in the comments. No, it was something like, one of his producers was killed, and it looked dodgy, and, like, FPS Russia, like, disappeared. To Russia. He was a fucking real life. He was a Russian spy the whole time.
Starting point is 00:29:18 He was fucking KGB all along. Anyway, we'll be back after these messages with the Reddit questions. Blub. So, this is the second part of the show, where we answer questions from the lovely Jarlene community. see out there. If you want to leave your own questions, head over to the JAR Media Reddit page where there is a thread pinned at the top. Sweet as fuck, bro. Are we ready guys for some
Starting point is 00:29:42 I'm ready? I don't know about this. Don't touch my glasses, Jim. They're nice and Matt. Oh, okay. Okay, they're fine. Did you really fucking do that? Alex, could you pick them up for me, please? Because this person doesn't respect my money and me spending
Starting point is 00:29:58 my money on incredibly expensive fucking glasses. Oh, flexing on them. Gucci gang. bitch. Wow. They're just rebounds that I got a discount
Starting point is 00:30:08 so. Back on the rocks. Okay. It's a bit cringy, but it makes sense. It's a Eurobeat song but it's like
Starting point is 00:30:17 back on the rocks it means you can always go back to the shitty place you were before. Like, you've got to be on that grind every day. That's why I've called it on that.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Makes me think of Fast and Furious or something. Back on that grind and we're going to watch too fast and furious. I don't watch, Tokyo Drive. Oh, Tokyo Drift?
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah. Yeah, man. Dad, I do me living now. When you live in Tokyo. Yeah. Our first question is from deludry, who says, If someone kidnapped all of the jar pets and would only give them back if you completed these following tasks, then would you do it? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Mm-hmm. James, you have to build the tank in one sitting. Okay, if I have everything I needed, then yes. It might not be the best, but I'd advise you. can smash that thing up okay my one is you have to play destiny one and two plus all the expansions I assume again yes argue's not well damn son yeah sorry I sorry I know he's taking my baby for me um Jim to get Billy back you could not watch Mad Max ever again oh oh he then the new one will come out in yeah doesn't
Starting point is 00:31:29 mean I can't watch any it's Mad Max Fury Road or just Mad Max one or any Mad Max? I'm going to adjust it and say anything to do with Mad Max ever again. Dude, that's fucked. Don't even... No, okay, Billy's gone. Billy's incredible, though.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Billy's worth it. I'll just get another black group. And Rubin's one, we can answer for him, was you can't go to Norway. He doesn't have any pets, so it doesn't make any difference to him. He doesn't have any pets? Well, like, his parents have, like, cats or whatever,
Starting point is 00:31:58 but he doesn't have, like, his defining creature. Well, what's that thing over there? Oh, God damn, son. My apologies. I didn't know what you pointed at. It's the fucking rat that pokes him. Abortion with legs asks. You didn't ask Ruben's final question.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah, I did. I said... You didn't have to go to Norway. Oh, right. And then I said, he doesn't need to even answer because he didn't have a pet, so... He doesn't really need to go to nowhere. Anyway, abortion with wings says... Sorry, abortion with legs says,
Starting point is 00:32:30 what was your worst childhood memory? I've got a few, almost drowning, running into a wall, getting attacked by a cat, crashing my bike because I was doing a speed wiggle too fast. One of those for it for? Jane's got quite a good collection. I remember, um, no, that's too lame. Um, I remember, you know like a raised bit
Starting point is 00:33:07 you know a raised bit a raised bit I was walking on a raised bit and it was curb yeah oh my god not a curb but it went curb it's by Sainsbury's curb bit road correct and I'm on raised so a wall it's like a mini wall
Starting point is 00:33:25 and oh yeah I think I know you about it's hell they have metal poles near them I think I was in year 6 at the time so however how... Ten? How old you are at that in that year.
Starting point is 00:33:37 So I fell over my... The corner of the raised bit concrete I slammed onto my lip Dude And it split open blood everywhere
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm like screaming Um That one wasn't even my fault There was nothing to do with me I was I was filtering through ones Because I don't think anybody wants to hear Stories about how cruel you are So I chose this one
Starting point is 00:34:05 But I slam my lip And I just remember The worst part of it was After I was done like crying at stuff I said to my mum Am I going to get the day off school tomorrow And she was like, no I was like
Starting point is 00:34:23 So that was all for nothing then Yeah That's fucked up That is a fucked up story I've thought of one now What It's pretty lame in the back of the car
Starting point is 00:34:33 must have been going somewhere or some kind of long journey and had a pillow had a pillow with me a feather pillow do you know this a feather a pillow stuffed with feathers a goose pillow a goose feather pillow
Starting point is 00:34:51 one of the feathers came out of the pillow and got it went at my mouth and got stuck in back of my throat and it was like it was just stuck there and it was horrible feeling it was only a feather like inch or too big like dive in my pillow like that fucking big no no no it's just perfectly caught in the back of my throat so whenever it was like anything was happening I could feel it and I
Starting point is 00:35:21 thought this is like my life is over because it's gonna be because it felt horrible to breathe because it tickled and it made you feel like you're always going to be sick and I thought I was going to be sick. So I was really stressfully just going, oh. Trying to get rid of it. How did you get rid of it? I think like an hour later, I think I asked for some water or something and gradually got
Starting point is 00:35:49 rid of it or I just threw up. If it's got the spiky ends, like the long ones, I could really like kind of cut your throat. I couldn't get caught in your throat though because it's so fucking massive. But they're always a little bit spiky. That's how they get out of the pillow in the first place. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's one of my worst memories for sure. I remember one of my memories.
Starting point is 00:36:08 This wasn't even a young one. We were in the old house, Oxford. We're in your womb and we're playing something. And I don't know. I ate something. I think it was jaffa cakes. I had the idea to eat like five jaffa cakes at once. Or something.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So I stuck them all in my mouth and I just started choking on them. And you guys were in the womb. I was like fucking suffocating. Really? Do you not remember? I can... I was just like... Really?
Starting point is 00:36:35 And then I like stood up and just like... I actually don't remember this at all. That's the one to the bathroom and drink water because I actually was fucking dying. I could not fucking mean. I must have just assumed, oh James is just doing that shit again. No, I was straight up fucking suffocating and you guys like did nothing and I was like... Because I thought you were just joking. I...
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yeah, but what would you do if I started? doing that right now. I'd be like, Jim, well, the fuck, because you can see it. But then what? Fucking. Exactly, you have no idea what to do.
Starting point is 00:37:10 So it's best if you don't actually try and do anything. Well, that's actually suffocated. Like, I dropped on the floor and I'm just like, well, then that's like a cool ambulance scenario. Call the ambulance, strange will be fine until they get here. Yeah, I remember that. No, I remember that because it, like, fucking, like, I had a sore throat for weeks
Starting point is 00:37:28 because it got so jammed up. Really? What the fuck? I just don't remember that at all. I did. Because then I was just like, my friends almost let me die. That's what I said, my name. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:37:40 But it was really bad. How would we never mention that until now? Yeah. I did at the time. No, no, literally. When I said it to you like, the next day you're like, change your bullshit and that did not happen. Which you did a lot at that time, but I joke, I shit you not. I always suffocated.
Starting point is 00:37:54 It's messed up, man. Yeah. Messed up. Don't suffocate. Ollyhollick says thoughts on K-pop music and the fan base built around it. Dog shit. K-pop, um, uh, Next.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Well, the fan- You can't complain about the K-pop fandom and not complain about everyone else. All the other fandoms. Like the fucking B-N-H-A, which is an anime community, is like 10 times worse in K-pop. I'm really not familiar with anything in K-pop because I think it's fucking dog shit. music is dog shit the music is designed to be dog shit it is no it's the truth the the the people writing the music are completely separate from the stars i mean no it's like uh it is highly it's it's like you know the worst of our pop it doesn't even scrape this the surface of our pop manufactured kind of celebrity it's beyond manufactured no yeah you just
Starting point is 00:38:57 There's no, these poor girls that are being forced to... You're the guys as well, like, live... Well, guys and girls, but I mean, they're forced to be on a... Or have a ridiculous weight, so they're all, like, anorexic. Unbelievably skinny, yeah. Yeah. And they're long work now, it's because they're, like, fucking... They're work to death.
Starting point is 00:39:17 They can't have any personal life, and they don't even get most of the money. No. No, it's the same with, like, Japan. It's like, the, the music. isn't created by them. It's created by people in suits and buildings who are making it so it can be the most successful money making thing possible. And that's the whole thing
Starting point is 00:39:35 and it's disgusting and people eat it up. They fucking love it. It's like the stuff that happens in Japan. It's the epitome of being a sheep of just doing what you're told by people that have more money than you. And it's fucking pathetic that anyone likes it. Nobody like generally fucks up their lives
Starting point is 00:39:53 because... It's fucked up, man. If they're the young ones and they get into the group like 16, 15, like some of them are, they don't get education because they're fucking grinding by people. So they, when their fame ends, which it does, because it's a temporary thing. Yeah, they're just left to rot in a hole. Yeah, they're put in a fucking bin. Porn industry you go.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It's all you're good for us. It's fucking disgusting. But then all of these fandoms, they idolize them like in saying. They don't realize that these people's lives are fucked. And they're just like, oh my God, this person just fucking licked an ice cream. It's like They need to realise that it's fucked up But yeah
Starting point is 00:40:37 I've got some K-pop songs on my phone I listened to it completely No, wait You don't listen to it ironically When I mean you're giving the money I'm gonna fucking glock you in the name When I'm in traffic like during summer In the windows are down
Starting point is 00:40:51 I'll play K-pop just to be a dick So if only walks fast I see my loud car and then K-pop and it's just like You should play J-pop out of your car I do I listen to that non-Ironically Echka Oster says I've been re-listening to old episodes
Starting point is 00:41:07 of the Jarkas recently and among older things it was interesting to hear sorry other things it was interesting to hear your predictions for the future of the show for example you joked about having chairs but you have couches now
Starting point is 00:41:20 have you ever imagined you'd be at this point you are now with the show and more importantly what are your predictions for the future of the show another year or two from now. Well, to be honest. I'm surprised we got past the floor to this. Someone replied to it saying
Starting point is 00:41:34 in one of the old cast Alex said that we need a dog on the cast. And now we've got two dogs in the jar family. Well, it's weird because it's like we started on the literal floor and it could only get better and we knew that. But it's like it's surprising... It was part of the strategy almost. It's surprising it got better because
Starting point is 00:41:52 it was so awful that it's just surprising we didn't give up. we had how many mics too we had more on the early days of one yeah yeah for how long it's it was like that's how bad it was sitting on fucking blow up things in a tiny no you weren't even sitting on anything you were on the floor like one of the early episodes we were all laying with our backs and now you know we actually it's quite sure though it's a good sign of like progression when we've gone from that to actual shit chairs new setup.
Starting point is 00:42:28 It's funny, there are like distinct stages of the butterfly, yeah. So where's it gonna go from here? I don't know where it can, yeah. The sky's the limit, boys. We do it with the background of New York. Yeah. And we have CG Spider-Man swinging around. Well, where are we going from here, boys?
Starting point is 00:42:51 An Iron Man. What? I mean, how can this improve? Am I right? Are we actually going to go to being in a cave? We go backwards on here. That's a future we just... No, that's forwards.
Starting point is 00:43:04 No, no, I know where we're going. We've already been in a cave. We're just going to go to filming the jarcast in IKEA, just sitting on some sofas and... Different sofas every episode. Yeah. We should do a jarcast on the road or in their car. We should get that IKEA dude that noticed us.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Oh yeah. It was called Ben, wasn't it? Something like that. IKEA Ben. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, me and Jim didn't see him. Yeah, we did. Yeah, hook us up.
Starting point is 00:43:26 So we've got an inside man. He helps us set up... He can sneak us in at night and we can all think that nobody's run. Thanks in advance, Ben. Dick the Head says, What conspiracy theory do you believe is real or at least somewhat true? Thank you, Jarlongs. I've got one.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It's just a movie one, though. Oh, what? What, the moon? The lunar moon? No, no, it's the Jajabinks one. I'm a believer. I'm a believer that Jar Jar Binks was originally like a Sith or something I'm a believer
Starting point is 00:44:00 There are too many weird things in the Phantom Manus It's so weird that the animators like It's not an actor just doing a weird thing because it has to be Every frame has to be animated by someone Why would they put these weird details in? Where's my tint for? But that's not conspiracy theory that's not just a theory That's not like life-changing that's just
Starting point is 00:44:23 George O'Binks None of them had life-changing Yeah, 9-11 is straight up life-changing Alex. Yeah, that's quite a big deal. No, but the conspiracy theories. Yeah, I've, okay, let's be real.
Starting point is 00:44:34 What difference does it make? Okay, you've got concrete proof that this conspiracy theory is true. What the facts are you going to change? So you wouldn't feel any different if Bush, if you knew for a fact, Bush did 9-11? But I will never know for a fact because...
Starting point is 00:44:48 Well, it's impossible. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But doesn't it ever just gnaw at you? one that's how i find that's how they all get you how do you think Alex Jones like has gone on for as long as he hang because he's a fucking turning the frogs gay
Starting point is 00:45:02 he targets that small doubt that small niggling doubt people have and some people are more susceptible to that doubt he called Hillary Clinton an intergalactic's blood-sucking child kidnapping vampire come on we can't use him as an example he can use him as an example
Starting point is 00:45:18 he did this shit there are different levels of like what people believe. Okay, give me an example of a conspiracy theory that you guys are down. Okay, no. Okay. I find JFK very sketchy. His assassination.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I'm not saying like these, I just take everything for face value. I just say, what am I supposed to? I don't necessarily think jumping to popular conspiracy theories is necessarily the best way to go about it. Well, I think, okay, in a broad way, every major event, there's more to it. Yeah. Guaranteed there's something going on. on because you can't think governments are so powerful there's something and the whole the history's written by the winners thing as well well yes you don't know like just little
Starting point is 00:46:02 details here and there but the devil was in the details so these all these icons from important figures of history they might not have been exactly who they've been depicted as and all these little bits and pieces what would you doubt about the JFK JFK one the person that killed him he was like an American wasn't he though like it's an American
Starting point is 00:46:24 yeah but you know like he was immediately killed before he could trial yeah but I heard that some of it like he was like
Starting point is 00:46:35 spent a lot of time in Russia or something or something like that I don't know but the thing is what's sketchy about it to me is that some
Starting point is 00:46:45 some dude kills JFK the police get him and then he's immediately killed so oh he did it we can't prove it but that's our scapegoat I've actually just searched a list of the ten conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:47:00 most prevalent in America number five is the JFK assassination 51% of Americans believe that there was a conspiracy behind the assassination 51 in a large survey in 2013 what year did he die get assassinated 63 was that before
Starting point is 00:47:18 after the Cold War? Or drawing? It was... After? Sort of after? The Cold War didn't really have like an end, did it? No. So then obviously there'd be a bit of...
Starting point is 00:47:29 The Cold War was so fucking deep and shit. It's like... Yeah. Yeah, the lack of a clear satisfying explanation for who was really behind it, I guess, is the main one behind that. Let's go through some of these other ones. Let's see what you think. On 9-11's obviously.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Number one, the Illuminati. The Secret Group controlling the... a world. Is that one too far? Illuminati. Sort of. Well, let's... It is too far,
Starting point is 00:47:56 because, like... That's like, um, Marvel kind of shit. Well, you know, um, Deus X. Yeah. Like, the Illuminati are just straight up in that game. Well, yeah, they're the people like, who can plant, like, the bugs in, like, the... Yeah, it's, like, pure fiction.
Starting point is 00:48:11 So... Well, I think what I would say is not that the Unite is real, but it's a case of the 1% help the 1% But that's an economy thing That's just like business I wouldn't say that Yeah, it depends where What you mean by that
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah Yeah, I don't know Then what's the West Number two President Obama wasn't born in the US And maybe a secret Muslim No No sense at all
Starting point is 00:48:38 That's like a you know Go to the like some hick You know pro Yeah Why Trump actually But like anything that he did how does him being a Muslim effect
Starting point is 00:48:48 The theory was that Barack Obama was originally born in Kenya For someone he's born in Kenya is a pretty perfect American accent Yeah Like, spot That's these conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:49:03 72% of Republicans in 2016 Still expressed skepticism About the president's place of birth Okay Number three was the attacks on 9-11 Were an inside job I feel like that's That's the biggest.
Starting point is 00:49:17 It's got to be the biggest conspiracy theory. It's been made fun of now. And... Okay. I've watched a lot of stuff relating to 9-11. And I'm not going to talk about the trade center buildings. The only thing that I'm a bit funny on is the plane that flew into the Pentagon. Because I'm pretty sure somewhere the government said it was a Boeing to the same plane.
Starting point is 00:49:40 But like the damage to the building was nowhere near. And the only engine they found in the record was from like a bi-reiber. I'm not even a jumbo jet Here's my thing about the like 9-11's conspiracies thing I feel like people give way too much credit to the government
Starting point is 00:49:57 of being capable of being able to pull off these immensely elaborate schemes that they seem to be like we're talking about I don't know much about living in the US or that but applying it to our government and how like a net they are like just general things
Starting point is 00:50:16 and how everything they run is like full of all this pointless layers of bureaucracy and like nothing can change or ever get done and I'm supposed to believe that they are capable of being able to orchestrate these immensely elaborate joker level
Starting point is 00:50:32 what if the Illuminati does exist then? The thing with... Then that's when you've got to start thinking. The thing with 9-11 is it's like you can't believe they planned it all. Like, one of the things that was explained in why it happened is the fact that the people, the terrorists, they, like, I think it was the CIA, knew they were in the country, but didn't communicate with any of the other people to stop them. Yeah. Like, if you were to be a conspiracy theorist and say that they did it, it would make sense that the CIA wouldn't tell anyone to make sure they did bomb the trade.
Starting point is 00:51:04 But do you think it's more likely that it's ineptitude or some kind of secret conspiracy? I'd say it's ineptitude. well yeah that's more likely especially like that there wasn't a concern for that sort of attack up until that point and from my understanding they were like so late to even reacting to it so it just completely spired out of control like what what country did america invade off that was it afghanistan or iwack i know because we were just kids iwack i'm pretty sure but it's like this whole thing of massive incident happens bin Laden is you know the fault instantly invade a country that has oil
Starting point is 00:51:45 yeah that it's just like it's America and you know for a fact when they can get oil they invade countries so in a sense of watchman level scheme where it's like it's like it would be a good way to get the general public on your side like they did this to one of the our most beloved cities
Starting point is 00:52:05 I don't yeah I do again I don't think that there's definitely loads of fishy weird like information that is not crystal clear about it you know and that kind of thing um but if you just break it down to the very simple basic of ridiculous tragedy that changed the face of the earth no matter who orchestrated it happened americans being incredibly patriotic government was like we should do this yeah so obviously the people can be like yeah they did this so we need to do this yeah depends what part you focus on like I don't know how I'd feel about if I was a soldier and that was supposed to be my main motivation for doing shady kind of things or more the the more the thing I focus on more is the like tragedy of the like the loss of life from that.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Well yeah and the impact it had on that city yeah but then there's just stuff like the WMDs in Iran or something where it's just like there was none but the go the US government like yeah there is it's like no matter what there's dodgy shit. everywhere. No matter what, there's always something wrong. Apparently it was proven that there was reason to believe that they had weapons of mass destruction and the government wasn't just lying about that. There was, yeah. I know, yeah, there's... Like recently, not like recent, recent, but this year or last year, that came out.
Starting point is 00:53:28 What else is on the list? What really makes it spiral out of control is that it's all like secret information and when there's secrets, it just leads to guessing and then the guesses just get out of control and people love the secrecy and the doubt of it all. I feel like as well with getting your head around such an atrocious act like 9-11 and to think it was just some people wanting to go to Valhalla and you want it to mean more than that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:00 This just waste of life, all that lives. Maybe that is an aspect to it as well. Yeah. We never know. Unless there's some ridiculous expose Or some shit that happens in our lifetime We'll see So what else is like this one
Starting point is 00:54:14 We'll probably will be in agreement on Lizard people, aka reptilians, are running the world This is a very sci-fi Hollywood variation On secret groups controlling us It's kind of the same idea as the Illuminati thing That's straight up Alex Jones That is What they believe is that the top echelon of our government
Starting point is 00:54:37 is actually controlled by shape-shifting reptilian aliens who have been lauding power over humans to make them into mindless slaves. Then it's the JFK. But what even suggests that? Dude, I don't know. The fact that you can't just prove it. It's that thing.
Starting point is 00:54:56 That isn't a conspiracy theory to me. That's a fucking fever dream. Aliens have contacted us or are contacting us. What about that one? A variety of events come under the rubric of beliefs in alien contact among these mysteries like the alleged 1947 crash of a flying saucer in Roswell. The ensuing government cover-up of that incident supposedly links to Area 51. Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Okay. Area 51. It's just a secret base for America to test secret weapons. that's not anything conspiracy have aliens come in contact with humans and it's been hidden through all humanity
Starting point is 00:55:45 well I think highly doubt it there is life it's dumb to not think the amount of planets there are there's life even if they did contact us
Starting point is 00:55:58 how can a government control that if aliens went down somewhere and talk to someone, how can the government know and be able to control that so everyone doesn't know? If for a second, there was a glimpse of it in how we are now, the world would know
Starting point is 00:56:14 because media. Yeah, now, the thing that would be confusing to me is, okay, sure, maybe an alien craft crash landed on planet Earth, right? Let's say that happened. For that to have happened, there would have to be some species out there capable with the technology with the entire setup to be able to be able to even do that in the
Starting point is 00:56:36 first place and a being of that intelligence why would they just allow that to happen and have no kind of response to it or why would they just leave it that doesn't make sense to me they'd recover it instantly and why would why would one just clash if their technology is that advanced how would that you know like how would they even crash or why would that happen you know
Starting point is 00:57:08 like it just seems it seems very like science if you think for example when like when there's secret missions and they have to destroy the property that's done they destroy anything that's left
Starting point is 00:57:20 why would an hyper advanced race not clean up something that's happened when it could completely change our world that stuff we've gone in an instant so there's not the government uncovering anything up they would have been kind of covering up like like when was this was what thing happened
Starting point is 00:57:37 what age what year 1960s or something no way before then 47 so I think 47 that's when they were testing a lot of borderline that's the early jet engine stuff so it can make sense why America might want to keep that under closed doors
Starting point is 00:57:55 so it makes me Experimental playing the quashed. Boom. We've only got a minute left here, but there are still loads more of these. What's the call? We can keep going. We don't have to be on an hour. Should we keep doing them?
Starting point is 00:58:06 Yeah. Some of these are quite good and I want to hear what you guys think of them. You got on. Keep going. Um, so continuing on these conspiracy theories. Um, of course, the moon landing. The moon landing was faked. Usually by, as theorized it was Stanley Kubrick who directed the...
Starting point is 00:58:25 I that that theory is stupid why is that because you hire a Hollywood actor to film a director sorry to to film this and just expect him to never say anything mm-hmm like if if you signed up to something like that on your deathbed you'd have to tell someone we'll leave a clue somewhere or yeah well people people People think there's clues in the shining. Yeah, and that's one of the theories that that's what the whole film is about, don't it? Yeah. Like the little kids got the spaceship. Mm-hmm. And something to do with the shape of the famous carpet.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's something spacey. I know. I know they do it so it makes them look like they've out-achieved the USSR. Yeah. That's it, but it's just like... What? So the evidence is the flag appearing to move. Which shouldn't happen because there's wind in space.
Starting point is 00:59:37 No wind, sorry. Because there's no wind in space. This was disproved by pointing out that the flag only appears to move during the moment of unfurling, something which would happen even without wind. Yeah. Makes sense. No need to overthink that one. the theory also says that only the first moon landing is fake
Starting point is 01:00:00 and the ones after that were real okay they just send they just send a walk it into space and that's it that's it boom done like nah I can't believe that number eight the FDA is withholding the cure for cancer why this idea maintains that the FDA and big farmer figured out how to cure cancer a while back
Starting point is 01:00:30 but are not making the medicine available while big farmer has not made itself for many friends amongst the public there is no evidence that such a vast conspiracy as possible as it require the participation of thousands if not millions of people in both for profit and non-profit it makes more it makes more sense that selling the cure would actually make more money That's what I was immediately went through my head You could market it to that That could be a huge Huge sales thing
Starting point is 01:00:57 Oh yeah Country should lap that shit up Yeah But even then like If it was that easy to Come up with the cure for cancer Like why wouldn't our country do it Yeah what about all the people that
Starting point is 01:01:11 If it took that many people to find it Chances are Someone in their families Or someone they knew will develop cancer or have cancer and what would they just secretly cure them or what
Starting point is 01:01:28 yeah I don't know about that one it's cancer's too big and it's just like the what cancer is it's we do we do not have the technology to even start because it's not nice at all it's quite complicated I can't believe that
Starting point is 01:01:42 chem trails do you know this one well I've seen like a meme not a meme video but like on Instagram I'm sure that the Plains went over cam trails and then clouds appeared or like clouds are after. The idea says that the trails you can spot in the sky behind planes are actually chem trails. Some kind of chemicals sprayed by the government to control the population. Of course the trails are just contrails created by the combination of vapor from the planes engine combined with the loo.
Starting point is 01:02:12 This is what I'm saying about this like doubt and as soon as one person says it, people are like, oh shit. No, but that's like, there's no. doubt in my head with that one. No, but think about it, people of a certain level of like intelligence and critical thinking, they might think, oh shit, I've never thought about that. What if it actually is the planes controlling me? And I've never questioned it because the planes told me to think that. If they were controlling us, how would we even be able to think that was a possibility? Like, if we're being controlled by fucking plane. Plain people, and throw planes.
Starting point is 01:02:47 But it's like how would all of these private like airplane companies have fucking chemicals in passenger planes Yeah It's like if you not notice I can remember recently because it was really nice to do Clear Sky, two planes
Starting point is 01:03:04 One really higher Chem trails, the other one below it not Simple fucking altitude That's why one of them has one of them doesn't Do you like how you can sort of layer the conspiracy thing is that That could be the lizard people doing that That could be the lizard people
Starting point is 01:03:20 Maybe they're not shape shifters But they're sending out these chemicals from the planes To keep their identity So you see them as human But they're actually lizards just walking around And they are the Illuminati's, the littered people Yeah Why do you think these planes
Starting point is 01:03:34 Why do you think the trade centres Knocked down? Because it wasn't the jet fuels The chem trails who were burning the steel beams That's why it collapsed Fucking push them into one Make everyone crazy You can probably link all
Starting point is 01:03:47 of them don't don't start Alex don't why was JFK kill wait hang on we there's one there's one more there's one more then we'll link them all and then finish this of course we need to make like one of those boards yeah link them more the holocaust did not happen that's a that's a prevalent one there are people out there who don't believe in in that there's literally you can go to the play the fucking concentration camps like well apparently only about 54% of the world's population has heard of the holocaust according to a large 100 country survey by the anti-deformation league and only a third of those who've heard of it believe the holocaust is portrayed correctly given political realities it's not a surprise that only 8% of responders in the middle east heard of the holocaust and believed his description was true 8% You see
Starting point is 01:04:48 But then we did just criticize the History is written by the winner saying I was just about to say that Like that's the only reason that It causes a bit of doubt in my head Because the atrocities that everyone committed in World War II Just the horrible shit that went down That period of time
Starting point is 01:05:09 Like of course we'd If that weren't to have happened we'd want to make the make... As our side, we'd want to make it clear that we were doing the right thing against bad people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Well, if you think about it... Of course, you want to teach people that, like, oh, we had no choice to do all these things because look what they were doing. Yeah, but I mean, the thing is, it's not like Germany says, that didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Yeah. Because, like, World War II happened over nothing. Yeah. Like, I remember the day I learned about why World War II started and it was just like what? World 1 sorry
Starting point is 01:05:46 the the trigger for World War 1 was fucking stupid mm-hmm that was happened because there was a political like issues before that happened there was like people like getting frictiony well yeah World War 1 was just like
Starting point is 01:06:04 bubbles it was it was empires like having issues yeah like what everyone just getting a little bit scared of each other and then And then, yeah, one gunshot, and it all just fucking kicks off. What I can think is that if you consider all of the, the Axis, yeah, she had Japan, America, not America, Germany. Japan, the big thing they have was, like, the, uh, the genocide of, like, Chinese to slaughter.
Starting point is 01:06:34 The Nazis were, you know, the Holocaust. They were the bad guys. We fought them. But then after that happened. Russia are the bad guys and then you've got gulags and you've got the same basically the same thing arguably worse I'm pretty sure but what I can really say is in every war that shit happens war was disgusting that's what happens yeah I can't I thought the Holocaust did happen I can't deny that it's just yeah and it's not it's not to the to the degree where we're taught as if
Starting point is 01:07:07 everything that this side did was right morally or anything it's it's more presented as kind of factual yeah like when you learn that America nuked Japan that's fucking horrendous
Starting point is 01:07:23 because it's I mean I don't remember that it was completely necessary yeah it's one of those you're damned if you do you don't well no do you actually think it was necessary to do the Japanese were fucking
Starting point is 01:07:35 they were awful at that time my understanding was yeah my understanding was that their their whole system was built around never surrendering yeah never surrender we're the best we're gonna conquer everyone
Starting point is 01:07:49 because they had done they'd never lost and so if they if America didn't put their foot down Japan would never have stopped and that war would have just gone on and on and on I and they were like a vicious army as well weren't they
Starting point is 01:08:06 yeah the way they went about well everything for them was to forward Japan they were there were like a colony of bees, like so just coordinated and on it. If nukes weren't a thing, I'd be surprised if we'd have won. No, I disagree with that
Starting point is 01:08:26 because the whole Japan thing was they were trying to be the biggest, like, power in the Pacific. They're the biggest fleet. And obviously, they attacked Pearl Harbor to prove a point to America that they're the fucking big dogs. Then obviously, as America, you know, got more involved, they were massively bigger than Japan. Japan were constantly losing their power in the Pacific.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Their fleets were being destroyed. And it's like, then they did the kamikaze stuff, you know, getting planes flying into it. But I think they did that because they didn't have the manpower or skill to be able to combat America one-on-one. So it was just like... Why don't I understand is, why did they even fuck with America? Why didn't they try and build a bigger army?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Because they had this huge ego. They thought, we're the best, nothing can top us. And they poked the bear. but it's like when Japan started losing territory skilled pilots because by that time
Starting point is 01:09:20 all the pilots were like 15 year old kids 16 year olds people are age going into planes fucking flying to aircraft guy because that's what they could do and it's at that stage
Starting point is 01:09:28 where I don't think Newkin was necessary because they lost so many people they lost so much skilled people that if they're at the point where they're sending 15 year olds to kill themselves to destroy countless
Starting point is 01:09:39 American men you need to say stop and that's the thing it's just yeah if they were never going to surrender what level would they've stretched themselves to Japan in that time the country would have just been left in total like ruin in that time the Japan was just like the emperor emperor that's it you thought that's that's a ship but then it's like I remember like this this ace of like Japan he's a he's like a rape of nan kin whatever like deny so it's a bit but it was saying like the people they didn't
Starting point is 01:10:12 not give a shit about the empire. It's all about they're just their homeland. They didn't want to kill themselves for their empire. It's just like, they're just trying to protect what they have. But by that time, they had no like skilled labours. There had no factories. And I think I heard somewhere that America decided to do the atomic bomb because they were
Starting point is 01:10:27 scared that if they invaded the Japanese would be ruthless. Like just no shit's given. Let's just slaughter Americans. So that's why they resorted to nuking as a way to protect American soldiers if they were to do a homeland invasion. was planned. They fully planned to invade the homeland. But then obviously the nuclear bomb was
Starting point is 01:10:47 developed and it's just like we can either invade a country that might just slaughter us brutally, like kamikaze like dives and all that, or they can nuclear bomb it. And obviously there's a safer bet. Send a load of troops to invade a country or bomb it in one plane, thousands. And end their involvement just like that. But the only thing I can go against. Not only though, does it stop Japan? It just sort of puts everything in a standstill because it's just like it's the most powerful thing you can ever, it's the most powerful thing that's ever been sown ever.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Yeah. But what I don't get is why did they have to do it to a city full of civilians? Nothing army related, just kids and children wives. Because the scope of the bomb is like what would be the point of them, nuking
Starting point is 01:11:36 a new king. Nuking an army base in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. No, but I don't think it's as much of damage it's cause, it's a psychological. If they wanted to show power, they didn't have to kill children. They put it where there's not a lot, because the fucking empire, the government's going to see that. But you need to
Starting point is 01:11:52 say like, we're capable of doing this and we're willing to do it. It's like a fucked situation and I could not press that button to kill that many people. I think two bombs, personally, unnecessary.
Starting point is 01:12:08 One would have done the exact same job. But I think if they didn't do it in a city full of people, it would have had the same effect. Because Japan was not in a situation where they could have, could last any longer. They did it to a fort town where there was some industry and all of that. Japan would have, would have surrendered. And I fully believe that because there's no need to kill that many people if you're trying to show power. When does you ever show power by slaughtering thousands and thousands of people? You don't. You warn. I think it's a bit, it's like a,
Starting point is 01:12:42 well you started it kind of thing like we weren't we were kind of like they didn't do much from all one one did they they were kind of oh no I'm pretty sure they were just out of it
Starting point is 01:12:54 until Pearl Harbor what America what Japan America America and World War I yeah yeah I'm World War II my understanding is that Pole Harbor is what really was like
Starting point is 01:13:04 okay fuck you then we're just gonna show you I saw a meme on Instagram I'm going back to that of um you know there's the thing where Patrick and the villain from Barnacle Boy and Mermaid Man So Patrick was
Starting point is 01:13:18 The Americans And the bad guy was the English And he was like, you're an ally right And Patrick was, yeah So when we go to water, you'll help us, yeah? So Patrick was like, yeah So we're in this water Are you going to help us?
Starting point is 01:13:34 And then Patrick said, no, I don't see the reason in that. I think Patrick was America. Yeah, Patrick was America and the other guy was England. I think don't take everything I say as Stone. It's just like... None of us
Starting point is 01:13:47 like historians. No. Not what any means. We did no research. I know. I know the most... I'm just saying what I think I know. What I remember from being taught in like... I know the most about that stuff here because that's an interest but this is all like fucking random bits glued together
Starting point is 01:14:04 inside my head. There's not facts so before the historians get angry at me just just for loose but like even in that time America was just like they knew it was happening and they were building. But then as soon as those those Japs fucking bomb Bel Harbor they were like
Starting point is 01:14:16 every single human being used to go to a factory and build tanks and it's just like let's fuck people up and that's how that happened. Yeah, it's just like the don't kick the hornets nest kind of. America at that time was stupidly unbelievably patriotic as well
Starting point is 01:14:31 I was just like I read some stuff or saw some stuff right to how just the economy in America was at that point and it was just like as soon as Bellwabah happened everyone wanted to be in factories building war machines because it's just like we need to fuck. They care about their country man yeah. The thing is
Starting point is 01:14:47 what would have happened if they'd have never bombed? Because I mean, Europe was being fucked by Germany pretty much other than Russia. Even then, Russia was as well. Russia was getting fucked. We were just getting fucked completely without America.
Starting point is 01:15:04 There's a lot of ways where World War I World War II would be different. If Hitler didn't invade Russia there'd be a big difference because he threw just people in Washington winter and just killed them. He never did that, put his forces, other places, a lot would have changed. If America didn't get involved,
Starting point is 01:15:20 we wouldn't be the same world. And America wouldn't have got involved if... Japan? Japan hadn't... Well, if you think, think how, like, England, like, if you think, like, in Asia, how many, like, there was English, Australians, Canadians. Not a lot of Americans. We were fucking shit.
Starting point is 01:15:36 We got fucking captured in thousands and slaughtered. There was no... You couldn't compete with the Japanese in those conditions. They would have controlled all of Asia. Germany would have controlled most of Europe.
Starting point is 01:15:47 They would have just had two massive empires and they would have fucking controlled the world. Simple. If America never got involved. But I would have
Starting point is 01:15:54 think in that same situation if there was no Holocaust, a lot of countries wouldn't have got involved in a world or two. There's no bad guy.
Starting point is 01:16:03 There was no fucking massive event that we need to stop. Yeah, it doesn't help, is it? It kind of makes them the villain. Yeah, but I mean makes it less gray.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Hitler also came into it being like everyone's our enemy look at what they did to us after World War I like so there wasn't really he was going to pick a fight with someone there wasn't any other way it could have gone
Starting point is 01:16:27 should not find it frightening how that's not even been a hundred years since yeah it's it's disgusting since an event so world altering world changing that could have gone so many numbers of different ways we could all be Nazis right now but does it not mean you think
Starting point is 01:16:47 what if something to that kind of scale yeah he's just fucked us what if something of that scale or degree happens within the next 20 years something of that immense kind of the thing is there's that that quote that would always come up when you died
Starting point is 01:17:05 in call or duty monomorffered to I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with but the next war will be fought with sticks and stones something along those lines just that like now that nukes have been introduced the thing after that will end the world as we know it is the evolution of like combat
Starting point is 01:17:28 we were sticks stones like gunpowder swords guns bombs yeah Nukes. But who would want to... You'd have to just be like some complete maniac. Well, that's the idea of, um...
Starting point is 01:17:43 What do you call it? Nuclear deterrence. Mm-hmm. Where, because everyone has one, no one's gonna use one. And on the top sheds, we're like the fucking big dog when it comes to that shit.
Starting point is 01:17:54 We're fucking up there. What, the UK? Yeah, got fucking the sobs. Always there. We'll fuck everyone up if they do anything. We're gonna fuck your shit up. Fucking, we might be shit, but we've got...
Starting point is 01:18:05 fucking that. That's the one saving ways. America are pretty sorted on that front as well, aren't they? Not with their military kind of output. They've got... Their floppy disk, nuclear codes. They've got good, um, anti-nuclear measures, though. I'm pretty sure. I don't know. Well, just some missile that can...
Starting point is 01:18:24 It's, like... I think it's like a vehicle. Really? They can, like, lock on to whatever trajectory it's been sent on. No, well, the... I've actually... There's a really interesting video about this, about like, nuclear deterrence. And it's just like, in the process of a ballistic missile going up, you have the tune when it takes off till it gets to the upper atmosphere.
Starting point is 01:18:44 That's it. Because when it gets up there and it starts to point down and, like, let's go. It's like it travels at such a speed. Yeah, it's really hard to pinpoint. It's like stupid, like, so violent damage would be done to the earth if it was forced to, like, explode that close to. Yeah. It would have.
Starting point is 01:19:03 some sort of repercussions the deterrent the well to stop it it's just like they either blur up before it goes up or when it's mid-flight or when it's when it's got like then there's like a 20-second gap where there it's just like opening the warheads like if they have something in space to shoot it they can diffuse it but it's like interesting because I've heard something where it's like during the Cold War I don't know what president was I'm pretty sure it was like post-JFK or whatever there was a thing called the Star Wars a real thing where apparently it's just like America were like planning, they had this whole
Starting point is 01:19:36 intricate like lie where they had these like fucking lasers in space that could shoot down Russian nukes and it got to the point where apparently like Russia were trying so hard to counter it and gain superiority that they fucking bankrupted the USSR
Starting point is 01:19:52 that's why the Cold War like ended that's why the USSR trying to counter something that didn't exist and it was the Star Wars it's a real fucking thing the Cold War was just like the best poker game ever played just so many bluffs over and over and over
Starting point is 01:20:07 and like it's crazy to think that that that fucking lie the US government like perfectly made this lie they fucking just destroyed the USSR and that's what fucking like the Star Wars so why Star Wars it's called the Star Wars
Starting point is 01:20:20 because that's a real fucking thing there's so much interesting shit when you look into the Cold War so incredible like Russia had these like planes on water and shit like fucking crazy what what i what i don't understand is why everyone turned on russia or russia turned on everyone after world war two hmm well no i think it wasn't russia it was just
Starting point is 01:20:47 like the west versus communism so north korea well why so so we we hate fascism more than communism yes so fascism fascism was our target So once that went away, we turned to Russia? Yeah. That's, that was the only end. Well, I know America fucking hated communism with a Persian. And after World War II, they felt it was their duty to, like, police the world. Well, because Russia was getting more powerful.
Starting point is 01:21:20 They were the other big dog, and America had to be like, you know, we got to sort this. Doesn't make sense. But it's just like, the Cold War was such a mess. every war's like just a big cluster fuck and like the hard thing about the Cold War is that just like at that time nobody knew what was happening yeah it was all just like this shit's happening
Starting point is 01:21:45 now just like get in your bunkers fuck it's over granny's theory of what what's going next is whoever controls like technology at the highest level will somehow be able to reign supreme so if we get to a point where every utility is controlled by some kind of robotic process or
Starting point is 01:22:09 whatever and if some country has the intelligence or capability of being able to control something like water electricity yeah things that in countries need to stay well the the problem with that is that like we don't share um like this area we don't share our water supply with a an area over there so it's all independent between regions it's all regions and it's like that idea in watchdogs that everything is under the same operating system like there's a reason we don't do that and it's to protect against that so i mean if you could stop the water supply to london which all again wouldn't all be under one thing but if you could do that sure that would be severe but i mean it wouldn't stop anything really it just makes me wonder
Starting point is 01:23:01 yeah i mean i don't know enough about like technology and shit today i would say that cyber warfare is the next step because you don't even need to like risk people's lives you fight and it's super covert yeah yeah we're like we'll never find out about well how long does it did it take to find out like exactly where that sony hat came from mm-hmm but it's like no i would agree with your your grandma that that is the next step and that's probably what's gonna happen Because like we've kind of come to a standstill on the nuke thing And there's some kind of maniac somehow managed to be held with one And some super villain scheme and then nukes some planet
Starting point is 01:23:38 And then it starts some whole Sorry, some country and then it starts some whole Retaliation thing But I feel like even if one did go off Because of some maniac There will be some kind of process I don't feel like everyone would start nuking each other It would have to be one of the superpowers
Starting point is 01:23:54 Would have to like start from one of the superpowers Like if the UK nuked somewhere like that's huge that's coming from I think in that sense the major players and the major players Russia United States
Starting point is 01:24:09 I don't think countries like India and you're like yeah no I think it's okay it's like why Russia and America have like a phone line like if shit happens like that it's just like we ain't done this neither really fuck
Starting point is 01:24:20 that that exists that's a real thing so I don't think anyone else is going to start nuking it's just like you only nuke of America told you to nuke is that kind of level of shit. They will have secret communication for that stuff. So I don't think it would. At what point would I have to get to
Starting point is 01:24:36 to get to that level where everyone at the top of all the greatest minds and the highest positions of power who have to come together and decide on the, okay, this country needs to be nuked now. What state would have to be in? You know?
Starting point is 01:24:54 Yeah, I don't know what can lead to that anymore. Yeah, exactly. Because it's not like we have warfare the way we used to. And, I mean, like you were saying with cyber warfare, I don't know what can be done with it. That's the thing, yeah. It makes me think, sort of in a kind of solid place somewhat in that kind of way. We have our issues, of course, there's growing pains from all of this crazy technology boom and how many people on the planet and stuff. Yeah, but I mean
Starting point is 01:25:28 If I don't have to go to a trench And die horribly And the worst thing that happens is somebody Gets to see what I watch We couldn't I don't feel like we could ever get to a point Unless there was some total blackout And all technology was erased Somehow that we'd ever need to do that again
Starting point is 01:25:45 There are other ways That stuff war and that that level of combat Still happens in lesser developed countries Because they've got to the same level So that has to happen but we're never going to see tanks rolling through streets in our age we're not going to be sitting there in London with fucking guns going off it's not going to happen not on a war scale anyway
Starting point is 01:26:07 plenty of gun violence and stuff around the world but yeah to a massive scale it's not going to happen but what I do know is that apparently like wusha have that have invested quite heavily into like cyber stuff like they have top level like IT boys for that which honestly I prefer because it's like okay you find out some way to ruin some you turn my lights off great yeah I'm not dead like I haven't been newt yeah well I mean that's the thing
Starting point is 01:26:33 poisoned if they can like do water stuff or something like that that's when you got to worry yeah chemical stuff chemical warfare that is and that's fucking crazy well we've got one minute left here guys um that was a really good discussion actually went on yeah but next week that was like possibly your best question ever asked yeah yeah I'd say and that was like that was a serious like actual straight of discussion good one nice question so we've got to make that thing I said about board that entire I really want one of those boards mm-hmm we can talk about that but yeah every single conspiracy fear can be linked to one upper like what about if that is the truth guys
Starting point is 01:27:16 what about that is the the lizard people can be that top Trump yeah they're back they That's how it relates to jar. It's all jar. But hey, thank you for watching, everybody. Thank you for watching this episode. Hope you enjoyed this, good discussion, quite a good episode. Yeah, we'll see you guys on the next episode. We'll see you on the next Tanguja show.
Starting point is 01:27:52 That was a good episode, I think. Fucking ho. I love it.

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