JAR Media Posdact - Couple of Cuds and Two Rocks - JARCAST Episode 133
Episode Date: October 7, 2018...
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Wow, it's nice to be back in the host seat.
Hello, welcome to the Jowcast.
I'm your host for this episode, Alex.
Our new host, we've never spoke to him before.
He's a completely new character.
Fresh, fresh face around here.
Feeling very soft, warm and cuddly.
And over here we have James.
And to my immediate right, Jamie.
Now, we should start off by why the fact,
Why the hell are you wearing a dressing gown?
When you're fully dressed, mind?
You're fully dressed underneath.
It is a bit chilly to be fair.
Oh, it's cold.
It's not cold now.
In the morning, yeah.
I understand that.
And it's like four degrees.
Like, it's been early this week.
Okay, let me just fling that question.
Right back here.
Why are you wearing sunglasses?
The sun is down.
I'm not.
That's the joke.
Okay.
So, this is the Jarm Media podcast where a bunch of dudes, just fucking chill, bro.
Speaking of chilling.
Oh, nice, nice.
Speaking of chilling and getting absolutely hammered.
Not hammered, but fucking blazed.
When you take one too many tokes, is what you're saying.
No, just any amount of tokes.
James, are you opposed to the toke?
I'm not opposed to it.
You're not opposed to weed.
So you would smoke weed as well?
what you're saying right now.
For a bit of context, we had,
we've had this debate a few times with James,
where James is very anti-marijuana.
This comes up,
because you and I just got back from Amsterdam.
We were fucking whores,
we were snorting coke,
we were eating brownies.
We were going to like,
fucking cults and shit.
Yeah, that's what's going on in Amsterdam nowadays.
Sacrificing them to.
the lost Lord Apu.
Yeah.
But James, explain yourself.
We're in the 21st century.
We've actually had a weed episode of like 20.
When I said that like, I'm no, I'm not.
You mean in JARCast episode 20, we referenced marijuana and you said.
Yeah, we discussed it.
No, there's an episode called, like James won't ever smoke weed or something like that.
Really?
Like James hates weed.
Really?
Because there is an episode like that.
A jar, a James Blab.
It might have been a James Badd.
It was like early job.
Yeah, okay, okay.
But I guess the question is, if I would.
And I guess the whole thing about weed to me is that I don't want to get out on my own head.
And what weed does, it just makes you a bit like, I don't know.
You can't, yeah, I wouldn't say.
You don't associate from your own body.
Oh, and that's.
Unless you green out.
Yeah.
I just, I just.
I don't see it.
I don't...
You don't like losing any sort of control, do you?
Because you don't drink...
I don't drink alcohol much.
You don't snort.
But you'll drink a little bit of alcohol, though.
You're not opposed to drinking alcohol.
You bought some whiskey the other week.
There's a thing.
It's like...
My parents bring this up all the time
because when I was younger, when I was like 14,
I'd be like, fucking drinking alcohol, stupid.
Why did you ever do that?
Why would you smoke?
And now that I have a bottle of whiskey,
they're like, they just bring that...
They quote me all the time.
And it's just like, I don't see...
Having a glass of risky every other week, I don't see you drinking alcohol.
Drinking alcohol is like sitting there drinking three pints.
Well, I mean, you could, what you could do, say if someone likes the feeling of a good toke,
your mates are having a hefty toke, and you just go for a one light one.
Not even that and there.
But does the idea or mystery to it seem not alluring at all to you?
No.
Really?
No, it doesn't like entice me at all.
It does nothing to me.
The idea of doing drugs, it's just, it's nothing.
It's not something I want it.
I'm going to go out of my way to, to do.
But to be honest, if I could smoke weed if I'm the jewels, fuck me.
I'm in there like if I can.
You couldn't keep up with them though.
I know.
Because they'd be, yeah.
They'd be fucking.
They're snoop-dogging it over there.
They love it.
Yeah, non-stop.
No, no, no, like marijuana.
it does have some health benefits but no that's i think that's like known is if you do that
i every so often it can be good for your health but it's like when you go overboard of it
it's like you know so i i i can't see snoop dog as it's someone who has a functioning brain
anymore because he's just high on that he's got that good verse and that gorilla song yeah exactly
i'd sort of lost hope in him because i mean he was doing that what was that movie i just went on
the other day and he played like
the president
you know it was like a parody of
the purge that was it
black people purge whatever it was called
something like the black purge
yeah and we had no idea it was supposed to be a parody
because normally it's like
a direct kind of riff on a horror
thing trend
but this one didn't have one
anyway yeah point is
you'll drink alcohol though
and uh no but even then I don't
I won't like go out and drink drink
drink I got five pints of cider
I will drink when the last time
I drank alcohol was
okay besides on the weekend where I got fucking
shit face um besides that
you did not get shit faced
I had like five five cans of
cider and that for me is like a
it would be a lot for me as well
see I don't like alcohol did you
no no no no I
you drove in the morning like the morning after so
that was a good amount of time for it to kill my body
but the last time I drank alcohol besides that
when we were playing with six
and I drank whiskey
that's the only time
and it was like a small glass
I don't drink alcohol
I like the taste of alcohol
that's why I drink whiskey
but it's like
yeah
it's like I don't want to go to use
so you
so you felt what being drunk is like
yeah I know what being tipsy
and I get in that stage
no because I scream laugh
and it's quite
what's wrong with that
why that's nice
it's yeah it's nice and funny
but it's just like
I have the worst headache
the next day and I don't like it
because that day
What people say, people say weed is like drinking, but no hangover.
Even then, that doesn't entice me in.
Is it just the fact that it's illegal in this country?
It's not a legal thing, because even if I were...
But then you smoked a cigar?
I smoke, yeah, we smoked a cigar like two weeks ago.
Yeah. It's right. But it's not illegal.
That's what I'm saying.
So, yeah, you...
So it is illegal thing. No, no, no, no. I don't think so.
Because even...
I think it partially is to you.
Yeah.
You're a bit of Superman.
In a way it is, it's like, because it's always been illegal here, it's like, I'm not, I know, I was never grown up, like, anywhere near it.
My purpose never talked about, so it's like, I guess, subconsciously, it's like, I don't.
This feels a bit, like, wrong almost inherently just from.
Like, I, I, I've never broken a lot. I've never, like, shoplifted or done anything like that.
And I guess it's just like, that's just how I am. I just, I can't.
I, like, I, when we did cigars, I did that because we're all doing it and we'll just drinking a bit.
And it's just like, yeah.
But that would also go the same with weed.
If you and your friends are doing weed, it's just like that still applies.
And I could still do it in that situation, but it's just like something holding it back.
Well, so theoretically.
So theoretically, we could peer pressure you into smoking weed.
Yeah.
No, bad, bad, bad.
Like, we both know.
No, the thing is, I would never do that.
Yeah, me neither.
I would never, like, want or expect you to.
Do weed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, I mean.
If I was having a bit of a chug-worthy toke, would you be more inclined?
You wouldn't be convinced you see me convulsing in the corner.
I would not convince you anyway.
A tiny bit, but you know I can be per-p pressured.
You know, and something happens, I can be a bit, ooh, yeah.
But you're normally the one trying to peer pressure everyone else.
Yeah, it's not normally trying to get you to do something, because by the time we've even thought of it, you're already doing it.
well that's not that's like that's like deciding more food tree and shit yeah that's simple stuff
not like drugs but it's just like if i were going to do any try go it'd obviously be weak
it's like the simplest it's the one with no it's the one that's still baffles me that it's
illegal yeah i know i could i it should be legal like completely there's no reason why i shouldn't
be but it's just not my thing but even if you think that there are health dangers or
potential risks with with the drug
um are they any more than the ones
freely available already if you like alcohol that that fucks up your life really really
badly if you're full on they're just like we we have all these issues in this country
um government doesn't have enough money with struggling financially as a country
there's those of crime just fucking weed people just people that way less people are
smoking cigarettes than ever but if they want to get an influx of money
I'll be a way to do it
because a man
The states where in America
Were weed is legal
They must just be
Raking it in
Yeah there's a few
There wasn't a few Canadian places
Did it recently
Like legalised it
Or was it just Canada legalised it?
I'm not sure but
But I remember it's like
I think it's killing two birds as well
Because then you're just completely eradicating
The crime aspect of it
Then suddenly there's a lot of crime alleviated
Especially if here
If it's tax law
like cigarettes are.
Yeah.
The thing is people won't give a shit.
They will want weed.
So they're going to pay whatever taxes on it.
They're going to just buy it.
Yeah.
There'll be less crime.
People aren't going to go out to steal things to get money to buy weed.
It's going to fix a lob.
And it's just like, I don't understand all these incredibly, this 1%.
The 1% who'd benefit most on this are against doing it.
Yeah.
Which I don't get.
If they're fucking unbelievably rich, they're going into the offices and with their big bottle of
brandy and don't see the irony
in that
yeah well they're token on this a girl
it should be legal and
do you guys think
in our lifetimes it's going to happen in this country
I wanted to
really I'd be surprised if it did
in the UK
in the UK
it's the thing that the UK it's like such a
it's already at a point where
in places like London
if you're caught with it
like they're so
understaffed and have so much more
to worry about like it's not even...
They've already like stated it's just like if you get down
they don't give shit as long as you're not
linked to some kind of dealing thing
or have a certain amount
that means it's even less likely
they'll change it because that's work
people would have to put an effort to
change that rule instead of just
ignoring it and keeping it in legislation
but they're still after dealers
and all that kind of shit
they only really go after dealers so if you
you caught kind of like a pouch of weed
fucking police officer's not going to do shit
unless I were jobs worth or something
speaking of I got my first speeding warning
since being a driver
Alex got a speeding warning
me with the loud Mazda
haven't yet
I got a speeding warning
it was it was not a
speeding ticket I know to pay anything
it was a nearby town
community speed watch is what they're called
you'll see them
they're in their high vizs or with clipboards of guns just like gunning anyone that's
walk drive by it was doing 38 and a 30 zone which is which is really like 36 35 because
the speedo's a bit over like like you're not going to heading out of the town as well I think
yeah like that's a bullshit place like in the middle of the town yes yeah and when you're
leaving when people are speeding up especially with where that is it goes to 40 and then it goes to
50 instantly. It's just like people
are gonna do 50. But there are no houses or like any
pedestrian things really apart from like a bus stop
or two. It's just shit. Whatever man.
But you'll see when you
rules or rules and you've got to stick
by them rules. You'll see when you go
film the people coming out of you normally
flash you and be like, fucking, it's the
bollock speed community watch fucking flash.
I've been put on a list now apparently.
Fucking wanted speeders.
And then I get pulled over and they're like
this dork's been done for speeding.
Goddown, I'm going to arrest him just for being such a goddamn dork.
I saw something actually on Facebook.
So it's on Facebook, so it's 100% not will.
It was just like, apparently, if you warn an oncoming person of speed cameras
or those community speedwatches, you get fined a thousand pound.
How did they ever know?
Yeah, how would you warn them?
Speed!
You flash them, you see that, that you'll get flashed.
That has so many meanings behind it, though.
Have you not noticed of modern cars?
If they go over slight speed bumps, where the lights go up and down,
it looks like so I've noticed that it's really annoying
I actually think they're flashing me so I'm like
yeah
it's my fucking like boot open or something shit
I fucking hate it it's annoying
yeah fucking cars man for real
honestly dude
oh yeah on the subject of cars
I'm actually on a car
video on YouTube now
I left a car meet and fucking
webbed my car on this just loudest car
but I'm on a visual on YouTube
so I'm really happy
Congrats you're finally on a video that's on YouTube
Your car is finally in a video.
It's on YouTube.
The inside of the car has been on Jerkast before, but it's funny.
An inside of boat.
Have you taken the inside of my car car?
We did my first car.
The first time we went to Swindon to Waggamums and Casas was at that time.
I had the six.
Wow.
And it was in the night and we were like, ooh, yeah.
Because I took us the wrong way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you refused to listen to me.
Anyway, so this is the part of the show called
meme chat. This is the
recurring segment where we talk about
the latest and greatest memes. The memes
which is, let me whip a couple out.
What kind of memes we're feeling at the moment, guys?
I was a fan of the bongo cat.
Oh, fuck you.
That's a lame-ass meme. That is a
shit. Shit. I feel like this part of the year has been
particularly lame.
The boo-zette, is it?
Bousette, Bouset, I think.
I tend to find the deepest
of memes. I find
memes that...
Let me see, what means this?
They're not quite as prolific, though,
your weird, deep-cut ones.
Yeah.
Let me see this meme.
Don't linger on that either,
because no one can see that.
No, I saw this on Twitter,
so this is an upscale meme.
It's a man wearing, like,
five trumpets on his body.
Oh, yes, no, I've seen those.
Yeah.
It's like, no, it's like,
the meme, the meme economy,
the meme atmosphere.
It's so fast-paced now.
that it's like it's in a matter of days it's like a fucking updown it's like there's the
peak the big peak and then fucking you know you're gonna get bullied in school that's
that's that's the let it drops like I like the fucking Bousette one I saw like a
fucking cosplay like music video of it and I was just like dead that's it like
where's the joke in that Bowsett one nothing it's just like yeah what is it
they it's like they put a crown on Bowser and then they made her
made him a woman.
But then I see ones with Peter Griffin
and...
No, but now it's gone from that to people taking
like the crown and putting it on anything
and it's like transferring it
or some shit. It's like
there's like an evolution of
the memes. There's the first bit, the second bit
the major popular bit and dead.
I'd say the second bit is the popular
bit and then it dies.
It's hard to say because each meme...
Does it die or does it go to Facebook?
No, because the same thing.
It goes to Facebook in seven or years.
You know, they're still in the way you've got to comics.
You know, it takes some time to get to Facebook.
In two years' time, mum's going to be like,
Alex, I just found this really funny picture.
It's the fucking bono.
Well, no, if you think Angry Joe's still on like 2002 memes,
so, you know, he's fucking way back.
He still goes from catching up.
The epic fail in the thumbnails gets me every time.
No, but it's not even just Angry Joe.
Like, if you go to, like, the FIFA community
or the car, the car community on Facebook.
on like YouTube,
2002 memes.
It's just like...
Troll faces and epic balance.
And it's just like...
Oh, Jesus.
I don't know how.
How they've continued.
You've got to think about who
these people are targeting there
because I mean, we're veterans in the meme.
We're in the like post-irony.
We can't admit to liking anything
because we're scared that we'll get lambasted for it.
I'm not that.
I will like dark-off.
I'm saying as a rule,
where the sit-back and make...
make fun of everything, kind of wave.
I'm not a part of that.
I'm not.
Let me tell you, Red Dead,
best game I've ever played,
haven't even played it yet.
There you go.
Well, no, because you think,
in terms of us as a group
in terms of the memes,
we're fucking years ahead.
They're fucking pig shit on its own balls,
which the commentary community found.
We were laughing about seven or years ago.
Just for context,
for an explanation,
and James somehow found a picture
of a pig with ball
so swollen that it had done a shit
and the shit gloriously rested
between the massive swel and balls.
They must have seen it. It was on some of the community stuff.
Yeah, I'm sure. It just rested
perfectly, like a little bit away from
the asshole. Just perfectly
placed. I just like the idea
of some farmer. I'm just seeing
that, I'm finding it's so funny that they get out of their
phone and take a picture.
That would have been like before
camera phones. Like, we're a
They've got their digital camera.
Gary, get the camera.
A fucking pig shit he did on his room boots.
Yeah, I don't know.
Who out of the four in JAR?
Oh yeah, Ruben's at uni, by the way.
He's gone back to you.
If you're wondering.
Who in the four in JAR is, where do they lie in terms of their meme coverage?
I'd say I'm the most removed.
I'm the second most, and then it's Ruben.
because Ruben spends all his time on Instagram
so he does...
I feel like Ruben's the most educated
in the meme
in terms of that kind of thing
followed by you, Jim.
Yeah, I know more than me, James, so...
I dropped off with...
Because I mean, Instagram,
it's strange, Instagram is owned by Facebook
but they have memes.
Because the algorithm
is slightly more intelligent
to kind of learn
and show you things.
That's the thing.
I see indie memes.
all of my recommended stuff
is pure indie memes
oh shit
rock star just
Instagramed a picture of a cat
that's hunted and killed a bird
in Red Dead
it's impressive stuff
how mental is that
anyway what was I saying
I get indie memes
that's where I get the creepy
SpongeBob outfit dude
like looking through a
bathroom and again
you get a golden one
exactly like the Anakin one
that I've been
I was okay I'm not
as big a fan as you are, but
do you want to find a picture of it and explain that
before... The best
thing you've ever shown me off Instagram is
I mentioned it on the jar
Twitter. The dwarf guy.
It's this like dwarf guy who
I mean, just go to the jar
Twitter and find this video that I retweeted.
It's just the most bizarre fucking video
to that song.
Also, what are they called James? That Japanese
English band? Oh, Kelo
Kelo Bonito. Yeah, then.
Flamingo
That video tickles me every time
I can't
Can't help it
Like when I look up my Instagram
Because that's where I get memes
I don't have that many memes
I don't have memes at all on there
Mine are all like Lego memes
And stuff like that
Mine's all cars
I don't really look at Instagram
No for some reason I don't know how this happened
My Instagram is just washer
I have washing memes
I don't know what I like to get weird Russian memes.
It's all I get now.
I don't know why.
It's not just what you like, is it?
It's what you look at as well.
Well yeah, by looking you have to...
Jim.
Jim, can you find this Star Wars one and to describe it to the audience so we can end this segment because...
I'll see this thing.
No, Jim.
Let me see it.
I need to see this meme.
is someone
I hate that video
no you can't watch videos on a podcast
and not share it with the people watching and listening
it's a chubby Asian dude
with his feet behind his head
with a glass of water or something
placed on his ass
and he like
pulls a sheet from underneath it
a drone pulls it
yeah a drone pulls it that's right
just mean stuff I can't keep
up I'm not in the meme sphere anymore but there's a difference between like a
one-off funny video and an actual meme that's read and shared no but the
anything can become that and yet anything's a meme at this point and any tiny
Instagrammer that post shit like that that they've just found their thing can
spiral and snowball into this yeah but there's the you can't really do
much with that video of that guy no with a drone
but um the that Kanye song that you love oh yeah god of course that's a that's big
meme but I haven't seen any meme I feel like that's one of the bigger sort of more
mainstream memes no it's very mainstream like um James Corden so I feel like we
mentioned that before yeah one of the worst videos I've seen ever speaking of some of the
worst videos I've seen we found these please the worst video on YouTube as we were eating
dinner earlier it was called something like superhero roundup super villain roundup super
super villain mega ball stadium yeah and what it was was like a 22 minute video animation
where it's just non-stop character character like super famous supervillains so we're
talking the godfather we're talking megatron we're talking every marvel villain every
DC villain.
Star Wars.
Alien.
Everything in pop culture.
Everything on like the top level of pop culture that everyone would know.
Imagine all of those characters kind of traced, poorly traced and then kind of loosely animated.
And just like fighting and killing each other for 22 minutes.
Not just fighting though.
Like it's meant to be funny.
Yeah, supposed to be like a play on.
And, yeah.
Not to hate on how it.
it should have ended but how it should have ended is fucking dog shit and it reminded me of the
worst of how it should have ended it was way worse than how it should have ended and how it should
have ended is fucking dog shit i need to just put that out there yeah that's that might be my
least favorite youtube channel that exists really i haven't seen any of their videos in ages i don't
think i've ever sat through a full one of their vids i have many times because they just blow me away
each time how can you be this lazy to write the most obvious thing no because they just see what
people are saying in the zeitgeist around a movie and then they just make jokes about it
what's the fucking point everyone's already making your joke because that's what's that's what sells
on youtube you know they just do some shit animation for it and there we go it's out god you know
what all the jokes going to be before going in like say it's bbs it's going to be there'll be a joke
about martha for sure there'll be a joke about the guy at the end you know the squib
A lot of men, I hate talking about that film.
Squibia.
Speaking of YouTube, what do you guys think of this H3, H3 drama that's going on?
Back to the point, I have no idea.
That's how far I'm away from this.
It's pretty simple, though.
H3 didn't upload to their main channel for ages.
Then they upload a video, and it's like an ad video for an app that they had designed.
And then their community got angry.
I can sort of understand that.
I mean, you can't sort of radically change what you're doing on YouTube
and expect everyone to just follow you.
If people hit that subscribe button for the videos they were getting at the time, right?
Yeah.
So if you just stop doing that and then only do podcasts,
what do you expect from people?
What I think, the podcast channel is separate, and that's doing very well on its own.
Yeah, and they've been doing that, and so they haven't been uploading on their channel in forever.
Yeah.
Their main channel.
Yeah.
So, like, I don't really know.
It just, I just feel like the easy solution is just do what Idubs does, just upload very infrequently, rarely, when he has, like, an idea for something.
Yeah.
Just put that on H3 while the podcast is the consistent.
Maybe that's what they are doing.
But, I mean, what I think.
think the way people feel is that everything is going into the podcast and they've just dropped
the uh the vibe i got from their kind of apology video is that they're kind of burnt out or
don't know what to do with that i've sensed that for quite a while yeah yeah you can't you can't
constantly make that type of content that they have like made the kind of reaction sort of
no like even the vape like vape nation video whatever is they can't just constantly make stuff
like that because it loses what it is
it becomes like
quite average
I don't know it's a tricky one
I understand whether
and I'm not saying like either side is right
I'm just saying
that's where the fans will be coming from
yeah for sure
yeah
it's just like a
they just need to get on that
Keemstar YouTube grind
yeah man
just fuck like doing what you want
do what
But Keemstar is in a place for his money.
Keemstar loves it because he loves what he does.
He's so passionate about it.
And it's like the easiest content to make.
It's like a circle though.
He's passionate about this thing.
But it gets some loads of money, which he's passionate about.
So he's passionate about doing the thing.
But it's not so much workload that it's like, or creative.
Like creatively exhausting in any way.
No.
So it's just reporting and being energetic.
characterful about it.
They have like completely faded
out my life.
All of them.
Kame Star, all of that group, I just don't hear anything about.
I don't know what's going on.
I just, I don't even care.
It's like they don't even, they boardline don't even exist.
I don't even know about them anymore.
I don't think about them.
It's still pretty prolific.
They don't even, they don't exist.
James doesn't know about them.
They just not on it anymore.
Who the fuck's Keemstar?
And you know what?
My life's better because of it.
keemstar is a necessary evil i know and he's a good necessary evil but i don't give a
fuck what he says yeah it's tricky once you get into like years and years and years making
content you see it with so many youtubeers yeah you can't it's not something that can last
forever how many these big youtubeers are not wound anymore yeah boyfriend versus girlfriend
they're fucking gone recently they've they've made they ruin the whole life as well uh
vlogging every day.
That really good YouTube channel
what I forgot the name of?
Do you remember that
like Russian channel that we did something
with guns and blowing stuff up
and everyone thought he died?
FPS Russia?
Yeah.
The one who,
the guy who was called,
he wasn't actually Russian.
He was fake denied
and then he like killed,
he's like executed one of his
producers and has disappeared.
Executed.
I thought he was revealed
was like found it in a field
like a fucking headshot.
I thought it was revealed
that that was BS though or something.
Something happened like that.
What?
We can let the Jarkast people leave us in the comments.
No, it was something like, one of his producers was killed, and it looked dodgy, and, like,
FPS Russia, like, disappeared.
To Russia.
He was a fucking real life.
He was a Russian spy the whole time.
He was fucking KGB all along.
Anyway, we'll be back after these messages with the Reddit questions.
Blub.
So, this is the second part of the show, where we answer questions from the lovely Jarlene community.
see out there. If you want to leave your own questions, head over to the
JAR Media Reddit page where there is
a thread pinned at the top.
Sweet as fuck, bro. Are we ready guys for some
I'm ready? I don't know about this.
Don't touch my glasses, Jim.
They're nice and Matt.
Oh, okay. Okay, they're fine.
Did you really fucking do that?
Alex, could you pick them up for me, please?
Because this person doesn't respect
my money and me spending
my money on incredibly
expensive fucking glasses.
Oh, flexing on them.
Gucci gang.
bitch.
Wow.
They're just rebounds
that I got a discount
so.
Back on the rocks.
Okay.
It's a bit
cringy,
but it makes sense.
It's a Eurobeat song
but it's like
back on the rocks
it means you can always
go back to the shitty
place you were before.
Like,
you've got to be on that grind
every day.
That's why I've called it on that.
Makes me think of Fast and Furious
or something.
Back on that grind
and we're going to watch
too fast and furious.
I don't watch,
Tokyo Drive.
Oh, Tokyo Drift?
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Dad, I do me living now.
When you live in Tokyo.
Yeah.
Our first question is from deludry, who says,
If someone kidnapped all of the jar pets and would only give them back if you completed these following tasks, then would you do it?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
James, you have to build the tank in one sitting.
Okay, if I have everything I needed, then yes.
It might not be the best, but I'd advise you.
can smash that thing up okay my one is you have to play destiny one and two plus
all the expansions I assume again yes argue's not well damn son yeah sorry I
sorry I know he's taking my baby for me um Jim to get Billy back you could not
watch Mad Max ever again oh oh he then the new one will come out in yeah doesn't
mean I can't watch any it's Mad Max Fury Road or just Mad Max one
or any Mad Max?
I'm going to adjust it and say
anything to do with Mad Max ever again.
Dude, that's fucked.
Don't even...
No, okay, Billy's gone.
Billy's incredible, though.
Billy's worth it.
I'll just get another black group.
And Rubin's one, we can answer for him,
was you can't go to Norway.
He doesn't have any pets,
so it doesn't make any difference to him.
He doesn't have any pets?
Well, like, his parents have, like, cats or whatever,
but he doesn't have, like, his defining creature.
Well, what's that thing over there?
Oh, God damn, son.
My apologies.
I didn't know what you pointed at.
It's the fucking rat that pokes him.
Abortion with legs asks.
You didn't ask Ruben's final question.
Yeah, I did. I said...
You didn't have to go to Norway.
Oh, right.
And then I said, he doesn't need to even answer
because he didn't have a pet, so...
He doesn't really need to go to nowhere.
Anyway, abortion with wings says...
Sorry, abortion with legs says,
what was your worst childhood memory?
I've got a few, almost drowning, running into a wall, getting attacked by a cat,
crashing my bike because I was doing a speed wiggle too fast.
One of those for it for?
Jane's got quite a good collection.
I remember, um, no, that's too lame.
Um, I remember,
you know like a raised bit
you know a raised bit
a raised bit I was walking on a raised bit
and it was curb yeah
oh my god not a curb but it went curb
it's by Sainsbury's curb
bit
road correct and I'm on raised
so a wall it's like a mini wall
and oh yeah I think I know you about it's hell
they have metal poles near them
I think I was in year 6 at the time so
however
how...
Ten?
How old you are at that
in that year.
So I fell over
my...
The corner of the raised bit
concrete
I slammed onto my lip
Dude
And it split open
blood everywhere
I'm like screaming
Um
That one wasn't even my fault
There was nothing to do with me
I was I was filtering through ones
Because I don't think anybody wants to hear
Stories about how cruel you are
So I chose this one
But I slam my lip
And I just remember
The worst part of it was
After I was done like crying at stuff
I said to my mum
Am I going to get the day off school tomorrow
And she was like, no
I was like
So that was all for nothing then
Yeah
That's fucked up
That is a fucked up story
I've thought of one now
What
It's pretty lame
in the back of the car
must have been going somewhere
or some kind of long journey and had a pillow
had a pillow with me
a feather pillow
do you know this
a feather a pillow
stuffed with feathers
a goose pillow a goose feather pillow
one of the feathers
came out of the pillow and got
it went at my mouth
and got stuck in
back of my throat and it was like it was just stuck there and it was horrible
feeling it was only a feather like inch or too big like dive in my pillow
like that fucking big no no no it's just perfectly caught in the back of my
throat so whenever it was like anything was happening I could feel it and I
thought this is like my life is over because it's gonna be because it felt
horrible to breathe because it tickled and it made you
feel like you're always going to be sick and I thought I was going to be sick.
So I was really stressfully just going,
oh.
Trying to get rid of it.
How did you get rid of it?
I think like an hour later, I think I asked for some water or something and gradually got
rid of it or I just threw up.
If it's got the spiky ends, like the long ones, I could really like kind of cut your throat.
I couldn't get caught in your throat though because it's so fucking massive.
But they're always a little bit spiky.
That's how they get out of the pillow in the first place.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's one of my worst memories for sure.
I remember one of my memories.
This wasn't even a young one.
We were in the old house, Oxford.
We're in your womb and we're playing something.
And I don't know.
I ate something.
I think it was jaffa cakes.
I had the idea to eat like five jaffa cakes at once.
Or something.
So I stuck them all in my mouth and I just started choking on them.
And you guys were in the womb.
I was like fucking suffocating.
Really?
Do you not remember?
I can...
I was just like...
Really?
And then I like stood up and just like...
I actually don't remember this at all.
That's the one to the bathroom and drink water because I actually was fucking dying.
I could not fucking mean.
I must have just assumed, oh James is just doing that shit again.
No, I was straight up fucking suffocating and you guys like did nothing and I was like...
Because I thought you were just joking.
I...
Yeah, but what would you do if I started?
doing that right now.
I'd be like, Jim,
well, the fuck,
because you can see it.
But then what?
Fucking.
Exactly, you have no idea what to do.
So it's best if you don't actually try and do anything.
Well, that's actually suffocated.
Like, I dropped on the floor and I'm just like,
well, then that's like a cool ambulance scenario.
Call the ambulance, strange will be fine until they get here.
Yeah, I remember that.
No, I remember that because it, like,
fucking, like, I had a sore throat for weeks
because it got so jammed up.
Really?
What the fuck?
I just don't remember that at all.
I did.
Because then I was just like, my friends almost let me die.
That's what I said, my name.
Whoa.
But it was really bad.
How would we never mention that until now?
Yeah.
I did at the time.
No, no, literally.
When I said it to you like, the next day you're like, change your bullshit and that did not happen.
Which you did a lot at that time, but I joke, I shit you not.
I always suffocated.
It's messed up, man.
Yeah.
Messed up.
Don't suffocate.
Ollyhollick says thoughts on K-pop music and the fan base built around it.
Dog shit.
K-pop, um, uh,
Next.
Well, the fan- You can't complain about the K-pop fandom and not complain about everyone else.
All the other fandoms.
Like the fucking B-N-H-A, which is an anime community, is like 10 times worse in K-pop.
I'm really not familiar with anything in K-pop because I think it's fucking dog shit.
music is dog shit the music is designed to be dog shit it is no it's the truth the the
the people writing the music are completely separate from the stars i mean no it's like uh
it is highly it's it's like you know the worst of our pop it doesn't even scrape this
the surface of our pop manufactured kind of celebrity it's beyond manufactured no yeah you just
There's no, these poor girls that are being forced to...
You're the guys as well, like, live...
Well, guys and girls, but I mean, they're forced to be on a...
Or have a ridiculous weight, so they're all, like, anorexic.
Unbelievably skinny, yeah.
Yeah.
And they're long work now, it's because they're, like, fucking...
They're work to death.
They can't have any personal life, and they don't even get most of the money.
No.
No, it's the same with, like, Japan.
It's like, the, the music.
isn't created by them. It's created by people
in suits and buildings who are making it
so it can be the most successful money
making thing possible. And that's the whole thing
and it's disgusting and people
eat it up. They fucking love it. It's like the stuff that happens in Japan.
It's the epitome of being
a sheep
of just doing what you're told by
people that have more money than you.
And it's fucking pathetic that anyone likes it.
Nobody like generally fucks up their lives
because...
It's fucked up, man.
If they're the young ones and they get into the group like 16, 15, like some of them are,
they don't get education because they're fucking grinding by people.
So they, when their fame ends, which it does, because it's a temporary thing.
Yeah, they're just left to rot in a hole.
Yeah, they're put in a fucking bin.
Porn industry you go.
It's all you're good for us.
It's fucking disgusting.
But then all of these fandoms, they idolize them like in saying.
They don't realize that these people's lives are fucked.
And they're just like, oh my God, this person just fucking licked an ice cream.
It's like
They need to realise that it's fucked up
But yeah
I've got some K-pop songs on my phone
I listened to it completely
No, wait
You don't listen to it ironically
When I mean you're giving the money
I'm gonna fucking glock you in the name
When I'm in traffic like during summer
In the windows are down
I'll play K-pop just to be a dick
So if only walks fast
I see my loud car and then K-pop and it's just like
You should play J-pop out of your car
I do
I listen to that non-Ironically
Echka Oster says
I've been re-listening to old episodes
of the Jarkas recently
and among older things
it was interesting to hear
sorry other things
it was interesting to hear
your predictions for the future of the show
for example you joked about having chairs
but you have couches now
have you ever imagined
you'd be at this point you are now
with the show
and more importantly
what are your predictions for
the future of the show another year or two
from now. Well, to be honest. I'm surprised we got past the floor
to this. Someone replied to it saying
in one of the old cast Alex said
that we need a dog on the cast.
And now we've got two
dogs in the jar family. Well, it's weird
because it's like we started on the literal floor
and it could only get better and we knew that.
But it's like it's surprising... It was part of the strategy almost.
It's surprising it got better because
it was so awful that it's just surprising we didn't
give up.
we had how many mics too we had more on the early days of one yeah yeah for how long
it's it was like that's how bad it was sitting on fucking blow up things in a tiny no you
weren't even sitting on anything you were on the floor like one of the early episodes we
were all laying with our backs and now you know we actually it's quite sure though
it's a good sign of like progression when we've gone from that to actual shit chairs
new setup.
It's funny, there are like distinct stages of the butterfly, yeah.
So where's it gonna go from here?
I don't know where it can, yeah.
The sky's the limit, boys.
We do it with the background of New York.
Yeah.
And we have CG Spider-Man swinging around.
Well, where are we going from here, boys?
An Iron Man.
What?
I mean, how can this improve?
Am I right?
Are we actually going to go to being in a cave?
We go backwards on here.
That's a future we just...
No, that's forwards.
No, no, I know where we're going.
We've already been in a cave.
We're just going to go to filming the jarcast in IKEA,
just sitting on some sofas and...
Different sofas every episode.
Yeah.
We should do a jarcast on the road or in their car.
We should get that IKEA dude that noticed us.
Oh yeah.
It was called Ben, wasn't it?
Something like that.
IKEA Ben.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, me and Jim didn't see him.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah, hook us up.
So we've got an inside man.
He helps us set up...
He can sneak us in at night and we can all think that nobody's run.
Thanks in advance, Ben.
Dick the Head says,
What conspiracy theory do you believe is real or at least somewhat true?
Thank you, Jarlongs.
I've got one.
It's just a movie one, though.
Oh, what?
What, the moon?
The lunar moon?
No, no, it's the Jajabinks one.
I'm a believer.
I'm a believer that Jar Jar Binks was originally like a Sith or something
I'm a believer
There are too many weird things in the Phantom Manus
It's so weird that the animators like
It's not an actor just doing a weird thing because it has to be
Every frame has to be animated by someone
Why would they put these weird details in?
Where's my tint for?
But that's not conspiracy theory that's not just a theory
That's not like life-changing that's just
George O'Binks
None of them had life-changing
Yeah, 9-11
is straight up life-changing
Alex.
Yeah, that's quite a big deal.
No, but the conspiracy theories.
Yeah, I've, okay, let's be real.
What difference does it make?
Okay, you've got concrete proof
that this conspiracy theory is true.
What the facts are you going to change?
So you wouldn't feel any different if Bush,
if you knew for a fact,
Bush did 9-11?
But I will never know for a fact because...
Well, it's impossible.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But doesn't it ever just gnaw at you?
one that's how i find
that's how they all get you
how do you think Alex Jones like
has gone on for as long as he hang
because he's a fucking turning the frogs gay
he targets that small doubt
that small niggling doubt people have
and some people are more susceptible to that doubt
he called Hillary Clinton
an intergalactic's blood-sucking
child kidnapping vampire
come on we can't use him
as an example he can use him as an example
he did this shit
there are different levels
of like what people believe.
Okay, give me an example of a conspiracy theory that you guys are down.
Okay, no.
Okay.
I find JFK very sketchy.
His assassination.
I'm not saying like these, I just take everything for face value.
I just say, what am I supposed to?
I don't necessarily think jumping to popular conspiracy theories is necessarily the best way to go about it.
Well, I think, okay, in a broad way, every major event, there's more to it.
Yeah.
Guaranteed there's something going on.
on because you can't think governments are so powerful there's something and the whole
the history's written by the winners thing as well well yes you don't know like just little
details here and there but the devil was in the details so these all these icons from
important figures of history they might not have been exactly who they've been
depicted as and all these little bits and pieces what would you doubt about the JFK
JFK one
the person that killed him
he was like an American
wasn't he though
like it's an American
yeah but
you know like
he was immediately killed
before he could
trial
yeah
but I heard that some of it
like he was like
spent a lot of time
in Russia or something
or something like that
I don't know
but the thing is
what's sketchy about it to me
is that
some
some dude
kills JFK
the police get him
and then he's immediately killed
so oh he did it we can't prove it
but that's our scapegoat
I've actually just searched
a list of the ten conspiracy theories
most prevalent in America
number five is the JFK assassination
51% of Americans believe that there was a conspiracy
behind the assassination
51 in a large survey in 2013
what year did he die get assassinated
63 was that
before
after the Cold War?
Or drawing?
It was...
After?
Sort of after?
The Cold War didn't really have like an end, did it?
No.
So then obviously there'd be a bit of...
The Cold War was so fucking deep and shit.
It's like...
Yeah.
Yeah, the lack of a clear satisfying explanation
for who was really behind it, I guess, is the main one behind that.
Let's go through some of these other ones.
Let's see what you think.
On 9-11's obviously.
Number one, the Illuminati.
The Secret Group controlling the...
a world.
Is that one too far?
Illuminati.
Sort of.
Well, let's...
It is too far,
because, like...
That's like, um, Marvel kind of shit.
Well, you know, um, Deus X.
Yeah.
Like, the Illuminati are just straight up in that game.
Well, yeah, they're the people like,
who can plant, like, the bugs in, like, the...
Yeah, it's, like, pure fiction.
So...
Well, I think what I would say is not that the Unite is real,
but it's a case of the 1% help the 1%
But that's an economy thing
That's just like business
I wouldn't say that
Yeah, it depends where
What you mean by that
Yeah
Yeah, I don't know
Then what's the West
Number two
President Obama wasn't born in the US
And maybe a secret Muslim
No
No sense at all
That's like a you know
Go to the like some hick
You know pro
Yeah
Why
Trump actually
But like anything that he did
how does him being a Muslim effect
The theory was that Barack Obama
was originally born in Kenya
For someone he's born in
Kenya is a pretty perfect
American accent
Yeah
Like, spot
That's these conspiracy theories
72% of Republicans in 2016
Still expressed skepticism
About the president's place of birth
Okay
Number three was the attacks on 9-11
Were an inside job
I feel like that's
That's the biggest.
It's got to be the biggest conspiracy theory.
It's been made fun of now.
And...
Okay.
I've watched a lot of stuff relating to 9-11.
And I'm not going to talk about the trade center buildings.
The only thing that I'm a bit funny on is the plane that flew into the Pentagon.
Because I'm pretty sure somewhere the government said it was a Boeing to the same plane.
But like the damage to the building was nowhere near.
And the only engine they found in the record was from like a bi-reiber.
I'm not even a
jumbo jet
Here's my thing about the
like 9-11's conspiracies thing
I feel like people give way too much credit
to the government
of being capable of being able to pull off
these immensely elaborate schemes
that they seem to be
like we're talking about
I don't know much about living in the US
or that but applying it to
our government and how like a net they are
like just general things
and how everything they run
is like full of all this
pointless layers of bureaucracy
and like nothing can change or ever get done
and I'm supposed to believe that they are capable
of being able to orchestrate
these immensely elaborate
joker level
what if the Illuminati does exist then?
The thing with...
Then that's when you've got to start thinking.
The thing with 9-11 is it's like
you can't believe they planned it all.
Like, one of the things that was explained in why it happened is the fact that the people, the terrorists, they, like, I think it was the CIA, knew they were in the country, but didn't communicate with any of the other people to stop them.
Yeah.
Like, if you were to be a conspiracy theorist and say that they did it, it would make sense that the CIA wouldn't tell anyone to make sure they did bomb the trade.
But do you think it's more likely that it's ineptitude or some kind of secret conspiracy?
I'd say it's ineptitude.
well yeah that's more likely especially like that there wasn't a concern for that sort of attack up until that point
and from my understanding they were like so late to even reacting to it so it just completely spired out of control
like what what country did america invade off that was it afghanistan or iwack
i know because we were just kids iwack i'm pretty sure but it's like this whole thing of massive incident happens
bin Laden is you know the fault
instantly invade a country that has oil
yeah that it's just like
it's America and you know for a fact
when they can get oil they invade countries
so in a sense of watchman level scheme
where it's like it's like it would be a good way
to get the general public on your side
like they did this to one of the
our most beloved cities
I don't yeah I do again I don't think that
there's definitely loads of
fishy weird like information that is not crystal clear about it you know and that kind of thing um
but if you just break it down to the very simple basic of ridiculous tragedy that changed the
face of the earth no matter who orchestrated it happened americans being incredibly patriotic
government was like we should do this yeah so obviously the people can be like yeah
they did this so we need to do this yeah depends what part you focus on like I don't know how
I'd feel about if I was a soldier and that was supposed to be my main motivation for doing shady kind of things or more the the more the thing I focus on more is the like tragedy of the like the loss of life from that.
Well yeah and the impact it had on that city yeah but then there's just stuff like the WMDs in Iran or something where it's just like there was none but the go the US government like yeah there is it's like no matter what there's dodgy shit.
everywhere.
No matter what, there's always something wrong.
Apparently it was proven that there was reason to believe that they had weapons of mass
destruction and the government wasn't just lying about that.
There was, yeah.
I know, yeah, there's...
Like recently, not like recent, recent, but this year or last year, that came out.
What else is on the list?
What really makes it spiral out of control is that it's all like secret information and
when there's secrets, it just leads to guessing and then the guesses just get out of
control and people love the secrecy and the doubt of it all.
I feel like as well with getting your head around such an atrocious act like 9-11
and to think it was just some people wanting to go to Valhalla and you want it to mean more
than that.
Yeah.
This just waste of life, all that lives.
Maybe that is an aspect to it as well.
Yeah.
We never know.
Unless there's some ridiculous expose
Or some shit that happens in our lifetime
We'll see
So what else is like this one
We'll probably will be in agreement on
Lizard people, aka reptilians, are running the world
This is a very sci-fi Hollywood variation
On secret groups controlling us
It's kind of the same idea as the Illuminati thing
That's straight up Alex Jones
That is
What they believe is that the top echelon of our government
is actually controlled by shape-shifting reptilian aliens
who have been lauding power over humans
to make them into mindless slaves.
Then it's the JFK.
But what even suggests that?
Dude, I don't know.
The fact that you can't just prove it.
It's that thing.
That isn't a conspiracy theory to me.
That's a fucking fever dream.
Aliens have contacted us or are contacting us.
What about that one?
A variety of events come under the rubric of beliefs in alien contact among these
mysteries like the alleged 1947 crash of a flying saucer in Roswell.
The ensuing government cover-up of that incident supposedly links to Area 51.
Blah, blah, blah.
Okay. Area 51.
It's just a secret base for America to test secret weapons.
that's not anything
conspiracy
have aliens come in contact with humans
and it's been hidden
through all
humanity
well
I think highly doubt it
there is life
it's dumb to not think
the amount of planets there are
there's life
even if
they did contact us
how can a government
control that
if aliens
went down somewhere
and talk to someone, how can the government know
and be able to control that so everyone doesn't know?
If for a second, there was a glimpse of it
in how we are now, the world would know
because media.
Yeah, now, the thing that would be confusing to me
is, okay, sure, maybe an alien craft crash landed
on planet Earth, right?
Let's say that happened.
For that to have happened,
there would have to be some species out there
capable with the technology with the entire setup to be able to be able to even do that in the
first place and a being of that intelligence why would they just allow that to happen and have
no kind of response to it or why would they just leave it that doesn't make sense to me
they'd recover it instantly and why would why would one just clash if their technology is that
advanced
how would that
you know like how would they even crash
or why would that happen
you know
like it just seems
it seems very like
science if you think for example
when like
when there's secret missions
and they have to destroy the property
that's done
they destroy anything that's left
why would an hyper advanced race
not clean up something that's happened
when it could completely change our world
that stuff we've gone in an instant
so there's not
the government uncovering anything up
they would have been kind of covering up like
like when was this was what thing happened
what age what year
1960s or something
no way before then
47
so I think 47 that's when they were testing a lot of
borderline that's the early jet engine stuff
so it can make sense why America
might want to keep that under closed doors
so it makes me
Experimental playing the quashed.
Boom.
We've only got a minute left here, but there are still loads more of these.
What's the call?
We can keep going.
We don't have to be on an hour.
Should we keep doing them?
Yeah.
Some of these are quite good and I want to hear what you guys think of them.
You got on.
Keep going.
Um, so continuing on these conspiracy theories.
Um, of course, the moon landing.
The moon landing was faked.
Usually by, as theorized it was Stanley Kubrick who directed the...
I that that theory is stupid why is that because you hire a Hollywood actor to film a director sorry to to film this and just expect him to never say anything mm-hmm like if if you signed up to something like that on your deathbed you'd have to tell someone we'll leave a clue somewhere or yeah well people people
People think there's clues in the shining.
Yeah, and that's one of the theories
that that's what the whole film is about, don't it?
Yeah.
Like the little kids got the spaceship.
Mm-hmm.
And something to do with the shape of the famous carpet.
It's something spacey.
I know.
I know they do it so it makes them look like they've out-achieved the USSR.
Yeah.
That's it, but it's just like...
What?
So the evidence is the flag appearing to move.
Which shouldn't happen because there's wind in space.
No wind, sorry.
Because there's no wind in space.
This was disproved by pointing out that the flag only appears to move during the moment of unfurling,
something which would happen even without wind.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
No need to overthink that one.
the theory also says that only the first moon landing is fake
and the ones after that were real
okay
they just send they just send a walk it into
space and that's it that's it boom done
like nah I can't believe that
number eight
the FDA is withholding the cure for cancer
why this idea maintains that the FDA and big farmer figured out how to cure cancer a while back
but are not making the medicine available while big farmer has not made itself for many friends
amongst the public there is no evidence that such a vast conspiracy as possible as it
require the participation of thousands if not millions of people in both for profit and non-profit
it makes more it makes more sense that selling the cure would actually make more money
That's what I was immediately went through my head
You could market it to that
That could be a huge
Huge sales thing
Oh yeah
Country should lap that shit up
Yeah
But even then like
If it was that easy to
Come up with the cure for cancer
Like why wouldn't our country do it
Yeah what about all the people that
If it took that many people to find it
Chances are
Someone in their families
Or someone they knew
will develop cancer or have cancer
and what would they just
secretly cure them
or what
yeah I don't know about that one
it's cancer's too big
and it's just like the what cancer is it's
we do we do not have the technology
to even start
because it's not nice at all
it's quite complicated
I can't believe that
chem trails do you know this one
well I've seen like a meme
not a meme video but like on Instagram
I'm sure that the
Plains went over cam trails and then clouds appeared or like clouds are after.
The idea says that the trails you can spot in the sky behind planes are actually chem trails.
Some kind of chemicals sprayed by the government to control the population.
Of course the trails are just contrails created by the combination of vapor from the planes engine combined with the loo.
This is what I'm saying about this like doubt and as soon as one person says it, people are like, oh shit.
No, but that's like, there's no.
doubt in my head with that one. No, but think about it, people of a certain level of like
intelligence and critical thinking, they might think, oh shit, I've never thought about that.
What if it actually is the planes controlling me? And I've never questioned it because the planes
told me to think that. If they were controlling us, how would we even be able to think
that was a possibility? Like, if we're being controlled by fucking plane. Plain people,
and throw planes.
But it's like how would all of these private
like
airplane companies have
fucking chemicals in passenger planes
Yeah
It's like if you not notice
I can remember recently because it was really nice to do
Clear Sky, two planes
One really higher
Chem trails, the other one below it not
Simple fucking altitude
That's why one of them has one of them doesn't
Do you like how you can sort of layer
the conspiracy thing is that
That could be the lizard people doing that
That could be the lizard people
Maybe they're not shape shifters
But they're sending out these chemicals from the planes
To keep their identity
So you see them as human
But they're actually lizards just walking around
And they are the Illuminati's, the littered people
Yeah
Why do you think these planes
Why do you think the trade centres
Knocked down?
Because it wasn't the jet fuels
The chem trails who were burning the steel beams
That's why it collapsed
Fucking push them into one
Make everyone crazy
You can probably link all
of them don't don't start Alex don't why was JFK kill wait hang on we there's one
there's one more there's one more then we'll link them all and then finish this of
course we need to make like one of those boards yeah link them more the holocaust did not
happen that's a that's a prevalent one there are people out there who don't believe in in
that there's literally you can go to the play the fucking concentration camps like
well apparently only about 54% of the world's population has heard of the holocaust according to a large 100 country survey by the anti-deformation league and only a third of those who've heard of it believe the holocaust is portrayed correctly given political realities it's not a surprise that only 8% of responders in the middle east heard of the holocaust and believed his description was true
8%
You see
But then we did just criticize the
History is written by the winner saying
I was just about to say that
Like that's the only reason that
It causes a bit of doubt in my head
Because the atrocities that everyone committed in World War II
Just the horrible shit that went down
That period of time
Like of course we'd
If that weren't to have happened
we'd want to
make the make...
As our side, we'd want to make it clear
that we were doing the right thing
against bad people.
Yeah.
Well, if you think about it...
Of course, you want to teach people
that, like,
oh, we had no choice to do all these things
because look what they were doing.
Yeah, but I mean, the thing is,
it's not like Germany says,
that didn't happen.
Yeah.
Because, like, World War II happened
over nothing.
Yeah.
Like, I remember the day I learned
about why World War II
started and it was just like what? World
1 sorry
the
the trigger for World War 1 was fucking stupid
mm-hmm
that was happened because there was a
political like issues before that happened
there was like people like getting
frictiony well yeah
World War 1 was just like
bubbles
it was it was empires like
having issues
yeah like what everyone just getting a little bit scared of each other
and then
And then, yeah, one gunshot, and it all just fucking kicks off.
What I can think is that if you consider all of the, the Axis, yeah, she had Japan, America, not America, Germany.
Japan, the big thing they have was, like, the, uh, the genocide of, like, Chinese to slaughter.
The Nazis were, you know, the Holocaust.
They were the bad guys.
We fought them.
But then after that happened.
Russia are the bad guys and then you've got gulags and you've got the same basically the same thing
arguably worse I'm pretty sure but what I can really say is in every war that shit happens
war was disgusting that's what happens yeah I can't I thought the Holocaust did happen I can't
deny that it's just yeah and it's not it's not to the to the degree where we're taught as if
everything that this side did was right morally or anything it's
it's more presented as kind of
factual
yeah
like when you learn
that America
nuked Japan
that's fucking horrendous
because it's I mean
I don't remember that
it was completely necessary
yeah it's one of those
you're damned if you do
you don't
well no do you actually think it was necessary to do
the Japanese were fucking
they were awful at that time
my understanding was
yeah my understanding was that their
their whole
system was built around
never surrendering
yeah never surrender we're the best
we're gonna conquer everyone
because they had done they'd never lost
and so
if they
if America didn't put their foot down
Japan would never have stopped
and that war would have just gone on and on and on
I and they were like
a vicious army as well weren't they
yeah the way they went about
well everything for them was
to forward Japan they were
there were like a colony of bees,
like so just coordinated and on it.
If nukes weren't a thing,
I'd be surprised if we'd have won.
No, I disagree with that
because the whole Japan thing was they were trying to be
the biggest, like, power in the Pacific.
They're the biggest fleet.
And obviously, they attacked Pearl Harbor
to prove a point to America that they're the fucking big dogs.
Then obviously, as America, you know, got more involved,
they were massively bigger than Japan.
Japan were constantly losing their power in the Pacific.
Their fleets were being destroyed.
And it's like, then they did the kamikaze stuff, you know,
getting planes flying into it.
But I think they did that because they didn't have the manpower or skill
to be able to combat America one-on-one.
So it was just like...
Why don't I understand is, why did they even fuck with America?
Why didn't they try and build a bigger army?
Because they had this huge ego.
They thought, we're the best, nothing can top us.
And they poked the bear.
but it's like
when Japan started
losing territory
skilled pilots
because by that time
all the pilots
were like 15 year old kids
16 year olds
people are age
going into planes
fucking flying to aircraft guy
because that's what they could do
and it's at that stage
where I don't think
Newkin was necessary
because they lost so many people
they lost so much skilled people
that if they're at the point where
they're sending 15 year olds
to kill themselves
to destroy countless
American men
you need to
say stop and that's the thing it's just yeah if they were never going to surrender what level
would they've stretched themselves to Japan in that time the country would have just been left
in total like ruin in that time the Japan was just like the emperor emperor that's it
you thought that's that's a ship but then it's like I remember like this this ace of like
Japan he's a he's like a rape of nan kin whatever like deny so it's a bit
but it was saying like the people they didn't
not give a shit about the empire. It's all about they're just
their homeland. They didn't want to kill themselves
for their empire. It's just like, they're just
trying to protect what they have.
But by that time, they had no like skilled labours.
There had no factories. And I think
I heard somewhere that America
decided to do the atomic bomb because they were
scared that if they invaded
the Japanese would be ruthless.
Like just no shit's given. Let's just slaughter
Americans. So that's why they resorted
to nuking as a way to protect
American soldiers
if they were to do a homeland invasion.
was planned. They fully planned to invade the homeland. But then obviously the nuclear bomb was
developed and it's just like we can either invade a country that might just slaughter us brutally,
like kamikaze like dives and all that, or they can nuclear bomb it. And obviously there's
a safer bet. Send a load of troops to invade a country or bomb it in one plane, thousands.
And end their involvement just like that. But the only thing I can go against. Not only though, does it stop Japan? It just
sort of puts everything in a standstill
because it's just like it's the most powerful
thing you can ever, it's the most powerful thing
that's ever been sown ever.
Yeah. But what I don't get
is why did they have to do it to a city
full of civilians?
Nothing army related, just kids and children
wives. Because
the scope of the bomb is like
what would be the point
of them, nuking
a new king. Nuking an army base in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah. No, but
I don't think it's as much of damage it's
cause, it's a psychological. If they wanted
to show power, they didn't have to kill children.
They put it where there's
not a lot, because the fucking empire,
the government's going to see that. But you need to
say like, we're
capable of doing this and
we're willing to do it.
It's like a fucked situation
and I could not press that
button to kill that many people.
I think
two bombs, personally, unnecessary.
One would have done the exact same job.
But I think if they
didn't do it in a city full of people, it would have had the same effect. Because Japan was not
in a situation where they could have, could last any longer. They did it to a fort town where
there was some industry and all of that. Japan would have, would have surrendered. And I fully
believe that because there's no need to kill that many people if you're trying to show power.
When does you ever show power by slaughtering thousands and thousands of people? You don't.
You warn. I think it's a bit, it's like a,
well you started it kind of thing
like we weren't
we were kind of
like they didn't do much
from all one one did they
they were kind of
oh no
I'm pretty sure they were just out of it
until Pearl Harbor
what America
what Japan America
America and World War I yeah
yeah
I'm World War II
my understanding is that
Pole Harbor is what really was like
okay fuck you then
we're just gonna show you
I saw a meme on Instagram
I'm going back to that
of um you know there's the thing
where Patrick and the villain
from Barnacle Boy and Mermaid Man
So Patrick was
The Americans
And the bad guy was the English
And he was like, you're an ally right
And Patrick was, yeah
So when we go to water, you'll help us, yeah?
So Patrick was like, yeah
So we're in this water
Are you going to help us?
And then Patrick said, no, I don't see the reason in that.
I think
Patrick was America.
Yeah, Patrick was America
and the other guy was
England. I think
don't take everything I say as
Stone. It's just like... None of us
like historians. No. Not what any means.
We did no research. I know. I know
the most... I'm just saying
what I think I know.
What I remember from being taught in like...
I know the most about that stuff here
because that's an interest but this is
all like fucking random bits glued together
inside my head. There's not facts so
before the historians get angry at me
just just for loose but like even in that time
America was just like they knew it was
happening and they were building.
But then as soon as those
those Japs fucking
bomb Bel Harbor they were like
every single human being
used to go to a factory and build
tanks and it's just like
let's fuck people up
and that's how that happened.
Yeah, it's just like the don't kick the hornets nest
kind of. America at that time was
stupidly unbelievably patriotic as well
I was just like
I read some stuff or saw some stuff right
to how just the economy in America was at that point
and it was just like as soon as Bellwabah happened
everyone wanted to be in factories
building war machines because it's just like
we need to fuck. They care about their country man
yeah. The thing is
what would have happened if
they'd have never bombed?
Because I mean, Europe was
being fucked by Germany pretty much other than
Russia.
Even then, Russia was as well.
Russia was getting fucked. We were just getting
fucked completely without America.
There's a lot of ways where World War I
World War II would be different. If Hitler didn't
invade Russia
there'd be a big difference because he threw just
people in Washington winter and just killed them.
He never did that, put his forces,
other places, a lot
would have changed. If America didn't get involved,
we wouldn't be the same world.
And America wouldn't have got involved if...
Japan? Japan hadn't... Well, if you think,
think how, like, England,
like, if you think, like, in Asia,
how many, like, there was English, Australians, Canadians.
Not a lot of Americans.
We were fucking shit.
We got fucking captured in thousands
and slaughtered.
There was no... You couldn't compete with the Japanese
in those conditions.
They would have controlled
all of Asia.
Germany would have
controlled most of Europe.
They would have just
had two massive empires
and they would have
fucking controlled the world.
Simple.
If America
never got involved.
But I would have
think in that same
situation
if there was no
Holocaust,
a lot of countries
wouldn't have got involved
in a world or two.
There's no bad guy.
There was no fucking
massive event that we need to stop.
Yeah, it doesn't help,
is it?
It kind of makes them
the villain.
Yeah, but I mean
makes it less gray.
Hitler also
came into it being like
everyone's our enemy
look at what they did to us after World War I
like
so there wasn't really
he was going to pick a fight with someone
there wasn't any other way it could have gone
should not find it frightening how
that's not even been a hundred years since
yeah it's it's disgusting
since an event so
world altering world changing
that could have gone so many numbers of different ways
we could all be Nazis right now
but does it not mean you think
what if something to that kind of scale
yeah
he's just fucked us
what if something of that scale or degree happens
within the next 20 years
something of that immense kind of
the thing is there's that
that quote that would always come up when you died
in call or duty monomorffered to
I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with
but the next war will be fought with sticks and stones
something along those lines
just that like now that nukes have been introduced
the thing after that will end the world
as we know it
is the evolution of like combat
we were sticks stones like gunpowder swords
guns bombs
yeah
Nukes.
But who would want to...
You'd have to just be like
some complete maniac.
Well, that's the idea of, um...
What do you call it?
Nuclear deterrence.
Mm-hmm.
Where, because everyone has one,
no one's gonna use one.
And on the top sheds,
we're like the fucking big dog
when it comes to that shit.
We're fucking up there.
What, the UK?
Yeah, got fucking the sobs.
Always there.
We'll fuck everyone up if they do anything.
We're gonna fuck your shit up.
Fucking, we might be shit,
but we've got...
fucking that. That's the one saving ways.
America are pretty sorted on that front as well, aren't they?
Not with their military kind of output.
They've got...
Their floppy disk, nuclear codes.
They've got good, um, anti-nuclear measures, though.
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know. Well, just some missile that can...
It's, like... I think it's like a vehicle.
Really?
They can, like, lock on to whatever trajectory it's been sent on.
No, well, the...
I've actually...
There's a really interesting video about this, about like, nuclear deterrence.
And it's just like, in the process of a ballistic missile going up,
you have the tune when it takes off till it gets to the upper atmosphere.
That's it.
Because when it gets up there and it starts to point down and, like, let's go.
It's like it travels at such a speed.
Yeah, it's really hard to pinpoint.
It's like stupid, like, so violent damage would be done to the earth
if it was forced to, like, explode that close to.
Yeah.
It would have.
some sort of repercussions the deterrent the well to stop it it's just like they either blur
up before it goes up or when it's mid-flight or when it's when it's got like then there's like
a 20-second gap where there it's just like opening the warheads like if they have something
in space to shoot it they can diffuse it but it's like interesting because I've heard something
where it's like during the Cold War I don't know what president was I'm pretty sure it was
like post-JFK or whatever there was a thing called the Star Wars a real thing where
apparently it's just like America
were like planning, they had this whole
intricate like lie
where they had these like fucking lasers in space
that could shoot down Russian nukes
and it got to the point where apparently
like Russia were trying
so hard to counter
it and gain superiority
that they fucking bankrupted the USSR
that's why the Cold War like ended
that's why the USSR
trying to counter something that didn't exist
and it was the Star Wars it's a real fucking thing
the Cold War was just like
the best poker game ever played
just so many bluffs
over and over and over
and like it's crazy to think that
that that fucking lie
the US government
like perfectly made this lie
they fucking just destroyed the USSR
and that's what fucking like
the Star Wars
so why Star Wars it's called the Star Wars
because that's a real fucking thing
there's so much interesting shit
when you look into the Cold War
so incredible
like Russia had these like
planes on water and shit
like fucking crazy what what i what i don't understand is why everyone turned on russia or russia
turned on everyone after world war two hmm well no i think it wasn't russia it was just
like the west versus communism so north korea well why so so we we hate fascism more than
communism yes so fascism fascism was our target
So once that went away, we turned to Russia?
Yeah.
That's, that was the only end.
Well, I know America fucking hated communism with a Persian.
And after World War II, they felt it was their duty to, like, police the world.
Well, because Russia was getting more powerful.
They were the other big dog, and America had to be like, you know, we got to sort this.
Doesn't make sense.
But it's just like, the Cold War was such a mess.
every war's like just a big cluster fuck
and like
the hard thing about the Cold War is that just like
at that time nobody knew what was happening
yeah it was all just like this shit's happening
now just like get in your bunkers
fuck it's over
granny's theory of what what's
going next is
whoever controls like
technology at the highest level
will somehow be able to reign
supreme so if we get to a point where every utility is controlled by some kind of robotic process or
whatever and if some country has the intelligence or capability of being able to control something like
water electricity yeah things that in countries need to stay well the the problem with that is
that like we don't share um like this area we don't share our water supply with a
an area over there so it's all independent between regions it's all regions and it's like that
idea in watchdogs that everything is under the same operating system like there's a reason we don't
do that and it's to protect against that so i mean if you could stop the water supply to london
which all again wouldn't all be under one thing but if you could do that sure that would be
severe but i mean it wouldn't stop anything really it just makes me wonder
yeah i mean i don't know enough about like technology and shit today i would say that cyber warfare
is the next step because you don't even need to like risk people's lives you fight
and it's super covert yeah yeah we're like we'll never find out about well how long does it
did it take to find out like exactly where that sony hat came from mm-hmm but it's like no i would
agree with your your grandma that that is the next step and that's probably what's gonna happen
Because like we've kind of come to a standstill on the nuke thing
And there's some kind of maniac somehow managed to be held with one
And some super villain scheme and then nukes some planet
And then it starts some whole
Sorry, some country and then it starts some whole
Retaliation thing
But I feel like even if one did go off
Because of some maniac
There will be some kind of process
I don't feel like everyone would start nuking each other
It would have to be one of the superpowers
Would have to like start from one of the superpowers
Like if the UK nuked somewhere
like that's huge
that's coming from
I think in that sense
the major players
and the major players
Russia United States
I don't think countries like India
and you're like
yeah
no I think it's okay
it's like why Russia and America have like a phone line
like if shit happens like that it's just like
we ain't done this
neither really fuck
that that exists that's a real thing
so I don't think anyone else is going to start
nuking it's just like you only nuke of America
told you to nuke is that
kind of level of shit.
They will have secret communication for that stuff.
So I don't think it would.
At what point would I have to get to
to get to that level where
everyone at the top
of all the greatest minds
and the highest positions of power
who have to come together and decide
on the, okay, this country needs to be nuked now.
What state would have to be in?
You know?
Yeah, I don't know what can lead to that anymore.
Yeah, exactly.
Because it's not like we have warfare the way we used to.
And, I mean, like you were saying with cyber warfare, I don't know what can be done with it.
That's the thing, yeah.
It makes me think, sort of in a kind of solid place somewhat in that kind of way.
We have our issues, of course, there's growing pains from all of this crazy technology boom and how many people on the planet and stuff.
Yeah, but I mean
If I don't have to go to a trench
And die horribly
And the worst thing that happens is somebody
Gets to see what I watch
We couldn't I don't feel like we could ever get to a point
Unless there was some total blackout
And all technology was erased
Somehow that we'd ever need to do that again
There are other ways
That stuff war and that that level of combat
Still happens in lesser developed countries
Because they've got to the same level
So that has to happen
but we're never going to see tanks rolling through streets in our age
we're not going to be sitting there in London with fucking guns going off
it's not going to happen not on a war scale anyway
plenty of gun violence and stuff around the world
but yeah to a massive scale it's not going to happen
but what I do know is that apparently like wusha have
that have invested quite heavily into like cyber stuff
like they have top level like IT boys for that
which honestly I prefer because it's like okay
you find out some way to ruin some
you turn my lights off great yeah I'm not dead like I haven't been newt yeah well I mean that's the thing
poisoned if they can like do water stuff or something like that that's when you got to worry
yeah chemical stuff chemical warfare that is and that's fucking crazy well we've got one minute
left here guys um that was a really good discussion actually went on yeah but next week
that was like possibly your best question ever asked yeah yeah
I'd say and that was like that was a serious like actual straight of discussion good
one nice question so we've got to make that thing I said about board that entire
I really want one of those boards mm-hmm we can talk about that but yeah every single
conspiracy fear can be linked to one upper like what about if that is the truth guys
what about that is the the lizard people can be that top Trump yeah they're back they
That's how it relates to jar.
It's all jar.
But hey, thank you for watching, everybody.
Thank you for watching this episode.
Hope you enjoyed this, good discussion, quite a good episode.
Yeah, we'll see you guys on the next episode.
We'll see you on the next Tanguja show.
That was a good episode, I think.
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