JAR Media Posdact - Forbidden Energy - JARCast Episode 243

Episode Date: September 6, 2021

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 02:56 Housekeeping 12:37 Our Initial Thoughts on Donda 26:52 Certified Lover Voy (Drake is a little awful isn't he haha) 39:18 Mid Break - Patreon Segment 47:50 James vs Bear Jim Ting 58:17 The End of IceMan 1:00:34 Gears of War or Gears of Bore? 1:06:50 omg they're talking about halo again 1:14:07 Evangelion Rebellion 1:19:27 Cowboy Bebop Kneechop 1:24:29 Jungle Fungle 1:26:47 Jimmy Neutron Fans UPSET???? 1:27:20 James may be dyspraxic 1:31:56 Jar start a Biker Gang

Me away. How? Don't fucking put me down the second we fucking get going, asshole. That was a proper slap right there. You've done it for the last time, Jamie. Right, we ready? Good afternoon, morning, evening, all night, ladies and gentlemen.

Welcome to this episode of the JAR Media Podcast. I am your host. James and today I'm joined by him And him We hope you are having a lovely, lovely start to the week Should we start this cast by singing a hymn? Donda Donda

Donda Donda Gaming galore Gaming galore gaming galore gaming galore I guess this is episode 243 of the jar

I'm Alex, that's Jim James Damn, I'm not used to not introing it Patrons Shout the Patience, for we get too deep into the show And let the craziness loose This is, we're recording this at 10.15pm So craziness is about it's

The general Woolworth jar is that There's two different ways it can go Okay, so you can go doing it late where there's no energy because we're actually tired or it's late but it has forbidden energy it's got the energy that shouldn't be allowed and you know judging from the intro what do you what do you feel was the energy levels of this cast forbidden it's forbidden I feel I'm on that edge of like tiredness where you have energy forbidden's a good word that um I don't use the word forbidden enough

Yeah it's just not in my vocabulary I feel like it needs to be So let's just really overdo it this episode Yeah Forbidden Forbidden Forbidden Forbidden

I said the patrons Yeah You can get your names shouted out In the first week of every month You get early videos when we're organised Yeah we've been off our We've been off our routine Because of the whole COVID's situation

a few weeks back and we're just but on this day that this episode goes up we should be saying FG so unfortunately the F and FG stands for forbidden yes

they're forbidden let's do some cleaning over here guys is that section of the show where we head to the comment section from the previous episode and address some of the feedback and comments and whatnot just put the cherry on the top of those conversations and round them off um gumgy as you know

we're not going to start with gumby or end with gumby um a puffin it's going to get us going i used to be a pizza delivery guy and got you two's very often this is in um reference to you were you were saying the story about when you order a pizza and they say enjoy and you say you too yeah um eventually i just opted for saying have a good night instead to avoid the awkwardness i'd also get the occasional love you by or asking me how i was doing then i'd say good how are you and they'd respond with good how are you again i agree that there is just something awkward about a stranger rocking up to your house so hopefully that makes jim feel a bit better they probably got it all the time this reminds me of a funny story i heard they yeah which always tickles me

probably more than it should but my first ever job first ever proper job when I was a waiter I worked with a waiter who told me that one time he put somebody's food down

in front of them and they said thank you and he just turned to them and said I love you just looked at them I love you and then realise what he said and just fucking bolted

and just went Oh, he didn't even, like, try and fix it. No, I mean, once you drop that, what, like, what can be? Yeah, you basically have two options, so either you address it and try and make a joke out before you just, you just accept it and move off. Yeah. I think the love needs to be spread more in the world. Like, what's, there's nothing wrong with saying? Do you think the, do you think saying I love you should be something that's, that's hard to say?

No. So it's sort of, it, it, it, it, it keeps its value. by being rare or do you think people should drop it like all the time would there be more loving the world you should you should in the UK we probably don't say it enough yeah we don't mm you know so there are some people that drop it all the time hmm there is an equilibrium there you don't want to abuse it see I've always had the certain things I've had the the idea the the mindset that you should you don't want it over use it. You don't want it to lose its meaning.

And I love you is one of those ones I've kind of been like that, but I realize that you can use other words for love you when you want to get your feelings across in like an intimate relationship. I don't, like, we should drop more love you, you know?

Yeah, what about when you just want to tell your boys you love them, you know? Yeah, exactly. Um, we got this one from Diet Water who said, we're officially in the crackhead James era. Based off the intro, but I think they're right. No, I don't have crackhead energy. I have forbidden energy.

Because crackhead, like, crackhead you and me right now are two very, very different levels of energy and being. I don't have that random spontaneity that you had back then. did we mention that because we refer to the old me as the crackhead Alex there were like a few comments being like yeah you said this yeah did you mean like he's actually taking crack um no this is not the crackhead James sewer I'm I think I'm it can't be crackhead it needs to something else smackhead that doesn't work either no I just think this is like a new era

it in the it's just mature maturing it's like cheese you leave it out in the in the cold damp bog it matures it becomes something new that's the current state of jar

and the people in it we're becoming fresh no that's the opposite when cheese matures it becomes not fresh and therefore taste better yeah I'm not I'm not saying that as like a bad thing

we are like wine we're aging really well aged ratchett RAPG 01 says On the topic of CBD

What age would you recommend trying it I know in the US it's legal for some 18 year olds and sometimes legal for 21 year olds I'm 20 and I know it'll be legal in my area but I'm a little scared to start trying it and having long-term effects on me stay frosty

I think it's It's recommended in the UK You'd be 18 or up You can buy it at a year just 16 right No you won't be able to Because you need a you need they check It's something that needs to be checked To make sure you're visibly over 21

It's like Red Bull You can't buy it and 18 Yeah but you can No you can buy Red Bull at 16 You can't No I had a quick Google earlier And it was like The Health whatever recommends 18 and up

But it's non-psychoactive, so I don't think you have to worry as much about these long-term effects maybe that you're worried about. It doesn't really have any, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I mean, the short-term effects are almost negligible. Mm-hmm. You know, it's not something you're going to drink a CBD drink and then be tripping for, like...

Yeah, it's really not like that. You'll notice that you feel a bit better. You only notice it when you focus on noticing. it. That's one of the good things about CBD is that it's it's not like a conscious thing like when you're drunk you know you're drunk. Yeah no I've mentioned this song before but it's like

you when you first have CBD you're basing off of like what you think will happen the place but it's once you know you actually understand what it does to is when you can actually enjoy it. You've got be conscious and be like oh this is

the CBD feeling then you can enjoy it. I would I have had CBD 18? Probably not. I think I appreciate it more now and I would say that CBD's stupidly expensive so that if you can avoid having it at that age don't raise your money on it

because it is quite expensive and if you're becoming reliant on it for anxiety or whatever that money it's just really expensive and I don't want people to put themselves in a bad position at a young age to try and help, you know.

Yeah. Because it is, it's like a few cookies can be easily be 10 pound or 20. And then the oil is like 50 pound. If you're buying that regularly, that adds up and it's just be careful with it. That's what I can really say. Be careful about the money,

but it's not really a substance. I'd really say, like, yeah, you've got to be careful with this. No, you don't need to. No, not at all. Because you don't, like, you can't even get, you don't even get tolerance to it either. Mm-hmm.

It just stays. It always stays effective. It's like, I wouldn't ever warn anyone be like, oh, CBD. It's just like, yeah, CBD has loads of benefits. Like, there's no reason to worry. And you've seen that of older people were really normally skeptical about CBD.

Like, I was talking to my mom about it because I think she noticed the millions of bottles of CBD on my floor. It was like, you shouldn't be doing that, James, you can get addicted. And I was just like, what fuck you on about getting addicted. You can't.

It's like they don't understand CBD, And they're probably the generation that would probably benefit from it quite a lot. Yeah, yeah. But hey, just do it when you're ready. Do it when you feel like it will be helpful. Well, I mean, don't buy it if you don't think... Yeah, it doesn't sound like something you'd enjoy, don't buy? Yeah, but also, like, you don't need it, you know?

If you do suffer from anxiety, it's worth giving it a go. I'd highly recommend it. I mentioned on Jha before, like, when, you know, I was taking propranol, I think it's called, for my anxiety. And what that would do for me is make it so I couldn't feel my heart rate, like, which is quite nice, but I had all the weird side effects, whereas with CBD I get that same calming effect. Without any side effects, so it's good for me.

It does, it does fucking wonders for my anxiety, because it's like my mind is so active, and I barely ever, like, ever notice. just my breathing, because I'm always in a state of panic or just, like, so overwhelmed. But it's like, if I have CBD, it's just like, I actually know I'm breathing. It's like, I'm so just clear of anything going on my brain. It's just like... Well, we tried, like, a CBD, like, coffee.

There's, like, one that's popped up in a town near us. It's like a little shop that sells it. And it's like, it's like a nice combination. Yeah. Caffeine and a bit of CBD. Because it's not, it's not too much CBD. It was like 7MG. So it's quite, like, a nice...

a nice tint of calmness yeah and it's like you can get the water soluble CBDs now that you can like you can put in coffees as well mm-hmm it's like there's so many varieties for it it's just like there's never not a reason to try it but with coffee specifically it works so well love it damn it's a shame we don't have a CBD sponsor right now okay it's time to go back to Gumbi Gumbi can't wait for the Donda review four hours long with three is being dedicated to the first song, Donda chant, and the other hour is the rest of the album. And Tom left one saying, Hey, Rudy Goonis, have you heard Kanye West Donda? If so, what did you think?

The responses have been pretty mixed, so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts. And someone replied to that comment with something I thought was pretty funny. Nihar. James said he hates it already, because he's the master troll. Alex will, like some parts of it, but overall have negative feelings. and Jamie is a wild card. He either will think it's the best album or worse than Jesus is king.

Well, I've already made my opinion somewhat known. Yeah, so we're going into topics. Let's talk about Donda. Donda. Donda. Donda. So, who wants to get this going? Where to start with this album?

I don't like it. I don't think it's a good album, and by Kanye standards, it's really not good. But, saying that, there is some songs on this album that are some of his best. Junya is absolutely incredible. Believe what I say, incredible. Was it God? Jail? I like it.

I wouldn't say it's one of the better ones on the album, and God Blessed or Busted or whatever that one's called. God breathed. God breathed, that one. Would you like that one? Yeah, I think that's on the same level as Joe for me. But the other songs, just shit. Jim, what's your top level?

Terrible. Top level. What are your feelings? I like it. I like it more with every listen. How many times have you listened to the entire thing? Because it's so long, it's not like I'd listen through it the same way I would other albums, because... Yeah.

Because that's the trouble I've been having. I've only listened to the whole thing once in one go, but I've listened to, like, chunks of it. Yeah. So what I'll do is I'll listen to like a third of it, do something else, and then when I get a chance so I'll listen to another third and continue where I left off so I've listened through the whole thing probably like five times at this point okay so you're the most experienced of us here um my gut is the because we were pretty we're pretty hard on jesus king when that came out and we're pretty disappointed with that I don't really have that same kind of feeling

because it's such a dense album and there's so many songs in there and I've got a like examples of songs I really enjoy on it that I do appreciate yeah it's interesting at the very least it feels it's not like Jesus King where I'm like I just don't I yeah I can't with any of this but it just comes together a bit cleaner but at the same time I'm still like my favorite Kanye albums I can just listen to the whole thing Like, whenever. Yeah. I can't see me basically ever doing that with Donda.

I don't think I like the lower parts enough for me to bother doing that. There's just some songs on it that I can't not skip. I find it quite boring at points. Right. I did agree for the thing is I've always found with Kanye that it, it, There is a familiarity you get with an album of his, where even the stuff you don't like so much, it grows on you. It's placement within the album, like fits. And I think there's one song that I straight up can't listen to.

Do you remember which one? This is actually a problem with the album, because I think the names of the songs are really bad. Yeah, yeah. Because it's just kind of a repetitive motif, to be honest. Yeah. It's just like a bit heavy on the God stuff, God and Jesus. Yeah, that's another thing. Because that was the thing about Jesus of King where I enjoyed a lot of the beats

and the production and the sound of it. But it was just like the wordplay and the lyrics, the lyricism. Yeah. I just couldn't. And it's still a minor, well, it's still one of the things about this album, be it the censoring of swears and just the current Kanye isms yeah this is something I've sort of gone on a journey with

I don't think current Kanye is all that different from previous Kanye yeah what do you mean with because I kept thinking like with the religious stuff like he was never this religious but he's had no he's well like Jesus

just walks. Yeah, it was like his original banger. And we all adore Life of Pablo and the first song Ultralight Beam is, well the whole album, it's like full of... Yeah, it starts and ends on straight up like gospel music. But for me, what the

difference is, is I just think like the energy in the wordplay is just a bit superior in that older stuff. Not to say that there isn't good like proper Kanye stuff that I felt like I didn't get from Jesus King that I'm actually getting here like when I heard Believe What I say

Is that the one? I was just like yeah Just immediately like yeah like this I'm into this It's just a good song And the same of Junya like it's such a Kanye song Him like referencing some Japanese fashion designer like watch thing

It's like so specific and so Kanye in like Yeah But I do think this album it sounds and with what you talks about especially on Jesus Lord I think this album is Kanye kind of at his lowest really he says stuff that you would never expect Kanye to say like have you ever I don't remember the specific terminology he uses but he says something along the lines of like

did you ever want to live a different life have you ever wanted to be a different person I feel like old Kanye would never have said that but Kanye in the specific scenario he's in now yeah I mean this is still like sort of initial impressions for me if you've had five listens that's four more than me

to kind of break down the lyrics whereas I made like a mini playlist of just the songs I know I like and I've been listening to you yeah um well Jesus Lord is a good example of one way like at first I was like I don't like this but if you actually listen to

the lyrics and stuff it's kind of like the 30 hours of this album really yeah he's like telling a story yeah that's the thing like it is like two hours it's like breaking down a movie or something there's so much to talk about um yeah i don't really know i can't go into it in too much depth um i don't know i'm not like i'm not

that passionate right now from being real it's like yeah we'll like it for what it is my knee jerk was this album isn't good it's not a good album but i kept listening to it i kept listening to it i don't know why yeah i keep listening to the songs from it yeah well that's how it started for me i found four songs that I liked and was just listening to them and then thought if I like these so much I'm listening to them so much I'm going to give it a go again so I did added like another two songs and then it sort of just progressed from there I think with that the way you're saying

that how it's going on you I think you need to come back to this album further down the line you need to talk about it in seven months time once you've not once you've stopped listening to them and you start listening to them again you'll pick up on things and your opinion will change on it. I think that's probably what will happen with this album. Honestly, I had like anti-hype for that album

because I found it so obnoxious the way the like date kept being pushed and all this like just nonsense around it and the glib-glob bullshit and these viewing parties and whatnot. Yeah, in a way I'm kind of glad that's how it panned out because at first

it was like, oh shit, Kanye album out this Friday? It was like, oh, no. Oh, shit, Kanye album coming out next Friday? Oh, no. And then that for like a month and a half. And then it finally drops. Like, all hype is gone at that point.

I'd already heard a bunch of the songs just in, like, Twitter videos and shit. So hype wasn't really a thing that affected, like, it wasn't like, I like Kanye. He just dropped an album, so I like it. It, like, leveled my expectations. so I feel like I can actually appreciate the album for what it is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Does any of the, like, controversy stuff affect your opinion in any way?

Yes. Yeah, I think it's distasteful. Yeah, I guess especially considering the fact it's supposed to be like the... It's like a love letter to his mum. So having, like... Serial fucking abuse on it is not very... Yeah, like, multiple. I don't like those songs

and I only listen to them because they're the part two so I just don't listen to the part ones I think the part two shouldn't be on the album Yeah I agree with that I think the problem this album has And I know you might disagree with me Jim

But there's a fucking great album in there It's just been pumped up so fucking big Cut that album down to 10 songs And you've got a fucking great album It doesn't need to be 20 songs 27 songs long it just becomes you're talking about how

you can't listen to it all in chunk in like a full sitting it's far there's too much there like after after about half hour of the vibe of this album I don't I don't actually I don't inherently have a problem with a long album

but it needs to be refreshing yeah to actually want you to listen to it like the production in this album is good but the songs are too long they stretch it out and they blow everything cut some of those songs down to like two to two 30 minutes and you got a great song but it's like when it's so repetitive why would you continue listening yeah i'm curious how i am going to feel about this in six months

yeah my bet is that i'm going to feel the same way like as you are right now it won't grow or fault, yeah. Yeah, the thing is, I like an album where I don't have to just listen through it once and my opinion is like sorted. That's what I mean, it's definitely more interesting and I actually enjoy the conversation around it more. There's like a bit of debate, people have a range of different opinions about it. Yeah. I just know that the best songs in this aren't ever going to stop being the best songs. Like, Junior is probably a lot of. top three song can you song ever it generally can't that that song's so fucking good it's just a shame it was on this album for me i think off the grid is a better song i i i the three

songs that i really like is believe what i say off the grid and junior those three like when we because we first started listening to it together in in a car and it was and i was like yeah whatever until yeah off the grid there's that you Yeah, well, from the get-go, I think Jail is such a good song for the album to start on. Mm-hmm. Because, I mean, that is the start of the album, like, Donda Chan is just... Mm-hmm. Um...

With J-Z coming back as well? Yeah. It's the kind of thing I sort of only... I never thought it would really happen. I get bad feelings about it, though. Well, I just... Because his appearance in another... album. I think it's not because he, I don't think it's like, because he wants to reconnect with

Kanye. I just don't think it's that. Maybe he says it might be the return of the throne. It's not the return of the throne. Yeah, I guess with the jail thing, like what you mentioned earlier, it just, I don't get the point of the part two one. I feel like the message is communicated pretty well and the story's told really well in that first jail thing and having Jay-Z be the feature on it. Yeah. As opposed to. Yeah, it makes total sense.

It's really bizarre the fact that he did the part two's on the album. But if you really wanted to... I think the junior part two works better, better. I think every other part two is better than Jail.

And Jail's one of my favorite songs from the album, so you'd think just having another version of it would be good. It would be good, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's distasteful as fuck. Well, speaking of distasteful as fuck,

Gah, Drake also dropped his fucking lover boy album um we got to start with the album cover i think it's funny how like Kanye's album is just like a black square and uh yeah drake's one is like a bunch of pregnant emojis um which like it's it's an all it's one of the worst album covers ever it's fucking atrocious um and it would be bad enough just on its own but the fact that it's like damien hurst like credited like as the artist and it has this whole like layer of like cuntiness yeah to me where it's like really like this is the kind of shit that it looks like a meme that you'd see on Twitter but because

Damon Hurst did it like then it's art now mm-hmm and that's this you know he's quite a controversial artist or whatever so you know he's quite a controversial character at this point but I listened through some of it skip through some of it um creepy guy creepy music the lesbian thing is like so strange on um

girls want girls yeah I I don't like Drake as an artist he is so unbelievably bland and boring that I would

I'd rather listen to the worst songs on Donda on repeat for the next fucking two hours than listen to any fucking Drake album ever. Like, there's no reason to listen to this album. I commend you if you can make it through this album. Because I was like, I thought, you know what? Even though the album covers trash,

give it a listen, give it a... I'll give it Drake a fair shot this time. Yeah, I did the same thing and started with champagne poetry, that first song. It's like a five and a half minute song or something. Also, I did just criticize Kanye for bloating an album, but isn't... Some of Drake's albums, like 30 plus songs. This one is an hour and 26. How many songs?

21 songs. Something far off. One of his old... It was one of his older ones. I think his Scorpion is like the really bloated one. No, that's an hour and a half too. Yeah, it tends to look like his sort of... Okay.

Yeah, hard enough. I won't give him that criticism that I gave, can't you? So sorry, Drake. Like, you're not, you're not bloated shit, you're just shit. Like a really long album like that is kind of different for his discography. Yeah. I guess it's just what is, what's the intent? What do you read from the intent of that?

Yeah, I'm like so hung up on this album cover. It's just another thing where it's like, I see it being shared and talked about. And I'm like, that's not real. I'm just being, it's a meme again. Like, it's a joke. I thought it was a joke. It's like, it, so there was the whole drama with him and Pusherty, where Pusherty revealed that he has a son, that he's just, like, ditched. Yeah, yeah.

And it's like, okay, if he supports the kid, whatever. The implication from this album is that he's got, like, loads of sons. He's a, loads of kids that he, he's just sort of ditched and, like, it's not really something to, to boast about. I don't think. Yeah, with the imagery of the album and then the name of it, certified lover boy. But have you heard the song,

Papi's Home? Yeah, I did listen to that. Yeah, and he's like, to all my sons out there. Yeah. He's basically just bragging about how many girls he's got pregnant. It's about being a fucking cunt,

basically. Mm-hmm. Not a surprise. It's Drake. Yeah, but he's got like Kid Cooties on there, Jay Z's on there. Yeah.

Yeah. Jay Z's on the It's like I don't even think Jay Z can bring this fucking album up His song's really bad actually This is the thing with Drake He like James said

He's just boring He's so boring Nothing was going on Yeah Honestly It's so like monotone And like he's like He doesn't even care about what he's saying

Okay Do you think His music is ghost written Yes it's like so passionless to me I'm pretty sure it is ghostwit and I'm pretty sure that's just been confirmed well that was the rumour from Tipinper Butterfly that he

that Kendrick was talking about Drake yeah but I don't know if it's been confirmed but yeah it does sound like like he doesn't really care I'm using sample of way too sexy for my shirt mm-hmm it's so corny yeah it's incredibly corny there's like a lack of taste and it's just boring like it but that's just like that just describes all of his albums pretty much to me it's just him jake in general everything he does will have that like i i heard a cool quote from canier from an

interview from seven years ago yeah where he said like he he he was talking about like yeezers and his music going forward from yeezers um he said like he's thinking about his music being played like 50 100 150 years down the line the stuff that's going to stand out and be remembered because this is the exact type of shit that he's in in 50 years time

yeah who's gonna remember holy water is my beverages I went to get that the sound of dunder is like whoa yeah like shit is just going on that's what keeps me going even with like the crazy lyric And even when he says Like the lame Like Buzz Lightyear line and shit

It's like it's He holds it up on that Super unique Production Whereas like Drake just uses Trap Beat 3 Over Over too sexy for my

Shorts Donda out of Kanye's discography Will be remembered more than his other stuff I think Donda's more likely to be forgotten for the music for the album itself the situation around it would be the only thing that he's remembered by no i think it's too donda i think donda has a really strong identity it's got this like cold harsh production juxtaposed with the like really religious stuff

he doesn't really make religions sound attractive it doesn't make me yeah whereas with like Jesus's king I felt like it was yeah it felt forced like he was trying to make this

this glory sounding shit was yeah the gospel album yeah whereas Donder it's like it it feels like a classic slice of Kanye like it's him

how he feels at the time and his like his thoughts and beliefs just from that time released and put into music I'm glad to know you enjoyed it and we've listened to it I didn't feel

they need to jump in and listen to the whole thing right away yet by will sooner or later you don't want to force it ever I only listened through it over and over because I wanted to so you could say that you force yourself to like the songs

no no I'm literally saying the opposite I force yourself where no even the stuff I didn't like I gave it a fair shot no you forced yourself a fair shot is to first listen

no if you never if you always take shit at face value because like it it's the same sort of journey I went on with um Ego by Tyler the creator it's like at first it's like what is this music trying to be you well i had that reaction to life of pablo before right yeah yeah yeah that was the first kani album i listened to and i i remember getting to um what's that bleached asshole did yeah bleached asshole song and i was like

jesus christ this fucking sucks this is so bad but then something just like i just had to hear it again yeah yeah i had the same thing it was it wasn't the bleached asshole song that's like a different one and you'll say what is it about this and then you just get sucked into the album and then you just love the whole album yeah that thing you're talking about to me is production that i the only reason i'll ever go back to a song or keep listening to song and i've said this so many times the production's the only thing that will carry a song ever the reason i like the junior believe what i said is because the production's great because it doesn't get stale or boring like the other songs in donda for me one of the things I'm actually looking for most out of Kanye is humor yeah I think he's really funny yeah he's hilarious and there's actually some funny stuff on them yeah there is but also um heart from Kanye yeah he's got a way of like speaking directly to

he's quite earnest yeah well I don't know if earnest is the right word for Kanye yeah no you're right not not earnest he's he's just real honest yeah yeah honest for sure which is the complete

fucking opposite of Drake yeah Kanye is honest Drake is the most fucking fake fucking bitch you can fucking find don't you like

his little heart hair thing I fucking hate it bro it's like you can just copy and paste Drake you can't copy and paste Kanye

what's the read on Donda right now broadly. Do people like it? I think people have just loved it. I think it's a case-by-case basis. It's such a... It's a weird album.

Yeah, it's super popular. I feel like it's similar to how people would have responded to Yeezers when that dropped. Right. Like some people saying it's just like the best thing ever released by anyone ever. Yus is one I need to listen to again too. There's certain Kanye albums

I've never really bothered with and users is one of them because like we talk about music when we're together and you'll talk about like Kanye album and I'll be like I have no fucking clue what it is or any of the songs on it

because I just don't I don't know album like Kanye albums I just know his really good songs because it's just like Life of Pablo is like the first Kanye album I actually like fully listened to so I like the whole experience of a like

super solid album yeah it's like it's different just listening to singles it's like a whole story a whole package yeah that's what I mean

about the Kanye slice you just get like a slice of his crazy perspective in this time of his life and the way he like references stuff from previous albums as well yeah you get to go on this journey with him Well, anything else on Drake or Kanye before we go into the mid?

No, um, Kanye's clothesline is pretty fucking gross. I think we should do an episode where we're all wearing those jackets. Is it the blue one? That blue, it looks so disgusting. People actually buy that. The $300 jacket thing. It looks fucking shit. We'll see after these Dunders.

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Katia fucking Managan. And last but not least, David Wallace. Thanks everyone. to the second half of the jar cast where we answer questions from the subreddit head over to the suggestion thread and ask us whatever the hell you like mr tenma is going to start us off how many jameses would it take to fight one bear-sized jamie they didn't specify what bear how many jameses would it take to take on one jamy first of all because i'm saying at least Jamie, I'm saying four. Jamie, you've got some right fucking ego with you at the moment.

Let's be real. I've got bigger feet. How does that help you defeat him in a fight? Yeah, that makes you easier to trip up. More weight. And do you know what weight means? More pain. No, for real.

I think us fighting will be about equal. Fuck me Don't destroy my Yankee It would be equal Because I do have a height And reach advantage over you And I can kick pretty hard So I'm not gonna

I'm not gonna try and get into like a grappling ball with you Because I know I'll be at a disadvantage I'm not getting close to you Because you've got you've got mass You will hit me fucking hard And it will hurt so to beat that to beat that I will just use range

and my feet I'll kick because I'm confident in my kicks because one kick to the side of your whips and that you can fuck you up should me and James just fight on job you know that's exactly what I was thinking trying to have a fight in the garage yeah

the fucking sumo wrestle in the garage yeah I but like at the end of day with the way it works in fighting is There's no competition between us What do you mean?

Because we'd be in different weight classes So I'd be in a heavier weight You would, exactly So that therefore you Yeah, therefore I win Pretty much, like Okay, what about the actual question then About a, how many James is it would take

To take down one bear-sized Jamie, let's see Let's say it's a grizzly. Grizzly-sized I'm gonna say I'm trying to picture it. Yeah, how did you... Is it like on my dead bear with Jamie's skin on? It's like an animal-type situation.

Yeah, like, am I an actual, like... Like James said, like a bear wearing a skin suit with me. Or... Or... Or... That has the same space of a bear. Of a grizzly. So you're just a big, a giant...

You're you... This is the thing, the jarlings. They've got to get more specific with these questions. Yeah. Yeah. How can we answer it? It's in the minutia. Well, yeah, because like...

And when, when it comes to... Does it mean literal Like height or does it mean Does it mean mass? Like am I width weighs The mass of a bear If we're just gonna give them credit And just let's just say

You know that using the wording Bear size Jamie It's just you the size of a grizzly bear So a bear of a Jamie skin No that's not what you're saying I think he's saying if I if when I stood up I'm the height of a grizzly bear when a grizzly bear is stood up

No, I don't think you could You could have ten Jameses surround that at the same time and I'd still be fucked I don't think In any fight That isn't an obscenely powerful being Yeah, like my exact proportions

stretched out to the height of a bear Yeah You can't That's too much That's way too far It's like the lions versus the sun It's like It's not even a bite here

What reverse it What about Alex's versus a James bear No, here's the thing with the Alex X James fight I think me and Alex are probably not In hugely different weight classes Because in terms of reach Alex is heavier than me

So going by weight classes If I'm in a different one to you No but me like some more similar Uh I don't even know I haven't checked in so long I'm positive, Alex, not regressive. But in terms of like our height and our reach, we're quite similar

because we're pretty much almost the same size. So I think that's where we'd be fair. It's just you've got the Belmont mass. The Balman booty. I don't have Belmont mass. No matter what, I'm going to lose. I don't know. I just don't really want to be talking about bears right now. It's making me stressed.

Does the thought of a bear stress you out? No. I've mentioned it before and I'll say it again I fucking hate bears Can you hate bears Because they're the most frightening animal I'm not scared If I

Nah if you'd seen this YouTube video I'd seen man You're getting all of your like bear information from YouTube If I'm in America in the In the wilderness I was going to call it the Outback But I know Australians will get upset but say I'm in like Canada or one of these states in the middle

I was just like going to my garage and there's a bear like where you just be like oh that's cool there's just a chill bear there it'll probably be walking down from the trees like having a nose and if I just walk and do what I'm doing it's like

why is it going to give a shit? No if I live in America and I lived in a state where there were bears how many guns would you weren't so many? Would you go and Just bear guns. Get like machine guns and stuff.

Just to feel safe. You need to actually, like how many people actually get attacked by bears? How many people are being attacked? No, but I actually like going into the wilderness is the thing. But here we don't have to worry about, um, would you go into the wilderness if you live there? With a shotgun slung over my shoulder, would you? But do you think that would actually make it more enjoyable? Do you feel like, do you think you're going to be in a fucking bad?

fuck up a grisly of a shotgun but you me well in this instance I'd be an American so I'd be like yaha you know I I don't want to no I feel like a shotgun could take down a bad a grizzly's gonna get

if it fucking wants you is getting you no if you have a shotgun I feel like you could put that thing off well some bear I go into America and we're testing it for a real yeah we'll smear ourselves in honey and peanut butter and just run into the walls

Come on, come on, we've got a test to do No, but like I'm not gonna have beef of bears When like bear cubs are the cutest fucking thing I saw one, I saw a picture of one today They're creepy They're cute as fuck, bro Have you seen them standing up and their weird arms

Yeah, their proportions are creepy as hell Yeah, I love that No, but I'm strange Because I think snakes are cute I enjoy like mammals, you know Not bears No, next question Who whales? Fine

No, whales are scary Fucking whales are disgusting They're not psychos I would Wait what They're not disgusting Whales aren't gross They're stunning

They are stunning But they're scary They're like They're scary But I would rather be in an ocean Near a whale Than be in a woods Near a pear

No, if you're in the ocean without a boat. No, that's not... No, that's equivalent. Yeah, that's... You're not going to go into the wild of a Jeep who a machine gun on. Yeah, if...

That's the equivalent you have to make. If you're on a boat in the ocean, then you have to be in like a Humvee in the woods. Yeah, no, that's that means... No, you're just being pedantic. No, that's fair. That is fair. That is fair.

No, but the... what it breaks down into is that the whale is just less scary than the bear. Whales are inherently less scary than bears. I disagree. What do you mean? You find it more existentially scary because they're just so odd

and they make scary noises. They're huge. I'm scared by their size. No, dude, if you're face to face with a grizzly, the size of that thing is... I'm not going to be face to face of a grizzling. I'm not going to be face to face of a whale. Yeah, well, you're the ones talking about how scary the size of whales are.

You can't drop that long. I'm more scared of the sea than I am the land. I can't swim. That is one thing, though. Land stuff inherently, it's where we're meant to be. That's one of the reasons ocean creatures are terrifying. Because they live in a different realm.

I'll not debate you on that one. The ocean is terrifying. We're out of our element. Yeah. But forests, scary. to be honest a like a modern human

is pretty much out of their element in any... Yeah, anywhere that isn't like a 21st century estate Yeah That question was supposed to be just like A little quick, like Let's get into the question segment

And it's like And you had to go and bring up bears It's the animal curse If animals come up That's just 20 minutes gone It's like I've just know Obviously we've got a polar bear Toy literally there

Yeah And obviously a polar bear Is it a scary Like If I see A bear or grizzly bear What's scarier to you like Polar bear

Because there's just zero chance Zero chance you're so Yeah Like no I'm not I would never mess with If you see a polar bear I'm getting the fuck away If I see a bear

If I see a polar bear And like You have nowhere to lock yourself away from You're fucked Yeah Because even if you do There's still like a 90% Chance is getting in there

And killing you Because they're Hungry. Those fuckers are hungry and they're going to eat. Yeah, they're looking in a hostile, horrendous environment. Yeah, there's crumbling beneath their feet. I question how the polar bears came to be.

How did anything come to be, James? No, but when did the bear become the polar bear? When it went up, where it just went... Let's see this one from Wombo, the elephant. Have you guys seen X-Iceman 3X video from like four years ago? We talks about

how he's leaving YouTube. It's really weird to see this ancient jar meme's legacy end with such a whimper. And the whole tone of the video is like the bizarre manifesto from a guy who peaked in high school making Modern Warfare 2 videos, mourning how his dedication to this dying art form took a toll on his development as a person. To be honest, the thing that took a toll on his development was Alex. Hey man, boy boy man. No, I hope that's my dream is to get Ice Man on the cast. Really?

Yeah, fuck Pudypie, fuck Jack Septukeye, fuck Gaming Merchant. We need ex-Ice Man on here. I take back fuck the gaming merchant. He's included. No, we love the game. But you're live on camera saying fuck Pudypie and fuck Jack Septickeye. IHE is going out and saying it. I'm only, I.

I don't get them after you, Jack. You realize he's in... FG. He's in FG, right? Oh, I've really fucked up big time this day. Maybe they're coming after you, I can hear them already. I've never watched an Ice Man video. Yes, you have.

You saw the one where... We should probably mention who Ice Man is. I don't actually know how to explain it. Iceman's a Canadian cod player. He used to play cod in the Modern Warfare Free. He was like... it was from that YouTube era with the reply girls and he was basically a reply girl

who would like steal the tags from like Rucity videos so he'd show up and recommended which of course is how I found him and he was just too alluring the exact kind of thing that just gets so much entertainment from me um

hope he's doing all right last time I hope he got his radio show that you always wanted last time I saw uh he was like he's like a painter and he's got like a truck He goes around painting or something. That's cool. Yeah. He's making his life.

I'm respecting that. I hope he's doing well. Good luck to you, Ice Man. A great overlord chick-on says, A recurring topic I've noticed on the show for several years has been the Gears of War series. Do the Jal Boys actually like some of the games or remember them fondly?

Or is it a joke? Or is it a joke for them being bad and funny? Um, No Gears Wait who actually thinks Gears is just bad and funny I unabashedly love Gears of War No I

Gears is one of the games I have the best memories of when we used to play it Because we Yeah we went in on Gears of War III We played a lot of gears Because it's like Gears 2 came out at a time And we didn't really have Xbox

And we couldn't really play together And then Gears 3 came out And we were all so excited And you would get You'd buy all the pre-order the skins you can get from all the different companies. Gears War 3 was when I was most into Gears of War

probably. It's one of the best Xbox 360 Euro games. Yeah, the 360 Euro was just solid for very exclusives. Shit campaign there. No, the campaign's sick. I prefer Geese 2 campaign. I prefer the aesthetic. But Gears 3, it had hoard. Gear 3 hoard, awesome. Gees 4 hoard, great.

Gears 5 hoard. No, Geese is a... Incredible. It's... It's a game that's always going to stick with us because it's like, when anyone comes out,

we always have fun on it. It has something about the gameplay loop and the way it is that it's just... It's fun. And it's... Maybe not with four. It stayed fairly true to itself. Yeah, at least mechanically in four,

it was fairly true. They didn't do the halo and just like redesign its whole core foundation for no reason. Yeah, I like it. I just think that original trilogy especially, stupid, dumb, fun and it takes itself so seriously

it makes it so endearing and like, there's the like over-the-top story beats and stuff and just how like melodramatic and silly it is, but it is weirdly like endearing. So I have a lot of like fondness for that original. I do. The two main characters of Gears of War. No, the four characters. Delta's called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just perfect.

Like actual genius Yeah Mm-hmm I don't think they're ever going to be able to Come close to what they used to have See because when they'd I thought they'd 3-4-3 did it with Gears of War 4 Yeah

But Gears 5 they made their characters better They definitely gave them a bit of texture Yeah But tonally it still feels slightly off Yeah it's not quite there It's not when it's being funny It's being too funny Like Marvel funny

Yeah, and when it's being serious, it's being, like, it's, it's, it's not the blurred lines of, uh, where the, the seriousness was the humor, but also the drama. Mm-hmm. You know, like, everyone knows the Gears War II moment with Dom's wife, which is like the most fucked up shit, but it's so dark. It's like, it's so obscenely dark, but at the same time, the game is like, you're, you bury underground and you're chainsawing, like, underground monsters and the giant worm it's so goofy yeah it's so stupid but and it's always it is mocked for its like character design it's character design and level design to

yeah yeah and the level design I think it's been like Wongley like blaine for the whole fair person like it was the one that started the whole cover base shooting and the grey kind of aesthetic it didn't deserve that really because it is such a great game and set of games. Yeah, that's actually something I wish they'd go back to was the... It had an identity in that it was grey and bleak.

It was depressing. It was depressing. And for that, just because it started a bad trend doesn't mean that its identity was bad because of that. I think it should have started. By the time it got to three, they actually got a good thing going in terms of the, yeah, the color palette. Because that was like the variety. I didn't really like the way Gears 3 looked. Yeah, Gears 3 is one of the first game.

where it was like a big AAA thing that I really wanted to play and then I played it and I was like, I'm just going to stop because I don't really like this. That's fair enough. I think you of JAR the one who likes Gears the least.

Yeah. Like when we played Gears Free like the really edgy kind of try hard mode that was fun and... The duo is one you'd always play. Yeah, I love Gears and like when the new one came out

we all played it. I just hope the next one continues the improvements of five, and it just makes all the characters better, and it. I do want to say as well, the DLC campaign, they did for Gears 5, straight up good. I'd happily... Yeah, I'd happily play a game with, like, those characters. They can clearly make new characters in this world that feel right.

I think they misstepped massively with the cast. of Gears 4 and they sort of fuck themselves into Gears 5 but they fixed it in Gears 5 because Del and Kate

they got really good development and I think the way they used his son JD JD I think those Kate and Dell carried that story and it's just they developed in a way that made sense

especially with how the game ended and I think that can get better I just hope they do. But it's nice to see a Microsoft series that's rebooted itself well. So continued it without just fucking it.

Yeah. But it hasn't kept its heavyweight stature. Oh, hell no. Because it used to be, like, it was Gears, Halo, Forza. And now it's Fausa and kind of gears and the Halo's probably going to suck.

And... That's what Xbox? There's no better time than to talk about all the new armours for Halo. Yeah, we might as well mention it, so you can talk about Halo so much. So 3 for 3, like, have shown off for the new MCC, Most Chief Collection season. They're adding a bunch of, like, armor to Halo 3, and it's been, like, a huge controversial sticking point in the Halo community.

People are debating. Some people love it. it, like, properly love it and others are like, this fucking ruins the, like, style of HALTH. Wait, is this, the stuff James put in? Yeah, yeah. That's only a portion of it. There's more. That's Halo

3. Yeah, they're adding it into Halo 3. Yeah. Okay, that's even more insulting. I thought it was like a infinite. You thought it was infinite? I thought it was a leaked infinite. No, no, no. I thought that earlier. I was just like, wait, wait, Halo 3? No, that is fucking

wrong. so they're all like designed off of they all look like destiny armours yeah they're all old school armour like you've got a Viking looking set then they've got that like the Hellenic ancient Greek you know yeah ancient Greek they've got Roman

they've got like all this different shit and yeah it's not right no I think the whole cosmetic thing we've talked about before we've talked about destiny we've talked about how it is in apex but at least in the Apex world, it's a blood sport.

So being extravagant with armour makes a tiny bit of sand. Even an apex, it pisses me off, but I forgive it because it's free to play. But when it's Halo. When they're retroactively adding this excessively out of place, armour. I guess you haven't seen this then, bro.

How it looks in the game. Yeah, it looks awful. It looks really bad. They look like toys. They And the thing... It's not encouraging for fucking Halo Infinite. Yeah, if they're doing that at Halo Free... If they're using MCC as like the model.

Yeah. Like, you see those armour sets? How expensive... How... Okay, tell me right now. How much of that armour cost in Infinite? That's £20 pound armour there. It's no good, is it, bro?

It gets work. Well, speaking of Gears of War, actually... Gears of War 5 had the work. battle pass ever holy shit was it bad and they're doing it again with a hill of infinite the same structure in terms of the only like way of progressing through the game is through like challenges yeah there's no XP that can run out it's like I can't it's so depressing I I I I infinite has own it's only getting worse it's a downhill it every step every bit of information we get

It's just getting worse. But I feel like Halo fans need to be as vocal as possible about it. Because it makes me think of like a few months ago when Microsoft were like, oh, we're raising the price of fucking Xbox Live gold. Everyone's like, what the fuck? I thought they were counselling it.

And then they're like, oh, oh, no, actually. Bad PR, like it changes shit. Yeah, yeah. But there's that halo divide where they've been starving. of it for so long that they're going to accept no matter what. Yeah, that's what's all in the actual like coping on the subreddit

it's like that Halo subreddit is like on fire at the moment the anger and the debates and all these posts like I'm just sack of the negativity you give negative news you're going to get negative feedback from your fans

what do you expect? Yeah, you should and I think it's worth saying because I know we don't talk about this franchise enough, but... Why? No, Forza. Oh, okay. Forza's been doing everything white. Everything the Halo should be doing.

Confidence. Showing a product that is actually the product. Yeah, because we watched the trailer. Well, it's like a gameplay thing. Forza 5 looks fucking insane. They're super confident in that game. The whole fucking world, they're going out. They're just fucking doing it.

Yeah. And it's just like credit where it's due. Yeah, it's streamlined that development, clearly. Well, that's the thing. They have this foundation that they can just work on. And improve. Hey, look, hey, 3-4-3 never had that because they were given the REACH engine, which Bungy fucked, to make reach. Yeah, I was reading this thing today about, like, um, it was apparently reviews of people who have, like, left 343 leaving reviews of the company and, like, talking about their experience there.

and apparently it's like an awesome place to work and you get like great benefits and it's like good for the work-life balance like the management and the like project leads and just the way it all comes together is like a Microsoft bureaucratic cluster fuck

right yeah they they needed from Halo 4 a strong leader and I think the fact they have staten is definitely the correct move but it's too little too late

it's a shame they didn't get him sooner yeah he it just couldn't have happened the only way it could have worked is if they just dropped Halo until they could get Joe Statenberg I think you can have the best development team in the world

you can have the best benefits the best everything but if the management and the people leading it aren't good enough it fucks well apparently one of the big issues is that they outsource so much work they never have like a consistent team um so they're like people they're just working on it for like a few months they're like contracted it's not like the same level of

investment as opposed to someone who's like been at the studio it's like their DNA they're super passionate about the project it's it's like um like i'm not someone who's worked in severe management roles but i can instantly point out that that's wrong what you just said is what you need if you want to make a product doesn't matter if you're developing robots spaceships, games, programs. You need that formula. You need that, like, office environment. It's a creative industry, too, I feel.

Yeah, you need someone that knows what they want. Yeah. You know, they haven't known what they've wanted, I guess, and that's one of the major problems. Well, yeah, they've just been chasing trends and shit. Like, surely this is what Destiny have now, not that, Bungy have now got the point on. I was thinking about that and why Destiny got away with it,

and it was probably because, new IP, no expectations in terms of that stuff whereas with Halo what is so weird about it being like stripped back and it being like becoming a life service is that it never was that yeah and now it just is because it has to be let's do this one from deadly skies there are a few comments about this actually because we mentioned even Gellion

and James always triggers people when he brings that. Is that the anime that kind of deconstructs, like, Mecca? Deadly Sky says this, to Alex. Don't listen to James regarding Even Gellon. I was listening to the podcast and actually stopped it and came here to write this. I watched the show over the summer. Not being a big anime guy, but just watching because it's a cultural touchstone,

and I absolutely loved it. Admittedly, it starts off Rocky, but at a point, it just grabs you. And I would say it's an experience everyone should have once. It's bleak and existential as hell with really good characters, and I was watching it during a rough time in my own life. And it kind of forced me to deal with personal insecurities, believe it or not, please watch it. And, um, the god replied to that saying, I agreed with James, for the most part until very recently, when I watched a video by the popular anime YouTuber Gygook, where he explained that even Gellion isn't an anime or even a TV series in the traditional sense, but an expression of depression and meaninglessness. This is why I reckon your ability to understand Evangelion is directly proportional to the extent of your depression slash existentialism, Elimea.

There's more, but you know. Okay, let's go into this. Okay, I think we've gone into this Owelly. No, no, I will say it's literally been 10 years since I've watched it. Yeah, it's been 10 years, like, since I've watched it. And... I was watching it the time when I was just watching Boobie anime all the time. booby enemy

Can I just quickly say I don't know how I feel about what that person said in the reply Maybe it was it a joke But it's hard to tell in text form But saying this is what I've always read about it Like your capability of understanding something Is like how depressed you are

No um Like that's quite a hard thing to I guess it's more like to measure Your ability to empathise with the main character Okay so with that I watched a video lately where I can't remember the name, but he actually knows about mental health. He's like a support person for it.

And he was saying that when you're writing stuff relating to mental health, you have to write for two audiences. The person who has it and understands it, the person who doesn't. And if you're watching Evangelion, I think you're going to have two, depending on where you are, you're going to view it differently. So I think if you are... There's definitely something to it. Yes.

Like, it's too resonant. people get so much emotional connection out of it. And that's... I really want to experience that for myself. When I watched it, I was young and I didn't see media in the way I do now. I didn't critically think about it. I didn't understand the messages.

So obviously, I watched it and I just found a lot of things irritating because I just didn't look deeper into it. But I think Evangelion's one of those shows where people dig too deep Gellion Either Is a show where people

They dig so deep into it Where it's just like Yeah I think that you're going too far But I rag on it because it annoys people But people were leaving comments As if I hadn't seen it before I've watched the whole show

And I watched the movie It was just a long time ago And I was definitely Too stupid I guess Yeah I think there's shows that do its job better If you want a show it makes you feel hopeless There's better things out there for that

For me I get hung up on the I just I have no familiar familiarity with the whole Mecca genre I feel like part of that is Yeah it's a deconstruction of Mecca It's going into the de- That bugs gym so much

Every time he hates it so much when he'd say it that. Because it's supposed to dive into like... I fucking love it. Why don't you watch it? Jim hasn't watched Mecca. Well, I see it there because it's on Netflix.

I just see it and I think, eh, cringe and just keep scrolling. I, people, like, people don't realize I was a fucking Eva fanboy. I'd go on forward. I would go on, I would go on Ford Channel and go into the Yasuka Wife Reds and shit posts for hours on end

about who, Rich Wafu from Evangelion is the hotter one. Like, that's what I did. Like, I am. I like either. But it's just people get annoyed if you talk shit on it. But I want to watch it again. But I think now is probably not the time for it.

I think I want to mature more before I delve into that for now. And I want to watch more Mecca. See, I see it there and I'm like, yeah, I could, watch either again or I could start Jojo. You should just watch Jojo. Like if you're going to watch, like if you're actually interested in watching an Evangelian, you should think to yourself

there's better shows you can watch Jojo Cowboy Bebop. Well, while we're on that topic actually, the God left one saying in defense of cowboy bebop, because we're talking about the live action adaptation and how sort of trepidacious we are of

the whole idea. In defense of Cowboy Bebop, it wasn't popular in Japan because of the way Japanese media industry works. It's all about marketability. In Japan, there's a massive consumerist culture. If you like a show, you support it by buying action figures and other merch. This is why Cowboy Bebop didn't do well in Japan. It wasn't very marketable. The ships, though iconic, are treated like shit by the show. The cast is likable, not because of their design slash poses, but their personalities and characters. Also, Cowboy Bebop was actually critically received very well in Japan, kind of like the Japanese equivalent of Blade Runner 2049, I guess. And so when it was ported over to America,

it saw instant popularity because we in the West consume media in a very different way. As for it being unadaptable, I would disagree. Cowboy Bebop is heavily inspired by iconic live action directors like Tarantino and John Wu. Unlike many anime, the actual world and physics is always grounded. So the only thing that couldn't be preserved in a live action adaptation is the tone and humor of the show. So I personally am not optimistic but neutral. You could really go either way. The adaptation is being done by competent successful directors, sorry, by competent, successful directors, and cast who are all fans of the original series. It is possible to make a live action cowboy bibop. This is the team that could pull it off. That said, Firefly is pretty

much a spiritual successor to Cowboy Bebop so I don't see the need for a live action series when we already have one. He said the only thing you can't transfer over was the humor and like he said the only thing you can't transfer over the only two things, the biggest things

about Cowboy Bebop that I like is the style on the humor. That's the whole thing of that show for me. I just don't think you could make it look as good as that. animated form i saw um i was just going for youtube and one of my recommendations was like one of the fight scenes and i was just quickly looking at it and it was just like holy fuck i completely forgot

i'm like i'm desperate to watch it again um it's not on netflix it's not on netflix at least in the uk i think it is to me is like what why does it need a live action i guess it's like a philosophical thing where it's like i find it annoying because it's it's It's only just because it's a valuable, nostalgic IP that it's getting like a Netflix live action adaptation. Yeah. But I mean, it doesn't need it. Yeah, the perfect version already exists. Yeah.

The only thing they can do with it is make it worse. Yeah. So that is the only direction they can go. Yeah, you can. So what's the point? Just to a shot for shot. Yeah. And even then, it's still worse.

No matter what they do, it's worse. so what is the point it's like media isn't credited in the West unless it's live action I mean yeah yeah and that shit's lame

just watch the the Chinese cartoon I think but you can say that a lot about the director who actually did Cowboy Bebub a lot of his stuff is kind of it is like that but it's not supermarketable

like McCrose Plus incredible movie movie with a way he mash his genres and just yeah well cowboy viewbots one i watched it around the same time as either i did as well and i immediately connected with that a lot more yeah um but it has been a long time it's it's i'm ready for a rewatch on that i think i'll get a lot more out this time um but they have one more thing to say also for james ed isn't in the show yet because they're only adapting the first few episodes i got introduced around seven to eight episodes in um which is true Was Ayn that early on?

I think Ayn was with Ed, if I remember correctly. I might have forgotten, but I just remember Ed and Ein. That was like a big... Ed definitely comes in later. Yeah, yeah, and I do remember that. I just thought Ayn is as well. Like, Ayn and Ed are together on the planet. I could be wrong.

But it would just be weird if Ayn does come in later on, but they're just having Ayn from the beginning. Yeah, I can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember before. I cannot remember. I just, I hope it's good, but it's just like it won't be as good as the original. So. Yeah.

If it somehow is like equal or better, I... We've not lost anything. We've only gained. Yeah. Yeah. We don't lose or win in this. I'll eat my hat. If it's better.

Don't watch the low of action before watching that animated one there. Please. What if I have a lot of action? no option. Sheldman 5 underscore says this. What do you guys think of Jungle's new album loving in stereo? I'm curious as since it's come out, I've seen Alex and Jamie listen to it on Spotify and haven't yet heard their opinions on it.

I personally think it's their best album yet. I could agree with that. I'm into it. I really listened to it today, actually. Hmm. I like it. It's creepy. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I liked it when I listened to it.

It's, it's, it's just the jungle thing. I feel like the best jungle album will be the one you heard first. Yeah, I can agree with that. Because, is it, they, when you first hear them, they've got this, like, fresh new sound that you feel like you've never heard before. Yeah. And then, you just keep listening to their stuff, and it's like, oh, it, once you've heard one album, I feel like you've heard all of them. I'd say the first

album and this one is better than the one in the middle yeah I honestly I never listen through the second jungle album all the way through they're interesting to me because they

there's two guys that make the albums or whatever but they they don't do the vocals on it they get like a group to do the vocals um

just vocal yeah I think it's a cool idea it's like it's like if people were like Darth punk making music but instead of using technology they're using people

and instruments and I think that that is a showcase of talent yeah you know I like it a lot but yeah there's just nothing that screams at me

like you need to listen to this more I find them like quite summery sort of breezy Yeah easy listening Easy listening Yeah I like jungle as well A very good genre of drum and bass

Too busy Ironing Be serious it's a general of drama I know Absolute bonkers mate Says does Alex still get angry emails From Jimmy Neutron fans For disliking the show

not Jimmy Neutron fans Jimmy Neutron sucks though Oh yeah horrendous Jimmy Neutron To be honest If I'm gonna get an email from the fans of anything It's either Sonic or My Little Pony Those are the two constants

But they're constant in like everything For everyone so it's like It's not unique canned man sand has a penultimate one here hey job boys after James mentioned his issues with stumbling while walking I was wondering if he's ever considered dyspraxia as a cause I recently discovered I was dyspraxic after years of struggling with crappy motor skills can barely walk in a line without stumbling

and a speech impediment I feel dyspraxia is a neurodivergency that's often unknown and overshadowed by ADHD slash autism many people end up going undiagnosed having a good day, lads. I've never thought of it. I think, you know, growing up, I had... Shut up, bro. This is a vulnerable moment for me.

Like, I don't know how to put it this way, but, like, I had problems growing up, and my parents never seemed to do anything about it. So I don't know. I'm pretty sure I have something along those lines I can't use

knife and forks properly I can't I can't I can't use them at the same time it's impossible I can't do star jumps you can't do a star jump try to do a star jump now

jumping jacks go in the front and give it a try I'm not trying I'll please no you're gonna edit this so you can edit this so you can edit it out if it's really that bad No, this is a vulnerable moment You stop embarrassing me

No, you shouldn't be embarrassed I generally can't do I can't do star jumps I can't use a knife and fork at the same time Because Your brain won't let you No, it can't even mean to explain It's just like

If I hold them both in my hands It's like if I want to cut I take the knife, put it in this hand cut And then stop it over I like this doesn't work this side of my body is just fucking useless and like I asked you earlier today about when you were learning to drive

yeah I was just like when I because I learned to drive first on a motorbike and it's just like I'd get the left and whites one constantly and it's just like my the instructor would be like okay James take the next left and I'm like just kick the one way because I'll tell you what it makes fucking playing Apex Legends a goddamn nightmare

no no it does James, there's a squad on our left, and then he's just running off to the right. I literally did that yesterday. Yeah, and then you blame me for making the wrong call-outs. I probably do. It's like... That's why I've got to use north or south east or waste.

That's why I do do that. And even then I'll be like, what the fuck? What are you on about, baby? No, I probably... The reason I was lurfing for the record was because I was just going to say something nasty. You can say something nasty. I was going to say James isn't this

dyspraxic he just doesn't try hard enough damn I know I probably have something yeah I reckon you do I don't know what else it could be yeah no it probably is that it's like my parents just never

noticed that those those issues it's like I never got a diagnosis and I never got support for it it's like oh it's clearly obvious James doesn't either use a knife and fork so let's just not teach him or help that. Just like the story of my life.

Maybe you are ADHD. Autistic dyspraxic. And a huge dick. I don't know. It's like I need just need to find out all that stuff. And it's just like, how'd you go about being like a 25 year? I'd be like, yeah. How do you get diagnosed for it?

Yeah. You just webmd. It's just like what? That is the safest way to get a diagnosis for anything. And it's less time consuming. Don't have to go to the fucking GP and be like, oh, this is what's going on. And then they have like a seven-month waiting list.

And they'll be like, oh, you're dysprax it. Seven month? Fucking five years, bro. It's like, doesn't help me. So I still can't use nine before. If you want to see a therapist on the NHS for fucking 25 years, wait. Don't bother me. point. Yeah, we can get you in when you're 55 years old, maybe.

Private health care won't work either, fun. Let's send on this one. From the Dane TB99. What do you guys think about motorcycles? Have you ever ridden any or want to get into them? I know James said he used to ride one in older episodes. What bike did you ride and will he ever get back into it? I got my first bike around two months ago and got an M-T-O-3, which unfortunately, was stolen. Just bought a K-TM Duke 390 and have been absolutely loving it. My dream

bike is an M-T-O-7 and hopefully I can get one within the next few months. I love riding so much and think it's benefits. My mental health so much, I'd highly recommend it. I'm just, I do recognize those bike names. I know what it would be. I've been watching Sons of anarchy, so. Would you ever buy a bike? No. You're someone I could never see you riding a bike. It's just not my style. yeah I know I well I am a biker

you know I've been a biker I've crashed bikes multiple times I've done stupid shit on my bike injuries which I still the scar's still there it's still and it's still

my ligaments are still fucked still living with that mistake but it's like I would love to get back on a bike because there's there's a level of freedom

that you will never experience but in a car because it's your like there's a reason I always drive my windows down because on a bike you have that airflow all the time

and it makes you feel more vulnerable and that more alert I feel for me I'd love to but there's this thing called having to do a test and I'm not doing a test again

I fucking did my driving licence I don't have the effort Yeah I get it I ride my little bicycle around I'm like yeah I can imagine this really fast, being awesome. But I'm fine at, like, the fucking 15-mile-an-hour I'm going. I don't need any more speed.

Bikes, no, cars will never be as fun as bikes. Because when you get down and you get to, like, you're speeding, you get hunch down a bit and you go on the corner, they're fucking liberating. And they're incredible. The only one I could ever imagine is one with a little side seat with argue and with goggles on. Okay, Paisley with the goggles on. Yeah, yeah, that's better.

But the problem with bikes, and it's a thing you've always got to think about is you will leave home one day and you might not come back. And that is just depressing because a car will not see you and you're gone. That's a horrible reality that I had to live with. I could go to work this day and I might never see anyone ever again. You go to that junction. It's what you can say about just getting in a car. There are so many car crashes.

No. Because if a car pulls out of you You're usually fine You obviously have better chance In a car, the likelihood is if a car pulls out in front of you They're the one that's going to get seriously injured On a bike You're flying off the bike

Like You're on a bike, you're poaching that junction What's going through your mind Is this it? Will it pull out? That's all what goes through your minds that video um it's like from 2012 i think you i think i i think i you yeah i think it's the same one where this guy it's just a a car pulls out he goes flying and that's it he yeah he's just

striding his bike just chilling some fucking asshole just pulls out and that's it just gone it's depressing hmm scary so that's that's why like i don't want to go near bike because i don't think it's probably the safest thing for me but surely that's part of like the lure. Yeah. Where it is like just freedom on the roads with the speed you get from

you're just like riding an engine basically. Yeah. And that's incredible. Maybe it's just like... Yeah, I get it. I do get it. But bikes are also unbelievably convenient.

Traffic champ. Just drive past it all. Just that that is I just remember going to the horrible roundabout in like chippin'em and it's just like yeah, fuck all of you. Boom, get to work instantly.

That's so, if you're living in a city, especially. Yeah. It's like, why wouldn't you own a bike? Yeah. And that's the biggest upside, and it's just like sometimes those bikers are passing, and I'm just sitting there and traffic like, I envy you. Mm-hmm. But at the same time, people love nicking bikes.

Yeah, the commenter said it himself. Yeah. Bikes, if you've got a bike. Are they that easy to steal? Oh, yeah. In London, they will just, they will bring a bike. power drill a saw well and they will just fucking grind away your lock and drive off they will do it in a imagine we don't need a key to get it started well yeah no they'll just

they don't because they're bikes they're not the most security so they they they just yeah it's like gtia you just get on a bike and it works it's just like imagine when we walking on london they could just nicked a bike quite in front of us and nobody will do anything 20 grand bike that's how they're next London biker gangs I guess you kind of have to have a garage you can store it in or something yeah that's the thing you and it's you don't want to be leaving a bike out in the brain all the time because it's like when the other downside of biking is that

you go to work and you've got to take all of your gear off your leather trousers because you shouldn't ride a bike if you haven't got the leather trousers hence why I've got a huge scar and fuck ligaments in my leg because I didn't Yeah, you took it seriously after that. Yeah, I was like fucking pop a boots and everything. That's a minor injury compared to what can happen. Skin and gray fin and all that. And it's like...

Yeah, because friction is a motherfucker. Dude. Genes, they're gone. No, in it jeans, they're gone. As soon as you hit the floor, the jeans, you're naked. That's pretty much it. Yeah, if you're sliding along concrete, you're going at such speed.

Yeah, it just burns and then jeans gone. what's next flesh your skin skin's gonna go quicker than fucking jeans yeah it's fucking flesh like ooh-oh so that's gone don't bikers understand that more than anyone there yeah but but you still I ride past people sometimes and they'll

be on a bike and they'll be shorts and no gloves on and it's just like I'm like I hate seeing that it's just like you're gonna fuck up and you are going to be disfigured like why we're wearing shorts you could be going like 30 and you come off that thing your skin is fried you will be in a hospital

for fucking months you won't be able to go to work and you could you could cause big issues for your family if you're like the yeah but um our mum was a nurse back in the day and she says some of the worst injuries you saw was from

bike accidents yeah that like straight up limbs hanging by a thread and shit yeah yeah yeah but saying that I do quite want a bike I do I think they're I think they're fucking cool.

No, bikes are incredibly cool. I don't really give a shit about the, like, the utility of it, how handy it is to not have to worry about traffic. It's just like, that shit looks cool, and I want it. It's just symbolic for freedom, too. Yeah, yeah. I see, like, Keanu Reeves into bikes. Of course he is.

I want to be into bikes. Like, Brian Reynolds is into bikes, of course. Just jumping on. If Ryan Reynolds is into bikes, then I'm not into bikes on it. If you're generally safe and you're actually not an idiot on a bike. bike, you can, like, never have issue. It's like, you wear the proper gear, proper helmets, like, don't skimp out. I wore jacket, fucked up, and now I have the boots, I have the trousers, gloves.

Do you think there are some people that just, like, push it a bit too far? They get too confident. Yeah. And that's when the accidents happen. Yeah, no, shut up. That's one corner. And in there, you're on a bike with tires like that big. You're tilting on tires, for fuck's sake.

Get too confident, and it's just going, you're sliding up. But I think you should get a bike I do want to It's just that A bike's typically cheaper than cars Fuck yeah Buy a lot What about insurance?

Most of time yeah You can pick up a just a decent bike For not that much money It's only the top end stuff And it's like Like compare a top end bike That will fucking destroy a 200k car No fucking problem

And it's like a 20 grand bike they're fast there's nothing faster than them yeah but you don't have the utility of like a car and being able to take people but you can go fast and that's all the methods

when I'm on a bike yeah that's what you value I mean you can get like bikes that cruisers where they're not speed they just look cool and they're just sensible yeah it's the cruiser that I want

I think they look the coolest when you get like a nice jacket and a nice sick helmet you just look sick if surely like if you're driving or you live somewhere where the temperature is quite hot. Surely that's miserable. Oh, yeah.

I remember one of the days, this was like five, six years ago. It was like the hottest day of the year. It was probably like 30 degrees and I was stuck at the roundabout because I couldn't go. And it was just like, I was like thinking like,

I'm gonna fucking pass out. This is excruciatingly painful. Yeah. Because remember a bike jacket is not one layer. It's like five fucking layers. It's heavy duty. Yeah, I'm padded. Yeah, so I'm like sitting there.

Like, my fucking body is just liquid. I'm a slimy, liquid mess. And it was just like... Then did you have to go to work afterwards? I was on my way back from work, so I was exhausted and it was just like, just please fucking move, please move. Because, like, your fingers get all gungy as well. So it's like, you're just trying to, like, do shit.

You mentioned that time the opposite, where it was in winter and you didn't have gloves. Oh, my God. And you're riding a fucking motorbike. No, riding a motorbike in fucking ice. So it was like, I was shitting myself that I could die any minute because I'm just going to slide off. And I was so fucking cold that was just like Yeah my fingers aren't the white color anymore

So I had to like stop and like Heat them up I'm like exhaust like a fucking hour Jesus Christ It's like it's a type of cold Where you want to cry Because it's that excruciatingly painful Yeah I've done

I associate that with them riding bicycles To like secondary school Yeah imagine that times 10 Horrible Yeah because you got that extra speed So it's just more coldness Being blasted into your hands Yeah like I've done

I've crashed I've done stupid shit on bikes I've done I've ridden in extreme heat and extreme cold I've done it all I'm still sick as fuck though it is

he's sick but I just advise if you care about your life then just don't think twice of bikes you care about you I like how you told me five minutes ago

get a buck It's all coming out today Well you just quit smoking You might as well add another thing that's equally dangerous Yeah true maybe that's what I need Damn I'd say we're at the end here lads Pretty chunky episode

A monkey episode We barely even talk We didn't talk about monkeys at all Ha.