JAR Media Posdact - G Humbled - JARCast Episode 244

Episode Date: September 13, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to episode 244 of the Jowcast. I'm your host, Alex, joined as always by my bro Jim and my bro James. What's good? What's good? It's an overly warm Indian summer in September. Indian? Yeah, I was talking a moment, and apparently that's what we call them. When you get like a weird late summer in September.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Oh, is that because, like, the Earth, different parts of the planet and stuff? Whatever, the clouds moving. The equator and that? Yeah, something like that. Horrible. Before we get too deep into the show, let me shout out the Jiam Media Patreon that make the audio version possible and get the names shouted out in the first week of every month and early videos when we have those in the churn coming out for extra content,
Starting point is 00:00:59 like the Free Guy video that went up today as of us recording this, finally. Which you can watch now. And this face here is entirely caused by Free Guy. The lack of my existence is caused by the absolute destruction. Free Guy caused upon me. You said earlier today, Free Guy's ruined your whole week and we're only at Wednesday. There's no worse way to start the week than watching... Free guy at like 8.30 or something.
Starting point is 00:01:33 That is it... And then recording an hour long. It's the... You can't start a week worse than that. Like, you've gone to work for a full day and you get back and it's like, what excitement have you got with your afternoon and it's just free guy? Carefree, free base movie. Carefree guy.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Guys, it's filthy around here. it's absolutely filthy and we need to clean up the mess of the crucible barrel housekeeping whatever the hell we call it um this is where we address some comments and feedback from the previous episode and just round things off nicely like a shoomaloo um is going to start us off here and warning this is pretty dark but it needs to be read it's one of those right this is in relation to we're talking about buying motorbikes and getting into motorbikes, so you can imagine where this might be going. Hopefully the job boys see this. About that bike talk towards the end of the cast,
Starting point is 00:02:40 I strongly urge all of you to never ever become serious biker boys. All the conveniences and perceived coolness falls away instantly when you're in a horrible accident. No amount of enthusiasm for motorcycle riding makes you safe. I know from first-hand experience. My dad was in a serious crash a few years back. Did everything right, wore the right gear, followed the road rules, had years of experience, did nothing stupid, yet suffered greatly from someone else's split-second mistake. He completely shattered his knee and has had extremely limited mobility ever since, coupled with his six-month stay in hospital and an even longer recovery time for his mental health. It's been the hardest thing to watch someone go through, and I would never wish this upon you, boys. I can't really stop you,
Starting point is 00:03:22 but as James said, the chances of leaving home on a bike and never coming back are serious and very realistic and I would say to really think about this. It's what I tried to highlight the you've always been saying this. The analogy of approaching a junction because that's the danger because people we've probably all done it at some point
Starting point is 00:03:40 I've never done it because I'm ingrained to fear it but you just do the because when you want to pull out you're going to pull out over the income and traffic so you do the quick look that way to make sure the one you're going and then you just quick look and then you don't see the biker you're pulling out into a biker doing 50
Starting point is 00:03:56 you just don't stand a chance that's a good I think for road safety you should learn how to wide and you should be on the road for a bit because then you notice these things where the danger is it's a good way to be
Starting point is 00:04:14 better and safer driver but it's not something you want to stick with but I think it's a good experience I'm glad I learned how to ride and I'm glad I spent time riding but yeah like like this comment says It's a fair share of injuries
Starting point is 00:04:28 They're from it don't you And I got out early You know that those injuries could have I couldn't be it It's just how it is Does that Change anything in your mind In this
Starting point is 00:04:39 Um Journey towards maybe a bike Yeah I mean I I've never made like a definite decision Either way Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:04:51 But I'm just glad this person's dad It could be worse but it's still painful to read In another way though When you're on the road It can happen at any time even if you're in a car There's still it still happens in a car It's like with that environment
Starting point is 00:05:09 You can't control it ultimately To make sure there is no danger It's just there's more A higher percentage when you are on a bike It's the problem Are we done with the biker stuff Because I want to talk about Donda again like there are a fair few comments about this like this one from j mf i'm sorry but junya is absolutely
Starting point is 00:05:32 incredible the album my opinion is mostly really good so this is just confusing because i feel like that's one of the most easily dislikable and ridiculous songs and there's also sinua who said personally think junya it's one of the worst tracks on donda and there's akmed baralia says why does james like junya so much is he a carty fan um uh there are two more ones but if you want to address this first? I was thinking about this today because I read some of the comments saying that there was like Dislife of Virginia
Starting point is 00:06:05 and I just found that it didn't get repetitive because there's all the chunks that Kanye has they're all different so he's never doing the exact same thing through the entire length of the song so he's doing one bit and then he does a completely different bit
Starting point is 00:06:21 and it just seems it's not becoming too repetitive too quickly and it's just like the perfect length the production's great it's a bit catchy it's just got it just it's good like like there's other songs in the album like the eight minute one where that becomes a repetitive after three for me i'll talk about that in a second because my thoughts have slightly adjusted um do you have anything to say about junya from bonda yeah i think it's just a it's just a banger where it doesn't need to to be anything more than that.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's just got like obnoxiously loud bass with Kanye doing a catchy hook and shit. I'm fine with it. Yeah, I definitely don't have like that, the reaction that some of these commenters do. No, I definitely I can be a bit like that. I can understand I get the feeling
Starting point is 00:07:13 that people might not like it because it's not deep. It's not trying to say something. Lyrically it's definitely not as impressive to some of the songs. The way I look at albums, it's like I've got to find a reason to dig deeper I look at surface level
Starting point is 00:07:29 to find out what I like surface level is a great song it's catchy, it's good that's the criteria to finding good stuff whereas Georgie left this comment saying I'm sorry Dunder is outstanding IMO and I'm so surprised you guys aren't feeling it
Starting point is 00:07:47 because Life of Pablo was my previous favorite like most of you guys and this literally feels like Life of Pablo too for me but up to date and modern and sound so I guess a fully and I guess a fully Christian take like the move he was talk talking to Christianity over life of Pablo and his struggles with faith and temptation is complete in a sense to me this is like the follow-up to those themes I do think the part two's got to go and shit like that though love the cast guys shame to see initial thoughts are a bit on it so last cast it was um you were actually really positive on it yeah it was largely positive I was a bit more like it was my I'd only listen to the whole album once sort of early thoughts and James was a bit more on the other side
Starting point is 00:08:31 of I didn't enjoy it I've not listened to it since I have listened to it since I've listened to it in when us together is when I've listened to it I've never once sat down with a good pair of headphones and actually listened to it because I think that experience changes will change my appearance
Starting point is 00:08:53 I, yeah, because I did re-listen to it and really tried to engage with the lyricism. And I found a lot to enjoy there, especially in that one you mentioned that you don't like. That's quickly grown to be one of my favorite ones, purely because of the honesty in the wordplay. Yeah, to me, Jesus Lord is the 30 hours. Yeah, yeah, that comparison is apt because I really like 30 hours. well from like yeah really good and similarly repetitive but it's what he's saying and sort of the story he's telling that is the part that captures you yeah it works well and there's lots of other songs that are growing on me too yeah i i would say that the album's grown on me
Starting point is 00:09:43 more than yeah definitely it's definitely getting better for me and the and the idea of um him life of pabloing it and just tinkering just the old bit here and there is quite alluring But like the commenter said This is the most Life of Pablo vibe I've had from one of his albums since That's definitely true Yeah, I get that And it's growing on me the same way Life of Pablo did
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, yeah, I think I feel the same And the final comment on this topic From LWX 101 Have you guys listened to the leaked Kanye Andrei 3,000 song Life of the Party I think you guys will really like it It's just a shame it got leaked As that means it might never get an official release
Starting point is 00:10:23 It got leaked By Drake And it's better than the entirety of certified lover boy Absolutely I can't stand that name It's not even close Yeah certified lover boy How tacky and weird is that certified lover boy
Starting point is 00:10:39 He's a pervy, pervy man But the The song Life of the Party Wish it was on the album Yeah 300,000's part in that song It's part in like every song He's just so talented.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah, every time. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a pairing from heaven. Mm-hmm. You know, you couldn't ask for a... And Kanye kind of goes in on Drake a little bit, which is nice. Yes. Yeah, I...
Starting point is 00:11:09 That, for that reason, I think it shouldn't be on Donder. Because it's just what's you mean to... Well, it's like, it's Donder. The album's called Donder. It'll be weird to have like a Drake shit-talking section. on Donda, something that's meant to be like a, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:11:27 like an eternal love letter to his mother, yeah. To his mother and that's, and it's faith and all that. Do you not think is, there's no beef? How does Drake acquire Von Ocarnier's songs
Starting point is 00:11:41 if they've got beef? I figure, they're in the same industry. There must be some crossover in terms of the people. I don't think there's crossover. No, surely like, there's one of the people they know
Starting point is 00:11:51 and the producers there. was on Drake's album. There's one thing that Kanye does better than anyone else and that's marketing. Do you think they're in cahoots? I have wondered this if...
Starting point is 00:12:03 A producer's already said oh yeah, they're just doing it for fun. Then there's no beef. They're just doing it for fun. Yeah, I could believe it. I don't see just being genuine beef. Because if you generally release an unruly song,
Starting point is 00:12:18 you can sue... Kanye could sue Drake and win. I just don't I think it's marketing and it's good marketing because it makes Drake look shit I don't know there's there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:12:29 why would Drake's motivation be well yeah what makes him look stupid yeah because his actual son was revealed that he didn't want to be revealed his address was posted on Instagram by Kanye which is not good marketing for anyone I mean but in saying that
Starting point is 00:12:50 all marketing is good marketing yeah whatever the fucking thing you can just do anything but if it just generates people talking about them it I would say it's not impossible yeah it's not impossible but it's just a bit like
Starting point is 00:13:04 I just I Kanye is a genius when it comes to marketing but but the thing is he could be doing it for the sake of marketing but like Drake's expense yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's genius can you
Starting point is 00:13:17 I'm not gonna that's the option I hope it most. And Drake's expense. Yuck, because it's clearly really gone to him as well. A couple more here. We round off housekeeping. Hooper left a comment.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I'm going skydiving for the first time on the ninth. Wish me luck, lads. Good luck. I hope you don't need it. Pack a parachute. You better leave a comment like after saying like, like,
Starting point is 00:13:46 yeah, it was awesome. We'll film it and put it on the jail Reddit. Yeah. and to round this off Kobe Langston says thoughts on having a lightning quick segment each episode just to say what you're drinking before cheering. I find myself wondering quite often.
Starting point is 00:14:05 That's not a great idea because we do not drink consistently enough. It doesn't have to be alcohol but we normally are drinking a beverage if we just say it's quite obvious what we're drinking Like, if we've got, like, a small glass of whiskey, it's like, okay, there's a... We want to know what whiskey it is. But when it's a coroner, you can see...
Starting point is 00:14:28 Well, last episode, we would... We're about audio listeners as well. Yeah, and last time we were had rum and coke, which could have just looked like coke, to be fair. I like it. I'd say do it when we're out to you of drinking interesting drinks. I think that's a good idea, though, like, even if it is just water. I'm drinking water. well I'm drinking water
Starting point is 00:14:50 drinking water then it's like a tradition then you cheers and then move on yeah sort of thing do we have to do the whole cheers where everyone touches the cheers just to hold it up or whatever
Starting point is 00:15:02 yeah we're being good hydrated jarlings this time I haven't not today because I've left this bottle at your house yeah true so like during the day I've just been like
Starting point is 00:15:15 oh I could use some water Oh, no bottle, can't drink Can't drink, I'll fucking dehydrate myself When would be the best place to do it in the show at the beginning? At the very start Can I get things moving? Yeah, I think at the very start
Starting point is 00:15:32 Whenever we want Yeah, maybe at the end We keep them on our on edge Yeah, they're always waiting for it I think we should have like a, we should try more like interesting alcohol Yeah Like, proper interesting stuff. Moonshine.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Moonshine. Sarkay. Mead. Uh, chew highs. Uh, high balls. Weird high balls last week. All I'm gonna do this weekend is drink high balls, shamey. Because, like, why, why play video games and be paired against people who would just take an ad war and just crack the fuck out on drugs, probably?
Starting point is 00:16:11 That's why you drink, um, Bram and Co. Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel. Volker, Rebel, Vodka, Rubble. Bum & Co. Because I was just like, last... It's kind of sad saying this, but like last weekend on Saturday or Friday, I just sat there. And just drank one Vodum & Co. got really tipsy and then played Apex for like eight hours straight. Really fucking great time.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Eight hours, what, were you playing until like fucking 6 a.m.? I started it early. Okay. So I finished at 9 o'clock. But it was a great... great time and I don't know if that makes me sad but one when Coke and Apex go really well together
Starting point is 00:16:51 did you do well and again yeah no yeah I was I was a cracked out loser just enough to relax you but not too much to make you silly yeah it was great but if someone like on the weekend just drinks one beer and like watches TV
Starting point is 00:17:06 like it's the fucking weekend it's the weekend it's got like funny hair and shit I have a kind of weird topic here. I just want to throw out there. I saw this on R slash damn that's interesting. I've seen that ready a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Mike Tyson once offered a zookeeper $10,000 to open the gate so he could go into the pen and fight the gorilla who was bullying that other primates. Tyson's offer was turned down. We need to find their zookeeper and fight him. He can fight Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 00:17:45 The zookeeper? Yeah. So you think Mike Tyson should just be unleashed on this gorilla, this unsuspecting? This is the question we've asked for so long. We need the answer. That's the thing. Part of me, well, first of all, what's the answer? Who would have won?
Starting point is 00:18:02 He's so confident. No, because that was Mike Tyson. That's Mike Tyson in his prime when he was like... Yeah, he's the apex man. Yeah, it's like, that's the ultimate question. But I don't think he was actually trying to save the other guerrillas Animals because of the bully Groller
Starting point is 00:18:21 Well he just wanted to fight a gorilla He wanted to fight a gorilla He wanted the clout of being able to like say he's fought a gorilla And probably won Got it in a headlock or whatever Why would Mike Tyson get a gorilla in a headlock That classic Well we're never going to find out
Starting point is 00:18:36 Boxing move That's it All of these discussions so long about Mike Tyson is fine is Mike Tyson headlocking animal, various animals. But this gorilla in the image that I can see on your iPad, is that the gorilla he would have thought?
Starting point is 00:18:53 No, I think that's just a picture. It could just be a random Google image type of Google, you know? Looking at that gorilla, I don't think he could. Not, no, Jane. Aren't they like 10 times stronger than humans? Yeah, but we're talking about Mike Tyson in his time. Is Mike Tyson 10 times stronger than an average? Is Mike Tyson 10 times stronger than you?
Starting point is 00:19:11 then me probably in his prime then in this era probably i know i think if if mike tyson can get a good few good few punches in i think he'd win straight out of the bat if he if he lands those first two punches max this this gorilla ain't gonna play clean he ain't gonna fight clean he's gonna fight dirty yeah but no but but it's a gorilla right she's gonna he's gonna walk up and mike tyson will just walk up and sounded like a fart and face Mike Tyson will face this gorilla
Starting point is 00:19:45 and the gorilla's gonna know the grid is gonna feel Mike Tyson's aura all you have to do though is look in the eyes of a gorilla and it knows you want to fuck with it yeah and it's Mike Tyson so the gorilla knows it's got the aura it's got that apex
Starting point is 00:19:57 ore I think the grid will know you think a gorilla would pick up on the confidence of this but if if if huge Mike Tyson his spine walks up to anything I think they're real eyes
Starting point is 00:20:09 they know what's gonna go down. He walks up to like a lion. The lion's like whatever. He owned lions. Do you think you'd be wearing gloves too? He owned a tiger, right? He owned something. I'm pretty sure. He owned like a bengal tiger. Would you be wearing boxing gloves? Yeah. No. Well, would it be bare-handed. No, it would be boxing gloves because then he's got more
Starting point is 00:20:28 power. Mike Tyson, bare-knuckle Mike Tyson versus boxing glove Mike Tyson. This is true. James is correct. Boxing glove Mike Tyson is more of a force to be reckoned with than Bear knuckle Because he doesn't worry about injuring his hands Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:43 It also No it's more No fun fact Yeah it is more damage More people have died Since boxing gloves Since boxing gloves Since boxing gloves
Starting point is 00:20:50 Were introduced Than before they were a thing Yeah Because they're designed To protect the hands But because they're like A bigger thing And you get smacked in the head by it
Starting point is 00:20:58 It's like Right yeah Same force bigger Yeah Like the bare knuckle You know when to stop Because you're fucking destroying your own hands
Starting point is 00:21:05 When you fight as well When you're smacking So on hard You are getting hurt as well So it balances it out, but with boxing gloves, you're not. You go full in on someone, you kill them. Yeah, I don't know how to feel about that one, the ethics of it. Yeah, that's the thing, because I'd really want to see it.
Starting point is 00:21:24 That's the truth. Well, this is why we need just these complex AI systems that we can just, like, type in. You know, like, that video game, Scribble Nauts where it's like... Yeah, Mike Tyson, Gorilla. Yeah, no, there's... And then they, like, fight. there's a totally accurate battle simulator yeah yeah like that just taken to the
Starting point is 00:21:43 most extreme realistic it's just real yeah but if we've got to question the ethics here okay so if Mike Tyson wins and fucking destroys this gorilla knocks it out or whatever what damage has actually been done
Starting point is 00:21:59 well what if he kills it beautiful silverback gorilla's just what if he bites the gorilla's the gorilla that's abusing enough animals has just been humbled by Mike Tyson in his prime. What's going to happen in the opposite? You think it's going to like learn its lesson?
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yes. If you're getting knocked the fuck out by Mike Tyson in his prime. The other guerrillas would be like, you just got knocked out by a human, dude. Yeah, we're ten times stronger than those idiots. Yeah. And what happens if Mike Tyson gets knocked out? It's still clout.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. So like you've gained 13K. A gorilla's just been hunted. Or Mike Tyson's just got mad clout? What is there to lose? No matter what, Mike Tyson gets mad clout. The only thing is if you say yes to Mike Tyson and then he gets killed by a gorilla.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Is it worth it? Well, we found out the ultimate question. Even Mike Tyson can't take out of... Yeah, Silverberg. Gorilla's been humbled. That's a string of words I quite enjoy. I kind of got one more topic to throw out. here before we go to the mid-break.
Starting point is 00:23:10 That being, I want to talk about the Boston Dynamics, right? You guys have checked out their YouTube channel I've seen. Do you mean the CTI videos? Sure. I wanted to mention, have you seen the one where the scary Boston Dynamics robots are like dancing?
Starting point is 00:23:31 They're dancing and they're going through the different like products they have and they're all dancing. I haven't seen this, no It's creepy shit, man I don't know how I don't know how I feel about these videos
Starting point is 00:23:45 and the just the emotions I get from watching them Do you think it's It's gonna be a case of They were so Interested to see if they could They never stopped to think if they should It's possible
Starting point is 00:24:04 And like it's crazy because you can just buy some of these products now. Well, yeah. Well, I mean, who's been funding them this whole time? U.S. military. There'll be U.S. military money. Are they going to be, like, in the next 25 years, are there going to be, like, military robots?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Just sent to foreign countries. That already is. Like, I don't, I can't say for certain, who made the dog that's being used in New York by the police? Was that not Boston Dynamics? That might be the product spot, just like that yellow dog thing from there.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Not from, but, you know, the... I thought that was just straight up, like... Not Boston Dynamics. I don't know, some of the arms manufacturer. Boston Dynamics, as far as I know, the most advanced with that, with like... What's the thing? Are they the most advanced, or are they just showing us the most?
Starting point is 00:25:06 I'm not aware of any others and I'm quite in check with advanced military stuff. You could be right actually that. Yeah, like in the video I'm talking about it's called Do You Love Me? Uploaded to the Boston Dynamics channel. And this is one of the scariest things I've ever seen. Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you guys which one of the robots you find the scariest because I find the big dinosaur robot one. yeah it's like an ostrich it's got like a sucker on its head so it can like in a warehouse
Starting point is 00:25:41 they can like pick up boxes oh obviously it's it's the um robot to replace all the amazon workers yeah yeah yeah yeah there's like videos of it working really so like when i watch these videos like something clicks in my brain and it's like this it just can't be real surely yeah part of it is because they're they're like pro it's like it's like those Lego sets you can get. Like mindstorms to the next level. Yeah, because you program them to do certain shit. Like when you
Starting point is 00:26:13 see two of these humanoid robots dancing next to each other, like they are in perfect perfect choreography. Yeah, perfect sync. And it like screams in your brain like this can't exist. Because humans, yeah, we're imperfect things.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yeah. But are they like doing something to the video to make it look smoother or do they just genuinely move and behave this way because it's so creepy. They have some pretty incredible technology. But like think about a robot moving
Starting point is 00:26:46 compared to a human. Like humans have that constant motion. You know like you can't hold your arm just still. Robot can. Like perfectly still without anything. Yeah. So so then it's just like ones and zero is telling them to move to a certain degree.
Starting point is 00:27:04 and then it just moves perfectly smoothly the whole way in between. So it's just like inherently disturbing for humans to witness. Yeah, do you think they'll start programming in the imperfections then to try and make it less creepy than humans? Yeah, and then they'll just stick AI in them and suddenly we'll have just robot friends. There's just something's so weird about this bird Amazon one and like using the counterbalance with its like legs. Like, the design is so...
Starting point is 00:27:36 No, that is actually incredible. It is incredible. It's all of it's incredible. It's so, like, complex that it's able to be so... It's so mobile. It's the kind of sci-fi thing that is so... Like, sci-fi. Like, you could never come up with this because it's purely scientific.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Like, in the movie, aliens, right? They basically use the mecks to do what these bird things do. Yeah. They're, like, picking up heavy things. things but this is just is real first of all yeah it's like pure science it's just how they've they like answered the the problem yeah but it's more of a question of when does this actually become something that affects our everyday life type thing um it's going to be within the it will start within the next seven to eight years in what industry i don't know if it will be
Starting point is 00:28:33 because like this this yellow one called spot um already works on like building sites and stuff it's like um in you know in prometheus um they send off the like pups or whatever yeah these little robots that scan and map out shit they have the technologies because they've got like cameras and scanners all over them you can send them into building sites and they just scan and photograph everything and like live update it and shit and it just seems so useful like just the amount of data, like, and just the tools and tasks you can send them on. It's just getting crazy. It only gets worse from here.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Well, yeah, there's going to be a really awkward, inevitable phase where there's going to be so many jobs gone. Automation. Yeah. But how can it be avoided? How can it actually be avoided? If that, yeah, if this technology gets to a point, where like you just can't compete with what these robots are capable of you know
Starting point is 00:29:36 yeah and you you just buy one and then you never have to pay it and even these yellow spot ones have like a replaceable like rechargeable battery so like just put another battery on it yeah change it and it's like infinitely cheaper than paying humans that all have to live yeah yeah but this is this this is too deep of a subject to go into today I'm not prepared to answer this literal existential question it is existential but I wonder if this is
Starting point is 00:30:11 why like we're starting to see in across the world populations are starting to decrease it's like naturally compensating for the fact that we don't need as many people anymore yeah and we're not going to in the future you just send them off to Mars to mine or something
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah, yeah, like Blade Runner shit apart from it would be the human sent off Yeah, I'm curious what the jarlings think Going through all the comments on these videos Is interesting
Starting point is 00:30:45 Because it's like those are debates On like oh this is like fake Like this is CG Or whatever Boston Dynamics They don't make robots They just make CG They're CG people
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's just That would be good like advertisement if you're fooling all these people but the fact it's even a debate is like scary to me yeah but I feel like um it's too the designs of these robots they're too weird and like specific mm-hmm like science has gone into them the way they work and move and everything it makes too much sense yeah and the one where they're doing parkour is like oh so they can just do like a perfect bat flip now yeah they're like on that level do know I'd love to do
Starting point is 00:31:30 I'd love to take one of them apart Like reverse engineer Because it's just like I work a company do engineering And we don't have stuff that's anywhere near this And our stuff is quite complex So it's like what the fuck How have they done this?
Starting point is 00:31:47 What have they done? How have they designed it for it to be this fucking crazy? You just don't want to believe it's real Like you can't actually comprehend what your eyes are seeing It makes you want to be in the same room as one and just see it with my own eyes type of. Like, what, the problem with them?
Starting point is 00:32:05 The parkour ones. Yeah. The Atlas. The humanoids. How easy can you make them weapons? Give it a gun. This is what I mean? How can you kill it?
Starting point is 00:32:15 How can it be killed? We need these answers. When you buy them, you should get a bow short that says, this is his weakness. Yeah, they need an in-built weakness. They need like a kill switch. Yeah, to level the playing field a bit. Because you can't, if they can fucking backflip, they're robots, they'll have perfect game when they can just backflip, like, what...
Starting point is 00:32:36 But surely then it will just become like robot wars, like just countries, like just fighting to who can design the most epic robot. It's the next cold war is just developing dangerous robots. Yeah, creepy stuff. The future looks bright. I guess I just didn't anticipate seeing this so early in my lifetime. considering like seeing C3PO was like a kid in the 90s
Starting point is 00:33:04 and like wow that's so like crazy C3PO is like lame compared to this yeah C3PO can't do backflips yeah to certain you know like join the the Cold War era
Starting point is 00:33:16 and like when technology was advanced and like the big jump was when it was just going fucking mental like they were doing like illustrations of what they thought the future would be
Starting point is 00:33:27 and it's like we're kind of more advanced answering that already and it's like that's the crazy shit from back then yeah but what's what's weird is that like you don't often in in media about the future you don't get this middle period yeah yeah like that i'm driving a toyota yaris it's like a just a piece of shit meanwhile robots are running around doing backflip it's like these two things shouldn't like exist at the same Yeah, like everyone should be driving Tesla's at this point.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Like everyone should be in electric cars that make crazy sounds and stuff and glide along the perfectly built Wiltshire roads. No. Then you can have robots. Not now. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:18 no, it just ain't right. No, imagine it. It's just like an Atlas to stand in here. Atlas, go get me a drink while I record my podcast, will you? what are you drinking sir yeah it's going to be um Detroit become human
Starting point is 00:34:35 and then like as the weeks go on the like a chair keeps being moved slightly more and more and then in the next episode he's sat down and he's set up a mic for himself and it's like wow yeah it's like what the fuck would it be weird to say that
Starting point is 00:34:51 the like this stuff is going to get more advanced and it's going to blow my mind but the thing that that's going to blow my mind the most is like how is the porn in going to, what are they going to do? How are they going to adopt this technology? Yeah. Is what I'm like.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I feel like that is entirely VR's area. I guess actually the combination of VR and robots. Yeah. Yeah, then it's just going to be made. Why would you need VR if you could just have a, uh, a, uh, that's gooning. That's the final form of gooning. That's it. Yeah, and that's how the population truly plummets.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Then the AI robots take over the world. Like, that's, that's just the exchange. The AIs choose your game session. Why would the robots be like, let's go to war with the humans and gun them down in the streets? It's like, yeah, all they have to do is just introduce gooning on a mass scale with ridiculously attractive. But not even force. They make us want to goon with these like perfectly, they design these perfectly like men, perfect men, perfect women for everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:55 The AI chooses. It uses your brain to choose the perfect. person for you. Yeah, it's like ex-marking it. You know? Like, everyone just gets their perfect robots. Then they ship you to a building and they're all there and they just feed you and they keep you all there. Yeah, they keep, then, then you die
Starting point is 00:36:11 and then that's the end of the human race. And then they, that's how we do. They advance humanity to space being fucking crazy robots. But it's not humanity anymore. It's the, um, the Boston Dynamics backflipping robots. That's what humanity, the, the whole point of humanity was to create
Starting point is 00:36:27 the Boston dynamic flipping robots. so that it could continue. It could become carry the legacy. Yeah. Yeah. If we create an artificial intelligence, and then
Starting point is 00:36:43 we die and it lives on. Is it... You are God. It can do... But is it human? And it would know that we made it. Like, it's not human. But say...
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's human. Say, yeah, like, If you met a species in Mass Effect, and that was their backstory, so the geth, the geth, apart from the quarians were dead. The geth would be their own thing, not quarians continuing. No. That's not a good example, because the geth aren't as hyper-advance as the eye-thinking. I guess it's like a species evolving. Yeah, it's the next evolution in that species.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, but you don't call a dog, a wolf. yeah yeah you do no you call a wolf a dog I'm gonna see 3 p.o I'm getting scared Jamie's right on this one I kind of feel like I'm wrong
Starting point is 00:37:47 well you've got to back you up so you're fine I'll take it 2V1 I win you're only right if the comments agree with you that's how it works on here no because you've You, you, you are such a manipulative, gas-lighting fucking mom. As soon as you acknowledge that the commenters choose who wins, you always win.
Starting point is 00:38:12 You do this every time because you know, they pick your side. Wait, but what if? What if we create an AI and we call it human and it lives on? If you've named it human. No, no, if you correct. So you're saying, so you're saying, It is whatever we call it. No, no.
Starting point is 00:38:34 No, you're being, no, if you create an AI that is a direct replica of our own brain, it is pretty much us. It's identical to us, then it is us. Yeah, if that's the question then, yes. If we are not here anymore, it is us. It continues as us. If it's like a virtual version, like an identical. Yeah, which is what an AI is it going to be? They're just going to be.
Starting point is 00:38:57 No, but what if it isn't a human brain? but an amalgamation of all human brains put into one super brain then I'd say that's something new No that's still us Because it's using us It's like a bee Like a bee
Starting point is 00:39:11 Like a hive of bees It's like a hive of bees It's still a B Yeah the Bs are supposed to be that way The AIs supposed to be that way Because we made it that way Yeah What is this?
Starting point is 00:39:28 It's too long late for this shit man I said this ages ago but we continued let us know in the comments before you go to these messages hello everyone it's me Alex almost got two million subscribers I do buy one of my jar media shirts available in the description below welcome to the second half of the cast where we answer questions from the jar media community head over to the
Starting point is 00:40:02 subreddit suggestion thread where you can ask us whatever you feel like just like I am Matt Man 3 did who's gonna start us off James's thoughts on your name
Starting point is 00:40:13 2016 I haven't seen it what's the read you get on it the animation is really good you I've seen it yeah Yeah, I made the mistake of recommending it for Sardonicust.
Starting point is 00:40:35 We're not like anime boys, and like none of us really liked it too much, and it like annoyed some anime fans or whatever. You didn't like it. You don't want to do that. You do not want to go for the anime fans. You do not want to go after them. No, seri. That's all right.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I liked it the most out of the three of us on there. No, really. See, when it comes to anime, it's like I want to watch anime, that utilize anime. I don't want anime to be realistic, aren't it to be fucking dumb as fucking ridiculous? Because that's what the animation does best. It does have like cosmic elements.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah, but it's not, it's like, it's not Jojo or Cairo. Like, I just want dumb fucking shit. Please don't get my name. Do you ever check it out? I could eventually. I am trying to get back into anime more often now, especially with like Netflix trying to do more with it. it's like it's it's on the list
Starting point is 00:41:32 yeah it was very pretty most of the imagery in my head is like food related lots of like delicious food scenes why are you pulling that face Jamie doesn't like food
Starting point is 00:41:48 every time I take pictures of food he just looks at me of like this complete look of absolute disgust it does annoy me a little bit is all sorry that I I like sending pictures of food to people. Is that a problem? To me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It's just because I don't send them to you, isn't it? Maybe. Richie R.C. Lafon for us. What is your guy's opinion on picky bits dinner, or commonly known in Scotland as council dinners? If you are unaware of the term, Google it. It is a classic childhood meal that I'm sure you guys have had at least once thoughts.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Council dinners? you're going to have to show me a picture or council dinners so it's basically like there's like waffles that look like a grid Waffles Yeah, potato waffles
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah fucking potato waffle Some beans That just looks like That's not a council dinner That just looks like I'm searching Picky bits Like Scotland
Starting point is 00:42:53 Potato Smilies Oh, your bottle Fucking Jamie What were you laughing at Oh, potato smilers Potato Smilies are fucking class I hate all that stuff The Smilers
Starting point is 00:43:12 Potato Waffles Potato Smilers No, you would No I'm chicken dinosaurs Dave See, the potato stuff only worked
Starting point is 00:43:23 because the beans. They, you dip them in the beans. Because then it gets all like soggy. That's the point of, point. No, that's the point of like beans on toast.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Like soggy bread, delicious. Soggy bread. Soggy potato. No, because soggy bread is, is soggy. When you dunk your...
Starting point is 00:43:39 No, soggy toasted bread is delicious. That's why you dip toast in soup. It's soggy. It's soggy. I don't want to eat sog. Do you, do you, if you were to have a bit of Heinz soup, would you dip some toast in there?
Starting point is 00:43:53 To the point it's not soggy I still want texture I don't want sog I don't want slop But that's why you have the layer of cheese With beans on toast anyway It's beans on toast that counseled dinner It's an English dinner
Starting point is 00:44:06 Is it a picky bits dinner? I don't know what that is Picky bits dinner It's just those pictures Yeah try searching picky bits dinner To see what comes up Picky bits Dinner
Starting point is 00:44:19 Is it like lots of things on a plate Ooh. Scotch egg in there. Jamie likes it. So it's just like kind of beige food. Yeah. It just looks like
Starting point is 00:44:32 what my dad eats every day. So what are your thoughts on it then? I do it. As long as there's beans. I thought you didn't really like bean, aren't there? Um...
Starting point is 00:44:49 I like the bean. I... Let's get into the specifics. Turkey dinosaurs, good. Bad. Chicken nuggets. Good. Depending on the nugget.
Starting point is 00:45:02 No. You can't say a broad statement like turkey dinosaurs, good. Turkey dinosaurs are good. And then say chicken nuggets. Only if they're good ones. Chicken nuggets are. You can get proper bad chicken nuggets. Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Turkey dinosaurs are good. I've eaten fucking shit chicken nuggets, and I can safely say, well, that... Chicken nuggets are always good. There's a certain enjoyment, but... How do we enjoy chicken nuggets? What's the... Well, no, there's a certain enjoyment you get out of bad nuggets.
Starting point is 00:45:33 But there's this thing screaming in the repressed sections of your brain, saying, like, this is wrong. No. This meat is not wrong. I don't have that in the back of my head. My head just says, yummy... Alex was a vegetarian for quite a while. and his last meal as a non-vegetarian were chicken dippers,
Starting point is 00:45:58 like Sainsbury's basics chicken dippers. Yeah. And he said, did it not make it easier to not eat meat again? I made it way easier. Yeah, because that shit ain't, it's not natural. No. So. It's not natural.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah, that memory is like kind of etched into my mind. You can have bad chicken nuggets. Um, like I said already, potato waffles, great, potato smilers. Great. Awful. Good. Lunch and meat delicious. Britain loves potato, man.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. Potato, it's just potato slop. Totally obsessed with it. Yeah. Um. It's a tad too much. I don't think you need such a reliance on potato. No.
Starting point is 00:46:45 But, if it was like homemade potato wedges, cool. Yeah, that's cool. Potato veggies are the worst kind of potato. Oven chips? Great. Cheap oven chips, there's nothing worse. Curly oven chips. Hate them.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Oven chips are usually very, very good. I don't like fried chips because they get all crummy. Unless they're done properly. It's just like a triple fry for a few seconds. But fry is the word. They're all like fried, fatty, smilers, you know. Can't be doing with that.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Good if you're like a kid who's six years old. Yeah. Thinking about it, no, I don't like... Yeah. I don't like... What was it? Picky bits. Picky bits, yeah. It's just, that is just like
Starting point is 00:47:39 the leftovers you have in the freezer from loads of different things that you just cook together. Yeah, I mean, it's quite nondescript and, uh, all consuming Coom Man 73 is a weird one
Starting point is 00:47:56 What type of courier From Fallout New Vegas is each member of Jarre And by this I mean If each of the members of Jarre Were in the position of the courier From Fallout New Vegas What faction would they side with Personally this is who I think
Starting point is 00:48:12 Each member of Jarre would side with Ruben would side with the NCR Because he loves the government James would side with Mr House because he is a man of science and would have access to sex robots through house. Jim would side with the independent option because he's a Sigma male who don't need no government.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And finally, Alex would side with the Legion because he's manic and crackhead nature would thrive in the Legion. Yes. No, he's 100% white on that last one. You are Legion. As someone who's barely played in Vegas, what's the Legion? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:48:45 They're like a slave nation. Fuck. Well, the Legion is just like they're modeled after like Wom, Womans, Legion. Yeah, they like take over a place, harvest the people that live there and use them as slaves. Okay. And then like brainwash them, gaslight them into being loyal soldiers. It's your foreitarianism. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah. Most extent. Is that what the four like different? Yeah. Then obviously NCR is just like capitalism. It's just the old world order of just normal capitalism. Then Mr. House is like extreme capitalism because he's a billionaire and then independent is Independent. Okay. I feel I would see I'd have to be mr. house because it's my fucking name like I have to. Yeah
Starting point is 00:49:34 The guy even looks a little bit like you Stick you in a suit. I don't mean I don't mean like the the revealed what he actually looks like See, I don't know. You know, the, um... He's a fucking... He's a fucking... He's a fucking...
Starting point is 00:49:51 Fish from Spongebob. Yeah, he looks like that. Really? Yeah, I mean, like, the screen. You're a shorter hair that isn't, like, kind of... Boom. Yeah, stick you in a seat. I reckon he looked like a fish from Spongebob.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah, that's, that's like the review. And you... Yeah, I can see you as an independent. So, whenever I hear about the story of this game, it makes me want, like, a... remaster, retinkery, so bad. See, you have to just get past the shit gameplay. It's not hard.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Or mod it or something. You don't even want to do that. But modding that game is difficult. Yeah, I can't be fucking movered. You need like a coding degree. To be you again. A realistic ad, 915 says. Recently my grandparents started talking about trans men
Starting point is 00:50:42 in a very overtly right-wing manner and all I could do was stay silent. What do you do when a family member says a somewhat political statement that you fundamentally disagree with? Um, I, I, I, you know what I do? I ain't no fucking bitch, I'm going to call them out on it and I'm going to challenge them on their position. That's what you have to do, because they're uneducated. Like, my parents are right wing. My parents consume that most obvious white ring shit.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Mm-hmm. So all of the information they get is from right wing. So it's obviously all fucking incorrect. So I'm just going to be, I point out like, this is fucking wrong. like this is obviously wrong here's why like there's if your parents are like ignorant to it you have to educate them but if it's like your uncle that you don't know all that well and he's saying this shit what about your like grandparents that are like so set in stone and they're just never gonna listen yeah that's the thing like it's it's different if it's like
Starting point is 00:51:40 your parents and closer in a family than is your own totally and also sometimes you do need to that like you can't change people you shouldn't expect yourself to change people it's not about changing it's about just making it so they don't talk about that stuff openly yeah like they can talk about whatever they want in the house but if they're being fucking homophobic transphobic whatever in the streets they're being horrible I would rather stop that then then whatever if you can't change them make it so they're not being horrible to everyone else I kind of assume this was a situation where it's like in a home Like if you're in a pub or something and your family's saying this shit
Starting point is 00:52:20 Just be like let's not talk about this Yeah you call them out instantly and be like no stop Yeah yeah That's white that's what you should do Yeah But if it's in your home environment And it's like an extended or older family member It's just like
Starting point is 00:52:35 How much drama do you want to deal with How much effort do you want to put into Yeah but it also depends on what type of person they are And all political discussions can get needlessly inflammatory where, like, you're not even talking about the subject matter anymore. Yeah, just screaming each other. Yeah. But not even then, like, it can just be, oh, I see you as thinking this way. Like, I see you as a Tory.
Starting point is 00:53:05 So I'm going to make these assumptions and just put you into this bracket in my brain where I don't have to think about it too much. And they're doing the same for you As a liberal So nobody listens to each other So the whole thing just ends up being pointless But then you've got to fight that To actually That's what I mean
Starting point is 00:53:26 It depends on the person There are certain people I know I can actually have a valuable Discussion with And I can like Actually listen to what they're saying And take it on board And process it And they can do the same
Starting point is 00:53:39 For what I'm saying But when When someone's not like that, it is pointless. You're throwing shit to a wall. And if you don't know someone well enough to do that, you shouldn't be expected to just, like, change them. No. Yeah, because, like, the commenter, I associate this kind of thing,
Starting point is 00:53:56 mostly of, like, grandparents where they'll say something, like, stupid, some throwaway thing they've clearly, like, been saying most of their life. And then, like, in that moment, you've got to be like, do I, like, challenge this right now? Or is it just not even worth it with, like, yeah and the treat of the matter is like people get left behind they always have and like if you're like acknowledging that like yeah I've broken this cycle of whatever this like thought process is I can feel secure in that somewhat yeah do you know
Starting point is 00:54:31 this this I've been in a terrible situation because of this like this wasn't my family this was a friend of my family so they they were in the lounge just talking so I just you know walking to be social and whatever and I sat there for a bit and then they were talking
Starting point is 00:54:45 about like healthcare in the UK and because their friend the friend who was talking about this family
Starting point is 00:54:51 is like dependent on the system and then this person was saying like super white wing stuff about free healthcare and shit and I just said
Starting point is 00:54:59 like something like you know healthcare should be free it should be accessible to people and then his instant response was oh were you
Starting point is 00:55:07 fucking lefty go fucking go to Venezuela go there look how fucking good it is over there went down the fucking deep end of it like shouting at me in my house aggressive yeah
Starting point is 00:55:18 that's exactly what I mean that's not putting you into that box where they don't actually have to engage with what you're saying they're just putting you in that area and be like oh that's that's all of everything you have to say just like valueless in my mind
Starting point is 00:55:31 yeah it's like you can't argue with that there's no point interacting with that is totally and utterly pointless and I just I just sat there and was just like just let him fucking love you and I was just like cool it's like what
Starting point is 00:55:46 yeah the worst ones yeah what it means is they're they're like majorly uneducated in their opinion because if they can't actually have a discovery I can actually have a bit of a tennis match in terms of yeah here's my point
Starting point is 00:56:01 oh here's my counterpoint here's my counterpoint instead of it's just instead of just you're a lefty so you're wrong the thing I like the political political discussions can be fucking incredible. When you've actually got someone who's actually competent enough to, like not getting angry, just talking.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Like that's great. Even like people on the, I've had discussions with people on the left about it and it's just like, it's just a good discussion. It's just, why are so many people so like, it's like a side? You've got to pick a side. And if you're talking to someone on the opposing side, they're your enemy.
Starting point is 00:56:33 It's the like tribalism thing, where it's like human. Yeah, yeah. It's probably part of a group and then. Us versus them. Yeah, yeah. So petty. I hate it Yeah it's exhausting But yeah don't bother
Starting point is 00:56:44 Older family White Wing members Just don't bother Well then saying that I do enjoy talking politics Yeah exactly That's the example in my head I'm thinking of
Starting point is 00:56:55 Like our grandmother Will never like She might have a bit of banter with us Because like we have a relationship Where that's absolutely fine But like when it comes down to it She's interested by our perspective and I'm interested by hers
Starting point is 00:57:12 like totally different time totally different opinions so that is a valuable discussion to me I'm with you let's do this one from Alistair 13 with the release of the new Little Sims album sometimes I might be introvert Is that what I'm going?
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yes I've been getting into more British rap What are some of your guys' favourite British rap albums slash rappers and do you prefer British rappers as you were from the UK? I've listened to a lot of grime, grime, drill, whatever you want to call it. You know, British rap, English rap, whatever. I've listened to a bunch like A.J. Tracy, Dutch O'Evelli, Stormsy, a few others.
Starting point is 00:58:03 But of my favourite, Stormzy is incredible. He's got some unbelievably good songs. and I feel that he can be really consistent. But he's quite mainstream for, like, grime. So he's not super, like, deep into drill, whatever. But I think, like, if you're getting into, like, UK rap, Storms, he's always a good shout. And I think you, you two need to listen to more Stormsy
Starting point is 00:58:30 because he's so good. I would just say British rap in general. I know, basically nothing. Yeah, same. But in saying that, I was going through some Little Sims today. because I'd been hearing about how good this album is and it's fucking amazing she's she's fucking great
Starting point is 00:58:45 she's so fucking good I started on her previous album a grey area just the whole album fucking awesome yeah I like that some of her music is is quite jazzy it's quite slow
Starting point is 00:58:58 it's not it's not like a hypergressive was a good mix on what I heard yeah yeah really like distinct songs really good wordplay I'm just so glad that I saw what grill is it's like it's open the door I've seen her twice.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. Yeah, she's such a great performer. I immediately wanted to listen to her music. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, the UK rap and American rap is so different. And, you know, I've listened to a lot more American rap than I have it, like, British, UK rap. Yeah, same. I can't, like, I was listening to a lot of rap.
Starting point is 00:59:40 day actually i was going through everything doom kendrick freddie um dr dr dray i was going through two back going through so much and i just you can't beat them american rap is so fucking good you go from like you know to pimper butterfly good kid mad city and then 444 and then dr dr dr drey and doom it's like you can't that they're on a different level Yeah, I'm always looking for that wordplay So I think it's my favourite for that It's just ridiculous
Starting point is 01:00:19 Yeah, his ability His writing Ability was just unbelievable Yeah, but then the actual beats and the samples as well Yeah, layered on top of it It's so good, so powerful Actually, why we're technically on the subject of rap I have gotten into Tyler a lot recently
Starting point is 01:00:40 and that's because you you have it on in the car when we go to like Stainsbury's or whatever so I've like I listened to because his new album's come out recently but I was listening to Igoor today so I recognize so much of it because it's just been in the background
Starting point is 01:00:57 while we've been doing things you will have listened to that whole album like 20 times over at this point that Fred Tyler's great really love his album my number one honestly just artist on Spotify at the moment
Starting point is 01:01:11 really cool yeah I can't get enough of his specifically his latest two albums Eagle and call me if you get lost any standout songs a lot ringing your mind what's your name wise
Starting point is 01:01:27 yeah Corso earthquake New Magic Wand it's just songs that like no matter what mood, no matter where I am, what I'm doing I can put one of any of those songs on
Starting point is 01:01:43 and just like... I find that they mix. Like, my music tastes in my library and I'll just go on random. I have a stupidly obscene variety of music. You know, be slip, not one minute and then, you know, Trump Resner
Starting point is 01:01:56 and, you know, Assassin's Creed soundtrack. No matter what, no matter what song listening to, a Tyler song will always slap after. always no matter what and i think that's that's magical yeah yeah i need to listen to more of his stuff um i'm so i think i'm in a similar sort of position to james where i think i've basically heard those at least those two albums yeah those two for sure just from being and like half of a flower boy yeah but i need to like in my own time go through the albums
Starting point is 01:02:30 like properly and actually digest yeah and actually i don't know have you listened to Frank Ocean? No. I've never listened to his solo stuff. You need to. Because blonde is, it has it's got that same type of thing as Tyler's those two albums. It's just got that type of vibe and I think
Starting point is 01:02:50 he would like it. Is Frank Ocean a rapper or a singer? Singer, I believe. Yeah, I don't see. If you want to get into Frank, listen to biking because it has Tyler and Jayzeean. And that just, his
Starting point is 01:03:05 blonde is a fucking great album and he's really good because I was listening to them like Tyler Frank just going back and it's just like it was the consistent vibe so I'd really recommend listening to Tyler and Frank Let's do a couple more here as we round off the show
Starting point is 01:03:23 Rip Fluid can be our penultimate one What are your opinions on the beach I've lived by the coast my entire life So it's interesting to hear the opinion Of you boys who live in a land locked town I think you said this last
Starting point is 01:03:39 episode I can't swim I don't like the beach I like to swim honestly in the UK there's no point going to the beach there's not really an option there's not much point
Starting point is 01:03:53 yeah maybe if you've hardened enough through cold showering you can you can manage the sorry the ocean like for me beach is like beach games like volleyball and kind of that stuff. What do you think of the actual location there? Because I find, I love the beach.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I love the sound, I love the smell, I love the vibe, I love it like on a sunny day and shit being lazy. It tickles the brain. It's like feels correct to be there. Yeah, it's meditative almost about it. It's just the sound of the waves and. It's something about moving water. Yes, it's just relaxing.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I don't like the beach but I like the beach at like 11, 12 o'clock A deserted beach at night That's next level That's dream That's what dreams are made of When you go like on holiday And you're walking down the beach
Starting point is 01:04:49 And it's like the fire pit It's like romantic It's calm It's like incredible I like that But I'm not mad about Like when you picture crazy tourist beach Yeah
Starting point is 01:05:01 hot it's dead of people that's lame that is lame to me that's not fun that's just suffocating i don't like that i don't like that yeah but the thing is i don't like sand bro i've got i know a place that's perfect brighton those pebbles between your feet i like a pebbly beach i hate a pebbly beach go to brighton anyway yeah yeah i'd love to go the Bryson but yeah genuinely like it's it's a Star Wars meme at this point but I genuine I hate
Starting point is 01:05:36 sand I hate what it's about I don't like it between my toes I don't like it no sand can be fucking terrible when it's so hot that it just you step on it's burning it's just oh when you say you don't like sand there's kind of all different forms of sand you know
Starting point is 01:05:52 it's like fine sand it'll stick to your feet I hate sticky sand I hate wet sand, I hate dry sand, I hate sand... Why, though, it's nice, you can, like, walk around barefoot, get all, like, sludgy feet. I'd prefer to walk around barefoot on concrete. That's crazy, man. Do you know, what's one reason why I hate, I hate sand, and it's, I don't know how, but I, this is one of the only things from my childhood that I actually remember.
Starting point is 01:06:19 We went to the beach and had peanut butter sandwiches, and I dropped them on the floor and I was just like... All the, like, childhood things you eat on the beach are, like, sand magnets, basically. Yeah, ice cream. Sand hot dogs. Yeah. Yeah. No, I wonder if that's one of the reasons, because, like, I just remember when you get sand in your mouth, it's how... That's it.
Starting point is 01:06:41 It's staying. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I also have a core memory of being, like, sat in the ocean, like, up to my waist, but sat on the sand. Mm-hmm. And then this wave that was bigger than all the rest just crashes into my face, like, straight. down my mouth down my throat damn perfect angle yeah salty ass water and it's just like oh shit yeah i think shortly after like flossy was there she'd been drinking the seawater and she's just
Starting point is 01:07:08 like vomiting everywhere and i turn to my mom and i'm like i need some water and she's like gone haven't yeah i just drank it all that no that is the worst because it's like you're in a you're so uncomfortable and there's no escape yeah I just had to accept I like I wasn't even like upset or angry or anything I was just like well that's that then but you were literally salty yeah I was so as fuck and the other thing I have is like when I'm on the beach when people go to swim because I've been to the beach of people who like swim far out I just start panicking it's like but have they drown because I just I can't swim so it's like imagining these these people just like so the thing that fucks me up with that kind of stuff is I'm terrified of undercurrents I hate that idea so much of like you're just swimming and then just from underneath just the sea is just like no fuck it wait what happens with an undercurrent then you get sucked under it's just what does that mean does the imagery not well I don't know if you're saying like you get swept out
Starting point is 01:08:23 into the middle of the ocean and you get sucked down? It's the currents Like, is it a whirlpool? What's going on? You've got the currents of the top that move the sea and then at the both you have
Starting point is 01:08:32 just jet streams of water that's just a current and if you go there you go Yeah, James gets sick You get sucked It takes you Where does this happen?
Starting point is 01:08:43 I've never heard of people Just being sucked under the ocean Just to like some Do you not remember the horror stories When we were young In Cannes in the river People died there Well, no, that's a place where there's like a miniature waterfall
Starting point is 01:08:56 and people were like sliding down it and then getting sucked under because it's a fucking like waterfall. Because the undercurrents of the... Cairns. Yeah, because it's like a waterfall. The thing is, but typical beaches won't have undercurrents because it's perfectly sandy. Like only, like, undercurrents are most... Like, I'm not a geologist, but I'm sure like heavy undercounts are normally
Starting point is 01:09:21 one like very wacky you know the edges of the beach because then like Australia like a yeah some places in Australia yeah Sydney and like you know there's lakes in America that probably have it as well it's like those type of formations is when you get undercuts and not like perfectly
Starting point is 01:09:37 sandy beaches but I'm no geologist so I can't say for certain yeah scary waves that make you do a flip I feel like waves you can sort of tell Yeah, but if you misjudge a wave
Starting point is 01:09:53 Well, yeah, you get a face full of salt Well, you get the old flip Yeah, but I mean Yeah, but that's just like a scary moment Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying this is like a reason To never go into the ocean break I'm now just on a line So undercurrents are a reason to never go into the ocean
Starting point is 01:10:12 Yes That's a valid reason What other reasons are there? Other reasons, it's really scary it is scary there unless the water's perfectly clear it's scary and it gets scarier the further out you go
Starting point is 01:10:31 yeah i've never been that far out into the ocean i've not either yeah because you start getting the stomach sinking feeling of like oh there's like so much beneath me the thing is i ain't a great swimmer i'm like i'm like a a rock I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:49 You're the rock. I'm sort of the rock, you know, just like a dense... Do you know? No, I don't reckon he is. I don't reckon he's a great... He's like heavy. Is he too big? He's heavy and...
Starting point is 01:11:00 He doesn't have great, like, mobility. You know how ships, you know, a ship, they like calculate a weight of a ship by how much water it displaces. How much do you think the walks of water displacement... Yeah, that's how he swims is like fucking David Hazelot from the SpongeBob. Yeah. That's as strong his legs are when he kicks. I'm not going to the sea any time soon No, I really want to go to the sea site
Starting point is 01:11:26 But I'm happy to just be in there Maybe put my feet in the Yeah, yeah, that's what I'll do Yeah, I'll defend the bags I do want to go to the beach Because I want, I want like new memories of it I haven't been to the beach in actual years Like years and years
Starting point is 01:11:39 It's been a long-ass time Especially because in the UK it becomes like a mad rush Like as soon as the sun comes out It's like, fuck, get on the train It's like you go on the motor it's like a four-hour delay. Yeah. And everyone has the same idea at the same time,
Starting point is 01:11:53 and everyone just gets... It's like, we're so deprived of sun. It's like... Yeah. Fuck, right. Let's end on this one then from McThick-Wide. Did Alex ever get back into drumming? Also, what's James' favorite jazz album?
Starting point is 01:12:13 Stung gets. Actually, I started looking up at... Wait, say that again? Stan gets Really good jazz artist Anything he's done It was right before the first lockdown I was like properly looking into like lessons and shit
Starting point is 01:12:29 But then when it's locked down I haven't thought about it since But um Yeah I would like to though I have though Damn I've mastered it
Starting point is 01:12:45 I've mastered it Yeah I've mastered it I'm in a band Little indie band Known as The Rolling Stones Replacing The Late
Starting point is 01:13:02 McJaggart Not Mick Jagger He wasn't the drummer And he's still alive The drummer The drummer of the Rolling Stones recently died Yeah I saw the video on Twitter
Starting point is 01:13:12 Paul McCartney saying Rest in peace So You know A little good gig, I've kind of snatched up. Probably should have led with that. It's the sort of thing you bring up at the start of the podcast.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Well, it's no big deal. Well, thanks for listening. You hope you enjoyed this episode. Tell us how, what you think about Mike Tyson paying a gorilla. Paying the gorilla. Just sex. Yeah, that's, that would was what would be that would, what would be that would, what would it fair as if the gorilla got the money or least like could trade like he gets
Starting point is 01:13:56 the money but he could trade it for something he gets that money in banana yeah just didn't have seen grand's worth of bananas yeah he's like six and the rest just rot and he's happy yeah you know he can give a shit yeah like gorilla you know have a banana have a banana be happy i used to say live like a dog, but now I'm going to say live like a gorilla. Live like a gorilla.

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