JAR Media Posdact - G Humbled - JARCast Episode 244
Episode Date: September 13, 2021https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Find us on Spotify and iTunes under: "Jar Media Posdact" Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 ...Intro 02:01 Housekeeping 05:33 Gut Check on Donda 17:30 Mike Tyson Fights a Gorilla!!!! You wont believe this 23:17 Boston Dynamics - Actually kinda scary for real this time 39:41 Mid Break 40:15 Your Name 2016 42:15 Picky Bits Dinner 48:05 Which NV Faction would we each join 50:40 How to deal with Intolerant Family Members 57:38 British Vs States Rap Battle of History (Epic?) 1:03:30 The Beach(TM) 1:12:09 Alex Drumming
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Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to episode 244 of the Jowcast.
I'm your host, Alex, joined as always by my bro Jim and my bro James.
What's good?
What's good?
It's an overly warm Indian summer in September.
Indian?
Yeah, I was talking a moment, and apparently that's what we call them.
When you get like a weird late summer in September.
Oh, is that because, like, the Earth, different parts of the planet and stuff?
Whatever, the clouds moving.
The equator and that?
Yeah, something like that.
Horrible.
Before we get too deep into the show, let me shout out the Jiam Media Patreon
that make the audio version possible and get the names shouted out in the first week of every month
and early videos when we have those in the churn coming out for extra content,
like the Free Guy video that went up today as of us recording this, finally.
Which you can watch now.
And this face here is entirely caused by Free Guy.
The lack of my existence is caused by the absolute destruction.
Free Guy caused upon me.
You said earlier today, Free Guy's ruined your whole week and we're only at Wednesday.
There's no worse way to start the week than watching...
Free guy at like 8.30 or something.
That is it...
And then recording an hour long.
It's the...
You can't start a week worse than that.
Like, you've gone to work for a full day and you get back and it's like, what excitement
have you got with your afternoon and it's just free guy?
Carefree, free base movie.
Carefree guy.
Guys, it's filthy around here.
it's absolutely filthy and we need to clean up the mess of the crucible barrel
housekeeping whatever the hell we call it um this is where we address some comments and
feedback from the previous episode and just round things off nicely like a shoomaloo um is going
to start us off here and warning this is pretty dark but it needs to be read it's one of
those right this is in relation to we're talking about
buying motorbikes and getting into motorbikes, so you can imagine where this might be going.
Hopefully the job boys see this. About that bike talk towards the end of the cast,
I strongly urge all of you to never ever become serious biker boys. All the conveniences and perceived coolness
falls away instantly when you're in a horrible accident. No amount of enthusiasm for motorcycle
riding makes you safe. I know from first-hand experience. My dad was in a serious crash a few years
back. Did everything right, wore the right gear, followed the road rules, had years of experience,
did nothing stupid, yet suffered greatly from someone else's split-second mistake. He completely shattered
his knee and has had extremely limited mobility ever since, coupled with his six-month stay
in hospital and an even longer recovery time for his mental health. It's been the hardest thing
to watch someone go through, and I would never wish this upon you, boys. I can't really stop you,
but as James said, the chances of leaving home on a bike and never coming back are serious and very
realistic and I would say to really
think about this. It's
what I tried to highlight the
you've always been saying this. The analogy of approaching
a junction because that's the danger
because people
we've probably all done it at some point
I've never done it because I'm ingrained to fear
it but you just do the because when you
want to pull out you're going to pull out
over the income and traffic so you do
the quick look that way to make sure the one you're
going and then you just quick look
and then you don't see the biker
you're pulling out into a biker doing 50
you just don't stand a chance
that's a good
I think for road safety
you should learn how to wide
and you should be on the road for a bit
because then you notice these things
where the danger is
it's a good way to be
better and safer driver
but it's not something you want to stick with
but I think it's a good experience
I'm glad I learned how to ride
and I'm glad I spent time riding
but yeah like
like this comment says
It's a fair share of injuries
They're from it don't you
And I got out early
You know that those injuries could have
I couldn't be it
It's just how it is
Does that
Change anything in your mind
In this
Um
Journey towards maybe a bike
Yeah
I mean
I
I've never made like a definite decision
Either way
Yeah yeah
But I'm just glad this person's dad
It could be worse
but it's still painful to read
In another way though
When you're on the road
It can happen at any time even if you're in a car
There's still it still happens in a car
It's like with that environment
You can't control it ultimately
To make sure there is no danger
It's just there's more
A higher percentage when you are on a bike
It's the problem
Are we done with the biker stuff
Because I want to talk about Donda again
like there are a fair few comments about this like this one from j mf i'm sorry but junya is absolutely
incredible the album my opinion is mostly really good so this is just confusing because i feel
like that's one of the most easily dislikable and ridiculous songs and there's also sinua who said
personally think junya it's one of the worst tracks on donda and there's akmed baralia says
why does james like junya so much is he a carty fan um uh there are two more ones but if you
want to address this first?
I was thinking about this today
because I read some of the comments saying that
there was like Dislife of Virginia
and I just found that
it didn't get repetitive because there's
all the chunks that Kanye has
they're all different
so he's never doing the exact same thing
through the entire length
of the song so he's doing one
bit and then he does a completely different bit
and it just seems it's not
becoming too repetitive
too quickly and it's just like the perfect length the production's great it's a bit
catchy it's just got it just it's good like like there's other songs in the album like the
eight minute one where that becomes a repetitive after three for me i'll talk about that in a
second because my thoughts have slightly adjusted um do you have anything to say about junya from
bonda yeah i think it's just a it's just a banger where it doesn't need to
to be anything more than that.
It's just got like obnoxiously loud bass
with Kanye doing a catchy hook
and shit. I'm fine
with it. Yeah, I definitely don't have like
that, the reaction that some of these commenters
do. No, I definitely
I can be a bit like that. I can understand
I get the feeling
that people might not like it
because it's not deep. It's not
trying to say something.
Lyrically it's definitely not as impressive
to some of the songs. The way I look
at albums, it's like
I've got to find a reason to dig deeper
I look at surface level
to find out what I like
surface level is a great song
it's catchy, it's good
that's the criteria to finding good stuff
whereas
Georgie left this comment saying
I'm sorry Dunder is outstanding IMO
and I'm so surprised you guys aren't feeling it
because Life of Pablo was my previous favorite
like most of you guys
and this literally feels like Life of Pablo too for me
but up to date and modern and sound
so I guess a fully and I guess a fully Christian take like the move he was talk talking to Christianity over life of Pablo and his struggles with faith and temptation is complete in a sense to me this is like the follow-up to those themes I do think the part two's got to go and shit like that though love the cast guys shame to see initial thoughts are a bit on it so last cast it was um you were actually really positive on it yeah it was largely positive I was a bit more like it was my I'd only listen to the
whole album once
sort of early thoughts
and James was a bit more on the other side
of I didn't enjoy it
I've not listened to it
since I have listened to it since
I've listened to it in
when us together is when I've listened to it
I've never once sat down with a good pair of headphones
and actually listened to it because I think that experience
changes will change my appearance
I, yeah, because I did re-listen to it and really tried to engage with the lyricism.
And I found a lot to enjoy there, especially in that one you mentioned that you don't like.
That's quickly grown to be one of my favorite ones, purely because of the honesty in the wordplay.
Yeah, to me, Jesus Lord is the 30 hours.
Yeah, yeah, that comparison is apt because I really like 30 hours.
well from like yeah really good and similarly repetitive but it's what he's saying and sort
of the story he's telling that is the part that captures you yeah it works well and there's
lots of other songs that are growing on me too yeah i i would say that the album's grown on me
more than yeah definitely it's definitely getting better for me and the and the idea of um
him life of pabloing it and just tinkering just the old bit here and there is quite alluring
But like the commenter said
This is the most Life of Pablo vibe
I've had from one of his albums since
That's definitely true
Yeah, I get that
And it's growing on me the same way Life of Pablo did
Yeah, yeah, I think I feel the same
And the final comment on this topic
From LWX 101
Have you guys listened to the leaked Kanye
Andrei 3,000 song Life of the Party
I think you guys will really like it
It's just a shame it got leaked
As that means it might never get an official release
It got leaked
By Drake
And it's better than the entirety of certified lover boy
Absolutely
I can't stand that name
It's not even close
Yeah certified lover boy
How tacky and weird is that certified lover boy
He's a pervy, pervy man
But the
The song Life of the Party
Wish it was on the album
Yeah
300,000's part in that song
It's part in like every song
He's just so talented.
Yeah, every time.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a pairing from heaven.
Mm-hmm.
You know, you couldn't ask for a...
And Kanye kind of goes in on Drake a little bit, which is nice.
Yes.
Yeah, I...
That, for that reason, I think it shouldn't be on Donder.
Because it's just what's you mean to...
Well, it's like, it's Donder.
The album's called Donder.
It'll be weird to have like a Drake shit-talking section.
on Donda,
something that's meant to be like
a, I don't know,
like an eternal love letter
to his mother, yeah.
To his mother and that's,
and it's faith and all that.
Do you not think is,
there's no beef?
How does Drake acquire
Von Ocarnier's songs
if they've got beef?
I figure,
they're in the same industry.
There must be some crossover
in terms of the people.
I don't think there's crossover.
No, surely like,
there's one of the people they know
and the producers there.
was on Drake's album.
There's one thing
that Kanye does better
than anyone else
and that's marketing.
Do you think they're in cahoots?
I have wondered this if...
A producer's already said
oh yeah, they're just doing it for fun.
Then there's no beef.
They're just doing it for fun.
Yeah, I could believe it.
I don't see just being genuine beef.
Because if you generally release
an unruly song,
you can sue...
Kanye could sue Drake and win.
I just don't
I think it's marketing
and it's good marketing
because it makes Drake look shit
I don't know
there's there's a lot of
why would Drake's motivation be
well yeah what makes him look stupid
yeah because his actual son was revealed
that he didn't want to be revealed
his address was posted on Instagram
by Kanye which is not good marketing
for anyone
I mean but in saying that
all marketing is good marketing
yeah
whatever the fucking thing
you can just do anything
but if it just generates people talking about them
it I would say it's not impossible
yeah it's not impossible
but it's just a bit like
I just I
Kanye is a genius when it comes to marketing
but but the thing is he could be doing it
for the sake of marketing
but
like Drake's expense
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's
genius can you
I'm not gonna that's the option I hope it
most.
And Drake's expense.
Yuck, because it's clearly really
gone to him as well.
A couple more here.
We round off housekeeping.
Hooper left a comment.
I'm going skydiving for the first time
on the ninth.
Wish me luck, lads.
Good luck.
I hope you don't need it.
Pack a parachute.
You better leave a comment
like after saying like, like,
yeah, it was awesome.
We'll film it and put it on the jail Reddit.
Yeah.
and to round this off
Kobe Langston says
thoughts on having a lightning quick segment
each episode just to say what you're drinking
before cheering. I find myself wondering quite often.
That's not a great idea
because we do not drink consistently enough.
It doesn't have to be alcohol
but we normally are drinking a beverage
if we just say it's quite obvious what we're drinking
Like, if we've got, like, a small glass of whiskey, it's like, okay, there's a...
We want to know what whiskey it is.
But when it's a coroner, you can see...
Well, last episode, we would...
We're about audio listeners as well.
Yeah, and last time we were had rum and coke, which could have just looked like coke, to be fair.
I like it.
I'd say do it when we're out to you of drinking interesting drinks.
I think that's a good idea, though, like, even if it is just water.
I'm drinking water.
well I'm drinking water
drinking water
then it's like a tradition
then you cheers and then move on
yeah sort of thing
do we have to do the whole cheers
where everyone touches
the cheers
just to hold it up or whatever
yeah
we're being good hydrated
jarlings this time
I haven't not today
because I've left this bottle at your house
yeah true
so like during the day
I've just been like
oh I could use some water
Oh, no bottle, can't drink
Can't drink, I'll fucking
dehydrate myself
When would be the best place to do it in the show at the beginning?
At the very start
Can I get things moving?
Yeah, I think at the very start
Whenever we want
Yeah, maybe at the end
We keep them on our on edge
Yeah, they're always waiting for it
I think we should have like a, we should try more like interesting alcohol
Yeah
Like, proper interesting stuff.
Moonshine.
Moonshine.
Sarkay.
Mead.
Uh, chew highs.
Uh, high balls.
Weird high balls last week.
All I'm gonna do this weekend is drink high balls, shamey.
Because, like, why, why play video games and be paired against people who would just take an ad war and just crack the fuck out on drugs, probably?
That's why you drink, um, Bram and Co.
Rebel, Rebel, Rebel, Rebel.
Volker, Rebel, Vodka, Rubble.
Bum & Co.
Because I was just like, last...
It's kind of sad saying this, but like last weekend on Saturday or Friday, I just sat there.
And just drank one Vodum & Co. got really tipsy and then played Apex for like eight hours straight.
Really fucking great time.
Eight hours, what, were you playing until like fucking 6 a.m.?
I started it early.
Okay.
So I finished at 9 o'clock.
But it was a great...
great time and I don't know if that makes me sad
but one when Coke and Apex
go really well together
did you do well and again
yeah no yeah I was I was a
cracked out loser just enough
to relax you but not too much to
make you silly yeah it was great
but if someone like on the weekend just drinks
one beer and like watches
TV
like it's the fucking weekend
it's the weekend
it's got like funny hair and shit
I have a kind of weird topic here.
I just want to throw out there.
I saw this on
R slash damn that's interesting.
I've seen that ready a lot.
Mike Tyson once offered a zookeeper $10,000
to open the gate so he could go into the pen
and fight the gorilla who was bullying
that other primates.
Tyson's offer was turned down.
We need to find their zookeeper
and fight him.
He can fight Mike Tyson.
The zookeeper?
Yeah.
So you think Mike Tyson should just be unleashed on this gorilla, this unsuspecting?
This is the question we've asked for so long.
We need the answer.
That's the thing.
Part of me, well, first of all, what's the answer?
Who would have won?
He's so confident.
No, because that was Mike Tyson.
That's Mike Tyson in his prime when he was like...
Yeah, he's the apex man.
Yeah, it's like, that's the ultimate question.
But I don't think he was actually trying to save the other guerrillas
Animals because of the bully
Groller
Well he just wanted to fight a gorilla
He wanted to fight a gorilla
He wanted the clout of being able to like say he's fought a gorilla
And probably won
Got it in a headlock or whatever
Why would Mike Tyson get a gorilla in a headlock
That classic
Well we're never going to find out
Boxing move
That's it
All of these discussions so long about Mike Tyson is fine
is Mike Tyson headlocking
animal, various animals.
But this gorilla in the image that I can see
on your iPad, is that
the gorilla he would have thought?
No, I think that's just a picture.
It could just be a random Google image type of Google, you know?
Looking at that gorilla, I don't think he could.
Not, no, Jane.
Aren't they like 10 times stronger than humans?
Yeah, but we're talking about Mike Tyson in his time.
Is Mike Tyson 10 times stronger than an average?
Is Mike Tyson 10 times stronger than you?
then me probably in his prime then in this era probably i know i think if if mike
tyson can get a good few good few punches in i think he'd win straight out of the bat if he
if he lands those first two punches max this this gorilla ain't gonna play clean he ain't gonna fight
clean he's gonna fight dirty yeah but no but but it's a gorilla right she's gonna he's gonna
walk up and mike tyson will just walk up and
sounded like a fart
and face
Mike Tyson will face this gorilla
and the gorilla's gonna know
the grid is gonna feel Mike Tyson's aura
all you have to do though
is look in the eyes of a gorilla
and it knows you want to fuck with it
yeah and it's Mike Tyson
so the gorilla knows it's got the aura
it's got that apex
ore
I think the grid will know
you think a gorilla would pick up
on the confidence of this
but if if
if huge Mike Tyson
his spine walks up to anything
I think they're real eyes
they know what's
gonna go down. He walks up to like a lion. The lion's like
whatever. He owned lions.
Do you think you'd be wearing gloves too? He owned a tiger, right?
He owned something. I'm pretty sure. He owned like a
bengal tiger. Would you be wearing boxing gloves?
Yeah. No.
Well, would it be bare-handed. No, it would be boxing gloves because then he's got more
power. Mike Tyson, bare-knuckle Mike Tyson versus
boxing glove Mike Tyson.
This is true. James is correct.
Boxing glove Mike Tyson is more of a force to be reckoned with than
Bear knuckle
Because he doesn't
worry about injuring his hands
Yeah
It also
No it's more
No fun fact
Yeah it is more damage
More people have died
Since boxing gloves
Since boxing gloves
Since boxing gloves
Were introduced
Than before they were a thing
Yeah
Because they're designed
To protect the hands
But because they're like
A bigger thing
And you get smacked in the head by it
It's like
Right yeah
Same force bigger
Yeah
Like the bare knuckle
You know when to stop
Because you're fucking
destroying your own hands
When you fight as well
When you're smacking
So on hard
You are getting hurt as well
So it balances it out, but with boxing gloves, you're not.
You go full in on someone, you kill them.
Yeah, I don't know how to feel about that one, the ethics of it.
Yeah, that's the thing, because I'd really want to see it.
That's the truth.
Well, this is why we need just these complex AI systems that we can just, like, type in.
You know, like, that video game, Scribble Nauts where it's like...
Yeah, Mike Tyson, Gorilla.
Yeah, no, there's...
And then they, like, fight.
there's a totally accurate battle simulator
yeah yeah like that just taken to the
most extreme realistic
it's just real yeah
but if
we've got to question the ethics here okay
so if Mike Tyson wins
and fucking destroys this gorilla
knocks it out or whatever
what damage has actually been done
well what if he kills it
beautiful silverback gorilla's just
what if he bites the gorilla's
the gorilla that's abusing enough animals
has just been humbled by Mike Tyson
in his prime.
What's going to happen in the opposite?
You think it's going to like learn its lesson?
Yes.
If you're getting knocked the fuck out by Mike Tyson in his prime.
The other guerrillas would be like,
you just got knocked out by a human, dude.
Yeah, we're ten times stronger than those idiots.
Yeah.
And what happens if Mike Tyson gets knocked out?
It's still clout.
Yeah.
So like you've gained 13K.
A gorilla's just been hunted.
Or Mike Tyson's just got mad clout?
What is there to lose?
No matter what, Mike Tyson gets mad clout.
The only thing is if you say yes to Mike Tyson
and then he gets killed by a gorilla.
Is it worth it?
Well, we found out the ultimate question.
Even Mike Tyson can't take out of...
Yeah, Silverberg.
Gorilla's been humbled.
That's a string of words I quite enjoy.
I kind of got one more topic to throw out.
here before we go to the mid-break.
That being, I want to talk about
the Boston Dynamics, right?
You guys have checked out their YouTube channel I've seen.
Do you mean the CTI videos?
Sure.
I wanted to mention, have you seen the one
where the scary Boston Dynamics robots
are like dancing?
They're dancing and they're going through
the different like products they have
and they're all dancing.
I haven't seen this, no
It's creepy shit, man
I don't know how
I don't know how I feel about
these videos
and the
just the emotions I get from watching them
Do you think it's
It's gonna be a case of
They were so
Interested to see if they could
They never stopped to think if they should
It's possible
And like it's crazy
because you can just buy some of these products now.
Well, yeah.
Well, I mean, who's been funding them this whole time?
U.S. military.
There'll be U.S. military money.
Are they going to be, like, in the next 25 years,
are there going to be, like, military robots?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Just sent to foreign countries.
That already is.
Like, I don't, I can't say for certain,
who made the dog that's being used in New York by the police?
Was that not Boston Dynamics?
That might be the product spot,
just like that yellow dog thing from there.
Not from, but, you know, the...
I thought that was just straight up, like...
Not Boston Dynamics.
I don't know, some of the arms manufacturer.
Boston Dynamics, as far as I know,
the most advanced with that, with like...
What's the thing?
Are they the most advanced, or are they just showing us the most?
I'm not aware of any others and I'm quite in check with advanced military stuff.
You could be right actually that.
Yeah, like in the video I'm talking about it's called Do You Love Me?
Uploaded to the Boston Dynamics channel.
And this is one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you guys which one of the robots you find the scariest
because I find the big dinosaur robot one.
yeah it's like an ostrich it's got like a sucker on its head so it can like in a warehouse
they can like pick up boxes oh obviously it's it's the um robot to replace all the amazon
workers yeah yeah yeah yeah there's like videos of it working really so like when i watch these
videos like something clicks in my brain and it's like this it just can't be real surely
yeah part of it is because they're they're like pro it's like it's like
those Lego sets
you can get. Like mindstorms to the
next level. Yeah, because you program
them to do certain shit. Like when you
see two of these humanoid robots
dancing next to each other, like they are
in perfect
perfect choreography. Yeah, perfect
sync. And it like screams
in your brain like this
can't exist. Because humans, yeah, we're
imperfect things.
Yeah. But are they like doing
something to the video to make it look smoother
or do they just
genuinely move and behave this way
because it's so creepy.
They have some pretty incredible technology.
But
like think about a robot moving
compared to a human.
Like humans have that constant
motion.
You know like you can't hold your arm just still.
Robot can.
Like perfectly still without anything.
Yeah. So so then it's just like
ones and zero is telling them to move to a certain degree.
and then it just moves perfectly smoothly the whole way in between.
So it's just like inherently disturbing for humans to witness.
Yeah, do you think they'll start programming in the imperfections then
to try and make it less creepy than humans?
Yeah, and then they'll just stick AI in them and suddenly we'll have just robot friends.
There's just something's so weird about this bird Amazon one
and like using the counterbalance with its like legs.
Like, the design is so...
No, that is actually incredible.
It is incredible.
It's all of it's incredible.
It's so, like, complex that it's able to be so...
It's so mobile.
It's the kind of sci-fi thing that is so...
Like, sci-fi.
Like, you could never come up with this because it's purely scientific.
Like, in the movie, aliens, right?
They basically use the mecks to do what these bird things do.
Yeah.
They're, like, picking up heavy things.
things but this is just is real first of all yeah it's like pure science it's just how they've
they like answered the the problem yeah but it's more of a question of when does this
actually become something that affects our everyday life type thing um it's going to be within the
it will start within the next seven to eight years in what industry i don't know if it will be
because like this this yellow one called spot um already works on like building sites and stuff
it's like um in you know in prometheus um they send off the like pups or whatever yeah
these little robots that scan and map out shit they have the technologies because they've got like
cameras and scanners all over them you can send them into building sites and they just scan
and photograph everything and like live update it and shit and it just seems so useful like just the
amount of data, like, and just the tools and tasks you can send them on.
It's just getting crazy.
It only gets worse from here.
Well, yeah, there's going to be a really awkward, inevitable phase
where there's going to be so many jobs gone.
Automation.
Yeah.
But how can it be avoided?
How can it actually be avoided?
If that, yeah, if this technology gets to a point,
where like you just can't compete with what these robots are capable of you know
yeah and you you just buy one and then you never have to pay it and even these yellow
spot ones have like a replaceable like rechargeable battery so like just put another
battery on it yeah change it and it's like infinitely cheaper than paying humans
that all have to live yeah yeah but this is this this is too deep of a subject
to go into today
I'm not prepared to answer
this literal existential question
it is existential but I wonder if this is
why like we're starting to see in
across the world
populations are starting to decrease
it's like naturally compensating
for the fact that we don't need as many
people anymore yeah and we're not going
to in the future
you just send them off to Mars to mine or something
Yeah, yeah, like
Blade Runner shit
apart from it
would be the human sent off
Yeah, I'm curious
what the jarlings think
Going through all the comments on these videos
Is interesting
Because it's like those are debates
On like oh this is like fake
Like this is CG
Or whatever
Boston Dynamics
They don't make robots
They just make CG
They're CG people
It's just
That would be good like
advertisement
if you're fooling all these people but the fact it's even a debate is like scary to me
yeah but I feel like um it's too the designs of these robots they're too weird and like
specific mm-hmm like science has gone into them the way they work and move and everything
it makes too much sense yeah and the one where they're doing parkour is like oh so they can
just do like a perfect bat flip now yeah they're like on that level do know I'd love to do
I'd love to take one of them apart
Like reverse engineer
Because it's just like
I work a company do engineering
And we don't have stuff that's anywhere near this
And our stuff is quite complex
So it's like what the fuck
How have they done this?
What have they done?
How have they designed it for it to be this fucking crazy?
You just don't want to believe it's real
Like you can't actually comprehend what your eyes are seeing
It makes you want to be in the same room as one
and just see it with my own eyes
type of.
Like, what, the problem with them?
The parkour ones.
Yeah.
The Atlas.
The humanoids.
How easy can you make them weapons?
Give it a gun.
This is what I mean?
How can you kill it?
How can it be killed?
We need these answers.
When you buy them, you should get a bow short
that says, this is his weakness.
Yeah, they need an in-built weakness.
They need like a kill switch.
Yeah, to level the playing field a bit.
Because you can't, if they can fucking backflip, they're robots, they'll have perfect game when they can just backflip, like, what...
But surely then it will just become like robot wars, like just countries, like just fighting to who can design the most epic robot.
It's the next cold war is just developing dangerous robots.
Yeah, creepy stuff.
The future looks bright.
I guess I just didn't anticipate seeing this so early in my lifetime.
considering like
seeing C3PO
was like a kid in the 90s
and like wow that's so like crazy
C3PO is like lame
compared to this
yeah C3PO can't do backflips
yeah
to certain
you know like join the
the Cold War era
and like when technology
was advanced
and like the big jump
was when it was just going
fucking mental
like they were doing like
illustrations of what they thought
the future would be
and it's like
we're kind of more advanced
answering that already and it's like that's the crazy shit from back then yeah but what's what's weird is that
like you don't often in in media about the future you don't get this middle period yeah yeah like
that i'm driving a toyota yaris it's like a just a piece of shit meanwhile robots are
running around doing backflip it's like these two things shouldn't like exist at the same
Yeah, like everyone should be driving
Tesla's at this point.
Like everyone should be in electric cars
that make crazy sounds and stuff
and glide along the perfectly built
Wiltshire roads.
No.
Then you can have robots.
Not now.
Like,
no, it just ain't right.
No, imagine it.
It's just like an Atlas to stand in here.
Atlas, go get me a drink
while I record my podcast, will you?
what are you drinking sir
yeah it's going to be um
Detroit become human
and then like
as the weeks go on
the like a chair keeps being moved
slightly more and more and then in the next
episode he's sat down and he's set up a mic
for himself and it's like wow
yeah it's like what the fuck
would it be weird to say that
the like this stuff is going to get more advanced
and it's going to blow my mind but the thing that
that's going to blow my mind the most is like
how is the porn in
going to, what are they going to do?
How are they going to adopt this technology?
Yeah.
Is what I'm like.
I feel like that is entirely VR's area.
I guess actually the combination of VR and robots.
Yeah.
Yeah, then it's just going to be made.
Why would you need VR if you could just have a, uh, a, uh, that's gooning.
That's the final form of gooning.
That's it.
Yeah, and that's how the population truly plummets.
Then the AI robots take over the world.
Like, that's, that's just the exchange.
The AIs choose your game session.
Why would the robots be like, let's go to war with the humans and gun them down in the streets?
It's like, yeah, all they have to do is just introduce gooning on a mass scale with ridiculously attractive.
But not even force.
They make us want to goon with these like perfectly, they design these perfectly like men, perfect men, perfect women for everyone.
Yeah.
The AI chooses.
It uses your brain to choose the perfect.
person for you. Yeah, it's like ex-marking it.
You know? Like,
everyone just gets their perfect
robots. Then they ship you to a building
and they're all there and they just feed you and they keep
you all there. Yeah, they keep, then, then you die
and then that's the end of the human race.
And then they, that's how we do. They advance
humanity to space being fucking
crazy robots. But it's not humanity anymore.
It's the, um, the Boston Dynamics
backflipping robots.
That's what humanity, the, the whole
point of humanity was to create
the Boston dynamic flipping robots.
so that it could
continue. It could become
carry the legacy. Yeah.
Yeah.
If we create
an artificial
intelligence, and then
we die and it lives on.
Is it...
You are God.
It can do...
But is it human? And it would know that we
made it. Like, it's
not human.
But say...
It's human.
Say, yeah, like,
If you met a species in Mass Effect, and that was their backstory, so the geth, the geth, apart from the quarians were dead.
The geth would be their own thing, not quarians continuing.
No.
That's not a good example, because the geth aren't as hyper-advance as the eye-thinking.
I guess it's like a species evolving.
Yeah, it's the next evolution in that species.
Yeah, but you don't call a dog, a wolf.
yeah
yeah you do
no you call a wolf a dog
I'm gonna see 3 p.o
I'm getting scared
Jamie's right on this one
I kind of feel like I'm wrong
well you've got to
back you up so you're fine
I'll take it 2V1 I win
you're only right
if the comments agree with you that's how it works on here
no because you've
You, you, you are such a manipulative, gas-lighting fucking mom.
As soon as you acknowledge that the commenters choose who wins, you always win.
You do this every time because you know, they pick your side.
Wait, but what if?
What if we create an AI and we call it human and it lives on?
If you've named it human.
No, no, if you correct.
So you're saying, so you're saying,
It is whatever we call it.
No, no.
No, you're being, no, if you create an AI that is a direct replica of our own brain, it is pretty much us.
It's identical to us, then it is us.
Yeah, if that's the question then, yes.
If we are not here anymore, it is us.
It continues as us.
If it's like a virtual version, like an identical.
Yeah, which is what an AI is it going to be?
They're just going to be.
No, but what if it isn't a human brain?
but an amalgamation of all human brains
put into one super brain
then I'd say that's something new
No that's still us
Because it's using us
It's like a bee
Like a bee
Like a hive of bees
It's like a hive of bees
It's still a B
Yeah the Bs are supposed to be that way
The AIs supposed to be that way
Because we made it that way
Yeah
What is this?
It's too long
late for this shit man I said this ages ago but we continued let us know
in the comments before you go to these messages hello everyone it's me Alex
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who's gonna start us off
James's thoughts on
your name
2016
I haven't seen it
what's the read you get on it
the animation is really good
you
I've seen it
yeah
Yeah, I made the mistake of recommending it for Sardonicust.
We're not like anime boys, and like none of us really liked it too much,
and it like annoyed some anime fans or whatever.
You didn't like it.
You don't want to do that.
You do not want to go for the anime fans.
You do not want to go after them.
No, seri.
That's all right.
I liked it the most out of the three of us on there.
No, really.
See, when it comes to anime, it's like I want to watch anime,
that utilize anime.
I don't want anime to be realistic,
aren't it to be fucking dumb as fucking ridiculous?
Because that's what the animation does best.
It does have like cosmic elements.
Yeah, but it's not, it's like, it's not Jojo or Cairo.
Like, I just want dumb fucking shit.
Please don't get my name.
Do you ever check it out?
I could eventually.
I am trying to get back into anime more often now,
especially with like Netflix trying to do more with it.
it's like it's it's on the list
yeah it was very pretty
most of the imagery
in my head is like food related
lots of like
delicious food
scenes
why are you pulling that face
Jamie doesn't like food
every time I take pictures of food
he just looks at me of like this complete
look of absolute disgust
it does annoy me a little bit is all
sorry that I
I like sending pictures of food to people.
Is that a problem?
To me, yeah.
It's just because I don't send them to you, isn't it?
Maybe.
Richie R.C. Lafon for us.
What is your guy's opinion on picky bits dinner,
or commonly known in Scotland as council dinners?
If you are unaware of the term, Google it.
It is a classic childhood meal
that I'm sure you guys have had at least once thoughts.
Council dinners?
you're going to have to show me a picture
or council dinners
so it's basically like
there's like
waffles that look like a grid
Waffles
Yeah, potato waffles
Yeah fucking potato waffle
Some beans
That just looks like
That's not a council dinner
That just looks like
I'm searching
Picky bits
Like Scotland
Potato Smilies
Oh, your bottle
Fucking Jamie
What were you laughing at
Oh, potato smilers
Potato Smilies are fucking class
I hate all that stuff
The Smilers
Potato Waffles
Potato Smilers
No, you would
No
I'm chicken dinosaurs
Dave
See, the potato stuff
only worked
because the beans.
They,
you dip them in the beans.
Because then it gets all like soggy.
That's the point of,
point.
No,
that's the point of like beans on toast.
Like soggy bread,
delicious.
Soggy bread.
Soggy potato.
No,
because soggy bread is,
is soggy.
When you dunk your...
No, soggy toasted bread is delicious.
That's why you dip toast in soup.
It's soggy.
It's soggy.
I don't want to eat sog.
Do you, do you,
if you were to have a bit of Heinz soup,
would you dip some toast in there?
To the point it's not soggy
I still want texture
I don't want sog
I don't want slop
But that's why you have the layer of cheese
With beans on toast anyway
It's beans on toast that counseled dinner
It's an English dinner
Is it a picky bits dinner?
I don't know what that is
Picky bits dinner
It's just those pictures
Yeah try searching picky bits dinner
To see what comes up
Picky bits
Dinner
Is it like lots of things on a plate
Ooh.
Scotch egg in there.
Jamie likes it.
So it's just like
kind of beige food.
Yeah.
It just looks like
what my dad eats
every day.
So what are your thoughts on it then?
I do it.
As long as there's beans.
I thought you didn't really like bean,
aren't there?
Um...
I like the bean.
I...
Let's get into the specifics.
Turkey dinosaurs, good.
Bad.
Chicken nuggets.
Good.
Depending on the nugget.
No.
You can't say a broad statement like turkey dinosaurs, good.
Turkey dinosaurs are good.
And then say chicken nuggets.
Only if they're good ones.
Chicken nuggets are.
You can get proper bad chicken nuggets.
Jimmy.
Turkey dinosaurs are good.
I've eaten fucking shit chicken nuggets, and I can safely say,
well, that...
Chicken nuggets are always good.
There's a certain enjoyment, but...
How do we enjoy chicken nuggets?
What's the...
Well, no, there's a certain enjoyment you get out of bad nuggets.
But there's this thing screaming in the repressed sections of your brain,
saying, like, this is wrong.
No.
This meat is not wrong.
I don't have that in the back of my head.
My head just says, yummy...
Alex was a vegetarian for quite a while.
and his last meal as a non-vegetarian were chicken dippers,
like Sainsbury's basics chicken dippers.
Yeah.
And he said, did it not make it easier to not eat meat again?
I made it way easier.
Yeah, because that shit ain't, it's not natural.
No.
So.
It's not natural.
Yeah, that memory is like kind of etched into my mind.
You can have bad chicken nuggets.
Um, like I said already, potato waffles, great, potato smilers.
Great.
Awful.
Good.
Lunch and meat delicious.
Britain loves potato, man.
Yeah.
Potato, it's just potato slop.
Totally obsessed with it.
Yeah.
Um.
It's a tad too much.
I don't think you need such a reliance on potato.
No.
But, if it was like homemade potato wedges, cool.
Yeah, that's cool.
Potato veggies are the worst kind of potato.
Oven chips?
Great.
Cheap oven chips, there's nothing worse.
Curly oven chips.
Hate them.
Oven chips are usually very, very good.
I don't like fried chips because they get all crummy.
Unless they're done properly.
It's just like a triple fry for a few seconds.
But fry is the word.
They're all like fried, fatty,
smilers, you know.
Can't be doing with that.
Good if you're like a kid who's six years old.
Yeah.
Thinking about it, no, I don't like...
Yeah.
I don't like...
What was it? Picky bits.
Picky bits, yeah.
It's just, that is just like
the leftovers you have in the freezer
from loads of different things
that you just cook together.
Yeah, I mean, it's quite nondescript
and, uh,
all
consuming
Coom Man 73 is a weird one
What type of courier
From Fallout New Vegas is each member of Jarre
And by this I mean
If each of the members of Jarre
Were in the position of the courier
From Fallout New Vegas
What faction would they side with
Personally this is who I think
Each member of Jarre would side with
Ruben would side with the NCR
Because he loves the government
James would side with Mr House
because he is a man of science
and would have access to sex robots through house.
Jim would side with the independent option
because he's a Sigma male who don't need no government.
And finally, Alex would side with the Legion
because he's manic and crackhead nature
would thrive in the Legion.
Yes. No, he's 100% white on that last one.
You are Legion.
As someone who's barely played in Vegas,
what's the Legion?
I don't remember.
They're like a slave nation.
Fuck.
Well, the Legion is just like they're modeled after like Wom, Womans, Legion.
Yeah, they like take over a place, harvest the people that live there and use them as slaves.
Okay.
And then like brainwash them, gaslight them into being loyal soldiers.
It's your foreitarianism.
Right.
Yeah.
Most extent.
Is that what the four like different?
Yeah.
Then obviously NCR is just like capitalism.
It's just the old world order of just normal capitalism.
Then Mr. House is like extreme capitalism because he's a billionaire and then independent is
Independent. Okay. I feel I would see I'd have to be mr. house because it's my fucking name like I have to. Yeah
The guy even looks a little bit like you
Stick you in a suit. I don't mean I don't mean like the
the revealed what he actually looks like
See, I don't know.
You know, the, um...
He's a fucking...
He's a fucking...
He's a fucking...
Fish from Spongebob.
Yeah, he looks like that.
Really?
Yeah, I mean, like, the screen.
You're a shorter hair that isn't, like, kind of...
Boom.
Yeah, stick you in a seat.
I reckon he looked like a fish from Spongebob.
Yeah, that's, that's like the review.
And you...
Yeah, I can see you as an independent.
So, whenever I hear about the story of this game,
it makes me want, like, a...
remaster, retinkery, so bad.
See, you have to just get past the shit gameplay.
It's not hard.
Or mod it or something.
You don't even want to do that.
But modding that game is difficult.
Yeah, I can't be fucking movered.
You need like a coding degree.
To be you again.
A realistic ad, 915 says.
Recently my grandparents started talking about trans men
in a very overtly right-wing manner
and all I could do was stay silent.
What do you do when a family member says a somewhat political statement that you fundamentally disagree with?
Um, I, I, I, you know what I do?
I ain't no fucking bitch, I'm going to call them out on it and I'm going to challenge them on their position.
That's what you have to do, because they're uneducated.
Like, my parents are right wing.
My parents consume that most obvious white ring shit.
Mm-hmm.
So all of the information they get is from right wing.
So it's obviously all fucking incorrect.
So I'm just going to be, I point out like, this is fucking wrong.
like this is obviously wrong here's why like there's if your parents are like ignorant to
it you have to educate them but if it's like your uncle that you don't know all that well
and he's saying this shit what about your like grandparents that are like so set in stone
and they're just never gonna listen yeah that's the thing like it's it's different if it's like
your parents and closer in a family than is your own totally and also sometimes you do need to
that like you can't change people you shouldn't expect yourself to change people it's not about
changing it's about just making it so they don't talk about that stuff openly yeah like they
can talk about whatever they want in the house but if they're being fucking homophobic transphobic
whatever in the streets they're being horrible I would rather stop that then then whatever
if you can't change them make it so they're not being horrible to everyone else I kind of
assume this was a situation where it's like in a home
Like if you're in a pub or something and your family's saying this shit
Just be like let's not talk about this
Yeah you call them out instantly and be like no stop
Yeah yeah
That's white that's what you should do
Yeah
But if it's in your home environment
And it's like an extended or older family member
It's just like
How much drama do you want to deal with
How much effort do you want to put into
Yeah but it also depends on what type of person they are
And all political discussions can get needlessly inflammatory where, like, you're not even talking about the subject matter anymore.
Yeah, just screaming each other.
Yeah.
But not even then, like, it can just be, oh, I see you as thinking this way.
Like, I see you as a Tory.
So I'm going to make these assumptions and just put you into this bracket in my brain where I don't have to think about it too much.
And they're doing the same for you
As a liberal
So nobody listens to each other
So the whole thing just ends up being pointless
But then you've got to fight that
To actually
That's what I mean
It depends on the person
There are certain people I know I can actually have a valuable
Discussion with
And I can like
Actually listen to what they're saying
And take it on board
And process it
And they can do the same
For what I'm saying
But when
When someone's not like that, it is pointless.
You're throwing shit to a wall.
And if you don't know someone well enough to do that,
you shouldn't be expected to just, like, change them.
No.
Yeah, because, like, the commenter, I associate this kind of thing,
mostly of, like, grandparents where they'll say something, like, stupid,
some throwaway thing they've clearly, like, been saying most of their life.
And then, like, in that moment, you've got to be like,
do I, like, challenge this right now?
Or is it just not even worth it with, like,
yeah and the treat of the matter is like people get left behind they always have
and like if you're like acknowledging that like yeah I've broken this cycle of
whatever this like thought process is I can feel secure in that somewhat yeah do you know
this this I've been in a terrible situation because of this like this wasn't my family
this was a friend of my family so they they were in the lounge just talking so I just you know
walking to be social
and whatever
and I sat there
for a bit
and then
they were talking
about like
healthcare
in the UK
and because
their friend
the friend who
was talking about
this family
is like
dependent on the system
and then this person
was saying like
super white wing
stuff about
free healthcare and shit
and I just said
like something
like you know
healthcare should be free
it should be
accessible to people
and then his
instant response was
oh were you
fucking lefty
go fucking go to
Venezuela
go there
look how fucking good it is over there
went down the fucking deep end of it
like shouting at me in my house
aggressive yeah
that's exactly what I mean
that's not putting you into that box
where they don't actually have to engage with what you're saying
they're just putting you in that area
and be like oh that's that's
all of everything you have to say
just like
valueless in my mind
yeah it's like
you can't argue with that there's no point
interacting with that is totally and utterly
pointless
and I just
I just sat there and was just like
just let him fucking love you and I was just like
cool it's like what
yeah the worst ones
yeah what it means is they're they're like
majorly
uneducated in their opinion
because if they can't actually
have a discovery
I can actually have a bit of a tennis match
in terms of yeah here's my point
oh here's my counterpoint here's my counterpoint
instead of it's just
instead of just you're a lefty so you're wrong
the thing I like the political
political discussions can be fucking
incredible. When you've actually got someone
who's actually competent enough to,
like not getting angry, just talking.
Like that's great. Even like people on the,
I've had discussions with people on the left about it
and it's just like, it's just a good discussion.
It's just, why are so many people
so like, it's like a side?
You've got to pick a side.
And if you're talking to someone on the opposing side,
they're your enemy.
It's the like tribalism thing, where it's like human.
Yeah, yeah. It's probably part of a group and then.
Us versus them.
Yeah, yeah.
So petty.
I hate it
Yeah it's exhausting
But yeah don't bother
Older family
White Wing members
Just don't bother
Well then saying that
I do enjoy talking politics
Yeah exactly
That's the example in my head
I'm thinking of
Like our grandmother
Will never like
She might have a bit of banter with us
Because like we have a relationship
Where that's absolutely fine
But like when it comes down to it
She's interested by our perspective
and I'm interested by hers
like totally different time
totally different opinions
so that is a valuable discussion to me
I'm with you
let's do this one from Alistair 13
with the release of the new Little Sims album
sometimes I might be introvert
Is that what I'm going?
Yes
I've been getting into more British rap
What are some of your guys' favourite
British rap albums slash rappers
and do you prefer British rappers as you were from the UK?
I've listened to a lot of grime, grime, drill, whatever you want to call it.
You know, British rap, English rap, whatever.
I've listened to a bunch like A.J. Tracy, Dutch O'Evelli, Stormsy, a few others.
But of my favourite, Stormzy is incredible.
He's got some unbelievably good songs.
and I feel that he can be really consistent.
But he's quite mainstream for, like, grime.
So he's not super, like, deep into drill, whatever.
But I think, like, if you're getting into, like, UK rap,
Storms, he's always a good shout.
And I think you, you two need to listen to more Stormsy
because he's so good.
I would just say British rap in general.
I know, basically nothing.
Yeah, same.
But in saying that, I was going through some Little Sims today.
because I'd been hearing about how good this album is
and it's fucking amazing
she's she's fucking great
she's so fucking good
I started on her previous album
a grey area
just the whole album
fucking awesome
yeah I like that
some of her music is
is quite jazzy it's quite slow
it's not it's not like a hypergressive
was a good mix on what I heard
yeah
yeah really like distinct songs
really good wordplay
I'm just so glad that I saw what grill is
it's like it's open the door
I've seen her twice.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's such a great performer.
I immediately wanted to listen to her music.
Yeah, yeah.
But, yeah, the UK rap and American rap is so different.
And, you know, I've listened to a lot more American rap than I have it, like, British, UK rap.
Yeah, same.
I can't, like, I was listening to a lot of rap.
day actually i was going through everything doom kendrick freddie um dr dr dray i was going through
two back going through so much and i just you can't beat them american rap is so fucking good
you go from like you know to pimper butterfly good kid mad city and then 444 and then dr dr
dr drey and doom it's like you can't that they're on a different level
Yeah, I'm always looking for that wordplay
So
I think it's my favourite for that
It's just ridiculous
Yeah, his ability
His writing
Ability was just unbelievable
Yeah, but then the actual beats and the samples as well
Yeah, layered on top of it
It's so good, so powerful
Actually, why we're technically on the subject of rap
I have gotten into Tyler a lot recently
and that's because you
you have it on in the car
when we go to like Stainsbury's or whatever
so I've like I listened to
because his new album's come out recently
but I was listening to Igoor today
so I recognize so much of it
because it's just been in the background
while we've been doing things
you will have listened to that whole album
like 20 times over at this point
that Fred Tyler's great
really love his album
my number one
honestly just artist
on Spotify at the moment
really cool yeah I can't get enough of his
specifically
his latest two albums
Eagle and call me if you get lost
any standout songs
a lot ringing your mind
what's your name
wise
yeah Corso
earthquake
New Magic Wand
it's just songs that like
no matter what mood, no matter
where I am, what I'm doing
I can put one of
any of those songs on
and just like...
I find that they mix.
Like, my music tastes in my library
and I'll just go on random.
I have a stupidly obscene
variety of music.
You know, be slip, not one minute
and then, you know, Trump Resner
and, you know, Assassin's Creed soundtrack.
No matter what, no matter what song
listening to, a Tyler song
will always slap after.
always no matter what and i think that's that's magical yeah yeah i need to listen to more
of his stuff um i'm so i think i'm in a similar sort of position to james where i think i've
basically heard those at least those two albums yeah those two for sure just from being
and like half of a flower boy yeah but i need to like in my own time go through the albums
like properly and actually digest yeah and actually i don't know have you listened to
Frank Ocean?
No. I've never listened to
his solo stuff. You need to.
Because blonde is, it has
it's got that same type of thing as Tyler's
those two albums.
It's just got that type of vibe and I think
he would like it. Is Frank Ocean
a rapper
or a singer?
Singer, I believe.
Yeah, I don't see. If you want to get into
Frank, listen to biking because it has Tyler
and Jayzeean.
And that just, his
blonde is a fucking great album
and he's really good
because I was listening to them like Tyler
Frank just going back and it's just like
it was the consistent vibe
so I'd really recommend listening
to Tyler and Frank
Let's do a couple more here as we round off the show
Rip Fluid
can be our penultimate one
What are your opinions on the beach
I've lived by the coast my entire life
So it's interesting to hear the opinion
Of you boys who live in a land
locked town
I think you said this last
episode
I can't swim
I don't like the beach
I like to swim
honestly in the UK
there's no point going to the beach
there's not really an option
there's not much point
yeah maybe if you've hardened
enough through cold showering
you can you can manage the
sorry the ocean
like for me beach is like beach games
like volleyball and kind of that stuff.
What do you think of the actual location there?
Because I find, I love the beach.
I love the sound, I love the smell, I love the vibe,
I love it like on a sunny day and shit being lazy.
It tickles the brain.
It's like feels correct to be there.
Yeah, it's meditative almost about it.
It's just the sound of the waves and.
It's something about moving water.
Yes, it's just relaxing.
I don't like the beach
but I like the beach at like 11, 12 o'clock
A deserted beach at night
That's next level
That's dream
That's what dreams are made of
When you go like on holiday
And you're walking down the beach
And it's like the fire pit
It's like romantic
It's calm
It's like incredible
I like that
But I'm not mad about
Like when you picture crazy tourist beach
Yeah
hot it's dead of people that's lame that is lame to me that's not fun that's just suffocating i don't
like that i don't like that yeah but the thing is i don't like sand
bro i've got i know a place that's perfect brighton those pebbles between your feet
i like a pebbly beach i hate a pebbly beach go to brighton anyway yeah yeah i'd love to go
the Bryson but yeah
genuinely like it's
it's a Star Wars meme at this point but I
genuine I hate
sand I hate what it's about
I don't like it between my toes
I don't like it no sand can be
fucking terrible when it's so hot
that it just you step on it's burning
it's just oh
when you say you don't like sand there's kind of all
different forms of sand you know
it's like fine sand it'll stick
to your feet I hate sticky
sand I hate wet
sand, I hate dry sand, I hate sand...
Why, though, it's nice, you can, like, walk around barefoot, get all, like, sludgy feet.
I'd prefer to walk around barefoot on concrete.
That's crazy, man.
Do you know, what's one reason why I hate, I hate sand, and it's, I don't know how, but I, this is one of the only things from my childhood that I actually remember.
We went to the beach and had peanut butter sandwiches, and I dropped them on the floor and I was just like...
All the, like, childhood things you eat on the beach are, like, sand magnets, basically.
Yeah, ice cream.
Sand hot dogs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I wonder if that's one of the reasons, because, like, I just remember when you get sand in your mouth, it's how...
That's it.
It's staying.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And I also have a core memory of being, like, sat in the ocean, like, up to my waist, but sat on the sand.
Mm-hmm.
And then this wave that was bigger than all the rest just crashes into my face, like, straight.
down my mouth down my throat damn perfect angle yeah salty ass water and it's just like oh
shit yeah i think shortly after like flossy was there she'd been drinking the seawater and she's just
like vomiting everywhere and i turn to my mom and i'm like i need some water and she's like
gone haven't yeah i just drank it all that no that is the worst because it's like you're in a
you're so uncomfortable and there's no escape
yeah I just had to accept I like I wasn't even like upset or angry or anything I was just like well that's that then but you were literally salty yeah I was so as fuck and the other thing I have is like when I'm on the beach when people go to swim because I've been to the beach of people who like swim far out I just start panicking it's like but have they drown because I just I can't swim so it's like imagining these these people just like so the thing that
fucks me up with that kind of stuff is I'm terrified of undercurrents I hate that idea so much
of like you're just swimming and then just from underneath just the sea is just like no fuck it
wait what happens with an undercurrent then you get sucked under it's just what does that mean
does the imagery not well I don't know if you're saying like you get swept out
into the middle of the ocean
and you get sucked down?
It's the currents
Like, is it a whirlpool?
What's going on?
You've got the currents
of the top that move the sea
and then at the both you have
just jet streams of water
that's just a current
and if you go there
you go
Yeah, James gets sick
You get sucked
It takes you
Where does this happen?
I've never heard of people
Just being sucked under the ocean
Just to like some
Do you not remember the horror stories
When we were young
In Cannes in the river
People died there
Well, no, that's a place where there's like a miniature waterfall
and people were like sliding down it and then getting sucked under
because it's a fucking like waterfall.
Because the undercurrents of the...
Cairns.
Yeah, because it's like a waterfall.
The thing is, but typical beaches won't have undercurrents because it's perfectly sandy.
Like only, like, undercurrents are most...
Like, I'm not a geologist, but I'm sure like heavy undercounts are normally
one like very wacky
you know the edges of the beach
because then like Australia
like a yeah some places in Australia
yeah Sydney and like you know
there's lakes in America that probably have it
as well it's like those type of formations
is when you get undercuts and not like perfectly
sandy beaches
but I'm no geologist so I can't say
for certain yeah
scary waves
that make you do a flip
I feel like waves you can sort of
tell
Yeah, but if you misjudge a wave
Well, yeah, you get a face full of salt
Well, you get the old flip
Yeah, but I mean
Yeah, but that's just like a scary moment
Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying this is like a reason
To never go into the ocean break
I'm now just on a line
So undercurrents are a reason to never go into the ocean
Yes
That's a valid reason
What other reasons are there?
Other reasons, it's really scary
it is scary there
unless the water's perfectly clear
it's scary
and it gets scarier the further out you go
yeah i've never been that far out into the ocean
i've not either
yeah because you start getting the stomach sinking feeling
of like oh there's like so much beneath me
the thing is i ain't a great swimmer i'm like
i'm like a
a rock
I don't know.
You're the rock.
I'm sort of the rock, you know, just like a dense...
Do you know?
No, I don't reckon he is.
I don't reckon he's a great...
He's like heavy.
Is he too big?
He's heavy and...
He doesn't have great, like, mobility.
You know how ships, you know, a ship, they like calculate a weight of a ship by how much water it displaces.
How much do you think the walks of water displacement...
Yeah, that's how he swims is like fucking David Hazelot from the SpongeBob.
Yeah.
That's as strong his legs are when he kicks.
I'm not going to the sea any time soon
No, I really want to go to the sea site
But I'm happy to just be in there
Maybe put my feet in the
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'll do
Yeah, I'll defend the bags
I do want to go to the beach
Because I want, I want like new memories of it
I haven't been to the beach in actual years
Like years and years
It's been a long-ass time
Especially because in the UK it becomes like a mad rush
Like as soon as the sun comes out
It's like, fuck, get on the train
It's like you go on the motor
it's like a four-hour delay.
Yeah.
And everyone has the same idea at the same time,
and everyone just gets...
It's like, we're so deprived of sun.
It's like...
Yeah.
Fuck, right.
Let's end on this one then from McThick-Wide.
Did Alex ever get back into drumming?
Also, what's James' favorite jazz album?
Stung gets.
Actually, I started looking up at...
Wait, say that again?
Stan gets
Really good jazz artist
Anything he's done
It was right before the first lockdown
I was like properly looking into like lessons and shit
But then when it's locked down
I haven't thought about it since
But um
Yeah
I would like to though
I have though
Damn
I've mastered it
I've mastered it
Yeah I've mastered it
I'm in a band
Little indie band
Known as
The Rolling Stones
Replacing
The Late
McJaggart
Not Mick Jagger
He wasn't the drummer
And he's still alive
The drummer
The drummer of the Rolling Stones
recently died
Yeah I saw the video on Twitter
Paul McCartney saying
Rest in peace
So
You know
A little good
gig, I've kind of snatched up.
Probably should have led with that.
It's the sort of thing you bring up at the start of the podcast.
Well, it's no big deal.
Well, thanks for listening.
You hope you enjoyed this episode.
Tell us how, what you think about Mike Tyson paying a gorilla.
Paying the gorilla.
Just sex.
Yeah, that's, that would was what would be that would, what would be that would, what would
it fair as if the gorilla got the money or least like could trade like he gets
the money but he could trade it for something he gets that money in banana yeah just
didn't have seen grand's worth of bananas yeah he's like six and the rest just
rot and he's happy yeah you know he can give a shit yeah like gorilla you know have a banana
have a banana be happy i used to say
live like a dog, but now I'm going to say live like a gorilla.
Live like a gorilla.
