JAR Media Posdact - Halozzard Spacedonda - JARCast Episode 238

Episode Date: August 2, 2021

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Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and the other ones, all of the other ones, welcome to episode 238 of the Mellow Fellows, the Mello Fellows podcast. We're a group of mellow fellows, Jamie being me, Alex being Alex, say hi Alex. Hi. And, uh, and, uh, I'm not pouch. No, I was, I was beckoning to pouch over there. Yeah, and, uh, pouch, I guess. Hello. There he is.

We gather every week and we talk about, you know, the, what the new battle passes. Yeah, the new battle passes, politics and war crimes. We talk about what's important to the everyday man. Yeah, yeah, before we get too deep into the show and start cleaning our house, just want to shout out your beautiful faces over the Patreon for keeping us going, getting us on Spotify, iTunes, and all that. So thank you very much. And a little bonus extra videos.

And now and again, we've got the Jar Jar video going up. We've actually got a few in the pipe at the moment. really i'm really hyped about yeah there's some goodies in there i think so they will be released on patreon early the next month you'll a week early so head over to patreon we embarrassed ourselves in the jar jar video with some of the uh the memes we forgot really we're like what is this like one of them was do you remember it was like something to do with magic and we're just like what is this like weird science it was yeah weird science yeah weird science yeah weird science Yeah, and we're like, why is it say weird science?

And someone in the comments reminded us, oh, it's because instead of writing strange magic, that George Lucas movie, you wrote weird science, because it's like an inverse of it. How the fuck would we ever know that? Yeah, why did we do that to ourselves? You could be like screwed ourselves over in strange magic. No, it's doubly confusing because, like, science and magic are opposite, but weird and strange magic. Strange, like, what do you call it? What's that word that means, like, the same thing, but a different word for it?

Uh, an asanen. Yeah, an asanen. Do we have a dirty house, Alex? It's filthy. There's actually a pile of compost down there. Oh, that's still haven't vacuumed up. Um, from when Argy pushed a one of the plant pots over. Yeah, Argy likes to dig.

Um, let's head over to the housekeeping segment. will we clean up some of the nonsense from the last episode. Um, Goku eats so many burgers. It's going to get us going. This is in reference to us. Throwing out this idea of perhaps going around Halloween sort of time and making a scary woods video.

So they left a comment saying, I can't imagine anything scarier than walking in the woods at night and hearing three guys doing a podcast. Can you imagine? That's true, actually. Someone stumbles across that. Like, this is the weirdest haunting ghost experience possible. That's why we need to look like ghost hunters.

I feel like that would put anyone at yours. But what about if someone else has got the same idea? So they go there the same day. They go there to find ghosts, but they see us and they think we're the ghost. And then we chase them. Yeah, and vice versa. Yeah. And then you have to watch both videos to see the full story.

And we can, like, limit it to a Patreon only. No, we should. I want to do this. I need a scaring. I need to be scared. You need a scaring? Yeah, and that's the only way we can do it. It's by going to that woods. That's pub.

At night. The god left one in regards to this camail battle concept. It was what... How many non-ripped camels would it take? To take on a ripped camels? Yeah. Nijiani. Just wanted to add to the...

whole Camel debacle. As a martial artist, I would say there is a certain number of attackers where once you exceed that number, they cease to be really useful in the fight, and are more like subs on the bench for when the attacking weak camels get nailed. Ten is probably the maximum number of effective fighters in a 1V group fight. You've got five surrounding Jack Camel from all sides, and another five as the rear guard in the event Jack Camel breaks through the front ranks. There's also some sneaky martial arts techniques you can use to reduce the effect effectiveness of greater numbers. In a 1V group fight, the best possible strategy is to always position Jack Camel so that there's a weak Camel between him and the rest of the Camel horde. Staying on the edge and making sure that the weak camels are separated so you can take them out one by one is the safest, most reliable strategy.

The weaker camels could overcome this by going for a scorched earth tactic, where they just throw themselves onto Jack Camel and overwhelm him with a sheer volume of weaker camels. As for whether Jack Camille would have more fighting skill The result of his MCU training I would say it kind of depends on how he was trained Even show fighting has better form than your regular non-fighting fella The biggest issue I would say that comes with training for show fighting Is that you're actually getting trained to pull back and avoid making contact This can make your street fighting skills worse in the long run

Because the training would make you unconsciously pull your punches and reduce Jack Camel's damage Compared to the statistically weaker Camel As always, thanks Mingus for the great cast. This raises an interesting question. Say this question was about us, the us against a writ version of ourselves. Would you sacrifice yourself so that yourself could prevail? In this situation, I guess, yeah, for the greater good and all that.

So I've got to prevent Roydway James by sacrificing... Yourself so that yourself can beat him. no i want i want i want i want wide ways james to win but that's not the real you so you would sacrifice yourself but for a different reason yeah you'd sacrifice all of ten me's all of you yeah for one void wage james

okay and there were obviously lots of comments about this shredded ripped thing um review tech armenia left the definitive comment james is obviously wrong when it comes to the shredded versus ripped debate. The action of shredding means breaking something to fine little bits. Hence a more toned body of littler muscles. In contrast, ripped connotes separation into large sections.

Therefore, a rip person is someone with a larger but less toned body. Please admit you're wrong, James. This is pissing. You chose that comment because it goes against me. There was so many comments for either side. It was basically split down the middle. He's just read the first one, James. Don't jump on his case.

No, because he said, What did you say before you said it? I just said it's the definitive one. There you go. He's biased. He's biased. He's picking your side because your brothers. No.

There's no, no, don't, don't, don't do this. No, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, what would you mean? What are you doing? No, we need to, we need to go to the official fact-finding fucking part what we did here, you know? You're Stephen crowdering this right now No, I'm not, I'm not Stephen crowding this I'm going on the chart Twitter

He's not debating the actual topic He's just claiming bullshit on the... This is the divide This is the divide 51 to 49 That is Brexit This is just a Brexit boat Between ripped and shredded It's not definitive enough

It's down the middle No, that description Put into words exactly everything I was trying to say And the people have said the same From my argument It's too down the middle No, read a good one.

It's too down the middle. You would have saved it. Find a good one. Put forward your point of view that debunks this one and I'll join your side. But until you do that, I'm afraid that can't happen. No, it's down the middle. It's a Brexit vote. That's all it is and that doesn't prove or deny anything.

Who's this commenter? Review Turk Armenia. Review Turk Armenia has just rocked your world and ended the debate. He's right. sorry bro no we're delving in though we're no we're delving in no we're not delving in we are no you can't you can't pick this

you can't you don't you no it's already you can't just come into this set with a clear bias a clear favorability to a member of the cast and then yeah I was of course he had a bias you're forgetting my part of the conversation was I don't care about the results

of this one. So why are you picking one that favours Jamie? No, Alex had a... He's picking the one that he read and believed to be true because they put forward. I did, I read through every comment. Did you read the ones on Twitter? No, no Twitter ones. This is just Reddit and YouTube. I never look at Twitter for the jar-doll. The same ones on Reddit that proves my point.

It's not definitive enough. It's 50-50. We're both white and we're both wrong. Accept it. Child. I'll accept that I'm right. No, you always accept that you're white because you're in your little high-hawn. all the time. The joke.

Addictious man. A goob shoe riot has um I don't know, another one on similar kind of lines. Um, I wanted to be like my idol the beast. So I decided to try out the cold shower thing, Jim was talking about. I usually save my shower for after a walk slash run. I don't run it too hot because I'm really sweaty so I'd say it's a warm shower. I did like he said.

Cut off the hot water. made the water cool and just let my feet get, sorry, start to get wet. Raised cold water a bit and it was chilly and gave my feet about 10 seconds until I was used to it. Took some deep breaths, worked myself up and jumped into the water. Like he said, it was horrible. Shaking, uncomfortable, my whole body's screaming, I hate this. I started spinning like a top. Crazy I know.

Because once water hit my side of the body would flip to the other by reaction and vice versa. I counted to 20 and jumped out. To confirm, Jim was right. Trying off after was like a one-wipe charlie. No scrubbing with towel, neck cramps slash shoulder pain started fading shortly after two. I'm intrigued to continue trying this. Any advice from Beast? Do you do it daily? Is spinning around so water keeps all sides? Okay? Got a different method? Let me know. I think you might be onto something. Um, first of all, I can't take credit for this at all. I didn't like invent cold showers.

and yeah every time I shower now I finish it with a cold shower my advice would be to emphasise the breathing before the cold gets introduced really get into that rhythm of it

because like if you let your body take control that's a that's a tricky way to go you kept saying it because I've been I was intrigued, obviously, just like the jarlings, of this concept, this idea, and I was reading all these articles about these health benefits that are supposedly come as a result of it. So, yeah, I kept forgetting every time I was having a shout to do it, but today I remembered. This day of jar, I remembered to do it. And, yeah, I didn't even have any of the negatives.

It was just all positives for me. And I went from the most extremes. I was even thinking it was probably dumb, and people probably shouldn't do this, because I have really have. hot showers. Like I put it up to like the highest temperature. I want to feel like I'm being like scolded. Like it hasn't been showered. It just makes me feel so clean for ever reason. So I'd have my normal shower at that insane heat and was like, oh yeah, the cold thing. I'm going to do the cold thing now. So I just put my hand over the temperature gauge and just span it the other direction. And then it just went cold and I just stood there while doing the deep breathing thing.

It was like, it's like a shock, but like a nice shock. And then you very quickly adjust to the See, we've got, I think there's more to this because I've previously tried the same technique But every shower's different, why they all have different ways to change the temperature Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So mine has between 10 and 1. I have it on 1.5 all the time I never, I can't go above 2 if it's extremely cold, I have 2, but when it's on a normal warm So 10 is the hottest? Yeah, so you only have it on a 1.5? Yeah, that's a cold showers, is it not? Yeah, but I'm, the way I do it is almost like going in a sauna, then jumping in a swimming pool. Yeah, that's the two extremes.

Yeah. Is it as warm as a swimming pool, though? Well, when you're going from a sauna, a sauna, which is like 50, 60 degrees. The pool would be cold in comparison. I've done that before. Yeah, yeah. But did you turn your tap to full cold when you switched it? Yeah.

right so it's even colder than jumping from a shower to a probably yeah there's that small period where it changes temperature but it goes to cold yeah yeah yeah so yeah i i wouldn't want to do it that way myself yeah how long did you manage to stay in the cold i counted i got 20 seconds okay and then you did you like feel uncomfortable you wanted to get out it just felt right. It was like, yeah, this is sort of enough. I don't need any more of this right now. Because, yeah, I mean, I did the same, I've

been doing about like 20 seconds every time, but today I was, I had a cold shower for about three minutes. Yeah, so all ready, so how much time has that ramped up? It's been like one week. Yeah. I'm pretty sure the last cast was the first

day I had a cold shower. I reckon a big part of it, because for days I've been like ramping myself up telling myself when I do this I'm just gonna go in I'm not gonna like dilly dally I'm just gonna go yeah yeah so when I came to doing it I just had to do it and then it was over and it was like awesome is something you you just need to turn shower every shower to a cold shower if that's your only shower then boom that's that's what you want to do um well I mean there there are circumstances when you shouldn't like like if you're already cold but that's realistically not going to really happen if it's the middle of winter if it's the middle of winter I would have to have a long warm shower and then cold

because yeah it's only my first one so I can't really say what the major benefits are but it's like it's you know normal shower is refreshing yeah but it's that like times 10 it's like you're re-energized you were totally re-energized and the second you like step out of the shower you feel cleaner yeah yeah because that yeah because i would

always have showers so hot yeah like you're just like your pores are just like yeah yeah wide open sweat just like yeah yeah no i'm into it man i i'm liking it so far it's made just just talking about it's making one to have another shower before going to bed just to do it again yeah because i i was always someone that was like oh i got a shower like that's something i have to do today but now it's like oh i'm gonna like get this moment vitalize yeah Yeah, because you can't help but, like, move when you're in the shower. Yeah, you can't stay still. Yeah.

So just that in and of itself, it, like, energizes you. It's healthy. It's not something where it's, like, you need to read stuff about it. It's, like, pretty much common sense that it kind of is like that. Any sports star does it for a reason. Why would athletes, athletes at the prime of body fitness do it? Why would they do it? Yeah.

Why should you do it? but I wouldn't say like if you want to get into cold showers just turn the the shower on cold and jump in and have like a full shower and you soap and stuff you don't want to jump into this stuff to where you're like going to scare yourself away from it because then you'll go in you'll try and like use soap and shit and be like no I'm done and then get out the shower yeah yeah it's horrible shower first yeah you need to you need to want to do it as well yeah what you should do is if you have your temperature on like 10 like you put it on four, have a popper shower at four because that's still a lot colder because going from 10 to 1 is, that's a whole huge difference. If you're going from 2 to 1, what difference

is that? If you're used to 2 on a scale of 1 to 10th? Surely there needs to be some contrast. If you're starting at like 2 and going to 1, is that as much of like a shock to the system as like a... I think a cold shower is a shock to the system no matter what.

If it's straight up cold water, it's just like getting into the sea in England If you put it this way Up until 1500s Everyone had whole cold showers and cold baths

That's literally how people cleaned I think they really had showers Buffs I said cold showers and buffs The sponge and stick They would have cold showers in like If they're in Asia waterfalls Then I would win a shower

They did If humans have done that Most of their existence of our existence and obviously there's reasonable... But the thing is there are benefits to hot showers. Like?

Like it's good for... It's the same thing as a sauna. It's good for muscles. It is like good to sweat and shit. You know? We should just... If we've got a gym, why don't we have a sauna?

Do both at the same time. Just get loads of like radiators and have them going. While you're working out. Kill us. We'll kill us off. That's like a style of um yoga i think

but they like just make the room so boiling so you're just like sweating no that's nasty yeah i don't need to do that that's one of the reasons i i like i prefer summer to winter but i prefer being cold to being hot i hate being sticky i hate being sweaty

and gross and uncomfortable which is what it was last week i said well i've never had like frostbite or anything so Don't. Solvable. Where have you had frostbite, bro? Do you not remember the winter for a few years back?

It was like fucking minus like seven outside in the morning. I rode a motorbike in that have no fucking gloves on for a 14 minute. I stopped on the side of road ones was vomiting because my hands were that fucking cold but I just was fucked. I stood there by my exhaust. They must have gone like purple. Yeah, they were. I stood there by my exhaust pipe just hands over it to add a little bit of heat.

It was fucking un... One of the worst things ever. Most painful things. I've chopped flesh off of my leg. Head concussion. Cold hands. Same level. I fucking hate cold hands.

Yeah. Well, speaking of cold, I got some... Cold video game takes over here if we want to move into topics. Cold? That's her. You mean hot?

It's a hot take, Alex. Not a cold take. No, it would be cold. Halo Infinite. We've got to start with this, I guess. I don't think it needs to be its own video thing, because, I mean... I'm going to say, who actually cares? Yeah, here we go.

So the... It's not a beta, it's like the... A flight. No, what it is... No, it's a technical test. A technical test, a stress test. all of the people who've been allowed into it have been it's based off of their like um

the insider program and yeah PC stuff it's like if you have a shit computer you're more likely to get in because they want to test that that how it the game runs on shit PCs basically well I got the uh the flight on Xbox series X or whatever so what we're recording this Friday so it's only been out two evenings

so it's live right now um but I think I've played enough to sort of understand what I'm dealing with here it is a two-month-old out-date build which I don't understand why if you're trying to sell your game which is what this is trying to get interest for this game why would they use a two-month-old build that they've said has bugs in I mean they're usually old builds aren't they for these type of things they have to like take a slice out

polish it up separate so that side of it doesn't bug me too much but it's more it seems further behind than even I anticipated um and it's just it's another three four three hala game in my mind it's for me and what I'm looking for out of halo I don't think they understand it fully um how can I fully explain just their anger just they're what they're going for individually you can break it down and there's parts of it that are like yeah this contrasting it to what they've done with this franchise yeah these are steps in the right direction but for me it's it's similar to like destiny where it's like yeah like nearly 10 years later you're like making steps towards the

right direction but like it's been it's been 10 years you've had the IP for longer and we still we're only just scratching the surface of a halo game that's beginning to go back to the roots of what Halo game is and even then there's a bunch of shit that's like questionable about it like you know grenade hit markers the way sprint is implemented the way equipment works just the general look at the game my helmet designs the entire UI just the aesthetic in general the art direction in terms of the design of the armor and whatnot is is better it's an improvement and it's channeling Halo Reach and Halo 3 and whatever but again I said it in the video we're talking about this multiplayer reveal from E3.

I just don't get a vibe that 3-4-3 have a true vision for what their halo is. Their halo seems to be, and I found it weird when they were doing this multiplayer reveal video thing on Twitch or whatever. The whole aesthetics, like, based around Halo Reach. It's like your new Halo game is basing its visual identity, and its like first season is going to be a Halo Reach season. I guess I don't understand what Halo Infinite is because when you play it even it feels like a kind of stripped back version of Halo 5

with some of the more bullshity elements taken out of it but you still have ADS, you still have that weird the soundscape, the way weapons sound, the sprint animation, there's just so much stuff that is just, yep, it's three for three halo, it's I don't know why I bought into that marketing of when they were teasing this game.

It's the exact, it's just a repeat. Peter Failure 5 in my mind with the way it's like showing off this open world and like this new engine this new tech and then when you actually jump into it and it's like what this game was supposed to come out like a year ago what is going on with this game and

yeah I think they're definitely scrambling but I want to hold off judgment for the most part because what we've experienced is like just an arena map like a

4 V4 Team Slayer I've never really been into that I've never liked that part of Halo I have always liked that part I loved it in Halo 3 specifically I really love like the lone wolf playlist and everything and the way really memorable maps in that and the way

like ghosts and mongoose were integrated into that just the just the weapons too so what what they said in that trailer they put emphasis on they're trying to create the sandbooks like the original Halo games because that's what everyone loved. If you're focusing on this sandbox,

why would you show your first playable demo be such a tiny arena where there's no sandbox? Over the weekend, they're supposed to be adding a few more maps and modes or whatever. You should go out of the gate, big team battle. Vehicles, tanks, whatever. That's what I mean, though. I don't want to cast judgment

when it is just like a stress test. you know like if they're doing a stress test they're not going to want to do a 16 it's i think i guess for me i'm getting hung up on it is the first impression of the game really in terms of us connecting to the game us playing it yeah it's weird especially contrasting the way Microsoft have shown off their their big triple a ips before be it halo 3 be it halo reach be it gears of war 3 these games all had like beta even halo 5 having these beta's way before the games were coming out and just

but when that gears all three beta dropped like the state of the game it was like oh I feel like I'm in good hands with what I'm getting here it feels confident like what they're doing how they bring it together even Halo 5's one felt more confident to me even if the direction was not what was after this is this is where my problem is that it does there's no confidence in this what we're getting they're not showing what people quite like probably

Halo fans probably are going mental over this or whatever but it's like I don't gain I don't gain I don't gain any like good impression from this. This isn't what I want from Halo. Because it's also it's like, okay, sure. Even if I was loving the way the game was coming together in terms of how it was feeling, I really think reward systems are important and the way they're implemented and the way you interact with them.

And from the backwards as fuck, like UI design and their menu systems, they are so bad and it's so weird considering how much they love Halo Reach because that is just a perfect you are in my opinion for a halo game um i can't believe how like truncated and awkward this whole like battle passes and these like weird systems that they've like introduced that where you can't like choose your color anymore you've got to like unlock colors now which is destiny one to fill battle passes with you're just like destiny two launch isn't it yeah kind of yeah it's kind of close to that yeah the thing is i haven't played a game with decent progression in it since like

Monom Warfare 3 Mm-hmm No, that's not true What You've played cod since Mono Morpher 3 And they're all the same Cod hasn't really changed

Yeah but I don't like those cods really Yeah but you still play them There's multi-plays Um Yeah like I don't expect Good stuff from progression systems Anymore

You know But that's what is so bizarre to me Because the whole appeal of that multiplayer and what you're grinding for is to customize how your character looks, how you're sparring. Yeah, yeah.

No, it's a total waste, but I'm just not surprised that Microsoft are just copying. It's the same, it's the same, like, style of making games that HALA 5 was. Yeah, which has just followed the trend. Yeah, what was it then, it was PACs.

What is it now? It's battle passes. Yeah. It's just the same shit, and they're just going to abuse it as hard as they can to make as much money as possible, but, time they have the justification of it being free to play yeah yeah yeah sure i can see you have the best

of both worlds or whatever yeah i messed around in this like training thing where you can like spawn down and use the weapons and whatnot um yeah i tried out a bunch of the newer guns i i like the new brute guns or whatever but there's something off about the sounds in the game that it doesn't it's it's not right to me um especially the needler sounds really bizarre Yeah, I just am not into the way the 3-4-3 Hilo games feel or play I think this one feels better than 4 and 5 It feels like a huge improvement And playing it and seeing it

It's made me more confident for the campaign Because the gameplay's more fun The multiplayer I don't care about I've said it all along I think this gameplay with a good campaign it could be good because I think it's got the ground

it's got a good foundation that's yeah I mean we'll see what they've been doing behind the scenes if this is a development's been reset like three times

and the seven years or whatever just like destiny or any number of these type of games basically like every Halo game apart from three yeah um yeah there are some

there's one specific thing I really don't like and uh That's how effective the assault rifle is at, like, longer ranges? Mm-hmm. When I was playing it, I proved that the aim-down sight for the assault rifle doesn't need to be in the game. If they're across the map, you just shoot. That's a lot of the feedback I've been seeing, though, is, like, people thrilled that ADS is pointless, and, like, no one uses it.

But, like, I'm fine with that. Like, if the left trigger is bound to that, for whatever reason, then sure, have it there. You could always zoom in, like, when using the assault. assault rifle you couldn't shoot with it zoomed in but whatever it doesn't affect the gun but it's still really effective at long range if you don't zoom in like the assault rifle the assault rifle shouldn't occupy that space no you know everything should have its like thing it's good at and then it's up to you to like maneuver and manipulate people so that you get the advantage but once again this was a tiny map so it might if it's not going to work on a btb map

yeah it's like it's just another I think it's but I mean you try doing the the same shit you were doing in Halo 3 that you were doing just now in you get fucked time to kill seem pretty quick

yeah no it's too good yeah it's just like a half half seconds even too long like a quarter of a second too quick you know because as soon as you get the shields down they're dead and it seems like in halo 3 once you get the shield down it's a novel battle to get that head shot you have to

precise in that moment it's and when it comes to first person shooters the TTK can make or break a game if it's too high you ruined it if it's too low you get war zone yeah and I'm getting more war zone

vibes from it that's another question because I noticed you can like you can punch now without a weapon yeah there's a button to drop your weapon and there's a button to drop your weapon now

and there's a button to drop your weapon, is a battle real coming? Yeah, it's going to come. There's no way they can compete in the market about it. Do you think they're designing, like, the single player maps to work in a battle real context? It makes sense. It's like a big open world. Yeah.

It's possible. I think... Why would they keep it such a secret, though? Because they want... It just seems weird, like, if you're going to be influenced by battle reals and add all this sort of battle real shit... Maybe the, make a battle real. This is one of the things, yeah, is that just them at some point, maybe that was like the train they were chasing and they had to abandon it?

That was a rumor for a time. Yeah, it was the rumor. But why would they still have all of the elements of a battle real if they're not chasing anymore? Because you can just remove the no weapon thing. I think about like, that's not like a hard thing to fix, I don't think, to remove that kind of feature. But I'm just going to say, because obviously this is the multiplayer is a free to play. and the free-to-play market is dominated by Battleware House

how are they going to compete in that market well this is the thing right because like when I think of like a respawn respawn entertainment they are like one of the top dogs in terms of just how shooters feel I don't think three for three are

top dogs in that regard and the same even with bungee they they don't have that same feel that respawn is going for but they are able to create that sort of 30 seconds of fun gameplay loop that is fun and rewarding, which I don't think I've ever had that scratch by the 3-4-3 hila games.

I just don't think they're that good. If they don't have the loop and they don't have the best gameplay, what do they have? And, I don't know, it's just... I also find it a bit weird that they're testing battle-battle-pass stuff in a technical test because it shows they're the priorities

the store you can see that they're very prepared in terms of it's all laid out it's all there and everything and that yeah all that stuff

is just the UI of apex yeah yeah whereas like all the stuff they've had to actually figure out for themselves but the thing about apex though is they've like monetized

around that super addictive loop they have of the battle Royale game mode is the arena mode in Halo Infinite strong enough to keep people hooked Well the thing is it's not just the arena mode

It'll be the arena mode it'll be the big team It'll be the all the other I guess flyer fights in the game Riftball Probably not at launch Well yeah this I guess this was the this was the moment For me where I was like

Okay I think I know what we're getting With this game In this reveal stream thing they were doing where they were going through all the UI, and there was a clip early on where they punched someone in the back, and it wasn't an assassination. So everyone in the chat was like,

what, their assassinations not in it then? So, of course, there was a segment where they had to address it, and they were like, yep, assassinations are not in the game at launch, but they will be coming at some point, so that's something to look forward to. No, no, they're coming.

They've been removed from the game to be put in a battle pass, the same way Apex does it. They're being removed for Battle Pass, reasons there's no other explanation for it that's a staple of halo why would it be removed is it I'm not getting good advice on the way they're doing about it it seems they care more about the store than the actual game you see I think that depends on if they have assassinations in the first battle posts if they don't then it means

they're like they've been scrambling that hard that they haven't even been able to get assassinations together I think but like no matter where you interpret that is bad, no matter which way. Well, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And it just makes me think, so, like, what baseline video game have you been working with for the last seven years, whatever? Mm-hmm.

Is it actually been more of a mess than we even figured? Because at the same time, the game's coming out this holiday, which doesn't have a release date, probably because COD still doesn't. But we haven't seen a single player once. You haven't seen Forge. You haven't seen any of the stuff you'd expect. And it's...

I think this is going to be a game where it's not going to be launched in a as a full-clock package. Yeah, I was reading through some of the like feedback and whatnot and there were so many people saying like, yeah, I'm on like the newest PC hardware and I can't get above like 40 frames on this thing. Which, yeah, is a technical test and everything.

Yeah. Honestly, I'd be fine with this game being delayed again. At this point, yeah, do it. I don't think they're. can why they've they've done it too much it was just supposed to come out of the start this year and it's things have changed though since uh like the last hala release and cyberpunk came out and who wants to be the next cyberpunk yeah so if they so what about if they do delay it what's what's going to be the change are we going to get content on launch are the

assassination's going to be in the game or are they still going to be so unclear what the game even is so like what is actually being delivered is just a huge question mark pretty much we don't even know what the campaign like how long the campaign is or anything yeah i yeah so my my take is i have no more faith i'm still just as trepidacious if not more um and i definitely still would not pre-order this game yeah i wouldn't pre-order it i've seen hailer stuff on my feed constantly and there's no difference between Halo players and Destiny players they're still so hype they're so excited for this game and it's just like this proves nothing this technical test does nothing it's we still don't know anything about the

game so why why is everyone so hyped about it as if this is like proving something the game's going to be good it's not though we don't know that it's just that same game of thing now where it's just like Stockholm syndrome it's all these people have they believe in the game so much where

even the smallest thing just will change it will make it good yeah I don't know I don't know it hasn't made me any more or less excited

it's just meh I hate using the word but it's me it's like a flat line it's all it is there's no difference yeah which I'm gonna say

Halo reach beta that wasn't a flat line no that wasn't on there everyone got mega hyped from that yeah because we actually knew

what we were getting there was actually a game there yeah that was a thing as well where I remember I don't know

if it was just because I was like 14 or whatever when the reach beta came out I just played it as much as I could until it wasn't available

with this I played one game one game and was like that would be yeah If a beta can't get you, start like an addiction, start like an obsession, which, like, in Halo Reach for me was, like, what was so alluring was this new, like,

unlock system, this credit system, this unique way of, like, being able to go down different paths to our grade. This battle past shit, like, I can put up with it in apes because it's, like, free to play, and it, like, works for that game. I suppose this is free to play, but it is a Halo game, too. I just... Yeah, Battle Pass can never be exciting, you know? No. It wasn't even exciting the first time Fortnite did it.

Mm-mm. You know, it's just not something that you look at and it's like you feel intrigued and you want to get all this stuff. It's like, oh, they've put the objective best thing at the end because that is what is valued because of... Because they put it there. So that's what everyone wants.

It's not like reach where it's like you, you get to pick. Yeah, you have multiple choices. You can save the money. You can choose the different helmets, the different upgrades to each one of those helmets. There's loads of different paths to go down. See, and it's worth saying,

and we've talked about Apex a lot, but we've all, like, finished the season. We've finished that season because we just enjoy playing the game. We're not trying to complete the season. We just enjoy playing it. We were playing it yesterday, and we had a really fucking good time.

How many seasons has it taken Apex to get that battle pass to like just an sort of acceptable like steak I bought the first season I got a level 57 in it yeah and even then there's still a bunch of like tat and guff in the season pass

yeah but then you look at the halo season pass XP boosts colours a sign that should be in the game XP boosts and colours and that's the majority of the guff in the season pass

sorry but that's not fucking acceptable And does this mean if I pay for the game, if I were to buy the game for the campaign and then wanted to play multiplayer, I can't make my Spartan pink? Yep. You know, because it's because then I have to pay more to... They did have like a bunch of base colours as already unlocked, um, shaders, whatever they call them. But we saw that pink was in the battle post. Yeah, I guess it would be like a different shade. Why can't you just have like a color wheel?

well yeah why do colors have to be taken from us why does everything have to be taken because it's not just the i think what they're trying to do is they're trying to have the you have these presets of colors it'll be purple but tiny parts of the armor will be pink and you can't do that to your armor unless you use that skin yeah yeah so it's like locking off parts of the armor to paint through the battle battle yeah because you said there's that one that looks like the n7 that's like a shader we just get like a red arm yeah yeah so I think that's what they're trying to do they're not locking colours they're locking places

to put the colours yeah I think it's lame considering how they've advertised this game and kind of hyped it up on their own so if it does fall flat on their face and crumble it's completely their own fault you know

maybe it'll find its audience and connect and come together in time for launch but I am feeling good about it right now yeah either way due to it being free to play it's going to have a player base for quite a while and they're going to make changes to it if it sucks at launch where it will gather oh yeah it will be like just a different game in two years yeah totally even in one year it's going to be just something else so even if you like what is available now don't get

attached yeah but i'm i'm kind of hyped for launch in a in a weird way because if it's bad i want to it's like i just want to see how people react i'll see if they they're going to say it's No, it will be better. We've got to have hope. It'll get better. Oh, another thing that was standing out as being really, really, really bad. Was there, like, dialogue right, in the quips, the...

Don't, don't, don't. In the training mode, like, when you do get, like, a high score, there's, like, these cringy lines, this, like, character saying, like, oh, jean would have loved that. It's cringy. It's actually... It's genuine cringe. The Spartan, like, banter or whatever in matches.

You can turn it off in the menus, but that's, like, the default on thing. I guess most people would just, experience I get it in Apex because like when you revive there's a character shooter though as well yeah they use it to flesh out the characters

yeah which is good that's the way to use our system not quindy comments the guy you're playing I should be like your guy you know he shouldn't be saying lame shit spanker over here yeah I don't want to hear that yeah the thing is what is that system there

Gough Guff for the battle pass Oh and you've got your What did I compare it to earlier Jim The fucking Domino's app thing Yeah the AI Yeah you're like Spartan AI Yeah

Like I said It's just Guff They're not things to make the game better They're things to make money Yeah and get a Domino sponsorship So you can have Dom the Domino's AI appear in your hand

I think when games Have stuff like that purely as content for Battle Pass, you're making the game wrong. You're supposed to make games for fun. When you're adding things to your game only to exploit it for money, your game is completely flawed from the ground up.

The one thing I will say, the checkbox they are ticking that I've always wanted from Halo is some way to fight AI. I think it's cool. It's like the one thing Microsoft can do is use their stupid, like, ridiculous power and wealth to just get these like AI all this like random AI driver tar tech shit like just injected into their games and the potential of like hoarding people's data

to make these like scary good AI Halo enemies you can fight see this is what this is what we spoke about on the halo video but it's just that forge make the best forge rod as possible sell the game yeah because that was always the thing that carried this whole old halo games was the community management Halo 3 and Halo Reach had such huge just like community games and even Halo 5 at a certain point once they finally supported it had it

if that shit's there on launch it could like it has the potential to be giant they ain't got assassinations on launch but that's the thing so if they might have all droids but they the AI and bots that might be a year down the line yeah and yeah

I just don't like the way that this is kind of gaming now depressing do you think it's indicative of just like it's becoming so ridiculous in terms of how expensive it is

to make games on this scale and how to like monetize it properly and get it. I don't think it even needs to be as expensive as they've made it for infinite.

Yeah because they're like directionless and they don't know like what they want from the get-go. Yeah it starts off as one thing oh let's cram packs into this let's just design everything around packs oh shit

the climate's changed everyone hates pecs look at this thing they're doing this battle pass thing let's design the whole game around this thing oh look god of war like reimagined itself they they did like this one shot cut scene throughout the whole game let's do let's do that as well yeah it's like okay cancel oh no one likes how our halo games look let's make it look like halo reach yeah yeah everyone loves reach right everyone love reach multiplayer reach multiplayer reach multiplayer was the best multiplayer, right? That's what I mean about this identity-less thing it's got going on. Yeah.

Yeah, there's no... Halo used to be the franchise that everything else wanted to beat. Yeah, no, it's copying it. Cod4 was nicknamed Halo killer, because they really wanted to beat Halo. You know, like, it was it. Yeah. They made, like, multiplayer shoots. Now with Halo just following the leader.

Yeah. And not just, like, following the leader, but doing it, like, years late sort of thing. It's, like, pretty embarrassing. It's not a good look. No, that franchise should be walking to the beat of his own drum, you know? Yeah, maybe after Halo 5, they should have just gone away for, like, 10 years. Yeah, but if... Well, actually, that's basically what they've done.

Just about. But why does Halo need to have this, like, these packs and shit? when like god of war can be made no dlc just a game released spider man it's got a few like story dc's whatever but it made its money on the the story

the single player released done all these games like it is possible part of halos identity is the multiplayer but you can design multiplayer and then just leave it I mean I understand if you want like constant updates and stuff then sure like have monetise it in some way but why does it need to be to the extent

that it is? It comes down to greed. 100%. They've designed it around greed. Yeah, they designed the whole game around drip feeding money from you. And it's, yeah, it's disgusting and I'm not really interested in games like that. Yeah, when it's so

overt, you know, when the balance is all like off and it's like... Yeah. So like, what are you actually like making this original here that's like what's the reason to play this game? you know yeah see I I've put a decent amount money into

Apex I've bought the skins I've bought packs I've bought battle passes but the game's designed to be fun and it's fun have you put more than 50 quid into it

yeah I've also put over 500 hours into it though 10 pound 100 hours yeah I've put like 10 quid into it and I it's I think it is my most play game on Steam

It's mine Into Apex It's the whole whale thing Yeah So it doesn't matter about players like you You know They're only getting like 10, 20 quid off of you Because the people that do buy

Every legendary scale But the thing with Apex I want to give the money Because they don't crunch their team They're respectable dev I want to give money to a company like that and not to a company that's Microsoft is making their game to make money

and that's why I'm okay it's just like all the new seasons come out oh I haven't got enough I'll put some more in another five pound another seven pound that's fine because it's just like

you know this is a good team this is what should be supported in the industry not games made to make money every game's made to made money but you know what I mean with pay it's about the balance when it's like just so obvious

hmm have anything else to throw out there before a mid break delete every fucking blizzard game never play a fucking blizzard ever again fuck blizzard yeah actually yeah fuck blizzard guess what because obviously they had the

whole walkout today and I ran on my PC I was at work I was just like oh yeah I've already deleted every blizzard but if you do have just fucking just fuck them off you don't need to play them they're shit

I don't think I have any what about the only one I have is second I've installed the launch I've uninstilled all the games What about Sekiro, though? That's the only one. Is that exempt because it's like a Japanese team that's like... I mean, what...

But what do you mean by, like, a Blizzard game? A game made by Blizzard, published by Blizzard. Just anything under their corp. Why? Because of the Blizzard stuff going on. Like the sexual shit. I don't think you should, like, punish... the devs

who are getting money from Blizzard No, but it's a case of like today when they're doing the walkout, don't play their games because how are you going to stop their fucking exploitation of their work as if you're still playing their games? That's the like idea behind it. I don't want to play Blizzard games anyway. I thought it was the Blizzard devs.

Like the guys that were remaking Warcraft 2 and stuff. It was a mixture of a bunch of the cod devs yeah that I can totally believe that those studios have been totally fucked um recently but yeah no I heard like the the guys remaking Warcraft one of the Warcraft games like they were just crunched to absolute shit yeah there was actually so much drama that's come out of all this yeah you don't even know where to begin and it goes like so dark in some of it. It's actually like fucking horrifying.

Yeah, it's weird. I heard this. The one story I heard was that a staff there, she killed herself because she was so severely abused by the management like humiliated in meetings sexually. It's like, yeah. And then like, will I go back to a Blizzard game? Probably not.

No, I think it's not on, at that point, it's not on the customer. No, but how but it is. No, it's on, it's on, like, you need better HR, you need like unionization and shit. Yeah, but they're hiring

a firm that busts unions. They're doing the worst fucking possible thing against the workers even now. There should be steps we can take against that. No, but this is the thing. But if you're, if you take your kid into a shop

and they're like, oh, I want this game and it's like fucking Warcraft too, it's not on the customer to do the research and find out the, like, But if you care about the industry, we live in a capitalist society, you protest with your money, you don't play it, you don't buy it. That's how we protest. That's the only way to make corporations change. We can have all of these walkouts.

The only thing that would make them budge, though, is if, like, every cod player stop buying cod. That's how it falls apart is cod players don't care. Like, the game is sort of switched on reading about, like, lawsuits online. It's not the same people of, like, the people we play cod. if we've got to go to cod is mainly played by people of the lad pack culture the type of people

I think cod is just played by people of course it's huge like it's just people that want a video game and they want to play a video game after work it's just easy to understand and play of course but if you think of the

Ladpack games it's cod and FIFA no it's Fortnite and Apex but you know what I mean they don't care about this they will never care about this but again they don't know well yeah of course they don't know

because they don't care about the industry but I'm just saying that if you actually care then you shouldn't support Blizzard as a result of it because that's how we protest I care this is disgusting behaviour I'm not going to sit here I'm not going to sit here and say I fucking care and then go play a fucking Blizzard game

I'm fucking deleting them all I'm never fucking playing them again, because otherwise I'm a fucking hypocrite. So you think we should delete Sekiro? No, but here's the thing about Seko. It might be under the thing, but it's like, it's a Japanese development team in Japan. Because that's the only one in my mind, and I guess the only time I've given Activision money was when they were partnered with Bungi.

But I mean, there needs to be stronger laws against this shit. Like, that's... There won't be, because they're in a... there needs to be that's what we need to protest again because like in ubersoft there's lots of drama in a similar and that's they're not even in america they're in europe yeah and the guys who made uh that ellen page game another french developer really um um you're on two souls yeah yeah that dev they had some they did detroit right yeah become human yeah yeah it i i i don't think it's a always enough to say though like you need to just advocate for change

because this shit like the best thing that is happening is like that it is becoming known yeah and these all these people are having to quit they're having to step down yeah and then people know going forward oh

if I do this shit I can be caught and lose my job so I'm not going to do this shit it's not like changing the video game industry too look at with this all this how yeah it's everything it's what it's going to come down to is people are just going to be more careful on social media. That's not good though.

It's not about being good on social media not being pigs. Yeah, I know. But I mean, like... The problem is... Rich assholes are always going to do rich asshole things. Yeah, no, but that's the thing. It's such ingrained in corporate America. This behavior is so ingrained. I wouldn't... I wouldn't say just corporate America

because this shit was coming up from... You know, yeah, just rich people. People with power. Absolutely power corrupts, absolutely. That's what it comes down to. And how would you beat corporations? That's what it comes to. down to by not buying them not giving them money that's how you win but then it's like what corporation do you not give money to exactly that's what i mean that i'm hearing that like my

whole life this this fucking moral thing comes down to all right my only option is to move out into the country and just like live off the land that's that's my only but i just know that we we as gamers we can just be like yeah we can avoid blizzard for a while because at least with them we're doing so yeah i mean blizzard wouldn't like we're not going to be playing legal legends any time anyway. That's Blizzard? No, that's why they're all for shit. World of Warcraft. Yeah, world of Warcraft.

Something of some... The League of Legends fans are going to get mad at me. You said League of Legends from Blizzard! Wait, are they not? No, it's why. They make Valerent as well. It's... It's...

It's... It's progress, because these are coming out more, which means the industry is becoming more wear but it's just like more needs to be done yeah and we're there's still so much left over from that like was such a young industry but like you said it's it's not just this industry but i i bet that didn't help like can you imagine what the office when they were making like black ops one like what that environment looked like i'm pretty sure it'd be pretty fucking different compared to what it's like now yeah yeah i just

I just think that we need to, even if it's a small bit, if you protest some way, in a physical way, as well as digital, that's still something. And I can protest that through how I spend my money. Yeah, like, do what you can to avoid. Yeah. Supporting the people that do this, but, yeah, it's not an easy thing to do. No.

But, yeah, support all the Blizzard workers out there. Yeah, apart from the fucked up one. Fuck them. Obviously, I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the actual people who have been abused by that system. But I think it's good to also be aware of these companies in general

so that in future you kind of know where it's just like... You know what? Next time, if you're going to buy some Activision bullshit-ass game, buy a fucking gay little indie game. Sick at all. Yeah, well, Sekiro. Sectoris fine. Or give you money to respawn.

They don't crunch their teams. and this is No, but EAS will I associate most with these kind of conversations Because this is the exact shit I was hearing around Not in regards to like lawsuits of this nature But in terms of speaking with your wallet type conversations With the like Mass Fair 3 day one DLC Yeah

I look okay let's admit I I fucking bought it Yeah it's easy to say into it's like the Would you you stop playing Apex if this was about like Reespawn? I'm going to say I'm going to say

I value my morals against everything Yes I would I would stop playing Apex I delete Apex But Apex is free to play and you could just stop paying for the No I stop playing it I can't I'm not going to play the game

If they're abusing their staff Like I'm very morally driven If I don't agree with it I'm not doing it That I'm that type of person I'm not going to support them or play because by playing their game I'm still technically supporting them I'm supporting their work

and no, if they're abusing their staff not playing it same with anything I consume but like for example every movie that comes out if it has like CG in it they're basically like slaves who aren't

you're wearing Adidas shoes they were literally made by child labour no but this is when this is the argument people use is you can't get away from it I can't change this yeah you can't change the system

but it's just like I can do tiny things because I'm not gonna stop this this is a result of American capitalism exploiting cheap labor and other companies countries

at a respawn abusing their staff in America's they're different levels they're not comparable you can't bring up my fucking I'd say it is comparable. No, but it's just like then... No, but that's the exact point you just made.

I've got to go live in the fucking desert fucking naked all the time and eat the shit I make. You don't have to be naked. You can craft your own clothing out of cotton, you farm. I'm going to have to learn to fucking farm. That's the least of my voice

is if I cock's out. Craft is. It's fucking easy. No, but you know, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's complicated. Stop bringing up straw men, you know what I mean. It's just... Yeah, that was my point earlier

though like you can't get away from it it's hard to draw a line sometimes and I draw the line where you know when I can't well I can because this is like a necessity for me to fucking get to places Apex is not a necessity

No build up calluses mate What build up fucking calluses No because I can't go into work A bare fee because I get fired Like I need these to go to work I don't need Apex Make your own shoes I need Apex

The game of Merchant needs Apex So I can choose to get out of apex because it's a luxury I agree It's not a luxury for the gaming merchant there Is it? It's actually his lifeblood It is, no, he's not, he's moving out to other content actually Really? Yeah He's trying to test the waters of other content

Like spillgate Splitgate Is portal, it's a FPS game but with portals On portal Oh yeah Interesting idea But anyway, you know the point this is the

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To the second half of the media jar mellow yellow where we answer questions from Redo Tello. If you want to leave your own Reditello's, head over to the Jiamedia sub. Like Brendan R.D. did. Who says, after seeing everything going on with Kanye in the last week in the live album listening party, what are your expectations for Donda? I don't have any.

This is going to be his best album. Straight up. So he's like living in a... He's living in the... Mercedes-Benz stadium So he's living in a stadium Yeah like in a In like the janitor's closet

Of the Mercedes-Benz Stadium Yeah there's like pictures of him There's like Yis in this In the stock room or whatever Yeah Really bizarre Really fucking weird

Yeah it's Because they announced the date And then of course like it just didn't come out Now there's like a new date or something I don't know He did do like a live thing. Yeah, but was it

as a result of this listening party? It's like, oh, it's not finished enough now. We've got to... No, I think he was just focused on that. What if... Maybe he's gauging the response to see what you need to tinker.

What if this is his best album? What about if him remaking it in the Mercedes-Pen Stadium makes it so... Just the best? To a level we can't even describe. Yeah, what if it's actually a sanction to the next plane more like Jesus King

No like Dundit Have you heard any of it Any snippets I listened to Because I was curious about this Jay Z, him being on it thing I listened to what I guess was like a leaked thing From that

Listening party But again it's like you can't really judge it Because it's kind of fucked up audio It doesn't sound well It's gonna sound different when it comes out um yeah i didn't really know how to feel about it to be honest yeah i've heard some some like snippets from it that i thought

this sounds like it could be really good and i've heard some snippets that sound like oh this could be awful so from that i'm guessing it's gonna be his best album george is not okay says hey guys a couple episodes ago you guys mentioned going to the gym and general exercise benefits I recently joined the gym just a week before the cast and I wanted to improve upon my mental health and physical health with it and gain some muscle

and I've really been taking on board what you guys have said in previous cast about how unrealistic the media's representation of a healthy body is and because of it I've had such a great time and I'm really proud of my improvements. Thanks guys for encouraging exercise with a healthy mindset and that. Also I'm the same guy who before this

did a question about body insecurity literally a month or so ago on the cast I feel so much better about it already Have any of you guys had a similar confidence boost Or self-esteem From any sort of physical exercise Going for runs for example Help me through lockdown

Keeping a good mental health See I'm glad this guy's going to the gym Definitely A grain proven and we love to see it But yeah I looked in the mirror yesterday Because we've been gymming And I looked in the minute

I was like yeah I like my figure There's a little bit more muscle growth I just think I look great I'm happy about that some nice protein poos yeah no but I would say with the thing of working out is just like you've got to eat more

I find that so difficult to eat because I just don't have them at the appetite to eat so much if you're used to a certain level yeah if you gotta start shoveling in more it can be yeah it's like I eat two cooked meals a day

and it's like I'm not getting the surplus I need it's just generally difficult but it's still good working out is still always a good thing. Yeah, I can't express how how incredibly good it is to

exercise. It's incredible. For the mind more than the body. It's, I'm going to, this is this is a meme in saying this, but it is the grind set. Because by exercising and working out, you want to do more. You're more motivated to do more because your mind is in a better place. Yeah, your, your body through

activity is telling your mind more, more, we need more. This is what we do. It's saying to your mind, we need to get up at this time, we need to like just use our body. So then you just build up this like energy surplus.

Releases endorphins. It makes you feel good. And yeah, it does improve confidence. For sure without a doubt. Yeah. You just want to do more. And I would say the important thing with working out is that you just you do need to rest your body when you can you need to have days

yeah don't go dummy with it yeah because it's like it's better to do like small things and work up as opposed to just doing one workout and destroying yourself it's the same as the cold shower thing like you've got to have this incremental buildup otherwise you're going to scare yourself off of it you're going to push your body too hard you're going to feel like shit and you're never going to want to do it again and you're going to associate exercise with feeling like that whereas if you do it right you build up

use the smaller weights. Don't be afraid to be in the gym and use the stuff. That's like a confidence thing, isn't it? Because if you go to the gym and use the smaller weights, you're worried people are going to judge you for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's not the cave. Yeah, because you know what,

they had to start there as well, the guys you see in there, like, wrapping fucking 30 kilos. See, no, this is... I don't even think you're ready for gym. Even if you're, like, going for like a 20-minute, like, power walk every other day or something. Just something like that, you know?

See, no, but that's the thing. Because, like, you... You went after a gym session, I was just finishing mine and you walked in and we were talking about it and you were like, are you using those rates to do that? And I was like, yeah. And you were like, you shouldn't. And that whole day, I was like complaining about really sore muscles on my back. Yeah, yeah.

And since then, you were like, you told me to just change and drop away and I have and the pain's gone. Because I was just doing it. That's what I, because my first day back is you two know, my first day back using the gym, I sort of went as if I never stopped since I was like 16. Yeah. You went in, far, hard. Which I did, I stopped for like years. So I pushed my body way too hard, and I was legit out of commission for like a week.

You were. For a straight up week, my muscles were torn. Every day I'd be like, are you feeling better? And you're like, no. Yeah, if anything, I felt worse, like, three days later. Because you just spent too, too heavy, too fast. It's not improving. And it's just like...

And since then, I've, I've pretty much been gradually decreasing the weight until I'm getting the proper form for doing these exercises, instead of like chasing the amount of reps I'm doing or whatever I'm trying to I'm trying to be healthy about it you know I'm trying to not just fucking wreck my body get it used to what I want it to do and then I'll do what I want it to do because no but the and the thing with workout is it's not instant results it takes a very long time you're not going to see like definitive results until like seven eight months later because that's just how long your body takes to get used to and to build up a good foundation of your knowledge

the way your body's going to work. Yeah, yeah. Like, I've seen small gains, but that's because I'm actually using my muscles. You're going to get, like, a progress high, and then it's going to level out, and then you start increasing. But you just have to, you have to stay with it.

Like, every day, every, my routine. It's a matter of months. But use YouTube as well. The amount of helpful stuff, even if it's just like, I don't know how to do a sit-up properly. Just put into YouTube, sit-up form, how to do a sit-up, whatever. And just like...

You have that guy, you can shout out. or whatever Well, there's a specific guy The guy who's Cold Shower tutorial He's got a bunch of Oh is that where you go from

Yeah, yeah A channel called hybrid Oh fuck I didn't know how to pronounce The other word Give me a sec Hybrid Workouts

It begins with a C Hybrid Cookoff Hybrid hybrid calisthenics okay I'm pretty sure he started off as a TikTok

but yeah he's got a bunch of great videos that like it's it's not like when you do you remember Mike Chang Mike Chang just this ripped dude

telling you to like chug on mashed potatoes in the gym and shit it's like you don't want a guy that's like super intimidating and he's like If you want to look like me

And he's like 6'10 Just built like a fucking mansion A shit brick house Yeah No this guy like He'll tell you how to get started

And all this stuff And little exercises You can do In the same way The Suppler The Mike Chang drink Yeah The Mike Chang

A milk drink Yeah No He's really good I recommend him definitely It's just The final question is just take care of yourself

and be healthy with what you do don't go too much just build up gradually just enjoy it enjoy doing it and enjoy feeling healthy you're not doing it for anyone else you're doing it for yourself

to feel better with yourself don't let clout anything get you away from that path don't let clout make you stout ah I was Zimmerfan 1997 has one uh mingas

just a quick question. A while ago, I'd guess two years ago, before every podcast, at least on Apple podcast, there was this advert that played with a weird hide pitch fellow advertising a company called WPB, sorry, MPB, or something like that. It didn't last too long

before the adverts disappeared, and you lads never mentioned it. Out of curiosity, what did this company actually do? Why did they think the PussyCast was the best place to advertise? Did you make some fat stacks? Did this actually happen? Was I dreaming? Thanks, I've been wondering. for some time.

NPB? We have no idea who this is. Oh no, MPB? What? MPB? MPB? Do you actually not remember? No.

Yeah, we know who MPB is, but no, forget about it. That's for us to know, and for you two, not. No, this, no, no, stop joking. What the fuck is this? um i have a theory as to what this is um okay and whatever we definitely made no money from whatever the fuck this was yeah it's something to do with the rsss feed and there's this like i saw it the other day when i uploaded a podcast there's like a little like checkmark

down the bottom that's like to like have an ad at the front i don't know how it works because like if ads do play we don't get any of that like it's not like youtube where like each ad, like, it's like feedback to the channel, whatever, something different on there. So I guess somehow it was, like, switched on for, like, a few episodes. So it's not, we didn't actually put that into the audio we uploaded. The company just, like, randomly put, I guess,

whatever this bullshit was in front of it. MPB. They're exploiting us. So during that era, that tick must have been, like, checked or something. And maybe it's not anymore. If anything, they took money from us. Yeah, they ripped us off, clearly. MVP.

We're coming. Men in Black International. J-A-R-M-B-P. War. Neo. Well, speaking of YouTube, it's actually big ones,

relevant ones. R-slash JAR Media left a comment saying, what do you boys think of Lucasfilm hiring the YouTuber Shammuk who made superior deepfakes for them for Young Luke in the Mandalorian and Carrie Fisher in the latest Star Wars films he's done a lot of other great stuff including deep faking

Mel Gibson into scenes from Fury Road um this guy yeah really impressive of this shit on YouTube it's way way way way better than the uh the stuff in Rogue One and Mantelorian and they've just snatched him up no I love seeing when YouTubeers are so

good at something they get hired because the guy who did the reload animations for Apex and Titanfall he just made reload animations online huh? Incod Apex and Titanfall But yeah he was really good And it's nice seeing that YouTube is giving people career opportunities

I mean if they can just do it better Like why not And especially if it's felt like their initiative It's like a big part of their new content It's the best thing for company Because you're getting someone very good But you're getting someone passionate Because they're only good

Because passion got them that far Here's the question there right I was thinking about this earlier And I can't believe it's something I'd actually suggest but should they patch Rogan and the Mandalorian with like better face swap? Yeah, without a doubt, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, only but just like on a philosophical level because we have such a problem with George Lucas tinkering with the original trilogy. Yeah. But I think it is different. It is totally different. It, I can't really think of another good example.

I think it specifically was something. mean like Rogue One, it pulls the movie back and it doesn't work, it doesn't look right. It like is actually wrong. It fucks with your head and you could change it to be way less distracting. Yeah. I suppose you can make the case for some of the things from like the original in the same way, but it is a different thing, you know, in my mind. Yeah. Taking an effect and improving it is different to just like adding effects.

Well, this is where I get stuck up there Because like, in Empire, the stop motion Torn Torn thing Someone could make the case We could do that in CG now And it would look better, look more realistic Or whatever But I would hate that personally

No, but that's not using the same effect And making it look better That would be changing the effect Yeah, yeah But if they're just gonna do the same thing But make it look better Because like it's just CG to begin with And then you can't like

yeah yeah if they were like changing it to stop motion then it'll be like okay maybe you shouldn't do that make that the main release yeah because that's the thing about rogue one that bothers me every time like I see clips from it yeah like that stuff just looks worse and worse as more time goes on because that text just not there yet that face shit it's like so wrong but this guy is really good look at check out his videos um let's do a couple more here uh earthworm gym 721 has one about Dead Space actually about our last episode's discussion

Yeah, yeah Comment for the barrel or crucible or whatever I'm putting it back here because I don't know There's more to say I have to say I cannot disagree more With James and Jamie on their Dead Space take Part of what makes Dead Space great Is the overwhelming odds of fighting away

Through waves of enemies Part of the core design of the game Is to set multiple fast-moving enemies of all different varieties on you at once, each needing their own strategy to take them down. And for that design to be balanced, you need the ammo and action influence. Taking out the action means redesigning the core of the game and losing what is uniquely dead space. Atmosphere can be improved with modern lighting and graphical fidelity, as Alex pointed out. As to what they're adding, EA said in a press release that they will add an improved story, characters, gameplay mechanics,

and more, the more being potentially cut content from the original release, just a rumor. If they actually do do that, it will be a different experience like Jamie was asking for, but without losing the cocktail of action and horror that makes the game Dead Space. Doesn't Resident Evil 8 throw a variety of fast-thieving enemies at you at once? But you're doing the same thing. I'd say Dead Space and Resident Evil 8 are probably on the same action level, to be honest. Yeah, and one has loads of ammo, the other doesn't. That's what...

Which one has loads of ammo? Dead Space. No, Resident Evil. I would say the balancing, from what I've seen, from eight, is worse in terms of that stuff than, like, Deadspers. Or at least equal in terms of the way it's, like, harder at the beginning. And the more resources and shit you get, like, you just can buy your way to victory in the exact same way. It's been a while since I played Dead Space One, but from memory, it's pretty similar. Yeah, I still want it to be scarier.

I understand That's so subjective though Yeah I guess I just want it to be more of a survival horror than Yeah Action horror Yeah I want to be survival horror But I understand the

The perspective I think it could work still with that Like keeping the core of dead space Hmm But Yeah because that's what I think of is that kind of overwhelming There's always just a couple too many for what you can handle type design.

Like you got two of the fat ones and like you accidentally shoot one in the stomach and there's like one crawling on the right that you've like missed out on. Yeah, that's what like the game blue loop is to me. And that's like, yeah, I don't know how much. I don't know. I just never really felt, is it because I was playing on normal? Is that like too easy? I never felt like I was being overwhelmed.

I never felt tense. with Dead Spice. Yeah. I never felt like, oh shit, shit, oh shit. It's just not my experience. Like, I was terrified the first time I played Dead Space. First. See, but I played it after seeing you play it.

Did, is that true? I can't imagine. I was so scared of it. I actually, um, turn the music off in certain parts. Yeah. Yeah, free me the fuck out. I'd like never played a horror game before. My memory of it playing the first time,

I had seen you play it a bunch, but the first time I was just like fine yeah because I guess it was it was the first like horror game I'd like played by myself too um yeah free me the fuck out so I guess it's just something represents something else in my mind

do you know it's a really weird horror horror game I remember I think it might have been on the BBC website on some other website but it was the boogey mind game Maybe in this older band and scorn, you've got one to, like the toilets to hide from the boogeyman. I've, I've tried to find it online, I don't even know it exists. It looked terrible, but it scared the living fucking shit out of me. So bad.

Kind of sounds like the Slender Man thing. Yeah, pretty much. Remember when that dropped, that original Slender Man game? Yeah, that game was... Yeah, we did. Yeah. Yeah, that game, way better than... piece of shit they released

but like sequel yeah keep it simple stupid that was like a phenomenon that was such a good little windy thing that was made for that let's do two more then bye bye bad man says

hello jar been watching since the very first cast phrases like quick quick fart in my eyes and no please in that voice Alex used to do constantly um do you remember what that is you've had lots of voices i can't i permanently etched into my brain sadly thanks for providing a genuinely really helpful and humorous group of people talking for the last five years of my life i cannot fucking believe it's been that long anyway i have a question i remember back

in the old castes and since they were ages ago i don't remember much but what the fuck was the son's eye i remember you always spoke about the sun's eye and i really want to know what is supposed to be. Sorry for the long message, Mingers. Hope you're all doing well. Lots of love from Cosmo. Thank you, Cosme, for the long time. The Sun's Eye. We still need to review the Sun's Eye.

We're not reviewing the Sun's Eye. Why not? Why would we? No, because this is the era. I'm going to say it was the era where our friendship was the worst it could ever be. The Sunzai era? No, because that was the era when you talked to me

but you'd be really secretive about the most fucking mundane fucking things oh you can't fucking reveal it and you would just constantly tell me james we need to review the sun's eye and i'd just be like what the fuck do you mean and you would just never tell me you'd never tell me it was fucking harassment you were bullying me clearly we did tell you because you know i worked out myself no wuben told me What's wrong with the little sun's eye little shit?

Yeah, I'd say this is a harmless white little light. No, because you've done this for so long in my life. No, I... This is one of your trolling things. You love changing the name of things and never letting you know. No, the one I agree with is Alex. Alex loved the, like, poo fart, a clock or whatever. Yeah, I took that too far and I'll admit to that anger.

No, but at the same time, James... James needed to learn that he was too obsessed with time. Hmm. No. He was. No. You don't, you don't do this. Hey, let's meet up today. Oh, what time?

Poo fart o'clock. And... Ha ha ha ha ha ha. No, you'd say poo fart o'clock. I would be sitting in my room waiting for fucking time. It would get to the fucking time. Then you'd just be like, Like, why aren't you here yet?

You never fucking tell me. I'd waste a fucking day. It would get at sometimes it'd get to seven o'clock. Seven a fucking clock. And guess what? I'd ask you what's going on. And you'd be like, oh, we've all been here for three hours. Everyone else, John, Rubin, everyone would be there.

But you just wouldn't tell me the time. That's not fucking bullshit. I'm traumatized by it. I'm fucking traumatized by it, Jamie. You've muddled shit up in your mind, I swear, because we wouldn't have communicated times outside of that group chat. We wouldn't have. We were all in the group chat. Exactly.

So unless you messaged Alex and said what time. No, because Alex routinely messaged privately about shit. He loved doing that because that was trolling. What do you mean I love doing that? No, you did. It wasn't that nefarious. It wasn't like to that level. Like, I just got the tickle from saying

Poof at O'clock and then I was like that to play in Holy Reach or whatever. Yeah, and you do that until it was past the time we needed to meet. Like, that behaviour, fucked up days we were supposed to see each other. Because you'd say, Poo Fart o'clock. And I'd be like, okay, tell me your time then. Pooh far o'clock. Then I'd wait till 7 o'clock and be like, oh, should we're not doing anything to you?

And you'd be like, oh, wait, I did tell you a time. And then we would do nothing all day. Because you'd just be like, poo, fat, o'clock. I fucking don't. I hate Poo Fart o'clock. much. It was the bane of my existence. It really did piss you off. I remember that much.

That's where all those legendary comments come from, on Facebook. It's there drowned and left. Because I was just so angry all the time. Really? That was a poo-fucking. But the thing is, you should have just turned up. You should, the second Alex said poof-up clock. No, because that's where we have

different upbringings. We've discussed this before. No, we do with different upbringings, but... If I'm not, if you don't tell me you want me there, I will not be there. I'm not going to assume. That's just the way I am. There's other people in Jahu aren't like that and we'll just show up. I'm not like that. I need a time. I need to know that you want me. If you don't want me. Maybe that's the lesson that Poofart O'clock was trying to teach you all along. You want me all the time. Well,

essentially. Do you want me all the time now? So if I just show up, you just can be like, I mean like, you know. Okay then. If you rocked. up, let's say I'm having a cheeky goon session at my place, and you rock up and say, let's go McDonald's. Likelihood is, I'm going to jump in that car, and we're going to go to McDonald's.

I don't need to be told, like, six hours in advance that we're going to... I do, that's how I work. It's just so I know what to do with my day. If we're going out at 7 o'clock, I can do this. It becomes spontaneous, bro. Just live life like a dog. I live like... That's my saying. I live

like the dog. Ruff-ruff. that no that was mine I fucking swear to God that was me no that was me because this was post mental health three years ago I said the advice is to live like a dog or it was Alex I've been living that way since I was born

it was fucking me it was Alex it was not Alex it was fucking me it was Alex it was me all right no he was Alex no he's the only one not saying it was him because he knows for a fact no it was me oh okay then so when I'd role play being a dog

eating chicken legs out of the then okay that's fine no but there's no I can't just be spontaneous no but it was me though I literally my

my whole week is judged by that I have to do things at X times I work 8 till 5 I have got to do different things at different times during the week my life is on a schedule you weren't working 8 to 5 when poof fuck a clock was being used

no I'm on about now we're talking about what the present were so I need need to know if we're going to do something on the weekend or after work on a Friday so if i know a time i can base things around that because that's something we need to do but then there's spontaneous times when it's just like oh we've just won in apex let's go to mcdonald's the second time in four hours spontaneous and i don't i'm fine with that but bigger things i need to know time maybe it should bring back poof out o'clock if you've

bring poof out i think james never learned his lesson no but there was there was a era i'd say a year or two ago where James started trying to do the poof out of clock thing to get me back I just love it I'd just be like okay

it's awesome see no but I stopped because it doesn't work it doesn't make you angry so I'm only I'm only playing into your hand and I'm not doing that

I live life spontaneously and on a routine because that's peak efficiency well this he's fasted us around it Absolutely fucking stinks. I want to fucking punch you in the eye for what you just said, for the record. What?

What? Just rewind like 30 seconds or whatever. I actually want to fucking roundhouse kick you in the fucking cheap. What did I say? Now you're giving me anxiety. What did I say? You said, I don't know, it was fucking bullshit, they. No, you can't just say it.

It was fucking trash. What, that I live on life on a routine and spontaneously? Yeah, because it's the most efficient. is the most efficient it's a we all live differently bro we all have different lives how i live's not gonna work for you i want to fucking spin kick you right into the fucking chest plate mate no do it then are you a fucking bitch or are you not efficiency boy i'm your bitch i love watching argue why you guys bicker how does he feel about it he's i don't like the way his eyes dart from people person yeah because he's reading the room he's trying to

no he's got serial killer eyes he does he's he's analysing all of us which one could I kill first I see you I see you side of watching you let's end on this one from your royal flyness I feel as though this needs to be brought

to the intention to you boys the Yogs cast as we all know and love and gave us the Yogs Pog have a special connection that brings the entirety of this arc of the Jarkas full circle the Yogs in Yogs cast is actually an acronym standing for

old goon squad. Wait a minute. And is the name of the World of Warcraft Guild where the members of the Yogscast met? Thoughts? P.S. Add goon to the Jar Jar, please, thanks. Wait, I swear we already knew this. I swear this has come up before. Or am I just having DejaVie?

Why would we have the year old Goon Squad thing before the whole gooning? No, like more recent. Like post-goon pre-tod day. This was the first time I've read this. I know nothing about the Yogs cast and the Yogs law in terms of that stuff, but isn't that really weird? Yeah, no, that is totally bizarre. We are the main characters of just life. Everything is building up to us.

Man, the world really does revolve around Jarre. Yeah. No, that's, it's kind of creepy. I'm wondering if, um, me stepping into the ghost room at that ghost time has just thrown the world off, of course. because what happened shortly after COVID Yeah The world's just falling apart Donald Trump got elected

That happened before then Literally the day after The day of The ghost looked like Hillary even The ghost sounded just like Hillary I swear it You entered another timeline What if I did

What if I'm What if your timeline me Is in the other timeline And this timeline me is in the wrong timeline It would make sense Why? What are you trying to say? You've changed. You're out of time, my boy.

But that means you've affected us. In this world, you've... Your presence... That means not only is Jarre the centre of the universe, but I am the central jar, which is the centre of the universe. No, I'm still the main character of Jarre. You're the side character of Jarre. Not anymore, my friend.

Is this... Are you breaking the fan? family up? No, we just entered the Are you breaking the family up right now? This is the reveal moment where I've been pulling the strings all along. Are you going to tell me to keep on driving? We watch Fast and Furious Nine

and it's fucking terrible.