JAR Media Posdact - He Got SMASHED! - JARCAST Episode 137

Episode Date: October 29, 2018

Matt's on Tom Feiner Good afternoon, morning, evening, our night, ladies and gents, and welcome to the Jile Media Posdact. The one and only. Yeah, so this is the podcast hosted sometimes by me, Alex, and to my immediate right, Jamie. Hello. And over there, James. The boy, the boy, James. So, let's just get this out of the world.

way. In the intro, we mentioned that JARCast is now on Spotify. It's also on iTunes, and maybe somewhere else, I don't know. That's the big, those are the biggest two, right? Yeah, yeah. That's what we're starting with. Well done, John Media. So...

We did it. Only took, what, two years? Many years. Loads of people have asked us to put the podcast on audio platforms. It's been a recurring request. Our problem was, well, if we're putting it on other platforms,

not to sound selfish or anything but we'd be making no revenue from it and JAR at least needs to pay for itself but we thought well maybe if we have a Patreon like just about every podcast does for the audio side to pay

for the RSS feed fees and whatnot so we started a Patreon as well for those who want to support the show that's Patreon Slack channel media just search jam media you'll find us um and it the same if you want to find us on spotify or iTunes this is all for free by the way um nothing's being gated off or or changed no it's just we've got a back uh like that we've only got five episodes on there at the moment from when

we set up the iRsS read um but obviously with every episode they're going to be uploaded straight on yeah so uh yeah if you want to find us on Spotify and iTunes it's just jar media posdact it'll probably come up if you put in jar media POSD Act for those Posdact is in P-O-S-D-A-C-T Yep I've found it by searching JAR Media you can just you can find it on it just search J-Media and obviously we're not the top result yet

but you know people actually listen It's no searching for it because they don't know it exists Although I was looking at the statistics and somehow Like people were finding it and listening to it Must be some hardcore fans I was expecting to see someone find it And then put it on Reddit and say Hey look look what I found this is crazy

But it might just be somehow they found it on iTunes or Spotify and they were like Yeah New podcast podcast So we have to bear in mind Like if someone gets their phone out and starts talking about something's on their phone Yeah we need to be in audio form now We have to be careful of that

We've always got to make sure that We're explaining ourselves with our ears Yeah, we have to explain ourselves with our ears So you've got to make sure now We've got to make sure And we're growing, this is our evolution we're becoming yeah

there are I think it goes back to about the audio one start about 130 there's a one of those

Patreon stretch goals um it's not that much but it's to pay for the the amount of work it would take

to put all the old podcast in to backtrack all of it we don't just have audio files we'd have to separate rerender every video

but as MP3s and then put them on the RSS feed as well so there was just a time consuming thing Anyway, that's that out of the way.

Yes. Welcome, boys. How are you? A nice Thursday afternoon. Feeling fantastic. We all feel like anime fans on prom night, am I right? Yeah. Because, you know, we can't get away from the fact that we're filming this on a Thursday night.

It is literally hours now. Until the release of Red Dead Red Dead Redemption. Which, to be honest, I haven't downloaded yet. Which is why the end of this episode is coming in about three minutes. so I've got 100 gigs to download in what tonight so you know wish me luck coming in from work tomorrow like

we're dead I mean by the time people are hearing this it's out yeah a lot of people might have already played it yeah I'm pretty sure if it's um dog shit and people it'll be funny for them because we're so hyped you know and they were and they got disappointed

so they're like imagine if we were talking about aliens Colon Marines just absolutely hyped next level hyped got those best pre best edition season pass preordered yep and then just like we did in real life just like we did none of us bought that game no but I find it funny how they like some mod found like a way to like improve the AI massively of the game yeah by just changing like a letter it's like yeah that's fine um I got this watch Alex what an Apple Watch just to annoy me. Um, yeah.

I've been, I've been saying for like months, well, my Apple Watch is in the mail, and every time, just waiting for James. And when you finally actually do buy it, you don't tell anyone. Yeah, because I've had my fun. My join me is over and I was like, well, this is all about Mina. Yeah, but you could have actually told me.

I'm pretty sure I did. No, you didn't. I think, no, it's, it's the boy who cried Wolf thing, where I think I actually said, oh, my Apple Watch is going to arrive soon. And you're just like, yeah, whatever. He was doing that thing He always does Well, when I finally believed it

We went out for a meal And a friend of our parents Asked you about the Apple Watch You just bought And I was like, hold on a minute Oh really, was that when you found out? Yeah You know what?

It's difficult to find out things We're saying that as if I've like Come out of the closet or something Oh, is that when you found out Because it's like It's equivalent to that Like Alex um like

he constantly jokes about buying something for months before and you just don't know because like before he got his car what were you saying you're constantly saying about we had on i3 weren't you? You were just saying it for months and every time I'd just be like no that it's just dumb that shit and then I just this is a 50 50 chance sometimes it's just I kind of want to buy this thing it's a little bit crazy I think it's a way of you like you've you've made up your mind it's gauging reactions yeah that's exactly what it is but that's the thing I don't do that I'm just like Although sometimes they do throw in like a curveball

just to troll people. Which, I can't remember. When was your last curveball? When was the last time you're like through something? I don't do it about often. You do? I'm an Apple shill, okay? I know that's what the people on the internet,

they hate Apple. They absolutely hate Apple. Why? I'm definitely one of them. Because Android's better, lull? It is better. Yeah, it's worse in every way. It's not...

There's no reason why it is. I'm trying to get people to flesh to our fucking Patreon. I mean, say her. This is the new Android watch. It's awesome. Actually, having... Did they do watches? Yes.

Having looked at them, I would say, I think the Apple ones are better. Really? Yes. How can you ever go at me when I'm anti- Android? But then James... Because James actually has, like... How many... You got five Android phones or something?

James just carries, like, five phones around. Okay, I have two phones at me at any given time. Okay? I've had... For the most moronic reason. No, no, because I think you're paying two contracts for the most moronic reason. Tell, tell everyone. No, no, no, that's not accurate anymore.

Because I've got the app on my phone on this phone, so I don't use my other phone anymore. So why you're paying... Wait, so originally you were paying for two contracts because you couldn't be bothered to change the bank app from one app to the other. From one phone to the other. Yes. Two contracts. Yes, at first, but then I stopped using that phone, but it was like a backup for data because sometimes I burn for a lot of data. My four gigabytes a month is sometimes not enough

So you need a whole other phone It makes no sense But it went out of contract last month And I haven't cancelled it So I should do that And save myself like 30 quid a month That's £300 a year I have for no fucking reason

And you complain every time We go out for a meal or something You're like, oh, got no money Then goes in place for two phone contracts No, I'm not like that You're like making me out as if I'm like What are you like then? I'm just lazy. Did that happen or did it not happen?

It happens every time we go out for the dumbest reasons though, because I have money, but it's just like, I need to buy engine mounts. So you think there's nothing me and Alex want to buy? Well, yeah, Alex buys an Apple Watch, you know? You just exist in it. James is a traitor. I'm not a traitor. It's like I get paid tonight. Paid James, same day as Red Dead. That's like, ooh! And that's a message if I ever heard one.

I have a topic for this first half of the show. Oh, really? What do we want to do? Do we want to do meme chat first? Should we get out of the way? It's only a short one, isn't it, this week? Yeah, it's been... No, it's longer than last week.

Really? Look at all those memes, son? I can see anything on that list. Four, five memes. Okay. Let me just drop this down for you. There are repeats from last week. Okay.

But they've stayed strong. So I go opening the loopbox, you get... another spray you get a duplicate intro a meme chat bro good afternoon morning evening or night and welcome to meme chat no it wasn't a good afternoon night evening or evening or evening or evening

um game on game no maybe that should just be the intro to it game on meme on meme on okay we figured it out um god damn that's embarrassing

all right so let's Let's just get these duplicates out of the way. TikTok's still going strong. TikTok's potentially the biggest it's been. It's been growing. I think it's been growing now because the meme is getting into it. The meme is, yeah, because of musically, there was no like period where it was sort of a lesser-known app. And it had to build to this point where Jacob Sartorius is a well-known celebrity.

but no it's it's just been meme haven from start to finish whenever finish is it a critical mass to the point where it's we're going to see a collapse a stock market crash as it were for the TikTok a meme market crash yeah um I think it's I'd say yes it's I think it's coming towards the end of its life cycle yeah it's TikTok life creativity is being stretched thin about I'm always getting recommended these cringe compilations of TikTok yeah it's it's like gone to youtube it's on instagram it's on facebook it's on the i don't know if it's on facebook i just said that it's on twitter um we got the skyrim one still

the destruction speech blah blah blah so they seem just really out of date to me they are out date and is it just because everyone knows sky room is that it i guess it can be funny though like you've said it depends on the actual point of being that once you've seen two you've seen them all Anyway, I'm pretty sure we said all that last time. Skyrim sucks. Game sucks, the memes of Skyrim suck. You brought up today when we were having our dinner about a lot of memes are just a screenshot from Twitter or Tumblr, or something like that. And sometimes it's just them saying something and then like a reply.

Yeah, that's it. A lot of them are like Reddit post comment from. post. Yeah. It's like funny. Yeah, it's like a funny reply. It's like, you think you're a mima, but you're just

screenshoting something funny that someone else did. Yeah. We've, they, I think they've been on Facebook for bloody ages, though, like that type of stuff. Screenshots of just Facebook convos. Conversations. A lot of the things that get screenshotsed, they're kind of,

they're like what, Jerry Seinfeld's whole schick is best around It's a lot of observational humor Isn't it? It's like, yeah Bitch be like What kind of

White boy be like Give me their grape juice That's exactly what white boy Be like Jim As Jim is a white boy He definitely knows that We're all white boys All the white boys

I don't like grape juice On the cast We all like grape juice I do not like grape juice I've never had grape juice I have it's not very nice Sorry controversial opinion I know but it's not very good

it's baby wine isn't it no well they made out grapes um really moving moving on this leaves two one is very brief but i've seen it circulating round and round and round right and that's the spooky garfield i'm not familiar with this one neither it's like it's like a draw what's some you know bloodborne is like that genre Lovecraftian Okay It's like a Lovecraftian Drawing of Garfield

And he's like Oh maybe I have seen that And he's like John I need lasagna Or I'm hungry John That's just like a creepy monster That's very funny Because of Halloween I guess

Yeah I would assume so We're only days away at this point Again It's not a meme of longevity Sort of flash in the pan As it were Lasagna in the pan as it were Yeah flash of lasagna in the plan

in the plan but decent enough and the last one is one that I've never found funny now before we started meme chat Thanos car was a meme

right a picture of Thanos car and it said on the top of the like meme brackets Thanos car and on the bottom it said Thanos car and now we're just getting memes of like say it's lasagna

lasagna lasagna lasagna that's that's the meme okay Fano's car is just a really poorly disgustingly modified pickup and it didn't even look like Fano's it was just a purple pickup it's just like

Was that what the joke was supposed to be that the car looks like Thanos Yes It didn't anyway but yeah I guess Well it sort of did it had like The stripy chin It had a chin But the rest of it didn't

So it was just like really tacky modified Okay But I don't Again that seems like one of those I'm surprised it stuck around for as long as it has. Yeah. Because it's not that tactile, is it? I want to say shout out to the JAR Media Reddit, who made one of those.

You know, he made fun of those memes where it's like, old thing makes fun of a new thing. Yeah. They made a couple jar-related ones, which were, I thought they were good. They were fine. I'll have to check those out. It was like a picture of, like, the Sardonnacast thing. And I said, like, talking about actual topics or something was JAR Media, made by Jail Media. Made by Jarn Media game.

What kind of losers talk about actual topics? And then that one on it. Hey, we do talk about topics like Hong Kong and China. That meme has stuck around, though. Yeah, it's slightly more tactile than we gave it credit for it. Yeah, I thought it was shit, but that's because the early memes, normally the early memes are the better memes of a meme life cycle. but more funny ones are coming out. Like you've just given an example.

So that's one that you shouldn't have taken our advice on investing in because you would have lost money. Well, you wouldn't have made money. You can make some pretty good ones here. Like, um, cracker mom, mom sucks made by cooking mama club. I don't know. Yeah, James just proved how versatile it really is. Everyone that just heard that is going to drop their meme stock.

Yep. That's how old. anymore? No. That Thanos car one was the last one. I can't believe that's still around. It's not... I want to get the point across.

It's not Thanos car, but it's still around. It's the brackets. It's like they said, lasagna, lasagna. The defective child of Thanos. Yes. The brain dead... It's like if Thanos car had a son that even he's disappointed in. And he was a disappointment to me.

Gamora's sister, what's her face? Robot woman. Yeah. Angry. The Dock 2 woman. The one who dresses up. Karen Gills. Yeah.

Gill from finding Nemo. Gill from Finding Nemo in Fortnite? No, no, no, no. Just then, you're investing in, you know, dead stock. Alex, you can't. No, Fortnite's done. Fortnite is not done. It's James.

You be quiet. I'm feeling it. Shit, that reminds me. Okay. Meme I forgot about. Oh, shit. This is breaking news It's not breaking news

This shit is old But it's sticking around Hardcore Big time It seems to be this app Where you type in your own lyrics And this voice sings it

Oh yeah Yeah And they're always about like I killed my mum Because she took my Xbox Control of it And I couldn't play Fortnite They're pretty much always that

Or My mum died But I stole her credit cards to buy a V-bucks, so it's fine. Have you noticed, um... There's this kind of new age, classic gamer versus new gamer...

Mm-hmm. War, almost? I don't know if war's a bit elaborate or not. Well, it's more of a Cold War. Yeah. The Old Gamer v. New Gamer Cold War. Uh-huh. We're coining it now.

Where... Once upon a time, I remember it. People sharing gamer memes everywhere. It was a proud moment to be a gamer because we felt like a minority. Back in 2006, 7, whenever it was. Facebook was full of them. I remember my friend's dad posting

out on his Facebook and thinking, even at the time, it's pretty cringy. It was that one where it's like, well, I choose to live one life when you can live many. Oh, okay. I'm not a gamer because I have no life. I'm a gamer because I have many. I'm a gamer because I

choose to have many. It's got the Skyrim one, the Battlefield free one, Baltimore Fair all of those just pictures just like... So now every... The punchline is always gamer... Gamer...

Gamer's bad? Gamer's bad? Gamer's cringy? Well, even gamers find gamers cringy now. That's the sad truth. It's like... Why? I've never liked the term

gaming or gamer. Never liked it. It's lame as fuck. And this... This transitions perfectly into my topic I had, actually. Oh, slam down that topic, bro. I want to talk. talk about um i listen to this podcast called um weird heat where they each episode they do an episode about like one word and their one word of the last episode was toys um and they

they spent most of it talking about action figures but it got me thinking about our video games like a toy do you think that's a natural progression of um action like action man action Barbies, all that stuff. Because it kind of feels a lot of that same role-playing kind of fantasy stuff that you go through when you're a child and you're playing with toys, doesn't it? Because it's in a different format, you're not laughing, people don't make fun of you anymore. Yes, in a way, I say it is. Like, we're all hyped for the fucking game where you can role-play a cowboy.

Yes, but that's not a tactile thing. I think a toy, it sort of isn't a way, though, because it's, you're using an input to get a response from the tactile, um, software. From the software, yeah. Tactile software? I'd straight up say it is because, as a kid, my main toy is, you know, are action members, also toy cars. And when you're playing toy cars, you just erase them around. What did you do? Yeah, that was, I wanted to go into that as well.

For the, that's what you do. moving away from games or whatever James loves cars he loves modern cars and he's just obsessed with them is that the same kind of thing the cars are James's toy basically everyone's got something yeah everyone has something that feels that same

kind of void well that that's just entertainment though I don't think it is let's define toy then let's let's see what it'll be something to do of children though define toy boy an object for a child to play with typically a model or miniature replica of something but you understand what i'm saying yeah i think because like my passion is lego right yeah i love lego that's an actual children's toy yeah by definition yeah by design

but people they they make fun of that that passion that passion and then they turn around and they buy weird... They buy fortnight packs or weird niche car parts off eBay and don't see that it's the same thing. Okay, no, I'm going to stop you right there because you looked at me when you did that.

My niche parts are not from eBay, they're from fucking Japan, okay? Through my point, even better. They're just more expensive, okay? It's the same... It comes from the same place, though, doesn't it? Yes. Well, yeah. But to be fair, buying Fortnite packs

is a lot more childish than by Lego. But having, like, a Luke Skywalker, What's what I'm saying? Comparing the childlike nature of it. But having a Luke Skywalker toy and playing with that is different to watching Star Wars. Right.

So surely there's a difference between playing a game. But there's a great line in the Lego movie where he's like, it's not a kid's toy the way I use it. See what I mean? But how... There are many A-FELs out there. That's kind of dirty, Alex.

What? That line, you can warp that. I don't know, maybe I've got a fucked up mind. You do have a fucked up mind. It's the thing about Lego, man. Get your mind out of the gutters, they say in Detroit. I see what you mean, like making a dildo at a Lego, and it's sitting on it, and blood just gushing. Not if you made it well. Get Jang on the case.

This is one of my things, one of my things of Lego is it's getting, we're getting to the point now where I should save this for a video, but... Lego's gone too far with, like... the pieces they just invent to solve problems well let's just say Lego literally built a wheel life car can we go a Bugatti that was impressive our fucking Lego like come on

that's that's impressive so Lego officially isn't a toy exactly so it's not a kid's toy so you know boom so but no but would you say it's child nature or you say it's just human nature to well we need to be entertained otherwise we want to kill ourselves Yeah No like Think about

Put it in like dog terms Sorry that it's just reminded me To put the rubbish out Put it in dog terms You get an intelligent breed Like a corgi And they say If you don't entertain this dog

It's going to just destroy things And make it same fun Because it's bored It's got nothing to entertain its mind And they'll be depressed It's the same with cats I remember wondering if Billy was depressed I do you remember that because he came up in the party

I was just like, I'm just looking into Billy's depressed Yeah But I found out she absolutely isn't Because she kills too many animals And for cats That's their equivalent of building LIGO man Yeah Just slaughtering

It is in nature to Have fun Yeah look at puppies, kittens, cats We do it different ways Bears Because we know with different levels And maturity Like old people just like drinking

Alcon watching TV all day Like that's their fun You know And like You know, they say everyone's on the spectrum a little bit In spectrum of what? Autism. The autism spectrum.

I'm definitely on it. And do crows have autism? No. Why do they collect shiny things? You just got fucking annihilated. Are you saying autistic people collect shiny things? No, I'm saying it's a similar sort of event, isn't it? Why do crows?

collection on your things. Yeah, and do crows collection only things? Yes, Jim. Have you ever watched a cartoon before? No, can I actually say, straight up, why, what's with all this hatred against crows? I don't understand. They're fucking horrible. They're terrifying. It's quite scary.

I don't mind crows. I remember... You didn't see the seagull up close. You haven't seen what a bird of that size looks up close. And there was just this brave-ass crow. I was walking through like the... Between the blocks. And this crow just wouldn't move.

And as I got closer and closer, see it's huge beak, sharp as a knife, and it's like, I ain't messing with this one crow. Imagine what, like, a group of ten could do. No, I, I think, nah, crow is white. Do you know what crows remind me of? Do you remember when we were young? That mission in Black Ops in World War I? Do you remember when we were young, our parents got the musical War of the World's CD.

Yes, and the crow is eating the red goop. In the booklet, yeah, at the end of the War of the World's story, all the aliens die of cold and the crows come and eat all the goo. Isn't it the red goo that they're like spraying over the world to make it red like Mars? I thought it was when they were dead

and they're eating them. No, they spray it because there's that scene in them. I know they spray it but I thought they ate them at the end to signify they're all dead like a crow picking at a corpse kind of thing. But that is like human corpses. I'm pretty...

Yeah, it is. dark story scary really good though with just a handful of men we'll start all over again awesome awesome musical god it's so good why are you looking me like that

you're the fucking I don't think we came into a conclusion though are video games toys yes they're just I think some are the same well yeah but so do movies I need no I don't think movies toys are entertainment

No, but kids nowadays don't go buy toys, they buy fucking... You mention the tactile physical element. You don't get that from movies. It's a one-ended experience. It's all pre-made, it's all there for you. But with a video game, you have that kind of control over it yourself. Well, what about in like a telltale game? Well, that's why everyone rags on them for being...

Walking Simulators or whatever. No, I'm in... What is the deal with toys? I'm 100% in agreement with Alex on this one. I think, Jim, if he doesn't agree, is... So do you think my internal passion for following Lego YouTubers, buying Lego off eBay, is the exact same thing in my brain that drives me to do it as what drives you to obsess over cars and customize your car in that kind of thing?

I do it with an enjoyment. I do it because I like having it. I like it that's why I do it I do it I just I'm happy When you have to When you try and explain

Why you like it You can't It's just an inherent thing You just love it I don't have anything like that You do Well it's coming out in A few hours

We all have those things You know That's what I'm saying It just bugs me I feel like I mentioned this before But it bugs me When people are condescending About people's

Yeah but it's fucking childish Alex I just find it so funny All those like Your mama's so ugly Kind of jokes out there Yeah just like that I think you won that destruction

No yeah I'm in agreement with Alex And I think That's that's right So you collect your action figures You play video games You I don't know It's a case

You do what you do. You what you like. You don't let other people stop that. I remember being in like secondary school and hiding what music I listen to. Like on my phone screen, not letting people see because I was embarrassed. Even though there's nothing to be embarrassed about. I remember in year six of primary school, reading my book flat on the table because I was embarrassed of the name of the book. Even though no one cares what it is.

Nobody gives you shit in life in general. Unless you're listening to something cringy. just that's what I was going to say James was saying like listen to what you want do what you want like if you enjoy it don't don't think about what other people think unless it's something really fucking lame no no like straight up you can fucking make lava lapas all you want but going to a medieval festival that's their fucking shit and that's in fucking credible and we'll be back after these messages oh damn son Damn son, this is part two of the JARcast

where we head over to the JAR Media Reddit. There's a mega thread at the top. If you want to leave us questions to answer the next episode, leave your own question and if it's not shit, we might answer it. Don't be rude. So, our first question comes in from Scorpion Sandwich.

Alex and Jim, when you were both in school together, did you stick up for each other or ignore each other? Plus, do a roleplay of it. Um... Define stick up for each other, what? Someone comes over and starts bullying gym. I heard, you know, something embarrassing, I remember.

Whoa. Oh no. Embarrassing for who? Me. Okay. Go for it. I remember thinking when I was going in secondary school, being like, right, I'm three years ahead of gym. I'm going to be your seven. By the time he's there, I'm going to be, what, you're 10?

God, I'm going to be so fucking cool when I'm going to be 10. I'm going to be so, like, I'm just going to be unstoppable. So if anyone tries to mess with gym, just forget. about it. And then I get to your 7 and it's like and by your 10 it's like I can barely deal on my own shit over here.

The thing is, nobody ever targeted me. It's true actually. Yeah, Jim was left alone. Jim was like just stealth through it. He just stale through. I think I'm so unnoticeable to everyone.

No, I think not even bullies gave a shit about me. I think it helped Jim because he was with me, so it's just like, I took all the attention over to Jim. It was just like, James was like my Harry Potter cloak that I wore around school. No.

Well, that's what we, well, we weren't in separate groups. Like, that's how I met you. It's just we were in the same, like, group. So at lunch, we'd just be, like, year seven. There was that place sort of by the cafe with a bunch of benches, and we'd all just gather around there. Yeah. Like, I remember when we gathered around

there, I remember this one time we just started talking about Duke Newcomb, like, forever or something or something? Probably. And it was just like, whew. And it was always that trickle in of, like, who's going to be there first, kind of like. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. I remember one time, um, this, this must have been when you went to, when you changed schools at sixth form. But, um, you'll remember, we were in a group.

Actually, you might not have been there, but, um, someone was playing, uh, Angry Birds Yeah And he No God I forgot about

Angry Birds Yes Yeah Okay Yes I'm sir He was playing Angry Birds And he was trying to do This one mission for ages

And we all just gradually Went really quiet Just watching him do it And then he finally did it And we all went like Yeah Woo And then these two cunts

Chavvy Chav Chavvy pricks Walked up to us Three of them Just like two years older than us or something just like what are you doing but it's funny

and then started making fun of the laugh of one of our friends and just started being like really cruel no but the person was actually playing the game he's fucking huge like six five he's fucking massive and they were like mocking him and he was just like what he was like taller than them because they were like

smaller than us like pop of a hard core child it was one fat kid and two like skinny ones was either skinny no no this this was after was it this was either you'd left or you were just like in the library or something probably in the library drawing dragons or something yeah

but I mean again I was just in a group of people being targeted you know it's it's different if you're someone that's singled out

and targeted but when it's a group like that I never needed you to like stand up for me I didn't think I needed you to stand up for me I think I was cooler than you at year 10 than you were oh yeah by far I never was cool I'm fucking way way wait I am glad that I wasn't the older brother because I feel like the older brother is cringe you're older yeah you know so you've got to sort of pave the way because well imagine if um you had been like bullied and you're like I can't ask Alex he's fucking lame I'm weak Not even tall and strong

He's just a bit tubby You weren't fat at that point I had a bit tubbiness It depends if we're talking I was what year 10 I was just finishing my tubby phase So I might have had some tub

I can't remember That was before everyone was taking selfies 24 7 Yeah So I didn't know There are like three pictures That exist of me

From that whole time And one of them is like A passport photo Where I looked like a serial killer Anakin Skywalker like fat Fat Anakin Skywalker Serial Killer

Anakin Skywalker already is a serial killer True true But in real life Yeah I just idolized Anakin Skywalker Mm-hmm Loved him Who didn't

Apart from Jane When you really think about it He's not an idol He's not something you want to be He's awful I guess when you're that age though You just idolize the edgiest thing Yeah

But you This was one of the occasions Where you told me My favourite wasn't allowed to be Anakin because he was your favourite. So my favourite was Obi-1, which is why I've ended up a more balanced human being than you

and not a serial killer. Yeah, fair, fair. Like, I sent you that really embarrassing picture the other day where I've got that plastic gun and I was like holding it up threateningly. They said the worst thing.

Dig the Head asks, Alex, if you had to choose one-jar members take over the IHE channel, who would it be? It's Rubin It's got to be Rubin Why? Because when Rubin's on a role

On like an angry role about something He's funny as fuck And he's got He's honestly he's probably He's got the most editing skills I mean Jim He probably hates more things than you do as well So that must help

He actually hates everything Yeah Especially playing bad in Rainbow 6 Like he could make a fucking whole series like rage quit michael of jar he is the rage quit michael of jar wow fucking shots fired what do you say i said um reuben's actually funny

i'm no part of this yeah jesus pissed off like every fan base let's just go through him sonics sucks the kingdom hearts lame no kingdom hearts kingdom hearts incredibly queer kingdom hearts is fucking lame shit though It's complete

You can have a hobby As long as it's not Kingdom Hearts It's like that's the I was thinking of a funny Kingdom Hearts tweet But I think it would have gone too far What was it

Coward It was going to be something like I just spent the last Four hours Reading through Wikipedia pages About Kingdom Hearts But Fucking story man

and then suddenly I felt a pain in my in my heart and then I went to the doctor and I got heart cancer somewhere along those lives okay yeah that is pretty far

yeah well actually you've got to piss off every fandom though all of them has to be somehow who we missed out uh fairies then he needs to go in there

um big on the internet have we done furies yeah I thought he said fairies Actually, the furies are like the only ones that they can just deal with their hate. Yeah, because they have so much of it. They've got no choice, really.

Yeah. They've got to just buckle up. Reebbs, have we upset the webs? We say Kingdom Heart sucks, so there's probably quite a lot of crossover. To Japanese developer. Farn a fancy stuff. I actually watched this video by what's she called, Lacey Green. Yes, with Adam.

Yes. With Adam, yeah. Did you see it? Did you watch it? No, I just saw the thumbnail. Um, genuinely good video. There's some insight into the the whole idea behind the furry thing. You see, I've got a big problem when it comes to watching certain videos

because I saw it on Twitter, but I don't like watching YouTube on my phone, especially because my phone screen is completely fucked. Yeah. I don't like watching YouTube on my phone, so I wanted to watch it on my computer, but I wasn't at home. So then I just forget about it and never see it. Oh, right.

so even though I and I never used Twitter on my PC yeah so it's basically pointless me following all the YouTubers that I follow lame squat and cough but Adam was saying in that video how

um he sort of figured it out that it was a thing before he even figured out he was gay really? Yeah he figured that out after yeah

um And he said, like... So, is he a furry before being gay? You're going to have to ask him that one. But it's really fucked up. He was saying how... This video, I can't remember what it's called, but it's on Lacey Green's channel.

Yeah, yeah. About furries, just so people can find it if they want. He was saying how he felt really bad about it and, like, didn't like it and tried to hide it for years or whatever. which made him like fully depressed and what the fact that he's a furry yeah well he was so like

I mean man when he gets to that level when it's like ruining your life just not doing something completely harmless I mean go for it yeah go for it man you see that

I honestly don't understand being a fairy though what part do you understand well like that's it that what i think i can figure out is there is there are not all of them like dress up in in costumes and stuff a lot of it is just about the artwork i think um but then another part of it is it's just like an an exquisite an obsession with like anthropomorphic kind of animals things you know like in robin hood um the disney robin hood yeah yeah That movie that came out The Zootopia, yeah, that's true fairy bait

Kind of stuff But I mean, I don't You see, now I'm having like a whole crisis Because you don't choose what you like You just like it It's just like a, yeah But you just, it's just an identity thing I guess But I've got nothing like that

You know? So it's really hard I think most people who are furies appreciate the fact that it is confusing. Yeah, but I mean, the way you're saying Adam was describing it as almost like a sexuality. Mm-hmm. Like, he discovered he had this thing. Well, yeah, because identity is very much entangled with sexuality a lot of the time. Yeah.

But, like, I've never found something out about myself. I think that's why it's so hard to get your head around, like, being. gay or trans or whatever when you're not it yeah we've just had we're too privileged basically white male privileged

cis yeah we're privileged because we're not furries that's exactly what I wanted everyone's take away from that anyway it's a good video I'd recommend it if furies have perplexed you in any way Zetit Zings 1, 2, 3 says I was re-watching a James blab on Old Jar

Which we did the other day Yeah, we were doing that the other day We went back to the old Jal media channel The one that's like got a big cross through the The title and everything I don't know why, just procrastinating We're probably supposed to be doing something And it was like, let's watch old Jail videos instead

Weren't we supposed to be editing the intro to this episode Yeah That's it Yeah Yes, last And we were on our old Old videos

Which we went to talk about Oh God, don't Oh Pre pre first jar even That's pretty everything The question was An old jar And James said that he was

A fan of Taylor Swift Is James still a fan of Taylor Swift Or has he cured his retardation Uh Uh No, well I haven't listened to to any T-T-Tay songs in like fucking ages.

Tell the truth, were you ever a Taylor Swift fan? I'm a fan of Shake It Out, Shake It Off, Wherein' That song? You don't even know what it's cool. Or was it actually because you just jerked off to her when you're a teenager? I've never joked to Tatea. Look to the people. I've never jerked off to Tatee. And say it again.

I've never jerked off to Tatee. The least convincing thing I've ever heard. Yeah. Is she not thick enough for you? No, no, really. You swine. She is dangerously skinny. Yeah, it's hard.

I think she's thickening up now. Because... Her agent was like, it's not cool to be anorexic anymore. Now you gotta be... Thick as fuck, boy. Yeah, just feed her ice cream. Well, yeah, she hasn't been the... She's been...

She knows what's fucked about that implants thing? You know, uh... What's she called? Kanye's wife? Yeah. Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian. That's the one.

Probably one of the arguably most famous females. Yes, I couldn't remember her name. Apparently in like pictures of her, she's been photoshopping her butts are look smaller. What? Because she's sort of embarrassed about it now. She fucking has a hooters about it. Have you seen that picture of her on the beach? It is awful.

I need to see this picture of her on the beach. There's a picture of her on the beach with like, and you can see her butt. It looks horrible. It's. it looks like a bunch of like you know um once you've cooked like a bunch of sausages in a tray and all that stuff's left over

and you're like scrape it out into the bin it looks like a bunch of that that's been squished together what irony of that Alex there's multiple oh are we on about that one yeah yeah oh my god what did you Google to find that I googled Kim Kardashian Beach

and it's like okay what the fuck let me see that Jim's see it so he has some point of reference oh my god that's that's that's no but didn't she once have a nice ass wasn't that like she'd probably be a perfectly attractive woman if she just had no surgery that's the strange thing like they weren't all like repulsive or anything beforehand no none of these people are like really gross looking pre-op mm-hmm like why do they think

like what's some some celebs that you could justify getting some kind of aesthetic surgery. Well, that's just cruel. To list them off. I think we've... I just described her ass as grease. He does look at though. I think Iggy Azalea needs more work.

It gets to that point where... She looks fucking awful. It's a careful balance with surgery. Yeah, if you have too much, it can be... It can show, but some people need or want quite a lot. Then they go past a certain point where it's really noticeable. It's like an addiction. Yeah, it's really strange.

Have you seen that Louis Thoreau on it? Yes. Totally an addiction. It's very, very strange. But I don't know why people do it. It's like, it gets, because, because, okay, it can be as simple as someone was bullied when they were eight years old. Self confidence, yes, I understand. I understand completely being that type of person.

Yeah. I've got two massive things in my fucking face, but, you know, I don't care. But the thing is with Botox, when you stick it in, if you have that small thing, you do whatever adjustment, you're going to get older. When you get older, it looks shit. Then they stick more of it. So then their old bodies are just having layers of layers of this shit on. And they look atrocious. Yeah, it's so short times.

I don't think Botox has like a long-lasting effect. Like it, it's a muscle relaxer, isn't it? So when you take Botox? Sure, it's the opposite of a muscle relaxer because it makes everything tight. I think it, like, that's why you can't frown when you have it. Because it's making everything tight so your wrinkles go away. Sure, it's the opposite. Yeah.

So relax someone would make it. No. because then you're not using the muscles that crease those places yeah yeah I don't know it's really bad I like I don't know shit if you do something you're not confident

about then yeah look into it but then these people go overboard and it you look you don't look like a human anymore you just kind of look like an alien not gonna joke but then it's sadrid isn't it I don't exactly have a tiny chin or tiny nose but you know that's just me that's my that's who I am

this is a thing right most people don't care or even notice and for a lot of people the things you hate are actually other people's favorite thing about you you find a lot of the time I think when you get bullied for that stuff you kind of have to understand

to begin to love yourself like that because if it's something that really sticks with you when your brain is developing when you are in school that's going to stick with you more than anything else so yeah it it could lead to like this what's it called body dysmorphia

yeah dysmorphia where you you see yourself as looking worse than you actually are I think that's that's a common thing for anyone who gets bullied though to be 100% honest yeah totally

I think I look like dog shit I probably do you just that's that's me and Alex are too afraid to compliment your face because we'll look gay that's but that's that's tight

to self-confidence though because if you've become confident in how you look you start to begin to love how you look because that's you you know when you love yourself you love how you look so it's and there's a lot of um a lot of people like that they tend to go on the internet a lot and they tend to kind of compare themselves in a way maybe what's this is that self-fulfilling cycle of pessimism love that quote it's that self-fulfilling cycle of um you feel bad about yourself so you go on the internet to distract yourself and then you just see pictures maybe on social media of everyone you know who are

photoshopping tactically yeah spending hours in the mirror Snapchat filters yeah fooling everyone into thinking they look a certain way when they have something they're concerned about too yeah do you know what do you know a few like

a few good months ago I was just like I was feeling shit about myself so my whole thing was just taking the worst photos possible put on on him on my Instagram and it was just like I felt better and more confident myself because it's just like I look like shit fuck it everyone can see my shitty face but then it develops from there doesn't it to um that self-deprecating humor that is like so popular on reddit and Twitter and stuff um where it's all about how like ugly you feel and miserable you are and how little confidence you have that kind of stuff which is a load of a load of the most popular

kind of memes that are spread around to revolve around that don't they? Especially on Tumblr. You know you are the way you are you know it's good to learn how to love what you have

a good movie called Mary and Max which is about that kind of thing I'm sorry my back is so sweaty random Minion XD says classic

if every job paid the same what job would you do? So we're in communist Cuba. We become communist, but we have a bit more freedom. Yeah, we don't get sent to gulags. So clearly we can choose whatever job we want to do here. Full-time gamer. Yeah, man.

I don't know. Like, my mind can't. No, because then I'd be doing some kind of like doing, because I wouldn't like doing that. Stunt driver? No, because then I'd be doing what I'd do in my hobby. Yeah, but you can't do. that outside of that job.

You can't be driving these speeds and doing dangerous stunts on your own time. You could, but you could, but you'd probably get arrested or injure yourself. Yeah, or actually die. I don't know. I'll just do something that's interesting, like, you know. This is implying we're capable of getting the job.

Like, we can just have whatever job we want. Yeah. Astronaut. I saw First Man at the cinema. It does not... It's not 1960, whatever it was. It does not make being a spaceman look very good or that's all to be honest the kind of geez you've got to be able to withstand and like imagine spinning around like hundreds of times a minute and having to like activate all this like complex technology and i i was watching a video from um this astronaut dude and he's got some mighty stories he's the one who um did space odyssey in in space oh he's everyone knows him the big ever you know him he's done like he's Canadian I think stuff here yeah um and there's two notable

things he he said how when you're going up into space and something goes wrong you have to fix the problem in one breath otherwise like you're oh yeah that sounds great and and also this this one time like his something caused water to go into his space helmet and and He was just blind in space. Like, he couldn't see anything. And he just had to fix that problem. But fuck it, I'm blind. Just falling to it.

No, but it's like you have to, like, not everyone could do it. Because you have to be like stupily intelligent to be like, how'd I fix this? That's what I mean, though. It's saying if you could do anything. No, it's saying if every job paid the same, what job would you do? You know what I'd do? Yeah, but what job would you do?

Like, something that For me, it immediately jumps to Well, if everyone's getting paid the same I want to do something really easy Well, I think that's the idea But But I can't think of anything really easy Because all jobs are inherently jobs

Yeah, all jobs Dog Walker It's not as easy as it sounds It's pretty fucking easy Yeah, it's all like that But that's a lot of pressure being a dog walker You take someone's dog, imagine if they just see a deer and they're just gone into the woods and you never see them again. Tough look.

The dog will come back. Yes, how dogs do. Not always, bro. You know how dogs be. A bear might have just swooped it up. It would become a bear in the woods somewhere. What? The bear takes it under his ring.

Yeah, I'd be an astronaut. I'd probably be, I'd just be like... A butler, I would do. If it was a job, a but a butler, that doesn't sound easy. someone awesome I'd probably work at I'd like to work at some sort of nice bar

not being a waiter but the bar being a barman my moe with the he's always holding a glass always just cleaning it with that cloth yeah you want to be doing all the martini like fucking I would like to

learn how to properly make cocktails and shit yeah that's what you're going to do I don't know there's an official title for them boister not a boister that's coffee a martini maker go on whip us up a fat question I never answered the question

okay thanks guys to just you know you have plenty of time bro go on I'd be like an RSPCA person to like rescue dogs and she did fair play because then I can make a difference yes dogs

that's a good item not walking them other things what I'm gonna do with dogs okay Edward Plum says how's slash our guy Cucumber Nick right now. How has he become a god due to his prolonged exposure to the primordial soup?

That's more likely going to be the scorpion. They're going to like join. Speaking to the mic, James, now to you. James said it's disintegrating and turning into what? String. String. Please don't. This makes me so paranoid whenever James goes near that.

that I'm the one you suggested to put scorpion in it there's two pins in I guess for those who don't know we have a jar fittingly with a cucumber in it that has gradually over probably over a year at this point just been decomposing yeah actually it might be a year watch the video it might be a year like one of the days in this month but then um we made a bet James would eat a scorpion and then what it was left with a scorpion we thought it would be funny to put in the cucumber bowl and now we have a cucumber scorpion it's gonna there's gonna be more outer to it

maybe one day we don't know we're all frightened we're scared to open it well when we did open it it just kind of was a bit watering is smart of water is the video called um jar makes a pentagram yes yeah and watch that if you want some context that's just out of nowhere yeah i don't know why we did it was after we went to like a mummers Wasn't a Halloween thing? Yes, I believe so. James, can you fit the spec on the table, please?

Fuck off, Jim. Leave him alone, says, How do you rate your music? I feel it's much less technical than films, as in its much more taste and personal preference goes into rating music rather than movies. I would agree. I find music much harder to

explain why or things I like about it definitely like even when someone as prolific and talented as Anthony Fontano goes through albums for me I'm just like I just don't feel that way I don't agree with some of the stuff I tend to not actually agree with a lot of the stuff he says about albums

that's the thing though like you can dislike an entire genre but even the best of that genre you might not like it. Yeah. Because you just have... It's just not your thing, you know?

You just... You can't explain... I can't explain why I like certain music. Like, you are being. It's like, it's fucking shit, but I love it. Yeah, there is... There is just some inherent thing to music taste, and I...

Even with me, there are some things where it's like... I try listening to an album. Don't really like it at the time, but then completely a different week. different day maybe the weather's different maybe my mood's different i try listening to it again and suddenly it just clicks and i really like it from then on i find a lot of the time with music i can sort of like like the album for example but then you look up like context and sort of the meaning of each song and the state the artist was in when they made it and that can just heighten an album i'm

I'm more into doing that now. I never used to do that. I never used to care what songs were actually about. No, I first did it with the wall. Yeah. That's particularly good one for that kind of thing. Yeah. I don't do that.

Never even looked at even a song. It's just like, I just take it away. And that's the thing, though. Like, there's not a correct way to listen to music. Well, my way is the correct way. That's the thing. There are people who obsess over every note and the composition of it. and then there are people that just

they like how it sounds and it's as simple as that. Yeah. Yeah. Mama. Singing Mama. Singing Mama. So this is, that's been another Jiam Media podcast for the books.

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