JAR Media Posdact - I DO Declare - JARCast Episode 273
Episode Date: May 10, 2022https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 05:39 Housekeeping 15:24 Jim asks 'What is the self...?' 29:29 JAR Tried Elden Ring Coop 53:43 Alex Talks About Salesmen 1:08:21 r/JARMEDIA Questions 1:08:32 Update on all JAR Animals 1:09:49 The Hedgehog Question 1:11:46 Thoughts on Mr Bean 1:13:27 James & Glasses 1:14:54 Mullet Update 1:15:37 The Best Way To Get Your Question Answered 1:19:09 Vinesauce 1:20:05 Teacher Update 1:21:47 Finnish James 1:25:00 Patron Segment
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I do declare base boosted to the whole episode.
No, I do declare that we will base boost this app your shoulder.
I do I declare Sandy's in trouble of it.
So I've kind of, uh, nah, nah, nah,
I do declare Sandy is the throat goat of this here year.
It's not funny.
That's pretty funny.
say um you do declare it to not be funny that's it you have to declare it not to be funny
James Gislett forest gunk
I do declare
I'm up to no good
I do declare
I do declare
Bear bear
I do declare
the new regime of bear
God, no, that's...
That was the worst thing you've ever done.
The regime of bear a bear a bear.
Bay up, bearer.
You've got the cadence perfect there.
Yes, all about that delay.
There's...
One of my most things I hate most...
about Jard is when you two are on the same
wavelength of comedy.
When we find a new one, you mean?
Yeah, and I can't do it.
Because I discovered this
when me and James were in Sainsbury's one night
after going to MacD's.
And I just kept saying,
I do, declare.
I just, it just really...
You've never done that.
No, do you remember?
Because I kept laughing.
And you were, like, embarrassed to be near me.
Yes.
Because I, like, whispered to you,
I'd do declare.
And then start giggling and...
shit and you were like stop it
it's not funny it's not even a good
one yeah and it's not which is often a sign
that it's actually a great one yeah you can't
my response as a way to judge how
you literally just got up and started
walking away you were so in
so emotionally captured by it
it was atrocious no because the best
ones are ones where either James is
really into it or really
against it and what do you think of
bear bear bear do you not like bear bear bear bear then
bear bear bear bear's not good
bear bear bear bear fell off a few
Not true, man.
Bear Bear Bear's only just beginning.
No, you said yourself that you've killed it off.
This is a unique one because it's kind of come back round for me.
The way Jarlings have taken it and the way they're using it is really reinvigorating.
No, they are.
They sign off with it and they introduce with it.
So many comments we get, they end with like, bear bear.
Yeah, and it's cool.
They need to go.
We need to call the Jarmeiji fan base that identify themselves of Bear Bear.
No, they're the real ones
No, they're not the real ones
They're the fake ones
Because they're not
They're attaching themselves
To something that's fresh
It sounds like something's fresh and good
Like a fresh strawberry
Yeah, but not like
Nothing beats a good bear bear
Like an old whiskey
You don't want a new whiskey
You want an old whiskey
That accent
It keeps making me think of
Kevin Spacey from House of Cards
Oh
Good, yes
Or the bird from Futuroma
I was thinking of
the Sully from
Monsters Inc.
But in a different movie.
Sully?
That actor.
John Goodman?
John Goodman, yeah.
Oh, yeah, like in B movie
he's doing that voice.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I do declare, Mr. B.
That I'm up to no good.
Oh, and get bredded, yeah.
Breaded.
No, no, no, that's a long ago.
I do declare that bredded is back.
You know it's me
By the big red X
I hate your humor
It's not humor
You know what
One day I'm going to get sick
And I'm going to move away
I'm going to move away
And you'll never know
You love role plays
You come round to it
I do love role plays
But we can't tell them that
Do you declare
That this is
the afternoon, morning, evening or night?
I do.
I do.
To which?
It's night.
It's actually night.
Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to this episode of the JAR Media podcast.
What kind of English should we do for this one?
The Queen's English.
Good afternoon.
Good morning.
Evening.
Or night.
Or canite.
Did you like that one?
That was nice one.
This is episode 273 of the Jarkas.
Would you believe it? We really made it to that number, bro.
Yeah, that number.
We're almost just a magical 300.
It will take us...
Five plus five plus five plus five plus...
It will actually take us.
It would close to take us another five years to get us of 500.
Five years?
Well, yeah.
Well, there's what, 52, 53 weeks in a year?
What did David Bowie say about five years?
That we have that many?
bear bear
we got bear
man
before we get too deep into the show
let's go to the housekeeping
let's clean up some actual
to be honest
I think we should clean what is going on
at the moment
or what has gone on so far
don't mind about our last episode
we need to clean house on the last five minutes
no no that's rich
because you know what the comments are don't you
that's why
because James has got a
what have you been doing
over there, a little giggle-puss.
James, we've got to address some things from last week, from last episode.
Shoot.
Some of the jarlings are pissed at you, man.
Okay.
Especially Jack.
It's going to start us off here.
Damn.
James has been real passive-aggressive this episode.
Straight up rude to that county's question guy.
Yeah, I read this.
Do you remember this?
Yes.
What was the question?
It was something about...
So you're just like, oh, what, do people in the UK or something relate to their county as much as people do in America?
And of which, obviously, there's no comparison because of the size difference.
But people realise that I'm not angry at the person asking the question.
It's like, you're the one asking me a question.
So my reaction is based on.
So you're saying I was the stupid one.
Yeah.
That does make it better.
Because it's like I'm taking away the person asking the question because we are in the room talking.
So it's like when you say that, I'm reacting as if you've said that to.
me without that, you know?
Just the way it is when it works when you're in person.
Yeah, I vaguely remember trying to jump in there and address it in some way, but...
The thing is, James... James does what he wants.
Stop telling him what to do.
Yeah.
Well, Jeff M has some good advice.
Great cast, but could you just not talk so much in the next one?
It's too loud and I'm trying to sleep.
We could do a little, a few minute silence.
Should we sing a lullaby?
Yeah, no, it's do an ASMR section.
Twinkle
Twinkle
Little Star
How I wonder
I do declare
Just how you are
We were talking about
A Kalash
Is that you say it
Um
Well Kalashnikov
No not not quite
Kuru left a question
Or a comment saying
A Kalash is a Czech
Pastry
Filled with fruit
Or something sweet
A
Klobosnik
Is a Czech pastry
filled with sausage or something savoury.
People in the US frequently call both
Colashes. Oh, and
someone underneath that, I've probably just pronounced it
awfully, CBT, TV says
Colashis, it is pronounced
Colacis. Sauce, I live in Texas.
But if it's, if it's
Czech, do you trust the guy from Texas?
Really?
I do declare.
Maybe he's a Czech in Texas.
How do you say it?
How would you say Kalash?
Well, I don't know, I haven't read it.
A Hindu frat replied to that saying,
Alex getting names wrong for things is my favourite Jarmedia thing.
The Mojave slip-up in that one Corncast episode was amazing.
Wait, I thought you cut out the Mojave.
No, I'm pretty sure I sent that.
Because, no, because you cut out me laughing for like 10 minutes there, didn't you?
I'm pretty sure I left some of it, huh?
Because I was off for like a good 15 minutes.
Yeah, yeah.
That's really tickled, James.
Yeah, that one got you good.
Because you must have said Mojave.
Yeah, I did.
because when you're reading through the names
I'm like not even necessarily
sometimes you are just reading like syllables
yeah yeah because
people just put like
A E I E A-E-A-I-E-A-E
yeah I know that
I've never ever experienced or witnessed
anything as funny as that
I was laughing I was I was remembering that
for like weeks after and I'd fucking shit myself
I just have a fit
because it's so fucking funny
because it took me out of nowhere because I was
on that video and because it was in the corncast
and we were playing Gmail
I was in the floating boat
just drifting around this thing for hours
and then Alex came out of nowhere with that
and it fucked me up.
I feel like that whole just time period
is a delirious like just maelstrom of fuck.
Yeah, none of us were
like working at 100% capacity.
No. Oh no.
But that is a recurring thing
but I'm just bad at reading,
especially usernames.
Always get them wrong.
Or if they're from anywhere
that's remotely different
and isn't anglicised.
I'm just going to fuck it up, you know.
All of these seem to be about you this week, James.
Like this one from Logan's Stevens.
James has a fantastic take on fashion.
He nails it on the head when he mentions that individuality it can bring.
That's sarcasm.
How do you know?
I haven't even finished it yet.
I think at its core, that's what fashion should be about.
And James is also spot on identifying that fashion and fast fashion and quick trends as underlying issues.
I thought that's common sense.
I read that comment and I took it as.
is like it's a, James is pointing out the thing everyone knows.
It's like a, it's, it's mocking me with a sarcastic approach.
That's how I read that.
Don't put yourself down, bro.
Yeah.
You're getting a compliment and you're, you're going to.
I'm not getting a compliment.
There's no reason to compliment me.
You're going through mental gymnastics so that you don't have to take a compliment.
Do you think that's the problem with like, just the ultra triple down,
especially our generation likes with like irony?
And it gets to a point where it's like what actually is the truth.
Well, especially in text form.
it's yeah yeah 100% with text form
but you can just like interpret
yeah yeah it's very easy
because I didn't read it that way at all when I read it
I was like yeah
so we're talking about fast fashion and it's a good point
I tend to take things rather literally
when reading text
see that's the that's the problem though because I take
it so when you two message me on the group chat
I will take whatever way I see it
is like the actual 100% truth
and that's when it causes issues I think you're mad at me
because you'll just meme and say something really dry
and I'm like he's being dry to me again
I'm gonna have a fit
yeah I feel like the way a text is quite dry
but I feel like it's not to try and intentionally be dry
it's to just get to the like
you're being efficiency
yes it's efficiency yeah
well me apparently I'm dry
I'm like
you're not dry you're vicious
yeah true
okay what's the difference there between dryness
and vicious dryness is just apathy
viciousness is viscosity
but mine's about like the timeliness thing
which just like let's come on let's sort this
you know let's do this it's like a robot
yeah it's like an actual fucking
automaton yeah yeah
it's like an android of
some alien
creation
that's a stupid fucking
I generally think that I'm texting
is not my preferred form of communication
what is your preferred form of communication
in person? Yeah I hate texting
I absolutely hate it
I love using things in the wrong way
I like that
I use ellipsies a lot
and it just like doesn't work
you know it's like it's like you're trailing off
but like on the irony thing
like I was so anti- emoji for a long time
then and then the
then it started yeah but then it started
with the ironic usage
and then it just becomes I'm just using them now
and what's even the difference.
Like, you're just using them.
Yeah.
It's the same thing.
It's the irony.
I love emojis.
They make every conversation better.
They're actually really important to texting.
Yes.
100%.
I think if you don't use them, you're missing something.
The way your message is missing something.
Yeah, well, I mean, don't use them 100% at the time.
No, if you're really happy about something.
There's a difference between like spamming 15 on every message.
Yeah.
Or five or, you know, that exaggerated way of,
messaging to using one when it's actually
it works in the immune
the emotion you're portraying through your message
yeah unless you're really
upset because if you're like really upset and you actually use like
crying emojis and sad faces
a sad emoticom very different to a sad
emoji
sad emoticon is genuine sadness
do you mean the keyboard emoticon because I remember
back in the day they were like asky
yeah like colon bracket
yeah I they
See, I would say they're the purest form
Because if I use the happy one
It's a genuine like, I'm happy
I would never use the smile
Yeah, it's like a genuine smile
But if I use the sad one
The default emoji smile
Is only used in fake
Yeah
You know
But this is it's not expressing
This is where it just is ridiculous though
Well
Because I think this is an old school thing though
Because we grew up in a time
The usage of emojis wasn't a thing
so having the asterix old-school motives was the way you did it
so now it's like i use them generally if like if you're having a serious
conversation of someone and they were applied with just a sad face
you something's gone fucking one there's some big beef going on down you know
there was some beautiful asky art in the um in the yahoo answers replies a lot
of the time really yeah so people would troll on yah answers like just leave
replies of like an asky image of someone like holding their temple or something
yeah nicholas cage
Yeah, or Jackie Chan
going well, whatever, you know
Yeah, yeah
Polar Bear Bear says
I hate how anti-old Jar James is
Embrace the past
Long Live Purple Triangle
Um
I am anti old jar
For like good reason though
Because obviously everything before the rebirth
Is kind of just like old
I don't relate to it
So that's gonna be against it
Because it was an era where I didn't enjoy
as was ever done through the videos it was obvious there was you know what is the self what is
identity what what is consciousness what is would you agree that people can change and people
do change well yeah that's a fact are you the you you were 10 years ago no i'm not the you
you were five years ago i think people can change
Yeah.
But it's not, a lot of people just aren't interested in self-improvement.
You have to have some drive to want to self-improve.
Because there are people that, they're like 60 years old, but they have the mental capacity of a 15-year-old.
Like, they've never, you know?
Yeah, definitely.
They've cut themselves off and they're like, yeah, I'm just going to stay at this level.
But what does that make you if you change?
An automaton.
Yeah.
Are you some sort of.
android from an alien.
I feel like
you started with a genuine question and just
took it somewhere tired. No, you were like
an automaton, so
you clearly don't want to talk about this
actually thought-provoking
deep topic and you just want to
make ignorant
attempts at humour.
Shut up, poohead.
What is the
self? What are you, James?
Take a selfie and find out.
If you're not who you were five years ago and you've changed.
Yes.
But that's a different case because it's like there's context to it, right?
I'm not the person I'm five years ago because I had a huge life event four years ago.
So I'm different now because of that.
No, but people are changed.
Everyone is changed by the events of their life.
Yes.
We're constantly built by experience.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
So what is the self?
and is there the self is just your identity and how you view yourself there's nothing there's nothing
else about yourself self is how is you that's an obvious thing what is what are you you're
you are you but if if things are subject subject to change do you like from outward um like
yes intervention intervention things happening to you what are you
you? A human being. Yeah, but is everyone that? Like, if, if James had my exact position in
life, would he just be me? No. Because he would have had the exact same experiences as me.
So this is kind of a free will thing. I don't think it's a free will thing. No, that's like
a determinist kind of thing. What I'm saying is... Every human is, we right now, we're a result
of everything we've experienced white. So the things I
enjoy my interests my issues and the problems I face in life all because of what I've
experienced so far but also what those above you experienced and above that have experienced
yes it passes it's not just lost because like what like socioeconomic conditions you're
born into whatever like yeah life experiences you've had where you lived in the world what
culture you grew up in there's so many different things if you if you take everything of
jamie and put it into me but I
grew up in the same environment, I would not be me and I would not be Jamie, I'd be someone
completely different. Why? If you have my life experience? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying
I'm, have you, your character, everything about you, but you grew up in my life.
But when you say grew up in your life, do you mean...
With the influence of my parents and the environment. So you're...
Let's say, swapped at birth. Yes. Swapped at birth.
Pretty much. We, not... I, us too now would not be the same. We'd be two completely different
so now this is like a nature versus nurture thing yeah um yeah it's a good question i guess
i'm sure there have been studies on this exactly i just think the human condition is too complex
to be able to dull it down to simple things like that there's so many levels to who what
creates the way we are and who we are that it can't be just simply down to the events you've
experienced but that is a major factor that's why parenting is so important yes both there's
more to it than that. There's so many factors on top of that. Yeah, because it's not like
everyone in the world who's had bad parents are like hopeless. It just means there's like
another struggle. No, but no two people experience the same thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah, like we had the
same living conditions. We've had very different experiences. To an extent, we, we had different
like parenting experiences just based on you being the older child and me being the younger one. Yeah.
yeah that's just dynamics
so it's like if if we
swapped
yeah
would I be just like you
and you'd be just like me
no
no because your character
that plays a part in it
yeah your character can change
your character can change but it's like
what about your genetics though
but what genetics
you've also
we are not like
clones of each other
but we have
we have the same parents
yeah
and we're different
entities
yeah
but I'm not talking about
in a realistic sense
swapping
I mean everything is identical
apart from the biology
I feel
well obviously from when you're born
you're naturally you are you
you have your own stuff
you have your own character
and that's not entirely done
the character is built
I don't think you start off with like a character trait, let's say, is that you can fly off the handle and get really angry.
People with anger problems.
Yeah.
If anger management therapy works, then that character attribute is being changed.
Nothing about a person is like set in stone.
I believe anything is set and stone.
I think something is set and stone.
Like you can't change the way my problems of texture and food
You can't magically change how I get freed out of certain foods
I think that's just a me thing
I think
It's possible that it could be
Okay well about my interest
What about my interest but I mean
Do you think it's just coincidence that you happen to be really into cars
When your dad is really into cards
That's the thing hobby's always done through influence
For your parents
Yeah
But not always
There's nothing you could do now that can change that
Because that interest I started when I was young
Like two free
But then you can have like interesting scenarios
Like with us and our dad
Huge into sport loves it
Huge part of his life
Yeah but our mum really against it
Yeah
So it was a toss up between like which one
Were we going to obtain
And we both happen to get the
But then yeah
This is where there's a thing
Because neither of you've been
Super being into sport
But we rode a lot
We were doing bicycling a lot as kids
So that is a sport
And we were doing that
And we had stupily good cardio
As a result
It's not like a sport sport
No
But it's just exercise
It's like our dad
It's like a big rugby fan
Huge rugby fan
That's football
Love cricket, loves all of it
That's tennis
Love watching it
But like I truly believe
If for example
we'd stayed in New Zealand
for the majority of our lives
up until like this point
we would both
be radically different people
yeah I do think about that a lot
like what the multiverse
version of like us that stayed New Zealand
would be like
yeah it's like
the thing is up until a point
you don't get to choose who you are
and then like
what about things that are
out of your control that do dictate certain things in your life like if you just happen to be born
at a certain time where there is like a financial crisis there is some kind of war there is something
totally out of control yeah and then that's going to have knock on a fit for generations potentially
your character all these things like you're not just you because that's who you are you know
but i think that i think there is part part that is part of it that's part of the like that is
part of the human condition, though, isn't it, is trying to find meaning and identity.
And it's why people have war, it's why people can't agree on anything and why there's so many
different belief structures, so many different religions, so many different ways to live life.
But I mean, the fact that, like, I think what a lot of people, how they view what I am,
is how I react to certain stimuli.
right how do I react if someone is confrontational
what's my go to
like people react in totally different ways
when it comes to that
but that seems to all come down to life experience
yeah well I
you know I've like recently gotten really into orangutangs
yeah it always goes back
it always goes back yeah
it got me thinking you know we always
saying well to live like a dog or whatever my famous saying live like a fucking
orangutan i'm changing it i'm moving it oh no i don't agree of this no no i know i don't
agree so much of it just seeing how they learn and how pockets of like different
orangutan communities like they have handed down like bits of advice and techniques to like
open certain fruits and stuff that only grow in like certain places in the world and
humans genuinely like basically do the same it's a simplified version
yeah you know we're just like handing down and we're learning from each other and it's like a
cooperative thing we should see it as as opposed to like a competitive thing because humans never
would have got as far as we have if it wasn't a cooperative if we weren't inherently cooperative
yeah i disagree i think people being cooperative comes from a place of greed and being selfish
you think so yes every society ever to a certain extent obviously there's going to be
historical examples that proves
against this, but
it's like two kingdoms in the medieval ages
they're joining together
in a coalition that
benefits them both.
So that is a selfish thing of, I'll gain from
this. Well, if you consider
fighting to survive,
like an inherently selfish, which I don't
necessarily do. I don't think it was fighting to
survive in that year. It was just
a case as
money. But I mean, what, what
another philosophical question
what isn't selfish
what is humans are kind of innately selfish
but how is it possible to do something
that isn't selfish to be selfless
how can you do that putting someone else's needs
above yours yeah that's that but you gain from that how
it feeds your ego you think i don't think it's an ego thing
no but it does it makes you feel good about yourself
therefore making it not selfish is that not like is that not like
the brain reward mechanism it's like yeah it feels good
to help out fellow man
and that has helped us get to the point
where we are
where we dominate the earth.
Safety in numbers.
Yeah.
It's a real thing.
But there is this idea
that nothing is selfless.
A man cannot be selfless.
I think that is selfless.
Doing something for someone else
that doesn't do anything for you.
Just help someone else.
That is selfless.
Like, but give an example of an act.
helping an old lady cross the street
yeah and the tendency
when somebody does something like that
they tell at least one person
yeah I think it depends how the person
what the person does after doing the selfless act
because if you tell anyone
it's like how many times do I walk past
like a someone or a homeless person
I give them money I don't tell people that
yeah because why
but you know you've done it
you know you've done it and your brain will say
you're a good person well done for that
you're great it's like a feedback loop but yeah surely that's a good thing to want to strive to be good in
somewhere yeah i'm not saying it's bad but i'm saying it's not selfless i think it depends how you think
about it even even giving your life away in like a war you get to die a hero you know or a martyr or
whatever yeah yeah so your i think like a selfless selfish selfish selfishness depends on the person
doing the act
and depends on what their motivations are of doing it
because if I do anything nice on
I don't ever think of it ever again
it's done I gain nothing from it
I've just helped someone out and I move on it
yeah it kind of stops being a nice thing
if it becomes like leverage like
oh but I did that I did that nice thing for you
why you're not doing it for me
yeah well I bought you that Starbucks when you're buying
your own with diamonds yeah
yeah
yeah we're learning a few things
exactly
this is all been circling around
to make James have an epiphany
about him fucking
forcing me to buy a MacD's
how the fuck did we get here
Philosophical
Philophilophilophil
Philophical
Philophical
Phyphothothosol
Okay now put it this way
Let's just say you're playing
Aldermain
You have a jar on your head
and you've got two katanas
and your whole thing is
helping people be a boss
that is selflessness
is that selflessness
what's he gaining from it
apart from a huge reputation
and there's a huge figure on that
a statue
a literal statue
yeah
but that's because we reward
it is because it's like
you're now a legend
you're actually like a legend
but even before all that shit
he got really stuck at this boss
so to to make
it like
to make him
self feel powerful he created this he gooned it he gooned it so he could kill this boss over and
over and over and over this thing that was like lording over him for so long he managed to defeat it
and then he's doing it again for ever people and like the orangutan that learned how the first orangutan
that learned how to open that fruit and pass that down he's now doing that with all the elder ring
players yeah he's he's like the old wise orangutan are there any orangutan enemies in that game
A Souls game hasn't used Arang Tenancy over there
Well you can't have them be enemies
You can't fight them
Well they have all sorts of like ape enemies
In Secura and stuff
That's different
And they're cool and creepy
No but like a gorilla is more threatening
Yeah
But then like little gibbons and stuff
They're not inherently is that threatening
Gibbons are terrifying
Well like a gigantapithecus or whatever
That's pretty fucking intimidating
It's those giant orangutans you know
okay so moving on we we did it we as a collective we as a group took the plunge into
elding co-op because obviously you played it before you've talked about it i've not finished it
but yeah we've we talked about alderming and how we wanted to play it so we i did because i think
i was always the biggest naysayer yes because i tried to
Dark Souls won, I didn't get on with it
I found it frustrating and difficult
and I was playing it with no guiding influence
at all because I played it before you
even got on Dark Souls
so I was an early adopter and I gave up on it
so when the whole idea of
Eldering I was like
no I'm not I'm not going to play it
and then I took the plunge and we've been playing
cup so what
your thoughts
yeah
my From Software thing
was yeah I played Dark Souls 1 around the same time you did um but it was on my Xbox
360 I didn't run that well I didn't know what I was doing uh just just gave up fast forward
years later played Sekaro um that was the one that got me through gym kind of pushing me to get
through because what what would always put me off before was like just certain it watching you play
dark souls one a lot in certain areas and like like the frustration I saw from you
and like the tower with the archers and that tree boss and just this stuff where I was like
I'm really struggling to see what part of this is like enjoyable um but jumping into
eldenring now yeah like I totally understand everything everyone's been saying about it
um I've had a frustrating experience specifically with co-op just because of the implementation
of it in souls games we've had a weird thing of co-op because we we we're
We're progressing through the game as a group, so we'll do one a year, get to a lost grace, or do a boss, and then we'll do it on the other person's world, so we're always, we're all progressing and we're tripling the XP.
We're all level up, great time.
But every time we join Alex's world, Alex will get invaded.
Specifically mine.
Yeah.
So all three of us are hosting independently at different times.
It's me, for whatever reason, keeps getting invaded.
And this is, we're still on basically the starter.
yeah we're like six hours six eight hours in yeah like early early early still in the opening area like type stuff and we're getting invaded by these people that like bearing in mind six hours in is us going through areas three times yeah so this is equivalent to three hours in basically uh huh with yeah in that like eight hours of gameplay we've had like probably one to two hours halted by invasion and like bugs and disconnects and random stuff like that yeah
The game isn't a co-op game
No
And playing it this way
Is a different game
Yeah entirely
You guys are getting a different experience to me
Is that, but is that a bad thing?
I wouldn't
I wouldn't want to trade my experience I've had
Yeah I would say if you finish your co-op
You haven't finished Eldon Rue
It's something else
Yeah it is something else
But the game
The game is
almost telling us that
with the invasions
it's like yeah you can play
this way
but you're going to be punished for it
yeah kind of
because the thing I've
really appreciated with Eldon Ring
more so than any other Souls game
is interacting with strangers
and I think
that's the design intent
for all co-op in all the Souls games
but they're giving
mixed messages by letting you have a password with a group so you can co-up with certain people.
Yeah. So if the intent was truly to make you interact with strangers, they wouldn't have that.
And I have no problem with that. The only thing I have a problem with is that when we're invaded,
they're people that have gear that is not scaled in any way. So when you're in fights, you're like,
we should be like not having any issues, right? It's 3V1 every time we're invaded.
but like you hit them and you like do a tiny tiny slither of damage and they've got like some crazy spell or a huge weapon that like takes two thirds of your health and one hit or more like builds a status yeah and but the worst one was like there's pressure plate lifts in the game yeah the first like castle yeah there's like a castle you go to the to get into there's a pressure plate lift and we got invaded and basically the invader figured out if he just stands at the top of the lift like by the pressure plate there was not a
nothing we could do to progress.
And you can't call the lift down while he stood on the pressure plate.
So he, and he just stayed up there knowing that's the direction we wanted to go that we were
trying to clear and just to be a dick.
I just had a thought.
I wonder if he was waiting for us to cool the elevator down, but being too stupid to
realize that he needed to step off the pressure plate.
It's possible.
But why would he have waited for so long?
Because we ran off.
We ran off for like a good hour and a half
And there was like
We should stop playing now
And it's like I can't leave
Because he still stood there
Yeah
Yeah and the likelihood is he was being petty
Yeah
But yeah that's the thing
Like
You were saying about like
Ages ago you did this stream
Of like angry tweets
From when you were playing Dark Souls 1
And kept being invaded
The thing is I still
I don't believe
I don't think invasion
are a problem in Eldon Ring.
No, no, just to clarify,
this is just the co-op way
we are playing it. I'm still going to do it.
We are opting into
this shit, right?
We're choosing to play in a way
where, like, we run the risk
of coming across assholes
that want to just pound
low-level characters.
Yeah, that was the problem also
is it wasn't running a risk.
It was literally every single time
we were playing.
It was like, yeah,
the gameplay's like flowing really nicely.
We're having fun.
There's a nice kind of amount of challenge.
or whatever, we're learning the game.
Oh, we're invaded.
Fun's over.
Yeah.
Now, yeah.
But we are opting into that, by the way we're playing.
With Dark Souls 1,
it's every time you use an item that turns you human,
the only way to stop being human is to die.
So if you use a humanity to go human,
and then you're just playing the game,
could be playing for a couple hours,
beaten bosses,
not even co-opping, right?
But you'd use this item ages ago,
maybe to co-op like three bosses ago,
but you haven't died since, you're still human.
And then you just randomly get invaded
by a guy that's like
min-maxed his character,
stayed a low level, so he can invade lower-level
characters.
That's what gets me.
And the net code was so fucking bad.
You'd be facing the guy,
and then he'd be like strafing around you.
You're looking at him.
He walks towards you, he backstabs, he kills you on one hit.
Yeah, the net curve wasn't great in an end of them ring either.
But, I mean, it's leaps and bounds ahead from what I've seen.
From what I've seen, experience.
Yeah.
Dark Souls 1, in all my experience with, like, people that understood the game, if I attacked, they could one hit me.
Mm-hmm.
Because they understood the game.
And the frames, when I couldn't do anything, they could get behind me and backstab me.
Because there was, like, such a big lag.
so I genuinely think you should be able to co-op with the remaster
because the PVP is no better
with the remaster you should be able to turn invasions off
just patch it and give an option or something
yeah because it's busted it's totally broken yeah
so here's my thing am I not a true
dark source player for playing a cup because I have no
as of now I don't have any interest in playing that game solo
absolutely I just think
about because you don't have an option to play a co-op in Sakura that was the one of the first
game right you can't someone yeah and if you didn't force me to get past that
guinitro boss or whatever over that hump and like learn the systems properly force
you to like rewire your brain because you're so used to that that different type
of like design that's just way more forgiving yeah you need to be like beaten down
I reckon.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
But also you need to read when
Eldon Ring teaches you different lessons.
Where you need to know when to stop
and go elsewhere.
Which is a different lesson to Sekiro.
Because if you play Sekiro and you get to Ganituro
and you're stuck for like three hours,
you still have to jump that hurdle.
Whereas with Elham Ring,
the lesson is
just go, just leave.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, you kind of have more options, don't you?
Yeah.
But no, I don't think...
I think your experience with the game
is a valid experience.
And that's your experience with the game.
And to be fair,
so this is basically the first time
I've invested a decent amount of time
into any Souls game.
Mm-hmm.
And the first item I took
was the...
when you're building your character
is the item that gives
every enemy's aggression is on you
I took this thing
so we're never in a fight everyone
they all just fucking they go for me
I'm just being chased and I can't do anything
and I'm just leveling up health
because by doing that
I'm being put in a horrible situation
so I'm like guys I'm gonna fucking die
and then by dying
we've got to do so much hassle
to get back in again
so I'm making my experience miserable
So at the same time
I am getting a Dark Souls experience
When I'm just being killed
And like we
At the end of a run yesterday
Um
We ended on a boss
And it killed us
Yeah
It totally wrecked us
Yeah it killed all through us
And like
You're still getting that
Horrible Dark Souls and misery
But
For some
It's clearly not
That's not like the way it's designed
though the way that you're supposed to experience it
it is something different
it's totally different
and it's
you miss out on
unique moments
because like I have this
memory where I was
it was like really late
I was in the first big
big ass castle of the game
and I was like
it was too much for me
it was daunting as fuck
because like I was a bit under leveled
the enemies were
give me loads of grief so I summoned this guy who was called Dex and he was like we were working
together to kill these enemies and he was showing me all the secrets of this castle and he was doing
the emotes and stuff and it was like we built up this little relationship and he was sort of guiding me
around the castle and then he died and then I couldn't find him again it was like a whole little
story yeah for me it's moments like that that make that sort of co-op so fucking isn't that what
like that was Miyazaki's design intention right yeah yeah that's yeah he said like a whole van
story his old plan was the fact that he was stuck on a snowy mountain some guys came out of nowhere
just helped him and walked off no nothing that's yeah yeah it's just like two people on their
separate journeys just happened to come together yeah for a bit it's the yeah it's the help you
it's one of the thing it's one of the best things about video games it's one of like when you
happen to get into that like lobby in a multiplayer game with the dudes that have
the mics and they're just, it's just clicks, just for 15 minutes, whatever, you just play
again, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You just help each other in some cooperative way or go against
each other. And there's just a mini interaction and then it's done. And you might never
ever talk to them again or you might even find a new friend. But with, with, with the way
Dark Souls does it with the restrictions on communication, like there's no mic. Yeah, like
journey or something. Yeah, it's, it makes it so much more like, it makes you feel
closer to that person because
they, you know nothing about
them. They could be from any country
they could speak any language. Yeah, you can just project
anything onto them, can't you?
Yeah, but we all understand these same like basic
versions. Yeah, yeah. See, my counter
arguing to this is that I think
us free playing is
special in itself because
Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. It's just different
funny. No, it's not that it's not fun, it's just
different. It's something else. Yeah,
but I value that as much as anything else.
And to be honest, I think,
in works because it's so
huge. It's such a huge game
you're discovering stuff you didn't
on your play for it. And we're discovering that together
and we're sharing those moments. And you might even learn that like
tens of hours in once you have a certain level of confidence that like
maybe I will just jump in to like that castle by myself and
you know? Yeah, that's the thing as well.
Because that means you'd never like be able to use the horses or anything or
all the other stuff that's
Yeah, the game is not designed to be co-opted.
100% of the time.
That's just like a fact.
Because we managed to beat one invader.
How many times do you think overall we've been invaded compared?
We're probably talking more than 10.
I'd say like 15, 20.
Yeah.
So not the best track record so far.
But the sense of accomplishment when you beat that one, that first one.
No, but we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
destroyed him. We humiliated him.
Yeah. Because he was in that area because he wants to beat noobs.
And then he got absolutely demolished. He didn't even hit us once. We just fucking just fucked him up.
But it wasn't like in a ganky way. And the whole idea of ganking, like, if you're a soul's
PVPer and you get annoyed by ganks. Can you explain what gank means?
Ganking is when the host of the world has summoned one or one.
more people. So the gang
is you're having to fight
multiple of them and they've only got to fight one
of you. Okay, yeah.
But the game is designed for you to have
every enemy in the area
doesn't attack you.
They only attack them. If you're invading, yeah.
Yeah. Two, you're
opting to engage with
this. The reason
it's designed the way it is an Eldon Ring
where you can only invade when someone
is actively looking
for co-op.
is because they want the invader to be at disadvantage
because the devs know it's fucking annoying
if you're trying to play through the game
and some asshole just invades you
the odds should be in your favour
yeah the invaders just not at disadvantage though are they
what do you think it would fix it do you think if they were agrobed by enemies that would help
what do you think that would just be too fucked it would just break it me
well there was an item I don't know if there's the same thing in aldermring
there probably is but there was an item in dark source
three that you could collect at Firelink Shrine every so often
um that when you used it it made it enemies agro to the invader
oh really yeah so they can do it so if if if they did a thing where they like ran off
waiting by like a bunch of enemies and they were like yeah come on then then you just
use that item and then suddenly they've got all these enemies attacking them but
I think what you said is the the best
thing they could possibly do. Put a timer on it. Yeah. Yeah. Because that was what was most
annoying. Yeah, because they were stopping our progress because we, before trying to get
to this castle, we'd played the day before. And we would, we got to the lost grace in this
castle and we're like, tomorrow we'll do this and we will hide. Yeah. You know,
during the day, I was like, guys, you need to out of me. I'm so hyped on this.
Then we started to start playing and it's like instantly got into this hurdle where this guy
was just like being a twat. Yeah, he had an attack that would one hit us. Yeah. But they
play in the most cowardly ways they like run then they run away as soon as like they're in any
kind of disadvantaged state and yeah because they've got these like flasks and health bars that are so
ridiculous like they're just they're so tanky like the fight's like it's so it's weighted to one
side so it's so strong it's the opposite way that the devs intended yeah so do you think it's fair
to call out for that then on those grounds yeah i think even though we know it's obviously
not the... Because it's such a big
game and there's like so many options
that they couldn't design a system
that couldn't be abused.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think it'll just be
a case of
by the time we're more familiar and a bit
of gear and stuff, it'd probably be more fun.
Yeah, it's just like a, it's like
a Stallone thing. We need to run up the stairs and do
star jumps and shit. Because if these people
are generally, they generally get absurd over
ganking, if we kill them
every time by gang king
we just pissed them off
so ultimately we went
and yeah
then you don't lose anything
but if you truly want a PVP
every Souls game
has an area
where if you put your
you can put a summon sign down
just like the co-op ones
but when somebody summons you
it's to have a fight
are there like
have the fight clubs
started popping up yet
yeah there's like a location
where everyone goes to duel
yeah and that's cool
I think that's a really
a really neat idea
It's just yeah
It's just the like power and balance thing
It's like come on you fucking loser dude
Like yeah
The gamer meme from that South Park episode
With the guy
You know
It's just like there's something different
Because like going out of your way
To like fight people
And challenge yourself
With people on an agreed thing
It's cool
Going to literally the first
fucking area in the game
Out of the little castle
Just because you know
Everyone's going to be
Yeah, because everyone's coming out there level one
And you'll literally level fucking whatever
With top gear, you are like the biggest pussy
Ever
Actually a loser
Go touch some fucking grass, honestly
But it's this
You teach me about the slow walk thing
I can't get over the slow walk thing
That is like the ultimate
Personification of the cringe of it
I saw it first hand because you two
lagged out and I was left
I was left in this world
but this guy invaded as you left
so I was basically fucked
and it's this narrow court
hallway and it's going down into a little
dungeon and I was like guys
I've been invaded and I could just see him slowly
walking up the stairs and I'm like fuck no
shit! Yeah when they
kill you and then deliberately turn
the character model the other direction then start
slow walking
this is
this has given me a flashback
to a brutal lesson
I had to learn from Dark
Souls 1
where I actually managed to beat someone in PVP
someone invaded me
and then there was an emo where you like
put your arms out and you were like
it was called like come on then or something
gladiator
you like you like take two steps forwards
and you're like
is that all you got sort of sort of thing
so I did that after I killed him
so I was like fuck you I actually got one
fuck yeah and I was so hyped
and then I started carrying on
and then he invades me again
and he's gone in like full fucking beast mode
he is he is the power
power of a thousand sons
raging behind his eyes and he
is going to kill me and he does
and then he starts messaging me
on Xbox. Really?
And he's like, that's
your lesson to never use that email again.
Yeah.
It's like actual playground shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like, but you know
what? Never used email again.
Is that he just goes around
teaching people like
because it was it was just him he must have been like invading people then in leaving worlds that weren't mine so you using that emo has such an emotional impact on him it drove him no because that's what these people are looking for they're looking to kill someone and it gives them a little ego boost so then when you like just a shit player it was my first playthrough i had like the worst build i didn't know what the fuck i was doing
and I killed him
right
yeah so not only did a shit guy kill him
but then a shit guy was like
I just don't understand it
because it's like
to me what is fun about
competitive multiplayer most of the time
is when there is like some
level of any sport
some level of fairness
that's what was so fun about the fight clubs
yeah yeah yeah I watched you
and Ducks was through a bunch of those
yeah and I remember hosting them sometimes
because it was just fun to watch two people fight
like two different builds
two people of different skill
they weren't necessarily the same level
but some people were like good enough
where their skill could carry them to a win
even though they were using like worse weapons
just watching that dynamic was so fun
and then like it was a community thing
where there were no rules in the game
but everybody knew the rules
if you healed
that broke the rules
if you healed everyone would just rush that guy and kill him
so it was like a fair self-governed
no heels if you were just etiquette you knew the
yeah yeah if you were just a really low health butter
you don't heal you just still try and win
and it's possible
that shit was so fun man
it's getting repaired uh tomorrow
okay good that's fucking that's
yeah do we mention that on the cast that um
no no I did have this noted down
I just noted down in the notes, just salesman.
Because it's happened too many times now.
Salesman.
Just the bad experiences I just have again and again were salesmen.
It started with the conservatory man.
Oh, yes.
I didn't think I ever told about the conservatory man.
I think you did.
To be honest, it was during COVID time, which was extra weird.
Yeah, super weird.
I guess someone around where I live was getting a conservatory installed.
and like when they do that
they'll often send one of the people
like round the local houses to knock
on doors and be like oh we'll give you a free quote
for a conservatory or whatever no big deal
it's a typical thing it's like if you're in the area
you're doing business you might just try and get them more business
yeah it's good so this
yeah this mate head he knocks on my door and he's like
yeah do you want a free quote
for a conservatory and I'm like
yeah okay cool
sounds good
um
the guy like books me in or whatever
like for the next week
and shows up
it was like
during peak COVID stuff
you had like no
no mask
no nothing like that
it was really weird
he came in
um
and I tried to make sure
over the phone
that was like
this this is like
no commitment
like
it's just a quote right
like
it's not a big deal
this turns into like
this three hour
fucking ordeal
where
I don't know what it is about me
Do I just look innocent and like I'm just an idiot and like easy to manipulate?
I think young homeowner.
Yeah.
Oh, that's stupid.
They'll fall for my thing.
Yeah, so they're just like, and they just won't take no for an answer.
They won't fucking do it.
They won't let you.
They try and like, they create an atmosphere with that.
It's attrition.
It's a war of attrition.
They're trying to weigh you down.
They're trying to weigh you down.
And just so, just so you say yes, so they leave.
Just they want to create an environment so awkward and uncomfortable.
that they'll trick elderly people and saying yes.
And it's happened time and time again now.
Like James was alluding to this gutter.
One of my gutters was destroyed by a scaffolding company
when they were taking down the scaffold.
They like destroyed one of the joints and just like drove off.
So now's my problem to get that repaired
because there's this like really loud stream of water
every time it rains and we're in the UK.
So it's obviously fucking constant.
But yeah, I get like,
the gutter guy
coming over
comes into the garden
and he's like
ooh
oh I don't know about these
all that joint
oh they haven't done them joints
for years
they're gonna be hard to locate
they are
how's that how
this is a new fucking house
it's a new build
which I already know
is weird
because
I'd already looked up the part
I found them online
and they're like two pound
yeah
it's just joint
it's a fucking gutter joint
but I didn't
say that I was just hearing him out or whatever
just to hear like what he was going to
say it was like
yeah so yeah that one joint
I don't know about this they don't do it anymore
it's going to be really hard to locate there's no resources
at the moment I can I can repair that one
bit but it's going to be 150
you know what I can do for you though
I'll replace the whole thing
give it a good clean make it look good as new
450
Jesus that's actual
bullshit because no I
I've said this to you but like my dad will do
it for free and it'll take about two minutes.
Yeah. Anyone with a ladder can do
that job. It's like...
Oh. And then I get another quote from
someone over the phone who hasn't even come to see it and he's like
what's wrong with it then?
I was like, oh, one of them little joints has been knocked down.
He's like, oh, that's nothing.
Um, I'll come do that and I'll clean all your gutters,
what, 60 quid?
Just over the phone. Yeah, that's the difference
between like an honest workman and someone
who's just trying to take the piss.
It's a useful bit of advice for anyone who's going to own a house or anything like that.
It's like...
Well, just anything when buying a car, when buying...
Anything.
Just do background research on it and kind of find out the process.
Because obviously, I work for cars.
I know that.
And it's like, you can take a car to damage and they'll be like,
you need to replace this as well.
And it's like, no, you don't.
Just if you know what needs to be done or you have a trusted person,
you know who's knowledgeable and you can be like,
what needs to be changed on this?
They'll give you an honest answer.
and then you will save hundreds a year, minimum.
Like, if you didn't know anything or didn't do your battle track,
would you have fallen for that guy asking you for $400?
Well, that's the thing.
That's maybe.
Yeah.
Just never rush into anything like that.
But that's what is always what's so suspicious about it
because they try and lock you in and get you to like,
they'll say that, yeah, I don't know how long I can keep this quote for,
like, but tomorrow things will be different.
And yeah, of course that's true in like some circumstances,
but it's also a business tactic.
because they all fucking do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a limited time deal.
It's like the thing, it's like,
you always ask your dad.
Because usually if it's anything manual label it,
if you kind of ask your dad and be like,
what's this, they can just give you an answer.
But with the guttering one specifically,
I was like,
it's guttering, you know?
Like the complex mechanics of a car or whatever,
like, yeah, that's over my head.
But guttering?
It's plastic that funnels water.
It's bolted onto a house.
That's it.
There's no mechanical.
there's no engine it.
It's like one,
like it was one screw
that was knocked out.
That was it.
And it's just the fact
there's three stories up,
I can't do it myself.
Like, mm-hmm.
It pays.
It pays to just be a little bit cautious.
But that's the thing though.
So for a stretch,
you can't,
it means you have to be
so wary all the time
when you're like buying shit,
when you're dealing with shit.
You always have to like,
second guess everything.
Be like,
is this actually a deal?
You're just trying to fly.
police me right now trying to trick me like using the fact that you're not an expert in
everything that like you you don't have the time to learn about all the different types of
guttering all the different types of conservatory oh what's the different type of glass this
type of glass blocks heat really well but it costs this much extra of it but only if you
buy it in this many meters you know it's like fuck bro what at what point am I supposed to
it's like jargon they try to overload you with shit you don't understand but like you
say when it comes to guttering.
Yeah.
It's a tube.
It's just happening time and time again.
I'm getting sick of it, man.
Well, I mean, don't let him in.
But, like, I gotta get my gutter repaired, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I mean, like, I can't see you letting in,
like, door-to-door salesman for quotes on shit anymore.
Yeah, fuck that.
I'm just never doing that again.
Fuck that.
Awful fucking experience.
And also that guy.
And he was really,
fucking rude. He probably did more damage to himself than he did good.
Like he did he did some really cringy business businessman shit like at one point he
showed me his WhatsApp group chat. So this is the conservative. The conservatory guy. Yeah
not the gutter guy. Um yeah he showed me his WhatsApp group chat where they were
talking about like their monthly turnover and it was like what why why is that like that's
dodgy is that's obvious that's a wet flag. Yeah like why how how?
What about that would convince me that buying consensual...
You're literally overcharging all of your customers
and you're making a load of money?
Oh, I must go.
It's like the Dark Souls Invader, because you said no to him.
He...
Ego's hurt.
So now he's got to show you how much money.
Yeah, is that part of it where, like,
certain salesmen will see it as a challenge?
Yeah.
Yeah, anyone I can whittle down and get them to accept my offer.
Yeah.
It's just the obligation of it.
It's like, I see what you're fucking doing,
and it's so fucking obvious.
not as smart as you think you are and it's
exhausting. Next time have a
blanket all over the floor with mouse traps
underneath.
So then when they walk in they get loads of mouse traps.
Or just, yeah,
don't say you want a free quote from a random
Yeah, lesson learned.
Yeah.
Just don't talk to people.
It's my mind.
If you never talk to anyone,
you never have a problem.
No, it's extremely fucked up. It's like paint
like car paint.
Stupily expensive. Go to any
normal, I've worked in them.
They will fleece you for every ounce you've got.
Yeah.
But then I go to my paint guy and he's like,
uh, well, that's the like mechanic
meme, isn't it?
They're like, they'll just say, oh yeah, that part,
whatever, oh, I don't know about that one.
This is going to be a big job actually.
If we change that bit, we're actually going to have to do this
bit and this, and you don't know, and this is someone
like you.
Yeah, I've, I've had like discussions that's
arguments of people because they believe
it's just like, well, this expert
knows, so I'm happily going to do
with them.
for this price because they're certified
and it's like you were paying them 5K
to fix your motomoto
and there was a discussion on Facebook obviously
and this guy was like no my accident repair
center says it will be done for 5,000
for my motomoto and it's perfectly
certified and then
I've replaced that very motomoto
I did the job they were phones and I was like
mate it's like 200 quid
it's like 4,000 pounds
yeah that's interesting from the inside
what were the kind of the economics in terms of
like marking up.
Oh, it's insane.
Like, were the actual resource labor and part cost
compared to what they're charging.
Oh, it's insane.
So, for example, because the company I worked for
that we did a lot of insurance shops.
So obviously, when you were crashing your car out,
it's going to these dedicated places to get it done
because it's all insurance approved.
For every hour, the car was just being worked on.
They were charging the insurance company $27.
If the car's in a car park for two hours,
They're charging the insurance company for those two hours where the car's not even being worked on.
So people wonder why insurance quotes are so high now.
Because these people who claim insurance are getting mugged by these companies.
Because it's a case of, oh, you've got a dent, a whole new panel.
And they could just pull it out and paint it.
And then it's new brackets.
It's new everything.
So if you think a bumper on a car, right?
Bumper, then you've got all the lights, then all the brackets are lights, all the bolts.
everything that goes into that bump
replace all of it
and then people wonder why
we've got like huge climate change issues
and pollution
and it's like oh this this slight bracket
slightly bent bin it
I see it in my own job
it's like
it's why I can be quite doomer because
obviously people want to be eco-friendly
but when we're filling
multiple dust bins a day
full of recyclable stuff
that's being put in the bin
Just one company.
One company in Wiltshire.
What do you think it is on a global scale?
I could make a business selling bubblewap
because that's how much if it goes in the bin.
Because in my work, I've got a big work bench,
wooden, fat big bench.
Every drawer is filled to the fucking boom of bubble wrap
because it's going in the bin.
Perfectly usable.
They don't give a fuck.
Nobody cares.
Bottom line, man.
and just do background research and everything
and you can save yourself money
but that's the thing
the inherently kind of predatory nature of it
where it's like every business
every service any place you go to
to have work done will try and fleece you
yeah because they know
chances are you're not going to be an expert
in whatever the thing is
so
they have all the power
they do
and it's like when I I go
something a lot of people do
is you get tyres changed right
you go to a place to get tires
as well
because I've checked your tyres
because they were saying
oh I need to get your tires a place
I was like no you don't you're fine
and I've gone to a place
a place local and it's like a quick fit way
so instantly loads of people like
don't go there as quick fit
it's expensive yeah
but I go in there
and they're like the most
because they actually like cars
so I walk in there and they're just like
oh yeah we'll jack it up
and they were like
they asked me about some adjustment
they were going to make
and they're like oh it looks like this
but that looks like that's intentional
so we're going to check it with you
and then I got really good doing it
and it was like 30 good for an alignment
and a tire change
really good
They, it's just because I knew.
I knew what I had the knowledge.
Yeah, you knew what you wanted and they couldn't fuck you over.
Instantly, just, and it's not like it's difficult to find out about this stuff.
Google, honestly, it's like when Jim or any of you ask you about cars,
the first thing I do is a Google search.
Oh, James, my car's making this funny gear in second gear.
Oh, yeah, it's probably your clutch.
And what happened, Jim got a clutch replaced because it was this clutch.
Google Search is your best friend.
Yeah, well, that's,
Basically, they'll save me with this gutter bullshit.
It's like these, like, there are websites now that will, you just put in your details
and then they'll just send off to a bunch of different, like, companies and then give you
different quotes.
Yeah.
Because that's all you can really do.
You generally don't have to do anything anymore online.
There's so many places to get all the information you need easy.
And you can get answers to every question you have off Google.
It's just a, yeah, it's just a time thing.
It's like, man, there's not enough time.
Every time I've sat there, like, comparing quotes online.
I'm just like...
No, doing quotes is the most infuriating thing ever.
So every year, we all have to do, like, home insurance, pay insurance, human insurance.
It's like...
I can't be fucking hard.
Yeah.
Because going through it and then loading and then it's like, oh, if you slightly change this,
you might be able to get a better doing it.
Yeah, that really gets under my skin, just how much wasted time.
So much wasted time.
I hate it.
And it's like, it's like why for car stuff of me, it's like...
I can't do use those anymore because I just can't get insuranceally normal people.
It's like, I know two companies and I call them, I'm like, I need insurance.
And they just, I just sort it, don't even care.
Can't get quotes, just pay.
Easy.
More expensive, but it saves a lot of time.
It's an exhausting world, man.
Yeah, you come in.
Everyone, when that phase of capitalism were, every second, they're trying to take your money.
and they're trying to fleece you
and you've just got to not do anything.
We've got to be more like our own things
and actually help each other.
Yeah, straight up.
Be a good person.
Yeah.
This is the part of the show.
We answer questions
from the JAR Media subreddit,
which is growing nicely
for non-FNAF related reasons.
Sven, as our first comment.
Can you give an update
on all the JAR animals?
Argy's currently licking feet
yeah um
Gaius is alive
Pais that he's alive
Billy is replacing
Argy
yeah
um so yeah
Argy that is he had his surgery
or whatever
um he had his x-ray
he had his vaccine
he's kind of just been in the vet
constantly for the first few months of this year
he's made you reach breaking point
um actual breaking point
pretty much
um
there might be a new jar animal joining the
crew. Yeah. I had a scary
moment the other night. What happened?
Um, I stepped
outside in about
half past 11, 12-ish
so pretty late.
And I could hear
something going
Oh, another ghost.
And I was like, what the fuck?
This shit's scary.
Anyway, it turns out hedgehogs.
Oh.
Like snores.
really loudly
They're really cute
This is actually
They're incredibly cute
I never saw it
Because I thought
That shit
Like could be a badger
But this is actually crazy
You brought this up
Because Sven left a comment
Saying hello job boys
I just learned that there are
Hedgehogs in the UK
How have you not mentioned this before
How common are they
Do they come into people's homes
Like rats, how sharp are their spikes
Do you have any hedgehog stories
Someone from a hedgehogless hemisphere
I didn't know
There was anywhere that didn't have hedgehogs
Yeah
they are they are common
they are common in the UK
they're not as common as I would like
I've seen them quite a few times
there's a lot
you mostly see them splattered on the room
unfortunately yeah
but when you're if you're walking around
like at night
yeah no they are nocturnal
so no the opposite of nocturnal
they sleep during the day and they are
yeah nocturnal
yeah and so if you go out in your car at night
you've got to watch the roads because they are
they are just wondering about they're cute as fuck
and they are slow.
Yeah, the way they walk is hilarious.
They're like, they are dbys.
They are dbys, but they're unbelievably cute.
And I like them.
So, even on your state, I'll see them.
On my state, I see them.
You just got to be, if you're going out of night, be careful.
Just look.
Not hard.
They're cute.
But I love hedgehogs, and I want to protect them.
Because they're innocent and nice.
Yeah, I'd often see them walking back from Alex's.
Yeah, they're loads in this area.
Because obviously, we're near the countries.
I remember someone.
bringing in some baby ones to primary school.
Really?
Everyone had a little look at them.
Yeah.
That's cool.
They, um...
What was the noise it made?
Like, piggy...
Yeah, it's like...
Yeah, like exhaling really loud.
Mm.
If I did that right now properly,
just fucking...
Shit would go everywhere.
Yeah, we see them.
They're nice.
We like hedgehogs.
Yeah.
And no, they don't...
They don't go into people's houses.
No.
Yeah, that's really not a problem.
They tend to avoid light.
Like, if you see something scuttling and you shine a light,
they're going to go in the opposite direction to that light.
Oscar Man 97 has one for us.
Hello, boys.
I write this question with tears in my eyes, tears of disbelief.
Alex, how could you give the 2007 masterpiece Mr. Bean's Holiday
a one-star review on Letterboxed?
Surely the captivating and emotional performance from Willem Defoe alone
was more than enough to warrant a six out of five.
I'm disappointed and need answers.
Willem Defoez in that movie?
Yeah, that's what caught my eye
Most too, because I don't remember much about it
Except wasn't, isn't the guy from
Ghostbusters 2 in it or something?
The guy from Ghostbusters T?
For some reason, I've seen the Mr. Bean movies
Like a bunch of times.
There's multiple?
There's two, I think.
Right.
And I just don't, I don't have full memories of them.
Yeah, Mr. Bean's holiday.
isn't a good man
I have fun memories
of the TV show
those VHS
tape him going to
the swimming pool
he gets a chicken
on his head
that shit's so scary
that is pretty scary
the swimming pool
episode
that's funny one
just you know
the Robin Reliant
falling over
and stuff
you know
in the green mini
yeah
to your best
Mr Bean impression
oh
oh
James what's your
Mr Bean impression
I can't do one
I generally
do a Mr Bean impression
honestly I probably haven't seen it since around that time though
yeah so hearing Willem Defoe is in it is tempting to revisit
but I've got to be honest I've got too many Jared Lotto movies like chapter 27 to
to check out you know stick them up says I really want to see James with a pair of glasses on
for old time's sake honestly don't believe we've seen post beard James with glasses on at all
Yeah, so the whole glasses thing was the
I don't actually need glasses
My eyesight is perfectly fine
What?
The only problem
The problem in my eyes is one of them is
ruined because the cat incident
When I was a kid
So my depth of perception is pretty much
Close to non-existent
So it's like I've got to have max
magnification on just the left eye
And
I gave up
I just I thought they looked
I just gave up I didn't care enough
so I did the golden of glasses
my eyes still
as terrible
I just getting worse as you get older
yeah probably
what's the last time you got an eye test
you got to stop man
Jesus
he's like sloppier
yeah
are you please
it's quite fucking like
obsessive
in a way.
No, it is.
It's really obsessive.
Do you think he'd do that if you just put your hand in there?
No.
Or is it specifically like a salty feet thing?
I think he's messed up.
Can we put him out of the room?
Yeah, no, please Alex.
I can't stop this.
Jara 500 says,
Hello, JAR boys.
Is the mullet thing still on?
We need to see the mullets.
No.
I said both types of mullet, mullet there.
Bear bear.
I'm gonna say
No, I'm not gonna do that
I've seen too many
Mullets in the wild
since this came up on the cast
and thought every single time
that doesn't, that wouldn't work on me
and I think that's kind of where I stand
I'm not, I'm not going mullet
Okay, well
But if we go to America
I will don't the mullet
I'm not doing it
Why? I saw a picture of what they look like
I'm not doing it
Ooh.
I'll stick them up, actually, left one that might be useful.
Okay, bear, bear with me here.
As far as I know, the cast are usually recorded between Fridays and Sundays,
and the suggestion thread is left up until the next cast is published.
Does this mean that people posting questions in the last couple of days
have zero chance of getting their questions read out?
Maybe I should send this to the jimbus,
or I could be thinking too far into it.
so um the truth is there's there's there's not actually like a dedicated day
that's consistent um sometimes we'll even record on sunday so it's more of a case of
you'll have a better chance if it's earlier in the week probably just so it's in there
um but also you can if you do just leave it on a sunday you can put it again in the
next thread if it's a weekly throne you know some people do that just
answer the same thing
every week until it gets answered
then it will get answered. Some people
do employ that strategy and sometimes
it does work. If the question is good enough.
So I'd
say
four weeks.
Ask the same question. To tell the jarlings the truth
on the jar dock I literally have
I think about 150 pages
of unused questions.
Wow.
Yeah we're saying them for this extra jumbo
special long question of
It would probably take like 10 hours to go through all of them.
I hate the word jumbo.
I like you do.
You don't like jumbo jet.
No, like jumbo sausage roll.
Don't like it.
Jumbo sausage roll, extra don't like it.
Battered jumbo sausage from a chippy, extra don't like that.
I don't mind that.
But I hate it.
Jumbo sausage just makes you feel inadequate.
I'm rocking a jimba sausage
Jimbe Zossi
Yeah Jumbo
The way you feel about Jumbo
is the way I feel about
Fizzy drink
It's not bad because Jumbo's a decent shop
Jumbo
Excuse me
I don't know
It's just something about it Jumbo
Did you get called Jimbo
as a kid.
I get called
Jimbo now.
I got called
Jimbo as a kid
and I still get
a cool Jimbo now.
But Jimbo and Jumbo
like...
No, it's just totally
sound.
Jumbo's quite
close to Gumbo
and Gumbo's
kind of gross to me.
Gumbo, like
slop?
Yeah, like fish slop.
Fish slop?
There's meant to be
some fine-ass
gumbo out of it.
Yeah, you can have some
yeah.
I've never had gumbo.
I'm not going to judge
gumbo.
The concept of
Gumbo doesn't sit well on my mind.
But maybe I'm just being unfair to gumbo.
You are?
I think you're being unfair to gumbo.
Shall I Google it?
Yes.
Should I at least give it a Google image?
Yeah, the finest gumbo in the south.
I'd do declare.
Gumbo.
Actually, yeah, some of them aren't pretty good.
See?
A stew popular in the US state of Louisiana.
Yeah.
gumbo
I bet you can have bad gumbo
though like
Oh yeah
You can have good and bad
Everything
Oh
Why'd you have to do that
Yeah why'd you have to do that
Ah
When's you have to do that
Ah
Um
Breen Siener
Had a quick one
Just wondering why James thought
Vinnie VineSource
Is this
Is part of VSource
When they're two
Completely separate entities
And this should have been
A housekeeping
But I'd notice this
When you're saying
because I know who VineSauce is
but I was confused because I was like
I was double questioning
I was questioning myself because the V-Sorce link
I was like wait what
They're not connected
Yeah
They're not
That's the joke is that they're not
But Breen's seen as confused
You know
Well I'm confused
And I'm confused to be honest
So I thought Vinnie was the hot one
Where I was thinking
Vine sauce
Vine sauce
What is Vine sauce?
It was a joke
it was I was purposely
there's no connection between the two
I was just being
being classic Vinnie
yeah
Elvinnie that as they say
right
two more
uh JH says
update on teaching my class of jarlings
remember this one
they were saying about how they were sneaking
stuff into the
to their room
I've got them saying
bah
if they get something right in lessons
I did an activity in which I taught the
dibby to children and got them to draw their favorite dibby this is fake lots of
minions and two pogs fake i also showed them shark tale last friday because it was a recommendation
for sardonicust i'm afraid i'm at a standstill and what else to indoctrinate my jammy with any
suggestions fake boys he's lying is that your leading theory now then yep they're just lying
it always was a little bit lying for attention do you think what do you what's your take james do you
think it's fake you think it's fake yeah well uh j h it's kind of on you then
you know
unlock
yeah I mean
it's just been pushed too far
like drawing your favorite
dibby
I get that
because that's like
kids love dibby's
yeah they do but
yeah and true
and like
our mom is a teacher
um
and like
when I've
I've been to like
one of the schools she's taught her
and seen like
minion shit like plastered all over
Yeah, well in secondary school, I had a teacher that fucking put minions.
In secondary school?
Yeah.
He loved minions.
My man loved minions.
He did.
He had a count the minion thing.
Like, if you could find every minion, you were the guy.
Oh, you're right.
I forgot about that.
That was Mr. E.
All right.
Let's do the final.
From Romulus.
Hey, boys, the one and only finished jarring here with a little jar-related story.
story regarding a friend of mine. A couple years ago, I was starting up a secondary school
in a new city with a new set of friends. At this time, it was also when I first got into Jawa.
So as I was doing my best to socialize and find new friends, I stumble upon this one guy that
seems oddly familiar. I'd never met him before and at first I had no idea why he seemed so
familiar, but then it hit me. I'm not kidding when I say, he is the Finnish James. He loves
cars, has the same color and type of hair, talks in the same manner, and most important,
does the James Ba.
When I realized this connection, I was convinced
I had stumbled upon a wild fellow Jarmillian.
I don't think I've seen that one, but Jarmillion.
I was still not 100% sure,
so I tried to figure out the best and least weird way
to find out if he actually was one.
So I casually started talking about podcasts
and whether he listens to any particular ones.
To my disappointment, he said he'd never
listened to a single episode of any podcast
in his whole life.
So either this is just a weird coincidence
or he's just a closeted Jars sexual.
I guess we'll never know.
Anyway, sorry for the long comment.
Just thought I should share this game on.
Liar.
Fucking liar!
Yeah, this is the name.
Is this the new comment matter?
You're fucking liar.
How dare you?
Do you prefer game on or Bebe?
Bebe.
Game on, you can't replace game on.
Bear bear does not stand a charge.
But Game On's old jar.
Ooh.
Bear bear.
Bear bear's a little what.
No, a little wet.
Game on.
No, it's a bear.
Game on.
Game on.
It's double bear.
And it's been iterated on quite well.
Like, Jim was eating some gummy bears earlier.
You put two in his hand, and he just held,
you just held two of them in front of me.
It took me a while to get it.
You didn't get it, I had to tell you.
I went, bear bear.
A bear, a bear, a bear, a bear, I do declare.
Who's sitting over there?
Who is that sitting over there?
Well, I think it's a bear bear.
Well, I do declare that there is a bear.
bear is that two
is that two bears
sitting over there
I do declare
that is two bears sitting
over there
it's like
bear bear
oh
I think that's probably a good
oh
ho ho
I think that's quite good
that's probably a good place to end it
to be honest
I do do do close
Bear, bear who's sitting over there
I currently think that maybe
Argy should be not in this episode
He's not
Look at him
Being really fucking cute
Really fucking ugly
Who wants to lead
I think
I'll go first
You want to be blue
Yeah
I do to Claire, you're going to be blue
I am feeling
Kind of blue
Don't you like it?
No, I hate it
What's wrong with it?
Oh, look, funny little gimmick
What do you mean?
Can I just start whenever?
Yep
Well, make sure you introduce it
or whatever unless James wants to do it
Or I want to do it
Good afternoon, morning, evening or night
Ladies and gentlemen
Welcome to the second half of the show
Where we head over to Patreon
And give a nice little shout out
To our lovely patrons
Who helps support the show
and make the audio version possible.
So a big thank you too.
Thank you.
Thank you so, so much to
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And delightfully, I do declare.
I do declare the jarlings have been off to very much good.
I hate this episode of Wittekis.
I'm going to walk out.
So is that the name of it?
I do declare.
No.
No.
You have to make sure we say it at least 55 times then in the episode.
Just grind it into the ground in the first five minutes.
Big thanks to kooky, cheeky little Lloyd.
Fuck.
Cheeky little lawyer
That's, yeah
Fuck, how did they even know that?
Stone Weevil
Morbius Bo Jared Leto is now James
Hiding out in Dream Lounge
And exclusively uses his vampire powers
To rob rare car parts
That is what would happen
If you had the Morbius powers
Yeah
Absolutely yeah
I don't know what the Morbius powers are they
It's just a vampire
You can sort of fly around being an asshole
Being a bat
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gives him a silver platter
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I am a god of the golden god and my rage will fall upon you. Whoever is reading this has to
blow a kiss.
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I was in line at Taco Bell
when you read that name
and now everyone thinks I want to lap up
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Let's be real
Fortnite is the McDonald's of games
And I fucking love a Big Mac brother
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Before I hand this iPad off to you,
you should know that I,
let piss a dick use it, and now it's full of piss.
Or
Ohio, go bucks.
Numa, Numa, banana,
Ben, fart bag,
Gez,
fiddle, ah...
Dream awful 2-142.
Melvin, Melvin, brother of the
Joker, Misa Misa Wanawanga
King Con Fan 3
Snort Boogie
Bacca mitai
I can't actually sing the song
Baca mitai
Kodomo nan
no ni
Yuma Ooto
Kizu Tsu Tsi
Yusogahata
Na Kusei Nivaanai
I can't sing it
James' dad
Lilf
Danny G bass lord
Woodpecker from Mars
Edgy Air Wrecker
Ski Badidi
Ski Gabuduga
James's dad
Lewis Big Boy Boor
Horsborough
Evil Goblin
Femboy in a BB shirt
listing to I'm only SpongeBob
James's dad
Sam
Adam Johnston
Tom Buiz
James loves family guy
Meet Me in the Jelly Pod
Super Crunchers
Joel Steward
Edgey hacker
James is dead
it's like a threat
James's dad
Big Roops
Gremelow
Josh B.G
Cuta Panda
Lucy Ties
an Asian anal queen
Randy Williams
patron
Hold up
Pause the cast
Pause the name
Reading
You better stop
Look at me
With them
DSLR
DSLs
Or I'm gonna act it up
All right con
Catch your fucking
Managan
And David Wallace
Thanks everyone
Thanks everyone
