JAR Media Posdact - Is Jesus Is King as LAME as they say?

Episode Date: October 30, 2019

JAR talk through their top level thoughts on Kanye's latest album, 'Jesus is King'. https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies

Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Alex. I'm joined by Jamie and James. Morning. And we are going to talk about if Kanye West's new album, Jesus is King, is as, what, bad, as they say? It's either really bad or genius. But what are we going to title it is it as good? mixed or what?

Lame? Lame. I've got one word to sum up this album. Jesus Christ. It's shit, that's brilliant. That's brilliant. That wasn't one word, but that was genius. So before we go into, the way we're going to do this is we're going to go through song by song,

go into our thoughts a little bit, and just discuss it from there. but before we move into it, I'll just read a sort of introduction from from Wikipedia so we can catch up on some of the facts behind this album. Do you think Kanye vote this himself? Well, that's actually answered in this, but let me read. Jesus is King is the ninth studio album by American rapper Kanye West.

It was released on October 25th, 2019 through good music and deaf jam recordings. The album follows a Christian theme with West describing it, as an expression of the gospel. West had formed his Sunday service group in January 2019, performing gospel songs and covers of songs from his discography. Sunday service performed the songs Water and Everything We Need live prior to release.

The album features guest appearances from clips, Kenny G, so on and so forth. The album features production from West to Benny Blanco and a bunch of other people. West quit using medication to treat his bipolar disorder and began recording in August 2018, originally announcing the album as Yundi. The album missed two initial release dates in September and November 2018

under its original title before being delayed indefinitely. In August 2019, West's wife, Kim Kardashian, re-announced the album as Jesus' King, but it missed two planned release dates for late September 2019. The album was released simultaneously with a concert film of the same name. So that's a little bit of history.

I didn't realize there was so much going on behind the scenes Did that say he quit his medication? Yeah Can we save that little nugget for later? Because I have like a theory that's largely based on that key piece of information And one last thing before we move on It is currently sitting, as of me recording this,

on Metacritic with a 57 overall from critics and a 5.6 user score so pretty much identical with the user reviews 129 of them being positive and 118 of them being negative

so it's a proper lightsaber battle with the green versus the red clashing so top level thoughts do we like the album we sort of heard from James already but you might as well

begin. I don't. This, I will say that previous Carnier-Rest albums have, they've taken their time to grow on me. Like, Life of Pablo, that took a while for me to fully, like, you know, get onto that. And this album, I really don't see that happening. I don't think it's going to go on me at all. Okay. If anything, I think I'm going to get more annoyed at this album. Like, I don't want to hear it. Okay. Jim. I find it, I find the album quite annoying, like, but I don't, I don't hate it. Yeah.

I'm just sort of let down. For me, it's, yes, the word is irritating because I love the production. Yeah. Can't stand the lyrics. Yeah. That's like the worst thing. The album has very little to say, in my opinion, beyond the most obvious surface level, sort of commentary. this is definitely the my least favorite or bottom three Kanye albums you know I would agree

of that definitely like every album the last 10 years by Kanye has pretty much been better yeah um let's just start by going into the songs now yeah one by one we're going to just go through and it's only a short album it's only about 27 minutes long so it just It's going to be longer. And it makes me think, with the amount of times this has been delayed and rebranded, I think, I honestly think, listening to it, it's been shit out. It's literally been pushed through the door. Just to get something out, because he hasn't had anything out for a while.

I just think that's what's happened. Yeah, it's not an uncommon theory. But, like, you just had to get something out. So is he just going to patch it like you did Life of Pablo? I don't know. I'm pretty sure he is going to go in and change. things. Really?

I'm pretty sure he's said that he's getting to on Twitter. And I would say, if he's really said that, do you think that if we listened to Life of Pablo the first time, we'd probably think this feels the same way? I just think this has started off lower than the original Life of Public. Yeah, no, we'd agree with you on that. So the first song, a nice little short one called Every Hour. It's only a minute and 52 seconds long.

It's got the Sunday service choir, sort of chanting this grand operatic kind of intro. And, I mean, I thought it was quite a good opener. It leaves an impression to me. Yeah. Like, this would be a great opener to an album that was consistent and interesting throughout. It sets up the album on high standards, I think. It sets up really well. Like my one thing I've noted down about this is good

It's a good intro Yeah, exactly I listen to this one again Generally do like it and it's not really It doesn't really represent anything that interesting to me In terms of what they're actually saying It's just kind of setting the tone Because it's all

That's one of my biggest issues with the album Is how just repetitive, thematically it is And lyrically Yeah, yeah, yeah Like it's just saying the same shit over and over again Which gets really tiring it's okay in this first song though because it is this whole choir and choir sound awesome the thing is with this song like uh lyrically like the rest of the album like you just said

there isn't really anything going on there's nothing really to break down no like you look at ultralight beam well yeah i only does it set the album up thematically in terms of how it sounds but also what it's about and yeah i actually noted specifically specifically down that it is worse ultralight beam from life of Pablo, which is another strange thing to me because it's not like religion is a new theme for Kanye. In all of his albums, he at least mentions it a few times, but it's never usually the main focus. Normally his albums seem to be more focused on exploring some kind of idea about himself.

For example, Ye is him exploring his new output. look based on his daughter being born or of course like beautiful dark twisted fantasy it's him sort of analyzing himself and declaring himself as like a rock star um there's a lot to be said and even in his way older albums he explores like all the kind of typical stuff that up and coming rappers do about you know money and fame and sex and everything like that and there's it's maintained a certain level of interest to me because it has a sort of personal touch to it you learn something about him each time and i feel like what i learned about him with this album are there's nothing even really to do with what he's saying in the album like you you you gain an impression of the way

he's feeling at the moment just from just the vibe of this whole thing like it doesn't even matter what he's saying you just have this this impression and you don't want to hear anything more from him because it is so one-note and so predictable. Based on his idea of the album being that it is sort of a love letter to Christ, as it were. It's a gospel album, I mean, like, I don't think there's a whole lot you can really do with that genre if you're sticking.

In a sound way, he has, but in a lyric way, like, what else can you say? Meaning. Yeah, at its word, it sounds like just Christian rap you know the stereotypical this is like hilariously bad

type stuff but that's only the first song I will say you mentioned Ultraite Beam and I will say this song is better than that because if you have a shuffle of random songs this song will always fit in better no matter what but Ultra Light Beam is obviously

better for the life of Pablo but I just find this a lot easier to listen to. I could see that because of how short it is but I think the the lyrically Ultralite Beam is so much more interesting And Ultralight Beam actually goes somewhere

Yeah it has like multiple different people Doing verses and what they're saying Is actually really interesting Yeah to me anyway As much as we can go into the loop And everything find that Things need to sound good You need to be able to listen and have fun

Well yeah that's not really a problem of any of his albums though Like they all usually sound pretty incredible production-wise and there's there isn't really any complaints I have about that or maybe a couple here and there

but we'll get to that as we go second song what do we think of this one to me this is not insulting or anything it's just weak it's not very memorable again it's just a very short song

there's no real memorable hook or memorable moments particularly the song has like no chorus and it's just got people saying it's like a concept it's like he's just sort of coming up with ideas of

oh this would make a good song but then it ends yeah because it's so short barely really explores anything lyrically is just kind of annoying because it's just quoting John 8 through 3 in the Bible

and other segments like it again already on the second song you're seeing a repetitive like I'm fine with the idea of exploring religion through an album. Like, I don't care that he is religious or not.

Just apply it to yourself and communicate it in a way that's interesting and creative. Not just this top level. Jesus is everything. Like, it's like we've missed the interesting part of, like, how he's compartmentalized in his head, why being religious is important to him. It just is important to him at this point. And, like, I mean...

Well, he speaks about it as if it's important to everyone, you know? Like, it's just a fact that God exists and people need to respect that. Yeah, and we'll go more on to that as we go on. I didn't like this song at all. Yeah, to me, it's just right down the middle. You could pluck it out the album and not much would change, really, in my opinion. Like, it's just fine. Three, the first good song and the best song in the album for me is Follow God.

Yeah, I was going to say best song in the album. Yeah, 100%. It kind of sounds like the classic Kanye. Yeah, it sounds more sang that Kanye. that Kanye typically do like back in you know like five years ago this is a very Kanye song

yeah because it's built around like a really classy sample that props everything up yep gives it like a that grand sort of air that it's after unfortunately it is really short it's only a minute 45

I don't know if I'd want more though particularly it's incredibly short yeah and for me the rule of thumb with this album is it's kind of a balancing act of, because they all have really good production, it's can you

present the lyrics in a way that isn't so distracting that I just can't listen to it, I can't justify listening to it. And because of his flow being so quick and the word play being a lot better on the song, I'm able to listen to it and not immediately be pulled out by the fact that it's just

someone saying Jesus is king over and over and over again. Yeah. A lot of the songs, I think, have a much slower tempo than most rap songs. so you can really hear what they're saying I would not ever class this as rap this is not a whap album he wraps on it though

and this song is the most rap heavy song and surprise surprise it's the best song on the album yeah because that is what Kanye is good at yeah like and that's kind of all like what's even the song

what is it about follow God I can't say I really analyze the lyrics particularly but I mean he's just talking about like following God yeah it's like the you don't need to analyze further than just the name of the song

and you just know exactly what is going to be said based on the name of the song alone does he swear once on this album no it's it's squeaky clean that's incredible yeah so a lot of people are upset that it just to them seems like kind of filtered can you like you're kind of missing bits here and there but i i don't necessarily agree. Like, I think you could make a non, I don't know, sweary, rude rap album and have it still be interesting, but not with this angle. Yeah, yeah. Um, now song four closed on Sunday, arguably the worst song on the album for me. Because I think it's the worst, lyrically. I don't, I wouldn't say it's the worst, because you ain't going to forget this song.

No. Well, it's memorable, but that's what I said before we started recording. It's the most memorable song on the album, but for all the wrong reasons. I think, progressionally, the song gets much better. It gets really good at the end, but it just, you have to get through the first, very slow, very dull to be able to get to... Yeah, the production is amazing on the song. It's noted down that it's the first one that kind of sounds almost like it's from a musical. I found that a lot of the songs on this album

come across like that towards the middle and end I'll mention the others when we get to them It's quite a creepy sounding song as well Yeah I'm gonna go into that when we go to a song coming up But there is this weird kind of creepy unsettling I think unintentional vibe to this album Yeah Which we'll talk about in a bit

But this is when it really begins It kind of if I had to put it in a word I know I haven't seen the movie But I've seen Trares It just reminds me in midsummer Like this weird kind of weird feeling. Cults. Yeah, cult like thing. Yeah, I guess we've got to be careful about just...

I don't want to come across, like, I just hate all Christians and believing in that. No, it is a specific thing from this album. Yeah, it's not just the fact that he is Christian and believes in those values. Like, there's something more going on, I think. But this song, this one makes me really... realize how it could be Yandi, a sequel to Yeezers. Right. Because it's like the hold my liquor of this album.

Yeah. And it gives me the same vibe that Yeezers did, which is like a guy that's kind of either losing it or has lost it. Yeah. Like it's coming from the perspective of someone that's just broken. But there's something, the hook of the song is closed on Sunday. day you my chick fillet which is so incredibly bad what does it even mean well we don't have chick filet here in the UK so I'm sure do we chip fillets in England now well like not like in

the UK it's not like KFC you can't there's like two um taco bells in the UK so they're technically here but like as a rule we don't have like chip fillet and um a lot of these American chains so already it's like a weird lyric to put in an album that you he knows is going to be listened to worldwide. It's such like a douchey like California line to me. It's quite Twittery though. Like, yeah, that's what I also

hear about it as well as though. Had you heard of Chick-fil-A before? Yes. Had you? Yeah. There you go. What's the lyric again? Closed on Sunday, you my Chick-fil-A. Closed on Sunday, you my Chick-o-Land. But like, it's just

It's a ridiculous comparison with, um, of course, church. No, but he's talking about someone, right? Because he says, closed on Sunday. So that person is closed on Sunday. They are his church. What does he mean by closed? Is my point. I don't know how to look into this because it's so fucking just weird.

I don't understand where any of it's like. Like, where the logic is in any of it. Well, I think he's just saying it because you... They won't. Chick-fil-A is famous for being, I guess, closed on Sunday. Yeah, but... I've heard that multiple times over the years. No, but I mean, is it...

And it's taking that lyric and applying it to this religious theme. No, but, like, what can that mean? A person being closed on Sunday? Like, you... Does it mean, like, this person is physically busy and not able to do anything else because they're at church and being a church. A church all day? I don't know.

It's just weird is what I'm saying. It's just a strange hook for a song to me. That's what I mean. It's like he's lost. It's like a product placement song, almost. What I find, the most about this song is it's a really weird contrast to like just Kanye. Like, his entire thing, every album he's ever made, this song is weird because of how, like, completely opposite is. to him.

Well, it's like making an entire song out of that bleached asshole thing from Life of Pablo. Yeah, but Lamer? Yeah. Worse. Because there seems to be... The album in general,

basically, there's no humor in it, really. No levity. But this... But then you get to this track. Humorous. I mean, this has to be humorous. I can't see how... It can't be serious.

Yeah. In which case... Because he screams Chick-fil-A at the end. Like, screams. That's a very Kanye thing. Yeah, like him, that's like... He literally says one of the lyrics are, you my number one with a lemonade.

Like, it's just like a love song, I guess. Because that sells. What does he mean with a lamp? It's so weird. Because he's just comparing it to like fast food. Like, I'll have a number one with lemonade. Ah. So it's like a really ultra lame, corny Christian rap thing to do.

The way he says it, is creepy. Yeah, because the guy he's a sex addict pervert, or he was. And that just doesn't work of this album. Literally every previous album, apart from Yey, is like, just

full of, like, sex shit constantly. Yeah, he is full of sex shit. Yeah. Do you not think that after, after, according to Sam, he goes back and, like, fucks five girls? That doesn't work with the whole fucking tone of this album. I don't think he is now. No, he straight appears.

I don't think he is right now. Because I think he actually believes the shit he's saying. Oh, so he's just click like that instantly yeah and we'll get on to that in a second but yeah let's just go on to the next one because the like wasted production on that one is really annoying to me because it sounds really interesting my my my comments I've like when I was seeing this I heard I just thought it was really groovy it'd be an incredible song if it Kanye wasn't on it yeah like if I could just listen to the instrumental I would yeah I would have a better time Kanye ruins this song

This album probably as an instrumental album Would be awesome really good Yeah it'd be very good Number five on God This is another one that like it sounds good But the lyrics suck Yeah I'd say the It has some of the best production to me

Like I want to like this song Just based on how it sounds Like it's a really good beat that they have going but again with the lyrics I'd say this one it's not so distracting that I can't listen to it I actually quite like this song but as you say

I guess the whole point is that it's him saying that God is responsible for like everything that he's done that he's got yeah he's saying on God as in it's been on God to get me to where I am and to where I am right now

on how finding God is, you know, giving me in some form of enlightenment or whatever. Yeah, that's why he's, like, so rich. I did note, I noted down there's a weird lyric towards the end, and I might have interpreted it wrong, but about how he sort of justifies the prices of, like, his merch or his music or something. Yeah, I heard that.

And he says, like, he needs to put food on the table for his family and whatnot, and that he's, because he had to get the, like I love money thing in somehow. He had to talk about, he had to flex his cash somehow and talk about how much money he makes. He doesn't know. Number six, everything we need. Everything we need. This is the one

with T.Y. Dollar sign and Aunt Clemens. Okay. This is the one where, when we were listening to it, I said I've got nothing to say. All I've written down is vanilla. Like, it's just an amalgamation of what's come before it. Yeah.

The song, the point of the song, is just him sort of he's explaining his glee for how content he feels that he's now discovered God I kind of I find this

I found this song in particular potentious but generally it's I don't know if pretentious is the right word I'd say preachy more so it's quite a preachy album like quite literally they literally have like preachers in it

this song though I found this is the song with the weakest production like the production is it's a pretty boring song like I'm struggling literally just listened to it and I can barely

even remember anything about it it's the most forgettable by far there's a weird lyric about if what if Eve made apple juice that I noted down she's just like okay whatever but what if Mary was in the club well yeah I noted that down because

we have mocked Life of Pablo for little things like that for ages and what if Mary is in the club line? What's that in? The fucking wolves. In wolves is so terrible. It's such a bad line

that there's no way to justify that and we've mocked it non-stop and this album is full of those kind of moments. Next up is water. Another one I really don't like, really don't mind this song. I don't either. But there's one thing, I think the start of it reminds me of Evangelion.

See, I don't, I don't hate this song. This might be my least favorite song in the album. Really? Yeah, I don't know why it really bugs me. I like the sound there of it. That's what I don't like. It sounds like nothing. It sounds... No, but I like, um, if you just, again, if you just took the lyrics out and we're able to just focus on the quite subtle, um, like, layers that they're,

they're doing in the background there is something to it it needs more exploration and expansion I mean it sounds like water you know like it sounds to me

see through there's nothing isn't that what the song's about though it's kind of a yeah but that doesn't mean I like it no no but what is it about these songs about water

like we it just flashes me back to when we were at primary school and there was because it was a Christian school we would sing drop in the ocean drop drop which is like this corny ass religious song which is so dumb Is it even religious? Yeah no yes

oh fuck I'm I'm getting it back in my head What's the religious aspect of drop in the ocean I'm sorry this isn't a Kanye song but no it's not It's not it's about like Like an environmental message I get No it's not even a it's no it's like Drop of emotion, drop of emotion,

we're part of the ever-changing tide. Like, we're all together, you know, and we've got to act as one. It's communism. It's a communist song from Russia. Yeah, it was water where it sort of starts to get a bit uncomfortable for me.

Yeah, maybe that's why I dislike. Yeah, because you're relatively deep in at this point, and it's like, man, he really did just make the most surface level Christian rap album Like this shit is going to be played in primary schools Like around America I'm sure

I would doubt that No no I would honestly I would not be surprised I could imagine hearing this water song in primary school No Why not Because They were playing black eyed peas in primary school

And they've got some pretty horrendous lyrics Do they? Kanye horrendous, horrendous? Yeah. Well, this album's not horrendous though. So yes, I think it will be played in schools. Alabama, fucking gonna love this song. This album?

They hate black people. Okay, precise that. There probably will be a commercially successful one because of that Jesus angle. It will probably get a few people jumping in. Well, let's move on to number eight, God is. Which to me is the most interesting song on the album for reasons that aren't the song itself. Because to me, and this could

just be me creating this insane narrative in my head around it, but to me this song reads like and this is a deep cut reference but, and only Jim will understand it, but there is a song in the War of the World's musical

where an insane character who has lost his mind is underground and he sings a song about like his hopes and dreams and what he wants to achieve. God is really reminded me of the energy of that character from that fictional work

where it's like the point in the story where the character is either done one or two things reached an extreme low before they climb out of the low or it's like a weird bittersweet ending for the character where in their head

they believe that what they're doing is true and just but from the like audience perspective they're they're gone so for me there is like this really kind of creepy disturbing

narrative around this song from my perspective that is a cool comparison yeah it it it made me come to a realisation about Kanye where in my head I'd seen him sort of as like and this is funny to think

but not like David Bowie but like David Bowie in the way that David Bowie was always sort of his own person and like he didn't give a shit what other people thought about him but this made me realize that Kanye is just a human he's just as flawed as every other human and it really kind of brought him down to

what comes across as like a really fucked up mentally all person and we mentioned the bipolar medication thing, and it is a really common trait of bipolar people to, if they do something like refuse their medication or, you know, look for a way to deal with the insane, unmanageable ways they're feeling, to become a devout religious person. Really? That's common behavior. And it's just too coincidental to me that, like, that is specifically mentioned that

this started being worked on as soon as you stopped taking medication. and then this album comes out and it's the most there's this ins we haven't got to the song yet but he says something about how there's nothing worse than a hypocrite and to me the way this album comes across is that like it is that he's being insanely hypocritical based on his behaviors I wrote down as like notes for the whole album contradictory to everything. that's that he said before like because the album the album seems to almost be condemning his old stuff like we'll get onto it and we talk about his next song which is literally

about this very topic I think but yeah is there anything else about God is just eh nice the only thing I wrote down is that Kanye I'm sorry

but he can't sing well he's got like this weird gravelly voice in the song and I think he's trying to channel one of those um those priests that have like a really strong commanding voice no because he's doing like a high pitch I think it's that his voice

literally can't do it on the album though this is the song I'm the most obsessed with because of that that reasoning though because I'm just like I keep listening to it on repeat like this is just so interesting to me like not even because of what the song really is but what I'm implying about it and what I'm trying to piece together in my head just as inspiration that was yeah one of the more interesting things about it to me but hands on is next one of the

better songs again I think yeah I agree um creative production it's quite weird and different which I like to hear it's it sounds good but also So again, it's got that sort of creepy vibe. Well, yeah, because this is the one where he says literally in the lyrics about how he's been working for the devil, sort of implying that everything he's done beforehand is sort of, you know, devil. All of his bad behavior is blamed on the fact that he was working for the devil. Yeah, I mean that could mean like the shitty things that he has definitely done

or it could mean all of his swearing and his rap music Yeah Either way it's very just like What's so So for you It's bad to listen to your old music That made you famous

What are you trying to say? Like on God as well He's like thanking God for getting him to where he is But it's actually The devil got in there Yeah It's a very intellectually dishonest sort of approach to the material because it just comes across like yeah he's been in an incredibly low place because he's lived this insane life and no one's brain can you just can't comprehend that kind of thing and the way especially with how mentally ill he is um and you can't deal with it in normal ways so what he's done is he had he tried the medication route and clearly maybe it didn't work for him and now he's going to be

in the other route, which has become a diehard Christian. Yeah, what? Oh God, don't say that, no. I don't want to take anything that he says in this album too seriously until his next album.

Because if he's back to just like goofing about with the lads in his next, like, he said on Twitter, like, I said I'm going to do a gospel album and here I did it. like so was it to him just experimenting with yeah that's the thing that style i i don't know and if if that's a really shallow album idea to me yeah but next with his next album if it's in the same vein as this then this album i think will be better yeah i could agree because that creepy stuff

will be even like, well yeah, because you're trying to figure out, did you mean that part? Was that supposed to be sort of satirical? Was that a jockey line? Like, he's done so much in the past. Yeah, and again, with the existence of the Chick-fil-A bit, like, how serious is this to him?

Yeah, that to me is so stupid, fucking you my Chick-fil-A. That's what's so confusing to me, because I genuinely don't know. I don't think anyone, I don't know. He doesn't. Everyone just has to play guessing games with all of his stuff because it's just so bizarre. like that sometimes it just I don't want to get into jar personal too much but it

reminds us of a situation we've had in our lives literally and if if Kanye does go deep into this and we never get a good Kanye album again this album will feel really weird like I don't even maybe that's why I had the extra layer of discomfort having a friend that is done the same basically and cult yeah relatively recently that rings true for us obviously. Yeah, this year. Number 10, use this gospel. It's the same, it's repetitive,

it's just the same as the songs before it. This one, I think this is the second best song in the album. Really? See, I really don't like this song. Really? I do not like it. Yeah, because it seemed to be, again, familiar territory where it seemed to be channeling

Twisted Fantasy a little bit with that, like, like humming thing um well there's the humming thing in the previous song as well they they use like the same effect yeah but i thought the lyrics were especially bad in this one when when i say favorite song i'm not listening when i just put my headphones in and listen to a song from this album i am not listening to what you're saying like i can't otherwise then i i don't like the song I'm sorry, in my opinion it's a poorly written album

every single song on it so I'm just listening to the music and his like vocals This one's the one with a saxophone isn't it Yeah and that's the part that I really like Well yeah I like I like the idea of that And that coming in and having like a bit of class But I mean

You have to get to it first Through all this just preachy just Yeah, but the whole album is preachy But some Some songs are definitely worse than others For that But Chick-fil-A is the least preachy But you said that's the worst

Yeah, because it's just dumb And like it doesn't fit The rest of the album With the rest of the album Seemingly so serious And suddenly you have this Chick-fil-A song That sounds like it's from

Life of Pablo or something Really weird choice to have that in there And finally 11 Jesus is Lord It's a 40 second long sort of outro And It's just nothing Like I mean

That's I wrote down number 11 Nothing It's the kind of thing Where it's like Yeah no one's listening to these Intros and Outros Unless

It's like a bookend to an album Like Demon Days And a few guerrillas albums Do that sort of thing And it's cool there Because the whole album's good But and that's sort of the whole album

um interesting fact that I saw was um Adam Tyson who became West personal pastor after April 2019 was present in the recording studio of the album and helped tweak certain lyrics to articulate the gospel more clearly so it has the literal hand of God

in the album okay so that's literally see why it sounds like a cheap fucking Christian Wap album yeah exactly like it just sounds like one of those as a result

like you know what out of touch pastors would think would be like yeah this is what you've got to use your I think your fame to do

to spread the Lord of Jesus the word of Jesus I don't think I can listen this album ever again I think that's a the more you listen to it the worse it becomes and the more you think about it

the worse it becomes, the more you analyze the lyrics, the worse it becomes, unless I'm missing something major. I'm sure people in the comments will say, but the worst thing that religion can do to someone is like take away their personality. And Kanye has... That's one of the biggest problems with this album. It has no voice, no personality.

It sounds like the church... It sounds like the church made it more than Kanye did. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, the best thing about each Kanye album is that you learn a bit about him. Like, we already knew that he was really... religious and what else does this album teach us like personally about that man nothing yeah he he has nothing to say on this album because you can only say I believe in God so many ways without it being

like this weird like argumentative preachy thing which at points it it does reach that kind of level and the reason I keep saying it's preachy is because it isn't it's not very very accepting of um any other like idea yeah or any other religion yeah which i'm sure is normal of like that kind of you know christian rock of gospel yeah gospel kind of music but it ain't like it ain't on vogue it ain't fashionable it's just like what the fuck this is yeah it's just weird this is just clearly the result of someone who is lost and they're using the church as a way to try and pick themselves up and find themselves and that is what's kind of it keeps it interesting to me but i don't know if i'm interested for all the wrong

reasons like for the same way i'm interested in all these like atrocious films that like i'm obsessed with like is it on that sort of level where i'm just trying to explain explain it because i really think it is quite vapid and like he's got he's got some like his worst song Kanye's worst song to me is drunk and hot girls. I think that song is so awful. Lyrically, it's just insulting to me, and I hate that song. And there's nothing as bad as that on this album, to me.

But it's like the inverse of whatever album that was on. I can't remember graduation. Yeah, I think it's graduation. Yeah, it's like the inverse, where there's like one really good song, and the rest is just... awful so what i'll ask what do you think of this album overall disappointing it is disappointing it's just just lame it is a lame album yeah and i think it's a waste the

talent that went in is such a waste of waste because this same production with um someone else writing lyrics for it could have been incredible like actually actually incredible stuff yeah and they could have even still had like the religious aspect in it you know it's the fact that it doesn't it doesn't look anywhere apart from at god yeah the comparison i could think of was like imagine the film district nine but take out the aliens take out all the cool guns and sci-fi elements just take out everything so there's just nothing interesting about the movie and then all you're left with is this really obvious

metaphor, really obvious statement. And I say, okay, so what's the point then? No, nothing. Yeah. It's not going to change anyone's minds. It hasn't really explained his mind to me

and why he feels the way he does. Like, it really is just a one way really not learning much here. It's weird how bipolar his music is, though. was it this year that he released i love it yes was it this year was it last year no it was this

year it was either the end of last year or yeah wasn't that long ago um no i'm i think it was last year it was last year yeah it definitely was right but um you're such a fucking ho i love it well that to me is very like on the nose like he knows that it's ridiculous Yeah, but still he's saying it Yeah And now look at what he's saying in this Like that's why I just don't believe a word of it It's a complete, yeah

And like there's way more of Kanye being Gross and Sweary and all this shit That's what I always liked about him there He was so like unfiltered And like he just He was completely candid Yeah like even an open

Yeah And now he's like the opposite Like I don't even know him anymore Yeah he seems more medicated now that he's off meds yeah yeah like medicated by religion sounds weird I can't say given all the reasons we've given and how there's like only two good songs this album is not in the middle it's shit you cannot argue this album's in the middle when there's literally two high points

with the West being low you can't I don't think you can say it's it arguably it's just probably his worst album I can I would totally understand someone yeah making a case for that yeah and I mean on the inverse

if you're like really religious this might be your favourite one yeah because it was speaking yeah I will say though yeezers I prefer yeezers to this album

because that's your previous least favorite yeah it probably was but even then we like we've I know there's something somewhere somewhere

saying that this album kind of grew from Yandy. I've listened to the Yandy leak, and I'd take Yandy every single day over this album. That had, well, unbelievably shit as well. There was actually, like, charm there. It had charm, it had something. It wasn't, like, kind of lifeless. Well, this is what Kanye has made

when he is perceiving himself as being happy. And normally happy people don't make interesting music. Yeah, that's true. Happy people aren't talented. Because they're happy. If this is all of the future world we'll see from Kanye, I'm going to be sad. Okay.

Just so we all know, those, any time I said Kanye tweeted that or something, I was wrong. I must have seen memes or something. Okay, so this is it. Bye, Kanye. I'm going to end the show. I'm going to end the show with Kanye himself. I'm Mr. Y'all, Kanye.