JAR Media Posdact - It‘s About DRIVE, It‘s About POWER - JARCast 249.1

Episode Date: October 25, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's a, um, like a vocal exercise you normally do? Um, there's this video on YouTube that I just like put on. It's this guy who's like, now say V. V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V, V. Now see. Go. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Go, go, go.
Starting point is 00:00:27 It's one of these, you know. you know but you've got to just keep going and going for how long until he interrupts you and starts a new one Jesus yeah it's only like five minutes
Starting point is 00:00:40 I guess it's about strength it's about power we stay hungry we devour take what's our good afternoon morning evening or night so they just leave that and just keep going yeah um and welcome to episode 249 point one of the jarcast i'm your host alix joined by
Starting point is 00:01:15 just jim again james is uh he's man flew to the max in fact he was here five minutes ago yeah he got angry when i wouldn't put on old double old dog does new tricks or something old dog new tricks fails compilation or whatever yeah he got angry and then he stormed out we just drove off anger before we get too deep into the show let me shout out the jail media Patreon
Starting point is 00:01:39 they make the audio version possible and have their names read out in the first week of every month if they're a sandy tier or above um we normally have extra videos as well for the Patreon but this this virus has thrown everything to the curb for now
Starting point is 00:01:55 um the 14 day virus yeah it's genuinely so so god damn typical yeah it's like we we had everything planned out a day to to just get loads of stuff done like a bulk recording just a moment yeah and then you get it all and then that date approaches and suddenly james just goes down down hard yeah i'm okay now um james still suffering you got it a little bit yeah i'm fine for the most part but yeah we're in a bit of a sorry state we're feeling sorry for ourselves listening to uh nice uh rock raps to keep our moose high which we'll get into a little minute i guess um but first we should probably clean up a bit do some housekeeping just got two just two comments just two two things to address from this one that i felt unnecessary from uh last episode um
Starting point is 00:02:50 yami no Mizu is going to start us off and conclude our little discussion on the Zodiac Killer that we brought up because his name was revealed or supposedly revealed and it was called Gary Gary Post or something
Starting point is 00:03:06 but it's apparently fairly contentious let's read this comment and see what we think the theory on the Zodiac Killer falls apart when you look at it past the surface honestly when you read the theory it doesn't really actually line up properly with the zodiac. It's based on him being the potential killer of a potential
Starting point is 00:03:26 victim of the zodiac who may not have even been killed by the zodiac depending on who you ask and has never been officially recognized as a victim of the zodiac specifically, but the media doesn't want you to know that. This isn't even just the first time this has happened. We've had people claiming to have solved the case for years, yet none of them have had solid evidence. And I feel like I've actually read articles like that before, that just go nowhere. The case breakers seem to have done this before too. I can't remember what specifically was the last one,
Starting point is 00:03:54 and they don't seem to actually be that dedicated to the case beyond the fame of solving it. Anyone who actually is dedicated to the case seems to think this is just bullshit, which is justified. There really isn't much going for it, just circumstantial posts, which seem to be inside jokes taken literally,
Starting point is 00:04:11 and him just happening to have the same job as the person that killed one of the very, victims, which isn't proof. There's tons of people with that exact job in situation. Also, the original sketches of the Zodiac Killer didn't have the scar that was added on later. Basically, the guy doesn't fit. The case breakers are just trying to make it so. We were kind of saying that part of us was hoping that it wasn't true. Yeah, in a depressing sort of way. But it's always been the case. I think there's like a half-life when it's.
Starting point is 00:04:44 comes to murderers and discovering the real one and past a certain point it becomes pointless yeah the statute of limitations and everything yeah yeah like just so much time has passed yeah and it sort of in a way the real person it doesn't really matter we failed we failed to get him when he was a problem he's not a problem anymore yeah yeah it doesn't matter if he died in 2018 or died in 2004. Yeah, exactly. What's done is done. Like this comment
Starting point is 00:05:20 from a slushy bear who said, and this is on the whole topic of the ongoing ape slash monkey just discussion. Right, yeah, it's just core. Other boys familiar with the whole monkey hate subsection of YouTube, where
Starting point is 00:05:36 there are hundreds of videos from India of people killing slash harming monkeys. Being someone who loves the silly little fellow, it's pretty shocking finding these videos randomly during my daily funny monkey video pursuits. I have a vague memory of bringing this up during like Corncast or something. I have mentioned it before, I think.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But this is dark, this is not what I want to be hearing. Yeah, how is that allowed on YouTube? Yeah, surely that's the kind of stuff that needs to be cracked down on. Yeah, we can't have... It doesn't matter what animal it is. I'm not going to stand for monkey hate Yeah because from what I can remember
Starting point is 00:06:16 They would like They were monetizing monkey videos And were just replicating more of the same videos Of whatever got the most views And like the crueler videos We're getting more views So it kind of perpetuates thanks to that algorithm or whatever But it's sad
Starting point is 00:06:33 Don't be mean to the monkeys We saw a little monkey video earlier When We were watching stuff with James on YouTube Yeah, yeah, as scary as monkeys can be It's our duty as the Apex monkey to not The Apex ape
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah, the ApeX Yeah, yeah As it were It's our duty to not You know Crush and And harm The lesser apes
Starting point is 00:07:03 And monkeys I did actually see a comment Someone left I didn't screen cap it or anything But it was in reference to orangutans and how they were saying like they grew up somewhere where they were
Starting point is 00:07:16 locally or whatever and they were known as like wise creatures or whatever but not to mess with them. I think there's a chance that orangutans like they know more than us I think orangutans and whales yeah
Starting point is 00:07:33 I think they have a deeper understanding of what it means to be alive yeah I've always got that vibe off whales especially with I don't know if you agree with the the noises they make and like whale sound and like going on a YouTube video of like a whale call
Starting point is 00:07:50 from underwater to me is it's viscerally terrifying yeah it's a form of communication like we don't we don't understand it feels like an eldritch like a yeah like a lovecrafty
Starting point is 00:08:04 love crafty yeah yeah yeah they're so far beyond us trying to comprehend what they're doing just sends you down like a dark part and yeah just the vastness of it like such a huge creature making like an equally like vast noise yeah and it's but it's so like serene at the same time yeah it's these conflicting i think that's what it is yeah because it there is some because some people listen to it like in a calming way there's that yeah yeah in the big lobowski where it's like listening to the way of noises to like yeah zone out no i i could not really I just find, yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:42 especially now and like they go like real deep, some of them and they're like calling for miles. Yeah. It's just creepy stuff. I don't like it. There's just no in the comments if you like whale calls. Yeah. That is interesting.
Starting point is 00:08:59 The horror slash enjoyment rating of certain. Yeah. I wonder where it tips. Does it tip into the, do more people find it scary? than calming or do more people find it calming? What does your gut tell you on a large scale? On a large scale, I reckon people think it's more calming.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Really? We've sort of been told that. Yeah. You listen to whale calling. Is the average person as afraid of the ocean as I am? I don't think so. That's been a deep-rooted thing in my mind. Like I remember in the swimming pools when going to swimming lessons,
Starting point is 00:09:38 like I would motivate myself to swim by imagining um like scary eldritch like fish and whales mostly like shark type things but even though it was in you were a very good swimmer as well why do you think I was so good yeah that is a motivating class it clearly worked yeah I've got really clear memories of that and also having um foot cramps while swimming because like I didn't I didn't know like what was happening like sometimes like it's just oh I guess there's just like a chance sometimes you're like football lock up again it's just from like not stretching properly or like not being properly hydrated probably yeah but I remember like just having a um a cramp in the swimming pool was horrible because you're like still got to swim you can't just stop swimming well do you know the
Starting point is 00:10:32 the on land foot cramp hack they're like stretch no stand on it if you're having a foot cramp and like lean into it and like stretch but like if you're stood on your foot it won't cramp hmm really what about if you get it like the most painful ones are the ones that strike you in the night I don't know if you ever get those in your foot um not always my foot but like my lower leg muscle yeah the calf cramps that's a yeah calf cramp yeah those are the ones that like leave you writhing in pain and you can't walk when you wake up if they like strike you in the night type no because it when it catches you in that docile state you just sort of you're in you're in pure
Starting point is 00:11:19 agony but you let it happen the whole thing and especially when it's things that strike you in the night as well and you're like half conscious half asleep still and you're like yeah you know you know you're in severe pain yeah but you're not able to do anything you're like in with it to measure what's happening to you. Yeah, it's horrible. Oh, I'm betting gonna have a cramp tonight now. Yeah, speaking of cramping, we should mention our beverages. That's a new jar thing.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, yeah. I'll start. I've got a nice beer a Moretti here. That is an A-class lager. Yeah, they had the three bottles for a fiver thing, so I got a Moretti, I got a cobra, and I got a Corona, feeling very fast and furious family-like. But yeah, this is probably the nicest one out of those three. Honestly, I think it might be the best lager. You know.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Out of them all. See, I always forget it's a lager, but yeah, it is. And it's delicious. Yeah. I feel sorry for anyone that doesn't have easy access to beer in Maratti. We're not sponsored. no but if beer wants to hit it so I don't know
Starting point is 00:12:39 I don't think alcohols really sponsor YouTube content do they it's not one I've seen it's no like it's not a VPN or like underwear yeah true there is like a weird amount of you know there's shreddies there's the one about shaving your
Starting point is 00:12:56 cock balls yeah yeah the balls one um I think Ryan Reynolds has like an alcohol company or something he's got gin yeah and he just recently He recently sold it for like hundreds of millions. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Right at the similar time he announced that he's taking a break from acting. I mean, that's a great thing. Do you think he stumbled across Jha and saw... I saw the freak guy. He saw me and my disdain for everything he's ever done. He's just like, you know what? This guy's right. Oh, fuck Nuggets.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He's got me. Yeah, going back to beverages With this This flu-like thing that we've We've all had I knew that whiskey was meant to be a A remedy for congestion So
Starting point is 00:13:49 It does weirdly help Yeah, I started drinking I had a little glass on one of those nights Where I had it bad Yeah, it does make a genuine difference If you have a cold or flu or whatever But Something about this illness I had
Starting point is 00:14:05 had made me totally 180. On whiskey? On whiskey. You've reset the whiskey. Yeah, I absolutely despised it. But now it's delicious. Did you say which one that was, sorry? Lefroig.
Starting point is 00:14:20 But right before we started recording, you said, LaFleuhrig is disgusting. This is where it could easily 180 again go full 360. Lefroig is foul. I thought Lefroig's whole gimmick was that it's supposed to be a marmite type. whiskey where you either love or hate it yeah yeah it definitely is they're
Starting point is 00:14:42 their like motto is something about like a whiskey that tastes like you're making out with a mermaid it's got it's got like a fishy taste oh right okay and it's smoky yeah it's it's really weird why would a mermaid be like smoky unless it was like that seal we saw or on the beach. Maybe you're having a barbecue with her. Yeah? Down under. Do you remember that charred seal?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Child seal? No, chard. Like chard isn't? Oh, yeah. That flossier. Yeah. Poor chard seal. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah, we stumbled across a seal that had just been beached, I guess. It died in the ocean. This was a beach in Wales, I think. Yeah, that's right. And someone had set it on fire. Yeah, poor thing. Like, I don't know how it got there. Maybe they were trying to get rid of the corpse, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, they tried to set a seal on fire. No, it's just like a dog cheering on it. Yeah, it wasn't our dog. That's right, yeah. It was a Labrador, though. Really? Yeah, it was a black Labrador. A dog who went up to the seal and just started to.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, because we were only kids as well, and it's just like seeing that. I was like, Jesus Christ, this is. Yeah, because especially as well, seals are like dogs of the ocean. Yeah. So it was like a dog eating it's not so distant relative. Yeah, it's so dark. Yeah. Man, the animal kingdom's rough, man.
Starting point is 00:16:18 That's what you learn from what is a big fail YouTube videos. Yeah, that as well. No, but dogs in particular. Like just today, you had a dead bird in your garden. Yeah. Yeah, really, um, really nice bird, actually. Yeah, beautiful. just in like the driveway of my house just like pretty much perfect condition just dead there and it's like really noticeable because it was i don't know what type of bird it is super colorful um so i can't just leave this here so you threw it in your garden no so i put it in a bit of tupperware and i put it on top of the um the compost bin thinking do i put this in the compost bin yeah um but then
Starting point is 00:17:05 Then it's kind of windy here, so, like, the, it was blown off the top of the compost bin, I let the dogs out, and then I caught Paisley, like, running around with it in it, her mouth. Which I had to do with it. But, like, we sort of humanize our pets. Mm-hmm. And then, there's always a moment where you're like, oh, yeah, these things are just pure animals. Yeah. They don't give a shit that this... They have a different rule set to us.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah. Maybe more consistent than ours. Predictable. We actually have a fair few topics. There's one you made me note down, which I don't really understand. I got a few. Where do we want to begin? We could start with this rock rap thing.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I don't know how long. That will keep us going. Want to start there? Yeah. So one of the kind of descriptions of the Jarl Media podcast is that it's kind of a rock fan cast as well The Rock is in Dwayne Johnson I don't know which he prefers nowadays Except there was a time I remember he didn't want to be known as the rock I thought he was legally stopped from being the rock
Starting point is 00:18:28 Legally oh because it was like tied into the whole wrestling Yeah like for a long time time he was Dwayne the Rock Johnson Yeah That was him Yeah And then suddenly it stopped And it just started being
Starting point is 00:18:39 Dwayne Johnson Hmm And And someone said at some point Or I heard it somewhere That it was a legal thing Oh okay But
Starting point is 00:18:54 Yeah Dwayne is He's hopping into the music scene With this What's it called the Face off Yeah, face off Not the Nicholas Cage movie
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah, but I figured Because I saw like when this started trending And when people were talking about it Like I figured he'd actually made like a whole song himself Instead of being like Yeah Like a cameo basically Which is like the equivalent
Starting point is 00:19:27 Like I'm looking at the lyrics here And his chunk is just a tiny, section at the end which is all I've seen from it but there's this whole like build up in the song like minutes and minutes of like other people that aren't the rock before he jumps into his bit um shall I read off a couple of these bars
Starting point is 00:19:45 yeah hit me with the bars um just like really unique lyrics the type of stuff I've never heard Duane say before it's about drive it's about power we stay hungry we devour putting the work put in the hours and take what's ours
Starting point is 00:20:03 That's the main bit That's the best bit Yeah, that's the bit everyone's going to remember The most as well The other notable bit is the last line actually That is coming at you with extreme manner M-A-N-A Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:23 What do you think you means by that? Is it like a gamer thing? My man is low. I think it's more of a, um, like tabletop thing. A tabletop. Is the rock into like, tabletop
Starting point is 00:20:41 table top? Tabletop fun? Well, he, there's no way he's into video games. Yeah. There's it... The lyrics of the song confirm
Starting point is 00:20:53 that. This whole thing is about the grind set thing. When would he have time to play video games? The dude literally works out like six hours a day and then films awful just awful cinema in the rest of the time he has and then he goes to bed at like 7 p.m yes like how many we've actually got to talk about how many movies can he be in that are just the same movie like we watched that trailer for that Ryan Reynolds rock wonder woman thing it's like a Netflix like what was it I've seen the
Starting point is 00:21:31 trailer twice now just because I watched it with James and then when you came later I still like don't know even what the setup is really he just does this now like he was in jungle run or whatever the fuck it's called jungle cruise
Starting point is 00:21:47 jungle was the movie really called jungle crew it was called jungle cruise but he's also in a separate franchise um about jungles yeah rumble in the jungle what the fuck is it called
Starting point is 00:22:00 with jambanji Jumanji Yeah That one doesn't have the jungle In the title But it's set in a jungle Jumanji jungle Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:12 He always is the guy Waring like brown canvas With World War II weaponry In a jungle Yeah That's his thing That's his movie thing He's got that market
Starting point is 00:22:24 Like crazy cornered Yeah Yeah the brown clothing World War II weaponry guy In the jungle Yeah, he's the guy you go for when you write a script involving those things Honestly, out of every like Hollywood trend like onslaught of rock jungle movies I was not Yeah, how could anyone have predicted that and this new one is like could you remember what it's called? It's like so fucking generic I can't remember any
Starting point is 00:22:54 But honestly when I watch the trailer I I stop absorbing it as if it's new information and I just see it as if it's new information and I just see it as it as it's if it's like my mind conjuring like just a bunch of tropes from like Hollywood shit it looks like a fake movie it looks like you were like is this in like the Fast and Furious universe it very well could be
Starting point is 00:23:16 because all three of the actors are in that universe the universe in which Dwayne Johnson wears brown canvas in a jungle but I can't those three actors in particular to the rock Ryan Reynolds and Wonder Woman Galgado
Starting point is 00:23:33 Galgado Like They are three of the most They're not actors to me Like all I see when they're in a movie is them Like I used to I used to use Tom Cruise as that example But he's too good of an actor
Starting point is 00:23:48 And he has too much of a varied Like history of different roles Where I can't say that about About these three, this trilogy You know I was This is of Ryan Reynolds tangent, but I watch
Starting point is 00:24:03 life. You're really going into the classics. Awful film. Dreadful. What's so bad about it? I don't even want to start. Like, the amount of thoughts I was thinking, like, I could make a
Starting point is 00:24:18 fucking 12-hour video breaking down how terrible this one is. You were that passionate about life. Yeah, it genuinely really angered me. Really? Because that was one I remember just being, like, within 20 minutes. It's known exactly what he's going out and then just glazing over type thing.
Starting point is 00:24:35 No, but I wanted to have this razor focus on it because anything Ryan Reynolds does, I just want to break to pieces. Again, I have nothing against Ryan Reynolds, obviously. But, no, I genuinely think Ryan Reynolds could be a great actor. Mm-mm. So what is your deep-rooted issue with, like,
Starting point is 00:24:56 he doesn't try? You think he's just settled for shit? like life. It's not that he's he's discovered that people like Ryan Reynolds. So when Ryan Reynolds is cast in a film, he plays Ryan Reynolds. He's not acting, yeah. And that is the most frustrating thing. It's the reason I hate the rock.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Again, nothing personal. But it's these, I find the rock even more frustrating, though, if all this stuff about his contracts are true as well. It's like, isn't the job of an actor to, you're playing someone. someone you're not yeah that's like that is what the job is you're you're able to perform yeah you change who you are that's what's so good about like Christian bail and stuff whenever he's in a movie yeah yeah like a different person yeah like a comedian just yeah whereas that's that's what makes Ryan Reynolds more frustrating than the rock because I don't
Starting point is 00:25:54 think the rock could ever be a good actor yeah he's just seen Southline tales yet true and Black Adam isn't out yet which could change everything I'm telling you it really could yeah but Ryan Reynolds I there's like glimmers of him when he tries and it's like wait
Starting point is 00:26:17 this guy's convincing in portraying this emotion you know yeah and he knows how to work on camera and perform yeah but in those boundaries That means he chooses not to.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Do you think he has that much power or it's the, by the time he's on board with a project and the way he's just directed and the way the material's written, like he's wedged into the Ryan Reynolds corner. Yeah, he's typecast as himself. Yeah. I'm sure that is an aspect, but it also means he's terrible at choosing what films he's in. Yeah. Yeah, he does have a particularly bad, like, IMDB, like, list of stuff. Yeah, the worst. it doesn't scream like
Starting point is 00:27:01 oh I'm really going for trying to change my image to be more of a character actor now this I'm just going to maintain my Ryan Reynolds status but what about life
Starting point is 00:27:16 just angered you so deeply um do you even remember well first of all it takes itself way too seriously mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:27:28 And if the film is taking itself seriously, I have to treat it seriously. Yeah, that's only fair. Yeah. But then when you write in so, it's like they wrote, like, this is going to happen. So we have to have some contrived bullshit to make it happen. I think there's one good, like, moment in the film that's when the alien is like outside. the ship and it's got to get back in
Starting point is 00:28:01 so the only way it can get in is by using like the jet boosters or whatever so that that is the one moment where it works the other time it's like when Ryan Reynolds is trapped in the room with the alien he uses a flame thrower to like keep it away
Starting point is 00:28:22 so the only part I remember is the whole like it starts off as like a small bacteria thing and it keeps like rowing. It breaks the guy's hand. Yeah, yeah. But no, this flamethrower thing, it really bugged me because like, so they had this science room where no bacteria could get in or out.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And they also have a flame thrower in there to kill whatever's in there. And so when Ryan Reynolds dies, the flamethrower floats in the air because there's zero gravity and then sets off the fire alarm which opens shit so the alien can get out oh so the flame throw is like floating there with the little like gas
Starting point is 00:29:09 yeah the little flame and the flame brushes up against the oh that's yeah yeah it's all coming back that shit like from that moment onwards I was like okay fuck this film yeah that's it doesn't make sense yeah it's really dumb um
Starting point is 00:29:25 I was trying to be like an alien thing like uh right yeah and the like when you think of alien like close your eyes think of alien that xenomorph is clear in your mind yeah life what does that alien look like what has been like did the xenomorph just ruin like aliens in terms of like since that movie like what is the classic like movie alien that's even come close uh pool Paul's up there Yeah, Paul's actually Yeah, you kind of slam me down with that as well
Starting point is 00:30:02 When you think of alien It's either the like The naked thing The lanky guy With a big head Yeah, the pool Yeah, pool Yeah, it's either pool or the xenomorph
Starting point is 00:30:15 That's it Don't try and make this weird Like flower squid thing In life Yeah, I suppose It's the, like, it has an infiltrated pop culture, like, even remotely, similarly to, like, the xenomorph, but, like, I like the alien approach in, um, that Netflix movie with the annihilation. I think that approach is cool, fairly unique. The bear?
Starting point is 00:30:43 No, but, like, the whole thing at the end, that's like an alien. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, without spoiling anything, but, um, we got to throw this one out here. Just that curiosity, to be honest, I just want to know why you wanted me to note this down. You told me to just note down a John Lewis advert. Yeah, I did. Why? This is a British thing. Yeah, everyone in the UK gets hyped when John Lewis releases a fucking Christmas.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Whenever we approach Christmas, John Lewis releases an advert. And every time it's the same fucking bullshit. Like some... I've got to admit, I've never watched a full one. You've never seen a fool... The thing is... Yeah, because I just didn't care. I've heard people talking about the John Lewis advert, like,
Starting point is 00:31:32 oh my God, this one's just, like, magnificent. It really changes the game. Right. There's one with, like, a bunny rabbit, I vaguely remember. Yeah, they've had, like, animated ones. With the slant always being, like, it's designed to try and make you cry. That's always, like...
Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah, so the way I see it is that every single one is trying to be the intro to up. Yeah? But what? What is that what it's become? Well, yeah, but this latest one changed the game. How?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Because I'm assuming you haven't seen any of it. No, I've seen none. So this time they're doing house insurance. Oh, okay. So they're trying to sell house, like John Lewis house insurance. Yeah, John Lewis house insurance. And they're using the angle of like,
Starting point is 00:32:20 this kid running through the house that's clearly like quirk. You know And he's like Drawing on the walls and shit And spraying shit everywhere Yeah I hate John Lewis I hate John Lewis
Starting point is 00:32:35 They're trying They're all Everything they do is manipulative You can Obviously those old ones With the snowman fucking melting And then some kid has a breakdown Whatever
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah that one really got me So that's just pure emotional manipulation. Now they're trying to manipulate people with like, you know, current affairs. This kid is quirky. He's just trying to be himself. It's like you can't make a statement after the statement's been made. That would have been... Do you think it's just inherently disingenuous because of where it comes from?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Well, yeah. The fact that it's... it's an advert. It's, it is not the place of a company to portray their, like, political views when they're also trying to sell what they are. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like, it really works on people, though, like, clearly. Yeah, but this is the thing. I, I, part of me that made me respect this latest one is that the first thing I saw on
Starting point is 00:33:47 Twitter was someone saying, that's it, I'm never going to John Lewis again. They're they're trying to portray all this what because someone got upset by yeah okay yeah i just i just tune out of this kind of thing to be like because i remember making like the video on like the the the hundred most disliked videos on youtube or something and a lot of them were like ads doing sort of things like that um but yeah it's it's the thing with this like nature of you know everything and like ads and the way the it manifests through online discourse and it's like is it actually starting productive conversations or is it just trying to use the like brownie points of what socially sort of but that's also part of it because it is an advert
Starting point is 00:34:42 even the the bad response to anything I mean bad quote unquote if it pisses people off it means it's being talked about. Mm-hmm. No publicity is bad publicity sort of thing. Right. Yeah, I haven't seen it. Was it like the, the Christmas one too? Well, I don't know, because it was trending on Twitter, John Lewis advert.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I assume it is the one. Because, yeah, it seems a bit earlier, I don't know. I'm not on the John Lewis, like, advert hype train, like, waiting for it to drop. Yeah, neither am I. But I've always hated. their adverts? Just Adverts in general
Starting point is 00:35:25 Like we went to We went to We went to We went to Dune yesterday Mm-hmm And it's like 25 minutes of ads For the movie starts
Starting point is 00:35:34 Or whatever And you're just like Really paid 12 quid For this fucking ticket Yeah Why I'm actually sitting through These like car adverts For
Starting point is 00:35:42 They're like linked to the movies And so many car Adverts as well Oh and all the trailers And everything It's just all I just tune out at a certain point because it's just like such an onslaught of like messaging
Starting point is 00:35:57 and especially like every ad now it's like full of so many like visual effects. Yeah there was a Barclays ad for it where this this girl is on like a laptop and then this gerbil on her laptop turns to her and just like you could fucking save so much money and then she fucking shoots into the sky and money is flying around and she
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yeah because I thought it was like pushing it with the CG guinea pick thing like looking at the camera screen thing or whatever let alone it just like becomes a model maybe yeah there are adverts now with better VFX
Starting point is 00:36:35 than like the prequels yeah and those movies had like hundreds of millions of dollars to spend yeah yeah I have such a strong memory of the first time I remember being like this is weird for like an advert to be flexing, like, visual effects of this level.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah. It was like a car advert for some, like, I don't remember what the fucking car was, but it was just like a car driving through some, like, alpine beautiful environment or whatever. And this, like, fucking CG, like, black goo shit just went like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 It was like this crazy imagery. Yeah, and the car's, like, driving away from it. Yeah, yeah. And that always stuck in my mind, like, what is fucking happening it's like such an excessive
Starting point is 00:37:23 like waste because it's like what are you actually enhancing with that like are you using storytelling to try and say like this like massive fucking energy
Starting point is 00:37:33 is what our car represent and even then it's like just showing me the fucking car it's like a vehicle I'm driving it you don't have to get
Starting point is 00:37:39 so fucking cocky about it you know fucking car adverts in particular man yeah they've got this like really
Starting point is 00:37:47 sterile like David Fincher as Yeah, it's like detached, like, uh... Yeah, they're driving through these, like, empty cities. Yeah, they're like, never have people in them. Yeah, and the cities are always, like, they're driving themselves. Yeah, it's like, they're all driving through, like, their stranding map.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it comes down to you with this John Lewis thing, I just hate adverts. And when you try to politicise something that you are selling, it comes off as disingenuous because you your end goal is to make more money through this thing yeah there is just something weird it's like oh have you seen that trending advert yeah it's like what do you mean like no but this shit was compare the meerkat is a big thing in the UK
Starting point is 00:38:40 who the fuck doesn't know this meerkat shit they've made a brand out of yeah well I think about that with like I associate it mostly with like primary school like the time where you're watching SpongeBob as soon as you get home you're seeing like the repeated ads like fucking constantly and like kids they just because it's all these like little ditties these little songs compare them are like what was that one go compare yeah it's like a song and shit but i don't think that one has the stopping power go compare doesn't have the stopping
Starting point is 00:39:16 power of compare the makeup i'm gonna say it but it like gets ingrained in all these like kids in the playground or whatever and they're just saying it like all getting like addicted to these little songs that they're like they don't even realize like and all these kids think like compare the me a cat is funny like the mere cat advert this is the genius of advertising I feel like we're a madman right now I was going to mention madman because that that show is like ruin the whole perspective for me because whenever I see like the John Lewis thing I don't I don't pick like even see the advert I just picture like the room of the mad men assholes like how can we fucking yeah get a new angle on this sort of thing yeah no but they've made a brand out of compare the meerkut yeah that what a meerkat has to do with comparing like insurance prices yeah it's like the most genius it's like so dumb that it works yeah because the original thing was like the people
Starting point is 00:40:21 in the plot of this thing there was compare the market and a separate website compare the meerkat and these meerkats were getting pissed off that people were accidentally searching compare the meerkat instead of compare the market that's right yeah there was a whole like story
Starting point is 00:40:35 yeah that was the narrative going on but then people just started recognizing well meerkat that was the thing and now they have like these these crazy plots where like his his uh butler whatever the fuck his butler's called his mere cap butler
Starting point is 00:40:51 it's like in space and shit doing like and isn't it like some it's like some british icon who like voices him or some weird shit oh I'm sure it's wild it's wild the advertising world is sickeningly wild
Starting point is 00:41:09 yeah and terrifying too the power it has yeah they brainwashed us to be like go compare in the fucking It's cool playgrounds. Yeah. Yeah, it's what I've always appreciated about, like, Blade Runner.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It seems like such a realistic, like, trajectory. Yeah, just... Advertisement is just blending with culture. Tell you what's not blending with culture very well, though, bro. That's wizards. Wizards? Yeah. I'm hoping you haven't heard about it.
Starting point is 00:41:49 this um oh shit so um i'm just going to bring up this article that's relevant because it comes from our home country of new zealand right i just want you to hear about this new zealand council ends contract with wizard after two decades of service the official wizard of new zealand perhaps the only state-appointed wizard in the world has been cast from the public payroll, spelling the end to a 23-year legacy. The wizard, whose real name is Ian Baccombury-Channel, 88, had been contracted to Christchurch City Council
Starting point is 00:42:35 for the past two decades to promote the city through acts of wizardry and other wizard-like services at a cost of $16,000 a year. He's been paid a total of $368,000. The wizard who was born in England began performing acts of wizardry and entertainment in public spaces shortly after arriving in New Zealand in 1976. When the council originally tried to stop him,
Starting point is 00:43:03 the public protested. In 82, the New Zealand Art Gallery Directors Association said he'd become a living work of art. And then in 1990, the prime minister at the time, Mike Moore, asked that he considered becoming the wizard of New Zealand and I'm pretty sure that the reason he stopped being the wizard is because
Starting point is 00:43:25 he was like cancelled he like said some dodgy shit oh yeah this is the quote it's bad I love women I forgive them all the time I never struck one yet. Never strike a woman
Starting point is 00:43:45 because they bruise too easily is the first thing, and they'll tell the neighbors and their friends, and then you're in big trouble. So the wizard is no more. Jesus fucking Christ. That was a roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I'll show you a little picture of him. He does look like a wizard. That much I'll give him. What kind of comment is that, though? Why would a wizard say that? yeah um i i prefer almost not know in the context of like why he felt the need to bring this up and make this point whenever he did um but the wizard is no more is it is it something about
Starting point is 00:44:27 people of that like age range like yeah Sean Connery it's like when you told me about that and i watched that yeah it's like men they hit an age and they're like right it's time to just talk about, like, how fucking awful I am. Yeah, I guess I just stopped caring. Just, like, fuck it. I guess I've been James Bond for long enough. Yeah. No, but this guy wasn't even James Bond.
Starting point is 00:44:54 He was just a wizard. No, he was something much cooler. A wizard. The only... That's lame. New Zealand's wizard turned out to be a cunt. Yeah. It's like so many reveals within, like, reveals.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah. Just learning. Yeah, like, I mean, first of all, New Zealand had a wizard. Like, who, who signed that, that paper to be like,
Starting point is 00:45:20 all right, let's give this guy 16 grand of taxpayer money every year. They just be a wizard. A wizard, like, is something that,
Starting point is 00:45:28 like, it's not a recognized, like, role in society. The first thing was that they tried to, like, stop him from being the wizard.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And then he, he, he, like, gained the power of the people. And they were like, no, we want them. wizard so then they gave all their taxpayer money to the wizard it was like the
Starting point is 00:45:47 yeah the most like politically passionate subject yeah like yes that's what's going on in new zealand like this is this is what they're working this is like a few days ago this article what the fuck this is what they're worrying about maybe every country needs a wizard like the Witcher universe where every every leader has a wizard yeah I mean how hard could it really be
Starting point is 00:46:22 I could be the fucking wizard I think the only thing you need is confidence it's the only thing yeah you just need to act like you're the wizard and you're the wizard yeah and you need enough money to get the hat
Starting point is 00:46:36 and everything yeah which I feel like in one of your boxes somewhere. Oh, yeah, I've got a witch's hat somewhere. I think James should be the wizard. He should just leave his beard. He can be the Wizard of Wiltshire.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah, the Wiltshire Wizard. Branch out into the West Coast. The Western Wizard. Yeah, maybe we should try and convince the Council to get him in on this. 16 grand? Yeah, 16K. Yeah, this is a good idea, like, genuinely. We're going to have a wizard.
Starting point is 00:47:11 wizard on our side in no time. We'll finally have a wizard just in time for Halloween. You know, apparently witches only have the green associated with them because of the Wizard of Oz. Because of the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Just because of the design of that movie. Yeah. I can believe that because witches were always just innocent women in history. yeah yeah you seen the Wizard of Oz no surprisingly sick really yeah
Starting point is 00:47:50 like an actual sick film yeah like I watched it like a year or two ago it's actually just really good my only experience with the Wizard of Oz was the conspiracy theorist I met it is one of those movies it's like closely it's got all these theories and like on there's there's like a shadow in the background of one of the scenes where there's like the the the gelfling that it's been hung or something.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah, that's the one everyone starts off with, but I think it's bullshit. That's like the the start of the rabbit hole, though. Yeah. Yeah, if that convinces you then it's just done. Like, you're just going into realms
Starting point is 00:48:29 you'll never be able to escape. And speaking of realms, you'll never escape. Like these messages. Life Can be a dick sometimes. So get your dick from out your hand. And don't be a dick, wear a dick.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Dick the head t-shirts available now. Check the description below. Welcome to the second half of the JARCast, 249.1. This is the part we answer questions from the suggestion thread over on the Jail Media subreddit head over there and ask us whatever you feel like, just like a underscore username 1917 did. who asks simply What's each of your guys's favorite James nickname?
Starting point is 00:49:15 Just as a refresher, here are a couple. I feel like we've answered this before, but I just enjoy going through this list too much. Yeah, let's hear it. Okay, we've got Ambershed Orange, Bloodcock, Craig, DeZucos, Gamer James,
Starting point is 00:49:30 I'm not any of these, I'm James, Jay Diller, James' dad, Jordan, Land Grandpa, Martian Mulf Hunter, Pierce Piss a dick Pouch Puff Puff
Starting point is 00:49:45 Rale Riepia Smart Mort The biggest Malteseer The Dad from Inside Out The Golden Freddy The Goon The Milk Maid The passionate napper
Starting point is 00:49:58 The Rick and Morty follower Tyler Durden And finally Vinnie Holy shit James are some good names yeah and each one is as good as the last yeah I my softest spot is for Jordan it was Jordan on there
Starting point is 00:50:18 yeah it was yeah Jordan has been a long stay so certain ones are kind of just they're sort of the creature of the weak names yeah yeah like I'd say like the biggest Maltese lover that's not a mainstay yeah yeah but it is true but it's true yeah
Starting point is 00:50:38 every single one is so applicable to James one one one I'm unexpectedly fond of is Raul Reapia because every time
Starting point is 00:50:49 someone like tries to spell it it's just like how does it spell here good here it's spelled R-A-L space R-I-P-I-A
Starting point is 00:50:59 the James spelling can't be matched that R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-E-E-R-R-R-R-R-E-R-R-R-R-R-L-R-R-R-L-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-E text form. Yeah. Rale Rupia is such a like
Starting point is 00:51:12 Modern World War Vett 2 names. But do you remember how he spelt it? Yeah, wasn't it? Rall R-P-I-A. Yeah, but all one word. But all one word.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah, so R-A-L-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-E. I also really love blood cock. That one is good. history of that one i really don't yeah i i don't remember because blood cock is a thing oh oh is yeah right i don't know well yeah either way blood cock is good um tyler durden has a soft spot for me as well honestly peter is like yeah it's really fucking good that that's really fucking good that that's
Starting point is 00:52:06 That one is special. But I have to go with my number one, Jordan. Yeah. If you didn't pick Jordan, I might. I feel like I've got to pick a different one. Oh, man. I'm really torn because... He's got so many good ones.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Yeah, they're so effective, like so many of them. Even Pavarch. Pouch is great. was actually what was catching my eye Yeah, I'm going to go A pouch Okay
Starting point is 00:52:42 I do have a A guilty omission to make What do you mean Back in school Back in secondary school Because obviously I've been known as Jim Amongst my close friends
Starting point is 00:52:55 For a long time Yeah Yeah But Jim is a shortened version Of James Mm-hmm Jim isn't a Jamie thing Jim is a James thing
Starting point is 00:53:04 But I didn't I didn't know this when I was stupid and young at the time and James was trying to convince me he was saying to me like no I'm Jim James could have been Jim
Starting point is 00:53:19 James was like I'm Jim that's me so in James's family would they call him Jim I believe so I believe his dad called him Jim and I was like no I'm Jim I'm only saying this because James isn't here right because I can't admit this to James but...
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yeah, yeah. By right, he is Jim. No, but by right, he's not Jim. He's Jordan. He's the most James James of them all. I'm sorry if you're a James listening, but... Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:52 But he's also the most blood cock, the most Jordan, the most Raleapia, the most pouch. Yeah, that whole list, you know. Yeah. Yeah, he is James, though. At the end of the day. What do you think his favorite one is? what is he just despise? He would just say I'm James
Starting point is 00:54:09 if he was here Yeah that is the correct answer And Esther Jack Dor Has an interesting one for us Just a bit of a bit of a suggestion Hello JAR Media Boys I wanted to tip you off On a great short film called
Starting point is 00:54:24 Scenes with Beans A title that could just as easily be a JARCAST episode It's a Hungarian stop motion short film From the 70s About a spaceship That is observing a world domination a world dominated by beans
Starting point is 00:54:37 who go about their business in bean cities, driving tins, pushing their bean babies in teaspoons. There are even multiple bean death scenes and a bean chase scene. It is visually creative and I think you boys would like it. You can watch it on UK Mooby.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Something I assume Alex may already be a member of since he's in cinema. They also have a seven day free trial. Sorry for the long post. Love you guys. Can't remember if I have Mooby or not. movie yeah because like the on amazon there are like 58 other like sub subscriptions you can get like for certain like there's the horror one there's the the indie film one there's the
Starting point is 00:55:18 the bean class one yeah the bean short film one yeah scenes with beans i'm intrigued though i'd be down to watch beans with scenes or whatever yeah hungarian short film from the 70s about beans? What more could you actually ask for? Nothing. Straight up. There isn't anything more you could ask for. Stapler left for this one for us. You guys can just turn your whole
Starting point is 00:55:48 podcast into a primate base discussion podcast for fun videos you see of them. I'd be down as anyone would be with taste. An interesting thing about great ape social behaviors is that for guerrillas in particular, They're actually very understand...
Starting point is 00:56:03 Oh my God, sorry. Still got a bit of a tickle going on. They're actually very understandable to humans. Guerrillas don't enjoy fighting, except as kids when they play wrestle. But otherwise, they would much rather simply live and let live. This is why there are photo opportunities where you can go in and see them up close. Psychologically, you don't just challenge them. Sorry, you just don't challenge them.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Which primates involve... With primates involves not looking them in the eye. and not making yourself look big. In this video, the silverback has no fear of the humans and no expectation for conflict, so he's happy to let his kids approach. And then eventually tells the kids to stop bothering the humans. It's very interesting stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:45 The gist of it is to allow them on that Sigma guerrillionaire grind set while you look like a beta homo sapien. I watched this video that he was mentioned here and linked in this Reddit comment. Um, and of course it's one I've already seen before. I think I'm actually getting to a point where if it's a bear video, if it's a gorilla video, if it's an octopus video, chances are I've seen it. Those are the ones. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Um, and it is a fascinating video. It's this guy who's like, he's just in the jungle chilling. And like, a silverback just like plants his butt like right behind him and the little kids are like there just like, analyze. in the human like yeah just curious little creatures and he's there just he's got his head down he's like making a point to not look at that silver back but otherwise like they chill until the silver back is just like yeah you've annoyed this guy long enough and just like walks off and then makes a grunt and then the kids just follow it's like damn it's so cool i do i've been thinking more about what you said last time
Starting point is 00:58:02 about like how meeting a gorilla it is like a bucket list thing yeah interacting with a great ape there's certain animals I feel like would do that to you like our parents have described
Starting point is 00:58:18 what it was like I think it was in America they were where they saw whales was it or was that in New Zealand one just seeing whales basically yeah and we mentioned where I was earlier and the whale sound and everything but and like going to the natural history museum and seeing
Starting point is 00:58:35 that model of a blue whale yeah it's not the same thing as seeing in a live creature with your own eyes but there's a discreet yeah it's still sort of fictional yeah it's all like yeah it's like in a science book so not yeah like seeing the the t-rex skeleton yeah yeah that that is just not the same feeling you'd get seeing a T-Ret. Yeah, yeah, of course. But yeah, that's one of them is whales. Yeah, I think it would be ridiculously grounding
Starting point is 00:59:10 to just see this thing that is so colossal in nature. Would you be willing to actually get in the water? And, like, I'm talking about you're, like, plopped into the ocean, and your
Starting point is 00:59:26 view is just, like, whale. It's just nothing, but, like, empty ocean and then the whale. You know what I mean? Like, it's just an abyss of just nothing, but that big whale there, and it's just you and the whale. I feel like if there's a whale around, there's not going to be anything scary. Chaos isn't going to ensue necessarily. Yeah, like a shark isn't going to go and fuck around with a whale.
Starting point is 00:59:55 You know, it's just like they know they can't take down a whale. I feel like in terms of the ocean, if you're next to a whale, you're probably good. Yeah, but then there's the whole other Eldrichian horror that comes with like... And this is another like childhood memory I have is reading about like, you know, humpback whales, they go so deep. Like, this is like insane. But when they go deep, they like come, when they come up, like they've got like marks all over them. like they've been in fights with like giant squids and it's like no that's a blue whale thing isn't it oh is that a blue whale thing too we recorded blue whales with like sucker
Starting point is 01:00:39 marks from giant squid from way down in the dirt but that is like it might be on back i'm not sure just imagine seeing that though like i i i picture like the start of like the second lord of the rings with like fucking and i'll find that it's like it's like that scale of like yeah Yeah, these giant creatures just going out to each other's throats. Yeah, the fact that we as a species didn't know if giant squid were a thing. And then it's just like, oh wait, yeah, they just are a thing. What the fuck else is down there? The Meg?
Starting point is 01:01:20 The Meg. Yeah, no doubt. There is something scary. There has to be. there's something much scarier and I don't get much scarier than giant squids yeah that's straight up aliens living
Starting point is 01:01:35 on our planet and we barely even know about them yeah I watched like the Wild Boys episode it was set in New Zealand and there was like a guy who's like a giant squid expert on it and he's got this like corpse of a giant squid
Starting point is 01:01:54 like in his fucking garage like on a table and he like picks it up and like falls over and it fucking slops everywhere and it's like pure gunge but you forget they've got like bird beaks yeah no that's the creepiest thing about them yeah it's like um that pirates of the caribbean straight up just like a cracking
Starting point is 01:02:18 yeah it's a thing yeah do you reckon these old sailors ever actually did just see something mental but they didn't have an iPhone to like snap a quick video of it. The thing is there are more ships travelling across the ocean than ever. True.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And now they do have iPhones. Why the fuck wouldn't we have seen a cracket and taken down some shit? Yeah, I stumbled across like I think it was like a weird Twitter account or something that was like um
Starting point is 01:02:53 like mythological creatures. like the apparently like proof of like pictures of them so we're talking like lot nest monster type images and big foot images and like this kind of stuff and I was having a good laugh looking through evidence the lockness monster is just factually not real all the pictures are really funny it's just like a like squiggle in the late distance yeah a little thing protruding out the water bigfoot I think it it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Do you reckon? Yeah. I'd love for Bigfoot. I would love the day Twitter's just like, wait, Bigfoot's real. I think we're ready for that now. Yeah. I think we're easily just like, crazier things have happened now. It'd just be like, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:48 What's next then, aliens? Well, no, aliens already happened. We've really, see, this is what I mean. We've already had aliens. We've already had the... Having the Sasquatch reveal would be a step down. So I feel like it's gonna... It's gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:04:03 It's a sad-scotch. Yeah. Yeah, the Yetis, Bigfoot, they're just a thing. Yeah, because I used to love reading about all those weird, like, stories as a kid, like the Chupacabra and all these... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was never that hype on the Bigfoot one, though.
Starting point is 01:04:20 But that was never like a... Like, did people see it as, like, a cool, like... scary idea is it like a what draws people to Bigfoot in this way? I think the fact that it just can't be disproven so like you can take any photo
Starting point is 01:04:38 Photoshop some like blurry thing into it and be like oh shit this is it and people are like well I mean I can't I can't factually know that it isn't actually Bigfoot yeah and the fact it's like
Starting point is 01:04:53 it's all it's a human like form yeah so like it could obviously just be like a like a human it could be a guy it could be a photoshop it could be bigfoot but what what is the theory like they're like a really rare group of like apes that like what is that they're saskatch they're just live in the the woods you know so they're like they're like giant orangutans that like walk on their back legs all the time yeah well you know the famous image
Starting point is 01:05:29 the Sasquatch image yeah yeah yeah the image yeah and he's like looking like he knows what's up but all of these images they always like have them knowing what's up well that that's his special thing about the Sasquatch to me because the
Starting point is 01:05:48 the Loch Ness would be like a giant eel or something like an an eel just wouldn't know what's up but a Sasquatch you know what I think a Sasquatch would know what's up but is that not why people get so obsessed with them because of this it's like
Starting point is 01:06:02 ghostly ghostly intelligence that's kind of implied that it's almost like you know what I mean like why so obsessed with the Lottness it's just the mysterious element isn't it that's it well this is the thing you can't with any of these things
Starting point is 01:06:18 you can't really say it's false but does it just begin with it's just like some bored guy just sat by a lock and he's like you know I'm just going to tell my friend that I just saw a giant fucking eel in it yeah yeah and it's just spirals from there like yeah some guy in America was like taking photos of the woods and he's like fuck me I've got shit all going on let's say I saw some great ape yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:06:47 we've just got like a hairy friend he's just like stand over there just walk over there and look at it. Yeah, just do like a... Yeah, I'll like blur it or whatever and like shake the cameras they take it. Ghosts are real. Lockness are real? Sasquatch is real. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:09 So in the like ranking you've got like the sassquatch. Well no, I'd say ghosts are at the top. Ghosts, saskwatch, Lochness. You put ghosts above them. But surely like the existence. of a giant eel thing is more realistic than a spirit ghost thing. I suppose you've had the
Starting point is 01:07:30 ghostly experience. Well yeah, that kind of pushes me in one direction. One I've had a personal experience with the other. Did you see that post that was like a theory, a possible explanation for it? A new one I hadn't seen. No. Someone was like, there have been
Starting point is 01:07:46 reports of like big cats like in the UK. this is this is something I've heard of really big cats yeah and apparently when they let off a certain like scream it sounds like weirdly similar to a human or something put yourself back in those shoes
Starting point is 01:08:07 that's the thing thinking about that moment it wasn't a scream from outside the building it was a scream through one door because the scream happened right as I was about to leave this door so it was in the bar area as you were leaving the bathroom yeah the sound was from the bar area I was in the bathroom
Starting point is 01:08:30 about to leave yeah that would mean that like a big cat would have to be so like in the vicinity it just wouldn't make sense yeah but the thing is that there's one window
Starting point is 01:08:45 in that bathroom that would have been behind me like to the back left so if it came from outside I feel like I'd be able to tell that it was back left right behind you yeah but it really sounded like in front of me and
Starting point is 01:09:02 do you trust your own memories interpretation of that scary moment though honestly it's impossible to say I'd have to get an Elon Musk brain chip and like watch the memory back
Starting point is 01:09:20 yeah and just relive the memory over and over yeah it was actually just like a squirrel full of nat of a tree yeah yeah or like a fox a horny fox foxes have horrible sounds
Starting point is 01:09:33 have you ever heard of fox sound yeah yeah it's quite quite striking yeah it's nasty yeah it is nasty let's do this one from
Starting point is 01:09:45 pill on face one we just have to address. Why is the normal episode being sold as an NFT? Um, hella cash, y'all.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Yeah, to be honest, it's simple. Let's say you had something so dear to you. Like, priceless. Yeah, straight up priceless, but then someone says, okay, I've got a price.
Starting point is 01:10:15 One mill. it doesn't matter what it is your salad yeah it's gone what celebrity do you think you could convince the buy the normal can you I feel like he's got easily like seven mill to spare
Starting point is 01:10:35 to just go and then the thing with art is that art isn't art until someone with money considers art Yeah, yeah So the art is convincing someone Someone with money
Starting point is 01:10:50 That your art is art So the real art Is getting Kanye in a room And convincing him to buy your art Yeah And the second he buys that art That art is priceless And then all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:11:04 You're an artist Yeah Then all of a sudden Everything we do is just You got the proof Yeah, it's just high art Yeah, you know Kanye bought my podcast right exactly
Starting point is 01:11:16 you realize Kanye bought my normal episode right and then suddenly you got you got JZ buying your Sampling the normal episode yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:11:28 that's a fucking valuable bit yeah so get tweeting at Kanye get him aware that this NFT is not yeah and we don't necessarily need Kanye You know, just anyone with this kind of riches. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:48 We'll even take a Richard Branson. Ed Shearing, would you take his money for the normal? You would deny it cheering. Even if he was like sent John Media an email. Listen, guys, this is like the actual Etcherin. Like normally like my agent does this, but just for this once. I just need, I need this material for sampling. I want to buy the NFT.
Starting point is 01:12:15 You see, for him... No, I'd make an exception. You're making an example. What about Drake? Drake? You know, I would sell it to Ryan Reynolds. That's interesting, but why? You would want that Ryan Reynolds to own the normal episode, and then be able to hold that over you.
Starting point is 01:12:41 But the condition would be that he is to make a film. adaptation of the where he plays me you should play everyone you should play everyone like normal yeah yes who directs it him no the guy that directed
Starting point is 01:12:59 joker Todd Phillips Ryan Reynolds Todd Phillips the normal featuring Ryan Reynolds yeah and then it makes like 10 billion bucks and it hits hard
Starting point is 01:13:14 than Joker the evolution of Joker he's elevated it to the next level yeah walking Phoenix shows up maybe Walking Phoenix
Starting point is 01:13:24 can play James actually I don't think there's another actor that could capture James better than walking Phoenix yeah yeah he's the only one
Starting point is 01:13:35 who could do it fuck HJ Day 10 has one which kind of brings us full circle to what we're talking about earlier. Hello, Jarr. I recently finished the TV show Mad Men and wondered whether any of you boys have watched it. After I finished Breaking Bad at the beginning of the year,
Starting point is 01:13:55 I didn't think any show could top it, but I think Mad Men just might edge it for me. Every character ending in Mad Men was perfect, and it has some of the best writing in any show I've ever seen. Do any of you have any experience with the show? Yeah. You've both seen it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:12 it's always for me in the thought process or conversation of like best shows ever yeah easily it's too unique yeah no show has been so like surface level you'd think it's the most dull idea for a show it's like how do you maintain it it's like seven seasons long
Starting point is 01:14:35 or something yeah seven seasons it's a long show and yeah in in in thinking about it It sounds dull. Yeah. Practice, God damn. And the actors and everything they got.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Yeah, because one thing that stands in my mind with, like, if you think about a lot of what are considered the best shows of all time, you're Breaking Bads, your Wires, your Sopranos, they all have an overt violence slash crime element. Man Man doesn't have that. No. It changed the game to me for what, like, any media can do like it's all it's all like really subtle human character drama yeah um
Starting point is 01:15:19 which is it's like an unusual pace to get used to if you are used to your breaking bads and your sopranos type shows yeah yeah but it's like rewarding a different way it never feels like soapy yeah yeah it's not like trying to get you in with the cliffhangers and it's like a slow build ultra satisfying payoff like when you get to the payoffs all those seasons later and it's also incredibly unpredictable for that reason too
Starting point is 01:15:47 yeah it's it's the second best show I've ever seen what's your one then the Seinfeld really you've actually damn you put it that high nice
Starting point is 01:16:03 yeah I'm not gonna go back on on what I said last episode fair fair respectable would you say would you recommend madmen do you think you have to be a certain like age a level of maturity because like I feel like
Starting point is 01:16:22 most people are going to enjoy breaking bad you know yeah yeah even then I found this with myself where like I'll watch a show And so much of it goes over my head. Like, I won't be the same with films, the same with music, the same video games, everything. But Mad Men in particular, I think if I'd watched that at like the age of 16, 18, I wouldn't have appreciated it.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Yeah, that's the kind of thought I have too. I think I just would have been too dumb. Yeah. It's easy to recognize that it's good. Yeah, yeah. But to really connect with. To actually, yeah, to connect and get invested in, like, the characters. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Without the, like, obvious, like, instant reward, like, cliffhanger type stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely recommend it, though. It's really fucking good. And there's a show being talked about at the moment that's on HBO called Succession. The people I keep hearing, like, comparing, saying,
Starting point is 01:17:38 like this could be building to be like that sort of level um there'd be meaning to check that out but that's like a still ongoing one like it's still only maybe a third of the way through or something i've not even heard of it yeah yeah i'll see if anyone comments about it but um i'm surprised that managed to have a resurgence in this episode the advertisement madman thing yeah that was like not planned at all like I just like I just like I just happen to come up naturally let's do two more here then
Starting point is 01:18:16 but we wrap up Uncle Tony 55 says a few weeks ago you boys were talking about the epic battle you witnessed between a wasp and a quote daddy long legs unquote since then I've noticed several recommended videos and ads on my phone offering to explain the difference between
Starting point is 01:18:34 Mayflies and daddy long legs how do you feel about our phones always listening to everything we do this is something that is just so blatant uh-huh yeah kind of feeds back into this ad thing we're saying about yeah yeah nobody nobody cares though including me like it so a family friend I I was with my parents and a family friend and they were talking about commodes yeah
Starting point is 01:19:10 um and then suddenly I on Instagram I start getting adverts for like commodes and shit I feel like Instagram is the one I noticed the most overtly yeah
Starting point is 01:19:25 it's always like recent conversation stuff and it's just like what yeah seems like really weird I guess you're all like you're like agreeing to it in the terms and conditions if you want you're always under the impression that when when you're not recording something or not specifically asked before you start doing something that that it's not being recorded your camera isn't being used the microphone isn't being used
Starting point is 01:19:59 but that clearly is not the case because there's no reason I would be advertised commodes Yeah Yeah why would it randomly suggest that it's so specific to Yeah that was the one that was like There's no doubt in my mind That Instagram is listening to what I have to say
Starting point is 01:20:19 Well it's it's like the Facebook products It's their whole business model It's just like gathering information on you And selling it to ad companies This is the scariest thing because they've been under a lot of scrutiny recently from the
Starting point is 01:20:35 government in America but they don't know what questions to ask because it's so embarrassing. Yeah I saw a recent one and they asked the most stupid questions they're like so what actually is a server
Starting point is 01:20:51 yeah they're like that level so they're they asked there's a term for when someone makes a different like Instagram account
Starting point is 01:21:05 that's private and they only have their friends on it and then they have a separate account for just the public and they were asked about this phenomenon and they were like
Starting point is 01:21:20 are you going to ban this and they were like who what do you mean this isn't these people do not understand what like happens on the internet yeah so the actual problems the actual dangerous shit
Starting point is 01:21:43 like I do genuinely think this is a problem oh yeah yeah yeah listening to everything you have to say and shit and advertising this weird stuff yeah like um do you know any of the details on the late Edward Snowden
Starting point is 01:21:59 No, I don't And that was like the US government doing it Let alone like I guess private companies Yeah, yeah No, that's the thing though Because when it's private companies People don't really care Yeah, I guess it depends on the issue at hand
Starting point is 01:22:19 Like people don't care I guess when it's like ads yeah and to a degree I I agree but also there's something
Starting point is 01:22:32 that just feels wrong about it yeah there is like a gut reaction where it's like where is this line in terms of like at what point does it start being like because there are people
Starting point is 01:22:47 that share like their whole lives on social media and really they are gathering all of that information and like you can build like super detailed profiles and stuff on people based on that kind of stuff so it should always be on your mind
Starting point is 01:23:04 I guess and I guess a lot of people don't think about it when they're just posting the thing is it anti-vax memes on Facebook it can't always be on your mind because they're listening to what you're saying
Starting point is 01:23:18 if you have the app open in the background and you're talking it's picking shit up like it has to be that's how it happened to me yeah yeah we'll agree into it in these terms yeah but i mean you prefer to just be able to use instagram honestly thinking about it i could easily go without instagram yeah like that it was a couple weeks ago now where all the Facebook products went down or something yeah yeah 24 hours or a bit less or I just think to myself
Starting point is 01:23:58 man it would be nice if like they were like sabotaged somehow and that was it for them yeah but all the Facebook products done apparently like the the Facebook headquarters like their doors and stuff all linked to that infrastructure
Starting point is 01:24:13 to like get the doors so they can get out into the building you had to like use your Facebook ID or some shit. So they can get... There's no like backup. They can get in or out of the building, apparently. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:24:27 That just sounds like a terrible idea, but... Yeah. I guess that would be in line with Facebook's whole thing. Let's end on this one then from Scoom. All right, Jha. You mentioned watching several seasons of Kirby enthusiasm in the last episode, but did you make it to series seven? They bring back the entire...
Starting point is 01:24:49 cast of Seinfeld to make a reunion episode which is an on off plot for the whole season sounds funny I saw a clip from this oh really yeah because I've been going back into the
Starting point is 01:25:07 profile thing I've been watching so much Seinfeld on Netflix YouTube is recommending all this Seinfeld stuff oh really? Yeah how does it know searching Seinfeld clips sort of something of shit. No, it's because
Starting point is 01:25:21 I guess on Google Chrome, I've been watching Seinfeld on Netflix. Google is owned by, or YouTube is owned by Google. Is that really how deep it goes? Why else would I be recommended Seinfeld stuff? Because I thought
Starting point is 01:25:37 I'm on YouTube or any recommended shit based on, like, what you're watching on YouTube. But I don't I don't know. I can't keep up. I haven't searched any Seinfeld shit. Yeah, but yeah, I saw a clip where, like, the bit was, is it Larry David? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Larry David wanted in this Seinfeld shoot to replace George Costanza and play George Costanza. Oh, I think I might have actually seen that clip. Because that's ringing a bell. Yeah, and he's like fucking awful. Yeah. Yeah, it looked funny. but I haven't seen any curb your enthusiasm Because from
Starting point is 01:26:21 Some of the seasons I've seen a bit I remember like The George Costanza actor Like showing up a couple times Or something having like cameos And stuff But him like playing an actor in it type thing Yeah
Starting point is 01:26:35 Yeah But yeah that sounds like a funny idea for a season And again access If I had HBO Max I'd probably watch it Yeah like Europe has access to HBO Max now or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Not in the UK because of their deal with Sky or whatever, so. Fuck Sky. Yeah, fuck Sky. I don't want to give them money. Rupert Murdoch or whatever. Rupert Murdoch? Yeah, doesn't he owns Sky? Who's Rupert Murdoch?
Starting point is 01:27:10 He's that guy who owns like all the all the worst papers. He's like the media conglomerate. yeah man yeah brother that was episode 101 101
Starting point is 01:27:27 101 times 2 plus 50 odd minus a couple 0.9 of it see everyone Thank you.

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