JAR Media Posdact - JAR Media 2020 Recap - Corncast 23

Episode Date: January 5, 2021

The JAR mingers talk about some of the good (and a couple bad...) bits of media from 2020. https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter....com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 04:21 Movies 23:28 TV 40:29 Mid Break + Patron Names 48:40 Music 1:10:16 Games PO Box: IHE PO Box 4268 CALNE SN11 7AY

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Can someone clap on If I count down from three Just have some kind of sink point Ruben can clap Fine, I'll clap I'll fucking clap So three, two, one clap, yeah? Yeah
Starting point is 00:00:19 Three, two, one How did you do it? Yeah, it was a pretty weak clap I think your mic filtered it I heard another clap as well I did it. Oh, I... That was me.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Did you do? Did you do one? No, I heard a clap. Yeah, that was me clapping. Yeah, it was a bit of a weak clap. I sort of... I sort of hit the ball. Also, maybe if I...
Starting point is 00:00:46 Oh, fuck it, it'll be fine this time. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm ready. Three, two, one. Fucking garbage clap. garbage cloud. Why is this so quiet? I'm getting green surford. Look, I'll tell you what, look, here you go.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Gonna fucking bust this shit wide open. I mean, automatically, minus 100 dB, automatically determine input sensitivity. See that? There you go. Yeah, that sounds like a good one. Okay. Three, two, one. It better not be fucking filtering this bullshit out. But I'm sure I'll manage, but it's probably just making it way harder.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's absolutely fucking ridiculous. I've got to, this mic interface is fucking up, man. I can't even do anything with it. Good afternoon, morning, evening on night, ladies and gents. And welcome to Corn Curse 23. I'm your host, Alex, joined as always by Dingle. Who the fuck is that? I just wanted to see you.
Starting point is 00:01:55 For real. Ruben came there, Ruben spoke, Ruben's dingle. I don't want to be Dingle. I don't want to be Dingle. We got the dad from inside out, James. Good afternoon, morning, evening and the night. And last but not least, audio jungle gym. Yeah, well, sir, today I'm, I'm feeling kind of, uh, I'm feeling kind of wild. Oh, it's back.
Starting point is 00:02:24 2021's a new year. A new East. The year of the riled. Year of the riled. Yeah, year the riled. I'm feeling pretty riled. Yeah, I am too, actually.
Starting point is 00:02:40 To such a degree where I feel like this episode needs to be something fresh, something different than we haven't done before. Instead of, you know, some kind of structure, well, it's still a structure, but a different one. Seeing as 2020 is over now, we're into a new year, we thought we'd commit this episode to kind of rounding off our 2020s and notable stuff
Starting point is 00:03:02 be it you know movies music podcast whatever we want to mention um you know just talk about that be chill we'll save the reddit questions that were for this episode's thread for a double Reddit like episode next time so do not fear if you had like a question you wanted answered but so yeah this uh i don't know how we're going to organize this yeah actually shout out to the gymeedia redid because they've been they've been on point again um making the the banner this time is like just copied from the our gaming banner it's like just the same picture like saved and i haven't seen this i could have to look at it now for fuck sake yeah and the uh and the rules are currently the the kind of gamer rules from the intro of last
Starting point is 00:03:53 Oh my god. Is it gonna make me cring? Mm-hmm. For me the rules are still, I'm a big dog, big bear. Oh really? When I was looking at it earlier, I swear it's something else. Yeah, Jiamedia rules, number one, I'm more than just some geek. Number two, I rescued the princess and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Oh my god, that's... Okay, whoa. I'll look on mobile, maybe it's different. God knows. So I wanted to start with... with, I figure we should start with movies. I think it's probably the ones we have least of. I went to cinema once in 2020,
Starting point is 00:04:31 which was to see Tenet. I risked my life for fucking Tenet. I think Jim came with me too. You think? Yeah, you did, right? It's been a long year, right? It's been a long year, right? You are right.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah, right as I was starting to get into going to the a bit more as well this kind of comes around so it's been kind of fucked but yeah um so how should we do this should we sort of go around robin and uh just take turns with a just throw something out there and see what happens i'll lead us off with probably my favorite thing i've seen in 2020 which is the fucking pepe the frog documentary feels good man um it's a it's a meme movie you'd like it Jim being the fucking meme chat master or whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's genuinely a really interesting
Starting point is 00:05:27 documentary about the whole like the 4chan stuff like side and like an artist creating something innocent and then it being adopted into this like symbol of hatred and just and the like the reclaiming of it too. I'd recommend that to everyone.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And someone else want to throw one out there? Just to break it up a bit? Rubin, give me something. What did I? watch. Let me just refer to the good list. I watched the Sonic movie. Doesn't have to be good. Yeah, there you go. That was all right. It was ages ago now. It was actually, it was pre-COVID that I watched it. But it was this year. Well, not pre-COVID. It was pre-lockdown that I watched it. But it was this. No, it was 2020. We're not even in 2020. It was
Starting point is 00:06:13 2020. And I was just like, yeah, man, you know, for a fucking kids by animated film that is a video game adaptation. So already it's like it has the potential to be. utter garbage into both it's like things it's coming from I was sort of came away from like yeah that was actually quite there was some jokes that were funny and some of
Starting point is 00:06:34 the set piece sequences are really impressive in terms of VFX work it was more true to Sonic you know yeah for me I was more intrigued by the potential of what the sequel is because I want to see like proper Jim Carrey
Starting point is 00:06:50 Eggman and the whole like this is a cringy sonic crew ensemble so that's like teased at the end isn't it spoilers but yeah I'm very curious about what he's going to do
Starting point is 00:07:04 I mean he was he was the one making most of the said jokes was I was something about spitting out I was spitting out formulas before you were spilling out formula here's some weird joke about breastfeeding yeah he had some of right lines actually what do you think of Sonic's voice
Starting point is 00:07:19 that's right whatever you know Would you have preferred just so the Etsio guy to actually just do it? Probably not. I think maybe there's, there are two Sonics. It's a tale of two Sonics now. And one can inform the other. One can inform the other, but I don't think, I think I sort of, I'm okay with it being a, they're being a cinematic Sonic voice actor and a video game.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It's just weird, because the guy who voices him, is he like a big appeal? Maybe he's in like Parks and Rec, I think. Maybe in America he's got a big appeal, I don't know. He did a fine job as Sonic, I guess. Yeah, I think it was okay. It was ages ago now, though, so... But then while it was only one of three films I watched, so, you know, I guess it has stayed in memory based on that.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Jim, throw one out there. A movie. This isn't a 2020 movie. Actually, one of them is, I guess. I watched both Borat. oh yeah what did you think one of them is a 2020 movie yeah yeah i just realized um bore up one very funny like obviously like it's a movie where you know all the jokes already because like it's so deep in pop culture yeah the sequel like surprisingly good and yeah the commentary really
Starting point is 00:08:47 interesting stuff they show and yeah like it needed the COVID situation to happen. Like, it was just so, it seemed like everything was lining up for that character to come back and, you know, just with the election and COVID, the political climate was absolutely nuts. We're still nuts. Yeah. So it was perfect timing. Yeah, and like, clearly it's managed with the sequel to, like, achieve the same thing as the first one
Starting point is 00:09:15 in terms of pop culture, like, notoriety. Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen the first one, but I do. remember it being funnier yeah yeah i do i think it's it's better and funnier yeah it's been so long i'll have to revisit that at some point yeah i definitely recommend it yeah i liked the what was the second one called again so i had some like ridiculously long title which was part of the joke yeah it's called like subsequent movie film or something that's right good name funny name very me me me Um, as far as movies from 2020, I want to shout out that are really, really good that I'd worth checking out. Uh, Sound of Metal, um, with Rees Ahmed is when I saw a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I actually want to watch that film. See, one of the only films over and like, yeah, I want to watch that about. Yeah, it's, uh, it's just a really good drama about someone losing their hearing. And, you know, he's in America, so getting any sort of surgery on his ears is, is, You know, a huge task and everything, and I won't say anything more. It's one of those movies I'd just recommend watching. The Riz Ahmed, I think, is just a great performer in anything he's in. So that's a big shout out from me on that one.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I think it's coming out on Amazon soon, so on Prime, so anyone can check that out. James, I know you didn't see too many movies this year, but is there anything you want to throw out there in terms of... Yes, I haven't watched. any movies of this year of all like the the medias I find movies the most difficult to watch but I made effort to watch free
Starting point is 00:10:59 movies all of which two of them are unbelievably famous and the third is pretty old so I watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid you know really old Oh yeah cool One of like the the famous westerns and it's I fucking love it
Starting point is 00:11:15 It's so fucking good It's so there's so much style to it and it's slow but in that old kind of Western way it's still got there's so much there and it's a great atmosphere in a mood yeah it's also got it's also got very great soundtrack
Starting point is 00:11:31 so I would I would recommend that to anyone who actually does like Western stuff there's a lot of influence of things like Red Dead to Butch Cassidy so it's definitely worth of watch if you can see it and the other two I have mentioned before is
Starting point is 00:11:46 the Godfather Part 1 and full metal jacket I don't even know what to say about me. Yeah. Because I think I might have watched that this year too, actually. You'd just trigger your memory, because I hadn't seen that one before. Yeah, that's an excellent movie. It's the first time I've actually ever watched a Vietnam-era movie.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You know, for being someone. You always reference it all the time. I was at, like, I was presumed you just watched all of them. That was about it. I was like, yeah, James's movies, Vietnam. He's watched those. That's the first one I had seen. and it's generally difficult to actually talk about that movie
Starting point is 00:12:23 it's just so fucking good the same with the godfather they're both just yeah most things you could say have been said by millions of people for years they're both incredible experiences and just watch them just watch them they're long especially the godfather
Starting point is 00:12:42 I watched the godfather this year actually I've watched the whole trilogy I just watched the first one Have you ever seen three? I was always told not to bother Yeah, don't They just released like a tweaked version I wouldn't say it's like a ruin case scenario
Starting point is 00:13:02 Because those first two are just You know, they're basically perfect And you can easily ignore the third It would be different if the second one was like The shit one or something But Yeah No, the Godfather one and two of course
Starting point is 00:13:14 Classics Seeing as you brought a Butch Cassidy I might as well throw out good the bad and ugly should somehow never seen before but I mean yeah it's it's awesome when one of those types of movies is like it's the same of like 2001 and all those kind of movies when you throw them on and you just see immediately why they are embedded into pop culture in the way they are so many great fucking scenes and the music and again with the you know the all the red dead stuff and I just love western so much and that's the quintessential one really so big props to that one you've liked that
Starting point is 00:13:55 don't you jim yeah yeah it's one of my favorite films of all time because we actually checked out uh not fuck i've been drinking white russians so my memory's eluding me but the the uh the fuck do you remember what was called jim the other sociolian um yeah this is pissing me off actually once upon a time in the west yeah yeah yeah because i kept wanting to say a million ways a in the West. Don't talk about that. That one is really good as well. Totally different movie.
Starting point is 00:14:24 What did you think of that one, Jim, compared to good the bad? Yeah, just an awesome film. The thing I love about Sergio's westerns is you get that real sense of grime. Like, as much as it's badass and you sort of want to be the main character and stuff,
Starting point is 00:14:46 you just don't want to live in that time. Like, everyone is. filthy you can almost smell the movies and there's just like yeah like hordes of people just going around in groups just pillaging and stealing and it's a horrible time really yeah horrible what's cool about that one is i think it was actually shot in america as opposed to in europe yeah that's right they had that scenery yeah you know that you'd expect to see and that movie more so than any of the others i've seen um sort of delves into the the actual grimier themes of that time yeah it's yeah it's very complex in that way um because you i don't know with some of the
Starting point is 00:15:24 some older films like especially the more like john wayne type westerns where it's like very very simple sort of you know goodies and badies type shit the sergio leone ones have way more going on in terms of that sort of stuff there's one actually there's one john wayne film um the searches where his character is just an open like outward racist and that I think there is some discussion around the director, whose name is escaping me, sort of framed his character that way on purpose. Because it's like, yeah, John Wayne's a racist.
Starting point is 00:15:59 The guy is a racist, so his character's racist, and you're going to see him be a racist. Damn. The searches. It's one of those ones they made us watch in our course. It's like, we're going to watch a Western, and it's like, but it's not one of the fun ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I've got two more. movies to shout out um the extended version of midsummer i saw earlier in the year really fucking good adds a lot of context that was missed from the original cut um it does make it a bit longer but if it's good shit i don't mind i that's one i would recommend is anyone else here seeing midsummer i know it's way too scary for you james you hate horror movie shit but i've seen the normal normal midsummer yeah do you like midsummer yeah midsummer's awesome. I do think hereditary is better, but yeah, they're both just awesome films. And my final one is Tokyo Story. I only watched it because Ralph the movie maker
Starting point is 00:17:01 recommended it on Sard on a Cust, but it's one that's really stuck with me. And I think I think you'd like it, James. Just seeing Tokyo in the 50s is really interesting. And it's got all these like parental and kid expectation stuff going on, it is worth going back and watching that one, you know, even though, you know, sometimes older films can, it feels like more of a slog sometimes. Just the concept of it, just everything was so different, but that's one that is timeless, so.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Sounds good. Jimmy, you got any others to throw out there? um yeah i i want to bring up parasite because i watched that just a month or two ago yeah i think that was released in january of 2020s in the uk or something so
Starting point is 00:17:55 yeah so it might count but um oh fuck it that counts i find like in the especially post covid um like film watching the majority of it is going to be like on Netflix or something
Starting point is 00:18:13 not in the cinema so for a movie to like grab your attention and hold it and you don't like have to look at your phone once because it's engaging you 100% of its runtime I think it's quite an impressive thing and that movie like
Starting point is 00:18:31 I sat down and could not stop watching it man it only gets better yeah the more times you see it too I think I've seen it two or three times now, and yeah, it's pretty impeccable. Yeah, have you seen it, Rubin? I started watching, I go an hour in, and I just paused it and didn't go back, because it just happens. I might, I mean, I was thinking I might watch some more. I might catch up now at the start of the year.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yeah, I think it's like a perfect movie. I can't think of a single flaw in that movie. Yeah, the dynamic of that main family. it's like so interesting yeah and the way you you don't root for the characters but at the same time you do like you know what they're doing is wrong they're like a victim of circumstance yeah you totally understand the choices they make up until the last few and they're really like clever yeah and intuitive and what they do is and just the the multiple ways the title comes into play as well it is so yeah that was the main thing because for the first half i really didn't
Starting point is 00:19:38 understand what it meant by parasite and then it all starts coming together when it all clicks yeah yeah because i i always i just thought because he did that movie the host which is about like a monster thing coming out of the ocean yeah yeah i've only seen that once a very long time ago but just seeing the the title parasite i thought it was going to be more you know about like a monster movie or something like that's what i assume it's on the very get-go yeah yeah i think it's as more was said about it i realized like oh right it's like a social commentary thriller. Not at all what I thought.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Anyone have any other movies to throw out there? Hubey Halloween. Hubey Halloween was a delight. I thoroughly enjoyed watching that film. Yeah, I had genuine. It was so brisk. It didn't have time to be annoying.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And it was like Adam Sandler, but in like a cute way, not in an obnoxious. I'm just paying for a holiday for the boys' way. Mm-hmm. so I appreciate I actually quite enjoyed it actually quite enjoyed it and the Kissing Booth 2 which genuinely is genuinely is one of the
Starting point is 00:20:46 worst films I've ever seen like in the realistic fans not like amazing bulk realm in the realm of like normal movies Kissing Booth 1 and 2 is that another Adam Sandler film no no it's a Netflix original but it has like some of just the worst
Starting point is 00:21:04 like social or sociopolitical shit going on it's it's so horrible i was going to say it's politics but it's not political it's just like sexist and fucking horrid the whole way and it but it's it's sexist in that way like where it's really sad and cynical i'm going to stop talking about the moment but um this is how girls behave do you understand that girls it's it's like really appealing to a ticot generation and it makes me sound old as shit but it is uh because i kept saying this movie's just like a string of TikTok jokes like stuck together
Starting point is 00:21:39 it's just like all like Instagram comedy just strung together sorry oh no especially the first one which is really guilty of it the second one's a bit more of a film but yeah it just it's horrible in what it's promoting so watch it yeah as far as awful shit
Starting point is 00:21:55 probably the worst thing I saw so far um from 2020 is Artemis foul I remember like reading the book as a kid and being quite into it and it's like a creative fantasy world but um god it's the fucking uh trying to remember the director's name that british guy who's in um dunkirk um oh hang on that kenneth branner yeah yeah yeah yeah uh like such a sleepy job with like the some of the worst special effects stuff i've seen
Starting point is 00:22:33 in a while for like a project of that scale and size because it's like a given with Disney shit at this point. Like, you have all the fucking money in the world at least to make your movies look good. Make it look worth it. We've seen examples of their pretty great effects, even in just like TV shows, for example, The Mandalorian. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that will come out very soon.
Starting point is 00:22:55 The only thing I want to say is I nearly noted Artemis Fowl, even though I hadn't seen it just because I was like, we could talk about it because it was just so, like, famous notoriously bad. Did you see the memes of, like, Like the Olaf from Frozen, like eating, you can like stretch his mouth out. It's like a dwarf, dwarves in that universe, can't like eat dirt and, like, dig like moles or some shit. I did not see that. It's kind of a blur.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It's fucking horrible, though. It was being mean pretty hard. Sounds terrible. I'm going to lead us off for TV because it's the, on my list, the first thing I wrote down was just Mandalorian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, some mine too. Is it on yours, Jim?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yep. Yeah, speaking of the Western stuff, like, I love the Western influence on it. Because I don't want to sound like that meme where you're an enjoyer or a fan. I'm a Mandalorian. I don't know where I stand with it, you know, because it is pretty fucking ridiculous in places where it's like, this is just fan service, but I'm really enjoying this bollocks. There is a way to do fan service in a way that doesn't feel condescending. Episode 9 feels condescending, like, fan service. I'm trying to remember.
Starting point is 00:24:13 It's more loving in Mando. Oh, you mean, I think you meant the ninth episode of Mando. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry, I meant, um, the fuck's a cool, Rise of Skywalker, you know, and Woody, uh, Woody, fucking Chewy's getting his, like, medal and shit at the end. It's like, fuck, fuck you. What the hell has that got to do with this story, god damn it? I've, um, I only watched half of that film. And then I've just vowed to not finish it.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Oh, so you haven't even seen the medal scene. I just thought it was really bad. Yep, yep. But yeah, there's people are pretty happy with Mando. Like, Stiles fans seem to be coming around on the idea. I don't know where it's going to... Because you finished it very recently, didn't you, Rupin? Yeah, I finished it only like four days ago, five days ago.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, but do you agree that it feels quite conclusive? And I'm not really sure how they're going to continue. yeah no i i i don't have any idea what they're going to do with that show i not because they have to yeah i don't you can't obviously i don't really want to spoil it or anything it's just yeah it's just like yeah i don't need to spoil anything but yeah but um on the jar video jim and i put out for that um we said we almost liked that that concept more it's like well no now no matter what there's just these this cool story in two seasons that can't be ruined in the same way.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah, instead of it being five seasons, and they're just constantly adding more roadblocks or something between one thing and another, or just like filler episodes for, yeah, I can't really spoil it, so. Yeah, yeah, don't bother.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah, if you want a full thing on that, there's the, as good as they say, we put out a week ago, so. If we're on Star Wars, though, I got to whip out clone wars that's the 2020 thing for me I don't put it back
Starting point is 00:26:08 whip it back away whip it away it all began with it's Wikipedia's fault and it's I started by reading the Wotto Wiki and it just
Starting point is 00:26:20 didn't stop from there it opened the floodgates the toyed it went from the Wato Wiki to the Toyderian Wiki to the Mandilor wiki to the Count Duk Wiki, like it just, and then from, like, I just had to go into the Clone Wars once it was being integrated into Mandalorian. And it, yeah, I do enjoy it. There's, yeah, has some cringe shit in
Starting point is 00:26:44 there, but I'm pretty sure the last season was released in 2020, maybe early 2020 or something, so. Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. So I think that actually counts. And that's another thing. Order 66 and all that shit, I just like the way that's being used in the extent. expanded stuff at the moment. It's way better than in the actual film. There's way more shit going on. Like actual story beats you'd expect with the emotional kind of payoff that isn't in the film proper. James, do you have any TV you want to throw out there?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yes, TV-wise. I watched a documentary, a Netflix documentary about the five families of New York called Fear the City, really high production value, great interviews of ex-mob people and it's all about how the FBI actually took down the mob and it's really fucking interesting on how they basically bugged
Starting point is 00:27:42 and tried to get the bosses. Really high production I would really recommend watching it. You were giving me these great segues because sorry to interrupt you but probably my number one 2020 thing is the Sopranos.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You always hear about how it's like one of the best shows ever and ever since watching it i can't stop thinking about that show talking about that red dead like gta influence and like going back from there holy fuck did it inspire like red dead and you know this idea of like a a gang kind of out of time that is like slowly being torn apart because it just can't really work in modern society anymore and all this kind of shit and that with the therapy stuff and gta 5 and it's so fucking good I'd recommend everyone watch Sopranes at some point, but if you want to jump back, James, they kind of stole the mic away. No, but I've recommended this documentary because it is just really fascinating, and it's three episodes, like 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:28:44 It's just worth to quickly watch. But I didn't know that was a thing, I'm going to have to watch this. But it's actually, like, done, like, a proper thing. It's not like one of those really cheap documentaries where they're, like, recreating scenes of, like, cheap actors. it's just all actual footage and like interviews with actual like mob people. It's just so good
Starting point is 00:29:06 I don't even know how to talk about it. It's just a really good documentary. Is that what you're saying about the other week? Because I assumed it was like a YouTube video or something you're talking about. It's like a Netflix show. It's a proper Netflix directed documentary and it's absolutely incredible. And that documentary sparked a lot of what I've watched which I will get into
Starting point is 00:29:26 just because of mob stuff. I'm like I've gone into a real big mob phase like after I watched that I did The Godfather and then I watched these two YouTubers and I will mention shortly but other than that I'm going to include this in TV because it is TV with coinciding with the cyberpunk release
Starting point is 00:29:45 I went back and watched Ghost in the Shell standalone Complex and it is without a doubt the best anime series ever everything about it is like 10 out of 10 quality wise. There's no drop.
Starting point is 00:30:01 We know his favorite anime. Finally. Do you think I'd like it? It's hard to say, I think, because it's just, I, there's a lot of things you don't like about anime. So it's hard to say because I've just
Starting point is 00:30:16 watched so much of it. But this is the best because there's a a plot that goes through the 26 episodes. There's no filler episodes. Every like episode that doesn't focus on the main story like goes into a different part of the world
Starting point is 00:30:30 it's so good like I've saved the soundtrack on Spotify that's how like it's got a proper soundtrack what anime series has an actual developed soundtrack like that's how fucking good that show is how's the animation this is
Starting point is 00:30:47 this came out let me just check I just want to check when it actually was it 90s or the standalone complex which is the TV series 2000s. It came out in 2002, and the early 2000s era was the ugliest animation style ever.
Starting point is 00:31:08 You know that anime style with huge eyes, tiny mouths. That's the 2000s. But the animation in Standard & Complex is fucking incredible by today's standards. Like the CG stuff is well implemented, and the hand-drawn stuff is incredible. The sound design, everything. about it is incredible. I can't praise this show enough. It's fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's basically all the TV I've watched. See, I think that's like one of the first times I've heard you speak about anime, really passionately and eloquently about it just being like, yeah, I ironically love it. Like, it's shit, and I love it. You're actually like, yeah, this is great, and everyone should watch it.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Not like, um, fucking even Jelian. Well, I don't even know if you like it. I still don't know if you like it. See, the thing of you've been to. It's just like I've kind of four chan has made me like it Like I don't actually like it But it's just like I've been me I've memed it so much where it's just like I now like it's like it's like the prequels You know, you just like it
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah, it is like considered the anime though isn't it this one I need to rewatch I think I was too young when I watched it the first time It's like ghost in the shell to evangelian like evangelian's not fun to watch Like you might get this deep meaning, but there's no fucking enjoyment. There's no, there's no reason to watch it. But Ghost and Shell... Well, I remember the cricket sound effects. Yeah, like that constantly...
Starting point is 00:32:37 The Scades or whatever. Ghost and the Shell doesn't have that, because it knows, it knows what it's trying to do. So it doesn't leave you hanging on bullshit for fucking episodes. Because once they've got this idea and they've used it up, they give you this whole, this whole, an episode that's completely different that explores something else. And the fucking dibbies in Ghost and the Shell actually, fucking explore the best thing about Ghost in the Shell. The whole meaning of Ghost in the Shell is explored through fucking dibbies.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Like having a show where there's these high-pitched fucking dibbys that aren't just fucking comedic like a comedic excuse. They're actually vital to the story and the world. That's saying a lot about a fucking anime. Where can you watch that?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Is it on Crunchyroll? It's on Funimation. Another fucking anime. anime streaming site. God damn it. But I have the account, obviously, but it's taking all of the best things from the movie and making it
Starting point is 00:33:37 into a very, very enjoyable TV series. Because the movie is great, you know, the animation is great, the music's great, the atmosphere is great, but there's no content. There's no actual, like, story. So if you put all of that into a really high budget TV series, you actually get something really
Starting point is 00:33:53 fucking good. You've just triggered a memory. We had the VHS. of the film my dad just got it I guess he just thought maybe the maybe the boys are like this and I was like seven so I didn't really get it we didn't ever finish it because we didn't understand it and and the subtitles and shit just immediately as a seven-year-old I was like no I'm not doing this we had it I fuck knows where that is now but you just I hadn't thought about that in quite a long time that's weird that movie is great I will say is a very pretty movie
Starting point is 00:34:28 but it's like not far as I made the fucked up mistake of watching the Scarlet Johansom one first yeah so then I watched the original after and like I was just so done with the whole thing so that's another one I need to revisit with fresh eyes like if
Starting point is 00:34:44 you know cyberpunk's just come out loads of people are probably disappointed with it and if you want a cyberpunk fix there's nothing better than standalone complex that's that's that's what I'll end is on it is just it is uh when you think of anime it should be one of the ones you think about because it's that good okay um jim do you have any um i've only got one of the tv show and it's uh mr robot
Starting point is 00:35:10 fuck yeah yeah i haven't finished it i'm like two episodes into season three but okay nice nice you enjoy it's christ it might be it's getting up there in my favorite like streaming service TV shows of all time yeah I'm I've seen the first three seasons three times and the fourth season two times I haven't really rewatch that many shows that aren't comedies yeah it is one of those I I see yeah what if you get through season one and aren't hooked I'd be surprised you know yeah I I totally see how it is rewatchable as well because is it
Starting point is 00:35:57 spoilers to say that something has twists in it but it does you know yeah I just don't obviously spoil
Starting point is 00:36:03 yeah but yeah it's been a while since a show has had me like this hooked and it's nice and fairly short too
Starting point is 00:36:14 it's only four seasons yeah another thing I really appreciate 10 to 12 13 episodes a season so yeah it's really manageable knowing that the end
Starting point is 00:36:22 is in sight with a TV show is like quite really and it's a really good ending too it's not like a disappointing like lost style yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:36:33 cool I can't wait to talk to you about the where it goes but you go you should have another one gym with the boys oh yeah of course yeah yeah have you seen the boys Rubin yeah I watch the boys
Starting point is 00:36:49 oh what do you think I thought it was really good I'd watch season one sort of shortly after that came out so I was anticipating season two I was just waiting for it to I waited till it all came out and just watched it across like two days, three days
Starting point is 00:37:05 yeah I wish I'd done that and it was I thoroughly enjoyed watching it that way I prefer it with that sort of I guess more comparable to watching a film experience yeah I really like what the boys is about I like it's sort of
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Starting point is 00:37:36 he's absolutely fucking awful but then at times you're kind of like well then again can I like what Homeland is doing here yeah because it is the like absolute power corrupts absolutely thing
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Starting point is 00:38:05 I would like to say if you do want to hear our opinions on the boys season two there is a video that you can watch to check that up. Yeah thanks James don't do that Go watch IGN's opinion or something.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And there should be another one Jim and Reuben as well with Jimmy McGill better cool soul was that this year last year yeah I think it was April oh yeah that sounds right
Starting point is 00:38:32 holy shit yeah no I'm almost off the mind that I think better cool I like it more than breaking bad I think maybe now yeah I don't know it is different yeah the characters
Starting point is 00:38:47 are yeah it's more kind of subtle in the way it's you know it's less poppy That's what I was saying. My thing about it was it's not as bombastic as like water being like, Jesse, we have to go and steal a nuke. It's still like that.
Starting point is 00:39:01 It's like, Kim, I've got a problem. I'm going to talk about it. Then I might do something weird. Well, yeah, that's the best thing about the show to me is his relationship with Kim. And like, we don't know how the show ends yet. So presumably something happens just based on how he shows up and breaking bad. So what the fuck is going to happen in that last season? season there's one more right yeah there's one more but they've hit like production
Starting point is 00:39:27 device so we're probably not going to see it for still like another maybe 18 months to years something as long as it's good i mean like i can wait yeah you know heartly anticipating that yeah crazy fucking good um i have a couple more but to be honest i'll shout out bojack horseman um it ended again early this year um um very fitting end for that show but the memory is so vague because it was the beginning of the year and I've seen so much shit in between
Starting point is 00:40:01 I can't speak about it in that much detail so anyone else have any other TV stuff before we go to the mid-break? No one, let me check the list nope yeah the only other one I had written down
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Starting point is 00:48:36 I'm I've been doing some thinking and you know when you put a meat in some I'm a marinade. Oh, imagine it. Jamie, can you please stop doing that?
Starting point is 00:48:51 How much, how many how many cheeseburgers does it cost for you? Just never do that again. I will buy you a cheeseburger every week if you never do that ever again. Doesn't matter what cheeseburger it is. Just never do it ever again. Yeah, but I really like doing it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:08 What do you like doing, Jim? Don't. Don't do it. Don't do it. No. I hate both of you. So imagine a Pepsi and like chewing gum. You know if you drops like chewing gum in an empty can of Pepsi or Coke.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Like I used to do that. So imagine that, right? But it's like a marinade for meat. You know, you marinate, you put some chicken in it. And you marinate that chicken in Pepsi chewing gum water. More like a marinade for feet, if you know what I'm saying. Let's get into it. James, do you want to introduce her the second half then?
Starting point is 00:49:50 We're going to start with music, sir. Okay. Where does that go from? Just to do that. It comes from nowhere. Oh. Oh. I'll say that, James.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Jamie, I'll say it, and I'll say it on the cast. Damn. I mean 100% dark chocolate, can me a second. oh what do you think it's it's just like eating powder and it's sand yeah it's fucking horrible isn't it no I love it's nasty oh really yeah so you're anti-annikin you love sand you love fucking lepkukin stars which I still have left over from Christmas okay give me a second buddy okay good afternoon good morning good evening or maybe good night this is the second half of this
Starting point is 00:50:45 show where we will continue with our wound up and let's uh let's kick it off with uh music so uh alex what have you got noted down um song machine gorillas yes uh has to be mentioned um humans wasn't for everyone was not really the comeback project everyone kind of wished for sorry i'd argue um humans isn't for anyone yeah I ironically it's called humans as well
Starting point is 00:51:17 and yeah it's for not a alien humans yeah yeah it's it's
Starting point is 00:51:22 it's it's aged by some of the like lyrical stuff too there's so many like references
Starting point is 00:51:29 to Trump and shit and it's like certain years are just so guilty of like yeah if you reference
Starting point is 00:51:35 that year in your media you've aged your thing certain years so much worse than others
Starting point is 00:51:40 in 2017 is a bad year to be referencing. Yeah. Yeah, because of course, like plastic beach is obviously about like environmental stuff, but it's hidden within like, you know, clever lyrics and metaphors and whatnot, but humans is just so like overt, the like end of the world motif thing they're going for. I get it. It does a lot of the songs sound like, like apocalyptic, but fuck dude. It's a bit much, but, uh, what's a cool of?
Starting point is 00:52:12 the song machine. Well, it's not the most cohesive album in terms of like a theme going throughout it. I like every song on it. Even the ones that I didn't really like as much as singles, they think on the album I just like the whole thing. He likes every song, even the songs he doesn't like. Yeah, I didn't like the, what was it called? Friday the 13th?
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yeah, I wasn't mad on that one, but I really like that song now. Oh, is that? one uh with the fucking like reggaeton type dude is that one wog one brother d-dun-dun-dun oh that's not that one oh no that was going to a different one oh i like the wog one brother one what no one brother is is that friday no that's not friday the thirteenth yeah which one's friday one then the reggae one yeah the one that's like oh i'm getting confused then octavian yeah yeah that's the one i it is the one i was thinking of um i i i i don't yeah i i i i I don't like that one, but I haven't listened to the album late for a month.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, I'm taking a bit of a break from it now because I've listened to it so much. Yeah, so. It's one of these albums where it is hard to choose a favorite for me, which I think is a good sign. Yeah, I like his where every song has a feature, but it doesn't feel like guerrillas where it just isn't guerrillas anymore, you know? Sorry, did I say like humans? Because humans felt like it wasn't really a guerrillas album. Whereas this... Yeah, it's a hard thing to, like, describe, like, what makes it guerrillas.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Because everyone just, like, kind of simplified it when humans came out to... It doesn't have enough Damon on it. But I think the problem was a bit deeper than that. Yeah, there's more to it. Way more to it than that, actually. Yeah. Yeah, the features crazy good. It was...
Starting point is 00:54:09 I think I have it about on par with, like... plastic beach kind of tearing this obviously is still the recency bias and everything we'll see but like desolet you got the slow tie one so many interesting features and that classic guerrillas way where it's like I probably never would have heard some of these artists if they weren't on these songs but now I'm like into them I think about any of the pagans is the best song on it. I think I could just point to one. Really? I'd be like, yeah, there were lyrics. I really enjoy that. The one about having 100 million
Starting point is 00:54:48 Viagra tablets. Just show like that. Yeah, that's funny line. Yeah, it is a really good guerrilla song, that one. I weirdly like simplicity. I think it's on the extended version. I don't know what it is about that song. It like whisks me away. Does it give you a kiss on the tummy? Gives me a kiss on my hole. it actually made me go back and
Starting point is 00:55:11 re-listen to self-titled um like gorilla's self-titled because I did keep saying you listen to that yeah I'm like obsessed with that album it's really fucking good I'd completely kind of slept on it it's so interesting and it it does what humans like was going for much better
Starting point is 00:55:31 with that kind of feel because it has the whole you know Clint Eastwood in the zombie shit and the undead and you know it just sounds kind of gross and grimy and but it really works with the way the album like goes that album uh about song machine fuck song machine i'm just so happy it was really good yeah it was nice yeah was it gonna go next yeah i was worrying that gorillas was dead and this has made it so they're definitely not dead mm-hmm i will say i wish the music videos were a bit better because they're nowhere near on par for me as the kind of older stuff
Starting point is 00:56:12 I remember there's no like melancholy hill hill tier music video for song machine IMO but you know limitations of COVID and everything the new one was quite good though for a lost chord who came out on new year's sorry on Christmas Eve I think and they get back to plastic beach and stuff I thought that was cool you saw that that existed I haven't watched the music video there we've been throwing out there this year the best album to come out last year sorry the best album to come out was alfredo by fredi gibbs and the alchemist and uh wait that was 20 20 yeah oh damn sorry continue um pretty gives is a rapper that he took me a while to get into him uh going as far back as 2017 listening to any live you only live twice just sort of enjoying it in because i guess trap was like a sort of a thing and i guess i sort of tried more in 2017 to like get into anything that was sort of just what rap was in 2017
Starting point is 00:57:19 rap that wasn't kendrick lamar in 2017 i guess um and then you know some time goes by and then i listen to what there's pinata and there's alfredo and there's a bandana um there's his three sort of like big uh carlub albums i feel like i'm missing one but alfredo is his second album with the alchemist i think maybe i don't know maybe it's the first no it's the second one it is the second one um i'm not sure how to describe it but we were having this conversation myself and jim the other day just about yeah i like when rap songs have just they have guitars in you know having guitar and a drum kit it's fine it's It's okay, you can do that, you know, if you've got the resource. I understand that producing beats on a, I'm not being like a snob or anything.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I'm not like against that. I'm not like, oh, it's more real. It's not that. I just really like the noises that guitars make. That's sort of it. Yeah, it adds a certain depth, isn't it? And Alfredo is really excellent. I think Jim's only just sort of been listening to it a bit in the last sort of few days.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Because I was like, yeah, you listen to Freddy Gibbs. I just recommended it Freddy Gibbs is one he's a huge he's fucking really good and he has a big catalogue now a specific song
Starting point is 00:58:41 from Alfredo is God is perfect that was like an instant the second I heard it was like this song's amazing I did to my playlist and shit to listen to this me it's
Starting point is 00:58:53 baby shit my favorite song on it so I mean if anyone that how else was listened to it Yeah, I don't know what more to say. You know, I hope there's some people are happy to hear that I'm acknowledging Alfredo as the best album of 2020. Did he even come out?
Starting point is 00:59:14 Now I'm down to myself. No, it did. It definitely, yeah, it definitely came out in 2020. I mean, you'll know better than me. I just, I thought it was 2019 for some reason. Definitely 2020. No, it says here, 2020, yeah, it is. I'm not going to fucking mad.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I'm sorry, okay. I'm sorry. You let me doubt myself then. I was just thought like wait time is such a mess did it come out in 2020 one of those moments for me it was a funny and epic moment
Starting point is 00:59:40 speaking of funny and epic moments yeah say an album that's funny and epic RTJ I laughed so much okay maybe not funny yeah it's on mine it's pretty pretty fucking epic it's probably still my album of the year
Starting point is 00:59:58 even with song machine being a thing yeah I think I'm there with you it just hit it that perfect time everything came together yeah man that shit was good I think what I liked about Alfredo actually yeah just in comparison was that it wasn't challenging
Starting point is 01:00:18 anything but crazy necessarily there are some darker samples on it but yeah but yeah I think that's what I liked about Alfredo so much was that I was just like and I'm really enjoying this and I'm not thinking about anything awful
Starting point is 01:00:34 which is nice yeah yeah it can be a bit much especially when that album dropped it was like one of the worst points of the year you know James you have one I want to throw out there I have got a few this year I had a little bit of a craze
Starting point is 01:00:52 with grime and I listened to two artists in particular one being he dropped his debut album this year and that's Dutchevelli really aggressive style production is great like him a lot and the other
Starting point is 01:01:08 was I went back and listened to the entire discography of Stormsy I don't even know what I can say about that like so so good there's so many good albums there and good songs that I just don't I can't even go into it in the time we have
Starting point is 01:01:25 consistently good beat choice things like that yes Not even, not necessarily challenging, like, no, broad political themes all the time, just like, beat choice, stormsy sound passionate on the beach. Yeah, good. And, and obviously, this was a year
Starting point is 01:01:46 where I looked like a fucking idiot because I started listening to Tame Impala and I like it. Oh, no, James. damn it actually happens what have you become yeah i am that was on my list the slow rush um it's not it's not challenging as you're saying it's one of those kind of albums um yeah it's just has some like bangers on it there's two songs in particular about i i just recycled them constantly and that's deeper i think is called and the other one yeah yeah but i i just couldn't stop
Starting point is 01:02:26 like I got I got hooked to them had to listen to them every day without fail and just that whole album It doesn't also have that really good song about his dad on it that one's really good but that whole album It's a few misforgiveness
Starting point is 01:02:41 Mm hmm Yeah that's one That just that entire album is so so good so So in terms of music I haven't really
Starting point is 01:02:53 um but RTJ4 but like we've talked about RTJ4 yeah we've jacked off a lot so I don't want to mention that and besides that there really isn't much I listen to a bit too pack you know
Starting point is 01:03:13 just normal normal music that you kind of listen to but nothing nothing in particular besides the ones I have mentioned Jim um yeah I got some of the albums I sort of discovered or even re-discovered this year so going along from the RTJ thing RAP music rap music by Killer Mike oh yes yeah that's especially
Starting point is 01:03:45 good obviously last time they collaborated yeah yeah you can so tell you can so tell it's got that our LP charm yeah and It's equally as good as, like, all the quality RTJ stuff, you know? Like, if this was an RTJ album, it would probably be my favourite. It's, it has arguably one of the best RTJ songs being Reagan. Yeah, that song is just ridiculously good. I just love when someone
Starting point is 01:04:26 like even Killer Mike doesn't have the biggest voice you know compared to other rappers in terms of like clout I guess but um just when when people talk about what they believe in and
Starting point is 01:04:40 you know they really do believe in it yeah and stay consistent too yeah exactly but instead of just rapping about the the fucking lame shit The BNW, the drip.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah, yeah. All their drip, yeah. Instead of rapping about all their drip, it just feels inherently more powerful because of what you're saying. On top of that, LPs production is just awesome. Sometimes you drip so hard, you drown. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Fuck. I'll throw one out there. An artist I'm completely obsessed with now. We're discovered in lockdown, I think. I've known of him ever since GTA 5. Osheet, it's X, I think, is Thundercat song in that game. Yeah. But he released his album, It Is What It Is, in 2020.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And that's kind of what got me to just go back and listen to his whole discovery. Discography, sorry. Yeah, awesome. He's quite a character, like the way he dresses and everything. his lyrics and stuff like Dragon Ball Durag he's like such a like 90s dork and everything but fuck me can you play the bass holy shit
Starting point is 01:06:03 it's so cool yeah I think I think I like drunk more than it is what it is but it's still a really good album I would recommend hmm Ultra mono by idols somehow they reached new levels of like noise
Starting point is 01:06:22 not thought possible that when I say that the production on it is incredible I mean that I just can't believe they managed to make it that loud without losing anything what do you mean by loud
Starting point is 01:06:39 you know you think like surely this song has reached it's like you know it's a level this is the this is the highest point we're going to get to in terms of volume on this album and then it it says no actually because we're going to make everything even louder and none of it's going to peak, none of it's going to sound
Starting point is 01:06:57 bad and it's all going to be, you're going to hear every element. So I guess it's mixed. That's cool. Really, really well. Or mastered one or the other. Look, I didn't fucking do music. Mixed or mastered, one of the other. Really well. exceptionally well.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And everything is really fucking loud without anything getting lost. Nice. It's great. You got the best track on it, war. That's the song I'd recommend from it is war. Yeah, I got another one. can think of as i tj4 has been spoken about so yeah the only other ones i have are kind of artists have either rediscovered or um i don't think i've ever told the like anderson pack thing on the cast before no you haven't because i kind of i've absorbed him through osmosis through
Starting point is 01:07:45 reuben um i think malibu like loads of songs from that album like i just already knew for some reason yeah probably but it was because of you released lockdown and cut him in this year which I liked a lot but I went back and listened to Ventura as well just really like a star he's you know he's sick and then I jumped back into LCD sound system because I always used to listen to just like singles basically I wouldn't listen to whole albums as much But I've gone through all of their albums multiple times now, and I'm just obsessed with them all, to be honest. I really like them all.
Starting point is 01:08:29 They're like so self-indulgently long almost, like their style. But I don't know, it feels such like payoff in each song, the way they're like build up. And it's really satisfying. And the last one I want to throw out is just some food, MF Doom. I'd never really listen to him outside of that guerrilla song I'd always been meaning to but that's one of those unfortunate things where of course the moment he passes away
Starting point is 01:09:01 is when I happen to get really into him more but ridiculously good I listened to Mad Villany today actually again there's nothing to be said about that album that hasn't been said before it's a good album I also listen to I also like Caribou's album this year a lot suddenly I really liked the album oh yeah yeah yeah I'd forgotten about
Starting point is 01:09:25 that too pleasant listening interesting listening yeah it is very pleasant it was very serene just in different ways yeah yeah that's it though in albums any others for music because that's all my major ones of note although I didn't actually say the Anderson pack thing because he's the one who says the pussy on the brain thing like he doesn't he feature in a song yeah yeah he features on that song with that yeah yeah and and he's yeah he's he's he's just the the hook or the chorus I guess it's yeah because what is the album that song is on I don't I don't know the name of the album because it's a Mac Miller album and I don't listen to yeah that's really been a fan
Starting point is 01:10:06 yeah that's what that's why I would have missed it yeah but yeah that goes that goes that runs deep so if we're done with music I suppose we should wrap this up we've games no games we've got games games games games oh right sorry i thought you meant you have more music yeah no no all right okay so we are moving on to music anyway okay games fuck yeah shit okay fuck it then i i'm gonna start off by throwing out doom eternal um yeah it's it's kind of a long-running joke on jar um especially with jim like not really liking dune 2016 that much. And I was kind of there with him. I'm not as negative on it as Jim, but it was just missing a certain something and I could never really quite describe it until I played Doom Eternal. It's like this is what I wanted from this game. Maybe not like the story cutscene shit. I don't care about any of that stuff. The actual game design and the way like every enemy has a certain like weakness and the whole like sandbox of it and it's so much nicer like than the 2016 one and terms of like you know when you fall off the map and shit doesn't like load have to
Starting point is 01:11:21 reload to like the last checkpoint and stuff like that and finding all the collectibles is way more fun and I just had a great time playing that and the grapple hook too on the shotgun was like my favorite thing it's so much fun yeah that game actually like had a gameplay system you know like a doom um the first doom that was just the same thing. Every room, you do the same thing to every enemy. What you do is always the same. Whereas Doom Eternal, you're constantly
Starting point is 01:11:56 having to actually make decisions instead of the same feud. It's just like everything's been expanded in that game. Yeah. A true sequel should be. It's like keys and locks. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sick game. I also played Doom Eternal
Starting point is 01:12:14 this year. I was like, hyped for it you know i'd gotten really sucked into the doom um just mostly the the sound the presentation of it the soundtrack and the style i just uh really liked doom's soundtrack uh and i guess it made me more into just like metal and shit as a genre um so i was pretty pumped for it and then i ended up not really being that crazy about it i didn't dislike it i just sort of found it It didn't give me the feeling of the Doom Slayer that I was looking for. I was mostly just getting annoyed by it instead of feeling like, I am ripping and tearing. It was like, oh, I'm being ripped and torn.
Starting point is 01:12:58 You're ripped on? I was ripped on. Best in peace ripped on. Then I started it again recently, and while I don't think I'll finish it again for a long time, I still come away of it from it mostly positive, like when I think about, yeah, you know, I like what Doom's about. I'm glad it's around. I'm glad we have doom Yeah
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yeah But we don't Obviously we have that doom In place of A certain other doom now I'll take it Damn Yeah
Starting point is 01:13:30 Well Well Well Well It is time to mention The elephant In the womb Call of duty
Starting point is 01:13:44 Warzone Oh okay Yeah I won't mention my vasectomy then. So, we've... Cod this year became a meme. Because every week, there'd be some reference to Cod, the Call of Duty corner podcast, or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:01 But this, the truth is, I played a fucking stupid amount of Cod this year. A stupid amount. Like, I think two months game time. Whoa. I played a lot of Warzone. I played a lot of multiplayer. I burnt every season.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I completed every season. The first thing I've ever done in any game. I failed two Apex Legends season. I finished like eight Cod seasons. The game is still bad though, and it was not worth any of my time. No, that is actually bullshit. I think Warzone is the second best battery are.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Yeah, I actually thoroughly enjoyed myself with that. I mean, I was pissed off. I'll say something. one thing they fixed the worst part about it when nobody played the game anymore what was that C4
Starting point is 01:14:53 Wars and C4 yeah you can't throw it anywhere near as far I've seen like I played that game a lot there's so much good many good things about it and I'm I'm upset that black ops launched in like a fucking half-ar state but there's so much that they can improve on the formula
Starting point is 01:15:11 and it's going to be a while till we get an actual good cod that's improving on the cod we are on modern warfare I still cod has gone in a really good direction I hope it improves
Starting point is 01:15:23 but it was still a very fun time and the fact that I can I played it so much proves that it's the first call of duty game since modern warfare two that's worthy of the name you know I've actually
Starting point is 01:15:36 I'm with Jim in saying that it's the second best um uh fucking Barrio It is hard to beat Fortnite though So we've got to be Yeah, I think it is a second best
Starting point is 01:15:52 In fact, when I look back on the sort of last few Sort of like play sessions I had more fun with it than I've had on All of my last few Apex sessions Yeah It's just the most casual Therefore, like that's always What Cod has been
Starting point is 01:16:09 I think Casual stupid shit One of the things that definitely does help, like I've compared the amount of times I've played Cod Warzone to Apex. I like Apex a lot, it's respawn, it feels great, but I've never completed a season. I've failed twice. I've completed eight in Cod. What's the difference? Eight. Yeah, I finished every battle pass in Cod. I didn't know you did all of them. Yeah, I did. Jesus Christ, I thought you got fed up around the time we sort of stopped, like playing the Warzone regularly.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I kept playing but like I think the casual part of Cod makes Battle of Wales more bearable because if you get sick
Starting point is 01:16:50 you can just play normal multiplayer yeah true it definitely helps that game and it still is still good still really good I think a big part of of Warzone
Starting point is 01:16:59 not to keep on the subject of Cod for too long was it had less of the feeling of you spend a bunch of time getting stuff and you just get wiped out by the first team you encounter
Starting point is 01:17:09 yeah just because of the loadouts, which that was also its greatest weakness was the load out. So, you know, but it was still, I It made quite a fun cycle, though, of like you can level stuff up in normal multi and
Starting point is 01:17:23 then move on to war zone. Which is what Apex lacked. It lacked that compatibility with other modes. Yeah, there's nothing else. Yeah. But let's just hope there's the cod improves in the future, but this year has had a
Starting point is 01:17:40 very big surprise for me. A very big surprise. Multiple people here right now have played this game called Faza Horizon. Yeah. Yeah. And that game is not very good. It's really uncanny. All of the characters in it are unbelievably cringy.
Starting point is 01:18:01 It tries so hard to be something and it fails. The game is just meta. The whole game, the whole online, the whole car thing. It's like an open world with no... with no content. They're just like you put a finish line summer and you
Starting point is 01:18:15 it's not thoughtful you know and I've played that game a lot so I was really pleasantly surprised when need for speed heat
Starting point is 01:18:23 turned out to be forza horizon but really good isn't that a mobile game no it's the the recent that's they have like you said need for speed
Starting point is 01:18:34 sorry I was still thinking of forza because didn't forza release a mobile game yet they did yeah that's what I was thinking of yep sorry yeah this is this is the best
Starting point is 01:18:42 best need for speed game in a very long time like need for speed out of all the games was was beaten to death so having like being able to play one that feels feels like an actual game and it feels like a complete package it's been a really nice surprise it's very fun it's very arcadey there's loads of customization it's got more believable characters than fucking forza and that it's because it's all hype these characters it's all just drip fucking supreme shit. Fuck sake. But it was nice.
Starting point is 01:19:14 It's nice having a racing game that is like that. And there's loads of... It's not the best racing games, but it's nice to have like a really arcade game where you can just, you know, get in a Lamborghini and getting cop chasers. It's kind of nice. The industry is missed that.
Starting point is 01:19:31 You know, the... Like a battle pass or anything like that. No. It's got none of that shit. Micro's... What? No micro-transactions. It's got one.
Starting point is 01:19:40 DLC, there's a car, that's cheap, no micro-transactions, no battle paths, no nothing. That's why it surprised me. It's just pure. It's an old-school game, and it's really good for that reason. Yeah, it sounds very reminiscent of the PS2 era. Like, you said, getting a Lamborghini drive away from police. Yeah. That's really PS2 era.
Starting point is 01:19:59 It's like, it's got these, you know, during the day, you have these daylight races, and it's, it is Horizon, basically. It's the Horizon Festival. But in the night, you get these fucking intense police chasers. It's like you get these two opposites that really complement each other. Horizon's done well. Safe. Yeah. It's very safe.
Starting point is 01:20:18 That's why they have the festival. It doesn't have all the stuff you can miss. Yeah, there's lots of FOMO, which you've said every time we've played recently. You've played about FOMO content. FOMO content killed. Like, of all the games I play, I play racing games the most and have throughout my life. A FOMO content killed FOSA for me. Completely.
Starting point is 01:20:39 just murders every game it's putting it so so not fun so derogatory and abusive as well so just having this racing game that just feels old school just is so nice like I got it for five pound off EA play and I've had a I've started a second play through
Starting point is 01:20:56 when did you ever start second playfrews of racing games yeah if you are a car person you like games I try it it's just fun it's just a little fun game play like two hours of maybe once every other day have a good time boom and that's all
Starting point is 01:21:13 and that is what games should be not fucking addictions not every week every day battle pass just fun gaming this is the game that's been fun gaming needs to be fun
Starting point is 01:21:26 and that's what means the most Jim got any games for us Um, uh, cyberpunk. Yes. Yes. Did you finish it yet? I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I bring this up because it's sort of in the list for all the wrong reasons. I've... Oh, really? For now, I've given up. I've... Normally I don't do this with games now. Like, I buy a game, especially one, like, this is a big deal like this. I will finish it
Starting point is 01:22:08 even if there are bits of it I don't like but this fucking hell they screwed the pooch they screwed it bad yeah I was thinking about trying to get a refund on my one because I've tried to play it a couple of times and I've just been going through the settings menu and then I get
Starting point is 01:22:26 locked in the settings menu and I can't get out yeah yeah I just like crash I just close the game and it's like well you don't want me to play it clearly so I'm not gonna I've actually got a list here of of like all the reasons I wanted, like, that built up for why I don't want to
Starting point is 01:22:42 play this game right now. So the first reason, not a huge deal, but just kind of annoying. The LOD, when you're like driving around the map, so like the level of detail. They're like 10 feet in front
Starting point is 01:22:58 of you. Shit will just load in. It's very poor. It's really better. And like, it's so you have it well Reuben because I'm pretty sure you run it at higher settings I installed a couple of mods that like improved certain things yeah and then they released an update which meant that the mods didn't work anymore and the game looked worse again so cheers guys yeah so there's that so you can't move around the
Starting point is 01:23:25 map without your immersion being broken I mean that's if you're driving around the map and there isn't just like cars flying around and shit like being launched I did see a few times and as hilarious as it is you expect that more from like GTA online or something where you want it to be something you like initiate yeah like the swing yeah and two cars spawn inside of each other and then flame that it stops being funny eventually because you're just a bit like oh well because you you really want to sit and get immersed in this world but here's another one of my issues I have noticed a weird amount of spelling errors in the
Starting point is 01:24:05 menus in the really like yeah I'm pretty sure that there was a perk I can't remember the specifics but I'm pretty sure it was a perk and in the description of what the perk was meant
Starting point is 01:24:19 to do for me like the grammar was just wrong so I didn't really understand what it did you know this just reeks of like a foreign game that is not ready to be out mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:24:32 um bloody foreigners bloody ill I mean yeah but there's another another annoying glitch where
Starting point is 01:24:49 like you just can't pick up a loop or it just stays on the screen after you've picked it up and possibly the most annoying one for me is the constant FOV changing the field of view will just
Starting point is 01:25:02 there'll be like cutscene or you talk to someone it changes the FOV and then it's meant to go back to what you've set it as after that conversation then it won't it just gets it won't you're just stuck with this tiny FOV and the amount of times I've had to fucking like quit out or reload a save because of that exact thing as well as other glitches it just adds up to me saying now I'm not gonna play this now I'm gonna wait I think you should have done what I did yeah i think i should have too but i i didn't believe it could be released in a state like this especially after the the most recent uh delays and stuff yeah yeah i was really sort of convinced
Starting point is 01:25:48 after that like yeah surely yeah and the the most annoying thing about it though is that this isn't a shit game there is stuff in this game like that you can't get anywhere else yeah no Because that's the thing. I want to give it some praise in a moment for the things it actually does do good. The thing it do good. Yeah, you go ahead. The things it does well.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I mean, it has some very good writing for a long time. The writing stays very good. I actually finished it. By the way, I did finish the game. I did like every major bit of side content. And I got to the end. And I had an ending. he only Reeves is fantastic in it and I really enjoyed being in the world when it was working there were times I was walking around but the whole time all I'm feeling is this like wistful like god I wish that this didn't also look like fucking shit most of the time because further than just the glitches it's it just isn't a very smooth looking experience uh compared to the experiences you've had playing like red dead yeah let's say red
Starting point is 01:27:01 Red Dead, but obviously, you know, Red Dead doesn't have as many, anywhere near as many people, you know, walking around, which is a big deal inside the public. I'd say the city in Red Dead, like, it's about as dense. It's pretty bustling. Yeah, yeah, that's true. They don't have an excuse. GTA 5 is about as dense.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Well, yeah, the amount of people. That was one of the games I compared it to. It was like, well, GTA 5 was promising to be very, you know, look out of crazy a look. and that was on an Xbox 360 and they pulled it off. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, that's a significant downgrade in terms of what sort of like potential consoles and PCs have now.
Starting point is 01:27:46 But I do think that, yeah, the writing is very good. All of the voice acting is really good. So they have all of that down. They have their story, their performances. They have a very clear, cohesive look for the game. They have these themes, which sort of reveal truths or you can just see not so much reflected but you can see you can draw comparisons between things in cyberpunk and the world now or maybe what we think the world will be
Starting point is 01:28:13 and that that element of it is really excellent when the game is working killing people and it is also a lot of fun sounds horrible but yeah it is it's gameplay is quite a lot of fun when you're when it's actually working um so yeah i think there's a lot of good there and in a year people probably be calling it like the best RPG ever i just yeah i definitely am going to finish it at some point like it's too i there's too much quality there for me not to but right now i feel like i'm just going to be getting a worse experience so what's the point yeah you're saying how like you can't choose how you want your guy to look if you want like this best gear there's like no trans-mog system type yeah it's really stupid that which is really bizarre
Starting point is 01:29:03 yeah it's the same as destiny it's lame too many games are doing that just let me destiny is actually adding that just as a fun lord that's why i like shit like uh red dead and gta the way they do it like it doesn't matter what the fuck you wear you can be naked all your starts are the same i mean it's kind of not true in red dead but like in gta you can just wear whatever you want I'd prefer to customize my dude over having like fake deep RPG shit
Starting point is 01:29:31 because you don't have a choice when it's done like this you go for the big number so then what's the point of it even being a thing I might as well just level up you know my health might as well increase by that amount yeah it's lame
Starting point is 01:29:45 I have a game I want to shout out oh go on then I think it didn't come out in 2020 but it's probably the best game I've played in years Sekido Yeah, bye Oh, fuck What a crazy good game
Starting point is 01:29:58 I feel like So accomplished Playing that game Because I played it earlier in the year And kind of hit a roadblock And couldn't beat a boss And just gave up But I started the game again
Starting point is 01:30:11 And just like whizzed through it Because I had all the muscle memory From that first playthrough It's like, whoa It really teaches you the mechanics extremely well And expands all I'm in such a fun way and I'm
Starting point is 01:30:23 towards the end of this playthrough now and it is just so well designed I was never that interested in the games as much before because of the you know seeing all the menus and shit I just don't care about that side of it as much I just like the the simple system just done
Starting point is 01:30:39 and pushed as far as it can go within Sekira so incredible yeah I've spoken enough times on Sekira I think on jarcasts yeah definitely one of my favourite games of all time
Starting point is 01:30:54 I'm really glad you're finally getting around to finishing it potentially yeah and the like the art direction and the design of everything is so sick yeah I don't think there is a single bad thing about that game no
Starting point is 01:31:10 yeah I haven't really come across anything I would I would point out in terms of that kind of stuff I'll also shout out ory in the Will of the Whips oh yeah that was this year I really liked the first one yeah it was this year um it was a
Starting point is 01:31:26 it was a little bit of a cyberpunk situation obviously nowhere near as bad that well actually I did stop playing that game because of how poorly it was like running on my answer so I never go around to finishing it yeah yeah it did run really badly and wasn't quite ready
Starting point is 01:31:43 but now it's all patched up you can play it in the form it's meant to be really fun fucking beautiful music as well Gareth Cocker he's doing some Halo music as well I think he's really talented
Starting point is 01:31:57 really fun really fun to like speed run I got all the achievements in it and everything awesome game going along from Sekhiro a little bit another game based in Japan goes to Tsushima
Starting point is 01:32:10 oh yeah I forgot you played that I really really like goes to Tsushima I think it's PlayStation's best or the best exclusive on PS4, maybe not including Bloodborn, but I never finished that game. Yeah, it's a game where I was actually engaged in all aspects of it. For an open world game, it's relatively cookie cutter, for them to make that adjustment of navigating the map with the wind.
Starting point is 01:32:45 So, like, you swipe up on the PlayStation controller and it blows wind in the direction. that you've got to be going in. That's so much better as like a guiding tool instead of a dotted line on a map. Yeah. Which actually look at your environment. Yeah. Just make the comparison to Assassin's Creed Odyssey or something. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:33:07 ... fucking blows. Or even cyberpunk. So that aspect grabbed me and the way I'm a bunch of the side quests are implemented is through visual stuff I mean not side quest but side activities like you'll notice a fox
Starting point is 01:33:27 and then you follow the fox and you get an upgrade thing and that's another thing all the side content like it makes you want to do it because it really benefits you in the gameplay
Starting point is 01:33:40 and on top of that I found the story actually really engaging So yeah, all-round good game. Like, you'd want from an Ubisoft game, but they never quite get right. Exactly. You did one of those really were. No, it seems like Sony made like a game like that for all kinds of people.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Like for the dinosaur people, you got your, what's that game called? Robot, dinosaur. Horizon. Zerodon. Omoson. Zerodon. If you like superheroes, you got Spider-Aloid. aloy
Starting point is 01:34:15 etc etc spider aloy it's my fucking favorite game spider aloy of Tsushima of war um
Starting point is 01:34:29 fuck anyone got any more games because I played less games than everything else flight simulator was released and that's just an incredible uh oh yeah
Starting point is 01:34:40 it's kind of incredible they managed to make that's heck showcase yeah nuts uh especially you. I really liked the idea of flying stuff in any game ever since I was really young. So, like, a simulator was like a chance for me to get back to that. It was like the first, because when you're a kid, it was like, wow, you want it something like shit. But this was the first time that as an adult that I was like, wow. That's really good. It's so impressive. I'm actually
Starting point is 01:35:05 impressed. And yeah, I obviously can't play all the time. It's not one of those games, but it is excellent um trying to think here death stranding that's something that i've i've not got too far in yet but i think i'm going to really like uh i am really liking it so far more than i thought i thought i was going to run into like oh god with it but no i think it's the worst amazing game i've ever played great what do you mean or the best awful game i've i've ever played i don't like the story yeah that's the thing like i don't know if it does man the gameplay is getting to places but you see though it's yeah like thoughtful is the the active word
Starting point is 01:36:07 with this game like everything every action you do has to be somewhat calculated you can never really it's exhausting playing it because of that yeah worn out by it but yeah at the same time it's like um because it's so beautiful when you're going through these like jaw-dropping environments it's sort of tranquil as well it's like a meditative process playing and doing some like missions in that game it mean for me a lot of my experience has been like I'm really enjoying just traversing this landscape and, you know, putting ropes down for people as I go and ladders and stuff. I really hope there's not a BT, oh, there's a BT encounter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:54 It's going for me. But, I mean, that works in an immersive way. Yeah, and it adds to the constant you have to be thinking the whole time. Yeah. Consciously about your actions. And I guess this whole theme was about connecting people, consciously thinking about our world and our understanding. environment and others, you know, whatever that, in whatever sense, others. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:16 And, and that's another, another thing, like he, the story is stupid and pretty poorly told, but the way it looks and I don't know, the actors just seem to be kind of like into it. and they don't really care about being like kind of embarrassing yeah they got no issues of it yeah i i just really really you think that game is special yeah and my final funny little thing for games i don't think i have anything else i mean my r3d all-stars came out that was a nice little trip down memory lane oh yeah yeah watchdogs legion came out and i haven't but I remember being told maybe I'll get in trouble for that
Starting point is 01:38:13 anyway my friend is in it one of my friends is in Watch Dogs Legion as a podcast host one of my professors from university yeah he was in it it's really weird and yeah the game fucking sucks
Starting point is 01:38:30 but he's in it oh yeah That was just a little 20-20 ha-ha moment that I wrote down. My friend was in Watchdogs, bracket, lull, bracket, is what I wrote down on my notes. That's funny. No. I know... Sorry, bro.
Starting point is 01:38:53 I saved the best game from last year till last. Can I just say, it's 11 o'clock. I kind of need to go. Okay. That's fine, bro. Do you want... Just say good. night to the gowling so bro um have a nice 2022 um we'll catch you next time
Starting point is 01:39:14 bye you're gonna be for a year man he's gone he's fucking what were you saying sorry yeah the best game of last year hmm half life Alex oh yeah yeah it's probably a true like in every sense the technical leap yeah the game seriously i i'm going to say i've played it three times because i've i've played it once all the way through and then twice like halfway through so it's something about the start of that game i just love but uh man i don't think it was just the best game of last year i think it's like the best game fuck it it's just the best game damn still even in this long after playing it yeah the first time no because it it goes beyond the because this is the year I've tried out VR for the first time and it goes
Starting point is 01:40:14 beyond just the initial like whoa VR is cool and it's just actually a fucking sick game along with me already being invested into the half life It gave me everything I could have possibly wanted. Nice. Excellent. I mean, that's my list sort of exhausted. I don't know about you guys. If you have anything else to throw out there,
Starting point is 01:40:47 so we wind this down. I think so. Yeah, we've been playing to save recently. Sib's a cool game. That's all I got, man. Yeah, Siv is a cool game. Jim, is your lister? exhausted yeah yeah that was i was saving that till last because i think it was the best thing
Starting point is 01:41:07 ever damn i know james had like something else you had to throw you wanted to throw him but yeah it's getting late and you know i got to edit this and shit out for tomorrow as of recording this so i think that's a pretty chunk episode i'm happy with how that turned out do you guys think yeah it was a uh an epic i think i got through everything I was the post to yeah yeah kind of a
Starting point is 01:41:36 kind of episode yeah yeah definitely it made me sort of yeah yeah yeah yeah you can do that as much as you want now but I don't know James
Starting point is 01:41:47 it's gone yeah but I don't really want to do it well he's gone yeah it's not really like what's the fucking point yeah yeah true well thanks for us and
Starting point is 01:42:00 to this um i guess it's the first cast of 2021 yeah um let's say uh 2020 2020 poop poop and uh we'll see on the next one 2020 poop fucking 22 piss piss 21 absolutely

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