JAR Media Posdact - jaRRR - JARCast Episode 316

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 well uh should i do it or should i not do it because now i'm getting a bit scared no we're like half an hour into the into recording no we're in that juicy period where i'm not sure where at what point is going to be the intro but one point of it will be yeah and it's going to be right now i've got some tag everybody Okay, do you go French? Do you know any French? I know the alphabet. A, B, C, D, O, F, G, G, C.
Starting point is 00:00:44 What's that song weird to sing in primary school? Don't, no, no, I don't. I don't. I don't want to remember. Oh, no, the French one. Je sue le. I didn't pay attention in French, to be fair. Me neither, that was my doodle time.
Starting point is 00:01:06 No, but the thing is, I love French as a language, and I would love to know it, but I'm stupid. For me, it was like, I was anti-learning French on principle, where I was seeing it through a pure kind of utilitarian lens, where it's like, I'm not planning to go to France, and if I had some, like, crazy France trip planned, maybe I'd be more into this, but, like, there was no France on my horizon
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm not going to those parts of Africa where they're speaking French so what am I going to do with this why isn't France on your horizon now it's so close and it's such a lovely country why wouldn't you go
Starting point is 00:01:44 you answered your question you can like travel to the south of France for nothing because we're so close and that shit's like you know that's got good vibes I guess there are other places in Europe I'd rather splash for the time being
Starting point is 00:02:00 Like Italy Yeah Guess what guess was next to the South of France Bro Italy Italy? Yes
Starting point is 00:02:08 Spain You shifted your France thing to Spain No I've got no beef With the Spanish No I've got no beef with the Spanish Besides they've What's your beef with the Italians
Starting point is 00:02:28 then. No, nobody can have beef of the Italians. Like, who has beef of the Italians? Okay, besides they... Oh, we did in World War II. Yeah, but besides their current government being pretty white wing, that's like the only problem with Italy. That's a lot of European countries, though, I guess.
Starting point is 00:02:45 They're just going back on their fascist, too. Greece? Huh? Um... What about Germany? Germany? I've got no problems with Germany. Harrybo.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Bo, Haibo is not my thing Do you think they do like a Harrybo factory tour thing And you can like See the main thing everyone does there It's all Harrybo related Yeah And you can like watch the horse's hooves being Oh yeah this is my favourite sort of gum
Starting point is 00:03:11 I better saying I want to go to Germany Why? Because it's huge That's the reason Why don't you go to Russia then? I'm not allowed to Right now, obviously, but you know.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I'm banned. You're banned? Oh, yeah, you're actually... You can't go to Russia. America's big. You're actually banned from Russia. Do tell? No, I can't.
Starting point is 00:03:37 No, you can't tell. I can't tell. And I'm banned from China as well. I can't go. Oops. No, this isn't me. I'm generally... I generally can't go.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I generally can't go. Same reason I've got to occasionally take things out of the cast. That doesn't make it anymore. one specific. Well, yeah, that's I'm trying to keep it. Actually, no, no, it does. Yeah. I would disappear, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:04 That's all I'm saying. Okay. Okay. So if anyone wants to plan a jar meeting, don't do it in Russia or China. Another thing about Germany. Sausages. They love sausage.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Well, I'll guess Octoberfest as well. Oh, yeah, beer as well. Sausage and beer, the two best things ever made. I'm gummy bears. No, gummy bears aren't even like a good Harry bear. I guess they are. No, they're not. There's a reason it owned the internet back in the day.
Starting point is 00:04:36 No, that's because they made a fire song. Yeah. Yeah, German. No, what's the, um, those... What's that German? Yeah. What's those sweets we tried recently? Hersham's, like, um, those little, like candy sticks are really, really nice.
Starting point is 00:04:50 They're German. Oh, those German as well? Yeah, but I can't remember what the name, Hitchies, Hitchies. Hite cheese Hitchies Someone will know what I mean They're like the candy sticks And I can't remember
Starting point is 00:05:00 I'm really bad remembering names I know where their factory is actually Woohoo It's near where I work Yeah Baby Why don't you do a little Heist and get some of them
Starting point is 00:05:11 Delicious German sticks I guess I should go over to Germany and have a wonder See what happens Don't you Don't you miss that era The gummy bear era No
Starting point is 00:05:23 That was the one worst era. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. It was when, like, little kids, like, understood how to browse the internet better than adults,
Starting point is 00:05:35 so it was mostly, like, kind of inappropriate. We're not little kids. Yeah, like, 28 was out. No. Little kids still, like, all this... So it was all this creepy, like, European content that was, like, a little bit inappropriate, you know? For, like, kids that. kind of age. It was like a mix of that and like like hentai clips to like music
Starting point is 00:06:02 videos and stuff. Yeah, I remember. Between hentai clips to music videos. It was the first time I saw hentai was on YouTube. Yeah. I remember it was like a like a fan edit of um Naruto. Yeah. And they like spliced in some hentai tapes. Yeah. It was like, oh no. Oh, is that how they got through that argument to get porn on. Yeah. Yeah. The filtering and stuff like was just not. Oh, it was non-existent. I just poem was straight up on that. You knew how to find it. Manually found.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. The stuff was everywhere, yeah. There is some weird shit you can find on YouTube now, though. Oh, yeah, of course. Like, there's so much content uploaded. No, but that's where it's, like, related to ARG. That's where the weirdest stuff is. It's all out of AIG.
Starting point is 00:06:41 No, no, but I'm talking about, like, hardcore stuff. Like, because there's, there's, like, a loophole. I heard this through some other podcast, and then I, like, I obviously searched it to find out the truth. and it was very much true there's on YouTube and it's like totally allowed there's just footage of
Starting point is 00:07:01 like a GoPro that's been put inside a woman with a dick oh yeah the educational like loop up because it counts as educational yeah yeah yeah I've seen that video
Starting point is 00:07:11 it's kind of fire yeah it rocks I've not seen it I learned so much from that I don't go out my way to find that did I ever tell you about the opportunity it shows you what a baby see
Starting point is 00:07:24 I guess I want to watch it now True, that's show you what babies is But yeah There was an opportunity in my work recently To work in Japan Really? Yeah, there was an opportunity in our Japan officers To, you know, be like a support guy
Starting point is 00:07:39 In Japan And I met all the criteria And I didn't apply Why didn't you? Me I generally just did not have the confidence to Because it needed like some additional stuff That I currently don't have
Starting point is 00:07:53 Well, you should have I know I should have done it I imagine I could literally be moving to Japan I could be moving to Tokyo that would be amazing yeah there would actually be the dream but then Jaya would just be like Jaya Japan
Starting point is 00:08:09 yeah they're still to move to Japan they need like a population boost right like yeah give me the look it's true don't they have like the first like They've got, no, it's the memes of, um...
Starting point is 00:08:27 They have, like, more old people, they're not being replaced. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, so at the... I'm just thinking, like, if you think about what you just said too much. Oh, like, we're going there for, like, spread our seed like Elon. Yeah, man. Honestly, I'm going to Japan next year. Like, I mentioned to you guys, like, a few days ago, but I'm absolutely going to Japan next year.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I'm absolutely going to Japan next year. On a seed spreading mission, Norman. No, no, I'm not, I'm not going to spread my seed. Elon would be very disappointed in you. Good, I want him to be disappointed in me. I mean, good afternoon, morning, evening, on night. Oh, is this way we're starting? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:11 No, no, why would you start here? We've had funny conversation. It doesn't mean it's not going to be used. It just means the intro haven't been said yet. Good afternoon, morning, evening on night, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to this episode of the Charmedia podcast. I'm sure it's going to frustrate. all the people watching, like, on the video or whatever,
Starting point is 00:09:29 but I keep, like, fingering my mouth, because I got a little bone, like, stuck up in my gum. So I'm just justifying me going for the whole episode. Don't you like fingering your own mouth? Bone and mouth? How? Messed up, bro. It hurts.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Well, before we get too deep into the show, let me shout out the Jarm Media Patreon. on you support the audio versions of the show, get your names read out in the first or second week of each month if you are a dibby tier or above. Thanks to support, everybody. Five star on iTunes as well and Spotify. I think Spotify is actually more important now.
Starting point is 00:10:08 There are way more ratings on Spotify anyway than iTunes I've noticed. I mean, it's across all platforms. Yeah, but I have noticed actually as far as the like stats breakdown is concerned it used to be way more leaning to people listening on iTunes now Spotify good Spotify is the better service yeah yeah nice one joe let's do some housekeeping we clean up the conversations from the previous episode we got some uh you're some juicy ones here uh hooded says uh this is the most important comment from last episode says, eh? I want him to say it more often. And then Zell replied to that saying, I love that.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And when he shouts, right. Um, no. Where do you guys stand on that? No. No. I'm going to have to pull a James here. Huh? Huh? What's up? This, this is a potential problem with you being in charge of housekeeping. Oh, what do you mean? You're like digging through the comments, like, what is one that makes air sound good? Selective propaganda. Yeah, it is propaganda as well. Because for every, like... For every win we get, Alex does hide them so he can only choose the wins he gets.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Well, there's a win for you here, James, from Kung Thule. Love how James says he has a low alcohol tolerance because he gets drunk from one glass, but then admits that he puts a quarter bottle of rum in a single glass. Oopsie. That's not a win though. That's just alcoholism. Victor says started watching the cast when I was around 13 or 14, I think. Just hit 20 recently. It's surreal going back to some of the older videos with friends who've also been watching the cast for that long.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Also interesting to notice how much different eras of the cast affected my humour. You forged me into the man I am. Sorry. Yeah, apologies. Yeah, we've made a monster. We've made multiple so far. That's the sci-up working as intended. Um...
Starting point is 00:12:40 Oh, seeing as we were talking about Ix last episode. Oh, we were, weren't we? Louis Asbden mentioned a kind of ick moment he got. I was in my university library the other week, and I'd hired a study room to get some work done, but didn't know where it was in the building. I went to one of the maps on the wall and used my finger to track where I was, and a girl stood near me said, Ew, that's such an ick. She was a scouser, and everyone heard. I replied, you'll be single for a long time if that's an ick, to which people around me gasped, like I'd said something horrendous.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Make what you will of that. Damn You're calling out people's icks Yeah, you can't do that You cannot ick shame Absolutely ick shame at every opportunity No, you cannot ick shame If you ick shame you will be taken down
Starting point is 00:13:34 But I mean he's He's got a point Like No, I'm with him on this It's not an ick to put your finger on a map and go Well, where about some eye on the map? I think the conversation can then there. I think that you perfectly...
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. Billy's watching us. Raying litter grass says as a girl, who's somewhat involved with the car community through a friend, James isn't exaggerating. Like 95% of car guys are ignorant assholes who are stuck in their 2017 anti-SJW phase. Jim is right too though
Starting point is 00:14:17 Because there's lots of girls who chase after them I don't think podcasting is a red flag But I get what James is saying Because most of the clips of podcasters That get pushed into the algorithm And go viral on TikTok etc Are reactionary misogynist So that's what people think of when it comes to podcasts
Starting point is 00:14:32 Host by men even though they're the minority You have the guys have red flags Well I'm gone sick And James was right the whole time I was just Trying to make him cry Sahad can end this segment Hello from India
Starting point is 00:14:50 Maybe if you add some TikTok sounds To the first three minutes The watch time stats for India might go up a bit Huh? Nah What do you mean no Do you mean you to stop? No, I'm going to do it
Starting point is 00:15:04 Oh, oh shit Well guys It's time for the discussion of the episode like we do every episode that we organise something and we plan a conversation around it and we each bring our thing and they talk about it in detail
Starting point is 00:15:24 So unfortunately for everyone This is really not what you want to hear But we're going to start talking about feet No Vanda Tocare 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 actually left What we're going to have a little discussion about right now Alex rated RRR on his letterboxed
Starting point is 00:15:43 So I was wondering if he had any thoughts on it. As an Indian, I thought it was pretty good. I was very surprised by the reception it got from foreign markets, however. What did Alex, as well as anyone else that watched it, think? Where, where do we begin? Where on earth do we begin? Rise, Raw, Revolt. It might be one of my favorite movies ever. Yeah, I thought it stood for really, really ridiculous and good I'm with James
Starting point is 00:16:18 one of the best movies I've ever seen my best experience seeing a movie so yeah I was a couple days ago we managed to find
Starting point is 00:16:28 carve out a bit of time to sit down together and watch RRR the 2022 Masterpiece Yeah master piece Master Chief yeah it's actually what kind of what you said james
Starting point is 00:16:44 like where do you begin with this what were you expecting like when I can't remember what I said all I said was like there's this crazy movie we need to see yeah you just described it as an action film yeah but of course it's so much more yeah so much more it has everything
Starting point is 00:17:03 it is every genre it's every genre in one film one of the top reviews views on letterbox for it describe it as like the most movie to ever movie yeah i think that's kind of an apt um description of it so it's a three hour long um indian epic loosely very very loosely based off these two revolutionary figures um from india and it's kind of like well what if these two guys like met
Starting point is 00:17:38 which they never did in real life and like what would they look like what fun can we get from that that framing um and of course it being set in the the
Starting point is 00:17:47 occupation of India by the by us um yeah by jar by jar uh jar
Starting point is 00:17:59 uh jar but yeah so there's like a clear villainous force but then there's like layers of should we I guess spoilers should we say spoilers no no that's not spoil it
Starting point is 00:18:16 you need to fucking watch it you just need to watch it it's too much of a masterpiece it's so accessible like it's on Netflix right it is on Netflix so just just go and watch the movie
Starting point is 00:18:26 stop right now and watch it yeah like it's actually you have to it's urgent it's one of movies where like as as it went along I was like this is pure like trash mm-hmm you know hang on a minute it's winning me over and then it's like okay this is schlock yeah and then it's like oh it's using this time to do this mm-hmm and I'm like I'm
Starting point is 00:18:56 like falling in love with this piece of media what was the point where it won you over because I know it takes a little bit for me it's the first real action scene with the compound and that it didn't have me at that point it didn't have me at that point either it was it's the bridge that bridge seems like
Starting point is 00:19:15 okay yeah like that's when it was just like okay I get what they're doing what they're doing and then it's just like they do it and it's like there's another level there's more and then it's the montage
Starting point is 00:19:27 which rocks friendship montage yep and then it's like the goofy love stuff and it was starting to lose me at that point. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:19:36 That's what my feel was too, but they love stuff like, it's just, like, abandoned instantly once. Yeah, they just set it up, like, ready for the end, basically. Yeah. And, and then the dance scene. The courtyard dance scene, that, that, that, like, cemented it. Yeah. Like, from, from the start of that scene, I was, like, fully invested in the film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And was going to finish watching it no matter what. Okay. And then that music started and it was like, okay, now this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, it's gone on an awesome soundtrack, really fun. Yeah. I've never laughed so hard at a movie, like ever. Yeah, but it's the greatest, like, comedy I've ever seen. But also it's not like laughing at it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 No, it's absolutely laughing with it. Because it's like, you're laughing, but it's not like how bad it is. It's how, like, impressively they. they've like oh you've like really committed to this yeah yeah and like where it's taking it really seriously where it counts it's they just like perfected
Starting point is 00:20:45 the stuff that you that you want it to yeah well you're making these comparisons to jojo um and very it has it has jojo vibes of like being so serious that yeah the thing that's happening is so absurd that it's like and this is just this is just
Starting point is 00:21:03 minding me of jojua yeah It's the best comedic tone. Yeah, it's like just Gears of War, but like a little bit more absurd. Yeah, because I did think of Gears of War when I watched it the first time. Yeah, it just sounded like ridiculously over the top. But how it was straight, everyone's taking it. So the characters in the world they've created, this is the most, like, important thing. It's like Marcus and Dom.
Starting point is 00:21:26 It's like that duo. Yeah, yeah. But it's also like, it's clearly, like, inspired by things like Captain America, like and because it is kind of a superhero movie too yeah but like
Starting point is 00:21:38 just a totally they do it's not it's not trying to be do like lame action pieces where it's like oh they're so cool it's like
Starting point is 00:21:45 doing it like absurdly that makes it like even cooler yeah it's like just going that little bit extra on everything
Starting point is 00:21:55 yeah but like it's the it's willingness to like go goofy and like heartfelt mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:22:02 like with that dance scene it's like this is out of this is just tonally totally separate to like the rest of the entire movie but it actually achieves like making you care and believe about those two
Starting point is 00:22:19 characters like the most ridiculous thing just seeing that like it just makes you love them yeah that's the thing it is like heartfelt and earnest that is what carries it as those two main characters um personally i like i like raj the the fire guy he that that is my favorite part of the movie um where that character goes and like yeah he's that anime villain like he's so over the
Starting point is 00:22:49 top yes so capable um no like that has done promotions and stuff yeah the compound it's like really funny that that is like a straight up that's like mutina manga where you see the zooned up of the compound and then it's still and then it's just that yeah yeah with the like crazy over the top music that's like his theme and it just drilled it into it. Yeah that's what really made me fall for it
Starting point is 00:23:12 was that like the layers of conflict and like despite that runtime it does switch it like up. Yeah it not all in one location. Yeah it it feels like like six anime episodes like you're binge watching
Starting point is 00:23:28 yeah just loads of sort of the short stories yeah vignettes that were obviously they all come together yeah because I saw this director's previous movie Bahubali the beginning I swear you were talking about that ages ago yeah because I just found
Starting point is 00:23:44 it on IMDB had a high rating um we hadn't talked about Tolugu or Bollywood like type movies on Saldonika's for us let's see what Bahubali's all about I didn't really like it didn't connect with it um it was like
Starting point is 00:24:00 you can see the flashes of what makes this good but this is like consistent like it's always outdoing itself it's always kind of clear what's going on it's rooted in something you can like kind of understand whereas like Bahubali was like this like very mythical a bunch of like I've got no point of reference
Starting point is 00:24:19 where it's like it's all very like easy to understand innocent kid from a village is kidnapped their first are Yeah, the first hour Story And it's like, yeah How's Beam going to save his sister And then where's it go from there
Starting point is 00:24:36 And then, yeah Like the Just the action That's what really sells it Now it's just like that The last like true No Last like hour basically
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah When it gets to the whole prison stuff That you ain't expecting Where it's going And it's glorious Yeah Yeah and it It doesn't peak
Starting point is 00:24:57 Like halfway into the film It just keeps one-upping itself. Yeah. Yeah, where all the like action scenes are place and everything. They, like, complement what the story needs at that time. Mm-hmm. For whatever it's trying to achieve. Yeah, there's obviously a bunch of, like, dumb, silly stuff you should expect.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah, like, awful CG. But I thought. Animals in particular. Yeah. But also, like, the, what's it called when they're, like, setting up a... The establishing shops. Yeah, the establishing shops. Some of them look like Mary 64.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I think it's like a part of his charm to a certain extent. It is. It's just like a, I get it. When, when like I'm watching like Ant Man and they do an establishing shot and I'm like, well, that's just like real footage superimposed onto the CG.
Starting point is 00:25:47 It's nice to watch a movie where they're doing that, but they're not like trying to hide it. Yeah. It's like, this is a CG castle that they're in. So I almost respect. it more for that. Yeah. Because they put the effects and stuff
Starting point is 00:26:02 and the budget into like the places where it matters like the action scenes and stuff. Like the dance. Hmm. That's where they put that money and that's where it slaps. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It's beautiful. Yeah. It's just the right amount of everything. Yeah. If you had to like criticize stuff, what would you say? Oh. Oh, there's tons to criticize, I guess.
Starting point is 00:26:29 like the actual like logic and way like the story kind of flows like it doesn't make like any sense um but it's like it doesn't matter but yeah that's that's the thing like it really doesn't matter to me it's just a way to get to the next lit scene that's literally all it's therefore and that's how move that's that's like the ideal medium yeah that's ideal yeah what's it trying to do be like a fun action romp of like the epic scale and the like uh the betrayals and the everything you'd expect from this kind of you know like gladiator type epic thing yeah epic they just go epic they go hard give you everything you could ever want yeah so i think every flaw it has almost works in its favor to make it more yeah entertaining
Starting point is 00:27:23 with us all being i guess like ignorant of these films and what else exactly exists in the genre like um yeah it just comes across as more kind of like charming and uh yeah and i think like the the weird sort of pace it has and like the direction of the story where like you really don't know for a long time what it's really doing um i think that that's a good thing from like my perspective where a lot of the movies i watch are just like like the marvel movies and the local stuff like the more western films i think to see like a different perspective on like what they can do with an action film yeah yeah just like the world it creates the consistency of it
Starting point is 00:28:21 always outdoing itself like that music just laughing all the through. Yeah. It's like all the different type of laughs you could want. Laughing with it, laughing at it in certain points. Just like... And like belly laughs.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah, yeah. But just conceptualising some of this stuff and then having the balls to actually like take it to its conclusion. Yeah. That takes balls. Yeah. But like especially as it like escalates
Starting point is 00:28:56 towards the end it's like I wasn't expecting it to kind of go to that level you know and maintain it and then like wrap it all up nice and clean at the end yeah it just leaves you like so satisfied
Starting point is 00:29:11 mm-hmm yeah it's a satisfying me or this movie yeah and it like it's heartwarming I don't know it just it just left me feeling great yeah that's one of those it's fun f un F-U-N
Starting point is 00:29:27 F-U-R-R-N Furn That's the sequel Where they stop Hitler In World War II That would be seen R-R-R-H World War II
Starting point is 00:29:49 R-R-R-R-W-2 R-R-R-R-W yeah man yeah masterpiece go watch it if you have three hours to spare no even if you don't watch it anyway yeah you could like pause it halfway through go do a little no you don't no you don't pause it halfway through you you watch all of it but what if you do need to poop pause it and go poop pause it and go pee pee pee pee Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Drink that one, guys. Awful. Rise, roar. Eat pulp. What is pulp? Paper. I think I had a creatine dream last night. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:30:39 It had a creatine dream. So I was dreaming that I was just running around our town. Like, without a shirt on, you know, just classic dream. But you know, you know, when you're running, it's like left foot forwards, right arm forwards. No, I don't, I've never had that. Left arm forward, right arm forward. That's how you run, right?
Starting point is 00:31:03 So you're not like a giraffe where like... Your arms by your sides, that would be psycho running. No, I mean like, when you run, while your left foot is forward, your right arm is forward. Oh, I see what you're saying. Do you really do that, though? The last time I ran and I was doing the fucking crypto hands and Jackson. packet pocket like spinning the lungs bro yeah but what do you mean do you really do that do you actually why did you do that well so if you were to run you would just put your
Starting point is 00:31:36 arms down no just put them in pockets and then what if you don't have pockets you didn't come prepared to one did you why'd you hold them by your side that's crazy yeah that is crazy but but in my in my creating dream I kept getting like like confused about which arm to put forward so then it kept feeling weird and I was like and then some people looked at me
Starting point is 00:31:57 and I was like don't look at me and then I fell over and woke up there's a creatine dream a cream I guess I creamed last night
Starting point is 00:32:05 you know you creamed in your creatine dream damn fucking children don't touch I hate when I'm I see four-legged
Starting point is 00:32:16 animals walking well I guess like a giraffe well paisley giraffes are allowed to every corner of a tree I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Why, though? Their brains like go out of sink with their legs and then like they just get synced up walking like a little freak. Yeah. I don't know what they deal is with that. Just thinking,
Starting point is 00:32:43 just imagining her walk and it is just like why. It's like they can walk fine in a house but as soon as they get outside it's just like, oh. To like. left, two legs right. Two legs left.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Yeah, it doesn't look normal. I guess it is normal though, because if you look at Golden Tree of doing that, it's just like, oh, that's what they do. It's the normal for them. But they don't do it all the time. They kind of do, though. It's when they go out of whack, you know. Have you ever, like, seen someone who doesn't, like, know how to walk? Me.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Like, through, through no thought of their own, or through... fault of their own. I don't know. It's a hard thing to explain it. It looks like they're thinking too hard about walking. But they're capable of walking, but clearly their walk sucks. But like they're thinking, they're like actively stopping themselves from walking naturally. So they try and force something that just looks like really weird.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Have you ever like practice walking? Have you ever practiced your walk to try and nail down your walk? No. I think that's fake you shouldn't have to practice the natural thing you do No because you want to you want to like be able to be Scanned into the next Red Dad game No
Starting point is 00:34:02 That's a big one The rock style walk that you kind of just Intuitively start doing after You've played 200 hours of Red Dog Yeah Yeah like directly after you just start moving through the world Like it's A dead yeah
Starting point is 00:34:18 With that weird kind of like momentum physics thing But you we have momentum physics in the real world that's the thing I mean they didn't before Red Dead yeah they built physics for Red Dead or GTA 4
Starting point is 00:34:33 I guess no no I'm talking about the world we have physics so why would I thought physics was a video game thing what do you mean we have physics how can you like possess physics we have physics
Starting point is 00:34:56 you're looking at me like you just lost natu natu at here James Woodley's natu-nati No absolutely not You don't have the staying power for it I do come then let's go Neither of us can natu-natu Then why aren't we trying
Starting point is 00:35:10 Why don't we learn We should learn We should learn And I'll win 100% I'd win Alex should give up No I'd win No I've got
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm lightweight I can throw my body around Can we talk about the jar race again No that wasn't fair You You handicapped me By you putting your hands in your pockets And running like
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah Like a penguin No you made me laugh You know I can't run in by la We were all laughing. We were all laughing. Yeah, but I can't run while laughing. You can.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It was just the most, like, absurd thing. No, no, to be fair, it was stupid. Because we, why would you do a race on grass? Here we go, he's not, excuse me. No, this is no excuse. Why did we run around, like, a drainage area for the estate when there was a perfectly straight road right there? Because it was a perfect circle. No, but we weren't all running the same length.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Because we're all in different places. So, we weren't running the exact same. But you were slightly ahead. Yeah, because I got a good start. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:36:23 No, no. From memory, that is how we did it. No, no, we didn't. We were all, no, because the curvature wasn't that big. That's why I used to have done it on the road. So why are you complaining? Because if we were on the road, I would have won. You don't do a running race on grass.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You do it on the, the... I say it's one of the best places to do it on grass. Yeah, what do they play football on? A million pounds of maintained grass That is perfect And if it isn't perfect They don't play on it Hard mode would be on the beach
Starting point is 00:36:56 I'd win Because I got huge land anchors I can just use them to somersault me Across the sand So you know how It's like you know how on like Beach racing things They have those big big tires of like big spades
Starting point is 00:37:13 They're like my feet I've got that to launch myself But then it's like running with flippers on. Yeah, but it's more grip. But you got flippers on. Soft, soft, soft sand, bigger feet. You're the one making up soft sand then. More grip.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Soft sand, bigger feet. No, we should do it. Okay, let's drive to Brighton Beach and go for a waste. Brixton Beach? Brighton. Okay, then we have... Okay, then we have to do a swimming race. I can't swim. You can't do.
Starting point is 00:37:53 You just see what they do in RRR and just sink to the bottom and run. Yeah. I've completely forgot that that happened. Yeah. That's like a whole Simpsons joke. It's in Pirates of the Caribbean as well. Lots of sinking to the bottom and running. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:38:12 You know, just movies in media. mediums. Different mediums of medium. Dun-da-da-dum, dum-da-dum, dum-da-dum. See you after these. I mean, can you go get me more water, please, Jamie? Fuck off. Why are you incapable of doing things for yourself?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Because you're going downstairs anyway. Okay, I'm just going to Jen's walk out of the room. Not too well. Bye. Bear, buy Bear Bear Bear. I do declare buy Bear Bear Bear. Bear Bear shirts and mug available now. Check the description below.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Good afternoon, morning, evening, all night, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the second half of the show. Of the what? The show. Of the what? The show. The Jimmy Fallon show. Are we Jimmy Neutron, Jimmy Fallon, or Jimmy Kimmel?
Starting point is 00:39:15 well Jimmy Fallon I'm not even going to make a joke about that but it was Jimmy Neutron no there's another Jimmy you forgot about Jimmy Carter
Starting point is 00:39:27 yeah the UK's main Jimmy oh yeah I guess we head over to that suggestion thread where you can leave your own
Starting point is 00:39:40 questions first answer in sequential episodes does that make sense guys? Yes, of course. Does that make sense? Huh? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Well, let's do this really depressing one from deviated left nut. I've recently fallen out with a friend I've had for over a decade, and without going into detail, I can confidently say it's irreparable. To help me, I checked out the moving forward video and the episode we talked about Matt, joining the cult. These insights help me begin swallowing what's fresh happened but I feel quite pessimistic about my long-term life without this friend. If it isn't intruding too much, would you be able to go into how you all feel
Starting point is 00:40:23 all this time later after losing these friends and how you were able to move past long-term? I have no idea how I could do the same, but hearing your perspectives would help and guide me a lot. Please don't mistake this for prying into any drama. I don't think any of us want these details the actual reason or the actual reasons for the fallouts. I'd just like to hear your emotions back then and how you've changed now when you look back at the situation. um it was easy because they were bad people they genuinely it's like when someone's a bad or toxic person reviews that you don't agree with it's very easy to move on from them I think that's like a major oversimplification hmm like from my perspective mm-hmm it's like a
Starting point is 00:41:15 I don't like hate anyone that I like was friends with Yeah, I'm not saying I hate them Um But like I wouldn't I wouldn't go as far as to say Like any ex friends are bad people
Starting point is 00:41:33 Um It's Because then it's like what is a bad person No but I would definitely say one of them were. But if, if there's a possibility they have the, the flip perspective of like, I'm a bad person. But they probably do. Well, then, like...
Starting point is 00:41:58 It justifies you thinking they're a bad person. Yeah, it's like difficult to go into details with, but in my mind with the ones I've experienced as of lay, it was like, I lost a friend, but the reasons why the friendship fell apart. were as a result on their half of them being bad people so you can easily justify not being friends of them because it was like yeah this person is saying not very nice so therefore I'm not friends with them it's easier to move on from that because you've got all the justification you need
Starting point is 00:42:33 I don't even necessarily think about justification though no but it's just it's like justification for yourself but that's what that's more so how you have to think about because these things are going to happen um people drift apart relationships end they change just as fast as they begin they can end um you just have to think about it in terms of like how you think things got to that point and what you take away from it um and like yeah you can be you're allowed to be bummed out about it um yeah for sure but there is also a future outside of that and beyond that.
Starting point is 00:43:18 The pain is kind of, I guess, directly linked to how much of an effect they had kind of on your life and how much they were. Yeah. But I think that comes down to like a sense of self. Because if you're feeling pessimistic about your own future because of like this,
Starting point is 00:43:34 and obviously the easiest way to relate that is like a relationship thing, right? If you're now settling to like have a sense of self as a result of like a breakup, that's like an evidence of you, cling in your life and enjoyment too much to your partner or friend I don't think that's like inherently a bad thing it's not a bad thing
Starting point is 00:43:53 it's something that people can't control but it's like you only learn how to have a true sense of self after that's happened yeah it's like a learned thing becoming comfortable with your own life and your own yeah yeah like having that sort of space become just you like whatever space that person filled like that now has to
Starting point is 00:44:14 be filled by like another half of yourself and becoming comfortable with that other half yeah and the unfortunate kind of truth is that um the kind of what is brought out of you and what you're forced to face with um forced to face through kind of hardships like that is more so um that kind of shows people's true colors you know it's like a learning thing um so yeah that's what i'd say just think about it in terms of yourself if it's like if you think it's like an irreparable thing and it's done it's over you've got to start thinking about like i guess there's a future without this dynamic anymore like and that's sad you're allowed to be sad but it's also not the the end of everything either
Starting point is 00:45:13 yeah yeah and like the longer you live the more experiences like that you'll have yeah yeah it can be if it's like the deviate left nut
Starting point is 00:45:31 here saying it's like over a decade friendship so that's probably gonna sting a bit more than yeah it's just gonna it's one of those that will take time yeah six seven months it's just gonna have to
Starting point is 00:45:43 it's like the most obvious thing but it is true the time healing all wounds things I was saying this to Jenge just the other day
Starting point is 00:45:52 I was thinking about like I was really thinking about the things that I thought when I was like 17 what were important to me then contrasting it with me now
Starting point is 00:46:04 and just like the stuff that was in my head when I was 17 comparatively is like just nothing to me I don't even think remotely about like the same things really it seems so like small in comparison yeah saying that though I don't think I actually had thoughts when I was 70 yeah that's still a contrast
Starting point is 00:46:27 I don't think I developed the ability for thought like a couple months ago critical thinking that probably came at 26 Yeah, I'm not even there yet. I'm on the road. Well, let's switch from that then, from one kind of sad thing to something a little different kind of sad. In a bit more of a philosophical way, though.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Semen 002 says, Hello Beasts. When do you feel using real-life gore slash suicide recordings is acceptable in art? Some would say it's cool when it has an artistic and thematic purpose, but even then it's often not. receive well by folks. Example, I just killed a cop by J-Peg Mafia. Nothingness by Sua Sluvent.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Do you think they... Wait, what? Repeat the last one again. Nothingness by Suez Slovet. I'm not familiar with that one. Suea S-L-V-T. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Do you know that one? Now listen to their music. I'm just trying to think of the exact song they were referring, but I'm aware of the J-Peg one. And the question at the end was, do you think there can even ever exist cases when it isn't in bad taste? Is it in any way possible, cheers? Okay, from that, the two examples that were given, I was having listened to the JPEG song a lot, you can kind of tell that, yeah, that's an actual, probably live recording of a killing.
Starting point is 00:47:59 But I didn't, I wasn't aware of the sewer one being a suicide thing. And that's the thing. What's the context of, I don't know the JPEG one. It's like the start of the song It's where it's like You can just hear like a I think it's like a police thing Where then you just hear loads of gunshots Okay
Starting point is 00:48:15 And you like you can kind of tell that it's probably But the sewer one I've I've listened to the song But I never like picked up or knew that it was a live Recording and I think that's Artistically using it Because it that song especially in that album fits It's like the style of Suea's music So knowing that it is a suicide thing
Starting point is 00:48:38 doesn't really change how I view the music and I didn't know any better I've never I didn't know that was like a suicide thing right but it's obviously when it's like video form I think is a much bigger thing it's like actually using killings or suicide in like a video production trying to be artsy
Starting point is 00:48:56 I don't get that as much yeah where's the line though because I was I mentioned I think last episode or the episode before where on the Nat Geo section of Disney Plus I've been watching all these like documentaries about like World War II and obviously it's like what the most documented event in history and it's was one of the most horrific events in history so a lot of the like shots in these documentaries are I know that there's piles of bodies there's like lots of what I would describe as gall um but that's a documentary setting it's not um
Starting point is 00:49:34 that's trying to be factual yeah that's the thing is trying like a documentary is documenting something and it's being respectful in that like sure there's going to be like disrespectful documentaries but like something about world war two like there's there is like dramaticized documentaries about that but most of the time it's an educational thing of like because the end of the day i don't think you can actually take in anything of what happened in world or two without video footage because it's like the levels of the numbers we're talking about is so excessive that so if you see one frame of like an example of that you start to actually understand and I think that's so much evidence of it and there's so much of history that we don't
Starting point is 00:50:15 have all this for why would you not use it um because it just comes down to a documentary thing as if it's being used to try and educate people it's like there's a net good but like using gore clips for your artsy YouTube video is not like it's not education you're just being a little bit weird what about like art can be educational though yeah like i don't think art has to be educational for it to have no but what is some examples of educational art like i mean if if um i mean a lot of like killer mike stuff yeah but then that that but i think it gets blurry when it's like a music that they're making money off you know it becomes kind of confused like are you doing this to be like surprising so that loads of people listen to it and like you
Starting point is 00:51:09 generate money from it or because you're trying to make a statement yeah but it also what's the intent what is yeah what is it trying to say because I'm trying to think of like some movie examples and the other thing that's coming to my head is like do you remember the end of like black Klansman yeah I was just thinking the exact same thing but it doesn't necessarily show it doesn't show suicide from memory Not gore, it shows like violence, protesting, riots. It's not like showing bodies explode or whatever, but it's kind of, and it's not like expected.
Starting point is 00:51:46 It's like kind of a more loose sort of comedy, and that's more like a, I don't know, it's like a harsh reminder. Yeah, this is real footage now. Yeah. This is the point. Like this, yeah, this isn't like fun in games. This is like serious. horrifying um and that makes it like more effective and that that specifically did have an effect on me yeah like beyond just watching a movie for entertainment it was like well this has actually
Starting point is 00:52:17 shifted like the way i perceive this sort of yeah and the only one because of course like there aren't exactly like many movies out there that have like actual people being killed in them unlike there are like movies that have animals being like gone um apocalypse now with the cow cannibal holocaust with the turtle or whatever um that's it's a little bit different when it's like i don't know it's almost like veering into a different conversation at that form at that point i don't know like in a gallery if they were using like um um Um, I guess the word recordings, does it have to be like audio slash video? Can it like photographs of like, you know, refugees, people starving, war torn, war art, I don't know, man, like, what's the intent?
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah, that's, that's what it comes down to. Like, I think, like, if you stick it to like the context of the original examples, given being like JPEG, it is nothing more than like a vibe for the, the, the song. Like sampling, something on the news or whatever. Yeah, sampling a, like a killing. It's like, there's no, like, point trying to be made in his, like, I can't remember, but it's like... In the JPEG one? Yeah, it's more of like a vibe.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Same with the sewer one. It's a vibe. What's the song about, though? I generally can't remember off the top of my head. But I think with JPEG, it probably is more political because of him. But it's just like the sewer one. and it is like a vibe and it's like I didn't know that was a will thing I didn't know it was will so it's like I'm not going to see the the art any different as well I guess yeah I haven't
Starting point is 00:54:11 listened to either of these songs so I don't really know the context of those um I feel like if you are going to especially if you're going to use a suicide recording um that one's a little bit yeah I don't really know how you could spend that unless yeah there is some but then just considering if you then consider the back the background of that artist it's like it is to a certain extent like an extension of them and it is the art thing are versus artist it's like I know that I know the law of this this artist you're talking about sewer yeah because we've talked about it with thing so they sampled someone like a suicide recording I judging board that comment says yes but I've listened to the song I didn't know it was
Starting point is 00:55:00 one what does it like sound like in the song I can't remember that's the thing it's just like it's it's like drum and bass that's their music is very like drum and bass jungle kind of suicide wave yeah I think you like if you're doing that with your other you should not be surprised that it's going to be controversial yeah I think that that's fair enough there's always just a line with it I think yeah and everyone's got their own personal one I guess um there were a few questions about Lightfall, which I kind of wanted to throw out there. Band of Tocare 1,2, 3, 456 said,
Starting point is 00:55:39 Lightfall's been released and it seems to be a huge step back from Witch Queen in just about every regard. What do you guys think of it so far? New Jogginot replied to that saying, looking forward to hearing about this too. Seems what was originally Lightfall a few years ago is now the final shape, and this current lightfall is just filler. Even Strand was meant to be a part of Witch Queen. I like the question said what we think, as if me and Jim would touch.
Starting point is 00:56:03 and uh goldfish 7740 says this one is for alix have you played any of the destiny two lightfall campaign and what are your impressions as it stands at the time of writing this community the community is immensely disappointed by the writing what i find pretty funny though is that it's the type of writing that destiny has always had with the one exception being witch queen i think it's hilarious that the game's fans are finally turning on bungee and the narrative team now even though it's been consistently shit for almost a decade now lull thoughts um Destiny players, I've been on the, I said this same sentence for like four or five years. You have Stockholm syndrome. Stop playing the game. They're whipped. You can leave the goon hole. The goon is not forever. You just have to have self-value and self-respect.
Starting point is 00:56:51 They're stuck in the sunken cost fallacy, you know? It's like, well, I'm playing it for nearly 10 years. It's almost like the sunken time fallacy. Yeah, that's probably a gun I need to unlock by next research, actually. um yeah uh when we were sat downstairs earlier waiting for feud um you like chucked on a compilation of some of the cutscenes looking for all the nimbus moments it was all the cutscenes it was every cutscene yeah um what did you guys think of what you saw i'm curious embarrassing yes it's a straight up like like it it it struck me as like the storytelling is for children yeah and i'm not talking like see bbys i'm talking see babies yeah you know it's like in the night garden pepper pig yes no no that's that's a disservice to pepper pick i i i genuinely like that you i i could i i thought the old destiny stuff was like cringy yeah and like
Starting point is 00:58:00 That's storytelling. Like, Yeah. Like, they took this... I don't have time to explain while I don't have time to explain. They took this beautiful, like, aesthetic and art direction and, like, made it cringy through dialogue and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah. But now it, now it doesn't even have the art direction side. It's just cringe. You're in, like, a, some neon 80s. Cyberpunk. It's just like... Yeah, it's kind of cyberpunk. It's more like Tron.
Starting point is 00:58:24 No, I think it's quite cyberpunk. It's not cyberpunk. It's not cyberpunk. there's none of the grind you know tron tron is technically cyberpunk it's too it's just like destiny technically is cyberpunk oh if anyone calls like getting cyberpunk i'm going to won you over no because it's not cyberpunk it's too like fantasy as well yeah it's too cringe like the no but cyberpunk can be cringe name you something that's cyberpunk that's cringe Ron.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Yeah. Technically not cyberpunk though. No. You just said it was. Technically it is. Technically they all can I guess. Yeah. Technically fucking Moulan is Cyberline. No, but it's... I love Milan. Moulin rocks. You're so good. It's a new type of bad fit. I can't believe they've actually
Starting point is 00:59:17 like, they turned over every rock like looking for the shit things they could like whip out and they turned them all over but they actually turned out there was one rock. they hadn't found yet and we're reinventing ways to be shit we're reinventing things
Starting point is 00:59:31 that we've never even thought about you know what right as we're building to this crescendo that we put all this seasonal work into this whole campaign the witch queen where we're like building up to this thing and teasing this antagonist
Starting point is 00:59:43 that's supposedly been there the whole time in the background yeah light falls when light's gonna fall and it's gonna get serious and it's kind of like like the Avengers Infinity War low point before the
Starting point is 00:59:58 that's like how they that's how they advertised it that's how they were talking about it yeah like when they first revealed lightfall it was like this like doom and gloom logo it's like black and white it looks like imposing and serious and then like three months later
Starting point is 01:00:13 you got the Nile Kauai hey guys it's Lightfall reveal time and it all like switches to like 80s neon it's actually this like weird homage to 18's camp Nice to Tron It's like what
Starting point is 01:00:27 What the What are you doing Yeah Who is Nimbus The The Cloud Striders might be the lamest thing Ever added to any video game world When you first
Starting point is 01:00:40 Take a picture of them I was like Oh is this any Fortnite's skin Because this is what it looks like Yeah For what I think it's too lame To even being Fortnite
Starting point is 01:00:48 No no Fortnite is lame Destiny's in Fortnite already Yeah The stranger is in Fortnite The stranger God that's reaching That for such like a money making IP
Starting point is 01:01:01 It's got like no Identity It's got no identity It doesn't have like any sort of mascot There's nothing It does have a mascot The fact that everyone knows it shit That's like that's its identity
Starting point is 01:01:16 It is shit It's got more of an identity than Halo is at the moment honestly what what destiny is pisses me off more than what halo's become
Starting point is 01:01:31 really yeah because I'm more upset by Halo personally because at least destiny is a new thing that like has always kind of been like a problem no but it was bungee it was but they were the guys you know there's not even hope for like bungee
Starting point is 01:01:45 to like if somehow they like went and made a halo Right It would just be shy It would just be destiny Yeah But like Yes it is
Starting point is 01:01:56 Weddy Yeah We just got to be okay With a certain point of like Bioware made good games Just in this time period And then just forget about it Why did you make good games
Starting point is 01:02:06 In this time period Forget about it No that's what I mean Like developer doesn't mean anything It's the development team It's who the people It's who's involved Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:14 Miazaki You know It doesn't matter what It's like Cod with Infinity Ward But Infinity World aren't Infinity Ward No, they're just a different... Infinity Ward is was respawn
Starting point is 01:02:25 Yeah And hence why the two respawn games were nutty For three, four Yeah, Star Wars included Yeah But I was saying this to James this morning As far as like, for all his concern Like
Starting point is 01:02:39 The community is whipped, yeah And the story has been just bad For the majority of Destiny content But there's never been a pushback like this Like when Destiny 2 came out and had that awful story mode that sucked, people were like happy because in contrast to what had been in that franchise, the standard, technically that was an improvement. Still bad, but it was an improvement on what came before.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Like there was more meat on the bone, I guess. And this is the first time I guess they're taking a step back as far as what they'd built up and the expectations they had established. It is a real state though. Like in their last, like, weekly update, they had to, like, reveal, oh, uh, because the whole story's based around this mcuffin that they never actually explain what it is. All the characters act like, they know what it is and, like, they understand what this thing is. But it's never actually, like, addressed at all. Um, and in this weekly update, Bungi were like, oh, next season, there's going to be a quest for everyone who owns Lightfall that's going to really delve into what the veil is.
Starting point is 01:03:47 that's that that's not how that is bullshit yeah um that's not how you do it man so then it's like oh like okay so you've had all these excuses in the past right destiny one was this weird experiment it had the the behind the scenes drama the game being like remade again and again again then like kind of squirted out in a year and then everything they kind of made before that like jerry rigged into the content that trickled out after that but now i guess that trickle has ended all of the like all of the years they put into pre-production and like designing all these worlds and this concept art and these enemies all of that is spent so now they're making new stuff for this universe and the new stuff is reskinned their enemies a new environment that sucks
Starting point is 01:04:42 and doesn't totally fit a new faction of humans that like just appear out of nowhere aren't guardians have like a different it's like it's like opening a portal to a different game and like just going into like a different game it's so bizarre they never address anything just act like everyone is like these clouds shadow guys like everyone's just kind of like just on good terms like they're just working together like there's no I really I was like when I first played Lightfall I was like this cannot be as sincere as it's coming across there has to be like something that's going to happen i i really thought like after a few levels that it's going to turn out these were like
Starting point is 01:05:27 agents of the witness or something and they were like messing with us and they turn out to be some like villains but that's that's too that's too much to happen um i don't i actually don't think they're capable of whipping out something like cool and fun like that um at this point but yeah the witch queen was pretty good and it had like had like a story that like you could understand and it like fleshed out like a faction of
Starting point is 01:05:53 like your enemies the crusty guys yeah the crusts yeah the crusts and made them kind of cool really good art design so oh that's glorious
Starting point is 01:06:07 gives you headaches it aren't yeah the game does but you know just the art looks pretty yeah doesn't anymore lightful Yeah, I can't say you've convinced me to give it a go, Alex.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I'm going to be honest. The thing that it feels like, though, for me as an outsider, is like, well, I... I heard from a lot of sources, witch queen. Yeah. Like, that was actually, like, good. Like, a good game. But now that this new one's out, it's like, well, I'm never even going to give that a go, because, like... Well, it makes it seem like, oh, so is witch queen the exception to the rule?
Starting point is 01:06:44 It's not the new rule. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's just, oh, you just happen to get it working as once. Hmm, for this one thing. It was, like, one thing I really loved with the witch queen was they added this legendary difficulty. It was like that I've always kind of had issues of playing solo destiny.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Like, the difficulty never feels quite right. It's either way too easy or just so hard that it's not even fun to attempt. But they had that, like, right level. It felt kind of nice and balanced. And this new one, this lightful campaign, the legendary mode. the whole story of the game is just you getting this strand ability that's the whole story but they do this thing where it's not like you unlock the new ability
Starting point is 01:07:26 and then you can customize it it's like curated moments where you get to use it for a little bit but where that becomes an issue with the legendary mode is that like your build and everything you've made up to that point becomes irrelevant when you're like thrusted into these moments where you've got to use this ability you've got no control over
Starting point is 01:07:46 and the whole ability's entire gimmick is about you flinging around the place being out of cover which is like the complete inverse of what destiny is normally doing so it's like switching up the gameplay entirely everything is like just destroying you because you're on legendary mode it was just not a good experience whereas like on witch queen it felt like oh I'm stuck on this one bit change a weapon up change like the arrangements of things oh I can get through it now But it was just like Yeah It was like really frustrating
Starting point is 01:08:19 It felt like Halo 2 Like just just bullshit You know At points Not good Let's do a couple more here More drama 4470 left this And there are a couple
Starting point is 01:08:38 Comments or Questions left in regards to to this because we very briefly last episode mentioned the concept of cosmetic surgery. We were kind of rutting it off, I guess. Hey Mingers, I wanted to comment on the discussion about cosmetic surgery. I believe cosmetic surgery can be a slippery slope, but for many it could save lives. As a trans woman, one of my goals is to save up for a brow reduction surgery when I'm 23. Cosmetic surgery could help people like me feel like our true selves more than anything.
Starting point is 01:09:12 while I do believe cosometic surgery is done by many that won't end up not being satisfied it's a goal for people like me that will help me keep me safe in my conservative area I live in while also getting rid of much of my dysmorphia I thought it had a unique perspective as this is a topic I'm very interested in game on mingers I'm in a complete agreement now I think that's no I I do agree and I think like even beyond that people with like who have been in serious accidents or even
Starting point is 01:09:49 George here I had a good like example saying um jar jar bear Aussie psych student here in regards to the cosmetic surgery discussion is actually been found to be one of the only things that can have a life lasting impact on happiness outside of genetics and medication specifically surgeries that target breast reduction or enlargement and nose jobs were shown to correlate with lasting increases in self-reported happiness. However, it's important to note that these instances are also highly correlated to women reporting pre-existing issues of self-esteem and body image.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Although the surgery can be beneficial, it doesn't do anything to address this body image epidemic, and the people unable to afford such treatment. Yeah, so it's like the mentioning nose, obviously, because this, I've obviously got one of those noses, which is typically what people get adjusted. I've had people tell me constantly that I should get a nose job. It was a constant, consistent bullying thing I got in second week's school.
Starting point is 01:10:46 It was about my nose. Just kind of messed up. And if what happens if I did, I'd be fucking, I'd want to kill myself right now if I got, if I got any surgery. But that's, that's a thing. It's just like certain people, it's going to benefit them. I think people who don't, like, have more, like, issues with themselves, like me, I would say. If I did that, it would just be a slippery slope because now it's like, you know, something else is going to get, like, I'm going to get a bully for something else.
Starting point is 01:11:12 or, you know, what not. There's positives and negatives to it. It just depends on who is doing that. And, yeah, of course, if you have some form of dysmorphia or breast reduction, like, that can really provide a lot of relief for some people. Like, that can really, like, fuck you up. Like, hurt your spine and, yeah, really. But I think it's like a larger thing's way, for, like, example,
Starting point is 01:11:36 like a lot of the body issues people can have can come a result of bullying, and the way when you're young again, you're reared into, like, body dysmorphia and everything. So it's like if, if it's that bullying which has made you have the surgery, it's bullying that's done that, and that's like your view of yourself forged by the abuse of others when that's just bad people.
Starting point is 01:12:02 And it's a case of instead of looking... Yeah, instead of looking at surgery, I think, in a way, it's like acknowledging... where the bullying had an impact on you as a child, as opposed to just jumping to fix something that you were made to feel conscious about by bad people, but are people going to do with it differently? But I just think it's like,
Starting point is 01:12:25 if it is something to do with bullying as a child, it's like I think it's worth working on that instead of jumping to surgery. But that's just from my view, having experience bullying related to my body, you know, that's my view on it. Because you shouldn't, yeah, you shouldn't feel,
Starting point is 01:12:41 need to change um something like that you know like your nose or whatever just because of some yeah like racist connotations really yeah i think as well a big issue with it is like the trend chasing like the kim kardashian sorry getting like bBLs and shit and then It's not trendy. Or like, is it Ariana Grande that, like, always kind of, like, changes race? Yeah, she changes race with the season. Like, wherever it's going to protect her from the weather. That I say that that's like, it's like, yeah, if we're talking LA, that's what you, that's it.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Yeah, that's what we're good. But it's just like 0.0.001% of the population is like such a small minority of, like, trend changes. I think, I think. It does have a big influence on wider people as well. of people who have access to cosmetic surgery are these people. Yeah, to a certain extent. I mean, like, we can't just walk up to a surgery and be like, fix me. It does bleed out of LA, though, because these people are like the trend setters.
Starting point is 01:13:55 So then you do, like, you see people like just on the bus. Yeah, but now that it's not like if you're in LA, you see all these people and feel bad about yourself. Now it's like you open any social media. Yeah, I'm sure that's part of what makes. it's so toxic to live in that environment there. Another good example I know is like an underbite. That's like a conscious thing that people have.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I have an underbite, but obviously my jaw is fucking huge that you can't see it. But it's like people who have an underbite are very conscious about that. And it is, I'm pretty sure from what I know, everyone who gets underbite surgery, that's like instant happiness. Because it is just that type of conscious thing you're worried by yourself. So that's not
Starting point is 01:14:35 as a sort of bullying or what it could be. but that's one of those where it's like there's no net negatives, it's all net positives but it's like a unique thing so a new case of body adjustment but it's just like yeah there's a lot of nuance to it I guess but naturally if like you're healthy and you're not conscious about yourself
Starting point is 01:14:54 don't get surgery I'd say that's the avenue to chase first self-acceptance but like that's what it should always be at a goal yeah like I would I would absolutely you go for fat ass
Starting point is 01:15:08 a BBL but that I'm insecure about that because I'm friends of you two so it's just like I'm just like you're saying you would you would get a BBL is that what you just said?
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah but instead I'm just going to work for instead Chains would look kind of fire with the BBL yeah you fucking would you could start like
Starting point is 01:15:29 hot tub streaming for us oh my God yeah imagine the the just no I just I just that's why it's like when I can
Starting point is 01:15:37 gym or regularly it's just gonna be ass and nothing else I gotta work for that BBL I can't just make me happen anytime someone donates on the stream
Starting point is 01:15:46 you've got to stand up and get out the tub and turn around and put something on something yeah that's the strat that's how you make the mega bucks
Starting point is 01:15:55 and now that the basically the we got the wax set up in the gym it's perfect for squating I'm gonna fucking squat that shit all day if you squat with a BBL
Starting point is 01:16:06 can it like explode it probably but I'm not going to get a BVL because I'm just going to do squats instead and get a far-ass and only that so what I'm going to do I don't give a shit about anything else
Starting point is 01:16:17 you're up man I'm jealous of your jeans I'm not wearing jeans your genes you're the only leaves of us are wearing jeans G-E-N-E-S Geans
Starting point is 01:16:34 right um actually this is yeah this is a penultimate one but then we got a good one to end on uh because it's so this is a bad one no this one is good it's less of a question more of um like in it just asking about these cans um but the the last one is going to be so disgusting and it's so vile i kind of want to have like
Starting point is 01:17:00 an ending that you can like clean are off before going into the vial. Okay, go then. Shoot, shoot, shoot. What was that? That was like the most powerful swallow. I hope that was picked up on the mic. Kung Thuleu says,
Starting point is 01:17:20 Hello, Jar Jha Ling's. I recently realized that whenever the boys drink a bottled beer on the cast, the bottles look huge. Now I'm confused if the UK has bigger bottles or the boys are just rather short. Anyways, I was wondering how tall you are and if your height has any
Starting point is 01:17:34 influence in your life reading online it seems like that's a thing that makes many men insecure I'm quite tall and haven't had any noticeable benefits from it besides reaching high places better hope this question isn't too weird much love for the cast and a hearty bear bear from Germany oh tia I'm gonna say he's not gonna be around to hear that question there's there's no benefit for being tall you live in England so every every house in the country size a cottage and that means you can't get up the fucking stairs every a lot of places I go into are back my head Virginia's tool guy cope I don't want to this this is what every tool guy does
Starting point is 01:18:16 no no no no what you mean how have you ever sat on a plane oh have you ever sat in the back of a car no but I'm not tall are you I'm 5-9 I'm like you're not 5-9 fuck off are you for James is not What am I then? You're not 5.9. You're like 6 foot. No, I'm not. I'm like 5.9.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Maybe 5.10, if that. Dude, you're not. No, I'm not. If you're 59, I'm fucking 5T. There's a reason why, because obviously, with dating apps, you have to put your height in. Just lie? Yes, I put 59. I don't know my height.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I just put 59. So that's what I am going forward. Dude, you're saying yourself, sure. You're literally not 59. You put that up. like two inches and suddenly you're literally everyone is not like no it's just like that's like that's crazy you're like what you mean no one does that every every guy the opposite yeah everyone gabbing itself one puts like at least six foot yeah but then it's
Starting point is 01:19:25 just like you're gonna go on a date with someone who puts six foot and they're not six foot you're gonna go there but they're not going to come with a fucking ruler they can have a measure. Yeah, but like, if someone cares about, if someone cares about height, they're only going to find disappointment in the people who lie about it. But if, if a dating app requires you to put that information in, then you fucking lie. Yeah, I'm lying by underselling myself. Yeah, but that's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:50 But what's the, there's not, that's, that's a green flag. To lie about your height. Yeah, then undersell your height. It's like, nobody's going to get upset if you put 5'9 in your 6. Who's actually going to get upset? some people might oh you're taller than I expected night and poor
Starting point is 01:20:08 what difference did that make it's just all the own because some people like are obsessed with that shit I know but they care about tall tall not height is what they care about those people care about six foot onwards no but what if someone's like oh finally a guy that's under six foot
Starting point is 01:20:23 and then you turn up you're six nine but what if they were like potential people who were like they would have swiped right on you but then why would I want the James is filtering them out why would I want them why would I
Starting point is 01:20:39 what if that's just like their preference that's just like what they like then it's racist no but why would I don't swipe left or white based on my preference it's just like I can only swipe right just close your eyes and just like
Starting point is 01:20:54 let's go no but it's just like I don't care about height but at the same I don't care about height but it's like I've come into more like issues because of my height than I have disadvantages No no no advantages
Starting point is 01:21:14 Like the only benefit I have to being tall Is that I can reach things But like how often am I going to the shops to reach things Yeah But how often are you like Disadvantaged that was appointment at my job I was sitting behind the supporting beam of the building
Starting point is 01:21:36 and I swam out my head on it every day It's just a physical pain That sounds like not learning from Yeah that is actually more like me being thick Like I have hit my head on things I keep doing it I don't know what it is Universal disadvantage
Starting point is 01:21:53 No but it's just like The main thing is like cars when I'm working on cars it's like kneeling it's like your car for example it's low down
Starting point is 01:22:04 like bending over fucking up your back just to be able to like undo something is pain bending over is just kind of awkward I don't think especially for like the height
Starting point is 01:22:15 you guys are pretty much the same height no Alex is taller it's really hard to tell because both of your hair just grows like margin my hair gives me like four inch
Starting point is 01:22:24 yeah yeah your head stops like that yeah um it's just like height is just superficial well yeah speaking going back to cosmetic surgery if i could get um spine and longerman then do you know there are people that actually go to yeah they stretch themselves like whether i can't remember what country it was but it's somewhere that will do it where they basically like they like break your legs and then like stretch your shit and then rebuild them as stretched and then rebuild them stretched yeah that's horrible just to get like two inches or something two three inch
Starting point is 01:23:02 that's really bad where was this place but the irony is like they're doing it to try and be this like hyper masculine mega army man but then you can't walk you can't lift anymore yeah you can't be the masculine they want it's like the the episode of south park where where kyle gets who's it's car's dad because comes a dolphin yeah but his balls someone's balls gets put into someone's knees Kyle gets turned into like a black basketball player yeah that's also like yeah but but but isn't the thing with height it's like a masculinity thing it's like people who think that being taller is more masculine it's one of those like uh black pill things where it's like
Starting point is 01:23:49 if you don't if you're not the six foot seven chad with the chiseled jaw line if you're not Dr. Disrespect. Yeah. He's six for eight. He's fucking huge. It's horrifying. Yeah, he's six. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Like, if you see photos of him, like, meeting fans, he's like two humans stacked on top of it. No, actually, I have a good disadvantage,
Starting point is 01:24:14 but it depends on the person. Have you experienced this, Alex, that you're taller than the bedding? Oh, yeah, so your feet always stick out. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:24:24 That's just like a problem Yeah That's just like I'm just kind of used to it though now Yeah But that is like a genuine Jesus face My silk bedding is just
Starting point is 01:24:39 Too short for me It's such tall guy shit What do you mean? It's like a genuine thing I get On my toes get a big hole Let's shut up for the record
Starting point is 01:24:56 I am the same height as Tom Cruise and look at him Tom fucking Cruz I think I'm taller than Robert Downey Jr he's like tiny but it pisses me off this is something that really pisses me off
Starting point is 01:25:11 in films right there's a scene in one of the latest Avengers movies like where Iron Man dies or whatever and Chris Evans who is like the same height as you guys is standing face to face with Robert Downey Jr.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And they're the same height. So Robert Downey Jr. had to put like stilettos on. They probably just whipped the brick out and had him stand on brick. Yeah, but it's like, why? Like, that's perpetuating the thing. No, but that's the thing in movies, though, a lot where, like, the eyelines have to match up.
Starting point is 01:25:45 And if the unintentional humor if, like, Chris Evans was, like, framed in a certain way he was, like, looking down on Iron Man, And then there's all these other, like, implications. But he's Iron Man. His whole thing is that he gets in a robot to be good at... Well, it's like, um, isn't, uh, Tom Hardy actually shorter than Christian Bale or something? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 01:26:03 But just the way they, like, shot him as Bain. No, I thought that was explained in the, in Iron Man. The Iron Man suit is the same high as Griffesvins. Doesn't mean Bobbitt Downey Jr. has to be. No, if you look at the movies. To be I don't like them, I'm sorry. Have you seen that, that... I think it was from when they filmed, um, the Irishman.
Starting point is 01:26:21 there's like footage of one of it might not be the Irishman it's like a Robert De Niro stood next to another actor and I can't remember which one of them but they've got these like these like normal shoes platforms but they've got huge platforms on
Starting point is 01:26:37 and it's just really weird because like when a man is like talking to a woman in a film he will like always be portrayed as taller you know it's not about like It gets more complicated, though, with movies and stuff, because where you place and stage
Starting point is 01:26:57 that actors can, like, say something in and of itself. Like, um... Yeah. There's that scene in Godfather 2, where there's that guy's on the chair, and he's like, you can't get up, and it's like, a visual metaphor for, like... Alpachino's, like, standing over it.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Yeah, yeah. So it's like... Because he tried to kill him. Yeah. Yeah. Spoilers, I've not seen it. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:20 But to be honest, I mostly brought up this question because I want to talk about these really giant cans that we have here. Yeah, that's the thing. Because I guess Americans don't have this. Do they have pints? No. What does a guy in the Everglades go in order at the bar if they want? I get a leader of... They have like Coke can sizes.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Yeah, does they have like... Give me a leader of bud light. Normal cans aren't pines. This is like a recent thing. It is a kind of a new thing where in the UK you can just buy an entire pint in a can. Yeah, and I think it absolutely rocks. Yeah, it's really cool. It's the best thing that's happened to cans in a while.
Starting point is 01:27:57 I'm not, I'm an anti-pint can kind of guy. How can you be anti-pint can? Because I can't finish a single lager, pint. Well, don't drink it then. I don't. I know. It's a problem to me because, no, it's a problem to me because whenever you have one of my beers,
Starting point is 01:28:14 you drink like a quarter of it and then just leave it somewhere. True. Yeah, no, but also the bottles that they're talking about must be those giant, you can get like three for five-fifty ones. Yeah, and they're an entire pint as well, aren't they? Yeah, they're more than. They're like, the big, like the ones I had when we were watching RRO. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, big.
Starting point is 01:28:39 So if they're thinking that, like, we're that small, we're thinking of one of those, and it's a normal. We're actually fucking hobbits over here. Yeah. No. No, we just got the correct beverage receptacles over here. Yeah, we don't do much right over here, but this is one thing. Yeah, because it's consuming drugs. Yeah, it's like the only legal drugs we can access.
Starting point is 01:29:05 That and poppers. Which is like the most jar-like thing. Poppers are related to gunning. Beer, poppers and cigarettes. And creatine. And creatine. Now that's a fun combo right there. Right, guys, it's time to end this with the one I was building up a few minutes ago by saying how disgusting it is.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Terrible Eggplant, 492 says, hello, my little grotto beasts. That's a new one. I came to you with a tale of my mate in the military that will certainly tickle your giggle holes. Never call it that again. He was working as a dog handler and had received an urgent. request to come help clean the bathroom and a following disciplinary action. Apparently over the years, the soldiers had been whacking it so often in the bathroom that they'd created some kind of cum mandrake that had formed when water and cum in the pipes
Starting point is 01:30:09 interacted with tree roots and were beginning to damage the building structural stability. It all ended when he pulled out a two meter tall cum-soaked root from the bathroom wall and they had to rebuild the tiling. The commander had ordered all the soldiers to find other outlets to let out their frustration as they didn't want any
Starting point is 01:30:32 more Spunk Drake's being made. Long-time man of the cast and thanks to helping me through some really rough times. Spunk Drake. I don't remember reading about that in Harry Potter. botany class I mean I believe it
Starting point is 01:30:57 oh I believe it but I also think it's kind of like me and Russ like what do you expect these guys to be doing yeah yeah yeah they the military should pay for flashlight yeah they can be like next to their pistol holster
Starting point is 01:31:12 like it should be part of the routine you know like when you like clean your boots and make your bed and you're like spinning your gun around and then it's like there's like
Starting point is 01:31:21 there's like a really strict timer where you're allowed to use your fleshlight but if it's if it's all if the sergeant comes along and like
Starting point is 01:31:35 and you've like dismantled your fleshlight and like he perfectly cleaned every inch of it he like picked it up and he's like
Starting point is 01:31:45 and he's like It's like before going to bed, they stand by the bed, it's like, fleshlight check. Oh, Jesus. Full metal jacket would have ended differently if they had fleshlights. I think every wall would be very different if every... Yeah, they should start dropping flashlight care packages on like... Yeah. Just like...
Starting point is 01:32:09 All sorts of sex toys. It's a definitely way to pacify the popular. yeah it's a tanga care package maybe that that could be like a tactic used against the enemy just trying to get them like it's a care package full of poppers and this is crazy the next day they just get annihilated
Starting point is 01:32:33 in war that's the sigh up of the center Suckoo drys, just send them loads of sucky drys. I'll never get over sucky dry. I don't, though I've been ever since I've been fucking missing. Suck you dry. Oh, is that why it's sucky? Yeah, sucking you dry.
Starting point is 01:33:06 And it's like a vampire. Can you break down that phrase for me? Sucking someone dry. What is that to say? Like the vacuum, but like saying, I'm gonna suck you dry. Yeah, suck you dry. No, but if I was gonna suck you dry, what does it mean the dry bit? Is it the irony?
Starting point is 01:33:24 Well, I guess it's like a, suck you dry? Is it the, the, like, cum is wet, and if you're suck dry, you're all out of cum. Yeah, yes, you're sucking out all the gum. Really? I was interpreting it more as like an ironic thing where it's like, I'm actually going to do the opposite. Yeah, like it's actually going to be. sloppy. Well, no, but I guess
Starting point is 01:33:47 it's a vampire, so it's like, they're going to suck your blood. You drop the suck-u-dry, but. Just the phrase-sug-you-dry. You know, that phrase. Just the concept of being sucked dry. Well, yeah, but they, this, like, the whole thing with vampires in, like, history is
Starting point is 01:34:05 they suck all of the blood. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha. No.

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