JAR Media Posdact - Jim is WRONG, makes Batfleck SNAP
Episode Date: October 28, 2024https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Find us on Spotify and iTunes under: "Jar Media Posdact" Find the original episodes under: "The JARChive" Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter:... https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecode: 00:00 Intro 07:33 Housekeeping 18:07 Extensive Elden Ring Lore Conversation (Boss Spoilers for Base Game) 36:30 Mid Break 37:12 Edgar Wright 'George Lucas'ing His Film 39:13 Arkham Origins - 11 Years Later 44:40 Conspiracies in YouTube Shorts/Tiktoks 53:17 Jim Roller Chair Doc 55:11 (Irony/Insincerity Epidemic (Minor Deadpool 3 Spoilers) #BroCast30
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Oh, bloody.
Do you think?
Well, we're in the Halloween scary month, so things will be getting bloody.
I was in a pub today.
Oh, yeah.
And it said booze and boos.
Ah, B-O-O-O-S and B-O-Z-E.
Or Z-E.
Boos and Boos.
And I looked at it and I thought,
Yeah.
You know what?
That's a funny one to start the day.
Yeah.
I mean...
Or the afternoon.
Or evening or night.
Oh, we forgot to change the number.
Oh, well.
It's 292.
How about that?
Hang on.
As if the numbers are related to anything anyway.
Am I right? Am I wrong? Am I scaring you?
Sorted. There we go.
Episode 92 of the broadcast. Welcome to episode 92 of the broadcast.
I'm your host Alex joined by Jim.
I'm your host Jim joined by Alex.
Do your best impression of me. Do your best impression of me.
No, actually try. No, actually try.
No, try harder than that. Try harder than that.
Wait, no, let me do that one again.
Try harder than that.
Oh, you're saying I say my T's more?
You saying I say my T's more?
I'm going to say I say my T's more?
Do an impression of me then?
Do an impression of me then?
No, a proper impression of me.
No, a proper impression of me then.
Then me a proper impression of?
Oh, God.
Too many layers.
Too many layers.
Like a Photoshop document.
layer one layer two change the transparency on layer three is that a technique i don't know
maybe Photoshop frightens me visual visual
frighten you're frightened by visuals you're saying yeah I'm frightened by Halloween
why do you think I don't partake you do yeah but only for the scare is
Like, I like becoming scare
You like
Being the scaur
I dress up and then I just go around
Like
You know, just
At people
Not even looking for a trick, not even looking for a treat
More like a
Mischief
Hmm
Like, um
Like
Michael Myers
Or Freddy or Jason
Yeah
Or any number killer
Well bro
We got some things to talk about today
Why?
You don't have to if we don't want
We have total freedom
We can do what we want
What the producers have
Unclenched their fists
It's Halloween so I finally dealt with them
If you know what I'm saying
I asked them
Hey J.R. producer, trick or treat?
Did they get tricked or treated?
Let's just say
they got a form of trick
that they might not be coming back from.
That's quite explicit.
Before we get too deep into the show,
let me shout out of the JAR media patrons
over at the Patreon.
They make the audio version of the show possible.
But that's not all.
They get that raw, unfiltered, spicy MP3.
Raw.
Raw.
Ra.
Yeah, that's up on the Patreon.
Normally a few hours early as well on the day that I chucked that one up there.
As well as Ja after hours on Patreon.
The sort of 10, 15 minute after moment.
if there's a few questions that are running long or something that just feels right.
Like today we're going to do one, a little discussion on Shadow of the Erd Tree, I finally finished it.
It's not going to be locked away to Patreon forever just for a few weeks until there's a bit of a backlog.
Months or years.
Months or years, yes, yes.
And of course, last but not least, the JAR Media Group chat, an ongoing chat with the Jarlings where they can,
before I record
I'll put a message out there saying hey
anything we should talk about today
and they will supply
straight to the veins
the scary Halloween veins
you know
does that make sense? Does all that makes sense
sometimes I sound a little bit crazy
when I hear myself alone
I think
relatively yes
do you think I should compliment it with a little
Yeah
thing is it's like a chucky type a chucky i was trying to do my joker that would be my joker laugh
ha ha ha ha ha yeah that's pretty good actually you could be an injustice or something
oh the injustice joker yeah what would your joker laugh be
I'd um I'd I go
just a joker that goes
yeah
just does a little snort out of his nose
no I go
oh
it's more like the snide
the snide joker
I
I keep getting that clip
from the Justice League where Batman's like
and trust me I will
fucking kill you the best scene ever yeah and and the caption is always like
fucking most legendary scene of all time yeah and trust me i will fucking kill you it's just like
the lamest shit of ever seen such an awesomely bad scene yeah i think it might be one of the
worst things ever filmed you're kind of a pushy huh batman i'll fucking kill you oh man it's so
hilarious and the close-up play it's shot so awkwardly close on the faces mm-hmm
Batman's like stiff cowl
I will kill yeah it's pretty cool and people used to make fun of the you know the
dark night joke oh Batman the Christian Bale yeah yeah every single
YouTube joke from like 2008 to 2015
With Batman in, that was...
Yeah, that was...
Oh, Muthamama.
What did you say, that?
Ah, the good old times, some call it.
The pure times.
Before Batflik came in and...
Before politics existed.
Well, speaking of politics...
Well, I'm done.
Oh, yeah.
Got you.
That was just a little trick, Halloween trick.
But I'm going to pluck.
and go into the housekeeping right now
we round out some of those conversations
from the previous week
and also pluck a couple
from the aforementioned
JAR Media Group chat
like this one from Mr. Blue Pumpkin
and bro you
brought some controversy
some much needed jar traversy
actually
Nope
you know don't you? Yeah I know
hang on let me just grab my prop
mhm
I need him to keep me calm for this discussion.
He says,
Jim needs to be punished for this Kung Fu Panda take.
I can't handle the dark.
No, I can handle the Dark Souls 2 hate,
but this is unacceptable.
You can even see how distraught Alexes
when Jim spouted his film.
Although this being his biggest L in Jha history
is quite impressive,
given how long Jha has been running.
Biggest L in JAR history.
Um,
what say you,
kachow
hmm i've i find it interesting that
the
people can't even have their own opinions nowadays
like this is your fault you're you're sending me down the
the right wing pipeline you're radicalized by
yeah i've i've been radicalized because all you liberals think the same
you know you're the first person to be radicalized by kung fu panda
no there's been so fucking many um
I mean, I'm just saying how I feel, you know, because we had that whole discussion about movies, right?
And my main, you know, gauge of how much I like a film is how much it makes me feel, right?
Kung Fu Panda doesn't really move the bar.
Is it like one of these, right?
When something connects, you want to go like, go on, son.
Yes, yeah, that's exactly it.
Or you want to be like...
Sorry for the audio listens there, but I had to...
This prop is just inspiring me to get all physical today.
Yeah, no, I like the dynamism.
Oh, good word, dinosaurism.
Yeah.
But yeah, I just remember watching Kung Fu Panda One the last time I watched it.
And not really...
Did you move the needle?
I wasn't particularly moved.
Really?
like emotionally in any capacity
the emotion isn't centered around poe as much in that movie
it's more the villain who i uh i messed up the booze six three yeah yeah yeah
Alex mixing up tai long and kai lang from mass effect is hilarious that's fair
i'll give you that one um obviously kai lang right that's
is that the kai lang sucks kai lang is troy baker
So it's Thai Lung
Is the cool Kung Fu Panda Tiger
Yeah, Kai Leng
Thai Tiger
That's an easier way of remembering it, I guess
He's a cool villain
And he's got the emotional arc of the film I would say
You know, and Dustin Hoffman's
Panda or whatever
What are they called?
You know, them little things that he is
Rat
Yeah, he's a little rat guy
Yeah
He's got charisma
Yeah
The music
music's good laying down the the emotional center is um turtle hmm but then he kills himself
halfway through the film yeah which is emotional yeah but then then you've got the second half
to get through and it's like yeah no then it shifts to uh tai lung then kai lang breaks out of
the citadel or fucking whatever the chase is an amazing scene there's loads of really good
action scenes there's that one there's the chopstick action scene is really good I always
agree that it's unevenly weighted as far as how good the action scenes are placed like
it kind of fizzles out in the final one with the skidooosh yeah um i get why you know the
climax isn't very effective that's where the most like emotion needs to be in any
film and it's why i think two is better than one as well yeah that's what started this whole
journey. I remember sitting in the flat for some reason putting on Kung Fu Panda 2. No, it's because
we did the, I achieved Little Panda Fighter like trying to watch and I made a video around about
that time. And then I rewatched Kung Fu Panda 2 and 1. And as a response to that to remind
myself like, what are these movies even like? I can't remember. And then yeah, it was from watching
two and being like, go on son. Come on my son.
yeah that really sort of
yeah
cemented it in my heart
forever and then
I went through like an obsessive phase
of listening to the entire soundtrack
maybe
because I'm pretty sure I saw Kung Fu Panda 2
before I ever saw Kung Fu Panda 1
really? Yeah
did I show you it or something?
Yeah because you were like dude
this film is like the best
I think it's my favorite film of all time
and I was like shit okay
I'll watch it
so we watched it
and then
went back and watched coming through Pounder 1, I guess.
And
nothing.
You know? Not nothing.
And coming through Pounder 3 can actually
eat my sandwich. Bro, you haven't even seen
4? Oh yeah, 4 came out. Oh my god.
Aquafino.
Fox?
Furbate fox?
No.
Nah.
I'm still upset about that.
Because I saw DreamWork's newest movie, the
Wild Robo.
bot which everyone's raving about and it was cute and looks amazing that's the main thing
what's the film with Rihanna in it oh home and Jinkies or whatever he's called
Bazinga that's that's a 3D printed movie that one you know yeah in fact that's an
insult to 3D printer at least you can 3D print something useful a gun to kill yourself
after watching yeah so do you have any uh
any apologies for
the slanders
I can't help what I feel
and I'm just telling you what I feel
you know I I appreciate
that and like I'm not
saying that these merits
don't exist
I'm saying that they
they just don't you know
make me feel alive
oh another really good action scene
the one on the bridge
in the first movie against the Furious 5
really or is that in the second
No, that's the first one.
Good out scene.
You know what's better?
What?
The wheel.
The wheel?
Yeah.
From the Paris, the Caribbean.
No, they're on that wagon that's like slowly falling apart in the second one.
Yeah, yeah, that's an awesome scene too.
And the building coming down and...
Yeah.
Yeah.
It goes crazy and the cannonball.
Yeah.
So Jim's wrong this first.
Fine. Everyone's wrong sometimes, but...
I'm not wrong.
Twy 87 says, Alex's body language and condescending attitude
reflects his ongoing regression back into the IHE persona.
Marked by words, by this time next year, he'll be sat off screen again,
lauding it over us peasants.
Saying that, I'll take the official IHE account off his hands for
£0.49 pence.
The highest offer I've got so far is £20.
So I'm tempted.
That's like a
Sammy's Cabab
That's like two
Yeah that's probably what it's worth
Oh no
You know the thing about him
You know these pictures of Elon jumping
No you've told me about this
You haven't seen any of them
Doing his little baby toddler jumps
He's doing it again and again
Because what happens when you jump in the air
You turn it to an axe
Oh
I get really imagine making that somehow lamer like it sounds lame and baby already that this grown-house man billionaire richest man in the world is jumping up and down like an excited toddler who's just seen Kung Fu Panda 2 for the first time and it's also a he's just obsessed with X it's weird space x x dot com.
Sam Will 1999 kind of, I guess, proves his comment right, saying,
watch an episode of jar.
Take a shot of vodka every time one of them says Elon Musk.
Get bloody wankered.
Do we talk about him that much, or is it like...
No.
He's just making it up.
Yeah.
Shut up, Sam.
Shut up, Musk.
Um, Hise 147 said, he's back.
Cuts to Wallace walking into the jar set via.
an end game portal
that would be hype
no surely it should be
Wallace coming in through the portal then
he says he's back
yeah you could do
that it's like
first half an hour of a movie is like
Gromit all alone
because Wallace has died
oh sheesh
and then he's like
on your left
on your left
Grumit
on your Wednesdaysdale
Grumit
Yeah, we'll get that one day
Bad Bad Chacha says
Halo was good once
In quotes
Yeah, okay grandpa
Let's get you back to bed
I read that comment
And um
Gave it a like
Well it
It kind of like
Stanlocked me
Because it's so true
Yeah
You okay grandpa
Let's get you back to bed
Yeah
No, please, believe me
I was right once
It's gonna be reality
You know
When I'm playing GTA 6 in
A retirement home
Yeah
Um
Unless uh in this segment with
Actually know there's two more I want to do here
Gebby of the Boreal Valley says
To either of you or Jim watch Eldon
Ring law videos
I beat the game once and feel like I know
F all
Did you guys learn the law from multiple play-throughs or was it through law videos or any combination of both?
Both. Thanks, my lovelies.
I've watched them, but I haven't really retained any of it.
I've only just, like, caught up to Sekaro Law.
Like, because I've recently replayed a bunch of it when I got the projector and was like, oh, that's what this environment is.
That's what these monks are doing.
Like, I never, I never really, like, thought about it, to be honest.
They were quite obtuse stories.
It's not demanded of you to even
engage with it. You can engage with it as much
as you want to. Yeah, and I have
watched like some Meldon Ring Law videos, but I haven't
I can't say I've retained any of it.
Mostly because I'm so bad with names
and remembering names.
Rani, Rinala.
Rala
Now.
Mikhail, is that one?
Mickelor.
Mikala.
But then there's so many names, and I can't.
Radan.
Yeah.
do you like know the out and ring story and all that kind of stuff yeah yeah I mean
Vati is obviously the place to go yeah um I kind of get you though like I don't really
know the context or necessarily feel like I need to know it's almost it's almost fun feeling
like just overwhelmed by like what the hell's even going on well yeah it can be like a more
in some more immersive yeah yeah it's it's the my first
play-throughs are always blind um i just want a quick try and find some so there's a few channels
that they're just so good give me an overview what so everything's about the tree right
the erd tree well where do you want to start i thought that was like i don't i don't know
before the urge tree in every single miyazaki game pretty much there's ancient dragons
right. So like for Ramazula, that place you go
in the storm right at the end, that was like the original capital.
The, do you remember Placidu Sax?
Yeah. The dragon at the end of time, he was the original
Eldon Lord, right?
But then like even before that...
What does being an Eldon Lord even mean?
You're like the one who is like the figurehead of the world?
Yeah.
The fantasy land.
From what I understand that the elder lord like chooses the values and the it's always in eras.
But through like through magic through just like through power, you're like granted it.
So the, the, the, it's like a blessing.
I think because the law from the DLC adds more so something arrived from space
which was like a a what do you call it?
Is that what that weird bug thing if I know that that comes later because
that's the that underground society yeah they used to be above ground but
they upset the um what do they call it the greater will which is like the the god so there are
gods yeah but but it's more like um lovecraftian they're like they're like aliens they're
it's all to do with the stars and shit you know so there's there's kind of gods
but they're not gods, they're above gods, because Marica is a god.
And those are the stakes of Marika that you like help on.
Yeah, so she's, she's the one who is also, is it Radavid?
Yeah.
So there's Radavid, Radon.
No, Radagon, sorry, Radavid is the Witcher.
Radigan.
Radigan and Marica are the same person, but they're separate beings, the same way St. Trina and Mickelor are one person, but separate, like, entities.
I got none of this from playing none.
What's the tree about then?
I thought the tree was like the, everything.
The erd tree.
So the Erd Tree grew from the last boss.
Grew from?
Yeah, like he sent down this meteor or whatever.
This greater will.
See, there's theories now that the greater will isn't even like a sentient thing.
It's more like...
Like a Big Bang type of event?
Yeah, it's more like just the causality of the universe.
the greater will
So
A starting point
Yeah or like just the
Just time
You know
Like events that happen
It's the greater will
So there's debates amongst
The people telling the stories
But yeah
This tree grows
Um
Which
So it's like a magic tree
A godly tree almost
Yeah
I mean I need to
If I can have a refresh
but it's crazy you can remember all this though all these all these videos because you can
have a whole hour and a half video just on the dragons or a whole you can have like a whole
hour long video just on a type of enemy like it goes so fucking deep but they all overlap and
shit so trying to get a coherent timeline of what happened because there's also like a period
where they it was called like the crucible where life was just like all life was just the
same thing in like a melting pot like there were the unity distinctions um yeah and there's
the the horned guys who get like they used to be worshipped but then in the current age they're
like stuck underground.
What about like, what's he called?
Star Scourge Redan or something?
Star something.
Star Scourge.
Star Scourge Radan.
What's on his tiny horse?
What's that about?
So he, do you remember I said Marika and Radagon
are the same body but different people?
Yeah.
Right?
Marica is the king.
And this is when it's obvious that,
George Aramarton helped write it.
Yeah.
Because she incest with herself.
Okay.
Of course there's incest somewhere.
So while she was with, do you remember, uh, Horo Lou?
He's like the penultimate boss.
What's he looked like?
The topless guy, he's like shredded and he does wrestling moves on you.
So he was the original Eldon Lord of the Golden Era.
And.
Radagon was like
the head of the military
and he was going to war
with that magic castle
okay
right and then he
the lady
yeah
Rinala
yeah
he ends up marrying her
and having kids
um
Rani
Radan
and the snake guy
whose name
is
the snake boss thing
yeah the big snake
he was a heretic and he fed himself to a god-eating snake
so that it would grow stronger
so that we have faced on it is him yeah
right okay what's his fucking name that's annoying me
so yeah um but then
Radagon leaves
Rinala to marry Marica
himself
Star Sedge Radan
being
technically
related to the golden lineage
can become a god
or can he
maybe not but he's good at magic and shicks
his mum is a magician lady
his dad he does a bunch of like
a meteor type
yeah so
attacks
yeah that's why he's on his tiny horse
because he loves his horse
so he learned gravity
magic so that he could
stay on his horse
but it's like it's so old
and dying. Yeah, yeah, but he like
levitates above it so he's not actually
like crushing it. Right.
Yeah, and he
do you remember after the boss fight
a meteor comes down?
Oh yeah. And blows
up like a hole.
I guess minor spoilers
for Eldon Ring. Yeah, sorry.
But yeah, that's because
DRC stuff.
He's frozen all of time, like, in space.
He's frozen the movement of the stuff.
Like, that's how powerful he is.
You're fighting him while he's got Scarlet Rot,
and he's frozen all of the stars in their space.
Right, Scarlet Rot as well.
Yeah, because then there's the fucking...
I always forget that boss's name,
like the hardest boss in the game.
the lady I will solo her oh god let me solo with an name as well
yeah because it's mcculler's sister if I just put Eldham ring
mhm McKett my hardest boss um Maliketh no Malaketh no Malenia
Yeah, yeah, millennia.
So Melania and Mickelor
um, are the kids of Radagon and Marika, right?
The incest, same person.
And that's, it's theorized because she had children with herself.
That's why both of her kids are like fucked up.
They're all messed up.
Because Micler can't age, so it was forever a child.
And Melania has the scarlet rock.
Yeah, so then...
It was Reichard, by the way.
Reichard, yeah.
Lord of blasphemy, I guess, blasphemy being him betraying them somehow, going against.
Yeah.
What he's supposed to.
So then...
How much...
How much of this first did you get, do you have to watch videos to understand this?
How much did you understand from like the cutscenes and whatnot?
10% if not less?
Yeah.
So then like what's Moog, the omen?
You have to start the DLC?
He's the kid, he's the brother of the like first main boss of the game.
okay um some moge and more free and godrick no more got remember he's got like the stick
and he's got the big piss hammer yellow oh yeah big hammer so morgot and mog brothers they're the
kids of horolew america so are then are the like naming conventions that when they tend to
start with the same letter they're from the same family yeah it's it's just like um
yeah it's like Tyrion Tywin so yeah I probably should have I don't know paid more
attention to that so I was I was trying to pay attention early on but then yeah
when it was like Godfrey and God Rick and he's kind of similar looking dudes or
whatever I was like I can't keep up with these people I don't know who who is who and
doesn't as you said doesn't really matter to your experience of actually playing the game
like um yeah um and then what about the giants there's
like a big implication with the like that was one thing I picked up with the map design and
whatnot it's like this giant skulls and like big skeletons of like giant people the giants
were the giants were like an ancient species like early man um they're like nearly extinct
type thing and i think i think it was radagon yeah or radagon descended from them
because like in that in the olden ring law if you have red hair you descended from the giants
because they're like the fire giants that's like Game of Thrones too there's a whole giant thing
yeah and they're all up in the the northern mountainous part um but radagon like they they ward
the golden guys ward with the giants because the giants with the ones with the
only thing that could burn the edge tree okay which the story does explicitly show you
yeah yeah and there's like when you're exploring the world there are these giant troll
things like walking around are they like undead giants or something they I think
they're more like um slaves they look kind of like zombies they yeah they they're not giants
I think the trolls teamed up with humans to beat the giants.
Okay.
But they're not like respected and shit.
You see them with like big chains in their backs.
Yeah, they're like pulling around and...
Yeah.
Hmm.
I mean, that's all very interesting when it's explained to me like that.
Dude, the, the elder, the elder ring, um, the...
Which out of the Souls games do you like the lore of the most?
like do you still like dark souls more as far as like just the story and world i think
because most people i feel like like bloodborns one the most bloodborns is really cool it's
cool but i i don't find that sort of um era quite as interesting
I prefer more like old school fantasy.
I really like Dark Souls 1.
It's...
I think Dark Souls 1 might have the best stories.
Like the characters in the game.
Yeah, yeah.
Um...
So yeah.
So, yeah.
Eldon Ring is really good.
All the lore.
Like, you can, and I have,
legit, just sat,
watched a video as if it was a movie.
Mm.
Like, for the entirety.
And Vati has, like, some,
where he goes through
the storyline of a character.
Mm-hmm.
And there's, like, fight scenes and shit,
and he's explained.
He's, like, a narrator.
It's so cool.
Because I've always liked the,
the tree being like a central important thing
with the world and like when you're underground
you find its roots and stuff like that
I love that kind of thing
yeah yeah because that's like their whole culture of death
is that you want to return to the earth tree
when you die like you're giving it
it's feeding it to it yes all those dungeons
in the game of which there are many
100 billion they're all like graves
where people want to be
buried right if you're not buried there then man that's crazy I feel like we do like
three hours on that alone yeah no genuinely I mean it if you tallied up the
runtime of Vati's videos just his not including like every other YouTuber yeah of which
there are many good ones it's like seasons and seasons and seasons of the TV show
or something. It's tens of tens of hours. Um, and they're gonna be more succinct than me.
Well, um, we can return to Elder Ring and Jaffe to hours. Talk about that D.L.C. But, uh,
first we'll see after these messages for some questions.
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So, let's start with this one from Goldfire, VI.
Question for Alex or Randy, if he's available.
What are your thoughts on Edgar writes George Lucasing, Sean of the Dead, with the new remastered release of the movie?
If you haven't heard, he's taken the scene where Sean slips on blood in the shop and added an actual visible blood pool that wasn't in the original.
I personally don't see the point in making this change as the scene was already perfect as it is.
But I also don't think it really matters that much, like some hyperbolic monkeys on the internet seem to think.
Weird.
My gut says, like, why?
Why?
Maybe it just bugged him.
Yeah, but isn't that kind of part of it, but it's like, that is filmmaking.
You're not always going to be able to get every single meticulous detail, and it's been released, it's connected with people, for what it is then.
Yeah, but you can now.
But I know the shot is the moment he's talking about and it's like
Surely it almost hurts the believability of the scene more
Because it's like he's like in his own world ignoring the craziness around him
Is it when he's hung over?
Yeah, when he goes to the shop right and he like slips at a certain point
I don't know
I'd have to see it for myself to see how distracting it is so maybe I wouldn't even noticed
if it wasn't pointed out to me
but just on a principle thing that was changed
I think so
as far as I'm aware
but why even play with it you just
leave it or a can of worms
yeah why even open that can of worms
and if you're going to
I just want to make sure there's options
to always have both options
you know unlike the Star Wars thing
you just can't see it without finding
the despecialized versions or whatever.
Yeah.
Are they not even on Disney?
No.
That's bad.
Yeah.
Uh, no haj has a Jim question.
I was going to play through the Arkham games for the first time soon.
Jim recently poo-pooed on Arkham Origins,
but I went back and looked at your old jar of you,
and you're both really positive.
Where do you stand on this game nowadays?
Has your opinion on it lowered significantly?
Yes.
I was trying to think about this earlier where I think that game is, in a vacuum, it's fine as like a Batman game.
Like if the Arkham games didn't exist and that was the only Arkham game, it would be like, it's like a cool Batman game.
It'll be good.
You know, it's like on the level of like the Spider-Man games to me, probably.
But it's just not as good as, it's not as tight as the Arkham games.
No, that's the thing.
I, because
they're all out
so last time
I was on a Batman thing
I played at Arkham Asylum
straight into Arkham City
was like
whoa
goddamn straight onto
Arkham Knight
whoa
this is way better than I remember
stopped halfway through
Arkham Knight
wait a minute
one came out between these two
better go buy that and jump on quick
did that jumped on and I was like
on Steam
yeah
doesn't have like a really notoriously bad port or is that night or both night night had a really bad port i think
they both did um they're fine now they're like right uh i just know of being bug by you have these
like this charging bar with these like electric gloves that was just like an instant wind move
yeah and that being lame they've made they made a few like little adjustments that
it's like why mm you know some of them i'm
cool with um little footsteps in the snow that's quite nice uh i like i like the stance he goes
into when like he's surrounded by bad guys because normally in he it's just like funny
batman right stand there really stiffly yeah yeah which is kind of like a cool in its own way
you know like he's so unfazed he can just snap into any position at any point but this is a
younger Batman, this is like a less experience, more scrappy guy, so he goes into the stunt.
Looks kind of cool. Then there's stuff that like slows the gameplay down.
And this might sound hyper-specific.
But in, in Arkham City, they introduced this mechanic where you do a stun, dodge into them,
and you like run up their body and then jump on them, like pound them when they're using a shield.
That's how you get past them.
But if you dodge again while stood on them, you can jump onto another guy.
Yeah, yeah.
And slam him instead.
In Arkham City, it's just like up and slam.
In Arkham Origins, you like run up them, drop onto them, and then stand there for a second and hit them again while they're down.
And it doesn't knock them out, I'm pretty sure.
And all the while, you can be hit while that's happening.
Whereas, like, as a rule in all the other games, there are certain things you can do that negate that from being a possibility.
You can't get hurt.
You can give yourself a breather by doing certain actions.
And that tiny oversight really, really annoyed me.
It's one of those things that sounds small, but the more you play at a certain level, the more annoying.
Yeah, and you pick up more and more stuff like it.
and like they made the stealth too easy with the the claw thing where you can just shoot
that's right the gargoy and a guy and it just sucks him up to it you know and then there's the
gloves which makes every combat scenario sounds like spider-man uh stealth which sucks yeah yeah
really boring yeah um insanely boring um Akam origin stealth isn't like awful by any means it's not
as bad as spider-man no um i remember like the boss is being good yeah the boss is a memorable kind of like
like set pieces the open world
sucks though it's it's
such a drag to go around
yeah I remember nothing about
actually they have um they have like
the towers that's right
the Ubisoft towers yeah so you've like
go in and do a radio thing and
it's just
more like derivative
design yeah
less creative less its own
thing
but I still wouldn't call it a bad game
no I don't I don't hate it
it's just it really
disappointed me because my memories were really solid of it um and i may still go back and play it
because like the the story and stuff is quite fun um i death stroke right if i were playing
the arkin games for the first time i'd maybe say start with it really start with origins
asylum will be weird to go back to but you'll get the hang of it and um
yeah appreciate it for what it is
and then city you'll fucking blow your mind
okay
let's freaking go
that's freaking freaking freaking
answer this one from fair ad
5082 hello jarwood
I recently deleted all my social media
mostly because I realized I only had one life
and didn't want to spend it completely dead to the world
but partially because my feed had been
completely taken over by conspiracy theorists
This is totally my own fault as I created this feedback loop by watching slash sharing these when I saw them
as they got increasingly unhinged and hilarious.
Highlights include someone claiming that anchovies and centipedes were actually the same thing.
Another claim was that the reason why all 21st century men are such spineless beta males, not my words,
is literally because the two at the start of their birth year imbues them with feminine energy.
This got to the point where I felt like I was totally losing my faith in the survival of the human race
So then I had to exit the rhythm
Have you had any experience with this kind of rabbit hole slash do you think there is a noticeable
societal trend of everyone completely losing their minds case and point Russell Brand is now selling a hundred and eighty quid
Amulets to protect you from Wi-Fi from touch grass enjoya
Have you seen that? No
He's full-on like snake oil salesman
Grifter now like he is the snake or salesman from red though like he's doing exactly that
makes sense for him uh-huh he's always had the the gift of the gab
what a fucking clown yeah at least clowns can be funny though mostly scary yeah mostly scary
which i suppose he's good at doing as well um yeah i've i've never had like my algorithm
turn into that
that level.
No, not that severely.
Not like the...
I mean, that sounds like
Eldon Ring lore, the like anchovies
and centipedes were actually the same thing
a millennia ago.
Yeah.
That's more Sackero law, actually.
Yeah, you're right.
I...
I've dabbled,
I'd say.
In the conspiracy...
Like in a trolley kind of way,
like this guy?
Like, ever been like...
Hang on a minute.
it more like maybe this is real you know when when you stand in front of a mirror
no like in the dark with the candles you're like
you know maybe maybe if I said this three times
oh right except when I have that thought I just do it and then it doesn't happen
yeah but like a little part of you is like kind of like I kind of hope it is real
you know just because it'll be crazy yeah yeah um just because it'll be crazy
yeah it'll be like more interesting
if it if it was true
you know
um
just this Monday
I was in the gym
listening to a conspiracy theory video
what was the subject
I don't know if I can say
I might get bad
it pertains to a
a Hollywood power couple
and it's like
this shit ain't real
but
you know
it's definitely a phenomena that has been
exacerbated by the internet
oh god yeah
but also talking to people who
who straight up believe everything they read
and there are more of those
anything. They're very common.
Yeah. You would tell that story about that dude
when you worked
in that pub, right? Yeah, yeah.
Carried documents around.
Yeah. I mean, he was the most extreme.
He's the most extreme I've ever met.
But other people, it's just like
regurgitating shit. What's that website? And that was pre-COVID, right?
Or was that mid-COVID?
It would have been pre-COVID.
That's crazy. I wasn't really there. Because it really went out of control
around 2020.
yeah maybe maybe it was maybe it was 2020 it could have been but I doubt it um yeah I don't
think it was um mom talks about she's got this friend back in New Zealand that's always
sending her stuff on Facebook it's like the 15 minute city conspiracies and like electric cars
there are conspiracies to control you to limit like how far you can travel and like this kind
of thing um yeah it's bonkers
it's like actually unhinged yeah and that that sort of stuff isn't interesting to me it's so dumb
it's like so ridiculously stupid yeah yeah yeah but the the more out there it is like the moon landing
right yeah ridiculously obviously did happen yeah but it would be fucking impressive if it didn't
you know but like did you see um i think i saw a clip on twitter of it
matt walsh went on joe rogan oh yeah you've seen yeah yeah yeah where he says the
and this was matt walsh yeah like you don't really believe that do you joe yeah and it's
right after because like he contradicts himself i can't remember what they're talking about
a different conspiracy and then switch to yeah yeah i can't remember what the other one was but
wound up with no because they're talking about flat earth that's right yeah and and joe is like so
you believe all these governments like agree and believe that this happened or that this is the case
like that they're working together to tell everyone that the earth is round when it's actually
flat yeah and then he talks about the moon landing and he's like well what if
it is what if it didn't happen it's like well surely China would be like yeah you get
man it gets really messed up when it's someone with that influence yeah yeah spreading that kind
of thing because it really has an effect on people it really does mm-hmm because you know
you couldn't spread these idiot ideas like before the internet you know you couldn't
create these little micro communities around these hyper specific conspiracy theories
and we'll egg each other on and share your sources and whatnot and just spread the insanity.
Yeah.
And like the pyramid shit, man.
The pyramid stuff.
And yeah, because I really feel like people like Joe Rogan have sped up this stuff.
You know, always having like Graham Hancock on and...
Yeah, there's an obsession.
Although I do like the alien stuff.
That's very fun.
Well, it's like, yeah, I, I like engaging with it just on like a purely hypothetical, this is like fun, just...
Yeah, that's exactly, that's silly, that's what I'm saying.
But it's, a lot of people don't treat it that way, they treat it as real, and then they'll start forming real-life opinions around it and, like, their worldview around these things.
And it's like, even if, like, some of it was true, my thing is just like, okay, like, how's, like, how's the fact going to?
have had my life right now you know yeah it's like simulation theory yeah yeah it's like oh we know
now yeah it's like a philosophical exercise thought exercise but once you finish the thoughts
then it's gone and you're just back to boring old yeah yeah it's definitely been more and more
of a thing so i just really don't feel like it wasn't as intrusive early internet oh no it was it was it was
memed.
Yeah.
It existed, but it was a...
It's more fringe, I guess.
Yeah.
Whereas now you'll just see like a, yeah, a TikTok or a YouTube short of just some
straight up conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
I mean, the amount of people...
There's more people that believe the Earth is flat now.
Yeah.
Than like 2,000 years ago.
No, that's not right
Um
Let's do two more here
Before we wrap up nearly it now already
Shludit says I'm hereby submitting a formal request
To Jamie Beltman
May I use your fat roller coce roller chair
Let me try that again
May I use your fat roller chair bound doctor
As a character in my story
I like to write slightly absurdist stuff
Influenced by guys like
Kurt Vonnegut and Thomas
Feikin, my mistake if I said that wrong, even a little Wes Anderson for a film reference.
I think that irony and comedy of a doctor so fat he only travels by chair would be perfect for my tone.
FYI, regardless of your response, I would be shamelessly stealing this idea. Thank you.
The only thing I'd say is that it's obviously not absurd because it's just real.
It's real.
But that's like another thing where some...
With the creative writing, you almost have to be less insane than what is real.
Because, like, you watch these documentaries that, I don't know, show a story that happened to somebody that is so, I'm so unbelievable that you can't only believe it because it's in a documentary and there's like proof of it.
Yeah.
And it's like, real.
And if it wasn't a fictional narrative, you'd be like, that's just dumb.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like a delicate balance with that kind of thing.
Yeah, the world.
has bad writing
Yeah
Inconsistent characters
Yeah
Randomness that's unpredictable
Coincidences
Coincidences galore
Yeah
Yeah
Um so
Do you give them permission
Whatever
If I'm if you put
If you put Jim's name
Somewhere in it
You call the fat
Dr Jim
Dr Jim
Dr Jim
Yeah
Okay
That's a good little ode.
Bath tub Tom has this.
Hi Jar.
Something I've been thinking about a lot lately is the current irony epidemic we're living in.
I've seen numerous artists and creators complain about this online
where very little meaningful discourse is being had about art slash politics
in favour of sarcastic responses, memes and one-liners.
This makes it incredibly hard to engage with things like films or music
when a large amount of the discourse online is occupied by ironic response.
and a lack of sincere thought and opinions.
I've even been finding this is in real life.
Some people I met at uni only ever engage with things with surface-level ironic jokes,
and in some cases I feel like I don't actually know anything about them.
I'm all for a good giggle, but I really feel like this lack of sincerity and unwillingness to truly care is detrimental to our lives.
I blame a lot of it on social media and algorithms that reward outrageous slash extreme slash funny stuff.
Sorry for the long one, lads. Cheers.
No need to apologize. That was the perfect length.
I think of that one. I think you're just British.
It's part of what bugs me about like the Pandora's box, I guess, like, Rick and Morty open, the apathy.
Dead poor thing where it's like, you're not allowed to be sincere.
It would be too risky to be sincere.
It is a risk, but I don't know, being genuine is like a little bit hard, you know.
Isn't that the issue with it, though, right?
Like, it's, it is hard to be genuine.
But if you're, if you're like, if you build into the fact that your shit sucks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like a built-in shield.
Yeah.
Um.
But that's what I mean.
Like, that's, that's why being genuine is hard.
Because you have to be like...
But I've met people like this before where they have that dial up so high.
Where it's like, yeah, I genuinely don't know like who you are or what you believe at all.
Because all you do, all you can possibly say is like a irony quip.
And it's like, it's funny in little doses, but it's like, yeah, you do that for a little bit.
Then you say your real opinion or whatever and then you have a conversation.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe, maybe these people don't want conversations.
Maybe.
But there is also like,
I do like a lot of the irony humor.
If I'm being real.
It's funny.
Like Deadpool.
Is it even ironic humor then?
I don't even know what irony is.
No one does.
It's not even real.
I thought it was an element.
A conspiracy.
I thought it was on the periodic table
Real irony is like
An actual
Like a writing technique
Dramatic irony is like what you want a lot of the time
For like a real punchy
Scene or
Romeo and Juliet
There you go
Thank you brother bring it back to Shakespeare
Always always always
Macbeth
Macbeth
Woo
A midsummer's night
Night
Midsummer's Night dream
Or something
A midsummer's night dream
Shakespeare
Part 2
Shakespeare
He only did three players, right?
One and a half
And anyway
It was all ghost written by aliens
Yeah, it was ghost written by the pyramids
Yeah, I don't know
There is no answer
It's more so it's more the
The sincerity thing
Yeah
But if you want sincerity
Threaten them
It's why like the Marvel dialogue
Is like a meme at this point
Yeah
You're undercutting the sincerity
With like
It's right behind me
Isn't it?
Yeah
I've got guns
As arms
You know
Key is
fucking bumblebee i've got sword arms that was another thing yeah people in the
comments like it's actually kind of fiber of shut the fuck up fucking that better be irony
i'm gonna watch it fuck you i've just got to be part of the conversation
just ironically though yeah yeah because what it's like um going to the cinema to see
despicable me
fucking nine
right
but most people
do love them
no but if I went in
like
in my head
it would be like
they know I'm only
going as a joke
right
you know
it is like a
protective barrier
you know
yeah
but I guess it's like
a measurement of
I've never seen
a despicable me movie
in the cinema
I don't think I have
just being post ironic
actually
um
but like
When I inevitably go and see Venom 3, the last dance, for example.
There will be some sick level of enjoyment, probably.
You're just saying you're going to like the movie.
No, but that's what I'm saying.
It's not a sincere enjoyment of the film.
It's like, it's at both of our expenses, where I'm like...
You're paying.
I'm paying, so I'm saying, as a customer,
customer make more yeah but I'm going and the whole time I'm like this sucks but
this is awesome yeah like you're enjoying your time with it yeah like we both saw we
both saw the Meg and the Meg 2 on the big screen yeah you know yeah that's true
and there was definitely some sick twisted ironic enjoyment in there yeah but at that
point I'd go as far as to say that the Meg is just a good film because of that
the meg is just a good film about the meg part two
no the meg part two sucks
I hate that film
first one is um
I don't know I do need to get letboxed
the first one's like a
four
out of five
yeah you gotta come back and bring some sincerity
that fuck yeah
yeah
the mega's four
country pandas are fucking
too yeah or like when I went to see megalopolis for example there was no part of me that
really thought it was going to be great and my best hopes were that it would be funny
ironically funny for more like the story around it existing and the craziness of self-funding
such a piece of shit like that um more power to them
Well yeah, so I don't know.
Hang on.
It's always a case by case basis.
Or whatever.
Here we go.
Okay.
Irony.
The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite.
Typically for humorous or...
Oh, so it's kind of sarcasm.
Depole.
Are you going to watch it?
What, Deadpool?
Deadpool 3.
Maybe.
Probably.
And will that be a sincere watch?
No.
I guess I didn't mention I've seen it on JAR.
That's all you need to say.
I've seen it.
It's one of the biggest movies.
I didn't say anything about it.
Okay.
I thought Gambit was really funny.
But you love Chaneg Tateng.
I do quite like him.
I find him funny.
I find him funny.
Honestly, my biggest problem is just, it's just the ugliest piece of shit.
Visuals.
It really bugs me.
It's like, why is I have to look this bad?
It looks so unbelievably ugly and bad.
Even if, like, you know, Hugh Jackman's...
Does it look?
he does look good in it to be fair does it look worse than the other Deadpool movies
it's been a while but it might actually look worse it was so uh sound stagey yeah yeah
it's just like the lighting is like the same in like every scene and yeah the locations
are so fake um and like when it goes into the the crazy action
action and stuff it's just that sheen that look mm-hmm there was this shot that was going
around of like I wouldn't spoil anything but towards the end of the movie this like
dead boy Wolverine they like smash out the back of a bus and then stand there for a few seconds
and like they look like this rubber goo shit and it's like man I hate the way this looks
um I think it was the free guy director as well um oh nice yeah I think it was him Sean Levy
so i got a hate boner for that dude um hate his direction it's just completely carried by
hugh jackman um you know he's a good wolverin can't deny he was a good wolverine um
yeah i hate ryan reynolds style of um let's get in as many celebrities as we can that will
be funny yeah like there's a video um an interview with him
when he's explaining the process of, like, pitching
Depple, Depple 2
with the X-Force bit when Brad Pitt is the joke, yeah.
Yeah, and it's like, and then I'll get Brad Pitt.
And everyone's like, yeah.
You know, like, laughing and...
Memberberry, crying and shit.
It's not even Memberberry, it's like...
It's just reference.
It's...
It's the Big Bang Theory, the joke is the reference.
Yeah, it's totally vapid.
and it just means in like
10 years
I mean
I bet there's a bunch of people who saw it
like younger people who were like
who's that
oh for like Brad Pitt you man
yeah like who yeah yeah what fucking
relevant shit is Brad Pitt in now
um train kill
fast train
like he the fuck
is it yeah
and 90% of
does he mention
fucking green lantern
uh
I don't think
they mention green lantern
but they mention
oranges Wolverine I think
and there's a reference to the proposal
okay
so it's like the same kind of joke
at the expense of his career
and how much it sucks
But it's fine now because he's Deadpool, blah,
so now he's untouchable.
Did he go to Diddy's things?
Maybe.
The character of Deadpool was at Diddy's Parties.
Yeah, fucking time travel back to Diddy's Party, Deadpool.
Undo that.
Because like, the second one did have Josh Bowling in it, I guess.
Yeah.
He rocks.
He rocks, man.
No, that's the one from the Fast and the Furious.
Oh, um, Hobson Shore with Ryan Reynolds cameo.
Fuck.
I can't take it anymore, bro.
This web of lies, or this web of truths, depending on which angle you see it through.
Oh, you're gonna like nice pool, though, when you get to it.
I've basically...
You've seen the whole film.
whole movie in shorts yeah yeah it kind of is one of those where it's like so many scenes
designed around like soying over uh you know yeah you fucking blade is back
spoilers everyone everyone yeah lecture fucking fucking uh warhammer guy uh warhammer guy
Henry Cavill as Wolverine for like a split second oh look it's Henry Cavill
that's right ah yes funny he's there that's there's actually more of a joke to
that than the Brad Pitt one because that was like a slight at DC right at least
there's like a joke there okay I'm with you I like when there's actually like a joke
yeah i mean
a really good scene in the
where they like have a fight in like this
family car
it's probably the best scene in the movie
I think I've seen the beginning of it
where Wolverine just like has like a minute long speech
about what devil sucks
yeah yeah yeah
and he's just spot on
yeah
are you supposed to
agree
it's kind of that weird problem where
if a character
written to be annoying it's such a fine line and like all the characters around him are like
you're so fucking annoying shut up like when it's like oh it's just true like you're unbearable um
yeah but like i like in empire strikes back c3 pio kind of is that but i find that funny as
fuck yeah he's kind of the the you couldn't get more opposite to deadpool could you
it's more sincere though yes like it's painfully sincere wow you brought that fucking all the way
around back yeah yeah c3PO is the the the realest motherfucker has anyone ever said that
before that string of words c3 pio is the realest motherfucker i saw an awesome picture of someone
who'd done a couple's costume it was layer and c3 pio for some reason and
the guy who was dressed as seen through me and he just felt like a yellow shirt on and like yellow
trousers just like painted himself like yellow yeah um your gold or whatever um it's awesome
I love it but yeah leave your favorite Deadpool cameo in the comments below
and uh leave your hopes and dreams for remember that show movie fights movie fights
screen junkies yeah yeah yeah um it's only in my mind because uh yMS on his on his stream he watched
the old movie fights that he was on in like 2015 or whatever um so it's a reminder because like
yeah yeah it was so long ago um because i used to watch like movie fights a month yeah i did
quite enjoyed it even if it was like goofy in retrospect yeah yeah it's very silly um
And I forgot where I was going with that.
YMS looked at his old ones.
Yeah.
Was this emotional?
It was extremely emotional.
Like, where were we?
Movie fights.
Deadpool movie fights.
I remember them arguing over why Deadpool is going to be so far.
They were like, what's the best moment from the trailer?
I think the best moment was when he says the brown pants.
because he's all about poo
That's right
Yeah I was going to do let's do a movie fights
Because they would remember they have segments where it was like
Pitch your dream die hard prequel
Right okay
And then like whoever gets the points
Wins the round or whatever for their best pitch
So I'm thinking like
Deadpool 4
Deadpool 4
What is
All dream pitch
dream pitch Deadpool 4
to win their movie fights round
here's mine right
Deadpool
Deadpool and Spider-Man
See that's where my
lame ass head went straight away
No but listen
And Venom
Oh shit
It's like Tom Hardy Venom
Oh fuck that's hard to beat
You don't even just explain what happens
You don't even just explain what happens
it you know the venom will go on
Deadpool and there'd be like a whole
Venomized Deadpool scene
Oh shit
The pop vinyl's fly off the shelves
Mm-hmm
Everyone will be nutting themselves
In the crowds
Yeah
Tom Holland can have a joke about his career
You know
Reynolds can joke about Tom Holland
Like a Zendaya joke or something
Mm-hmm
Yeah
That's quite convincing.
What about yours?
Um
You might have to take mine out.
Okay, if I have to take it out, this is the end of the episode, again.
Okay.
If it just stops, then the Jim's one was too fucked to leave in.
I was going to say, um...
I'm
