JAR Media Posdact - Jim is WRONG, makes Batfleck SNAP

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, bloody. Do you think? Well, we're in the Halloween scary month, so things will be getting bloody. I was in a pub today. Oh, yeah. And it said booze and boos. Ah, B-O-O-O-S and B-O-Z-E. Or Z-E.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Boos and Boos. And I looked at it and I thought, Yeah. You know what? That's a funny one to start the day. Yeah. I mean... Or the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Or evening or night. Oh, we forgot to change the number. Oh, well. It's 292. How about that? Hang on. As if the numbers are related to anything anyway. Am I right? Am I wrong? Am I scaring you?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Sorted. There we go. Episode 92 of the broadcast. Welcome to episode 92 of the broadcast. I'm your host Alex joined by Jim. I'm your host Jim joined by Alex. Do your best impression of me. Do your best impression of me. No, actually try. No, actually try. No, try harder than that. Try harder than that. Wait, no, let me do that one again.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Try harder than that. Oh, you're saying I say my T's more? You saying I say my T's more? I'm going to say I say my T's more? Do an impression of me then? Do an impression of me then? No, a proper impression of me. No, a proper impression of me then.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Then me a proper impression of? Oh, God. Too many layers. Too many layers. Like a Photoshop document. layer one layer two change the transparency on layer three is that a technique i don't know maybe Photoshop frightens me visual visual frighten you're frightened by visuals you're saying yeah I'm frightened by Halloween
Starting point is 00:02:19 why do you think I don't partake you do yeah but only for the scare is Like, I like becoming scare You like Being the scaur I dress up and then I just go around Like You know, just At people
Starting point is 00:02:40 Not even looking for a trick, not even looking for a treat More like a Mischief Hmm Like, um Like Michael Myers Or Freddy or Jason
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yeah Or any number killer Well bro We got some things to talk about today Why? You don't have to if we don't want We have total freedom We can do what we want
Starting point is 00:03:16 What the producers have Unclenched their fists It's Halloween so I finally dealt with them If you know what I'm saying I asked them Hey J.R. producer, trick or treat? Did they get tricked or treated? Let's just say
Starting point is 00:03:34 they got a form of trick that they might not be coming back from. That's quite explicit. Before we get too deep into the show, let me shout out of the JAR media patrons over at the Patreon. They make the audio version of the show possible. But that's not all.
Starting point is 00:03:57 They get that raw, unfiltered, spicy MP3. Raw. Raw. Ra. Yeah, that's up on the Patreon. Normally a few hours early as well on the day that I chucked that one up there. As well as Ja after hours on Patreon. The sort of 10, 15 minute after moment.
Starting point is 00:04:22 if there's a few questions that are running long or something that just feels right. Like today we're going to do one, a little discussion on Shadow of the Erd Tree, I finally finished it. It's not going to be locked away to Patreon forever just for a few weeks until there's a bit of a backlog. Months or years. Months or years, yes, yes. And of course, last but not least, the JAR Media Group chat, an ongoing chat with the Jarlings where they can, before I record I'll put a message out there saying hey
Starting point is 00:04:54 anything we should talk about today and they will supply straight to the veins the scary Halloween veins you know does that make sense? Does all that makes sense sometimes I sound a little bit crazy when I hear myself alone
Starting point is 00:05:09 I think relatively yes do you think I should compliment it with a little Yeah thing is it's like a chucky type a chucky i was trying to do my joker that would be my joker laugh ha ha ha ha ha yeah that's pretty good actually you could be an injustice or something oh the injustice joker yeah what would your joker laugh be I'd um I'd I go
Starting point is 00:05:40 just a joker that goes yeah just does a little snort out of his nose no I go oh it's more like the snide the snide joker I
Starting point is 00:05:59 I keep getting that clip from the Justice League where Batman's like and trust me I will fucking kill you the best scene ever yeah and and the caption is always like fucking most legendary scene of all time yeah and trust me i will fucking kill you it's just like the lamest shit of ever seen such an awesomely bad scene yeah i think it might be one of the worst things ever filmed you're kind of a pushy huh batman i'll fucking kill you oh man it's so hilarious and the close-up play it's shot so awkwardly close on the faces mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:06:38 Batman's like stiff cowl I will kill yeah it's pretty cool and people used to make fun of the you know the dark night joke oh Batman the Christian Bale yeah yeah every single YouTube joke from like 2008 to 2015 With Batman in, that was... Yeah, that was... Oh, Muthamama. What did you say, that?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Ah, the good old times, some call it. The pure times. Before Batflik came in and... Before politics existed. Well, speaking of politics... Well, I'm done. Oh, yeah. Got you.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That was just a little trick, Halloween trick. But I'm going to pluck. and go into the housekeeping right now we round out some of those conversations from the previous week and also pluck a couple from the aforementioned JAR Media Group chat
Starting point is 00:07:43 like this one from Mr. Blue Pumpkin and bro you brought some controversy some much needed jar traversy actually Nope you know don't you? Yeah I know hang on let me just grab my prop
Starting point is 00:07:57 mhm I need him to keep me calm for this discussion. He says, Jim needs to be punished for this Kung Fu Panda take. I can't handle the dark. No, I can handle the Dark Souls 2 hate, but this is unacceptable. You can even see how distraught Alexes
Starting point is 00:08:19 when Jim spouted his film. Although this being his biggest L in Jha history is quite impressive, given how long Jha has been running. Biggest L in JAR history. Um, what say you, kachow
Starting point is 00:08:33 hmm i've i find it interesting that the people can't even have their own opinions nowadays like this is your fault you're you're sending me down the the right wing pipeline you're radicalized by yeah i've i've been radicalized because all you liberals think the same you know you're the first person to be radicalized by kung fu panda no there's been so fucking many um
Starting point is 00:09:00 I mean, I'm just saying how I feel, you know, because we had that whole discussion about movies, right? And my main, you know, gauge of how much I like a film is how much it makes me feel, right? Kung Fu Panda doesn't really move the bar. Is it like one of these, right? When something connects, you want to go like, go on, son. Yes, yeah, that's exactly it. Or you want to be like... Sorry for the audio listens there, but I had to...
Starting point is 00:09:37 This prop is just inspiring me to get all physical today. Yeah, no, I like the dynamism. Oh, good word, dinosaurism. Yeah. But yeah, I just remember watching Kung Fu Panda One the last time I watched it. And not really... Did you move the needle? I wasn't particularly moved.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Really? like emotionally in any capacity the emotion isn't centered around poe as much in that movie it's more the villain who i uh i messed up the booze six three yeah yeah yeah Alex mixing up tai long and kai lang from mass effect is hilarious that's fair i'll give you that one um obviously kai lang right that's is that the kai lang sucks kai lang is troy baker So it's Thai Lung
Starting point is 00:10:29 Is the cool Kung Fu Panda Tiger Yeah, Kai Leng Thai Tiger That's an easier way of remembering it, I guess He's a cool villain And he's got the emotional arc of the film I would say You know, and Dustin Hoffman's Panda or whatever
Starting point is 00:10:44 What are they called? You know, them little things that he is Rat Yeah, he's a little rat guy Yeah He's got charisma Yeah The music
Starting point is 00:10:56 music's good laying down the the emotional center is um turtle hmm but then he kills himself halfway through the film yeah which is emotional yeah but then then you've got the second half to get through and it's like yeah no then it shifts to uh tai lung then kai lang breaks out of the citadel or fucking whatever the chase is an amazing scene there's loads of really good action scenes there's that one there's the chopstick action scene is really good I always agree that it's unevenly weighted as far as how good the action scenes are placed like it kind of fizzles out in the final one with the skidooosh yeah um i get why you know the climax isn't very effective that's where the most like emotion needs to be in any
Starting point is 00:11:47 film and it's why i think two is better than one as well yeah that's what started this whole journey. I remember sitting in the flat for some reason putting on Kung Fu Panda 2. No, it's because we did the, I achieved Little Panda Fighter like trying to watch and I made a video around about that time. And then I rewatched Kung Fu Panda 2 and 1. And as a response to that to remind myself like, what are these movies even like? I can't remember. And then yeah, it was from watching two and being like, go on son. Come on my son. yeah that really sort of yeah
Starting point is 00:12:27 cemented it in my heart forever and then I went through like an obsessive phase of listening to the entire soundtrack maybe because I'm pretty sure I saw Kung Fu Panda 2 before I ever saw Kung Fu Panda 1 really? Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:42 did I show you it or something? Yeah because you were like dude this film is like the best I think it's my favorite film of all time and I was like shit okay I'll watch it so we watched it and then
Starting point is 00:12:54 went back and watched coming through Pounder 1, I guess. And nothing. You know? Not nothing. And coming through Pounder 3 can actually eat my sandwich. Bro, you haven't even seen 4? Oh yeah, 4 came out. Oh my god. Aquafino.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Fox? Furbate fox? No. Nah. I'm still upset about that. Because I saw DreamWork's newest movie, the Wild Robo. bot which everyone's raving about and it was cute and looks amazing that's the main thing
Starting point is 00:13:29 what's the film with Rihanna in it oh home and Jinkies or whatever he's called Bazinga that's that's a 3D printed movie that one you know yeah in fact that's an insult to 3D printer at least you can 3D print something useful a gun to kill yourself after watching yeah so do you have any uh any apologies for the slanders I can't help what I feel and I'm just telling you what I feel
Starting point is 00:14:00 you know I I appreciate that and like I'm not saying that these merits don't exist I'm saying that they they just don't you know make me feel alive oh another really good action scene
Starting point is 00:14:17 the one on the bridge in the first movie against the Furious 5 really or is that in the second No, that's the first one. Good out scene. You know what's better? What? The wheel.
Starting point is 00:14:31 The wheel? Yeah. From the Paris, the Caribbean. No, they're on that wagon that's like slowly falling apart in the second one. Yeah, yeah, that's an awesome scene too. And the building coming down and... Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 It goes crazy and the cannonball. Yeah. So Jim's wrong this first. Fine. Everyone's wrong sometimes, but... I'm not wrong. Twy 87 says, Alex's body language and condescending attitude reflects his ongoing regression back into the IHE persona. Marked by words, by this time next year, he'll be sat off screen again,
Starting point is 00:15:09 lauding it over us peasants. Saying that, I'll take the official IHE account off his hands for £0.49 pence. The highest offer I've got so far is £20. So I'm tempted. That's like a Sammy's Cabab That's like two
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah that's probably what it's worth Oh no You know the thing about him You know these pictures of Elon jumping No you've told me about this You haven't seen any of them Doing his little baby toddler jumps He's doing it again and again
Starting point is 00:15:45 Because what happens when you jump in the air You turn it to an axe Oh I get really imagine making that somehow lamer like it sounds lame and baby already that this grown-house man billionaire richest man in the world is jumping up and down like an excited toddler who's just seen Kung Fu Panda 2 for the first time and it's also a he's just obsessed with X it's weird space x x dot com. Sam Will 1999 kind of, I guess, proves his comment right, saying, watch an episode of jar. Take a shot of vodka every time one of them says Elon Musk. Get bloody wankered.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Do we talk about him that much, or is it like... No. He's just making it up. Yeah. Shut up, Sam. Shut up, Musk. Um, Hise 147 said, he's back. Cuts to Wallace walking into the jar set via.
Starting point is 00:16:52 an end game portal that would be hype no surely it should be Wallace coming in through the portal then he says he's back yeah you could do that it's like first half an hour of a movie is like
Starting point is 00:17:07 Gromit all alone because Wallace has died oh sheesh and then he's like on your left on your left Grumit on your Wednesdaysdale
Starting point is 00:17:19 Grumit Yeah, we'll get that one day Bad Bad Chacha says Halo was good once In quotes Yeah, okay grandpa Let's get you back to bed I read that comment
Starting point is 00:17:32 And um Gave it a like Well it It kind of like Stanlocked me Because it's so true Yeah You okay grandpa
Starting point is 00:17:44 Let's get you back to bed Yeah No, please, believe me I was right once It's gonna be reality You know When I'm playing GTA 6 in A retirement home
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah Um Unless uh in this segment with Actually know there's two more I want to do here Gebby of the Boreal Valley says To either of you or Jim watch Eldon Ring law videos I beat the game once and feel like I know
Starting point is 00:18:15 F all Did you guys learn the law from multiple play-throughs or was it through law videos or any combination of both? Both. Thanks, my lovelies. I've watched them, but I haven't really retained any of it. I've only just, like, caught up to Sekaro Law. Like, because I've recently replayed a bunch of it when I got the projector and was like, oh, that's what this environment is. That's what these monks are doing. Like, I never, I never really, like, thought about it, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:18:42 They were quite obtuse stories. It's not demanded of you to even engage with it. You can engage with it as much as you want to. Yeah, and I have watched like some Meldon Ring Law videos, but I haven't I can't say I've retained any of it. Mostly because I'm so bad with names and remembering names.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Rani, Rinala. Rala Now. Mikhail, is that one? Mickelor. Mikala. But then there's so many names, and I can't. Radan.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. do you like know the out and ring story and all that kind of stuff yeah yeah I mean Vati is obviously the place to go yeah um I kind of get you though like I don't really know the context or necessarily feel like I need to know it's almost it's almost fun feeling like just overwhelmed by like what the hell's even going on well yeah it can be like a more in some more immersive yeah yeah it's it's the my first play-throughs are always blind um i just want a quick try and find some so there's a few channels that they're just so good give me an overview what so everything's about the tree right
Starting point is 00:19:59 the erd tree well where do you want to start i thought that was like i don't i don't know before the urge tree in every single miyazaki game pretty much there's ancient dragons right. So like for Ramazula, that place you go in the storm right at the end, that was like the original capital. The, do you remember Placidu Sax? Yeah. The dragon at the end of time, he was the original Eldon Lord, right? But then like even before that...
Starting point is 00:20:42 What does being an Eldon Lord even mean? You're like the one who is like the figurehead of the world? Yeah. The fantasy land. From what I understand that the elder lord like chooses the values and the it's always in eras. But through like through magic through just like through power, you're like granted it. So the, the, the, it's like a blessing. I think because the law from the DLC adds more so something arrived from space
Starting point is 00:21:24 which was like a a what do you call it? Is that what that weird bug thing if I know that that comes later because that's the that underground society yeah they used to be above ground but they upset the um what do they call it the greater will which is like the the god so there are gods yeah but but it's more like um lovecraftian they're like they're like aliens they're it's all to do with the stars and shit you know so there's there's kind of gods but they're not gods, they're above gods, because Marica is a god. And those are the stakes of Marika that you like help on.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, so she's, she's the one who is also, is it Radavid? Yeah. So there's Radavid, Radon. No, Radagon, sorry, Radavid is the Witcher. Radigan. Radigan and Marica are the same person, but they're separate beings, the same way St. Trina and Mickelor are one person, but separate, like, entities. I got none of this from playing none. What's the tree about then?
Starting point is 00:23:08 I thought the tree was like the, everything. The erd tree. So the Erd Tree grew from the last boss. Grew from? Yeah, like he sent down this meteor or whatever. This greater will. See, there's theories now that the greater will isn't even like a sentient thing. It's more like...
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like a Big Bang type of event? Yeah, it's more like just the causality of the universe. the greater will So A starting point Yeah or like just the Just time You know
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like events that happen It's the greater will So there's debates amongst The people telling the stories But yeah This tree grows Um Which
Starting point is 00:24:07 So it's like a magic tree A godly tree almost Yeah I mean I need to If I can have a refresh but it's crazy you can remember all this though all these all these videos because you can have a whole hour and a half video just on the dragons or a whole you can have like a whole hour long video just on a type of enemy like it goes so fucking deep but they all overlap and
Starting point is 00:24:35 shit so trying to get a coherent timeline of what happened because there's also like a period where they it was called like the crucible where life was just like all life was just the same thing in like a melting pot like there were the unity distinctions um yeah and there's the the horned guys who get like they used to be worshipped but then in the current age they're like stuck underground. What about like, what's he called? Star Scourge Redan or something? Star something.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Star Scourge. Star Scourge Radan. What's on his tiny horse? What's that about? So he, do you remember I said Marika and Radagon are the same body but different people? Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Marica is the king. And this is when it's obvious that, George Aramarton helped write it. Yeah. Because she incest with herself. Okay. Of course there's incest somewhere. So while she was with, do you remember, uh, Horo Lou?
Starting point is 00:25:59 He's like the penultimate boss. What's he looked like? The topless guy, he's like shredded and he does wrestling moves on you. So he was the original Eldon Lord of the Golden Era. And. Radagon was like the head of the military and he was going to war
Starting point is 00:26:18 with that magic castle okay right and then he the lady yeah Rinala yeah he ends up marrying her
Starting point is 00:26:27 and having kids um Rani Radan and the snake guy whose name is the snake boss thing
Starting point is 00:26:42 yeah the big snake he was a heretic and he fed himself to a god-eating snake so that it would grow stronger so that we have faced on it is him yeah right okay what's his fucking name that's annoying me so yeah um but then Radagon leaves Rinala to marry Marica
Starting point is 00:27:06 himself Star Sedge Radan being technically related to the golden lineage can become a god or can he maybe not but he's good at magic and shicks
Starting point is 00:27:28 his mum is a magician lady his dad he does a bunch of like a meteor type yeah so attacks yeah that's why he's on his tiny horse because he loves his horse so he learned gravity
Starting point is 00:27:43 magic so that he could stay on his horse but it's like it's so old and dying. Yeah, yeah, but he like levitates above it so he's not actually like crushing it. Right. Yeah, and he do you remember after the boss fight
Starting point is 00:28:00 a meteor comes down? Oh yeah. And blows up like a hole. I guess minor spoilers for Eldon Ring. Yeah, sorry. But yeah, that's because DRC stuff. He's frozen all of time, like, in space.
Starting point is 00:28:19 He's frozen the movement of the stuff. Like, that's how powerful he is. You're fighting him while he's got Scarlet Rot, and he's frozen all of the stars in their space. Right, Scarlet Rot as well. Yeah, because then there's the fucking... I always forget that boss's name, like the hardest boss in the game.
Starting point is 00:28:43 the lady I will solo her oh god let me solo with an name as well yeah because it's mcculler's sister if I just put Eldham ring mhm McKett my hardest boss um Maliketh no Malaketh no Malenia Yeah, yeah, millennia. So Melania and Mickelor um, are the kids of Radagon and Marika, right? The incest, same person. And that's, it's theorized because she had children with herself.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That's why both of her kids are like fucked up. They're all messed up. Because Micler can't age, so it was forever a child. And Melania has the scarlet rock. Yeah, so then... It was Reichard, by the way. Reichard, yeah. Lord of blasphemy, I guess, blasphemy being him betraying them somehow, going against.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah. What he's supposed to. So then... How much... How much of this first did you get, do you have to watch videos to understand this? How much did you understand from like the cutscenes and whatnot? 10% if not less? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:26 So then like what's Moog, the omen? You have to start the DLC? He's the kid, he's the brother of the like first main boss of the game. okay um some moge and more free and godrick no more got remember he's got like the stick and he's got the big piss hammer yellow oh yeah big hammer so morgot and mog brothers they're the kids of horolew america so are then are the like naming conventions that when they tend to start with the same letter they're from the same family yeah it's it's just like um yeah it's like Tyrion Tywin so yeah I probably should have I don't know paid more
Starting point is 00:31:18 attention to that so I was I was trying to pay attention early on but then yeah when it was like Godfrey and God Rick and he's kind of similar looking dudes or whatever I was like I can't keep up with these people I don't know who who is who and doesn't as you said doesn't really matter to your experience of actually playing the game like um yeah um and then what about the giants there's like a big implication with the like that was one thing I picked up with the map design and whatnot it's like this giant skulls and like big skeletons of like giant people the giants were the giants were like an ancient species like early man um they're like nearly extinct
Starting point is 00:32:01 type thing and i think i think it was radagon yeah or radagon descended from them because like in that in the olden ring law if you have red hair you descended from the giants because they're like the fire giants that's like Game of Thrones too there's a whole giant thing yeah and they're all up in the the northern mountainous part um but radagon like they they ward the golden guys ward with the giants because the giants with the ones with the only thing that could burn the edge tree okay which the story does explicitly show you yeah yeah and there's like when you're exploring the world there are these giant troll things like walking around are they like undead giants or something they I think
Starting point is 00:33:00 they're more like um slaves they look kind of like zombies they yeah they they're not giants I think the trolls teamed up with humans to beat the giants. Okay. But they're not like respected and shit. You see them with like big chains in their backs. Yeah, they're like pulling around and... Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I mean, that's all very interesting when it's explained to me like that. Dude, the, the elder, the elder ring, um, the... Which out of the Souls games do you like the lore of the most? like do you still like dark souls more as far as like just the story and world i think because most people i feel like like bloodborns one the most bloodborns is really cool it's cool but i i don't find that sort of um era quite as interesting I prefer more like old school fantasy. I really like Dark Souls 1.
Starting point is 00:34:21 It's... I think Dark Souls 1 might have the best stories. Like the characters in the game. Yeah, yeah. Um... So yeah. So, yeah. Eldon Ring is really good.
Starting point is 00:34:41 All the lore. Like, you can, and I have, legit, just sat, watched a video as if it was a movie. Mm. Like, for the entirety. And Vati has, like, some, where he goes through
Starting point is 00:34:57 the storyline of a character. Mm-hmm. And there's, like, fight scenes and shit, and he's explained. He's, like, a narrator. It's so cool. Because I've always liked the, the tree being like a central important thing
Starting point is 00:35:11 with the world and like when you're underground you find its roots and stuff like that I love that kind of thing yeah yeah because that's like their whole culture of death is that you want to return to the earth tree when you die like you're giving it it's feeding it to it yes all those dungeons in the game of which there are many
Starting point is 00:35:34 100 billion they're all like graves where people want to be buried right if you're not buried there then man that's crazy I feel like we do like three hours on that alone yeah no genuinely I mean it if you tallied up the runtime of Vati's videos just his not including like every other YouTuber yeah of which there are many good ones it's like seasons and seasons and seasons of the TV show or something. It's tens of tens of hours. Um, and they're gonna be more succinct than me. Well, um, we can return to Elder Ring and Jaffe to hours. Talk about that D.L.C. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:36:24 first we'll see after these messages for some questions. Yeah. Life can be a dick sometimes. So get your dick from out your hand. And don't be a dick. Wear a dick. Dick the Head t-shirts available now. Check the description below. Yeah. Welcome to the second half of the broadcast, so we head over to the suggestion thread over on the Jail Media subreddit. Not Fnaf. Not Fnaf. Although do go over there and have a little look around because it's always popping off and growing scarily. Yeah. FNAF. FNAF. FNAF. So, let's start with this one from Goldfire, VI.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Question for Alex or Randy, if he's available. What are your thoughts on Edgar writes George Lucasing, Sean of the Dead, with the new remastered release of the movie? If you haven't heard, he's taken the scene where Sean slips on blood in the shop and added an actual visible blood pool that wasn't in the original. I personally don't see the point in making this change as the scene was already perfect as it is. But I also don't think it really matters that much, like some hyperbolic monkeys on the internet seem to think. Weird. My gut says, like, why? Why?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Maybe it just bugged him. Yeah, but isn't that kind of part of it, but it's like, that is filmmaking. You're not always going to be able to get every single meticulous detail, and it's been released, it's connected with people, for what it is then. Yeah, but you can now. But I know the shot is the moment he's talking about and it's like Surely it almost hurts the believability of the scene more Because it's like he's like in his own world ignoring the craziness around him Is it when he's hung over?
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah, when he goes to the shop right and he like slips at a certain point I don't know I'd have to see it for myself to see how distracting it is so maybe I wouldn't even noticed if it wasn't pointed out to me but just on a principle thing that was changed I think so as far as I'm aware but why even play with it you just
Starting point is 00:38:48 leave it or a can of worms yeah why even open that can of worms and if you're going to I just want to make sure there's options to always have both options you know unlike the Star Wars thing you just can't see it without finding the despecialized versions or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. Are they not even on Disney? No. That's bad. Yeah. Uh, no haj has a Jim question. I was going to play through the Arkham games for the first time soon. Jim recently poo-pooed on Arkham Origins,
Starting point is 00:39:20 but I went back and looked at your old jar of you, and you're both really positive. Where do you stand on this game nowadays? Has your opinion on it lowered significantly? Yes. I was trying to think about this earlier where I think that game is, in a vacuum, it's fine as like a Batman game. Like if the Arkham games didn't exist and that was the only Arkham game, it would be like, it's like a cool Batman game. It'll be good.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You know, it's like on the level of like the Spider-Man games to me, probably. But it's just not as good as, it's not as tight as the Arkham games. No, that's the thing. I, because they're all out so last time I was on a Batman thing I played at Arkham Asylum
Starting point is 00:40:11 straight into Arkham City was like whoa goddamn straight onto Arkham Knight whoa this is way better than I remember stopped halfway through
Starting point is 00:40:22 Arkham Knight wait a minute one came out between these two better go buy that and jump on quick did that jumped on and I was like on Steam yeah doesn't have like a really notoriously bad port or is that night or both night night had a really bad port i think
Starting point is 00:40:38 they both did um they're fine now they're like right uh i just know of being bug by you have these like this charging bar with these like electric gloves that was just like an instant wind move yeah and that being lame they've made they made a few like little adjustments that it's like why mm you know some of them i'm cool with um little footsteps in the snow that's quite nice uh i like i like the stance he goes into when like he's surrounded by bad guys because normally in he it's just like funny batman right stand there really stiffly yeah yeah which is kind of like a cool in its own way you know like he's so unfazed he can just snap into any position at any point but this is a
Starting point is 00:41:28 younger Batman, this is like a less experience, more scrappy guy, so he goes into the stunt. Looks kind of cool. Then there's stuff that like slows the gameplay down. And this might sound hyper-specific. But in, in Arkham City, they introduced this mechanic where you do a stun, dodge into them, and you like run up their body and then jump on them, like pound them when they're using a shield. That's how you get past them. But if you dodge again while stood on them, you can jump onto another guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And slam him instead. In Arkham City, it's just like up and slam. In Arkham Origins, you like run up them, drop onto them, and then stand there for a second and hit them again while they're down. And it doesn't knock them out, I'm pretty sure. And all the while, you can be hit while that's happening. Whereas, like, as a rule in all the other games, there are certain things you can do that negate that from being a possibility. You can't get hurt. You can give yourself a breather by doing certain actions.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And that tiny oversight really, really annoyed me. It's one of those things that sounds small, but the more you play at a certain level, the more annoying. Yeah, and you pick up more and more stuff like it. and like they made the stealth too easy with the the claw thing where you can just shoot that's right the gargoy and a guy and it just sucks him up to it you know and then there's the gloves which makes every combat scenario sounds like spider-man uh stealth which sucks yeah yeah really boring yeah um insanely boring um Akam origin stealth isn't like awful by any means it's not as bad as spider-man no um i remember like the boss is being good yeah the boss is a memorable kind of like
Starting point is 00:43:27 like set pieces the open world sucks though it's it's such a drag to go around yeah I remember nothing about actually they have um they have like the towers that's right the Ubisoft towers yeah so you've like go in and do a radio thing and
Starting point is 00:43:43 it's just more like derivative design yeah less creative less its own thing but I still wouldn't call it a bad game no I don't I don't hate it it's just it really
Starting point is 00:43:57 disappointed me because my memories were really solid of it um and i may still go back and play it because like the the story and stuff is quite fun um i death stroke right if i were playing the arkin games for the first time i'd maybe say start with it really start with origins asylum will be weird to go back to but you'll get the hang of it and um yeah appreciate it for what it is and then city you'll fucking blow your mind okay let's freaking go
Starting point is 00:44:37 that's freaking freaking freaking answer this one from fair ad 5082 hello jarwood I recently deleted all my social media mostly because I realized I only had one life and didn't want to spend it completely dead to the world but partially because my feed had been completely taken over by conspiracy theorists
Starting point is 00:44:56 This is totally my own fault as I created this feedback loop by watching slash sharing these when I saw them as they got increasingly unhinged and hilarious. Highlights include someone claiming that anchovies and centipedes were actually the same thing. Another claim was that the reason why all 21st century men are such spineless beta males, not my words, is literally because the two at the start of their birth year imbues them with feminine energy. This got to the point where I felt like I was totally losing my faith in the survival of the human race So then I had to exit the rhythm Have you had any experience with this kind of rabbit hole slash do you think there is a noticeable
Starting point is 00:45:37 societal trend of everyone completely losing their minds case and point Russell Brand is now selling a hundred and eighty quid Amulets to protect you from Wi-Fi from touch grass enjoya Have you seen that? No He's full-on like snake oil salesman Grifter now like he is the snake or salesman from red though like he's doing exactly that makes sense for him uh-huh he's always had the the gift of the gab what a fucking clown yeah at least clowns can be funny though mostly scary yeah mostly scary which i suppose he's good at doing as well um yeah i've i've never had like my algorithm
Starting point is 00:46:23 turn into that that level. No, not that severely. Not like the... I mean, that sounds like Eldon Ring lore, the like anchovies and centipedes were actually the same thing a millennia ago.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah. That's more Sackero law, actually. Yeah, you're right. I... I've dabbled, I'd say. In the conspiracy... Like in a trolley kind of way,
Starting point is 00:46:50 like this guy? Like, ever been like... Hang on a minute. it more like maybe this is real you know when when you stand in front of a mirror no like in the dark with the candles you're like you know maybe maybe if I said this three times oh right except when I have that thought I just do it and then it doesn't happen yeah but like a little part of you is like kind of like I kind of hope it is real
Starting point is 00:47:16 you know just because it'll be crazy yeah yeah um just because it'll be crazy yeah it'll be like more interesting if it if it was true you know um just this Monday I was in the gym listening to a conspiracy theory video
Starting point is 00:47:35 what was the subject I don't know if I can say I might get bad it pertains to a a Hollywood power couple and it's like this shit ain't real but
Starting point is 00:47:57 you know it's definitely a phenomena that has been exacerbated by the internet oh god yeah but also talking to people who who straight up believe everything they read and there are more of those anything. They're very common.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah. You would tell that story about that dude when you worked in that pub, right? Yeah, yeah. Carried documents around. Yeah. I mean, he was the most extreme. He's the most extreme I've ever met. But other people, it's just like regurgitating shit. What's that website? And that was pre-COVID, right?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Or was that mid-COVID? It would have been pre-COVID. That's crazy. I wasn't really there. Because it really went out of control around 2020. yeah maybe maybe it was maybe it was 2020 it could have been but I doubt it um yeah I don't think it was um mom talks about she's got this friend back in New Zealand that's always sending her stuff on Facebook it's like the 15 minute city conspiracies and like electric cars there are conspiracies to control you to limit like how far you can travel and like this kind
Starting point is 00:49:10 of thing um yeah it's bonkers it's like actually unhinged yeah and that that sort of stuff isn't interesting to me it's so dumb it's like so ridiculously stupid yeah yeah yeah but the the more out there it is like the moon landing right yeah ridiculously obviously did happen yeah but it would be fucking impressive if it didn't you know but like did you see um i think i saw a clip on twitter of it matt walsh went on joe rogan oh yeah you've seen yeah yeah yeah where he says the and this was matt walsh yeah like you don't really believe that do you joe yeah and it's right after because like he contradicts himself i can't remember what they're talking about
Starting point is 00:50:03 a different conspiracy and then switch to yeah yeah i can't remember what the other one was but wound up with no because they're talking about flat earth that's right yeah and and joe is like so you believe all these governments like agree and believe that this happened or that this is the case like that they're working together to tell everyone that the earth is round when it's actually flat yeah and then he talks about the moon landing and he's like well what if it is what if it didn't happen it's like well surely China would be like yeah you get man it gets really messed up when it's someone with that influence yeah yeah spreading that kind of thing because it really has an effect on people it really does mm-hmm because you know
Starting point is 00:50:59 you couldn't spread these idiot ideas like before the internet you know you couldn't create these little micro communities around these hyper specific conspiracy theories and we'll egg each other on and share your sources and whatnot and just spread the insanity. Yeah. And like the pyramid shit, man. The pyramid stuff. And yeah, because I really feel like people like Joe Rogan have sped up this stuff. You know, always having like Graham Hancock on and...
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, there's an obsession. Although I do like the alien stuff. That's very fun. Well, it's like, yeah, I, I like engaging with it just on like a purely hypothetical, this is like fun, just... Yeah, that's exactly, that's silly, that's what I'm saying. But it's, a lot of people don't treat it that way, they treat it as real, and then they'll start forming real-life opinions around it and, like, their worldview around these things. And it's like, even if, like, some of it was true, my thing is just like, okay, like, how's, like, how's the fact going to? have had my life right now you know yeah it's like simulation theory yeah yeah it's like oh we know
Starting point is 00:52:15 now yeah it's like a philosophical exercise thought exercise but once you finish the thoughts then it's gone and you're just back to boring old yeah yeah it's definitely been more and more of a thing so i just really don't feel like it wasn't as intrusive early internet oh no it was it was it was memed. Yeah. It existed, but it was a... It's more fringe, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Whereas now you'll just see like a, yeah, a TikTok or a YouTube short of just some straight up conspiracy theory. Yeah. I mean, the amount of people... There's more people that believe the Earth is flat now. Yeah. Than like 2,000 years ago. No, that's not right
Starting point is 00:53:08 Um Let's do two more here Before we wrap up nearly it now already Shludit says I'm hereby submitting a formal request To Jamie Beltman May I use your fat roller coce roller chair Let me try that again May I use your fat roller chair bound doctor
Starting point is 00:53:28 As a character in my story I like to write slightly absurdist stuff Influenced by guys like Kurt Vonnegut and Thomas Feikin, my mistake if I said that wrong, even a little Wes Anderson for a film reference. I think that irony and comedy of a doctor so fat he only travels by chair would be perfect for my tone. FYI, regardless of your response, I would be shamelessly stealing this idea. Thank you. The only thing I'd say is that it's obviously not absurd because it's just real.
Starting point is 00:53:58 It's real. But that's like another thing where some... With the creative writing, you almost have to be less insane than what is real. Because, like, you watch these documentaries that, I don't know, show a story that happened to somebody that is so, I'm so unbelievable that you can't only believe it because it's in a documentary and there's like proof of it. Yeah. And it's like, real. And if it wasn't a fictional narrative, you'd be like, that's just dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It's like a delicate balance with that kind of thing. Yeah, the world. has bad writing Yeah Inconsistent characters Yeah Randomness that's unpredictable Coincidences
Starting point is 00:54:45 Coincidences galore Yeah Yeah Um so Do you give them permission Whatever If I'm if you put If you put Jim's name
Starting point is 00:54:58 Somewhere in it You call the fat Dr Jim Dr Jim Dr Jim Yeah Okay That's a good little ode.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Bath tub Tom has this. Hi Jar. Something I've been thinking about a lot lately is the current irony epidemic we're living in. I've seen numerous artists and creators complain about this online where very little meaningful discourse is being had about art slash politics in favour of sarcastic responses, memes and one-liners. This makes it incredibly hard to engage with things like films or music when a large amount of the discourse online is occupied by ironic response.
Starting point is 00:55:35 and a lack of sincere thought and opinions. I've even been finding this is in real life. Some people I met at uni only ever engage with things with surface-level ironic jokes, and in some cases I feel like I don't actually know anything about them. I'm all for a good giggle, but I really feel like this lack of sincerity and unwillingness to truly care is detrimental to our lives. I blame a lot of it on social media and algorithms that reward outrageous slash extreme slash funny stuff. Sorry for the long one, lads. Cheers. No need to apologize. That was the perfect length.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I think of that one. I think you're just British. It's part of what bugs me about like the Pandora's box, I guess, like, Rick and Morty open, the apathy. Dead poor thing where it's like, you're not allowed to be sincere. It would be too risky to be sincere. It is a risk, but I don't know, being genuine is like a little bit hard, you know. Isn't that the issue with it, though, right? Like, it's, it is hard to be genuine. But if you're, if you're like, if you build into the fact that your shit sucks.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a built-in shield. Yeah. Um. But that's what I mean. Like, that's, that's why being genuine is hard. Because you have to be like... But I've met people like this before where they have that dial up so high.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Where it's like, yeah, I genuinely don't know like who you are or what you believe at all. Because all you do, all you can possibly say is like a irony quip. And it's like, it's funny in little doses, but it's like, yeah, you do that for a little bit. Then you say your real opinion or whatever and then you have a conversation. Mm-hmm. Maybe, maybe these people don't want conversations. Maybe. But there is also like,
Starting point is 00:57:45 I do like a lot of the irony humor. If I'm being real. It's funny. Like Deadpool. Is it even ironic humor then? I don't even know what irony is. No one does. It's not even real.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I thought it was an element. A conspiracy. I thought it was on the periodic table Real irony is like An actual Like a writing technique Dramatic irony is like what you want a lot of the time For like a real punchy
Starting point is 00:58:20 Scene or Romeo and Juliet There you go Thank you brother bring it back to Shakespeare Always always always Macbeth Macbeth Woo
Starting point is 00:58:33 A midsummer's night Night Midsummer's Night dream Or something A midsummer's night dream Shakespeare Part 2 Shakespeare
Starting point is 00:58:48 He only did three players, right? One and a half And anyway It was all ghost written by aliens Yeah, it was ghost written by the pyramids Yeah, I don't know There is no answer It's more so it's more the
Starting point is 00:59:08 The sincerity thing Yeah But if you want sincerity Threaten them It's why like the Marvel dialogue Is like a meme at this point Yeah You're undercutting the sincerity
Starting point is 00:59:21 With like It's right behind me Isn't it? Yeah I've got guns As arms You know Key is
Starting point is 00:59:35 fucking bumblebee i've got sword arms that was another thing yeah people in the comments like it's actually kind of fiber of shut the fuck up fucking that better be irony i'm gonna watch it fuck you i've just got to be part of the conversation just ironically though yeah yeah because what it's like um going to the cinema to see despicable me fucking nine right but most people
Starting point is 01:00:09 do love them no but if I went in like in my head it would be like they know I'm only going as a joke right
Starting point is 01:00:18 you know it is like a protective barrier you know yeah but I guess it's like a measurement of I've never seen
Starting point is 01:00:28 a despicable me movie in the cinema I don't think I have just being post ironic actually um but like When I inevitably go and see Venom 3, the last dance, for example.
Starting point is 01:00:42 There will be some sick level of enjoyment, probably. You're just saying you're going to like the movie. No, but that's what I'm saying. It's not a sincere enjoyment of the film. It's like, it's at both of our expenses, where I'm like... You're paying. I'm paying, so I'm saying, as a customer, customer make more yeah but I'm going and the whole time I'm like this sucks but
Starting point is 01:01:10 this is awesome yeah like you're enjoying your time with it yeah like we both saw we both saw the Meg and the Meg 2 on the big screen yeah you know yeah that's true and there was definitely some sick twisted ironic enjoyment in there yeah but at that point I'd go as far as to say that the Meg is just a good film because of that the meg is just a good film about the meg part two no the meg part two sucks I hate that film first one is um
Starting point is 01:01:46 I don't know I do need to get letboxed the first one's like a four out of five yeah you gotta come back and bring some sincerity that fuck yeah yeah the mega's four
Starting point is 01:02:02 country pandas are fucking too yeah or like when I went to see megalopolis for example there was no part of me that really thought it was going to be great and my best hopes were that it would be funny ironically funny for more like the story around it existing and the craziness of self-funding such a piece of shit like that um more power to them Well yeah, so I don't know. Hang on. It's always a case by case basis.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Or whatever. Here we go. Okay. Irony. The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite. Typically for humorous or... Oh, so it's kind of sarcasm. Depole.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Are you going to watch it? What, Deadpool? Deadpool 3. Maybe. Probably. And will that be a sincere watch? No. I guess I didn't mention I've seen it on JAR.
Starting point is 01:03:23 That's all you need to say. I've seen it. It's one of the biggest movies. I didn't say anything about it. Okay. I thought Gambit was really funny. But you love Chaneg Tateng. I do quite like him.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I find him funny. I find him funny. Honestly, my biggest problem is just, it's just the ugliest piece of shit. Visuals. It really bugs me. It's like, why is I have to look this bad? It looks so unbelievably ugly and bad. Even if, like, you know, Hugh Jackman's...
Starting point is 01:04:03 Does it look? he does look good in it to be fair does it look worse than the other Deadpool movies it's been a while but it might actually look worse it was so uh sound stagey yeah yeah it's just like the lighting is like the same in like every scene and yeah the locations are so fake um and like when it goes into the the crazy action action and stuff it's just that sheen that look mm-hmm there was this shot that was going around of like I wouldn't spoil anything but towards the end of the movie this like dead boy Wolverine they like smash out the back of a bus and then stand there for a few seconds
Starting point is 01:04:50 and like they look like this rubber goo shit and it's like man I hate the way this looks um I think it was the free guy director as well um oh nice yeah I think it was him Sean Levy so i got a hate boner for that dude um hate his direction it's just completely carried by hugh jackman um you know he's a good wolverin can't deny he was a good wolverine um yeah i hate ryan reynolds style of um let's get in as many celebrities as we can that will be funny yeah like there's a video um an interview with him when he's explaining the process of, like, pitching Depple, Depple 2
Starting point is 01:05:41 with the X-Force bit when Brad Pitt is the joke, yeah. Yeah, and it's like, and then I'll get Brad Pitt. And everyone's like, yeah. You know, like, laughing and... Memberberry, crying and shit. It's not even Memberberry, it's like... It's just reference. It's...
Starting point is 01:05:58 It's the Big Bang Theory, the joke is the reference. Yeah, it's totally vapid. and it just means in like 10 years I mean I bet there's a bunch of people who saw it like younger people who were like who's that
Starting point is 01:06:15 oh for like Brad Pitt you man yeah like who yeah yeah what fucking relevant shit is Brad Pitt in now um train kill fast train like he the fuck is it yeah and 90% of
Starting point is 01:06:34 does he mention fucking green lantern uh I don't think they mention green lantern but they mention oranges Wolverine I think and there's a reference to the proposal
Starting point is 01:06:50 okay so it's like the same kind of joke at the expense of his career and how much it sucks But it's fine now because he's Deadpool, blah, so now he's untouchable. Did he go to Diddy's things? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:07:13 The character of Deadpool was at Diddy's Parties. Yeah, fucking time travel back to Diddy's Party, Deadpool. Undo that. Because like, the second one did have Josh Bowling in it, I guess. Yeah. He rocks. He rocks, man. No, that's the one from the Fast and the Furious.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Oh, um, Hobson Shore with Ryan Reynolds cameo. Fuck. I can't take it anymore, bro. This web of lies, or this web of truths, depending on which angle you see it through. Oh, you're gonna like nice pool, though, when you get to it. I've basically... You've seen the whole film. whole movie in shorts yeah yeah it kind of is one of those where it's like so many scenes
Starting point is 01:08:10 designed around like soying over uh you know yeah you fucking blade is back spoilers everyone everyone yeah lecture fucking fucking uh warhammer guy uh warhammer guy Henry Cavill as Wolverine for like a split second oh look it's Henry Cavill that's right ah yes funny he's there that's there's actually more of a joke to that than the Brad Pitt one because that was like a slight at DC right at least there's like a joke there okay I'm with you I like when there's actually like a joke yeah i mean a really good scene in the
Starting point is 01:09:00 where they like have a fight in like this family car it's probably the best scene in the movie I think I've seen the beginning of it where Wolverine just like has like a minute long speech about what devil sucks yeah yeah yeah and he's just spot on
Starting point is 01:09:17 yeah are you supposed to agree it's kind of that weird problem where if a character written to be annoying it's such a fine line and like all the characters around him are like you're so fucking annoying shut up like when it's like oh it's just true like you're unbearable um yeah but like i like in empire strikes back c3 pio kind of is that but i find that funny as
Starting point is 01:09:45 fuck yeah he's kind of the the you couldn't get more opposite to deadpool could you it's more sincere though yes like it's painfully sincere wow you brought that fucking all the way around back yeah yeah c3PO is the the the realest motherfucker has anyone ever said that before that string of words c3 pio is the realest motherfucker i saw an awesome picture of someone who'd done a couple's costume it was layer and c3 pio for some reason and the guy who was dressed as seen through me and he just felt like a yellow shirt on and like yellow trousers just like painted himself like yellow yeah um your gold or whatever um it's awesome I love it but yeah leave your favorite Deadpool cameo in the comments below
Starting point is 01:10:45 and uh leave your hopes and dreams for remember that show movie fights movie fights screen junkies yeah yeah yeah um it's only in my mind because uh yMS on his on his stream he watched the old movie fights that he was on in like 2015 or whatever um so it's a reminder because like yeah yeah it was so long ago um because i used to watch like movie fights a month yeah i did quite enjoyed it even if it was like goofy in retrospect yeah yeah it's very silly um And I forgot where I was going with that. YMS looked at his old ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Was this emotional? It was extremely emotional. Like, where were we? Movie fights. Deadpool movie fights. I remember them arguing over why Deadpool is going to be so far. They were like, what's the best moment from the trailer? I think the best moment was when he says the brown pants.
Starting point is 01:11:52 because he's all about poo That's right Yeah I was going to do let's do a movie fights Because they would remember they have segments where it was like Pitch your dream die hard prequel Right okay And then like whoever gets the points Wins the round or whatever for their best pitch
Starting point is 01:12:13 So I'm thinking like Deadpool 4 Deadpool 4 What is All dream pitch dream pitch Deadpool 4 to win their movie fights round here's mine right
Starting point is 01:12:30 Deadpool Deadpool and Spider-Man See that's where my lame ass head went straight away No but listen And Venom Oh shit It's like Tom Hardy Venom
Starting point is 01:12:45 Oh fuck that's hard to beat You don't even just explain what happens You don't even just explain what happens it you know the venom will go on Deadpool and there'd be like a whole Venomized Deadpool scene Oh shit The pop vinyl's fly off the shelves
Starting point is 01:13:00 Mm-hmm Everyone will be nutting themselves In the crowds Yeah Tom Holland can have a joke about his career You know Reynolds can joke about Tom Holland Like a Zendaya joke or something
Starting point is 01:13:18 Mm-hmm Yeah That's quite convincing. What about yours? Um You might have to take mine out. Okay, if I have to take it out, this is the end of the episode, again. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:33 If it just stops, then the Jim's one was too fucked to leave in. I was going to say, um... I'm

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