JAR Media Posdact - Joe Lo Truglio - JARCAST Episode 159

Episode Date: March 25, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good afternoon, good afternoon, good night. What the fuck was that, guys, Jesus. And good morning. He said good afternoon. You're supposed to say good afternoon, good morning, good evening, good night. I thought it's going to go, good afternoon, good afternoon, good afternoon. And go round and round and round and round. Okay, because that's a mistake.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Good afternoon morning, morning, evening on night, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Jarm Media POSD Act. Oh, a correct title for a change It's not the correct title Is it John Media Podcast Who's this do right next to me right here Is that Jordan right there It is Jordan? It's looking like it It's the homeboy
Starting point is 00:00:40 And there's your homeboy Alex over there as well Greetings Hasn't got out of bed He's only just pulled him out of bed He's too got his dressing going on You know Who sleeps in their dressing gown?
Starting point is 00:00:52 Alex does I'd like to start this podcast off By thanking the old Patrions The Patreon James has created this monster yeah you're no longer patrons you're the Patreon's yeah they are Patreon well to be honest there was another monster I created what's that Argy no seriously Argy he's so nice of me so respectful with me only bites me when he's when he's really on edge because of Billy the cat or you know
Starting point is 00:01:22 something like that however when Argy's around James holy howly how Holy hell is he prepared. Who is he laying next to? Because he's like, he's loving your energy right now. He's like looking around to see if there's something to... No, you just don't realize that dogs love me. I'm so good with dogs. Agi, he hates it and we fight.
Starting point is 00:01:45 But any day, when I walk through that dog, he's charging and he's so happy to see me. I've also made guys even more of a psycho. Great with dogs, I see. he's a border collie you know he's just hyper but he loves me what are we talking about on this episode
Starting point is 00:02:03 we are talking about the we finally caved we're gonna finally talk about the diplomatic state of Bosnia so
Starting point is 00:02:11 I don't know a single thing about Bosnia I do the question is is it a real place yes no Bosnia no way is it real
Starting point is 00:02:19 Bosnia Bosnia Bosnia yeah you just made it up maybe Balaia I believe that was a real place Bala is probably a real place, but Bosnia. Come on, James.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Get creative. Get more creative. There was a massive war in Bosnia, and there was loads of riches. There's a massive wars everywhere. No, but at the end of day, the important thing is that it's got really a fucked political system. And that's why, that's why, you know, I've said that for so long. Yep. It's a meme that's actually transcended jar, because it's a normal, it's a normal meme now.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I've seen it, you know, non-jar-related, just memes. Why are you doing that to his hair, isn't it everywhere? Oh yeah, shit. Look at him, though. He looks fucking edgy. Speaking of. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:01 James, this episode... Oh, no. This episode can be labelled James in his edgy opinions. No, um, it's called boil or whatever. Yeah, that's the name of the episode. Don't worry. I'm finding it now.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I've got no edgy opinions. Please introduce one of these edgy opinions of James. I'm not, but not talking about my edgy opinions because I don't have any. Yes, we are. Right before we started recording We've just been debating non-stop One-sided debates, mind you Being a true
Starting point is 00:03:34 Okay, let's start Being the true SJW cuck that he is No, no, no, no, no, no I'm going to make the case that James is conservative And not only conservative, but a fascist Yep That's the grand irony
Starting point is 00:03:47 Okay, you've got to start now That's a grand irony So marijuana Okay, marijuana. How do you What was the word you used to describe the act of smoking marijuana? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:00 A bongue, the bongue. No, no, no, no. That was specifically for the bong. No, no, yesterday. Last night. No, last night was different. If you smoke weed, it doesn't matter if you smoke weed. If you do it with a blunt, a pipe, whatever, they, I just, a bong
Starting point is 00:04:17 just looks a bit gross to me. That's not what you said yesterday. It was late night, and you were, you were, you were annoying. me. Bad, bad excuses. No. I have Mariana, Mariana sauce. Maranaro. Yeah. No, the truth came out. Mm-hmm. No, you just... Repeat what James said for the jury. I said it was disgusting. I said weed was disgusting. Yeah, you said it was dirty. Yeah, it was dirty. No, not, not, not, not don't, not dirty is in like dirt on your carpet, that dirty, not dirty as in scummy. But if you want to smoke blunts or what pipes, you?
Starting point is 00:04:54 can do that. It's fine. You can do your bong, you can smoke weed, I don't care. You should be legal. You just think they're scummy? No, I don't think that's... I don't look at Alex and think he's lower than me. Mm-hmm. There's nothing... There's nothing...
Starting point is 00:05:08 You think I'm a fucking dirtball. No. Not at all. No. Why would I think that? I want it to be legal. It should be legal. People should be able to go into a shop and get it. I'm all for that. 100%. Government's stupid for not doing that. I just think...
Starting point is 00:05:23 But you're not dirty enough to... do it yourself no I just you don't want to sink to their level no it's not my thing it's not the thing I want to do with my time I don't want to do that I want to go clean my wheels on my car or play with the engine that's what I like I just don't want to get high it's not my thing that's fine it's fine I've got no problem with read that's just I I just think that phrasing could have offended some people what calling them dirty it was late night
Starting point is 00:05:56 and we were... You said it just earlier about a bong No I said that It's disgusting Because I think the bong is like So you think people that No
Starting point is 00:06:04 No no I think No There's nothing dirty James is just anal about things If it's I am anal about being clean And the bong No but to the point where it's like
Starting point is 00:06:14 That's ridiculous Like Look when you go to get a drink of water And you pick up the glass And you like analyse it We've got the 30 seconds In our town
Starting point is 00:06:22 We have like The chalkiest water and that's just a fact and it's lovely you also can't stand Limescale and that's one hell of a catch-22 no no no Lime scale if you go to your okay at my work we have you know to save time because you know big business big businessmen want all the money they can get so they have these machines which auto boils water so it's always boiling all the time and the nozzles are so thick with Limescale that on top of your tea there'll be a thick layer of
Starting point is 00:06:54 shit. Do they not use a filter? I don't know. But it makes the tea taste disgusting and that makes me feel sick. That's fair though. Yeah. I'm mainly about cleanliness
Starting point is 00:07:07 about like glasses and stuff but that's like the most extreme level where I'm just like, okay, that's gross. It says, I don't know. It's like I've had so many experiences of going into pizza and getting a glass that has like food chunks on it. It's like I've been,
Starting point is 00:07:20 I'm fucking traumatized by it to the fact that now if I see something on a glass I feel like it's... Maybe pizza hurts the issue and not the rest of the world. No, because it's even like sometimes you put your stuff in a dishwasher you might overload it a bit
Starting point is 00:07:32 and there'll still be trunk of food. Stuff on some bits, that's all right? Yeah, but I just... It's clean food because it's been through the dishwasher, exactly. But for me, you don't just flick it off, it has to go in the dishwasher again. It has to be properly cleaned.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I don't know by it. That's ridiculous though. I know it's ridiculous, but it's just like... Things have got to be clean. I kind of hate hygiene. Yeah. I think it's horse shit. I thought that...
Starting point is 00:07:55 I was watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine recently, and there's a certain joke that I thought resonated with me particularly well. And that was, um... They, they said they don't clean their, uh... They're, like, their towels because it's only used to... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 On, like, clean stuff. That was a good joke. Yeah. And the thing... I've used that philosophy for a long time. Not that I'd never clean my towels, but I mean, I'm like... I could put this in the washing machine
Starting point is 00:08:25 or... You mean like towels that you use after a shower that are just mopping up your clean body? Yeah. Yeah, I don't wash them that regularly. Like a top half, like for my hair and shit. You don't wash your towels.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I have two towels. One for the top half, one for the bottom half. Yeah. And no, I don't wash them regularly. When do they get washed? When do they? I don't have a strict rotor for it. It's just when...
Starting point is 00:08:50 Give me an average. stains start appearing when visible stains are there yeah every week every week the towel should be cleaned every week how often do you clean your bedding when again when poo slash blood stains start showing up blood how often do you do you wash yours towels towels towels are done on a weekly basis throughout bedding you mentioned the weekly basis for towels towels bedding's like every two weeks changed completely because so you got remember you just a feeling though you get in bed and you're like yeah i hate getting into a freshly made bed i like that's
Starting point is 00:09:26 that that is there's no there's no better feeling no you want to like you want to like sink into all your dead skin that's been there for like three months it's like a cocoon made from like biological matter you know really quite nice no i agree i agree towels need to be clean hand towels though if it's just you in the house whatever but you know if there are multiple people yeah or if you got guests coming or something yeah that's fair enough that's fair enough that's fair enough to boost ain't out yeah it's a bit faded but yeah that that is a rabbit so a rabbit hole cycle what's it called a rabbit hole yeah that's it a rabbit hole that's not a rabbit hole cycle
Starting point is 00:10:16 it's a rabbit hole yeah that's the one so I mean I was getting like two phrases mixed up in my head a cycle, a self-fulfilling cycle of pessimism. See, so you shouldn't make me out as if I hate weed and I think people are lesser because it's not the case. No, we only think you hate weed because you're exaggerating it because it sounds funny. I'm pro-wee. And because every time it comes up, you say we're dirty scumbags.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I never say that, ever. You are, though. Why do you think you're not interested in being intoxicated by anything? I don't like being out of my head. I explained this to you yesterday, briefly, that I just, I can only explain it as a sport mode in a car. If I'm on, if, if, if you're not on the sport mode, you're missing out. And I don't like that. And it's like, if I'm high.
Starting point is 00:11:08 So your brain right now is the sport mode? I'm always on the sport mode. I can't do it. So the least efficient, most wasteful mode? Yes. And it's just like, if I, if I go out of this sport mode, you know, I'm not getting. the full experience, so I have to be in it all the time. No, but like...
Starting point is 00:11:24 It's hard to explain. Are you not missing an experience by going through your entire life without, like, trying... I've tried things. No, I know, I know. But I mean... Weed is not one of them. Don't do drugs, kids. I've never really been drunk over there.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah, I know. But by that, I think... Alex, I think Alex agrees with me. It's just drinking a large quantity of... To gel it, is this like a bit... I've never been... Shit-faced. I've never been shit-faced. There's like, there's a nice level you can get to.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah. Yeah. Like, there is somewhat comparable to, like, marijuana. Dude, it's a nice level. Like, you're way more like, what the, kind of. The nicer level of, like, alcohol is like, probably two glasses of risky. It's like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:12:08 That's satisfying. That's it. Done. There's not, you're not 15 counts out. It's funny that you like whiskey, though, because that's one of the strongest alcohols available. It's because I don't drink alcohol like other people. People go to a pub by three pints and that's their whole evening.
Starting point is 00:12:24 A lot of people drink it to get drunk. Yeah. But I will sit there, play Breath of the Wild with jazz in the background, just drinking a bit risky. That's like, it's not the case. I'm not drinking it to get drunk. I'm drinking, it's like, it's an atmosphere thing, I guess. It's like, when you're with your friends and you're just drinking a bit risky, it's like, it makes it so much better instead of, if it was comparable
Starting point is 00:12:45 and you're just drinking shitloads of, like, cider, it just makes it, it's not the same? But you like cigars Okay, no You peer-pressured me Into like a cigar No, that's all shit We want
Starting point is 00:12:57 You peer pressured us Into buying you want Yeah No, I didn't Yeah, you made us Think we were Leaving you out So then it was like
Starting point is 00:13:04 Oh, I don't want to leave James out If you're actually interested With the cigars It kind of goes on With the whiskey thing It's like an atmospheric kind of It's the mood type thing You're in the mood
Starting point is 00:13:13 But it is a drug That is Yeah But when we had it We had risky as well There was no jazz because you drink coffee regularly also a drug
Starting point is 00:13:22 I know it's a stimulant I know not regularly I'm only now becoming an adult which means drinking coffee recently I've never touched coffee Rappuccino Never say that again That was that was bullshit
Starting point is 00:13:31 Say what a bit I drinking coffee because you're an adult I know not an adult I was taking the piss I know but like that's an actual thing I know people think You know those fucking signs like I drink coffee until
Starting point is 00:13:46 It's time for wine yeah yeah like to keep me going it's like fuck off I don't know I've just
Starting point is 00:13:54 it's like so ironic like we're as a culture we're so like anti all the drugs that aren't legal but the ones that are it's like fuck yeah
Starting point is 00:14:02 let's go it's hilarious let's go knee deep into this shit brilliant irony of all like alcohol caffeine just like that shit's everywhere
Starting point is 00:14:11 it's normal yeah no I think I mentioned it on a previous jarcast but I find it so hilarious that in like every supermarket one of the biggest aisles is alcohol the options you have available the choice so many different ones you have experts there who can point you towards your specific
Starting point is 00:14:28 flavour or fucking whatever you feel like that's completely normal you go to you go to it's totally normal it's encouraged even go to if you go to a michigan starred restaurant they're going to offer you fucking expensive wine like it has to happen and it's just like a weird double standard it's bizarre yeah I don't even understand it because it's the only ones I can understand are like cocaine and heroin and stuff where you don't conventionally like drink it or you have to like but with with weed you smoke it just like cigars and cigarettes which have been legal for ever since they're invented it's it's because of their cultural significance to like we can
Starting point is 00:15:12 only talk about the UK yeah beer and you know pubs and that kind of culture is so ingrained and of course smoking goes with that both been around for so long that any new thing is a bit like what the it's a shame though because the people that are have a pretty bad cocaine problem I'm pretty sure in the UK
Starting point is 00:15:33 but if you could get it safely then you might be able to stop some of the crime and the death because of people who are scared to come forward or go to hospital The tricky thing is those ones in particular cocaine and heroin Super addictive
Starting point is 00:15:54 So if it's think about all the people that die like say with heroin because you inject it They're needles were using needles like safely if if you could legally purchase it how many people would just turn to that one time and because it's so addictive They're stuck on it for the rest of their life and they don't know if they would be one time Then suddenly be addicted to it or Yeah you know if it's if it's a problem when it's illegal it would be a problem if it no it's it's it's the the issue is that it's criminal though so like you have these people who are helplessly addicted to these substances but they have no support because it's
Starting point is 00:16:34 illegal yeah the worst case is um when you're given really powerful like if you were in a car accident and you got like a leg injury and you needed really powerful um painkillers yeah it's the same. Yeah, they already give out euphoric, like, painkillers in the NHS anyway. Those really powerful drugs. People break into pharmacies to get them because it's...
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, for heroin. Because people get addicted, and then it's way cheaper to take heroin than to... In America, because of big farmer, it's way cheaper to get a hold of heroin than to keep buying painkillers. Because you're so addicted, like,
Starting point is 00:17:15 you're going to do one or the other. just lesser down ones you should just be legal pretty much but it's just odd for it to be so considered so criminal
Starting point is 00:17:29 and so bad but at the same time they are profiting and making money off of selling it anyway and no one's going to make the case that alcohol and cigarettes and coffee is
Starting point is 00:17:46 good for you. No one thinks that. But like we've just made an exception for them, I guess. You think. Like think about like if you compare the statistics of like the damage like alcohol and smoking and stuff. Well that's what I mean though
Starting point is 00:18:02 like um, what we as a society have done with alcohol and cigarettes like it doesn't make a good case for legalizing other drugs because we obviously love it and just abuse it. Would you not prefer the option and the freedom to choose as opposed to the government telling you which ones are legal and not for arbitrary, hypocritical, nonsensical reasons that are based in only historical, like, relevance and cultural relevance?
Starting point is 00:18:32 I mean, I think it's laws that are left over from, like, we need to build a society and we can't be successful if half of our people are taking heroin. part of it is though the allure people like the fact that like it's illegal and you're not allowed to take it and stuff like that if it's against the walls people are going to get it no matter what they're going to chase highs and that high is surely like getting it safely and securely and having support networks available and it not being like considered such a dirty disgusting kind of thing and people feel ashamed for no I I, that's the thing. I wouldn't call, like, heroin users, like, dirty or disgusting, that, I mean, there's a reason they've gone to it.
Starting point is 00:19:21 But I feel like that's a general sort of accepted opinion and attitude towards that. I just think it's, it shouldn't be, like, easy to get a hold of. Yeah, obviously, there should be, I don't know, if they implement it some kind of restriction or, I mean, then obviously age limits and then it's still the government, like, telling me what you can and can't do. I'm this is the jarcast we don't like research things beforehand or anything I don't have any statistics
Starting point is 00:19:49 none of us know anything but you might know this James is it right that in Portugal every drug is legal yes they Portugal decriminalised drugs basically so they're still illegal
Starting point is 00:20:05 but there's no so if you get caught with weed or you know LSD you don't get you don't get you don't go to prison you don't get criminal record it's to obviously make it if people get caught a young age they're not ruining their life by having it it's like
Starting point is 00:20:16 their support networks for it and it's just like see that seems like a smart thing to do to no but it's a it's a massive success it's been 100% positive yeah it was a long time ago now but i found some article that would put together all these statistics um of like the the drug i think it was death rates or something compared to Portugal and the the immediate change they've seen since changing that law yeah no doing it like that makes a lot of sense um yeah it's strange to have to have laws like with just possession because i mean really they're not the issue it's it's like where they get it from yeah i suppose the idea was that it was supposed to sort of disincentivise doing it or getting it or supporting it in any way but i mean if you're
Starting point is 00:21:05 addicted to opioids you're going to take opioids yeah but it's just hilarious we're at a point now where especially weed, going back to weed, law enforcement barely give a shit anymore. No, they don't. They don't get at all. Unless you're an actual dealer or you're caught with like an obscene amount. Like they have bigger fish to fry. And like if you decriminalised weed, criminalised.
Starting point is 00:21:29 There'd be more time and resources to put to actual really severe crimes which are understaffed and we don't have enough. And we already have like a police problem in the UK anyway. Yeah. You know, they're already stretched thin as it is. Yeah, it's an interesting thing. I'm sure there's bits and bobs I haven't thought about or don't know, but... It's just you can't underestimate any drug, really.
Starting point is 00:21:52 No. But it's like, if you're doing it in a controlled environment, now that weed is being legalized in so many different countries and whatnot, it's more data at the very least, so we can learn about it, see the positives and negatives, actually understand it as opposed to just making it this monster in the closet. that everyone's scared to actually talk about It's just, I mean like the war on drugs
Starting point is 00:22:16 Back in like the 80s Was so ludicrous Getting like 80 years in prison For selling weed Yeah And some of them Yeah and these people are still in prison In America
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, that's a little bit A little bit nuts Even in like states where It's legal now And they're still in prison That's yeah Wasn't there like A big issue, though, like, the American government, like, importing a lot of the drugs to, like, bust the chains and shit.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Like, Pablo Escobai, were? I'm pretty sure the, like, the, like, CIA was, like, involved in that in some way. I wouldn't know. I said that Tom Cruise movie that's both on a true story, but it's actually, like... That's right. Yeah. There is something, some actual evidence of the American government importing it to, like, sell, to make... To get, to find out the people...
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yeah, it was... They had, like, an inside man. It's been a while since. I think it's a known fact. Even Killer Mike references it in his songs, so... Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like, no, but we all know, as soon as Theresa May goes home,
Starting point is 00:23:20 she probably just gets fucking shit-faced on weed. Probably opens a bottle of wine. I just don't like the... What's the word? Especially at weed, though. I mean, there's a lot of money to be made there. Incredible on that money. A lot of money to be made.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, it's a popular drug. And our country doesn't really have any. All of our services are under... Mm-hmm. Anyway, yeah, I think that's topic is done. Basically, after this, we're going to get shit-faced on weed, basically. Yeah, I don't like angling conversations purely around UK stuff for long periods of time because it does alienate some of the people listening when we get so specific, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I want to know, I will read the comments of this video, because I want to see what, like, if people think, They agree or not? Like, all drugs are just... Well, it's like recently an example, the HALO YouTube or the gaming YouTuber, I guess he is, the act man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He made a video called like... High ideas.
Starting point is 00:24:28 High ideas for Halo Infinite. Yeah. Where the kind of gimmick of the video is that he was high on marijuana, and he was coming up with these, like, ideas that he thought would be cool in the video game. Mm-hmm. And he lives in Washington, where the... Where it is legal, so, but he got like a backlash from people because of the weed angle, whereas if you think about like, there's so many videos where it's like, drunk guy does this, drunk guy goes, you know, that kind of thing, getting shit-faced and watching Madagascar 3, yeah. It's just funny to think about it.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I find people criticising him for that a bit quengy, it's like, but you're okay with that, not this, fuck, nah, that's like... It's just hypocritical as all. That's the issue. That's the issue. Jim. Yeah. What matters is, we need to go have a few coronas, you know, boys. Weed are superior, though, to alcohol. Yeah, probably is. Alcohol just tastes bad. I imagine to smoking weed, it's just like...
Starting point is 00:25:38 There's plenty of taste the alcohol. That's good, but normally, like, Corona doesn't taste good. So anyway, I do taste for white. I mean, you're wrong, but, okay. Jim, shut up? Yeah. About which bit? Well...
Starting point is 00:25:52 I said that it tasted nice. No, about, um... Being drunk is just bad. No, I didn't say that. I said weed is superior. They're as pleasant... I'd say it depends on the person. Yeah, for me, obviously.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I can only talk about how it... affects me. Some people just makes them tired. Well, maybe you should have prefaced that. You know what? No.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I can't preface every single sentence. They're different. What's different? Every drug is going to be a different experience. We don't condone drugs on the car just.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Unless it's cigarettes or alcohol. Yeah, they're really cool. And do all of them. Do alcohol. whole do cigarettes do a cigar put in your bum bum yeah
Starting point is 00:26:44 um the other one no now we gotta do it it's so fucking annoying what do you mean it's annoying no right before we started recording I started the story earlier right
Starting point is 00:26:57 James was screaming at me because James has this thing about lollies they're called is that right lollies yeah basically um cartoon underage porn. Cartoon underage porn.
Starting point is 00:27:11 There was a bit of debate in the Jarkas group chat a few weeks ago. I can't remember why it came up whatever. It's just a continuing debate, I suppose. The cartoon drawings of like little girls and boys that like
Starting point is 00:27:27 that artist Shadman, he gets in trouble for it a lot. And yeah, because I mean... James likens it to actual paedophilia. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There is a big difference between real children being sexually, like, abused as, and being made.
Starting point is 00:27:50 But that was my point, though. There's a big difference, no, that's not the point I'm saying. There's a big difference between that and draw a, a girl with tiny, whatever. There's a big, that's my point, but it's also really quite perverted to draw that kind of thing. That's, no, that's my point. We never said that's not the case, though. There's this problem with us arguing. I have a point and the point goes off
Starting point is 00:28:13 and then suddenly my actual wisdom point doesn't exist. My only point... Because you were making out that it should be like a criminal offence. No, I think... It's really tricky. I think... Because didn't Shad draw Keemstar's daughter. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah. Like, that is really disgusting. And that shouldn't be like supported. No, my opinion is that just drawing. underage children in a sexual way is disgusting. That's what's it. I just find it disgusting because they're children. And yeah, there's a case to be made that it probably could normalize it to people.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And that isn't, that isn't... I'm fine with all of that, though. I don't think it should be a criminal or legal offence, though, to draw that. I think it's strange for people to defend it, though. It's strange, but like, these sexual fetishes that people have like this if we're gonna start singling out like creepy fetishes people have that's that's like a never-ending cycle of like no no i agree with that you can't you can't just pick and choose based on things you hate or whatever but i think
Starting point is 00:29:24 i've like never looked at the shit i i get nothing from it but like i my my problem is i think it's i would question songs more like moles i guess maybe if they're sitting there and you know, drawing that stuff and consuming it. I think that is a bit disgusting. But my issue is the fact that it's normalized. Hold on. Give us a set. We're back off to these messages to talk about... Kitty porn.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I think within the anime community very specifically, you know, people who love animate will defend it out of, like, principle. And I don't get... It's like a normal thing that, you know... Every anime children should be sexualized. No, it's not right. Every now and again, the debate will come up on Twitter. No, I see it all the time.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I see it all the time. Right. But, um, it's just so bizarre to me. But that, like, Japanese artwork and style, like, so many animas and manga's, like, sexualized schoolgirls and that kind of thing already. Yeah, I mean, that's... It's, like, no different to me. At the end of the day, they're not real people.
Starting point is 00:30:36 it's just a fucking drawing I don't know I said that's it weird drawing I don't get why people so passionately defend it yeah why I mean it's like gore porn you know the majority of people wouldn't defend gore porn but you know well there would be people that would come out
Starting point is 00:30:53 but people don't target gore porn and try and you know I mean it's the same problem though I mean like if if you're fetishizing like somebody's cut off head then kind of
Starting point is 00:31:09 fucked up like something's probably going on in your head you know it's a great area but that's all like every single fetish
Starting point is 00:31:18 it's all like that though no look okay but aren't the great area it's like if someone has a fetish for something like level or something they're normally going to try
Starting point is 00:31:26 and have the person in life do something like that because it's their fetish so if someone's fetish is go like the worrying
Starting point is 00:31:35 part is, is there potentially a bridge into real life into consuming? Surely that's like the same argument as violent video games or violent movies making you a shoot. Sexual stuff is differently. Yeah, because if someone has a fetish of leather, they're going to have that bridge into real life.
Starting point is 00:31:53 That is a already existing thing. If you have a fetish, you want that in real life because that's your fetish. That's the thing you like. Yeah, I mean, sexual urges are very powerful. Yeah. So what... So you're proposing to get rid of it and make it illegal? What's the actual solution?
Starting point is 00:32:09 Like, having a discussion, I mean, it's, it's, it's hard to say because, I mean, the people that defend it are right and the people that are against it are right. Maybe they're not always right for, or wrong for the right reasons.
Starting point is 00:32:30 But, I mean, both sides has positives and negatives. it's like you can't just ban it because I mean imagine if you had a daughter though and then Shad sexualized her I feel like that's
Starting point is 00:32:46 that's a small part of like a bigger thing it's like a cherry picked point like that's not every piece that is drawn is not like a targeting like actual children
Starting point is 00:33:00 I think the the arguments I've seen that crop up on Twitter is whenever he draws it of a real person. Yeah. And I mean, it depends. Like if, when it starts off with a cartoon, then it's like, okay, I guess. But when it, when it starts off, like, the concept is a real little girl being drawn.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It's like that he did, he did one of the, um, that it was like a comedy channel. She was like 14. He did one for her as well. Right. Yeah. So it's not, he's not the first. He's done it constantly. And like people are going to that potentially because they're already attracted to the the real person
Starting point is 00:33:42 And at a day they're beating the meat over that like a trauma of a real person who is underage But like if you're boiling it down to that level You can't ignore the fact that it's not real Like it's just not real Yeah It's like it's like parody almost Like a political cartoon with a mocking or you know
Starting point is 00:34:04 changing something into something that it isn't. It's a question with an impossible answer. There's no right answer. There's no right answer to it. I just find it a bit gross. Yeah, I think it's gross as well. Because at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:34:27 it doesn't matter what the drawing is, doesn't matter what it's your life. That drawing is of basically a human body that is pre-pubescent. of course you're fapping to that and you're coming to that that's gross of course it's like you know it's quite weird quite creepy but like because there is if it like if it came down to an option of they're allowed to jerk off to that and that's satiating their their wants and needs if it does they're satisfied with that is that not preferable that's a pedophile that's doing that
Starting point is 00:35:01 instead of but I'm worried that it's like surely sharing around pictures of like cartoon even though it is like drawn to be like underaged or whatever surely that is better than actual like real
Starting point is 00:35:17 kids who have been like yeah no there's no denying that yeah of course that's straight fact and I don't think anyone can argue with that you can't but it's like people act as if it's on the same level though and I don't think it's not it's not on the same level It's not as the same levels
Starting point is 00:35:32 young girls being abducted and raped by... Oh, boys? Yeah. There's pictures and nothing compared to that real horror and suffering that person goes through the rest of their life.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah. It's like that's one and that's 15 million. That's that, you know, that's the fucking difference. But it's like, there is, I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:35:50 there is probably some connection with real pedophiles and the consumption of lolliporn. Yeah, I'm sure. That's where it's, that's the great area. That's the issue. regardless of yeah it's just one of those issues like and those people who will take
Starting point is 00:36:07 the very hard stance of it should be banned and those who like just want it to be free and it's just like that's not the kind of thing you can ban anyway like that's just like because it's so like child porn is banned but people still you know they deal in it they find if you if you ban lolliporn what's going to do is just end up on four chance on this for other people to get you can't you can't stop that and at the end of day we shouldn't be wasting people's time trying to ban lollipon when we could actually be trying to be trying to catch actual pedophiles and that stuff. That's definitely the priority.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Yeah. Yeah, surely. It's just a typical, like, Twitter argument where it's like, yeah. At the end of the day, it doesn't fucking really matter, and none of the arguments that happen on Twitter really have any, no, nothing, any sway on anything. No one gives a shit. It's just, like, a lot of the people defend it will never say it's like they find it gross.
Starting point is 00:36:54 They, they do, they, they defend it. Well, the, I get the, I guess, saying devil's advocate and, like, saying, it's not the same like it's a fucking cartoon yeah the I had a point but I completely forgot it
Starting point is 00:37:13 interesting question it's just the other thing is that it's normalized within anime community and it's just like there's never any question of it but like that's just what that whole community's about there isn't it
Starting point is 00:37:22 it's a bad community isn't that what like chibis and chibis that's kind of like they can be sexual Oh, no, there's actually been drama. Arby's. Arby's, they, they pay this artist to make a chippy...
Starting point is 00:37:37 Or the American Fast Food Restaurant. They just made this really chibi, just kind of character. And they were just like, draw some art of it. And then the really hardcore anti-child porn stuff went in an on Arby saying that you're, you know, giving power to Lolly. And it's just like, there's a very clear distinction. That's, like, you can draw a child without it being sexual. A chibi is a very, it's a very stylistic.
Starting point is 00:38:00 way of drawing things like cute kind of... Yeah. So it's a Japanese thing. Yeah, it's like We got a chibi... Cooking mummer over there. That's like a chibi thing. We got chibi a Angara. Yeah, it's this... It's that kind of super style. Pop vinyl is really popular
Starting point is 00:38:16 and... Chibi. Hence pop vinyl I guess, but... Yeah, they're chibis. And people went in on Arbys for that and it's just like there's a very clear thing between Chibi style and actual, just like real life human style that's underage. that's why I can't I just don't look at Twitter anymore it's all just fucking like arguments over this like ridiculous shit that like
Starting point is 00:38:36 doesn't mean anything like you're not actually doing anything you're just complaining about it on Twitter I've gone off Twitter you know I've I used to love Twitter around like 2013 it was like yeah I found it I found my social media I like this no when it's all you're like the people you follow online and it's their place to sort of I think as soon as the type of people you follow on to become drama, that's when Twitter's
Starting point is 00:39:01 unenjoyable. But now they've actually changed Twitter to the point where I'm always recommended tweets. I get notifications on my phone from people I don't follow. Just like random tweets. It's like, you might like this. It's probably because you use it so little. Infrequently, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 They're trying to bring you on. It's just like my I've unfollowed every single bad Twitter and drama. My Twitter is just... Because? Yes. And I live a happier life because of it. I see some Japanese guy's cars
Starting point is 00:39:31 And it's just like cool Yeah That's it And probably is just because YouTube Twitter is so AIDS Yeah I don't think I follow any YouTuber Besides I follow you
Starting point is 00:39:40 Obviously I follow I don't tweet shit like that I just tweet It's either about movies Or it's just a fucking meme No you don't tweet Because you do Your shit is the Jamidu account
Starting point is 00:39:49 That's what you do Yeah that's where you spew your bio This morning I did consider Actually making a Twitter Like a separate one For what? From either Like yours
Starting point is 00:39:59 yeah right so you can follow me Jim and then I can see the things I actually want to see then you can see all the cringy pictures I like and then you can
Starting point is 00:40:08 I do already though I see when I go on jar media Twitter I see you see all the the archive fucking embarrassing shit you like don't I'm an edge boy
Starting point is 00:40:18 stop well that was a cheerful subject I did have a question actually before we finally move on from this yes what's your question it's really like fucked up but um great there's this Madeleine McCann documentary on Netflix about the kid who was yeah kid who was kidnapped but apparently in that
Starting point is 00:40:40 documentary there's kind of a B plot about these like parents the parents of her no just like other parents who um their their kids have been kidnapped or something and I haven't seen it but from my understanding there's some kind of choice that the parents have to make where they're called up and they're asked are you willing to come and identify what might be
Starting point is 00:41:09 your child in this like child porn that we found well that makes you feel sick just listening to it holy fuck but I was posed the question would you be willing as a parent to go and actually do that because for me my immediate
Starting point is 00:41:25 answer was no it makes you have said I couldn't do that, to be honest. I could, no. Imagine seeing your like daughter just, oh, fuck. No, I'm not doing this. That's what I mean. No, that's like, Jesus. That's, that's like the most fucked up thing. Like, as if, like, having you a child kidnapped isn't bad enough. And then you, oh, no. That's not even like closure. It's just opening a new door. Yeah. A new door of fucking pain and misery. Yeah, it opens severe trauma. But then at the same time, you've already got that open door of your lost.
Starting point is 00:41:59 child that you have no idea what happened is it is it the better thing to not know or to know what happened ignorance is bliss it's like no but I mean at that point you know I I would have to really because no if if dude then then then there's a attempt at closure not closure but surely that that would help the police get a step closer to potentially finding these people yeah they might something they might find the people but you're your child would probably be dead you know somewhere
Starting point is 00:42:32 I mean not necessarily not necessarily I mean if there's any chance I could get my kid back I'd have to do it it is no that's just like a fucked that's a really horrible moral question
Starting point is 00:42:44 that some people probably have to like deal with like that's I can't believe there are people in this world that that would put a a kid and a parent through that it's so sickening I've been through horrible things emotionally
Starting point is 00:42:59 And, you know, I've cried over them And it's just like, I can't imagine having to see that And like, that would break me so much And I'd just cry for like years Because it's just so whole I watched the show Broadchurch recently Which is kind of the
Starting point is 00:43:15 It's the one with David Tennant and Olivia Coleman Oscar winner Olivia Coleman And the show is about a murder of a child So you can imagine how fucking heavy it is Like from episode one First season is like Fucking amazing, though. How, how were you watching it?
Starting point is 00:43:32 I bought it on iTunes. Hmm. You should watch at least season one. It's fucking brilliant. Really interesting. It deals with, actually deals with like basically every discussion we've had on today's cast. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:46 It's really interesting. Anyway, fucking hell. And before... No, actually, John, I can add something to this. Do you know about the really severe child kidnapping that's in China? No. I don't even know anything about China 50, like 50 plus thousand kids
Starting point is 00:44:02 get like stolen, kidnapped a year What in the whole country? Yeah, I found this The thing about like following loads of Japanese Twitter is sometimes I just See cars and other times I just see the weirdest shit And it was this video that was quite literally They were trying to raise awareness for the severe
Starting point is 00:44:18 kidnappings and it's just like people will literally walk by open a van door Steal a kid, that's it And it's normalised there And all these kids are going somewhere it's like that's freaky and they were literally saying don't take your kid to China because they'll get kidnapped
Starting point is 00:44:32 but that's how bad the issue is in China probably more of a target as well there yeah like one of our little white boy kids the people doing it weren't even like skilled if a kid was walking out of sick they'd just grab the hand and just tried to run and the parent would go chasing it's really normalised and it's fucking disgusting
Starting point is 00:44:47 so don't go to China please in a place where the media is controlled yeah wait yeah none of the kids get seen again There's no, the police only investigate into it It was on what I've heard It's fucked God damn
Starting point is 00:45:04 I mean yeah Last episode we talked about like all this political shit Right And you guys were You weren't sure if you wanted to leave it in No we did I always wanted to leave it in I just thought we shouldn't maybe go so political
Starting point is 00:45:18 There was a discussion anyway It was it opened up a dialogue And it was great There was people talking about Which is good It's good to see the job community, be able to take heart more political subjects and still, you know... I'd say the
Starting point is 00:45:29 response is actually pretty decent. Yeah, especially the ones on Reddit. Everyone was respectful. Yeah. But I read, anyway. Yeah. Because I do. Every day, I always on the first Monday, I always go through the comments on the end of that day. And then... I will say though, um, I think we will
Starting point is 00:45:47 try and not talk about subjects, like that one specifically. Because it's like... I don't even think... the discussion is that interesting to be had from our perspective anyway like what informed opinion are we really going to add to it besides i mean it's good that we did talk about it because it's it's good for us to talk about that stuff sometimes and sometimes it depends on what actually is i think because because of where that one took place in new zealand it felt a bit more like
Starting point is 00:46:17 there's more of a link yeah where it's like with all the like we don't really talk about the like american shootings that go down we try and avoid that kind of topic but I think as a podcast you know we've talked about very serious things on this podcast I think sometimes we need to talk about politics and we should we've talked about mental health we've talked about addictions you know those things we have a personal like connection with though yeah it's the only difference it's like we're not going to next week talk about the state of Brexit it's like no that's not our place I'm not going to talk about it but if you know something happens to some of our family or something like it's like it's the real connections
Starting point is 00:46:51 which we talk about yeah by the way the name of this episode is Jolo Truglio. Let's bring the mood down a bit. What, up a bit? Yeah, mood up. Bring the mood up. The mood couldn't get much lower. Jim mentioned Brooklyn 9-9 earlier. The comedy, the Andy Sambor comedy. And there's a character
Starting point is 00:47:11 in it called Boyle, played by this actor who I found out has the name, Jolo Truglio. His name is Jolo Truglio. Like, that's his actual name. fucking that's a cool name joe low truglio i mean he's he looks like his name he looks like a joe low truglio yeah specifically the truglio part he actually does look he looks he suits his fucking name so well a bit a bit i would no 100% if you've seen him in motion anyone who's
Starting point is 00:47:47 seen the show will know what talking about show yeah actually but joe low truglio actually but Joe Lodruglio actually sounds like a jar cast title already. Yeah, it sounds made up. It sounds made up. It's so perfect that that's the name of this episode. So I thought I should explain that at the very least. Right, let's do it, folks. Let's go into the JAR media Reddit and answer some questions.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Imagine being dominated by that. BDSM, Mr. Krebs. So if you want to leave your own questions for us to ask on the JARcast, head over to the JARMedia Reddit and there's a suggestion thread. Let's start with, um, fuck sake. A question from, or a statement. From Banana Ray. That's familiar, that name. Hi, Alex. This is your real life husband. I know you've been cheating on me with that slut, whore, cunt, bitch grapefruit. I'm packing my bags. I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving you. I cannot believe you'll stab me in the back on this day after our 12 years of marriage.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Wow, just wow. It's going to be like this. You've taken me for granted for too long. Now, now it is the day you truly learn to fear me, the banana. How do they actually know you're gay, though? I mean, they probably put it together the banana thing. How's the banana go? I suppose I didn't say about the time I put it in my bum bum.
Starting point is 00:49:21 There's nothing wrong with sticking fingers in your bum Because as a gay man There's nothing wrong with being gay There's nothing one being gay As a gay man That turns me on And there's nothing more with having something up your bum Turn your own
Starting point is 00:49:34 That's what I'm saying So as soon it's vibrator Boo turn on Ah I also like the feedback from people On the jar Reddit Who um They're like searching for like the weirdest
Starting point is 00:49:46 Technique to jerk off with now Really? Is that what we've created? They're going in Is this hands on research? or is this um no actual hands on research okay um condom for the water isn't one of them tried that i'm pretty sure water isn't a lubricant right i was like 14 i remember a time you thought it was hilarious to go to because at our school if you went to like the the nurse lady oh yeah you could ask for condoms yeah and she would just give you three condoms which is
Starting point is 00:50:21 just the funniest. Yeah, so you went with your crew to get some free condoms. Adam Gai. Stash D.K. says, if all the jar members morphed into a single being, what would it look like? What would zoologists call it, and what special
Starting point is 00:50:39 powers would it possess? You know, it would be called Jolo Truglia. Yeah, it would be called Jolotruglia, there you go. You know, it looked like him from the second Scooby-Doo movie. When he gets really buff, that would be us. This is monster. No, we be female shaggy. Oh yeah. Yeah, we would.
Starting point is 00:50:54 What would zoologist call it? Yeah, Jolo Chuglio. What special powers would it possess? I hope you had to drive cars really fast. It would take one thing from all of us. Ruben's height. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:08 James' driving ability. Jim's lover pasta. What do you get from me? Weed. It's not like... It's not a power. part of me. Okay, um,
Starting point is 00:51:23 it would just be your humor. That's what it would take. Your weirdness, just you in general, I think. Your dressing gown. Oh yeah, someone actually made this joke in a reply to this very comment. Alex underscore W123 said,
Starting point is 00:51:38 it would have James' ability to drift, James's pro-gaming skills, and Alex's ability to use any fruit as a masturbation tool. That is the ultimate, being cook we can cook bang in pasta the fruit that's left over Alex can we can master
Starting point is 00:51:57 we can we can because we'll be one being and then we can drift to the shops to get more food moon duck one has a brilliant question for James we we what car is each of the Madagascar cast okay show me pictures of the Madagascar cast I'll go through Alex the lion no I need two pictures
Starting point is 00:52:18 okay fine I'll get a glory Madagascar movie cast Keepsuring me Right, let's start with Alex the lion Alex the lion I kind
Starting point is 00:52:37 Um Alex, it's hard to think of what Alex would be He's, you know, he's a... He's like the generic every man What's the generic every man car? A golf. A Volkswagen golf. Okay, so Alex is a golf. Gloria.
Starting point is 00:52:51 The big fat hippo. Pontiac Aztec. What is a Pontiac Aztec? Can you search? Can you Google search Pontiac Aztec so I can see it? Uh, Melman the Giraff. Mastrow X5. And, uh, Marty, the Zebra.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Ah. Ah. Ah. M. What? It's the breaking bad car That's actually a really good pick from James This is a great question
Starting point is 00:53:25 What was the Melman again? Mazda Which one? The one we like The one we literally talk about Why would that be a Melman? He's a giraffe And it's a convertible two-seater
Starting point is 00:53:41 It would be perfect for him Oh right This is the cars they could drive This is the cars they'd be be an MX5. Yeah, it's the car they are, isn't it? Yeah, and he'd be Amazon X-5.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Surely it should be something really tall. What was Marty anyway? Chris Rock. Marty? Zebra. Marty, the zebra. He's giving me a description of his character.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Funny. Uh, uh, his friends with Alex. Uh, he's Urban. He's an urban legend. uh how could you actually describe that character he'd be a voxswain over um he's really good at spitting water
Starting point is 00:54:27 he is though he's a voxone over that's his skill um he he had an iPad iPod iPod we know he had an iPod he cares about his friends okay giraffe the giraffe Melman you already said Melman no I'm changing it I'm changing it makes more sense for him to be something else he'd be a cries of Petey quickly Chrysler P.T. Cruiser. He'd be the one, the tracky one. Oh shit. Uh, what about King Julian?
Starting point is 00:54:59 The Lima. I like to move it, move it. Um... Excuse me, you've got to explain his character just so I can... Racist, um, caricature, uh, over the top. Very right wing. Very right wing. No, wait, no. He's...
Starting point is 00:55:19 No, he's a dictator. Yeah, he's a dictator. Yeah, what would a dictator drive? No, what would a dictator be? Yeah, what car would it... Yeah, whatever, man. What car would he be? I don't know the name of it, but it's the car.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Literally, every serious dictator owned this one car. It's the dictator car. It's a Mercedes. And it has fucking curtains, and it's like... I can't explain... I'd say the Rolls-Royce, the Rajneesh had. Unless you got good. We'll do one more.
Starting point is 00:55:51 The Penguins? Skipper. Okay, we'll do two more. See, they're the right-wing ones. No, King Julian would be that. Say the name of it? The Mercedes... People can Google it.
Starting point is 00:56:03 It's a Mercedes 600. A Mercedes 600. Okay. Well, let's just say, um... A lot of dictators. There's more people been killed by those cars than... AR-15s. Jim.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Um, you said what, the penguins? Yeah, the penguins. They'd be the... They'd be mopeds. Those fucking moped gang... N-nin-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-k. Okay. And finally, Mort.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Who's Mott? I'll show you a picture of him. The little dibby. Andy Richter, that little creature. He'd be a Suzuki cappuccino. A Suzuki cappuccine. Wait, who would, um, Kung Fu Panda be, Po? Sunfoo Panda.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Fia panda. Yeah, there you go. Fiat Panda. Yeah, he'd be one of them. That was a good question. So, it's such a cute, dibby car. We used to have one. What, Fiat Panda?
Starting point is 00:56:57 When we were kids, our mum had one. Oh, bloominow. That was a great question. Tiny car for a tiny island. Is it the regional pit finder then? It wasn't the new one, it was the regional little pit. It was back in the early 2000s. Oh, this is a good one to talk about.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Miller Van Navan says, Have you heard all the controversies surrounding Shane Dawson and him fucking his cat? Yes. Oh, yes. This is funny because I'd just started watching a few Shane Dorson videos purely for the intrigue of his content. With his terrible, awful videos. They are hilarious.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Shane Dorson is possibly the best YouTuber at the moment. I'd also like to say congratulations to him. She got engaged recently. He did actually. He had to make a quick move after the cat stuff. to like draw attention away right I'm just waiting for my
Starting point is 00:57:54 favourite YouTuber James Charles Well do we want to explain what this fucking cat thing is then Yeah so he It was like a podcast or something from years ago Years and years and years ago Where he said he Put his cat on its back Put his dick on the cat's like stomach
Starting point is 00:58:14 And then Rubbed his dick on the cat until he came all over his cat and it was a joke yeah I don't know the context of the joke like what came before and after but um that's all like because someone tweeted that
Starting point is 00:58:32 yeah the audio and um so then Shane Dawson immediately tweeted I did not fuck my cat yeah I didn't fuck my cat I didn't come on my cat I never put my dick near my cat ETC
Starting point is 00:58:46 the most hilarious tweet ever written and so it's been memed. The fact he even had to say that. Yeah. I wasn't going to make another apology video after last year. He actually thought it was necessary to make a video about why he didn't
Starting point is 00:59:01 fuck his cat. It's because he used to be an edge lord and now his audience is quite different, I guess. Is it, though? I don't know. I don't know his audiences. Well, why I know is that he's a great YouTuber that makes solid content? Probably the funniest YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:59:18 huh fucking rumple stiltskin from Shrek 4 don't insult his appearance no I hate him I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:59:28 I'll never forgive him for what he did to me what making a movie that you voluntarily watched no not that no it's his he stole a joke from me he didn't
Starting point is 00:59:39 hang up I'll be back up to these messages he didn't write that show no Shane Dawson didn't steal a joke from me He just didn't... He put a video on his channel from someone who did steal a joke from me
Starting point is 00:59:53 and he refused to acknowledge it and it angered me. Oh, back when you were edgy you're like my fucking... You were so angry of that. What do you mean? What you mean back when I was edgy? That is bullshit.
Starting point is 01:00:04 That wasn't like... It wasn't like a stretch comparison. No. It was like... He did the exact same thing. He just stole my fucking joke. What Shane Dawson... And obviously he did there was he...
Starting point is 01:00:14 Like, he just didn't do any research. He probably didn't even watch the video that he put on his channel. No, of course not. It's just like sloppy, unprofessional, shitty, like, bad work. No, honestly, it fucking pissed me off. Yeah, well, it's the one fucking rule on you. There are two rules on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:00:35 You don't fucking copy each other directly, like verbatim, and you don't leak DMs. Or secretly record people. You leak by DMs all the time. I don't. That's different, that's jar. That's fucking different. If you were talking about, no, if you were shit talking, like, if you, if you were a 10 million sub-channel and you're DMing me saying about how you hate so-and-so,
Starting point is 01:01:02 and then I leak the DMs, that's a cunty thing to do. That's like a no-no. It's one of the rules. Well, Alex is a 2 million one, so you know what. I had someone secretly record, like, a Discord call I was in. what once we we being drastically racist like I didn't say anything like bad but like why were they recording you it was like like literally three or four hours are into the call they're like yeah by the way um we actually recorded this entire thing
Starting point is 01:01:35 it was just like well I'm not gonna say who it was I'll tell you guys after yeah that's really really bad I didn't I actually didn't know how to react It was like, fuck. Guys, you just can't DM anyone or they'll leak it all. It was like, this is why you have to be so fucking careful. Luckily, I didn't say anything like bad. Yeah, like even a joke. We were literally just talking about a movie.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Like, that was it. But it was like, I think they expected the conversation to go a different way. Were they doing it to record you? Yeah. This has blown my mind. I thought, I feel like I've told you before. Is there any controversy in your DMs that you're scared of? Oh, they're sure.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Show if there's so much in mine. Pictures of Elon Musk. Oh shit. So I was going to leak my DMs. Elon Musk DMs. No, there's bits of Billy's as well. Okay, no, Billy pictures can't be released that haven't been released already.
Starting point is 01:02:36 No, my DMs strategy is I just send pictures of Alex. No, your phone automatically saves pictures that are sent you on WhatsApp. That's what I used to send. So anything you send me might get sent to someone else. Yeah, loads of unflattering, like, triple chin pictures of me and Ruben and Alex and you
Starting point is 01:02:52 pictures we send in actually yeah James is the leaker of jar yeah yeah I do yeah no but that's that's my thing now is and if pictures work together they get posts on my Twitter but there's none of you because there's no pictures of you so it's me Alex no that
Starting point is 01:03:06 Instagram one was very funny there are two types of gamers in this world it's only because we both did that so it's doing it works and we both had bubbleats on so it was like a pop hiss says Any plans to do more is as good as they say videos. It's been a while since the last one.
Starting point is 01:03:24 What? I'm too busy thinking about the weed hat. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's a great series. What? As good as they say? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:37 No, I have an idea for ones I want to do. Which should be pretty funny, but... Just got to do it. Yeah, and we will. Yeah? We've got the first one lined up. I hate everything? I hate everything as good as they say.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I can't be on that episode then. What? Do you don't think there's a bit of a conflict of interest? No? You're not... It was Argy the whole time. Argy. Augie.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Augie, no biboo. Bebo, no cocky. Where is he? I'm kind of suffering because I need to release feces from my wrecked em. Don't worry, we'll just do a couple more, then. We'll just do a couple more, then. Beck them. I need to release feces.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Is that the name for Xelation's quote? Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, I have to, I have to read this one. They put too much effort into it. I think it's one of words. The hole in my garden has this one. I've noticed that whenever you guys say my name, you say it with a hint of sadness,
Starting point is 01:04:41 and I apologize if I, if I've been any kind of pain to you at all. I will attempt to ask better questions in the future, but for now, I have a question for the, for the man who wasn't there, like the movie. So for Jim. What Madagascar character are the cast of Red Dead Red Dead Redemption Tea? Oh, fuck, hello. Okay. In case you uggo fools fail to answer this totally rad and not worth this question, I'll submit a more up-to-date list of what I believe to be the answer, and they actually have a list.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Jesus Christ. They have a list of characters they believe. come in to go through it and just see if we agree with it or not yeah Alex the Lion Arthur Morgan um Marty John Marsden
Starting point is 01:05:25 you see I don't know if that would be the other way around though why because the Red Dead one like the first one the main character John Marston is that not more of a
Starting point is 01:05:40 Alex that's actually quite a good point yeah No, I think you might be right John Marston should be Alex Yeah Gloria, Sadie Adler Melman, Leopold Strauss
Starting point is 01:05:56 I'd say those are both good They are, they are good decisions Skipper is Dutch vandalin Yeah, hell yeah Rico, Michael Bell Yeah Kowalski, Hasea Matthews Yep
Starting point is 01:06:11 Private Jack Marston Hmm I'd say I'd say Jack Marston is Mort Yeah This is such like The most ridiculous
Starting point is 01:06:29 Like discussion right now Wait That means we need to fill in Private Um A character that Is kind of a fuck up Kind of a dumb ass
Starting point is 01:06:41 Isn't there a character in the gang Who like dies off screen that you'd like never know they reference too yeah um we'll come back after the list just nearly over um Motto motto is Charles Smith
Starting point is 01:06:56 bit racist but yeah Alex's mom Abigail Roberts what wait okay with his original one how does that make any sense he said yes I'm aware of connotations so in his in this guy's versions it would be his mother no in this
Starting point is 01:07:20 version Arthur Morgan sorry his like his ex GF right no if he he could have been clever and said that Arthur Morgan was Alex Alex the lion's dad should be Arthur Morgan so then who would be John Alex Alex no John is Alex the Lion Arthur is Alex the Lion's dad and then Marty is God this is so confusing
Starting point is 01:07:54 I'd say Marty should be I don't know This is too confusing Stefano the sea lion No wait do you not think This is fucked up Do you not think Arthur Morgan is kind of a father figure To
Starting point is 01:08:08 to John I'd say he's more of like a brother They're brotherly as well But I mean He's like, to me he's like an older brother John's Because of the way he is around John Marston's kid
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah That fucking game rules Um I wish it was on PC Stefano the C-line is uncle I have no issues with that Vitalee the Tiger Bill Williamson
Starting point is 01:08:47 Chantelle de Bois Agent Milton That's perfect Who's Chantelle de She's the villain in the Madagascar 3 Is who? Agent Milton An unnamed French
Starting point is 01:09:04 henchman is Edgar Ross No I'd do it the other way around Yeah, Eger Ross is more important to the overall plot of both games. McCunger is Colmo Driscoll. Is McCunger Alec Baldwin from Madagascar 2? Yeah, I guess. Wait, then that means Dutch should be Alex's dad. Oh my God, this is actually...
Starting point is 01:09:28 No, stop. This is just ridiculous. This is really difficult. And Josea is Alex's mum. Okay. This is getting really confusing. It's nearly done. Smart Monkey is Josiah Trelawney.
Starting point is 01:09:45 That work? I guess. Gia is Mary Linton. I don't even know Gia is from Madagascar. Yeah. Whatever. And Zuba, Alex's dad, is Reverend Swanson. Is he?
Starting point is 01:10:02 No. It's too detached. Yeah. Like a father is very... tied to the character. I'd say we need someone for King Julian.
Starting point is 01:10:13 He didn't have anyone for King Julian, did he? No. There are a few more but I'm not going to read them because then they're just like unnamed dog in Madagascar 3
Starting point is 01:10:22 and stuff like that. King Julian can be Sean. Loud mouth. Got attitude. We'll have King Julian be that O'Driscoll, one of the gang leaders? No, they're, they're too friendly with, um, uh, King Julian in the movies.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Okay, Sean then. Okay. What, who's Lenny? Oh my God. I can't actually keep track anymore. My brain is died. Lenny can be private. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:02 James, we have one for you now. You can sit back up. It's over. I was like 10 minutes of that. That's a really hard question. I might have to go home and like look at the cast and the Madagascar cast and like link it all up. You know that, you know that meme? That's Jim.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Whiteboard. Managascar guy does red like that guy. It's the most, I love that question so much. No, I've got, I've got an idea. What? Nothing. King Wavey asks, dear James. Your technique, your technique for sniffing out the no hand washers is so incredibly moist, I decided to try it myself.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I currently go to an American university and wanted to see if us too don't wash our penis grabbers. I decided to go into the bathroom of the English building on the second floor and waited inside a stall. This turned out to be an awful idea because it was a midnight on a Monday. So air traffic was light. However, my efforts weren't in vain as some college chode walked in. he was wearing all white vans and dark blue skinny jeans a true pleb walking among us he just described Alex
Starting point is 01:12:14 I don't wear vans you should do I don't you have okay I got mixed up between the whatever ones you like Converse Converse and fans there's the same thing He walked into the adjacent store stood there for a second without closing the door
Starting point is 01:12:31 and walked back out towards the sinks After a few seconds of nothing A move had to be made This is when I decided to confront this Marauder face to face When I did open the door to my stall There he was masturbating to known porn star Riley Reid With no sound for some reason
Starting point is 01:12:49 I was shocked and embarrassed at the same time And quickly left the facility Why he was there at 12, who knows He must live on campus if he was there that late Then again I don't live on campus and I was there If the Lele Pons porn lover washed his hands Who knows but what I do know is that he has good taste in porn stars
Starting point is 01:13:08 kind of disregard King Wavy No fucking way No that's that's a joke Yeah no one would no one Who would go into a public fucking No one would just Toilin The toilet
Starting point is 01:13:23 The trousers down there wiggle across to the I I hope it's true Yeah Yeah I hope it's true But I mean the odds are against him It's a good tactic though
Starting point is 01:13:39 Always use it Speaking of Riley Reid though We're gonna get her on the jar cast Yep she's gonna suck our toes She's gonna smoke blunts through our Our toes Some people aren't gonna get that Do you think Riley Reid is dirty
Starting point is 01:13:53 She's probably very clean I mean she's definitely rich So I'm sure she has good I'm saying with her You know a job I'm wondering if James No, you mean her... Do you mean her current job or her last job?
Starting point is 01:14:09 What is her current job? Well, we discussed this in McDonald's. You think I can remember that? Do you not? Do you not? What's her job? She's an actual escort now. That's what you were saying.
Starting point is 01:14:20 That's what we were theorizing. No, I didn't say... I don't fucking know. Yeah, I have no idea. Well, I mean, you... No, we talked about it because there was a video of her sucking Little Pump's toe while smoking a blunt for his toes. I find it unlikely that she would go around.
Starting point is 01:14:35 like fucking all these celebrities and not get some sort of money for it? Yeah. Maybe it's not like a business but you know Just money under the day. But something on the side perhaps. I mean I'm not one to accuse anyone
Starting point is 01:14:50 Of anything, I'm just saying like Yeah, she's making it if she wants. I mean, yeah. I mean It's glad to see her rap career is taking off quite well. Yeah. After her first masterpiece. Yeah, if you want to know what we're talking about. Big popping pussy.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Just then the N-word on repeat If you want to Go on YouTube and search Riley Reid rap It's fucking It's legendary It's legendary It's like when you get an apex pack
Starting point is 01:15:19 And you see it gold It's like pops out Wiley Reid map Boom Black Santa says Should people still listen To Michael Jackson's music I mean
Starting point is 01:15:30 Do what you want to do That's a question There's no is everyone has been in denial for the past yeah like 20 years he's been a creepy guy not only has he been a creepy guy but he was he went to court
Starting point is 01:15:43 for being accused of the very thing this documentary was about and I mean it's highly likely that he just paid off the the people that were accusing him yeah so but the question was music
Starting point is 01:15:58 well to be fair the way I consider this is I grew up playing Grandfath Dotto Vice City and his songs are in that game. Just like, my nostalgia is that. Billy Jeans is a good song, and I like that song. There's no argument that they're not, they're not banging songs.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I'd never say they're bad songs, but I don't have any... I'm not like a Michael Jackson mega fan anyway. I'm not even fan, really. I find it so sad that, like, in the 80s, he was the representation for, like, a black dude that has made it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:33 In a time where... Like a megastart. That didn't happen. And he was that. That's probably because of his childhood, though. It's so sad. Yeah, pretty disturbed. Oh, God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Vaping Fury says, Hey Joe. I've recently been listening to the old yogs and realized you've been asked, do you guys believe or had paranormal experiences over three times? What is a question that keeps being asked and you felt you've already answered it?
Starting point is 01:17:01 This one. Or the ghost one? No. Being asked how many times we've been asked a question. I don't remember. I forget after the end. There are certain things that are on like a cycle where it's like after a few weeks and it's like right back to that. I can't think of any off the top of my head. Really specific like HALA Wars anecdotes.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I feel like have been said like 10 times over the course of the 150 episodes. I don't remember three years ago. This has been too many episodes. I don't remember any of them. Liam the Kaz has a philosophical question do you guys think some people are... It's fine. Is it fine?
Starting point is 01:17:42 Yeah, it flashes when the card's kind of going. Mama. Do you guys think some people are born evil or that people become bad due to their circumstances? Environment and other influences. It's always environment. It's always environment. It says a bit of both.
Starting point is 01:17:58 A nice little mix of both. The movie and or book when he's talk about Kevin is all about this. all about this very conundrum Yeah, who knows I mean So many variables come to craft
Starting point is 01:18:13 A human Yeah What they are It's hard to imagine like a baby Actually being born evil Though Yeah, maybe, I don't know Maybe if there's like a chemical imbalance
Starting point is 01:18:25 That makes their brain act in a certain way I mean A psychopaths made Can psychopaths come from I thought they Love? Is that not a definitive yes, though? They can be made, right?
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah, that's the thing. Like a lot of serial killers do it based on traumatic things they experienced as little kids and it just fucks them up so severely Yeah
Starting point is 01:18:50 That they go on to, you know Do their crazy things What wacky people they are We as a society Love Psychos God We really do live in one, don't We live in a simulation?
Starting point is 01:19:07 Yeah, no, I agree. Dan far away says, have you boys considered making a movie together? I assume it would turn out slightly better than the Smosh or Channel Awesome movies. Why? Why would it turn out better? Yeah, it probably would be quite similar. Yeah. Actually, the Channel Awesome movies are so incredibly bad. They're so, like, embarrassingly amateur.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I safely say, I safely say we could make a movie better than any of the Channel Awesome movies. Okay, yeah. I think that's not, that's not like, that's not too much. No, not at all. Because the bar is so, so incredibly fucking low, you know, sub-nautically low. You just have to have it, basic, to make the story somewhat whittistic, like all of those stories. Besides the Smosh Run.
Starting point is 01:20:01 like a camera that isn't like shit as well yeah an iPod camera have lighting stuff like that just make a short film by street racing that's easy I feel like we wouldn't as a group have a very cohesive
Starting point is 01:20:17 idea no I tell you all to fuck off about two minutes into it and then go to one person that's the issue of like the Smosh movie it's like they just made their YouTube channel into a movie yeah that yeah no I agree
Starting point is 01:20:32 yeah no it couldn't be like you need a story yeah you need a story yeah you need like characters who go through something and change who are like different at the end no that's no movies aren't like that not every movie has to be crap
Starting point is 01:20:45 not of course not everyone does but if you're starting out making some kind of movie that's just a good safe place to start use some kind of formula I'd want to make a western okay so that would be that would be shit that would be fucking
Starting point is 01:20:59 embarrassingly shit if we made a West know it would be awesome like we could have like a weed cookie joke we could have um like a big block of ice fall on someone if we could get the budget together we could animate a sheep we could animate a sheep like pissing yeah we could
Starting point is 01:21:14 have like each of us get our face pissed on by a sheep god now that would be funny just make a street racing movie it's really easy that would be shit how would it be shit yeah it would be shit we tried watching um take your drift
Starting point is 01:21:30 and uh we now watch Fast and Furious while you were gone yeah me and James watched Fast and Furious five six six oh everyone else no one no it was six it was six it was six yeah we've seen that one oh I thought you meant the first one because you've been trying to convince no no no I just want him to see Vin Diesel actually acting no he doesn't he just talked more oh sorry but that is that that that movie has made me who I am, so
Starting point is 01:22:02 I've got to pay my tributes to that movie. Let's find one more to do to end on. Okay, ble. Mm-hmm. I need to do reconciliation. Stop yawning. It's like fucking, it's three o'clock. Yeah, I'm catching James's yawns.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Oh, I'm catching. No, my fault. Oh, mum. I've had a hard day. Mm-hmm Okay Let's end on this little story Because I like these
Starting point is 01:22:40 How JAR Media is affecting people's lives Right So this one's from Picasso Not spelt like the artist But clearly Referencing his name To be honest It pisses me off so much that they have Picasso's signature on those fucking awful cars.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Oh no, it's insulting. It's actually insulting. Like, I can't believe that I was good. He was a scumbag though, so whatever. Yeah, of course he was. They all were. Who's they? James, if you're gonna talk, talking to the fucking mic. I've got a citron, sorry. Shh. Hey jar, lads. Writing this after experiencing my first brer moment involving your cast at college. Bruh. I save up cast for weeks so that I can spend all of my longest day of the week, Tuesday,
Starting point is 01:23:33 listening to them. My bruh moment happened at some point during the Alex and James quadrilogy where Alex was reading old reviews he'd left on different Amazon products.
Starting point is 01:23:42 That was the porn one. I'm glad I fucking missed that. Oh, that was fucking class. It was actually funny as fuck. Yeah, but I've heard them all before. You wouldn't remember them. They're way worse than you remember. He liked Halo 4 in that time
Starting point is 01:23:56 so, you know, how bad it? Yeah, I did. I gave it like a really good reviews. on Amazon. I'd sit there and I'd review games. And I'd be like, here are the pros, here are the cons. He's my score. In Amazon reviews.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Sitting quietly at the front of the entire class with earphones in. I could just about hold my laughter at the HTML cable review non-sequitur. After about pausing for 10 minutes to regain composure, but completely lost it at the RAM review. as soon as Alex advised taking out a pair of scissors to cut along the line that had already been started did you get it
Starting point is 01:24:36 yeah I do on a stick of RAM it's got that little notch that looks like scissors have already started cutting it that was the joke for that one yeah I got it Jim being Jim's never unboxed up RAM then has he it was that
Starting point is 01:24:50 it was that RAM that I got for that red laptop laptop I know I'll double the RAM then I can play mine I pause the pod again to regain composure to hear the deafening silence of my class probably the most embarrassing thing to happen to me in recent memory I'd like to say I got a girlfriend out of this situation but if anything I think it only worse than the chances of that happening
Starting point is 01:25:18 just thought you ought to know it ruined my day keep up lads sorry for the big old post Mama Good afternoon, morning, evening That was funny Josh should go on the undatables What's that? You're on undatable
Starting point is 01:25:37 That's why you go on the undatables What is it there? It's a dating show For people who are undatable Who's undatable? Give an example Mummy John Bo Biglia
Starting point is 01:25:51 Whatever he's called? Joe Lodriglio Truglio I think Argy's Undatible No He doesn't have balls, so... He was in a relationship with Mini,
Starting point is 01:26:02 a Labrador, and a relationship with... No, Argue's actually a... He's a player. Yeah. He's a bitch, though. He's a buyer as well. And he's a giver, not a receiver. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:13 What's one of being a giver, not a receiver? Nothing, I'm saying that's a... Saying it's a good thing. Yeah. Like, you can sit back, relax, and peanut both of your bed hole. And thank you for listening to this episode. I did not fuck Argy. I did not come on an argument.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I didn't put my butthole anywhere near. Thank you for watching this episode of the Jarkast. Thank you again to our... Patreon. Patreon. Patreon's over at Patreon. Um... Same.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Same. Skadoosh.

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