JAR Media Posdact - locked-in-NORMAL-locked-out

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

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Me so soup, you so soup, everybody so, so sweet. Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, everybody. Welcome. Woo. Welcome to the broadcast number 48. Woo. I think. Let me look.

Three seven sorry. Woo. Woo. Uh oh. Do you remember we used to have the clapping and the cheering at the start of it? Let's be back. Yeah. Let's do it all over again.

Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. What are you pointing at? All the people in the crowd. Oh, that's who's cheering for us. Hooray! Now I'm going to debate Sam Harris.

See? what is is who's Jesus well it all begins with being in the afternoon morning evening or night ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha i was

really tempted to do that for the whole episode oh no i couldn't i couldn't i couldn't when would you have stopped me though um because i was really testing you last episode to see how far i could go but not that never seems to be far enough I can never push it far see I think I think this is a lesson I learned as a kid

right because you you used to have the ability to make me so angry yeah I was like the Joker and you were Batman and like that's so true like Jose Marie that literally happened yeah that did that would What have you done?

Yeah, that genuinely happened when we were kids. That's awesome. And I remember my dad always saying he's doing it because you react. I don't know why I said my dad, like we have different eyes. Our dad saying to me, our father. Our father. Yeah, like he, if you don't react, then he won't do it. Yeah, how's that been working for you lately?

Well, clearly it worked. I don't know. Did you just keep going yesterday? Maybe, maybe I just like, um, dissociate. And yesterday. Or last episode. Ah. Um, it didn't stop me.

That's for damn sure. But like, it doesn't, yeah. It doesn't phase me. You know? But I mean, like beyond into just life. I've become. Do you remember the last time I, like, got you to a point where you're like, actually agitated.

and you need to say something or have I just not been that disrespectful beyond just annoyance I feel like when I started like Batman begins doing push-ups you just like naturally stopped no words even need to be spoken

yeah no because the only one I remember is the inverse was the last time I I went too far our granddad where we were still living at home and our granddad came to stay taking my room so I had nowhere to be

so I was just practicing my shadow boxing right next to your face while you were you were 100% in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and one punch went too far Oh that is a bad combo Yeah yeah

Because you were pissed You were fucking angry already And then I punched you I punched you in the face for no reason It always comes back to the French It's their fault The French make that fucking piece of shit in Bro, of course they did.

Ubersoft. That doesn't surprise me. So in a way, it's their fault. They drive families apart, the French. Yeah. God. Also punching people in the face for no reason. But who taught you that?

Jeremy. Batman? Yeah, French Batman? Yeah. Well, I guess I'm Alex, joined by Jim. And Paisley here for once. Hello, Paisley here for once. You know, I looked after Augie the other day, and he was looking like a little cute little baby all day long.

He was snapping these pictures, left and right, and he was looking adorable in every image. And then I treat her like such a baby. Like, I went to use the gym, right? And I took her with me. And I was like, oh, she's looking cute. And I took a picture, and boy, did she look ugly? Yeah, she gains all these. I take a picture of her thinking, oh, she looks cute.

And then she just looks vile. And then I send you the picture, and you're like, yep, she's ugly. I don't even need to prime. Everyone is a little ugly. ugly thing oh poor creature she's got an ugly face she's she's like creasy oh what's wrong with being a bit creasy there's nothing wrong with being creasy but i don't know just the wrong type of creasy the wrong crease you know when you wake up and you've got like pillow pattern on your face yeah and it's weird permanent yeah mm-hmm yeah well you had a choice between

two pups and i guess we chose the wrong pup No, she's the right pup. Could have got her brother, Shrek. He fucking rolled in his own shit. And ate it, yeah. But anyway, before we get too deep into the show, let me shout out with those patrons over at the journal media Patreon that make this show possible.

And, in particular, the audio version, you got the raw, unfiltered MP3 over on Patreon ad-free. There's also the patron name tier. We get the first and second week of each month. You get your name read out. And things get a little bit dangerous. sometimes a little bit scary or a little bit frightening and of course there's jaft hours um we had the better man review we got the wallace and grommet up in there we got will the farta

which uh is undisputably the best episode and it's kind of left us in a position where it's like how do you kind of like the frank ocean problem you know how do you follow that up yeah what are you doing like how are you supposed to so i'm getting a bit scared i have one idea which i'm going to get your live opinion on now do you have a a playlist on Spotify of like the worst songs you've heard yeah because I've got one of those yeah maybe we could go through that okay no yeah that's that's actually if you can scream record you can get it and I don't know it might have to be patron only because of the way music gets dinged or whatever but we'll see about that um last but not least the JAR media group chat an ongoing

chatting. Self-explanatory. I'll chuck my little name in there. Hi, um, Jim and Alex sort of are going to record tonight. Would you like to add something to the conversation tonight? And there are people in there and they give suggestions. So far. So fire. That was like weirdly smooth compared to last episode where it literally took the first half to get through that segment um sometimes that's how it goes i was like particularly scattershot like i just couldn't stay focused i was like going where left going vamp right um i just couldn't keep it that's the only political structure i was talking about like gay dinosaurs or something like it was really like all over the place huh yeah i you said before we started recording last episode that you were

just feeling a bit off yeah that camera turned on and i was like nah he's that he's that's that's what's more than like oftentimes the best episodes are the ones that begin when i am like off or like just something's not right so i just got to bring it you know what i'm saying yeah you well like you you press those on buttons and it's suddenly like whimmy wam-wam was or do you know how i feel on the daily you remember men in black one uh-huh that guy he's got like a little alien living inside him

and he's like yeah yeah yeah feel like that little alien guy he's like just you know when you're um you lock in in like a multiplayer game or something you're just like boom bit bop bam you just go off yeah that alien was just he was just on a kill streak you know overkill

kill tacular funny reference um yeah And I guess speaking on that, we can go into housekeeping when we round up those conversations from the previous week and so on. Hi ZH6SS says the reason why people always talk about Alex's energy is that it fluctuates so hard. He either is acting like the chillest guy you ever met who just hit a blunt or like he's sniffed up a huge fat line of coke and the crackhead era has begun all over again. And Kash could reply to that saying this is exactly right.

is that exactly right um yeah for the most part i feel like sometimes um it can be one way and then one question so this is more of like a second half thing but one question can like paradigm final fantasy 13 paradigm shift you into like a different because i've been in sentinel you know like a mid- defensive yeah and then all of a sudden i need to go into like radagon i don't fuck i'm revenant i can't remember that i'm fucking game that um you get what i'm saying there um not your last so yeah is actually that is it that random like is a coin flip like which side of the two face you're gonna get uh uh i see i don't know because i thought

Last episode, I was going to get like, like low energy, you know, it was going to be a more, you know, like philosophical type episode. When you arrive, can you, like, sense it or is it? Sometimes, sometimes. Other times it's like, wasn't expecting that, or like I said, that question pops up and it just, it paradigm shifts. You could be, like, bonkers and then someone writes in, like, I just, I just. murdered my whole family you're like those are kind of my favorite ones where like it's really goofy and then it's super depressive yeah yeah yeah well just something really serious we get like it just totally changes in it yeah yeah i love that it's human man that's humanity yeah that's what

humanity is to me but like when you show up and then i'm like i'm just going to be the joker for this episode like what is the thought process for you survive the last level of reach like yeah just make it through do you never do you never ever find it infectious like you want to be a little bit of joke sometimes um is that just too much like like it would like there needs to be a disparity i don't know i i because you've you've always been that that like anime watching like like i i kind of like prefer the villain type thing whereas I've always been like you know Batman that's my guy Spider-Man he's my dog I sort of like the disruptors Superman you like the heroes superman I am

Superman you know do you know I mean um yeah I can see that I can hear that I can sing that so what I'm saying is I just try to be ordinary average normal you got normal on lock yeah normal locked in yeah yeah I'm locked in on normal that's what sucks about having follow up an episode like especially the first half of the last one right

where there's just it's like effortless but also so just genius yeah yeah you feel like Picasso painting the and it's just like yeah the Chekhov's gun the setups and the payoffs are just like

yeah smack yeah God damn. Yeah, sometimes I feel, um, because I, I've always thought I'm like really self-aware. Hmm. But I don't think I am. I think I'm actually like hyper aware of... Too aware. I'm just aware.

Where? Like a were like a werewolf, yeah. No, I hear that because we were just... Were we talking about that before we started? No. Huh? we're talking about what we're like we don't know we might have a read on the energy in the moment that then when watching it or editing it or listening to it after it's like

a completely different vibe and it's like oh like because my in my head i'll try and explain like the way i was in my inner monologue was like oh i'm i'm just i'm completely floundering here. I'm flustering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know what I'm even saying or what, what direction this is going, but then when I listen to it, I sound like, quite relaxed. Uh-huh. And like, I don't know. Just goofing. But inside I'm actually like, this is something crazy that I've, like, discovered over the past few years. And, you know, I'm getting old, you know. Don't that not that far off the pension sort of thing, right?

But I'm only just discovering now, like, I always thought that it was really obvious to everyone else how, like, anxious I am at all times. Yeah. And then I open up about it to some people, and they're basically like, they're either like, no, you're not. Or they're like, really? That's surprising. No way. Mm-hmm. Because, like, I, like, I'm, I'm performing this relaxed state of being so much. Do you think that's like masking? Do you think that's what that is?

I think it genuinely, I think it's like a defense mechanism, like, yeah. I'm just going to be chill and just blend in. Like Dexter. Awful comparison. Why would you use him? more like master chief or yeah like master chief or cortana yeah more like male cortana the one from halo four he looks like a world war two guy but yeah it could be but then then the question becomes what am i masking what you're running from that in a joker that yeah am i masking my ridler or am I the Batman mask Yeah

Green Goblin He's got a mask Oh yeah Yeah because I get home And I'm having that conversation I do that with Duck Pillow gaming He like talks to me You're gonna be the Joker next episode

Okay duck Pillow gaming Yeah All these like soft toys And like cyborg and shit I have conversations with me Who do you think has the most disturbing Like cadence

Oh shit Berg Sandy I'm thinking Mel Oh Mel Yeah I'm Remington You don't believe in

Evolution do you boy That really sounded like him Yeah I was going to say this one from Knockerless This is my favourite first 20 minutes Of the jarcast in a very Very long time Lots of laughs

Thanks dumb domes Um I'm not dumb I'm smart Comrade Bean says Hey Alex I have some tips for wanting to embrace your inner werewolf.

Listening to Maroon 5's animals, especially the part with the singer howls like a beast, makes me feel more comfortable in society. Also interjecting awkward silences in conversation with the phrase, I'm going where? Also alleviates some tension. Hope this helps.

Oh and I like this from I.K. Benjam 3527. Alex is legitimately having his Omneman Season 1 finale moment here with this one he's beating Jamie with his insanity and he can only watch and react would Alex destroy the world or conquer it we talked about what I'd do if I was Superman I think have we ever actually talked about it I feel like I did talk

about that like what I did you would essentially be it wouldn't be pretty you'd be omneman without invincible to stop him yeah just straight to dictate mm-hmm that's a that's an awesome title. Straight to dictate. Maybe. Um, this one kind of left me like, I'm a little bit torn, because um, I came out apologizing for one of my ongoing stims, please, please, please.

Um, which I just cut, I'm, I've turned on, I don't like it anymore. And the red spore says, I actually really hated Alex going, please, don't listen to the likers. But then Kung Thuleu says I actually really liked Alex going please don't listen to the haters Oh fuck so do I listen to the likers or the haters I've never heard likers before There aren't like many songs about the haters and not listening to the haters and that Wait no Likers. There aren't many Likers songs no I only listen to my likers This is the cultural divide that that we been talking about like his versus haters um basman 5591 says my children start crying as soon as i

put on jar keep up the good work bear bear and Mick Saladin says these guys again are they never off the air nearly 10 years brother we're grinding um and I want to I want to do this one from Battle Chicken 2. Alex and Jim dogging on a jarling for saying Alex's movie critiques were about lighting and stuff, saying he'd never complained about lighting in a movie.

Then his first complaint about wicked is the lighting. To which Alive a live slice replied saying he possibly intentionally misinterpreted the hyperbolic statement of the comment while you possibly unintentionally misinterpreted what

he was saying to that. The lighting which is a fair technical complaint was never important in that conversation in the first place plus was that really a Jarling or a random Twitter user who said that I was just kind of confused how why how that's like an own or a gotcha how how is any of I'm very confused there was in this is this to do with the M night Shyam yeah yeah it was around that was so where someone was like yeah all he talks about is like the lighting and my issue with that was like that's a weird complaint as if like one that's something I constantly talk about like and that's like the only thing I talk about is lighting but then also that like that's not a valid thing to talk about when you're talking about movies like lighting but they say relevant to your opinion on the film surely good or bad that's something that should be brought up and doesn't really disqualify a critique just because

of it being in the realm of of lighting like a what is it what I'll be honest I'm totally lost I don't yeah like what what is the a you then when I talked about wicked last week yeah you were talking about I was saying how I can't stand the lighting in the movie did you say that about the other movie the shame I didn't bring up lighting you didn't in that review I don't think okay but I stand by the fact that if I did then that was probably relevant to the review yeah I mean right Yeah, from memory that wasn't the only thing you criticised Wicked about. Uh-huh.

So it's like a brick in the wall. But so, like, if the lighting is bad, why would you not mention that? Well, yeah. That's what I mean. Like, you're not saying, I didn't like Wicked because the lighting is bad. Mm-hmm. It's like, I didn't like Wicked because... D-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. But like if you like wicked, then fucking great. Yeah, that's what I just don't get, you know? Yeah. Like, if you're having opinions about things that are like changing the world, maybe I can understand a bit of grief.

Yeah. But when it's like opinions on art. Art can change the world? What are you crazy? I'm talking about the art can, but opinions on that art. Oh, right, yeah. You know? Like, the stakes just aren't that high.

to me that's what gets me yeah you know when you're talking about captain america what even is the new one i don't know red hulk one captain america red hulk one i wish it was called that i'm hyped to watch that yeah same no i'm really not i watched the the whole show and everything i want to see anthony macky go here we go again let's do it again let's do that thing that we probably should have done in the movies but in a show that no one cares about because we've made the same show five times in like two years

um damn and the lighting sucks in all of them um there's something an anecdote I need to mention to you that I wanted to bring up last week but I'd honestly forgotten because it was

just it was so crazy I thought it was perhaps a dream but it was not a dream um and it started simple right I just I took Paisley for a walk and around here there these sort of uh mini reservoirs for when it rains and the water is like stored there um paisley was

off lead and without me knowing she kind of like ran towards the water and was like splashing around in it like causing chaos and by the time i caught up i noticed that she was kind of in a conflict with a cat right this quite big like ginger cat garfield like garfield yeah and but it was trapped like water so it was in the water and Paisley was kind of blocking it like doing that how deep was the water I mean it's swimmable like it's really deep water but swimmable for you yeah I could probably swim on it wow um it was like splashing at the edge like going towards Paisley who wasn't backing down wow and then all of a sudden the cat like jumps deeper into the water and swims to the middle of a room

Let's go, let's go, Garfield. And it just swims to the other side. And like the, everything just kind of froze in that moment. Yeah. That's a rare, like... Watching a cat swim was like so strange. Like, I've seen it, I guess, in videos, but it's different in real life when you're like... I was so, like, I was soy facing at it.

Like, in a way that I didn't even think to record it. I was so just like... Yeah, yeah. I can't believe what I'm seeing. Like even when I saw the heron the other day, I was right next to the heron. A heron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I got a nice video of it taken off.

They're graceful. They are graceful. There's something going on in those heads of those. But did the cat get out in shape? Yeah. I was thinking about when... It shook like a dog. Yeah.

Really? Yeah. Because if Billy's been out all night and it's been like raining, she'll sometimes come in all like soggy. But I was imagining... Yeah, but that's different. When that cat gets out. home to its owners and it's like just a stink of a bog yeah and they're like what happened to you

yeah that was crazy sometimes things just happen and you're like this is strange within fiction yeah stranger things yeah that was kind of a stranger things season five moment yeah wow am i in the upside down right now cat's swimming over here um i was a bit scared that pace he was gonna swim after it oh god yeah and she didn't very good swimmer she loves swimming no yeah she does good her swimmer a very good swimmer yeah i never see anything crazy these days yeah so some of my craziest things i've witnessed have been while walking dogs actually yeah yeah yeah make sense like doggers like these random animal encounters found a mole once that was sad yeah you found a mole

yeah you know like the mammal oh what did you think like a like the Russian microphone like yeah well no that would be a bug yeah a bug a mule would be like a a per cover person yeah because I guess they've dug and they're blind they're blind yeah they're blind a most blind or just not that good at looking I think they're blind because they don't need eyes really when you live underground. Like, for what purpose? They've got like a little sniffer

that looks like a... Prolaster asshole. Yeah, I hate... I hate their noses. I love the concept of moles. I just love that every niche is filled. You know? Yeah, Earth is good at that.

Every random niche. And we keep discovering new ones, too. Yeah. Like, there was a new fish that was found recently. Some kind of anglerfish or something. What does it do? It just like dies

It just like goes too high than dies Was this the one that like swam really high up Yeah and there's like never been one seen alive or something weird like that You just know there's some crazy niches being filled down there Yeah The octopus stuff down there Yeah I hate that

I just like thinking about before there were There were cameras or even like good ways of like having a reliable pen and paper like when people were traveling around the world at sea like what were they seen and then all these stories of like crackens and shit coming out because it probably did start from like a truth and then just chinese whispered into myth yeah that there's there's nothing scarier to me not true in the deep sea deep sea and space

I think there's a reason there's a combination between the two you know like what's the guy Lovecraft yeah yeah they're like they represent the same thing

to me like ancient ancient man looking out of the ocean and being like I'm gonna build some rickety ass boat and sail yeah I'm going out that to me is equivalent to NASA being like right we're going to the with 60s tech.

Yeah, I guess the crossover is unknown and environments that, like, humans shouldn't exist in, really, or be able to exist. Yeah, like, we're not designed for that, especially space. Like, we just, like, we had no concept of what was even out there. You know?

I'll tell you what I do have a concept of, though. Something mythical. Mr. Blue Pumpkin loves Nia. says, can we get the creative process behind Rumpel's new banger? Is Jim ever going to feature on the Up Down album? I think you have real MF Doom in your midst with the bars he could spit. And similarly, music slug says, what inspired the Rumple rap? And Bath tub Tom says,

Hello Jarr, short question for Alex. Can I have your blessing to play the man-man-rumple stiltskin song live on radio, cheers? Of course, my friend. Everyone should hear the rumble. What does that mean? Also, what, what? Huh? There's there been a new one.

There's a new one. When? A couple days ago. You want to know the premise? I'm kind of gathering. What do you think? Rumpel, pimple pump. Wait, so you already know?

No, this has been a thing. I've been here, echoes. I've been hearing echoes and whispers. I've been hearing echoes and whispers. for weeks, maybe months, since last year I think. Yeah. You've been working on this fucking

eight months. Yeah, I'm proud. I believe it. Is it your magnum opus so far? I don't know because, um... Is that possible? Magnum opus so far? I still think it's hard to be

I'm only human. Or whatever that was. Yeah. I would say you will particularly despise it because it's more like crazy goblins. Yeah, like freewheeling. Like free willy. Free bird. I just, you know, I was just thinking to myself like, I've always been in a, even before Shrek,

because people think it's like a Shrek reference, but the character of Rumpel Stiltskin growing up is one of those like Grimm's fairy tale stories that I've always been kind of gravitated towards. Yeah, I've always known the name. I don't know the story. He's like stealing children and like making them sign these contracts where like the only deal with all those The only way out is if you can guess his name, but he has a name so impossible to guess that he's just like trolling Yeah Yeah I I I'm one that's always stuck with me is like the Pied Piper Yeah freaky really freaky yeah the grim tales are freaky I mean like I'm it was a freaky time to be alive like

Yeah to be honest But yeah I've always kind of gravitated towards this character and I was like if he was still around today if he was still alive and Keckin you know Rumpel as he is as he was what would he want to say what would he want to communicate and I felt like I woke up that day and Rumpel just took hold of me and spoke through me as a vessel yeah you know did you create a beat for this I did you know what instruments I used what jaw harp obviously yeah um it's a given i actually got the bongos up really i'd forgotten about the bongos

um so i had the bongos going in the back and and one other instrument too that clickety thing yep you know i didn't even know what it's called just those three or any like electric um just sometimes a backing track of me singing okay or something yeah That's all it needed, because it's mostly about the lyrics, you know. Rampelpump! How long did it take you? Estimate. Like, you actually want to know?

Or the true answer of eight months. I kind of actually want to know. Editor, if you want. I want to know. I would say it probably took about eight months. Okay. That's still eight months. including from when when you're doing it there where you like locked in

I'm like probably locked in you're like sweating like like I don't like doing that I like doing that jZ thing where you like Presby record once and that's the only chance you get so it's like this is my one shot that's real as real as this is my one chance but this is the first one I think about laughing

sorry i i just want to really hone in on this process um do you create the beat and then you lock in and j z or do you this one was fuck because i wrote the lyrics first you wrote the lyrics that's not very j z of you no yeah that's what differentiates it from crazy goblins without not a single word was written for that yeah that was off the off the down this one's sort of been slowly stitched together over eight months uh um yeah you don't come up with um do the rumple jump without some deliberation you know

uh huh fuck okay full of guilt with the world that rumple built um yeah so I'm quite happy with that yeah I bet yeah I think next time I'll make the beat first

so you wrote it performed it and then made a beat around That's wild Wow Yeah That's so cool All I had was a metronome at first You're like anti JZ

You're reverse JZ Reverse JZ You're J.A J.A Yeah That's crazy So hopefully that Sort of opens things up

I've got so many songs bro I need your help actually Because you actually can play a few real instruments So that would be good I'd say I can play 0.75 instruments That's more than what my What does a dual harp count as

You've got like 75 instruments So you're about at the same level That's me Yeah But I'm Yeah I'm pretty happy with my jaw harp skills They're improving by the day You know

That's your like main that's my main musical talent yeah and like you I was the other day um

I mean not the other day the other week we were listening to something and you were like hold up I want to try and do this see this then you got it out and you like actually played the song and I was like okay

do you remember what it was no I don't it was impressive though I was like okay he's kind of got it I was happy with that in the last episode where I did the, Who will Groo Beat tonight? That's the question.

Yeah. I'm getting quite confident with you, you know? Yeah, for sure. And I've always got it in arm's reach. Uh-huh. You know? Like, give me something. Like, you're waiting in line of the bank.

Yeah, but I need like a tune. Mm-hmm. Like, I can't get who grew up to night out of my head now. A different frail one? Huh? A different frail one? Happy? No, do happy, do happy, do happy.

Do do happy. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, de, de, de, do. Yeah. Is that? Yeah. Yeah. So, I need to add some other things. my repertoire but yeah

for sure I'm like in where things are you got like a whole basket going yeah I got ideas bro I'm gonna I got ideas and then I drew rumple I think you you really should have one of those

things like you put the tube in your mouth oh I really want those yeah yeah I get crazy or one of those they're like a hundred good day really just for that tube yeah I can't remember what they're cool Okay, why not? Um, but to end this segment, I want to shout this one out from the crass, crass captain, crass?

Crass, probably. No, crass. Stop being so crass, will you? Um, watched Alex's new destiny video and think it's outstanding. One of his best videos in years, but it had me curious. How many hours does he have across both destiny games? He has to have at least play through the campaigns of each expansion as well as whatever other general playtime he has. I'd love to know how much he's dedicated to a franchise that only continues to disappoint him.

This is going to be brutal. I looked it up very bad. Oh, no. Is this across all platforms as well? Yeah, I, I, I, I, oh, fuck. So I got Destiny 1 and Destiny 2. Uh-huh. Destiny 1, I put a total of 1,439 hours in.

Fuck me. And 40 minutes. I have no game that's that high. And then Destiny 2, right? Split across two platforms. On Xbox, 327 hours. On Steam, 840 hours. Over 1,000, that?

Wow. So over 2,000 hours in Destiny total, probably. Yeah. Yeah, that's like 2.5,000. Yeah. So, like, in my overall, if I could see a... pie chart of like my whole game of time spent like bungee basically owns it wow yeah with halo as well yeah wow mm-hmm which is partially i guess why i was so upset in that video

like all the state we're at and how this is just gone now like it's just finished their studio um yeah yeah that's emotional my closest is apex i think yeah a thousand hours an apex. I think so. Really? Yeah. And I uninstalled it recently. There was something quite therapeutic to have got to say about like finishing that video and then going in steam and uninstalling destiny. That's a really good step. That's it does feel like the first step of a 12 step kind of process. Yeah. Admit you have a problem. Make your nine hours of destiny videos. Then just pull the plug. until maybe the next one comes along

they might fix it this time it might be good now this one might kind of do something mad dude yeah that's wild I almost feel like a victim you know what I'm saying yeah I mean

they targeted me I'm surprised what you like yeah you want some of this then you I'm surprised after that first um experience of

gambling in Vegas. I'm surprised you weren't like life savings deep. I think because of my destiny experience, I kind of got that energy out into, and luckily for me, destiny won, like, in the period where you couldn't really buy shit either. So like, I wasn't tempted to buy. It was just play. So like, yeah, it's waste the time. Yeah, but I bought like, just all the expansions and. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like, as far as like every hour. hour I've got for money put in like yeah that's a pretty good uh ratio but well see I that's just never jelled with me the idea of something being like a a platform for the rest of your life this is your thing now your hobby yeah it's like no that's not why I play

video games it was like to me it was a new and interesting concept at that time though yeah and it was yeah it does get you with this potential of like now just think about what's coming there just yeah yeah we're gonna do yeah that's almost more addictive that is the just imagine if you win that next lottery ticket like type psychological cycle that you're going through yeah it's it's it's way less on the light yeah it's actually it's kind of more insidious though because like it can never live up to your dreams whereas like if you buy a lottery ticket you could win the lottery that's what it was strange though

is like I didn't think at a certain point that it ever was going to live up to any kind of dream but then in their last best expansion they do what I was asking for the whole time and then the studio's dead and gone so it's like so what does this even like mean getting at this point it's so strange Yeah

So you could do it But just You just At the expense of everything And you lost everything By the time we got it Yeah Yeah just wild

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You got cars to drive. plan to just to fly. Welcome to the second half of the cast, we head over to the suggestion thread over on the sub, just on the subreddit and answer some questions. But first, if you got this far, comment. Or perhaps comment, you got cars to drive, plan any jets to fly.

Yeah, man. You say? Oh, I'm not really sure what's start with today. So many good ones. Start with Grammy Jame. No, I purposely left him out. I'm sick of him. Wow.

Sick of him. Wow. Going to go after him. Wow. Um, D4, gongk, 1d says, What are your thoughts on Gen Alpha slang? Sigma Gat.

Skibbidi. etc. Sigma is not alpha. What is it then? Sigma's beta. Surely that's like, uh, what is it called? Gen Z. I think

Sigma's millennial. No. See, my issue with Sigma is the like in-cell connotations. I don't like it, like originating from that. Yeah. But Sigma... like the majority of millennials are sigmas i.e. insults.

But just because it's a good word to describe them doesn't mean that they necessarily like are using it. Like do boomers call themselves boomers? I'm a baby boomer. I'm a sigma. Um, no. I feel like sigma crosses

boundaries no I feel that way about skibbidi well like who's getting harmed by it like this the origin it comes back to half-life which goes into a different generation I kind of like that link yeah it's harmless who cares the song's good the song's good the series is good it's got law man no problem with that what about get I don't like yeah no no just say bottom But giat means Gia damn

Yeah Like Gia Yeah Yeah Yeah damn Yeah And it's turned into bottom Yeah

Bottom But bottom burp But it means God Yeah God damn Gat Gat

Gat Damn Gia damn Yeah God Do you remember in Gangnam

style when he goes what's gangnam style is that millennial and that must be millennial what's that like 2015 2012 sorry I feel like it's gonna make a comeback I remember that being like a seminal moment for me when it was like you were like I'm out of touch no kind of the opposite was more like maybe there's something to this internet thing When our nap was like, I just learned about Gangnam style. I was like,

Skidush. What are you saying? What are you confused by? No, what does that mean? I was like, this shit's going global. The internet. That was the moment you're like,

yeah, maybe this new technology will stick around. Yeah. But Nana's in the kitchen doing the gangnam style. yes i think that is yeah stop it no no yeah um i'm fine like i i think you need to accept that there's a point where you're not going to be up to date oh yeah except at that point alone i think this is my cutoff gangnams though no like like skibbiddy and stuff like I I can keep up with that the next thing is gonna be like huh and then it's

gonna be like huh and then it's gonna be like uh huh yeah like I feel that whenever I see a meme with that like the ui ah like cat you seen that one no um I'm not on TikTok so I'm like a year behind just YouTube Shores the re uploads yeah yeah yeah hmm well I'm sorry I do like the Bamba clot memes the. Really? Me Bamba Clark. Yeah. Um, what is Bamba Clock? It's like Jamaican slang, isn't it? Yeah, but what does it like mean? I remember hearing it in GTA 4 and being like, what is that? Who says it in 4? It's one of the radio. Little Jacob. He's one of the main characters. He's like, uh, his thing is that he's Jamaican and you can't understand anything

you're saying. What months it drop in this year? October or September? September they're always September yeah I feel good about September rock star is always September but it's not coming out this year no it is no it is it's coming out 2026 September 2026 nice locked in they were reassuring the stock holders recently borderlands is coming out yeah must take two they pissed that out quick they took like 10 years to release borderlands three and it was dick they're like yeah shit out another mark applies the villain in the new one weirdly

like actually him and jack septic i like as a team no wait really like actually yeah no you're fucking lying yeah you're not that good lying no i am you're not or am i or am i fuck i love key says Okay, I'm only going to ask this once, and if you do not answer, I'm going to get angry Okay, drop lots of sweat up here on my head. You do not want to see Papa get angry. I lick my lips aggressively. My question, animal battle royale. Every animal one-on-one against every other animal. Each pair fights two rounds, one in each habitat, e.g., gorilla versus carp, fight one in jungle, fight two in pond animal with most wins defeated in both rounds is best animal what animal is going to get that trophy if you behave i will reveal the truth of the matter using my dark heavy cloak i

disguised myself with and disappear into the night loved how that was written um terrible question terrible question though why really confusing i don't know how to answer two so two each right There's every matchup, but picture this, bear jungle, or bear, bear woods versus shark woods. Bear winds. Bear wins. Yeah. Ocean shark, bear shark. I feel like a bear could fight in the ocean.

Shark rate swimmers. No, why? It's a hole of a fish. Yeah, it's a fish. What does bears eat? Not sharks. A great white shark versus a bear in the ocean. Like bears are good swimmers, but a shark is going to kill a bear in the ocean, in a fight.

Are they like enraged at the start and they're like just... Yes, they're having a fight. They're like full on at each other. You know, like Dark Souls AI. Right. program to go against each other that explains it then yeah yeah okay maybe it'd be more of a

there'll be more of a fight than the shark on land though yeah I'd grant you that but that's still a tie shark wins in the ocean so that's a tie so there's going to be loads of ties

so I guess you need to think about what's the best overall being I'm gonna say octopus Oh I can fight on land Yeah Like do they get a choice of weapons at the beginning Like a gladiator

Because then they get eight weapons True They are cool Short lifespans though sadly short Really? How long? It's only like two years or something They live Well to them

You know that's it To them that's it You're not first I'm running out time Um John Lennon Skibody says Bear Bear Jim and Alex Decade long watcher

No time commenter Until today You've gone too far In your January 13th episode Original Geezers You made a joke about Elon Musk Not spreading his seed Creating Gen Beta

Until late February slash early March I don't know if you've heard the news About the MAGA influencer That just gave birth to his child but it's made me wonder if you manifested it. Why would you do this? And can you manifest me not getting kicked out

of my degree for aggressive in studio behavior? What? What the fuck was that last bit? Side note. Side note, but I've been catching up on the cast in reverse order and I keep having to hold in my laughter which in turn makes me look like I'm crying. It's a bit hard to explain to people on my degree

that an adult man talking about his chunky norovirus shit with his brother is what's making me laugh without coming across as insane please be less funny in your future casts many thanks much love that's not being funny that's just talking about poo yeah you're being the child on that one yeah idiot what the fuck was that other bit though why would you do this and can you manifest me not getting kicked out of my degree for aggressive in studio behavior what's aggressive in studio behavior it must be like a typo which word they yeah it seems like two put together aggressive in studio behavior question mark aggressive in studio i guess you could get kicked out for being aggressive in the

studio can we like put any context clues together no barely i hope you don't get kicked out of uni that was crazy but don't be aggressive because then maybe you should be kicked out of uni And also get a better trying to hide laugh face. I go, cry. I go, pretend I'm coughing. Yeah. Well, there was... You're like a dying character in a movie.

Don't make me laugh. There was, um... What was I do? I was listening to... My trash, like, content at the moment I've been obsessed with is, um, lol cow live. With Keemstar Boogie and Wings of Redemption, right? Oh fuck

And there was one the other day that I was like I was like doing laundry or something Like listening to it And there was a part where like Kim Star is always getting them to do like challenges Right And he was like Look stand up

And the challenge was just how long they could stand up for Oh my God Because they can barely stand up 10 minutes boogie can't you can barely stand up unassisted for 10 minutes and they're like building up to this like fat camp it's crazy man it's just sad it's completely crazy and there's one the other day where they have so boogie and wings of redemption have like who the fuck is wings of redemption you don't know wings no like even with all the like cold stuff i'm surprised you don't know him um maybe i don't know yeah but there was one the other day which was so insane and

everyone always says it's like scripted or whatever it just seemed like how do you even get this working because even keemstar seemed surprised in the moment right like and he's seen some shit yeah boogie and wings of redemption have like they have the most incessant like radical haters like just go so far um And somehow someone had like figured out that in the 80s when boogie was young, he has some kind of criminal record and some fan like found it and brought it to like Keemstar and then he like drops it on this live stream like what is this like criminal record all about? And he basically panic. He gets boogie into such a panic state that he gets boogie to admit to like murdering someone that he didn't do. and he's like freaking out

and he admits to it he's crazy wait what he admits to a murder that he didn't be he admits that he killed like somebody and he's like

he's like having a panic attack like freaking out that's horrible though I know I know boogies like a fucking cun and it was just like you're acting buggy

but but if he did if he does have a criminal record then why admit to murder yeah exactly it was so bizarre I was guaranteed to be so much worse it was crazy crazy live stream yeah okay it's so fucking that's wild um I don't know how I got there um yeah what was the like actual question on that Oh, it was a complaint about as being too funny. I thought there was a question in the first half. No, no, I put my hands up, but yes, we'll reel it back, okay?

Okay. I won't. I can't be getting you to admit to murders you haven't done, but, uh, can try. Is that what last episode was? Kind of. I'm sorry, I keep squeaking my mic. I keep squeaking this tiny chair that I'm on. I haven't noticed even once.

There's one for you here, bro. Okay. From Heat Wave, MF. Heat wave! Jim question. My girlfriend is a prolific speech talker. Again, voice to see, uh... I didn't even notice this when I was like, cap in these.

Speech talker. Yeah, there's some good ones. he meant sleep talker to be i actually understand oh okay this isn't a aggressive in studio behavior type moment um my girlfriend is a prolific sleep talker the other night she woke me up while she was asleep to tell me she had undergone a transformation of sorts and that she was now double spider-man when asked to elaborate she said with zes still floating from her head that she was bitten by a spider once becoming Spider-Man, and then she got bit by another spider. Oh fuck.

Already being Spider-Man once and became Double Spider-Man. Unfortunately, she returned to a state of deep sleep before I could ask her to elaborate on what powers double Spider-Man would have. But it can be assumed that it would be a power level beyond that of Spider-Man once. So Jim, would you rather be Spider-Man once, normal Spider-Man, or double Spider-Man with whatever powers he may have? Will you stick with what you know or venture into the unknown in pursuit of power? beyond um i think it depends on if someone else gets to be double spider-man if i'm normal spider-man i'll take double spider-man like without even knowing really no but to me the consequence would have to be that you end up being a spider-man villain if you're double

spider-man that's fine and spider-man normal has to beat you you know i'm you know what i'm you know i'm in you know when you shoot your webs the normal like two webs come out but then two more that go towards each other and like spell a word what spider like just whatever you're doing at the moment hmm like whip bang swish oh it creates like the yeah the comic like blam you know I saw that from a venom comic like he shoots venom webs that's right yeah Just another reason why Venom just Why you're so anti-Venom? He's lame

Let's come on Let's go We are Venom We are I don't know man I'm gonna disagree with you Come on then I like venom

I don't I'm more of a riot man myself More of a carnage I like carnage Companion He's kind of like venom but red i like um shriek gray i'll be honest i like all the spider-man villains that are just like guys they're bank robbers yeah they rob banks and they're like uh wings i've got wings yeah

i'm electric you know i'm a guy that is electric i'm a goblin yeah i'm just a guy that's a goblin what do you think double spider-man would be well he actually has like um eight limbs that like a man bat situation where he's like yeah yeah yeah how do you feel about man bet um i like it in the same way i like kill a crock where it's like stupid

um it's really cool in um uhcum night yes like actually scary yeah i love that shit and like because he's batman and he's like the most serious dude ever but he's got to come to terms with man bat

He's like Well it fits into the Arkham thing I don't know how they could really do it in like a movie Without it being I reckon they should do that for the next Robert Patton one Manbat

Yeah just just go crazy with it Like have Killacrock Manbaugh And Clayface Yeah they're doing a Clayface movie though already Huh

Solo Clayface movie So we'll see how that turns out Yeah, double Spider-Man. I think he can just eat more. Like Dexter. Does Dexter eat? Yeah, that's like what's clever about the intro. He's like obsessed with breakfast.

And he's like always eating like donuts and shit. And he's like got a crazy metabolism. And he's always eating. I never noticed that. He eats grapefruit. Yeah? I really want to say about Dexter, but I should probably just save it. Um, I don't want every episode to be about Dexter.

Um, bottomless... What does that say? Sprit rising? Spit rising. Thoughts on play video game? I have played previously a game more twoned in the distant past far future. I will but not. Now have you.

Are we starting to get the AIs? Do you think that's AI? There's too much intent in that. AI stuff's more like scraped, where it kind of just like repeats the thing, but it's like... Yeah, like when you do the predictive tax just over there. Yeah, yeah. Um, try harder. Try more epica.

Try to be more. Buhn Buh Ha ha ha ha. Her past confusion 3234 says Alex mentioned before that he writes his creative in a little journal on Sardonicast. Have you ever considered making a novel or a film through one of these ideas?

And if so, would you just upload it online like on YouTube for everyone to enjoy? Or would you do it through more professional means? Are you going to make a movie? Um... only if I can get the critic involved. what the critical drinker team up

a team like an Avengers style we get angry Joe we get the critical drinker we get just everybody hey don't bring angry Joe into this why we get because he's legitimate

no we get what's his face you know blade Wesley Snipes yeah we get Wesley Snipes in there we get the guy who reviews

Blade. What's his name? Jeremy Jones? Wow. Oh, fuck, yeah. You get him in there. He's like the main one. He, like, is the Captain America of the group. Right. I always felt like Iron Man was the main one. He doesn't have the, how they say Riz. He does. He's...

I'd say... Captain America... Ooh, he, he, doesn't he like, screw his own nephew or something weird? Um, that's riz. No, he, he, he kind of, he, he's got like Drake vibes. Captain America. Yeah, he, is it Penny? Oh, he's into Penny, but Penny's old when he's young.

So he's got to go for, you're too old for me. He's, no, he's got to go for Penny's, like, great granddaughter. or great niece yeah and he's like fine that will do wait no

a conundrum for old cap isn't it yeah so then he time travels back to get both does that undo what he did with her no that still happened in the main timeline yeah right which is really strange no like add some textures

maybe he then he creates busted I've been to the world yeah i've been to the year 3 000 yeah sorry not the world 3 000 not much has changed but we live underwater and my great great great granddaughter is pretty fine yeah and your great great great great granddaughter she's kind of fine i rizzed her up to heed um um i don't know i've got a few what was the question it was about my little journal of ideas Okay I've got what

No I can't say them No I gotta say In case they get stolen In case they get stolen I've got hundreds Really? No I've got thousands I've got thousands

I've got thousands I've got so many I could just give you one right now Okay go on Dream Genies I've got one Go on Rats

Dream Genies Semicolon Rats Yeah The rats are taken over by dream genies you know it's kind of like inception paprika rats

like rats are getting like technology from genies and they're getting more advanced and getting controlled by genies and then you can open it with the jean genie by David Bowie Gene Jeanie look at the rats yeah

AI David Bowie can he can just be in it He can be the main rat. Yeah. David Bowie is rat. And the second main rat. He's both the main two characters. Yeah.

Like different voices or both are just the same? They're both him. He's both. One is the thin white duke and one is Ziggy. I have one. I've built this whole universe around a dream that I had. It was like an image. like so striking yeah yeah yeah i got to reverse engineer this image and make it make sense

yeah yeah yeah was it the creature that killed everyone that you care about no no i'm not going near that guy no i'm not ready for that one yeah it's uh it's cringy and no one cares but i wish i had a dream journal why not make that wish a reality it's a very like achievable thing because it's lame as hell why is it lame I'm sick of it I don't want people to know my dreams Ooh I'm so I'm a bit scared of being embarrassing

So I'll never do it Don't say that Am I wrong No No but dream journals are like cringy Well yeah if you're like forced people to listen to everyone It's supposed to be for you Right? Yeah

I don't know I don't know I don't know Maybe it's just not something I could do Exactly Then you start thinking about Apex Predator and you're like There are some dreams that are like Fuck

I wish that was real You know Yeah it's fine I was like a week ago I was having like melatonin Tell me go to sleep Yeah yeah yeah and you have crazy dreams on melatonin Do you mean uh uh uh uh yeah

But I was in this state It was like a That border of being sleep and awake And it's like bliss Yeah But then like as you notice you're coming out of it It's like a Yeah

Take me back And then you like can't get back to it until the next night Your Spider-Man 2 The woman who's being pulled by the dock off claws I want to go back Yeah no I when I had norovirus for three nights in a row

I was taking night nurse and I began like come the third night I was like getting really like like excited like anxious excited to have my night nurse because of how

incredibly good my dreams had been the past two nights you were getting addicted to the dreamland yeah I felt like it was inception you know like I was going into that realm where I had like control and shit because night nurse wipes you out

night nurse has had it in a long time no but I was having like a quarter of the dosage oh really yeah it was still doing that yeah um what I think if I was having full dosage I'd be full gone

yeah yeah what is it in that stuff I don't know but it's incredible and then night four came and I was like I can't keep doing this otherwise it will get to a point where I can't stop yeah I will inception myself the the like balance will be like more in dreamland then yeah yeah and then my life just falls to pieces but those dreams I I was incredible I was amazing I was everything I ever wanted to be they weren't scary no they're total opposite I was like I was

the man in these dreams mm like it gave me in the real life no it gave me like an ego boost like I was the guy really I was like I was like Will Smith walking up on stage you were like the rock you know no I was like Will Smith I was like what did you just say about my wife but you're always like that off camera yeah yeah yeah I it was just a vibe it's it was strange to wake up from a dream and be like that felt really good you know

yeah that's what I was getting addicted to with the melatonin dreams I was like this nice this crazy yeah but mine aren't it's like a nice feeling but what I'm actually seeing is horrible you know what I'm saying yeah kind of where it's like a mishmash of like recent things

yeah but like combined in a way that's just confusing and kind of wrong you know what it might be more it might not be the drugs it might not be the melatonin it might not be the night nurse I'm just what's happening no what what's happening lately um in the sky uh the planets are aligning oh you're saying it's a message from theseus I think it could be some sort of um Neptuneian reptile Reptile Finally the god ray is hitting us

Uh huh Finally It could be Should I leave the Apex stuff in What are you doing I don't know if they deserve it Can you trademark it

Can you like get the rights now Because the second Someone like with any equity but suddenly like next month like Netflix it'll be like part of the MCU and everyone will be like oh they're actually adding

ape X no that was ours we made that it was my idea the whole time do you remember the buffalo it's the worst thing I've ever like created it was like really horrible Yeah

I must have been like 15 years old I like started writing this story called the buffalo It was like this Vicious Buffalo He had like an inner monologue And he could like talk and stuff Uh huh It was like an anthro buffalo

Okay And he was like going through I guess America and he was like just vicious what do you mean by that he was like he'd go up all like

sly and suave to other animals and be like what's up and then he'd just get them well like attack yeah he would like torture them what the fuck kill them yeah it was really disturbing

Jesus was it all anthrow animals I remember, like, writing it in, like, paragraphs. I'm, like, putting it, like, on Facebook somewhere. What the fuck? No, I never knew about that buffalo. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah.

That period of the internet, like, I was just doing some crazy shit. No, but also, like, I remember you saying about, um, like, your English GCSE. Yeah. You wrote, like, a story about these. like cannibals that rode polar bears or something? And because I remember my story it was like the lamest most boring

fucking bog standard shit ever and then I heard yours and I was like you can do that? I always got quite good like Yeah because you got like way better than me. Like way better grades. It's like oh so I could have

just done fucking like penguins with like axes. Yeah. Like Viking. penguins. Yeah, because I'd just look up into the top right of my eyes. Whatever you hallucinate.

You're like, I'll go with that. Yeah. Wild. Like, do you... Your ideas, are they like a visual thing? Inside of your head. Is a memory in visuals?

Are you like seeing it, like, seeing it like a video game or is it words or is it can you not see anything it's it's it's it's more like holographic holographic so like if uh you can have like a 3d image in your head of a pair and move around yeah but it's not um like I I can but it's it's not accurate yeah I don't know I've always I've always found though like sometimes I'll be trying to sleep and I'll be like I'll be like trying to sleep and I'll be like trying to to picture something but my like my mind is changing it? Right.

If it's like a face, I don't know how to explain this, because this isn't all the time but sometimes if I'm trying to sleep, I will like picture a face but it like swells.

And I like I'm trying to research. Why are you picturing a face to go to sleep? Well, I'm not like intentionally doing it. Oh so you can't like then fucking then it's like between the dream state thing right it's it's i i genuinely have no idea how to explain this phenomenon but i think it it kind of represents all of the the way i picture things because i like i can't draw i can't like picture something and then draw it right um but yeah it it could be an apple

that i'm that's in my head and then it's almost like a it's something else is changing it like swelling it making it like you can see them doing that or it's just being stretched it's just like i'm i'm like trying to keep it to this one thing that i know but it's being changed right against your will yeah right interesting it's it's very strange yeah whereas i can kind of relate to that in terms of um everything like in my subconscious or like my ideas they're all like visual it's all like a visual thing it's like putting up the rectangle with your hands and like seeing yeah yeah and is that like even like narratively if you tell yourself a story in your heard is it you like visual is there words alongside it um there could be a narrative you

wouldn't see that I could maybe like hear it um in some form mm-hmm um but it's like a one of those blessing and a curse things I feel like um if your imagination can do that sort of thing I feel like it's why certain concepts when I was young were like extra disturbing to me or would like just mess with me in ways that they might not for others like when I first saw the original Harry Potter and that weird scene where Voldemort's like flying as a rag like through the yeah that's and how uncanny that looked and something about the imagery in the like way it moved was like seared into me I I can picture that exact bit because it's so uncanny is the right word because like the bottom half of his body goes over like a root

yeah and it brushes mm-hmm so it like cements it in the scene and makes it kind of feel real yeah really freaky cool stuff really cool actually yeah i mean the the i feel like the the the film and stuff that fucked with me big time was a bit more violent like i remember uh the the the like CEO guy and Robocop when I watched that film was like five years old when he's getting blasted by the machine gun and like the flap of his skin

it's just being blasted as like flopping everywhere yeah that that that shit kind of gets seared into your mind when you're a little kid or like the and it's why I think I like movies

is because of how much they scared me yeah and having to find some way to overcome that fear yeah it makes you like rationalize it and find out how they did it exactly yeah so that it's not real even though they like made me feel this like sickness like watching alien and like american wealth in london and stuff and it being like so like so off-putting and made you feel so

wrong there was something that always like drew me to them um and like that psychological horror of something like a parasitical alien attaching itself to you and bursting out of you and what that looks like and everything um and then when it gets a bit more into like ghostly stuff like the grudge really haunted me for a long time that face the sound and every dream i would have would uh even if it was like a normal dream like it was a dream about us just doing this podcast in the dream i would just look up and they would be a great with that face looking through doing that sound um just like haunted by that and i and i don't even really find that film really scary at all yeah it's more just like the concept and like yeah i find um

i find with a lot of movies like as i've gotten older you know when you're watching horror movies and you're thinking like oh why are they doing that why are they doing this why they're doing that um you if you put yourself in an actual like empathetic like situation and you force yourself like i've i'm sure like everyone's done this i'm sure where you you psych yourself out so hard everyone's done it like when they were younger going up the stairs and it's dark yeah it's like what what if there's something behind me well like you have to go downstairs where it is dark yeah yeah yeah what if there's something around the corner i remember always thinking like because it's it's a it's a horror movie um cliche they're like

turn the light on in the mirror yeah yeah there's something behind you turn around there's nothing there turn back is it like it's something yeah yeah um but like you can psych yourself out to such a point where it's it's practically real yeah well that's what I was kind of getting at with the blessing and a curse thing because like I was I must have been about like 14 between the ages of like 14 and 17 I had this really bad recurring like you could almost call it like an intrusive thought that like I knew wasn't real but it was like giving me like a fight or flight reaction with the recurring one was like I was imagining that like a closed door in three seconds someone was gonna burst through and just start like stabbing me with like a knife really um yeah and like playing through like how obviously don't know how that feels but like kind of going through the process of like how that might feel how i might like emotionally react to that or like the and then actually experiencing an adrenaline kind of rush yeah yeah yeah i don't really get that one anymore

it's like other things now um like now i'm older i can like control it hence where like the bird came from the bird yeah like my peaceful oh the bird yeah yeah yeah it's the mine palace kind of of idea the um the celeste um feather right basically yeah yeah where it's like somewhere in the world like the underside of a bird kind of gliding um uh with the the peaceful sounds of the sea and A clear sky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like going there instead of the murderer. Yeah, I remember you saying

when we were kids about a nightmare that was essentially that. Maybe that's where it began. Because I'd always have these really, like, disturbing nightmares. Like, another one I, uh, when I was young, and did swimming lessons all the time. And it's part of why I think I was quite good at swimming. is like my motivation for swimming fast was that I imagine that there was a grate at the bottom of the pool

and there was a shark that was going to be let out um so I had to get to the other side as quickly as possible wow you were like unlocking adrenaline like power you didn't even have to be that But like where the dreams, I had this recurring dream specifically of, it was like really horrible, being in like a swimming lesson and our dad was there on the side of the pool and a killer whale for some reason was in the pool and it would grab him and pull him under and that's when I'd wake up. That was like a recurring dream I'd have. Wow. That's bleak as fuck. Yeah, but I've got millions of these Like the bug on the beach

Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, just fucked up shit Like horrible shit So at a certain point I just had to be like Enough's enough, I gotta go to the bird I gotta take some control over this fucking Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, world It's being forced, be forced to look at

Yeah Yeah, no, I don't blame you Yeah, I don't think I had I ever had anything like that like emotionally fucked up I think the the scariest dream I've had that stuck with me was um

and again I feel like this is everyone's had this one is the like quicksand yeah I or like the being chased by something and you can't move yeah I I remember um before I'd ever even seen the fly with Jeff Goldblum

which did fuck me up when he turns into a fly that film was... A little maggot being born Oh my God, yeah I can picture that perfectly that I can fucking 3D render in my mind I remember that really disturbing that

Oh man Um Yeah I remember like a I think it was because of The Simpsons Do you remember that they do like a fly thing Yeah that's head gets replaced with a fly

Yeah yeah but I yeah yeah but it was it was Bart's body and his head is a fly but there was like a fly guy in my dream yeah oh dear

and yeah I think it was the scary mansion that our granddad lived in like stairs there and the fly was coming up the stairs and I had to run away up the stairs but it was like I was in caramel. And what was scary about that one is like,

our granddad lived in this... It was like... He, like, married into this farmer family. Mm. And his wife's, brother's wife... Uh-huh. Had this, like, enormous house in the middle of nowhere that was like five stories tall.

and he rented the like very very top of it and throughout the year it was like rented out for like big families and what yeah legit in the middle of nowhere just nowhere in Wales right and it's got like it's just the total stereotype horror house there's like a room with a grand piano in it there's like in the basement yeah in the basement guns mounted on the walls and animals

yeah yeah head Yeah, we're talking full-on resident evil Yeah, there's like a barn With like all like broken like roof Yeah, yeah, you've got to like venture through all the big stinging knittles and stuff together So like as you like leave the front doors of this like mansion There's just like woodland There's nothing

And like we have this We just have this weird vibe whenever we're there It's just got like bad energy Yeah That's it yeah that's such a good weapon Or like gas leaks it was like there was just

something off about it and then just a few handful of years ago we learned that like multiple people have hanged themselves there yeah like straight up yeah we're like there as kids

like we run into those woods like just exploring looking for the barn owls and stuff like do you remember getting lost in or like you were in that house chilling watching TV or something and then you realize nobody's with you yeah that and that was one of my core memories was the first time i saw et oh yeah yeah because i was like in the in the downstairs where everyone else

was like five stories up in and it's like this it was so everything was so old and run down and it was like what decade was it like 70s like aesthetic all these like really old sofas and everything was stinky and ugly and smoke of like smoky musty yeah and i was sat in this like chair by myself watching et and those who remember that movie you know that like the beginning before you see him is actually quite scary like it's built to be i have like quite a lot of tension and i'm like this little kid i like had a breakdown that might have started all the nightmares yeah yeah but yeah there's something just creepy about that place yeah It's crazy

I'm like I'm really happy I didn't know that before Yeah I would have seen shit Mm-hmm Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's knocked down now Doesn't exist yeah, because like it was so run down They like couldn't afford to It wasn't worth like yeah, it just wasn't worth it

It was just getting dangerous It's like so just Terrifying Weird fucking experience Terrifying Maybe we should become like Ghost hunters And our granddad

With all this like World War II Like just shit Yeah you had like a grenade In his underwear You had like gas masks You remember that Oh my god

Yeah It had all this scary like Gas masks So fucking weird Yeah It's just wild Yeah so maybe It's starting to make sense

Actually Yeah with this fucking crazy imagery yeah um yeah don't know how i really got there but i'm less haunted by it as i've learned to control it you know like the force or like bruce banner and the hulk red hulk i'm always scared that's my secret yeah yeah that's messed up but it I mean, a fear that you don't know you have until you play video games. Because I've been playing the Outta Wilds lately, space.

There's like a black hole that does all like the warp shit. Yeah, yeah. I remember finding that existentially terrifying when, like, in Mario Galaxy, you die by being sucked into a black dog. Yeah. Where's Mario going? What's happening to it? Yeah, but like, we don't even know. Is he being, is he being censored?

somewhere is particles just being like torn apart at a base level both is he being ripped apart and like put back together somewhere else maybe too far did it for a little Mario game but just like the the void yeah yeah I would have that's right that was another period where um I saw the trailer for day after tomorrow a really stupid film so that the big wave one yeah yeah like a disaster movie like we've seen a million of them from i can't remember his name right now um but something about that like really just disturbed me like that level of destruction on that scale on that biblical scale and then i started having all of those kind of fears the the black hole sucking in the earth and like there there is a name for this fear

for like things that's so enormous um i i can't remember what it's called um but there's like loads of these corny tech talks of like a cg like giant it's like what would you do if it was oh yeah yeah yeah like the moon going yeah yeah what would you actually do though i don't know die yeah yeah it's it's so like beyond our comprehension have you watched those videos that's like it starts at like the smallest it Pluto yeah yeah and then it goes to the moon scale of it yeah it goes now that's what's so cool about like cosmic horror

yeah because like an element of it is real like we're so out of our element we just don't know yeah we're not meant to know history man and you go into like the if you do any

reading into like the quantum bullshit's going on and the the like deep physics yeah it's wild and it's so confusing that we we can't be designed to understand this you know mm-hmm that's why keep going back to alien but there's before like prometheus and all that shit had even come out yeah yeah that whole scene with the engineer in that incredible set That, like, just, like, see it into me. Like, and the fact that the movie, like, doesn't stop to answer anything.

And the characters in that scene are just as confused as you are. Yeah. And don't have answers. And it's just, like, left as a big question mark. And it's, like, not even what the movie's about. That's so fucking cool to me. That's, like, the scariest. Yeah.

That's exactly what Cosmic Horror should be to me. Yeah. Presenting this idea. I mean, that's... Like, we don't have answers for you. Like, that's incredible world building, because, like, you... Mm-hmm. You don't get given everything.

Like, you can go so far in the future from now, tens of thousands of years, and there will be, like, an equivalent horizon of just shit we don't understand. Mm-hmm. You know? And that's always scary. Yeah. And you have to keep that mystery intact in some form for it to stay scary. Mm-hmm. That's what every one of these franchises fucks up.

with yeah when it turns into big man fights big squid who's now in like every other meme like that meme like the sped up version of him drinking that black goo and then like dying there's so many different templates of that and it's like such a joke now um and now when you watch the original alien it's like that's all you're fucking thinking about it's like yeah yeah do you think he thought that about that thing no no he what the fuck was it was it just Geiger or whatever his fucking name is yeah must have been right just going off I'm gonna create the scariest shit ever yeah I'm just gonna disturb you is that his name what was his name Geiger

Geiger there's like a Geiger counter for radiation I don't think they're linked but yeah close enough we know no yeah so we need I guess that's the answer. We need someone with a mind as fucked up as geika, geika. I don't actually know what, how you say it, um, to just draw scary images until you find one that's, that's the one. I'm just gonna show that and never explain it. But there needs to be enough explained, you know? Like, like the nugget that is the alien, in alien.

But like there's nothing really explained outside of what is, intuited from our understanding of like parasites yeah that's all you really get and that's kind of what keeps it scary and cool yeah but it's like so this is a thing that was around that other thing which was in this big like half donut on this planet so like you're getting what was in the egg. The movie's fleshed out about just the egg. Yeah, you know, and then there's all the big stuff around it, which you have no idea about. That's, that to me is why it works. And also like the, when I saw the, the movie as a whole has issues, annihilation. The way that alien in the last scene is kind of like explored, where it's like something trying to communicate with a human and

it's like mimicking a human yeah and is it's just off is that's also uncanny and through the uncanny way it's like mimicking this human it's like it's it's like gutter really terrifying to me really that's yeah there's something existential about it yeah idea of like a thing that is like so beyond and it's making an attempt to like talk to you but like it can't like you're just such on you're on just on different levels of existence and there's be yeah yeah yeah and like the implications of just like it trying to talk to and everything that stems from that is like so frightening to me and the way that scene is put together with it being like kind of interpretive dance with that music and stuff i find that like spine chilling but that's also like a meme song now

as well yeah it is yeah I think that movie is really good Yeah, I do really like it I really like Garland a lot Because he did men as well Right? Mm-hmm Which equally, the ending of that movie Fuck me up

Yeah, I think the horror's really cool For that Yeah And ones that like grab me like that as well On that level, when it gets like existential I dig that Yeah. I don't find anything fully captures how scary, just like actual thought is. Actual thought.

Yeah, like, if you think stuff like to... If you overthink something. Not just overthinking something, you know, because like overthinking. like some normal activity it doesn't end with this giant terrifying thing but like the

I don't know just the the grandness of everything yeah I don't think there's anything scarier than just like their human experience That's why I'm keeping it in the realm of movies, just because it's what I know best. It's why I love like Ariaster, your hereditaries, your midsummer's. Yeah.

But most recently, the bomb, Bo's Afraid, which I love. It's one of my favorite depictions of anxiety in someone who's like just completely lost to it. And like that feeling, I feel like it depicts it so well. And makes it as like. chilling as it can be and like you're right there with the character like just as stressed as them just as on edge and like I think there's actually literally is I don't want to spoil anything but like one of my horrible things I said about yeah yeah of me kind of happens in some form in the movie and it's like right you're speaking to me Harry like you know what this shit feels

like yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know how we got to all the horror shit but it's fire like there's something just so it's I think it's a core part of living is like we're all

indulging in fear and we're all surviving and fear is a huge part of survival you know like you see a deer it it could spot you from a mile away and it will behave the same way like it will freak and run

you know you know you step on a twig it hears that a mile away it freaks and runs you know that is fear and every living thing like down to spiders which I'm

fucking terrified of like it's that same feeling it's so like base and universal to all life I fucking love it

and like we're drawn to the morbid kind of too yeah it's it's again it's it feels like survival like you you need to see what you need to be afraid it's like an empathy thing you're like living vicariously through like someone else is a horrible story it's i think it's why true crime is so popular too yeah it's like the worst of humanity and the fact it exists makes it scary but you're like listening to it from the comfort of like your sofa or whatever or your bed

yeah some of that shit they just yeah i don't really indulge i went through a phase of it um but i the the j c s stuff yeah for his a i you know whatever um c a i think there's some drama about his last upload like the narrator's ai now so i could be wrong and i haven't watched it um but yeah yeah yeah that show can keep you up in it Jesus, yeah That kind of went on a diet right there So I think we'll end that one here Do they

Do they deserve Jaffer Al's? What do you think? How do you feel? I could do it, but I'm more concerned with you I could do it What you think Okay Well Jim wants to do Jaffer Alas

So that's a little treat for you guys Um Thanks for watching this We'll see on the next one Bye it Buh, bough. Yeah.