JAR Media Posdact - monkeys Dancealotolopolis

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah. It's just me and you, baby. You and me. Me and you, you and me. Good afternoon, morning, evening or night, ladies and gentlemen. This is the... I'm gonna need your help with that in a moment. I guess I'll say the...
Starting point is 00:00:19 Brocast? No, it can't be called that. It's a new episode of JAR, whatever that means nowadays. Um... Only one voice today. Only me, your boy, Alex. It's a quiet one for me. Uh, so we didn't quite go as anticipated, which I'll get into shortly.
Starting point is 00:00:38 But first, let me throw that out there. Jarkast, that... That's only a thing when it's me, when it's Jim, and when it's James. That's the only, that's why on the board, to my immediate left, those listening can't see it, but there is text on there that says, JC, hashtag 371. 7-1. That's the last numbered Jowcast, I think we did as a trio, and it's remained that way. That number can only go up when the three of us are here.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Similarly, I feel like Brocast, which is when it's usually me and Jim, and me and Jim only. That got to what, 26, this would be 27, but it feels wrong to call this a Brocast if there's only one bro. So, what is this? I've done... I did a solo episode, it must be a few months ago now. and that was okay um when I first got the projector but I don't know man I feel like there needs to be different terminology for each one of these but please let me know your thoughts about that because yeah it feels wrong to call this
Starting point is 00:01:45 Broca's 27 or whatever it would be but I'm your host Alex joined by nobody for this beautiful episode but before we get too deep into the show let me shout out those Jail Media patrons patrons over the Patreon? I don't even know what to say anymore. The wrong thing is the right thing. The wrong thing's the right thing. Wrong right, wrong right. What am I talking about? Well, over on the Patreon, there are a bunch of different perks.
Starting point is 00:02:12 The first or second week of each month we read out those wacky, those crazy patron names. I won't do it this week because Jim isn't here and I feel like this is more value more of a mix-up when he's here too. So we'll do that in the next episode. So make sure you get those crazy patron names. in but that's not all you make the audio version of the show possible and get the ad free mp3 put upon the patron but that's not all god there is so much over there the uh jafter hours recurring show on patreon there's a little bit of debate about the name i know it's called jafter hours and we record it before so it should be pre jaff three hours i don't know the pregame the
Starting point is 00:02:57 warm up the 15 or so minutes of warm up before we record an episode we chuck those up on patreon that's just a little perk a little extra um we'd be doing that warming up anyway might as well let you in and hear the craziness as it is um any other things to throw out there the important man stickers as well are up there you got the merch over on the store unfiltered mp3 to patreon i think that's it i think that's it um because we got a few things to talk about this episode but a few subjects of interest. A few, uh, I was gonna say relaxed, but it's almost the opposite of relaxed in some of these. I, uh, I was planning to record this with Jim yesterday, but, um, I got back from Portugal two days ago.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And I don't know, an illness just hit me. I was so tired. I was doing like 20,000 steps a day for five days. I just didn't have it in me. My voice was gone. my throat was hurting my eyes running I feel touched wood okay right now I don't really sound very coldy but I slept a long time and Jim was busy today so we couldn't sneak him in it was all a bit like things had to go a certain way for it
Starting point is 00:04:17 to work out and I don't know you can't really predict for when illness is hit or whatever I feel I don't know I feel like Put a pin in that. I feel awkward, like where I'm directing my body language right now, because it's only me. I don't, I also feels awkward to direct the camera too. That also feels weird and uncomfortable. Maybe I should, for me, the, uh, the comment barrel is over on the other side of the room with Sandy and an orangutan and an upside down, Dobby, staring back at me.
Starting point is 00:04:45 So perhaps I will, in order to keep this natural and relax for me, I will address, well, I've got a choice. One second, it might be Dobby, one second it might be Sandy, one second, it might be the ring a turn, but at least I feel less like a psycho, um, talking to myself in this room for now. Now, what did I put the pin in that I have to take out now? Can't even remember. My mind is so scatterbrained. I can't even do that. My brain doesn't work that way. Um, but yeah, I've been now I spent some time in Portugal. Don't worry. That's not what this episode is going to be about. I'm not going to talk about my Portugal antics outside of one thing. One thing I'd quite like to mention because I, again, would quite like Jarlings help just for filling me in on something that I,
Starting point is 00:05:26 I kept seeing, spent some time in the city of Porto and the city of Lisbon, just a few days each. But I think it was mostly in Lisbon. I kept seeing this graffiti everywhere that was clearly parodying or using the IMDB, the Internet Movie Database logo, but plastering it over various walls and landmarks. But it said IMDP, I think. and I was just wondering is there some story behind that does anybody know any context to this
Starting point is 00:06:00 or is it literally does database is that just a different word in Portuguese so it would be our MDP or is there because there's a lot of like political graffiti all over the place and some of it I understood a lot went over my head and I was just wondering about that
Starting point is 00:06:13 I got a few pictures I can chuck in please if you're Portuguese or whatever let me know I'm sure there's at least one of you out there I saw a car crash as well, found out that Portugal is one of the most dangerous, some of the most dangerous roads in all of Europe, supposedly, as far as deaths per a million people, I think was the stat I saw of all of Europe and it was up there. Although from my anecdotal experience, I found Italy, Naples specifically and Greece, Athens, to be a lot scarier than what I saw of Portugal, but I wouldn't know. broadly um probably get too deep then again again let me do some housekeeping where we round out some of those conversations from the previous episode some of the craziness some of the stuff that yeah pins were put in and need to be taken out like what the gayest jar fan
Starting point is 00:07:06 said about last episode as the certified gayest fan of the cast i have to say i was click baited by the title the is it woke section was hilarious so you guys get a pass this time p.s nice curtains why thank you Um, that was, uh, I think it might be one of the best title thumbnail combos ever, you know, if I'm being modest right now. There were two options too. The previous episode was called for those unaware possible homosexual interactions, referencing the, the group on Steam that is assesses games based on this, uh, I don't know, criteria of anti-wokeness, um, you can listen to of that if you're interested, but I was torn between possible homosexual interactions and improbable female authority figure.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Um, but I thought just the snappiness of that first one was the stronger option, but I really thought YouTube was going to have more of a problem with it, or, uh, forced me to change it, but... Let's go. I got to use it. I'm tempted to even call this one improbable female authority figure, even though it won't make sense, or is, uh, I don't think it's going to be relevant to any topic we talk about today, but But uh, hell yeah, good title over there and I'm glad you guys enjoyed it too. Elvrilge said, talk about plants versus zombies next week. Why?
Starting point is 00:08:33 Um, I mean, I will right now. It's been on my mind, strangely, this cute, quaint little game, the original one I had a bunch of nostalgia for. I love that game on my, what was it, the iPod Touch. I was always playing that, Plants versus Zombies, that music, the simplicity. of the game, the... The character designs are so lovable. And they ruined it with the second one. Can you just let me buy the game?
Starting point is 00:08:59 You know? Like the first one is just... They shoved all these microtransactions in. Ugh. Just the exact type of mobile game design you want to avoid is how they ruin Plets versus Zombies 2. And then they turned it into like a big 3D shooter thing. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Keep it simple, I say. Let's go back to basics. I like parts versus zombies. There's nothing wrong with that, but Ali A Motor Med does have something wrong. To report with a time code here about the last episode 3836. What's wrong with the audio? There's like a constant hissing through out and around this part. And yeah, apologies for that.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I was in a bit of a rough for this last episode. episode I had to as I was saying and get all my ducks in a row for going away for a few days I noticed that when editing it and was like starting to panic oh no it's just ruined the audio for this entire episode um we always do like audio checks we're normally looking for that kind of interference and I honestly have no idea what caused it for about 20 30 minutes and like an hour and a half episode there is this kind of slight hissing in that in that woke game detector squad segment um which is is infuriating because I don't know why it calls it and I'm scared it's going to happen again. Let me just touch wood again. Superstitious today. That would be a bummer if it happened again but that hasn't been a recurring thing and it did stop after that luckily. So hopefully that is an ongoing issue. There have been a couple of audio problems these past few months with moving the set and whatnot but hopefully
Starting point is 00:10:42 we are good. Um, Badge Jcast says, from a few episodes ago, Alex mentioned Last Man. And it's kind of neat because it's kind of getting some international appreciation because the animation studio headed by the comic creator has been involved in a bunch of stuff that is more well known now. Bobby Pills is their name, and they did trailers for My Adventures with Superman, and that Invincible Season 2 preview with Alan and Mark at the diner. Yeah, that's the one I talked about having much better animation than the actual show at some. They also made Captain Laserhawk a show that shouldn't have worked, being a
Starting point is 00:11:18 cyberpunk mishmash of Ubisoft properties, but that shit was pretty hype. It's nice to see, because I've been a fan of them for around six years now, one of my friends works there. But the funniest part to me is how they managed to get animation with Skybound, Invincible, and the like, when all of their material from before, this is extremely sexual. The last man creator mostly got his start animating NSFW stuff on a Patreon, And then the studio's most well-known project before this, current renaissance, was the Sex Education cartoon, P-Poodoo, and the Super Fuck Friends, which honestly kind of slaps. So basically, gooning is the path to animation success these days, just like always.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah, people will pay for the crazy niche drawn up, that's for sure. um and last time i mentioned last man i'd only watch maybe a third of it i've finished season one now and yeah there is this this one episode in particular that was like whoa this is the hentai episode huh this is crazy this is part of it um i'd still recommend it but bear in mind yeah it's french they are program a little bit different over there i guess um or maybe they're just more honest about the sexuality I don't know um but that's interesting bobby pills let's go there's a few people have been shouting out some other kind of niche animated projects like that which I might check out because I don't know last man and Mars Express they really connected me in a way that
Starting point is 00:13:02 a lot of stuff hasn't lately so if you can find it check that out. Um, oh yeah, we're talking a little bit about this idea of isolating genes and creating monstrous animal combinations, um, or not even combinations, it's just monstrous creations, genetic abominations and, uh, Lombrin 5982 said this. On the topic of gene therapy a few years ago, there was a study where a group of scientists isolated the gene that makes snakes be born without legs and put it into a mouse embryo, creating a limit. seamless, serpentized mouse. My question is, what animal would you serpentize if you had the ability? Yogi bear bear. Ooh, that's scary. Um, I, my mind flashes obviously to the greater apes. I want to see a gorilla,
Starting point is 00:13:54 snake, a chimp snake, a bonobo, serpent, sorry. A serpentized, serpentized gorilla, serpentized orangutan. Squirrel Ooh, yeah Because stuff like that would still be extremely capable I feel like they would adapt Like even this mouse I feel like would They're quick
Starting point is 00:14:18 Even if they're not of legs I feel like they'd figure out a way to I'm getting over there to that trap I'm getting to that peanut butter And I'm gonna get Ooh I'm gonna wriggle right over there What about humans? Serpentize humans
Starting point is 00:14:30 Or if you serpentize An already serpent What happens then? Someone go off the chart What? Huh? We have slow worms in the UK, they're called, and they're... I don't think they're actually a snake, I think they're a type of lizard that basically is serpentized, and if you pick one up, you can see their little bumps.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Um... I don't know where... I don't think they had legs, I can't remember the life cycle of a slow worm, but... They look like snakes, but they're actually lizards who have been serpentized. And now you know that, unless you already knew that. In which case... I'm sorry. I'm sorry One perk I did manage
Starting point is 00:15:11 to forget listening and the patron list of thingies right there was the patron group chat which is an ongoing group chat over on the Patreon which allows you to have an ongoing conversation with other jarlings and suggest certain ideas or topics for me to talk about
Starting point is 00:15:29 and usually my bro every week and Danny G. suck my gaud is the only one I plucked for this one but uh is there a reason you find yourself falling ill so much if so how can i avoid it um i thought i've been doing pretty well this year i know that that has been an ongoing thing with me years past but yeah and the dude they got covered three times i'm like ill every month buta buta butta but i don't think i'd had a common cold this year i could be wrong um because there's like literally an audio recording of me every week so someone can immediately
Starting point is 00:16:06 prove me wrong or point out me being hypocritical at some point or whatever but how can you avoid it get vitamin D in your system eat lots of garlic, boost that immune system, just anything to do with your immune system
Starting point is 00:16:23 what else is good for that you know? Get your boost your chemicals with a bit of exercise and a bit of sun and then a bits of healthy foods full of acid or whatever the fuck I don't know um so I hope
Starting point is 00:16:36 Danny G, you're staying healthy and not lying on the ground. X-D. Hell yeah. So the main topic I have for this episode is it's kind of related to some of the stuff I've been watching or talking about lately. The big movie, as of late, is not Joker 2. I haven't seen that yet.
Starting point is 00:17:06 something I was actually planning to have seen yesterday so I could have talked about it on this cast but whatever I was ill blah blah it's all thrown off it's all messed up but I'll tell you what's messed up that's megalopolis Francis Ford Coppola's decades in the making passion project we know we're talking we're talking sucker punch to Zach Snyder kind of love I've had this idea since I was 15 I've wanted to make this mega movie megalopolis you know this is going to be as important to cinema as metropolis you know well this is going to be the bigger one guys we're we're pushing the medium we are getting meta we're breaking out the fourth wall and we're going to be doing you think the godfather was impressive you think
Starting point is 00:17:52 apocalypse now was impressive you wait till you see megaloccolosopolis um and i did see it I rushed out to see it to do an emergency, Sardonicast, and that review should be going up shortly over there. I hated it. I haven't earnestly found a film so miserable, such an unenjoyable experience to quite this degree in a while. To an unreasonable level of discomfort of anger. of just like disappointment even though I don't know it didn't look great but I thought we got humor on the menu here guys like it's called megalopolis this poster looks fake it looks like Minecraft just get over it combined with what is happening here and the whole thing seems
Starting point is 00:18:52 to be sold on this idea of the craziness of megalopolis isn't it crazy that this exists oh this is the craziest movie I've seen ever wow he's really done it he's spent a over a hundred million dollars of his own money to make this craziness, this boundary-pushing, annoying thing that's supposed to suck and supposed to be annoying, and if you don't like it, then you don't understand art, do you? Um, and I bring this up not only because the movie's kind of fun to talk about, it's more fun to talk about than watch. That's for damn sure. But I put up, like, occasionally on letterboxed over there, my account I.E. put a sentence or two of whatever's going through my mind as a quote unquote review it's more of like a thought
Starting point is 00:19:40 I wouldn't even call it like a review even um to which I said let me find it got a switch devices here right so on my letterboxed this was 27th of September 2024 half star review from me What is happening? Question mark. Why should I care about any of it? Question mark. Just a, you know, a snide little letterbox review. That's the only value they really have to me. But where this got interesting to me was I saw this comment in the suggestion thread from Argyle number two over on the subreddit. Alex, why are the comments on your Megalopolis review hating on you so bad? I never look at Letterbox comments
Starting point is 00:20:33 Why would you? Why would anyone? They're like notoriously bad on there But that did piqued my interest, it did So I thought I'd go over to these comments and have a little look And go through some of them together See what people are saying I had a brief little look And some of them are a little bit nuts
Starting point is 00:20:56 Because at first I don't know, it's from the last few days, days they seem to have ramped up as far as like craziness as a vitriol against me i suppose um yeah so there's people like clearly joking shake my head you just don't understand the true genius from the twisted mind behind jack that's the kind of thing i'd expect right because he didn't stop making movies like jack is a movie there's maybe i'd understand it more if like after apocalypse now you just didn't release a movie or something like there'd been nothing and then this was his comeback like i've been working on this forever then maybe i'd understand it um yeah uh if it's a good
Starting point is 00:21:43 movie and if you think otherwise then you're stupid i think that's a joke as well i there's a point where they go from obvious joke to oh and yeah comments like ooh this is interesting uh thank you joking about the movie and that's it's all like the marketing for the film basically it's just people talking about how crazy it is or like oh it's interesting it's got this this strong of a reaction out of somebody um yeah the ratings code for this is crazy
Starting point is 00:22:17 no no no have some compassion why should it have to make sense okay here we go um that critique i guess why what is happening why should i care about any of it i don't think it necessarily has to make sense um there are plenty of movies i love that don't are non-literal or don't make sense in that kind of way but they'll normally have something some hook something that carries them in a way that's like i get what you're going for this is weird and hard to follow but i like this tone that you're presenting i like these weird characters that are coming in and out i'm thinking like a
Starting point is 00:22:56 Mulholland Drive and a race ahead, um, I wrote a bunch like down weird films like Naked Lunch where it's like what is happening, but this is intriguing, this, this world that you're showing me is inventive, creative, what it's saying is interesting, or even failures like cloud Atlas comes to mind. Not a film I like, but easily as ambitious as something like Megalopolis that doesn't come together and doesn't work, but still more likable. and more I don't know you can see that spark
Starting point is 00:23:30 in there of like oh you're really like trying something in there and it's like it's not really come together but it's kind of respectful um respect double
Starting point is 00:23:40 sorry that it's this exists where I just really don't feel that about megalopolis but yeah it's not the fact that it has to make sense it's just like what part of this
Starting point is 00:23:54 you're trying to entertain me with or make an artistic statement with if the artistic statement is I'm trying to annoy you isn't that annoying and bad and isn't that great even though I didn't read the film that way it felt more like it was trying to do a like a satire type thing trying to be funny quirky poor things over the top satirical maybe like a being John Malkovich kind of craziness but these, I like the tone and the abstract nature of those kind of films, but I need something, you know? You're like, you're not, eraserhead doesn't make sense, quote unquote, but you have something.
Starting point is 00:24:41 You're like guided by the filmmaker, and even though it's confusing and plenty of it is going over your head, there is something compelling about it, there's something entertaining about it. And that's just really, that's the complete opposite experience. megalopolis to me um um just watched it and couldn't agree more oh hell yeah so excited about this train wreck i love train wreck movies i really do and i was really expecting more of an entertaining one but it's the worst thing a train wreck movie can be which is boring just a drain um yeah absolute cinema i can't wait to watch it another banger from coppola you can say that about any movie ever made. Why should I care? Do you care about what's happening outside of your window?
Starting point is 00:25:31 Um, weird argument. I actually do care about what's happening outside of my window as well, so I don't really know what you're trying to say with that. But why should I care? Well, you mean when I've paid money to see a piece of entertainment and there's not a single element of it holistically, there's no single element of it that is making me care about it. Every single film that I care about, or that is good, I care about it. It's even the best way I put in this. I just find this such a strange argument. I think I should care. Like, there's, I get what people are saying where like an artist obsessing over what an audience wants or expects. There is something kind of anti-art about that in a way. And it's more like a
Starting point is 00:26:21 manufactured product when it has been focused, tested down to just something unrecognizable to a vision. But this is almost the complete inverse of that, where it's like, the only audience is the person who made it, and that's fine for them. It's their artistic expression, but do you want this to be, do you want, did you want to make any of that $100 million back, or is this surely your artistic statement, and that's all it's for um but i would consider that you know if we are looking through an artistic lens only the visceral um anti negative reaction i had to it surely should be expected from him or even wanted um
Starting point is 00:27:09 i don't know but i think you should care i think like every movie good or bad that i've wound up caring about in some way is because of some quality aspect of it or i guess lack of quality um but i also don't i don't think that is a state maybe if this was a statement i made about every film i watched or something but even then i feel like this review attached to i don't know 2001 or something like that i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i can't see it I guess I just really don't I don't struggle when people say I guess it's just not that deep like it's a letterbox two-sentence thing I guess if you want to hear a more in-depth opinion I guess this is a sardonicast discussion as why in general I prefer long-form discussions about movies we can kind of pick up what people are trying to say instead of like you know it's the Twitter meme of like you say you hate You say you like cookies and then the replies, why have you got that problem with brownies or whatever. Yeah, I just don't find that to be a very, very good, compelling point.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Why should I care? Maybe because it's awesome. I wouldn't know for sure, though. Haven't seen it yet. There are a few of those. And it's hard to tell who is being genuine, who is being just contrarian for the sake of it. because of the stasis it already has in that Southlandtales kind of way. I wish it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:28:53 It's really the kind of thing I should be all about. A truly religious experience. It's that bad? Yeah, oh and there's someone coming in. I think what he's getting at is the movie doesn't give you a reason to care, which should be good. which should be through good impactful writing of the story and characters and yeah that's kind of what I indulge in more on the sardonicust review is how I just just give me something just one pillar to attach myself to like other things can be mixed about it or inconsistent about it I just need some reason to care something you know um Um, oh yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Biggest pseudo movie is... Wait, I can't read this. Biggest pseudo movie is a stupid-ass review like this and a half-star rating. I didn't get it. Bad. I feel like that's such a... It's as bad faith as you think I'm being towards the movie, even though I have seen the movie. And that's how I genuinely feel about it.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And yeah, there probably are elements I didn't get about it. But I can usually tell when it's like, this is going over my head because this is something I'm not jelling with. I'm not picking up on some, like, reference to this Renaissance painting or this time period or this country I'm not familiar with or this cultural thing. I don't understand. It wasn't that feeling. It was more like actually the inverse of that, where I'm looking at these shots, these characters, these themes that are obvious and blatant and kind of the opposite of subtle or deep, and trying to almost do the work of the filmmaker and connecting them in my head being like, oh, is that what he's trying to get out with this? What is this saying? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I don't think it was really saying much by the end of it. And I feel like a lot of the filmmakers that aren't Coppola, the people. on set the actors. If they had to like describe like what happened in this movie or the complexities of their character, they might be able to act their way through it, but I don't know if I'd believe a word they say. Um, and it's like no one is going out to bat for this movie. As of recording this, it's been out for what, like a couple weekends now. I don't think it's even past 10 million bucks. Um, when I made the prediction in the Sardonic Because review, I think it might, it might be stuck to single, single digit millions as far as
Starting point is 00:31:52 audience for this. There is none. Like the word of mouth, the only interesting thing about it is people like me, freaks like me going out and saying how bad it is, and then it's like filtered down through that even. It's like, okay, I guess I'll go see this weird, bad sounding thing and that's not to say you can't like it or that I don't believe you, if, you did like love it or enjoy it on some level and there is I don't know there's there's someone out there that enjoys elements of any any movie you know you could there's always someone you can find some freak you can find but like yeah getting worked up over this letterbox review is quite funny to me why should I care about this review or anything your channel does
Starting point is 00:32:39 what art have you given to the world I feel like that's a little bit of a fallacy too where it's like also only only the people who are the best at making things in the world are able to critique other things otherwise it's worthless it doesn't apply for if you're in a restaurant and have a good such bad meal not chef does that mean I can't talk about the quality of the meal or whatever it's like if you're a good or like a paying customer for what at the end of the day is some form of product that is being shared and organized through paying a resource like okay like I can have an opinion on that
Starting point is 00:33:26 and the discussion around film is one of the great important things about it and I know people hate critics and opinions or whatever but I just find it funny how inconsistent it is where it's like the the critics they've got it right and it's amazing when it lines up with they're rotten tomatoes, but if it's just one number's off or it's just a little bit off base with what broader audiences think, then it's worthless, and it's very picky or juicy when it's like, oh, the buzz for this movie is absolutely on fire, and I think it's going to be wonderful. The critics are loving it. And then it's like, yeah, some shit like this. The critics don't know what they're bloody talking about. They're just so pompous and
Starting point is 00:34:09 up their own bottoms. And so, yeah, a lot of them are. But also a lot of people that criticize critics are dumb and annoying as well like like what do you want do you want do want people to not talk about it do it my whole thing is like you got a voice use it like if my opinions piss you off you don't have to engage with it it's fine but like it's not going to stop me from sharing it whether you like it or not um why should I care about this because you bought a ticket to see it why should I care about this quoting my review, because you bought a ticket to see it. What? Um, I buy a lot of tickets to things I don't care about seeing. Um, I bought tickets to the Meg too.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Does that mean I should care about the Meg too? I actually went into this with a way more of an open mind than I should have. I like, I wanted to love it. Like it's, it's, The way Southland Tales sits in my mind, if I could have another Southland Tales in earnest? I would love that. But I'm not going to lie to you guys, I'm not. How would you answer the question of caring in other movies? Um, it's kind of what I was trying to get at is that every movie I do care about is because they gave me a reason to care, abstract or not. Because I feel like, oh, that's a really interesting bit.
Starting point is 00:35:43 of dialogue or a story hook or color palette or a set decoration or there's so many different things that can be appealing about a movie or be a single reason to get you into something um so many of my favorite like movies or worlds are that way where it's like something that like a blade run or whatever where it's the sound of it, the aesthetic of it, the look of it gets you in and you fall in love with everything else around it. There's no, there's no single element of Megalopolis that's like holding its hand out to you say like, come with me on this journey. Let's, let's do this. It's actually doing the opposite. It's putting both of its hands up. Like, no, you stay, you stay far away from me. And not in like a cold, like, fincher way where it feels like,
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah, this is a statement on the Perverted nature of the audience and we want this coldness as part of the identity of the movie It doesn't have an identity Um I'm really going on on this but I'm gonna enjoy myself so I'm gonna keep going Um Yeah, you should care because you bought a ticket to see it and Crazy thing to say
Starting point is 00:37:00 I care about every movie I watch paid or otherwise Because I care enough to engage with it rather than write it off it off um no I was just saying I had an open mind I I dislike it because I actually did engage with it um both you and YMS have really exposed yourselves as normies with this one um weird word to use in relation to this movie anyway like what quote unquote normie is going to see Megalopoulos unless it's by accident. The screening I went to, it was the first show on the day the film came out in the UK. There were more people in there than I was expecting, actually. But one did leave and most of them
Starting point is 00:37:50 were bored out of their goddamn minds. And not that I was speaking to them, but I could tell. Like the body language, they were huffing, they were puffing, getting up constantly to go to the bathroom. I feel like some of these people, like they haven't even seen the movie. It's just like a, a, uh, just a train jumping on. Also, the story wasn't that hard to follow. Um, I mean, it was. Anyone who's seen it knows that it's a complete mess, plot-wise, structure-wise, like, there's just no cohesion to it. Um, and the fact it is from, um, and the fact it is from, Coppola as well as like if he if he didn't direct it and this was just released into the wild some unknown director you never heard of no one would care about this no one would talk about this
Starting point is 00:38:49 it would be like yeah 65 or whatever like um I Hs just pissed because John Voigt's performance is funnier than anything he'll ever create okay a random thing to pull and contrast against um that scene is the only like i'm not gonna say what it is for this isn't a spoiler thing about megalopolis we're talking more about the conversation about the movie than the actual movie itself almost here but um yes i'm pissed because john void is funnier than me and because i'll never make anything as funny as him don't see him making uh poo dash we that far but opinion's opinion um what god and then it just turns into arguments about adam what what does that have to do with me um people like they're really really get weird
Starting point is 00:39:55 online about like movies where it's just so low stakes to me like i've only i've only read like a review like this and been annoyed by it when it's so like clearly bad faith or just to get like attention in a way that's so obvious like that guy he's kind of blowing up on YouTube right now he's just another anti-sjW type gamer channel where it's like why is everything gay now everything's gay and um it's so obvious and it's like you don't even you don't even deserve attention but when it's like an earnest review and it's like someone saying their opinions and it's they're not being assholes to other people like what does it matter why you're getting so upset um see if there are any
Starting point is 00:40:39 a couple others here before we go into some questions from the community yes it's that bad you wait the whole movie for a decent ending which never comes and it's all just pointless and just shit overall i guess yeah maybe post structuralism is too difficult for youtube movie buffs that's Bro You can't do that But then that come like I've gone on their account. They their review of the movies. I like that we all We all have collectively agreed this is the next Southland Tales. Maybe they like Southland Tales But also it's like
Starting point is 00:41:24 How do you pass this? That is a theme of the movie, I suppose, but my issue with it is a issue with it is a how it's explored, communicated to the audience, um, how I'm supposed to feel about that, questions I'm supposed to ask about that. None of it, I feel like I'm guided in the right direction of. So maybe you're right. Exactly. Film School 101. I mean, just so go back to the club. IHE hates, therefore it's a must see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Good indication that this is a great movie. Brain Dead review. Is it really that bad? How was Adam Driver in it? Bad. Because it's great. This guy's comment section is so bizarre. Have you guys never heard of an opinion before? The world will be better without you and your obnoxious friends.
Starting point is 00:42:31 you're a bad person bro please hike a local mountain and get some fresh air I feel like Alex has become more vitriolic after collaborating with YMS for so long it's just turned into a hate thread about Adam this is crazy that bad huh you have no soul shit's probably baller I should go see it I mean if you see my review and you hate me so much that it convinces you to
Starting point is 00:43:01 go see a megalopolis? The joke's on you man. Yeah, I don't know if there's any really more to pull out here, I just find this. God, some of these. Do you watch any movie before or how would you answer the question of caring in other movies? I feel like it's quite easy to intuit, isn't it? Like with the context of the film I'm talking about and if you've seen it, as most people agree, who have seen it, how, like, difficult to follow it is and strange, and... That's the problem, is people hear that, and what they hear is that difficult to follow and strange is a critique for all movies. When it's like, no, specifically in this movie, that is a problem. I love difficult to follow, difficult movies, strange obtuse movies, I'd listed some earlier.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I, yeah, like, I watched, like, Barton Fink recently. that's like strange non-literal gets kind of more abstract towards the end mad god which has no no dialogue even on saldonikas we recently talked about cayoni scotsi which is i mean it doesn't really get as abstract as that um there's no plot at all um with everything going being inferred through editing and the the implication of the string of visuals um there's so many examples of stuff like that under the silver lake is a controversial one that that a lot of people would probably categorize like a megalopolis as far as big paranoid ideas, like this epic setting and trying to make this big statement and not coming together,
Starting point is 00:44:41 but that's one I would say actually does work quite well. Get a life, you tasteless, whiny piece of shit. But then you go on their account and like their review of Megalopoulos is, So, is this Coppola's Rebel Moon or the happening? Are they even, is it even real? I just, I feel nothing when I read these, outside of like some kind of humour, because it's so... Yeah. Move over, old man, the future is now.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Why should you care about anything in any film? I should care because I love movies, and I love a variety of movies, and I love Coppola's old work, and I feel like there should be something I, of all people, should be able to find to appreciate in the movie. And if I'm struggling to this degree, I feel like it's quite self-explanatory and quite obvious, actually, why one should or shouldn't care about something they've been presented to in a movie. Isn't that the point? Like, the point of art is to elicit a response from somebody. And like, even though I'm saying it's a failure, and I'm getting like a motive about it and all this. You could say, I'm getting lost, I'm getting lost, I'm getting confused. Yeah, oh, they just got back from seeing it this ain't it. chief, both you and YMS have really exposed yourselves as normies with this one sad.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Also, the story wasn't that hard to follow. Like, come on, dude, I know you're smarter than this. Did you pay attention during the film? Um, I said in the Sardonicast Review, like, is this, do you think this is going to become one of those Southland Tales type movies where it gets like this cult fan base and people lose their minds or a small group of vocal people go nuts over it? And I think that's definitely what's happening here and what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:47:02 The longer it goes on, the more handfuls of people go and check it out. Because I remember some people saying a similar thing when we did years ago, the Saldoncast episode on, Southland Tales. And there were people in the comments, so you just don't get it, you don't see the... I just can't understand that. you don't get it thing. Sometimes it can be true. Like if you genuinely haven't, like, researched anything about the movie or are missing, like, an important piece of context or something like that, I put my hands up and say sometimes that is possible. Maybe I did miss
Starting point is 00:47:43 it or didn't get it. There have definitely been times, especially something I watched when I was maybe 17 or 18 that I really didn't like and then revisited as an adult or whatever with a developed brain and been like, oh, that's what that was going for. Yeah, that did go with my eggs. I was too dumb for it. That is definitely a phenomenon. This ain't it, though. Not for Megalopolis. I'm serious. Yeah, I think those are some of the more egregious ones there.
Starting point is 00:48:17 But yeah, Megalopolis bad. Don't go and see it, I guess, is my ultimate point. Like, even if you're curious, just wait. just wait no one's gonna be talking about or thinking about this film in mea weeks let alone months and years um it's kind of it encapsulates everything i feel like i don't know people bring up tarentino and his 10 film thing and it's like wants to stop making them i think it's this is his exact fear of like what he wants to avoid becoming is megalopolis coppola um And yeah, let's see after these messages, I guess.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Um, hello, this is me, Argi. You do realize that there are Bebo shirts available, right? Take a look at the really cute shirts. Look in the description or under the video for more. Okay, welcome to the second half of the... whatever this is where we answer questions from the JAR media community
Starting point is 00:49:30 Head over to the suggestion thread over on the subreddit We can leave any goddamn question you'd like For future episodes, just like Mr. OK Smugma did Fazbe
Starting point is 00:49:46 Ha ha ha ha ha ha Media fanaffers Time for a fnapper question Just kidding Are facehuggers Dibbies? That's a good question. I was thinking about this recently, so those you don't know. The Dibby is a, uh, think Wally, think the minions, indisputable me.
Starting point is 00:50:08 A cute creation usually designed to sell merch. Weirdly, the, the facehugger is in that weird space where it kind, I'm weirdly leaning towards it, actually. I've seen, I have a plushy of like a face hugger somewhere. And I feel like you're not getting plushies of things that aren't dibbys. Right? That's a plushy as something you can get that ain't a dibby. I feel like it's almost default dibby by being plushified.
Starting point is 00:50:40 What do you plushify that isn't dibby? Even the little chestburster in ways is a little dibby. A little smile he does, the tap dance he does. And that's diby-ish behaviour with the little squeal? Hmm, maybe that is it, you know, spider dibby. The egg ain't really dibby, spider dibby comes out of egg. Egg. This is a special dibby because it's so kind of violent, sexually violent, but also a dibby.
Starting point is 00:51:17 That's a new one. And then it births a new dibby with its next biological stage. I don't like what we've found here, but I think, unless there's something wrong with my thought process here that I feel like both a facehugger and a chest buster can be interpreted as dibbies. Let me know if that's crazy, but I'm actually... I think a chestburster might be slightly more dibbyes. ever so because there's like spidery nature but of a face hugger but then you're
Starting point is 00:52:00 opening doors that I kind of want to close because I'm feeling uncomfortable um Lachyon says hello jar I've just seen the Robbie Williams monkey movie trailer immediately made me think of jar if any of you could be played by a CGI creature other than human in a biopic what animal would you choose and what narrative purpose, could it serve, love the cast, thanks lads. I did see the trailer for this. Americans were making fun of it, saying, who's Robbie Williams? I don't know who that is, so I'm not going to watch it.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yeah, you are. If it was a normal biopic, where the main character wasn't randomly a CG monkey for some reason, chimp man, everyone's seeing this movie. Every, every lady of a certain age, Every mom, 40 years and up, is going to see this goddamn movie, it's going to make so much money. And then everyone else outside of that demographic, they're going to see it because there's a CG monkey as the main character.
Starting point is 00:52:59 You thought, I hate biopics. There are some good ones, but for the most part, biopics I want to avoid. For the second I saw this, I'm like, you know, I'm there, Robbie. As soon, a second Hollywood figured out, that's what CG is for. CG apes, for adverts, for movies, that's it, it's done. We're out of the creepy period of like, all these CG humans and animals, they don't look right in the early 2000s. The Second, the Planet of the Apes movies went CG, the second they nailed it, it was over. It was over.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You know, Dingle versus Kong, Kong Skull Island? Apes have always been a part of cinema. Be it stop motion dressing up. But we've found the future. People, it's the one thing people will always go out and see is CG Apes. I'm gonna see it. I am gonna see this movie. I love chimps. I love Robbie Williams.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I mean, as someone who was born in 1994, Born in 1994, I do kind of love Robbie Williams, some of his songs defined, especially 1999 for me. He's a British icon. Hello, Robbie. Weird, weird idea for a movie, so bombastic and insane. It's probably going to suck, but it'll probably be more intending than megalopolis, so
Starting point is 00:54:43 give you that. Um, but as far as a biopic where it could just be like a random animal, what would be like the most distracting thing, like a, like a, like a sized up insect of some kind, you know, like think, think the fly, but in a, in a non-horror context, where it's like some, a grotesque, even like an ant sized up, like wearing, wearing a backpack and going to school and like, Hey, don't bully me, man. That would still be something. So, I don't know, maybe a bug. Like a wasp. It's, yeah, it's my, it's a biopic about my life, but I'm a WASP, you know? I'll sting ya. I wouldn't even die because I'm not abyss of my whole tummy ain't gonna come out with it. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah, you hear me. And if that was too scary, Robbie's, he's kind of stolen the thunder because it would, my option, would be orangutan i would say to do like an orangutan standing everyone would want to see that driving buggies around oh well with AI i can generate that movie in not too long um there are actually multiple questions about this uh c t patterson says question for alex if they were going to make a biopic about you would you rather they make you a lego like feral or a cgai monkey like robbie williams kind of touched on this a little bit um and i am very curious what this feral lego film is all about um just too good actually invited me to the premiere but i was
Starting point is 00:56:33 couldn't make it because of being in portugal but um i don't know how to feel about it. With that one, it's more the combination of like, why Pharrell? Like, who's linked to Lego is what I don't understand, but maybe someone who was actually relevant to Lego would make a bit more sense. Um, but you can't beat CGI monkey, you can't. A CGI Lego Monkey? Combiner? I guess, like, yeah, they've got to get creative and wacky with what to do with the CG to make audiences interested. Lego Pharrell documentary. It's just such a weird combo that I'm. Po the Panda is very epic. Great name. Says this.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Since you guys have managed to get past the difficult hurdle of passing the UK car theory test. What advice do you have to those who are struggling to pass these tests and what categories do you recommend focusing on most? I've done a few theory tests myself and have failed each time. Roughly by say four or five marks and I'm kindly asking for. advice and help bear bear took me i think it was my third attempt of the theory test that i passed it the first one i didn't do any revision at all um and missed it by one mark not even knowing that the whole like you got to watch like a video and click the mouse when a danger's coming i didn't even know that was part of the test the first time i did it and passed that part just by
Starting point is 00:58:01 flagging it um but the only thing that really worked for me was the the app there's like an official app which just mimics the test questions and you basically just have it to memorize like the the questions aren't hard is just the knowing the phrasing of it and the random pull they're going to
Starting point is 00:58:21 quiz you on this type of really specific vehicle you're never going to see has this color light it's just like stuff like that that you're never going to just guess and it's just a case of like really boringly like well I guess once a day I'm just going to do one of these
Starting point is 00:58:38 tests until I'm just passing it consistently. Um, and as far as like what to focus on most, you got to, you got to figure that one out because, uh, tbh. Everyone's going to be good and bad at different parts. There are people that really struggle with the whole video clicky section that I didn't struggle on, but pass the multiple choice one every time. So that's really down to what you struggle with. So let me check the timer here, see how long I've been going roughly. Because I'm starting to feel winding down on this one. So here's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I'm going to do... I'm going to do one more question here. Then I'm going to pivot into doing maybe about 10 minns of questions. I didn't get to go after hours. Normally you record it beforehand, but I'm going to do this one after. It's just me. Like an experiment. But let's end on this one from back.
Starting point is 00:59:37 But let's end on this one from Bad Boys. Alex. It does say Jim, but I took him out because he's not here. And you didn't need to know that, but now you do. You briefly mentioned Ghosts of Tsushima slash Ghosts of Yotei, was it Yotai, in this week's episode. And upon hearing the name, my personal frustration with Sony exploded outwards, much like a chess buster from Alien Covenant.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Look at that, go full circle. The truth is, I believe Sony is mind controlling gamers across the world into a collection delusion about their games. As a PC gamer I was long envious of PlayStation gamers and their long list of award-winning exclusive specifically their big first-party titles whether it be Spider-Man, Horizon Zero Dawn or Ghosts of Tsushima. I was constantly awaiting the announcement of a PC port and hoping I'd get to play them myself. Thankfully over the past few years almost all of them have come to PC but after trying them all I've slowly come to a sad realization they're almost all wildly
Starting point is 01:00:36 overrated and almost identical to Ubi Slop. The only one I really enjoyed was God of War, which was actually great and innovative in a lot of aspects, even though it had Ubi-style filler to an extent. Jim touched on why he enjoyed Ghost of Tsushima, which was in the most recent one I played, to be clear. I don't think it was bad, but it was a quintessential 7 out of 10 game to me. It was beautiful and there were some strong narrative moments like the ending, but the moment-to-moment gameplay is truly indistinguishable from Assassins. Creed games and most of the game was a repetitive slog I really do not understand how Sony has conjured up this mainstream conception that these games are anything more than what they are seven out of ten time killers and I enter a blind rage
Starting point is 01:01:19 whenever I see them being mentioned at award shows because of the realization of mine I have almost zero hype for ghosts of Yote and unless it has a meaningful progression from that formula I don't see myself playing it and my head will explode when it inevitably wins another award next year have any Either of you had any more experiences with Sony titles, specifically their major open world ones, and if so, have you felt the same way about them? I've seen some people share this view specifically on Twitter, but many still react like it's heretical when you talk down Sony games. So, um, I was, during the 360 PS3 era, was I was full on Team Xbox you know because at the time it was like you had had Haley had
Starting point is 01:02:11 gears you had forza well the best shit was on there man then then the last of us came out I remember and it was in 2013 a big deal for a game to come out with that kind of writing quality and performance quality and I started to understand it around that time. Of course you had the Uncharted trilogy before that as well, which a lot of people love. Again, I was never really that hype on Uncharted either, but I know that's more of the, I'm more of a, in the fringe of that one. But yeah, I was kind of won over to their games for a while there.
Starting point is 01:03:00 But something happened in that PS4 generation where it's like they, that love, lightning in the bottle of The Last of Us, they felt like, oh, that's our identity now. That's what we are now. Let's do this forever. Everything's going to be this super serious, sad dad, over the shoulder, maybe have an open world, or at least an open world segment in an otherwise non-open world game thing. And it's, yeah, we're at a point now where something like Astrobot comes out and is praised for not being that.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And yeah, an Astrobot looks way, I'm much more likely to play the new Astrobot than I am. Any number of these, even Ghosts of Yote, to be honest. Because I did buy, when I got the PS5, I did buy Ghost of Tsushima. Played it for like an hour or something. And yeah, I am just so kind of, just not intrigued by the, hey, here's a big map and a bunch of, like, icons to go to type design anymore. I'm so burnt out on that from that 360 era playing all those Assassin's Creed games, the Far Cry games, all these Ubisoft games. Kind of rinse and repeated that.
Starting point is 01:04:18 And yeah, I also really enjoyed that God of War, the first one, a lot more than the Ragnarok one, where again, it's like, oh, we've got this lightning in a bottle thing. Here's more. Let's do more of it. it's mostly a pacing thing for me I think the they're like for a game like the last of us going for that going for that kind of thing that like 12 to 14 hour time is perfect and that's all I'd want from that but then you get like the last of us two and it's just too long and the paces forever and it does have these like open world segments which are not even badly designed but it's like why are we doing this
Starting point is 01:05:02 here in this game I feel like this belongs somewhere else and it's just big bigger and bigger and bigger especially when these budgets and how long they're taking is taking longer and longer and the godable Ragnarok compared to that first one like there there are clear sections of that game so this is just too long I just did not need this in this game you're like almost smothering me with this value as far as minutes engaged But I hear what you're saying is I don't feel compelled to jump into a lot of their stuff or barely ever finish them
Starting point is 01:05:39 like they mentioned the Horizon games one of the they sell really well those games but they are dull man dull main character dull world it's just cool watching like these big robot dinosaurs kind of break apart but everything outside of that like sucks um and that yeah i they have that kind of i think avatar as a property is better than those horizon games but they almost have that same thing right so where's the cultural
Starting point is 01:06:12 connection with this thing that's selling 10 plus million units but who like loves the characters from horizon who such a a bland universe to me and yeah a lot of their stuff is like that, like, a new god of war, a new last of us right now would just not be very exciting or interesting to me. And that's not to say that, like, on the Xbox or whatever stuff's crazy, I don't know, just that kind of game, it's not, there's something unsustainable about those big AAA games of that level. Even from Spider-Man 1, Spider-Man 2, like I thought the original one was really fun, cool to see, I mean it wore its influences on its sleeve as far as the Harkham stuff's concerned, but I really enjoyed that story, the characters were
Starting point is 01:07:05 cool. And then that's Spider-Man 2 was just like, more, bigger, awesomer. That's, yeah, this story kind of sucks, these characters are annoying. Yeah, I don't know. They're definitely not what is most interesting about video games right now. To me. But let me know your thoughts in the comments below. And thanks for watching this episode. Make sure you check out the Patreon. Um, J After Hours, which I'll be doing now.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Take care of yourselves and leave some stuff for gym for next week. Thank you.

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