JAR Media Posdact - NO, I'M ALEXX - Brocast #12

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Poo and we and poo and stingoo. Did you? Was it a bit shit? It was... We were having a conversation about it or something and I was like, I think it's calling to me. Mm-hmm. I think it was that day after we recorded.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Did it like it? Yeah. It's probably my favourite experience with the movie. with the movie, to be honest like with all of it like first time watching was subs with the context of Furiosa just knowing what to expect
Starting point is 00:00:41 from it like I needed to pause it at a certain point to go to the toilet or something and looked at the time code it was like it feels like 15 minutes but it's like past an hour that's how you know
Starting point is 00:00:54 yeah that movie don't waste no time there's only one thing I criticize about it now TBH the one point I don't love is the
Starting point is 00:01:10 the nighttime scene I think what happens is cool I love when he goes off and you don't actually see what he's doing yeah yeah that's the best bit of that section do you mean the way it looks
Starting point is 00:01:21 something about how it looks because I shot it in broad daylight um Where there's nothing like that in Furiosa, there's not like a whole setting where the, that's even a question in my mind. Like, every single location, like, hits for me as important as it is to that movie to have that swamp setting or whatever. Yeah, it's probably like the least interesting bit. I get why it's there as well. I kind of like the way it looks there.
Starting point is 00:01:55 You know, it's like... I'm torn because, yeah, there is something cool and stylish about it, but it also does obscure things in a way. I don't know, I'm just thinking about it, whereas in other scenes I'm just like there, you know? Right, yeah. Whereas I'm not thinking about it in the same way. Windmill, windmill father. Did your spirit animal is a fucking little bird, one of those birds. Tweedy bird.
Starting point is 00:02:28 A tit. A breed of tit. One of them lashes blue tics. A booby bird. What was that with the people naming birds? Call that one a fucking tit from. You're telling me you wouldn't call a bird a booby bird if you had the chance. I'd call it like the cock and bulls bird.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah. Something with a bit more grit. A little bit of grunt. Just to make it really awkward in a little. when you were teaching biology in primary school. So the kids would go, this is the slit flyer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:05 This is the clitter-erd. We dug up a clitorisaurus for you. Wouldn't that be awesome, though? To have something that's significant named after you. Because I was thinking about this sort of like, you know, Isaac Newton, Nicholas Tesla. Imagine... A dino?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Or a dino or... Something like this. A discovery. To have something significant named after you. A star. A... Something like this. Well, you gotta do something.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Oh, I know. To get that. I know, I know. But I'm just saying... It's almost like the ultimate... Like clout, the ultimate... Yeah, yeah, yeah. High score.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Like Pythagoras out there, like... Rolling in clout. Because for those... A lot of humans are like... It's one of their driving forces in their life is like legacy. Yeah, to live beyond. To go beyond. And what better way to go beyond than to dig up a clitorisaurus?
Starting point is 00:04:09 That's not your name, though. Could be. I guess. If you discovered something, would you change your name? I'd change it to clitosaurus in order to put delay on the name. You discover like a star. Yeah. This is Clotitit...
Starting point is 00:04:27 Constellation Clitosaurus Cletitius Constellation Cletitius Clitius That kind of fist, isn't it? I mean Stranger Things I'll tell you a stranger thing
Starting point is 00:04:44 It's the 12th episode of The Brocast A um JAR Media Side Story Adjad Media Spinoff? What do they call What do they call it? A...
Starting point is 00:05:00 What's Furios or a Mad Max? Solo saga. A... Saga? What do they actually call it in that one? I can't remember. Because what's the one that started it? Wasn't it? Like solo? Rogue 1. A Star Wars story. That's the kind of first time I remember seeing that kind of phrasing. Acolyte. A Star Wars shit stain.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I can't believe you said that. This is too perfect. Just hold on. Without this groundhog otter thing, was there a gopher tracker in the High Republic that the Jedi stopped using during the prequel trilogy that I'm not aware of? What? Gofer? What's that from? Wait, you want to hear it again? Yeah, let me double check that.
Starting point is 00:05:49 That's fact. Years away. way without this groundhog otter thing was there a gopher tracker in the high republic that the Jedi stopped using during the prequel trilogy that I'm not aware of how many times I haven't seen an episode of the Acolyte I just now and again in my recommended Star Wars theory gets like in there I guess when he has a controversial video and everyone is super upset about the Acolyte constantly yeah and there was something to do with Ki Adamundi that that caught my eye
Starting point is 00:06:21 People are, they were upset about... Is he the frog one? No, Kiara Mundi's the big head. Oh, yeah. But the law is like, he's the one, the one race of Jedi that's allowed to procreate because they're, they're going extinct. So he's the one exception there. Is he like a bachelor, like?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah, he's got like a harrow. A lot of baby movies. Yeah, straight up, like... Drake of the Star Wars, you know. Yeah, so Ki Adamundi was floating around and I'm like, okay, I've got to find out at least. Yeah. Why people are upset?
Starting point is 00:06:51 about this one and people are like making these four-hour-long videos like he had a mundi he has that line in phantom menace where he says a sith hasn't been seen in a thousand years but the acolyte is not even set a thousand years ago and here he is and my whole thing is like yeah you can get mad about that but like really like you've been clinging on and it's like the acolyte that breaks you yeah i mean to to ride along for the prequels and be or just everything everything everything yeah to do with that franchise and it's like here is that that was the straw man like I think I kind of like uh what was that all the Disney plus like original shows just blend into this one gooey Disney thing in my brain the the Nick Fury TV show that came out remember that yeah um and I watched that like parts of it in a semi haze of like
Starting point is 00:07:47 before I'm going to sleep like I fall asleep mid episode on an iPad I did that with the first episode of the acolyte so i'm not going to say i've seen it um but i've seen smears of it you know there's like a smeary acolyte in my in my mind's eye um epic no in fact i was so distracted because the you know the squid game guy's in it oh yeah um i read a fact that like he he kind of learned how to speak english or at least mimic english for that role because he's such a big star wars dude or whatever but knowing that he doesn't actually fully he's not able to fully speak english but he's like kind of learned these specific lines with that information it was making it like i can't not hear that now um yeah but anyway i really i don't particularly care
Starting point is 00:08:38 and so they only got him because of squid game squiggin i guess um the matrix ladies in there Julian Moss That name Um You know Matrix lady She's Aria And Aspect
Starting point is 00:08:53 Um She is isn't she Yeah She's in there Briefly Um Cool Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:00 You sold the show to me Yeah I'd recommend Having a smeary dream About It Yeah Um
Starting point is 00:09:09 Before we get too deep into the show Let me shout out There's Jerm Media Patrons Patreon at the Patreon. Alright? Make the audio version of the show possible.
Starting point is 00:09:21 They get their names read out in the first or second week of each month if they're a dibby tier or above. And if that isn't enough, there's also the Geo Media Group chat. People leave suggestions of things to talk about. Um... Can you edit lightning coming out of my fingers? Poutity. Yeah, that's guy. Can you do that?
Starting point is 00:09:44 Um... Um, I'm more of a Jedi myself. Oh, okay. I don't stoop to those sorts of tracts. It's blasphemous. Are we forgetting any housekeeping business? I don't think so. Outside of going to the housekeeping segment, of course,
Starting point is 00:10:00 where we clean up the conversations from that previous week. Yeah. Um, I'm just going to start with this one, which does involve me just playing you another out-of-context thing that will become in context. Oh my God, my own voice. right just listen to this okay emily 6334
Starting point is 00:10:21 has this to say can Alex try to briefly act as crackhead era Alex can he still channel the energy hey I'm Darren I'm Justin and I'm Chad and we're from the geek game so are they
Starting point is 00:10:38 are they doing this on purpose they know like when to insert that is what I was saying before there must be some algorithm or thing that can like scan for like when there's a natural break or pause to insert it because people like it's building conspiracy theories people think i'm doing it on purpose can you blame them kind of because it's like why would i go back to that random episode and like insert that there you know why would i do that i don't know but that's what that's what makes it so good well yeah i mean these guys are these guys are game the geek cave is um
Starting point is 00:11:15 I think we can endorse the the geek cave with our full pussies I definitely get my pussy out for the geek cave yeah I donate my pussy to the geek cave well yeah we have been saying about 2016 coming back and it really feels late yeah man well speaking of the geek cave it's time to devolve
Starting point is 00:11:40 N4 Hodge 1 says you didn't get the entire point with the Geek Cave advert. It's not just that the ad was played at the Osama part of the episode, the ad was repeated constantly on JAR Spotify. I've had to listen to it at least 12 times, which is both hilarious and excruciating because it's probably over a minute long.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Okay, that's a problem. I retract my pussy from the geek cave. No, they're good. Just you can know in your heart that it supports us, and if it really bugs you that much, there's a ad-free version on the Patreon I've started putting up there
Starting point is 00:12:17 so you're an option but yeah I don't know why it has to just be that one ad on every episode it would be nice if there was maybe another one two would be good yeah saying that ads on anything are I mean my
Starting point is 00:12:34 issue at the moment is Amazon Prime like yeah I've been re-watching the boys and back when I originally watched it you just watch it you know it would do that thing at the beginning of an episode that's like a skipable ad
Starting point is 00:12:51 for stuff that's on Prime but now it's like fucking moisturizers and stuff and like I may need moisturiser I'm a bit sunburned it's the principle it's yeah I already I already have a moisturising brand that I prefer so
Starting point is 00:13:06 they've gone like full circle with me where it's like Amazon Prime was just like this bonus thing that like well I like buy packages, like I didn't buy this for this service, and now it's like, well, you're kind of ruining the service that was just a bonus, and you kind of make me just want to get this in other ways. Yeah, because you're pushing me away for the same reason that Sky TV pushed me away. That's exactly it. I think they're going to end up screwing themselves. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Maybe spend less money. who uh amazon amazon and netflix and no that's too hard but do you know what i mean like like i like the boys and stuff and i i appreciate the the production value and rings of power and rings of power but like do do you absolutely need to be spending the amount of money on it that you are like to get it made you mean oh right well yeah i agree stuff like oh yeah i completely agree with this. Make good TV, but maybe just make smaller scale things, maybe... Just out of control budgets, yeah, like speaking of the acolyte, I think it's nearly $200 million budget for that. Um, yeah, how does that make sense? Then we're getting, like, if, if you made,
Starting point is 00:14:28 I feel like, uh, like Mr. Robot, right? I feel like for the most part, that wouldn't have been too expensive. This cleverly made, cleverly shot, like, a lot of scenes are just like in random MISC offices, which would not be expensive set up. But the show is gripping and really good throughout. You know, it doesn't need this crazy budget. I'm sure most of the budget went on the actors
Starting point is 00:14:53 for that show. Yeah. Well, they kind of, they cornered themselves. It's like, these two things you've built this whole platform on this like Marvel Star Wars slop. Yeah. These are two of the most expensive, like, types of media to make, the big sci-fi
Starting point is 00:15:09 space opera and the superhero. big scale action like all these things require so much pre-production and special effects yeah yeah so of course they're going to be insanely expensive and then they like outsourced all these different animation farms all the like are they we end up suffering because the priority isn't on making something good no it's on throwing enough money at something thinking that makes something good and they're working at such a scale and the budgets are so obscene
Starting point is 00:15:41 that it's almost like it's inflated to such a degree where it's built into the process now where it's like oh well Spider-Man I guess is in this movie we'll shoot the whole film with him in like a green suit and we're still designing the suit
Starting point is 00:15:56 while the movie's like being made and we might have the visual effects team put together a shot with this suit but then a month later so they decide actually we need to change the suit so it looks a little bit different so they send it back and then that's another like round of renders and it's like it gets expensive
Starting point is 00:16:13 really quick and we all suffer we all suffer um um monkey dude nine five two so i've been to the harry potter studio in london before and there's a part of it near the end where they sell butter beer it tells it tastes like melted worth as originals and is one of the worst things i've ever put in my mouth. Yeah, it sounds terrible. Yeah. But do you be you? Did I ever sound like alluring to you butter beer? No, you didn't even remember what it was when I brought it up. Is it a thing in Harry Potter? Yeah, yeah. It's like, well, they're always drinking. Um, I guess. Is it alcohol, is it an alcoholic beverage? I think it's more like, you know, the chocolate frogs where it's supposed to appeal to children type thing. Right. Well, if you want something to appeal to children,
Starting point is 00:16:58 don't call it bit. Well, yeah, it's like British though as well, so it has to have a pubby sort of thing. Butter ale. I'm surprised they didn't. actually adopted that in like pubs where it's like let's groom the kids into drinking nice and young, you know, like with the cigarette things, with the candy cigarettes, all that. Oh yeah. Dobby's just really been on my mind.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You know? Speaking of Harry Potter. And speaking of, I guess, we mentioned one of the actors from Harry Potter being in trouble for something and kicked off the movies. Oh, yeah. And we both had the story a little bit wrong. Painted Rhino 4381 says
Starting point is 00:17:38 Crabb from Harry Potter wasn't in the later ones not for selling drugs but for being a terrorist. Now there's more details to that because I was like, well, I'm going to need to find out what you mean by that. Yeah, well, how does that mean? And it was a bit of a flash in the past like, oh yeah, I'd completely forgotten about that because he was involved in the London riots that happened in like 2011.
Starting point is 00:18:00 which I was only fairly young for it was like a big almost like George Floyd level thing that went down in London and all these riots and he was a part of it and got two years in jail wow what did he did he had a stolen bottle of champagne
Starting point is 00:18:23 or something and he had a Molotov cocktail I think in a way You sure it wasn't a spell? Molotovius coctelius. Seeing as we're on this kind of similar note again, old Mandy Abita says, imagine living your best life as a raven, and then you get drafted into the military. And the whole raven thing must have annoyed this person, John Romerz.
Starting point is 00:18:49 England is such a joke of a country. Raven soldiers and ravens being dismissed, full stop. Dude, where's this guy from? Um... Box him. Live on air. Yeah? Right now.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Give me his IP address. Um, we just have his, his home address, which is... Homer. Is he in Springfield? 43, uh, Springfield Drive. Um... What, is, does Homer's house have like a... Number?
Starting point is 00:19:27 Do they have like a lane like this? You know? Yeah, I'm sure they do. What's the Breaking Bad one? Something of Roy O' Lane. Oh, I can't remember. That's too niche for me. No, it was like the meme for a while, so everyone knew it.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Oh, right. If I knew, I'd definitely put my finger up in the air and say it with confidence there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Excuse me, I think you'll find. the street name is. But all countries have cringy cultures. Well, you're going back to the raven defence?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah. I would say this is one of the things I will stand firm on with the UK and Britain. Is the Raven Law? This is the coolest thing I've ever heard and I'll stand by this. Okay, here's a question then. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that in this election, every party is voting to abolish the Ravens. because they cost too much money.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Well, then I'll start my own party, a raven party. Apart from, reform. Would you vote reform? Raven form? Raven form. No, I'd start up at my own party. An independent raven party. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Every debate you're on you, I have like a raven on your arm. You could call it the raving party. Yeah. Yeah. There is a party, isn't it? The something raving loony. Raving monster loony party. There's always one.
Starting point is 00:20:56 there's always three chemical problem that's a good name it's very surprising that Jamie was not interested in Metal Gear Solid 3 Delta remake when talking about the Xbox showcase
Starting point is 00:21:08 I don't watch it Is it the Kajima's not involved Are you guys not interested in remakes of old classics Personally I think it looks interesting But if it sucks We will have the old one to go back to Also not being in the Fox engine sucks
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah I mean I'm sure it will be cool Do you trust Konami? I don't trust Konami but I mean saying that they made every metal go solid game but he was there though yeah um but like he's the reason metal go solid five didn't get finished you know like kajima had his own problems yeah yeah I'm sure he he like went over budget on every game and like he just didn't want to make them but he was like forced to just keep making them. Yeah. He was like training up a
Starting point is 00:21:55 replacement metal gear maker at some point and then let that guy make one game and then he was like, nah, I'm doing it. You suck. Yeah. Um, I'm sure it wasn't quite like that, but yeah, um, I've, I've not really seen anything like gameplay wise from it. Um, the only thing I've seen is they've taken away the piss filter, which is unfortunate. They took away the piss filter Yeah, it doesn't really look pissy anymore
Starting point is 00:22:25 You know what I'm saying? Yeah That was kind of the point Yeah, it needed to look pissy That was like the style Yeah Okay Um
Starting point is 00:22:35 That's the thing that's getting more and more Obvious The more games that are remade Where they're like They're just so obsessed with like Fidelity and making sure You can see all the pores On the skin and stuff
Starting point is 00:22:46 And it's like But what about like What the original atmosphere Or mood was Yeah The style Yeah Yeah, because they did it with Halo 1.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Looks like they're doing it with that. Yeah, I mean, Halo 1 is a special case. That remaster is awful. It's not right, yeah. Just changing, like, the time of day, changing the mood, changing the location. Yeah, it's very weird. Yeah, and like the color, the kind of choice is just embarrassing. No, but like, it does look cool and it looks pretty faithful.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I was the one I was most interesting. coming out, I don't know, I, I haven't been that hyped for a game, like, including Eldon Ring and stuff since Red Dead 2. Yeah, pretty much. I honestly think that the death of E3 has kind of ruined it, too. Yeah. I liked that as like a packaging for like, that's all just kind of convene. Yeah, I knew what this stuff was happening.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah, you can make a little event out of it, like watch it with your friends or whatever. Yeah, and you didn't miss it. same way. And that's just like, oh, randomly I'm going to drop this YouTube video that you might or might not see. Yeah. And with like the YouTube algorithm. Yeah. It's more likely just going to show me, um, like Christian, uh, propaganda. Um, two more here. If we go into a topic I want to mention. Um, Tambet Amisto 7423 says, quoting a time. What? You're excited for Doom? I've recently been listening to the old
Starting point is 00:24:25 episodes of the cast and you both always held very strong opinions. You dislike the new Doom games so I'm wondering what caused y'all's opinion to change. I was really hoping you'd remember something because I don't really remember shit talking Doom. I did. Um, going way back
Starting point is 00:24:41 Doom 1. Yeah. The first remake. I said like I've tried to play it three times and it just got really boring. Oh, that is bringing it back. Was I with you on that? Yeah, definitely. Oh, opinion-wise, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Opinion-wise, yeah, yeah. I think you were, like, impartial. You weren't, like, passionate either way about it. I definitely played the whole game. I finished that game. The first one? Yeah, and the second one. Yeah, because, like, going back to then,
Starting point is 00:25:09 I would have been talking about Doom 1 before Eternal had come out. Because when I played Eternal, it was like, oh. Eternal's, like, fantastic. Eternal's way better. Uh-huh. Like the systems all work together Yeah, it's really mechanically rich Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah, I love like the The lock and key Yeah The like triangle thing Yeah Yeah Yeah the second one's really good So if they make another game
Starting point is 00:25:36 In that vein Hell yeah Yeah because I was big Unlike the Bethesda side I was more into like machine games And like Doom and those shooters Than like the actual Bethesda games themselves Yeah I was big into
Starting point is 00:25:49 I was big into I personally preferred Wolfenstein just because of, like, the plot stuff. Yeah, yeah. How mad is. Gameplay-wise, Doom Eternal's hard to be. Yeah. And they're kind of always talking about Halo, but, like, those games, those Doom remakes, really show me that, like, oh, you can still be the thing, even if the thing's old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:10 You can't. You just got to actually, like, have an idea. Uh-huh. Um. Yeah. I mean. And finally. Apophith says bear, bear boy, boys.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Bebeer. I enjoyed the raven discussion on the last app, and noting your amusement about animals being commissioned soldiers thought you might be interested in the famous Polish soldier bear, Voitek. He was an orphaned cub that was brought by a lieutenant and donated to the 22nd artillery support company, where he became something of a mascot,
Starting point is 00:26:47 mimicking the soldiers in marching, saluting, drinking, coffee and smoking cigarettes. Later, his company was reassigned to fight alongside the British in Italy, but mascots were forbidden. So in order to keep him, he was drafted as a private before being promoted to corporal after distinguishing himself by carrying £100 crates of artillery shells, typically requiring four men to carry. But my favourite part of the story is that after the war, he lived a peaceful life in Edinburgh Zoo. Making guest appearances on Blue Peter and enjoying visits from soldiers from his old unit where he'd recognised Polish words and be given a few cigarettes just like all times.
Starting point is 00:27:23 What? Do you feel like there's a bunch of like untapped potential with animals? Like look what we've done to cats and dogs, right? Yeah. Like if we domesticated every animal. Domesticated a bear? Yeah, I mean that bear sounds pretty domesticated.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And you see the odd like dodgy TikTok of like a video from Russia of like a bear. that's like just too well trained. I saw one where there was a guy who was treating it like a dog and he was like, sit, obviously in Russian or whatever. And the bear's just doing it. And they're just like in the woods and it's like, what is the context here?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Like, how have we got here? Yeah, there's quite a few like bear lion wolf videos that just appear now and it's like... These weird videos of like, watch this golden retriever and a lion hugging. It's like, where is this? I go, where are you doing this? I think the key is if it's a carnivorous animal,
Starting point is 00:28:25 if you keep its tummy full, then it will be friends. That will make a difference. It'll be friends. Not agitate it, respect him. Yeah. As long as it's not, I don't know, I was going to say it has to, I feel like there needs to be like a mammal thing going on.
Starting point is 00:28:41 That's important. Um, I don't know, ma'am. What do you mean? no you're right I'm trying to think I was thinking snakes because people have snakes they have yeah they have snakes
Starting point is 00:28:56 they have like lizards and they're cool but they're not like domesticated yeah they they don't give a shit yeah yeah where like I feel like an aggressive
Starting point is 00:29:10 cobra would attack me whether its tummy was full or not hmm you know I hear. Whereas a chubby bear. Chubby bear. Chubby fat, like, full as can be bear.
Starting point is 00:29:28 All the honey you could ever want. He's not going to waste the energy on crushing my head. Although, have you seen those scary videos of like, look, we've got the circus bear on live TV. And then the circus bear snaps. I suppose they're being abused. Yeah, I mean, it's being humiliated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:46 You know, get me, it's riding that little bike thinking, like, if I just had a bigger bike, I wouldn't be doing this. Oh, yeah, that's a, God, that's a classic old, horrible, like, internet video that was always... Oh, when it gets the monkey. Yeah, the bear, I think that was in Russia as well. Like, a bear on a tiny tricycle gets just fed up. It's like chasing a monkey on a trike. Yeah, the monkey paddling. And just, like, jumps off the trike and just grabs the monkey and eats the monkey.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. And it's like, what do you... Well, that's a person. A perfect example of like the class system, you know, bottom class fighting, while the audience just goes, ha ha, ha. Yeah. We're all bears on tricycles with Rishi trying to run away in the front. Rishy and the rest are all in the audience. We can't say Rishy there because no one knows who he is outside of the UK.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Really? It's not like the president. Yeah, yeah. I don't think he is a household name, like... Let's call him Prime Rishi then so people know. Call him Dishy Rishi. Rishy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Prime Dishi Rishi. But yeah, shout out to Voytek. Yeah, nice one, Vytec. That gives me a rock on. Before we go to the break, it's just one thing I wanted to shout out. It's a little bit crazy. A little bit like,
Starting point is 00:31:11 nowadays we don't really talk about like commentary or like YouTube drama or any of this nonsense, but this weird tangential link I have to this feels like something worth bringing up Jonathan VSVG11 says Thoughts on the I'm Alex situation
Starting point is 00:31:29 with Bated supposedly returning for an episode It's strange to see drama relevant to the only two Jalcast crossover episodes emerge in 2024 So yeah that is incredibly weird Colossil is crazy came on the car and we did that co-lab episode.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I'm Alex took over from Zaptai on hot wet soup which was Bated's like competitor podcast I guess so that is like a weird link but that is my link I guess with I'm Alex or whatever and I kind of wanted to bring this up as like a jumping off point as like a
Starting point is 00:32:10 like what is the UK usually YouTube scenes like problem like what like what why is it why is it like this I've always had a problem with it you know the the the beauty squad thing or the it's all these like groups clicky it does feel very clicky and it's all very clicky in these like groups online anyway but there's just something specifically about these these British ones that form that just has never gel with me like I never watch of these you know the I don't even know the name of like the group KSI is in and
Starting point is 00:32:49 that whole enormous thing and I don't like care about yeah and it's all kind of like you know sport related and kind of laddie type stuff that doesn't really appeal to me but yeah I guess I'm Alex is being talked about because he crafted the ultimate cancellation of himself mm-hmm maybe he just had enough maybe it's like yeah let's just go out with a bang I guess Yeah, I wonder how many YouTubers, like, decide that. Because, yeah, he's in the background had a bit of a reputation in the UK space for being kind of slimy, or at least just the type of, uh, YouTuber or creator you bring up when it's like, it's what you fear if, like, you met someone there, like, I make YouTube videos. it's like the fear of what that person might be like you know from stories like
Starting point is 00:33:49 right right you know what I'm saying where it's like it's not even really about the videos it's about what you can get from these videos you know there's some social climbing about it like it's just jumping from like big group to big group like and then these cloud chasing well yeah and that's like obviously a big part of the space anyway yeah that's the kind of like like built in but there is this like balance of like yeah I want to co-lab with you because like I like your videos and there's maybe something in common
Starting point is 00:34:22 here or whatever but just didn't really get that vibe with his videos ever it's like I guess this whole like holier than thou all my com all my content's like commentary on why people are screwing up their lives and then all this stuff comes out about his life and it's like not just bad but like yeah cartoon Cartoon-ishly evil, like, Planton-level. Because, yeah, I had heard, like, things through the grapevine,
Starting point is 00:34:52 but just, like, kept it quiet or whatever. But this is one of those things where it's, like, let's just wait for, it's like just caught, it's literally caught in 4K. Like, yeah. Just, like, vaguely at the, the details or whatever,
Starting point is 00:35:06 I guess, uh, it's just an asshole to one of his girlfriends who were secretly recorded some of the, stuff where he'd like jump on discord and have a go at her and record the whole thing with his full like streaming setup i showed you a couple of clips and it's just it doesn't even like when you watch it it doesn't even make sense it's like is this a skit it would easily be mistakeable for content or a skit yeah uh his his exaggerated reactions to things like
Starting point is 00:35:36 the whole brick comment and all this kind of absurdity yeah yeah i mean i i i I'll be honest, I've never watched the guy's videos. I've never been into that genre of YouTube. I don't know if I'm underestimating how big of an audience he had. You were, yeah. Enormous, I would say. Yeah, yeah. And he kind of tailored his image to be really,
Starting point is 00:36:06 it really appealed to, like, sort of teenage girls, I think. Yeah. It always seemed obvious to me, but it seemed to, like, connect with an audience. I guess someone likes this. Bella Hadid is doing something just a little bit too far this week for me. Like that kind of shit. And it's like, okay, I guess. Milk toast.
Starting point is 00:36:32 But, yeah, this is a wild one because it's like, he hasn't responded at the time of recording this. And so I don't think it's possible. I think you have two options. You either just, well, three options. You say nothing. you make some like groveling apology and be like I'm depressed I'm I'm in therapy now that kind of thing or just in two weeks he just starts uploading again
Starting point is 00:36:55 and like just never address it which now very doable honestly I mean thinking about it you could just never stop yeah he could just keep going mm-hmm it's proven to actually work like a keemster like he just yeah you have to like take something you have to take the nugget and be like what am i going to do with this um am i going to use it as an opportunity well so yeah do how much guilt do i have over this of like how bad is the thing i've done yeah i mean if you're a total psycho and you get cancelled for something like this Surely you could use that to get more views by uploading soon.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It depends how much. I guess the thing that separates him from a Keemstar is that Keemstar kind of loves that whole like being the villain of the internet thing, like the attention he gets from it. Whereas like the I'm Alex kind of projection has always been like, I care about what people think about me type thing. So I'm sure he's having a go of it. Um, but I've just, I've never seen anything like this. It's like, it's so completely absurd, um, you know, like, this is even a thing that's possible. And then this like humiliation ritual and. Yeah, just wait for the next one.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah, two, that's why two weeks is the thing, right? Yeah, they're also in inconsequential now. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what makes you, uh, is. is what makes you question though like when is it too far how what can you come back from because it's different when it's maybe all he said she said but when it's when there's evidence of that level you know and it's like not AI it's not yeah yeah yeah um I guess it's up to the audience yeah but at the same time like you can't fall if if he were to
Starting point is 00:39:06 upload and he lost all the people who gave a shit about this stuff or there will be people in his audience who somehow miss it totally possible there'll be people who don't know of him yet and then if he uploads the first video they might see like it's just starting from zero you know but if he's already got the bump of having like big videos in the past I feel like it makes it easier to get big videos again on YouTube you know he'll at least get a bunch of eyes for the my side type thing if he can even do it if he does even try, yeah
Starting point is 00:39:40 but I don't know disaster all round yeah wild those videos are wild yeah like I as an adult I
Starting point is 00:39:54 I don't think I've ever talked to any any other human like that yeah I can say with confidence I never have and it's more like what not that it's not bad like what has come out, but the wider
Starting point is 00:40:09 sort of implication of like if this is just from like the last year and like you're okay with talking to somebody like this, like you don't just start doing that just one day, do you? Like, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I don't know, man. It's very weird. Yeah, I guess after these goddamn messages, at least, uh, wait a minute. Aren't you, Alex? What's that say? Now I'm Alex
Starting point is 00:40:39 Wait Good afternoon, morning, evening on night, I'm Alex No Yeah Hello, this is me, Argi You do realise that there are Mibo shirts available, right? Take a look at the really cute shirts Look in the description or
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Starting point is 00:41:28 It is. It is a Sunday. Yeah, I was in my Saturday feels. Thanks for slapping me back to reality. I thought we were going to leave that pause pregnant then. No. Never like just leaving one of those little pregnancy pauses? Pregnancy ball pauses? Yeah. I don't think these are called pregnancy balls. Was that something I've put on them?
Starting point is 00:41:50 I think, like, it's something our family kind of. Oh, really? Is that where I got there from? What, because mum had a pregnancy ball? No, no, because our auntie when she was pregnant, got one. Oh. Do you remember that? So, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Oh, yeah, that was... I popped it. Really? Yeah. Like bouncing on it too crazily. I can't remember how, but I popped it. Wow. And I remember, like, lying on it with my hand over the puncture.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Like, trying to hide it and being like... Oh, it just had a puncture. It didn't, like, explode. It didn't explode, but I, like, popped it. Oh, I see. So it was leaking air. So I put my hand over it and was lying on it, like, Hey everybody, everything's just average here
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah Everything's just average here Everything's just normality in these Perimeters I guess this is the part of the show We head over to the suggestion thread Over on the Sub-Rabit We can ask any crazy question
Starting point is 00:42:50 About lightning Lightning and the Acolyte The Akeleitening Um Fat Fartter 69 Can get us going here Hello JAR, Fat Farta 69 here What are your thoughts on Ricky's your vase.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I personally can't stand him and hated after life. That show is literally just Ricky beating the viewer over the head with the arguments he has with himself in the shower. Thank you for the great work as always, Bebe. Never watched it. Were you ever, like, big into Ricky? I thought he was funny for a time. I'm trying to remember where it, like, changed for me.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I think it was the Hollywood, Ricky. Where it was, like, you know, the invention of lying and... it wasn't until the end of the golden globes for me when he stopped doing those then it was like we've we've lost all of your worth those were genuinely funny those golden globes yeah like really good I don't think you could get a better comedian
Starting point is 00:43:52 for that yeah the insult comic stuff was really good for that that crowd yeah people would probably say it was a bit too mean No, that's, that's deserve for that crowd. That's exactly what made it so good was how mean-spirited it was. Yeah, I think, for that uppity crowd, like mocking the whole idea. Because they will never experience that anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah. Yeah, you get any other comedian on that stage and it'll be the most lame, like, boring. Like, you might get a chuckle or two. Yeah. but my broader rickie gervais thing is that i feel like as far as writing is concerned he like needs stephen merchant there to like kind of smooth them out a little bit like balance it have a bit more like cleverness and heart um yeah he he doesn't subdue himself at all it's so obvious that he's just like speaking to the audience yeah and everyone feels like ricky and you can tell
Starting point is 00:44:59 it's all like yeah rickie's perspective and like like He's not really acting. He's just kind of playing himself and I always just see Ricky. Yeah. And as far as his social media stuff goes, it's like... Very cringy. Yeah. The like hyper atheist, you know, with the... Hyper atheist free speech, mumbo jumbo. Which is annoying because like these are concepts that like, I don't even like... disagree with necessarily it's just the way they presented you know yeah but the like jesus
Starting point is 00:45:35 picture and like yeah but i think something that goes over the head of a lot of people in in these positions like a jk rowling and a rickie chevese where they say all these like horrible things the like free speech is like yeah you can say it but in in like reality you say those things you might get like slapped in the face doesn't mean you're free of consequence yeah yeah that Like, the consequence still exists. That's what bugs me about it was like, you're saying this and making out that there is all this consequence. Meanwhile, you're filling a stadium of people. Yeah, and it's continuing to say it.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. So what's your point? Uh-huh. You think it's wrong that people get upset that you're saying antagonistic things. Mm-hmm. It's like, that's kind of always been the case. And then there's like, one or two of those is fine, but it's like the whole underlying, like, through line is, look how I can't say any of this
Starting point is 00:46:32 and it's been that for like it feels like ages now yeah but also the idea that like you this is some paradigm shift like go back you're breaking the mold go back 50 years what could you say on radio like social media didn't exist what could you say on TV
Starting point is 00:46:50 and it's not like he's like it's not like he's restricted to like rumble he's like on Netflix yeah yeah he's got like the biggest platform yeah so it's just disingenuous and um I think it shows how
Starting point is 00:47:06 like he even though he said all that shit about the celebrities in the golden globes like he's one of them oh yeah he's as disconnected from reality yeah yeah it's like the low hanging fruit because it's like when you have the office money I think you're so far removed
Starting point is 00:47:24 from the average experience that like you actually cannot make something like the office again because the whole reason it connected was that personal experience living an average office job so it's relatable he can't be relatable anymore
Starting point is 00:47:40 did you get paid for the American office that's why he's so obscenely rich yeah oh my god and he's still making money to it from it to the state yeah well it was like the most streamed thing on that yeah Netflix yeah yeah so he's a level of wealth that's just like comical yeah yeah and he makes fun of it sometimes within his Madeira
Starting point is 00:47:58 but it's like yeah he's been doing the same thing for a while I remember finding the stand-up to do of like he did like one on evolution one on religion I don't know how he's in GTA 4
Starting point is 00:48:09 true yeah so yeah there's some fondness from the past but it's not really something I'm into nowadays in fact the stand-up really
Starting point is 00:48:20 annoys me I've not seen his latest one the last one I saw was the one where he like halfway through who wipes out his family and starts like reading stuff from Twitter and it was
Starting point is 00:48:33 kind of awkward and like it's quite like audience capturey where it's like are you telling jokes you're just saying these like opinions that like you know your audience agrees with so they're just like cheering at your opinion every few minutes
Starting point is 00:48:47 like where the jokes you know yeah um Miniature Rani says, with the revelation that Jim has been mewing for some time now, it made me curious. In Jha's opinion, what is the absolute worst online trend that's ever gone viral, Bebe?
Starting point is 00:49:12 I actually do think the, like, Sigma male, like, mewing stuff is actually really bad, like, really negative. I was thinking about this. I think mewing is more popular with women. I think it's just all like it within that looks maxing yeah yeah but these concepts being like a meme just everyone knows I don't think is good whereas like what was the harm that was being done when it was like
Starting point is 00:49:39 Chuck Norris can beat anyone in a fight yeah yeah yeah but there was the the obscene shit of like poison you know the Tidepod challenge yeah yeah people were just but that's more recent I'm saying I'm saying like the trajectory of the danger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel like mewing, Tidepod,
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm gonna pick Mewing. You know, the challenge era was particularly- But like, what is the like subtext of like, 11-year-olds or going around making fun of like, your jawline sucks. Like, you're never gonna be a true alpha male. You might as well just kill yourself or do something horrendous.
Starting point is 00:50:20 That's like a lot to put on a young mind, you know? Yeah Yeah, true Yeah, it's gonna Make the bettas even more beta Because like you're already like so self-conscious And like, I'm no idea who you are Well then they start mewing and looks max
Starting point is 00:50:38 To Godhood Yeah, I don't know about that one Yeah, those trends are bad Just like What's like a good trend When is one of these Like actually good or productive You need Chinese TikTok for that
Starting point is 00:50:58 You're right Stem TikTok Which I did see in the settings is an option Like hidden away Like yeah do you want to put on stem TikTok Zero point two percent of the users Yeah I don't know
Starting point is 00:51:18 I'm sure there's loads I'm forgetting I think trends are bad in general You need to be a sigma you need to walk you need to be a man going your own way yeah yeah don't follow trends don't mew me too
Starting point is 00:51:31 I get concerned sometimes like with the with the irony thing to like such a degree where like if you ever say something like making fun of mewing all this alpha stuff or whatever then someone hears it and like maybe they just misinterpret something you're saying
Starting point is 00:51:47 yeah totally possible because I've had that happen I've just simultaneously like all my time online been both called like ultra right wing and ultra left wing like so I don't really know what we're picking up here it's not really what I'm putting down I don't feel like anyway but I don't know maybe I find in um interactions with with people in general in reality something about the tone of my voice um when i make jokes a lot of the time either people think i'm being serious the whole time or it takes them ages to like get that i'm not serious
Starting point is 00:52:37 you think of what it's like a flat affect type thing i think it might be a flat affect type thing you don't like you don't whip out a little little something or other to make it clear well that's the thing as well like I find if you say a joke and then you go I'm joking I'm joking like I feel like that depends on the crowd if you're like trying to figure out you know I I've got a lot of faith
Starting point is 00:53:04 in humanity in humour in humour yeah so like when maybe I am like expecting too much but when I say something that I think is
Starting point is 00:53:19 absurd. I feel like the fact the absurdity of the statement should be enough to tell the person that I'm not serious and I'm joking without me saying on top of the absurdity of the statement I'm joking. Yeah. I have a similar thing sometimes of like I can sound very dry or sarcastic. Yeah. Yeah, that's something I often have trouble with. There's like, like, excitement. Expressing excitement. Well, like, I'm excited. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:57 People seeing me, they're like... Why aren't you fucking losing it? Yeah. Yeah, I've had that before. I'm just, I'm enjoying this moment. Yeah, or I'm looking forward to a thing next week. I'm not physically shaking right now and like screaming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:14 I don't know. Maybe I'm just a little bit, you know, diverse. Look, but a lot of people do that, though, where it's like, you're not reacting the way I react, which must mean that you don't feel the thing I feel. Yeah. It's like, maybe they just show it different. Yeah. Or maybe they're a psychopath. Yeah, maybe I don't feel.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Um, let's do a couple more here. Um, uh, I want to know if anything comes to mind from this one from the Red Spore. bear bear boys you've spoken before about member berries being a bad slash cheap way of engaging an audience or demographic however i was wondering if you think there is a time and place where it is appropriate to use them do you have any examples of member berries you've enjoyed thanks by me i got an example immediately off the top of the dome good good um member berries are epic when dom is coming back true you mentioned goose war last episode yeah um i got the member berry enjoyment from the music sting of Dom being confirmed to return. For me it was more seeing Dom. That's the emotional punch of the trailer. Yeah, it was like, we're back, son.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah. Way back, son. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But, yeah. I saw, like, a hilarious, like, kind of melodramatic YouTube comment that was, like,
Starting point is 00:55:39 Dom makes player two feel like they're player one. Yeah. Stuff like that. It's like so. Mm-hmm. Nelson Gives of all love in the comments. saw some yeah people people losing their minds someone shouted out a like three hour long youtube uh like essay thing that i've downloaded ready to watch it's supposedly like a good
Starting point is 00:56:00 uh is it the one i mentioned what's the name of the channel no uh coldwell javes yeah that's the one yeah he made he's awesome he makes great um yeah that's my kind of jam a three hour long gears of war video let's go yeah um but like even if even if the game sucks that trailer like worked enough for me for like the whole thing to be worth it yeah uh i would say the the john stuff in red dead too um there's some fan service stuff in there that's like this is earned this needs to be here yeah um yeah especially in in that game it being like this is why you liked yeah yeah because like almost the expectation was like you're gonna prefer Arthur now with the amount of time we spent with him so we need to like fast-track
Starting point is 00:56:52 back the memories of how much everyone love John so that works I just yeah I feel like that's the important thing is like is this end does this make sense yeah are you just doing it for the member barriers or is there like a story reason is there a character reason yeah actually do this like um better cool soul was good of like for that kind of thing where it's like nodding or making things just make sense yeah even Furiosa or Fury Road both have good ones like the references to the car and whatnot in Fury Road and little nods to old stuff here and there I didn't tell you actually I watched out half of Thunderdome oh the first half because it's free on ITV yeah so you
Starting point is 00:57:35 saw the Thunderdome bit yeah yeah also is that what is the first half the bad part because I was like yeah the first I was expecting it to be bad but like it was like comically bad like almost like unwatchable When I say Thunderdome Isn't that bad I'm just thinking about like The action set piece In the second half of the film
Starting point is 00:57:56 That Thunderdome bit Were they like doinging it around Yeah like I did not get like what they were Yeah And there's some famous singer In it right Her character is very weird Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:08 And it's really distracting She doesn't like belong in that world No I did kind of dig the Very fallouty like setting where it's like a market town of like trading and stuff that was kind of cool to see very fallouty um yeah but outside of that like max is like super weird in it too like there's something off about him um i guess i just don't like his look compared to the other one
Starting point is 00:58:36 he's got like a massive he's got like a really long hair it looks kind of like tarzan or something yeah i can't remember if he gets a haircut or if he just looked lame for the whole yeah um very weird film from like what i've seen but kind of like interesting yeah really interesting and the the like moral quandary when he knocks the guy's helmet off and he's like oh that's right yeah yeah i did kind of dig that what's it called blastermaster or whatever yeah yeah so crazy yeah truly mad you could say but like mad to the point where it's like this is a little bit annoying actually yeah yeah um bad member berry uh huh hon solo in the force just a lot of that stuff yeah luke in the force awakens um layer in the force of chewy um r2 d2 and
Starting point is 00:59:33 c3 p a lot of like unknown stuff with that like i was thinking about that when i read this question like oh they're doing the millennium falcons sting when she says it's a heart it's a home to garbage and then it's revealed to be there it's like yeah what i'm saying about being earned like is that really earned we're on a desert planet this ship we all know and love it just happens to be here it's like okay that's annoying that's stupid yeah i feel like marvel did it well for quite a while actually yeah um yeah and then they dorked it like the like cap getting the you can't deny that was a moment people were like breathless in the theater
Starting point is 01:00:22 yeah so that's where it's like the big the big scale of this is like yes you could feel it like in the air like this is pretty cool this is like
Starting point is 01:00:34 the concept is like being explored and like you've done it I guess we've seen it now yeah and then he turns into Biden. He really does
Starting point is 01:00:47 kind of, I think, considered that. Yeah, that's why he won the election. They thought it was Captain America. Captain America has dementia. Bad member Barry's the Jurassic World trilogy. Oh God.
Starting point is 01:01:04 That's like, that's on the if the Force Awakens was egregious, that was like if you'd already wrung out that flannel completely. Yeah. Yeah. The one droplet that's left. Let's try and do this thing again. Yeah, and the T-Rex is just like a legend.
Starting point is 01:01:20 It's like a hero. Yeah, he's framed as if he's like Captain America. Yeah. Yeah. He's getting his hero moment. Yeah. But then when they actually bring back like Sam Neal. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Because that's the only one I've seen him for. That's one of the more miserable cinema experiences I've had. Honestly, the last few years. Horrible. Just because mostly because of how long it was. just how uninteresting and like just fuck you this sucks like
Starting point is 01:01:46 yeah the movie focused on like locusts for like 80% of film and then there's like a mission impossible like motorcycle chase through like yeah that's right rocker or something yeah a laser controlling velocity
Starting point is 01:02:02 it's like so annoying and dumb yeah the first movie was like dinosaurs that was it and then and it was like The philosophical quandary at the heart of it and the like...
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah. The Jeff Goldblum sort of like anarchist character. He's a determinist, actually, I think. He's, um... No, he's the opposite. He is an anarchist. He talks about, like, chaos. It has been a long time, I'd have to...
Starting point is 01:02:34 He's like, put a drop of water on your hand and it goes down a different way every time. That's right. Yeah, I think... I can't remember what his philosophy is. Because that doesn't actually happen. Because, like, water will go down the same way. Because it, if it's still wet, you know? Because it's easier for the water to go down the wet.
Starting point is 01:02:51 But it's more like a commentary on, like, trying to control things that you can't. Yeah. Yeah. Playing God type thing. Yeah. Just a good movie. I watched Indiana Jones, um, Temple of Dime yesterday. It's, it's weirdly the most revisitable one.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's crazy. Because it's just so mad. Yeah. It's like, some of the stuff wouldn't fly. There's like an underlying anger to the movie because like, both George Lucas and Spielberg were going through these like nasty divorces at the time. But at the same time, Spielberg was dating Willie. Willie. That's right. Willie sucks.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I hate Willie. I actually, I've had a full like C-3-Pio thing with Willie. Really? Well, like, I hated that character growing up. I empathize with her. But I think it's a hilarious dynamic now. What, yeah, I like their dynamic. I'm fine with her.
Starting point is 01:03:49 It's more the fact that she is the love interest. Like, it just doesn't make sense, you know? Uh-huh. They, that's just, yeah. They hate each other for the whole film. Uh-huh. And that's- But that's what makes it the, like, corny, poppy, like,
Starting point is 01:04:06 James Bond. It doesn't, like, piss me off. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't. I just saw it as, like, I don't know, it's very like a George Luke Seeth story thing It's like we've done
Starting point is 01:04:16 Serial Yeah yeah And like in the first one we did this type of like Phamphatal Let's flip it Yeah And just do the inverse Um
Starting point is 01:04:23 And that works Yeah Short round rocks Best bit Which bit Short round Like he actually is the highlight of the film He actually is the highlight
Starting point is 01:04:35 He roans every scene he's in Yeah he does Yeah he's so charming In the age of like 10. Crazy. Crazy charming. And genuinely funny. Like actually funny.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Yeah. Yeah, quite impressive for a little kid. Well, him just combined with Harrison Ford, obviously. It's like that part where he's going to get crushed in the bugs and whatever, and that face he does. Harrison Ford has a lot of funny faces in that movie. Yeah. That movie is full of funny faces. And although, like, I love it when he gets, like, mind to control.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah, and he gets his evil face on. It's like hearts being ripped out, people being like burned alive. Like all the cult stuff. It gets horrible. The monkey brain. Yeah. Yeah, the cultural insensitive stuff. And then the British come in at the end and save the day.
Starting point is 01:05:27 That's right. It's just, yeah, it's a wild-ass movie. I just love that the action is like, and then this happens. And then this happens. and then there's water through the tunnels and then they're climbing the bridge Yeah and like make fun of like Marvel movies For being roller coaster rides
Starting point is 01:05:49 But that whole It's literally a roller coaster Yeah But it's something about it really works Like it's not annoying It's fun as hell Yeah it's all elaborate and crazy I think
Starting point is 01:06:02 Movies back then And like tying it back to the member berries Like we're being reminded of all these things that back then when you watched a movie and crazy things were happening there was an element of like people had to like put their lives on the line like it's real when you go and see a circus like we did in Vegas you're on the edge of your seat because you there are real human beings doing incredible stunts and you had to be more scrappy with visual effects
Starting point is 01:06:38 Yeah, as well, pre-CG. Yeah, and you had to use them more sparingly. Mm-hmm. So I think that element has been lost for the most part. That's why, like, I'll fall asleep during a Fast and Furious, but, like, a Mission Impossible comes out?
Starting point is 01:06:55 Mm-hmm. Yeah, because you know there's a middle-aged actor who's trying to kill himself. Yeah. You know, the stakes are up Because, like, next Mission Impossible could be, like, news ask. Like, he actually really wants to be gone.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yeah. You know? But he's only going to let it happen, like, naturally. Yeah, Tom Cruise, I think he's going to do Mission Impossible until he dies. Even if that means he's doing a halo jump when he's, like, 90. Something to do with space. Yeah. He just gets launched.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Just fire him in space as his final stunt. Yeah. Send me straight to Zeno. Yeah. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. But most of the time, yeah, member berries. Annoying. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:54 So, you know, let's just end on this one from bathtub, Tom. Hello, Jha. Philosophical bloody conundrum for you here. I think you'd rather enjoy discussing. It's called the ship of Thesius. a thought experiment regarding the nature of identity and existence of the soul say there is a boat that sails for hundreds of years and gradually over time parts of the boat break and need to be replaced
Starting point is 01:08:17 eventually the boat has had all of its parts replaced with new ones but is it still the same bloody ship do you understand the premise yeah i've heard this before yeah what do you think i've heard it more Isn't this what that game Soma's all about? Yeah, kind of I guess Not that I've played that game
Starting point is 01:08:44 I've just watched a few videos on it Awesome It's making you ask like yeah Is your body or your consciousness Yourself What is yourself And I guess I stand by If there was a way to
Starting point is 01:09:00 Put my consciousness As it is right now into another body then that would be me and if there's just like a empty husk without a consciousness then it's no longer me
Starting point is 01:09:12 this is where the soma part of it gets more interesting because what's being done is that your brain is copied it's like copy and paste as opposed to cut and paste I guess so my experience would end but this thing's experience would
Starting point is 01:09:27 well no your your experience would continue but there's a copy But it has severed. No, it's, you stay exactly the same. But this scan thing has copied your brain and then something else wakes up with all of your memories leading up to that point.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Something else, right. But that thing thinks it's you. That thing is you because it's a copy of your brain with all of your memories up to that point put into it. Right. So it's a, yeah. So I guess what's the question? spoiler alert for somer i guess um well this this is um did i ever ask on i feel like you have asked
Starting point is 01:10:13 something to do this before do you have a body or are you your body yeah and i guess people bring this up with the idea of like your cells regenerating over a certain amount of time yeah um so i guess it with the ship thing the ship would be the same ship with that logic yeah but it seems different though with the separating it from like consciousness i mean this thing's a boat that's the part they confuse confuses it's like surely the the the crew on the boat is changing the boat is staying the the crew is changing the the crew is changing like the parts they're replacing it with are like from different places and is it the same ship you would say
Starting point is 01:11:02 still call it the same ship? Yeah, I'd say it is. And what would make it stop being that state, just being destroyed in a storm? If we as people stopped calling it that,
Starting point is 01:11:25 then I guess it would change. I think, like, in terms of continuity, like if do it with a car, like you eventually replace every single bit one bit at a time over the course of a hundred years yeah it's still your car you know you you're like feeling toward it
Starting point is 01:11:45 and your attachment wouldn't change because the change is so incremental well about with the ship one if um for each part that had like broken off or been damaged if you went and salvaged all those pieces and put them back together So then you had two.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Which is the boat? Both? Both are the original? No, one of them will be the original. But the other is it. Yeah. Have you reached any conclusion there? Or do we just like keep that open?
Starting point is 01:12:27 What do you think? I think that I would class it as the same ship. there's not a point I think you would yeah under that framing of a boat you would say yeah it's the same boat if it had like a name you'll still call it the same name yeah you wouldn't be like we have to rename this because we have to change the sale or whatever yeah oh this is the last bit that's being changed you know at what point does it become something else never I mean like it's it's a replica I guess because you can't like take a I mean So does that mean we're like replicas of ourselves?
Starting point is 01:13:06 Maybe. Every now and again? Maybe. But I don't think they're all that equatable. It's different. We're organic. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Because that is an interesting point to zone in on is that if the technology existed to be able to digitize your brain somehow. the like the Passover period the passing of the torch moment like do you even get the payoff
Starting point is 01:13:45 like do you well exactly it's such an abstract sort of concept another thing that uses this concept was the the snowy
Starting point is 01:13:56 episode of Black Mirror one of the best episodes yeah the woman in the toaster her job is to make toast and she's just a copy of the original person but from her experience she has she is that person
Starting point is 01:14:13 yeah um very interesting it's it's not like a a chance you're you're creating a new being I think is where I've landed on it a copy yeah but it's the second
Starting point is 01:14:32 it's away from you it has a different lived experience and therefore is something else someone else but it is a person someone else but it's you it was you you know but then starting from that point two people with the exact two identical people who have had the exact same experience and have the same brain from a starting point what would even be that how much different? Well, one of them... They know it? I guess that makes a big difference
Starting point is 01:15:09 as if they know it or not. Again, if that's hidden. The twins. Same idea. Well, yeah, that's the thing. It all gets quite interesting, theoretically. I guess that's what
Starting point is 01:15:27 musky boy is trying to solve with his monkey chips. Yeah. And that's the thing, like, would... Imagine being in the trials for this, though. Like, we're just going to sort of play around with the very idea of consciousness and, uh... Yeah, we're just going to cool with that. A copy of you.
Starting point is 01:15:43 And theoretically, the you right now, or a version of you right now, will experience being the copy. But then what about, like, the company that runs this tech, you upload your copy and then, like, you can pay a little bit extra to be like, could you just remove like my anxiety yeah could you just remove this like horrible memory just remove the traumas yeah it's kind of a eternal sunshine yeah yeah add some um extra roller coasters in there yeah and trampolines mm hmm but then yeah surely if you start changing things like that then you are no longer yourself then you are losing what you are
Starting point is 01:16:30 Yeah, well, it depends if you're making the copy and giving them, like, the anxiety and trauma. Uh-huh. Because then, yeah, then the clone that comes out might just be, like, completely different because they didn't experience that specific traumatic thing that shaped decision-making from that point onwards. And then it... Well, yeah, what if you made a copy of yourself and just, like, min-max them to be, like, way better than you? like just a crap like the best guy you've ever met and you're like shit this is what I suck yeah like then um we're so yeah you could you could get it's kind of brought up in that
Starting point is 01:17:12 fallout tv show of like the idea of scientists running society they're like the top of the hierarchy and like the kind of craziness that can come from that and I'm just thinking like yeah let's let's have three different consciousnesses but let's have one that like dedicates himself to like only getting strong. And this one is only to learning this specific science or something like this. It's becoming the best
Starting point is 01:17:36 meditation. Yeah. Just see, I'm like, oh, that's what I'd look like with that skill or that random way of being. Because then, yeah, surely if that technology existed, then ways of like simulating it. So you could kind of... But then also, what if you put
Starting point is 01:17:54 like two brains in the same if that was like a service where it's like I want to merge brains with this person yeah like like create like this you know like the gath from from mass effect I feel like that is a potential end point for humanity the hive mind yeah well this is the robot rhino thing again circling back to that always comes back to that
Starting point is 01:18:26 Yeah, but like you, every, every mind would be interlinked. Yeah, but then there's also all the cool, like, details with the geth, where there are, like, subsects. They have, like, different, even though they are hive mind, there are splinters. When they're, like, disconnected. Yeah, yeah. Or they've got, like, old code and, like, stuff like that. Yeah, but they, like, evolve together and they try to bring those. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Yeah. Yeah. Awesome idea. Because, yeah, how would that work? And then, like, if we're a hive mind in this one space and then you create, like, a little scout robot to explore the world. Yeah. Well, I heard an insanely cool science fiction concept along these lines,
Starting point is 01:19:14 which we can kind of end on. There's apparently, like, I haven't read it or whatever. There's like a famous novel, a sci-fi novel that uses this concept in some form. But the idea is basically a... an alien um species somewhere have like sent information to us and they're like long extinct or whatever because of how long just data takes to move across space speed of light and all um but the the alien invasion is the information they sent as in the information they sent is the technology know-how
Starting point is 01:19:52 to get to a certain point and just by giving that information it takes over it's like such a cool like... Yeah it's like technology itself yeah and there's not even like an alien thing like it's just information knowledge
Starting point is 01:20:10 very very cool idea that is awesome I like that I think on that it'll leave you thinking yeah we're working on our sci-fi book bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo the animal the sequel could be boar bo yeah and then the sequel to that is boar bo and the robot rhino boar v rhino b o rino not not not not not the pig yeah thank you for watching this episode um like comment and and subscribe to find out the release of our sci-fi novel, Baw.
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