JAR Media Posdact - Piggy In The Middle - JARCast #228

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 03:50 Piggy in the Middle (Housekeeping) 17:24 The ...Rules 25:22 Running On The Spot Expert 31:42 Alex Rambles About Mass Effect 50:17 James is dissapointed by battlefield leak 54:42 Alex's Brief Impressions of Bad Batch 56:55 Jim & Alex Talk 'Ran' 1:01:49 Beserk 1:08:51 James Jojo S2 1:10:19 Mid Break 1:12:06 If JAR were a WW2 Bomber Crew... 1:14:42 Favourite War Movies 1:18:48 Did Jim Ever Finish Community 1:23:08 Br i ish 1:24:39 What games do you guys think utilize the medium of video games best 1:34:26 Morty Prest Story 1:37:07 What would be the worst historical event to live through? 1:42:35 JAR, $75000 & 4200 Romans 1:46:50 Obsessed Over YouTubers 1:50:27 Fresh Beverage 1:53:30 Mass Effect Love Interests and Bros

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Who's going to intro this, guys? You? Why do I... I don't know if... Bro, I don't know if I got the energy, man. Yeah, you do. Just close your eyes and do it. Good afternoon, morning, evening, all night, ladies.
Starting point is 00:00:18 What are you doing? What are you actually doing? There's a spot. I'm picking the leg spot. Do you never get spots on your leg loads? Yeah, now and again. See, this is Prime Cast Talk, but I'll do the entry. Okay, I'm coming over here.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Why? Why do I have to be, like, the piggy in the middle? That's the name of the cast. Biggie in the middle. Good afternoon, morning, evening, all night, ladies and gentlemen. As you can see. We are back! Something fell down as well, what was it?
Starting point is 00:00:58 It was Ruby D. Oh no. We are here in video. The JARCast has returned and today I'm joined by Alex and Jamie. What's up? And this is JARCast episode. 2-27. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Or was it 2-8? Do we actually forget to change the number? that. It's 2.28. It is 2.8. We didn't change it. Fucking guys. We've been gone a long time, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:39 This is like, this happens. As you can see, we're rusty. We are rusty. It feels extremely weird. Just doing it. Interacting with other humans. Yeah, just being normal. You know, having just my face actually on a video
Starting point is 00:01:52 and not like this, you know, Discord game type thing. So how are we all doing, boys? Yeah. Not too bad. Not too bad. It's been a long fucking time. It's been really long.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Almost as long as the JAR Media Patreon. I'm sure we should shout out before we get any deeper. Head over to the Patreon and give us your love and support so that we can keep funding the show and improving. Because as you can see, this is our new setup. What? This is our new setup, where? Piggy in the middle.
Starting point is 00:02:26 This is the Peekeying in the Middle podcast where we discussed the most intense, We felt like we needed to like re-brand or something. Yeah, you know, after this COVID and how intense it's been, you know, everyone's had massive life-changing events. We thought we'd, uh, re-launch the podcast as a new entity that strives for excellence and normality. And piggy's in the middle.
Starting point is 00:02:52 We are the piggies in the middle. Piggy in the middle can die. I'm fine with piggy in the middle dying. That didn't last very long. Piggy in the middle is dead We're back baby Fuck piggy in the middle Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:04 Piggy in the middle's gone It's jar baby We're back It's back to jar Okay back to jar Welcome to jar Um Let's address some
Starting point is 00:03:14 Topics and questions And stuff from the last episode then We've never done a live action housekeeping I don't think That's fucking crazy You sure about that Maybe
Starting point is 00:03:27 Well I lie because we did The Comment Corners originally, way back in the old days, but... When did we start at the Comment Barrel, Crucible? I thought that was a corn thing, but... Comment Barrel and Comment Crucible were corn things for sure. What's it now, now we're in the live realm? The pigs.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Piggy in the middle. Yeah, Piggy in the middle. Welcome to the Piggy in the Middle section. Yeah, the commenter is like the little piggy in the middle. And their comments being bounced off us as we torment them. As we surround the piggy. Kobe Langston's going to start us off.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Alex calling out Troy Baker for playing Asian characters is the most egregious hypocrisy. Yeah, I thought the same thing as I was saying it, but you know. Wasn't it me that said it? Did you?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. What about old Nick? No, about Troy Baker playing an Asian character? No, because I brought a Mass Effect 3 in that Asian character he plays. And this is of course referencing
Starting point is 00:04:36 Hunt Down the Freeman, where I played an Asian character. What sort of research did you do into... None. None. Did you actually have a choice in the character you'll be? No, I explain it, I think,
Starting point is 00:04:51 in my video. The character model was already rendered, so I guess they didn't want I don't do anything again because it's like takes time and it's hard so they already had the model so the character wasn't written for you
Starting point is 00:05:05 no they just had like a random character and they're like you can be the Asian guy you look like you looked Asian when you were a kid when you were like four no I thought the same in those pictures but
Starting point is 00:05:20 I don't believe that for a second it's true I don't we had a couple questions relating to Mass Effect of course It's all the rage at the moment. The legendary edition is out. I've been playing it a lot. Power Couch says,
Starting point is 00:05:33 I appreciate James geeking out about Ilo Sivigil, the Reaper level and the soundtrack. Definitely one of my fondest memories in gaming. Yeah, when I played parts of Mass Effect 1, and I was massively, because we last talked about it before I'd actually played it, I was massively shocked by the improvements they made to MassFet 1. Oh, we're talking about, yeah, yeah, you tried Legendary Edition.
Starting point is 00:05:57 in MassFet 1? Yeah, it's, it's a real, like, if there's any time to jump onto Mass Effect, it is now. Mm-hmm. That first game is so playable now. Like, I'm probably going to be jumping on it and buying it myself. Because I just, I'm on a Mass Effect craze. It's been on my mind since actually playing MassFo one again. Yeah, and it must have also agreed with that boy, Miguel, who said the Mass Effect
Starting point is 00:06:18 talk honestly convinced me to pick up Legendary Edition. I played a bit of two, but got bored. The talk got me interested about the lore and just side stories. Char. I was thinking about that too because I've been listening to like on watching videos on YouTube, different thoughts on the collection, mostly intrigued by people who've
Starting point is 00:06:37 never played them before. Yeah. What they're thinking. And I've seen mixed things because I don't know how MassFit 1 would strike you if you'd, uh, you know. Yeah, Mass Effect 1 was always the weak link to me, but I do want to say I have bought
Starting point is 00:06:53 MassFet Legendary Edition because of our talk. On the cast and when I briefly tried it And Mass Effect 1 is Really fucking good Yeah It's just the gameplay let it down But I think the gameplay is passable now
Starting point is 00:07:10 With the improvements they've made I was totally wrong About Mass Effect 1 to begin with What do you mean? I always thought Because I never played it as much as you And I was Young when I played it
Starting point is 00:07:25 I played it once maybe twice and yeah getting to it now this game is carried by like just the most fucking awesome world and the best soundtrack
Starting point is 00:07:38 like in a game I've ever heard yeah no the I never I honestly never appreciated truly like the actual work that went into the world building and just the way those three games like intermingle
Starting point is 00:07:53 when you're actually paying attention to all the stuff that's set up in the first game that comes up in the third yeah this is something as well if if you only ever played them like i did just once through like mass fat one two three once each um the amount of thought they must have put into the whole trilogy while they were working on the first one is like mind-blowing yeah you'd have to have some kind of map some idea of what you're actually this is going yeah because it it's almost better going through again knowing stuff that's happening in the future.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah, and now I actually properly am using the whole dialogue tree is designed around this like investigate option. We are supposed to investigate if you want the option of learning more about the law and stuff. So I'm actually just going through every investigate option and listening to
Starting point is 00:08:44 whatever the nerdy law stuff is. Yeah, I've been doing that too, but I'm actually blown away by how concise the beginning of Mass VET 1 is. Yeah, no, it was what I was trying to get across a few episodes ago on call. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that opening is just amazing to MassFit 1.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah, so quickly do you become, like, familiar with the world? Yeah, it establishes the entire conflict of the universe in that. Yeah, but not in like a forced, like, bad dialogue, exposition-y way. It all feels natural, it's, yeah, it's something special and definitely worth checking out. Yeah, 100%. Nubius Maximus left a comment On a sort of similar topic How often do you chaps
Starting point is 00:09:32 Actually pay attention to the stories of games Way more now No I always pay attention to it I guess it depends on what it's going for If it's clearly going for a mechanics first thing Then I can ignore like a story a little bit Yeah Like you can like play
Starting point is 00:09:56 through a halo campaign and just ignore like the story and just enjoy the gameplay of it. Yeah. But when it's like life is strange or something, you know? Or Mass Effect. Or yeah, where it's all comes down to the, well it doesn't all come down, but it largely comes down to the writing. And if like your life is strange is full of the cringy, you know, fake teen dialogue and stuff like that, it does. I don't know I don't
Starting point is 00:10:27 If I want to play a game This gameplay orientated I will never play a single player game I would just play a multiplayer game You need some kind of hook To get someone into like the story side Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:10:40 But I don't play story games Is the thing Like I've never I've read dead Haven't played that You used to Yeah I used to be like your favourite
Starting point is 00:10:50 You love well you love Red Dead One you love Red Dead One you love New Vegas Yeah Mass Effect Yeah Like those were your games back in the day But now as like an adult
Starting point is 00:11:01 I don't have the time to invest in the story I just want like a just casual experience But it's just like mainly gameplay Like Apex Ati Jorkel Yeah yeah Something like that To answer the question though
Starting point is 00:11:13 I'd say Well like you said Like it depends on the game Like Doom When I was playing Both Yeah that's a good example, actually. I couldn't give less
Starting point is 00:11:23 of a shit about the context because it wasn't about that. Because Eternal had way more cutscenes and tried to do a story stuff. I didn't care at all but I didn't take anything away from the game for me. Yeah, not at all. But on the flip side, Waufenstein you can't not pay attention to
Starting point is 00:11:41 the story because it's so well told and compelling. Yeah, but the gameplay is not as tight or well-designed as Doom, so it's the kind of trade-off. Yeah, it makes up for it in that stuff. Because Sino Productions left one for us. Question for bungalow Commitmenting.
Starting point is 00:11:58 It's just changing the name every week. It makes it so confusing. If dinosaurs never weren't extinct, how would humanity react to them in modern times? Could you have a pet herbivore? How would they affect technology and civilization?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Are dino dinners a possibility? I think the dynos would have been extinct either way because we would have just learned to kill them. Yeah, maybe... I don't think there's a timeline where... Both exist at the same time.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah, I don't think it's... That being said, which dinosaurs could Mike Tyson beat? I reckon we'd, like, eat dinosaurs? We'd probably ride them. Well, it's just like, in that case, it's like we wouldn't have cows. We'd have, like, this dinosaur equivalent that we'd, like, farm and eat. It'd just everything we have now be a place of a dinosaur. Imagine if you could, like, farm titanosaurus's.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I guess they are just, like, chickens. Huge chickens. Yeah, how much, how many people could you feed with one T-Rex? Yeah, but then they're where, so you're not going to be able to farm them as much as any other animal because of the size. No, you don't want to eat the predators anyway, you want the babies. The babies, they're like herbivores, you know? No, that's why you genetically just fucking ruin dinosaurs. Like, you make a T-Rex that, like, his mouth is tiny.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And it becomes a chicken. Yeah. Just a massive chicken. Hmm. Well, if humans and dinosaurs did exist at the same time, it would just be... Hux Vival evolved. Bite them, just wipe them. Yeah, Vin Diesel would just rack them.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah. Barry Blue is going to end this section for us. Well, Battle Passes are quite annoying. I feel like the Master Chief Collection does it well. It doesn't cost extra whatsoever, and you unlock everything as you level up, and every season is accessible. at the same time, they also add really neat new content that don't fuck up the balance
Starting point is 00:13:54 of the game like Cod. It feels like I'm actually earning what I'm unlocking instead of paying money. I do prefer just being able to unlock whatever I want off the menu like in reach but I'd rather have this than typical pay-to-win bullshits. I don't think that would work in Apex or Cod or any of the big battle-past games. I don't think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I think they've adapted it to the games they're in. Like you can't have new content that's going to cost money for a game that is a wee, release and the content you get and already exist in those games and to me with that one it was just like a just too late i'd already played the game so much and then they're adding in these reward systems when you've already played it for like tens of hours it just seems like yeah it feels like wasted time yeah yeah it's like the destiny problem where it's like they fix the systems six months later and it's like i've already spent five months grinding in the old bad system
Starting point is 00:14:46 and i just feel like i've been screwed out of something yeah yeah i'd say the halo one is a bad example, though. Really? Yeah, I think the Battle Pass system only works if it's being paid for. Yeah. There's nothing addictive. I'm not driven to try and like earn points in the MCC one.
Starting point is 00:15:02 As much as we can say as consumers, you've got to consider the people making the game and they're doing it for money. So that system wouldn't work for any companies. But you can't pay for them in the MCC. Yeah, and if you can't pay for it, why not just design something fun? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 You know, the whole design, like is Ruby. the whole design of a battle pass is the time limit it's to extort money from you yeah basically but also that thing where if you buy one theoretically you can use what you make from each one
Starting point is 00:15:32 to get the next one which gives more playtime which makes money yeah which makes you motivated to keep playing that that's why it exists it's like a psychological fuck fest to keep us yeah giving them money you can't make that better than it is
Starting point is 00:15:46 because it is a fucked idea yeah I think they're just experimenting with systems to implement to Infinite. Yeah, you're probably right. If I saw that in Infinite, I wouldn't want to play it. I'd be fine with a normal battle push.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Because remember, the multi-play's free for Infinite. They'll have a BattlePuff. But like this idea where you just buy what you want, yeah, it doesn't make me want to... Because the appeal is that that level 100 thing is what you want. So you play it all season for that thing you want. I think what he means is like the Reach way of doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:18 What's the Reach way of doing it? You have like currency that you build up buy in a store. I prefer that as an alternative. The stuff you buy is also locked behind your level. So like the really high level stuff, you can't use the currency to get until later on. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:33 But it's just a battle pass system for getting the weak system. I don't think just being able to buy what you want, when you want, but it is. I think a mixture of the two would work for Infinite if for the free to play people, they can only use the battle pass to unlock stuff. Yeah. But for people that actually buy the game,
Starting point is 00:16:49 I think they should be given, more cosmetic shit for the Marty Plur? Yeah. Yeah, there is no FOMO side to it, so it's just like... Yeah. Just let it sit.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah. Well, that's housekeeping, guys. The house is now clean and sparkly and gorgeous. Where do we want to go? Where do we want to go with this? Where do you want to go? You can go anywhere, anywhere we want, honestly.
Starting point is 00:17:20 how do you guys feel about just constant rules changing what in regards to life what like specifically the pandemic life or well yeah what's like some
Starting point is 00:17:38 effects you weren't expecting um I wasn't expecting for you know corncast to get up to 42 weeks Yeah That's definitely something
Starting point is 00:17:52 I was not anticipating That's only 10 weeks away from a year Yeah That's fucking Is it really? Yeah 52 weeks in year, isn't it? Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah, Jesus Fucking crazy This year has been shit I mean Like the beginning of the year It's just been like a blur Of just the same day on repeat And now it's May
Starting point is 00:18:15 Like nothing's happened We started We started a lockdown March last year, like by the end of last year we thought oh maybe surely this can't happen again boom in fucking May
Starting point is 00:18:29 in May and we've only just started to come out of it our third one possible fourth on the horizon who knows yeah because I was like reading the news and for once it was the first time I noticed it in like a couple years the headlines were trending weirdly positive and I was like this is
Starting point is 00:18:47 this is weird then the Indian variant I started becoming the headline I guess I just never know with the news side of it like if you're trying to like
Starting point is 00:18:59 maintain some level of happiness you can't be perusing the news 24 seven but how do you stay informed or know what's happening in the world without reading about it do you think it's necessary to stay informed um
Starting point is 00:19:14 no how often does being informed that actually matter or come in as useful during your day-to-day life. Depends to what circles you're in, I guess. Like, if you're a politician, like, you probably should be fucking informed. But as like a casual guy or girl or someone who has, like, just a normal life, like, you know, I go into the office sometimes, you know, and I see my work colleagues, and it's just like none of the news stuff is, like, discussed.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I'm informed about everything because I just Twitter and all that. And it's, like, useless. Who cares? I'm never going to use it. It's just like, I wake up, I go on to it, and it's just like, oh, well, that's another reason to be depressed. Is this news in whatever country? But you don't want to be blind to the world as well at the same time? No.
Starting point is 00:20:02 There is a mix to it. You do want to know what's happening in the world. You want to be up to date on the comings and goings, like, especially during a time like this. Yeah, no, I think it's more necessary than ever. but it's also more depressing than ever yeah severely depressing like Christ I'm not trying to not use Twitter at the moment
Starting point is 00:20:26 because of how fucking depressing it is it's extremely depressing it's like I don't need to see these pictures Twitter is the one social media where I don't think my mood's ever been improved by going on it it's only ever made worse by going onto it
Starting point is 00:20:39 yeah same with Instagram even worse of Instagram I found really you think so if you're confident or happy of your life Instagram Beew Well the thing with Instagram is that you can
Starting point is 00:20:49 The algorithm If you keep looking at shit memes All it's going to show you is shit memes So that That works for me Like on the Explore tab or whatever Yeah But then you've got to see
Starting point is 00:21:01 Does shit memes not like mess of you at all Because I just get annoyed at the shit memes For like being like really shit The repetition Yeah No I'm fine with it It's like it's totally harmless
Starting point is 00:21:16 whereas on Twitter if you follow one person especially now because you get to see like everyone's likes and shit every conversation every comment they make everything so they're going to retweet shit
Starting point is 00:21:33 they're going to like shit and you're going to see it all you know and Twitter is a space where like very rarely do good things get talked about and when they do they're just swamped by the just fucking huge amounts of shit going on. Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah yeah it stopped being fun a long time ago for me like Twitter used to be kind of fun Yeah I still do have fun with it Because it's just like I try to detach myself From normality with it It's just like if I can't understand the language These people are posting in I'm not having a problem
Starting point is 00:22:10 It's just pretty pictures and that works because it's just like oh cool that's a pretty picture yeah well the algorithms are like so designed to kind of promote these audiences like clashing
Starting point is 00:22:23 so you everyone's replying and interacting with posts and stuff like you said like now when you follow someone you just see the followers of the people you follow and shit like it just shows you the stuff you don't even want to see so you just wind up seeing
Starting point is 00:22:39 all the most you know, shocking or controversial stuff so my fee is just full of all this shite from people I don't follow. Yeah, it's just about, like, popularity. It doesn't matter who you follow how you use the app
Starting point is 00:22:54 if someone has a tweet that blows the fuck up you're seeing it. Yeah. And to me, that defeats the point of Twitter. Why have a retweet button? Yeah. If liking can do the same thing sometimes. And there's like a trending tweet section.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah. Oh, that like pops up. Yeah, and constantly, I follow like 150 odd people or something. And constantly, I get these, like, topics recommended to me. It's like, do I not have enough shit? Yeah. Just constantly on this screen. Like, why do I have a topic of, like, Hugh Jackman?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Why is Hugh Jackman topless on a yacht just popping up in my Twitter feed? I get weird things like darks. this is a topic you'd like is this yeah I get that one too like Zelda DreamWorks movies yeah I think
Starting point is 00:23:50 I was listening to a podcast or something and they were saying yeah on the weekend I just don't go on any social media I wish I could do that I don't mind that idea in concept but it's hard to do in practice
Starting point is 00:24:03 because of the addictive nature of them yeah they're incredibly addictive do you guys do that thing that I wish I could kick where when you wake up the first thing you do you go on your phone and you just lay there
Starting point is 00:24:16 until you've scrolled all the way through like all of your social media yeah well I don't do all of them I'll pick a couple normally yeah no I do it as well it's like get up it's like I need to catch up I need to see what's going on so you go on your Twitter you just press the button I don't do I don't do it to scroll up I press the button
Starting point is 00:24:33 so I go to the top and it scroll all the way down through like 200 accounts it's just like fuck Instagram same thing no but if Instagram it's like honestly the stories, honestly what people are doing. It's always like... I really, rarely use Instagram. Mine are
Starting point is 00:24:48 Twitter and recently Reddit. I never go on Instagram. I'm so annoyed by all the Facebook products and like I use WhatsApp like a lot and I wish it wasn't the one that it settled on. And people are like
Starting point is 00:25:05 moving to I think it's called Signal. Which is like what WhatsApp used to be. But it's that thing that's like It's just going to be the same Yeah, the same cycle It's just the same shit It's too big
Starting point is 00:25:17 And then it's bought Yeah Yeah I can't keep up with social media Like you were showing me earlier This TikTok shit right This guy Do you remember his username or anything?
Starting point is 00:25:30 I know I mean This is This is pretty normal For TikTok to be honest Oh TikTok's the one I've managed To avoid But it was
Starting point is 00:25:40 It's a guy where whole gimmick and his whole he's built a like image and career around running on the spot making it look like he's running in slow motion when he's actually just you know standing still he's standing there shout out to buster breezy best fake runner in the world that's his that is that his bio yeah so his whole gimmick is like he's really good at fake running to be fair to the guy he is really good at he's incredibly good at it he's like he does the slow most stuff, so it looks like he's an Apex intro. But like any niche.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And I don't understand, like, why could you not just do that on YouTube? And it would be just as funny, but I guess... Yeah, it's... It must come down to the algorithms. Because you can't fake rum for 10 minutes, hit that prime time. Yeah, true. You can't have the real short stuff as much, I guess. But, no, but you're saying that, you're forgetting YouTube mobile is a completely different experience to YouTube.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Well, yeah. Become the beast. Yeah, YouTube mobile is bizarre. It's got the meme pages that only post memes. It's got the short Instagram videos, whatever it's got. It's like every social media combined. Yeah, and it's better than most of them. I've got a theory that meme pages aren't run by humans.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It's the beginning of the AI up. No, no. Why would someone dedicate what must be a lot of time to uploading pictures, pictures of memes, onto YouTube. Like pictures on YouTube. If people are looking at it, I mean... No, but people...
Starting point is 00:27:18 People do it on like Tumblr, on Deviant Art. No, but it's on Instagram as well, because it's like these... All of the meme pages post the same thing. Mm-hmm. So there's multiple machines just copying each other's algorithm and just... Or just one big machine.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. It runs the whole thing. And this is what's weird. The memes are like an algorithm. You know? Oh, yeah. Memes get, like, morphed for as long as they can
Starting point is 00:27:42 by like it's just the same shit over and over and then it's a slightly new thing but most of the time these pages are all there to be sold they're not there to give you entertainment they're there to make money they're going to be sold. I was going to say that about
Starting point is 00:27:59 Twitter just the way like the marketing thing on Twitter is really strange I had this this guy I think you work because I didn't like the silicon Valley who like knows me from like years ago he like texted me saying
Starting point is 00:28:15 how much for Nataku to sponsor a tweet what fuck you denied a nuttaku what's Nataku I think it's like a hentai game so it's a hentai website like made in Silicon Valley
Starting point is 00:28:31 yeah no like the guy lives in like he has he I guess he knows all these like weird sponsors and just like tries to get YouTubers to like tweet porn hentai links out whatever um i tried to like inquire just to see like i've never like i don't know like what what we're talking about here like what this actually means but i couldn't get any more information out um without like fully committing because i'm not doing that see i would more have you got to lose yeah i guess that's how it were have we talked about
Starting point is 00:29:08 NFTs on corn? Briefly, I think. Maybe. I don't know. What do you have to say about them? I don't really understand it. But they're nothing. There's something. People are talking about it.
Starting point is 00:29:22 They are memes that are sold. Right? Like Twitter Jack, you're like sold one of his tweets, right? Yeah. Like his first tweet. Yeah, but it's gotten to the point where isn't Charlie bit my finger? It's going to be deleted off of YouTube and sold as an NFT. But the thing about that is someone's.
Starting point is 00:29:38 just going to download it and we upload it to YouTube and that's what's going to yeah like NFTs make no sense it's like a receipt that you own something or that you own something but you can't
Starting point is 00:29:50 own it because there are infinite how many people will have downloaded Charlie bit my finger over the years how many meme pages do you think have it in the archives that the first fucking post is the Charlie bit my finger video there must be thousands of re-uploads already on YouTube yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:30:04 that's what they say there as soon as it's online like it's just there forever You can't hide it Especially something that high profile I guess they're just trying to milk it They just want their last bit of Charlie money It's all like combined And it's all intertwined with the crypto currency bollocks
Starting point is 00:30:22 They all come from the same things Why GPU prices are through the roof Yeah No I was I was hoping that was going to level out at some point Hasn't yet But it just seems to be getting like worse It's manic it does feel like we're
Starting point is 00:30:41 rocketing towards the future you know like the cryptocurrency is just a phrase that everyone knows now yeah bitcoin mining everyone just knows what that is it's wacky it's wacky as fuck just call them credits and be done with it
Starting point is 00:30:58 yeah like surely you're gonna start it's gonna get to a point when you can you know you you've just bought the latest card or game and they'll be like well if you're not playing the game if you leave it on we can crypto mine and give you in-game currency that's surely a thing
Starting point is 00:31:12 they must be thinking of that like they will use your console to mine actual crypto currency and give you in-game currency as a fucking yeah well they take like 90% of it and you get the 10%
Starting point is 00:31:26 cryptocurrency spare that go straight into codpoints exactly it's like why isn't this a thing surely Activision must know this EA if you want some investment tips Hit us up. They've already stolen it. Fuck sake.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So I'm on Massafet 2 now. I can't remember if I said I finish 1. Yeah, you blasted through it. You're addicted. You're a gamer. Did you do everything in Massifere 1? Not everything. No, there's no way I'm doing all the side stuff in that game.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I just straight up think it sucks. I think I might. Oh, no, no, no. Really? I do it to experience it, but. It's terrible. I'm pretty sure I've done it all the way through once before. No, you'll do it until you get to, like, one of those planets you land on.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You go to, like, a base. You go in, some bullshit means you die. And then you're, like, taken back, like, half an hour's worth. And you're like, no, I'm just going back to the moment. There's some interesting stuff. I don't know. The only thing I'm curious of is in the first game, they had, one of the biggest, like, background things for the whole series was a bull.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And you go to a ball, and it gives you this whole fucking law thing about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I want to know if they change that. It's like a Prothian ball. Yeah, and it's like portraying the future of you or something. In which one, sorry? MassFet 1.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah, it's in the D.L.C. of 2 as well, I think. It's just like a murky ball. Yeah. It looks like a material, like mercury. Like a big ball of mercury. I don't know what you're talking about. But you do it. When you do it in the first game, it just gives you a paragraph that explains the law.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Really fucking interesting stuff to do with the law of Masfeck. But it just portrays it in a paragraph, a big box. I just wonder if they changed that at all. Because if they made it a cutscene, way more interesting. No, all that stuff's the same. There's loads of weird, like, little descriptions in Massifil. Yeah, I love that shit. I do as well.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's very pen and paper. Yeah, it's really, like, classic RPG shit. Like, there's a narrator sort of thing. Yeah. I do want to found footsteps in the dust. Yeah, yeah. Super cool. I do want to briefly mention as well.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Mass Effect 1 on mouse and keyboard is better for one reason And that's because the hacking minigame is different Oh, what is it on BC? So it's like multiple wheels And you're an arrow And you sort of go round it while other things are twisting And you have to avoid it's like frog it Oh, okay
Starting point is 00:33:55 It's like a mini frogger game Instead of just like, Y, A Eh Yeah, because that just wouldn't be a challenge I get, well it isn't a challenge ever Yeah It's a super boring A frog is a sick game though
Starting point is 00:34:10 Frogger's awesome But I'm I would really just under-restimated this whole thing Like just what they were tinkering with Behind the scenes with this stuff Because I'd forgotten how much Like I'd just adore MassFet 2 You were a huge mass fact too
Starting point is 00:34:28 Like I've never been more obsessed probably With like a piece of media Like a story or something But I'd forgotten about how much I liked it Because of three and the letdown it was And then I was kind of written off Then Andromeda came out I'd forgotten about it all
Starting point is 00:34:43 So jumping into two after one Because the main reason I was interested In the legendary edition was to just see what they did to one Yeah, that's why I was interested as well But then going into two and being like Oh shit Like This is the game
Starting point is 00:34:58 This is how I remember the game being When a few months ago I actually downloaded the original original version onto my series X the 360 version of MassFet 2 and it was a bit like yeah this isn't how I remember it it's not like it feels fucked like the resolution sucks like the frame rate sucks and that's like a lame feeling when you go back and it's like not how you remember but this version is how like how I remember it improves things like it looks so much better the it's the resolution of everything the the graphics of it is so much more detailed and
Starting point is 00:35:34 the gameplay too just having the feedback and shit like just brings it all home for me yeah that's something about mass effect one for me um because if i did play mass effect one original now it's it's trash well i'm tempted to download the 360 version of mass effect one yeah just to have a look at that intro just to see how like muddy and it's it's not just graphically though the graphics of that the only thing I have a bit of a gripe with with Mass Effect one yeah because it it does lose some of the the character that is something I stand by some of the the moodiness yeah the contrast in colors when you make everything just have realistic lighting it's it's sort of wasting the potential of video games where you can have like this totally virtual artistic space
Starting point is 00:36:29 that just couldn't exist no I do see what you mean um but the only thing is you have to think about when that original game came out it would have been 720p if that 30 frames per second if and that game was do you remember how badly it ran when on when it came out um the loading screens the pop in no all that shit is so much better now yeah but i think like that it was it those decisions to have that blurriness to have that moodiness was partially affected by the decision of the of having to mask the look of the yeah Yeah, but it's one of those things where Because they were limited
Starting point is 00:37:08 They ended up making something slightly better Yeah, because of it Yeah, that's definitely a debate in the community at the moment And I'm sure there'll be like modders that go in The PC version and try and get it to look Yeah, it's the same problem with the Dark Souls remaster The Dark Souls remaster is much worse Than this Mass Effect one
Starting point is 00:37:30 But yeah, it just loses this grit yeah but i'd just forgotten how expansive mass spec two is it's so bloody long there's so much to do but they don't it doesn't drag like parts of one no where they just they nailed like the systems in the way they all interact and how you're just doing like a bit of combat for 15 minutes bit of story for another 15 then you're mining planets for another and then it's just perfectly paste in the way it's all designed do you like the planet mining um i'm okay with a planet mining that now that I know that it works. The game can be
Starting point is 00:38:07 kind of overwhelming, I think, if you don't know what's up. Yeah. I remember just playing MassFit 2 when I first got my hands on it. Like, you just have no idea what the scope of it truly is, because it is selling this like space opera, you're jumping around planets, like just
Starting point is 00:38:23 actually how much shit is there in this game. Mm-hmm. And it is like tens and tens of hours of stuff, especially with all like the DLC and shit, because you said you never played any of the ME2 stuff. And like, and you're saying, yeah, I don't remember any of the side stuff being that good.
Starting point is 00:38:39 But ME2 has so much DLC and so much it's really good. Like, did you play the one that has that weird, like, vehicle that you're, like, flying around? Is the Overlord, DLC? Overlord is really good. The only one is the, it's the service,
Starting point is 00:38:55 like, one where you get the flying vehicle, that's terrible. Yeah, that was like the packing. Yeah, but the EA online pass. But in the Overlord, DLC I think you use that vehicle. You do. That's how it ties in and that's actually really fucking the DLCs. It's really,
Starting point is 00:39:07 really interesting, like, subjects it brings... So, yeah, I mean, we touched on this a few episodes ago, whatever, but I'm curious what you'd think playing all that stuff as well. Especially because you hadn't before because I keep finding things
Starting point is 00:39:22 that I never experienced because I'm making an effort to, like, play with characters I never did and do things a bit differently. So I actually hear dialogue and never heard and stuff like that to try to get a new experience. What I'm trying to do is, um, like, actually see if the game parts are good as well.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I've put, I've not put the game on the hardest difficulty, but I've put it on hardcore. Yeah. Whatever. What, what surprised me about Mass Effect 1 is how fun the combat actually is. Yeah. But, you get into a real rhythm at a certain point. Yeah. I mean, even early on, I've, I've not played for very long at all.
Starting point is 00:40:01 but like just the progression everything shit's fun I think the fact that it is unreal isn't it
Starting point is 00:40:12 yeah the rag doll immediately makes shit fun yeah it's awesome you can really like cheese the Geth Walker things when you're in the Mako yeah you just drive into them
Starting point is 00:40:24 yeah just tap their legs and they fall over it's pretty funny yeah it's not perfect by any means but there is fun to be heard and just yeah I respect it so much more now and I think
Starting point is 00:40:40 just the fact that the screen moves when you shoot there's a bit of feedback yeah feedback and your accuracy doesn't just immediately go from perfect to awful yeah it's amazing how much just slight tweaks can improve that whole thing yeah because I was a very
Starting point is 00:41:00 the belief wrongly that it was unfixable. I thought it was that bad originally. No, it's just aged. Yeah. Yeah, it was just that. Yeah, there was something else I was going to say about two, but I can't remember. Yeah, insane. Because I've been playing on insanity. They, for this edition, they've
Starting point is 00:41:18 definitely tweaked the difficulty. Mass Effect 2 is way, way, way, way, way easier on insanity than it was on the 360. because it's been bringing all these memories back of playing it on insanity on the 360 and having these like hair pull out moments
Starting point is 00:41:38 because they were so stingy with ammo for some reason on the 360 version so you had to be so careful of like every shot and it was so difficult it was basically no fun it was really annoying but now I'd almost say it's on the verge of being too easy with how much ammo they rate you with
Starting point is 00:41:57 but you actually get some good combat out of it instead of just that really boring hardest difficulty play style where you're like hiding miles back you just go and then hide into your shields are back and you're like waiting minutes at a time so you actually have proper combat
Starting point is 00:42:12 because I did that just one of the first main points of the game where there's like a I won't say any story thing but I forgot my fucking point was I forgot
Starting point is 00:42:29 I lost it Difficulty I want to say I tried Mass Effects Sorry yeah no because there was There's one mission in Mass Effect 2 On the hardest difficulty That was so ridiculously hard
Starting point is 00:42:43 And it was that mission For those who played it The first time you kind of interact With the collectors in that game It's like a boss at the end of that level And it's on insanity No, no, no, fuck. No, for Alex.
Starting point is 00:42:57 It was like, you're bringing back memories for me. I tried that. I did, I started Mass Effect Free on a hard difficulty. It's in the, it's where you first meet Ashley or Caden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's right there, and it's an open courtyard and there's trucks of fucking boxes. Yeah, yeah. And it fucking floats around.
Starting point is 00:43:12 It's got barriers, shields. It's got like, these laser eyes that just get, just, and like, just aim bought you. I think I did it on not insanity. I did it one below. Mm-hmm. I spent a fucking, like, two hours doing it, died, never played it. I was just like, fuck this, this is dumb. So I did that bit yesterday, and I did it first try on Insanity.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Would you say it's like the perfect level of difficulty then? It's that thing of the first few hours are really hard, but as long as you... Because I know the game so well, I know where to go to get all the upgrades that will help me. Then I do the combat stuff, so I don't know if that's just helping or... And I don't know if ever since playing Apex and just turning you into this, like, aggressive, monster. A goon. Like, you just, like, when I play against, like, the AI
Starting point is 00:43:58 MassFit now, I'm just like, you just figure out what they're capable of and just abuse them. Just abuse what they're capable of. Goon is the way in just life, everything. You just have to find the game. Just goon your way. Yeah, if you could goon your way through life, do it in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah. So, yeah, I'm enjoying MassFet too. I wanted to bring it up again. It's just going to be a mass effect kind of month or whatever, I'm afraid. Yeah, I'm feeling that too. And I'm glad. Yeah, no, I was not expecting to kind of reconnect with this franchise at this point.
Starting point is 00:44:32 No, because I feel like I've been gaslit by Mass Effect 3's ending and then the entirety of Mass Effect Andromeda. Yeah, like, it's funny how much optics, like, really affects stuff like that. Yeah, especially Andromeda. Yeah. I remember, like, starting it and just being like, this fucking sucks. Mass Effect just isn't very good, is it? Yeah. Like, you start convincing yourself.
Starting point is 00:44:54 All it takes is one and John. Yeah. That's one where it's like, it might have been worth just eating the loss on it. Yeah, I think they should have. Because they have, they have killed Mass Effect. They can't make a sequel. Yeah, because they, like, release the trailer for this new one.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Like, months ago. Did anyone? No. We talked about it on Corn. Wait, new what? A new Mass Effect. I didn't know what? When do we talk about...
Starting point is 00:45:20 What? There's a new Mass Effect? What? Yeah, there's like a trailer for it on you. YouTube and shit from months like this is what I mean no one cared because you did not know this is a thing yeah there's like a CG trailer by where announced it
Starting point is 00:45:32 there's a new mass effect Leara is in the trailer I think I can't I might have got that wrong now I feel like I have seen it but I don't think I have this is what I mean like it didn't connect it didn't mean shit because of the Andromeda
Starting point is 00:45:49 hmm I genuinely can't remember. I can't think, yeah. No, when we stop recording, you're gonna, like, search him. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Maybe you just didn't watch it. But I don't think they can fix it. It's pointless. I think what they should have done is Resident Evil 2 remaked Mass Effect 1. Yeah, instead of doing this remaster. Yeah, because then they could remake
Starting point is 00:46:20 the whole trilogy perfectly. Yeah, change the ending in Mass Effect 3. make it actually possible to make a sequel to, because that's what truly fucked it. You can't continue from what Mass Effect 3 gives you. No. And... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Because I went down that rabbit hole again. When I was doing the washing up, whatever, I was watching the indoctrination theory. Because I'd forgotten all about it. Hasn't been on my mind... Like, Mass Effect has been on my mind, but not in this level.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Like, the actual story, the law and everything. Yeah. It'd like ejected from my mind. up until this point. So I've been thinking about the ending a lot and I'm like getting all nervous now because I'm like so into it and where it's like building up to, I know where it does conclude so I want to be like prepared. Fascinating movement though. There was like two like nearly two hour long documentaries that this guy made. Yeah. That he actually is deleted. You can only watch them as re-uploads because he like got too much hate from it or something.
Starting point is 00:47:24 from his eyes, I don't know you should just leave him, fuck but... They're masterpieces. Yeah, it was like such a like kind of nostalgic thing to go back and watch those videos
Starting point is 00:47:36 because it's like from such an old era now yeah, such a different era um because in the first theory video it was before they released the DLC of, um, uh, you know that first well, it wasn't really a DLC
Starting point is 00:47:52 kind of a patch for the ending. It was before, that patch so we were saying like they could fix this so easy if they just do A, B and C, there's so much hope they could, if they they've got a decision here, they can either make this the best franchise ever, the best
Starting point is 00:48:06 story ever or they can make it the worst you know, or this kind of this kind of stuff yeah, yeah it's like hyperbolic or whatever but it's kind of true though. I think I think they shouldn't have changed the ending at all and not said that
Starting point is 00:48:22 the indoctrination theory wasn't real and just stolen it. Yeah. Because it is a more satisfying ending. Or at least not deny it. Yeah. I hate that they denied it. Yeah, because they could have just left it.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Left it like lingering in people's minds. Yeah, and then done this, where they remake Mass Effect 1, Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3. Triple 8th. Yeah. And then just have that as the ending to Mass Effect 3. Boom. And there's like a whole revelation moment.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I don't know. Could you imagine? Yeah. But the three endings you're presented in 3, Well, yeah, because I'd forgotten that Mass Effect 3's script leaked originally, or I don't know if it was a script or the plot outline, some details on the story leaked
Starting point is 00:49:05 which led to them changing the ending of the game to whatever it is now and on top of that, the game was rushed and they did not have the time they needed for that game. Like, I can't believe how quickly they made ME2 like, Sonyi, I think it only came out two years, after...
Starting point is 00:49:25 No way. Actually, it might have been three. It might have been three. No, MassFake 2 came out in 2012. No, it was 2010. MassFet 2 was 2010. It was not 2012. Yeah, because Massifet 3...
Starting point is 00:49:39 Remember, MassFit 3 originally was going to come out in 2012. It was pushed to 2013. No, it did come out in 12. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was delayed, though. Because EA wanted that shit out quick. Yeah, fucking idiots. They've ruined it.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah. They've ruined it, and then what do they do to fix it? Mass Effect Andromeda. Another rushed piece of shit. Yeah. It's fascinating, but kind of sad. At least you got Mass Effect 2 out of it, though. And 1.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And 1. Both great. The 2, they like nailed the whole formula a bit. Well, I've got disappointing news. What? Some stuff's been leaked about the new battlefield. instantly no interest in it they're making
Starting point is 00:50:28 like modern times which is near futuristic there's like leaked robot dogs it's like advanced warfare like ghosts type stuff which is like is it like because there was that battlefield game that was like robot max fighting 2142
Starting point is 00:50:44 that was the old one one of the old ones yeah that has like a cult following because it's actually like properly futuristic and it's all these unique game modes but I don't think the new battlefield is going near that they're just like it's modern but it's not it's like futuristic yeah I've heard a lot of shit about this being like a future
Starting point is 00:51:00 I thought near future fine have like those unless the robot dogs are like the real robot dogs that exist it could be that's the thing that could be creepy that would be yeah that could be fine I'm not sure like the screenshot looks it doesn't look like futuristic I've seen a tiny screenshot
Starting point is 00:51:18 and it looks like the vehicles and stuff are all sci-fi yeah sci-fi shit. I just, that's, like, I don't give your shit. They need to, well, they needed to, like, play it safe. I don't know, like, they just didn't go through, like,
Starting point is 00:51:34 all the major wars or whatever, like, they would do it. They didn't need to. They should have, they should have, battlefield, bad company to, Vietnam, is one of the most, like, praised battlefield things ever. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Just do a battlefield. I thought that was where they were going. I could have sworn, like, after World War II. They did, but they did World War I, they could have done, like, the Korean War II. or something. Which is a thing nothing, it's never been done in a major game.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah. It's just like modern warfare, the recent one, we've talked about it loads, we've praised Codd for all it's done. It's modern, but it's not futuristic. It's modern now,
Starting point is 00:52:08 but it's not this futuristic, and it nails it and it's fucking huge, and everyone loves modern warfare. Why can't Battlefield do that? They've made so many fuck-ups recently that it's like, how many more can they do? Yeah, like going back to the EA fuck-up optics thing.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Mm-hmm. They really killed it with that. It was the sequel to Battlefield 1, wasn't it? Yeah, Battlefield 5, the trailer. They killed the whole game with that one trailer. Yeah, no, that was it, it was that trailer. And then their, like, retaliation to the people that thought it was stupid, that there was a woman with a robot arm in World War II.
Starting point is 00:52:43 If anything, it's just kind of disrespectful. The robot arm thing. Like, that was weird, really weird. It's like they nailed it. They nailed it really good with Battlefield 1. Yeah. It was just World War I The trailer, the way the game opened
Starting point is 00:52:56 They fucking nailed it So what do they do? They take this They take what they did with Battlefield Run This realism grounded And they made it just fucking stupid In my Battlefield 5 Well I mean like they obviously took
Starting point is 00:53:07 Liberties with the World War I setting Like had all these prototype weapons That weren't actually used But you know makes for fun game Yeah But like robot arm Really? It's like given all of the things
Starting point is 00:53:22 that happened in World War II it's huge there's so many aspects of World War II there's never been like said or done and you choose that you could have World War II as the setting and make tens of games surely yeah
Starting point is 00:53:35 they did that's what first person shooters whatever for like 10 years and it's just like why would you pick that why would you pick this kind of weird but if you want to just don't make it World War II have like this weird
Starting point is 00:53:49 else world like shooty game where like it's that sort of era but you can take liberties and have your own artistic Valky Chronicles that is World War II focus but it does its own things
Starting point is 00:54:03 it's not set in fucking in the world it's like its own thing and it works it works these huge fucking tanks that are like five stories tall and dumb fucking cannons it works
Starting point is 00:54:13 I'm way more interested in dice making a battlefront three and actually just doing it properly because two is like in a space now it's like man if this was the game that came out you've, like, launched. Yeah, and then expanded on that.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah. See, the thing with the Battlefront three, with the success of Fallen Order, respawn are going to be, might be pushed in, therefore it will probably be good. Because respawn, they are the golders.
Starting point is 00:54:40 There's also just so much style of stuff now. You could have, like, bad batch content in your, which I've been watching a little bit of. Out of 10? I wouldn't say, you can really give it an out of ten rating yet because there's only been like two or three episodes
Starting point is 00:54:56 Oh, is it releasing like that? Yeah, yeah. It's pretty good. I like the gimmick of like the clones being the main characters of the bad batch are like clones from Star Wars that were like, went a bit wrong.
Starting point is 00:55:14 The bad batch? Yeah, the bad batch. But they're also like, I don't know, they're quite distinct. it's definitely it's quite kiddie in ways yeah
Starting point is 00:55:26 but even more so than some of the clone war stuff I've seen but it's kind of sick I'm just glad people are getting it and like Faloni's written it
Starting point is 00:55:37 he's got his fingers on it he's the guy now he's the guy he's the guy yeah if you want to make new Star Wars stuff you'd have to have his fingers on it because he's like the weird
Starting point is 00:55:47 Pada one to George did he actually, like, work with George Lucas? Yeah. On the Clone Wars. That makes a lot sense. I think, I think the story goes that George plucked him. Really?
Starting point is 00:56:02 I think. Because I think he was on Last Airbender or something. Because he's on the first season of three on The Last Air Vender. And he does some of the best episodes, I think, from season one, from memory. Yeah. And then did a great job on Clone Wars
Starting point is 00:56:19 and just became the Padawan master. But are you not concerned that the Star Wars fatigue given they've just come out of a trilogy and all that?
Starting point is 00:56:28 I would say we're already in Star Wars fatigue. I feel like we're in post Star Wars fatigue. Yeah. I think episode nine was the peak of Star Wars fatigue.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And now it's like... That was the point everyone just agreed. Yeah, nobody gave a shit. Yeah. We don't want Star Wars if it's going to be this. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:47 You know. But we talked about that plenty. Before we go into the second half I did want to shout out a movie Jim and I saw yeah. That being Akira Kurosawa's
Starting point is 00:57:02 ran um gosh where do you even begin yeah well it's a classic samurai film from 85 I think it was yeah yeah I think so
Starting point is 00:57:18 um based on King Lear Shakespearean work I didn't know that going into it and I was sort of expecting a somewhat schlocky
Starting point is 00:57:32 cowboy-esque samurai film simple hero villain type thing yeah and this film is like existential crisis type shit just everything about it though is incredible
Starting point is 00:57:48 yeah it's masterful even just like on a production level I was I was turned on to this movie it would have been a few years ago now when Ralph the movie maker he uploaded his Ralph Recommends video on this movie
Starting point is 00:58:02 and the imagery was burned into my my retina after seeing just a few clips from his video and I mean it applies to the whole movie yeah like it's such a vivid colour palette and the costumes and the environments
Starting point is 00:58:17 that they jump around to. I was saying to you, um, you never think for a minute the time period of, of when the film was made. It was made in the 80s, obviously, but it feels timeless. It feels like, it feels like the era they represent. Yeah, it almost felt like a documentary, like somehow they'd got a camera brought it back to that time and just filmed. It was that meticulous and these like, just these dense shots of hundreds of people all in like this armor, like, recreating, these battles is actually stunning
Starting point is 00:58:52 and the story of course like if you're basing it off like Shakespeare work you've got like a backbone the strongest backbone possible to work off but the way it's adapted into like Japanese culture is so fascinating because I remember in year I think it was year nine like trying to study King Lear and Shakespeare
Starting point is 00:59:14 and just not being able to connect with it I couldn't I think it was something to do with being that age and just the way it's written it's so flowery and like you don't even understand english like really yourself at that point so i could never connect but when when you see the story presented in this way the main character is just such a tragic like like gut punch the um yeah i don't spoil anything but like it has such an interesting journey with that main character And I was, like, trying to, like, guess where it was going, oh, this must be the payoff here.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Oh, no, it's going a different direction that's way more interesting than I ever could have thought. Yeah, it was masterful. It was such a, like, joy. Yeah, and it's one of those films that when it ends, at first you're just like, what? No, no, no, no, no. You can't do this.
Starting point is 01:00:14 But after, like, 30 seconds, you were like, fucking hell. It's just like so genius Yeah, no So I think that's the next The next one to jump into It's the various Samurai Flips Mirasawa movies
Starting point is 01:00:30 It's been a Big spot of mine that I needed to fill in It's all the old Japanese cinema There's so much of it There's so much great shit to find Have you ever delved out of anime And into live action Japanese film No
Starting point is 01:00:47 No, because you can't watch them because you can't get them. Well, I'm saying that, yeah, the only reason I watched it, well, one of the main reasons I watched it is because on the Amazon BFI player, whatever it's called, at the moment, a bunch of Curisar movies are on it for streaming. So that's a good way of doing it. There is a whole fucking bunch, like, really interesting Japanese movies I want to watch. But I just can't, it's like, I think I've spoken about it. about it before like this
Starting point is 01:01:18 I can't remember the name Yakuza one that's Itchy the killer Oh yeah I've been wanting to watch that But it's just like to watch it I have to buy a 10-pound description to a horror specific streaming service I want to watch it because it's like
Starting point is 01:01:32 Looks vivid and looks fucking Yeah yeah But I'm not paying I'm not adding another subscription To watch one movie There's loads of others There's loads of like cool gangster movies Like Yakuza ones and whatnot
Starting point is 01:01:42 Just can't watch Because there's so much there But it's just can't I can't watch them. I did see, though, that the creator of Berserk passed away. Yeah. Kentu O'Meua. Do you think I'd like that?
Starting point is 01:01:57 Because everyone always brings up Dark Souls when it comes up. Was it like a huge inspiration or something? Berserk's absolutely a huge inspiration. It's inspired like every single Japanese thing with swords in, basically. Really? Like Final Fantasy. What's the hook? What is, it's Guts story.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Guts is the main character, and it starts off. as him, you know, as a young merciline, it goes through his life and his backstory and what happens because there's the golden era arc, golden arc, I think it is, where that is the first arc and how it ends is why you're like
Starting point is 01:02:31 fuck, I need to see this through. I need to see fucking guts do this. So it's knights fighting each other? Is there like a fantasy element? No, there's a fantasy element. Yeah, very much fantasy. There's gods basically. There's like demon gods. I can't, I'm Berserk fans who are like, what the fuck, James?
Starting point is 01:02:47 Isn't why I've never seen anything from it So I don't even know Like with like death note or some shit I know what the hook is You know the book It kills people I don't know what it is It's a guy with a huge sword
Starting point is 01:02:58 And he like fights monsters sometimes Yeah To get the hook You need to see You need to see the last episode Of the first of the golden arc Because it's just like It all makes sense
Starting point is 01:03:09 Everything you just You just know And I can't spoil it It's just like fuck I've seen any of it I've watched like four episodes on YouTube
Starting point is 01:03:20 there's no particular reason why I stopped it's just like what it's always decent with Berserk you've got the first original series which is from like the 90s it's quite cheap animation it's got its style it's beautiful soundtrack mind the meme soundtrack it's super meme but you've also
Starting point is 01:03:41 it's difficult to watch unless you're a Bersert fan already but there's a free movie that recap the same arc, they both cover the same arc. It's modern, the fight scenes are all CG, so they're bitter, but all the actual close-up shots are hand-drawn, and it covers the same thing really easy to watch, and it is just the same, and it is also very good as well. I'd honestly be tempted to get the manga.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I've read the manga, the art is fucking beautiful. The way he draws... Yeah, I've seen a bunch of... I've seen pages from that and it does look impressive. The shading he does on the face and the armour, it's just like, how the fuck did you do this? This is fucking mental. I really like Berserk.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I own the limited edition of fucking Blu-Way and DVD. I want to get some of the manga. I really like it, but it's just like trying to read the manga, it's like it's so long and it's not... Yeah, that's the only barrier to entry. Oh, was it like seasons and seasons type shit? It's like infinite, isn't it? It wasn't finished, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:04:44 It wasn't finished, wasn't it? actual years on a boat in the manga at nine physical years for one boat journey like it's I'd be curious to see what the jailings say berserk is crazy I think you should watch it it's crazy
Starting point is 01:04:59 I love berserk if enough people tell me it's worth it like they did for Avatar yeah the thing is there's no there's like nothing to lose they're 20 minute episodes that's just and they're all on YouTube the only thing that stops me is just when it's not on a streaming service I already have.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Because when it is, then it's like, well, Avatar's there, I'm just gonna fucking... It's just so convenient. That's what I mean, though, like YouTube... Yeah, I didn't realize it was all on YouTube. Yeah, I just randomly went... James mentioned that I should watch it. Yeah, because I was watching it at the time.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I was like, at work, it's just like, berserk work. Because it's easy. You'd be surprised, like, how many movies are on YouTube? Like, full movies. And it's going to get better and better with that stuff with the, just the older... The older movies that get into the public domain that would just be allowed to be on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:05:54 It's actually becoming quite a good resource for finding movies. It's how I watched a Raw, I think it was, that weird movie with all the lions and tigers and leopards and shit that these mental people had like in this... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, people know what I'm on about. Well, I'm just trying. checking what the movies are streaming
Starting point is 01:06:15 on. And Netflix has popped up. Oh, is it on there? It might be on the American ones. You might be able to. Oh, yeah, yeah. But the thing with Berserk, it's much like fucking Andromeda. It had a recent anime that was fucking all-CG, really cheap
Starting point is 01:06:35 C-G. It was the meme. It was just like everyone was slagging off the recent Berserk thing. But it's like, if you watch the movies, I don't know people's reception on them but they're the easiest way to watch it they're all like two hours long free movies boom then you get to the last scene and it's just like you're fucking like getting like fucking mad and it's it's great just watch berserk just read berserk because that man was a fucking legend and his his art his work deserves to be appreciated there is something to be said about these long form stories that
Starting point is 01:07:13 often come to fruition in in TV shows there is something about it where you can just properly really with a lot of depth explore so many different fucking ideas in a way that you just come on in a movie I find it to be like the most satisfying way of because you're combining like a movie is two hours of like
Starting point is 01:07:37 you have a lot of room in there to explore a lot of things but you do have only two hours you're limited but in a show you have so much room to explore so many ups and downs of different characters and just really delve deep into whatever you want to Yeah I think it's a great way for you to go on an arc with a character Because you have so much time to be with that character You can sort of learn to agree with them
Starting point is 01:08:06 Yeah And understand why they're doing things That might be wrong but you're still like on their side and there's such a skill to um and this is on my mind because of that amazon prime show invincible of like establishing a story and having like the greater narrative like hook and then having smaller stories going on to like distract you from the greater one um it's just so satisfying the way that they can come together and that's a good show i'd recommend um yeah i need to watch I knew what else
Starting point is 01:08:43 What? We're jumping around like crazy We're just going We are This is on sort of Annamakers Peserk I've almost
Starting point is 01:08:52 finished season two of Jojo Oh cool Yeah We've had loads of questions We're asking for updates on that I can't fucking I love fucking Jojo so much I hate myself
Starting point is 01:09:02 That I was like Ooh Jojo For so long Because I'd been on fucking 4chan anime boards And it's just like Ew Jojo Jojo is fucking sick man
Starting point is 01:09:11 It's so fucking cool. So what? Do you like it more now than season one or? No, I get season two's like done as fuck and I love it. Like I like because I'm trying to watch it because I used to watch anime on in bed on my on my phone on this, you know, it's tiny screen. So what I'm trying to do now is I'm trying to watch it on the big screen in my lounge, but my parents aren't home Monday morning or when I'm off work. And I've had such better time by doing that. so I can only watch it at certain days of the week
Starting point is 01:09:43 but between then I'm like listening to the opening and I'm just like fuck man Jojo yeah you can't watch you on the phone you just watch the opening watch Star Dust Crusaders the opening it fucking pops what do you watch it on? It's on Netflix really? Oh is it?
Starting point is 01:10:00 Season 1 and 2 on Netflix I didn't realize it was on Netflix I might watch it then maybe I'll give it a show no honestly I'll just show you the opening after this is done and you will get it It's so fucking good. Okay. Well, we've been rambling on for a bit.
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Starting point is 01:11:28 JAR media. Leave us a comment in the top thread, which will be JARCAST episode X questions. And we will do our very very best to answer your lovely questions. And every time you post Dingle Day, for every single time you say Dingle Day, I will slap James once like this.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Or Dingle Day in the comments. Dingle Day. Every dingle day we get. Every single dingle day. James gets one slap per Dingle Day. So head down to the comments and have a dingle day. Irresponsible Gajun is going to start us off. If the jar boys with the crew of a World War two bomber, what would their roles be?
Starting point is 01:12:11 Pilot, bombardier, ball turret, gunner, etc. No, the bull... See, the bulltor gunner, position in one specific American plane was underneath the proper bull toot, and that's the one you don't want to be in. Yeah, the most expendable person
Starting point is 01:12:27 gets to go in the bull turret. Because if the hydraulics in the plane failed from getting shot, you can't withdraw we're in for landing, so you just get crushed to death as the plane landed. Yeah, but also, like, if you're bombing a place, and they're shooting up at the plane you're in a glass ball
Starting point is 01:12:42 beneath the plane so you're just getting shredded so I'll volunteer for the ball I'll take the ball no because you got the puck I don't know how many are there I watched like a weird YouTube video of like a turret gunner
Starting point is 01:12:57 being like interviewed I think it was one of those like lad by Billy type videos or whatever you're saying like yeah you've got to like switch your mind off at a certain point because like the people you're gunning down and like a fucking a being obliterate before your eyes and you've got to sort of check out at a certain point.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Was this the AC130 guy, the Winnie the Pooh? That sounds right, yeah. Yeah, it was a war veteran like Gunner interviewed in VR chat and he's Winnie the Pooh. It's like the darkest thing. Yeah, it's like one of those algorithm videos where it was. Yeah, I've seen it on my feet. Yeah, everyone's seen it recommended. Yeah, I actually started watching it so it was like funny.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Winnie the Pooh Yeah, I watched the whole thing Or Kermit the Frog or something And yeah I watched like five minutes of it And I was like, this is just like It's really dark Dark and sad
Starting point is 01:13:49 Yeah So I went off it But it is like It's a well-made video Hmm Back to the question I'll be the pilot then Because I'm good at flying things
Starting point is 01:14:02 And driving things Someone of us has got to be good At dropping bombs Where they need to go Who's the turret guy Jamie's the bull bull turret guy yeah I'm bull turret what's even left for me to do
Starting point is 01:14:15 bombardier you drop the bombs Is that what the bombardier does I guess Bombadier How do they control that Do they have like a lever It's like a sight line You sit in it and it's a sight line And it's like
Starting point is 01:14:27 So far ahead that when you get to it In your sights you drop them And then they're falling You just sit there and kill Or you can be like navigation Like you know There's loads of position Or you can be a co-pilot
Starting point is 01:14:38 You know It's a bummer. Well, actually, on this topic, tighter than Bark on, has a question. Hey, boys, I saw Saving Private Ryan recently, because it was leaving Netflix in the USA. It was such a well-made war movie. It reminds me of how much James loves that movie. Made me wonder, what are some of your guys' favorite war movies? Cheers, mates.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Well... I happened to re-watch that movie a few months ago, because I saw it there on Netflix. It is very good. It's very... I just like the concept of the group, the rag-tag group that has to defend against the odds that they just absolutely should never be able to win against. It does come together really well at the end.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah. It is hard to beat. Yeah, as like a movie that's pure spectacle, it is the best. It's just like, if you want... Vin Diesel. Carries the film on his shoulders. If you want something that's pure visual,
Starting point is 01:15:35 that's the best one. But if you want, obviously, if you want, something that's got a bit more meaning it's like Apocalypse Now, full metal jacket I always forget the one that Platoon, that is an incredibly good film Yeah, I'm still I'm still wanting to watch Apocalypse now
Starting point is 01:15:51 Because it's like, I want to watch Apocalypse Now and Platoon I've never seen them Yeah, um Yeah, Platoon is up there Um Yeah, Apocalypse Now Um This is gonna sound lame but
Starting point is 01:16:04 Even that's only a portion of the film I think Forrest Gump really yeah that whole I suppose it does have war involved in it yeah the the Vietnam bit and then the way it continues throughout the movie like post war
Starting point is 01:16:16 with a lieutenant Dan that whole shit it emotionally just hits home um enough one that I have seen which I do like is Black Hawk Down yeah you used to be obsessed with that very good very good movie
Starting point is 01:16:32 it's like there's so many incredible war movies that I just haven't seen like you know RAN is on here apparently yeah like The Deer Hunter Finn Red Line We were soldiers
Starting point is 01:16:48 there's loads of incredible war movies Have you seen Dunkirk? Yeah I was on the cinema Yeah of course I thought would that be up there No That's visually incredible
Starting point is 01:17:00 Yeah I only saw that once I've actually got it on 4K I need to rewatch it Yeah I only think that movie like saying Pry of Mine has likable characters Dunkirk is only visuals
Starting point is 01:17:11 It's only good at visuals It's like there's nothing else going Yeah because that's why That's right That's why I didn't rewatch it Because I heard it isn't as effective On like the home screen Compared to in the
Starting point is 01:17:19 I saw it in the cinema And you know They're on the beach And the dive bombers are coming in It's screaming It's so loud Yeah That's why you watch that movie
Starting point is 01:17:28 I'd never What is she doing No stop doing that on the cast That is minging What have you been doing? She's like licking her asshole and then just breathing everywhere. She licked her ass on and then her like this splutter. It like really smells now, but, so.
Starting point is 01:17:46 This is why we don't want you on here. Pays got dingled. Dingle brad. Yeah, dinglebrat. My answer would be, um, come and see is a war movie that, um, I recommend it for Sardonicast. It's like a Russian war movie. It's really fucked. Come and see? Wait, no, I think I remember, I've been told
Starting point is 01:18:09 The poster's like the little boy with the... Yeah, come and see. It's about like war trustees, isn't it? Come and see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It didn't, like, there was difficulties of it being made, apparently. Oh, yeah, the Russian government, I didn't want it to happen.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Yeah, the backstory's fascinating for that one. Yeah, no, I do, that's another one I need to see. Yeah, there was a period where I was avoiding them because I just found them so... Depressing. Deeply depressing, but... like humans and war just go hand in hand
Starting point is 01:18:38 you can't really ignore it at a certain point no does Star Wars count yeah like that he does like the originals Jonathan SVG 11 has one for you Jim
Starting point is 01:18:51 it's the poo breath getting to you yeah it's fucking getting to me as well she's panting as well yeah it's awful did Jim ever finish community I'd love to hear his quick thoughts on the series as a whole
Starting point is 01:19:02 also Mr Robot Um Yeah, I did finish Mr. Robot Um, community I can't remember if it was season four or five I just fell off it You got to the shit bit
Starting point is 01:19:13 Yeah But I'm pretty sure I pushed I pushed past the shit bit To where it got kind of good again But I normally lose steam by then as well Because I was rewatching it around the same time You're watching it for the first time
Starting point is 01:19:28 And I always fall off once it gets shit In the off season There was like a golden age of it, the first three seasons. One to three, yeah. It's like Arrested Development. Hmm. Yeah. I don't think
Starting point is 01:19:41 it ever got as bad as Arrested Development. As what Arrested Development turned into. I found out recently there are like hordes of people that like think the Netflix seasons are like underrated. I think they're really bad, the
Starting point is 01:19:56 arrested development. They're not funny. No. You're like never laugh. They're so fucking awkward and weird. yeah but even with the bad seasons of community the cast does
Starting point is 01:20:14 sort of carry it a bit and that's why the show starts falling apart in my opinion is because the cast starts leaving yeah yeah the best characters just there was a really weird bit just before I stopped watching
Starting point is 01:20:28 where I noticed that in a certain episode Chevy Chase is like green screened into a scene. Oh really? Yeah. It's like a shot reverse shot, but he's obviously like not there. That's awkward.
Starting point is 01:20:43 And when that happened, it was like... That's a real problem in Arrested Development. Yeah. In that weird Netflix season. Yeah, yeah. Really bizarre. Yeah, I'd never made that connection, but they are oddly linked in that way where they went.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Well, Mr. Robot, though, because you finished that one's ago would have been at this point. Mr. Robot is probably in my top three, maybe top two best TV shows of all turn. Damn. I didn't realize it was that high for you. It was a show that was so good to me. It became like a part, especially in lockdown, like a part of my life.
Starting point is 01:21:20 And when it ended, I felt like, well, no, I feel that. I definitely feel that when I'm like, when I have a new, like, story, when I've got my new story, when I'm like, when I have the, like, when I have the wire. or something when I've got my avatar you feel like you've got your purpose while you're just going through the story getting all the beats and then it ends and you feel like it's something lost.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah, especially in ending like Mr. Robot that's incredibly melancholy. It's so melancholy. You think so? It's the definition of melancholy. Because
Starting point is 01:21:57 it's not sad but you've lost something. you know um yeah i think it's a must watch and it's a show that i'm sure would be talked about more if it wasn't like early amazon prime do you think so you can give it it was on like netflix or something yeah or HBO yeah i could see that but it everything about it it's got this this perfect tone it's got this perfect tone that's like it it
Starting point is 01:22:31 It knows when to add levity, but it never takes away from when it's being serious and shit. Yeah, masterpiece, straight up. I don't think there is even a bad episode that I can think of. Maybe this is why we never have dogs on the cast anymore. Yeah, they're fucking annoying. Stop! They just sit there, just like, licking her entire body. She's licking the floor where...
Starting point is 01:22:59 She's just licking the carpet. I don't have assholes though He's just fucking ass floor That's so crazy Should be gay Left a comic course Do you guys get annoyed when Americans refer to you as being British
Starting point is 01:23:14 Do you have any preference between the labels British and English It used to annoy me Yeah I remember when I was like a teenager It used to annoy me I'm not British, I'm English I'm actually English though It's the same fucking thing
Starting point is 01:23:28 Yeah I don't care Yeah, I mean, I'm, I prefer Britain as a thing that includes Stop, genuinely stop it, stop it Stop it Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha She's so gross You sloppy fucker No, no
Starting point is 01:23:58 I think discretion needs to be turned the opposite way round How so? Because I've been called racist before because I referred to an American as an American What do you mean? Yeah, I called an American
Starting point is 01:24:11 an American And they called me racist What? What were they meant to be called? A Floridian I don't know Like who actually Like people
Starting point is 01:24:22 From the United Kingdom Why does it matter of Yeah I don't give a shit I think I prefer Britain as a thing as opposed to England. I think Britain is a much better catch-all.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Flip-flops has one for us. What games do you guys think utilise the medium of video games best in order to tell their story? Speck-ups line. Simple question. Answer, that's it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I'm trying to think of games where you actually cannot experience anything like it without it being a video game Speckops line I can't add to that because I don't know about specups no it is it is an answer why because it's your involvement in private walkers well my problem my problem is that I feel like that story would still be fine and work
Starting point is 01:25:24 without being a video game like it's still like interesting Yeah, that's the thing it could Whereas like I don't know if it fully applies But I think of the way Red Dead 2 The way with the map And the way the map
Starting point is 01:25:38 Kind of reacts See no I don't think it's fair Because Just because we've just gone from Spackrofts to Red Dead They're in two completely different eras of gaming Where gaming's become so much more advanced But I think it's more possible to make games They're only terrible through games
Starting point is 01:25:55 Yeah I'm trying to think of the media It depends because, like, uh, Bioshock, obvious answer. The, the story it's telling is about the medium of games. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But it doesn't necessarily utilize the fact that it's a game to put you in that position. Mm-hmm. But it, but it, also it does. It is a story that can't be told in any other medium.
Starting point is 01:26:21 No, it wouldn't work. I feel like companies like Rocksteady are quite good at, no. Um, uh, birth of the wild. That just wouldn't work at all. Um, the stories. It depends what you mean by story. Because there's like the story of that game, which is trash. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Or like the stories that you make through experiencing. Is that like a, uh, is that considered like a bad take that like the cut scenes in that game? No, everyone agrees. Yeah, okay, good. Shit. No, um, when I played it again, I had to change it to the Japanese voice. voice acting or subtitles
Starting point is 01:26:58 to make it bearable See that's probably why I swear I went wrong I went for the fucking Yeah you should have done that You're used to reading subtitles Yeah I'm a proper weave Um
Starting point is 01:27:07 Definitely Not games like the Last of Us Yeah because they're They're trying to be more cinematic Yeah They're trying to be movies Of TV or miniseries I think like the old
Starting point is 01:27:20 Or still The cod games For the most part The Last of Us games Uncharted They're kind of reductive To what a video game can be What about something like Mass Effect then Where it's almost like
Starting point is 01:27:36 The logical next step of your like Choose Your own adventure books or something like Yeah I think Mass Effect is good But I'm sure you could make a Mass Effect movie work Well Now but the whole like choice Is part of it
Starting point is 01:27:52 Yeah it is Because I've never been down with this this like mass effect movie i think that's an awful idea person no i'm not saying it should be done but i think if video games like in an alternate dimension video games never existed and mass fake could exist i think the universe could be put into a book or a film i feel like there is like a better example of i i think the witcher three is a better example of the choice thing being integral because it's not a case of i'm going to be a good guy for this run i'm going to be a bad guy for this run
Starting point is 01:28:25 because I'm doing renegade on my mass effect thing and like you are just straight up a fucking asshole you're like a monster
Starting point is 01:28:33 a despicable person even in one like there was this this mentally ill guy in the first level and I just knocked him out I just punched him because he was
Starting point is 01:28:44 annoying Shepard like yeah he's he's pretty mustache twirling yeah he's a terrible guy but yeah
Starting point is 01:28:50 the Witcher that's been I say that It's been, I don't think this question, like New Vegas, you can't make that of anything else. Yeah. It's New Vegas. Yeah, totally. Because New Vegas is sort of like with the Mass Effect where it's almost like a future and adventure.
Starting point is 01:29:08 But even more so. Like you can't, how can you adapt a New Vegas story to like a TV? You fucking can't. I think New Vegas is like pushed so far into the cheese your own adventure thing that it's like become its own thing. You cannot adapt whatever they were doing. with like defeats the point like adapting it but at the same time
Starting point is 01:29:28 there's what Fallout 4 you could fucking easily adapt because it's got none of New Vegas like easily just main story boom yeah totally but um the question was about
Starting point is 01:29:39 utilising games as a medium right utilize the medium of video games best in order to tell their story yeah it's such an obvious I'm trying to think of like games that achieve a story without relying on breaking the player experience
Starting point is 01:29:53 down to cutscenes that are mimicking movies. I'm thinking more like the ending of Arkham Knight where it was like an interactive, you know, you remember the way that... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Rocksteady are incredible at that sort of thing. But to go back to The Witcher, what's surprising to me is that...
Starting point is 01:30:19 I've read like three of the books. Mm-hmm. And the games, specifically three, do a better job than a TV show at adapting, like, that character. And you do feel like that character when playing The Witcher 3. Yeah, I guess, um, how do you feel about games like inside or limbo or something like that? Or even Dark Souls where Dark Souls, I think Dark Souls, Sekereoos, it's like the, I do think Sekira. It's the pinnacle of, um, like there is no, uh, what's that fancy game journalist word?
Starting point is 01:31:04 Oh, pseudo-narrative dissonance. Yeah, there's none of that because the story is built around it being a video game. But it's also a good story. So, yeah, Sekra is a good one because you, you can just ignore the story completely. Mm-hmm. But there is all the, all the clues to contextualize. the world around either. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Yeah, I don't think it's crucial for for games to tell a story in a way that embraces like the way as video games can tell stories. I don't think you have to have choices.
Starting point is 01:31:41 No. Yeah, I'll have to think on that one, to be honest. There's something in the back of my mind that feels like is screaming at me but I can't find what it is right now. You know, one actually is Resident Evil 2. Really? Why? Because you feel like you are trapped in a horrible place and you are...
Starting point is 01:32:07 It's just the fact that it's so efficient at scaring you, even though the consequences are nothing, essentially. Like true horror. You are always motivated, though. You always feel like you're motivated. yeah yeah yeah and uh resident evil eight even like and seven yeah they work in that way and uh a game i brought up ages ago uh dark wood mm-hmm that is yeah it's like a perfect um mesh of story and game it makes you do shitty things
Starting point is 01:32:51 because like that's what you would have to do it's the only way you can progress and yeah because that reminds me of something like papers please yeah no that that is the peak that's the best utilization of story told through a video game I've ever played really yeah without a doubt yeah it is a gene it's just something about finding like the simplicity, the angle
Starting point is 01:33:19 the simple angle to get you in and then making it more complex. Just the idea of making the video game a job. Mm-hmm. Like it makes so much sense and like... Yeah. It's a fascinating
Starting point is 01:33:35 question though and it's what is so interesting about video games to me is that you can just do like movie shit if you want. You can do that or you can do something that like no one's ever even conceptualized before. You can use some crazy shit no one's even thought of and both are like legitimate and respected within the same industry it's cool it's very yeah i don't think we're interesting i don't think we're anywhere near
Starting point is 01:33:59 um like what video games can do what they're capable of yeah yeah i think we've scratched the surface yeah because i was thinking a bit of control which is a game i played early this year and that game gets like truly like wacky and weird and like they they just do not care about any restrictions they just do whatever they want and that is really really fun real existing person has an interesting one I recently watched your old video on Morty Press, and I remembered that in a previous cast you mentioned how that character was based on an awkward friend of your parents or something. The representation of this person seemed a bit cruel, you know, saying things like nobody attended his funeral, and I was just wondering if you could clear some things up about this guy. If you really was as weird as you portrayed him, or if it's just a childish exaggeration of reality, this isn't a pressing question by any means. I just felt the video in the background story was fascinating. Have a nice day. So, see, I wasn't involved in Maltipest, so...
Starting point is 01:35:03 That was just the you and me. Yeah, that was just, we're like walking for one day. I just filmed you being cranky. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like parodying someone I knew. Yeah. What I was probably referenced in that cast was that... There was this guy like Dad knew.
Starting point is 01:35:22 He was like a photographer or like an... I think he might have been an amateur photographer or something. And the only reason he was notable to me, Well, like, wacky to me is that he had, like, this crazy hair, like, that just went out. It was, like, long gray hair that just went crazy. And he was always wearing these, like, weird, like, leggings that were, like, you know, when a guy, like, wears leggings, they've obviously got junk there. So there's always going to be, like, a fucking weird bulge if you're wearing shit like that.
Starting point is 01:35:52 So that was the guy I was referencing. And, like, that was maybe where I got the idea for, like, a quirky, weird. photographer or something. Man with a huge junk is what you're based the whole character. But yeah, it wasn't like, it was like some guy that like my dad knew and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna make fun of him
Starting point is 01:36:11 by like... Yeah, it was spare of the moment. Like... Yeah, no, it was just like walking... There was no plan, yeah, we were walking flossie and you had your camera. Yeah. Who is this person you were talking about that?
Starting point is 01:36:24 I don't think you ever met him. Really? Yeah, I mean, I did. Yeah, because it was around the time I was doing photography. I think it's sick form right um yeah so that maybe it was another inspiration you can't answer weird questions like that because we don't know it's just like it is it's just a creation you know well yeah maybe i could see someone putting it together in their head like wait
Starting point is 01:36:49 so what you made this like video to make fun of this person you know or something but like that no we made videos to make fun of ourselves is what we actually that's what it's all about Yeah, we just really wanted to be bullied Yeah, and bullied we were Let me show Fucking worth Speaking of being bullied Holden Cases says
Starting point is 01:37:10 Hey guys, your comments on history Was super interesting As I'm a history minor at university And study history for fun in my free time I know you guys discuss different eras But what do you think would be the worst historical event to live through? I have seen a video on this Like there was like a
Starting point is 01:37:27 There was some person who knows some thing so that there is this definite, definite, like, time that is the worst. Oh, really? Because it was, like, post, like, Black Plague or something, or, like, all these other various fuck situations. Yeah, no, when I read this question, the plague, like, was the first thing that jumped
Starting point is 01:37:43 him to my head. No, the, the plague is fucking disgusting. You'd get, like, these bulbous, like, balls of blood on your body. And they'd, like, pop and it'd just fucking blood everywhere. What a
Starting point is 01:37:59 Fitting word for it, though. Yeah. The plague. It would be something like that. It's like you can't compare normal times to like something like the fucking black death. It's just like this is agonizing death over months
Starting point is 01:38:13 to normal other events. Like if you think of the eruption of Kakatoa and that plunge to like most of Europe into a fucking like winter for the fucking year, probably miserable. Loads of people died through starvation. Terrible.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I mean the, the, the first of, fact of the matter is there's countless historical events you could choose that would be like yeah that one in russia was it definitely russia where they had to start like putting up signs and shit saying don't eat your children yeah like that must have been pretty fucking bleak unless they just really liked eating children i just feel like even even being a soldier on a side that wasn't like on the losing side and would still be... Just being a grunt in the trenches in World War I
Starting point is 01:39:04 That's a good answer actually After I watched that Peter Jackson documentary about World War I I still need to watch that. And there's like a section about like People that died just getting stuck in like the mud So you don't even think about it on that level It's like yeah In the trenches when they're just like all this dig in
Starting point is 01:39:23 It's raining the terrain Like it just gets so sloppy and gross and if it's just like a war zone and they've got no prep you're just fucked you do get your trench foot you are eaten by rats you've got no supplies
Starting point is 01:39:38 but even that even if you're surviving fine and like you're it's very likely that you're fucked up in some way like you have trench foot and then suddenly oh your side decides
Starting point is 01:39:50 to use mustard gas on the enemy oh wait the wind's changed yeah I'm just being mustard gas and then there's the mental side on top of that as well you're like you're there
Starting point is 01:40:01 with all your friends or whatever you don't know what's going it's yeah you're like a you cannot actually conceptualise quite how horrendous it would be shows like band of brothers like they do their best try and like they have
Starting point is 01:40:17 the interviews with the people that are actually there trying to describe it and it is so emotionally engaging watching these people just describe what they went through but you'll never understand it on the fucking level they did. Yeah, and I'm fucking glad I don't. Yeah, it's hellish, it's hell.
Starting point is 01:40:36 So some medieval historian has said that the worst time to be alive was 536, because there was like this weird, there was this fog over Europe and it plunged the entirety of Europe into darkness for 18 months, night and day, and dropped temperatures to like 1 degrees. Oh, my God. And then, like, after that, there was a fucking plague, like, a few years after that. And it's known it in history as, like, the dark ages. And nobody knows why.
Starting point is 01:41:07 The dark ages. Because it's just, just fucking dark and one degrees all year. Yeah, that's apparently one of them. Honestly, once you start removing, like, plumbing and just, like, basic shit and tape for granted. Everything's fucking shit. Yeah, like, just anyone from our society, like, plucked and just put back, like, The moment time is drawn like Nero's Wayne where he's just killing people.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Yeah, we're just miserable. In the same way, we're softer. Yeah, we are way softer. I couldn't live 100 years ago. A hundred? I think I'd cope with 100. 200? No, fucking good.
Starting point is 01:41:44 No, you're forgetting how shit it would have been. 100 years. In 1920s? 1921. You really want to be around in 1921? Wait. No, 19. Yeah, that would have been P.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Spanish flu. Yeah, so you just roll the dice in history. No, that is like a weird thing though. Every 100 years, there's a... There's a fucking calamity.
Starting point is 01:42:14 There's a... There's a... Do a flu? Not just a calamity, a pandemic. Mm. Or at least epidemic. It's COVID issue, man. It's just cycles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:25 It's Spanish flu. Everything is cycles. Well, we're not going to live through the next one, so... Yeah. Good luck. Fucking loser. Disappointment soup has a weird one. If given one year prep time and $75,000,
Starting point is 01:42:43 Kajar take down one Roman legion, around 4,200 infantry and 300,000... Sorry, 300 cavalry. The battlefield is up to you. After the year prep time is over, the Romans epically teleport in through an Avengers port. and will not leave until jar is destroyed. You cannot hire outside help with the 75,000.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Um... So how, so what, how many... That's 4,000, right? So 4,200 infantry and 300 cavalry. So we're talking about... We're talking about a legion of Romans, right? I think the fact that you can't hire anyone means we're... Yeah, yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 01:43:24 But also, how much ammo can you buy, like... in America for 75 grand If we just went to America Dude yeah If we all just armed up in America Loads of weapons Just like a turret See no
Starting point is 01:43:38 Yeah because they wouldn't have any Yeah what the fuck could they do Like a shield made out of leather No but here's the thing Four of us No because they would overwhelm us Yeah there's thousands of them You can't win in that situation
Starting point is 01:43:51 You'd have to play it where You'd have to I was just a playing cost Like, yeah, like a helicopter They can do anything See, no, because helicopter doesn't You say you have 70 grand Yeah, we're not going to be able to buy a helicopter
Starting point is 01:44:07 And machine guns We can get like a cheap second-hand one Fucking what, I'll be Like, you know the little fucking far-quite ones Yeah, yeah All the madmats ones Yeah, I was just googling like Roman defeats
Starting point is 01:44:20 Because to actually win You've got to consider environment What environment would best suit lesser numbers against huge numbers because there's loads of times in history position that they've got around yeah high ground with your helicopter or tarot
Starting point is 01:44:34 machine guns yeah just loads of machine guns just four mounted machine guns as they're trying to come up the hill or something has to be like a hill no no because that might work because if you're constantly finding a machine gun you're going to blow the bow eventually from overheating it well then we buy loads of them and just change
Starting point is 01:44:51 75 grand's worth how much do you think a machine guns were, boys, what? You don't even need, like... Okay, though, let's machine gun, machine gun. No, just whatever gun is equipped to take out a Roman, you know? Well, M2-49 sore
Starting point is 01:45:06 cost, let's see, that, they nine... No, not a saw, not a saw. Why not? Think Russian. Like an RPD? Yeah. B-D. Like... R-P-D.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Um, apparently... I'm just getting stock prices. No, you'd have to This is a difficult one because it's like... No, the truth is it's unwinnable. No. It's the numbers. No, no, no, it's not.
Starting point is 01:45:32 It's not. It's not. Because what were the Romans good at, white? Land battles. What were they bad at? Sea battles. We put the Legion on boats, so then they can't get us because they're melee. One speedboat with the turret on the back.
Starting point is 01:45:45 They go here. Oh, yeah, that's the point. Yeah. What did they actually do? When they come through the portal, though, would they just fall out into the ocean? No, I imagine them like, charging out like in the movie. No, but if we're in the middle of the ocean
Starting point is 01:45:59 and they charge out, they just fall down into the sea. Because those boats would be fucking... Yes. So they so the cavalry wouldn't be able to do anything because they're on a fucking boat. So they would be in their armour with their little fucking little spiky
Starting point is 01:46:15 bridges to get us and we just have a speedboat with a fucking flame thrower. They're built up with wood. Just a bit. Boom. Yeah. I think your tactical prowess has won the day for us James it's just time I'm open the women's
Starting point is 01:46:30 versus the carfet the carfid and they were like a sea like military boom genius history knowledge boom
Starting point is 01:46:41 let's do a couple more here tied to your apron has one hi lads a recent cast was named after a question my brother asked disagree to agree agree is the one though we are Both past the points in our lives when we were obsessed with entertainers, I'd be lying if we didn't both get really excited over this.
Starting point is 01:47:05 He said it feels like he's made a sort of contribution to the cast, and I can definitely understand why. Jara's a big part of our entertainment diet, and I've been following Alex since IHE had about 10K subs, so to not only have the question read, but also highlighted in the way that it was is pretty epic, especially for him. I was wondering if any of you had a similar experience with anyone you follow whether it be acknowledgement at some sort of event or having a comment highlighted by a YouTuber Cheers Ming as keep up the terrible work IHE because I had my own fucking segment
Starting point is 01:47:38 Maybe Yeah Nah um I've been I, there's a YouTuber I like he he's a car guy and he's in Japan And he was just posting this thing like Yeah this this fucking website's These other YouTubers just stole my content
Starting point is 01:47:54 And I was just like, yeah, I'm a YouTube And that's a fucking bullshit And I don't support those channels And he was just like Yeah It's like in this agreement And it was just nice I got a reply from Drang bricks
Starting point is 01:48:06 When I asked him how he does his stickers so well Ever since he gave me the advice To use tweezers to apply stickers So it changed again Yeah Of course he knows like All the trick tips of tricks gotta go to jam bricks for any
Starting point is 01:48:23 like a tips oh no there's a time I got I got a knowledge by that fucking watch mojo guy oh yeah you know I often think about that that fucking watch mojo email I got
Starting point is 01:48:39 the guy who like runs watch mojo whatever I felt like I was I laughed so hard because I was like 20 years old like at this email from the guy who runs watch mojo like listen kid It's like the cringiest fucking email And I couldn't believe
Starting point is 01:48:54 Because to me it's like the ultimate win Like being like the troll Like trying to get Yeah an attention from them Trying to get attention from people And you get like an email from the guy who runs Watch Mojo This site you fucking hate
Starting point is 01:49:07 This channel you fucking have no respectful And they send you this email on there like And you're just like Man I really got to you I clearly really fucking got to you With what I said in that fucking Five minute video Which means there must have been true
Starting point is 01:49:20 to it yeah I mean who can deny but I mean they've met Tom Holland and you haven't
Starting point is 01:49:28 so yeah yeah I'm saying that next week's a guest is that Mark Rapale
Starting point is 01:49:36 um it was a big deal to me um getting like spill yeah I knew that would be one for you
Starting point is 01:49:44 um yeah you used to ask them questions didn't you yeah They had a similar segment I always liked that
Starting point is 01:49:52 like sending in questions to podcasts I listen to and stuff Yeah that was my kind of thing Yeah I don't really have one To be honest I'm trying to think Yeah I don't really use
Starting point is 01:50:09 The internet in that way Most people don't Most people don't comment Yeah It's just freaks like me They do Hmm Stinky
Starting point is 01:50:23 Let's do this one from Adventurous airline Happy Victoria Day Gunas I just started drinking And I've had a few beverages that I like White Claws, some ciders But I really am not enjoying beer I've had Bud Light and a Corona
Starting point is 01:50:39 I was wondering what some of your beverages of choice are And what's some good beers to get started with I'm definitely not Carlsberg That shit sucks yeah um corona nah you only have that with family is it quite normal to not light beer at first for sure gravitate towards the siders you're
Starting point is 01:50:57 yeah sweet shit's easier yeah just sweet things that don't taste of alcohol and then most people don't go from beer to just whiskey like I did I just skip the beer yeah you skip beer you skip cider I suppose it's like I just like wiseries and like spirits with like coke or lemonade whatever yeah um Best lager is Birramaretti
Starting point is 01:51:19 Beautiful Corona is only really nice with lime Yeah you need to buy If you don't have that slice of lime Yeah trash Um Peroni Peroni's good
Starting point is 01:51:31 It's nice It's good yeah Honestly on the cheapest side of things Bex Bex ain't bad This one's that 64's nice Yeah 64's a good Like middle ground
Starting point is 01:51:43 Um Yeah, like Budweiser and shit It's very watery I can't I can't the Budweiser It's very tasteless Yeah Which I'm fine with
Starting point is 01:52:01 Like it's fine But But I used to be much more into ales But they're so hearty That's the thing I really I love the taste of oils
Starting point is 01:52:15 I like that experience old speckled hands are heavy though old speckled hands i don't think i don't think americans are getting old speckled hen well they should they'd be a prodigy because this person was talking about american like white claw which is definitely yeah true and cider and stuff so it's like it's hard to give advice when they're the alcohols in our countries and their gunches are bad light have you ever had bud light no uh maybe once and was it it's just that same like fizzy almost water piss like slight tinge of lager taste
Starting point is 01:52:49 which is fine but you know there's yummier out there without a doubt so I'm just I'm not a drinker like I haven't drank in the last like two three months like if I want to drink I just want to have cocktails
Starting point is 01:53:03 I shouldn't have like those type of drinks and not like spirits because you can have less yeah it's the quantity of lager that for me that starts putting me off once you've had like three four pints It's just such quantity of liquid that you're just shoving inside your poor tummy. Yeah, it's not comfortable.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Meanwhile, just a glass of whisky and I'm like, oh, yummy, feeling a bit loose. Let's end on this one then from Warlock, Wabit, bringing it back to Mass Effect. After hearing the Mass Effect discussion, I have an important question. Who are your love interests, if any, and who are your main bros?
Starting point is 01:53:41 Okay, so let's... This is so easy. You got Caden. You got Jacob. No. You got James Vega. Garis is the... Oh, James.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Garris is the bro. Yeah, Garris is the guy. Garis is, I love... Nothing, no one would be as good as Gareth. He is just the sweetheart. I love him. Yeah, his whole story is awesome. He's got...
Starting point is 01:54:05 Yeah, he's just the... The soft actor is incredible. His voice is... The smoothness of that voice. Fuck, man. There's lions. Yeah. Tali's a white.
Starting point is 01:54:13 He's the bro. I've got a... soft spot for Grunt. I don't know why. Really? Do you know what I get when I think of Grunt I kind of get this, it's like Argy but like huge Yeah and he's voiced by
Starting point is 01:54:26 the main guy from Cowboy Bebop The like English version Is he? That voice actor that's in everything Yeah yeah yeah yeah Oh that's cool Yeah no it's Gron and Gareth Gareth is the bros
Starting point is 01:54:39 They are the modern I like Legion Modern The Salarian guy He, Morden is top time. Yeah, he's top tier. It's honestly hard to say because all of them are good. Every character is important.
Starting point is 01:54:50 No, this is why it's so good about it, Mass Effect. Not every character is good, though. Ashley sucks. Caden. No, but Ashley's interesting because she's, like, quite a hateable character. A space racist. Yeah. That's, like, interesting that that's in there.
Starting point is 01:55:03 I think that's cool. Yeah, they were willing to chuck shit like that in. Yeah, true. Morden's really good. Yeah, Morden's awesome. I'm a big fan of Legion. Legion, yeah. using is great as well
Starting point is 01:55:15 where do you stand on liara liara is always my go-to love option there's no other liara is incredible liara is the option to me their race is clearly the most interesting in a sex I don't I
Starting point is 01:55:32 I'm thinking Tarley Tali is she's a good one too way better than the other option one. Well, you can't run that channel. Yeah, she's not an option in one. Yeah, something about her.
Starting point is 01:55:52 She's cool. What are the characters? Do you like Rex? Rex, I like Rex as well. I'm a fan of Rex, but he's just not in it that much. Yeah. It seems like a missed opportunity. Because it goes over to Grunt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Our boy, Gunt. But he doesn't like come back in three, does he? Crump does No Rex He's not like a No he is No Rex isn't through
Starting point is 01:56:18 Yeah But a party number No no No He's just in a mission You see That's one of the reasons Garis and Talia
Starting point is 01:56:25 You just get more time with them Like they're They're with you the whole time James Vega Cortez Where'd you stand on Cortez The humans They just don't really give a shit
Starting point is 01:56:39 That's for the universe that much Honestly All the aliens Yeah there's nothing to like learn about them. Well... Like, I say Garis, but I don't think it's his name, Garis.
Starting point is 01:56:51 His whole arc is like, he's a detective and he's just like, I want to get this case. I need this, and he joins us. He's like a cop that's sick of the, like, bureaucracy. Yeah, yeah. And then in Rastake 2, he's like a fucking... Yeah, that's why he goes to Omega
Starting point is 01:57:02 because there's no red tape, so he's like, I can just tape down whoever I want. Yeah, and he... No, but it's just like, if you've played Mastphake 1 and you go to 2 and it's just like, there's this fucking sliper, this fucking dude and it's just like, it's his heart. winter is just like
Starting point is 01:57:14 yeah they're trying to trick you they like keep it secret and shit oh my god I you're making me want to play the game again I can't do this Alex I can't as well Thane is a bro oh Thane's awesome thing's really cool Again a character I wish I had more time Like in the games with
Starting point is 01:57:31 Did he show up in three? Yeah I would say Anderson is a bro as well Anderson yeah he's kind of the bro Keith David yeah Absolute legend Amazing character And even he's not a bro by any means but the elusive man
Starting point is 01:57:45 he's like the opposite he's like an evil bro yeah the opposite what is the opposite um a sister so you know thinking of the visitor just shows the amount of incredible guy who does mass fact has
Starting point is 01:58:00 like I'm probably forgetting some proper proper good ones yeah I'm just going off what I've played recently so there's probably much stuff I can't remember you know Jack I do like Jack actually I've still got to do a loyalty mission in my current play through
Starting point is 01:58:17 Miranda not that mad on Miranda no but obviously she's the obvious choice for some people obvious yeah she's like so obvious it's like boring yeah you're not interesting your surface level you're about that ass there's nothing else you know she got them to that scene where the because they like patched that shot they did yeah yeah aspect too where it like shows her for like ages in that shot. I did that scene in the remake. How was it?
Starting point is 01:58:48 I know what the new angle is now. Is it seemed to an even more? It's like the same dialogue. It's just from like a different angle now. Is the angle good? Or is it just like the wind? It's fine. It's like not that memorable or whatever.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Yeah. I'm trying to think of other characters. Best fact has a lot. Legion Yeah, he said Legion Legion Legion was always my favour
Starting point is 01:59:16 Yeah, he's cool The Propheon in Free is quite a bro I can't remember his name He's a bit of a dick In eh No, the worst character Two is the
Starting point is 01:59:30 The mercenary guy Who you get in a DLC I'm Zaid I never experienced him He's right I did his whole team mission. Just
Starting point is 01:59:42 the shadow broker and Leara boom. Yeah, Leara is the answer. Leara is the answer. No, I'm voting entirely. Sorry, you're being, it's two to one, bro. There's a, there's a fucked up bit
Starting point is 01:59:54 in Mass Effect 2 where like one of the Asari are like, yeah, if you wind up in like a like a wedlock with a human, you can just wait out because they only live like a hundred years. Yeah, yeah. Because the Asari live like hundreds of years.
Starting point is 02:00:09 They live like a hundred years. thousand years. Because like in Massafet 1 Leara's only like 100. Yeah, she's like she's really young. She's shown it's like a literal teenager. Yeah exactly. So, which is like such a cool idea. It's sad though. It's sad though. Yeah, they all live different amounts of time. But they were able to like mingle and
Starting point is 02:00:29 No, but it's really sad. I imagine being in love with Leiaa and then she will outlive you. And that's like that's fucking depressing. Yeah, it's like Lord of the Rings with the elves. Yeah, yeah. That's drama. I'm going to go home and just crying myself to sleep. Why can you never romance a Krogan, though? They were saving it for Andromeda, and they just dropped the ball.
Starting point is 02:00:50 That beautiful Krogan in that game. When's the Andromeda remaster coming out? Next week. Oh. The shadow dropping it on. It's actually like an unlock in the legendary edition. If you get every achievement. I think that's the end, guys.
Starting point is 02:01:11 I'm going to piss myself. And so are you, unless you give us money on Patreon. Thanks, everybody. We love you. Wee. Ow! That was a slap and a half, Jamie. Do it on my butt next time.

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