JAR Media Posdact - Piggy In The Middle - JARCast #228
Episode Date: May 24, 2021https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 03:50 Piggy in the Middle (Housekeeping) 17:24 The ...Rules 25:22 Running On The Spot Expert 31:42 Alex Rambles About Mass Effect 50:17 James is dissapointed by battlefield leak 54:42 Alex's Brief Impressions of Bad Batch 56:55 Jim & Alex Talk 'Ran' 1:01:49 Beserk 1:08:51 James Jojo S2 1:10:19 Mid Break 1:12:06 If JAR were a WW2 Bomber Crew... 1:14:42 Favourite War Movies 1:18:48 Did Jim Ever Finish Community 1:23:08 Br i ish 1:24:39 What games do you guys think utilize the medium of video games best 1:34:26 Morty Prest Story 1:37:07 What would be the worst historical event to live through? 1:42:35 JAR, $75000 & 4200 Romans 1:46:50 Obsessed Over YouTubers 1:50:27 Fresh Beverage 1:53:30 Mass Effect Love Interests and Bros
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Who's going to intro this, guys?
You?
Why do I...
I don't know if...
Bro, I don't know if I got the energy, man.
Yeah, you do.
Just close your eyes and do it.
Good afternoon, morning, evening, all night, ladies.
What are you doing?
What are you actually doing?
There's a spot.
I'm picking the leg spot.
Do you never get spots on your leg loads?
Yeah, now and again.
See, this is Prime Cast Talk, but I'll do the entry.
Okay, I'm coming over here.
Why?
Why do I have to be, like, the piggy in the middle?
That's the name of the cast.
Biggie in the middle.
Good afternoon, morning, evening, all night, ladies and gentlemen.
As you can see.
We are back!
Something fell down as well, what was it?
It was Ruby D.
Oh no.
We are here in video.
The JARCast has returned and today I'm joined by Alex and Jamie.
What's up?
And this is JARCast episode.
2-27.
Yeah, right?
Or was it 2-8?
Do we actually forget to change the number?
that.
It's 2.28.
It is 2.8.
We didn't change it.
Fucking guys.
We've been gone a long time, okay?
This is like, this happens.
As you can see, we're rusty.
We are rusty.
It feels extremely weird.
Just doing it.
Interacting with other humans.
Yeah, just being normal.
You know, having just my face actually on a video
and not like this, you know,
Discord game type thing.
So how are we all doing, boys?
Yeah.
Not too bad.
Not too bad.
It's been a long fucking time.
It's been really long.
Almost as long as the JAR Media Patreon.
I'm sure we should shout out before we get any deeper.
Head over to the Patreon and give us your love and support
so that we can keep funding the show and improving.
Because as you can see, this is our new setup.
What?
This is our new setup, where?
Piggy in the middle.
This is the Peekeying in the Middle podcast
where we discussed the most intense,
We felt like we needed to like re-brand or something.
Yeah, you know, after this COVID and how intense it's been, you know, everyone's had massive
life-changing events.
We thought we'd, uh, re-launch the podcast as a new entity that strives for excellence
and normality.
And piggy's in the middle.
We are the piggies in the middle.
Piggy in the middle can die.
I'm fine with piggy in the middle dying.
That didn't last very long.
Piggy in the middle is dead
We're back baby
Fuck piggy in the middle
Yeah
Piggy in the middle's gone
It's jar baby
We're back
It's back to jar
Okay back to jar
Welcome to jar
Um
Let's address some
Topics and questions
And stuff from the last episode then
We've never done a live action
housekeeping
I don't think
That's fucking crazy
You sure about that
Maybe
Well I lie because we did
The Comment Corners
originally, way back in the old days, but...
When did we start at the Comment Barrel, Crucible?
I thought that was a corn thing, but...
Comment Barrel and Comment Crucible were corn things for sure.
What's it now, now we're in the live realm?
The pigs.
Piggy in the middle.
Yeah, Piggy in the middle.
Welcome to the Piggy in the Middle section.
Yeah, the commenter is like the little piggy in the middle.
And their comments being
bounced off us as we torment them.
As we surround the piggy.
Kobe Langston's going to start us off.
Alex calling out Troy Baker
for playing Asian characters is the most
egregious hypocrisy.
Yeah, I thought the same thing
as I was saying it, but
you know.
Wasn't it me that said it?
Did you?
Yeah.
What about old Nick?
No, about
Troy Baker playing
an Asian character? No, because I brought
a Mass Effect 3 in
that Asian character he plays.
And this is of course referencing
Hunt Down the Freeman, where I played
an Asian character. What sort of research did you
do into...
None.
None.
Did you actually have a choice
in the character you'll be?
No, I explain it, I think,
in my video.
The character model was already
rendered, so I guess they didn't want
I don't do anything again
because it's like
takes time and it's hard
so they already had the model
so the character wasn't written for you
no they just had like a
random character and they're like
you can be the Asian guy
you look like
you looked Asian when you were a kid
when you were like
four no I thought the same
in those pictures but
I don't believe that for a second
it's true I don't
we had a couple questions relating to Mass Effect
of course
It's all the rage at the moment.
The legendary edition is out.
I've been playing it a lot.
Power Couch says,
I appreciate James geeking out about Ilo Sivigil,
the Reaper level and the soundtrack.
Definitely one of my fondest memories in gaming.
Yeah, when I played parts of Mass Effect 1,
and I was massively,
because we last talked about it before I'd actually played it,
I was massively shocked by the improvements they made to MassFet 1.
Oh, we're talking about, yeah, yeah, you tried Legendary Edition.
in MassFet 1?
Yeah, it's, it's a real, like, if there's any time to jump onto Mass Effect, it is now.
Mm-hmm.
That first game is so playable now.
Like, I'm probably going to be jumping on it and buying it myself.
Because I just, I'm on a Mass Effect craze.
It's been on my mind since actually playing MassFo one again.
Yeah, and it must have also agreed with that boy, Miguel, who said the Mass Effect
talk honestly convinced me to pick up Legendary Edition.
I played a bit of two, but got bored.
The talk got me interested about the lore and just side stories.
Char. I was thinking about that too
because I've been listening to like
on watching videos on YouTube, different
thoughts on the collection, mostly
intrigued by people who've
never played them before.
Yeah. What they're thinking.
And I've seen mixed things because I don't know how
MassFit 1 would strike you
if you'd, uh, you know.
Yeah, Mass Effect 1 was always the weak link
to me, but
I do want to say I have bought
MassFet Legendary Edition
because of our talk.
On the cast and when I briefly tried it
And Mass Effect 1 is
Really fucking good
Yeah
It's just the gameplay let it down
But I think the gameplay is passable now
With the improvements they've made
I was totally wrong
About Mass Effect 1 to begin with
What do you mean?
I always thought
Because I never played it as much as you
And I was
Young when I played it
I played it once
maybe twice
and
yeah
getting to it now
this game is carried
by like just the most fucking awesome world
and the best soundtrack
like in a game I've ever heard
yeah
no the
I never I honestly never appreciated
truly
like the actual work that went into the world building
and just the way those three games
like intermingle
when you're actually paying attention to
all the stuff that's set up in the
first game that comes up in the third yeah this is something as well if if you only ever played
them like i did just once through like mass fat one two three once each um the amount of thought
they must have put into the whole trilogy while they were working on the first one is like
mind-blowing yeah you'd have to have some kind of map some idea of what you're actually this is
going yeah because it it's almost better going through again knowing stuff that's happening
in the future.
Yeah, and now I actually
properly am using the
whole dialogue tree is designed around
this like investigate option.
We are supposed to investigate if you
want the option of learning more about the law and stuff.
So I'm actually just going through every
investigate option and listening to
whatever the nerdy law stuff is.
Yeah, I've been doing that too, but I'm actually
blown away by how concise
the beginning of Mass VET 1 is.
Yeah, no, it was what I was trying to get across
a few episodes ago on call.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that opening is just amazing to MassFit 1.
Yeah, so quickly do you become, like, familiar with the world?
Yeah, it establishes the entire conflict of the universe in that.
Yeah, but not in like a forced, like, bad dialogue, exposition-y way.
It all feels natural, it's, yeah, it's something special and definitely worth checking out.
Yeah, 100%.
Nubius Maximus left a comment
On a sort of similar topic
How often do you chaps
Actually pay attention to the stories of games
Way more now
No I always pay attention to it
I guess it depends on what it's going for
If it's clearly going for a mechanics first thing
Then I can ignore like a story a little bit
Yeah
Like you can like play
through a halo campaign and just ignore like the story and just enjoy the gameplay of it.
Yeah.
But when it's like life is strange or something, you know?
Or Mass Effect.
Or yeah, where it's all comes down to the, well it doesn't all come down, but it largely comes down to the writing.
And if like your life is strange is full of the cringy, you know, fake teen dialogue and stuff like that, it does.
I don't know
I don't
If I want to play a game
This gameplay orientated
I will never play a single player game
I would just play a multiplayer game
You need some kind of hook
To get someone into like the story side
Yeah
Yeah
But I don't play story games
Is the thing
Like I've never
I've read dead
Haven't played that
You used to
Yeah
I used to be like your favourite
You love
well you love Red Dead One
you love Red Dead One you love New Vegas
Yeah
Mass Effect
Yeah
Like those were your games back in the day
But now as like an adult
I don't have the time to invest in the story
I just want like a just casual experience
But it's just like mainly gameplay
Like Apex
Ati Jorkel
Yeah yeah
Something like that
To answer the question though
I'd say
Well like you said
Like it depends on the game
Like Doom
When I was playing
Both
Yeah that's a good
example, actually. I couldn't give less
of a shit about the context
because it wasn't about that. Because Eternal had
way more cutscenes and tried to do a story
stuff. I didn't care at all
but I didn't take anything
away from the game for me.
Yeah, not at all. But on the flip side, Waufenstein
you can't not pay attention to
the story because it's so well told
and compelling. Yeah, but the gameplay is not as
tight or well-designed as Doom, so it's the
kind of trade-off. Yeah, it makes up for it
in that stuff. Because
Sino Productions left one for us.
Question for bungalow
Commitmenting.
It's just changing the name every week.
It makes it so confusing.
If dinosaurs never weren't extinct,
how would humanity react to them
in modern times?
Could you have a pet herbivore?
How would they affect technology
and civilization?
Are dino dinners a possibility?
I think the dynos would have been extinct
either way because we would have just
learned to kill them.
Yeah, maybe...
I don't think there's a timeline
where...
Both exist at the same time.
Yeah, I don't think it's...
That being said, which dinosaurs could Mike Tyson beat?
I reckon we'd, like, eat dinosaurs?
We'd probably ride them.
Well, it's just like, in that case, it's like we wouldn't have cows.
We'd have, like, this dinosaur equivalent that we'd, like, farm and eat.
It'd just everything we have now be a place of a dinosaur.
Imagine if you could, like, farm titanosaurus's.
I guess they are just, like, chickens.
Huge chickens.
Yeah, how much, how many people could you feed with one T-Rex?
Yeah, but then they're where, so you're not going to be able to farm them as much as any other animal because of the size.
No, you don't want to eat the predators anyway, you want the babies.
The babies, they're like herbivores, you know?
No, that's why you genetically just fucking ruin dinosaurs.
Like, you make a T-Rex that, like, his mouth is tiny.
And it becomes a chicken.
Yeah.
Just a massive chicken.
Hmm.
Well, if humans and dinosaurs did exist at the same time, it would just be...
Hux Vival evolved.
Bite them, just wipe them.
Yeah, Vin Diesel would just rack them.
Yeah.
Barry Blue is going to end this section for us.
Well, Battle Passes are quite annoying.
I feel like the Master Chief Collection does it well.
It doesn't cost extra whatsoever, and you unlock everything as you level up,
and every season is accessible.
at the same time, they also add really neat
new content that don't fuck up the balance
of the game like Cod. It feels like I'm
actually earning what I'm unlocking instead of
paying money. I do prefer just being able to
unlock whatever I want off the menu like in reach
but I'd rather have this than typical
pay-to-win bullshits. I don't think that would work in Apex
or Cod or any of the big
battle-past games. I don't think it's fine.
I think they've adapted it to the games they're in.
Like you can't have new content
that's going to cost money for a game that is a wee,
release and the content you get and already exist in those games and to me with that one it was
just like a just too late i'd already played the game so much and then they're adding in these
reward systems when you've already played it for like tens of hours it just seems like yeah it feels
like wasted time yeah yeah it's like the destiny problem where it's like they fix the systems
six months later and it's like i've already spent five months grinding in the old bad system
and i just feel like i've been screwed out of something yeah yeah i'd say the halo
one is a bad example, though.
Really?
Yeah, I think the Battle Pass system
only works if it's being paid for.
Yeah. There's nothing
addictive. I'm not driven to try and
like earn points in the MCC one.
As much as we can say as
consumers, you've got to consider the people making
the game and they're doing it for money. So that
system wouldn't work for any companies.
But you can't pay for them in the MCC.
Yeah, and if you can't pay for it, why not just
design something fun?
Yeah.
You know, the whole
design, like is Ruby.
the whole design of a battle pass
is the time limit
it's to extort money from you
yeah basically but also that thing
where if you buy one theoretically
you can use what you make from each one
to get the next one
which gives more playtime which makes money
yeah which makes you
motivated to keep playing that
that's why it exists it's like a psychological
fuck fest to keep us
yeah giving them money
you can't make that better than it is
because it is a fucked idea
yeah
I think
they're just experimenting with systems
to implement to Infinite.
Yeah, you're probably right.
If I saw that in Infinite, I wouldn't want to play it.
I'd be fine with a normal battle push.
Because remember, the multi-play's free
for Infinite. They'll have a BattlePuff.
But like this idea where you just buy what you want,
yeah, it doesn't make me want to...
Because the appeal is that that level 100 thing
is what you want.
So you play it all season for that thing you want.
I think what he means is like the Reach way of doing it.
What's the Reach way of doing it?
You have like currency that you build up
buy in a store.
I prefer that as an alternative.
The stuff you buy is also locked behind your level.
So like the really high level stuff,
you can't use the currency to get until later on.
Oh yeah.
But it's just a battle pass system for getting the weak system.
I don't think just being able to buy what you want,
when you want, but it is.
I think a mixture of the two would work for Infinite
if for the free to play people,
they can only use the battle pass to unlock stuff.
Yeah.
But for people that actually buy the game,
I think they should be given,
more cosmetic shit
for the Marty Plur?
Yeah.
Yeah, there is no
FOMO side to it, so it's just like...
Yeah.
Just let it sit.
Yeah.
Well, that's housekeeping, guys.
The house is now clean and sparkly and gorgeous.
Where do we want to go?
Where do we want to go with this?
Where do you want to go?
You can go anywhere, anywhere we want,
honestly.
how do you guys feel about
just constant rules changing
what in regards to
life
what like
specifically the pandemic life or
well yeah
what's like some
effects you weren't expecting
um
I wasn't expecting
for
you know corncast to get up to
42 weeks
Yeah
That's definitely something
I was not anticipating
That's only 10 weeks away from a year
Yeah
That's fucking
Is it really?
Yeah
52 weeks in year, isn't it?
Yeah
Yeah, Jesus
Fucking crazy
This year has been shit
I mean
Like the beginning of the year
It's just been like a blur
Of just the same day on repeat
And now it's May
Like nothing's happened
We started
We started a lockdown
March last year, like
by the end of last year we thought
oh maybe surely this can't happen again
boom
in fucking May
in May and we've only just started to come out of it
our third one
possible fourth on the horizon
who knows yeah because I was like
reading the news and for once
it was the first time I noticed it in like a couple years
the headlines were trending weirdly positive
and I was like this is
this is weird
then the Indian variant
I started becoming the headline
I guess
I just never know
with the news side of it
like
if you're trying to like
maintain some level of happiness
you can't be perusing the news
24 seven
but how do you stay informed
or know what's happening in the world
without reading about it
do you think it's necessary to stay informed
um
no
how often does being informed
that actually matter or come in as useful during your day-to-day life.
Depends to what circles you're in, I guess.
Like, if you're a politician, like, you probably should be fucking informed.
But as like a casual guy or girl or someone who has, like, just a normal life,
like, you know, I go into the office sometimes, you know, and I see my work colleagues,
and it's just like none of the news stuff is, like, discussed.
I'm informed about everything because I just Twitter and all that.
And it's, like, useless.
Who cares?
I'm never going to use it.
It's just like, I wake up, I go on to it, and it's just like, oh, well, that's another reason to be depressed.
Is this news in whatever country?
But you don't want to be blind to the world as well at the same time?
No.
There is a mix to it.
You do want to know what's happening in the world.
You want to be up to date on the comings and goings, like, especially during a time like this.
Yeah, no, I think it's more necessary than ever.
but it's also more depressing than ever
yeah severely depressing
like Christ
I'm not trying to not use Twitter at the moment
because of how fucking depressing it is
it's extremely depressing
it's like I don't need to see these pictures
Twitter is the one social media
where I don't think my mood's ever been improved
by going on it
it's only ever made worse
by going onto it
yeah same with Instagram
even worse of Instagram I found
really you think so
if you're confident or happy of your life
Instagram
Beew
Well the thing with
Instagram is that you can
The algorithm
If you keep looking at shit memes
All it's going to show you is shit memes
So that
That works for me
Like on the Explore tab or whatever
Yeah
But then you've got to see
Does shit memes not like mess of you at all
Because I just get annoyed at the shit memes
For like being like really shit
The repetition
Yeah
No I'm fine with it
It's like
it's totally harmless
whereas on Twitter
if you follow one person
especially now because you get to see
like everyone's likes and shit
every conversation
every comment they make
everything
so they're going to retweet shit
they're going to like shit and you're going to see it all
you know and
Twitter is a space where like
very rarely do good things
get talked about and when they do
they're just swamped by the
just fucking huge amounts of shit
going on. Yeah
Yeah yeah it stopped being fun
a long time ago for me
like Twitter used to be kind of fun
Yeah I still do have fun with it
Because it's just like I try to detach myself
From normality with it
It's just like if I can't understand the language
These people are posting in I'm not having a problem
It's just pretty pictures
and that works
because it's just like
oh cool that's a pretty picture
yeah
well the algorithms are like
so designed to kind of promote
these audiences like clashing
so you everyone's replying
and interacting with posts and stuff
like you said like
now when you follow someone you just see
the followers of the people
you follow and shit like
it just shows you the stuff you don't even want to see
so you just wind up seeing
all the most
you know, shocking
or controversial stuff
so my fee is just full of all this shite
from people I don't follow.
Yeah, it's just about, like, popularity.
It doesn't matter who you follow
how you use the app
if someone has a tweet that blows the fuck up
you're seeing it. Yeah.
And to me, that defeats the point of Twitter.
Why have a retweet button?
Yeah. If liking can do
the same thing sometimes.
And there's like a trending tweet
section.
Yeah.
Oh, that like pops up.
Yeah, and constantly, I follow like 150 odd people or something.
And constantly, I get these, like, topics recommended to me.
It's like, do I not have enough shit?
Yeah.
Just constantly on this screen.
Like, why do I have a topic of, like, Hugh Jackman?
Why is Hugh Jackman topless on a yacht just popping up in my Twitter feed?
I get weird things like darks.
this is a topic you'd like
is this
yeah I get that one too
like Zelda
DreamWorks movies
yeah I think
I was listening to a podcast
or something
and they were saying
yeah on the weekend
I just don't go on any social media
I wish I could do that
I don't mind that idea in concept
but it's hard to do in practice
because of the addictive nature
of them
yeah they're incredibly addictive
do you guys do that thing
that I wish I could
kick where when you wake up
the first thing you do you go
on your phone and you just lay there
until you've scrolled all the way
through like all of your social media
yeah well I don't do all of them I'll pick a couple
normally yeah no I do it as well
it's like get up it's like I need to catch up I need to see
what's going on so you go on your Twitter you
just press the button I don't do
I don't do it to scroll up I press the button
so I go to the top and it scroll all the way
down through like 200 accounts it's just like
fuck Instagram same thing
no but if Instagram it's like
honestly the stories, honestly what people are doing.
It's always like...
I really, rarely
use Instagram. Mine are
Twitter and recently
Reddit. I never
go on Instagram. I'm so
annoyed by all the Facebook products and
like I use WhatsApp
like a lot and I wish it wasn't
the one that it settled on.
And people are like
moving to
I think it's called Signal.
Which is like what WhatsApp used to be.
But it's that thing that's like
It's just going to be the same
Yeah, the same cycle
It's just the same shit
It's too big
And then it's bought
Yeah
Yeah
I can't keep up with social media
Like you were showing me earlier
This TikTok shit right
This guy
Do you remember his username or anything?
I know
I mean
This is
This is pretty normal
For TikTok to be honest
Oh TikTok's the one I've managed
To avoid
But it was
It's a guy where
whole gimmick and his whole he's built a like image and career around running on the spot
making it look like he's running in slow motion when he's actually just you know standing still
he's standing there shout out to buster breezy best fake runner in the world that's his that is that
his bio yeah so his whole gimmick is like he's really good at fake running to be fair to the guy he is
really good at he's incredibly good at it he's like he does the slow most
stuff, so it looks like he's an Apex intro.
But like any niche.
And I don't understand, like, why could you not just do that on YouTube?
And it would be just as funny, but I guess...
Yeah, it's...
It must come down to the algorithms.
Because you can't fake rum for 10 minutes, hit that prime time.
Yeah, true.
You can't have the real short stuff as much, I guess.
But, no, but you're saying that, you're forgetting YouTube mobile is a completely different experience to YouTube.
Well, yeah.
Become the beast.
Yeah, YouTube mobile is bizarre.
It's got the meme pages that only post memes.
It's got the short Instagram videos, whatever it's got.
It's like every social media combined.
Yeah, and it's better than most of them.
I've got a theory that meme pages aren't run by humans.
It's the beginning of the AI up.
No, no.
Why would someone dedicate what must be a lot of time
to uploading pictures, pictures of memes,
onto YouTube.
Like pictures on YouTube.
If people are looking at it, I mean...
No, but people...
People do it on like Tumblr, on Deviant Art.
No, but it's on Instagram as well,
because it's like these...
All of the meme pages post the same thing.
Mm-hmm.
So there's multiple machines just copying each other's algorithm
and just...
Or just one big machine.
Yeah.
It runs the whole thing.
And this is what's weird.
The memes are like an algorithm.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
Memes get, like,
morphed for as long as they can
by like
it's just the same shit over and over
and then it's a slightly new thing
but most of the time
these pages are all there to be sold
they're not there to give you entertainment
they're there to make money
they're going to be sold. I was going to say that about
Twitter just the way
like the marketing
thing on Twitter is really strange
I had this
this guy
I think you work because I didn't like the silicon
Valley who like knows me from like years ago
he like texted me saying
how much for
Nataku to sponsor a tweet
what
fuck you denied a nuttaku
what's Nataku
I think it's like a hentai game
so it's a hentai website
like made in Silicon Valley
yeah no like the guy lives in
like he has he I guess he knows all these like weird
sponsors and just like tries to get
YouTubers to
like tweet porn hentai links out whatever um i tried to like inquire just to see like i've
never like i don't know like what what we're talking about here like what this actually means
but i couldn't get any more information out um without like fully committing because i'm not doing
that see i would more have you got to lose yeah i guess that's how it were have we talked about
NFTs on corn?
Briefly, I think.
Maybe. I don't know.
What do you have to say about them?
I don't really understand it.
But they're nothing.
There's something.
People are talking about it.
They are memes that are sold.
Right?
Like Twitter Jack, you're like sold one of his tweets, right?
Yeah.
Like his first tweet.
Yeah, but it's gotten to the point where isn't Charlie bit my finger?
It's going to be deleted off of YouTube and sold as an NFT.
But the thing about that is someone's.
just going to download it and we upload it
to YouTube
and that's what's going to
yeah
like NFTs make no sense
it's like a receipt that you own
something or that you own
something but you can't
own it because there are infinite
how many people will have downloaded
Charlie bit my finger over the years
how many meme pages do you think have it in the
archives that the first fucking post
is the Charlie bit my finger video
there must be thousands of re-uploads already
on YouTube yeah yeah
that's what they say there as soon as it's online
like it's just there forever
You can't hide it
Especially something that high profile
I guess they're just trying to milk it
They just want their last bit of Charlie money
It's all like combined
And it's all intertwined with the crypto currency bollocks
They all come from the same things
Why GPU prices are through the roof
Yeah
No I was I was hoping that was going to level out at some point
Hasn't yet
But it just seems to be getting like worse
It's manic
it does feel like we're
rocketing towards the future
you know like the cryptocurrency
is just a phrase that everyone knows now
yeah bitcoin mining
everyone just knows what that is
it's wacky it's wacky as fuck
just call them credits
and be done with it
yeah like surely you're gonna start
it's gonna get to a point when you can
you know you you've just bought the latest card
or game and they'll be like
well if you're not playing the game
if you leave it on we can crypto mine
and give you in-game currency
that's surely a thing
they must be thinking of that
like they will use your console
to mine actual crypto currency
and give you in-game currency
as a fucking
yeah well they take like
90% of it
and you get the 10%
cryptocurrency spare
that go straight into codpoints
exactly it's like why isn't this a thing
surely Activision must know this
EA if you want some investment tips
Hit us up.
They've already stolen it.
Fuck sake.
So I'm on Massafet 2 now.
I can't remember if I said I finish 1.
Yeah, you blasted through it.
You're addicted.
You're a gamer.
Did you do everything in Massifere 1?
Not everything.
No, there's no way I'm doing all the side stuff in that game.
I just straight up think it sucks.
I think I might.
Oh, no, no, no.
Really?
I do it to experience it, but.
It's terrible.
I'm pretty sure I've done it all the way through once before.
No, you'll do it until you get to, like, one of those planets you land on.
You go to, like, a base.
You go in, some bullshit means you die.
And then you're, like, taken back, like, half an hour's worth.
And you're like, no, I'm just going back to the moment.
There's some interesting stuff.
I don't know.
The only thing I'm curious of is in the first game, they had,
one of the biggest, like, background things for the whole series was a bull.
And you go to a ball, and it gives you this whole fucking law thing about.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
I want to know if they change that.
It's like a Prothian ball.
Yeah, and it's like portraying the future of you or something.
In which one, sorry?
MassFet 1.
Yeah, it's in the D.L.C. of 2 as well, I think.
It's just like a murky ball.
Yeah.
It looks like a material, like mercury.
Like a big ball of mercury.
I don't know what you're talking about.
But you do it.
When you do it in the first game, it just gives you a paragraph that explains the law.
Really fucking interesting stuff to do with the law of Masfeck.
But it just portrays it in a paragraph, a big box.
I just wonder if they changed that at all.
Because if they made it a cutscene, way more interesting.
No, all that stuff's the same.
There's loads of weird, like, little descriptions in Massifil.
Yeah, I love that shit.
I do as well.
It's very pen and paper.
Yeah, it's really, like, classic RPG shit.
Like, there's a narrator sort of thing.
Yeah.
I do want to found footsteps in the dust.
Yeah, yeah.
Super cool.
I do want to briefly mention as well.
Mass Effect 1 on mouse and keyboard is better for one reason
And that's because the hacking minigame is different
Oh, what is it on BC?
So it's like multiple wheels
And you're an arrow
And you sort of go round it while other things are twisting
And you have to avoid it's like frog it
Oh, okay
It's like a mini frogger game
Instead of just like, Y, A
Eh
Yeah, because that just wouldn't be a challenge
I get, well it isn't a challenge ever
Yeah
It's a super boring
A frog is a sick game though
Frogger's awesome
But I'm
I would really just under-restimated this whole thing
Like just what they were tinkering with
Behind the scenes with this stuff
Because I'd forgotten how much
Like I'd just adore MassFet 2
You were a huge mass fact too
Like I've never been more obsessed probably
With like a piece of media
Like a story or something
But I'd forgotten about how much I liked it
Because of three and the letdown it was
And then I was kind of written off
Then Andromeda came out
I'd forgotten about it all
So jumping into two after one
Because the main reason I was interested
In the legendary edition was to just see what they did to one
Yeah, that's why I was interested as well
But then going into two and being like
Oh shit
Like
This is the game
This is how I remember the game being
When a few months ago
I actually downloaded the original
original version onto my series X the 360 version of MassFet 2 and it was a bit like yeah this isn't
how I remember it it's not like it feels fucked like the resolution sucks like the frame rate sucks
and that's like a lame feeling when you go back and it's like not how you remember but this version is
how like how I remember it improves things like it looks so much better the it's the resolution of
everything the the graphics of it is so much more detailed and
the gameplay too just having the feedback and shit like just brings it all home for me
yeah that's something about mass effect one for me um because if i did play mass effect one original
now it's it's trash well i'm tempted to download the 360 version of mass effect one yeah just to
have a look at that intro just to see how like muddy and it's it's not just graphically though the graphics of that
the only thing I have a bit of a gripe with with Mass Effect one yeah because it it does lose
some of the the character that is something I stand by some of the the moodiness yeah the contrast in
colors when you make everything just have realistic lighting it's it's sort of wasting the
potential of video games where you can have like this totally virtual artistic space
that just couldn't exist no I do see what you mean um but the
only thing is you have to think about when that original game came out it would have been
720p if that 30 frames per second if and that game was do you remember how badly it ran
when on when it came out um the loading screens the pop in no all that shit is so much better now
yeah but i think like that it was it those decisions to have that blurriness to have that moodiness
was partially affected by the decision of the of having to mask the look of the yeah
Yeah, but it's one of those things where
Because they were limited
They ended up making something slightly better
Yeah, because of it
Yeah, that's definitely a debate in the community at the moment
And I'm sure there'll be like modders that go in
The PC version and try and get it to look
Yeah, it's the same problem with the Dark Souls remaster
The Dark Souls remaster is much worse
Than this Mass Effect one
But yeah, it just loses this grit
yeah but i'd just forgotten how expansive mass spec two is it's so bloody long there's so much to do
but they don't it doesn't drag like parts of one no where they just they nailed like the systems
in the way they all interact and how you're just doing like a bit of combat for 15 minutes bit of
story for another 15 then you're mining planets for another and then it's just perfectly paste in
the way it's all designed do you like the planet mining um i'm okay with a planet
mining that now that I know that it works.
The game can be
kind of overwhelming, I think, if you don't know
what's up. Yeah. I remember
just playing MassFit 2 when I
first got my hands on it. Like, you just
have no idea what
the scope of it truly is, because it is
selling this like space opera,
you're jumping around planets, like just
actually how much shit is there in this game.
Mm-hmm. And it is like tens
and tens of hours of stuff, especially
with all like the DLC and
shit, because you said you never played
any of the ME2 stuff.
And like, and you're saying, yeah,
I don't remember any of the side stuff being that good.
But ME2
has so much DLC and so much it's really
good. Like, did you play the one
that has that weird, like,
vehicle that you're, like, flying around?
Is the Overlord, DLC?
Overlord is really good. The only one
is the, it's the service,
like, one where you get the flying vehicle, that's
terrible. Yeah, that was like the packing.
Yeah, but the EA online
pass. But in the Overlord, DLC
I think you use that vehicle.
You do.
That's how it ties in and that's actually really fucking the DLCs.
It's really,
really interesting, like,
subjects it brings...
So, yeah, I mean,
we touched on this a few episodes ago, whatever,
but I'm curious what you'd think
playing all that stuff as well.
Especially because you hadn't before
because I keep finding things
that I never experienced
because I'm making an effort
to, like, play with characters I never did
and do things a bit differently.
So I actually hear dialogue
and never heard and stuff like that
to try to get a new experience.
What I'm trying to do is, um, like, actually see if the game parts are good as well.
I've put, I've not put the game on the hardest difficulty, but I've put it on hardcore.
Yeah.
Whatever.
What, what surprised me about Mass Effect 1 is how fun the combat actually is.
Yeah.
But, you get into a real rhythm at a certain point.
Yeah.
I mean, even early on, I've, I've not played for very long at all.
but like
just the
progression
everything
shit's fun
I think the fact that
it is unreal
isn't it
yeah
the rag doll
immediately makes shit fun
yeah it's awesome
you can really like
cheese the Geth Walker
things when you're in the Mako
yeah you just drive into them
yeah just tap their legs
and they fall over
it's pretty funny
yeah it's not perfect by any means
but there is fun to be heard
and just yeah
I respect it so much more now
and I think
just the fact that the screen moves
when you shoot
there's a bit of feedback yeah feedback
and your accuracy doesn't just immediately go from
perfect to awful
yeah it's amazing how much
just slight tweaks can improve that whole thing
yeah because I was a very
the belief wrongly that it was
unfixable. I thought it was that
bad originally. No,
it's just aged. Yeah. Yeah, it was
just that. Yeah, there was something
else I was going to say about two, but I can't remember.
Yeah, insane. Because I've been playing on insanity.
They, for this edition, they've
definitely tweaked the difficulty.
Mass Effect 2 is
way, way, way, way, way
easier on insanity than
it was on the 360.
because it's been bringing all these memories back
of playing it on insanity on the 360
and having these like hair pull out moments
because they were so stingy with ammo for some reason
on the 360 version
so you had to be so careful of like every shot
and it was so difficult
it was basically no fun
it was really annoying
but now I'd almost say it's on the verge of being too easy
with how much ammo they rate you with
but you actually get some good combat out of it
instead of just that really boring
hardest difficulty play style
where you're like hiding miles back
you just go
and then hide into your shields are back
and you're like waiting minutes at a time
so you actually have proper combat
because I did that
just one of the first
main points of the game
where there's like a
I won't say any story thing
but
I forgot my fucking point was
I forgot
I lost it
Difficulty
I want to say I tried
Mass Effects
Sorry yeah no because there was
There's one mission in Mass Effect 2
On the hardest difficulty
That was so ridiculously hard
And it was that mission
For those who played it
The first time you kind of interact
With the collectors in that game
It's like a boss at the end of that level
And it's on insanity
No, no, no, fuck.
No, for Alex.
It was like, you're bringing back memories for me.
I tried that.
I did, I started Mass Effect Free on a hard difficulty.
It's in the, it's where you first meet Ashley or Caden.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's right there, and it's an open courtyard and there's trucks of fucking boxes.
Yeah, yeah.
And it fucking floats around.
It's got barriers, shields.
It's got like, these laser eyes that just get, just, and like, just aim bought you.
I think I did it on not insanity.
I did it one below.
Mm-hmm.
I spent a fucking, like, two hours doing it, died, never played it.
I was just like, fuck this, this is dumb.
So I did that bit yesterday, and I did it first try on Insanity.
Would you say it's like the perfect level of difficulty then?
It's that thing of the first few hours are really hard, but as long as you...
Because I know the game so well, I know where to go to get all the upgrades that will help me.
Then I do the combat stuff, so I don't know if that's just helping or...
And I don't know if ever since playing Apex and just turning you into this, like, aggressive,
monster.
A goon.
Like, you just, like, when I play against, like, the AI
MassFit now, I'm just like, you just figure out
what they're capable of and just abuse them.
Just abuse what they're capable of.
Goon is the way in just life, everything.
You just have to find the game.
Just goon your way.
Yeah, if you could goon your way through life,
do it in a heartbeat.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm enjoying MassFet too.
I wanted to bring it up again.
It's just going to be a mass effect kind of month
or whatever, I'm afraid.
Yeah, I'm feeling that too.
And I'm glad.
Yeah, no, I was not expecting to kind of reconnect with this franchise at this point.
No, because I feel like I've been gaslit by Mass Effect 3's ending and then the entirety of Mass Effect Andromeda.
Yeah, like, it's funny how much optics, like, really affects stuff like that.
Yeah, especially Andromeda.
Yeah.
I remember, like, starting it and just being like, this fucking sucks.
Mass Effect just isn't very good, is it?
Yeah.
Like, you start convincing yourself.
All it takes is one and John.
Yeah.
That's one where it's like,
it might have been worth just eating the loss on it.
Yeah, I think they should have.
Because they have, they have killed Mass Effect.
They can't make a sequel.
Yeah, because they, like, release the trailer for this new one.
Like, months ago.
Did anyone?
No.
We talked about it on Corn.
Wait, new what?
A new Mass Effect.
I didn't know what?
When do we talk about...
What?
There's a new Mass Effect?
What?
Yeah, there's like a trailer for it on you.
YouTube and shit from months like this is what I mean
no one cared because
you did not know this is a thing yeah there's like a
CG trailer by where announced it
there's a new mass effect Leara is in the trailer
I think
I can't I might have got that wrong
now I feel like I have seen it
but I don't think I have this is what I mean
like it didn't connect it didn't mean
shit
because of the Andromeda
hmm
I genuinely
can't remember.
I can't think, yeah.
No, when we stop recording,
you're gonna, like, search him.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe you just didn't watch it.
But I don't think they can fix it.
It's pointless.
I think what they should have done
is Resident Evil 2
remaked Mass Effect 1.
Yeah, instead of doing this remaster.
Yeah, because then they could remake
the whole trilogy perfectly.
Yeah, change the ending in Mass Effect 3.
make it actually possible to make a sequel to,
because that's what truly fucked it.
You can't continue from what Mass Effect 3 gives you.
No.
And...
Yeah.
Because I went down that rabbit hole again.
When I was doing the washing up,
whatever,
I was watching the indoctrination theory.
Because I'd forgotten all about it.
Hasn't been on my mind...
Like, Mass Effect has been on my mind,
but not in this level.
Like, the actual story, the law and everything.
Yeah.
It'd like ejected from my mind.
up until this point. So I've been thinking about the ending a lot and I'm like getting all nervous
now because I'm like so into it and where it's like building up to, I know where it does conclude
so I want to be like prepared. Fascinating movement though. There was like two like nearly two
hour long documentaries that this guy made. Yeah. That he actually is deleted. You can only watch
them as re-uploads because he like got too much hate from it or something.
from his eyes, I don't know
you should just leave him, fuck
but...
They're masterpieces.
Yeah, it was like
such a
like kind of nostalgic thing
to go back and watch those videos
because it's like from such an old era now
yeah, such a different era
um
because in the first theory video
it was before they released the DLC
of, um,
uh, you know that first
well, it wasn't really a DLC
kind of a patch for the ending.
It was before,
that patch so we were saying like
they could fix this so easy if they just do
A, B and C, there's so much hope
they could, if they
they've got a decision here, they can either make
this the best franchise ever, the best
story ever or they can make it the worst
you know, or this kind of
this kind of stuff
yeah, yeah it's like
hyperbolic or whatever but
it's kind of true though. I think
I think they shouldn't have changed the ending
at all and not said that
the indoctrination theory wasn't real
and just stolen it.
Yeah.
Because it is a more satisfying ending.
Or at least not deny it.
Yeah.
I hate that they denied it.
Yeah, because they could have just left it.
Left it like lingering in people's minds.
Yeah, and then done this, where they remake Mass Effect 1,
Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3.
Triple 8th.
Yeah.
And then just have that as the ending to Mass Effect 3.
Boom.
And there's like a whole revelation moment.
I don't know.
Could you imagine?
Yeah.
But the three endings you're presented in 3,
Well, yeah, because I'd forgotten
that Mass Effect 3's script
leaked originally, or I don't know if it was a script
or the plot outline, some details on the story leaked
which led to them changing
the ending of the game
to whatever it is now
and on top of that, the game was rushed
and they did not have the time they needed for that game.
Like, I can't believe how quickly they made ME2
like, Sonyi, I think it only came out two years,
after...
No way.
Actually, it might have been three.
It might have been three.
No, MassFake 2 came out in 2012.
No, it was 2010.
MassFet 2 was 2010.
It was not 2012.
Yeah, because Massifet 3...
Remember, MassFit 3 originally was going to come out in 2012.
It was pushed to 2013.
No, it did come out in 12.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it was delayed, though.
Because EA wanted that shit out quick.
Yeah, fucking idiots.
They've ruined it.
Yeah.
They've ruined it, and then what do they do to fix it?
Mass Effect Andromeda.
Another rushed piece of shit.
Yeah.
It's fascinating, but kind of sad.
At least you got Mass Effect 2 out of it, though.
And 1.
And 1.
Both great.
The 2, they like nailed the whole formula a bit.
Well, I've got disappointing news.
What?
Some stuff's been leaked about the new battlefield.
instantly no interest in it
they're making
like modern times which is near
futuristic there's like leaked robot
dogs it's like advanced
warfare like ghosts
type stuff which is like
is it like because there was that battlefield
game that was like robot max fighting
2142
that was the old one
one of the old ones yeah that has like
a cult following because it's actually like
properly futuristic and it's all these unique game modes
but I don't think the new battlefield is going near
that they're just like it's modern but it's not
it's like futuristic yeah I've
heard a lot of shit about this being like a future
I thought near future fine
have like those
unless the robot dogs are like the real robot dogs
that exist it could be that's the thing
that could be creepy that would be yeah
that could be fine I'm not sure
like the screenshot looks it doesn't look like
futuristic I've seen a tiny screenshot
and it looks like
the vehicles and stuff are all
sci-fi yeah sci-fi
shit. I just, that's, like, I don't give your shit.
They need to, well, they
needed to, like, play
it safe.
I don't know, like, they just didn't go through, like,
all the major wars or whatever,
like, they would do it. They didn't need to.
They should have,
they should have,
battlefield, bad company to, Vietnam, is one
of the most, like, praised
battlefield things ever.
Incredible.
Just do a battlefield. I thought that was where they were going.
I could have sworn, like, after
World War II. They did, but they did World War I,
they could have done, like, the Korean War II.
or something.
Which is a thing
nothing, it's never been done
in a major game.
Yeah.
It's just like modern warfare,
the recent one,
we've talked about it loads,
we've praised Codd for all it's done.
It's modern,
but it's not futuristic.
It's modern now,
but it's not this futuristic,
and it nails it and it's fucking huge,
and everyone loves modern warfare.
Why can't Battlefield do that?
They've made so many fuck-ups recently
that it's like, how many more can they do?
Yeah, like going back to the EA
fuck-up optics thing.
Mm-hmm.
They really killed it with that.
It was the sequel to Battlefield 1, wasn't it?
Yeah, Battlefield 5, the trailer.
They killed the whole game with that one trailer.
Yeah, no, that was it, it was that trailer.
And then their, like, retaliation to the people that thought it was stupid,
that there was a woman with a robot arm in World War II.
If anything, it's just kind of disrespectful.
The robot arm thing.
Like, that was weird, really weird.
It's like they nailed it.
They nailed it really good with Battlefield 1.
Yeah.
It was just World War I
The trailer, the way the game opened
They fucking nailed it
So what do they do?
They take this
They take what they did with Battlefield Run
This realism grounded
And they made it just fucking stupid
In my Battlefield 5
Well I mean like they obviously took
Liberties with the World War I setting
Like had all these prototype weapons
That weren't actually used
But you know makes for fun game
Yeah
But like robot arm
Really?
It's like given all of the things
that happened in World War II
it's huge
there's so many aspects of World War II
there's never been like said or done
and you choose that
you could have World War II as the setting
and make tens of games surely
yeah
they did
that's what first person shooters
whatever for like 10 years
and it's just like why would you pick that
why would you pick this kind of weird
but if you want to
just don't make it World War II
have like this weird
else world like
shooty game
where like it's that sort of era
but you can take liberties
and have your own artistic
Valky Chronicles
that is World War II focus
but it does its own things
it's not set in fucking in the world
it's like its own thing
and it works
it works these huge fucking tanks
that are like
five stories tall
and dumb fucking cannons
it works
I'm way more interested in dice
making a battlefront three
and actually just doing it properly
because two is like in a space now
it's like man if this was the game
that came out
you've, like, launched.
Yeah, and then expanded on that.
Yeah.
See, the thing with the Battlefront three,
with the success of Fallen Order,
respawn are going to be,
might be pushed in,
therefore it will probably be good.
Because respawn,
they are the golders.
There's also just so much style of stuff now.
You could have, like,
bad batch content in your,
which I've been watching a little bit of.
Out of 10?
I wouldn't say,
you can really give it an out of ten rating yet
because there's only been like two or three episodes
Oh, is it releasing like that?
Yeah, yeah.
It's pretty good.
I like the gimmick of like
the clones being
the main characters of the bad batch
are like clones from Star Wars
that were like, went a bit wrong.
The bad batch?
Yeah, the bad batch.
But they're also like,
I don't know, they're quite distinct.
it's definitely
it's quite kiddie
in ways
yeah
but even more so
than some of the
clone war stuff I've seen
but
it's kind of sick
I'm just glad
people are getting it
and like Faloni's written it
he's got his fingers on it
he's the guy now
he's the guy
he's the guy
yeah
if you want to make new Star Wars stuff
you'd have to have his fingers on it
because he's like the weird
Pada one to George
did he
actually, like, work with George Lucas?
Yeah. On the Clone Wars.
That makes a lot sense.
I think, I think the story goes that George
plucked him.
Really?
I think.
Because I think he was on
Last Airbender or something.
Because he's on the first season of three
on The Last Air Vender.
And he does some of the best episodes, I think, from
season one, from memory.
Yeah. And then did a great job on Clone Wars
and just became the Padawan
master.
But are you not concerned
that the
Star Wars fatigue
given they've just
come out of a trilogy
and all that?
I would say we're already
in Star Wars fatigue.
I feel like
we're in post Star Wars fatigue.
Yeah.
I think episode nine
was the peak
of Star Wars fatigue.
And now it's like...
That was the point
everyone just agreed.
Yeah, nobody gave a shit.
Yeah.
We don't want Star Wars
if it's going to be this.
Mm-hmm.
You know.
But we talked about that
plenty. Before we go
into the second half
I did want to shout out
a movie Jim and I saw
yeah. That being
Akira Kurosawa's
ran
um
gosh where do you even begin
yeah
well it's a
classic samurai film
from 85 I think it was
yeah yeah I think so
um based on
King Lear
Shakespearean
work
I didn't know that
going into it
and I was sort of expecting
a somewhat schlocky
cowboy-esque
samurai film
simple hero villain type thing
yeah and
this film is like
existential crisis type shit
just everything about it though
is incredible
yeah it's masterful
even just like on a production level
I was
I was turned on to this movie
it would have been a few years ago now
when Ralph the movie maker
he uploaded his Ralph Recommends video on
this movie
and the imagery was burned into my
my retina
after seeing just a few clips
from his video
and I mean it applies to the whole movie
yeah
like it's such a vivid colour palette
and the costumes and the environments
that they
jump around
to. I was saying to you, um, you never think for a minute the time period of, of when the film
was made. It was made in the 80s, obviously, but it feels timeless. It feels like, it feels like
the era they represent. Yeah, it almost felt like a documentary, like somehow they'd got a camera
brought it back to that time and just filmed. It was that meticulous and these like,
just these dense shots of hundreds of people all in like this armor, like, recreating,
these battles is actually stunning
and the story
of course like if you're basing it off
like Shakespeare work you've got like a backbone
the strongest backbone possible to work off
but the way it's adapted into like Japanese culture
is so fascinating because I remember
in year I think it was year nine
like trying to study King Lear and Shakespeare
and just not being able to connect with it
I couldn't I think it was something to do with being that
age and just the way it's written it's so flowery and like you don't even understand english
like really yourself at that point so i could never connect but when when you see the story presented
in this way the main character is just such a tragic like like gut punch the um yeah i don't
spoil anything but like it has such an interesting journey with that main character
And I was, like, trying to, like, guess where it was going,
oh, this must be the payoff here.
Oh, no, it's going a different direction
that's way more interesting than I ever could have thought.
Yeah, it was masterful.
It was such a, like, joy.
Yeah, and it's one of those films that when it ends,
at first you're just like, what?
No, no, no, no, no.
You can't do this.
But after, like, 30 seconds, you were like, fucking hell.
It's just like so genius
Yeah, no
So I think that's the next
The next one to jump into
It's the various
Samurai Flips
Mirasawa movies
It's been a
Big spot of mine that I needed to fill in
It's all the old Japanese cinema
There's so much of it
There's so much great shit to find
Have you ever delved out of anime
And into live action Japanese film
No
No, because you can't watch them because you can't get them.
Well, I'm saying that, yeah, the only reason I watched it,
well, one of the main reasons I watched it is because on the Amazon BFI player,
whatever it's called, at the moment, a bunch of Curisar movies are on it for streaming.
So that's a good way of doing it.
There is a whole fucking bunch, like, really interesting Japanese movies I want to watch.
But I just can't, it's like, I think I've spoken about it.
about it before like this
I can't remember the name
Yakuza one that's
Itchy the killer
Oh yeah I've been wanting to watch that
But it's just like to watch it
I have to buy a 10-pound description
to a horror specific streaming service
I want to watch it because it's like
Looks vivid and looks fucking
Yeah yeah
But I'm not paying
I'm not adding another subscription
To watch one movie
There's loads of others
There's loads of like cool gangster movies
Like Yakuza ones and whatnot
Just can't watch
Because there's so much there
But it's just can't
I can't watch them.
I did see, though, that the creator of Berserk passed away.
Yeah.
Kentu O'Meua.
Do you think I'd like that?
Because everyone always brings up Dark Souls when it comes up.
Was it like a huge inspiration or something?
Berserk's absolutely a huge inspiration.
It's inspired like every single Japanese thing with swords in, basically.
Really?
Like Final Fantasy.
What's the hook?
What is, it's Guts story.
Guts is the main character, and it starts off.
as him, you know, as a young
merciline, it goes through his life and his
backstory and what happens
because there's the golden era arc,
golden arc, I think it is, where
that is the first arc
and how it ends is why you're like
fuck, I need to see this through. I need
to see fucking guts do this. So it's knights
fighting each other? Is there like a fantasy
element? No, there's a fantasy element. Yeah,
very much fantasy. There's gods
basically. There's like demon gods.
I can't, I'm
Berserk fans who are like, what the fuck, James?
Isn't why I've never seen anything from it
So I don't even know
Like with like death note or some shit
I know what the hook is
You know the book
It kills people
I don't know what it is
It's a guy with a huge sword
And he like fights monsters sometimes
Yeah
To get the hook
You need to see
You need to see the last episode
Of the first of the golden arc
Because it's just like
It all makes sense
Everything you just
You just know
And I can't spoil it
It's just like fuck
I've seen any of it
I've watched like
four episodes
on YouTube
there's no particular reason why I stopped
it's just like what it's always decent
with Berserk you've got the first original series
which is from like the 90s
it's quite cheap animation it's got its style
it's beautiful soundtrack mind
the meme soundtrack
it's super meme but you've also
it's difficult to watch unless you're a Bersert fan already
but there's a free movie
that recap the same arc, they both cover the same arc.
It's modern, the fight scenes are all CG, so they're bitter,
but all the actual close-up shots are hand-drawn,
and it covers the same thing really easy to watch,
and it is just the same, and it is also very good as well.
I'd honestly be tempted to get the manga.
I've read the manga, the art is fucking beautiful.
The way he draws...
Yeah, I've seen a bunch of...
I've seen pages from that and it does look impressive.
The shading he does on the face and the armour,
it's just like, how the fuck did you do this?
This is fucking mental.
I really like Berserk.
I own the limited edition of fucking Blu-Way and DVD.
I want to get some of the manga.
I really like it, but it's just like trying to read the manga,
it's like it's so long and it's not...
Yeah, that's the only barrier to entry.
Oh, was it like seasons and seasons type shit?
It's like infinite, isn't it?
It wasn't finished, wasn't it?
It wasn't finished, wasn't it?
actual years on a boat in the manga
at nine physical years
for one boat journey
like it's
I'd be curious to see what the jailings say
berserk is crazy I think you should
watch it it's crazy
I love berserk
if enough people tell me it's worth it like they did for
Avatar
yeah the thing is there's no there's like nothing to lose
they're 20 minute episodes
that's just and they're all on YouTube
the only thing that stops me is just when it's not
on a streaming service I already have.
Because when it is, then it's like, well,
Avatar's there, I'm just gonna fucking...
It's just so convenient.
That's what I mean, though, like YouTube...
Yeah, I didn't realize it was all on YouTube.
Yeah, I just randomly went...
James mentioned that I should watch it.
Yeah, because I was watching it at the time.
I was like, at work, it's just like, berserk work.
Because it's easy.
You'd be surprised, like, how many movies are on YouTube?
Like, full movies.
And it's going to get better and better with that stuff
with the, just the older...
The older movies that get into the public domain
that would just be allowed to be on YouTube.
It's actually becoming quite a good resource for finding movies.
It's how I watched a Raw, I think it was,
that weird movie with all the lions and tigers and leopards and shit
that these mental people had like in this...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, people know what I'm on about.
Well, I'm just trying.
checking what the movies are streaming
on. And
Netflix has popped up.
Oh, is it on there?
It might be on the American ones.
You might be able to. Oh, yeah, yeah.
But the thing with Berserk, it's much like
fucking Andromeda. It had a recent anime that was
fucking all-CG, really cheap
C-G. It was the meme.
It was just like everyone was slagging off the recent Berserk thing.
But it's like, if you watch the movies, I don't know
people's reception on them but they're the easiest way to watch it they're all like two hours
long free movies boom then you get to the last scene and it's just like you're fucking like
getting like fucking mad and it's it's great just watch berserk just read berserk because that
man was a fucking legend and his his art his work deserves to be appreciated
there is something to be said about these long form stories that
often come to fruition in in TV shows
there is something about it where you can just
properly really with a lot of depth
explore so many different fucking ideas in a way that you just
come on in a movie
I find it to be like the most satisfying
way of because you're combining
like a movie is two hours of like
you have a lot of room in there to explore a lot of things
but you do have only two hours you're limited
but in a show you have so much room to explore
so many ups and downs of different characters
and just really delve deep into whatever you want to
Yeah I think it's a great way for you to go on an arc with a character
Because you have so much time to be with that character
You can sort of learn to agree with them
Yeah
And understand why they're doing things
That might be wrong but you're still like on their
side and there's such a skill to um and this is on my mind because of that amazon prime show
invincible of like establishing a story and having like the greater narrative like hook and then
having smaller stories going on to like distract you from the greater one um it's just so satisfying
the way that they can come together and that's a good show i'd recommend um yeah i need to watch
I knew what else
What?
We're jumping around like crazy
We're just going
We are
This is on sort of
Annamakers
Peserk
I've almost
finished season two of Jojo
Oh cool
Yeah
We've had loads of questions
We're asking for updates on that
I can't fucking
I love fucking Jojo so much
I hate myself
That I was like
Ooh Jojo
For so long
Because I'd been on
fucking 4chan anime boards
And it's just like
Ew Jojo
Jojo is fucking sick man
It's so fucking cool.
So what?
Do you like it more now than season one or?
No, I get season two's like done as fuck and I love it.
Like I like because I'm trying to watch it because I used to watch anime on in bed on my on my phone on this, you know, it's tiny screen.
So what I'm trying to do now is I'm trying to watch it on the big screen in my lounge, but my parents aren't home Monday morning or when I'm off work.
And I've had such better time by doing that.
so I can only watch it at certain days of the week
but between then I'm like listening to the opening
and I'm just like fuck man Jojo
yeah you can't watch you on the phone
you just watch the opening
watch Star Dust Crusaders the opening
it fucking pops
what do you watch it on? It's on Netflix
really? Oh is it?
Season 1 and 2 on Netflix
I didn't realize it was on Netflix
I might watch it then maybe I'll give it a show
no honestly I'll just show you the opening after this is done
and you will get it
It's so fucking good.
Okay.
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Irresponsible Gajun is going to start us off.
If the jar boys with the crew of a World War
two bomber, what would their roles be?
Pilot, bombardier,
ball turret, gunner, etc.
No, the bull...
See, the bulltor gunner, position in one
specific American plane was underneath
the proper bull toot, and
that's the one you don't want to be in.
Yeah, the most expendable person
gets to go in the bull turret.
Because if the hydraulics in the plane failed
from getting shot, you can't withdraw
we're in for landing, so you just get
crushed to death as the plane landed.
Yeah, but also, like, if you're bombing a place,
and they're shooting up at the plane
you're in a glass ball
beneath the plane
so you're just getting shredded
so I'll volunteer for the ball
I'll take the ball
no because you got the puck
I don't know how many are there
I watched like a weird
YouTube video of like a turret gunner
being like interviewed I think it was one of those
like lad by Billy type videos
or whatever
you're saying like
yeah you've got to like switch your mind off at a certain point
because like the people you're gunning down
and like a fucking a being
obliterate before your eyes and you've got to sort of check out at a certain point.
Was this the AC130 guy, the Winnie the Pooh?
That sounds right, yeah.
Yeah, it was a war veteran like Gunner interviewed in VR chat and he's Winnie the Pooh.
It's like the darkest thing.
Yeah, it's like one of those algorithm videos where it was.
Yeah, I've seen it on my feet.
Yeah, everyone's seen it recommended.
Yeah, I actually started watching it so it was like funny.
Winnie the Pooh
Yeah, I watched the whole thing
Or Kermit the Frog or something
And yeah
I watched like five minutes of it
And I was like, this is just like
It's really dark
Dark and sad
Yeah
So I went off it
But it is like
It's a well-made video
Hmm
Back to the question
I'll be the pilot then
Because I'm good at flying things
And driving things
Someone of us has got to be good
At dropping bombs
Where they need to go
Who's the turret guy
Jamie's the bull bull turret guy
yeah I'm bull turret
what's even left for me to do
bombardier you drop the bombs
Is that what the bombardier does I guess
Bombadier
How do they control that
Do they have like a lever
It's like a sight line
You sit in it and it's a sight line
And it's like
So far ahead that when you get to it
In your sights you drop them
And then they're falling
You just sit there and kill
Or you can be like navigation
Like you know
There's loads of position
Or you can be a co-pilot
You know
It's a bummer.
Well, actually, on this topic, tighter than Bark on, has a question.
Hey, boys, I saw Saving Private Ryan recently, because it was leaving Netflix in the USA.
It was such a well-made war movie.
It reminds me of how much James loves that movie.
Made me wonder, what are some of your guys' favorite war movies?
Cheers, mates.
Well...
I happened to re-watch that movie a few months ago, because I saw it there on Netflix.
It is very good.
It's very...
I just like the concept of the group, the rag-tag group
that has to defend against the odds
that they just absolutely should never be able to win against.
It does come together really well at the end.
Yeah.
It is hard to beat.
Yeah, as like a movie that's pure spectacle,
it is the best.
It's just like, if you want...
Vin Diesel.
Carries the film on his shoulders.
If you want something that's pure visual,
that's the best one.
But if you want, obviously, if you want,
something that's got a bit more meaning it's like
Apocalypse Now, full metal jacket
I always forget the one that
Platoon, that is an incredibly good film
Yeah, I'm still
I'm still wanting to watch Apocalypse now
Because it's like, I want to watch Apocalypse Now and Platoon
I've never seen them
Yeah, um
Yeah, Platoon is up there
Um
Yeah, Apocalypse Now
Um
This is gonna sound lame but
Even that's only a portion of the film
I think Forrest Gump
really yeah
that whole
I suppose it does have war involved in it
yeah the the Vietnam bit
and then the way it continues
throughout the movie like post war
with a lieutenant Dan
that whole shit
it emotionally just hits home
um
enough one that I have seen
which I do like is Black Hawk Down
yeah you used to be obsessed with that
very good very good movie
it's like there's so many incredible war movies
that I just haven't seen
like you know
RAN is on here apparently
yeah like
The Deer Hunter
Finn Red Line
We were soldiers
there's loads of incredible war movies
Have you seen Dunkirk?
Yeah
I was on the cinema
Yeah of course
I thought would that be up there
No
That's visually incredible
Yeah I only saw that once
I've actually got it on 4K
I need to rewatch it
Yeah
I only think that movie
like saying
Pry of Mine has likable characters
Dunkirk is only visuals
It's only good at visuals
It's like there's nothing else going
Yeah because that's why
That's right
That's why I didn't rewatch it
Because I heard it isn't as effective
On like the home screen
Compared to in the
I saw it in the cinema
And you know
They're on the beach
And the dive bombers are coming in
It's screaming
It's so loud
Yeah
That's why you watch that movie
I'd never
What is she doing
No stop doing that on the cast
That is minging
What have you been doing?
She's like licking her asshole and then just breathing everywhere.
She licked her ass on and then her like this splutter.
It like really smells now, but, so.
This is why we don't want you on here.
Pays got dingled.
Dingle brad.
Yeah, dinglebrat.
My answer would be, um, come and see is a war movie that, um, I recommend it for Sardonicast.
It's like a Russian war movie. It's really fucked.
Come and see?
Wait, no, I think I remember, I've been told
The poster's like the little boy with the...
Yeah, come and see.
It's about like war trustees, isn't it?
Come and see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It didn't, like, there was difficulties
of it being made, apparently.
Oh, yeah, the Russian government, I didn't want it to happen.
Yeah, the backstory's fascinating for that one.
Yeah, no, I do, that's another one I need to see.
Yeah, there was a period where I was avoiding them
because I just found them so...
Depressing.
Deeply depressing, but...
like humans and war
just go hand in hand
you can't really
ignore it at a certain point
no
does Star Wars count
yeah
like that he does
like the originals
Jonathan SVG 11 has one for you Jim
it's the poo breath
getting to you
yeah it's fucking getting to me as well
she's panting as well
yeah it's awful
did Jim ever finish community
I'd love to hear his quick thoughts
on the series as a whole
also Mr Robot
Um
Yeah, I did finish
Mr. Robot
Um, community
I can't remember if it was season four or five
I just fell off it
You got to the shit bit
Yeah
But I'm pretty sure I pushed
I pushed past the shit bit
To where it got kind of good again
But
I normally lose steam by then as well
Because I was rewatching it around the same time
You're watching it for the first time
And I always fall off once it gets shit
In the off season
There was like a
golden age of it, the
first three seasons. One to three, yeah.
It's like Arrested Development.
Hmm. Yeah.
I don't think
it ever got as bad as
Arrested Development. As what
Arrested Development turned into.
I found out recently there are like
hordes of people that like
think the Netflix seasons are like
underrated.
I think they're really bad, the
arrested development. They're not funny.
No. You're like never laugh. They're so
fucking awkward and weird.
yeah
but even with the bad seasons
of
community
the cast does
sort of carry it a bit
and that's why the show starts falling apart
in my opinion is because the cast starts leaving
yeah yeah
the best characters just
there was a really weird bit
just before I
stopped watching
where I noticed that
in a certain episode
Chevy Chase is like green screened into a scene.
Oh really?
Yeah.
It's like a shot reverse shot,
but he's obviously like not there.
That's awkward.
And when that happened, it was like...
That's a real problem in Arrested Development.
Yeah.
In that weird Netflix season.
Yeah, yeah.
Really bizarre.
Yeah, I'd never made that connection,
but they are oddly linked in that way where they went.
Well, Mr. Robot, though,
because you finished that one's ago
would have been at this point.
Mr. Robot is probably in my top three, maybe top two best TV shows of all turn.
Damn.
I didn't realize it was that high for you.
It was a show that was so good to me.
It became like a part, especially in lockdown, like a part of my life.
And when it ended, I felt like, well, no, I feel that.
I definitely feel that when I'm like, when I have a new, like, story, when I've got my new story, when I'm like, when I have the, like, when I have the wire.
or something when I've got my avatar
you feel like you've got your purpose
while you're just going through the story
getting all the beats and then it ends
and you feel like
it's something lost.
Yeah, especially in ending
like Mr. Robot that's
incredibly melancholy.
It's
so melancholy.
You think so?
It's the definition of melancholy.
Because
it's not sad
but you've lost something.
you know um yeah i think it's a must watch and
it's a show that i'm sure would be talked about more if it wasn't
like early amazon prime
do you think so you can give it it was on like netflix or something yeah or HBO
yeah i could see that but it everything about it it's got this this perfect tone
it's got this perfect tone that's like it it
It knows when to add levity, but it never takes away from when it's being serious and shit.
Yeah, masterpiece, straight up.
I don't think there is even a bad episode that I can think of.
Maybe this is why we never have dogs on the cast anymore.
Yeah, they're fucking annoying.
Stop!
They just sit there, just like, licking her entire body.
She's licking the floor where...
She's just licking the carpet.
I don't have assholes though
He's just fucking ass floor
That's so crazy
Should be gay
Left a comic course
Do you guys get annoyed when Americans
refer to you as being British
Do you have any preference between the labels
British and English
It used to annoy me
Yeah I remember when I was like a teenager
It used to annoy me
I'm not British, I'm English
I'm actually English though
It's the same fucking thing
Yeah I don't care
Yeah, I mean, I'm, I prefer Britain as a thing that includes
Stop, genuinely stop it, stop it
Stop it
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
She's so gross
You sloppy fucker
No, no
I think
discretion needs to be turned the opposite way round
How so?
Because I've been called racist before
because I referred to an American
as an American
What do you mean?
Yeah, I called an American
an American
And they called me racist
What?
What were they meant to be called?
A Floridian
I don't know
Like who actually
Like people
From the United Kingdom
Why does it matter of
Yeah I don't give a shit
I think
I prefer Britain as a thing
as opposed to England.
I think Britain is a much better
catch-all.
Flip-flops has one for us.
What games do you guys
think utilise the medium of video games
best in order to tell their story?
Speck-ups line.
Simple question.
Answer, that's it.
I don't know.
I'm trying to think of
games where you actually cannot experience anything like it without it being a video game
Speckops line
I can't add to that because I don't know about specups
no it is it is an answer
why
because it's your involvement in private walkers
well my problem my problem is that I feel like that story would still be fine and work
without being a video game
like it's still like interesting
Yeah, that's the thing it could
Whereas like
I don't know if it fully applies
But I think of the way Red Dead 2
The way with the map
And the way the map
Kind of reacts
See no I don't think it's fair
Because
Just because we've just gone from Spackrofts to Red Dead
They're in two completely different eras of gaming
Where gaming's become so much more advanced
But I think it's more possible to make games
They're only terrible through games
Yeah I'm trying to think of the media
It depends because, like, uh, Bioshock, obvious answer.
The, the story it's telling is about the medium of games.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
But it doesn't necessarily utilize the fact that it's a game to put you in that position.
Mm-hmm.
But it, but it, also it does.
It is a story that can't be told in any other medium.
No, it wouldn't work.
I feel like companies like Rocksteady are quite good at, no.
Um, uh, birth of the wild.
That just wouldn't work at all.
Um, the stories.
It depends what you mean by story.
Because there's like the story of that game, which is trash.
Yeah.
Or like the stories that you make through experiencing.
Is that like a, uh, is that considered like a bad take that like the cut scenes in that game?
No, everyone agrees.
Yeah, okay, good.
Shit.
No, um, when I played it again, I had to change it to the Japanese voice.
voice acting
or subtitles
to make it bearable
See that's probably why
I swear I went wrong
I went for the fucking
Yeah you should have done that
You're used to reading subtitles
Yeah I'm a proper weave
Um
Definitely
Not games like the Last of Us
Yeah because they're
They're trying to be more cinematic
Yeah
They're trying to be movies
Of TV or miniseries
I think like the old
Or still
The cod games
For the most part
The Last of Us games Uncharted
They're kind of reductive
To what a video game can be
What about something like Mass Effect then
Where it's almost like
The logical next step of your like
Choose Your own adventure books or something like
Yeah
I think Mass Effect is good
But I'm sure you could make a Mass Effect movie work
Well
Now but the whole like choice
Is part of it
Yeah it is
Because I've never been down with this
this like mass effect movie i think that's an awful idea person no i'm not saying it should be
done but i think if video games like in an alternate dimension video games never existed and
mass fake could exist i think the universe could be put into a book or a film i feel like there is
like a better example of i i think the witcher three is a better example of the choice thing
being integral because it's not a case of i'm going to be a good guy for this run i'm going to be a
bad guy for this run
because I'm doing
renegade on my
mass effect thing
and like
you are just straight
up a fucking
asshole
you're like a monster
a despicable person
even in one
like there was this
this mentally ill guy
in the first level
and I just knocked him out
I just punched him
because he was
annoying Shepard
like
yeah he's
he's pretty
mustache twirling
yeah
he's a terrible guy
but yeah
the Witcher
that's been
I say that
It's been, I don't think this question, like New Vegas, you can't make that of anything else.
Yeah.
It's New Vegas.
Yeah, totally.
Because New Vegas is sort of like with the Mass Effect where it's almost like a future and adventure.
But even more so.
Like you can't, how can you adapt a New Vegas story to like a TV?
You fucking can't.
I think New Vegas is like pushed so far into the cheese your own adventure thing that it's like become its own thing.
You cannot adapt whatever they were doing.
with like defeats the point
like adapting it
but at the same time
there's what Fallout 4
you could fucking easily adapt
because it's got none of New Vegas
like easily just main story
boom
yeah totally
but um
the question was about
utilising games as a medium right
utilize the medium of video games
best in order to tell their story
yeah it's such an obvious
I'm trying to think of like
games that achieve a story
without relying on breaking
the player experience
down to cutscenes that are mimicking movies.
I'm thinking more like the ending of Arkham Knight
where it was like an interactive, you know,
you remember the way that...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Rocksteady are incredible at that sort of thing.
But to go back to The Witcher,
what's surprising to me is that...
I've read like three of the books.
Mm-hmm.
And the games, specifically three, do a better job than a TV show at adapting, like, that character.
And you do feel like that character when playing The Witcher 3.
Yeah, I guess, um, how do you feel about games like inside or limbo or something like that?
Or even Dark Souls where Dark Souls, I think Dark Souls, Sekereoos, it's like the,
I do think Sekira.
It's the pinnacle of, um, like there is no, uh, what's that fancy game journalist word?
Oh, pseudo-narrative dissonance.
Yeah, there's none of that because the story is built around it being a video game.
But it's also a good story.
So, yeah, Sekra is a good one because you, you can just ignore the story completely.
Mm-hmm.
But there is all the, all the clues to contextualize.
the world around either.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think it's
crucial for
for games to
tell a story
in a way that embraces
like the way
as video games can tell stories.
I don't think you have to have choices.
No.
Yeah, I'll have to think on that one, to be honest.
There's something in the back of my mind
that feels like is screaming at me
but I can't find what it is right now.
You know, one actually is Resident Evil 2.
Really? Why?
Because you feel like you are trapped in a horrible place and you are...
It's just the fact that it's so efficient at scaring you,
even though the consequences are nothing, essentially.
Like true horror.
You are always motivated, though.
You always feel like you're motivated.
yeah yeah yeah and uh resident evil eight even like and seven yeah they work in that way and uh a game
i brought up ages ago uh dark wood mm-hmm that is yeah it's like a perfect um mesh of story and game
it makes you do shitty things
because like that's what you would have to do it's the only way you can progress
and yeah because that reminds me of something like papers please
yeah no that that is the peak
that's the best utilization of story
told through a video game I've ever played
really yeah without a doubt yeah
it is a gene it's just something about finding like the
simplicity, the angle
the simple angle to get you in and
then making it more complex.
Just the idea of making
the video game a job.
Mm-hmm. Like it makes
so much sense and like...
Yeah.
It's a fascinating
question though and it's what is so interesting about
video games to me is that
you can just do like movie shit
if you want. You can do that or you can do
something that like no one's ever even conceptualized
before. You can use some crazy shit
no one's even thought of and both are like legitimate and respected within the same industry
it's cool it's very yeah i don't think we're interesting i don't think we're anywhere near
um like what video games can do what they're capable of yeah yeah i think we've scratched the
surface yeah because i was thinking a bit of control which is a game i played early this year
and that game gets like truly like wacky and weird and like they they just do not care about any restrictions they just do whatever they want and that is really really fun real existing person has an interesting one
I recently watched your old video on Morty Press, and I remembered that in a previous cast you mentioned how that character was based on an awkward friend of your parents or something.
The representation of this person seemed a bit cruel, you know, saying things like nobody attended his funeral, and I was just wondering if you could clear some things up about this guy.
If you really was as weird as you portrayed him, or if it's just a childish exaggeration of reality, this isn't a pressing question by any means.
I just felt the video in the background story was fascinating. Have a nice day.
So, see, I wasn't involved in Maltipest, so...
That was just the you and me.
Yeah, that was just, we're like walking for one day.
I just filmed you being cranky.
Yeah, yeah.
It wasn't like parodying someone I knew.
Yeah.
What I was probably referenced in that cast was that...
There was this guy like Dad knew.
He was like a photographer or like an...
I think he might have been an amateur photographer or something.
And the only reason he was notable to me,
Well, like, wacky to me is that he had, like, this crazy hair, like, that just went out.
It was, like, long gray hair that just went crazy.
And he was always wearing these, like, weird, like, leggings that were, like,
you know, when a guy, like, wears leggings, they've obviously got junk there.
So there's always going to be, like, a fucking weird bulge if you're wearing shit like that.
So that was the guy I was referencing.
And, like, that was maybe where I got the idea for, like, a quirky, weird.
photographer or something.
Man with a huge junk is what you're
based the whole character.
But yeah, it wasn't like, it was
like some guy that like my dad knew
and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna make fun of him
by like...
Yeah, it was spare of the moment.
Like...
Yeah, no, it was just like walking...
There was no plan, yeah, we were
walking flossie and you had your camera.
Yeah.
Who is this person you were talking about that?
I don't think you ever met him.
Really?
Yeah, I mean, I did.
Yeah, because it was around the time
I was doing photography.
I think it's sick form right um yeah so that maybe it was another inspiration you can't
answer weird questions like that because we don't know it's just like it is it's just a creation
you know well yeah maybe i could see someone putting it together in their head like wait
so what you made this like video to make fun of this person you know or something but like that
no we made videos to make fun of ourselves is what we actually that's what it's all about
Yeah, we just really wanted to be bullied
Yeah, and bullied we were
Let me show
Fucking worth
Speaking of being bullied
Holden Cases says
Hey guys, your comments on history
Was super interesting
As I'm a history minor at university
And study history for fun in my free time
I know you guys discuss different eras
But what do you think would be the worst historical event to live through?
I have seen a video on this
Like there was like a
There was some person who knows some
thing so that there is this
definite, definite, like, time
that is the worst. Oh, really? Because it was, like,
post, like, Black Plague or something,
or, like, all these other various fuck situations.
Yeah, no, when I read this question,
the plague, like, was the first thing that jumped
him to my head. No, the, the plague
is fucking disgusting.
You'd get, like, these
bulbous, like,
balls of blood on your body.
And they'd, like, pop
and it'd just fucking
blood everywhere. What a
Fitting word for it, though.
Yeah.
The plague.
It would be something like that.
It's like you can't compare
normal times to like something like the fucking
black death. It's just like
this is agonizing death over months
to normal other events.
Like if you think of the eruption
of Kakatoa and that plunge
to like most of Europe into a
fucking like winter for the
fucking year, probably miserable.
Loads of people died through starvation.
Terrible.
I mean the, the, the first of,
fact of the matter is there's countless historical events you could choose that would be like
yeah that one in russia was it definitely russia where they had to start like putting up signs
and shit saying don't eat your children yeah like that must have been pretty fucking bleak
unless they just really liked eating children i just feel like even even being a soldier on a side
that wasn't like on the losing side
and would still be...
Just being a grunt in the trenches in World War I
That's a good answer actually
After I watched that Peter Jackson documentary about World War I
I still need to watch that.
And there's like a section about like
People that died just getting stuck in like the mud
So you don't even think about it on that level
It's like yeah
In the trenches when they're just like all this dig in
It's raining the terrain
Like it just gets so sloppy and gross
and if it's just like a war zone
and they've got no prep
you're just fucked
you do get your trench foot
you are eaten by rats
you've got no supplies
but even that
even if you're surviving fine
and like
you're it's very likely
that you're fucked up in some way
like you have trench foot
and then suddenly
oh your side decides
to use mustard gas
on the enemy
oh wait the wind's changed
yeah
I'm just being mustard gas
and then there's the
mental side on top of that as well
you're like you're there
with all your friends or whatever
you don't know what's going
it's yeah you're like a
you cannot actually conceptualise
quite how horrendous
it would be
shows like band of brothers
like they do their best try and like they have
the interviews with the people that are actually
there trying to describe it
and it is so emotionally engaging
watching these people just describe
what they went through but you'll never
understand it on the fucking level they did.
Yeah, and I'm fucking glad I don't.
Yeah, it's hellish, it's hell.
So some medieval historian has said that the worst time to be alive was 536,
because there was like this weird, there was this fog over Europe
and it plunged the entirety of Europe into darkness for 18 months, night and day,
and dropped temperatures to like 1 degrees.
Oh, my God.
And then, like, after that, there was a fucking plague, like, a few years after that.
And it's known it in history as, like, the dark ages.
And nobody knows why.
The dark ages.
Because it's just, just fucking dark and one degrees all year.
Yeah, that's apparently one of them.
Honestly, once you start removing, like, plumbing and just, like, basic shit and tape for granted.
Everything's fucking shit.
Yeah, like, just anyone from our society, like, plucked and just put back, like,
The moment time is drawn like Nero's Wayne
where he's just killing people.
Yeah, we're just miserable.
In the same way, we're softer.
Yeah, we are way softer.
I couldn't live 100 years ago.
A hundred?
I think I'd cope with 100.
200?
No, fucking good.
No, you're forgetting how shit it would have been.
100 years.
In 1920s?
1921.
You really want to be around in 1921?
Wait.
No, 19.
Yeah, that would have been P.
Spanish flu.
Yeah, so you
just roll the dice
in history.
No, that is like a
weird thing though. Every 100
years, there's a...
There's a fucking calamity.
There's a...
There's a... Do a flu?
Not just a calamity, a
pandemic.
Mm.
Or at least epidemic.
It's COVID issue, man. It's just cycles.
Yeah.
It's Spanish flu.
Everything is cycles.
Well, we're not going to live through the next one, so...
Yeah.
Good luck.
Fucking loser.
Disappointment soup has a weird one.
If given one year prep time and $75,000,
Kajar take down one Roman legion,
around 4,200 infantry and 300,000...
Sorry, 300 cavalry.
The battlefield is up to you.
After the year prep time is over,
the Romans epically teleport in through an Avengers port.
and will not leave until jar is destroyed.
You cannot hire outside help with the 75,000.
Um...
So how, so what, how many...
That's 4,000, right?
So 4,200 infantry and 300 cavalry.
So we're talking about...
We're talking about a legion of Romans, right?
I think the fact that you can't hire anyone means we're...
Yeah, yeah, kind of.
But also, how much ammo can you buy, like...
in America for 75 grand
If we just went to America
Dude yeah
If we all just armed up in America
Loads of weapons
Just like a turret
See no
Yeah because they wouldn't have any
Yeah what the fuck could they do
Like a shield made out of leather
No but here's the thing
Four of us
No because they would overwhelm us
Yeah there's thousands of them
You can't win in that situation
You'd have to play it where
You'd have to
I was just a playing cost
Like, yeah, like a helicopter
They can do anything
See, no, because helicopter doesn't
You say you have 70 grand
Yeah, we're not going to be able to buy a helicopter
And machine guns
We can get like a cheap second-hand one
Fucking what, I'll be
Like, you know the little fucking far-quite ones
Yeah, yeah
All the madmats ones
Yeah, I was just googling like
Roman defeats
Because to actually win
You've got to consider environment
What environment would best suit
lesser numbers against huge numbers
because there's loads of times in history
position that they've got around
yeah high ground
with your helicopter or tarot
machine guns yeah just loads of machine guns
just four mounted machine guns
as they're trying to come up the hill
or something has to be like a hill
no no because that might work
because if you're constantly finding a machine gun
you're going to blow the bow eventually from overheating it
well then we buy loads of them and just change
75 grand's worth
how much do you think a machine
guns were, boys, what? You don't even
need, like... Okay, though, let's
machine gun, machine gun. No, just whatever
gun is equipped to take out a Roman,
you know? Well,
M2-49 sore
cost, let's see, that, they nine...
No, not a saw, not a saw.
Why not? Think
Russian.
Like an RPD?
Yeah.
B-D. Like...
R-P-D.
Um, apparently...
I'm just getting stock prices.
No, you'd have to
This is a difficult one because it's like...
No, the truth is it's unwinnable.
No.
It's the numbers.
No, no, no, it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
Because what were the Romans good at, white?
Land battles.
What were they bad at?
Sea battles.
We put the Legion on boats, so then they can't get us because they're melee.
One speedboat with the turret on the back.
They go here.
Oh, yeah, that's the point.
Yeah.
What did they actually do?
When they come through the portal, though, would they just fall out into the ocean?
No, I imagine them like,
charging out like in the movie.
No, but if we're in the middle of the ocean
and they charge out, they just fall down
into the sea. Because those
boats would be
fucking... Yes. So they
so the cavalry wouldn't be able to do anything
because they're on a fucking boat.
So they would be in their armour
with their little fucking little spiky
bridges to get us and we just have a speedboat
with a fucking flame thrower.
They're built up with wood.
Just a bit. Boom.
Yeah. I think
your tactical prowess has won
the day for us James
it's just time I'm open the women's
versus the carfet
the carfid and they were like
a sea
like military
boom
genius
history knowledge
boom
let's do a couple more here
tied to your apron has one
hi lads a recent cast was named
after a question my brother asked
disagree to agree agree
is the one
though we are
Both past the points in our lives when we were obsessed with entertainers, I'd be lying if we didn't both get really excited over this.
He said it feels like he's made a sort of contribution to the cast, and I can definitely understand why.
Jara's a big part of our entertainment diet, and I've been following Alex since IHE had about 10K subs,
so to not only have the question read, but also highlighted in the way that it was is pretty epic, especially for him.
I was wondering if any of you had a similar experience with anyone you follow
whether it be acknowledgement at some sort of event
or having a comment highlighted by a YouTuber
Cheers Ming as keep up the terrible work
IHE because I had my own fucking segment
Maybe
Yeah
Nah um
I've been
I, there's a YouTuber I like he he's a car guy and he's in Japan
And he was just posting this thing like
Yeah this this fucking website's
These other YouTubers just stole my content
And I was just like, yeah, I'm a YouTube
And that's a fucking bullshit
And I don't support those channels
And he was just like
Yeah
It's like in this agreement
And it was just nice
I got a reply from Drang bricks
When I asked him how he does his stickers so well
Ever since he gave me the advice
To use tweezers to apply stickers
So it changed again
Yeah
Of course he knows like
All the trick tips of tricks
gotta go to jam bricks for any
like a tips
oh no there's a time I got
I got a knowledge
by that fucking watch mojo guy
oh
yeah
you know I often think about that
that fucking watch mojo email I got
the guy who like
runs watch mojo whatever
I felt like I was I laughed so hard because I was
like 20 years old like
at this email from the guy who runs watch mojo
like listen kid
It's like the cringiest fucking email
And I couldn't believe
Because to me it's like the ultimate win
Like being like the troll
Like trying to get
Yeah an attention from them
Trying to get attention from people
And you get like an email from the guy who runs
Watch Mojo
This site you fucking hate
This channel you fucking have no respectful
And they send you this email on there like
And you're just like
Man I really got to you
I clearly really fucking got to you
With what I said in that fucking
Five minute video
Which means there must have been true
to it
yeah I mean
who can
deny
but I mean
they've met
Tom Holland
and you haven't
so
yeah
yeah
I'm saying
that next week's
a guest
is that
Mark Rapale
um
it was a big deal
to me
um getting like
spill
yeah
I knew that
would be one for you
um
yeah
you used to
ask them questions
didn't you
yeah
They had a similar segment
I always liked that
like sending in questions to podcasts
I listen to and stuff
Yeah that was my kind of thing
Yeah I don't really have one
To be honest
I'm trying to think
Yeah
I don't really use
The internet in that way
Most people don't
Most people don't comment
Yeah
It's just freaks like me
They do
Hmm
Stinky
Let's do this one from Adventurous airline
Happy Victoria Day
Gunas
I just started drinking
And I've had a few beverages that I like
White Claws, some ciders
But I really am not enjoying beer
I've had Bud Light and a Corona
I was wondering what some of your beverages of choice are
And what's some good beers to get started with
I'm definitely not Carlsberg
That shit sucks
yeah um corona
nah you only have that with family
is it quite normal to not light beer at first
for sure gravitate towards the siders you're
yeah sweet shit's easier yeah just sweet things that don't taste of alcohol
and then most people don't go from beer to just whiskey
like I did I just skip the beer
yeah you skip beer you skip cider I suppose it's like
I just like wiseries and like spirits with like coke or lemonade
whatever yeah um
Best lager is
Birramaretti
Beautiful
Corona is only really nice with lime
Yeah you need to buy
If you don't have that slice of lime
Yeah trash
Um
Peroni
Peroni's good
It's nice
It's good yeah
Honestly on the cheapest side of things
Bex
Bex ain't bad
This one's that 64's nice
Yeah 64's a good
Like middle ground
Um
Yeah, like Budweiser and shit
It's very watery
I can't
I can't the Budweiser
It's very tasteless
Yeah
Which I'm fine with
Like it's fine
But
But
I used to be much more into ales
But they're so hearty
That's the thing
I really
I love the taste of oils
I like that experience
old speckled hands are heavy though old speckled hands i don't think i don't think americans are getting
old speckled hen well they should they'd be a prodigy because this person was talking about american
like white claw which is definitely yeah true and cider and stuff so it's like it's hard to give
advice when they're the alcohols in our countries and their gunches are bad light have you ever had
bud light no uh maybe once and was it it's just that same like fizzy almost water piss
like slight tinge of
lager taste
which is fine
but you know
there's yummier out there
without a doubt
so I'm just I'm not a drinker
like I haven't drank in the last
like two three months
like if I want to drink I just want to have cocktails
I shouldn't have like those type of drinks
and not like spirits because you can have less
yeah it's the quantity of lager
that for me that starts putting me off
once you've had like three four pints
It's just such quantity of liquid
that you're just shoving inside your poor tummy.
Yeah, it's not comfortable.
Meanwhile, just a glass of whisky and I'm like,
oh, yummy, feeling a bit loose.
Let's end on this one then from Warlock, Wabit,
bringing it back to Mass Effect.
After hearing the Mass Effect discussion,
I have an important question.
Who are your love interests, if any,
and who are your main bros?
Okay, so let's...
This is so easy.
You got Caden.
You got Jacob.
No.
You got James Vega.
Garis is the...
Oh, James.
Garris is the bro.
Yeah, Garris is the guy.
Garis is, I love...
Nothing, no one would be as good as Gareth.
He is just the sweetheart.
I love him.
Yeah, his whole story is awesome.
He's got...
Yeah, he's just the...
The soft actor is incredible.
His voice is...
The smoothness of that voice.
Fuck, man.
There's lions.
Yeah.
Tali's a white.
He's the bro.
I've got a...
soft spot for Grunt. I don't know
why. Really? Do you know what I get
when I think of Grunt
I kind of get this, it's like
Argy but like huge
Yeah and he's voiced by
the main guy from Cowboy Bebop
The like English version
Is he?
That voice actor that's in everything
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Oh that's cool
Yeah no it's Gron and Gareth
Gareth is the bros
They are the modern
I like Legion
Modern
The Salarian guy
He, Morden is top time.
Yeah, he's top tier.
It's honestly hard to say because all of them are good.
Every character is important.
No, this is why it's so good about it, Mass Effect.
Not every character is good, though.
Ashley sucks.
Caden.
No, but Ashley's interesting because she's, like, quite a hateable character.
A space racist.
Yeah.
That's, like, interesting that that's in there.
I think that's cool.
Yeah, they were willing to chuck shit like that in.
Yeah, true.
Morden's really good.
Yeah, Morden's awesome.
I'm a big fan of Legion.
Legion, yeah.
using is great as well
where do you stand on liara
liara is always my go-to love option
there's no other
liara is incredible
liara is the option to me
their race is clearly the most interesting
in a sex
I don't I
I'm thinking
Tarley
Tali is
she's a good one too
way better than the other option
one. Well, you can't run that channel.
Yeah, she's not an option in one.
Yeah, something about her.
She's cool.
What are the characters? Do you like Rex?
Rex, I like Rex as well.
I'm a fan of Rex, but he's just not in it
that much. Yeah. It seems like
a missed opportunity.
Because it goes over to Grunt.
Yeah.
Our boy, Gunt.
But he doesn't
like come back in three, does he?
Crump does
No Rex
He's not like a
No he is
No Rex isn't through
Yeah
But a party number
No no
No
He's just in a mission
You see
That's one of the reasons
Garis and Talia
You just get more time with them
Like they're
They're with you the whole time
James Vega
Cortez
Where'd you stand on Cortez
The humans
They just don't really give a shit
That's for the universe that much
Honestly
All the aliens
Yeah there's nothing to like
learn about them.
Well...
Like, I say Garis, but I don't think it's his
name, Garis.
His whole arc is like, he's a detective
and he's just like, I want to get this case.
I need this, and he joins us.
He's like a cop that's sick of the, like,
bureaucracy.
Yeah, yeah.
And then in Rastake 2, he's like a fucking...
Yeah, that's why he goes to Omega
because there's no red tape, so he's like,
I can just tape down whoever I want.
Yeah, and he...
No, but it's just like, if you've played Mastphake 1
and you go to 2 and it's just like,
there's this fucking sliper, this fucking dude
and it's just like, it's his heart.
winter is just like
yeah they're trying to trick you
they like keep it secret and shit
oh my god I you're making me want to play the game
again I can't do this Alex
I can't as well Thane is a bro
oh Thane's awesome thing's really cool
Again a character I wish I had more time
Like in the games with
Did he show up in three? Yeah
I would say Anderson is a bro as well
Anderson yeah he's kind of the bro
Keith David yeah
Absolute legend
Amazing character
And even he's not a bro
by any means but the elusive man
he's like the opposite
he's like an evil bro
yeah the opposite what is the opposite
um
a sister
so you know
thinking of the visitor just shows the amount of
incredible guy who does mass fact has
like I'm probably forgetting some
proper
proper good ones
yeah I'm just going off what I've played recently
so there's probably much stuff I can't remember
you know Jack
I do like
Jack actually I've still got to do a loyalty mission in my current play through
Miranda not that mad on Miranda no but obviously she's the obvious choice for
some people obvious yeah she's like so obvious it's like boring yeah you're not
interesting your surface level you're about that ass there's nothing else you know
she got them to that scene where the because they like patched that shot they did
yeah yeah aspect too where it like shows her
for like ages in that shot.
I did that scene in the remake.
How was it?
I know what the new angle is now.
Is it seemed to an even more?
It's like the same dialogue.
It's just from like a different angle now.
Is the angle good?
Or is it just like the wind?
It's fine.
It's like not that memorable or whatever.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of other characters.
Best fact has a lot.
Legion
Yeah, he said Legion
Legion
Legion was always my
favour
Yeah, he's cool
The Propheon in
Free is quite a bro
I can't remember his name
He's a bit of a dick
In eh
No, the worst character
Two is the
The mercenary guy
Who you get in a DLC
I'm Zaid
I never experienced him
He's right
I did his whole team
mission.
Just
the shadow broker and
Leara boom.
Yeah, Leara is the answer.
Leara is the answer.
No, I'm voting entirely.
Sorry, you're being,
it's two to one, bro.
There's a, there's a fucked up bit
in Mass Effect 2 where like one of the
Asari are like,
yeah, if you wind up in like a
like a wedlock with a human,
you can just wait out because they only live like
a hundred years.
Yeah, yeah. Because the Asari
live like hundreds of years.
They live like a hundred years.
thousand years. Because like in Massafet 1
Leara's only like 100.
Yeah, she's like she's really young. She's shown
it's like a literal teenager. Yeah exactly. So, which is
like such a cool idea.
It's sad though. It's sad though. Yeah, they all live different
amounts of time. But they were able to like mingle and
No, but it's really sad. I imagine being in love with Leiaa and then she
will outlive you. And that's like that's fucking depressing.
Yeah, it's like Lord of the Rings with the elves.
Yeah, yeah.
That's drama.
I'm going to go home and just crying myself to sleep.
Why can you never romance a Krogan, though?
They were saving it for Andromeda, and they just dropped the ball.
That beautiful Krogan in that game.
When's the Andromeda remaster coming out?
Next week.
Oh.
The shadow dropping it on.
It's actually like an unlock in the legendary edition.
If you get every achievement.
I think that's the end, guys.
I'm going to piss myself.
And so are you, unless you give us money on Patreon.
Thanks, everybody.
We love you.
Wee.
Ow!
That was a slap and a half, Jamie.
Do it on my butt next time.
