JAR Media Posdact - Rambling About Big Mouth Season 4 for 40 Minutes

Episode Date: December 23, 2020

https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies  

Big Mouth Season 4 is out And they on Monday said that they would share their thoughts On Big Mouth Season 4 The show So here they are, without further ado, to share their thoughts What's your home here, Monster, Reuben? I kind of know John Oliver

Are they Are the hormone monster Just names of hormones Or are they No, it's kind of like a physical creature It's like a metaphor thing So it could be called like So what? It could be called like Billy

Or something The hormone monster Well that's one of the things that's annoying about the show It's just like the wasted opportunity Of concepts like that But Yeah this is season four on jar we've talked about season two and I think that's the only time we've kind of delved into a video and that was a and as good as they say and currently this season's sitting with an 88 on metacritic um it's probably got like a perfect 100 on rotten tomatoes and I don't care to look it up right now um I just I wanted to talk about this season because it I just think it's so so so bad and I just it just can't keep getting away with it

you know so the breaking bad i just i just don't understand the the real breaking point for me was i like going on like really really cringy subreddits and the the big mouth one is one of those and even on the big mouth subreddit on like the the thread where they were talking about the new episodes they were talking trash on it so i'm just no way yeah so i was like why does anyone like this show you know like what the fuck is it about this show that people that connect you so much. And of course, I made my own Big Mouth O.C. I'm ready for this episode and everything.

So I'm prepared to go in on this. But what is your top-level thoughts of season four, Jim? The thing with Big Mouth is that every time a season comes out, you watch it, and you're like, wow, that's really bad. And it's hard to gauge, like, if it is worse than it's ever been, or if this is... It's always been that bad. Yeah.

always been as as bad as they say my my gut tells me the the reason we didn't talk about season three was because it just didn't really annoy us as much like it was just fine from memory but the thing is it it's kind of that um i always forget the the actual term you know when's like somebody treats you terribly and then you end up like oh like gaslight yeah it kind of in hindsight feels like uh did it's season three gaslight Because I thought, you know what? This show is sort of like, it's going in the right direction. Like it's getting slightly better.

But now I'm pretty sure I was just dead wrong. Are they just completely out of ideas? Yeah, I don't think. Because like they, for example, they set up sort of a cliffhanger at the end of season three. And clearly they didn't like think through what they were going to do. What was the cliff hangar, remind me? I can't remember anything from season three. Nick Kroll and the other one.

Andrew Galberman. Yeah, Nick and Andrew fall out at the end. It's like Nick is going to summer camp, Andrew's staying at home. And then Andrew, in the first episode of season four, just gets taken to the summer camp and he's in the show. What's the best way to do this? Should we go through just like the main characters and just what their journeys are in the season? Let's start with Nick then, Big Mouth himself. His kind of arc this season was mostly about this anxiety mosquito concept.

Yeah. Which is they've been dabbling in these weird metaphors for the whole show, basically. There's like the Depression Kitty, the Grata Toad, all sort of shit like that, all this random shit. And I just feel like it's incredibly clumsy and surface level, the way they deal with the heavy topics that everyone. kind of circle jerks it for bringing forward and handling and I don't know like I just I just don't get who this show is for because on one hand the humor is so reliant on like shock and gross out stuff which only 12 year olds would enjoy and on the other hand there's a the other side of the humor is completely reliant on references and just random shit like family guy tier humor and in the

middle of that, there's this kind of tale of puberty that I guess everyone can relate to. Yeah, it, I reckon the this show is designed for stupid adults. I mean, yeah, that's one way to put it. It's like, I suppose it sounds condescending

but I don't know how else to really describe it. Well, that's, that's what it feels like. It feels like it's talking down to you. Yeah, it, it treats you as if you're a child, as if you, you know? And it treats itself as though it's like really smart yeah it's condescending in that way so going back to the this anxiety mosquito thing and where I think that stumbles it's just it's not actually really a something the

characters have to overcome beyond just like a bunch of vague jokes relating to the concept and then at the very end they're like oh actually no if you can come to terms with it and then overcome it and but on the journey to get to that ending there's like really confusing stuff like they introduce the gratitude, which I already said about. And they kind of have the scene where the gratitude is fighting the anxiety mosquito in like this big Godzilla battle. And I was sat there just like, so what are you saying with this imagery? Are you saying that if you have gratitude, then that's the way of overcoming anxiety? But then it doesn't really settle on that because then in the next scene, at the same time Nick is like a ghost and he flies inside his own asshole and

that's how he like beats anxiety i think it's really like stupidly convoluted and stupid and hard to follow on and on those lines how did you feel about that stuff um i i think uh the do you remember the scene where the gratitoed is introduced yeah do you remember what the context is no i watched all in like a bunch so it's kind of a blur yeah yeah so season four episode nine um i believe is when the gratitoad is introduced after all the main characters take some sort of drug and they're tripping that's right yeah and then the what's her name jess jessie yeah is it jessica she on this drug trip meets the gratitude so she to defeat anxiety you've got to take a drug that makes you hallucinate a toad and that toad will eat the mosquito that is your anxiety but then the

But they abandoned that whole gratitude thing with that ghost side of Nick, where like he's, I guess they're trying to do the kind of intrusive, anxious thought thing. But like he's envisioning himself as like an adult and he's not pleased with how he's envisioning it in his head. And like he overcomes it by embracing it. Do you remember in that last scene where he's like interacting with his ghost and then he like flies up his asshole? His asshole ghost. He goes into that ass, he goes into his asshole. and then in his asshole he goes into his asshole and then hugs himself and then he beats anxiety

but do you see do you do am i stupid or is that just incredibly convoluted and hard to understand especially if like a 12 year old who actually like the show is trying to maybe a bit older like 13 or 14 you know early puberty stuff i think the metaphors are just really confused because the point is that he he's locked himself away like the real him the the the the part of him that can show like sensitivity inside a version of himself and like he's battling that

but then what's the point of the whole anxiety toad fight? Well yeah I'm remembering season three now that was the shame wizard one wasn't it? That's right yeah that was fucking awful another another confusing thing where it's like what so shame because they're manifesting it in like beings that interact with some characters

it does trivialize it in a way and make it seem like something that it's not like a real and the way the depression kitty thing as well how it just utterly simplifies it and makes it seem much easier to overcome than the actual affliction really is yeah with their whole condescending like messaging i think that makes it yeah because it feels condescending because a lot of the humor's condescending it's that family guy like a family guy abrasive style you know where it's always not even just in terms of the humor the the way like when when jesse has the gratitude she's like oh wow it really is this easy to defeat like mental illness in terms of depression and anxiety

that's a terrible message yeah and honestly nick isn't even the one that bothered me the most it was actually the Andrew story that bothered me the most this season um i think and jay i think if we move on to Andrew then because i i think he's actually like the funniest character on the show him and his family he is actually like a a perverse in the show and the way they do he's more than that he's like he's like really sexually deranged and they play it for humor in a show where they're like trying to teach you about things with like with jesse and missy they're way more serious and treat it as if it's a much more like real problem but then with andrew who's like they make a joke out of this like obsessive wanking ritual thing he

has that winds up with him jerking in front of his dead granddad a funeral and it never has any consequence it never means anything so it's just like so that one's a punchline but the anxiety mosquito shit like that's like serious even though it's like a fraud it's like so confusing like what's comedy what's supposed to be like interpreted seriously and like what is what that that was the scene because that character's been getting creepier and creepier and there's like the whole cousin thing which came in in a previous season and i just don't really know what you're supposed to take away from it, you know, aside for, if it, if it was just about, like, edgy humor, then I could kind of understand that on a certain level. Like, it's just gross out

edgy humor stuff, but it's the fact they're kind of selling it as if this is educational in a way. But, like, if young boys are watching that, what are they supposed to take away from this Andrew character? Because they, they, I guess the moral is that if, like, it's normal to jerk off in front of your dead family members. Like, what is it, like, it's not funny and it's not instructive and it's that really confused me because they'd been pushing it with that character for a while but they'd never taken it quite that far you know he's been just getting worse and worse with that stuff and just the fact it has no consequence in the show like his his family members even say they comment on it saying like what are you like a sex you like a pervert a sex freak and then it's like

never comes up again like i just don't understand what they're going for with with that whole angle yeah it really muddies like the water like what if if you are are using this as like a platform to like give some message about like mental health or they they're going to race stuff with other characters. Yeah we'll talk about that. Coming out as as gay to family members all this all this stuff is given like respect you know but that's you sort of pull the rug from beneath that by having one of the characters you're meant to like like doing just the his fucked up shit. Yeah, but then it's like, it's confusing because

are you supposed to, what are you supposed to interpret from it? Is it just a joke? I guess from the writer's perspective, it is, that's just like a punchline. It's just an edgy family guy punchline. Yeah, it might just be filler, like, fill a shit. Well, yeah, saying filler shit, there literally was his other like mini story

where he had like shit building up inside him that manifested and like came alive. Do you remember that? And, which was like a metaphor for him, holding on to shit and he needed to let go like literally which was you know again again with the gross out stuff they really like there's always been gross out humor a lot of it but i remember when i first started watching this season i got a couple episodes in i was just like i don't remember

feeling this physically repulsed just by it's an ugly show already um and i don't mind some of the ugly topics having like gross out jokes to do of like periods and shit like that like i think that's fine. But when it's like talking shit manifesting and they do stuff with Jay where there's like it's not even to do with like puberty shit really. They're just like have like a

pool party in like the mud and this is recurring joke where they just keep licking each other's feet like the mud off of this character Nick Crowell also voices that it's just so irritating and grating to listen to.

But Jay's girlfriend. He keeps looking her feet and they're covered in mud and the joke is that it's just gross and they're minging. Yeah, it's just confused and all over the place and it just can't keep track of what it's like trying to do.

Yeah, I feel like they with quite a few of the characters like Jay and I mean Andrew passed the episode, a poop madness. They don't really, they have these characters and feel as though they need to be in the show. Yeah. But they don't know what to do with them.

Yeah, because Jesse, her story was one that I thought was all right. I thought it was fine because it was kind of about her learning the way that men can sort of try and manipulate women to get what they want and how and where to kind of draw the line of stuff like that, which I didn't really have a problem with. That didn't bother me. It's just the eye-rolly shit comes in when, you know, just bad hormone monster jokes and just awful reference humor and bad punchlines and stuff like that. And then, well, what did you think of the Jess one actually, sorry? Yeah, I'm with you there. It's totally fine.

It's probably the best use of her in a season yet. Yeah. I remember my story's being pretty, I don't know. I just wasn't very engaged. Yeah, and Jay, I don't know, Jay has always been the one that we found the most funny, I think, like collectively. I don't really know why. They've really, like, doubled down on the pillow thing and that dog joke, which they've which is really like family guyish to me

where it's like oh yeah we found something that like people really really love let's just do it just every other episode now with that dog yeah it's catchphrase humor yeah yeah and it's the same punchline every time like Archer

yeah yeah similar that's a show that died of death yeah no and even I went on like an old episode of Archer and I just don't even I can't with this anymore I don't know why I found it funny to begin with yeah but with

Jay, he is kind of the grossest character, especially now, and his thing is kind of in line with Jesse's where there's like a, there's a scene with another metaphor where he's like fingering his girlfriend, and the metaphor is like a castle with a, with a dragon, and it's like, oh, the dragon's being too rough, you've got to, you know, and there's all this shit like that. um i don't know just maybe maybe it's a real thing with like people are just completely inept and can't communicate um because that's what they're trying to get across with that with that relationship as the the peer pressures from like their family and the the people around them need to just kind of be ignored and it be about just the communication of it and to talk about what you like and what

you want which is fine i have no problem with that message it's just so fucking gross the way they do it. It's so off-putting, you know, with, like, Nick Kroll, like, voicing this repugnant character and then Jay, pillow fuck, Bill Zarian, is that what he's cool? Just being disgusting. Like, that was, that was just a bit much, so it just went so far with the gross out shit. Yeah, so, like, that, that was really the highlight of, um, season one, the whole pillow thing. Yeah, I don't know what it was about that, because it, well, because that, it is, like, a joke with, like, young boys, like, just fucking anything so him fucking the pillow was like a take on that and then it being like i think that actor

is like i i don't know i just find him quite yeah yeah he's funny in like brooklyn 9 9 and a lot of sitcoms and stuff like that we need to talk about missy um i don't really know how to broach this one do you want to try it jim well actually start with the drama of because the character's black right But the actor who voices her is not. And I remember reading an article saying that when all the drama was happening earlier in 2020, I remember her tweeting or saying that she wasn't going to do it anymore or something like that or reading an article that she was not going to voice the character anymore, but I guess not.

She returned and there are a lot of meta jokes where... Well, I don't know if you noticed, but like in the last episode or two, the voice actress changed. Oh, really for Missy? Yeah. I didn't even know if that. Yeah, because obviously she, like, released that tweet when they were almost done with this season. Oh.

I guess. I did pick up that I think some of the pickup audio was, like, recorded and shittier quality in, like, COVID situations, but... So they got this other actress doing, like, an impression of... Oh, is that... Okay. That makes sense. It's really bizarre. I noticed, like, it's really bizarre.

So, but the main kind of, she gets her own episode where she's, her character is mixed race where her mom is white and her dad is black and she goes to like some family members who are not happy with, they think that they haven't taught her her culture and try and, you know, introduce her to things she's, that they think her, her mom is kind of suppressed, which, you know, it's fair enough. Like, you want to be broad with that kind of. thing and open to your family's culture and everything but it's where it comes to a head that I feel weird about it because Missy's dad in the show is kind of like like a dorky nerd right and it kind of ends with him saying that like it was wrong of him to like he can't be himself or something I'm not explaining it very well um what did you think of I I don't know if they're gonna take it further if like yeah it seemed like a point where it's like okay that's like a jumping off point for another like lesson thing yeah because she says to her dad because he is like a a nerdy black guy because he doesn't quote unquote dress like a black guy or talk like a black

guy she like says to him that he's not black at a point i think yeah and then like that conflict just ends yeah and her story is resolved well yeah that's right because her mom comes in and says no yeah i love him for exactly who he is but then the other family members kind of disagree and then you're right it does just end it's like okay well yeah i feel like that's kind of a strange message if if that is the end of this plot line you know are you saying like black people have to fit into a certain like yeah you know yeah have to check certain boxes or something yeah i don't know i don't fucking know bro

the hormone monster is funny though as always and the meta humor rick the hormone monster's always funny yeah they is that the one that's like the old one yeah it is yeah because they got rid of him i think in season two or something but i guess he's like a fan favorite

who had to come back yeah he's got his catchphrases and stuff and the fuck the musical numbers why is that such a big part of the show? Yeah, the songwriting is awful. Yeah, they're not catchy, they're not good songs, they're not memorable, they're really short half the time. And they're not funny.

Yeah, and they're not funny. So every time they do them, it's like an eye roll, like, are you fucking joking? And when the show ends on that hormone monster with a song, it's just like disgusting to listen to and watch it, and it's just not funny. Maybe if you find it funny and this is, like, hilarious to you, then it would work, but I don't know,

Other seasons, I did laugh a few times at some of the jokes in some of the previous seasons, but I must have had like less than four laughs this entire season. Yeah, I'm right with you. It's definitely the least funny season. There's actually one of the character that gets quite a bit of screen time. Is it Matthew? Andrew. Oh, so he's also called Andrew.

Wait. Oh, no, no, sorry. No, it is Matthew. Okay. Andrew is the name of that actor, the voice. Fucking Christ. Anyway, whatever. Matthew.

Yeah, Matthew. So he's got his coming out storyline, which that stuff is like a different show. Mm-hmm. It's like it becomes a drama. Yeah, it's one of the only longer running pieces of drama, I guess, in the season, kind of. Yeah.

It's about, it's like a spin on what you'd normally expect with the dad being the one. who is having a problem with the son possibly being gay. It's the mum that's more against it and that's kind of like a reveal that the dad doesn't really care and always knew all along and it's more. Yeah, because he's shown to be like a sort of military-looking dude. Yeah, it's like the old-fashioned.

Yeah, yeah. And again, that stuff didn't bother me. In fact, that was sort of the only thing I really liked that in the Jesse stuff. Yeah, no, I agree. But when the show is like a light switch, it clicks for funny or it clicks for serious. And it doesn't know how to like blend these things. Yeah, but it makes it, it never works though.

It never works because of that. Yeah, because they totally contradict each other. It has the insane pace where moments are never, you can never like settle into anything or like enjoy a moment for what it is because they're always just clicking through it onto the next thing, onto the next punchline. It's about the next reference, it's about the next joke. It's about the next like hormone monster quip. It's fucking just, it's exhausting to watch. I find it knackering. Yeah, they, they use the hormone monster characters.

It's really quite embarrassing. Like, in the serious scenes, the hormone monster is the thing that is meant to, like, come in and sort of give you some levity. Yeah. But the jokes never land. And then it just makes, like, it makes a somber scene. just full flat. Yeah, no, that's just... If anything, you just cringe.

Yeah, it's so frustrating because every season has basically had the same issues and it's just stayed the same. It's like not evolved in any way. In fact, it's almost just becoming a parody of itself the longer it's going. Seth Rogen shows up for the first few camp episodes and there's a trans character

where they do something slightly interesting with that where Seth Rogen's kind of like, he's into her, but he doesn't want people to know. So it's kind of about illuminating that kind of side of it. But again, it's just like, at the same time, Andrew's got like a shit monster inside of him. It's like screaming at him. It is very inconsistent in that way.

Yeah, on top of that, there's all the random XD shit. That's a huge chunk of the humor, yeah. Yeah, total non-characters, just having, like, one line that's meant to make you laugh and it never ever does yeah just non sequiters left and right um yeah i'm just looking through the episodes to yeah poop madness oh yeah the cafeteria girls episode um oh my god yeah that was a weird one where like they really make nick and andrew like they're like the protagonists andrew in particular we've already explained that he's just so really,

he's really fucking creepy at this point. And they like try to swap girlfriends because they don't really like, they're not into the girls that they picked or whatever, which was like a weird thing. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff that I think goes over my head because I just don't understand a lot of like American school culture, obviously,

where they're like, what, they're in like grade eight, I think. And the, the grade seven, like kids, like come into the school

and there's this whole thing about like oh yeah let's choose our grade sevens that we want and shit and it's like this weird kind of predatory thing that they do but they make it like they make the girls like really horny

but then it's like revealed that they're part of their own show to say that it's not just about the guys and that the women have autonomy and that their feelings matter yeah even that that way of framing it doesn't really make sense when you do like your show is about two boys well yes like you can have the characters make mistakes and be assholes and stuff like that but they're

not really growing or changing that much they're just yeah i don't i don't feel like they learn their lesson no especially with andrew he's actually he actually like he seems like someone who would grow up to be like a danger to society you know he's like escalating in such a way he already is yeah yeah he's like the kind of guy that's going to get caught like flashing people in in like town and like jerking off in public and stuff like that he's like maybe that's what they're doing and it would be like but again if they do that it would be like they'd follow through hardcore like kind of really all over the place shit they're doing yeah there was the whole stuff with the uh the grade nine guy who's like an arty you know would

we really kind of touched on that with Jesse. Yeah. I couldn't stand that episode that was like in the future with, um, Nick Star. What do you think the whole point of that was? Filler. Yeah. It was, it has no original bone in its body. Like every single like setup or framing, like episodes like that.

It's just like, well, every other adult animated sitcom has done this shit like and they've done it way better so much better like there's all those simpson's episodes with like the future shit the south park has done it it's like what it does just feel like filler that one is especially did yeah because the i guess the point of the episode is to establish nick star it's like he's what is going to happen if if nick continues down this bad path yeah but i find it kind of confusing that like he gets turned into that character by anxiety? Yeah.

I don't think that's a very good representation of how anxiety affects you. Yeah, the average anxious person is going to wind up being like a an outgoing superstar. It goes on stage and on TV like every day. How does he end up there? Mm-hmm. It's a genuine struggle like the idea of like locking away your emotions and stuff. But I don't think using like anxiety as the figurehead of.

that that doesn't work to me no no because they don't feel like characters it feels like right what like mental illness have we not included yet yeah yeah and they've got like their list and they're just gradually including them you know like they'll probably be like an autism thing like next season and then yeah another like fillery episode the four stories about hand stuff which was that was on we're saying with the castle and you know It's just like a, they do something similar in the previous seasons from memory with the, like, different stories at the same, like three different stories in one, little mini filler shit that's supposed to teach you about, you know, sex etiquette, basically, which again is like, yeah, I guess that makes sense if you're like 13, you know. Yeah, and then the funeral, which was where I was just like, I just don't understand what they're doing with these characters at this point. It's just, yeah, racked with guilt, Andrew tries to keep his urges in check.

But he doesn't know, he kind of fails at it and, and he's caught. But then the next episode is just they all take drugs and then... And become better people? Yeah. So surely this show isn't aimed at young people. It's a conspiracy by Big Pharma. Yeah, this is what I'm so confused by. Because every time you bring up the, all the characters are all young teenagers, obviously.

So people can just say, well, yeah, it's... it's designed for them but then you have so much humor that's like the family guy shit the reference shit the meta shit and the the random shit just don't get what it's going for yeah it it tries so much it's like it spreads itself so thin but none of it is just yeah i guess are we in the minority in thinking that i mean um it's clearly like this look it does very well the audience rating summary 4.5 out of 5 yeah like a audience The audience ratings, they're only in the range of like 300 votes, like an episode, but they're all, it will lean, you know, average of like an 8 out 10 sort of thing.

Yeah. But I don't know. I really don't fucking know. Yeah, in that final episode, what are you going to do? That's the one with the like, the introspective toad fighting the mosquito shit and Matthew coming out to his dad and that pay off. Yeah. And I find this season much more, like, personally offensive. What way?

Going, because I can relate to anxiety. Yeah. The other stuff they've, they've combated it. I don't know as intimately, but like, I,

especially with the depression kitty, I think that it doesn't really get much worse than that, but somehow they made it at least just as bad. Yeah. In terms of representation. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to speak with authority about like, you know like the gay characters the trans characters the yeah the race issues and stuff we obviously

can't speak with any intimacy on that so it would be interesting if people in the comments maybe if they really connect to that shit can say but any other major points i mean how does it sound to you open do you want to check it out um it sounds like something i would say ha ha i'm gonna try and watch a bunch of this and the only way i'd get through it is if i was just like drunk I discovered this feature on Netflix where you can play something at like 1.5 times Oh really? I knew that they were going to do that

I didn't realize it was a feature already Yeah I saw it by accident and I thought Oh I can get through this shite like so much faster if I just put it on Fast made but I did that and like the speed shit was happening because this show already feels like it's a 1.5 stallion and yeah I put it up to 1.4 5 and it was like, you know, the end of

2001, I suppose, I just fucking blasted out my mind. It doesn't sound like something I'd want to watch. I think if they were to do a season on people with really fat, plump nuts, then maybe I'd watch it because I could, like, relate. Yeah, yeah.

I'd just talk a complete shit. It's, um, it's lame because there's a season, I can't remember what it was fucking called um, euphoria. I was trying to remember. There's a show, an HBO show that came out in 2019 called Euphoria. It's about high school students as they grapple with issues of drugs, sex, and violence.

And it's like, you know, 13 reasons why done well sort of thing. But it also obviously has a lot of parallels with something like Big Mouth. But at the same time, it also has like a narrative that's like continuing and isn't just like, throwaway I know it's apples and oranges to compare like an animated adult show a comedy to like a drama but I just wanted to point something out that you know if if you think big mouth sucks maybe give this show a chance if you if you like the ideas of it you might actually get something out of that but yeah it is a it is a ripe sort of like idea and you know explaining the shit to people in a in a constructive way can be really cool but

I don't think this is it for me, anyway. Like, I would not, like, if I had, like, a kid and they got to, like, 13, it's not like, well, Big Mouth is going to, like, teach them, like, sex-ed shit. So, you know, it's, like, I don't know if it's really going to do that. Read a book. Yeah. Yeah, read a wiki article or something instead. Anything's better than this shit.

Yeah, I mean, it's got, like, 58 more seasons coming, so. people love it they just can't get enough of it it is pretty funny when the hormone monster goes

a ralzer bubble it's like I think the hormone monster thing might be the biggest missed opportunity to me where like the way they kind of share hormone monsters

it's like it's confusing they fucked it They just totally fucked it from the gate. Because I think, yeah, from the premise when it's described, you imagine like, oh, everyone has, like, their own hormone monster because everyone goes through puberty in a different way. That's what I thought the whole time.

That's what I thought it was. Yeah, you would. No, like, they're, like, three or four, no, or five. No, there's loads. There's loads. They've got, like, a whole realm, and they go to work. They go to, like, the office, and they spend time with their design. kids instead of going for the obvious route they made this whole like law thing where they have

yeah they've got like an office building where they like yeah it's just like a and there's there's like the chad one the the season two had the like really young like immature one and you're like you can it almost like writes itself you know like it in your head but the way they they they follow through with it is just it's all about like the gross out sex jokes basically And if that's your... It's all about the he-shed, seashell, wait, she said, he said... It's all about the seashells, seashells on the seashore. Yeah, I...

Well, yeah, look, I'm looking at, like, the posters now. Like, for season three, on the poster, it says equal parts, shock, and R. So, like, they know that they're, like, writing it to be shocking instead of just including, like, the gross parts of puberty. They're just kind of really embracing the grossness of it. And I just think they took it too far with the season. There's even a joke in the show where it's like, it's genuinely one of the least funny things. They're like, you need more than just gross out to be funny.

Anyway, I'm going to go chug all my come that's been in my sock for the past three days. Yeah, they kind of like. I imagine it's for a very particular type of American millennial. Yeah. I think, yeah I think And millennial being 30 year olds And sort of

Like 27 to Yeah I think I think they see the like heart to And the positivity Behind some of the things that we did say You know Like with you know Jess's thing about you know

Learning like self respect And shit like obviously shit like that is good And we're not saying that like that is what is bad about it It's just the execution on these themes that I think is just so fucking clumsy and, like, just doesn't work for me. Any final thoughts, Jim? Yeah, six out of ten.

Yeah, what is the weirdest thing about it is as much as, like, I meme it and, like, make fun of it, like, I've still watched four seasons of it. I know, what, why? Like, the fucking day after it came out, it's basically the equivalent feeling of, like, going on Instagram Explore, you know?

It's like so much, you're just, bombarded with so much shit constantly you can just you look at your watch and it's like oh it's been like fucking three hours you know it's like the equivalent of that it's the perfect thing to watch when the depression kitty is weighing you down no because i watched a bunch of episodes i like i got a glass of whiskey around a bath and just sat there sweating with big mouth on the speaker trying not to vomit yeah i don't know how it can get much worse than this one yeah but i'll watch the next season. I fucking know.

I can't I can't know. I don't know what it is. I can't get getting away with this. You said it earlier and I just Reuben, what do you rate it at 10 then? Well honestly, it sounds like

a real solid like, like a 5. It sounds like a real 5 out of 10. I don't think I could watch it because it really is one of the ugliest shows ever. And not like that Rick and Morty way it it's Rick and Morty isn't even ugly really you know that but big mouth just looks so horrible yeah it looks horrible and it's like it's not a thing where you could have had sort of

a stylistic take on that with like the art direction where if if all the adults were like drawn in like a different style where they were like really clean or something and all the kids going through puberty were like a really rough kind of messy gross looking art style like that's that's like cool idea to me but they don't do that it's just like everyone is just fucking repulsive and disgusting the creepiest character in the show is nick's dad yeah that's another thing yeah he looks terrifying and like his character i guess is he's like really a bit too open about his like sex life yeah yeah um with his own family and it's really like fucking weird yeah again that's one where it's like it's just about the jokes it's just about the gross uh excess of it

So. So nobody he should. Why don't I keep saying that? It's a bullshit. Thanks for listening to this one, everyone. I'll tell us your thoughts on Big Mouth in the comments. And, uh, have a Happy New Year. Maybe they thoughts on the show.

Have a Big Mouth coming here. Sing the, for watching. Sing the big mouth of, out the intro. I'm going to Jages. In my life. I'm going through James. Let me sing the cyberpunk. song.

Oh, the one final thing. I'll just chuck on the end. The meta-humor. I just can't. I feel like it wouldn't be in the show if Rick and Morty wasn't as popular as it is. I really feel. Yeah, Rick and Morty and Deadpool, holy fuck. It's actually, wow.

I've said enough about Deadpool and shit. Cleanse your palate each time they do one or something. Yeah, I need a break or something. I just, that, that, that, The joke has just been ground into the fucking dirt, you know, like that idea. There's nothing clever about it. It's not, it's not like a part of the show and the way it tells its story or anything. It's just Rick and Morty and Deadpool do it, and it's so popular at the moment.

I think that in Deadpool, in its comic form, it's... Well, yeah, the character's designed around it. Merit to it. You know, I like the idea of a comic but character breaking out of his panels and shit. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean, though. The whole thing, that's, like, part of the design of that. whole idea like you could do big mouth without having them the meta humor easily and I think it'll

be better for it oh well suck on days I'm going through James's James's under wedge roar