JAR Media Posdact - Skillful Dodgers - JARCast Episode 249
Episode Date: October 18, 2021https://www.patreon.com/jarmedia Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/jar-media-store Twitter: https://twitter.com/FourFunnies Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 11:34 Housekeeping 25:15 Zodiac Gary 32:06 Mid Bre...ak 33:00 Talking About Seinfeld 41:00 Who is the Villian of JAR? 41:54 Favourite Bond Film 45:05 Danger Stairs 47:48 S U G A R 52:35 Gambling 58:06 Lego Eternals Harsh Thoughts 1:00:23 Is the ME3 vid still happening? 1:02:03 We Can Be Heroes PO Box: IHE PO Box 4268 CALNE SN11 7AY
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Good afternoon, morning, evening or night.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 249 of the Jiam Media, Posdak.
I'm a host Alex, joined only by Jim this time.
Hello!
We've got some craziness going on in these days, in these weeks of just pure chaos.
uh james predicted it the chaos is in the air and as a result he's gone yeah where is he
he's gone i'm back from my adventures yeah i must have brought back some kind of tapeworm or
you know it's like a yeah it's sort of to be expected when you uh you're going all across
the world a human immune system is not prepared for all the various
especially the kind of ghosts and goolies I was like chasing
well yeah exactly and you're you're dealing with artifacts from
from many moons ago and potentially many
universes a past
yeah if I if I was more organized and I'm less ill right now
I probably would have bought my my hat um which I wore while adventuring
if I could just conjure some kind of imagery to get people to
ride along with the story
because I didn't really take pictures
or anything.
Yeah, yeah.
Imagine, who's that really famous character?
He's like an explorer.
He goes around the world.
He's got like the brown hat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Johnny Thunder.
I don't think he's not the one with the whip, is he?
He's cooler.
Johnny Thunder, I thought he had a gat.
I think he's got like a cool, like,
a biplane with that Gatling gun on it.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, yeah, just channeling my Johnny Thunder sort of...
Favorite artifact from your travels, go.
The Sasquatch Temple Idol.
Ugh.
Yeah, there was a whole hot air balloon adventure.
Hot air balloon.
Yeah.
I've got to just throw it out there.
I've got to apologize for the...
It's just the, our voices, you know.
Speak for yourself.
No, we're both a little bunged up, tapeworms up in the nose and shit.
Yeah, obviously a bad time of the year to go adventuring because I feel fucking awful, bro.
I feel horrendous.
And I've had COVID twice, you know?
This shit sucks.
And this is worse than both.
Um, no, having, the first.
time i had covid it was worse than this okay but um with covid it was more the whole you like have to lock
yourself in a room and you can't go anywhere yeah yeah for like a long time 14 days whatever it was
yeah with this you can still just get around like spitting in people's mouths and shit yeah yeah
i've been doing this new thing where like i try to go to the most bustling place is possible right
center of swindon take the train into bath london find like big mega building
right with like an elevator in them
yeah yeah
try and wait for like a crowded part of the day
and
4 p.m. 5 p.m. sort of time
when everyone's like leaving
sneak into that elevator
with my mask on
yeah shoot up to the top
shoot up to the top and then as soon as it's packed
in there just whip off
the mask and start spraying
wreak havoc
I suppose it's sort of a form of terrorism in a way
bioterrorism I guess
yeah don't out yourself
um yeah i don't know why i just went down the line well i do know why it's because like the other day i
was like scrolling on social media and i saw someone who i had actually done that really it was
like security footage in an elevator of someone who it was like a packed elevator and someone came
in and then someone commented oh it's quite full in here maybe you should wait for the next one in
in anger he pulled the mask down and like spat and coughed on him oh my god but then the guy it was like an
guy he like kick the shit out of him really yeah yeah he really beat him up beat him up
had and left and it's like you know that's the lamest thing you can possibly do after the past
two years like I I would prefer to be slapped in the face at the moment than coughed or
sneezed in my face there's just something so it's like invasive yeah about that it's like an
extra layer knowing the situation we're all in right now just like everyone's already on edge about
this kind of thing it gives that act a bit more of an umph than normal which ain't no fun
which already was a very heinous act to spit in the face yeah yeah but i feel like it's not something
you would conjure to your mind to be evil in the same way it wouldn't have been as effective in
like 2017 as it is now it's got a different yeah yeah um added depth yeah yeah speaking of added debt
I listened to last week's cast with you and James because that was uh I don't know what
James was on about saying like he'd never done a cast of just me and him that was that whole
era where we did loads of cast together did he I thought he said um he's never done a cast
without you um that's also untrue I'm pretty sure yeah I'm pretty sure that's untrue as
well because I'm pretty sure
yeah we definitely
did ones
without you before
yeah but um
yeah I gotta say it was a good episode
really thank you
I was laughing I enjoyed
it was like a taste of the past
you know because it was like
no structure really
that's what I was trying to capture
because as we all know
I'm a big fan of a normal episode
and who isn't
apart from half idiots
Yeah, the half idiots.
But whenever I cast myself back to that, that fateful day
and listen to that episode, it's like, we, we really just had nothing.
It was mics on camera on.
Yeah, the process of like just setting up the cast was the prep for it.
Yeah, because that took us like three hours.
Well, like in the background.
my PC I had that like old windows had that like notes app thing yeah I had like three
topics like they were there for like two years or some shit um yeah yeah I enjoyed it it was a good
one um had a nice balance of like the comedy and then getting some serious stuff in there some
serious topics yeah I wasn't expecting it to go that way that's always the best type that is when
you're able to like weave in and out of that yeah yeah kind of emotions and those different
that different kind of feedback.
And there was loads of really good feedback in the comments.
I don't know if you saw.
Yeah,
I've read a bunch of the comments.
I didn't really screencap many for housekeeping.
I don't know how long we're going to go for this one.
Currently, I've just had like, well, we didn't say it were drinking.
I'm drinking a cup of tea right now.
Just PG tips, like English breakfast.
No, throat coat.
No, I did think about throat coat, but I needed the caffeine.
Other way, like I was, before we started recording,
like i was like i'm i'm drinking a uh calvin klein coffee
yeah and i also popped a couple of them uh osmosis jones bad boys you know
yeah yeah the heavy duty the night nurse uh o j yeah yeah the the fucking tablets i got
ided for when i're trying to buy yesterday so last night i was like in chippenum um
trying to get some like meds so i could like sleep or whatever
but I'd forgot my wallet.
So, of course, it means...
Yeah.
Hey, you need to have a license for everything in the UK,
including buying...
But, yeah, buying...
I tried to buy a shot of CBD and a pack of the night nurse
paracetoma, hope you sleep bullshit.
And I knew...
I already knew it had been decided pretty much.
I went to, like, the self-checkout bit,
scanned it, saw the thing come up saying,
Proof. You need proof you over 16 to buy this one. And then I looked at who was like working. And you can tell pretty quick, like based on who's working. If they're going to take it there, you know.
I don't mean, I don't want to sound like a douche, but it's always old women.
This was actually an old man. Really? Mm. Mm. I don't think I've ever been ID'd by an old man.
because I've I've worked that exact job
so I know exactly what it's like
and I was way
less stringent than some of the people
working that stuff
because at a certain point it's just like
just put two and two together right
I was like standing there with my iPhone
car keys in one hand
like
he didn't even know what CBD was
he was like looking at it like
hmm
but yeah
once they are
If you don't have it, like, it's over.
Yeah, it's a question of if the question is coming.
Yeah.
Do you have idea?
Yeah, yeah.
So I went back to the car and I was like, you know what?
Fuck this.
And went back in and just went to a like a different checkout.
Yeah.
And it was like a young lady who was just like, oh, have you got the man flu?
And I was like, yeah.
She has no idea, nothing, just then gone.
But you only need to be 16, right, to buy you.
I don't know about CBD, but.
CBD, I'm pretty sure it's 16 as well.
Really?
I was wearing a mask, but even then it's like, come on, bro.
Yeah.
Just as what, like, I understand for the CBD, but it's like, night nurse that, like,
I just want to sleep, man.
That's the thing as well.
Like, who's, who's getting hooked on CBD and night nurse?
Mm-hmm.
What's 16-year-old is like, you know what?
I'm going to risk it one, but I'm going to get fucked up on some CBD and some night nurse.
I'm gonna get a really good sleep tonight
I'm sure someone has figured out how to do it
like
I've been like
having some of this cough syrup stuff
right
and that I've always heard about that
like people abusing cough syrup and shit
yeah
I guess I can see
how it works
because like I feel quite weird
after it does have like ethanol
in it and like weird shit
ethanol
yeah I was looking at some of the ingredients
I don't know how much you'd have to ingest
to actually get
we see of it but
what about mouthwash
do you get ID for mouthwash
if you're chugging
high alcohol content mouthwash
I'm sure that will get you feeling something
I think it would make you feel a bit more
than just
yeah
yeah
uh
no
you
what we're talking about
yeah
housekeeping in the last cast
and everything
yeah it was a good one
um
there was actually a really
comment i spotted if we move into housekeeping uh for jlc 2718 oh shit oh that was close thank
god there was only like one sip left ooh that was horrible for those listening i just like
the cough syrup's gone to your head yeah yeah just i was daydreaming about going back to that
cough syrup um not sure if anyone has already said this but can i can i joint point
I didn't catch that one
Can I joint point
How much of a guerrilla obsession this podcast has had over the years
First there was the TGI Friday's Zookeeper Gorilla
Then Harambe for a little bit
Gorilla Grodd
Of course the band Gorillas
The Gorillas from Sing
And now Gorilla versus whatever
And Tarzan Shagging Gorillas
Which has lasted months worse
Of the cast at this point
I think you guys should definitely rebrand
is the world's number one gorilla podcast.
This is an amazing comment.
It's an astute observation.
Yeah.
I've never put this together.
I thought it was just a recent thing.
The guerrillas.
Yeah, same.
The guerrilla thing.
There is so much guerrilla defatuation.
Yeah, we are hooked on guerrillas.
Can you really blame us?
Like, really?
They are fascinating creatures.
I could genuinely talk with anyone about guerrillas.
for yeah as in the animal and for a long long time it's i'm going to be honest it's
after i watched like that video of robin williams with that like really smart gorilla yeah
yeah like killed that cat or whatever um i like really want to interact with a gorilla yeah
like really bad i feel like that would be a life-changing grounding experience
maybe not like silver bat like yeah that's the only thing because
I think fear would overpower me
I would love to
interact with a gorilla
but
they're just so scary
so you wouldn't do it of one of the like
what if it was like younger
yeah maybe then
a young yeah
but even then I feel like a young gorilla
could be the shit out of me
oh for sure
but they're they're
they're not like
just going to take you down
They're not going to, like, as soon as you turn your back, like, get you in a headlock and break your neck.
They're, you know, they're distant ancestors, they're peaceful a lot, you know, they're...
But you can, like, accidentally threaten an animal.
Hmm.
There's certain, like, body languages that we don't understand, but they do, and vice versa.
Certain energies.
Yeah, they could be saying, like, dude, back the fuck up, I'm going to...
I'm going to mess you up.
But from your perspective, you're like, look, it's just funny gorilla, you know?
Well, yeah, funny gorilla.
But, like, I'm thinking more like they're curious beings as well.
You see these videos of them.
They, like, want to interact with you.
They want to, I saw this crazy video of, um, someone accidentally dropped their, uh, their sunglasses in an orangutan enclosure.
And the orangutang is just straight, just puts them on.
No way.
Yeah, just puts them on.
I saw a video of a chimp.
I saw a video of a chimp behind, like, a glass screen.
And this person's got Mountain Dew.
And the chimp is pointing at the Mountain Dew
and then, like, going over to a different screen
and then pointing to a hole where you can, like, pour a little bit.
And then they do, and then he's, like, slurping up the mountain dew.
Like he's had it before.
He recognized their Mountain Dew bottle, and he's like, oh.
And you load up a day pan to the switch and put it down.
I got to say, though, as far as these great apes are concerned,
I'm pretty sure I've discovered my favourite animal, and I think it is a rang attack.
Really?
I think they're like the coolest, like, wisest-looking animal.
They look like ancient.
They look like something out of a fantasy story.
Yeah, they do.
I really love that, and I love, like, the oval face thing.
and all the like wrinkles and shit.
One of those, a baby one of those
I'd like to interact with
or even one of the older ones, fuck it.
I feel like an orangutan is less threatening
than a gorilla.
You think so?
Yeah.
The plate face thing.
The plate face thing does make a difference.
Yeah, it's just like, it's...
Well, yeah, when we lived on Jersey Island,
like, we saw, we actually would see the gorillas
and the orangutans and the lemas.
All the time.
Fairly often, maybe that's where the Lima, Madagas.
scar appreciation thing comes from it had a bunch of madagascan lemurs there
including the this could explain the whole thing to begin with
we go to that zoo all the time yeah it's a great zoo to be fair if you ever find yourself
in jersey check out jersey zoo yeah and it's not like um as far as i'm aware i'm gone as an adult
but i'm pretty sure it's more of a um conservationist sort of facility as opposed to
that show off the elephants and guerrillas sort of thing,
which is always nice to hear,
because I don't know if I mentioned,
like, I went to an aquarium in Bristol semi-recently.
Yeah.
Didn't like it.
Really?
I found it quite depressing.
What sort of animals?
Even though there was nothing,
nothing over a certain size,
it was still like,
just watching the fish, like,
bump up against the glass and like
clearly it's like
it's not enough space for like
some of these creatures. It's just not
right. See we should be
building like under water
things like under the ocean
like for humans to go
and look. Yeah but
it would have to go so far out
to avoid all the like human
shit and like dirt
you'd see. Yeah.
Or like waste probably in the bottom.
Just plastic floating around. Yeah just loads of
Lucas
bowls or whatever.
Yeah.
In the future, I'm sure it's possible.
Underwater City, let's do it.
Well, that was the, one of the many messages, one of the deep messages packed into Aquaman, if you remember?
What, littering?
Yeah, it was one of the things where it was like, as far as motivations go for characters.
Like, the villain's motivation was like, fuck those ground dwellers.
They're destroying the ocean.
Yeah, they're like, we're leaving their land alone.
Why aren't they leaving our ocean alone?
Yeah, a lot of nuances in that movie that I think went over people's heads.
Most people missed, yeah, if we're being real.
Yeah.
Just too distracted by the...
The giant shark going...
The crab.
We got this one from Will.
We left a weird one.
Question for the boys.
rather be known as the artful dodger or the skillful pooper serious answers only please
I don't artful dodger is almost too vague yeah what are you good at dodge you're dodgy
person then you got at dodgy yeah are you dodgy or are you like max pain because like being a
skillful pooper like it's not it's not anything big it's not anything grand or I don't
no it is if you can master that aspect of your life i feel like but if that's like your main
title it's a bit like that's your thing yeah i see what you're saying the artful pooper maybe
because then it implies a sort of artistic merit to the expression of what they're doing or
even skillful dodger would be better than i'm trying to see how artful dodger is comparable to
skillful pooper
um
there's no answer to that
will definitely did not think about it enough for uh
so we're definitely not missing anything we're not reading between
I reckon we should like just start rejecting hypotheticals
unless they literally write like a 15,000 word like
like an essay essay
just giving us all the rules so every time
we don't have to keep going down these caveats you know
They're like, what is actually the fucking truth?
That's like 40% of our podcast.
We can't have enough.
We can't remove that one.
Ian Franco said,
Alex is searching for the island of Matanui.
Did you find it?
I did search, of course, but bionicle, not real.
Damn, you're dropping the hard truths today.
So you don't believe in bionicles?
Oh, I believe in bionicles.
fuck hero factory
hero factory
yeah
oh do you not know about this
no so idiots let go idiots
um
of course they have bionicle
everyone appreciates and knows it
and likes the law and everything
and just how cool it went
and how cool it's been
then for some reason they're like
oh fuck bionicle let's do hero factory
same shit
different name
all that law gone
I'm sure there's a new law
so bionicles are called
Hero Factory now
no no
there was an era of hero factory
before bionicle came back
because they tried to
re-figurate the old bionicle
but I'm not sure if that
really worked either
maybe they did that
just so people would be like
oh come on bring
bionicle back
come on hero factory
you're making it sound like it's
factory produced heroes
Yeah
Which is not cool
That's like a villain backstory
Surely
It's like Revenant
From APEG's legends
That's what I picture
I picture just the
Current Marvel
Yeah
Oh
Zing
Nice one bright
Speaking of
Venom's out today
Today is the release day
Of Venom
In the UK
I don't know why
The original Venom
came out like
Way early in the UK
but now this one's like way after
so everyone's like seen it
in the rest of the world
we had to wait for
Woody Harrison's carnage
so I'll see that this weekend probably at some point
but also the Eternals
do you really understand how close that movie is
when's it out?
Early November
oh
that is near
too close for comfort as some would say
some might
might say. Yeah. You see, Eternals is one of those things that, like obviously through you, I've
known about it for a long, long time. But I never truly believed in the Eternals. Yeah, because it's just
like, it's so vague and based on a bunch of heroes, no one knows. Yeah, come on. No one
fucking knows the Adternals. Here's the question, though, is it going to be lit? Well, um, there'll be a
a question in the question segment
which I might expand slightly on this
which we can get to later
let's end this segment then
with this one from Pegfan too
I knew someone who would butter
wheat abics like a slice of bread
and eat it thoughts
so this is in reference to the last couple
episodes wheatabix has been
brought up
specifically dry week
specifically eating it dry
yeah
which is like a bit of a fun challenge
if you want to do that at home like see how many dry
wheatobics you can eat without drinking anything yeah also maybe don't do that because I feel like
it's an actual health risk no do it it's a fun little challenge put on tictock or something um
buttering do you think that like adds just enough liquidity for yeah that potentially but also it
could just cause even larger chunks of dry wheatabics to be sort of
molded together
making it even harder to swallow
unless you
butter is quite a viscous
texture
you know it's
it's not very
it's not very liquid
you know
but
to I'm not about telling people
what they should and shouldn't do
if you enjoy doing that
okay
I'm just going to
think you're a fucking terrible
person.
Yeah, it's wrong.
I'll judge you big time for that one.
Yeah, I'll judge you, but I won't tell you not to.
I'll just point in love.
Oh yeah, do what you want, but like, okay, maybe don't do that.
It's a bit odd.
Yeah, actually stop.
It's horrible.
Speaking of things that aren't liquid, we've got a couple of topics.
Um, I just want to bring this up because I'm still like, is this like real?
Um, like, apparently they like found us.
Zodiac killer?
Yeah.
He's just like some dude.
Was, like, was his name
like Brian or some shit?
Then he's
Google him.
Wait.
Is he alive?
No, apparently he died.
This guy, he's talking about.
Apparently he died in like
2018.
Was David Fincher
correct?
He was none of the ones in the movie,
I don't think.
It's still
not like fully confirmed i i don't think how can you fully confirm it though like the
DNA like i think they wanted to like do DNA tests on like the back of the stamps or something
that like was sent in on all those you know the story wait so they never did that
no because the the technology was not at a point but why didn't they do that the second the technology did
reached that point like 20 years ago um
i assume manpower like why would they prioritize the
i guess zodiac killings if it's not like a current
yeah yeah just vanished and he didn't keep
murdering as far as they say i'm trying to find his name
uh because it was something like
is it art vandalay
fuck
oh i can't find it
i can't fucking find it
The case of the Zodiac Killer took another twist this week after a team of investigators claimed they had unmasked the man who has fixated the public and amateur sleuths for decades.
On Wednesday, a team of former law enforcement members, prosecutors and intelligence officers that call itself the casebreakers, said they had determined the identity of the killer responsible for a series of murders in the San Francisco Bay Area in the late 60s.
Why do they not just say his name?
Should they say his name?
I saw his name everywhere.
I should, I, I didn't fucking note it that, there we go, Gary.
Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary, F, post.
Fuck, no, no way is his name Post.
Gary?
Post.
The Zodiac Killer had Post in his name.
Wait, yeah.
Oh, this is the sun I'm looking at, to be fair.
Oh, the previous one wasn't.
if it if it if it does become real i mean not because if it is revealed to be real
then would it make uh finch's movie worse um the movie's interesting enough to me
because like the identity in the movie of the killer is never shown is it it's heavily
implied this it is heavily implied but like during like the murder scenes and
everything, it's always obscured and always could be anyone.
But it is kind of lame, like really dissatisfying if the killer is just like not even in the movie, you know?
Yeah, yeah, it would mean like, I guess they were just on a wild goose chase.
Yeah, it's kind of gross that we're even, I remember thinking when, when I saw this movie, like, should this movie have even been made?
like this is kind of
you think it's a moral
well I don't know
that's the question I'm asking
but I'm not taking a stance
because I think it's
it's the whole thing of true crime
isn't it because
yeah
I see what you mean about
he wanted
the Zodiac killer wanted
a movie about him
well people were digging up
like they're going through
because yeah his name was
Gary Francis Post
who died in 2018
and people have been digging up
like his Facebook page and shit and like his
like friend like posting on
Facebook a picture of him with his arm around him and he was
like he of my mate
Zodiac question mark
it's like what the fuck
and there's another one where
he'd like reviewed like the movie Zodiac
on something
giving it like a five star
yeah no apparently he'd reviewed
other like famous true crime
film yeah he did like the Ted Bundy one
yeah and said they were like shit
yeah yeah yeah
Does it sort of set a precedent
That
Like if you are fucking mental
And you want a movie to be made about you
Just become a pretty good serial killer
Um
You'd hope easier said than done, you know
Yeah but still
Do you do you know what I mean
So you think in his mind
He just saw it all as like a reward
It's like yeah
Yeah sort of
And then he died
He had no consequences
He just got this movie about him
Which
bloated his ego even further
because he's like, I'm not even in this film.
They're saying it's that guy.
Who the fuck is this guy?
Yeah, the whole Zodiac killer,
like who is the Zodiac Killer thing?
It's just, it's been like a cultural meme for fucking so long now.
Yeah, high profile murderer.
Just weird.
It's like not really what you'd expect to wake up and see.
You know, trend in.
Yeah.
Yep, we've maybe found the Zodiac Killer and he's fucking,
But it could be, it could be total horseshit.
Mm-hmm.
I kind of, part of me hopes it is.
Because, do you remember, like, uh...
He has got, like, a really identifying scar or something.
Which apparently was described.
I didn't think he ever showed his face.
Didn't, um...
It's been a while since I've, like, read about it or seen that movie or anything.
Did, did someone not survive an encounter with him?
I thought you always wore a mask, though.
I can't remember.
So yeah, I'm a Zodiac killer.
He's back.
He's back and he's dead.
And a movie revealer.
Did he have any other hot takes?
Yeah, a weird one.
He threw out there that, um,
Fortnite's one of the better games at the moment.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
That was his last review.
Then he copped it.
Maybe you throw it out there right before the bad update, you know?
Yes, the bad update.
I don't know what I'm talking about at this point.
We'll see after these messages.
Too much cough syrup.
Oh, not enough.
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Welcome to the second half of the cast
We answer questions from
Where do we answer them from, Jim?
Uh, uh, Mars?
The questions from Mars?
Uh, we answer questions from Redite.
From the reddit.
That's an accent on the E?
Yeah, accent.
Um,
yoho
Yeah, leave your questions for us
To answer on sequential episodes
Before we actually go into the questions
I kind of wanted you to bring up something
Oh
Seinfeld
Yeah, I kind of did
I said Art Vandalay
Yeah, I think that's that planted the seed
And I just couldn't ignore that importing exploit
Yeah
Here's a hot take
I think Seinfeld
might be the best TV show ever created
Really?
Yeah, I think it's actually
I think it might be perfect
Yeah
Well now
I haven't reached the ending yet
Because that was controversial
But I know the ending
Did you not watch the ending when I watched the ending?
Yeah, but I hadn't watched the whole show
Right, you didn't have the whole context
Because it's like, yeah
Yeah, it's all like an in-joke thing
Mm-hmm
but like
it
it's weird for
it seems like
something I shouldn't like
because it's
it's like so similar
to friends
yeah and I've never
really fucked around
with friends
no I like
I just can't bring myself to
with friends
but
Seinfeld
I think it is just
the
the first of all
the four characters
the show has
perfect
it's the
perfect they all like compliment each other so well yeah you can have combo of them you can have
any assortment of characters and it works humor just like unbound no but there is there is a
correct answer for the best one of the four there yeah there is and i hope we agree well the thing is
if someone said another character i'd be okay with it you'd appreciate it
you'd understand it.
Yeah, the answer is
George.
George Costanza.
George is the funniest character.
Yeah.
The actor is
so,
so good at what he does.
Mm-hmm.
But it's also that
fucking material.
Yeah.
Holy shit, is it funny?
And it's like, we've
aped the whole, um,
like a podcast about nothing
because that's like the whole premise.
Like, it's about nothing.
Yeah,
Because I just finished the season where they make the show within the show.
That's right, yeah, yeah.
It's been a while since I've seen all of it because I just went through the whole thing.
Yeah, it's all like a total blur.
And it was, yeah, 20 odd or something.
Yeah, I had a great time because I was always put off like laugh tracks in, like, comedies.
It really puts me off.
It's like so distracting, but.
you just
works in Seinfeld
I don't know
if it's like the weird
the way
the kind of stand-up
starts a lot of the episodes
I think they stop doing that
yeah it feels like
because
because of that stand-up segment
like
and the fact that Jerry
is a comedian
the character is a comedian
and it's like
the laugh track
it's like an extension
of the intro
yeah like life to him it is all just material for his yes yeah exactly yeah and that's that's
like the structure of the show like he at the start of every episode there's his comedy routine and
and at the end and at the end he always uses something that he's like learned from the episode
yeah yeah for that material so like in in that way it works to me
there anything in particular
stood out to you
like about it
because your thoughts
will be way fresher than mine
I've always just found it funny
and that whole like
painting of Kramer
comes to mind
yeah
and Art Vandalay of course
Rampan Delay
and the whole
Kramer is the other character
by the way
that is viable
for best character
yeah
yeah whenever he comes in
it's like yeah
all right
yeah
it's a guaranteed
watching from the beginning because everybody knows that when Kramer enters people
cheer and clap but it's interesting seeing when that like first starts yeah because
obviously he needs to earn that position and then by season two people like yeah yeah it does
feel owned though it doesn't feel like uh oh like we're making Kramer into the
he's gonna save the scene type thing it's like yeah yeah he's
he's just naturally likable every every character is likable but also awful but
and I think it just comes down to charisma of the actors yeah and the worst one is Jerry
if we're being yeah um he does he does still work in the show and he's just the
worst actor like he's yeah he's a because all the others are really consistent incredibly so
and really, really talented with the way they balance the comedy and the, like, how serious they take it.
Yeah.
Whereas Jerry, like, I think you said it almost as to the humour, like, his weird, like, almost indifference in the way he, like, delivers things.
Yeah, he's sort of always the same.
Yeah, yeah.
Everything's delivered, like, the half smirk.
Yeah, he, the guy can't act.
But also, that, that plays into how much you like him.
he's relatable in that because most people can't act most people if they were given these lines
they probably do a worse job than than Seinfeld oh damn straight yeah well they definitely would
but yeah the show is magnificent it like and it's so tame but still manages to be funny
I really respect that and like that's the thing with friends
but you know they're not going to do anything risque.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you ever checked out Kirby Enthusiasm?
I haven't know.
George is based on him.
Yeah.
I've seen a few seasons of it.
Is it good?
It's good from what I've seen.
It's just more been access
because I don't watch like TV while it's on or whatever.
I've seen snippets of it.
And it doesn't seem to.
to you, it's different.
It's not the same as Sanfield.
Yeah.
Mom's calling me.
Mom?
Man.
Anything else?
If you haven't watched Seinfeld, what's Seinfeld?
This is what I mean about access.
Put it there on Netflix, suddenly, if I...
Yeah.
Everyone who hasn't seen it, has seen it.
also I love short episodes of things
mm-hmm
and shout out to a Newman as well
so that's name God yeah
that's another fit all the like side characters
memorable and funny
yeah there actually loads of like really
yeah yeah Brian Cranston shows up
yeah and Skyler from a
oh really yeah she's
Jerry's girlfriend for like one episode
that's funny
they're both in there that's weird I don't remember
yeah and the parents of
of George and Jerry
Oh yeah
God damn yeah
It's all flooding back to me now
You might be convinced me to go through
Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah they're really funny as parents
Yeah
Yeah I'm gonna have to go through it again
Because
Yeah comedy sitcom
To this day
Yeah
Okay let's do some questions then
Let's do this one
From T-merchant of
slough. Who is the villain of Jarre? Tank Dempsey is the villain of Jha.
Where Randy? Uh, he's not capable enough to be a villain. I think... The villains's has to be
capable? What villains aren't capable? Can you think of an example of a villain that isn't
capable? Well, I didn't come prepared for this one.
that's not, there has to be one.
There's something there in the back of my mind
that's like, yeah, that's like an incapable
villain. But,
who achieves everything like accidentally or something.
Yeah.
Despicable me guy?
Yeah, I don't know.
Who's the villain
of, uh, these nuts?
Yeah.
Skelly Dude 11 says,
favorite James Bond film.
That's another film. I was,
I was planning to see that James Bond
Yeah, I want to see James Bond
During that week
But I've run out of it
So
What's the favourite one you've actually seen then?
We probably have the same answer
Cicna Royale
Oh
Spector is a trash film
Skyfall is an okay
Goud finger
Quantum of Solis
I've only seen the
I've seen quantum
ugly man one
But you've only seen the Craig ones
Yeah Daniel Craig ones
I've seen all of his, apart from the latest one,
and Casino Real is the best one by far.
Yeah, Casino Royale is probably my favourite one.
Quantum Solis sucks balls.
Awful film.
Yeah, it's not good.
Skyfall is like...
Skyfall, they brought it back a little bit,
but then lost it so fucking hard with Spectre.
That film sucked.
It was really bad.
Like, awful bad.
Yeah, it made it really seem like,
are we done with this now?
it was like oh this yeah and they did that classic thing where it's like
let's just cast a guy that people know play a good villain and not actually like
right yeah yeah like a good character yeah because that it was christoph waltz wasn't it
in that one just like man how do you fuck up like a character for him yeah they were like
let's not write a character let's just get christoph waltz then the work is done right yeah yeah
and uh rami malix in the new one which is one of the main reasons
wanted to see it to be honest yeah he's a good ass actor so i i'm i feel like i'm a a british
traitor like all the all the classic like british things you're supposed to like your doctor
who's your james bonds this kind of shit i don't care that much yeah um yeah i don't i have
seen some of the older james bonds but like i just don't remember them i don't i remember the gal
whole thing, you know, pussy galore and all this shit. But like, gold pussy galore. Golden pussy
galore. I don't know. I'm excited to see this new one there. You never said that is your
answer to Casino Real. Oh. Um, yeah, if it's my favorite, for sure. Because that is a straight up
good ass movie. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a really good action movie. It's just a solid ass.
fucking yeah really memorable to
Hannibal's in there
really good villain
that scene where he's like
strapped to the chair
it's like so yeah
it's just burnt into my brain for whatever reason
a lot of scenes from that movie are actually
yeah obviously the
the parkour bit at the beginning
yeah and like being poisoned and stuff
yeah yeah it's awesome
and it's like the one James Bond
film I've seen where I don't feel
kind of grossed out by the character himself.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
For whatever reason, they managed to make it work.
Mm-hmm.
His nature.
Yeah.
Lewis Memes 7 left a bit of a...
A bit of a story.
Talking about falling up and down the stairs.
I've done both quite recently in painful slash damaging ways.
I work at a nightclub, and it is multi-storied,
so there are three flights of stairs in total.
I was working on the middle floor and I needed to go to the loo and the toilets were upstairs.
I decided the best plan of action would be to quickly stride up the stairs at least three stairs each step.
I'm tall and have long legs.
And once I got to the top, I decided to jump up.
But as I did, I caught my shoe on the final step and completely stacked it as I got up.
And I finally ended up falling on my knee and I honestly thought I broke it.
And as it has been swollen for about two weeks and it is very tender whenever any way it's put on it.
And recently I fell down my bedroom stairs.
I live in a house with a loft bedroom, which is my bedroom.
And one time I was walking down the stairs and my dog thought it would be a genius idea to run under my legs,
which tripped me up and I lost balance as I was going down.
It ended up with me slipping and sliding down the stairs and into a wall at the bottom of my stairs.
The wall is made out of some sort of weak wood, maybe plasterboard, I'm not sure.
But I ended up hitting the wall on my side and denting it because most of my weight was put on it.
anyway i thought you might find my stories amusing i've been a listener for four years or so now
and my monday evenings i spend listening to the podcast while playing a game thanks for all the
entertainment you've provided over the years thank you for your stair stories man
gotta be careful on those stairs yeah stairs aren't something to mess about with i feel like
the older you get the uh more concerned about the stairs yeah the less you mess with the stair
yeah after after that tumble i had the other week
I'm like so cautious now
Yeah it's like
Especially with Paisley
Because they're idiots
Like on the stairs
Like they just get
They just get so excited about everything
Yeah yeah
And it's the same with a cat
Apart from it's like the opposite thing
It's the lack of excitement
That's the scary thing
Because if Billy's like
The surprise factor
Yeah because she's
If the lights are off
She's a black cat
Invisible
Silent
and cats do that fucking thing
where they wiggle around by your legs
so if you're just
going even two steps
at a time
slowly
you touch that cat
you're going down
you need to put like a glow in the dark coat on it
or something
I'd be down to appear in a glow in the dark
here
well maybe a cool cape
like that cat picture I keep sending
yeah but like vibrant yellow
glow in the dark
vibrant yellow
well we have one
Um, a bit of feedback, um, or just referencing what you and James were talking about, about working out in the last episode.
This is Adam Exchanger 1 about the workout talk in the latest jarcast. As someone who started working out this year, it was very refreshing to hear your workout stories as I'm very much in the same boat as James.
I've always been very skinny with close to strength. So working out was mostly to gain more strength. Unfortunately, I did fall into these body standards present in media and started thinking I had to cut.
out everything unhealthy. Luckily, I've started coming out of that and realized that I should
just eat what I want, but still be happy. Something that did happen when I completely cut out
anything sweet for good for a month or two, I stopped feeling the crave and began liking
foods I never thought I would. Even veggies started tasting better. While I definitely approve
of eating what you want, I would suggest at least trying to cut out sugar from your life
for at least a short period of time to see what effect it has. Cheers.
When was the last time you cut out sugar?
Okay, that's the door this stuff.
Yeah, it's been quite a while since I have.
Because I did this a few years ago.
It must have been 2018, 2019,
where I just totally cut out processed sugar for a whole month.
It's true, he's correct.
Yeah, he's totally correct.
So I did the same thing more recently than you.
Mm-hmm.
It takes crazy discipline, but the payoff is huge.
Yeah, and at a point, the discipline isn't required.
Mm-hmm.
You're just like, I don't even really want, like, to eat four cookies.
And things that wouldn't have scratched the same itch suddenly start scratching the itch.
So, for example, fruit.
Fruit.
Taste where nights are, even, like, veg and shit, like, as they were saying.
Yeah, yeah.
It does get a nicer taste, but it is the discipline part.
sugar's so god damn addictive and it's such a joy from being real um yeah there there's nothing
this plays into me watching Seinfeld there's nothing better than just eating cookies watching
sainfield mm-hmm and these are British cookies too yeah I had the gooeyest of those
biscuits they got I'm specifically referencing last night where I had four white chocolate
and raspberry like gooey soft fucking mm-hmm tasco-finest cookies
Do you find you actually get like a sugar hangover?
Because I genuinely, if I like binge on sugar of an evening, like, I feel significantly worse the next day in a way that is noticeable.
Like lethargy.
Yeah, like the sleep was worse.
Like you wake up more tired.
Your body's just like, I need just like something real, you know?
Yeah.
Um, but it, it's just that pure discipline.
I have to really want to be able to,
I have to want to do that.
Yeah.
It's the same with any addiction.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And also, like,
these fucking sodas and shit.
Yeah.
They make you want sugar more.
Like a Coke zero or,
yeah, like the, um, sugar-free variants.
But you can't win, basically.
Mm-hmm.
unless you just cut it all up
which I don't have the willpower for
at this very moment
yeah that's the thing
I find whenever I
get ill or something
that always breaks the
like if I've been working out consistently
then that obviously stops
so you can let your body recover
then it's like well
eating healthy
yeah man I just want to
lounge feel sorry for myself
and eat trash yeah exactly
which is
which probably like doesn't help the healing process
no no you should be eating like
veggies and meat
yeah full of vitamins and mushrooms and shit
yeah I'm the same and my diet's been
terrible
no I'm gonna be real with you I ate those four
white chocolate and raspberry cookies last night
as well as an entire pack of Oreos
not the American pack of Oreos
that would just be ludicrous but the British
was cheap oh is the default American pack
there's like
It's like four cheves.
Really?
That's like the default one.
Yeah, I believe so.
Huh.
And I also had a little pack of Harry Bow shoes.
Oh, fuck, you did go in.
Yeah, I went crazy.
I went mental and a...
Oh no, I didn't have the popcorn.
I still got that.
And kind of on the same lines, actually,
Ork Tooth left this thing.
On the subject of struggling to keep addictions at bay,
I've always had one weakness,
and that's gambling.
I've hardly ever...
ever actually gambled with high stakes in a casino or at the bookies, but I am an absolute
sucker for the sunken debt fallacy. This is one of the biggest traps for people who end up
with gambling addiction, so I've made a personal vow never to enter a casino or bookies. I know for
sure that if I were to ever dip into a habit of serious gambling, even for a second, I'd never
come back. It's rather a creepy feeling when I notice the same behavior replicating itself when
I'm playing a game that has some sort of risk-reward system, like pills in the binding of Isaac
or turnips in Animal Crossing.
Although at least that's a safe environment
for someone to realize that
that's a potential danger for them thoughts.
Yeah, gambling addiction is really bad.
It's, uh...
Yeah.
It's something I've never found myself
like being pulled by the...
Yeah, me neither.
It just doesn't attract me for whatever reason.
Well, I was specifically put off, um...
when I worked in retail
I worked at the
like kiosk where people would buy
the lot of tickets
and yeah yeah
like over like
the months you kind of see
the familiar faces and see how
just how much they're like spending
on these scratch cards and like
yeah yeah some people coming in
and buying like 50 quids worth of like
lot of tickets every week
and it's like
you see like you're not paying out
like anything like
yeah the thing is like
with gambling
that you know when you're buying
you're when you're giving it money
the the odds are intentionally stacked against you
why would they
have a business model where like
yeah you're likely to gain from it
but that's also how they get you that's why it's addictive
is that's that small chance thing
yeah because when it when you do get a payout it's like that rush
of endorphins.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rarity, brains
love rarity.
And it's why
I think it's
especially interesting
when you apply it to video games.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
Because I think you brought it the other day
when I was talking to you
were talking about just like the
Battle Real game mode in video games
and how it kind of feeds
into that addictive nature.
Yeah, it's the exact same philosophy
as gambling. Because a Battle
Real, you're going to lose more
often than you win making a win more like you get more from it that good feeling and it's like
multiple layers of randomness stacked and off each other like in apex like you have random packs
when you land on the map there are random like crate things that you open to get loo and
every weapon on the floor is random there's nothing you can rely on so then in every circumstance
the outcome is random and rare the likelihood of you winning is
is low yeah so then you're you're addicted to the fact that like well you keep playing
shit match after shit match having a terrible time but because you know there is a chance of you
winning you keep chasing it it's a very weird thing and that that I have like been addicted
to not in like a long term scenario but it's like when you start playing you can't stop
Yeah, I've definitely been addicted to, like, gameplay reward systems and video games,
but I've never taken it to the point where, like, like an apex with the packs shit, for example,
where, like, people can get addicted to just buying the packs.
Yeah.
Yeah, that part doesn't interest me.
But whereas if, with something like, because honestly, destiny springs to my mind.
I remember, like, reading about the early development of destiny and how they, like, employed these.
psychological
like experts to
to literally build the game
to be as fucking
addictive as possible
every single system in that game
is designed to get you fucking hooked
and get those claws in
and make it so like
this is your life now
I think that's maybe
why I've always kind of
gut rejected it
despite the addiction side of it
I've always felt weird
about certain elements of that game
and how
yeah I don't respect
that
philosophy
there's something gross about it
especially with how
specifically with that game
that side of it has gotten worse and worse
but
yeah it's complicated too
because like where do you draw the line with that
because I would say like with Apex like that
it's a really fun gameplay loop
but for what reason am I addicted I guess
I think the reason Apex gets away with it
for me is because the moment to moment gameplay
it feels so good.
Like, I forgive the, the frustrating moments of,
I've done, like, say I've just won a game,
and then I go into the next game,
do the exact same thing at the start,
but because of one of those random elements, not aligning,
I just have a terrible time, yeah, yeah.
Hmm.
Let's do this penultimate one here.
I'm Syruk
Is Alex getting any of the
Lego sets for the Eternals movie?
This is the question I referenced earlier
about the Eternals, a race of immortal beings
with superhuman powers
who have secretly lived on earth for thousands of years
reunite to battle the evil deviance.
That must be the updated
description.
Yeah, that's not the same.
Yeah, that's not the same.
So I hadn't really properly looked at any of them.
Of course, I went straight for whatever set
has cameo in his character king go he's only in one of them because it's such a huge cast like
they've split up all the characters across all the sets he's in um in asherom's shadow
has she a picture with the main point i find the box really funny because of what they put in the
corner it's like this weird arrangement of all the it's like um artist's impressions of like all the
characters or something
yeah
well in a little
because there's so many
characters in that damn
movie I guess they don't know
there's no one face
you can put
mm-hmm
you can't just have
like a Darth media
yeah yeah yeah
um
so all the
the kid looks
yeah
that's what caught my eye
immediately
that kid looks creepy as hell
but um
yeah the set
it's like this giant
red robot thing
um
the Lego set
seem to imply
and I guess it's
not too shocking to hear that there's
going to be like lots of fights
like monsters
monsters? Monsters or robots? Because why's
they're a big red robot? Are they like the
Power Rangers? That's their robot?
I don't know. When the other
sets there's like a Lego bird
monster thing and one's like a bird
wolf, no not a bird wolf
a wolf thing. A wolf bird?
There's like a tease of what
it sort of looks like in one of the trailers
I remember like a weird CG wolf thing
Yeah, I don't know about this.
Just get a Lego Camel off.
I was going to break flink it, yeah?
Yeah.
Thank you.
I was going to say eBay, but, you know, to each they're right.
Ooh.
Actually, these are two really short ones, so we'll just do that.
Goozers Goss.
Says, hey, gentlemen and James.
I was just curious if the Masspet 3 vid is still happening.
I recently finished the trilogy,
love the games in your vids on the subject full homo from Australia um I mean it's still
happening it's been recorded for like it was recorded so long ago wasn't it before the
sofa was even yeah was it before I can't remember if that was the mass spec 2 one or the
mass 5 1st 3 1 um it was so many months it was in summer basically when we recorded it uh
but it's like three hours long so we were torn like kind of
didn't have footage for it um i think we've decided at this point just to basically
upload it as like a podcast thing yeah i don't see any other way we could um is to just be too
time consuming i think otherwise but yeah it's i'd like to put more in but like she's it's
fucking nearly the end of the year you know it's like god damn this time is just eluding me um
there is like a weird one-to-one thing that our little videos on it have like lined up
with the way the games were kind of made yeah that's true it's like really weird with the like
the the second video we did it's like way cleaner way more organized yeah it's like concise
yeah yeah points and stuff yeah and then the third one it's like delayed it's fucking
we didn't want to do with it yeah we got uh the guys upstairs breathing down our necks
telling us what the deal yeah yeah yeah and finally from a revert to monkey has Alex
in the process of reviewing 2020 superhero films watched Robert Rodriguez is I can't
say Robert Rodriguez we can be heroes I just found it randomly on Netflix and as
someone who grew up with Spy Kids it was really funny bad nostalgic yeah we actually
watched it yeah we recorded a trying to watch for it um yeah
so I'll save any deep commentary for that
but did you have any memories of it
I remember it quite well
I remember the kid who could like stretch his neck
that's the most memorable thing
yeah it was like specifically his neck
yeah I mean if
it's kind of creative I guess
no I don't say that
it's specifically the neck thing
oh just the neck stretch yeah the neck stretch
like
I guess it's creative in the
like why would anyone think of this
but this guy did
you know
a Spy Kids re-skin
set in the shark
girl and
yeah that's right
sorry wrong way around
sharp boy and lava girl
yeah
couldn't even get Taylor Lawton the back
what
what are you doing
mm-hmm
guy
guy gets into Twilight
and suddenly he's too good
for Spy Kids
I fucking love Spike Kids
if you've never seen Spike Kids 3D
check that shit out
that is the one
great film
straight up just a great movie
yeah
yeah that Elijah wood moment
will never leave it
yeah
imagine being him
like being in that position
where it's like
you're just so connected
and ingrained
into like that system
where you're just like
offered by like Netflix
so you go have like
fucking 50 million to make this shit
and then you're just like
in a weekend
yeah yeah
and they just come to your garden
and you make this like
lazy ass
you're mandolorean
can you just hop over
make some shit i'll give you like 2 mil
hey um guy from fucking
logan want to like
doing this movie
hey mr robert
yeah that's like the
funniest thing about it's just who is in it
yeah and he always gets these like great
actors yeah yeah it's amazing
like Sylvester Stallone
is in Spike Kids 3D he's like the bad guy
and yeah he plays like multiple characters
yeah he's doing like an Eddie Murphy
so
It's such a good movie that he's fantastic
Yeah, Antonio Banderas as well
Yeah
And all the actors, they're like all in on it as well
They like know exactly what's up
Yeah
It all just compounds to be this perfect piece of media
As long as it spike is three
Yeah no this new one
I've, yeah, nah
Too long
Not too long is this podcast though
It's just about right
Yeah
Too long
I can feel it
do you listen to that one do i listen to it yeah um i not in a long time i used to do
i like to you listen through all of too long yeah when i when i was like 16 i thought it was a great
song and it's got like a breakdown in i would never call it a bad song it's just never find i
listened through the whole thing you should give it a go yeah i can be a lamb yeah it's actually
kind of giving me i kind of want to listen to it now thanks for uh listening to this one
Any final thoughts?
Zodiac, uh, uh, what was his name again? Gary.
Zodiac Gary?
Gary, Gary Post.
That is weird that his last name is Post, if that is true.
Yeah, that almost...
It definitely is him, isn't it? Gary Post.
That's what inspired him. He, like, wrote his name down and I was like, hang on a minute.
Yeah. Post.
Look at my movie about this.
So fucked up.
Let's just have our final thoughts.
