JAR Media Posdact - SPACE JAM STYLE - BroCast #3

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

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Coffee by the campfire, a mother effer says. Coffee by the campfire. Like cowboys. Oh God. You know? Coffee by the campfire. The cowboys have Le Crucette. I don't know if they had Le Crucette, but I think they had French presses, right?

Oh. Or maca pots, I guess. Motchapots. Motchapotes. I don't know. I'll tell you what I do know. But this is Brocas 3. Awful.

Good afternoon, welcome. Good evening, welcome. Morning and... Good morning and night, welcome. And welcome to Broca's... No. Three? Five?

We don't know. It's something like that. We don't know. I guess the fumes from the bonfire are kind of going into my head a little bit. bit yeah it feels kind of nice yeah this fixiating that's a difficult word to just whip out monoxide a little bit monoxide yeah tell you what's not monoxidey that's those jarlings over the jar media patreon patron patron I can't do the French

thing I'm sorry the petit patron then make the audio version of the show possible and get their names read out in the first or second week of each month just missed it last episode but there's always next month there's always another month there's always next month and there's always something on the docket we've got a docket we've only got a short little housekeeping to do this week I like doing that sometimes just pinching it down you know just pinching it and like the the bits on a on a on a pasty what bits on a pasty yeah to make it have the wiggle bits I just want a past these to make it have a wiggle.

Yeah. Right? That's how they make past these. I'm not sure, brother. I think so. Make it, what's a global equivalent of a... A pasty? A pasty.

Yeah. They probably call it, like, are the way Americans called scones... Biscuits. No, that mess. I was... Someone, a little anecdote. Someone, I know, was in a... a British pub in America

and they had pasties on the menu oh in a pub like a freshly made pasty it was called like a Cornish pasty and the waitress was like the Cornish pasty is really good nice same a pasty for those who don't know what a pasty is well um yeah

this is the housekeeping segment where we hit up some of the interesting comments that left some of the conversation to be desired something to be addressed like this this from jagon the mike 4102 Alex has the hands of a murderer soft but vicious Jim has the hands of a man who knows his way around a town there's a tenderness to them but also a finality both hands could take a life but while one would relish it, the other would not. That's my least favorite comment we've ever had. That's terrifying. That's horrible.

Why don't he always characterizing me as the horrible murder? Yeah, that's freaky. Soft but what? Soft but vicious. Okay. Yeah, okay. Someone replied to that.

Timothy, mark my words, Mind Hunter will return after Alex makes his first kill. Jesus Christ. I guess. I've noticed it like, I don't know.

Is it just like how I look or something? When I go to like the supermarket and stuff, I'm normally tailed by the security assistant. And he's, I know what he's doing. I know exactly what he's doing. And he's like acting like, oh, just looking at paracetamom, nothing going on here.

So you're just going everywhere I'm going. I guess you're, kind of have smuggler vibes and I guess I do have smuggler vibes you got smuggler vibes and like I guess you could call a what do you call it a shoplifter the shoplifter kind of smuggles goods out of a shop right I guess and they've never called me on it but they suspect me of it yeah and that hurts you've got um hoodlum characteristics well speaking of hoodlums Varrake says Jim's straining to think of unhinged media obsessions and failing to come up with Mad Max had me screaming at my monitor.

It's not unhinged. It's bad. I can see you. Check mate. You're always better than me at chess. Not true. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's unhinged, though. Just because, like, you really like something,

I feel like the unhinged part is when it, it kind of absorbs. I think they're only saying unhinged because that was, like, I think that was the question that was being asked was, like, what are you the most... It was in the phrasing of the question. Yeah, I guess... I don't think they're just straight up calling you unhinged. Yeah, but, like, my interpretation of the question is,

like, what do you have an unhealthy relationship with? like in terms of media um right and i guess it it kind of consumed a lot of my like discussions for years so yeah i i guess i guess they're right yeah um and finally skack newman says speaking as a small welshman who just came back from a week in new york Nothing can prepare you for it. The traffic, the noise, the smell, there is nothing like it. And he just left it at that. Okay.

It's kind of ominous, because it's like he doesn't say either way if he liked it. Is the smell good? Is the noise good? Are we distressed by the traffic? Is he saying don't go to New York? And it is the fact that he's Welsh and small. Is that important for this? Is he saying that like that?

those factors would greatly affect... Small Welsh people are known to have, like, really sensitive hearing and sense of smell. They're known to have a particular time in New York, whereas if you're, what, a big Scottish man or woman. Yeah, it's great. It's just awesome. Okay. So I have to keep that in mind.

Do they have, like, a guide, like a spreadsheet? So I can figure out, like, if I'm going to enjoy New York or... You've got to do, like, your ancestry. dot com results and you get like cross-reference it with the the genetic variations that work in New York we got a a curry yesterday went out and got a bite and the waiter found it humorous that um I knew that there was like some Irish DNA um because I I like, I don't even know why I brought it up, but he came up some reason and then he That's your unhealthy obsession or whatever it's just like you're like 3% Irish DNA.

Yeah, vague DNA links to whatever that was up on. Yeah, but he was, he found that funny and I guess he's one of those kind of waiters where he's like practicing a stand-up as well. But he must be like around my age or something because he's whipping up. out like millennial memes um come like reference like just memes in the in the comedy i guess that's our reality now like we got the meme we got memas in there yeah doing their stand-up um but the reason i bring that up the waiter situation is that we went out somewhere else to celebrate it was like my belated birthday meal or something went to a tapas place um um which was yummy or whatever, but there was one big takeaway from that meal.

Yeah, I think I know where this is going. The subject of tequila worms came up. So I mean, I wasn't familiar with because at the end of the meal, yeah, the waiter came over and was like, do you want shots? And they were like free, so it was like, okay, sure, I'll have a tequila shot. So, of course, yeah, this topic of the tequila worm comes up. um my my father was there and he was saying about how he had a roommate that would like fight over the tequila worm or yeah he wanted to prove himself in the it was a masculinity attached to the tequila worm some kind of like you know like you eat the hottest chili to prove something

it's kind of a similar thing which i'm gonna i'm gonna eat the tequila worm and yeah he was describing it as kind of a like a ritual that makes you spin out and like hallucinate you see like a different timeline I've never heard of the tequila worm so I'm like they're messing yeah

I even Google like tequila worm and the first result is like don't believe the tequila worm myth so I'm thinking like they're lying they're just trying to yank the chain and then someone mentions to the waiter oh have you ever tried the tequila worm and just like completely deadpan

he's like oh yeah I've tried the worm Yeah, it was like I was in Mexico. I had many worms. Yeah. Yeah. So then I'm like, oh, so like, it's real. It's real. It's confirmed by a third party. All this worm law that I just, it's been there for so long. And it's, I did some research because I was like, I was genuinely asking myself, like, would I eat the tequila worm? What I mess with that worm? And for some reason, it was important to me what, what that worm would become. Is it, is it like, is it like? a caterpillar situation that's going to turn into like a butterfly or is this like a grub that's going to be like a gross something you just don't even want to think about you know yeah luckily the tequila worm turns into a moth really yeah okay and it lives in cacti if it feasts on the fruit that you make tequila out of yeah okay i don't know how the guy figured out that if you put it in the drink it changes the flavor that's

Is that why they... Do they still do that? Do they just not have the worm in the bottle? It's like a certain type of tequila. Okay. We'll have the worm. Right. So does it turning into something beautiful

make it better to eat? Or worse? It makes a neutral to eat instead of like horrible. So if it stayed ugly, then it would be bad to eat. you wouldn't want to eat it i just there's something about grubs yeah yeah i mean because i'm kind of of the stance like it is a grub yeah grubs a grub when if you're gonna eat a grub then i'm gonna be honest i have no good reason for why i feel that way i just am

it's like an emotional response it's completely emotional driven like no logic like that's just how that's gonna be that's fair yeah got no way to justify it okay Okay, so the conclusion, would you worm? I think I would have to try the tequila worm. Worse comes worse. Worms like a little protein snack. Uh-huh. You know, soaked in...

Well, that's best case scenario. Worst case scenario, you... You spin out on tequila worm. Yeah. Or it wasn't dead, and it grows within. Ah, last of us sort of situation type of thing. Yeah. mothman type stuff and uh speaking i guess of video game television uh coast linium can get us started on this topic that i want to talk to you about i don't know if you guys still talk about tv shows or not but what do you think about the fallout tv show this is also prescient with um last episode we had that person collated buzz words we'd said over many many episodes oh my god yeah um one of them was

was fallout it's gonna skyrocket so yeah I kind of briefly mentioned my thoughts on episode one a few episodes back when you hadn't seen any of it but we've both seen it all now yeah I binge the hell out of it yeah it is very bingeable it's kind of written that way man I got to say I was pleasantly surprised because from the ads and stuff I thought the same yeah they're saying gonna be good like there's no way right thought um if anything it was gonna be like halo tv because yeah and in my mind like the the weight still leans towards like bad adaptations like even when everyone was hyped about the last of us there's nothing like really exciting outside of that one episode like episode two or

three that's like it's own self-contained story um i'd just rather play the games where I was saying this to you, I think, yesterday. Yeah. This Fallout show offers something to me that I can't really get from the games. And actually, if anything, would now make jumping back into Fallout 4 or something like this better for me because now I actually have a little bit of context as to, oh, that faction is that, I guess. That's the motives. That's the motivation.

Yeah. And I just had the right tone. yeah um even though the all the factions in the show were like pre-established ones from like the first two games um yeah because i've never fit like for context i've never finished a fallout game i've played maybe like 10 hours of full out for five hours of new Vegas and a couple hours of three

um yeah so i really i know nothing um which was part of what was interesting about you bringing up yesterday in our conversation um tell me about like the the nerd stuff the law bits yeah they're talking about stuff that I guess I must have missed like loads of details so I was picking up like oh that's the the med kit thing from the game yeah that's a reference there that's obvious stuff but beyond the surface level like names of places and references to events and things I wouldn't pick up but Yeah, of which there's, like, loads of, down to the, like, nitty-gritty of the, like, set design.

It's one-to-one. The computers are identical to the computers in the game. A hacking mini-game. Yeah, there's a character hacks at one point, and it is the mini-game. There's something about that, like, retro aesthetic that does so much the heavy lifting for me, where that there's something about it like it somehow avoids the corniness

that other adaptations really have to me like the uncharted film or even like that cyberpunk show and stuff like that there's like a cornyness a self-awareness to the tone

that diffuses some of the more goofy stuff that might bother me another place because it is colourful, it is weird, it does have a pretty lighthearted tone for most of the time, is able to whip out some more, kind of serious or... It hits both the drama and the comedy, I think, equally well for the most part. It made me appreciate Fallout 4's art design more, because the jump from

New Vegas to Fallout 4 like the vibrancy like the everything pops yeah and that was something I remember people kind of liked about three and New Vegas was it's like the greyest

grey browny green I mean it's based in Vegas so it is more like colorful um than three but still like everything's kind of washed out and murky and like you really feel the filth in those games in three and four and three in Vegas

yeah um full up four's a bit more polished but i think like due to the set design and stuff in in the show you really you get that filthiness and yeah yeah and also like down to the costume design and the contrast of like the people in the vaults that are squeaky clean they like filter their language and stuff like that like they won't swear and they're just kind of like overly nice like a caricature of like the nuclear family basically yeah it's just like been preserved and that constant like jump and um juxtaposition i guess of that is like a constant source of good humor for me yeah some of the best humor was that stuff for me um yeah it can hit that that angle way better than the games because I don't it was kind of like a different thing like when like in New Vegas which is a lot of people's favorite fallout um a lot of the humor is in the writing of like the responses like oh that's a really funny response I could say if I wanted to lean this way and they might have a funny thing to say back but that's like that feels different than like the comedic

timing you need to the flow of a TV show um yeah and it never goes into like i said like self-aware and that is part of it but it's not like debaulie it doesn't feel marvely even though could almost get there at points it just avoids all these things like the you're saying about the sets like that was i was loving that too like the production design is really good like when you're in the vault it feels like they're in a vault and there's like a big door that moves and you know there's a lot of like practical decisions with the the tools they're holding and the even the power armor in certain ways yeah because you you said um about the it looking kind of cosplay and it it did kind of feel that way at points but yeah in other times it like you

totally believe it it it feels yeah i brought that up in the first episode because there's like a shot of like five dudes in power armor and i thought it was going to be more like the Halo show with there's loads of like camera flying around CG guys just sprinting and it's just like total schlock yeah and they never really go there it's reeled back and I just I was glad with the structure of it being like character led and it's like each one builds up to something interesting cuts goes to want Goggins see what he's up to he's got the whole element of jumping forwards and back in time and like just sprinkling all these different locations and it's like how's this all like linking characters like splitting up

getting meeting up in different ways and going back to locations that are in episode one or two there's like a cool structure and field to it yeah i think there's only one moment of like this is a bit much of a coincidence that they do do that a lot um um for the most part they avoid it It happens like once, which I'm fine with if it, there wasn't like a reliance on it. Yeah, it's just, I don't know, it wasn't the main crux of what I was enjoying about it was like the mechanics of how everything was working like that. It was more like the aesthetic, the mystery around Walton Goggins. um the like humor of the stuff in the vault the like secrets of like what are the what's a vault tech doing what i like the whole and it's in the games too right the gimmick vaults and like yeah yeah

what was number 25 up to and how does that contrast to vault 60 or yeah yeah the world is cool and interesting to me um and they build it out like just enough yeah for sure um and the fact that it's a TV show makes it able to tell the story more interestingly because all of the pre-war stuff in the games apart from like the beginning

of four is told through audio logs and reading stuff on terminals like that's not the most engaging way to tell a story and you don't really have a choice

in in a game Um, in Fallout 3 there's a D.C where you like play a simulation of the Anchorage conflict. Yeah, yeah, I've heard about that before. Um, which is one way of doing it, but like, it's the time hopping using the ghoul to like tie the two timelines together. I love the ghoul stuff. Yeah, like everything is set up and they use the universe and what's already pre-established in that universe to tell this story and teach rules to someone

who like me really doesn't get why everything is the way it is. Yeah and I'm definitely not like the biggest fallout nut like the one I've played the most is four. Four is the only one I've played to conclusion You played big chunks of Vegas

though? Yeah I've played a lot of Vegas I've tried to finish Vegas three times I think the PC port is atrocious um but i've always had an affinity for the universe yeah so have i that's why i've tried the game so many times yeah but kind of like you said it's nice to be able to enjoy fallout without playing it at least have that option you know yeah yeah it is cool and a bunch of really talented just character actors in there um the like bad guy from mr robot it's a

brotherhood guy um that old dude that's right that's that's who i thought was in game of yeah yeah that's yeah um he's awesome uh kyle mcglock kyle mcgloch um yeah twin peaks um yeah the day of character um what and gorgans obviously it's the big standout they even do they do stuff that like shouldn't work um but kind of just got me like the they do the war line they do it yeah and just that powers and everything it's like okay yeah you earned that that's that's hilarious you like got that in there and it's not just looking at the camera yeah just doing it for the the sake of it it's like in a moment it's like in that last episode it's yeah yeah it's pretty awesome and even um even not knowing the games very well I know like some of the

music from Fallout 4 and it's sprinkled in there there are a couple of moments where they're using it was like oh this is cool it's used in reference specifically to New Vegas oh really I think that's the first time they use it is um when the new Californian Republic flag which is from New Vegas I had this real moment where I was like oh it's nice for like something

that's based on a video game to not be ashamed that it's based on a video game I like it because I've seen like just coping desperate Halo fans who have like taken scenes from the show and it's like look if we put the real music look at the difference it makes it's like yeah

yeah it's like so obvious you know yeah I was just kind of surprised they didn't use it more yeah it was like really restrained like only having I was for sure thought they were gonna shove in like a death claw whatever because I thought they love shoving those guys in like they do the power armor all the time it's like what it's just a skull yeah only only little reference there like right at the end um I guess um there were a few things that I didn't love um

some of performances aren't great from like some random side characters that are like come in that are like distractingly bad

just for like a scene or two um there's that there there is some like crazy CG that's like

really obviously CG um yeah but that it wasn't really bugging me because there is something just so cartoony

about the world yeah it didn't it never pulled me out um yeah i was fine with it and all things considered there's a lot of tv shows that have looked like yeah yeah that's why the those sets were really standing out to me yeah i feel like that was more important to have the like it's grounded in what looks like a real space if you got like a diby cg globular yeah i thought the the like brotherhood storyline took like quite a while to get

good or interesting for me I didn't really get where that was going until those characters were paired up and were kind of stuck together and then that dynamic was actually way more interesting to me than what was going on previously

yeah it kind of relies on a Macuffin yeah so there's not all that much investment from like his act motivation to do what he's doing. There was, and I know it is part of Fallout's whole aesthetic, and like world building is like this critique of capitalism thing, and that comes out a lot in the dialogue, some

of which just felt, I don't know, it felt like kind of heavy-handed in how it was, yeah on an Amazon Prime TV show yeah an IP that's owned by Microsoft and Mr. Robot would do that as well but like it was probably better written yeah

better presented because like I thought the writing was fun for when it's like there's like an action thing going on as well and Goggins like killing everyone in a town or holding up someone in their kitchen or something and he's got his

kind of zingy lines or whatever that stuff the corny guys in the vault and the main character's brother and that whole stuff I loved loved that whole intrigue and whatnot um

yeah some of it I guess just yeah it's very heavy-handed um I guess like spoilers there's a scene with like a bunch of big business owners and they're like

what if we get a bunch of poor people and make them all fight it's like yeah because it was like it was there was there was a point where it's at a good level where that kind of stuff was being implied to be happening anyway and you just see that would be happening and by not showing it it was kind of better and then indulging to that degree was just like all right yeah i get like is it you supposed to be over exaggerating or is this like to communicate um how grieve you're this company is and illustrate the point and it felt just like you're making the same point just like again and again at this point yeah and the whole kind of show has been leaning that way anyway yeah I think I was fine with it because tonally it's so goofy it's yeah I just love that it is able to take itself seriously while being goofy. Like it's not, it's so far removed from any reality where it's like it's in the future

but culturally they're in the past. Yeah. It kind of works for me like everything is exaggerated. Everything is like, it's not grounded. Yeah. So critiquing capitalism in a world that doesn't reflect ours at all. isn't as like atrocious

to me it's like a private company basically nukes the world yeah I don't spoilers sorry private company makes it so the world is newt in order to justify

their like vault product yeah I I don't know if that is like the law like they they did do it

I don't know if that scene was just to imply that they would right okay like that's how far they would go like if it doesn't happen they're going to make it happen anyway it may be in the law like I say

I'm not like that well read on fallout law yeah I know like nothing about fallout law so but I like that angle and I was confused because like some of the responses and whatnot I've seen online people like really anti it before it came out then it switched on a dime but then just like the games there's all these subsections of like oh people don't like the aesthetic of Fallout 4 and 76 and that

imagery is used in the show a lot so then that section of Bethesda fans like are complaining about that because that's been and it's like oh my god like what part because i saw new Vegas fans complaining that like disrespects new Vegas on like yeah so what is like what actually is happening i didn't really get that vibe at all because like i've i've played new Vegas a fair amount and the fact that it's included to the degree that it is um like the spoilers the the end of the show is setting up that it's like going to be based in Vegas yeah which looks like a new Vegas season basically yeah which I feel like you don't really they know who they're making the show for they're making it like

for yeah they make they've they've managed to do it they've made it for like new people and hardcore fans yeah and that's another hilarious contrast with the halo show where the the news around that was like They were bragging, I think it was showrunners or writers on season one, like, yeah, we don't even play the games, we don't even. Yeah, yeah. Whereas the writers here and Jonathan Nolan, Chris Nolan's brother, talking about, oh yeah, I love Fallout 3. And he's like, actually has played the game and gets what it's going for. Yeah, and you can feel that.

You can feel that watching the show. Yeah, there's like everyone's having fun. There's like an infectious, joyous kind of thing going on. Yeah, everyone's excited to be. Everyone gets it all these like random comedians showing up and like this is like this they're selling it this really works and I bet you Amazon's gonna take away like the worst dumbest um like takes from this because they're gonna see oh Lord of the Rings failed wonder why um oh probably because it's serious we need everything to be the boys and be like

joky and be yeah goofy um and like just never do anything serious ever again yeah um but yeah i enjoyed it i'd watch another show of it need more goggins for sure that character rocks yeah i was getting worried that he was gonna croak towards the end um and just briefly before we go to mid break um i wanted to mention invincible as well because yeah jim's holding up i got the compendium one which um i guess brief aside like this This is one guy who's like, he's been building up like a villain in Invincible, like building power in the background for like ages. I've seen his comments. I've seen his rage where like he's got this whole conspiracy theory about me like disliking attack on Titan and like being really unfair to attack on Titan.

Because I posted on Twitter a picture like, I bought this, I'm going to read it. He'd like taken that and put a screenshot of it on the. subreddit but just subreddit like shit talking invincible saying is big mouth um and this and it was all all stem from attack on titan some reason i don't i don't really get the comparison but okay here we are um but i read all of that manga and i'm now starting to read invincible because i'm not patient enough to wait for how long the show is taking to get through it um where do you stand on attack on Titan. Well, I'll save that for another day.

Yeah, so I haven't actually read up to where season two ends, which wrapped up like a couple months ago or something, a month or two. No one's seen it because there was no advertising. Yeah, luckily, I guess it's got like rabid fans. Yeah. I mean, I only found out it was out because of you. yeah and I only saw it because I think I was scrolling on Twitter or something

and there was just a targeted ad that was like new episode out and I was like oh yeah you're back that's crazy yeah the way they released it was stupid it's like they're trying to soundbag it like why you it's awesome it's really good why are you hiding it

why are you like splitting it in half and not telling anyone yeah I I think season one's better but it's like hard to beat like that last episode um yeah first and last episode of what just that chunk of the story has it's like almost unfair um yeah it's got like a real hook to such a like yeah and a rugpole moment for the main character but it's not so they don't do some cool stuff there's

some it feels kind of more scatterbrained as far as like and the comic does it too it like kind of jumps around a lot and you don't really see why it's doing that until like ten issues later or something so oh this random thing I thought was a throwaway subplot is actually coming back getting fleshed out now oh this character who like sucked or was lame um like rexplosion or whatever it's like oh in this episode suddenly they're going to do something to him flesh him out yeah not redeem him but just make you see him in a different way. Yeah, make you want him around. Yeah, and it's like, oh

yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't think I've watched a show that does that so effectively, like it's like you say, the way it just throws something in there and then two episodes later you've forgotten about

it and then suddenly it comes back a little bit and then it's gone again. Okay, this is going to turn into something but I've got no idea when. Yeah, and it's really good at getting characters who despite their power or some are like so OP putting them in situations where the tension

is real and it feels like they're actually in danger and the stakes as a result of the thing that's about to happen is actually going to change everything like everything feels important and things can just completely change on a dime like when

I don't know if I should mention specifics um what do you think um well i could say spoiler warning yeah i'll put just a spoiler in the time code but yeah um when that viltramite woman like just shows up when that dinner um yeah that's a good example or like when he goes to meet his dad and his dad does like a kid with a buck yeah and he's just playing it so straight and he's just his um marks a voice actor the rocks he is awesome he's incredible he like he really sells it

and he really like makes up for some of the like some of the animation stuff that is not up to par what did you think of the self referential where they're like that's right that's a reference to a really funny gag in the comic

um where yeah mark goes to get his comic book signed by the comic artist and the comic artics makes a joke about reusing panels. Right. But they adapted that, yeah, to kind of prod the animation industry. I just think it would be funnier if the show, like, did look incredible at points or something.

Saying that, it looks significantly better than season one. It looks better than season one, but, man, like, there is some really good stuff in the last episode of season one. Yeah. I'm not sure if they've got back to you. The whole budget went into the last episode. Yeah, yeah, that episode is kind of like everything. Like, just some of their, like, poses and stuff that are, like, straight out of the comic or whatnot that are just, like, burned into my mind. Just the brutality of, like, the lines that are coming out there as well.

Yeah. Yeah, it's fucked up. But, yeah, the stuff that's, like, different from the book so far, mostly I'm like, yeah, I see why the show did that. Like, um, because I think like the writer Robert Kirkman had a, he's got a big involvement in the show and it seems like, it seems like writer brain of like, oh, if I could have added this to this character then, then maybe, and that seems kind of what the show is doing. Um, yeah, my biggest notes are just like, I wish the animation was slightly better. Um, maybe, maybe reel back on some of the celebrity voices and like put the money into the animation. Um, just, yeah, as long as we got Mark and Omneman voices around, I don't care. Um, yeah, and his mom as well, actually, it's very good. Um, yeah, she's a great. Basically, every character that they give time to is worthwhile. Uh-huh. Um, it, and there's, but I, I love the twins. I love robot as well. Um, um, they just got, yeah, these really random weird characters and,

the fact it's all like early on in the comic it's just super just like parody heavy it almost feels like it's like making fun not quite boys level it's like yeah this panel's making fun of star trick this panel's making fun of this nerd thing this is making fun of fantastic four this is making fun of Batman blah blah blah blah yeah and the way it like builds up into because I remember reading the Walking Dead as well which is other book um what the same writer yeah yeah yeah Kirkman created both yeah um and that story having things happen where you get that like pit in your stomach thing um and it feels like they're stake to the world and it's unpredictable yeah that Game of Thrones kind of thing was you know yeah good like hooks and it's like addictive in that way yeah for sure yeah just make it a bit faster season two feels more like they're setting up a bunch of strands for like stuff that's going to be important later yeah i like how they put a pin on some of them or like you have to do it but we've got to get past it comic book trope type things of like i'm trying to juggle like doing college work and being

a superhero and like by the end he's like you know what i'm just yeah pointless like i'm gonna live thousands of years like this really is pointless um yeah getting to the kind of wrapping up the the stuff with his girlfriend and how that was like inevitable they couldn't work I'm glad that's got a bow on it yeah the only thing is I feel like they could have wrapped that up in last yeah yeah I think the audience twigs on way earlier than the character yeah yeah and that's just not a great character that equivalent character is really different in the book and also sucks there um one of the biggest improvements is his his gay friend in the show who's straight in the comic um but like he has nothing to do he's like such a boring

like pointless character so far anyway yeah i'm like 25 issues in or something and he's like just just there kind of um where they actually give yeah because he's he's kind to do he's he's quite important um uh-huh yeah so guess we'll see after these messages yeah giant media shirts now or I'm going to hurt you description below

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suggestion thread there you can ask us questions about anything any which way hello baby yeah you like my style baby um alfonso the second can get us going here bear bear boys how's the act project going where I guess some call it the EC oh yep um steady steady as steady as she what Steady as she goes Steady as she goes, they say Steady as she goes That's got potential It's already a song

Jack White Oh really? Yeah Oh that's a shame Yeah I was just covering it My eyes turned into dollar signs When you hear a

A potential Fat beat Sineck Don Docky 2399 says universal pictures is planning a terrible terrible soft reboot of back to the future who are the new and returning cast members and what's the premise i don't think that's real but i think this is a hypothetical yeah i'm because i think zemeckis like has a

he's got like a blood packed with that other writer where he's like no one's doing anything i'll make three back to the futures if we have the rights and you never touch it unless we well until we die yeah yeah so well they died is Robert Zamacca's died he's going to be killed soon he's going to be killed so they can so they can desecrate back to the future like they've done Ghostbusters or any number of was it's what like 60 years until they can oh it's just take domain or whatever yeah yeah well what's let's answer the question then who are the new and returning cast members and what's the premise um Justin Roylin plays both

I was going to make a similar joke where I was going to have it so Rick and Morty are characters in the film and they like team up with Doc and Marty yeah like like like what's that basketball movie Space Jam? Space Jam Space Jam style

Space Jam Space Jam model yeah the new Space Jam as well or legacy model yeah is it who what what like mega corporation owns um get the clockwork orange rapists in there um yeah um yeah maybe maybe the clockwork orange rapists get the car and they start raping

all across time um so they got a team up of rick and morty yeah maybe jerry um gets get jerry in there why not get the whole have you seen the back to the future trilogy have you just seen the first one or what even the first one i didn't actually if you've seen i've definitely seen the first one um you probably like i don't think i've seen the sequel i don't think i've seen the sequels people like hate three i think but i thought it was like fun and silly yeah enjoyable yeah i should it's just um you know kind of breezy i i prefer uh i prefer like watching things i i i've already seen do you know what i mean I don't want to be introduced to no ideas

Ah, right, well, I can relate to that part Um Press Start 14 has one I'm mixed on Thanks Alex for making it easier to annoy my friend I enjoy annoying my friends Slash roommate in minor ways Like asking them stupid questions or saying something strange To see how they respond

Sort of like old crackhead Alex era Though perhaps less extreme eventually he learned to ignore what I when I'd say stupid shit and not respond I decided to use Alex's classic trick of going eh after no response and lo and behold the trick always seems to annoy him enough to respond thanks Alex I don't know how I feel about that I don't know if that's too I never intended to do you feel like Einstein like he discovered like Einstein yeah like Oppenheimer what have I done what have I done what have I

unveiled to the world what have I yeah I don't know I do I wonder do I give off the impression that like that's just all like every interaction I have with people is like you're a pet poo yeah like something I mean you can't fault a listener for I guess I'm maybe this is the glass break moment for me where I've, like, realize how I've acted my whole life. You reflect on your Oppenheimerisms. What? Oh, one, one bad day says,

Sting not being finished is making me up very uncomfortable. Can you please just put Sting 4-4 in the title of the next episode, even if it's not a Sting episode? No. Of course not. You knew around here. Yeah, that's stupid. like really

you're even asking that question I'm thinking about canceling it I'm thinking about canceling it and I nearly cancelled this question and there's no obligation to answer it and there's only one reason I bring it up um Gigi noodles 1 says hey jar

I've got an external external hemorrhoid taken out a few days ago and it really hurt thoughts have you got any hemmy experience and that's what made me screenshot it. Hemmy. Hemmy. You can't be shortening it like you're so familiar and your pals with it.

He was listening to Drake and he thought that's what Drake was rapping about. My hemies. Every now and again, there's like, there's a comment that will jump out because of the phrasing. Yeah. And it's like, you're way too comfortable with that phrasing. you can't use it all the time I mean yeah me and hemmy went down

yeah he goes everywhere with me um yeah I mean do it hell yeah I'm I'm I'm down with this guy

like it's his experience hmm or her very adult of you I don't mean mature yeah if you want to if you want to hear about hemorrhoids it's just like

listen to the other like 400 episodes yeah you gotta do a control F search for hemorrhoids. Yeah, on that thing. Talked about it more than fucking Halo. Um,

let's do this one, a little bit chunky, but hear me out. From the Perils of Shuffle. Hey, Ja. Just following on from your future, potential visits to America, I was actually out in San Francisco the same week as you were in Vegas. Me and some friends stayed for four nights in the city, followed by hiring a car to travel to... Oh God, I'm going to embarrass myself.

Yosemite? for the rest yeah i think that's right yoza might hooray what you said about homelessness in l.a was pretty applicable to san fran the city is currently going through a fentanyl crisis as is a lot of places in america and canada i think it's spread to as well and has always had a huge amount of homeless people the first thing we saw as we left the subway from the airport was a homeless woman screaming at everyone walking out of the station swinging a huge plank of of woods saying she was going to kill us i saw at least two people taking shits in the street what's wild about it though is this sort of unspoked is this sort of unspoken thing we are

supposed to not see all the mad stuff going on around you and just admire the city as if you're supposed to disconnect from all the poverty and social issues and focus on the more affluent and culturally impressive side of it all needless to say as a fellow neurotic i find that particularly hard to do i would recommend san fran though the golden gate bridge and alcat were particular highlights. Also the first time I've seen fully functional on hireable self-driving cars, Waymo cars in SF at least. We are truly loving and living, I think they meant, in a cyberpunk dystopia. As much as I enjoy the city, I have to say actually driving through the state was the real highlight for me. I

deliberately drove us way out of the way to small towns and weird little stop-offs. And sometimes it was clear they didn't get tourists much and was seriously some of the kindest and most welcoming people I've ever met whilst travelling. They seemed genuinely interested in us and wanted to give us tons of tips and places to go in things to see in Yosemite. Yosemite itself was insanely beautiful. It was still out of season, so there wasn't a huge influx of other tourists. Some of the higher mountain ranges were actually impassable due to the heavy snow that

occurred overnight. It was pretty bizarre, hiking up mountain trails one day, dripping with sweat and going back the following day to see it transformed into a real winter wonderland. Anyway, no question really, just thought I'd share a bit of my experience and recommendation at least for seeing Yosemite or other national parks, Bear Bear Boys. He was basically doing exactly what we were talking about, um, dream doing one day of some kind of like drive. Like a road trip. Good idea, yeah, go there, hire a car, go through some natural, um, wonderland. Yeah, um, it's, it does, um, the, the neurotic side of me. just thinks it's the setup for a horror movie um like it doesn't get more generic so

yeah um but yeah i think it's funny like the the hub of technological advancement in america basically in the world is in san francisco where it's known for its homeless people perling in the streets it's weird that yeah and it's not like we don't have homeless people here um yeah we do something i is it is different though something i've noticed every time i visited america is the abundance of homelessness everywhere um there's yeah i've been to three different i've been to three different states and they are in abundance um it's yeah it's pretty shocking um the people have there's kind of sad at all very sad attitude where people look and they think they got themselves into that mess yeah yeah

there's yeah they might they might have taken a drug once and that's why they're there they took a weed and yeah yeah it something like it branched something too simplistic or like just you know it's not thinking about this very deeply yeah um and it is that that like Reagan that batch of like personal um personal responsibility responsibility yeah yeah and individual like power there's no acknowledgement that your pick yourself up by your bootstraps yeah circumstances has no bearing on where you might end up um which is stupid dumb and idiot i think dumb and idiot and it's unfortunate that entire like communities and enclaves can just form in places like LA and San Francisco and there was I think someone

replied to it I didn't screenshot it saying it was happening in Austin Texas as well and other big cities and yeah you see it in London you see it you see it in most cities actually but yeah yeah it does seem just though a different intensity maybe you got to wait for the the trickle-down economics to reach the bottom you know it must be like halfway there still in the gutter or something like it's it's going down just just wait for it and it'll be fine it works the system as we're already on this kind of thing the blimp fruit says hi fellas was refreshing to hear your thoughts on the state of transport in the u.s and UK and how it compares to some other European countries like the

Netherlands Denmark Germany etc it really is sad living in the UK seeing our lack of good trains and cycle paths and then comparing it to our neighbors who do all of that so much better than us. On the point you made about the US being a blank canvas, insanity goes even further than this. The USA was in fact built on its railroads first, and many cities had streetcar slash tram lines. But the car lobbies in the mid-20th centuries

caused the street-car lines to be ripped out to make more space for cars. And in some cities, minority neighborhoods were demolished to make way for massive highways. Keep up the great work guys and games flash goon. It's nice, isn't it? Yep. Um...

More trams, I say. Everywhere should have trams. Yeah. Trams are awesome. There are good tram systems up north. There was a good one in Toronto when I was there. It had a cool one. It is possible. Places in Europe do it. Yeah.

Um... They kind of represent like a... A threat. Extreme communist... Uh... danger I think so you got to

you got to approach the tram with a bit of trepidation yeah I can imagine all of the like parks and wreck tier like council meetings of people picketing trams

and things like this because why what because it might turn it into a 15 minute city convenience which is actually a trap yeah it's actually a conspiracy to trap you

you're not allowed to leave uh fit search nine six three four says bear bear boy boys have a question for you who'd win in a fight a lobotomized ape or three small genius monkeys the fight takes place in a small enclosed forest area with plenty of rocks and sticks laying around the battle only ends once the ape has massacred all three monkeys or the monkey team have successfully eliminated the ape. The monkeys each have an IQ of 300,

while the ape has no thoughts or feelings other than pure rage. In deep thought on that one. Yeah. I think the ape gets it. Really? It's got pure rage on his side, and it's... All it needs to do, they've got, you know, they've got human hands, they've got thumbs, opposable thumbs.

if a if the hand reaches the limb of one of those monkeys it's over so as long as if they can outpace monkeys are pretty nimble they're like they are but to beat the ape

they're gonna have to do something to him right yeah but what ape and what monkey um i was picturing like a chimp a chimps see i was picturing a gorilla because i feel like a gorilla wouldn't be able to keep up with monkeys and that would be in He's coordinating with extreme intelligence.

Yeah, that's like a combined IQ of 900. They could probably like there, they could figure out like how to tire out the gorilla or something. Yeah, tire out the gorilla and then fashion like a catapult. I'm thinking if it's a chimp who are fast, who can probably catch up are nimble.

Like 10 times stronger than humans. I think they might be done even with that intelligent. Like, what the hell could they do? A raging chimp. I don't think they stand a chance, these poor little monks. Yeah, but the chimp is lobotomized. Yeah, yeah, but he specified, right, that all it has, it has no feelings, except pure rage. But does it have, like, good coordination and stuff?

I feel like if you're lobotomized, then you're going to struggle to... I think he only mentioned that, so, like, to take out any element of empathy, I guess. I don't know. Right? I don't know. Even though Chimps enjoy torturing anyway, so... Yeah. I'm not quite like it.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know, find out. Do it for real. That was a funny thing about the Fallout show, where some of the concept of the vaults is like a society where scientists dictate the society. Yeah, they have like 100% control. 100% control of unregulated science. Yeah. And spoilers, when he's like dying, he's like, don't use this as an example of when you're getting scientists 100% freedom. That was awesome.

Hmm. Let me see if I can find one more nice one to get at. Shit, no, I'm going to do two more. This one from Map Runner, UK. Did you know that there was supposed to be a London version of the Vegas sphere, but it was rejected by Sadiq Khan. Did you also know that Top Golf was founded in the UK? And there are four locations here. The closest to you is probably the Surrey one.

Bear Bear Bear Boys. Sorry! I didn't know either of those things, but I'm glad Sidit Khan did reject that idea, because that would... It belongs in Vegas. Big and stupid and, like, elaborate and... yeah like this big like waste of power yeah it's gonna show you preachy movies about the

environment destroying it um yeah let's not do that in london we don't need that i don't think i think we're good we'll have a we'll have an orb someday yeah everything will be orb soon enough yeah houses will be orbs would you want a orb house um that shoots a beam of light into the sky. Everyone can, like, shoot beams up and, like, disturb air traffic. Yeah. Make birds, like, fly into trees and shit. Confused birds, so they think it's always daytime a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. I want wildlife to be as disruptive as possible. Doesn't that happen with the eclipse or something? Like, birds get confused when the sun is covered, and they're like, oh, night-eat, night-time. Yeah. And then the moon moves, and they're, like... Morning.

And finally, see, if you can pass this one for me, I feel like I've read this. Maybe I'm just stupid. Read this a few times, but he's kind of Jordan Pizzing us a little bit here. Oh, okay. Interesting. Rated DG says, Is it bad to actively contribute to an institution you predominantly disagree with on an ideological level to avoid dying alone? Well, first you have to break down the word what? No, break down the word is.

Yeah. Is it bad to actively contribute to an institution you predominantly disagree with on an ideological level to avoid dying alone? What do you mean? Actively contribute to an institution. I'm hung up on the institution part and dying alone. Yeah, why does a dying alone have to do with being a part of an institution you don't necessarily agree with for a start. Did you ask AI to write like a wordy question or something?

I mean, when it comes to contributing to institutions that you morally disagree with, I'm afraid a lot of the time you don't really have a choice unless you want to be a total like, hermit rejects off the grid, live in a hole in the ground. you don't have a choice um things are set up things are way bigger than like any one person can control and that's meant that um kind of hypocrisy thing is also mentioned in the fallout

show there's like a little debate conversation about that kind of idea with um what goggins and yeah yeah um it's like if you disagree with the system that you are born into an a part of the answer isn't necessarily to just reject it, surely the answer is to use it against itself. That's in theory better than just doing nothing.

Yeah. But then you're just kind of doing the thing. Like the it's a snake eating its own time. Yeah, yeah. Then it's something bigger, as you're saying, than yourself. Like you can't control the system you're born into. If you're born

into the royal family hundreds of years ago you know might be pretty good for you if you're born as like a peasant might have been pretty shit yeah what can you change and that's

that's when you like change I guess comes in the form of uniting with like minded people but if you're like an anti-capitalist or like good luck not having a job

and never buying anything Yeah Like I wish you well But you're gonna I think you should set up a merch Store and sell merch Yeah

To fund your anti-capitalist movement Yeah Saying yeah Eat the rich maybe That might be funny Yeah So a thought provoking question I think I might

I might see when Jordan Peterson's touring and take that to him and stun lock him for three days. Yeah, he'll start crying. Like, yeah, I wouldn't mind a little bit more context on that question. Specifically, the last bit. Like, what's the institution you're morally against

that stands in the way, like, Tinder? You're talking about getting like Tinder. Tinder's not an institution. Yeah. Right? Yeah, what are you talking about? What constitutes an institute? Um, I feel like there needs to be some kind of like governing body involved.

Yeah, the board of dating up directors. Fucked it. Yeah.