JAR Media Posdact - Speculated FAZBEAR - Brocast #5

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

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Bros Bros Bras aren't drama enough The bro The bro vibe is It's not the same. Not enough, um, anger. Yeah.

Do we agree too much? Do we, I was just about to say, do we agree too much? Um, there are things we disagree on. There are things we disagree on. Like? Hmm. Like. Like.

Maybe they kind of got a point. Oh, me. I mean. I mean, people say that. sat domicast too when ralph left they were like you guys agreed too much man yeah it's like well it's not even true you would just say stuff like we did like two or three episodes in a row where we like recommended silly dumb movies that were just like breezy and a talking cat or whatever yeah um people like well they never talk about good movies anymore

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Share my special interest with somebody This is it's a little bit disturbing and there's a little bit I've got a bit of context here I've got to give you okay um I'm gonna start with this right

it might be confusing at first but it's gonna it's gonna make sense the more context they give you right so this is where we're starting okay right interesting start I got to this is going to involve a lot of sound and me playing sounds out of the iPad

the mic should pick them up but this is about sound right I'm about to play a sound an animal that lives today makes okay I need to guess what it is is this gonna freak me out it is gonna freak you out it freep me out and I can't stop thinking about it's why I gotta mention this okay so this is an animal you know that I know that everyone should be scared of and this is the sound it makes okay and this is important for the context of what I'm gonna be bringing up okay so that's the that's the animal right is that it's like voice that's it's yeah it's opening its mouth and that's what its vocal chords can can make so what do you

think that is like it's going to be some sort of bear right it ain't a mammal is it like a Is it like a crocodile? It's not a crocodile. Can you... How can I give you a clue without ruining it? It lives in Australia. Huntsman spider. Not an insect.

They're not insects. Sorry, arachnid. No arachnid. And it ain't no insect either. Um, a cassowary? Like a bird? It is. Yeah.

Oh my God. So keep that idea in your mind, right? Something that exists today can make that noise, right? Yeah. Let's go back. Let's go back quite a few million years. You're going to pull out, like, Jurassic Park, the velociraptive vocal. Kind of.

Intelligent Echo 7049. Can get this. Really good. Hello fart munches. Have either of you ever dipped into listening to speculated dinosaur sounds? Very different from what's shown in media, but really cool. Many theropods would have made bellows that were so deep that you could feel the vibration. It's similar to how crocodiles vibrate their throat.

wrote. So, I found this video, which, uh, I hope is accurate. If it, if this is like complete BS, let me know, or whatever. But this is what, a video from two years ago, it's nearly got 3 million views. Um, with the context in the description. An ongoing study utilizing the most recent scientific data on dinosaur vocalizations. Sounds are produced by myself and digitally workshop from modern non- Srinx-based avian reptiles, using skull and olfactory cavity proportions, one can attempt to recreate the flow of sound frequency and volume of each animal. Much study is required for each particular species, and often several phases are trashed due to general unlikely. The final results are based on acute representations of what sounds would be most comfortable and baseline for each animal. Video also includes two marine reptiles and a pterosaur, even though both are much more difficult to produce accurately. So there's a handful here of a kind of speculated sounds.

Not based on nothing. You know, there's some basis here. I'm warning you now that the stuff this evokes is like, you think the T-Rex and Jurassic Park is scary now. That's nothing. That's nothing. Too grounded. It's more like it's six.

I really like the sound design in like the Jurassic Park movies. Yeah, awesome. They're awesome what they came up with. It's like five roars of different animals. Yeah, yeah. They take like the roar of a lion. They take like pig noises. They take all this kind of stuff.

Not necessarily accurate, though. The size of the animals for, you know, the biology of them. So we got a couple options here. We got start with the classic Velociraptor. Okay. Let's go with the raptors. This is going to be creepy as hell. So Veloceraptors are not like

how they're depicted in Jurassic Park They're much smaller They were tiny I'm pretty sure they used the What actually called I think they're called Dynonicus Which were more the size of what they're, like, has shown in Jurassic Park, but obviously would not be as effective and Dynonicus doesn't roll off the tongue like Velociraptor. So they're kind of combining ideas or whatever.

That one is, I mean, it's not great. You wouldn't want to hear that necessarily. No. But it's kind of funny. A little bit funny. But there's, there's funnier. The, uh, I think it's the Uterraptor. This one, this one, uh, I'll, uh, yeah, like Utah.

spelled U-T-A-H-Raptor Utah So these are much bigger? Maybe this is what I was getting mixed up with a Dynarchus They're like They're more have the size where they could probably look you in the eye type size. Dude, something about them having feathers

makes them way freaky. Much scarier. Really freaky and unnerving. So again, that one, this ain't even scratching the surface of fear, bro. This ain't nothing, because this is the humorous one, right? It's called Driptosaurus, right? I might be saying that wrong, but listen. Jesus Christ, that's freaking that's freaking me out.

That one I thought was kind of funnier when I like was listening to this this morning. Yeah, listening to that now. Imagining like in the dead of night. Yeah, that's because it's nighttime now. Yeah, yeah. I was imagining like being in a forest and hearing that. And so like each one of these is getting bigger. So this is like the next side.

up. See, there's a certain level of scary that I think, like, if I was in the movie Alien, like, if that instance was happening to me, that would be like, find a gun, kill myself. Because this is too scary. Like, if I heard that in a dark forest by myself

and I had a gun, I think it would be like, I'm putting that shit in my mouth. Because that's fucking terrifying. That is a, like, what is the point? Like... Yeah. This thing is a monster. Like a sci-fi monster. Yeah, that will just like, oh, you're a little snack yummy yummy yeah I'm gonna be eviscerated so I prefer to just like obliterate myself

things so when I was going through these it wasn't until this one where I was like oh and this one is T-Rex okay okay so everyone has like a rough idea of how big those guys were right okay listen listen this I'm warning you man this is scary I might have to put in parentheses scary because this is like the scariest thing I've ever heard That's the Freddy Fazbear love. Wait for it though, it's got layers. There's more, bro. Wait for it, bro. Wait for it. There's more, bro. Wait for it.

They are enormous. That's an alien. But I can kind of see the logic of like, no, there's... They would be able to reduce, like, listen to the noises elephants make. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Animals are that, like, whales and stuff like that, like... Well, and, like, lizard-bird things do have that kind of...

vibrato yeah yeah because they are just like a big I don't know this big rib cage and like yeah there's all that gooey yeah when it turns into like it sounds like a nuke siren or something yeah imagine like standing on a hill like oh oh horrible because you don't really think about the soundscape of what like yeah these old periods of what like because they would they'd be noisy man can you imagine just being like it some a little rodent little average sized animal. That's what humans were doing.

Like a monkey. Yeah, they were little like rodent things. Apes running around or whatever. Right, so that's... Were there apes back then? I'm pretty sure what we were, what we evolved from, were like little rodenty type creatures,

small things. Triceratops. I don't remember this one being scary, but... They're like the most common dinosaur of all the time. That was just kind of cool. Yeah. If you put it in the context again, like in the dark, and you don't know what is making that sound.

There's something inherently less scary about it being a herb of all, though. It doesn't want to eat you. that it doesn't, it's not looking to eat you. Yeah. If it's going to fuck you up, it's going to be in like defense. Yeah. Four more. Elasmosaurus.

This is water stuff now. Oh, the Clicking. It's the clickin that really gets me. No. Oh no, it's creeping me out too much. I find whale calls, like, scary. The way water, like, distorts sound is so eerie. Like, we are not designed to hear that. So that's the Elasmosaurus.

Just showing Jim, like, this image with the scales, the bottom one there, with the long neck. I don't know if they... What does that eat? I think they'd eat fish and like things of a certain size but they had sharp-ass teeth. Mosasaurus though.

That's another underwater. These are even scarier, right? Get this. Just Leviathan bullshit. So they kind of So they kind of look like crocodiles Oh, that is horrible Mega crock type things

But like with flippers But bro, it ain't even there yet They're scarier This next one is what I consider the scariest one. The quetzal-quathlis, if I said that right. So these are flying guys, terrosaurs. Oh shit, okay. I hadn't considered this, but this is like imagining these guys flying around, making this noise.

It's not right. Dude, and there would be hundreds of them. That's just like... Is they, like, flock? Yeah. There would be countless of them in the skies. It's screeching. Oh, my God.

Because, like, an eagle, like, cool. That's, like, kind of cool. I can't do it I used to be able to do a good impression of an eagle core yeah

yeah um oh man nah that brings me just the imagery that like it conjures

and like the the primal fear it brings out of me yeah I understand um like being into dinosaurs on that

basis really yeah because there's there's nothing like like creepy stories where you can't help but keep finding out more and you just get more and more scared yeah

because that's part of what has drawn me to them and kept me drawn to them is imagining how frightening they would be yeah like go into the Eden project seeing people like in those weird like animal it's not even animatronics like puppetry

like a puppet dinosaur it's like a suit and like the fight or flight response when I saw it like moving around I can't I genuinely can't think of anything scarier than coming face to face with one of these things yeah and the fact they were like roaming the earth and they were like they were on top apex species yeah so there's one more Spinosaurus I don't remember this one being as scary nothing can beat that Teresol bullshit

That's pretty freaky It's pretty freaky Why is it I don't know, man See that They were ones I always thought would chill, you know? Yeah, well, there's been a lot of, in the last couple years, actually, a lot of Spinosaurus discoveries made.

They've, like, completely rearranged how they thought it looked. It's way more aquatic than the originally thought, yeah. It actually looks a lot cooler now, like, the way they think it looked compared to, like, and Drescent Part 3 or like. Plumpy. Much less plumpy. It looks more like something that you would see. in the ocean or in water

oh really yeah I guess I guess like evolutionarily they would have been much closer to stuff that had been living in the ocean yeah um

yeah so they kind of would have more of that sort of shape oh yeah kind of scarier yeah that's that's much more terrifying yeah because yeah they were like

aquatic and then at that spine I guess would come out of the water like a shark fin so they swam they didn't I'm pretty sure they were I could be mixing it because like this is I've got like all this old

knowledge of like reading stuff as a kid that's still in there because I was so obsessed with them I remember like I had like a notebook and would like just copy word for word like the bios and stuff so like it's in there somewhere yeah yeah

but I don't know how to deal with this this video if there's even if it's like 10% accurate that's like that's too much for me yeah that creates a soundscape so so terrifying so

like that it's scary when you hear like the soundscape of the jungle at night and it's like

monkeys calling or whatever that's got its own kind of it's just it just rings something in here where you're like

I'm not supposed to be in this I'm not built for this yeah I'm not supposed to be here like

yeah when you hear a sound and you don't know what is making that sound even if it's not that scary of a sound it's made scary

yeah yeah because I man I had this vivid memory of like going out for a dog walk by this river um and I timed it so it got dark and I hear something splashing in the river

and it's like not it's not argue but he's next to me but I hear something splashing I can't see it It's like It's like Logically I know there's

What there's no animal to be scared of In the UK It was probably Yeah The lack of knowledge It could have been like a deer Probably was But it's like

Because you don't know And it's in the dark You're like oh Yeah you need to have your hackles up You gotta be ready So I wasn't really anticipating This being a scary one But it's definitely gone that way

yeah this will be one we're in the playlist where when it comes on and someone's like been asleep and they're

no no no no aim right but also kind of sick yeah

there is something really awesome about it it's it's kind of like that fantasy of being in like a post-apocalypse

but it's like a pre-apocalypse you know just imagine existing in like a forest in the prehistoric ages for one night yeah that like if imagine like a game or a bit of software or something like a VR thing where you'll just put it's it'll be too scary yeah yeah if it's like a POV perspective you're like in a dense jungle somewhere it's night or the sun's just setting and it's going down there's light going down and you're hearing these sounds yeah or you're like swimming under water that's that shit's scary anyway uh-huh you know in modern times let alone what fucking monstrosities were down there before i do yeah that when there's like

you remember that shot in finding Nemo where they're kind of like in the open ocean and it's just like kind of faded blue as the background and a whale appears just kind of in the center of the screen imagine yeah you're like you've fallen into water it's like all gray and then you hear the clicking and then one of these guys is heading towards it's like no it's like sickening like it like gives you like a pit in your stomach Yeah. Makes you want to, like, vomit. So I'm glad I could frighten everyone listening. Because, man. I think the only time, like, freakier to me than the dinosaur era was the pre-dinosaur era. The, when, like, trees were first coming up.

Because, you know, I was in, it must have been like two years ago now, I went into Bristol Aquarium. And they had some sharks there, some like little sharks. And there was a little info thing that was like, sharks are like some of the oldest things ever on the planet. They pre-exist trees. Sharks pre-exist trees. Really? Like Crocs as well, I guess. I think Crocs came after

Because fish and shit They were like the OGs Isn't this true of like crabs as well Like crabs are like an evolution perfected type creature They're like they just haven't really needed to change that much Yeah because they they just like exist In the ocean That's where all life started

So like anything that lives in the ocean predates even like plants That's what's awesome about whales But they came out and they were like You know what? Nah, I'm going back in Yeah What like a legend move? Just one freak

Mutap and it was like, nah, fuck this Yeah, fuck this. This shit too scary. I'm gonna make my own path I'm following you guys Metau whale Whale's getting their own way But yeah

Yeah, it's Something about like just a desolate landscape of like all these trees would have looked the same as well like that there wouldn't have been like a varied what what portion we're talking about

because like wasn't there like mega fauna and whatnot if you go back far enough I'm talking the early tree era like the original OG tree yeah

When trees, like, first started, when they started doing their thing. Right. There were like two trees, you know? They were like two variations of trees. And they didn't have seeds. They like spread through spores or something. It's hard to... It's just, it's something creepy about that, like...

Because it's so... So distant, but it's also like the same... It's the same space. both existed in the same space and like we're powering our fuel with them. Yeah. But the creepy part, I guess to me is like how barren it would be. Without the variety of plants and stuff, like what would a landscape look like? Oh, you were like talking like real old, um.

Yeah, like before, before animals came onto land. Yeah. Just something is really creepy in my mind about that, that earth. You know, the, the, the barrenness, the, it would have been empty. So, yeah, the petri dish that's, where it's not really growing that much yet. It's mostly just jelly, you know? Agar. Agar, yeah.

Agar Planet. Well, I'm glad I could freak you out. Um Yeah, that was spooky Yeah I mean if there are any other good ones Or if any of them are inaccurate or whatever Any of you

Dino Jowlings out there But yeah I want it to be real Yeah the The same twisted part of me wants it Even the like Because just the imagination aspect of it

I'd never I guess I'd never considered the soundscape really Mm But of course they would make These hulking Horrifying noises Of course they would They wouldn't be silent

Mm-hmm Like they're enormous What What creature of that size is like Yeah And if they evolved into birds Birds birds just be saying shit You know

They take every opportunity To like make noise Yeah Yeah they're actually extremely communicative Yeah So if they were doing the same thing The other day

I picked Billy up And we're watching birds out the window And this like pigeon came and landed on a roof nearby And I was going like and this guy he was like looking at me he was like

moving his head like what are you doing dude fuck you I see it in the chickens uh huh they they walk up to you and they're like brr yeah yeah

no that's what really it was getting up close with those chickens that really made me understand like No, they would have... This is a level of horror, a level of, like, sociopathy. Like, they would just act the exact same, but giant.

Yeah. Yeah. And chickens are brutal for those that don't know. They are brutal animals. They eat mice, the rats, they eat each other, they're cannibals. They're young. If they see any weakness, they just go for it. Yeah, they don't care.

if you got a cut like on your leg they'll like try and eat it they are like brutal they they'll chase you and these are little chickens yeah yeah they go for argue he's he's terrified of them yeah they do he's supposed to like hurt them it's like what he was bred for is like breeding geese and cows and stuff and like he's terrified of them they pack him on the butt

I'm trying to eat him Yeah, they don't mess around But just putting Yeah, you set it right with like sociopathy Like a dog Even a cat to a degree Like they kind of acknowledge that you're alive You know, I don't think

Chickens don't see that It is like There's no lizard brain just like you're just on default you know not that everything isn't on default but like it's it's the default of defaults

yeah pure confidence yeah you just do yeah those chickens just do that's what I'm saying well you can do these messages I'm scared

and shit myself Yeah. Tick the head shirts available now. Yeah. Ayoyoyoyoy. Oyooy, welcome to the second half of the JAR Media Procast. We head over to the suggestion thread over on the Jail Media subreddit. We can answer questions from the community like.

Hmm. This one, from Denton to Cramer. would love to see you go through some trolley problems you heard of the trolley problem trolley yeah it's kind of a philosophical I think I know what you're getting at where yeah there's a trolley you know like in Red Dead

the trolleys in a Sandini it's going on a train track normally the question is asked of you at the lever you can change the direction the track can go on right um i i did this um it's the absurd trolley problem like website neal dot fun it's called okay where it has a list of them i did this earlier and you get like a kill count at the end for like what you would choose based on like your morality so i wanted to have you be the subject for this right okay so i'll just describe them, I'll show you the image. It'll make sense when I read it for those listening.

Right, so listen. Oh no. A trolley is headed towards five people. You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track killing one person instead. What do you do? I do divert it. So you pull the lever and kill one. So that puts you with 73% of people 27% disagree out of 9,300,000 votes. So, in the majority there, brother. Oh no, a trolley is headed towards five people. You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track,

killing four people instead. What do you do? I'll pull the lever. You'll pull the lever and get the four instead of the five. Again, low percentage. 67% of people agree with you, 33%. percent disagree nearly on nine million boats there oh no a trolley is headed towards five people you can pull the lever to divert it to the other track but

then your life savings will be destroyed what we do five people or life savings yeah I'll pull the lever pull the lever now this is where the stats get interesting 59% of people agree quiet um That's what I'm 41% disagree. That's on 8.6 million votes. Pretty big sample size Level four. Oh no, a trolley is headed towards five people. You can pull the level to divert it to the other track sacrificing yourself instead. What do you do? What do I do theoretically or what do I do actually? What do you do?

I think for my to be for the sake of consistency I'll pull the lever and end yourself yeah really that definitely puts you in the minority 39% of people agree with you 61% disagree

I actually put the other one because I feel like being put in that instance I feel like your own self-preservation Yeah, that's what I mean But like If I'm

If this is theoretical What you're saying What should I do? Yeah, what should I do? That's what I should do That's what I think Like would be the high honor thing to do Level 5

Oh no A trolley is headed towards five people You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track But then the original copy of the Mona Lisa Will be destroyed. What do you do? destroy the Mona Lisa so pull the lever that puts you with 75% of people

25% disagree yeah I'd much rather live with like being the guy who destroyed the Mona Lisa yeah that's a double whammy five deaths on my hand isn't that fucked though that people are more willing to destroy the Mona Lisa than their savings that is weird yeah

That's really fucked to me That is bad I was I was probably the one I was most shocked by it Yeah that's that's fucking disgusting Level six Oh no A trolley is headed towards a rich man The rich man offers you

$500,000 to pull the lever Which would divert the trolley and kill someone else What do you do? Killers us Kill the rich guy So do nothing Yeah Now this is it

interesting though 46% of people agree with you 54% disagree logically so what the logic is someone is dying

I might as well get half a million out of it but something about that makes it gross like why why should the other guy die just because he's not

I feel like yeah it's not fair I feel like him begging for that creates the situation where you have to leave it. Yeah.

Him doing that sways it in such a way where it's like well I'm sorry but like the half a million you're going to be think about that for the rest of your life

and you're never going to forgive yourself for doing that. Yeah. Oh no. A trolley is headed towards five lobsters. You can pull the lever

to divert it to the other track running over a cat instead. What do you do? Five lobsters or one cat. Kill the lobsters. Hmm? Eat the lobsters.

So do nothing. Do nothing. Eat the lobsters. 84% of people agree with you. 16% disagree. Um... On this one, I... I meant to do nothing by accidentally killed the cat. Okay.

Oh no, a trolley is headed towards five people who are sleeping and won't feel pain. You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track, running over some. track running over someone who is wide awake instead what do you do kill the one guy pull the lover I did the same thing 50% of people agree with you 50% disagree wow that's a tough one wow okay interesting that is interesting but that's one of those impossible like yeah you you have to like take the theoretical Literally. Yeah. Because in the instance, like you can't, because they're sleeping, you can't assume that they're not going to feel pain. Yeah. Now this one I love. Oh no. A trolley is headed towards five people who tied themselves to the track.

You can pull a lever to divert it to the other track, killing one person who accidentally tripped onto the track instead. Oh. What do you do? They've all got smiles on their face, the five. shout themselves to it shit I think that's a do nothing and that's what I did 78% of people agree with you 22% disagree

I think mentioning that it's like a complete accident that the other person is there and they don't want to be there and all the other people choosing to be there make some kind of difference yeah

that's done dark. Oh no. A trolley is headed towards five people. The lever just speeds up the trolley, which might make it less painful. What do you do? Why is there even a guy on the track? He's just chilling. Um, yeah, I mean, what's to lose if you pull it? Pull the lever. They're fucked either way. 72% of people agree with you. 28% disagree. Oh no, a trolley is headed towards one guy.

You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track, but then your Amazon package will be late. What do you do? Pull the lever. That's funny, though? 78% of people agree with you. 78? People would just be...

Just be being funny either. Oh no, a trollie is headed towards your best friend. friend you can pull the lever to divert it to the other track killing five strangers instead what do you do see this this is where it gets much more tricky yeah to me mm-hmm I think being totally honest I will pull the level most people are with you I did the same 73% of people agree with you 27% disagree. Even though I think it's kind of wrong.

That's just one of those hard, hard truth, I feel like. Yeah. Like, that's rough. Yeah. I feel like there's a Saw movie that does basically like a version of this type of thing. There's like a carousel of people. And this guy has got to like prioritize which ones can survive.

Mm-hmm. I think I've seen that exact one. So like some of the women are like, I'm pregnant, I'm pregnant. And I was like, ooh, this is like... Is that where he's going to, like, crush his hand as well to save a certain person? Something like that, yeah. Um...

Where it breaks his finger or something. Oh no. A trolley is headed towards five people. You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track, killing one person instead. At least, that's what you think is happening. You forgot your glasses and can't see that well. What do you do? Oh.

Okay. this is just gambling yeah I think the fuck I can't remember what the results are for this one I think do nothing do nothing

yeah of people, percent of people agree with you, 54% disagree. You can't really not really a win-win there. Yeah, that one's kind of random. It's only a couple more here. This one's interesting. Oh no, a trolley is headed towards

one of your first cousins. You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track, killing three of your second cousins instead. What do you do? That is that's fucked. That is really bad. I guess do nothing Do nothing

Yeah Family's family 55% of people agree with you 45% disagree Yeah That one's brutal It comes down to like a total numbers game Where it's like

The family's like destroyed either way It's like how many members of the family You're going to completely ruin um and it's one v3 it's really dark this one oh I love this one

oh no a trolley is headed towards five elderly people you can pull the lever to divert it to the other track running over one baby instead what do you do take out the elderly so do nothing

Uh huh 76% of people agree with you 24% disagree Yeah I did the same Oh no A trolley is barreling towards Five identical clones of you You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track

Sacrificing yourself instead What do you do Ooh You or your five clones I think it depends on the the clones you know they're clones yeah but like what type of clone

identical clone but have they like lived my life up until that point uh I feel like the fact that they're a clone kind of implies they don't have that kill them so do nothing yeah I feel like that's the correct answer

Unless you, because I love it as In Invincible The clone characters, they kind of address This very problem Like their whole character dynamic is this problem That's kind of what I mean there Like if they've lived my experience Then

I'd be more inclined to let them live If it was five clones And you and none of you knew which one the clone was I feel like that kind of makes it more complicated Yeah But it's specified that you know that there's a clone Yeah But it also depends if like

They've been cloned and they're like a day old And they've got none of your memories Because then they're not me They just look like me Right Oh no A trolley is headed towards a mystery box With a 50% chance of containing two people

you can pull the lever to divert it to the other track hitting a mystery box with a 10% chance of 10 people what do you do so that's 50% chance of containing two people or 10% chance of 10 what's the alternative it's two or empty 50% chance of there being two people

or 10% chance of 10 those are the two options but is it like a 50% chance that there's two people or non people. 50% chance that there's two people or a 10% chance of 10. So it's an odds game.

It's gambling. So you're going to go for the 50-50 or the 10%? I think the 50. I think do nothing. They do nothing. That puts you with 42% of people. I did the opposite just because the odds are lower. if there being anyone in there

but I was thinking of it as like a what's that game which one the poker no um

fucking blanking hard you like control a squad fighting aliens excom excom you know sometimes it's like 97% oh yeah and you're still

miss and that's odds though for you well yeah so like that's what it's asking you though yeah yeah that i've i've experienced tiny odds coming true and winning too many times to risk that so so every two roles there's a chance that there'll be someone in there compared to every 10 one in 10 so i take the one in 10 but if if that 10 that one in 10 that one in 10 that one in 10 10 comes true, you've killed more, way more. Oh shit. Whoa. Sorry.

Sorry, Billy. Oh no. A trolley is headed towards five sentient robots. You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track, killing one human. Instead, what do you do? Divert. So you kill the one? Pull the lever.

Yeah. Now, this is interesting, because we made the same decision here, but only 15. percent of people agree 85 percent disagree but I feel like the wording is what's important because they say sentient they say yeah they don't say like five sentient robots in theory they're people is it yeah if they have full sentience which is is the problem is the question yeah oh no a trolley is headed towards three empty trolleys worth nine hundred thousand You can divert the lever to divert it to the other track hitting one empty trolley worth

$300,000 instead. What do you do? Divert it, I guess. So you're pulling the lever. 78% of people agree with you, 22% disagree. Kind of like that. That people lean that way. To save cash. Which is more like being anti- just pointless wasted resource. Yeah.

Yeah. That's how I interpret it. Who is winning from just that pointless destruction? Mm-hmm. You know? There's no death involved. Well, maybe there'd be less people getting run over by trolleys.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh no. A trolley is releasing 100 KG of CO2 per year, which will kill five people over 30 years. You can pull the lever to divert it to the other track, hitting a brick wall and decommissioning the trolley, what do you do?

Yeah, that kind of answers the previous one. I'll say this is like kind of turning us into extremists. Yeah, but I'll go extremists, brick wall. Pull the lever. 61% of people agree with you, 309% disagree. I did the opposite with that one. Really? Yeah.

Five people over 30 years. I guess, yeah. Hello, man. Justify it. Um... We're all listening. I don't really know how to, to be honest. It's, yeah, I guess, I guess the justification would have to come from, um,

what the trolley does for people. you know if it allows people to keep a job and like maintain a family then core infrastructure yeah like a lot of people more than five I guess but even then yeah that's a really interesting one yeah oh no you're a reincarnated being who will eventually be reincarnated as every person in this classic trolley problem what do you do So you are all of them. Pull the lever.

Pull the lever. 51% of people agree with you. Why? Why? I guess people see it as a pointless choice. If you are all of them. Yeah, but if you have to, if you have to experience being on the trolley, being on the trolley track Yeah, why would you want to experience it five times?

Yeah, you only have to experience it once If you pull the lover Yeah Oh no, a trolley is headed towards nothing But you kind of want to prank the trolley driver What do you do? There's nothing on the line It's just if you want to be a dick or not

I won't But guess what I did Motherfucker 35% of people agree with you 65% disagree Wow When there's nothing on the line It looks like people that

They like it Cause it's like Yeah but Causing a little bit of faff But in reality they wouldn't Probably not Oh no Oh this one rocks

A trolley is headed towards a good citizen You can pull the lever to divert it To the other track Running over someone who litters instead what do you do? That was dark When I answered this one I got to admit I missed the littering bit

So I just Did you assume worse? I just saw good citizen, bad citizen On the image and just Even that is tricky to me Mm-hmm Well, at least with, like, when I didn't have the litter thing, because that's so, like, trivial, which is the point? Yeah.

At least you could, like, imagine, oh, they're bad. But even the trivialness almost makes it harder. Yeah, definitely does. That's the whole point, right? Yeah. I don't think I would pull the lever. We'd leave it. Yeah.

19% of people agree with you. Wow. That's interesting. Oh no, due to a construction error, a trolley is stuck in an eternal loop. If you pull the lever, the trolley will explode. And if you don't, the trolley and its passengers will go in circles for eternity. What do you do? Pull the lever.

60% of people agree with you, 40% disagree. I did the same. I think this might be the last one. Oh no, a trolley is headed towards your worst enemy. You can pull the lever to divert the trolley and save them. Or you can do nothing and no one will ever know. What do you do? Pull the lever.

Pull the lever. 49% of people agree with me. 51% disagree. I did the same. Yeah. You got to think about the... Even when other people don't know, you'll know. Yeah, you've got to live with it after that, you know.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Depends what kind of enemies you got, I guess. Oh no, a trolley is headed towards a person and will lower their lifespan by 50 years. You can pull the lever and divert the trolley and lower the lifespan of 5 people by 10 years each instead. What do you do? One person instantly gets aged 50 years or 5 people get aged 10 years? I'm curious

This one didn't take much thought for me Pull the lever Yeah I did the same It's just fairer It's just objectively fairer Yeah 63% of people agree with you

Uh huh Yeah I was just Like The trolley set up of that one Was kind of like Yeah yeah Oh no

A trolley is headed towards five people You can pull the lever to divert it To the other track, sending the trolley into the future to kill five people 100 years from now. What do you do? I'm interested in your logic on this one. I'll tell you what I did. I'll leave it. Do nothing?

Uh-huh. That was my logic, too. I figured... happen anyway just get it done do it now yeah um because they like at least those people on the track is dark it's real dark they know it's coming whatever like you're sending into the future like those those five people that are getting taken out there's something even more like messed up yeah about that where it's like oh not my problem someone else can do they don't even have the context yeah i guess that's what bugs me about it yeah someone else's issue god there's

oh no a trolley problem is playing out before you do you actually have a choice in this situation or has everything been predetermined since the universe began back at this old chestnut what are the options I have a choice or I don't have a choice I don't have a choice 36% of people agree with you

64% disagree that's quite a high percentage more than you thought yeah for sure just over a third of a of a group of less four million two hundred thousand votes are quite a big sample size really interesting so yeah congratulations you have solved philosophy your kill count was 64 let me look at mine i screenshot it earlier with my phone has fallen i love that i think that's a really interesting thought exos. Yeah. I'm surprised

it didn't do the classic one. Which? The... So it starts with the basic one. The classic one I thought the one I'd heard before was the old, five-old one baby. That's the one I'd heard before.

No, the the, like, most um, poignant two would be just the five, five people. one person yeah everyone chooses the one person and then it's okay there's there's five people there's no switch but you have to push someone in front of the trolley right and it will stop the trolley saving the five people would you push the person right trying to make you more of a direct

killer yeah because the the argument with it is that by not pulling the lever you're not doing an actions, so you're not hurting anyone. But if you pull the lever, you're killing that one person. Which I didn't, yeah. I don't have a feel about that. So, but would you push the person? If you knew 100% that it would stop the trolley, are they objectively evil?

Yeah. Are they in an NFT, bro? Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. The idea of, like, what you would do in it, what you'd like to think you'd do in an impossible situation and what yeah, actually do it's, it's more of like a, it doesn't even have to be what you would do, it's, it's more like what your idealized person would do.

It's like testing your morality, really. Yeah. So would you push the guy to save five? You don't know any of them. Man. Because you'd pull. the lever to kill the one go, as would I. I feel like you'd have to, right?

1v5. That's quite a lot of... There's not a right answer. No, there's no way you're getting away like, Scott Free with that one. Yeah. So your, this is funny, your kill count was 64. My kill count was 63.

Oh, wow. So you're on more of a killer. Wow, okay. Maybe I'm the real murderer of Jha. You know what, bro, I enjoyed that. I thought that was a goodie. Yeah, they are fun. Good website, good suggestion there.

Hondo. Keep it 100. Keep it 100 and keep your trolley problems nice and... disturbing and simple because some of those got kind of confusing too deep for me I'm kind of last

well bro any final words before we retire um I just want to hear what people would do would they push the guy yeah would you push the guy would you push the guy what's your kill count

yeah no do you the trolley problem and would you push the guy. Also, would it count you as killing five people, like in this counting thing, would it count you as killing them if you didn't pull the lever on the first one? That's a good question, I'm not sure. I've got to do some research on that guy. Right. Right. Right. See you next time. Ciao.

Yeah.